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Speaker 1: the privilege of talking to a listener today who reached out.
Speaker 1: His name is Brent Joins Easy Musician. But he's going
Speaker 1: to be sharing a interesting thing that happened on a
Speaker 1: camping trip and I'm going to leave it at there
Speaker 1: and let Brent fill in all the details for us.
Speaker 1: But how's it going today, Brent?
Speaker 2: Good? Trying to stay warm out here in Oklahoma City,
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you let me be on the show.
Speaker 2: Share my story.
Speaker 3: I have one main encounter and then have some like
Speaker 3: some things really unusual things that like happened throughout my life,
Speaker 3: just things that I couldn't really explain. But I'd like
Speaker 3: to first start off by saying that I've always kind
Speaker 3: of had like an interest in like Bigfoot and just
Speaker 3: things that were really unusual when I was like really young,
Speaker 3: Like I was always really kind of drawn to like
Speaker 3: you know, books that were like anything it was, you know, Bigfoot, Ufo,
Speaker 3: you know, Lutinus Monster, Like it was just it was
Speaker 3: really cool to me, Like those like Choose your Own
Speaker 3: Adventure books were just like always just they were just
Speaker 3: so cool to me, Like I just I would just
Speaker 3: I was just really like enamored by that stuff and
Speaker 3: it kind of stuck.
Speaker 2: In my mind.
Speaker 3: Like but I never thought like anything could be like
Speaker 3: you know, could really like we could really experience anything
Speaker 3: like unusual that like that I really can't explain today,
Speaker 3: but I had we used to have when I was
Speaker 3: really young, Like in like elementary school, I lived like
Speaker 3: basically like our school was like pretty much like like
Speaker 3: a like the field that was behind the school was
Speaker 3: like my house was like basically up against that and
Speaker 3: We had this like this huge like feel that was
Speaker 3: called like the ditch, and it was like just this
Speaker 3: big like sewage like basically basically they took like the
Speaker 3: it was just like this open like waterway for all
Speaker 3: like the sewage from like the neighborhood like to just
Speaker 3: drain out and it would make this this huge hill
Speaker 3: and we would just play there, you know, like just
Speaker 3: every day and it was just like super fun. We
Speaker 3: just we just we thought we were like playing like
Speaker 3: Dungeons and Dragons, but we didn't know.
Speaker 2: We just knew it was like a popular game. We
Speaker 2: didn't know what we were doing, like we were just
Speaker 2: you know, we just play out there. But anyway, one
Speaker 2: day like towards like it was really so.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things about this like that was
Speaker 3: really unusual to me and really like it still makes
Speaker 3: me to this day. I'm still like, I just it
Speaker 3: was really just so weird and so like. But basically
Speaker 3: we found footprints, like big, huge footprints. I don't know
Speaker 3: what size they were, but they were like like footprints
Speaker 3: all the way like on the back of it was
Speaker 3: on the back it was literally like there was like
Speaker 3: a a little like a just a little spot of footprints,
Speaker 3: but one big, like defined footprint, like huge, and we
Speaker 3: just thought that it was so odd because and it
Speaker 3: was facing like directly to the back of the house
Speaker 3: of where there was a house, like someone was like
Speaker 3: maybe like looking over a fence or something. But what
Speaker 3: was so weird about it was that the the muddy
Speaker 3: they just kind of built that other side. My house
Speaker 3: was like on the opposite side, but like where that
Speaker 3: house was built, that whole area was like still getting
Speaker 3: build And this is like in terms of time frame,
Speaker 3: this was probably I mean I was like probably like
Speaker 3: nine or ten, so it was like it was really
Speaker 3: there was not much like development back there, like there was,
Speaker 3: but it was I mean, it was really open. But anyway,
Speaker 3: what was so odd about this footprint though, it was
Speaker 3: and we actually thought that it was like like bigfoot,
Speaker 3: Like we're like this, this.
Speaker 2: Got to be bigfoot.
Speaker 3: But then we didn't do anything. We didn't know, we
Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. We were just like, this
Speaker 3: is just really cool. But what was so weird is
Speaker 3: that that area where it was at was so the
Speaker 3: time of year it was cold, but it was muddy
Speaker 3: and like rainy, and the mud had like there was
Speaker 3: just no telling what like we we would never go
Speaker 3: out there like walk barefoot, like you just would not
Speaker 3: do that. Like it was there's so many things that
Speaker 3: could like we would have stepped on like.
Speaker 2: We were just we just knew better, like you just
Speaker 2: didn't do that.
Speaker 3: But there was like pieces of chunks of like cement
Speaker 3: and like broken glass and like just things that like
Speaker 3: it looked just look like you know, like construction crews
Speaker 3: just kind of like the aftermath. They just left it there,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, it was just it was just
Speaker 3: very strange. And what was really odd though, is that
Speaker 3: I mean there's not a lot of like foliage around
Speaker 3: from like because the whole back half of that was
Speaker 3: basically like an open like farm like field, like just
Speaker 3: just crops and stuff that would just they would grow.
Speaker 3: And at that time it was completely empty, like it
Speaker 3: was there was nothing out there. But yeah, we just
Speaker 3: stumbled upon that and it was just really odd, and
Speaker 3: I just I've always thought about it.
Speaker 2: I went, I went on the.
Speaker 3: DFRO website like years later, and I just was really
Speaker 3: curious to see if anybody has had any because it's
Speaker 3: so it's in Corpus Christie, like call Allen kind of
Speaker 3: like this is like way down like.
Speaker 2: In Texas, where I should have mentioned that first.
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's just not I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: just it seems like it would just be too like
Speaker 3: have like there's just you know, too many people around,
Speaker 3: and like where would it there's nothing to really cover.
Speaker 2: It, you know. But anyway I read I just went
Speaker 2: on the site and.
Speaker 3: Just just read that there's people had actually had like
Speaker 3: some encounters or not like her. I think there was
Speaker 3: like a lady had saw something like by her her
Speaker 3: trash cans, and like an area that was very like
Speaker 3: kind of similar to where we were at, Like it
Speaker 3: was very open and like there's just no trees or nothing,
Speaker 3: and you know you hear about you know them being
Speaker 3: in like areas like Arizona where there's not a lot
Speaker 3: of like coverage there either.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but anyway, that was something something
Speaker 2: I've always thought about. It's just it's it was something
Speaker 2: so weird to us.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could have been you know, a grown
Speaker 3: adults foot, but it was definitely it was just so odd.
Speaker 3: The time, it seemed pretty fresh, so like it was
Speaker 3: like it happened kind of recently, and it just didn't
Speaker 3: there was nothing else out there, Like there was no
Speaker 3: other like trash or nothing, or to breath. It didn't
Speaker 3: look like no one was like throwing anything else out
Speaker 3: there like, so I don't know, it was just very.
Speaker 2: Unusual. And so anyway, moving forward, so I became a skateboarder.
Speaker 2: I got into like skateboarding. It was just like an
Speaker 2: interest in mine and I through my.
Speaker 3: Adult like early adult years, I would just kind of
Speaker 3: start to get in trouble and I ended up having
Speaker 3: to like join the military.
Speaker 2: And I never had anything.
Speaker 3: Happen while I was there, but when I drove out
Speaker 3: to my unit, that was definitely I don't know, it
Speaker 3: was just this very surreal experience. It's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: that I just I just that I never had anything
Speaker 3: experienced out there. But but yeah, I spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time in the woods, and I felt like I
Speaker 3: was very in tune with what was going on around me.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3: That that was that was very odd, But I felt
Speaker 3: like that kind of like prepared me for like wanting
Speaker 3: to be out in the just spend more time out
Speaker 3: Like I just I really kind of we would spend
Speaker 3: so much time training and the feeld, like it made
Speaker 3: me want to like be out, like just spend as
Speaker 3: much time as I could out in the woods.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I ended up I'm in the service.
