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Every week another fascinating 64 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.759 author talking about the most shocking and tims killers in 65 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:05.319 true crime history. True Murder with your host journalist and 66 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.240 author Dan Zufanski. 67 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.840 Good Evening, a memoir of hope, healing and survival, sure 68 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.360 to resonate with the fans of J. C. Dugard's has 69 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:29.560 Stolen Life and Elizabeth Smarts My Story. On August twenty eighth, 70 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.039 nineteen ninety seven, just as she was starting her junior 71 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.120 year at the University of Kentucky, Holly Dunn and her 72 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:40.240 boyfriend Chris Meyer, were walking along railroad tracks on their 73 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.599 way home from a party when they were attacked by 74 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:48.879 a notorious serial killer, Angel Matcherino Resendez, aka the Railroad Killer. 75 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.080 After a boyfriend is beaten to death in front of her, 76 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:56.520 Holly is stabbed, raped, and left for dead. In this 77 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.719 memoir of survival and healing from a horrific true crime, 78 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.960 Holly recounts how she lived through the vicious assault, helped 79 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.520 bring her sale into justice, and ultimately found meaning and 80 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.759 purpose through service to victims of sexual assault and other 81 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:16.040 violent crimes. She has worked as a motivational speaker, an activist, 82 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.519 and founded Holly's House, a safe and nurturing space in 83 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.199 her hometown of Evansville, Indiana. The book of her feature 84 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.720 in this Evening is Sole Survivor, The inspiring true story 85 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.120 of coming face to face with the infamous Railroad Killer. 86 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.519 With my special guest, author, speaker and founder of Holly's House, 87 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.920 Holly Dunn, Welcome to the program and thank you very 88 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.920 much for agreeing to this interview, Holly done. 89 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:44.800 Thank you so much for having me. 90 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.839 Thank you very much. Incredible story, and thank you very 91 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:54.279 much for agreeing to this interview. This is very very personal, 92 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.240 I know. And the only thing is I know that 93 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.759 you've probably told this more than most victims of every 94 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:06.040 to older story. Tell me probably difference. Let's get right 95 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:11.000 into this. Tell us a little bit about your growing up. 96 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.839 You talk about your father being a successful businessman and 97 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.480 you admired him. Tell us a little bit about your 98 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.079 early life before we talk about how you happened to 99 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:20.959 meet Chris Mayor. 100 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:27.600 Sure, my early life was amazing. I had a wonderful childhood. 101 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.680 I had two great, loving parents. I had a sister 102 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.759 that I grew up with, and you know, we we 103 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.240 lived a great life. We went to school, we went 104 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.199 on vacations, we you know, I mean I had a 105 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.000 perfect childhood. If you could have had a perfect childhood, 106 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:46.720 I think I had it. 107 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.399 Right. And you say, your dad was he owned a 108 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.240 bunch of hotels, and so you were he was. You 109 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.920 were trying to follow in his footsteps, and you were 110 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:04.680 trying to do studies in an accounting tell us a 111 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.439 little bit about your school work and where you and 112 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.879 a little bit about your father's business and your aspirations 113 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:12.560 as well. 114 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.399 Sure. Sure, So I had always planned to go into 115 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.040 business with my father, well you know, later in life. 116 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.439 That's kind of that kind of was my plan. I 117 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.040 studied accounting then finance at the University of Kentucky, and 118 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:26.959 you know that that was my plan. I was going 119 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.879 to go into business with him, maybe someday take over 120 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.120 the business. That was kind of my thought. I I 121 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.279 had no you know, I never thought I would get married. 122 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.199 I never thought I would have kids. I kind of 123 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.079 that was my plan. I just always had career goals, 124 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:42.839 and so I was just going to you know, get 125 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:44.920 my degree and then go and work for my father. 126 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.120 So and his businesses were we franchise hotels. So it's 127 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.560 called Dunn Hospitality Group, and we actually you know, own, 128 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:58.319 own and manage and build hotels kind of in in 129 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.959 Indiana and Kentucky and in a in a probably a 130 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.639 five hundred mile radius from Evansville. But you know, it's 131 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:06.759 and so it's been a successful business. And I think 132 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:08.639 what I always saw in my father that I wanted 133 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.839 to emulate was that he was able to be in 134 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.879 our lives. Like he came to all my basketball games, 135 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.240 he came to, you know, when I had things at school, 136 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.120 he came to dinner every night. You know, I liked 137 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.160 that he was so much a part of our family. 138 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.800 But he was a successful businessman. So I think that's 139 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:26.680 really what I wanted to emulate, is I wanted to be, 140 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.160 you know, if I did end up having a family, 141 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.759 I wanted to have a great career, but then also 142 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.240 be able to have, you know, time with my family. 