Speaker 1: What I'm going Welcome to whatevery Weight's live from sports
Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm East joined by Christopher Pellatti, Skywalker and
Speaker 1: Gordo in the building. He has full government. What's your
Speaker 1: Milliame James, Christopher James.
Speaker 2: I also named James, James, a friendly middle named James.
Speaker 3: What is your What is your real name? Skywalker?
Speaker 2: Clemens Clemens of god Bro. That's a rich asspittle name.
Speaker 3: What's your real first name?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: If ye real first Chauncey Clemens. Uh, smash like button
Speaker 1: b friend to the friend and share this dream. Spinding's
Speaker 1: at the soccer game tonight, at the d c S game.
Speaker 1: He'll be chatting to make sure you guys pull up.
Speaker 5: You guys are there?
Speaker 3: Say what up to him? We got a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff talk about. I want to start real quick, Gordon.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the floor briefly, okay, because we
Speaker 1: really talk about this team.
Speaker 3: Peoplerobably don't care to talk about this team. But the
Speaker 3: Tigers are they are. Pride month is their month.
Speaker 2: Those the kiddies are looking pretty.
Speaker 3: Pride Tigers get hot.
Speaker 2: Seriously, though, it's really no no mystery. Why you get
Speaker 2: a carry Carpenter back you get a labor to his back,
Speaker 2: and you know, Troy Melton, we've seen two starts from him. Now,
Speaker 2: this guy can eat innings. Even in days where he
Speaker 2: gets you know, a little tagged up, like last night
Speaker 2: where he let up four solo bombs, this offense still
Speaker 2: took care of business. I mean ten runs in a game.
Speaker 2: You had Dylan Dingler going four for five. And you know,
Speaker 2: people looked at me crazy when I said that Dylan
Speaker 2: Dingler could have a season that you know, somewhat got
Speaker 2: close to what cal Rawley did last season.
Speaker 3: Guys you went.
Speaker 4: Last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he keeps stacking this up, I mean
Speaker 2: he's got sixteen home runs right now, he's gonna probably
Speaker 2: end of the year with you know, over thirty.
Speaker 3: So the sixteen.
Speaker 1: Way through already, I hear I hear like like a
Speaker 1: video of something playing soon Skywalker, my tripping, my trip both.
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I'm not playing anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But anyways, these Detroit Tigers, other
Speaker 2: than that man, the pitching is is finally starting to
Speaker 2: look better. I'm intrigued at what's going on with the
Speaker 2: whole Tark trade situation. I'm not sure what they're going
Speaker 2: to do about that. I'm sure that you know, we
Speaker 2: can get into that.
Speaker 6: That's that I did want to I did want to
Speaker 6: ask you that quickly, like how how soon before you
Speaker 6: before you change your tone on that and you go,
Speaker 6: there's no way, we no way we saw them, Like
Speaker 6: what do the Tigers have to.
Speaker 3: Do for you to say that I'm there now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tigers literally have to win every series from
Speaker 2: now on. Basically you're at the point where you lose one,
Speaker 2: you have to make it up for it with two wins.
Speaker 2: So year back is against the wall. We've seen the
Speaker 2: Tigers go on some hot streaks when they've been in
Speaker 2: this kind of situation too, and I'm really optimistic with
Speaker 2: the guys that they have, But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, we do have to be a little bit realistic.
Speaker 2: And I don't believe that Scott Harris is absolutely ignoring
Speaker 2: calls on Tarrek school. I think he's just you know,
Speaker 2: playing hardball a little bit, trying not to just you know,
Speaker 2: signal to everybody that it's a it's a fire sale.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it does make you you
Speaker 2: wonder whether or not he's gonna, you know, go for
Speaker 2: it because all we have is other than his drafting,
Speaker 2: all we have about his free agency's questions. You know,
Speaker 2: he really hasn't was nice. Glabor was was a solid signing,
Speaker 2: you know, even a guy that's into his later years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't really.
Speaker 1: I mean Fromber's hype is a good picture, but I
Speaker 1: was in love with it just because the ground balls
Speaker 1: and not having an infield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big Scott Harris guy.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't been huge on Scott Harris for a
Speaker 2: long time either. It just never felt like he was
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that can put his foot down in.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, not only that, but I don't I don't think
Speaker 2: he's got the cojones to say, like Chris Ilich, I
Speaker 2: need money to go out and put you know, field
Speaker 2: of competency. I don't think that he's able to do that.
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, he's just
Speaker 2: kind of another yes man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely arrived that lunch time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. And it's it's disappointing too.
Speaker 2: Like you had last season the trade deadline, he went
Speaker 2: out and got six arms. One of them was actually
Speaker 2: useful in a calfin again.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And if they are going to buy again at the deadline,
Speaker 2: the market's looking a lot more. Yeah, it's it's raining again.
Speaker 6: It's my car is inside, it is in a building.
Speaker 6: It is completely safe.
Speaker 3: My car is good.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Jonathan Lord says, bullshit, that's a
Speaker 1: cover up.
Speaker 3: Oh, Neil gave us the truth, Spinny. Did I rs
Speaker 3: catch up to Spinny? Oh, it's not my information to
Speaker 3: share it. Could we tax dodge and that's possible. No, No,
Speaker 3: he didn't dodge. They got him. That's why I heard it.
Speaker 7: Locked up with my dad.
Speaker 3: Was the Skywalkers.
Speaker 2: That's a white collar prism.
Speaker 3: That's white crime. Yeah. Do you have the picture those
Speaker 3: pictures and slack it all of the Tigers game last night?
Speaker 2: You have skywalker man, they were showing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this ship was sick.
Speaker 1: It was crazy outside when I go home too. But
Speaker 1: like just the the Tigers game.
Speaker 2: This isn't even nearly like the best picture that was
Speaker 2: taken last night. That does not do it.
Speaker 3: The other one.
Speaker 4: I that one.
Speaker 3: That's cool, then that's fine.
Speaker 2: But there was at one point, Yeah, at one point
Speaker 2: there was a totally blue sky and then you had
Speaker 2: a massive storm front coming in, and then at another
Speaker 2: point it was all orange and there was you know,
Speaker 2: rolling clouds like thunder coming in.
Speaker 1: We were living in a real life Instagram filter. I
Speaker 1: felt like the way it looked.
Speaker 6: That that that looked like honestly, that looked like the
Speaker 6: team photo shopping the sky because it was the orange
Speaker 6: shows like, you know, tigers obviously, so I thought it
Speaker 6: was AI. I actually got duped by my first AI
Speaker 6: video today.
Speaker 3: There's no cap cap no cap like a hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I got up. It is not your first time.
Speaker 6: Though, No, this is the first time, is not. I
Speaker 6: can't it's the first time when I saw a video
Speaker 6: and I was like, damn, this is real.
Speaker 3: I promise you, all right, we'll go along with it.
Speaker 6: All right, all right was the video? Sorry we're on
Speaker 6: all this globle as you.
Speaker 3: But he's like, yeah, this spider was fucking grew to
Speaker 3: human side.
Speaker 6: No, man, it was just it was just honestly, it
Speaker 6: was like one of those men on the Street interviews
Speaker 6: with like.
Speaker 3: Some of those ones are good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it just looked it just looked totally real.
Speaker 6: And then I showed I showed my boy Matt, and
Speaker 6: he was like this AI. No, it was like, no way,
Speaker 6: and they point him out. Got stupid shot.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I thought at certain points last night looking back
Speaker 2: at that score card, I thought I was looking at
Speaker 2: AI generated image.
Speaker 3: We hit that three one.
Speaker 2: That was fucking oh man. Carry Carpenter also shot out
Speaker 2: won me uh fifty bucks last night. Had to sprinkle
Speaker 2: at anytime.
Speaker 3: Character marker.
Speaker 2: That guy put in my gas tank.
Speaker 1: Home boy, Yeah, gorgeous start only fans soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's getting to the point man, you know,
Speaker 2: I might start stepping on cakes or something. I don't know, whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever gets the bills paid.
Speaker 3: Is it a thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very specifically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're into the cakes?
Speaker 4: Got me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got me right handed?
Speaker 3: You know, I see everywhere lately. Is that the girl
Speaker 3: from obsession? What's the name Indy something crazy? It's yeah,
Speaker 3: I think something or what would you?
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't know where to last.
Speaker 8: It's Indie like Navarre, Yeah, Indian never at, never at yeah, Navarre,
Speaker 8: never at something like that.
Speaker 2: She's she's fine, she's gorgeous.
Speaker 9: She is.
Speaker 2: Do you know that she was a Call of Duty streamer.
Speaker 1: Like a few years ago. Yeah, that was you said,
Speaker 1: she's old cold, oh was she sick?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like I saw some her highlights and like she
Speaker 10: was low key popping off.
Speaker 3: I'm like why, Like I said, man, I probably got
Speaker 3: a crazy ass pregnant. You know we were any different
Speaker 3: with me, you know, did you hear? Though?
Speaker 6: She only made twenty thousand dollars off that film?
Speaker 3: That's how many films are though, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: That makes sense, but it's just like her next one.
Speaker 6: You see the totality numbers.
Speaker 1: Actually though she Now, I wonder if there's any type
Speaker 1: of royalty in that though I meant contract.
Speaker 10: I don't think so, but I know, I was like,
Speaker 10: you guys something, and like the amount of expenses she
Speaker 10: pays for, like media coverage is probably.
Speaker 7: Exceeding what she got paid for.
Speaker 10: So she's probably losing money on this movie, which granted,
Speaker 10: like she'll get roles, but right now she's probably losing money.
Speaker 2: You guys are scratching the surface of A twenty four's
Speaker 2: entire business model.
Speaker 7: A twenty four So yeah.
Speaker 2: Twenty four great movies. Some of them are weird though,
Speaker 2: Like did you see that one? I think it was
Speaker 2: called men?
Speaker 3: No, you would watch that?
Speaker 2: That one was wild?
Speaker 3: Not No, that was Mark.
Speaker 2: That was that was like a like a quadruple date
Speaker 2: that me and all like my friends went and we
Speaker 2: took our girlfriends and that was Everybody just walked out
Speaker 2: of that like really weird about the function. Like an
Speaker 2: hour later it was like weird. Just the whole vibe
Speaker 2: was off. Everybody ended up going home early.
Speaker 3: There was another a twenty four film.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was that one, but I
Speaker 6: heard there was one that a group of my friends
Speaker 6: who like they walked out on it too.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mark, we have a comment super chat from Adam.