Speaker 2: I get out. I ended up.
Speaker 3: Deciding to get out. I was I had to get
Speaker 3: out for basically medical reasons. And I ended up getting
Speaker 3: a job in the skateboard industry as a sales rep.
Speaker 2: And I was doing really good for myself, and.
Speaker 3: I was making I was making really good money, and
Speaker 3: I was just moving up really fast. And then basically
Speaker 3: the economy and just like hit all at once, like
Speaker 3: it just completely crashed. And at the same time, a
Speaker 3: lot of like just really horrible things were happening in
Speaker 3: my life. Like I mean, it was just a friend
Speaker 3: of mine is you know, he got hit by a
Speaker 3: where he was in a motorcycle accident and died. My
Speaker 3: aunt uncle died of cancer. This this guy that I
Speaker 3: had known known from church years ago, like apparently had
Speaker 3: been getting into like really bad drugs and did some
Speaker 3: really like seriously horrible.
Speaker 2: Stuff and ended up going to prison.
Speaker 3: And it was just really shocking all this stuff was
Speaker 3: happening and I'm losing my business. Everything was kind of
Speaker 3: like coming to like a very just a very like
Speaker 3: intense point in my life, and I was it was
Speaker 3: really getting tough to deal with and I ended up
Speaker 3: getting let go from my job, and it was just
Speaker 3: it was just a very intense tough time for me.
Speaker 3: And I decided, like I just I ended up. I
Speaker 3: had like a severance, a big severance from the company,
Speaker 3: and I decided, hey, I'm just I'm just gonna get
Speaker 3: in my car and drive up the Yellowstone.
Speaker 2: And this is around.
Speaker 3: This is what it isn't twenty eleven is when I
Speaker 3: when I grow up there and I'm done other trips
Speaker 3: I've made other trips, like I take like photographs and
Speaker 3: I try to like I have all these ideas of
Speaker 3: like making like like.
Speaker 2: Like these short movies or stuff.
Speaker 3: Just it's just I don't know, just things that I
Speaker 3: just like to do, aside from making music and claudas. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I decide I'm just gonna get I I know that
Speaker 3: things are really going to be bad, like I'm basically
Speaker 3: on the verge of losing my home and everything. Because
Speaker 3: there was no way to really kind of make up.
Speaker 3: I mean, they called me. It was really kind of
Speaker 3: it was just really it was just I was losing
Speaker 3: shops like left and right, Like I would lose like
Speaker 3: twelve shops in a year, and they were expecting us
Speaker 3: to like it, maintain and still like make profits with
Speaker 3: our stores.
Speaker 2: And there was just no way I could have done that.
Speaker 3: So I just got my car. I just decided to
Speaker 3: take you know, live on whatever severance I had, and
Speaker 3: just get in my car and drive and you know,
Speaker 3: take photos and document it. I and you know, I
Speaker 3: just thought, you know, maybe I'll experience something, maybe something
Speaker 3: will happen. You know, I don't know, I just did.
Speaker 3: I really didn't know what to expect. I thought I
Speaker 3: felt like if I really just got in my car
Speaker 3: and just drove, you know, I just could live off
Speaker 3: like whatever like negative feelings I was feeling, I could
Speaker 3: just kind of just get past.
Speaker 2: It because I was in a really bad like mentally.
Speaker 3: I was in a very kind of like suicidal like
Speaker 3: kind of mind you know, mindset, you know, just because
Speaker 3: it was so intense dealing with all that. And anyway
Speaker 3: I make my way up to like New Mexico, nothing
Speaker 3: really happens. I'm not really I'm just like, ah, like
Speaker 3: I just kind of had a weird felt like a
Speaker 3: weird vibe like I would just I just kind of
Speaker 3: would go places and then just just feel like I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna keep driving, you know, I just want to
Speaker 3: get to get the Yellowstone or whatever. And I did
Speaker 3: stop in Durango, which is like Andrews It's actually Andrew's
Speaker 3: Lake Trail, and that was there was kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Nothing. I didn't see anything, but I had like I
Speaker 2: literally got like a mile down the trail and I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think I should go any further,
Speaker 3: Like I just got a weird feeling. But like right
Speaker 3: when I pulled up, I saw somebody coming down from
Speaker 3: the trail and they just looked kind of they just
Speaker 3: looked really like like they were just really booking it
Speaker 3: and kind of scared and nervous. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, it could be anything. Maybe they could be
Speaker 3: nervous about me. You know, I don't know, like I
Speaker 3: just you know, I didn't really know what to think
Speaker 3: of it. But anyway, I get into I basically decided
Speaker 3: to turn around and I just had this very like
Speaker 3: just just.
Speaker 2: I don't know, weird feeling again. And anyway, so I
Speaker 2: didn't book anything.
Speaker 3: Throughout this whole trip, like I basically just like I
Speaker 3: didn't like make any reservations or anything like I just
Speaker 3: I just would try to get a hotel wherever I could,
Speaker 3: like it just didn't I would end up having to
Speaker 3: pay like stupid money for it, which is but I
Speaker 3: was just like I didn't know what to do. I
Speaker 3: was just like I just want to try to see
Speaker 3: if I can get up there, and then I don't know,
Speaker 3: see what happens, you know, I don't know, like I
Speaker 3: you know, so I end up I leave Colorado and
Speaker 3: I started making my way up to Yellowstone and I
Speaker 3: just started getting closer, and I mean, the place is just.
Speaker 2: I was just like, wow, this place is just so beautiful.
Speaker 3: And so I finally arrive and I get there and
Speaker 3: the park rangers are just checking people like crazy, like
Speaker 3: they're I mean, it was like this was July of
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and I was like it was basically it
Speaker 3: was not the Headquarters Lodge cabin a Flags ranch, but
Speaker 3: it was like the it was like the station that
Speaker 3: was before that that I that I first got to,
Speaker 3: and they were just checking people like crazy. I was
Speaker 3: just like it made me, it really made me like
Speaker 3: it went. I went from being like, oh, I'm relaxed
Speaker 3: and now I'm like living all this stuff of this
Speaker 3: off to being like kind of like really in it,
Speaker 3: like oh wow, like this is this is really serious.
Speaker 3: I need to be kind of on on an alert.
Speaker 2: And I found out later on that a.
Speaker 3: Couple a couple was walking They're only like a mile
Speaker 3: or two down like one of these trails, like kind
Speaker 3: of mirror it was I was. It was about like
Speaker 3: I guess, like I guess, like three or four miles
Speaker 3: like up before or like north of where I was at.
Speaker 3: But basically there was a couple, an elderly couple, and
Speaker 3: they were just walking on the trail, and I guess
Speaker 3: there was a mother grizzly and her cubs, and it
Speaker 3: killed the man and then the woman she like crawled
Speaker 3: up in a ball apparently, and it just picked up
Speaker 3: the backpack I guess and dropped her.
Speaker 2: Is what I read.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, I didn't really know why they were doing.
Speaker 3: I just I was like, all right, well, check my
Speaker 3: car and then let me go. So I make my
Speaker 3: way up north to the headquarters lodge. I'm like all right,
Speaker 3: I made it.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: Let's I want to I'm just gonna stay here for
Speaker 3: the night. This place is beautiful, like like I'm good, and.
Speaker 2: I uh so I go I go to get I
Speaker 2: go get some food and I.
