WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.359 He was part of the SoCon one hundred anniversary team 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.559 as a member of that football side of things and 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.480 played two sports at Furman played in the NFL, had 4 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.320 some great plays and had some great moments and great 5 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.199 memories as a professional football player. It's our good friend, 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.600 Luther Broughton, Lou what's going on, babe? 7 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.920 Johann E what's Baker? What's going on? 8 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:22.160 Been too long? Listen? 9 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.640 Since the last time we spoke pre Super Bowl, I've 10 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.960 had to replay a couple of your interviews like twice 11 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.239 because we've been craving the Luther content. We love it, 12 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.759 and it's always good to reflect when there's something notable 13 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.679 in the NFL, such as John Gruden in the news 14 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.719 or maybe one of these Eagles coaches or Chiefs coaches. 15 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.479 You know about fifty of them. But it's good to 16 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.000 get you back on Live. Man. How you been. How's 17 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:45.439 the family? 18 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.560 Man? Every day is groovy and their family is great. 19 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:54.320 We're healthy, you know, still looking like a dis Elba 20 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:58.520 in my mind, So I mean, everything is good, Bro. 21 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.320 It's good to hear you, man. And Luther. 22 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:05.040 You can follow him on Twitter at Richard eighty four 23 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.959 and he's a great follow on social man. So here 24 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.719 we are in this weird time of year in the NFL. 25 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.920 We'll get some basketball takes from it. From a minute, 26 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:15.280 is the Joker? 27 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.680 My god? Last night? Oh goodness, sixty ten and ten. 28 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.120 You can't. 29 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.159 He makes it look too easy. 30 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.200 He does. He just does. 31 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:30.319 He just makes it look too easy. He's just unbothered. 32 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:35.439 He's just good at basketball. Yeah, MVP, MVP, what do 33 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:40.159 you say, Come on, they're having a Joker for tegue, 34 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.200 so say you'll just Alexander's gonna win. 35 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.599 Tell you, I'm telling you it's MB part two, right. 36 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:53.000 No, it's not. It's it's Michael Jordan's part two. You know. 37 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.599 They had m J fort and that's why MJ doesn't 38 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.599 have eight m vps. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest. 39 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:04.079 They Lebron's for team too. That's why he probably should 40 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.519 have won it when d Rose won it, he probably 41 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.759 should have won it. Went hard and won it. No, 42 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.280 he definitely shouldn't have won Rookie of the Year over Carmelo. 43 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.560 But that's a different story for a different day. But 44 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.680 I think Joker is the MVP. Dude, He's like top 45 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:20.639 three in everything. 46 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.360 I think part of it too, Look is a guy 47 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.479 who played basketball in college is a guy that obviously 48 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:30.639 has been around professional athletics most of his adult life. 49 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.080 You know this, and you know how the media likes 50 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:37.400 to do this. There is not a shiny object when 51 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.680 you look at Jokic. He can be dull. He can be. 52 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.879 Boring by design. That's just who he is. 53 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:44.800 And so we look at the greatness of what he 54 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.280 brings to the table. And this guy's like that in 55 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.759 the NFL that just have you know, a pet Rock 56 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.840 type of personality. But they're done it and it's just 57 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:55.319 a stone coldness about him. 58 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:55.439 Man. 59 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:56.520 We were up there in Charlotte. 60 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.560 You were you at the game where the Hornets almost 61 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.919 beat the Nuggets earlier this year. 62 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:03.840 I took my kids up there, and I should have 63 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.280 asked I that game. 64 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:10.879 That was like prime Yo Kics down there in the 65 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.719 low post at the end where you've got Obviously I. 66 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:19.000 Watched it and I remember the gain was at the end. 67 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:19.759 It's what he does. 68 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.840 It's like, what do you do? You can't do anything 69 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:23.639 to stop there. 70 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.759 No, there's nothing you can do. Man, Well here's. 71 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.159 Another I love it. I'm a fan. I know some 72 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.400 people are like, oh, it's boring. Blah blah blah. No, 73 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.159 I'm I'm a massive fan, dude. I love watching him play. 74 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:36.719 A huge fan, you know, ball. 75 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.960 That's why Luther Bronton joins us here for we're firm 76 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.759 and great former NFL tied end uh And I wanted 77 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.919 to get you on here because, look I joked about 78 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.960 it on Facebook earlier, that are our our tush push insider. 