Speaker 1: The d s is pimpball Mark.
Speaker 3: I know if hogs O shot that from the Duh.
Speaker 1: Phoenix Sun does is a twenty four sucks' rage bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be raged.
Speaker 6: I think I think they're They might be a bit
Speaker 6: and we'll get to we'll get to Jared Goff, but
Speaker 6: they might be a bit in the Jared golf can't
Speaker 6: what are they overrated? Are they underrated because they're they're
Speaker 6: like HiPE beasts.
Speaker 3: A little bit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're but they have good ones, Like
Speaker 6: I loved uncut Gems.
Speaker 1: Uncut gyms twenty four is this was Obsession twenty four
Speaker 1: Obsessions A twenty four Sessions, twenty four money even though
Speaker 1: what's what's the one's being like with the AI bot
Speaker 1: ex Makana?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh wow, I didn't know it could be.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I could be way wrong on
Speaker 1: that one. Hopefully she's making more money now. I hope
Speaker 1: she gets some royalties. I'm pretty sure if you're going
Speaker 1: to all these media, I'm pretty sure you going Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3: They gotta be paying, you know, I'm not just going.
Speaker 2: X macam is directed uh by what's his name, James Garland.
Speaker 2: I think Alex Garland.
Speaker 6: If you're a new movie star, I feel like you
Speaker 6: go on Jimmy Kimmel, like, like, dude, Jimmy Kimmel money,
Speaker 6: like you.
Speaker 2: Do it for why he feels a strong guy dude
Speaker 2: late night television like I remember, like watching old clips,
Speaker 2: like it used to be like genuine but yeah you
Speaker 2: know I am, but like nowadays it's just like Jimmy tough,
Speaker 2: no bro, they're.
Speaker 3: All Jimmy Fallon's strong take on.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon is an anti social alcoholic. That guy is
Speaker 2: also a bum, a terrible genuinely all of the Late
Speaker 2: Night Show talents are terrible, Like it pisses me off
Speaker 2: when I'm watching. Yeah, no, Conan is good Conan, But
Speaker 2: is he still I don't know, Yeah exactly. I'm just
Speaker 2: glad that one fat dude, Like, yeah, I'm so glad
Speaker 2: that he fell off funk that guy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, James, I did like the karaoke stuff. I
Speaker 3: watched those.
Speaker 6: I did have a friend that was actually on his
Speaker 6: show one time that did the he was doing like
Speaker 6: the real life tender thing.
Speaker 2: Uh my, your friend and James Cordon. That's crazy, start kidding,
Speaker 2: start all right.
Speaker 1: I gonna get these ones in real quick. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: come back into I don't know. We talked about I
Speaker 1: should test at a little bit yesterday. It was yesterday,
Speaker 1: two days ago.
Speaker 3: Get a picture of him that I was sitting there
Speaker 3: this ship.
Speaker 1: This guy is freezing man crazy, This guy he just
Speaker 1: does stuff that other humans can't like that. That's I'm
Speaker 1: not getting human white boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this might be I too. I don't know. He
Speaker 3: might be one of the ones we'll see.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I mean that the highlight what he made last year.
Speaker 1: He's gonna take a natural progression just from like knowing
Speaker 1: the playbook better or just like knowing the NFL better, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just he could be one of the ones, and
Speaker 1: I'll probably be the one that looks stupid because I
Speaker 1: crashed out after the trade. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: dumb ass trade.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think. I don't think you can. You
Speaker 6: can be wrong in that unless he makes a big
Speaker 6: play in a NFC Championship or later game like that,
Speaker 6: then you'd say, Okay, whatever the cost was justifiable if
Speaker 6: they got a super Bowl, if it got a touchdown
Speaker 6: in the NFC Championship. That's what I was saying with
Speaker 6: j Mo like a while ago, when we were talking
Speaker 6: about his contract. I was like, it was the twenty
Speaker 6: twenty three, it was a year of the NFC Championship.
Speaker 6: I was like, if he gets you a touchdown in
Speaker 6: NFC Championship game, whatever you pay him, you're good with that.
Speaker 6: You're good with that cost because that's how tough it
Speaker 6: is to win in the NFL. I feel like I
Speaker 6: feel like that's the only way you could justify Isaac teslaw,
Speaker 6: because when you're looking at from a rational logical standpoint,
Speaker 6: like you always do, when it comes to just the
Speaker 6: value the production you're going to get, I'm wholeheartedly with you.
Speaker 3: On that that it was an over that it was
Speaker 3: an over trade.
Speaker 6: But maybe because it's in a Super Bowl game, then
Speaker 6: you're like all right, Like.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying I think he could become that production.
Speaker 10: Wise going into his second year. I don't know what
Speaker 10: kind of production you want from him, like how many
Speaker 10: yards and how many touchdowns if you want to say
Speaker 10: catches too, but like what kind of production.
Speaker 3: I'm now like four or five hundred yards I'm cool with.
Speaker 1: Like really just I think I think like it's a
Speaker 1: fair expectation because you have Amara Laporta for me game
Speaker 1: o mer Gibbs, like, and we're gonna be a run
Speaker 1: heavy team.
Speaker 3: Like I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have like a super expectations for him statistically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like four or five hundred maybe
Speaker 1: repeat those six touchdowns, that'd be huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: For me, it's like it's like cross that six seven
Speaker 6: eight touchdown threshold bar Like get there, that's what that's where.
Speaker 6: That's where to me, he'll be his value because he
Speaker 6: is somebody that with all the weapons, you have all
Speaker 6: the mouse to feed in this offense. I just don't
Speaker 6: see the raw numbers being there. But if this guy
Speaker 6: gets eight nine touchdout ten touchdowns this season and like
Speaker 6: because a real valuable red zone target for this team,
Speaker 6: then yeah he's That's where I think he makes his
Speaker 6: money or he justifies his worth.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See Christiakaman here. Real quick though from m pw s
Speaker 3: is he's he's gonna one eighty on Tesla. I don't
Speaker 3: think I've done one.
Speaker 1: I've liked the kid, I've liked the player himself. I
Speaker 1: just hate the trade. That's been my only beef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of backing off of what Chris said,
Speaker 2: I'm not really looking at those yards because I don't
Speaker 2: expect an Isaac Tesla to take the brunt of this
Speaker 2: offensive uh you know, workload. But I do expect him
Speaker 2: to be a you know, a red zone merchant, like
Speaker 2: just he's going to be crucial for this team in
Speaker 2: those red zone goal line situations where you know, Jared
Speaker 2: Goff looking for you know, a quick out, looking for
Speaker 2: you know, a jump ball, just something something quick. And
Speaker 2: Isaac Tesla has that fast twitch athleticism, has that ability
Speaker 2: to go up get that thing, has that contested catch,
Speaker 2: uh you know, prowess. He's shown time and time again.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in Tesla to up
Speaker 2: those touchdowns, but not maybe necessarily the bitch.
Speaker 1: I will say this for him too, is like for Golf,
Speaker 1: I have more trust than after him doing what he
Speaker 1: did last year. Have another year of that, of having
Speaker 1: the practices, seen his kid make those crazy throws. It's
Speaker 1: gonna give me next opportunities too. Rich Ball one of
Speaker 1: the great points. He can't make a lot of contested
Speaker 1: catches because he couldn't break away and separate, and that
Speaker 1: is completely fair. But he's also completely capable of making
Speaker 1: the catches, so it's like, yeah, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: Kenny Gllade, different story, but he had a phenomenal year here.
Speaker 1: All he did was contested catches.
Speaker 2: Marvin Jones Junior was at one time the best contested catch, Like, guy,
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I mean, dude, you throw on his direction,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, he's coming.
Speaker 3: Down with that Jones Juli, what a pull?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was my guy. I have the jersey, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was a Jones Junior on the back, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: my name's on the back. When we get another cop
Speaker 2: that bat hear ago, Yeah, yeah, all right, we got
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Speaker 3: What please drink response. But I think I have to
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Speaker 3: We got him. He's wearing stupid green shirt. He's got
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's how you guys did.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 2: On the phone with tc UH, he's like, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: No, please, people missing it. I can't believe I believe
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like pulling the real quick. A couple of super
Speaker 1: chats shouting the labertine. My guy says the h that
Speaker 1: was a brave man in the beginning. There's about six
Speaker 1: people who know my middle name that aren't family. Yeah, Chace,
Speaker 1: Chaunceys all you guys. But you just got excited because
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I've so many people have the
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Speaker 1: Uh, the super chat from Labertine says shot Bogie Time,
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Speaker 3: Who is that or Boogie Times?
Speaker 9: Chris?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 6: I was thinking that was that was a friend of
Speaker 6: mine because it was some pretty it was some pretty
Speaker 6: random comments in there.
Speaker 3: Just said Mike Ferry like I don't know, played for
Speaker 3: the Lions.
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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Okay, Mike Ferry is a legend,
Speaker 1: all right, shout out. Mike Theory is a legend in
Speaker 1: this household. Watch you show some damn respect. Respect, Show
Speaker 1: some respect from Mike Theory. How crazy, man? My uncle
Speaker 1: had me believing that own sixteen team like they're fucking oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is already He's like, oh yeah, fucking hey
Speaker 3: man didn't win a single game. I was at my
Speaker 3: uncle Fred, I was at my Plati Christmas.
Speaker 6: I was at my Platting family Christmas when we went
Speaker 6: in sixteen, and it was just crazy. The uncles were
Speaker 6: just like crashing out, like oh you like they were
Speaker 6: just what they were just like drinking and yelling at
Speaker 6: the TV like it was like this.
Speaker 3: This city or this city deserves better. This team sucks.
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. Yeah, just crashing out.
Speaker 2: Yeah it contained.
Speaker 1: I mean I lived through it, but I was I
Speaker 1: was a child at the time, so didn't like expect
Speaker 1: me the same way. I'm glad I was in a
Speaker 1: grown man working fucking forty hours a week, and then
Speaker 1: my Sunday was just.
Speaker 3: This team getting fucking bit over a barrel everywhere.
Speaker 6: I mean, did you go to that job you hate
Speaker 6: on Monday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no way, dude. I wonder how high the crime
Speaker 1: rates were around that time.
Speaker 2: Dude, that that probably played a factor into why it
Speaker 2: was pretty sure it was brutal and the you know,
Speaker 2: the two thousands, I don't know them, Knicks fans.
Speaker 1: I mean say it might be too soon as.
