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Speaker 1: Well, first off, thanks for having me, guys. Appreciate up
followed you guys on Instagram for a while and locking
you stuff and watching you stuff, and a lot of
the guests that we both have or mutual so a
lot of the stuff we talked abouts in the same vein.
So I was eager to get in contact with you guys,
So thank you for allowing me to come on your show.
And talk to you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. James Justin Yeah, Dame's Justin Brown. Kind
of over the years, just deep diving research and talking
to these authors and researchers with guys. With the ten
thousand plus hours, I'm living the dream. But I kind
of earned the name Doc. People just call me Doc Brown.
But yeah, man. My first podcast adventure was in twenty
twenty two with a couple of my buddies called the
dig Bible Podcast. We've done that for about two years
and then the Bible studies were awesome, but it wasn't
enough for me. I'm a glutton for punishment. I wanted
to look through ancient loss, civilizations, history, cryptids, conspiracy theory,
all those other fastening topics, but just filter those through
a biblical lens. So the Prometheus lens was born. It's
now a year old, and that ended up resulting in
me writing my first book, The Epica be Saw the
Birthright and Seed War. It's been out for one month now,
so yeah, people has just been following me since twenty
twenty two. It's I kind of caned it. The hero's journey.
You get to see me on my journey of discovery
and searching through the treasures and looking for the gold
nuggets in God's word, it's been amazing journey so far.
Speaker 6: Amen.
Speaker 4: Amen, it's always a crazy journey. How will you start?
And then where you're at now? You're never like, man,
was I ever going to be here? You know, it's
kind of it's kind of amazing when you think about it,
it's really amazing. So moving forward, So, you know, let's
talk about your book. I mean, I've I've I know
who Esau is. You know, I know the story of
you know, of the battle between the you know, the
two brothers and his birthright getting taken away. I've read
the extra apocryphal books and they kind of described Esau
looking like like in the Book of Josh and the
Book of Jubilees. I think he's like described even though
those are not uh you know, they say they're not
mechanical books or inspired books, but I mean you can
use them for references, you know, I would say in
my opinion, and the way he's described is he's like this,
like this pale, redheaded looking harry guy or something like that,
at least to what I read.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean even just even the Book of Genesis.
You know, his birth alone is is strange to say
the least. I mean it says he come out red,
covered in hair from head to toe like a Harry
cloak and h and as a kid, I was asking
questions about this guy, but I was told from a
very whitewashed point of view that oh, he was just
a guy with a full beard, or he had Harry arms,
or everybody's got that uncle that when he goes to
the beach or the pool he takes his shirt off,
he's got that little light wool sweater on his back.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: That was Esau. And it wasn't until about two years
ago we I was with my friends on the Big
Bible podcast. We had Trey Smith from gott In a
Nutshow on the show, and he kind of made a
little joke and he was like, yeah, you boys are
from East Tennessee. That's bigfoot country. Maybe I'll come down
there and we'll go on a bigfoot hunt and we'll
record it make a documentary. And I was like, yeah, man,
that'd be fun. Come on down and just out of nowhere,
Genesis twenty five, twenty five popped into my head, and
it hit me totally different. And I was like, you know,
in the words of doctor Michael Heizer, we read the
Bible like a kid reading it for the first time,
like we're reading a fantasy novel, and just let the
text say what it says, remove our pre conceived notions
and our dogma and our teachings. That's the best way
we're going to understand it.
Speaker 6: And it did it.
Speaker 1: I was like Manny's he was covered in red hair
all over from head to toe. I mean that sounds
like a sasquash to me. Yeah, So I said that
the trade, you know, like, what do you think you
think he saw? Might have been like the first Bigfoot?
And he kind of laughed, you know, and ended up
just long story, shortage. Just I kept finding all these
other little things. I kept fighting, Like at the epic
of Gilgamesh, you bump into this guy named Inky Doo.
Sounds a lot like Esau has this epic battle with
the king Gilgamesh. And then like you said, you get
into the Book of Jasher. That's a mirrored image story,
I think, because whoever's telling the story is going to
spin it positively in their favor. Because the Book of
Jasher says that Nimrod, you know, he was the mighty hunter.
This was the claim of fame of Esau also, so
it's kind of like, this is the the Highlander. You know,
there can only be one mighty man. So they clash
and they battle. But in the story of the Book
of Jasher, Esau chops off Memrod's head and kills two
of his gibble reem you know, the same words you
used to describe the Nephelom giants. So this man, this
Harry quote unquote man kills three giants single handedly in combat.
And it says that he takes the time to steal
Nimrod's garments, that this of these garments were the reason
that he was able to be a mighty man and
able to prevail over all the nations. And then he
goes back home hides the garments, and then there's where
it ties perfectly into the Book of Genesis and the
trading of the birthright. And I was immediately I was like,
this makes a lot more sense to me, because he
just killed the king. He's on the run, he's afraid
for his life, probably sustained some life threatening injuries from
this exchange with these three giants. He thought he was
going to die. He was scared to death, so he
was trading his birthright to his brother Base to sew
up my wounds, give me some food, hide me. And
that's why he even said in the Book of Genesis,
what use is a birthright to me when I'm dead?
Take it? And so immediately my curiosity was sparked. So
I just went digging through all these other extra biblical
books and uh Lewis Ginsburg, Legends of the Jews, and
and just sort of gathering all these puzzle pieces to
this this enigmatic character.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's uh, that's like a really big rabbit
hole to go down. It's it's uh, it's always like
a certain you know, there's always certain people I think
that that are meant to go to a certain down,
certain like certain rabbit holes, because I think certain people,
you know, when God chooses them, he chooses a type
of person that's going to deliver the message correctly. So
I just always think that when someone goes down a
rabbit hole like that, that that a lot of people
haven't done. I think, like, I think that's like a
revelation for for for you, you're being chosen to do that.
I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's
just the way I feel about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean honestly, because it is. It's kind of
just like all these little things was revealed to me,
just in bits and pieces at a time. I discovered that,
you know, that Genesis twenty five twenty five passage in
that new light. I bumped into that story in the
Epic of Gilgamesh. And then right after that, it was
maybe a week later, I discovered that story in the
Book of Jashure, and I was like, Man, I have
to just go into a deep dive with this guy.
I have to find out you know, all the stories
and bits and pieces. And I'm a firm believer. Like
you mentioned these extra biblical books, they're not in our
quote unquote cannon. But Michael Heiser says something that's really
stuck with me. He says, something doesn't have to be
divine inspired to be important for historical contexts, for cultural contexts,
and to better understand and the people of the time
that were reading this book and writing this book, to
get a proper understanding from our modern viewpoint, and even
with the giants. That's something that in our circles that
everybody's fascinated with. But if we just went off the
Book of Genesis in the Bible, we just get small
little blurbs, you know, in Genesis six. And I think
that's because the writers spelt they didn't need to theoretically
beat a dead horse because they had all these other
scrolls floating around, like the Book of Enoch, and they
had the oral traditions. So the writer was like, I
don't really need to go into great detail about that.
Everybody knows about the giants and that story. They wasn't
thinking about us thousand of years later. So I think
that's the case with Esau and many other things in
this biblical text.
Speaker 4: I think so with that rebutter right there, I want
to this is my opinion. When you said we only
get a little piece of the Bible. What these things
look like, in my opinion is because the people that
were writing it were closer to the times when these
things were walking around, and I didn't think they really
had to go into too much detail because they were
witnessing these things when they were you know, they were
witnessing some of these people were witnessing these creatures. So
it's like they didn't have to put too much detail
because everybody knew what they what they were talking about.
Speaker 6: Does that make any sense? That's why I think that is.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like when people say, oh,
you can't, you know, you're not supposed to read the apocrypha.
You know, it's it's the same blah blah blah, and
it tells people why not like we were using it
for reference. So if that's the case, then you're not
allowed to read any book at all other than the Bible.
You're allowed to read the Bible, and you can't have
no one else's opinion, no one's input, you know what
I mean, Like, how are you going to say I
can't read that, but then you're going to go read
you know, you know.
Speaker 6: Tray Smith's book. You know what I'm saying. What's the difference?
You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the thing is is we have many references too,
because when we read our sixty six book can And
that's the thing I mean, people, if we're going to
be you know, theologically honest, you know, these were there
was no Bible that there was just a bunch of
scrolls that people put together and made this book and
these apocryphal texts were just scrolls that didn't, you know,
make the cut, and so they were in circulation, and
the writers were reading them, and that's why I think
you get references to them in your canon. The Book
of Enoch, you know, is referenced several times. It's even
directly quoted by Jude, who was Jesus's half brother, And
I jokingly tell people, I mean, if it was good
enough for Jesus's brother, it's good enough for me. Paul
quotes from it, Jesus makes allusions to it that a
lot of people theorize and postulate that he was quoting
from the Book of Enoch in first kings it in
there it gets lost in translations, but it says, is
it not? Is this story not quoted in the Book
of Yashaar It's almost.