79 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.919 Look here, I say that because you're one of the 80 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:54.520 guys we talked to on this show. And we have 81 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:56.400 a number of guys who played in the league that 82 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.599 we talked to, but you're my favorite because you give 83 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.159 us great stories and great inside and you played at 84 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:03.759 a high level at a very important position tight end 85 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.039 in Andy Reid's offense. Obviously, this is not Andy Reid's design, 86 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.479 it's it's a different type of play. I know you 87 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.080 are a loyal Eagles guy. They are a great organization 88 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.400 in terms of fighting the legends back. I saw you 89 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:19.920 at the parade again this year. But that play the dynamics, 90 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:24.199 give me your give me your sense of what it is, 91 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.120 Is it right, should it be banned? 92 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:27.279 And where are you at with it? 93 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:28.879 Because you and I have not even talked about this 94 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.240 so what's wrong with it? I just want to know 95 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.160 what's wrong with it. It's within the rules. There's nothing 96 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:40.319 against the rules. They're not doing something like backing into 97 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.519 people to draw files like James Harden used to do, 98 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.040 stopping short to draw file. They're basically going to quarterback 99 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:52.000 sneak within the rules and no one can stop it. 100 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.600 Other teams have tried it. They don't have out personnel. 101 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.959 Part of it is we have a great offensive line. 102 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.600 Another part of it is we have a quarterback that 103 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:04.079 squat six hundred pounds. 104 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.439 Thank you. I've been saying this. 105 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.120 We have a witting room quarterback. 106 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.720 I've been saying this nause him on this show that 107 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:12.720 it and you look. I have different thoughts on this plane. 108 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.399 I'll share them minute. But people underestimate the lower body 109 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.120 strength of Jalen Hurts. That's really a big element of 110 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:20.120 what makes this whole thing go. 111 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:23.920 That's a massive elod You know who ran a really 112 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:28.439 great quarterback sneak, Tom Brady, and no one wanted to 113 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:33.199 outlaw it. You know they're saying they're lying because they're 114 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:37.920 talking about safety and health and injury. That's a lie. John. 115 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.360 Let's let's be honest people, don't get hurt in the 116 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.800 test push. Look, if you look at it, no one's 117 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.839 getting hurt in the test push. You know when people 118 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.920 get hurt John drop back passing. Are we going to 119 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:53.839 outlaw drop back passing because injuries happened? No, we're not. 120 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.439 And I'm being ridiculous with a ridiculous example, but we're 121 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:03.120 not going to outlaw drop that passing because people get hurt. Okay, 122 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:07.959 So what they're doing is the Eagles basically have first 123 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.720 and eighty every possession of first and not every possession. 124 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.319 The people are sound jealous to me, the people that 125 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.600 Green Bay sounds ridiculous when they're like, oh, I'm not 126 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.480 the one who wrote it up, but it seems like 127 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.560 it's a safety issue. And then Sean McVeigh all people, 128 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.680 he said, the optics of the play looks bad. 129 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.720 Yeah, yeah, that's something a fan would say. That's something 130 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.199 a fan would say. To me, I was surprised and 131 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.279 a little disappointed by McVeigh, because. 132 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.600 I was extremely disappointed by McVeigh. McVeigh was the one 133 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.199 that disappointed me the most. The optics of the play. 134 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.920 You don't like how it looks Are you kidding me? 135 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.720 You know what's a horrible rule bringing the ball out 136 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.680 to the thirty five yard line on a touchback. How 137 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:58.560 about that one? 138 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.360 Well, that's crazy what they're trying to do. 139 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:02.480 Let's talk about that. 140 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.319 Let's do that. Let me I'm gonna get to that 141 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:04.759 in a minute. 142 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.720 But here's my thing about the tush push. I don't 143 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.319 know how familiar you are with Logan Ryan. He he 144 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:13.279 played in the league for a few years and he 145 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.839 was a yeah, New England, Tennessee And I heard him 146 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.040 on a podcast recently and he raised a point that 147 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.519 and comes from the Belichick school of thoughts. So I'm 148 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.600 sure this is in the most defensive guys, I'm sure 149 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.199 hate this play and some respect it. I've heard Vrabel 150 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.079 come out, he's a defensive guy. He's like, what are 151 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.000 we gonna do ban Lamar Jackson from running? 152 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:38.480 What are we doing here? But Lamar? I mean not Lamar. Geez. 153 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:41.680 Logan Ryan's had something along the lines of this to say, 154 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.600 let's say you're a defensive unit and and how many 155 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.120 times do we see this you're backed up as an offense. 156 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.879 Let's say it's Philly and it's Saquon backed up at 157 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.279 the minus two yard line, and let's say, you've got 158 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:57.199 a swarm of linebackers that tackle him right at the 159 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.920 goal line and he ends up landing in the end zone. 160 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.800 But Ford progress. It was about the Ford Progress rule. 161 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:07.680 And his thinking was, as a defense, why are we 162 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.000 not allowed to gain yardage at any point of the field. 