Speaker 3: Winning New York's piece of ship.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I can't wait. We got
Speaker 1: a couple of places we could take this one. I
Speaker 1: did tease Booter coming in here talking about it, but
Speaker 1: he's not here yet, so I don't know what we
Speaker 1: want to do with that one.
Speaker 3: We'll start there.
Speaker 1: I saw an article that asked or I'm sorry, that
Speaker 1: states that Jared Goff is the most underrated quarterback.
Speaker 3: In the National Football League and I think.
Speaker 1: I think I agree, And as much as I'm like
Speaker 1: looked at as the Golf hater, I think here in
Speaker 1: this state or this fan base overrated, overrated as fuck,
Speaker 1: disgustingly overrated.
Speaker 3: Like I just I think some.
Speaker 1: People are just absolutely out of their fucking mind over
Speaker 1: this guy makes no sense to me, disgustingly overrated. But
Speaker 1: outside the city of Detroit, outside the Detroit Lions fan base, I.
Speaker 3: Do think he's a little bit underrated, like the fact
Speaker 3: where like you have Nick right go on TV outright
Speaker 3: disrespected of calling him.
Speaker 1: A civilians like that, which like he's kind of right,
Speaker 1: He's kind of right. But I don't know, man, Jared
Speaker 1: Golf constantly gets shit on outside of Detroit, and he
Speaker 1: is a good quarterback at the very least. What I
Speaker 1: think we should all respect on Jared Goff is the consistency,
Speaker 1: like you know what you're getting, even the bad games,
Speaker 1: well cold out, I know we're gonna bad game, warm
Speaker 1: all right, like someone's open. JG's gonna find him. As
Speaker 1: long as he's clean, as long as his pockets clean,
Speaker 1: he'll be good.
Speaker 6: Here's here's what I'll say about it, is that I
Speaker 6: think that when it comes to Jared go being overrated
Speaker 6: or underrated, I think it comes I think it comes
Speaker 6: down to the context. And you just can't say that
Speaker 6: coming off a season where you missed the playoffs, coming
Speaker 6: off the season before that where you had a poor
Speaker 6: performance in the playoffs, like I to me, Golf has
Speaker 6: established himself as a very good upper echelon quarterback. But
Speaker 6: the only thing left he can prove is in January
Speaker 6: and February. It is not through September through December anymore.
Speaker 6: That's like Golf's elevated past that. So to me, I
Speaker 6: know that all the numbers, he's been top three, top
Speaker 6: five in a lot of the major categories, but I
Speaker 6: can't put him as I can't put him in that
Speaker 6: range or close to it because of the fact that
Speaker 6: I've seen what I've seen in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So I think that if if you're.
Speaker 6: Putting them, if the contensus is he's twenty, yeah he's
Speaker 6: he's underrated. But if it's anywhere from like twelve to
Speaker 6: or twelve to like eight or seven, I'm good with
Speaker 6: that range. Like that feels like his range to.
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, I'm a med that. I'm a med that,
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 6: Feel like that's where most people have him, right.
Speaker 1: I just look at it from like a disrespect standpoint,
Speaker 1: like when he comes up with the national media conversations
Speaker 1: from other fan base, like he's like kind of like
Speaker 1: shit on, and I guess I get it too. Like
Speaker 1: before Jared Golfer is here, I shun Jared Golf. I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck this guy. I'm not worried about this guy at all,
Speaker 1: but with the right circumstances, and I think he's grown too.
Speaker 5: Super to read.
Speaker 10: Yes, the right circumstances, Yes for trash.
Speaker 3: See, like trash is strong, trash.
Speaker 10: Strong, he's not trash, but like, given the players he has,
Speaker 10: like we talk about how unbelievable this receiving corps is
Speaker 10: and like, yeah, he's still throwing picks and ship like.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Because he's got no keep going man. I mean, so,
Speaker 3: do you think he's underrated.
Speaker 10: I think he's properly rated. I think people are like
Speaker 10: and I said this year ago, we're kind of trying
Speaker 10: to realize like he is only ever going to be
Speaker 10: a game manager. That is all he'll ever be and
Speaker 10: until until he like actually has some success in the playoffs,
Speaker 10: Like that's all ever beat. You know, and I said
Speaker 10: last year, we're never gonna win a super Bowl Jared
Speaker 10: Goff at the.
Speaker 7: Helm, and I still believe that firmly.
Speaker 10: Yeah, just buy picks in the game and then count
Speaker 10: on your defense to save you and stuff like that,
Speaker 10: and grant that's regular defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, tell me fucked up the defense and
Speaker 1: bail us out.
Speaker 6: What the fuck? Like this is crazy, man, the offensive
Speaker 6: coordinator drew up bad places in your.
Speaker 3: Defensive bail us out every time I fucked up. Come on, man,
Speaker 3: it's just nuts to be I think, all right, I might.
Speaker 1: I might be with you then properly rated because you
Speaker 1: say with you if he's like you're talking anywhere from
Speaker 1: six to eight, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 10: And like I should on him, but like he's he's
Speaker 10: a good quarterback. I'd probably say his top ten, Yeah,
Speaker 10: like towards the back end of ten for sure. Just
Speaker 10: like when I think about the kind of quarterback I
Speaker 10: want for my team, like I want a better quarterback
Speaker 10: than what Jared Goff has to offer. So I should
Speaker 10: on him satirically, but like, I don't know, he.
Speaker 7: Could be better, he could be better.
Speaker 1: Shot justin Yeah, yeah, it's uh, you need the right
Speaker 1: pieces around him.
Speaker 3: For the work straight up.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that we do we have.
Speaker 7: I mean, you put anybody in Jared Goff's position.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I think Josh Allen, if Josh
Speaker 1: Allen had what Jared Goff is coming to work with,
Speaker 1: I'm around Saint Brown, Jamier Gibbs, Sam Laporta, Jamison. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's we've one of the fuckers. But maybe every year.
Speaker 10: If we have Josh Allen, we have like a full
Speaker 10: blown dynasty for out however long Josh Allen plays for us.
Speaker 9: Like, but we.
Speaker 2: Don't have Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: We don't, don't.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like doing this, but.
Speaker 1: It's but we're saying we're seeing like where where he's raided,
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's like the cream of the crops.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's a comparison.
Speaker 1: Like everyone call the top five guy and compare him
Speaker 1: to that guy. It's like, well, that guy's clearly better.
Speaker 2: I get it, Like, yeah, you know when it comes
Speaker 2: to ranking these quarterbacks, for sure, but like to me,
Speaker 2: what matters is what's the chance of you winning the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? And I think for a guy like Jared Goff,
Speaker 2: the team around him impacts his chances of winning. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I'll say this for every quarterback.
Speaker 2: The team around them impacts their chances of winning, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, significantly, sure. And that's why Lamar Jackson, that's
Speaker 2: why Jared Goff, I'm sorry, Josh Allen haven't made it.
Speaker 2: I haven't won a super Bowl. Now, obviously Jared Goff
Speaker 2: hasn't won one either, But I would way rather be
Speaker 2: in Jared Goff's situation than you know, put me in.
Speaker 1: Any quarterback who want to and then Jared Goff situation
Speaker 1: and we al we've got to work with. But that's
Speaker 1: the point is like some of it means less, Like
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has more playoff success than Jared Golf statistically,
Speaker 1: I believe he has more wins and that's with way
Speaker 1: less than Jared Goff's. It's like it definitely matters, Like
Speaker 1: how much does it matter? Depends on how good your
Speaker 1: quarterback is, like like a great quarterback and make up
Speaker 1: for a lot of bullshit around him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were freaking out.
Speaker 2: Boon Yeah, we want to get Booner involved.
Speaker 7: Here, Booner, here we go.
Speaker 3: Turn turn down.
Speaker 5: He's loud, can you guys hear me, Yeah, should I
Speaker 5: just sit here?
Speaker 7: Get him?
Speaker 3: Get him there?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just here to defend. I can stand up.
Speaker 3: So Jared Goff properly rated or underrated? Over it?
Speaker 5: This is this is the conversation like that you guys
Speaker 5: are having where it's like, yeah, Josh Allen in this
Speaker 5: position would be great. Josh Allen's also a top three
Speaker 5: quarterback that has won an m v P. Sure, And
Speaker 5: the issue I get into with you guys that are
Speaker 5: gonna sit here.
Speaker 9: And be like, oh, what do you mean.
Speaker 5: He's I don't know what I meant by that I
Speaker 5: meant in this room, but like realistically, like I had
Speaker 5: this conversation with Braylyn, and this is what I bring
Speaker 5: up to everyone who talks about Jared Goff, Like, if
Speaker 5: you don't have Jared Goff, who are you going to get?
Speaker 5: You're not like you're like the names you bring up
Speaker 5: are Josh Allen. Okay, go find a Josh Allen. But
Speaker 5: that's a conversation when you.
Speaker 3: Ranking him alongside of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: But but again, you guys like can you win with him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Well, he needs everything around him, so does Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: That's why he hasn't win jo Josh Allen answer this
Speaker 5: question and hold on. Answer this question to me. If
Speaker 5: Josh Allen doesn't need everything around him, why has he
Speaker 5: not won a super Bowl yet?
Speaker 11: Because he Because he doesn't.
Speaker 5: He doesn't have enough around him. He doesn't have a
Speaker 5: quarterback in the NFL. Any quarterback in the NFL needs
Speaker 5: the right pieces around him. Does Jared need a little more? Yes,
Speaker 5: he does. He needs a little more than a Josh
Speaker 5: Allen or Patrick Mahomes. But that doesn't mean you can't
Speaker 5: win a super Bowl without him. One of the worst
Speaker 5: things I think is a Lion's fans and some people
Speaker 5: do about Jared Goff is when you say you can't
Speaker 5: win a super Bowl with Jared Goff, you're dead wrong.
Speaker 5: I talked to an all Pro wide receiver out there,
Speaker 5: So if you want to do that, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5: You can't win a super Bowl. Then to your point,
Speaker 5: if you want to use that argument, you can't win
Speaker 5: one with Josh Allen, You can't wine with Lamar and
Speaker 5: y'all could keep going. You can't win with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5: I could keep going if you want to use that argument.
