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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great America.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome with Florio's Thursday halfe me in the drive thing,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it bit hippie reads, pitchers and pastures reported on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the beginning more or less of spring Hope,

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<v Speaker 2>Springs Eternal, And having watched the Philadelphia Eagles beat up

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<v Speaker 2>so easily.

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<v Speaker 3>On the Kansas City Chiefs, that may be quite happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking the Bengals might have a long way to go,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll see what happens. The Reds are much more

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<v Speaker 3>present concern because on paper they look really good. But

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<v Speaker 3>until then, Governor Mike DeWine, welcome again to the Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Cunningham Show and Governor many issues, so little time. And

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<v Speaker 3>you had told me about a month month and a

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<v Speaker 3>half ago, against everyone else at Odott that the four

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<v Speaker 3>to seventy one Big Mac Bridge would open by the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of February. People laughed and snickered at you. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way that's going to happen, and lo and

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<v Speaker 3>beholding open Monday night, which makes my producer Tony Bender

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<v Speaker 3>so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you know at that point that most of

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<v Speaker 1>us did not know?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just was telling O, we got to get this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is very people. I'm hearing from a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people. This is a real pain for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And so yes, we put a real push. I kept

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<v Speaker 4>I kept on them, I kept on the on Pam Borton,

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<v Speaker 4>who's the head of ODA now, And I said, Pam,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to make things happen, and and you know

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<v Speaker 4>we got it open.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank god.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's a it's a lifesaver. I know you're in

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<v Speaker 3>Green County. I know you're in Columbus. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>have great roots in Cincinnati. But that bridge, dammit has

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<v Speaker 3>caused billions of dollars worth of havoc and pain for

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<v Speaker 3>so many. It destroyed businesses, destroyed lives. There's two uh criminals,

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<v Speaker 3>career criminals been indicted for it. We don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>full story yet, but that's that's a great positive. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 3>you announced a few days ago that lieutenant governor will

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<v Speaker 3>be Jim Tressel, and I knew he had a great

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<v Speaker 3>history at Ohio State, won the state title, I'm the

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<v Speaker 3>national title, and then you Youngstown State. He did a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of stuff with Youngstown on state as the president.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you pick Jim Tressel, who's never been in

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<v Speaker 3>politics over all the politicians that wanted that gig.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think I surprised you, Bill didn't I surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I didn't see that in coming.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody else did either.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, nine days before the announcement, I called

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<v Speaker 4>up Jim Trestle and I said, I want to come

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<v Speaker 4>see you and friend.

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<v Speaker 5>I went up there.

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<v Speaker 4>He lives up near Medina and went into what he

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<v Speaker 4>called He showed us his uh buck eye man cave

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<v Speaker 4>and this is the ultimate buck eye man cave with

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<v Speaker 4>with rings and footballs and everything. Anyway, so we had

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<v Speaker 4>that conversation, but then we got down to business and

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<v Speaker 4>I asked him if he would serve as.

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<v Speaker 5>My lieutenant governor. And what I told.

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<v Speaker 4>Him was, look, I'm healthy, but you know, one never knows,

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<v Speaker 4>and I need somebody who I have great confid it's

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<v Speaker 4>in their judgment, great confidence in their leadership ability that

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<v Speaker 4>if for some reason I could not serve during the

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<v Speaker 4>next two years sometime and that person became governor, I

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<v Speaker 4>want someone who I could really make sure that they

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<v Speaker 4>were really a leader, and someone who really cared about education,

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<v Speaker 4>cared about kids.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said that's number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, I said, you know you can really help

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<v Speaker 4>me over the next two years. And Bill, I've known

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<v Speaker 4>Tressel for a long time, but I really got to

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<v Speaker 4>know him after he became president at Youngstown State University.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know Cincinnati is a long long way from.

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<v Speaker 4>Youngstown, but he has done a did a phenomenal job

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<v Speaker 4>for nine years as the president. He pulled the business

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<v Speaker 4>community together. You know, a university can be a great

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<v Speaker 4>engine of economic development, and he worked to make that

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<v Speaker 4>happen in Youngstown. He's someone who is I think, very practical.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I asked him a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, Jim, we've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>universities in Ohio or public, fourteen of them, but we've

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<v Speaker 4>got you know, fifty or sixty private, and with the

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<v Speaker 4>demographics of fewer kids, you know, these schools are some

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<v Speaker 4>of them having a difficult time. I said, what would

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<v Speaker 4>you recommend? And he says, look, he says, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to cut you know, Okay, he says you have to

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<v Speaker 4>you have to pare down the cost. And he says