163 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.079 The safety is just an example, But any point of 164 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.959 the field, why is Ford progress always called that early? 165 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.480 And the tush push is allowed and you're allowed all 166 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.240 this downfield shoving as different. 167 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.199 That's a different story. That's that's a that's a part 168 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.279 of the play. If you're if you're if you're arguing 169 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:32.320 that they're not calling it correctly, that's completely different of 170 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:38.000 the DS safety. And I totally agree with him. If 171 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.320 you're if you're going to always say, you know, possession 172 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.440 will stop, let's stop the ball, and you're not going 173 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.879 to do that on a test push. Logan Ryan has 174 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.679 an absolutely great pullt. 175 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:48.919 Here's the thing. 176 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.399 As a guy who played in the trenches, Luther Bronton 177 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.320 joins this former NFL tied end. I would imagine the 178 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.399 Ford Progress rule, and I know a lot about the NFL, 179 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:58.960 but I don't know enough to know when that was 180 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.600 put in. I imagine it was put in after somebody 181 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.840 got their leg snapped in half, with five or six 182 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.679 defensive guys pushing them back five or six yards, and 183 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:08.759 then finally it was a pile. 184 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.000 So at some point the play is over. That's what 185 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:12.840 that's all about. 186 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.039 Well, but to but here's the thing. You've got you 187 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.279 still at this point, Loud, You've still got guys. And 188 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.120 what I'm more against than the toush push is the 189 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:25.000 fact that you still have a cavalcade sometimes a convoy 190 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.279 of two or three linemen going downfield and they're grabbing 191 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.639 and holding and pushing. 192 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:30.519 The pile down the field. 193 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.039 That to me is inconsistent, and that puts the defense 194 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.559 in a bind. I don't dislike it in theory because 195 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.639 I love physical football, but I think defenses have been 196 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:44.600 such they've been so handicapped since the early two thousands, 197 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.399 when you know Doungee and Peyton Manning and others took 198 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.320 away some of the physicality. They put it in front 199 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.120 of the league and the league once points in scoring. 200 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.000 I just thought it was interesting that Logan brought that 201 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.240 up because it brings home a different perspective. 202 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.519 It's a really good point. I'm not gonna lie. It's 203 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:01.639 a really good point. 204 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.399 You know what, I feel, I've got a conspiracy real quick. 205 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.399 I think the Commander's Eagles. You remember the NFC Championship. 206 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:09.960 I don't know if you were there in attendance or not. 207 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.639 I'm sure you might have been, because you're an Eagles nut, 208 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.080 and you're always everywhere loo, I mean you're always at 209 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.000 every game I ever see. But when that game was 210 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.840 out of hand and they were trying to do a 211 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.360 little toush push at the end, and they Dan Quinn, 212 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.960 who I love, by the way, sent Luvu over the 213 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.720 top what four or five times, and Sean Hockeyy finally 214 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.639 came out and said, look, here's the. 215 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:34.279 Deal, y'all. 216 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.639 We're gonna give him the touchdown if this doesn't stop. 217 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.519 To me, I almost think the Commanders. I don't think 218 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.480 it's this diabolical, but I almost think part of it's 219 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.159 like somebody in that STAPs like, look, let's do this, 220 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.559 not only to try to stop it in a unique way, 221 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.279 but let's try to shine a light on this and 222 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:55.840 get the Competition Committee's attention, because the unattended consequences of 223 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.879 that could have been Luvu breaks his neck falling down, 224 00:10:58.960 --> 00:10:59.399 or you. 225 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:02.960 Know, you know what, like that was stupid. 226 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.840 Actually, yeah, what not the way to stop it? 227 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.480 You know what I'm saying, that's not the way to 228 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.440 stop it. I mean, if you want to bring attention 229 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.840 that way, go ahead, more power chief. What you did 230 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.120 was connor ridiculous. I mean, you could have done You 231 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.080 could have done that on any play. That could have 232 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.519 been any play. You also could have hurt the quarterback 233 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:27.159 that it was just diving across at basically at the 234 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:28.039 quarterback steat. 235 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.840 It was that it was overkilled after a while. And 236 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.919 I have to believe that that look, and again I'm speculating. 