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And if you live out 28 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.719 of area, you know there are always electronic ways of 29 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:39.000 doing this. In fact, we just did a beautiful, beautiful couple. 30 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.319 We just did a zoom consult with them. They live 31 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.640 in Albuquerque, and we did a zoom consult with them, 32 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.680 and it looks like we're going to be stepping up 33 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.319 and actually doing the design on their home, and which 34 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.879 means Tina and I now have to go to Albuquerque. 35 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.200 But the consult that was entirely remote and and it 36 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:03.079 worked out just great. So you've got options. Just go 37 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:07.599 to house whisper dot Design. All right, it is an 38 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.840 all calls Sunday morning and doing nothing but calls, and 39 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.120 I want to get back to the phones. Let's talk 40 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.080 to Albert. Hey, Albert, welcome home, Hello Dean. 41 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.240 Why don't the kinder change some silly lamps? They're ali 42 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.879 d and at night you could see light coming through 43 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.400 to the switch off. Why what did I do that? 44 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:35.520 Okay? So are these recess can lights up in the 45 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.319 ceiling or they're just lamps that you put LED bulbs in. 46 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:45.120 They're like the eighteen in diameter silly lamps. I guess 47 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:51.120 there's stock where the alied bulbs, and especially at night, 48 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.479 the switches off and it's still some dim coming through 49 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:55.360 these light bulbs. 50 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.759 Okay, So now here's an important question to two important questions. 51 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.919 Uh do they do they eventually stop glowing or just 52 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.719 they stay on all night long? 53 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.120 They stay on night They stay on all night long? 54 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.960 Okay, and today but you can't see it, okay? Yeah? Yeah. 55 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:20.599 And the second question is the switch that controls uh 56 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:24.000 these is it a dimmer? Is it a specialty switch? 57 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.840 Is just a regular on off switch? What do you 58 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:26.599 got going on there? 59 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.360 It's a regular one and that was changed they put 60 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:30.759 a new one on and still does that. 61 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:33.639 Okay. So they already changed out the switch and it's 62 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.960 just an on off regular switch. And you you know 63 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.280 for certain that that on off switch is compatible with 64 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:40.520 LED bulbs? 65 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:50.319 That I don't know, but uh electric uh electrician, professional electrician. 66 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:52.199 He put it in for us, So. 67 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.520 I sure what the difference was all right. Uh So, 68 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.400 the reason I asked that question is that it's it's 69 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.680 actually not at all an uncommon thing. It's called phantom 70 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.719 voltage or ghosting. It's not an uncommon thing for indoor 71 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.960 LED lights to emit a faint glow even when they 72 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:16.360 are turned off. Now, most of the time people notice 73 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.800 that and then they come back later and they realize, oh, no, 74 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:22.319 it's not glowing. And that's simply because of the way 75 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.240 an LED light is built. LEDs, by the way, are 76 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.759 super super sensitive to voltage, which is one of the 77 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.240 reasons why they take such lower amounts of voltage to 78 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.439 operate in, which why there's such energy saving bulbs. But 79 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:43.319 they're super sensitive to voltage. So when an LED is 80 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:48.800 turned off, the inside its system there's a capacitor and 81 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.839 there's an inductor, and then as soon as the voltage 82 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.519 is turned off to the LED, the capacitor starts discharging 83 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.399 its energy and that alone keeps the LED sort of 84 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.800 glowing for a while until it comes to zero, and 85 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:05.399 the inductor as well. So that's why I asked if 86 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.079 they eventually go off. Now, if that's the case, that's 87 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.399 just sort of normal old LED situations. And it's nothing 88 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:19.160 to worry about. If they literally are on just all night, 89 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:23.240 then you have one of two things. You've either got 90 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.480 a switch controlling them. Most commonly, it's a dimmer switch 91 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.920 that has been purchased that just isn't for whatever reason, 92 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.800 compatible enough, and even when it's down on low or 93 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:41.720 on off, it's leaking a faint amount of voltage and 94 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:47.920 keeping those LEDs glowing at some low level. The easiest 95 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:51.160 way to find that out is just to change out 96 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.720 the dimmer or change out the switch. Now you said 97 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.879 that electrician already did that. I just want to know. 98 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:59.800 I want to make sure that they know, and I'm 99 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.720 assuming if it's a license electrician, that they do know 100 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:07.360 that there are switches that are compatible with LED bulbs 101 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:11.399 