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<v Speaker 4>you can't have classes where there's a one professor teaching

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<v Speaker 4>five kids. He says, just it simply will not will

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<v Speaker 4>not work, and that just that's kind of gives you

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<v Speaker 4>an idea what kind of guy he is. But anyway

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<v Speaker 4>back to the story, you know, we talked to him

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<v Speaker 4>and he said, well, I might be interested in that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, so then we could be carried on

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<v Speaker 4>a conversation by phone for the you know, the next

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<v Speaker 4>few days. And then he said, look, he says, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I got talked to Ellen, I got talked to my

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<v Speaker 4>wife and uh and she basically told him. Uh, according

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<v Speaker 4>to Jim, she said, you know, I think God has

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<v Speaker 4>something in mind for you. You need to you need to listen,

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<v Speaker 4>and you need to do this. So uh so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just delighted, delighted to have him.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to really work a lot on workforce development,

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<v Speaker 4>is going to work on education, uh, economic development. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are all intertwined because we're creating more jobs every

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<v Speaker 4>day in Ohio than we have.

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<v Speaker 5>People fill them.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got to make sure that everybody who uh

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<v Speaker 4>you know, is growing up, when they graduate high school,

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<v Speaker 4>they get they're on some pathway. Uh, and we help

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<v Speaker 4>them get the tools that they need to be able to.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, live live their version of the American dream.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what she's But he's he's all he's a

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<v Speaker 4>passionate guy about young people. He's just a natural leader,

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<v Speaker 4>and he leads young people, and that's what he really

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<v Speaker 4>has cared about his whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he see this as a stepping stone, because, as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in addition to being the governor, you're the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the Republican Party and you got veak Ramaswami

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<v Speaker 3>out there has announced, there's others going to announce for

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<v Speaker 3>your position. They want to be the governor. Is Trustle

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a candidate for governor in twenty twenty six?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Bill, he and I never I got the question

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<v Speaker 4>a similar question the other day, and he and I

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<v Speaker 4>never have talked about that. I mean, are what I

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<v Speaker 4>said to him is, you know, can you sign up

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<v Speaker 4>for basically a two years uh and and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do this and help us for for the next two years.

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<v Speaker 4>We never talked in any way, shape or form about

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<v Speaker 4>running running running for office, So that's not not certainly

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<v Speaker 4>not come up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he going to do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Fran France?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he going to do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Fran calculate? Fran calculated the day.

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<v Speaker 4>The days that it came up to almost exactly one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred weeks. So I said, will you sign up for

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred weeks, and he said, yes, I will.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't see him getting an exploratory committee together soon, because,

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<v Speaker 3>as you may know, the primary is a little over

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<v Speaker 3>a year away, and if he's going to run for

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<v Speaker 3>your gig, he's going to have to start raising money immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>But veg Ramaswami's a rich guy. Other people want the

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<v Speaker 3>job also, And I guess we're going to know in

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<v Speaker 3>the next six months if he establishes an exploratory committee

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<v Speaker 3>and starts raising money. Would Governor Mike DeWine be surprised?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't look forward to that. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 4>his focus is really the present. His focus is not

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<v Speaker 4>about running. You know, things could change in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand that, But I'm just telling you from my

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with him, we've never had a discussion about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>him him running for office.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not what he's signed up for, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Two or three other issues. One is the chip plant Intel.

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<v Speaker 3>There's reporting that Intel's having some difficulties. If I would

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<v Speaker 3>go to the site of the Intel plant that you

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<v Speaker 3>and Ustad like Governor put together a couple three years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>are you still confident the chip plant, the intel plant,

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<v Speaker 3>that big development in and around Columbus is gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes or no, Yes, absolutely, Bill, think about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh. And I may be off a couple of billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think they've already put into the ground literally

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<v Speaker 4>in building and building this material and construction costs of

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<v Speaker 4>about seven or eight billion dollars already in the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>And every day they're putting more, more and more money in.

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<v Speaker 4>They're doing more work. So there will be a chip

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<v Speaker 4>factory there. What we don't know is how fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh it will build out.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, they they committed to do two fabs,

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<v Speaker 4>as they say, uh, but they also told us that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there could be four times that much go

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<v Speaker 4>in if if business is good. We don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how that business is going to work out. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think anybody knows. But they're going to be making They're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be making chips work there, and it is

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<v Speaker 4>a great, great, great thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, another issue percolating is marijuana, and Ohio wins passed.

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<v Speaker 1>The marijuana law. They made it a.