237 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.120 I don't know what dan Quinn's intentions are. He's a 238 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:38.759 good man, he's a good coach. But I think at 239 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.639 that point they're just trying anything they can to disrupt 240 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:43.159 that play and know, when the game was kind of 241 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.720 out a hand, it's gonna be Look, they're going to 242 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:50.600 revisit it, and some of Roger Goodell's comments yesterday seemed 243 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.759 to suggest that they're not going to just ban it. 244 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.399 That's what to your point about the Packers, the language 245 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:59.639 in their proposal was pretty much singling out one team 246 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.759 for doing something very well. That was the problem the 247 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:04.759 committee had with it at least half of the committee 248 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.360 that voted, you know, to not try to ban this, 249 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.159 and then they tabled it when they revisited what Goodell 250 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.919 said yesterday. And this gets back to the era in 251 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:14.720 which you played. I think it was two thousand and 252 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:18.840 four or five, where they changed the rule to where 253 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.720 they're allowing now a little bit of push and pull 254 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:25.399 downfield amongst you know, there's a pile or there's a runner, 255 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:27.600 you can do that. It used to be minunderstanding, at 256 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.320 least looking at the rules that was prohibited. So I 257 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:31.879 think they're going to go back to this, and they're 258 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.759 going to lean on precedent from the early two thousands 259 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.440 and instead of saying, well, the toush pushes banned because 260 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.279 we hate the Eagles, No, they're just going to blatantly 261 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.279 say no more pushing or pulling any ball carriers. But 262 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.240 you know what, here's the thing, lou, the Eagles are 263 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.519 still going to find a way to get three or 264 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:51.600 four yards on quarterback sneaks because of several factors. And 265 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.759 you know this well. Number one, the personnel they have upfront. 266 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:59.240 Number two, the incredible strength of Jalen Hurt's lower body. 267 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.240 And then number three, a man named Jess Stoutlin. You know, 268 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:03.399 that's that's all they need to do. 269 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:08.679 Yep, gonna be interesting to see what happens. 270 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.600 So you're not surprising, you're you're a proponent of keeping 271 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.600 the push play, You're you're all for it. 272 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.440 I am absolutely, I absolutely am. I think is I 273 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:19.960 think they're being just in general? 274 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.799 Yeah, what's interesting? What do you think about the expanded schedule? 275 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.480 Like you were a player, You've been through this and 276 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.159 this is a time in a space where you know, 277 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.759 you look at players safety and there's all that conversation 278 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.879 about that, and you have had conversations about concussions and 279 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.320 you know, head injuries and all of that, and you 280 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.279 were very fortunate in your career to have a lot 281 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.759 of success and make it out without a lot of 282 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.799 that in your inventory. But I will say this, the 283 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.559 league is trying to push this thing to twenty games 284 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.759 at some point. You know they are eighteen is next? 285 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:51.639 What you thought? 286 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.960 Oh my god, I'm going to cut you off and 287 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.919 go back. For the reasons they want to ban the just 288 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:02.759 push why on? Why? Because of what? Because of what? 289 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:04.159 Job? Player safety? 290 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.120 Because the players safety job. They want to ban it 291 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:12.320 because of player safety. But they want twenty games. They 292 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:17.320 want they want Thursday night games, they want Monday Winnesday. 293 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.279 International to Brazil, Go to Brazil. 294 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:25.039 They want all this stuff. But we're but but we're 295 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:30.440 talking about player safety. It's hogwash, man, it's hog washed. 296 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.080 I get it. It's hog washed. I wish Cadell would say, look, 297 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:38.080 stop to play, or say fine, we won't we can't 298 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:42.799 allow pushing on offense or pushing on defense. Fine, if 299 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.519 that's what you're if you're going to change the rules 300 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.320 and say you're not going to allow pushing the nuts, fine, 301 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.879 but right now as well within the rules, I mean, 302 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.320 just be honest with yourself. Just be honest is what 303 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.480 I want them to do. I want them to be 304 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.799 honest because they're not being honest at all. Yes, uh, let. 305 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:04.080 No, they're not. 306 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:10.039 And you know it's it's I almost I don't respect 307 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.480 McVeigh for what he said, but I almost see his 308 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.960 point that he's not hiding behind player safety. Somebody will 309 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:19.480 just come out and say, look, nobody else can stop it. 310 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.399 There's one team doing exceptionally well. No one else can 311 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.120 stop it. And that's why we want to gone at 312 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:27.639 least be honest, because that's exactly what that's when they 313 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:28.000 want to. 314 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.519 Go on, that's what I want, dude. I love hearing 315 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.559 those other coaches say the Eagles do it well and 316 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.960 you guys are mad about it. I love hearing some 317 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.600 of those coaches say that. I absolutely love hearing the 318 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:46.879 Lions well, not coaches, GMS and stuff like that. Like, 319 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.879 I love hearing those guys say that stuff because it's 320 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:50.360 the truth. 