and switches that are not the easiest way to isolate 102 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.199 whether it's the switch is simply this. It's not to 103 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.519 just switch out one switch to the next. It's to 104 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:24.120 remove the switch and then see while the wires are 105 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.439 completely disconnected okay, connected to no switch, which means off, 106 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.959 to see if those lights are still glowing when there's 107 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.040 no new switch put in place, just an empty box 108 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:43.639 with you know, safely wire nutted, capped wires. If if 109 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.560 when there's no switch there at all and the switch 110 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.439 is completely disconnected, if those lights are off like off, 111 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.720 then it is a switch compatibility issue, okay, And that's 112 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:57.680 that's good news, and that you're just going to have 113 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.399 to find the right switch to control those lights that 114 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.560 will actually you know, douse all the cut off all 115 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.439 the energy and not leak any of them through. 116 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.800 But if the switches, would I buy one, what would 117 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:10.680 I have to ask for? 118 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.839 Uh? You know that they're not hard to find. You 119 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.680 just need to when you're in the electrical aisle at 120 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:19.720 the hardware store at the big box store. You just 121 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.639 need to look for the simplest led compatible switch. And 122 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.839 if they say it right on the okay, yeah, that's easy. 123 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.319 And so so if they're off when the switch is disconnected, 124 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:37.560 then it's the switch, okay. Uh. If they if the 125 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:42.519 switch is disconnected and they are still glowing, then what 126 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.560 you have is a situation where and it's not necessarily 127 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.399 a something to worry about, but what you have is 128 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.279 you've got voltage leakage from somewhere else. It could be 129 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:58.959 a ground wire that isn't ground properly, completely grounded properly, 130 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.079 the neutral wire, the white wire. If it's not completely 131 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:07.879 grounded properly, it might be carrying faint, faint amounts of 132 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.879 phantom voltage and just enough. It wouldn't light anything else 133 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.040 in the world up, but it's just enough to activate 134 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.000 a glow, a faint glow on an LED. And if 135 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:23.720 that's the case, then an electrician needs to take a 136 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:27.279 more serious look at the system. If it's bugging you. Again, 137 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.079 I don't see it as a threat to your home, 138 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.519 but it's certainly weird, and so they would take a 139 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.200 more serious look at the system. They would voltage test 140 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:40.080 circuits and find out if we can locate where phantom 141 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:44.559 voltage is getting in other than the direct line. And 142 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.840 that happens every once in a while. But I got 143 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.519 to tell you, Albert, most of the time, most of 144 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:53.600 the time, it's the switch almost all the time, or 145 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.559 there's something wrong with the lamp itself, but most of 146 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.720 the time it's the switch. Thanks for the question, really 147 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.440 good question. I hope that helps a very very simple 148 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.559 test to find out if it's the switch, and then 149 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:06.559 you move on from there. 150 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.000 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 151 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:12.600 KFI AM six forty. 152 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:17.360 Dean sharp the house whisper at your service. Thanks for 153 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.960 joining us on the program today. Always a pleasure to 154 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.200 have you with us, Always a privilege to be here 155 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.519 in your ear talking about this thing that means so 156 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.000 much to all of us, Home and how to take 157 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.919 your home to the next level. We're doing that today. 158 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.720 Just be by taking calls. It's an all calls Sunday morning. 159 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.440 It's been an all call weekend. All calls yesterday's if 160 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.440 you're a podcast listener, previous episode as well, Nothing but 161 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.639 calls yesterday, Nothing but calls today. Let's go back to 162 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.639 the phones and have some fun. I want to talk 163 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:53.200 to Jim. Hey Jim, welcome home. 164 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.240 Hey Dean, how's it going. 165 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.200 It's going great. How are you my friend? How can 166 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:00.080 I help you? 167 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.320 I'm doing all right. I just have a quick question 168 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:06.879 because my uh my dad used to be a contractor 169 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:12.240 and he's given me some advice. But I'm wondering because 170 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.759 you know, coach change and stuff over time. I added 171 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.120 a mini split to my garage so that I can 172 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.279 make that into a game room for my kids. But 173 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.200 I want to get one of them big barn sheds 174 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.440 in my backyard and I want to run electrical to 175 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:30.399 it and another mini split out there. I was wondering, 176 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.000 do I have to pull permits and stuff to do 177 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:33.360 all that? 178 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.960 Yep, yep, you do. Uh and I'm assuming. 