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<v Speaker 3>Statute instead of a constitutional amendment. Those on the marijuana

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<v Speaker 3>side that are actually operating or unhappy with these moves

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<v Speaker 3>by the legislature to fifty percent increase and taxes to

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<v Speaker 3>the government, taking away local government money, which many consider critical.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a sense that possibly the leaders of the House

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate actually want to kill the marijuana situation

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<v Speaker 3>by sending more money to the dark market. As you

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<v Speaker 3>may know, in the first year, three hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>of legal sales took place to which took three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars out of the dark market, out of the

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<v Speaker 3>pockets of drug dealers. And now I think there are

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<v Speaker 3>some that are going to seemingly what they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do is make it more expensive in order to buy

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<v Speaker 3>legal marijuana. Is the there Where does the governor stand

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<v Speaker 3>on a fifty percent increase on money's going in state

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<v Speaker 3>and taking it away from local governments and making it

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<v Speaker 3>more expensive, which will drive more people to the dark market.

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<v Speaker 3>Where does Governor Mike Dwein stand on that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's the kind of leading question. Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me phrase it a little differently. When

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<v Speaker 4>the when this thing was written, keep in mind, it

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<v Speaker 4>was written by the UH people who wanted to make

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<v Speaker 4>money from marijuana, and they have every right to do

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<v Speaker 4>this and the people ended up voting for you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>People want to vote it for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I doubt if very few of them thought

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<v Speaker 4>about where the money from that is going to go to.

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<v Speaker 4>They basically were voting on, hey, should we have marijuana

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<v Speaker 4>or not have marijuana?

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<v Speaker 5>And I lost that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was I think it was a mistake,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's that's what the voter said. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to obviously live live with that. But there's

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<v Speaker 4>some goofy stuff in the way it was written. For example, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know you talk about money going to local government.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost like this crazy lottery. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, if if you were a township.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the village, uh, and you had you had a

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<v Speaker 4>facility there, Yeah, you got some money, but your your

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<v Speaker 4>neighbor over here another township that might need money, they

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<v Speaker 5>So you had winners, you had losers. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And So what we've done is try to identify some

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<v Speaker 4>needs in the state of Ohio, things that we do

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<v Speaker 4>not have money for, can't find any money for, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and utilize the money for that. Jails, for example, we

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<v Speaker 4>have problem with jails. We've got some of the people

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<v Speaker 4>in your rural counties that listen to you every single day.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, they're faced with spending a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of money to build a new jail or to

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<v Speaker 4>revitalize the jail. We want to help them in doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a lot of other things that we would

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<v Speaker 4>use this money for. So I think there's clearly room

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at what other states have done, clearer

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<v Speaker 4>room to raise the tax on that. We don't want

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<v Speaker 4>a situation where, you know, we drive people out of

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<v Speaker 4>the market. But also we need to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>take that money and frankly do some things that are

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the other issue is the Uh, those on the

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<v Speaker 3>marijuana side feel as if I'm speaking for them, not myself,

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<v Speaker 3>for you, but they think think they're being sandbagged by

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<v Speaker 3>uh rural edgrarian politicians in Columbus that I don't like marijuana.

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<v Speaker 3>I think most politicians in Columbus don't like marijuana and

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<v Speaker 3>they want to regulate it out of existence. And so

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying, Okay, we're going to take the abortion route.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're going to do is put in a constitutional

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<v Speaker 3>amendment and get that passed and get the lawmakers out

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<v Speaker 1>Are you concerned about that issue.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not concerned about that. Look, no one is

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<v Speaker 4>saying that we're not going to sell marijuana. Look, we

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<v Speaker 4>live in a country where the voters have of the

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<v Speaker 4>say they voted and they want legal sales of marijuana.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it was a mistake. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was a mistake because you know, uh, if you

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<v Speaker 4>look at young people, you know, the evidence is abundantly

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<v Speaker 4>clear that the frequent use of marijuana among kids whose

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<v Speaker 4>brain is still developing can end up with a significant

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<v Speaker 4>loss in IQ. I mean, that's a that's a real,

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<v Speaker 4>real problem. But that's what the that's what the voters

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<v Speaker 5>And so we're not going to uh roll back and

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<v Speaker 5>say we're going to go to prohibition. The voters are voted.

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<v Speaker 4>For it, and they're going to be able to buy

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<v Speaker 4>it in the state of Ohio. No one is saying

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<v Speaker 4>that that that we should go against the will of

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<v Speaker 4>the voters in regard to that. I just think that

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<v Speaker 4>how the money gets spent and where that money really

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<v Speaker 4>goes to. No one, no one who voted, very few

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<v Speaker 4>people who voted voted because they want that money, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to go to some of the different causes

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<v Speaker 4>that were contained in in that bill. I think we

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<v Speaker 4>have an obligation uh to respect the voters, uh provide

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<v Speaker 4>the marijuana uh in a in a legal and safe fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>or safe as you can make it. But we also

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<v Speaker 4>have an obligation to spend that money in a respectful way,

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<v Speaker 4>in an intelligent way.