Speaker 5: But I walk outside today after we talked about Jared
Speaker 5: Goff winning m VP and go and win a super Bowl,
Speaker 5: and I run into Oh, I just happened to run
Speaker 5: into an all pro NFL wide receiver, Braylan and the
Speaker 5: one question I asked him. We start talking about Jared Goff,
Speaker 5: and I said, Braylan, I want you to be straight
Speaker 5: on this with me, because I've had this conversations with
Speaker 5: hundreds of people. Can you win a Super Bowl with
Speaker 5: Jared Goff? And he looked at me in the eyes,
Speaker 5: he goes, yes, you can. And that's a guy who
Speaker 5: If Josh Reynolds makes a catch, he's in his second
Speaker 5: Super Bowl in his career with two different teams. If
Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs doesn't fumble the ball, he's in his second
Speaker 5: Super Bowl with different times.
Speaker 14: Because the only reason with the Super Bowl is because
Speaker 14: the referees fucked over.
Speaker 5: This whole thing is you don't even say that you're
Speaker 5: gonna hypothetical.
Speaker 3: Listen, Josh allis never to Super Bowl, I said, streaming, But.
Speaker 5: You want to play hypotheticals, but you're bore.
Speaker 3: You You're the one playing hyper better.
Speaker 5: Josh L Josh Ell hypothetically he's never been to a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Sub screaming for a minute.
Speaker 10: Suve screamed for a minute, you miscontrude construed my point.
Speaker 10: I was trying to say, let me ask you, what
Speaker 10: do you think what happened? What do you think would
Speaker 10: happen if Jared Goff was on the Bills? Do you
Speaker 10: think they'd have the same Obviously.
Speaker 5: There has a better team here. No one's arguing that.
Speaker 1: But you can't answer the question when I said, when
Speaker 1: he said obviously, when the.
Speaker 7: Whole everything, you can't.
Speaker 10: He wouldn't like it's obviously they have better That's what
Speaker 10: I'm I'm making a comparison between josh Aw and Jared.
Speaker 7: You say this, That's what I mean when I want
Speaker 7: like an m v P caliber quarterback?
Speaker 5: This Can you win a super Bowl with Jared Goff?
Speaker 4: Say?
Speaker 5: Can you win a super Bowl with Jared Goff?
Speaker 7: I don't think so?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: See that's you just need everything to go right.
Speaker 3: That's because he's the thing. Sam Donald just went a
Speaker 3: fucking super Bowl. Trent dill Ford w with a super Bowl,
Speaker 3: so technical what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can win with damn there any court but
Speaker 1: player his specific situation.
Speaker 3: Let me fucking talk for smack you, all right, Jared Goff.
Speaker 3: The thing with him, you can win it with him,
Speaker 3: but now we are paying on sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Yes, he saying up a quarter of your cas space,
Speaker 1: but because he needs so much around him for it
Speaker 1: to be that winning situation, that's not his.
Speaker 5: Listen, you literally have a quarterback up one of his
Speaker 5: best in the league, Like when it comes to just
Speaker 5: managing games, literally the best. He's the only quarterback and
Speaker 5: I can't bring in the stat earlier. He's the only
Speaker 5: quarterback in each of the last three seasons to throw
Speaker 5: for forty five hundred yards. He's the only quarterback in
Speaker 5: each of the last three seasons to have thirty plus
Speaker 5: touchdown passes. You can put I don't care.
Speaker 14: You couldn't make the fucking playoffs last year. But that's
Speaker 14: take those stats on sideways, and I don't get I
Speaker 14: you know what's crazy.
Speaker 5: Why does he have the same energy with Calvin Shepherd.
Speaker 5: You should start talking about defense. Hey, come here, we
Speaker 5: know you're inconsistent with your take.
Speaker 3: We did Booter come back. You're sna show you come back.
Speaker 3: You're gonna show you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna slapman.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're fucking screaming to Mike Phone know what to
Speaker 14: talk like a fucking idiot. Calvin Shepherds missing half his
Speaker 14: fucking defense last year.
Speaker 6: Everything he's been healthy, he's had entirely different conversation.
Speaker 5: Championship. Was it his fault you lost an NFC championship
Speaker 5: Jared go Yes, Yes, this guy's dumb.
Speaker 14: You're fucking dumb. Daan Campbell told himself. Yeah, turnovers kind
Speaker 14: of fucked us with that one. I felt like we
Speaker 14: were doing in championships. I positive I thought you talking
Speaker 14: the Commander's game.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that championship. We played Jared Goff for
Speaker 3: the Inncy Championship.
Speaker 1: But he holds yeah because you hear you're screaming like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just screaming like an idiot talking, you're screaming.
Speaker 3: No. I just don't like.
Speaker 6: I just don't like when you when you spin it
Speaker 6: to we were having a conversation started with we started
Speaker 6: with quarterbacks, We started with quarterback rankings, and then it
Speaker 6: goes to, well, yeah, but take Jared Goff because it's
Speaker 6: gonna be hard to get something better.
Speaker 3: And that's not the conversation.
Speaker 5: Like the conversation is can you win with him? When
Speaker 5: you say no, that in my mind If you say no,
Speaker 5: then you're expecting, Okay, you need to go get a
Speaker 5: new quarterback if you because what's the goal right now
Speaker 5: in Detroit? What's the goal it should be? It is
Speaker 5: to win a super Bowl. That's where you're at right
Speaker 5: now in your franchise. So if you genuinely think, hey,
Speaker 5: you can't win a super Bowl with Jared Goff, guess
Speaker 5: what you need to do? Then you need to go
Speaker 5: get another quarterback. I agree, find me another quarterback right
Speaker 5: now that you can realistically get in a top at
Speaker 5: the what the fifteenth, the twenty fifth overall.
Speaker 3: Point if you or trade for if you a better chance.
Speaker 3: You should do that when you have Jared Golf for
Speaker 3: your team right now and you're winning football games.
Speaker 5: But that's my point.
Speaker 1: But your experiment here and there, I'm experiment with a
Speaker 1: Hndon hook as bad as it speriment with the Altmeyer.
Speaker 3: But Jared Goff' gonna be the guy until.
Speaker 5: He's as bad as the defense was in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: three when you went to the NFC Championship Game or
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, I apologize whatever year it was, twenty three,
Speaker 5: I think as bad as the defense was, Jared golf
Speaker 5: in that offense puts you in a position where you
Speaker 5: were leading in the first half. You're up seventeen and
Speaker 5: Jared here the second half. But but you said Jared Goff.
Speaker 5: But Jamier Gibbs fumbled the balls. He did, even if
Speaker 5: he's a rookie. Listen, if you're a rookie and you're
Speaker 5: a top twelve pick man, if you're in that position,
Speaker 5: I don't care if you fumble in your rookie you're
Speaker 5: in that position, make a play, don't fumble it. Then
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, I guess what happens. A veteran
Speaker 5: wide receiver drops the ball, and I believe he did
Speaker 5: it twice by the way. I think he dropped two
Speaker 5: passes in the in crunch time, no pun attended. But
Speaker 5: like and then all of a sudden, it's Jared Goff's
Speaker 5: issue and you can't win with him. Like to Braylen's point, Guys,
Speaker 5: you were a drop in a fumble away from going
Speaker 5: to a super Bowl with Jared Goff, the first ever
Speaker 5: in Detroit.
Speaker 3: You can win with Jared Goff. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you can win with Jared Goff while you're paying them
Speaker 3: sixty million dollars.
Speaker 5: But again, you can always the captain can always move around,
Speaker 5: and that can happen. And and just as easy as
Speaker 5: you can go draft rookies on offense to make it
Speaker 5: a cheaper like a quarterback, you can do the same
Speaker 5: on defense. They just haven't drafted well defensively and it
Speaker 5: screwed them. So it's hard to sit there and be
Speaker 5: like it's all on Jared. No, yeah, quarterbacks paying the
Speaker 5: most all but you're saying when you say you can't
Speaker 5: win with him, you can't win with Kelvin Shepard is
Speaker 5: your DC. Then you can't win with the defense that
Speaker 5: Dradholmes is drafting. Then questions you got to understand when
Speaker 5: the Jared Goff stuff gets brought up. My frustration is, hey,
Speaker 5: what about the other You can't win a Super Bowl
Speaker 5: the way Brad drafts defensively because he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Draft performed in playoff scenario, not one time.
Speaker 5: He has versus the multiple times, first the command MULTII,
Speaker 5: the first time just been the Commanders.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't. He doesn't have the best performance he's
Speaker 1: had in the playoffs. Detro lines, what is it?
Speaker 5: Jared isn't the guy. But this is where it's like
Speaker 5: that you got to understand as a game manager in
Speaker 5: the playoffs, your job isn't to go out there like
Speaker 5: like whoever she was recently been like, well look at
Speaker 5: Jordan Love's all the time playoff games to Jared Jared
Speaker 5: or to Jared Goffs, guys, his job's not out there
Speaker 5: to go out there and get three hundred yards and
Speaker 5: four touchdowns in a playoff game. It's just to put
Speaker 5: your team in a position to win. And he does
Speaker 5: that very well. What's his best playoff game that I
Speaker 5: don't know? I mean, dude, I don't. I'm not it's
Speaker 5: like complete media.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in playoffs when it comes crunch time,
Speaker 1: he's just not the closest I think he's had.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, What is it he said that they
Speaker 3: found it?
Speaker 2: I think it was the Rams rights.
Speaker 5: And even then, like I think, just this is why
Speaker 5: is easy? Yes, you like the words, you can't win
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. Jared goff needs to stop. People need
Speaker 5: to stop saying that in the city because it's just wrong.
Speaker 5: And and if people just say it, I tell Jeff
Speaker 5: All this this all the time in sports. There's like
Speaker 5: black cloud players, there's blackout cloud statements and what I
Speaker 5: mean by that is like there's just these statements and
Speaker 5: these players that people talk about that the narratives just
Speaker 5: gets ran over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 5: and it's like, well, really, if you do your research,
Speaker 5: those statements just aren't true. People say them to say them.
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's likely when you're paying them
Speaker 3: as much money every single you.
Speaker 5: Can't sit here and say you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's fine, Sam Donalds won a Super you can win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Any quarterback.
Speaker 1: We're paying one like golf who needs everything around him
Speaker 1: to go perfectly.
Speaker 5: Which is I can I can do that.
Speaker 2: But I would argue that pretty reasonably compared to the
Speaker 2: rest of the market where.
Speaker 1: He I don't feel that way for a guy that
Speaker 1: needs everything to you.
Speaker 5: To be fair, Like, if you rank him, he's probably
Speaker 5: like it's going down six to eighth best quarterback in
Speaker 5: the league, Dude, he's probably I don't know what he's
Speaker 5: is now with seven.