Speaker 4: Jasher the Sun when the son holds still? Yeah, I says,
as it is written in the Book of Josh. Yeah,
I does say that.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, these the writers were reading these texts,
and they were familiar with them. And so when I
was going through and studying that, and my very first
question was, you know, what was so special about these
garments that he had to take them from Themrod and
it was really cool. I kept reading in through the
Book of Joshure and shortly after that encounter, it fills
you in on it and it basically tells you that
these garments were the supernatural garments from the Garden of
God that was given to Adam and Eve as their covering,
and it was passed through the lineage as the symbol
of kingship and priesthood, and this was the birthright, and
they trace this is passed to the eldest son, and
they trace it all the way through. It comes through
Enoch to Methuselah to Noah, and it says that Noah
has them on the boat and takes them through the flood,
and that it's in Ham's going out that Ham steals
the garments and that he gives them to Cush, and
that Cush conceals them, and that he has Nimrod in
his old age, and it uses this phrase that's really
common in the Bible, and you find it a lot,
and one that really stands out in my mind is Joseph,
because it says that this was the child of his
old age and whom he loved exceedingly, and that's what
it says about Nimrod concerning cush and it says that
Nimrod was the child of Kusha's old age, whom he
loved exceedingly, and he bestowed upon him the garments. And
it says at the coming of age at twenty years old,
Nimrod put on the garments and he then becomes a
gibble reem. And that's why a lot of people in
our circles, you know, asked that question, because in Genesis
it doesn't say that he was born a gibbe riem.
It says he becomes a give reem. And a lot
of people, you know, postulate, was this you know, magic,
was this sexual occult riots Uh, you know, there's all
kinds of things that they postulate what made him become
an nephilim or a gibble reem. But the Book of
Jashuar attributes it to these garments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a very interesting thing that you're bringing up,
because when I read the book. First of all, let
me just tell you, man, the Book of Joshua is
probably one of my favorite apocryphal books I've ever read
because it is just so epic. Well, you know, the
battles or Judah, he gets that rocket, Like the weight
of the rocket is like a ninety rock. Those like
a baseball knocks that guy out the horse fighting twenty
dudes at the same time. I mean, even if half
of that is real, that's it's amazing. If anybody hasn't
read the Book of Josher, go out there and read it.
It is a Lord of the Rings, epic battle every
other chapter times of thousand.
Speaker 6: Am I right? Am? I right, It's a very epic book.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, moving forward with the whole the whole
thing with the skin, I don't know if I'm correct
or not, but I believe wasn't the skin taken from
the serpent was like the snake skin, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was honestly one of the biggest mind
blow moments of my research because as I was reading that,
I was like, Okay, now I have to go back
to the garden and take a closer look at these coverings.
And I started sporming like ideas in my head, you know,
And then I started thinking about Ezekiel twenty eight, you know,
And the scholarship is ninety eight point eight percent on me,
if not one hundred percent, that they was talking to Satan. Yeah,
the first half it's a condemnation to the King of Tire.
But halfway through the wording changes. He's no longer talking
to a human. He's talking to a spiritual entity behind
this king, which is Satan. And it says, you know
you were in the garden of God. Every precious stone
was your covering barrel onyx topaz jasper. It names all
these these stones, where our English translation lists nine stones,
but when you go to the septuagen it lists twelve stones.
And this sounds identical to the priestly ephot And when
you go to the Hebrew, this serpent in English, in
Hebrew is nakash, and nakash can mean serpent, but can
also mean the shining one or the one who practices divination.
And if you take that garment that Satan is described
to be wearing an Ezekiel twenty eight, I mean it
fits the bill perfectly, these multicolored stones that said there
was gold inlays and they were perfect today, that he
was created un till iniquity was found in him, you know,
So he's got this priestly e fought on and then
it even says that he profaned his sanctuaries amongst the
stones of fire, he walked it's painting Satan in a
priestly role. So I was just kind of thinking in
my head. I was like, could it be that at
the Fall Satan was demoted, kicked out of his priestly
position and dominion and priesthood was given to his quote
unquote younger brother who he tried to trick and deceive.
And that kind of goes with the micro narrative of
all of scripture time and time again, the elder brother,
you know, in the bigger picture, the angelic race, the
micro narrative the humans, the elder brother is always displaced
in God favors the younger, and so it kind of
even matches this micro narrative through the Biblical text. And
so once I started reading through Jashure, I found it says,
there's just outright that these coverings were the skins of
the serpent, the coverings of the Nakash. And I was like,
oh man, that's awesome, you know, I mean, Holy Spirit
confirmation right there. And so as I got to digging
and just going through all this stuff, and all these
things just kept, you know, revealing itself to me, and
it just answered so many ambiguous questions with the Bible,
and you get to the trading of the birthright and
then even the blessing, because even to this day there's
people when I bring this up there they try to
tell me concerning the Sasquatch idea or you know, if
you've seen the description of this out in the street
or in the woods without hesitation, that's what you would say.
You would say, I seen a sasquatch, I've seen a
big foot. And oh no, that was hyperbole. You know,
that was just poetic language, is what that was. Well,
how do you explain the deception of Jacob and Rebecca.
Rebecca tells Jacob, you know, to go in and fuol
their blind father, and his response is very telling. He says, no, mother,
I am a smooth man, he said. And if I
go in and my father finds out that I'm playing
a trick, he said, a curse will fall upon me
instead of a blessing. And she says, well, if there
is a curse, let the curse fall fall upon me.
Just do as I say. And they wrap him in
this goat fur like a blanket. So I mean he
was literally that hairy. And those garments are in that
story too, and it wasn't until I had the glasses
to see it. Because when you go back and read
that story like the Cherry on Top, it says that
Rebecca then goes into Esau's tent and takes one of
his special garments and places it upon Jacob, and Jacob
goes in, and Isaac's like, I feel my son, Esau.
But I hear my son, Jacob, he says, but I
smell my son, Esau. You smell of the field, so
therefore I know you are my son, and you hear
all these stories about these sasquatch encounters. And the smells. Yeah,
you know, I thought that was kind of a you know,
a nose point there.
Speaker 4: They usually smell like like they say, they smell just
like like very bad, like a disgusting the old type
of smell, right like death, even like a dead body.
Sometimes they smell like as with the things I've heard
from the people I've interviewed. But I know, Dominic, I
know you want to say something. Go ahead and interject, Well,
when the.
Speaker 3: When this was all happening with the Edomites, what I
understand is they commingled with the who rights. These are
the the hybrid nephileine known as the cave dwellers.
Speaker 1: M hmmm.
Speaker 3: So it's possibility that the line of Esaw has commingled
with this, with this highbred race. And you go further
into history, well actually forward, and we interviewed people like
Ron Moorehead. I asked him about this. I say, is
it possible that these entities are mating with the natives
because he says that the natives they report that the
women are being stolen And he says yes, And I said, okay,
have you ever come upon six finger or six toe prints?
He said yes, it's so for me that's in that fhelem.
But there's other creatures that look more human. You got
the bigfoot right that the a twelve footer. I think
that's like the like the rich bloodline. And I think
the smaller ones report at six foot six and a half,
I think those are more human. But when I when
I looked at this, and we interviewed Jonathan Dover, the
Navajo Ranger, he had one story that that really, you know,
impacted me this day. He says, on the native on
the Navajo ranch, the there's report of a of a
shadow creature coming up from the ground. Okay, and then
it materialized, it came became solid flesh and bone, and
they said it was it was a big foot. So
John Dover went o there and his partner and they
investigated and they tracked it for I don't know how
many miles. He says, the footprints just disappeared. It's it's nothing.
So my thing with this is, this is just my opinion.
I think some of these big foot or unsanctioned creations
that have angelic powers because I don't think I mean,
if God would have created elephants and gorillas and lines
to just come out of the ground and become flesh
and bone, I mean, okay, that's his creation. But this
is this is something more spiritual for me. This this
comes from the from the rebel sons of God. But
some of them could be more human that don't have
that ability.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just it's all this is this conjecture, really, but
I'm not going to go by what like people like
Ron Mori'd say, and and Jonathan Dover and others who
see these things and.
Speaker 5: I don't imagine.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are out there and I think when
they when they when they do this thing, when people
see them in the forest and they blend in and disappear.
That could be the hair follicle matching a chameleon type
of thing, according to a DA Roberts.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a that's a fact that that multiple people
have seen them, Like they look like a predator like
the movie Predator where you could see them, but they're
kind of like warpy a little bit.
Speaker 6: That's what they say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got that going on. And then you
got what Jonathan Dover said that these things they come
out of the ground man.
Speaker 1: As as as a shadow person like shades.
Speaker 3: It's great. It's crazy, man. So what do you doing
your research? What do you make of all this?
Speaker 6: Really quick?
Speaker 4: You brought that up really quick, Donoke you meet your mike,
because I can hear you actually when I can breathing.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, And I'm glad you brought that
up because that was the next thing I was going
to go into, because after he loses the blessing, you know,
Esau kind of goes into full rebellion, and like you said,
he takes three wives and two of them our Nefflom
Giant from Nephlim Giant tribes writes and Hebbtes and one
of the father in laws mentioned he's a chieftain of
a giant clan and he says he hails from the
land of Mount Sea Air. And when you dive into
the etymology of that name, that means Harry.