143 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.480 You also grew up in a not a strict Catholic family, 144 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.720 but a serious Catholic family. Tell us a little bit 145 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.959 about the faith that you grew up in. 146 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:48.600 Sure, Well, my mom was Catholic, and so we grew 147 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.079 I grew up Catholic. I went to Catholic school. My 148 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:56.199 dad was actually General Baptist, though, and so my dad 149 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:00.240 would go to his church, and my mom and dad 150 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.879 both go to each other's churches. So my dad would 151 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.759 go to church with my mom and with us, and 152 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.920 then they would we would also go to my dad's church. 153 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.879 So we were going to sometimes a lot of times, 154 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:16.560 to church ceremonies every weekend. And you know that it 155 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:21.079 made me probably very well rounded in my Christianity. I 156 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:23.560 think I learned a lot about the Baptist faith as 157 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:26.839 well as a lot about the Catholic faith. But I 158 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.879 was baptized Catholic and raised Catholic. 159 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:34.399 Now let's get to where you are in ninety seven. 160 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.559 You talk about that you would rented an apartment with 161 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.320 a couple of your friends off campus, a second floor 162 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.200 of a house, and you were going to university, the 163 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:48.960 University of Kentucky at Lexington. So this is June ninety seven. 164 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.720 So tell us the circumstances where you were in your 165 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:54.399 life at that time. We just talked about how things 166 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.200 were great up to this point anyway, and in continue 167 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.960 with that. In June ninety seven in at Kentucky and 168 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.639 you meet a University of Kentucky, you meet Chris Mayor. 169 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:05.840 Tell us a little bit about Chris and how you 170 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.039 came to meet him that fafeful day. 171 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:12.639 Sure, So I was going to summer school at the 172 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.080 University of Kentucky. I was trying to catch up on 173 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.559 some classes that summer and I was taking summer school. 174 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.000 So I was living in an apartment off campus and 175 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:25.519 going to summer school, and I met Chris one night. 176 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.120 You know, in the middle of summer school. I mean, 177 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.000 my roommate was actually turning twenty one, and so we 178 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:33.799 wanted to go out and get her a drink for 179 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.480 her birthday. But I was not yet twenty one. So 180 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:38.399 we just went to a restaurant where she would be 181 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.279 able to get, you know, a drink at a restaurant, 182 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:45.879 but we went to I guess a we went to 183 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.360 a restaurant that wouldn't serve us because I wasn't twenty 184 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:53.440 one yet, and so we were kind of deflated. We 185 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.399 were like, well, we're gonna go home and she's not 186 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.279 going to get her birthday drink. You know. We went 187 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:02.600 at midnight actually on her birthday, and we ended up 188 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.960 stopping by a bar close to where we were living, 189 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.960 and it was it was it was crazy because it 190 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.159 was a laundry mat, but there was a bar next 191 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.879 to it. And that's actually where I met Chris that night. 192 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:17.759 It was the you know, after midnight on my friend's birthday, 193 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:19.879 and we were just trying to buy her a drink 194 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.360 and Chris and all of his friends were sitting at 195 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.799 that bar, and I guess very familiar with it. I 196 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.279 had never been in it before, but that's where we met, 197 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.960 and you know, we started talking straight away, and I 198 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:36.399 think it was kind of we were spitting with each other, 199 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:38.919 I think that night, and so that kind of that 200 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:39.960 just started it all. 201 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.480 Do you as you describe them, because it's well it's 202 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:48.840 important anyway, but can you describe them because for people 203 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:50.600 to get a visual of what he was like and 204 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.399 also what he looked like, but also what he was 205 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.120 like you mentioned the band fish and and sort of 206 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.320 his leaves a bike enthusiast. So what did you first 207 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:03.200 deduce from talking to him and learned about him and 208 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.759 attracted you to him, and also describe kind of what 209 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.000 he looks like for our audience. 210 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.960 Sure, so Christmas six five, So he was quite tall, 211 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.639 and he was just he was an outdoors kind of guy. 212 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.480 So he enjoyed you know, you could tell in the 213 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.440 way that he dressed, just in in his demeanor that 214 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.679 he loved the outdoors. That he was you know, just 215 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:32.159 not not very not. He didn't didn't have a lot 216 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.799 of material things that he cared about. And he but 217 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:39.320 he was the kindest soul, such an amazing guy. Uh 218 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.200 just gave great big bear hugs. He was friendly to 219 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:46.399 everyone he met and you know, just the kindest soul. 220 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.559 And you know that he never met a stranger like 221 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.960 he was friendly to everyone and that so he was 222 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.519 super a super attractive guy, but also just super friendly 223 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:02.200 and and and everyone wanted to be his friend because 224 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:06.240 he was just a kind, nice, good guy and you 225 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.200 know that that's I'm sure that's what drew me to him. 226 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.799 And you know it, I hadn't met a guy like 227 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.679 him before, So I think that, you know, that's that's 228 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:17.279 what drew me to him in the first place. 