Speaker 3: Get like a six pack of this Moose roll beer
Speaker 3: and I go back to my I got I rent
Speaker 3: like a camping area and they put me like basically
Speaker 3: like on the far corner and like I'm right next
Speaker 3: to the road, like literally like you could I could
Speaker 3: even during the day. I could literally even see through
Speaker 3: the trees. You could see the road from where I
Speaker 3: was at. And so I said, on my camp, just
Speaker 3: try to get you know, just this it's about to
Speaker 3: get dark. And I try to set that up. I
Speaker 3: get my camp or my tent, you know, set up where, and.
Speaker 2: There's people there. There's people around me, There's there's people
Speaker 2: next to me.
Speaker 3: I would say, it seemed like they're kind of like
Speaker 3: it probably about like sixty percent capacity or something. I mean,
Speaker 3: it seemed like they had there's a decent amount of
Speaker 3: people there for sure. But anyway, I so I finished
Speaker 3: doing that and I was like, I want to I
Speaker 3: want to get some more photos and just kind of
Speaker 3: just like look around a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And I thought maybe I could go back.
Speaker 3: To that the first Ranger station and get like a
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe just get some information or just
Speaker 3: just I don't know, just see what else I could find,
Speaker 3: you know, just before I just go back and try
Speaker 3: to like relax and go to sleep whatever. And I
Speaker 3: saw him driving back and there's like a moose in
Speaker 3: the road. It's like not a it's it looked like
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know what you would say, like
Speaker 3: i'd say maybe like a juvenile to like it wasn't
Speaker 3: like really small, but it was not. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: a baby though, either, but it was just in the
Speaker 3: road and just looking like scared, like just looking terrified.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 3: I don't want to mess with you, but I'm just
Speaker 3: like I'm just I'm just stopped. I have my head lights,
Speaker 3: I'm just.
Speaker 2: Looking at it and just just just sit there and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this thing is not going to move.
Speaker 2: And I was probably there for like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe ten minutes, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: all right, this is I'm kind of bored now. And
Speaker 3: I'm not it's not moving and I can't go around it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to, Like, I just didn't want to
Speaker 3: mess with it. So I'm like, so I started to
Speaker 3: turn around, I start backing up, and I start to
Speaker 3: kind of maneuver, so I'm gonna I can lead, and it.
Speaker 2: Darts over to towards the water.
Speaker 3: There's like a lake right there, and it darts like
Speaker 3: like right over there and like starts hiding like and
Speaker 3: like behind these bushes, and I'm like like, okay, I'm like, sorry, dude,
Speaker 3: I hope I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2: So I make my way back to my to my
Speaker 2: my camp. So I'm just there. I'm drinking my beer.
Speaker 3: I think I had like probably like three or four
Speaker 3: of them, and they had and this is really stupid.
Speaker 3: I will admit this is not was not smart to me.
Speaker 3: I was also kind of in a really bad state
Speaker 3: of mind. I mean I was kind of I was
Speaker 3: really kind of sad of suicidal. I mean there was
Speaker 3: a part of me that felt that, like, and so
Speaker 3: I think that subconsciously I was like, I didn't care
Speaker 3: to leave out the beer cans, but I left them out.
Speaker 3: I left them just sitting out and they had like
Speaker 3: these They had like these I don't know, these little
Speaker 3: contained metal containers where you put your trash and I
Speaker 3: didn't do that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so.
Speaker 3: I drink my beer, I have a fire going, and
Speaker 3: the people next to me, directly next to.
Speaker 2: Me or like, they're pretty loud.
Speaker 3: They're being like they're just they're actually being really like
Speaker 3: obnaxiously loud like and just it was kind of annoying.
Speaker 2: It was kind of starting to like bother me.
Speaker 3: I was getting kind of like, all right, this kind
Speaker 3: of sucks because it was going on like they didn't
Speaker 3: they wouldn't stop, and I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe I should say something, but I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say nothing. But I get out of
Speaker 3: my tent. I don't know if I I don't know
Speaker 3: if I had to take a piss or what. But
Speaker 3: I get out of my tent and it's just I
Speaker 3: mean it's black.
Speaker 2: I mean it's pitch black. You cannot see anything. I
Speaker 2: took it. I take one photo. I just take one photo.
Speaker 3: Like directly above the sky because I was like I
Speaker 3: have to document this because it's just so dark. Something
Speaker 3: is just eerily dark. And we had when I was
Speaker 3: in the military. We caught like zero illumination. We because
Speaker 3: when we were using our night vision goggles, you know,
Speaker 3: that was just like it was just you couldn't even see.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like they're useless when you have
Speaker 3: when it was that dark out.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, wow, this is this is freaky.
Speaker 3: So I get back in my tent and so I
Speaker 3: notice I noticed that all of a sudden, like the
Speaker 3: people that were next to me, they're better next to me.
Speaker 2: They just go quiet.
Speaker 3: They just go like abruptly quiet, Like they went from
Speaker 3: like loud, like being kind of obnoxious to like completely
Speaker 3: just absolutely dead silent, like dead silent. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: like that's kind of weird. And like I don't know
Speaker 3: if maybe like ten to fifteen minutes later, I just
Speaker 3: hear like these huge footsteps like walking towards me from
Speaker 3: like directly from the road, like like it's coming, like
Speaker 3: something is walking like directly. It was just like right
Speaker 3: across the road, like right at me. And it was
Speaker 3: just like the details now, like all the details of
Speaker 3: like that moment, like what happened, I will say, they're
Speaker 3: kind of a little fuzzy.
Speaker 2: At this point. I mean it's been a long time,
Speaker 2: and it was very traumatic. I mean I was. I meant,
Speaker 2: I immediately I know that.
Speaker 3: I immediately thought to myself, is this really happening?
Speaker 2: Like I was just is this I was like, is
Speaker 2: this really happening?
Speaker 3: Like I just kept saying that to myself, like is
Speaker 3: this Like, no way, this is not really happening. I
Speaker 3: just kept saying that to myself over like there's no way,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, this is really happening. And i just
Speaker 3: grab my mace, my bear mace, and I literally I
Speaker 3: put it up.
Speaker 2: I lay down on.
Speaker 3: My right side. I just lay down as flat as possible,
Speaker 3: and I put the bear mace. I'm holding the bear
Speaker 3: mace in both of my hands and I put it
Speaker 3: up to the temple on my forehead, and I have
Speaker 3: the pan or whatever. I'm just trying to get ready
Speaker 3: to like spray whatever. And that's all the protection I had.
Speaker 3: I had nothing else. I had no weapons, nothing like,
Speaker 3: there was nothing if whatever. It was like I could
Speaker 3: not have defended myself. But it just in like.
Speaker 2: Very It was.
Speaker 3: When people say I've heard I've listened to people say
Speaker 3: that when they have like I mean, when they try
Speaker 3: to be undetected, like that's that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: At first, I thought it was maybe someone pissed off
Speaker 3: at me because I left the beer cans out and
Speaker 3: they were like or they were checking, like walking around
Speaker 3: and make sure like I was doing the right thing,
Speaker 3: and I was, because I was like I was worried
Speaker 3: about that, like too, I was like, well, great now
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in trouble for this. Nothing was disturbed
Speaker 3: like it did not it did whatever it was it.
Speaker 3: I do remember it leaning over and like just kind
Speaker 3: of being there and I literally laid there in like
Speaker 3: a like like I felt like I was literally paralyzed
Speaker 3: with like I mean, I was literally paralyzed with fears
Speaker 3: and I laid there for three straight hours, like I
Speaker 3: literally I couldn't do anything. I think I don't even
Speaker 3: know if I had my eyes open, and I think
Speaker 3: maybe I haven't closed I felt like if I did.