Speaker 6: Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that here you have this Harry quote unquote sasquatch
looking guy marrying into Nephlim giant tribes and breeding with them.
And these tribes are already known to be tall and harry. Okay,
so you have a really high likelihood of throwing some
really strange pupps, to say the least.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: And when you follow that genealogy, here's where you get
the famous Amelek, the mighty warrior known for his ruthlessness,
and he bursts the famous tribe that is named after him,
the Amalekites, which when you go into the etymology of
that is even more interesting. And Hebrew, that name means
the blood liquors, so it even has a vamporistic feel
to it. And when you go through the Bible, it
says plainly in there that these were the first people
to attack God's chosen people when they were in their
wilderness wanderings, when they come out of Egypt, and while
they're in their wilderness wanderings. Here's where you get all
your laws from God. You know, do not do this,
do not do that. You don't get rules, laws, regulations
unless those things, those rules, laws and regulations are being broken,
those things are being done. Otherwise there wouldn't be laws
to tell you not to do them to begin with.
And when you go into the writings of like Rashi,
he talks about these Amalekites were known sorcerers, and he
said that's why they were given the command to devote
them to ha Reem. That devoted them to destruction killed
every man, woman, child, and animal. Because they were sorcerers.
They were known to shape shift into animals to evade capture.
So I think we already know from the biblical text
that they were having encounters with these people, these Harry
quote unquote neflem giant tribe of Malakites who interbred with
the Sasquatch people of Esau. We know that they were
sorcerers already. And then you get all these laws and rules.
What are those laws and rules? If you take a
look at them, what does it say, No longer will
you sacrifice to Harry goat demons. I think it's talking
about those Amalakite people. And then it says, no longer
you will not drink the blood the life forces and
the blood. You will not seek necromancers and sorcerers. You
will not pass your chill through the fire. I think
that's all the practices of these Amalekites, and God's people
were seeing them, interacting with them and starting to adopt
some of their practices, and God stepped in its like no, no, no,
you ken't be doing this. And I think the Book
of Isaiah even talks about them, because it says when
you go into the Greek it says that the satyrs
and the wild men will dance in the wilderness and
in the desolate cities. And when they have this epic
war they finally go to battle with these Amalekites, it's
only through the supernatural aid of God and Moses's supernatural
rod that they're even able to beat these Nephelin harry
giant tribe. Because it says, this is that famous story
where Moses has to stand on the mountain and hold
that rod over his head, and when he would grow
tired and lower the rod, it said the Amalekites would
start to win again. So I think there was this
whole supernatural Lord of the Rings battle of the sorcerers
going on underneath those pages that we don't see in
the valley was the war, but the real battle was
Moses up on that mountain with that rod and with
the help of Yahweh. And on the other side of
the mountain was the high priestess or sorcerer of the Amalekites,
and they were doing battle against each other.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1: So that's I think that's why you see all that
stuff you were talking about, you know, Dominic with if
we believe that these are inner bred Nephelum bloodlines, according
to the Book of Enoch, it says that their spirits
are not earthly or heavenly, so they're cursed to wander here.
So of course they're going to take a familiar form
that can explain them phasing in and out of reality.
And if there is maybe a remnant of these people left,
they're known so servers.
Speaker 6: God.
Speaker 4: Really quick, before domin you interject, have you watched that
new show House of David Doc Brown?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: So they just had They just started a new show
called House of David, and it's about David and his
whole journey through the you know, him becoming king. And
that's funny because of recent episode they it's it's the
episode or it's the part in the Bible where they
fight the Amalekites, and the way they're depicted in the
show is there like this this like very heathenistic, cannibal,
immoral tribe and they're all a bunch of like they
look like a bunch of shamans, like like wizards that
So it's kind of crazy, what you that's like the
first show I've ever seen that actually depicts the Bible
the way it would be. You know, some people think Goliath,
oh you know he was he was actually only like
six foot five, No, he was.
Speaker 6: It was way bigger than that.
Speaker 4: So the show really, you know, really gets the grasp
of what the Bible is describing. But all that stuff
you're telling me right now, I'm learning so a dominic
is way more advanced and all this stuff. So Donna,
I would like to you what you have to say
to that you gotta meet yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, there were there were you know, sorcerers back then,
like the Witch of Endoor. There are many sorcerers back
in those times.
Speaker 5: I think that.
Speaker 3: For for bigfoot sasquatch. For me, in my opinion, it
is something it is nepheline because once again, like you
said justin that they got the quality to just like
blink out Man, really strange stuff, and not other animals
that created have that ability. Our dogs, our cats can't
do that as an example.
Speaker 5: But as we.
Speaker 3: As we look forward to this, we see that it
wasn't only the line of Esau here in the Americas,
but there's also the the the redhead giants. There were
the the blonde hair, blue eyes, the Amorites, and so
many other other giants that were around here, and they
were all so evil and and so bloodthirsty. But these
weren't they only net film during the time of Joshua,
he fought all these all these monsters, and he didn't
finish the job. He got too old and eventually he died.
But later on came King David, and he had to
deal with the Philistines, Glithed and his brothers.
Speaker 5: But also.
Speaker 3: When King David was fighting these giant tribes, he had
to deal with the lineman and moab men with faces
like lion. I mean, what is that men with faces,
that lion, so the lionman and Moab. Then he had
the Lineman of God and there's there's I'm building something here.
So we did a show on the Linemen of God
and the Moab with Gary Wayne and I read stuff
from the Bible Gogary the Linemen were any of these
linemen fighting with David? And he said yes, he says,
the Linemen of God answered the Bible. So the Linemen
of God. So does that make And I know some
people in space think that everyone's got their own opinion,
but a lot of people believe that these these netflie.
Speaker 5: When I say Netphilie, I'm talking.
Speaker 3: About all of them talking about goat man, dog man,
uh rakes and whatever man, whatever's out there. When you
look at the Linemen of God, if they were friendly
and fighting with King David, does that mean they could
be redeemed? I don't know, man, because if they don't
have a spirit from God, that's only something God can answer.
Like with Bigfoot and dog Man, I think that thing
is just whatever it is, it's it's it comes back
from the ancient times, like what was the guy's name
that Marco Polo or something goes way back.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, even Christopher Columbus, what do you call Christopher Columbus?
And just the conquistadors in general, and then what's the
other guy that conquered the world, Alexander the Great. They
all talked about seeing and even capturing these dog headed
men like it was a fact, you know.
Speaker 3: And so for me, my thing is and just just
my opinion. I think studying these things Bigfoot and dog
matts is interesting, but I think as believers in Christ,
we should be careful not to fall too deep into
that rabbit hole when we start getting like, you know,
our lives are just anian Gata was thinking about these
things and.
Speaker 5: So interesting.
Speaker 3: These things are interreventional, like got here not too far away?
We have Yucca Valley and Joshua Tree, right, So if
you've been up there, there's nothing out there, there's no
there's no fruit trees, there's no date date palms to
eat dates, there's no there's nothing out there to eat.
But people see the Yukaman, which is another version of Bigfoot.
So where in the heck is this big thing getting
finding it sustidance up there? It's got to be going
somewhere else to eat. And just so this stuff is
also for me. This stuff is all spiritual, it's all
roally spiritual, and I think we have to be careful.
We did an interview with with j W. James Williams,
and he talked about something that I never heard about.
He talked about that infrasound that people hear on these creatures.
You maybe heard about it justin and he said, what
that is. It's a it's a spirit of that thing
hitting you. And he says, that's why some people, not everybody,
but some people have shadow people in their homes after
experiencing a big foot or dogmatage, and that because they
have this demonic minions around them and they're the whole,
the whole hitchhiker thing. They come and they follow you,
and that's why these people make documentaries about these things.
They say, oh, ah, man, you know I heard something
banging on my wall last night, or or I saw
a shadow person in my room or a mist or
because they're dalbling into something they don't understand and they
don't and this is my opinion, did they get permission
from Christ or are calling to do this? Or are
the even followers of Christ? Because in my opinion that
followers a Christ. I don't think anything's gonna happen to
them because these things already have them spiritually. But for
a believer in Christ who goes out there and does
these things, the Bible says we should not seek these
things out. And I believe when some some believers do that,
and you hear it all the time, man, it's not
not not news, but they get they get bombarded with
shadow people and and sleap paralysis and after going out
and looking for these things and seeing one or hearing one.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, justin what do you think about?
That's that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I definitely agree. Especially I went to
I spoke at a conference back in October at the
uh the land between the Lakes of Kentucky, and you
know that place is known for its scrypted activity, and
did a presentation on this book before I published it.
And Vicky was a speaker there too, and she came
and she did a presentation on phil Bader, the Greek
god of dreams and nightmares, and she spoke just specifically
on exactly what you talked about, and it was really good.