Speaker 2: So if yeah, and also like if Jared Goff paid correctly,
Speaker 2: if Jared Goff needs all this stuff around him, you know,
Speaker 2: so does a Trevor Lawrence, So does a Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: So does you know Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3: They don't. They've had.
Speaker 5: How many playoff games? Is Dak Prescott one? Pull that up?
Speaker 5: No clue, pull it up. You pull it up, pull
Speaker 5: it up. I'm pretty sure it's zero. That's maybe one.
Speaker 3: I think it's like three or four.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think Dak's one too. Oh my lord, he.
Speaker 2: Has two and five overall records in the playoff.
Speaker 3: I'm not that guy. I don't know why you.
Speaker 2: Said Dak though, Well, I know I mentioned that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just mentioned the quarterbacks that are all paid around
Speaker 2: the same range as Jared.
Speaker 5: It's just the narrative in this town. In my opinion,
Speaker 5: it needs to get changed. It needs to stop being
Speaker 5: well Jared, Jared, Jared Jared. It's like, guys, Jared.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, because I think the town is fucking yeah.
Speaker 5: People need to start talking about this defense and Brad
Speaker 5: drafting defense and building this defense out correctly. You have pieces,
Speaker 5: but the defense sucks. It does it was. The defense
Speaker 5: was twenty fourth in the NFL. And I don't care
Speaker 5: about the money or any The defense was twenty fourth
Speaker 5: in the NFL. There's there's, there's. The Seahawks had one
Speaker 5: of the lowest pay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: They paid their defense the lowest I think in the
Speaker 5: NFL last year. I think it was around the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 5: and they had the number one defense, I believe, or
Speaker 5: top five defense in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Everything went right for Seattle, and I think with the
Speaker 2: way that your teams play card.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 5: Way again the people they drafted and the people they
Speaker 5: brought in when the trading for Leonard Williams they brought
Speaker 5: to Marcus Lawrence in they drafted extremely well defensively, like
Speaker 5: Brad has not drafted well outside of Kirby and Brian
Speaker 5: branch Hutch And yeah, that is pretty long. Those are
Speaker 5: I'm not you don't even bring a leam up that man.
Speaker 3: That man's the year. Judge's career off is when he
Speaker 3: came back off a and was playing defensive half season.
Speaker 5: Ok, okay before did he put a full season together
Speaker 5: ever in his career?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, no, he did it. Actually a game as a
Speaker 5: top as a top five level defensive tackle. He's put
Speaker 5: a full season together. Yeah, No, he hasn't. He's had
Speaker 5: like a two or three game stretch playing at that level,
Speaker 5: and that's it. Has he played. Yeah, but he doesn't
Speaker 5: play at that level consistently. No one's seen it yet
Speaker 5: we have whole season. No, he got paid for his projection.
Speaker 1: See, I think people like you want the stats when
Speaker 1: it comes to fensal tackle defensive tackle, he'd be this easy.
Speaker 5: He's not DJ Reeder Alie McNeil is a defensive tackle
Speaker 5: that needs to get to the quarterback. That's his game.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what they switched his game to. They tours
Speaker 3: a c O.
Speaker 5: That's his game.
Speaker 1: Neil Ada Hudson before the injuries had ten sacks between
Speaker 1: the two of them five games and like forty five pressures.
Speaker 5: So my point, he didn't put a full season together.
Speaker 5: Again he never has in Detroit. Has he played a
Speaker 5: full season? Yeah? Does he put a full season together
Speaker 5: at the highest level. He's getting paid top five in
Speaker 5: the NFL at his position.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. Listen, you know Brad Holmes didn't
Speaker 2: hit on this specific a second round pick, but how
Speaker 2: many other guys can we You know, you were just
Speaker 2: you know, listing off that those names and you were
Speaker 2: probably not even halfway through the list of guys that
Speaker 2: he has drafted. So I think I listen, I Booner,
Speaker 2: I actually I totally understand where you're coming from, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of leaning towards your side on this argument,
Speaker 2: but I don't think attacking Brad Holmes draft strategy is necessarily.
Speaker 3: The way to go.
Speaker 2: There have been some duds. One thousand percent Terry on
Speaker 2: Arnold thinking that he was going to be a starting
Speaker 2: quarterback that has not worked. Ennis Rakestraw, that was, you know,
Speaker 2: a terrible pick. That's our our you know, new Emmanuel Moseley.
Speaker 2: But there are still so many shining examples of where
Speaker 2: he has succeeded in that draft where I'm going after
Speaker 2: him over his his free agency signings.
Speaker 3: That guys, real quick, I'm got a real back the show.
Speaker 1: We're two past two breaks. We gotta go to break
Speaker 1: pay some bills. Maybe to this conversation, Chris, want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit too. First up up your psyche.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about pure psychology.
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Speaker 3: I don't know where that I don't know what the.
Speaker 1: That was nuts that too crazy for you, to be honest,
Speaker 1: the old conversations underrated, overrated. You think of my league standards,
Speaker 1: She's like, what six, seven and eight and my think
Speaker 1: to is quarterback properly rated?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 10: No, I think he's within the top ten. Yeah, he's
Speaker 10: a I'm not saying he's not a good quarterback. I
Speaker 10: just for a super Bowl caliber team, I would prefer
Speaker 10: a better quarterback.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying you're really changing your tune from what
Speaker 5: I've heard you say in the past.
Speaker 6: Well, because you made this the game about semantics.
Speaker 5: You made thistics, Yes you did, because you made.
Speaker 3: It about can't.
Speaker 6: Really it's impossible, it's physically impossible.
Speaker 3: And that's what you did.
Speaker 5: When we win a super Bowl with Jared Goffe, there's
Speaker 5: no semantics to it.
Speaker 6: No, you did because what because when easy was like easy,
Speaker 6: it's like, I don't think it's likely.
Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 6: So that's that's word semantics.
Speaker 5: When you when you say it's not possible, like like
Speaker 5: you're like it's a sports star. You're saying no, it
Speaker 5: can't happen. If you're saying no, it can't happen in
Speaker 5: my mind, and we know at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: we know it's yes, no question.
Speaker 6: We know I didn't disagree with any of your other
Speaker 6: factors you brought in about the defense, about the about
Speaker 6: the drafting, the roster construction, all of that are fair
Speaker 6: and valid. But we all know that in football, of
Speaker 6: all things, the quarterback drives the conversation. Now I'm not
Speaker 6: talking for ratings, I'm talking just in general. They have
Speaker 6: they have the ability to affect the game so much
Speaker 6: more than a lot of other a lot of the
Speaker 6: other surrounding pieces.
Speaker 3: So when your.
Speaker 6: Quarterback is going to get the majority of play, but
Speaker 6: nobody's blaming it all on golf either, boon, They're like,
Speaker 6: nobody's blaming.
Speaker 3: This entire thing on golf.
Speaker 7: There's many aspects of this team we could improve.
Speaker 5: When you rank like you win because of this, like
Speaker 5: or you're you're gonna lose because of this, most people, easy,
Speaker 5: I know, would I know you probably would You probably say, oh,
Speaker 5: probably golf, which is fine. Quarterback have to be But
Speaker 5: in my opinion, around this town, it has to be defense.
Speaker 5: Like the Seahawks put together a hell of a defense
Speaker 5: last year, and no one talks about it, and they
Speaker 5: did it cheap. They went and or traded for Ernest Jones,
Speaker 5: like they traded for La Marcus for or they got
Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence, they traded for Leonard Williams. They drafted extremely.
Speaker 5: Brad's been bad at building a defense. He has four
Speaker 5: or five really good players, but he hasn't surrounded them
Speaker 5: to make him legit all around defense yet.
Speaker 1: Echo for Whiskey eight hundred and twenty hours Super CHATSS.
Speaker 1: We can win with golf, but we would never win
Speaker 1: because of golf. If we ever win with golf, he
Speaker 1: would just be along for the ride.
Speaker 3: See. I think that's a bit too harsh. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I get what I got, get what you're coming from.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's honestly, I don't think that's like
Speaker 5: that far off of a statement.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like again, it's like I said, the playoffs, Gof's not
Speaker 5: throwing for three hundred yards and four touchdowns. He's not,
Speaker 5: but he'll get you a two hundred and fifty two
Speaker 5: touchdowns and if he can take care of the ball,
Speaker 5: you're winning the game, you know.
Speaker 10: I guess that's a good way to emphasize my point.
Speaker 10: I don't think that will ever win because of golf.
Speaker 10: I think he like he's a game manager, but I
Speaker 10: don't think he's going to be the person in an
Speaker 10: offense to go above and up beyond.
Speaker 7: And and lead a team like that.
Speaker 10: So again, I'm not I'm not completely counting out the
Speaker 10: idea of us winning a Super Bowl. Do I think
Speaker 10: it's more likely or less likely to happen. I think
Speaker 10: it's less likely to happen if we have Golf at quarterback.
Speaker 10: But I'm not completely knocking it out. I'm not saying
Speaker 10: it's impossible.
Speaker 5: I think I'm getting him closer to the side. I
Speaker 5: think he's slowly, he's going slowly, slowly creeping over on
Speaker 5: my side.
Speaker 3: Boon, I appreciate you, man, I'll get kicked off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: get the funk out of you, dude. I appreciate you, dude.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Shut out, Boone.
Speaker 3: I'm not leaving. The golf is testing, man, it's testing
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: But everyone's I think everyone's just where they standing, matter
Speaker 1: what met a conversation, and matter the debate. No one's
Speaker 1: ever switched sides, like even the group chat that we
Speaker 1: have and we have like World War threason, there nothing switch.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just on the same side.
Speaker 9: Still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for what is for Neil did switch and
Speaker 1: stick did That's not very surprising from Neil.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember they wanted some week Willis action in their lives
Speaker 1: and that switched up after we didn't get it.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, whatever, Neil likes the lane change,
Speaker 2: the hitting, that zipper method, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He was good Ude neels like the he was with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump with this ship. Honest, he does the weave,
Speaker 1: he just yeah, He'll say it.
Speaker 2: The method of the weave. It's hard to you gotta
Speaker 2: you gotta really pay attention.
Speaker 4: The truth.
Speaker 1: Do you think he could be win the MVP, because
Speaker 1: the other topic we had here is he jeered Golf's
Speaker 1: a dark horse MVP candidate.
Speaker 6: So I had a friend do this and I and
Speaker 6: I want to ask the room because I think this
Speaker 6: is kind of the more fair question because my answer
Speaker 6: would be my answer would be no. I just don't
Speaker 6: see a scenario in which the Lions, even when they've
Speaker 6: had the great success that they've had recently, he just
Speaker 6: doesn't get enough of that, enough of that cachet, Like
Speaker 6: I mean, the year he went fifteen and two, he
Speaker 6: didn't finish.