179 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:42.279 Tell me that. 180 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.960 Here's the good news, though, Jim, is that it's not 181 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.919 like you know, if you're running depending on the size 182 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.200 of the shed. First of all, right, there are shed 183 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.360 you know. Shed shed is an interesting term. Most cities, 184 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:04.200 most municipality have a clear definition of what a shed 185 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.840 versus a garage versus something else is, right, So the 186 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.360 shed alone depending on the size. So you just got 187 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:12.480 to call the city and find out, hey, what's the 188 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.759 cutoff square footage for a shed for you guys? Right, 189 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.759 and they'll tell you sheds don't need permits to be 190 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:23.000 put on property. I don't know a single city that 191 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.279 says you got to have a permit for a shed. Okay, 192 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:28.679 you can just drop it. Boom, there it is. I 193 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:30.639 got a storage shed. I got a bunch of storage 194 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.960 sheds here on my property, right, I don't need a 195 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.840 permit for the shed because because they fall under the 196 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:41.159 square footage of what the city considers a shed. If 197 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.279 you go over that, then you've got a whole nother 198 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:45.720 thing on your hands. But the point is this, as 199 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.519 far as the running electrical, I can run electricity any 200 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.799 shed here in my property to have a light and 201 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.120 have a you know, whatever whatever is going on there. 202 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.159 And most of the time when you're just running electrical 203 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.120 to a shed, you just got to do it by code. 204 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:02.200 And the permit is going to very likely be an 205 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.399 over the counter permit, so it's not gonna be some 206 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.080 big hassle. It's not like you gotta submit drawings and 207 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:11.559 you gotta do this and that. I gotta storage shed, 208 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.840 I want to run electrical to it. I'm gonna go. 209 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.039 I'm gonna do it right. I'm going I got an 210 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:20.600 underground conduit, you know, eight PVC con do it eighteen 211 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.559 inches underground, or a metal con doit more than six 212 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.879 inches underground. I'm running over and here's the light, and 213 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.080 here's the switch, and here's the outlet. And they're going 214 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:31.840 to hand you a piece of paper and say count 215 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.679 the outlets and the switches and the light fixture for us, 216 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.720 and give us this much money, and you walk home 217 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.799 with your permit, and then you're just gonna have to 218 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:43.879 call after you dig the trench. The inspector's going to 219 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:45.960 want to see the conduit laying in the bottom of 220 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.679 a properly dug trench, and he's gonna say, okay, go ahead, 221 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.279 fill up the trench, you pull your wires, put it 222 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.360 all in, and he's gonna come back and say, all right, 223 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.559 it all looks fine. He's gonna sign it off and 224 00:12:57.639 --> 00:12:58.799 walk away and you're done. 225 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:02.639 All right. That sounds a lot easier than what I 226 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.200 thought I was going to have to do to run 227 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:05.720 my table cells and stuff out there. 228 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:10.720 So yeah, yeah, so the But honestly, you know, I mean, 229 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.399 most building departments, contrary to popular opinion, are not there 230 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.080 to make your life miserable. And believe me, they they 231 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.879 they're not looking to h to make their job any harder. 232 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.200 And so when it comes to that kind of a 233 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:27.799 thing running water to a shed, run in electricity too, 234 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.399 they just want to make sure it's done right now, 235 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.360 they're going to get their pound of flesh. But it's 236 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:32.919 not going to be it's not going to go through 237 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.679 plan check, you know, with drawings and all of that. 238 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.879 They just going to want you to count outlets, count switches, 239 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.720 count light fixtures, and they've got a fixed charge for 240 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.000 you it's going to be twenty five dollars per outlet, 241 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.320 and then there it is. You pay the money, you 242 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.879 get the permit, the inspector inspects. It's those kinds of things. 243 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.600 It's like a roofing permit, right, nobody has to draw 244 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.799 a picture of your house to get a roofing permit. 245 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.879 The roofer pulls a permit. Hey, we're doing a reroof 246 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.080 are like, okay, it'll be this much money and we'll 247 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.799 see you after the tear offf is done. So it's 248 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.799 that kind of thing. Yeah, it's it's more hassle than 249 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.360 you just doing it all by yourself, but it's a 250 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:16.039 lot less than a whole house permit and drawings and 251 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.559 all that jazz. So that's a little bit of good 252 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:19.360 news at least for you. 253 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.039 Great great news for me because I thought I was 254 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.480 going to have to put through grinds and stuff. 