And that was one of those things that I already
kind of knew in my heart of hearts, but never
really just really sit down and thought it out thoroughly,
you know, and fleshed it out. But she did a
really good job with that, and she said, you know
exactly what you were saying. She was like, you know,
we're to expose the darkness, and you know, we're supposed
to do these things, she said, but she said, you
have to be you know, called to do it, and
you have to be preyed up to do it because
you are seeking these things out and you're going to
get attachments, and you're you're coming at them trying to
expose them, they're going to come at you. And like
you said, you know, there's this old saying in the South.
You know, I'm from the hills of East Tennessee. We're
a bunch of hillbillies over here. So we're all about
some you know, good old boy logic and some phrases,
you know. But one of the things that I've heard
since I was a kid was if you've never met
the devil face to face, it's because you're walking in
the same direction, you know. And like you said, if
you're a not believer, yeah, you're good because they got
you right where they want you anyway. And I'm sure
you guys can vouch just even doing something as simple
as we're doing. You know, we're not going out and
trying to cast out demons and hunt cryptids and do
paranormal research and stuff like that. We're just exposing the
darkness and talking about it on podcasts. But I think
I can speak for all three of us here. We've
encountered some heavy spiritual warfare just by talking about these things.
So I can only imagine what kind of mess you'd
be stepping into, you know, actually physically going out after
these things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially, yeah, especially if you're open to it, especially
if you're if you're one of those people that you know,
because a lot of these people think that, oh you know,
you know, they're just you know, if your night's they
are going to be your friend. I mean, come on, man,
these things that I tell you apart your stories all
the time, but people getting torn apart or you see bears,
a bear being killed by these things. The funny thing is,
I I just did a podcast a couple of months
ago my friend Greg. He went through some crazy stuff
as a child, sra, satanic abuse, the whole nine.
Speaker 6: Man, a really good guy, and I came out of it.
Speaker 5: I believe.
Speaker 6: Greg.
Speaker 4: Yes, Greg, you know I'm talking about Yeah, yeah, no, no, No,
he's not a doctor, though it might be a different one.
But anyways, he lived out and I think it was
Washington out. You know, we're in the forest on the hills.
And he told me, because this guy's seen a lot
of things, man, But anyways, he was he was driving out,
you know, on the road, you know those roads. It's
like he's only two ways, like in the movies, you
have all these pine trees. He said if he saw
a massive bear running down a hill, and he said
he was looking at what is that?
Speaker 6: Is that a bear? Yes, a bear?
Speaker 4: And then the bears running like for its life and
then he looks behind its a big foot chasing it,
and you know, and the image of have in my head.
It's just so crazy because a bear is such a
fierce animal, it's not really scared of anything, and and
just to like just imagine that this thing is so
intimidating that a bear is running for its life. So
this whole thing got even crazier. So that bear ran
across the street and it got smacked by by what
do you call it?
Speaker 6: A diesel truck? Boom hit that thing? He said.
Speaker 4: After that, he said the bigfoot stopped, and they said
it walked around.
Speaker 6: And when it was walking, it was passing trees.
Speaker 4: And it says when it passed like three or four trees,
it just disappeared, you know, kind of there's a tree
here and you see it walking, it doesn't come out
the other side. So like and this is like and
you know, I interviewed about twenty people that said they
seen bigfoot, and none of these people know each other,
all different ages, all different you know views, and they
all say the same thing. They disappear there. You know,
they can cloak themselves. Like Dominic said, was I think
if ron morlready said he got a you know, they
find a piece of hair of evidence of it, and
it said, like the hair see through kind of kind
of like a you know, a polar bear. Polar bears
are not actually white, they're just like you know, they
actually black. But the hair, he said, it was like
almost the same kind of kind of texture for the hair.
So what do you think about that? Justin it's a
wild story, right.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, I mean that would definitely make you not
want to go for a walk in the woods for
a while, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Oh and let me get even more so, he said,
because he lived out there for a while. He said
one day he was this was after he saw the Bigfoot.
He said, one day he was walking around the woods,
you know, with his dog doing his thing. And he said,
I have pictures, so I can send him to just
remind me. I have pictures of all this stuff. He
sent me, and he said he found like this, like
this little area where there wasn't too many trees, like
an open area, and he said there was animal bones
all like stacked up in a very nice neat way,
like there was like, you know, I forgot what he said.
I think there were like deers or something like that,
deers and dogs and fox heads skulls all stacked up,
the skulls and then around it were just like the
bone making like a like a circle.
Speaker 6: And he's out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4: Okay, there's nobody around there by him, like the nearest neighbors,
Like it's like three hundred acres away. So I mean,
in his opinion, he's like, you know, it's just the
big Foot. It is just like you know, the so
kind of ritual. Maybe they summoned it. I mean, who knows,
you ever heard of anything like that.
Speaker 1: I've heard stories and stuff. But one thing that I
found researching this is and I argue that I think
that we see remnants of it throughout history. And like
the the theory of entropy, you know, you cannot negate entropy.
I mean we can visually see that every single day.
You know, nothing gets better with time, it gets worse
with time. You set an apple out on your kitchen table,
within a couple of weeks, that thing's gonna start to rot,
you know, and you're gonna get gnats and your bones,
your body starts to break down, DNA starts to break down. Interbreeding,
you know, dilutes the gene pool. You know, you guys
mentioned Gary Wayne, so I'm sure you just had several
conversations with him about the royal bloodlines and how they
kept interbreeding with each other to try to keep the
bloodline pure. But as you interbreed, you kind of breed
out certain genetics. And I think that's kind of what's
going on here. And even you get hints of this.
I think in movies, Hollywood, you know, the people that
are in the know kind of give you hints of
the truth. I reference it in the book, but back
in the eighties that remember that teen wolf Michael J.
Speaker 6: Fox. Yes, yeh, that's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's another hint at this wild
man because he starts going through this change, right, And
remember he keeps fighting it off by splashing water on
his face, like only his hand would turn but then
he'd get to stop. His eyes would turn yellow and
he'd get him to stop. But the first night he
actually like fully wolfs out. It's a full moon, and
he remember, he runs upstairs and his dad's sitting in
the recliner and he runs by him, runs upstairs and
goes in there and slams the bedroom door and he
ends up wolfing completely out, and his dad's beating.
Speaker 5: On the door.
Speaker 1: He's like, son, you've been acting real strange lately. What's
going on?
Speaker 5: Let me in.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, Dad, No, He's like, son, let me in.
He's like, no, you don't want to see me like this.
He's like, son, you know there's nothing you can do
to make me not love you, you know, open the door.
And he's like okay, you asked for it, you remember that.
And he opens the door and there's this old man
standing fully wolfed out. He's like, holy shit, Dad, he
didn't tell me, you know, he's freaking out. And he
was like, son, sometimes this thing was He say, it
skips generations. Oh, we were hoping that it skipped you.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that we actually see, man.
And when you actually go through history, there's historically and
scientifically documented people that have this thing that the scientists
have labeled hypertrixosis, where they're born covered in hair from
head to toe like a Harry Cloak. And some people
call him the wolf man or the bearded lady. These
are the people that got put in freak shows. One
famous prime example is Luis Gomez from I think it
was Spain. But he basically was sold to the king
as like a toy for entertainment at ten years old.
But the king like fell in love with this little
boy and raised him as his son, and he went
to the finest schools. He went to school and became
a lawyer. All the paintings, he looks just like Michael J.
Fox's dad. He wolfed out, but dressed as a nobleman.
He lived a good life. But when the king died,
he wrote in his will that this guy was going
to get a piece of land, a title, a castle.
They arranged for him a marriage. So he married this
woman had four kids, which I think three of them
ended up getting the same thing, and two of them
were girls. So there's two little girls in pink dresses
covered in hair from head to toe. And they theorized
that the story of the Beauty and the Beast was
based off of this marriage between this Gomez guy and
this woman. And so you see all this stuff. I mean,
it's scientifically documented and yeah, and so like when you
go to China you got the urine. You go to
Europe they call it the wild Man. To North America
they caught the city car or Bigfoot, and there's remnants
of it everywhere. Europe has a what's that crampus? Yep, right,
you go down to Sardinia. Sardinia they had this archaic
ritual that they do and when you ask the people,
nobody knows where it comes from or where it started.
They said that they just they've done it forever. They
traced it back to like archaic times. But during the
winter solstice. The men cover themselves in black goats fur,
put a wooden mask on their face, a black wooden mask,
and strap copper bells to their back. And it says
they dance through the streets and they abduct and chase
the women and have their way with the women. And
during this festival the children that are coming of age
as like a rite of passage, they light a huge
bonfire and the kids have to pass through the fire.
These are all shouting, echoing back to these amalekots and
these Nippelum giants and these sorcerers and their practices. It
shows you, in my opinion, the migration of these people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to interject on that, Yeah, everything you're saying,
I mean, I agree with everything that you're saying. I
think all these things that you're saying are are one
hundred percent on point. You're connecting all the dots and
just even more so, like the story Beauty and the Beasts,
I mean, like I never really thought to connect all that,
but now that you have me thinking about it, I mean,
that's a children's movie, and nobody ever like questions, well,
this woman is sleeping with a monster, you know what
I mean? Like it's supposed to be a kid show,
and no one really, like, I've never heard anybody say, man,
this is this is a sick movie because I believe
the original story, at the end, he stays a beast,
he doesn't.