Speaker 3: He finished what third or fifth? Fifth?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Fifth?
Speaker 9: Fifth?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So like, I mean, what he does he have to
Speaker 6: go seventeen and oh and then maybe he gets it.
Speaker 6: Like I just I don't see the media and that's
Speaker 6: part of the that's part of the award voting. And
Speaker 6: that's my problem is it's not just stats, it's always
Speaker 6: it's always narrative based. And so I just think that
Speaker 6: we've seen from Jared Goff that it's not possible for
Speaker 6: him to win an MVP unless they go seventeen and oh,
Speaker 6: because he's had a fifteen and two year and he
Speaker 6: finished fifth. Like I, I mean, you can't do much
Speaker 6: better than that. Like I'm not slamming golf at all,
Speaker 6: but I think that that's kind of the conversation.
Speaker 3: So winning that year, it was Lamar waiting MVP. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: golf finished, it was Lamara, it was Lamar. Sa Quon
Speaker 3: was two, I think, right, I.
Speaker 2: Believe so yeah, Josh Allen won twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Twenty four, Yeah, oh yeah, you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I I just I feel like the more interesting
Speaker 6: thing is the more interesting thing is is this is
Speaker 6: I have a friend who's a Packers fan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy Matt know, your friend.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, that Matt.
Speaker 3: Matt said, don't.
Speaker 6: We can assault that a lot, but that's one thing
Speaker 6: we can't put on this.
Speaker 3: He's a Lions fan.
Speaker 6: But no, I have a friend who's a Packers fan
Speaker 6: and he actually put money on Jared Goff to win
Speaker 6: m v P And I said, you just threw your
Speaker 6: money away, but.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm playing the cash out game.
Speaker 6: He's like ten to odds right now, and and if
Speaker 6: they if they go hot because of their easy schedule
Speaker 6: and he's in the top fives, that I can cash out.
Speaker 6: So you're a little more interesting question than like that,
Speaker 6: like can he win m VP, because I just feel like,
Speaker 6: flat out he can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do any of you guys disagree with
Speaker 3: me in that I know I think.
Speaker 1: I think everything that our guy echo for Whiskey said
Speaker 1: is the reason why Jared Goff won't win MVP, because
Speaker 1: it's viewed as he's I want to say, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be I'm not try to be distrcful.
Speaker 3: Because you're not winning because of Jared Goff, right, you're not.
Speaker 1: He's not going out there and he's like making the
Speaker 1: fucking game like it's like he's getting the ball to guys,
Speaker 1: guys are making plays in after. He's a point guard quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's an excellent point guard quarterback. He's a great
Speaker 1: what he does, and that's why he won't see MVP
Speaker 1: unless in the running the guy's next to him tearing
Speaker 1: a cl or you this guy goes down, or if
Speaker 1: they go seventeen to O or something like that, then yeah,
Speaker 1: because like fifteen to two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you should have been been like top three
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the reason why we won't see it.
Speaker 1: But I think you friends s Martin playing the cash
Speaker 1: out game, I think he. I think that's because.
Speaker 6: Wasn't he like twelfth? Didn't we look at it? Wasn't
Speaker 6: he like eighth or twelfth? He was somewhere in that
Speaker 6: range idea. I do remember when we looked at it.
Speaker 6: He was so fullow ten.
Speaker 11: You could around play good.
Speaker 6: You could play a good cash out game with that.
Speaker 1: To go our residential golf hater. It's rare that I'm
Speaker 1: in a room with somebody who allegedly hates golf more
Speaker 1: than me. So I'm happy if you don't hate.
Speaker 7: The guy's I don't hate him.
Speaker 10: I mean I feel like, if he does have a really,
Speaker 10: really good season, it would be more of a testament
Speaker 10: to his position players around him. So I feel like
Speaker 10: if he pops off, that means, you know, the whole
Speaker 10: offense is popping off. So I feel like that could
Speaker 10: definitely lead into, like I don't know, maybe maybe someone
Speaker 10: else on the Lions being considered for for MVP odds.
Speaker 7: I'm not rolling it out.
Speaker 10: I think he could definitely. I mean, if he throws
Speaker 10: some five thousand yards, which with this offense is possible.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: He'd really have to like show off though.
Speaker 2: I feel like if he, if any year it would
Speaker 2: be the year to do it would be this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw the blue plant, blue print excuse
Speaker 2: me last season from Sam Donald. In Sam Donald, towards
Speaker 2: the end of the year, he was like third second
Speaker 2: in the MVP talks. I mean, I know he probably
Speaker 2: didn't end up like there on the ballot, but you know,
Speaker 2: when they were talking favorites to win MVP, Sam Donald
Speaker 2: was right there. And it was the same thing with
Speaker 2: you know, Jared Goff when we had that you know,
Speaker 2: twelve win season, he was a top five candidate for
Speaker 2: a you know, MVP.
Speaker 1: Race, in my eyes, is always like a two man race.
Speaker 1: You know for sure, it's always like last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's but that's what I'm saying though,
Speaker 2: that's probably the peak for for Jared Goff, you know.
Speaker 2: On no, I'm saying in the MVP Award in general,
Speaker 2: like I don't think, no matter what, even if he
Speaker 2: does have a five thousand yard season and you know,
Speaker 2: gets all these touchdowns, I think still no matter what,
Speaker 2: just because it's not super flashy and he's a you know,
Speaker 2: he's a Detroit quarterback, and it's you know, more so
Speaker 2: the team whatever. There's there's the fact that I can
Speaker 2: list off like three four, five different reasons is you know,
Speaker 2: all the more reason why he would never win that
Speaker 2: award in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But did you put the money on him? That's that's
Speaker 1: original original reason why Buda came in here.
Speaker 3: Because you have a hot Jared?
Speaker 11: Did you bet on.
Speaker 4: Him to win?
Speaker 5: I made a bet with can you just hear me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I made a bet with Jeff and I actually made
Speaker 5: the bet. I didn't make it last year because I
Speaker 5: had a feeling, but the year before I bet him
Speaker 5: and Lucas that Jared Goff would be a finalist, so
Speaker 5: he would be at the award show, which he was.
Speaker 5: And I said today, I said, I'm running it back.
Speaker 5: I think with and honestly like it's realistically like I
Speaker 5: get like, hey, he's not the reason why, but it's
Speaker 5: the narrative in the league. When you have a good team,
Speaker 5: who gets the kind of all of the glory from it,
Speaker 5: it's the quarterback unless you have a running back, which
Speaker 5: you do have in Jumior Gibbs. But even that year
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four, Jamior Gibbs got zero MVP votes.
Speaker 5: He had twenty plus touchdowns, right, but he and he
Speaker 5: had more Offensive Player of the Year votes than Jared
Speaker 5: Goff that year. But who gets MVP votes. It's the quarterback.
Speaker 5: And that's why I said this year, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: I made the bet with Jeff again, I said, let's
Speaker 5: running back because what do the Detroit Lions have this year?
Speaker 5: The thirty second easiest or hardest schedule, the number one,
Speaker 5: They had the easiest schedule in all of the NFL.
Speaker 5: So this team goes out there and they go, I
Speaker 5: don't know, thirteen and four, fourteen and three, and he
Speaker 5: has a year like he's had the last three years,
Speaker 5: he's going to be in that conversation. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 5: going to be an MVP candidate and he's gonna be
Speaker 5: a finalist. And it's like, if he had like the
Speaker 5: numbers he had even last year, they only won nine
Speaker 5: games or whatever it was, but if they would have
Speaker 5: won twelve games, guess who would have been an MVP
Speaker 5: finalist Jared because his numbers were the best he has
Speaker 5: is had in his whole career. And that's just that's
Speaker 5: what he kind of felt. Well, they were some of
Speaker 5: the best, but they were good. Yeah, they were some
Speaker 5: of the best. If you look at his last three years. Dude,
Speaker 5: like the numbers he put up, their m VP finalist numbers.
Speaker 5: It just depends on what the record is of the team.
Speaker 5: It's like Drake May last year, his numbers were't the craziest,
Speaker 5: but guess what, he was on the best team in
Speaker 5: the f.
Speaker 3: He had some crazy numbers.
Speaker 7: Actually had some crazy throws too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, Jared had more passing yards and
Speaker 5: touchdowns than him.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate you. I hope you and let squashed
Speaker 3: your b whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm just sitting here listening, and you brought me back
Speaker 5: into this convo don't.
Speaker 3: Kicks, but I know that's why you came in.
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Speaker 3: It's over now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just I'm just listening to you boys.
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Speaker 2: What the everything everything other than the craziness mark all right, I.
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Speaker 1: So this quarterback competition right now in Minnesota between JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Kyler Murray two, it's a mid off.
Speaker 3: They're having a literal mid off.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, I think, is the odds on favorite, at
Speaker 1: least from the outside looking in. Everyone's assuming Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: probably to win that job because JJ looked like shit
Speaker 1: at times last year. However, this is how Kyler is
Speaker 1: Murray's first reps went and OTA's.
Speaker 16: Matt Kevin O'Connell is considered this a very true quarterback competition.
Speaker 16: He says, everything is measured, so that must mean I
Speaker 16: have to mention ninety minutes now into practice Kyler Murray
Speaker 16: JJ McCarthy. They are splitting reps with the ones, and
Speaker 16: Kyler Murray got the nod to go first today. Might
Speaker 16: want that back back to back interceptions throne during seven
Speaker 16: on seven, though not to panic, it's only seven on seven.
Speaker 16: But being that everything is measured, Kevin O'Connell's looking for
Speaker 16: the intangibles. He's looking for the footwork. He says he
Speaker 16: wants everyone to see everything because he doesn't want anything Hitten.
Speaker 16: He wants the guys on the field. He wants just
Speaker 16: coaching staff to all go into this. When a decision
Speaker 16: is made with conviction of who they are going to
Speaker 16: play behind, Kevin O'Connell says his ultimate goal in deciding
Speaker 16: who this quarterback will be will be someone who can
Speaker 16: be an igniter of this football.
Speaker 1: Two back to back interceptions for Kada Murray in his
Speaker 1: first reps a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3: I love to hear that.
Speaker 1: That's want of lighting moved a little bit and then
Speaker 1: he with the podium. They're asking him, like what's going on.