321 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.000 Yeah, Luther Broughton joins us, Look, I want to have 322 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.679 a real discussion about contract distribution and contract management, Okay, 323 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.360 because they have paid and I heard Todd Frantz and 324 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.159 the guys from Athletes First have a podcast talking about, 325 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:09.320 in not so many words, how they fleeced Jerry with 326 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:13.440 the de contract. So you've got that tying up that cap. 327 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.440 That cap number is enormous. You've got the Ceede Lamb deal. 328 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.679 The Ceedee Lamb deal is fair. But to me, the 329 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.120 guy that makes the most impact. If I'm thinking I'm 330 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.080 an opposing head coach, I've got to account for Micah 331 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.440 Parsons more than anybody on that other team if I'm 332 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.840 playing Dallas, because he just REX games and he's sitting 333 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.080 out there trying to battle in the media, and he 334 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.159 has to speak up because the owner at the owner's 335 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.799 meetings pretty much said, I don't know who his agent is, dude. 336 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.600 His agent is David Milgedda. He's one of the most 337 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.000 prominent guys in the league. What is Jerry doing and 338 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:47.919 what does he is? 339 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:48.120 It? 340 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.759 Is it time for Uncle Jerry to step back? And 341 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:52.840 let you know, cousin Steven take up. 342 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.519 It was time for Uncle Jerry to step back a 343 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.679 while ago. Crazy, but you know what, it's Jerry's thing 344 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:02.440 and he can do what he wants to do it. 345 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.880 He said that time and time again, and he's right. 346 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:07.599 Yeah it is, He's right. But guess what. Guess what, 347 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.200 bro I love it. 348 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:11.039 I enjoy it as an Eagles guy. 349 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.519 Yet as an Eagles fan, it's incredible watching Jerry mess 350 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.079 up right. 351 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:20.480 Right, Well, he waits too late for everything. He doesn't 352 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.400 he's over loyal. He doesn't like paining coaches that aren't 353 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.000 on his current sideline. This is why he keeps guys 354 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.480 until the bitter end. And with these contracts, it's like 355 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.680 there's an old adage, man, you know, Pat Kerwin has 356 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.319 talked about this other front office guys like the longer 357 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.880 you wait, the more expensive it gets and he waits to. 358 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:41.920 The last minute. 359 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.640 Don bro It's so dumb, it really is. And on 360 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.000 the opposite end of the spectrum are the Eagles. They 361 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:54.519 don't they get guys done. They get guys done. They 362 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.920 you know, they make mistakes every now and then, paying 363 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.519 people too early or whatever, every now and then, not 364 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.519 very often. I'd rather make mistakes paying a guy too 365 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:10.079 early than waiting, waiting, waiting, and see, boy, I wonder 366 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.039 if this guy is going to give me a discount something. 367 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:16.880 What are you? Nobody's given the Dallas cot. 368 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:21.200 Well, have you ever in your in your time you 369 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.119 were in the league for a few years when you 370 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.640 were a free agent, ever did you did you ever 371 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:26.640 visit Dallas? 372 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:28.200 Did you ever have any negotiations? 373 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:33.119 No, dude, listen to me. You and I know who 374 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.359 I am. I don't have much of an ego and 375 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.240 one of that many teams interested in the medal free agency. 376 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:41.200 But look you. 377 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.319 You look don don don mcdad's rookie year, Andy Reid, 378 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.680 you led the team and touchdown set. 379 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.240 There And let me tell you that was one of 380 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:54.880 one of the best meetings I had with the coach 381 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:58.279 about my abilities. Andy brought me in I'm a small 382 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:01.119 I was a smart like nowadays might not be a 383 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.960 small tight end. I'm a little. 384 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.640 Shorter talking about and he brought me in and he said, 385 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.000 he was like, look, I don't know how your confidence 386 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:12.640 it is because I know. 387 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:17.680 I know what your deficiency is in football. You're not 388 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.319 a very good blocker in line block. But there are 389 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.960 a lot of things that you can do and you 390 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.880 do well. And he said, I don't know that many 391 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.160 tight ends in the league who are versatile and run 392 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:33.039 like you. So what we're going to do is take 393 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.400 advantage of the things you do well. He said, I'm 394 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.720 not going to part on what you don't do well, 395 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.240 but we're going to get you better. But I only 396 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:50.039 come who's not yelling at me because I can't block 397 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:51.799 Reggie White. 398 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:53.519 Well who did that. 399 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.680 Exactly. And I'm being extreme, But you're not just yelling 400 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:04.359 at because I'm not because I'm not Kyle Brady, who's 401 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.079