Speaker 3: And at first when I first started hearing it, like
Speaker 3: I people that I have told this story too, like
Speaker 3: you know, why don't you look at it or why
Speaker 3: didn't you see it? And how like first of all, it
Speaker 3: was so dark out like I don't know what I
Speaker 3: would have been able to see. But then I also
Speaker 3: felt like if I did try to look, because the tent,
Speaker 3: the way my tint was is like it was really
Speaker 3: kind of open. Like all I had to do was
Speaker 3: just kind of like take a flap and just kind
Speaker 3: of push it up a little bit, and I could
Speaker 3: have just like looked and seen or tried to see something,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, maybe like a foot or something.
Speaker 3: But I just felt like what with whatever whatever it
Speaker 3: could have been, I couldn't It was not it didn't
Speaker 3: feel like it was smart to react or do anything,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Kind of felt like I did.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I had a telepathic experience. I
Speaker 3: know people have talked about you know, people have talked
Speaker 3: about that before. I will say my dad, My dad
Speaker 3: was a Vietnam veteran. He was actually he had a
Speaker 3: near death experience where he was like blown up in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: With what he told me, like it kind of felt
Speaker 3: like my whole that whole experience with like this, like
Speaker 3: with whatever came up to my tent or like I
Speaker 3: felt like it was it was like something like switched
Speaker 3: inside of me, Like when that happened, like it was
Speaker 3: it's like I went from like being.
Speaker 2: Like it was like it tried to tell me, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like keep living or something. It
Speaker 2: was weird. It was it's like it scared me into
Speaker 2: like this survival mode and it just splited. It turned
Speaker 2: something on inside of me. And I thought about my
Speaker 2: dad and.
Speaker 3: That experience that he had, and I don't know, I
Speaker 3: didn't think I was gonna get kind of emotional about this.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, it just it really it flipped something
Speaker 2: on me. It was like I.
Speaker 3: Literally felt like whatever it was was standing over me
Speaker 3: was like telling me, like like warning me and like
Speaker 3: telling me.
Speaker 2: Like just I don't know, like it was trying to
Speaker 2: tell me to live or something.
Speaker 3: It was really it's like it was like saying It's
Speaker 3: like it was saying I could crush you right now.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna like that's I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: just it's.
Speaker 3: Really odd and it had like such an amazing experience,
Speaker 3: its profound experience on me and later on during so
Speaker 3: and I don't I really believe.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I know, even though I did not see it and
Speaker 3: I only heard it and I heard it walking in
Speaker 3: to my area, I really believe that I don't believe
Speaker 3: that it was like a moose. And I don't believe
Speaker 3: that it was a barre. And that's the only thing
Speaker 3: that I think that could have been. And I don't
Speaker 3: think it was a human being because if it was
Speaker 3: a human being, I think that they would have probably
Speaker 3: said something to me, and I think I probably would
Speaker 3: have gotten in trouble for I mean, somebody would have
Speaker 3: said something or been like, hey, it's not smart for
Speaker 3: you to leave this out here, you know, like you
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta like you gotta pick this up, you know,
Speaker 3: like and I feel I think to myself, like, you know,
Speaker 3: if it was a bear, which I mean, it could
Speaker 3: have been a bear, but I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that it was.
Speaker 3: I never heard anything but two feet the whole entire time,
Speaker 3: Like I never heard like mobile feet. I didn't hear
Speaker 3: any kind of like swaying or anything like that. It
Speaker 3: was just very I don't know how to It just
Speaker 3: sounded very.
Speaker 2: Deep, like very the footsteps.
Speaker 3: It was like it was like soft but just deep,
Speaker 3: like a just heavy like just it sounded huge. It
Speaker 3: did not sound I mean, I thought human, because it's
Speaker 3: I can only hear two feet the whole entire time.
Speaker 3: That's all I heard. That the whole time. I have
Speaker 3: no idea how long it hung out there for I have,
Speaker 3: but all I know is I did.
Speaker 2: I was. I was in a like I was in
Speaker 2: a state where I could not.
Speaker 3: Move for three hours, like I could not do any
Speaker 3: I couldn't do anything at all. I couldn't move, I
Speaker 3: couldn't run. My car was literally like next to me.
Speaker 3: I could have like it was not very far from
Speaker 3: me to get into my car, maybe not even.
Speaker 2: Like like maybe ten feet if that.
Speaker 3: And I mean, and I just I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was just very it was very life changing. It
Speaker 3: was very powerful.
Speaker 2: I mean it might not sound like people listening to
Speaker 2: this like you know, you know, as intense, like a
Speaker 2: stare down, you know, but like it just it felt
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: It was very, very incredibly powerful. And I and I
Speaker 3: I just I really didn't. I mean, I couldn't even
Speaker 3: believe that it just was happening. I mean, it just
Speaker 3: it was just so it was. I did not I thought,
Speaker 3: even with my interest, you know what I mean, being
Speaker 3: interested in stuff like that, I did, I thought that
Speaker 3: it would in my mind, I was thinking, like I
Speaker 3: thought it would be a little more different. I thought
Speaker 3: my I thought my experience would be a little bit
Speaker 3: more just more like face to face. I figured I
Speaker 3: would have some kind of like a face to face
Speaker 3: and I didn't, unfortunately, And I drove.
Speaker 2: I even drove around the park. I stayed in the
Speaker 2: park for about four days and just travel around. I
Speaker 2: hiked everywhere. I saw a lot of like wildlife. They
Speaker 2: have like these boards.
Speaker 3: That were that would document if someone saw whatever, and
Speaker 3: it was all kinds, I mean everything, you name it.
Speaker 3: Another place that I camped at. When I was there,
Speaker 3: I actually was right next to grizzly like literally like
Speaker 3: within feet of one. And at the Grand Village campground,
Speaker 3: they basically told us like when we got there, like
Speaker 3: they had signs like, hey, you know we have grizzly
Speaker 3: here too. You know you gotta be careful but like
Speaker 3: this thing. So so I ended up camping there anyway,
Speaker 3: which nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Big for a society who would be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages.
Speaker 3: And in fact, this bear was like really like I
Speaker 3: don't know, it was just a very huge grizzly bear
Speaker 3: and it would like walk through the camp like area
Speaker 3: and I just wouldn't mess with anybody.
Speaker 2: But one day or I guess it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the day that I
Speaker 3: got my that I rented a spot there, or if
Speaker 3: it was the day after, but I definitely like I
Speaker 3: definitely saw it, like it walked right past me and
Speaker 3: it was just super chill.
Speaker 2: It didn't even care.
Speaker 3: But I mean I could hear it moving like it
Speaker 3: would not like I mean, they kind of snort and
Speaker 3: stuff and they're just they're just kind of like clumsy,
Speaker 3: and this thing was coming into my tent. Like the
Speaker 3: thing that walked into my area was very it was trying.
Speaker 3: It felt like it was trying to be undetected, which
Speaker 3: is just like I mean, who does that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, who who tries to do to do that?
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just went on with my trip and
Speaker 3: I I just continued on and I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I really hope I see something.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would drive around at.
Speaker 3: Night, I would drive like I I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I thought maybe for sure. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna have like I think I could probably
Speaker 3: have another like encounter if that something like that happened
Speaker 3: to me, like just right that soon. You know, I
Speaker 3: just think that you know, it could possibly happen again.
Speaker 3: Oh also I wanted to say, is that and the
Speaker 3: reason what I think I this is what I think
Speaker 3: and what what this is what I believe what happened.
Speaker 3: I do believe whatever it was, I believe that it
Speaker 3: was a bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I really, I really, that's just what I believe. I mean,
Speaker 2: I I that's just what I think and believe in
Speaker 2: my heart. I mean, it just there's just nothing else
Speaker 2: that it could have been.