Speaker 6: Turn back into the humans.
Speaker 4: So so this is telling us that she's gonna marry
this monster and she's going to be sleeping with them,
you know, doing you know, all the things you do
with the human I think that's kind of sick.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Child book? Remember where the wild
things are?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's another way.
Speaker 1: This kid goes to this land. There's these Harry wild
beasts and what do they do when he washes up
on shore? They try to eat him. They're cannibals.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: And look, here's a picture of a little girl. It's
in my book thinking her newspapers like wolf covered his hair.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, this is.
Speaker 1: A real thing. That's a real picture, right, Yes, it's
out of a newspaper.
Speaker 6: How how long ago was that?
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I got it sited in here.
It was the Star dot com. That's where I got
it from.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy, man, like this stuff.
Speaker 1: Found that there?
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: Make sure that Luis Gome.
Speaker 6: Is gouy Okay, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh wow. So I want to ask your opinion
on something. What do you think? I think his name
is Saint Christopher. He was depicted as a dog headed
person in the pictures. Even his armor that they have
is fixed to fit ahead of a dog.
Speaker 6: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Because that story he was always I mean, some people
say it's an al gore, it's a metaphor.
Speaker 6: So why would they go out of the way to
make this.
Speaker 4: Armor to fit his head in his face and paint
him as a dog. Every description of him is some
kind of dog headed person. And it goes back to
Dominan's question, can the Netfluine be saved? Because if this
story is true and he's a dog man, I believe it.
I believe he gets saved and he becomes a saint, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know honestly that I've not looked into that. I've heard
the story and I've seen the pictures, but that's something
I've never honestly looked into. So, I mean, I have
no idea on the story. I don't even know really
the baseline. I just I've overheard in circles and seeing,
like you know, through scrolling and stuff that there was
a saint depicted like with a dog head, but it
really took the time to look into it.
Speaker 4: You should really look into that. It is so interesting.
I could just tell that you're gonna like it, but
I'll give you a quick summary. So basically, this this
dog headed person, his mission was to worship the most
powerful God. And really quick he what he assumed in
the world. He's like, Okay, Satan must be the most
powerful God because you know, when something bad happens, God
doesn't come down and stop it, you know what I mean.
That was just thought, Oh, you know, if God is
so powerful, I can do this and I can do that,
and God's not going to stop me.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Satan allows me to do what I want. But then
there's a I forgot exactly what happens to him. But
something happened to him where he called on the name
of God and everything and whatever was happened, something evil
was about to happen to him. I think it was
a spiritual and it went away. It seized it. So
and that moment he had a revelation. He's like, Okay,
Satan's a very powerful god. This is his world. But
right now this this entity that tried to attack me,
it cowered in fear just to the name. So this
god has to be the god and the most powerful god.
And then from then on he becomes the same he does,
you know. He goes a war, protects the village, all
this stuff, even saves a little boy drownning in the river.
Speaker 6: He holds him on his back. And then that's another
one too.
Speaker 4: So he saves a little boy and he's walking in
this river and it's it's going really hard and he's
he's trying to get across and the boy feels heavy,
super heavy on him.
Speaker 6: So he's walking in there and he's like, man, why
is this kid so heavy?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big you know, he's the way
he depicts is like seven feet tall of this thing.
And long story short, he ends up finding out that
it was some that was God on his back in
the form of a child, and he was like, you know,
giving him some kind of a parable.
Speaker 6: But yeah, he should check it out, dude, Right, Yeah,
dominic what you got to it's definitely interesting, Dominique. You're Mike,
So they're going, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was thinking about when when people go out there and
look for bigfoot.
Speaker 5: They come upon.
Speaker 3: These rock structures, these rocks, you know, they're all they're.
Speaker 6: All rocks, like those balanced rocks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they make a little mound of them, right.
And you see a lot of people that that that
find these things out when they're looking for this monster.
They'll leave you know, like a protein bar or a
drink or you know, a piece of chicken or something.
And that's another thing that that I learned that we
learned from James Williams. He says, these stone structures are
altars that they build for you to bring your paint
homage to him. Maybe it's a it's a it's a
passage to their land that they want you to leave
something for them, something to eat, a deer carcass or
or something. He says, these things are altars, and this
back all into the Old Testament, you know, the building
of altars and sacrifices and stuff. So, I mean that's
a big rabbit hole. I mean, who are you giving
these sex these these these you know, if it's not
an animal killed, if it's something you're paying homage by
bringing them food, you know, apples, whatever. There's something greater
than these bigfoots or dog mans. That they they're under
their authority, under their power, and these altars are the
way to pay homage to this this entity was you know,
in my pain, more like his Satan or his dominions
and his minions. So I thought that I'd throw that
out there for people who are who are looking for
these things. Man, if you're a believer in Christ, don't
be doing that unless you want these things to you know,
these these shadow people and demons that follow you back
at your house and you know, knock you around at
night and script pound on your door and slap you
upside the head, because man, they do that. I mean,
since we've been doing this podcast, I've been attacked a
few times. Last time I was attacked was a month ago.
Two months ago. Something just a force just hit me
outside of the head.
Speaker 5: Boom. It wasn't a punch, a solid punch.
Speaker 3: It's more of a solid push and dude, my my,
my head right here, my neck.
Speaker 5: Curve forct three days.
Speaker 3: And those are the things that when you're exposing darkness,
like Vicky Joyce says, you know you're gonna you're gonna
get attacked because you know, Satan don't like that. You know,
if you don't believe in God. He don't care. You
can do whatever you want. He's happy you and not
believing in anything. Yeah, So what do you think about
the the altars?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a wild concept and it's probably I mean,
it makes sense. I mean because these were you know,
if it fouls in line with kind of what I
was talking about, if they are spiritual now, I mean
they were physical once. And if they were you know,
these nephilemic sorcery you know style people, they had their
altars and you know, according to the Bible, they were
passing children through the fire and drinking the blood and
doing these necromantic sorceres type stuff and having these ritual pits.
I mean, they're you know, I don't think it's out
of the question or out of line to think that
they would be doing you know, familiar things.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I actually have a friend that I just met
this year that he's a real big bigfoot enthusiast and
he's always out in the woods and looking for these
things and videotaping it and having cameras on his back
and you know, in front of him. And uh, he's
gotten some really wild pictures and videos and like you
said I was. I was never a Bigfoot enthusiast, even
like even now. I mean I wrote a book, you know,
with my hypothesis, you know, saying that this guy sounds
like a Bigfoot, and kind of done some research and stuff,
but it was armchair research, you know, reading. I knew
the stories of Bigfoot, but it was just kind of
a blanket thirty thousand foot view of Bigfoot in Sasquatch.
I was never an enthusiast. I never read all the books.
I didn't watch all the shows and listen to all
the podcast encounters. I was a generalist, you know, to
just basically say it. But talking to him, I don't
know if it was how everybody sees it or if
I was just seeing it from this spiritual lens. But
I always thought that Sasquatch was a physical thing. It
was a you know, a gigantopithecus how they say, you know,
this ape thing left over from ancient times. But once
I talked to Harley and he was telling me his
experiences and show me his pictures. I mean, you clearly
see something in the woods, but it looks like a
shadow figure, and like he's got pictures like it looks
like a big, hairy like humanoid head but covered in
hair and big old eyes, and it's like it's peering
around a tree at you, and it's kind of like
halfway see through. And it's without fail, it's always on
his back camera. Oh wow, every time he has something
in front and he's looking. He says, I never catch
nothing justin he said, I never physically see it with
my eyes. He said, it's after I get home and
I start scrubbing through the video footage with my camera.
He said that I find this stuff and it's it's
pretty wild.
Speaker 5: All the difference.
Speaker 1: He always circles it in red and blows it up
and shows you. I mean, and I told him, like, man,
to me, everything that you've told me and what I
see that this is like a spiritual thing.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 4: And I would even go even more so to say
that a lot of these people, let's just even if
you're a Christian, I mean, this stuff could like uh,
it's like a spell because it could take you out
of your focus. And like, like I said, I was
talking to James Williams and I bring him up because
this guy has I mean, he's gone out there and
done all this stuff and he's the one told us
not to do it because this. But he made a
really good point, he said, he said, with all the
people he's talking to and people he's worked with, he says,
they've they have evidence that Bigfoot and dog Man Israel,
Like it is real. Like he said, one hundred percent,
we have evidence. And he said, but nobody cares to
see the evidence. And and I kind of like it.
Kind of him was like that that is true because
a lot of people. We have the footprints, we have
the hair, we have I mean, we have like body
parts of these things, so you know, and and nobody
cares about the evidence. And and he would just kind
of say, like that's when you know, like you're in
the spell because you you've gone down. I'm the rabbit
hole of looking for this thing to see if it's real.