255 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:27.120 No, not at all. 256 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:29.000 Thank you. 257 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:31.960 All right, buddy, thanks for the question. Good luck on that. 258 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.279 While you're talking to the city. Make sure that your 259 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.679 shed it falls within the definition of shed because that's 260 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.320 the problem that that's the point that surprises some people 261 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.279 is they get like a garage size shed. I'm doing 262 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.799 air quotes, and they find out that the city does 263 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:54.039 not consider that a shed. They consider that a garage structure, 264 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.320 and that does require drawings and all sorts of other thingies. 265 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.279 So just check with this city first so you don't 266 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.480 have to backtrack or run into any problems. 267 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.840 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 268 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:09.720 KFI AM six forty. 269 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.440 Loving our show today. I am, I hope you are. 270 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.639 It's an all calls Sunday morning, nothing but your calls, 271 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:20.879 and we've got more calls ahead of us. So I 272 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.759 want to get right back to it. I want to 273 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:26.399 talk to Louis. Hey, Louie, welcome home. 274 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:28.360 Hey Dean, how you doing? 275 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:30.559 I'm good? How can I help you? 276 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:35.279 Bud American Standard, A few questions. Is it a quality? 277 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.759 Is it worth the extended warranty? And is this a 278 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.480 good time now that I got to put a new 279 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.519 heater in, to put in maybe a whole house filter 280 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:46.759 and also a recirculation valve. 281 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:52.279 Okay, all right, let me miss backpedal here for a 282 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.960 half second, because I wasn't writing all that down. Okay, 283 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:01.840 American Standard. American Standard is a massive brand, and so 284 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:03.480 you're talking about an AC system. 285 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.200 Yeah, it's a water heat water heater. 286 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:12.200 Oh, a water heater, Okay, yeah, yeah yeah. American Standard 287 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.879 generally speaking, is a solid brand. I mean they've been 288 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:19.200 around since the I want to say, the nineteen twenties, 289 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:25.039 maybe earlier, no, actually before the nineteen twenties, and it's 290 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:29.080 a good brand it has been. Here's the irony, of course, right, 291 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:34.159 this is the world we live in. American Standard in 292 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.720 twenty thirteen was purchased by Lixil Corporation, which is a 293 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:44.159 Japanese company, a Japanese multinational company. So technically American Standard 294 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.559 is owned by a Japanese multinational now as of twenty thirteen. 295 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.879 But the point is they are still manufacturing very high 296 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.799 quality stuff and you know, and it's always a unit 297 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.000 for unit basis. They make HVAC system, They obviously make 298 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:03.600 a lot of plumbing, UH fixtures and supplies and toilets 299 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.119 and so on, uh and also UH water heaters and 300 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.799 so uh. If it matches up with the specs that 301 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.559 you want for your house, I don't think it's a 302 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.119 bad choice at all. And you know, there are a 303 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:18.920 lot of them out there to choose from, so you 304 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.400 just have to, you know, make the best choice. Possible, 305 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.440 But there's there's nothing wrong with an American Standard product 306 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:27.599 as far as I know. There may be some plumbers 307 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.720 listing who and and plumbing and hvac guys, all of us, 308 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.720 all of our, all of us builders in our own specialties. 309 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.319 We all have our preferences and we're all like, no, 310 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.599 not that thing, you got to use this one instead. 311 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.960 But you know, uh, it's it's just an ongoing matter 312 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.759 of debate. Some products, some brands we all shy away 313 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:52.400 from all of us. But American Standard is not one 314 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.119 of those brands. It's debatable between some pros, but it's 315 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.079 just not so. So yeah, I'm going to tell you 316 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.519 that you know, you probably won't be going wrong going 317 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.039 in that direction. So that's the brand. Now throw the 318 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:05.519 other questions at me real quick. 319 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:12.400 The extended warranty from six to twelve years, Well, it. 320 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.039 Depends on how much the extended warranty is costing. You 321 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:20.279 are two hundred bucks and this is just the standard 322 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:21.200 tanked water heater. 