Speaker 3: And I think what happened was that I was potentially
Speaker 3: disturbing it from getting its food. And that's that's the
Speaker 3: reason why I think that it like approached me. I
Speaker 3: think it was kind of like coming up like hey,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I could crush you like an insect right now,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna let you live. And it was just
Speaker 3: it was crazy. I mean, I came back, it was
Speaker 3: very My life was very rough. When I came back.
Speaker 2: It was still I had a lot of stuff I
Speaker 2: had to face.
Speaker 3: You know, I fill for these people in California because
Speaker 3: that's basically what I lost everything I ended up. When
Speaker 3: I got home, it was tough. There was no way
Speaker 3: to really go back to doing what I was doing,
Speaker 3: and I had to basically just completely change course. My
Speaker 3: life dramatically changed after that, and I had to be
Speaker 3: strong to get through all that because I mean, it
Speaker 3: was just so it was very heartbreaking. I mean, I
Speaker 3: had it was my I had built my I had
Speaker 3: built my first home by myself.
Speaker 2: And well, I mean I didn't build it my but
Speaker 2: you know, I.
Speaker 3: Had my first home built, and I was just you know,
Speaker 3: my ex of seventeen years. I mean, everything was it
Speaker 3: was just everything was gone, you know, it was just
Speaker 3: everything was falling apart in my life and I had
Speaker 3: to really pick it all up. And just having that experience.
Speaker 3: Had I not have that, it would have I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I probably even be here. I mean,
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry to get so emotional. People to usually
Speaker 3: tell these stories and they get like kind of emotional,
Speaker 3: but stuff like this, and you know it's probably normal,
Speaker 3: but I'm not. I didn't really intend to, but but
Speaker 3: it was just it was very powerful and I just
Speaker 3: I just I.
Speaker 2: Believe that they exist.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't I think that they're I
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what they are, you know, I think
Speaker 3: that they're they're really there are flesh and blood creatures.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 3: I believe that, and it's kind of hard for me
Speaker 3: to wrap my mind around some things, but I try
Speaker 3: to like try to keep.
Speaker 2: My mind open to you know. I don't know when
Speaker 2: people talk about.
Speaker 3: Things of them being able to teleport, but I just
Speaker 3: think they're really very strong and very powerful, and they
Speaker 3: and what's what's going on right now in the world,
Speaker 3: and just how the world is kind of burning burning up,
Speaker 3: you know. They I think that they're just I think
Speaker 3: that that just pushes them, you know, into more isolated
Speaker 3: areas and they just stay more hidden. I've spent like
Speaker 3: a lot of time on the road traveling for my
Speaker 3: jobs and just you know, being in the military and
Speaker 3: being all over the place, and I just I, you know,
Speaker 3: I always feared i'd probably see something walking across the
Speaker 3: road or something, but I never really have, unfortunately, and
Speaker 3: hopefully hopefully someday I try to. I try to find
Speaker 3: areas to go to go venture out. I lived at
Speaker 3: Houston for a little while, and I would.
Speaker 2: Go into like San Houston Natural Forest and I would.
Speaker 3: Just get out there just to kind of just just
Speaker 3: clear my mind and just try to like just figure
Speaker 3: out life. And you know, I would just I would
Speaker 3: definitely get some weird since freaky, but Sam Houston Natural
Speaker 3: Forest is definitely it's got some pretty freaky vibes out there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let me see. But yeah, I also I
Speaker 2: had another experience. I don't know what this was. It
Speaker 2: was in Austin.
Speaker 3: It was around I don't know, twenty twelve, I believe,
Speaker 3: and it was just before I lost my home. And
Speaker 3: I would just I would always keep my back porch
Speaker 3: open and my backboard the door in the back porch,
Speaker 3: just play music and just kind of like just pace around,
Speaker 3: like walk around and just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: just just I don't know, try to figure out life.
Speaker 3: And one night I just I look out and I
Speaker 3: was living in Austin, like kind of by the way.
Speaker 2: I was actually right next to the airport. I live
Speaker 2: right by the airport.
Speaker 3: And I just I walk out and I look and
Speaker 3: it's just the most strangest thing I've ever seen in
Speaker 3: my life. I'd never I mean, it wasn't like freaky,
Speaker 3: but it was like it was definitely weird. It was
Speaker 3: like so so describe what I saw. Was like it
Speaker 3: looked like a It looked like if you could take
Speaker 3: spokes of a bike and heat them up with like
Speaker 3: to where they're like hot, like red hot, but they're
Speaker 3: like all uniform and they're all like in like a
Speaker 3: kind of like a kind of like spread out like
Speaker 3: a like a like a flower. But it was like
Speaker 3: a spiral in the sky, and there was no fires
Speaker 3: going on, there was nothing. There was not a time
Speaker 3: of year for that to be even happening. And it
Speaker 3: was like it was like in suspended animate It was
Speaker 3: like it was like it was it was like it
Speaker 3: was moving, but it was moving very very very very slow.
Speaker 2: But almost kind of like a but you can only.
Speaker 3: See just like these like lines, and it were just
Speaker 3: kind of like all spread out like in a spiral
Speaker 3: that was like kind of like like moving like a
Speaker 3: kind of like a like what you would imagine maybe
Speaker 3: like a black hole or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: Like it was just the weirdest thing and it just
Speaker 3: kind of faded out, and I try to, like I
Speaker 3: think that I try to take photos of it or
Speaker 3: take video of it, but it didn't like really come out,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, well, you know, whatever that
Speaker 3: could be, Like I don't know. Sometimes like I'm really
Speaker 3: kind of like in that mindset where oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: need to capture this, and then sometimes I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I really care.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, it was just a very very strange thing.
Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot of people and a
Speaker 2: lot of people had like's just.
Speaker 3: Weird, unexplained seem unexplained things, and I've never heard anybody
Speaker 3: ever describe anything like this or see anything like it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't my eyes.
Speaker 3: Either, Like I wasn't like, you know, you have like
Speaker 3: one of those things where you you know, you look
Speaker 3: at lights and then you look away and it like
Speaker 3: makes sure you know it's I don't know what that's called,
Speaker 3: but it just has a in print or your eye
Speaker 3: kind of thing. Like it was not like that at all,
Speaker 3: Like it was like stationed like in that area, like
Speaker 3: it was sitting in the sky kind of like I
Speaker 3: don't know, just not really not super high up, but
Speaker 3: just sitting there and it was just it looked like
Speaker 3: it like it was kind of moving or whatever, but
Speaker 3: it just kind of just disappeared, just like slowly, just
Speaker 3: kind of just was gone. I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 3: it was just but yeah, but anyway, but that's basically
Speaker 3: my story. I mean, it's sorry for getting so emotional.
Speaker 3: It was very intense for me. I really I wish
Speaker 3: I could kind of go back in time. I feel
Speaker 3: like so much time has passed that it's like it's
Speaker 3: not as clear in my mind, but just the just
Speaker 3: the circumstances of all that and like what happened and
Speaker 3: what was happening in that time is still pretty you know,
Speaker 3: I still remember all that pretty clearly.
Speaker 2: So it's but yeah, I've heard other people have.
Speaker 3: Had like other experiences there in fact, in fact, especially
Speaker 3: like that exact same area. One of the things that
Speaker 3: was also as kind of unusual is that like to
Speaker 3: everybody the morning after, so I took a photo of
Speaker 3: like it said, it's March seven fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 3: I think I was up around seven o'clock, I'm pretty sure,
Speaker 3: and I and everybody was gone, like completely gone. I
Speaker 3: didn't have a chance to ask anybody if they hadn't
Speaker 3: like experienced anything, which is like, I mean, that's kind
Speaker 3: of unusual. I mean, you just but I mean, everybody's
Speaker 3: camping and want to get in you know, people like
Speaker 3: to just get on their way and do their thing.