You know what's real. You have the evidence, So why
are we still you know, like you know, pretending like
it's not really Get what I'm saying kind of thing
like like does that make any sense to me? Like
he was saying that like a lot of people don't
want to see the evidence. They just want to keep
looking for it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to kill the mystery. Well, there's
like probably a fifty people want there's a part of
them that don't want to kill the mystery, and then
there's another half that's like they're Reggie the realists. They're like,
I'm not going to believe it until you produce an
actual live creature in a cage or a dead body.
If you if you catch one alive or you produce
a dead body, then I'll be a believer.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: So I think that you kind of got like a
fifty to fifty split with a lot of people. But
there's another element to this that I discovered reading this book,
and it's a controversial thing. So I mean, every time
I talk about this, I always preface it with people
you know. Uh. But when you get into the like
the serpent seed doctrine, a lot of people when they
hear that, they think of the Gnostics, because the Gnostics
took that and perverted it and made it their own.
And then like the Nazis, uh, the Aryan Brotherhood. There's
lots of racist organizations that even took this theory and
twisted it to their own perverted you know means. But
this was a Jewish doctrine. It's an ancient Jewish doctrine.
And it wasn't until I was studying this that this
subject matter led into the serpent seed doctrine, and that
blew my mind. And I never looked into it ever
because a lot of people that I talked to and
highly respected, like doctor Judd Burton, uh, doctor Michael Heiser,
all these guys, they laughed at it and it was like,
it's bunk. It ain'ty worth looking at you know, I
just took their word for it, you know, I never
looked at it. So but once I started reading this
and looking I found that whether you know, we can
argue all day long if it was physically true, if
it was you know, spiritually true, or even if it
was just an allegory that the authors were writing to
make a theological point. You know, I'm not dogmatic, but
I think one thing that we cannot refute is that
the ancient belief of the writers was that Esau was
of a serpent seed. Because when I got to reading, like,
for instance, that the Targets of Jonathan, this was the
first translation out of the original language. A lot of
people don't realized that it predates the Greek and granted
all cards on the table. This is not a proper translation,
per se. A translation is just word for word. You know,
this writer added in commentary and his thoughts and beliefs.
But if you are going to get a commentary and
someone's thoughts, beliefs and opinions me as like a researcher
point of view. I want it to be someone from
that time, you know what I mean. I don't want
commentary and research and opinions of somebody two thousand years
later that wasn't even there.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, but in that Targets of Jonathan, he says that
when Rebecca was pregnant, that when she would walk by
a house that served Yahweh, that Jacob would stir in excitement,
But when she would walk by a house that served
a pagan god, that Esau would stir with excitement wow.
And that when they were born that Esau had a
serpents marking on his body. He had a serpent's brand.
And it said that Jacob had a guardian angel, and
it was Gabriel, but Esau his guardian angel was sam
i l, which was Satan's name before the fall. According
to the ancient Jewish belief, and uh, just finding all
this little stuff, you know, it was just all new
to me. And so just reading in that and finding
all that stuff out. So, like I said in the beginning,
I'm not saying this is thus Saith the Lord here,
but it's it was the belief of the people of
the time. So it's another angle to look at this.
You have this Harry quote unquote Sasquatch guy that mirrors
and looks identical to these Harry's fertility gods of the region.
Like I mentioned, how I thought the epic of Gilgamesh
earlier lines up perfectly parallel with the Book of Jasher
because a lot of historians align Gilgamesh with Nemrod. Anyway, Yeah,
and you look at inky Do and Esau, they're mirrored
images of each other. And in both of those stories
there's this epic battle the two mighty men clash. The
only difference is the Mesopotamian version where Gilgamesh slash Nimrod
come from says that their guy won and they become
good friends and go on all these epic journeys together,
where the Book of Jasher came from the Jewish perspective,
and their guy one chopped off his head and stole
his basically stole his crown. And in the Gilgamesh Epic
when it's talking about Inky Do, it says that he
was made in the image of sam Quain. And so
when I got to looking up this Sampwaine god, he
was worshiped in the land of Haran, and this is
where Rebecca came from. And Samquaine was covered in hair
from head to toe like a Harry cloak. And he
was a fertility god and a god of cattle. So,
you know, so if you take that him marrying into
these Nephelim giant tribes, interbreeding with them, the Amalekites who
were blood liquors, the targets of Jonathan, and the Legends
of the Jews, with Lewis Ginsburg talking about him possibly
being a serpent seed, it's a very interesting rabbit hole
to go down. And even Lewis Ginsburg, he wrote a
seven book series of books called the Legends of the Jews.
Speaker 6: I'm reading that right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome, man. You know, whether it's all true
or not, hey debatable, but hey, it's stories and legends
that were being passed around at that time. And even
the stories with Esau and there is fascinating. It talks
about that, you know, when he found out that Jacob
screwed him out of his birthright, you know. And Genesis
it just says he gets mad and says he's going
to kill his brother, and they tell him to go
to the land of Ran and hide to his brother's wrath.
Subsides well the legends of the Jews. It says that
he threatens to kill his brother, but he says, I
will slay him, not with sword nor bow. He said,
I will bite his neck and drain him of his
blood and bite him until he is dead. So you
got this, I am puristic feel tool that they painted. Man.
I mean, it's just really awesome to go through all
these old texts and rediscover all this old loss for
forgotten stories.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that book is that book here. I'm still
on the first one, but it's a yeah. It gives
a lot of detail. Like the book starts off like
the Bible in the beginning, this this and that, but
it goes into detail with the creation. It even tells
you how big the ferming it is. It says it's
three fingers thick, you know, you know that part says,
so all the water, according to the legend of the Jews,
we're on a we're in an enclosed dome, and all
that heavy water, you know, that's stopping us from being destroyed.
Speaker 6: Is this thick?
Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty crazy, you know, all that
stuff it says in there, it's really wild. But you know,
in my heart, I mean, I don't know if it's
true or false, but I'm leaning towards like I can
get some good reference machill from it. At least, you know,
fill in the gaps, you.
Speaker 1: Know, legend or mythology. He has a kernel of truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So reading like the extra apocryphal books, like
like I read the whole Pokraphy already. I'm starting on
the Legend of the Jews and I'm also starting to
read them. But it's a really big book that I'll
probably never finish. It is the Jewish historian I forgot
his name of his book. Yes, I just started on
that one too, So I'm going back and forth between
Legend of the Jews and Josephus. And I mean a
lot of people say you're not allowed to read this stuff,
but I think that's just nonsense, because I'm learning more
like all the gaps that that we don't get like
for example, oh, Esan Jacob got mad at each other.
Oh like okay, why And then you get to read
these extra apocryphal books and you get more detail in it.
I mean, even the Book of Josher says that an
angel came at one point to protect Jacob. And remember
that part in Joshure the angel actually went to Esan
his army and said, if you guys lay one finger
on them, kill all of you.
Speaker 6: That's what the angel said.
Speaker 4: That's that's like awesome, like you know, we want I
would love to know that, and I do know it now,
and it's and you know, I think it's great. I
think it's epic, you know. So yeah saying, so.
Speaker 6: What do you think, Dominic, You've been quiet over there.
Speaker 5: I'm just listening, man.
Speaker 3: I think as we get further, you know, in the future,
I think we're gonna start seeing more of these cryptids.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we start.
Speaker 3: Seeing more, you know, these dog man, goat man, bigfoot,
and and you know it may be maybe other ways
of people to worship other other things, other entities of
their gods. And you know, that's just my my theory
on that. I think people will start worshiping more of
these these cryptids and even the the so called space aliens,
which I know they're in my opinon they're not. They'revery interdimensional.
They're all they're all, they're all cut from the same
sheet man, the same cloth.
Speaker 4: And I would even going say that people say they
see u of fos beaming down bigfoots.
Speaker 6: I mean, have you heard about.
Speaker 1: The sense of God checking on their pieces and nephews
and my people?
Speaker 6: Have you heard of that?
Speaker 4: Though I have many stories where where there's UFOs, there's bigfoots.
You mentioned that, Yeah, Ron Moore said that, and some
one of the guests I talked to he said that
he saw a dogment in Bigfoot and a gray alien
all right there by the UFO just all whatever they're doing,
you know, the Unholy Trinity right there. I mean, you know,
I mean, what do you got to say about that?
I'm like, I'm glad I have you on the show
because I got to ask you because I have no
one else that really thinks like this.
Speaker 6: But what do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Like that's a big that's a big deal because when
you think of when I think about Bigfoot, I think
about this thing that's just this big ape and I
don't I never would think that there will be anything
technologically connected to it.
Speaker 6: Does that make any sense?
Speaker 4: Like I would never think of Bigfoot because when I
think about it, I think about living in a cave
and it's going out and just you know, eating things
like an animal, you know.
Speaker 6: Not cooking in all that stuff.