229 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:24.600 Now you're both in classes, and so your relationships develops, 230 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:29.279 and so tell us how long it is before you 231 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:33.399 get into this this situation one evening, and before we 232 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.240 talk about that, tell us about the process of your 233 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.440 relationship and where you were at before on this day 234 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:41.679 that everything changes. 235 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.679 Well, we were at a point in our relationship where 236 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:51.159 we'd been dating for about three months. It wasn't we 237 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.480 we hadn't been very serious in that three months. We 238 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.600 had kind of become more friends, and we had just 239 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.720 gotten to a point, I think in that three months 240 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.399 where we were ready to take it a little further. 241 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.559 We were ready to kind of be more than just friends. 242 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.159 And so you know that that happened maybe a week 243 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:12.159 before the fateful night that that that happened to us, 244 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.159 but so that we were, you know, actually wanting to 245 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.480 take it further and wanting to get closer and wanting 246 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:21.120 to develop the relationship. So you know, if we'd I don't, 247 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.120 we'd on't eve been. We'd only really known each other 248 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:28.240 for three months and and it wasn't that wasn't long enough. 249 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.480 Like That's if I had one wish, I wish that 250 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.399 I could have spent more time with him, because I 251 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.039 just didn't. I didn't get to, you know, do we 252 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.360 didn't even get to do anything that we had planned 253 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.799 to do. You know, we had planned to go on 254 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.480 a picnic the next day and to go hiking and 255 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.519 go on a picnic, and you know, we never got 256 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.039 to do that. So I've tried to I don't know. 257 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.120 That's and I think that's what I've done in my life, 258 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:51.919 is that I've and that's what I did. That was 259 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.799 a big part of my healing was and how I 260 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.559 had agrieved Chris Chris was to actually, you know, go 261 00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:59.559 and do things that he loved and do things that 262 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.679 he did, And I think that was actually part of 263 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.320 my healing process. I think, you know, it wasn't a 264 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.039 conventional way of healing that for me, it was to 265 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.559 go and do things that he loved and to live 266 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.600 out things that he loved in his life so that 267 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:13.960 I could know him better because I didn't get long 268 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:14.759 enough with him. 269 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.639 You talk about after his trip to Maine, because they'll 270 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.639 be important a little bit later. But there's a party, 271 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.960 this off campus party here and forty or fifty people 272 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:30.200 and you go with your friends, Adrian and a couple 273 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.960 of friends of Chris's. So tell us about this party 274 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.679 that you guys plan on and then what happens that 275 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.960 you get Did you come to happen to go for 276 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:39.919 a walk? The four of you? 277 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.840 Sure, So we went to a party and it was 278 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:47.919 an off campus party with maybe three blocks from campus. 279 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.080 It was actually in a house that Chris had lived 280 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.200 in before the year before, so he knew that the 281 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.320 area well. And he was in a fraternity, so it 282 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.159 was actually right after fraternity recruitment had just ended, had 283 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.200 gotten all their new members, and so they were having 284 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.240 a party to celebrate that they had all their new 285 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.159 members in the fraternity. So that's what the party was for. 286 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.639 And when we got there, it was quite boring. There 287 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.919 wasn't a whole lot of people there. I didn't know 288 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.759 anyone there. And so, you know, myself and Chris and 289 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.960 two of our friends, two of his fraternity brothers, actually 290 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.279 went to take a walk and we went to take 291 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.480 a walk on down from the house. It was about 292 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.080 I don't know, maybe a block or two from the 293 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.320 house that we went to the railroad tracks. And the 294 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:34.919 railroad tracks were only probably three blocks from the house. 295 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.600 And again I said, Chris knew this area. So I 296 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.000 Chris had been to the railroad tracks before. And so 297 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.840 we actually, you know, went to the tracks and we 298 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.799 were going to go put quarters down on the track 299 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.879 and have trains run over them and flatten the quarters. 300 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.159 And that was our thought, was that we all four 301 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:55.039 went there and we went and put coins on the tracks, 302 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.559 and we waited and we waited for a train to 303 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.679 come by, and that was what we waited, kept waiting 304 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.759 and just waiting that you know, no trains came by, 305 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.679 and so it was boring. That was more boring than 306 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:08.759 the party. And I guess Chris and I were being 307 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.639 kind of lovey dovey, and so he actually our friends 308 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.559 went back to the party and Chris and I stayed 309 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:15.600 by the tracks to talk. 310 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.159 And while you're there, you don't notice anything a miss, 311 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:27.240 but there's an electrical box and you're talking and again 312 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:32.679 you're you're just having a great time. And tell us 313 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.159 what happens? What comes out of the dark. 314 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:39.279 So we get up to leave, and we're walking back 315 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.960 toward the house where the party is, and as we 316 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.879 get up to leave, a man comes out from behind 317 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.519 an electrical box right next to the tracks. And he 318 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.279 comes out and he has a weapon on Chris, which 319 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.120 I didn't even realize he had a weapon on Chris. 