Speaker 3: But I just I was wishing that I could have,
Speaker 3: you know, asked people around because it was very weird.
Speaker 3: It was just very weird how they just like we're
Speaker 3: being all like loud and just like carrying on like
Speaker 3: it was nothing like it was like they didn't have
Speaker 3: they weren't concerned about anybody else it was around them,
Speaker 3: and they just go like abruptly silent, like really silent,
Speaker 3: like not a peep.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I mean, I just I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think if anything, you know, it was
Speaker 2: checking people out or something. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: something for sure was walking around.
Speaker 1: Brent, thank you for sharing. That is an incredibly emotional story.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should ever feel like you have
Speaker 1: to apologize for how that affected you. I mean, that
Speaker 1: is a life changing, literally life changing experience what you experienced.
Speaker 1: And I've been in a situation where I've been in
Speaker 1: a tent alone in a place and something was walking
Speaker 1: around my tent at two or three am in the morning.
Speaker 2: And it is.
Speaker 1: Very very intense living in that space where it's just
Speaker 1: you and whatever is out there. Yeah, I don't talk
Speaker 1: about it a lot, but it is is very very intense.
Speaker 2: And how did that.
Speaker 1: I found that when I was in that situation affected
Speaker 1: me a lot of different physical ways. Did did it
Speaker 1: affect how you were breathing or your blood pressure? Did
Speaker 1: you find any any weird things starting to put to you?
Speaker 3: No, I just could not move, like I literally nothing
Speaker 3: I could. I was paralyzed, Like I mean, I was
Speaker 3: literally paralyzed.
Speaker 2: So I was.
Speaker 3: I was like my body was like constricted, like that's
Speaker 3: how it felt like it was constricting and just like
Speaker 3: just holding I was it was like I was in
Speaker 3: this like this frozen like just cr like cringed position like.
Speaker 2: I don't know it just it was just weird.
Speaker 3: And what was weird is at the time like I
Speaker 3: couldn't it was like I had no concept of time,
Speaker 3: like it's weird that I was. I was there for
Speaker 3: three hours, and I didn't like it felt like fifteen minutes,
Speaker 3: Like it felt like it didn't feel like that I had.
Speaker 2: Been there that long, you know what I mean, Like I.
Speaker 3: Felt like maybe thirty thirty thirty five minutes, but it
Speaker 3: was three hours, three full hours. So I at that point,
Speaker 3: after three hours, I felt like I can move and
Speaker 3: I just reached down to check my phone and I
Speaker 3: was like it was like it hit three hours had
Speaker 3: passed and I was like, I just I was like wow,
Speaker 3: Like I was like WHOA. And I don't even know
Speaker 3: if it was there the whole time or not. It
Speaker 3: was hard for me. I would hear things like I
Speaker 3: would hear like like more.
Speaker 2: Movement and stuff. But I was just like at that point,
Speaker 2: I think, I think what what I was doing? My
Speaker 2: mind my mind was trying to like just block it out.
Speaker 2: My mind was just like, oh we got.
Speaker 3: Just you just got to block this out, like you
Speaker 3: just you don't want to, like like you don't. It's
Speaker 3: like my mind was like you don't want to be
Speaker 3: like we we don't want to be experiencing this like
Speaker 3: it just that's what. And that was That's all you
Speaker 3: know I can say. I mean, it was just it
Speaker 3: was so nuts and I and I and it was
Speaker 3: so weird.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like I I man, I just I
Speaker 2: don't know. I wish I could have I wish I
Speaker 2: could have asked the.
Speaker 3: People next to me if they what they experienced. And
Speaker 3: it was I mean out of kN you, like everybody
Speaker 3: was gone too. Like when I woke up, it was
Speaker 3: like everybody had left the part. I was like what
Speaker 3: the I was like, where did it really go like
Speaker 3: this like then no one like staying like doesn't people
Speaker 3: don't people like cause they had like people look like
Speaker 3: they were like set up for like you know, like
Speaker 3: they're playing on stand there for a little while, you know,
Speaker 3: like and it wasn't like the weather was really the
Speaker 3: weather was not really at all.
Speaker 2: It was actually very nice. It was it was a
Speaker 2: little cold and kind of chilly. But but yeah, when.
Speaker 1: You got up that morning, did you notice anything weird
Speaker 1: about the area around your tent, like on the ground,
Speaker 1: was there anything, Yeah, anything you start.
Speaker 3: You didn't notice anything. Now the ground was very it
Speaker 3: was really dry, like just super super dry, like it's
Speaker 3: like and it was kind of there was a little
Speaker 3: bit of a like a wind, a little bit of
Speaker 3: a let's slight breathe. I think it kind of like
Speaker 3: it just there was just I don't think there was
Speaker 3: any kind of like there. The soil was just not
Speaker 3: really like that around me to really make anything. But
Speaker 3: I I looked, I walked around and looked looked around
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 2: And I didn't. I just didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: I took like I said, I took a photo of
Speaker 3: like there's like an open I guess it's kind of
Speaker 3: it's like a trail, I guess, like the I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's like a full trailer. It just kind
Speaker 3: of opens up, but it's like it was. But I
Speaker 3: just took a photo out just kind of like you know,
Speaker 3: this is where I'm you know, this is this happened
Speaker 3: here kind of thing, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: that's you know, it was not really.
Speaker 2: Like a beautiful photo of anything like spectacular.
Speaker 3: It was just like all right, click, you know, just
Speaker 3: I'm just marking this, you know, for for for my reference.
Speaker 2: But yeah, big for society will be right back.
Speaker 1: After these messages, you also mentioned that you had an
Speaker 1: experience where you knew that there was definitely a grizzly
Speaker 1: a few feet away from you.
Speaker 2: No, I saw it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I saw it and like I was, I
Speaker 3: could hear it and see it and it was not
Speaker 3: far from me. Like I wasn't trying to like take
Speaker 3: photos of it or video it, but.
Speaker 2: I mean you can you can. It was at the
Speaker 2: It's at.
Speaker 3: The Grant Village campground, is what the photo says were
Speaker 3: that's where the area is. But if you if you
Speaker 3: look that up or contact them, I'm sure that there's
Speaker 3: like they probably have a history of like the they
Speaker 3: have to have some documentation of it, because they told
Speaker 3: me when I was renting my space there, They're like,
Speaker 3: they're like, we have a grizzly that walks around here,
Speaker 3: and this is like this is not close to where
Speaker 3: I was at, and this is like further up, like
Speaker 3: from where I was at. This is a much further
Speaker 3: like this is like I mean, you can look and
Speaker 3: see where it was, but it just it didn't seem
Speaker 3: like it was in the same area. But like this, yeah,
Speaker 3: it definitely walked up, but that was not and we
Speaker 3: weren't told that that was something we had to Like
Speaker 3: they said they were they were checking people, but they
Speaker 3: weren't saying that they were expecting you know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: they just they just said that it can happened, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean it could. They're they're all over the par
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're everywhere. So but yeah, I definitely did.
Speaker 3: I was in next next to it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: it was pretty close.
Speaker 2: It walked.
Speaker 3: It would basically just walk through the camp and it
Speaker 3: would hang out in that area the Grant Village campground
Speaker 3: or whatever. And I think someone actually I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was.