Speaker 1: He starts complaining, making excuses. I'm not usually splitting these reps.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Brother, you fucking dude. I love the I mean they
Speaker 3: still listen.
Speaker 1: It's OTA's he might get going at some point and whatever,
Speaker 1: or it is Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 3: I do respect him, but like I just wanted to
Speaker 3: light him move a little bit of little vikings. Hey, Chris, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it, and I think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I have I have a room.
Speaker 3: Shout out shout out by dog Chris. He's been playing
Speaker 3: the Call of Duty game.
Speaker 6: NonStop and he's been saying it's one of the best
Speaker 6: Call of Duty games. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 6: Call of Duty Kyler is back. I feel like he's back, man,
Speaker 6: I really, I really do. I'm uh no, I don't
Speaker 6: think he ever left. I think he did. I think
Speaker 6: he did for I think he did for a minute.
Speaker 6: He had he had some he had what was it
Speaker 6: like one October where he played like very well or
Speaker 6: something where that's like normally where his stats dip. I
Speaker 6: think it was your last year the year before. I'm mistaken.
Speaker 2: People are watching his cod stats. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it nuts, it's nuts. You might as
Speaker 3: well to change your name with that point. Yeah, you can't,
Speaker 3: you can't be I know.
Speaker 6: Well, they were judging his football stats like and they
Speaker 6: were showing that like every October whenever the call of
Speaker 6: duty comes out, like he he drops like x amount
Speaker 6: percent and all of that, and then there was it
Speaker 6: was either last year the year before where he did it.
Speaker 6: So glad to see a Kyler Murray's back on the
Speaker 6: bandwigon because that Minnesota team, between the coaching, the roster,
Speaker 6: everything they have but quarterback is like figured out. And
Speaker 6: so I'm so glad that this looks like this can't
Speaker 6: be And you know, I don't want to jinx it
Speaker 6: because it is.
Speaker 3: Early, but like they're not. That's not what you idiot.
Speaker 6: But I think that I I think that the Lions
Speaker 6: have nothing to fear. But no, I think that I
Speaker 6: think that Lion shouldn't have anything to fear when it
Speaker 6: comes to when it comes to those two quarterbacks. But again,
Speaker 6: you have to have the appropriate respect. This is a
Speaker 6: this is a coaching staff in the roster that beach
Speaker 6: it twice last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's The thing.
Speaker 1: With me is when it comes to Minnesota, Vike, he's
Speaker 1: not the I gotta give a fuck less about the
Speaker 1: quarterback situations. Their defense is the ones that bent us over.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I'm concerned about, in particular when
Speaker 1: it comes to our interier offensive line, because those are
Speaker 1: the two things outside of Kate Maze that didn't change.
Speaker 1: You still have Tate Radice there, which obviously it's just
Speaker 1: all four season. You expected upgrade from there. And I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think he was the one that getting killed anyway.
Speaker 1: I think it was more so Christian ma Hogany before
Speaker 1: he got injured in that game, was getting killed. And
Speaker 1: our guy, I can't think of his name. That's my
Speaker 1: buddy too. Who the hell was our center last year?
Speaker 2: Graham Glassgow?
Speaker 3: Thank you jeez?
Speaker 2: Speaking of video games work, Yeah, bro, he's he's been
Speaker 2: spending too much time on that csgo. Do you see, uh,
Speaker 2: Graham Glasgow was like a what like a top fifty
Speaker 2: ranked Cisco player or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Good for him.
Speaker 1: Shot is that nitty gritty this guy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Then to your offensive line, was is what we got got?
Speaker 1: That's what we got got. By the minst of the
Speaker 1: Vikings A defense. That's what's concerning me. And we had
Speaker 1: Max Brosberg on Christmas and I watched us get fucking
Speaker 1: destroyed national television.
Speaker 3: Jered golf meats everywhere every time you go on Twitter.
Speaker 3: We got nine. Jered Goff got nine of the j
Speaker 3: McCarthy beam that day. For real. That was that was
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was the worst part. Losing to
Speaker 3: a cringe, cringe ass quarterback terrible.
Speaker 2: Like now now they got too cringe gass quarterbacks. I mean, well,
Speaker 2: Kyler Kyler can be cringe.
Speaker 3: Were you at with with Kyler Skywalker?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I kind of just feel bad for Justin Jefferson, to
Speaker 10: be honest, I don't think, Uh, Kyler's been in this
Speaker 10: league for so long. I don't think that like just
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, he's gonna shine and be good.
Speaker 10: I mean, he wasn't in terrible positions when he was
Speaker 10: on the Cardinals. He had d hot for like the
Speaker 10: last good couple couple years of his career. I do
Speaker 10: not see Kyler Murray staying on this team.
Speaker 7: For very long, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Cooked Yeah, I'm uh, I wanted to believe at one
Speaker 1: point I think it's cool when you get like a
Speaker 1: dual athlete.
Speaker 3: I think it's cool. He played baseball and he was,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Just as good, arguably better than football, but he's just
Speaker 1: too small.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: It's when he comes to like these professional sports, this
Speaker 1: level outside of baseball, I'm some about you're making a
Speaker 1: little bit of contact that the size matters, Dude, it
Speaker 1: fucking matters. No, It's like Kyler Murray can't steal over
Speaker 1: his offensive line. He can't survive the hits rout of seasons.
Speaker 1: Why he's always injured. And that's why I look at
Speaker 1: the CJ. Mccoms two was like cool.
Speaker 4: CJ.
Speaker 3: Mccom's cool.
Speaker 1: When it comes to playoffs, yeah, I want I want
Speaker 1: someone bigger than that. I want some reguard more positions
Speaker 1: than fucking a shooting guard and a point guard.
Speaker 6: You know, That's why some people simply simply would take
Speaker 6: you know, Lebron over Jordan is just because of just
Speaker 6: like sheer like size and ability, or or you take
Speaker 6: like you know, or or even like back in the day,
Speaker 6: like some people would take magic magic over Isaiah just
Speaker 6: because of just because of size and impact. Like there's
Speaker 6: just certain things that the physical advantages you can get.
Speaker 6: My favorite thing, and my favorite example to point to
Speaker 6: always is the other Isaiah Thomas in Boston. Remember when
Speaker 6: he was absolutely balling out of his mind. He was
Speaker 6: an MVP candidate and it was nuts. It was one
Speaker 6: of the best stories in Sportsman. He was playing his
Speaker 6: ass off, he had that hip intry. He lost to
Speaker 6: half a step and that five to ten guy went
Speaker 6: from from MVP candidate to struggling to make a roster
Speaker 6: just like that. And it's because he was already at
Speaker 6: such a physical disadvantage that that margin was so small
Speaker 6: for him. That margin was so small for him, And
Speaker 6: that's just kind of how sports are like when you
Speaker 6: get to this level where it's all the elites, is
Speaker 6: there's such a slim margin of of you know, a room.
Speaker 3: For error basically.
Speaker 6: And that's the issue when it comes to when it
Speaker 6: comes to you know, almost every position, like in across sports,
Speaker 6: that's just what it is.
Speaker 3: Outside of like you said, baseball, it's.
Speaker 6: Like kind of one of the only and I don't
Speaker 6: know how much Amrison soccer either to be.
Speaker 1: Size yeah yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, But I'm not
Speaker 1: well versed. I'm not gonna messy small guy.
Speaker 3: Though, right, that's communist sport.
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Speaker 1: So you know, Drew Patsy is supposed to be like
Speaker 1: a tight end guy. Yeah, like he blessed Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: Although I think Trey mc bride would be good no
Speaker 1: matter what.
Speaker 3: He's just he's a dog like that, yeah dog.
Speaker 1: But he did drop a lot of stuff for him obviously,
Speaker 1: the first option of that offense. San Laporta one time
Speaker 1: All pros and this rookie season, uh Off the hot
Speaker 1: star last year up until the injury under Drew Petsing.
Speaker 1: Where does Sam Laporter rank this season? You think you
Speaker 1: can take a step up. You could be the top one,
Speaker 1: top three, It could be the best tight in the league.
Speaker 3: You still have treat Bride out there.
Speaker 6: I mean no, again, it's too many miles to feed.
Speaker 6: I just don't think that. I don't think if you're
Speaker 6: if you're betting, if you're betting for Gibbs to be
Speaker 6: Offensive Player of the Year, you can also say, yeah,
Speaker 6: and Samulport is gonna finish top three titles. Okay, well
Speaker 6: what about am and Rau? What about Jamo? What about
Speaker 6: all of these other things? So I think that could
Speaker 6: you argue, like talent wise, yes, I think he will
Speaker 6: enter that top five, re enter that top five, top
Speaker 6: three conversation for tight ends, I think he will. He
Speaker 6: will establish himself, but it won't be the stats. It
Speaker 6: will be just just watching him play and getting into
Speaker 6: the specifics, so the the run blocking, the minu shit,
Speaker 6: the other parts of the tight end that aren't the
Speaker 6: raw numbers.
Speaker 3: Don't think that. I like, you know, he's got to expand, Okay, yeah, Anti.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that when it comes down to it, though,
Speaker 6: he's going to enter that conversation just like talent wise,
Speaker 6: but it won't be production wise.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, it's fair.
Speaker 10: What about you, fellas, I mean, there's definitely a lot
Speaker 10: of mouths to feed. So I kind of agree a
Speaker 10: little bit with what Chris has to say about talent wise.
Speaker 10: I think he's a really good tight end back. Injuries
Speaker 10: are like no joke, so like, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 10: want him to be as cautious as he can possibly
Speaker 10: be and get in when he can get in. But
Speaker 10: I don't I don't really see him going for a
Speaker 10: thousand yards this season. I kind of just want to
Speaker 10: see them. He's him back into things and if he
Speaker 10: can finish with around seven to fifty to one thousand,
Speaker 10: I mean that would be pretty sick. But uh, I
Speaker 10: mean he's got his checkdown guy. You know, it's the
Speaker 10: security blanket. So as as long as he can just
Speaker 10: still fill that role, I'm I'm super happy with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna have any like crazy,
Speaker 2: you know season this year. I don't think that he's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, be you know, all pro anything like that.
Speaker 2: But I do still think that he is gonna be
Speaker 2: a threat that other teams defenses are gonna have to
Speaker 2: consider what they're drawing up plays. Yeah, so, uh, no,
Speaker 2: matter what, he's gonna be very important. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it gets interesting when you start, you know, talking about
Speaker 2: like contract and everything like that. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: well he finishes the top three tight end in the league,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. And it's like I said, it's
Speaker 2: just because there's there's too much going on in this offense.