Speaker 4: But then when I hear that these things are in
UFOs and they're interacting with these other creatures, it just
tells me that that we're looking at a whole different
kind of beast here, you know what I mean. It's
something with very extremely sentient like intelligence, way more smarter
than us. I would say, if it knows, it knows
how to work, or you a foe, I mean, if
it can fly you a foe, you know what I mean. Like,
it has to be something a little more than just
some cannibalistic creature I just want to eat people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same story. It's just you know, different
caveats and different to verbage. Because I mean, think about it,
all the ancient legends, religions throughout the world, throughout history,
throughout time, something whatever you want to call it, something
comes from this guy comes to humanity, presents itself as superior,
dominates or is given dominion. One of the two. It's
either given dominion or it takes it, and it bestows
upon it advanced technology and wisdom and forbidden knowledge, and
they enter breed. That's a common story throughout the world,
throughout the ages. You can put whatever verbiage you want
to it, whatever name, it's the same story. You know,
Solomon said it best nothing new was under the sun.
These aliens, these you know, space beings, like Dominic said,
it's the same story as the rebellious sons of God.
And they're presenting themselves in a modern way that we
will accept. And so in the days of Noah, it says,
you know, as it was in the days of Noah,
so it shall be in the coming of the Son
of Man. And that day they come down, they presented
themselves as God, as gods, they were worshiped. They gave
us knowledge and technology and forbidden knowledge, and took our
women to enter bread with us, and advanced quote unquote
our civilization and our species. And they will again.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I wanted to ask you a question. This is
one I've been wanting to ask you. This whole show
finally got back to my head. So with the big
Foot in your opinion, do you think the ones that
are out right now alive roaming this earth, do you
think they are these creatures that have been around they're
really ancient and old, and maybe they live a thousand
years like they did back before the flood, or or
you know, it could be a family that's been breeding
for the generations and still alive. Or do you think
the ones that are now here today are a product
of human creation like finding the bones and you know,
cloning these things to bring them back out.
Speaker 6: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think it's a shmortgage board of all those things.
Since you just said, I think that it's a possibility
there is some ancient remnant left because think about we've
explored what maybe two to three percent of the cave
systems on Earth. The whole globe is covered in it.
They know it like the back of their hands. And
one example I given the book is the Chinese panda.
For centuries, people told mythologies and made up legends and
stories about this white bear in the wilderness of China,
and everybody said, oh, it's fake, it's a cryptid, it's
like Bigfoot, it's not real. It wasn't until lasting, you know,
one hundred and fifty years or so, that they actually
discovered one and showed that this myth was fact. And
anybody that has been around a panda, they're not smart creatures.
So if they could avoid being captured and kill and
documented for thousands of years up until that point, I
don't think it's out of the question to think that
a quote unquote mighty hunter of the field, like the
predator covered in hair, a master of their domain with
human intelligence, possibly you know, a byproduct of a fallen
son of God, extreme intelligence, technology and even sorcery. You know,
if they descended from the Amalekites and had this forbidden
knowledge from their ancestors, could avoid capture and being seen
roaming under the ground beneath our feet and inner breeding.
And then at the same time, maybe it's a good
possibility that some of our scientists or somebody has found
some bonds or DNA. You have the Dysovians and all
these other they call Preadamite race people that were you know,
huge and different and bigger and giants that they have
done some cloning, and there might be you know, some
remnant of that DNA strand amongst us and them playing
with it, and then at the same time, the spiritual side,
the ones that died and their spirits are left to rome,
you know, phasing in and out of reality and manifesting
and doing the things that we see. I know, I
know that's probably not the solid answer that some people
look for, but it's never that cut and dry. It's
it's usually not this or that. It's this, this, this,
and sometimes that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely right. I just wanted to see where you're
coming from. And your answer is one hundred percent what
I think, it thinks a little bit of both and
and I don't think it's an append I think it's
the fact, because you know, it is not a secret.
Speaker 6: It's not a secret anymore.
Speaker 4: In the past like five years, many countries have come
out and said that that they're not leading making cameras
in labs to to grow organs to help humans. But
you know, you know they're if they're telling us this,
they've already been growing and for who knows how many years.
And you know, they say by law they have to
kill the embryo after like three months or something like
that because of whatever whatever reason.
Speaker 6: But I mean, we're not done.
Speaker 4: We know they're letting these things grow up in some
tests and they're just seeing what they're doing, probably releasing
these things in the wild to see what happens. And
you know, and also too, you always see the all
the news these weird looking creatures that wash up shore,
you know, like the formed creatures, and those are they're
probably those are the bodies. They're probably just throwing away
after they do whatever whatever they do. You know, kind
of what's that movie called again where he's making all
those half human animals a doctor I have doctor Moreau.
I mean that right there can be no can be
too farther from the truth. I really think that that's
going on right now. There's like a whole race for
the for the super soldier super soldiers too. You have
every nation.
Speaker 1: Red neck farmer out west that got busted and was
in all the major news. Just a year ago, me
and my buddies from the dig Bible podcast did an
episode on it and put it on our YouTube channel.
I think we called it the Frankin Sheep.
Speaker 5: But there was a.
Speaker 1: Guy out in Montana, old man, like seventy something year
old man got busted. Some scientists out there in Turkey
had discovered the bones of this extinct race of ram,
and it was like six foot at the shoulder on
ram horns as wire as a truck. And they found
live DNA and blood tissue on this carcass, this skeleton,
and they extracted samples and they were selling it on
the black market. And this old man out in Montana
somehow got access to it and was cloning and cross
breeding with modern rams and making these you know, six
foot at the shoulder freaking rams like with orangs as
why as a mack truck and stalking his land with it.
And he put fences around it and it was just
you know, hundreds of acres and he made like a
Jurassic Park style hunting ground for the rich elites. This
is the only place in the world and you could
hunt this exotic sheep and kill one and get it
mounted on your wall, and people from all over the
world would go there and pay hundreds of thousands of
dollars because it was the only place in the world
that you could get it, and you'd go there and
you'd hunt. It was really lucrative. And he got busted
and it was I mean, it made a global news
and so if some redneck, some seventy year old seventy
eighty year old redneck from Montana's doing this, you can
imagine what our governments are doing.
Speaker 4: Bro that story right there. You said that's so casually.
My mind is blown. You need to send me the
links and everything so that I just wrote it down
my phone. That is insane. Is there pictures of these
things on the internet? You can look at these things.
Speaker 1: I think that so they went in and shut down
his ranch and convicted him and everything. I mean it
made global news. I think there's pictures of hunters holding
the horns of these things. And the bodies. I mean,
it looks like they're it looks like a bull.
Speaker 6: Wow. And what was I gonna say?
Speaker 4: So when you said six feet at the shoulders, you
mean it's six feet wide?
Speaker 1: I mean like tall.
Speaker 6: Oh oh, that's why.
Speaker 4: That's huge too, because I'm standing up.
Speaker 6: That's huge, man, that's a huge.
Speaker 1: Don't vote me on the number. I mean, I might
be exaggerating. It's been a year, but either way, I
mean this.
Speaker 6: Is the way huge. Yeah, it sounds weird, but this
is a.
Speaker 1: Goat or ram the size of a freaking full grown bull.
Speaker 4: That's again those things charged too. That's scary, man, I
never heard that. I'm definitely gonna look into that. I
want to do a podcast on it, Dominic, what do
you think about That's wild?
Speaker 6: That's absolutely insane.
Speaker 5: Hey man, Desa Noah all over again. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was I think it was the
late Scott Carpenter that said that the government, the black
Ops have a place, you an underground basis called the zoo,
where they're creating these these hybrid cryptids.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, yeah, that's true, that's very true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all this stuff is going on for a while now,
all these cameras that they're making, you know, they're doing
it in Mexico, they're doing in the UK, they're doing
it in China, they're doing in Japan, and it's just
gonna keep going and before you know it, these things
are going to be walking among us.
Speaker 6: We're going to be, you know, cyborg genetic freaks pretty much.
Speaker 4: I think the market of the piast is going to
be similar to that, and it's going to change our
human a, our human DNA forever. And I believe if
you're no longer human, you're no longer accepted to be
saved in the Kingdom of Heaven with Jesus Christ. So
that's my opinion right there. I think, I think all
this is going to come to a very big peaking point.
I think there'll even be a time where there'll be
a great perch. I think it'll be like the regular
humans versus the hybrid humans, and there's going to be
like a kind of like a like a division. I
think this division will be manufactured through the media and
through politicians all that stuff, and there's gonna be like
some kind of division war. I think, Oh wow, like
all big those things out which one whoa.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Montana Rancher eighty pleads guilty to creating huge frankin sheep
out of cloned Marco Polo ram Seamen Marco.
Speaker 4: Wow, is there any pictures of a real one? Let
me see, I want to see this thing looks like
that one looks a little average size, but let me
see that's a big head. Can compare that to the
thing in the back of the big barrels.
Speaker 1: The picture that I had found when we've done the episode, See,
that's that's probably a juvenile. The picture that I had
seen there was a hunter holding the horns of it,
and it was laying beside of him, and this thing
was like the size of a freaking bull.
Speaker 4: That's wild that this guy was just doing it is
probably making them hundreds of thousands of dollars doing this.
Oh that big oldhead right there, that's huge horns, man. Yeah,
we have rams out here where we live, and even
some of these pictures are showing their horns.