Speaker 2: The same one, but they there's I read recently. It
Speaker 2: was like I guess it was put down because they
Speaker 2: someone tried to mess with it or something, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was just all I was doing was going from
Speaker 3: place to I was just like I'm just going on
Speaker 3: from another place and I'm on a camp here again,
Speaker 3: which was I don't know, like it's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: that I even felt like comfortable camping again. I don't
Speaker 3: even know how. I was, Like, I'm surprised that I
Speaker 3: wasn't like terrified. I think I was at that, but
Speaker 3: like I said, I was just like it just excited.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: It scared me, but it also like it just did
Speaker 3: something to me, Like it's like turn something on inside me.
Speaker 3: And I was just like I was like kind of
Speaker 3: just obsessed, Like like when when I stayed at Old Faithful,
Speaker 3: I mean I drove around for like at least an
Speaker 3: hour and a half that night and I would just
Speaker 3: drive like I would drive, I blast my music really loud,
Speaker 3: and then I would just turn it completely off and
Speaker 3: I didn't really have much but but yeah, I just
Speaker 3: just the hearing that just hearing how it's movements and
Speaker 3: hearing it walk. The bear was really it was clumsy.
Speaker 3: It was just it was like it.
Speaker 2: Was you hear like kind of groaning and like.
Speaker 3: Just you know, doing stuff like like the way I've
Speaker 3: heard what bears sound and like you we know what
Speaker 3: bears sound like it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It was not. That's not what I was hearing.
Speaker 3: Like this was like quiet, like something was trying to
Speaker 3: like not be detected, but it was still letting me
Speaker 3: know it was there. Like it was like it literally
Speaker 3: just I just know that it leaned over in my head,
Speaker 3: like leaned over me, like literally like directly over.
Speaker 2: Me and just kind of like just stood like just
Speaker 2: was there and I just I could just feel it
Speaker 2: its presence, like it was just it was just so crazy.
Speaker 2: But I just I don't I'm very convinced that it
Speaker 2: was not you know, it was not that it was
Speaker 2: not a bear. It was not not a moose like
Speaker 2: I think I would have.
Speaker 3: I think I would have definitely heard the moose if anything,
Speaker 3: I mean and if if the mama moose around was
Speaker 3: ever was around, and like it was far enough up
Speaker 3: the road that I don't think that they I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't think it would have been able to find
Speaker 3: me or figure out where I was at or if
Speaker 3: that was me, because it's not like you could see
Speaker 3: where I was going, and it's not like it knew
Speaker 3: where I was camped at, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: But like I don't know, like I just.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I still to this day.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's.
Speaker 3: Been something that's been something that I think about like
Speaker 3: all the time, and I you know, I'm nervous to
Speaker 3: have like, you know, a face to face, but you know,
Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, I it would be
Speaker 3: I think it'd be very interesting to have my own
Speaker 3: encounter someday and see, you know.
Speaker 2: Just see with my own eyes.
Speaker 3: And just I just I hear so many like interesting
Speaker 3: you know stories, and you know, I feg I feel.
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna catch up at one point.
Speaker 3: I actually one of the songs, I actually created a
Speaker 3: song for the I don't know if you might men
Speaker 3: mentioned about or are we talked about this earlier, but yeah,
Speaker 3: but I make music and I've been kind of making
Speaker 3: claudes and stuff like that. They kind of like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, that's just kind of like a therapeutic thing
Speaker 3: for me. Just it just helps me kind of like
Speaker 3: kind of work things out and just I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's just interesting me. But I wrote a song called
Speaker 3: titled uh first Contact A close Encounter, and it just
Speaker 3: it was just inspired that by that, like by that
Speaker 3: that event, and I wrote a lot of those songs
Speaker 3: that are known, like I've never I wrote a song
Speaker 3: about it orbs If anybody wants to check it out,
Speaker 3: it's called the Wild Whimpers. That's the name of the
Speaker 3: it's the instrumental music. But but yeah, hopefully I'll have
Speaker 3: more experiences in the future. I don't I don't get
Speaker 3: out as much as and the world as often as
Speaker 3: i'd like to. I mean, we supposedly have. There's actually
Speaker 3: there's a space, it's really crazy here in Oklahoma City
Speaker 3: that has it's a it's a nature reserve that actually
Speaker 3: has there's a history of people having like seeing stuff
Speaker 3: like walk through and.
Speaker 2: The way that they the way that the land is
Speaker 2: like basically like like situated, it's they can basically just
Speaker 2: like anything could walk through like this kind of like
Speaker 2: it's a kind of like a quarter almost.
Speaker 3: That like kind of opens up into the reserve. But
Speaker 3: like outside of that reserve, it's just nothing. But houses
Speaker 3: and stuff. So but you know, people.
Speaker 2: Have supposedly have stuff. I mean it's seen, you know,
Speaker 2: seen and encountered things out there multiple people. So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I try to get out there and I don't know,
Speaker 3: have another experience and see something.
Speaker 2: But nothing hasn't nothing, nothing's really happened as it yet.
Speaker 2: I mean it seems like, you know, like I.
Speaker 3: Said, with all the stuff that's going on in this world,
Speaker 3: I feel like they're they're kind of you know, these
Speaker 3: fires and stuff like that. I think about like how
Speaker 3: that affects them and they, you know, just how they
Speaker 3: deal with all the elements, you know, cold all that.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they're adapted to it, but it's just
Speaker 3: like definitely fires and stuff like that, that's got to
Speaker 3: be something that's really you know, I just imagine that's
Speaker 3: why it pushes them in certain areas.
Speaker 2: And I also reached out to run Warhead. I actually
Speaker 2: made another version of.
Speaker 3: That song and added some clips of the Sierra Sounds
Speaker 3: to it. I just thought it sounded really cool, but
Speaker 3: I ended up taking taking it down. I reached out
Speaker 3: that he was okay with me using it, Like I
Speaker 3: we reached.
Speaker 2: I talked to him through email, and he was okay,
Speaker 2: he gave me permission. He just wanted to give him
Speaker 2: credit for it.
Speaker 3: But I was like, they're working, they're they're working on
Speaker 3: they're currently working on a documentary about the year, about
Speaker 3: the camp, and I just didn't I didn't want anythink that.
Speaker 3: I didn't want anybody to think that I was like
Speaker 3: writing trying to write off his team or something, or
Speaker 3: just being like because I I had mentioned to him,
Speaker 3: like I had mentioned to him about like maybe like
Speaker 3: doing like has anybody I asked him that if anybody
Speaker 3: helped made like like made a movie about his life
Speaker 3: or about his experiences out there, because I think because
Speaker 3: I thought what they experienced was very interesting, and I
Speaker 3: thought that like, I mean, him his his the serious
Speaker 3: sounds and the uh the Patterson Gimlok footage, those are
Speaker 3: like those are the two most convincing pieces of evidence
Speaker 3: to me, because I mean they're they're during a time
Speaker 3: where it's really really really difficult to take that. But
Speaker 3: I reached out to him about it and about that,
Speaker 3: and so I.
Speaker 2: Might maybe release that later on. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: he said it's okay.
Speaker 3: I just told my would I would I decided to
Speaker 3: take it down for the moment just see, you know,
Speaker 3: just let you know, just just release my music as
Speaker 3: for you know, I just want to let my you know,
Speaker 3: music se for itself for now and then see where
Speaker 3: it goes.
Speaker 2: But maybe later on, you know.