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<v Speaker 3>In that regard, there's a lot of fake marijuana being

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fake marijuana being sold like inconvenience stores

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<v Speaker 3>that is not not selling as marijuana, and there's kids

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<v Speaker 3>buying that product. Couldn't that issue be dealt with off

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<v Speaker 3>to the side without having a complete overhaul?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, and uh you know, but we've asked the legislature

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<v Speaker 4>to do it. I've asked them, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 4>that I can stop that. Uh. And it is, as

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<v Speaker 4>you indicated, a real problem. Kids are buying this junk

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<v Speaker 4>uh and we have no way to stop uh these

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<v Speaker 4>people from selling it to them. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>leaders in the legislature have assured me that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>within the next several months they're going to pass legislation

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<v Speaker 4>to stop that. So I certainly hope that they do,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will I will quickly sign it, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, in your last two years, have about a minute

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<v Speaker 3>or two remaining, Governor Mike DeWine, what do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to accomplish the next year or two You've not yet done.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill, We're going to stay really focused on the basics,

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<v Speaker 4>investing in people. What he has used to say, you

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<v Speaker 4>win with people's.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really the key.

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<v Speaker 4>We want every kid who graduates from high school to

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<v Speaker 4>be on some pathway. We want kids to stay in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we want everybody to live up to their

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<v Speaker 4>God given potential. To do that, we need to remove

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<v Speaker 4>barriers that stop them. One of the big barriers today's

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<v Speaker 4>the mental mental health problems. We're trying to build out

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<v Speaker 4>a system that no matter where you live in the

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<v Speaker 4>state of Ohio, you will have access to good mental

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<v Speaker 4>health health care.

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<v Speaker 5>We're focused on what we call the.

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<v Speaker 4>Science of reading and education phonics, sounding words out. We

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<v Speaker 4>got away from that for about twenty or twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>We've paid a heavy, heavy, heavy price. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're focused on kids, focused on reading, focused on giving

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last I know, townshow.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a text here from a township trustee not

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<v Speaker 3>happy about taking money away from townships. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>text here from a legal marijuana business saying they're outraged

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<v Speaker 3>to what's happening. And I would think that Matt Huffman,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the Speaker of the House, is going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to have these hearings to indicate how much you can

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<v Speaker 3>raise without driving people into the dark market. A three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollars out of the pockets of drug dealers

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<v Speaker 3>is a great thing and really destroyed the marijuana business.

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<v Speaker 3>When someone can go to Michigan, for example, and pay

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<v Speaker 3>a lot less money makes no sense, and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Huffman takes that into account once again. Governor Mike Dewaine,

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<v Speaker 3>you shocked the world by appointing Jim Tressell as the

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<v Speaker 3>lieutenant governor, and we'll see what happens down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you endorsing anyone for your seat or are you

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's much too early to getting in the

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<v Speaker 4>endorsement business. I mean, what what my job is, I

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<v Speaker 4>think is to really kind of tell the people to

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<v Speaker 4>state where we are in these different issues and outline

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<v Speaker 4>at least what I think is important. And I think educating,

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<v Speaker 4>educating people given the tools they need to be successful.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's what we need to continue to do.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Mike DeWine, Thank you very much, Governor, State

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<v Speaker 3>of Ohio. Get my best a friend as as Valentine's

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<v Speaker 3>Day approaches, and know you're going to give her a

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<v Speaker 3>box of candy and some flowers. You two have been

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<v Speaker 3>through a lot in your life. Incredible journey and last

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<v Speaker 3>we had thirty seconds. When your term is up? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you done? D u n and done? Are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to back to Cedarville? You're going to be a Miami

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<v Speaker 3>University trustee? Are you done? Are you done with politics?

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<v Speaker 1>Next year?

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<v Speaker 4>Why I'm running again, Bill, But I'm going to stay

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<v Speaker 4>pack even things and you know the same things I

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<v Speaker 4>care about today, which is you know about kids and

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<v Speaker 4>kids who are you know, have difficulties, challenges and you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not sure exactly, but I got two more

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<v Speaker 4>years and my focus right now is on those, on

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<v Speaker 4>those two years and the one hundred weeks that we've

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Governor Mike Dwine, You're a great American. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Governor.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Let's continue with more news.

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