320 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:54.919 But it was a knife or an ice picked something 321 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.200 sharp that he had on Chris. And so he asked 322 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.840 for money, and you know, I didn't really think anything 323 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.759 of it because I also I didn't see the weapon. 324 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.319 At this point, I thought, this is just somebody asking 325 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.599 for money. Now, it was like midnight, it was dark, 326 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.960 it was night, you know, it was there were some 327 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:14.920 strange things about it, but literally it was that a 328 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.720 guy was asking us for money and we said we 329 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:21.880 didn't have any money, and he didn't believe us. So 330 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.039 he had Chris get down on his knees and started 331 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.400 going through Christm's backpack. So I thought, well, he's going 332 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.039 through Christmas backpack to find some if we have any money, 333 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.759 and and he goes through Chrism's backpack, or at least 334 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.559 that's what he said he was doing, or that's what 335 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.400 I thought he was doing, but but really what he 336 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:40.920 was doing he was tying up Christ's hands behind his 337 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.640 back with the backpack. And then he came over to me, 338 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:47.480 and that's when I realized that he had a weapon. 339 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:49.200 I mean, I wasn't far from him, but again it 340 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.359 was dark and he and that's when I realized he 341 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:54.200 had a weapon. And he held it up to me 342 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.880 and he took off my belt and tied my hands 343 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.680 behind my back with my belt, and I think that, 344 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.480 you know, that's that's what's so I guess hard about 345 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:09.079 this is that you know, here's two people and someone 346 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.039 is trying to rob you. And that's kind of what 347 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.480 I'm what I where my mind was at the time. 348 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.880 I was thinking, this person wants to rob us. We 349 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.079 have to give him what he wants so he'll let 350 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.880 us go. So I start offering him, you know, do 351 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.279 you want a car, We have a car you could have. 352 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:26.400 Do you want credit cards? Do you want me to 353 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.960 go to the ATM. I'll get you money, Like whatever 354 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.480 you need, I'll get it for you. Because you know, 355 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.680 it was that thought of you, if somebody wants your purse, 356 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.000 you throw it at them and run away. I was 357 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.960 trying to give him what he wanted so that he 358 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.599 would leave us alone and let us go, But he 359 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.720 just kept saying no to all of our offers. And 360 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.240 that's what seems so strange is that he wasn't wanting 361 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.720 what he said he wanted. So, you know, when I 362 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:51.400 was like, I can get you money, I'll get you 363 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.680 all the money you want, he didn't actually want money. 364 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.720 And I think that that's because his his you know, 365 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.279 that's what he initially had said. But his what he 366 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.640 wanted all along was to to hurt us. It wasn't 367 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.319 to you know, to rob us. And so you know, 368 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:12.160 I at that point, I I he actually tied up 369 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.759 our legs and gagged us, he you know, and I 370 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.759 just remember being so I was afraid, but I felt 371 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:23.480 an amazing piece over me this entire this entire time, 372 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.119 and I felt just a like I that everything was 373 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.680 gonna be okay. And that's that's what that was. Actually 374 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.119 Chris's last word to me was Everything's gonna be okay. 375 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.359 And he ended up hitting Chris with a fifty two 376 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.400 pound rock, and you know, it seems like a dream 377 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.000 in my mind. I I barely I don't. I mean, 378 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:45.319 I remember I thought Chris got hit more than once. 379 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.000 He only got hit once. And all I all I 380 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:51.160 remember is Chris was gurgling, and I asked him to 381 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.359 go turn Chris's head to the side because I didn't 382 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:55.440 want him to choke on his own blood. And he 383 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:57.640 actually went and did it. He wasn't that far away 384 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.519 from me, but he went over to him and he 385 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:01.559 came back over and he said he's gone. Don't worry 386 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.920 about him anymore. And so that's when he climbed on 387 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.720 top of me. I this is when I realized he 388 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:08.279 was going to rape me. I don't think I thought 389 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.279 about it until this moment. And so I was like, well, 390 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:13.200 I'm gonna fight him, like I you know, what do 391 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.279 I have to lose here? So I tried to fight. 392 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:18.839 I was screaming, I was trying to, you know, hurt him, 393 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.720 and he stabbed me in my neck and he said, 394 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.480 look how easily I could kill you, And so I 395 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:29.440 just stopped and then he raped me. I don't remember 396 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.759 being raped or I remember literally floating above my body. 397 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.519 I wasn't feeling pain. I didn't feel when he stabbed 398 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:37.359 me in my neck. I did not feel any pain. 399 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.680 And you know, I was actually talking to him, and 400 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.359 I was asking him, you know, about his family and 401 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.119