Speaker 3: I told them that they're welcome to use that for
Speaker 3: that documentary they would like to, but yeah, that's something else.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll definitely have you know, your music linked in
Speaker 1: the show notes for this so people can go and
Speaker 1: and check that out. But I hope you do continue
Speaker 1: to go out into nature, and it sounds like you
Speaker 1: would be going with the right intention, and I think
Speaker 1: if you continue to do that, you may definitely have
Speaker 1: something else happen in the future. And you know, would
Speaker 1: love to hear about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: I think it's just going to be I think, you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to be like it's just
Speaker 3: going to be another unexpected something like it'll be it'll
Speaker 3: be something that I don't expect, because that's what that's
Speaker 3: it seemed like when I was intently trying to find something,
Speaker 3: it was harder, like it just something. It was just
Speaker 3: like I was But like when I was not even
Speaker 3: like expecting it.
Speaker 2: That's when it was like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like it just I was like, whoa, like it just
Speaker 2: it just it just it just I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I mean, it just it just I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I would actually, you know,
Speaker 3: if I ever saw one like, I don't know if
Speaker 3: i'd even be prepared for that.
Speaker 2: But you think I guess I kind of think in
Speaker 2: my mind that I'm I I am like in a
Speaker 2: sense preparing myself for that, but you never know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect. I mean, here's so
Speaker 2: many stories from people their reactions, and.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I just it's it's you just
Speaker 3: never know, like I guess what you would expect, you know.
Speaker 3: But but anyway, but I really appreciate you letting me
Speaker 3: share my story again. I sorry forgetting so I just
Speaker 3: it wasn't I was not expecting that at all, but
Speaker 3: it was definitely very tense. My I think I wish
Speaker 3: I could share my collage like that of that I
Speaker 3: did for my dad, because that was really kind of
Speaker 3: I felt like those experiences were really kind of like
Speaker 3: his the way he described it, and just kind of
Speaker 3: like it was very very spiritual, and I think that
Speaker 3: there's a I think there is like a very like
Speaker 3: deep like there's.
Speaker 2: Something about them.
Speaker 3: There's just something that's very I don't know, it's just
Speaker 3: it's like this this sense that they that's just.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, they they I think they are
Speaker 3: in a sense maybe you know, a little bit more
Speaker 3: advanced and just a very primal way, you know, and
Speaker 3: we're kind of more heading towards that kind of like tech.
Speaker 3: You know, we're just kind of heading in the direction
Speaker 3: a different direction. I feel like humans are just we're
Speaker 3: moving completely away, we're going more digitized and more, and
Speaker 3: they're you know, they're they're just you know, they don't
Speaker 3: I don't think they probably actively think of like we're hunting.
Speaker 2: In our skills here, but you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: it's like they are.
Speaker 3: I do feel like there's something about them that they
Speaker 3: you know, they can they can move fast, and it's
Speaker 3: like very they have so much strength and ability and
Speaker 3: agility and just they're just built that way to just
Speaker 3: to move and just like evade things. And I think
Speaker 3: that's why they stay, you know, so hidden and so undetected,
Speaker 3: you know, and hopefully someday we'll figure it out. I
Speaker 3: think that we I think they would be really cool.
Speaker 3: When I pitched that, when I was asking Ron Mornhead
Speaker 3: about this whole thing or mentioning that to them, a
Speaker 3: lot of thoughts are going through my head, and I
Speaker 3: was thinking, like, oh man, people are going to think
Speaker 3: like this is like some you know, just just I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what really people think. I mean,
Speaker 3: I just generally think a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: the movies to me that I watched, like they are
Speaker 3: about like they're just they're always usually really silly, and
Speaker 3: they always put in some like some silly costume and
Speaker 3: it's not really like it's you know, it's not really.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. It's just kind of done in
Speaker 2: a very kind of like in a way that kind.
Speaker 3: Of kind of pokes fun A lot of time makes it,
Speaker 3: you know, it seems really intentional. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: guess for entertainment purposes or what. But you know, I
Speaker 3: just said, you know, there's movies that are basically based
Speaker 3: on doctormaries, and but that's not something that he you know,
Speaker 3: he's he has a different angle of what, you know,
Speaker 3: what he wants you know, to take this and that's
Speaker 3: kind of like counter I guess he sees that he
Speaker 3: might see that as counterproductive of like making a movie
Speaker 3: about someone's life, because you know, people always think that
Speaker 3: movies maybe can't be based on something real.
Speaker 2: I did see that. I actually went to a trip
Speaker 2: and stopped.
Speaker 3: In Rockwell or Roswell, I mean in New Mexico one
Speaker 3: time on one of the trips that I took, just
Speaker 3: driving around and I actually saw that guy from the
Speaker 3: from the Far in the Sky movie.
Speaker 2: He was at like the museum there. It was really interesting,
Speaker 2: just kind of mean him.
Speaker 3: But but anyway, but yeah, but I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe something will happen of that later on. Maybe I'll,
Speaker 3: like I said, I might release that song later on
Speaker 3: and there might be something something come of it. But
Speaker 3: if it doesn't, it doesn't, you know it just but
Speaker 3: but that's something else that I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: just mentioning it was.
Speaker 2: Something that was working on.
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I just don't want to be
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Get the wrong impression. So that's why I said, I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to wait, you know, I want to get like,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe if they're construction cup if they end
Speaker 3: up like doing like a darkam me, they can like
Speaker 3: use it, you know. So I just didn't want to
Speaker 3: push it. But I just think that their their stories
Speaker 3: are very they're they're very interesting way more you know,
Speaker 3: just you know, I wish I had some like some
Speaker 3: evidence or something, you know, to really say, hey, this
Speaker 3: is what you know. All I have really is just
Speaker 3: and just my word of you know what happened. But
Speaker 3: you know, I but anyway, but I really appreciate you
Speaker 3: let me share this, And this is the only time
Speaker 3: I've shared it, like pretty much. I mean, I've told
Speaker 3: a few people and they've listened to me, Like I
Speaker 3: think about half of them like think that it's they
Speaker 3: just they don't they don't really you know, think maybe.
Speaker 2: If I'm crazier or not. I don't know what they think, but.
Speaker 3: They just I think it's which is even odd because
Speaker 3: some of the people that I've told us too that
Speaker 3: I have this one friend that he spends a ton
Speaker 3: of time. He's gone like all kinds of places like
Speaker 3: just anywhere, just like that you'd think that that sasquatch
Speaker 3: would probably be and but he's really kind of like no, he's.
Speaker 2: A real like I don't know.
Speaker 3: He basically just says, I don't he won't say nothing,
Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's like, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: he has had something. I imagine he's had to something's
Speaker 3: bound to happen. But because I just hear so many
Speaker 3: you spend enough time, I guarantee if if someone spends
Speaker 3: enough time that you're probably it's bound to happen eventually.
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, that's just my opinion. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I just I really think that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well, we definitely all have our own journey
Speaker 1: that we have to travel trying to figure all this out.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just want to say again, Brent,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on and for trusting us enough
Speaker 1: to share your story and allowing us to put it
Speaker 1: out there. And I've really appreciated talking to you today.
Speaker 1: And you know, definitely keep us informed if anything else
Speaker 1: does happen in the future. But thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 3: I'll share this on my Instagram too, so like my
Speaker 3: followers can can check it out, check out the episode.
Speaker 2: I don't mind having people listen to this. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's I think it's interesting. I love staying.
Speaker 3: I still even like I said, I've had interested as
Speaker 3: a kid, and I'm still it's still really interesting to me.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just fascinating. I hope someday we can
Speaker 3: kind of really figure out, you know, dive in and
Speaker 3: find out like more what they are and maybe like
Speaker 3: acknowledge that they're you know, have some have the people
Speaker 3: you know that work in these government positions like acknowledge
Speaker 3: it and just kind of just say hey, you know,
Speaker 3: and then you know, maybe you could just protect it,
Speaker 3: you know.
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