323 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.880 I don't know if it's a standard. One of the 324 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:28.920 people that advertise on you is going to be doing it, 325 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.599 so I don't know if it's standard. I can give 326 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:35.839 you the price. If that tells you the quality level 327 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.640 of it any one to twenty five hundred. 328 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:42.480 Yeah, you said, you know, get the extended warranty, because 329 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.079 when I say standard, I just mean a tanked water heater, 330 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:46.839 not a tankless, it's a tanked water heater. 331 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.720 No, it's a tank. Yes, it's a normal yess. 332 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:53.759 Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't. I don't think they're 333 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.599 you know, for for a couple of hundred bucks, get 334 00:18:55.640 --> 00:19:01.240 the extended warranty. You know, keep that protection, uh, because 335 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.559 you know, at some point something always goes funky with 336 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.200 a tanked water heater, and it'd be nice to know 337 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:09.359 that you could get that far and you know, not 338 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.319 have to lay down someone. It's going to cost you 339 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.839 more than two hundred dollars to fix whatever is going 340 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:16.799 to fix down the road, you know. And I know 341 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:18.880 that's the way it is with all protection plans, but 342 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:20.559 some are worth it, some or not. For a couple 343 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:25.559 of hundred bucks out of you know, just do it. 344 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:26.559 I would, I would just do it. 345 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.559 So is it a good time Now that I'm out 346 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:32.680 of this money, I might as well just stump a 347 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.359 little bit more into the whole house filter and the 348 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.319 recirculation valve. You think it's this is the time to 349 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:40.720 do it when you're getting a new heater. 350 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.000 Yeah, why not? Why not? The recirculation valve pump is 351 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.720 a is always a good idea for for a house. 352 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.319 Uh that, I mean it does if you're tight on 353 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:54.160 the money right now, you know you could do both 354 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.960 of those later. But you know, while you're messing with 355 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:00.359 all of it, you know if if, if it's within 356 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:02.400 your budget reach yet, just get it all done now 357 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.680 and don't worry about it later. 358 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.319 Great, thanks for the information. 359 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.119 All right, buddy, thank you for the call. I've seen 360 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.359 your name on the board for most of the show, 361 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:16.200 and I just thank you so much for hanging in there, 362 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:18.960 and I wanted to do my best to reward you 363 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.680 for I'm looking across the board. Louis was there. I 364 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:25.960 think he's been here since the first segment of the show, 365 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.400 or pretty close to it, so he's just been hanging on. 366 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.960 So I wanted to make sure I honored that. Where 367 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.119 are we at? Here? Where are we at? 368 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:33.200 On? 369 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:34.160 Time? Do I have time to? 370 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:34.319 Oh? 371 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.240 I do I've got time to at least start one. 372 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.680 I want to talk to Barbara. Hey, Barbara, welcome home. 373 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.039 Ah, thank you, Thanks for taking my call. This has 374 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:51.240 to do with asbestos. Twenty years ago or so, our 375 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.400 house was tested and the only place they found it 376 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:57.880 was in the garage. And they told us at the 377 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.799 time that as long as we did in anything, to 378 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.880 just leave it because we don't work in the garage 379 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:09.000 or anything. So now we're considering selling the house, and 380 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:15.519 we had the garage tested again because it's been so long, 381 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.680 and it showed that the ceiling had a three percent 382 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:24.400 crystal tile and that the wall joints had a two 383 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:31.440 percent crystal tile. And the people that did the testing 384 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:32.599 can't do the abatement. 385 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.440 I guess by lost right. 386 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:41.160 So does this need to have be removed? Can we 387 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.880 cover it? Cover it with paint? Anyway? 388 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:47.279 What do I do next? 389 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:50.720 Okay? So you're you're getting ready to sell the house 390 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:56.359 and this is a dry walled garage, the finished garage wall. Yes, okay, 391 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:04.720 the simplest, least expensive way to legally and safely alleviate 392 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.720 the asbestos issue. And you're absolutely right, and everybody needs 393 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.119 to be informed that the asbestos is of no danger 394 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.240 to anybody as long as it is not disturbed. It's 395 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.559 only when it gets disturbed and it goes airborne, Is 396 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:20.920 it breatheable? And then then you have you know, asbestos 397 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.440 related health concerns. 398 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.519 Okay, I need a definition of disturbing it. 399 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.960 Disturbing it literally means rubbing, rubbing up against it and 400 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.920 uh and causing it to uh, you know, to powder 401 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:39.240