Speaker 6: Don't get that big.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've seen of course, you know how Google,
as you search up something, it just brings up a
bunch of random stuff.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm definitely gonna look it up and find
some pictures. You just got to be more specific when
you look up giant sheep, franking sheep, Like, if you
google that and I'll probably pop up. Let me say,
can find it out frameing giant sheep, real picks.
Speaker 6: Let me see something should pop up? I hope So
I would love to see that for the audience too. Yeah.
Oh here's why right here, and you see me look
at this one with the guy holding it. Yeah that's
pretty big. Yeah, the horns right there.
Speaker 4: I just I just I just googled the giant frankin
sheep Montana and then it just pops up with that
guy holding it. But yeah, dude, I'm looking at some
of these pictures. Then if any of these one of
these pictures was huge. But I'm gonna look into it more.
But that was a really interesting story, man. That's pretty wild.
That's really wild.
Speaker 1: That the YouTube channel that we've done that on, it
was the Big Bible Podcast. We did an episode and
I pulled up the article that popped up because it
was it had just come out in the news like
the day before. But he Steven shared it with me,
Frank and Sheep the Big Bible Podcast, and we actually
pulled up the article and showed it on the YouTube
channel and scrolled through and I'm pretty sure in there
it was a picture of a hunter that just killed
one and laid out. It was bigger than heim.
Speaker 4: That's just crazy, man, all this stuff, like so many
things are happening right now around as we do even
know my neighbor might be growing some kind of weird creature.
Speaker 6: We just don't know what's going on anymore.
Speaker 4: Now that we have access to crispur nine technology, you
can just order these kids online for eight hundred bucks
and you can make yourself glow in the dark if
you want. I mean, this stuff is getting too it's
getting too free, it's getting too easy, it's too accessible,
and I just think this is alchemy all over again,
you know, you know, like back in the old days,
alchemy was more raw.
Speaker 6: It was more about, you know, you could.
Speaker 4: Take a foot and connect it to a you know,
a cat or something, and then do some like science
and a little bit of wishcraft, and everything connects. I
think that's what I think, that's what we're getting to.
We're going to get back to the old days of alchemy,
like the raw, immoral type of science projects. Now, not
that they're not like that now, but you know what
I mean, it's going to be like you it's gonna
be like your neighbor's going to be doing this in
the garage if they're not already.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and four, wasn't it when they announced like
the first cloned sheep?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Stuff is with technology. You know, we the public are
at least, you know, thirty to fifty years behind, you know,
the government. So it's like if they were announcing it
in four, they were probably successfully doing it back in
the early nineties. So it's like you can imagine what
they're doing right now.
Speaker 6: And was it during World War One? Two?
Speaker 4: They you know, they caught that Nazi scientist and he
cut the head off of a dog and he kept
the head of life like two three days, and then
he cut a head off of a monkey, put on
another monkey thing lived for a week. And this is
in the early nineteen hundred. So, like you said, you're
you know, you're being the dead dog here. You know,
this is this has been happening since the beginning of
the time. But just to talk about, you know, more recently,
if they if they can make a doghead live for
for you know, a day or so, just the head
with a bunch of tubes in it or whatever they
were doing, you can look that up too. They have
real pictures of that thing sickening. But yeah, I'm pretty
I'm pretty sure they're like some probably really weird hybrids
walking amongst us. I think some people. I think I
think some people are cyborgs, and I laugh about it,
bump being dead serious, I don't think. I think there's
a lot of people walking on this earth that are
that are not fully human like that movie they live
if we have those glasses. I believe every every other
person would be one. That's what I truly believe in
my heart. And just just the older I get, I'm
starting to get more and more of that sixth sense.
Like there'll be times where I walk into a room
and I just there's will be a person in the
room that my body just doesn't want to be near it.
I don't want to be near this person. I want
to talk to this person. I'm starting to get that feeling. Now.
When I get those kind of feelings are usually right. So,
you know, I just try to stay vigilant. I try
to keep Jesus first. You know, Jesus at the end
of the day, this all comes down to Jesus Christ story.
Speaker 6: I believe he is the main character.
Speaker 4: He is God, and the Father is doing all this
for him because you know, this is an epic story
about Jesus. You know, we're just we're just in the background,
you know, to play, to play our parts, you know,
to to enter the Kingdom of Heaven and going to
battle with him to fight the evil spirits. So at
the end of the day, all this stuff that's going on,
I just believe that this is all just going to
be destroyed by Jesus Christ. As the Bible says, and yeah, man,
I just think this is a very great time to
be alive. We you know, as scary as things are
happening with prophecy and all the things that are going
on in the world, I do believe we were chosen
to be in this time by God for a reason.
And I find that, yeah, yeah, I find it as
a huge respect to us that He would want us
to be here during this time, during the time where
things are probably going to get really bad. You know,
it's going to it's going to get to a point
where things are going to get really bad, and he
chose us to be here. So I took that as
a huge compliment Father in Heaven. Thank you for that,
Jesus Christ. And you know, and I'm really blessed to
be on this podcast with you and get a share
my thoughts and you can share them back and here
with Dominics. So you know, I just want to thank
you for that, man, And you know, if you have
anything to say, you know, but I just I really
want to thank you for that, for coming on the
show and talking to us.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me. I love this. I
love these conversations and I tell people what we're doing
here is the exchanging of puzzle pieces. Uh, none of
us have all the pieces, but we all have a
few pieces. So the more conversations we have like this,
we're exchanging those pieces and assembling our puzzle. And the
more conversations we have, the more dialogue and exchanging about
ideas with fellow Christians and believers and researchers, I think,
the better full picture that we're going to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so right now on the show, we're getting
close to the limit. Is there anything else, Dominic that
you wanted to ask him before we close out here?
Speaker 3: No, I'll just say to listeners, by being human, we
are curious. We're curious about things we don't understand. So
we get, you know, into these UFOs and you know,
cryptids and rakes and you know, all these to the knights,
you know. But I think it's you know, it's not
a big deal. Like to research it and try to
understand something that you don't understand. But at the end
of the day, in my opinion, these creatures are all
unsanctioned creatures. Their soul is not from God. And if
you get yourself in a predicament where where you are
being attacked by you know, sleep paralysis or shadow people,
or or knocks on your wall, or because you've been
out there doing stuff you shouldn't be doing. You always
remember that every need bows before the name of Jesus.
So just calling Jesus, rebuke it, calling his name, and
if you truly believe in Christ, these things will leave, okay,
And you need to need to stop some people out
there to get really uh because I was like that too.
I was into the UFOs when I was younger, and
a lot of things are happening in my life. Sleep paralysis,
shadow people, monsters on the ranch, all kinds of was
happening because I was seeking them out, seeking them out,
and what's happening now probably my life years and years later,
there's probably still a little residual of that because I'm
doing this podcast. So just a warning for people out
there that believe in Christ, don't look for these things.
And if you have out of curiosity, if you hear
these things, you have any spiritual tacks, just call the
name of Jesus, because every need bows to him. I
out to care where they come from second heave and
third heaven, under the earth. It doesn't matter. That's my piece.
Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, pro so justin you have any last words
for us?
Speaker 1: Now, just if you guys enjoyed this conversation and into
these kind of topics, you know, come over and check
out the show. I'm anywhere you can consume content, the
Prometheus Lens podcast or the Big Bible podcast, Spotify, Apple YouTube,
all those file establishments. Same thing with the socials. Just
search up the name. You'll find me there. I'm usually
pretty active. I release two to three reels almost every day,
nice a couple episodes a week, and the book The
Epic of Esau, The Birthright and Seed War. Just look
for this yoked out character right here and you can
find him on Amazon. I have it on ebook for
ten bucks or the paperback for twenty bucks. And if
you guys do get a copy, please take the time
to drop a review that helps push it to new readers.
Speaker 6: And I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and I'm going to actually buy one
right now, and then once it comes in, I'm gonna
tag you and then just let you know that I
actually did.
Speaker 6: It's on a man of my word. I'm going to
read it.
Speaker 4: I always buy all my guests books. You know, you
to the show. But that's one thing I do all
my guests. I come on, I respect them, I buy
their book, I respect their knowledge, and I'm going to
give it a read.
Speaker 6: I'm going to repost it. Brother, Thank you very much
for coming on the show again. God is good.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my little clothes out here, and after
I'm done talking, I'm gonna let it play for about
thirty seconds, you know, my exit intro music, and then
I'll un meet you. All right, all right, guys, thank
everybody for listening to the show. I really appreciate it.
I'm really blessed to have a guest like this come on.
You know, I have a lot of guests come on,
but usually I really don't get that kind of connection
because you know, we're kind of just learning from each other.
But this man right here is is thinking. He has
the same mindset is me, and it's a beautiful thing
when the conversation flows like that. I also want to
thank Dominic for joining us too and giving his input.
So everybody, guys, please follow us on all our social
media platforms, and don't forget to reach out to Doc
Brown right here and check out his book.
Speaker 6: I know I'm getting it right now and I'm gonna
read it.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to be talking about it, and like
I always say, God is good and we are blessed, and.
Speaker 6: I hope to see you guys, very very soon.
Speaker 5: The thing