Speaker 2: There's too many people that you you know, have to
Speaker 2: get the ball to and you know, running thirteen personnel.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what he's gonna be asked to do.
Speaker 2: If he's gonna be asked to be doing a little
Speaker 2: bit more blocking, if he's you know, they're gonna let
Speaker 2: him go out and run those routes. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: the Isaac taslaw is a little bit of a similar role.
Speaker 2: Not quite, but when it comes to the route tree,
Speaker 2: probably pretty similar. So we'll we'll see.
Speaker 10: So where do we rank him amongst Titans then? Right now,
Speaker 10: like who do we think is better than is going
Speaker 10: to be better than Sama Porta.
Speaker 3: Nick Bride, brock Bowers, Healthy Bowers.
Speaker 4: What what is it?
Speaker 3: What was his injury last year? It was a knee, right, yeah?
Speaker 17: Was it?
Speaker 3: Something was like a Kirby situation or what? And what's
Speaker 3: that Packers Luke Muskrave.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not gonna lie or no wait, oh
Speaker 2: took a craft.
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft took a craft. I think he'll have a
Speaker 3: better season since he might be better.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft's good.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I hate him because the whole Kirby
Speaker 1: thing going back and forth, but like he's pretty good.
Speaker 6: Kelsey's not top five to me anymore.
Speaker 2: No, he's just too We might be top could be five,
Speaker 2: might be number just because it was a strain, would
Speaker 2: say strand that he but he's fully recovered now.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey finished fourth last year amongst tight ends with
Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that offense was battered.
Speaker 3: Yea was taking them. He was the only he was
Speaker 3: the only guy. Remember we got hit against us. He
Speaker 3: guys smacked on his head. Who was that was that?
Speaker 3: Rocky Sino did that?
Speaker 4: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Smacked him on the top of that tree. McBride was
Speaker 3: number one last year most tight ends with twelve hundred
Speaker 3: thirty nine. Oh you know who was also deep pitch
Speaker 3: for second with nine eight?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Cole Pits had a monster season. You know who
Speaker 6: else was a was a dog?
Speaker 3: I mean just in the end zone.
Speaker 6: I remember his off off top his production, but the
Speaker 6: doubt side. Was it Jake Ferguson or.
Speaker 2: Yeah Ferguson, Yeah he's a monster.
Speaker 3: Another guy Gadson Adson. So I come up to last year.
Speaker 2: Harold j T in Cleveland?
Speaker 4: Who was that?
Speaker 6: Who was that one? Because I remember I picked him
Speaker 6: up in fantasy and I was like the worst team
Speaker 6: in the league, So I just screwed over whoever it
Speaker 6: was at the top. But it was that that Chargers
Speaker 6: tight ends. Oh yeah, job, that's my dog, right.
Speaker 3: Top five tight ends right now? Because Kittle's coming off
Speaker 3: with the torn a c O, I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 7: I'm still putting Kittle there for his blocking alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Bowers will move injuries and McBride
Speaker 1: bowers Kittle.
Speaker 6: I think Craft might be in put craft of probably five.
Speaker 3: Craft yeah okay, which put Loveland over Sam the Porta.
Speaker 2: It depends on this that's a season that's I mean, hey, boys,
Speaker 2: we're forgetting about somebody. Those rookie season Tyler Warren and
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren had an absolutely insane season last year. He
Speaker 2: showed us that he can.
Speaker 1: Three rookie Titans came in last year. Actually, was Gadson
Speaker 1: a rookie too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gadson was a rookie last year Loveland war Warren, Gadson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they went nuts.
Speaker 2: And Brock Bowers and McBride are both what heading into
Speaker 2: their second third seasons.
Speaker 3: I think McBride's got contract, though it might be like
Speaker 3: fourth or something.
Speaker 18: Yeah, No, McBride's little bit older. Bowers is our third year.
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, yeah, damn so No. I don't think the
Speaker 18: top five guys a great Yeah. McBride was twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: But I think I think though that Porter can put
Speaker 6: himself in that class of like, okay, he would be
Speaker 6: could he'd be a on top five range, like I
Speaker 6: think he can when he's healthy. But I'm glad you
Speaker 6: brought up the back point because yeah, that's like one
Speaker 6: of those injuries where it either either you don't come
Speaker 6: back right or or you do come back right, but
Speaker 6: you're a hit away for being wrong again and so
Speaker 6: so I think it's very like, you know, you have
Speaker 6: to be very cautious with Samuel Porta. But I do
Speaker 6: think that talent wise, if he is one hundred percent,
Speaker 6: if he is the Samuel Porta, we know that he
Speaker 6: is floating around that top five in terms of talent.
Speaker 6: I don't think he'll be production just because those a
Speaker 6: lot of those other teams, like Green Bay, they don't
Speaker 6: have like a true number one receiver, like you know,
Speaker 6: they don't have the weapons to feed the way that
Speaker 6: the way that the Lions do, like a lot of
Speaker 6: those teams don't. Their tight ends are featured more. Would
Speaker 6: you throw Kyle Pitts in there after one year or no?
Speaker 6: Because there's so many disappointing years and then now too
Speaker 6: got Dalton Kaid as well as another tight end.
Speaker 2: I think he would be better. I think he is
Speaker 2: better than a Kyle Pits or Dalton Kincaid even now
Speaker 2: like a Travis Kelcey. But I don't think that he's
Speaker 2: gonna be uh, you know, statistically or just like you
Speaker 2: know the eye test, better are good enough to be
Speaker 2: like a top five tight end.
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Speaker 1: a top five guy, but there's so much more, such
Speaker 1: a larger influx of talent. And then you have the
Speaker 1: thing too, where you said some guys just featured more
Speaker 1: of their offenses.
Speaker 10: Like did they ever come up and or come out
Speaker 10: and like say what specifically was wrong with his back
Speaker 10: or no, they were just vague about it, Like that's
Speaker 10: more concerning to me if they didn't specify what was
Speaker 10: going on. Yeah, I feel like there's a deeper rooted
Speaker 10: issue if like they don't just come out and say it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they did talk about they're gonna resign them,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming something's gonna shake off at some point.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the thing, it's just a tough position to
Speaker 3: play too.
Speaker 1: Like the game that he got hurt I remember watching
Speaker 1: specifically him is getting worked in the Commander's game, just
Speaker 1: hitting them dirty hits kin lolls, dirty shots to the back,
Speaker 1: which is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: That's football. I remember playing and then doing it myself.
Speaker 3: But like it's just I don't know. It's a tough,
Speaker 3: tough injury to have as a tight end. I'll tell
Speaker 3: you that absolutely.
Speaker 6: Man, the back is like one that's one of those
Speaker 6: ones where it just it just never since. I mean,
Speaker 6: my dad actually has a terrible back because of literally
Speaker 6: one day helping move a friend, like when he was
Speaker 6: I think like twenty eight or thirty. He was like
Speaker 6: really young and he just jumped off off a truck wrong.
Speaker 6: And his back is ever since then and he's done,
Speaker 6: he's done like you know, different chiropractice, he's done everything.
Speaker 6: The back is the one thing that is so sensitive.
Speaker 6: And like I said, like I said earlier, off Skywalker's
Speaker 6: point is like you could get back to one hundred percent,
Speaker 6: but you can still be a hit away or you
Speaker 6: could just never be one hundred percent again. Both of
Speaker 6: those are extremely possible when it comes to back injuries.
Speaker 1: I never sat any games out or I mean I said,
Speaker 1: I practice out from like a back injury, but like
Speaker 1: randomly there'll be day or my back just fucking flares up.
Speaker 3: Oh I can't do nothing that day. It's it's fucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah you what was wrong with yours?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: So I was doing powerlifting in high school a couple
Speaker 10: of years ago, and I was deadlifting like I don't know,
Speaker 10: like four or fifty five or something, and I kind
Speaker 10: of just blew my back out and I herniated two
Speaker 10: of my discs.
Speaker 3: Balls one of them.
Speaker 10: So I was getting Cordo Cordico steroid injections nice. And
Speaker 10: granted I have not to get any of those in
Speaker 10: a long time because I've been going to the gym
Speaker 10: a lot more and working on my my abs, so
Speaker 10: I'm actually like doing a lot better. But yeah, back
Speaker 10: injuries are I'm supposed to help you from.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that just takes off posts.
Speaker 3: On your low b.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't got no six pack, but like I'm.
Speaker 3: Actually is huge. Conor bounces the back. Is that some chats?
Speaker 1: It's okay, I was a minute and that's why I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah we I mean this is the minute show.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think we welcome it. Toxified or
Speaker 1: made the Woodward Sports Chats cross all shows toxically that
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Speaker 3: I think I belave I King.
Speaker 6: I blame my King more than I blame us, and
Speaker 6: I King was cracking him.
Speaker 3: I know he left because because the whole crunch time
Speaker 3: situation we got. Is he back? Is he ever in
Speaker 3: your guys chat? Sometimes I king wars, Yeah, we got
Speaker 3: we gotta get that guy back. This guy's gotta come back. Man,
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Speaker 9: Yet he was good.
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Speaker 3: Check it out, check it out. Do you guys have
Speaker 3: get concerned with Sam Laport coming back?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean like I said anytime, anytime it's a back injury,
Speaker 6: it's serious. But I'm but honestly, the sad truth is
Speaker 6: what makes me less worried is that you have a
Speaker 6: situation like Kirby where you feel like really bad about it,
Speaker 6: and so like you're like, okay, just a bad back,
Speaker 6: Like I'll like, I'll take that.
Speaker 3: I'll take that.
Speaker 6: It's said, it's a sad way to look at it,
Speaker 6: but honestly, it's partially how I look at it.
Speaker 2: I think it's also I think a little bit lessened
Speaker 2: by the fact that we're gonna have, you know, a
Speaker 2: tight end by committee and I've seen you know, this
Speaker 2: team go out and sign to Zach Ertz and him
Speaker 2: still will go out there and and perform even when he's,
Speaker 2: you know, thirty three years old. So I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Sam Laporta like coming back one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: but I'm not entirely worriedried about the impact on the
Speaker 2: overall offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess that's it.
Speaker 6: I guess my only fear would be, like would be
Speaker 6: like long term, like can he survive a season, because
Speaker 6: I think any time he can go I think he's
Speaker 6: going to give you value because he does do all
Speaker 6: the things. He's not just a guy where if he
Speaker 6: gets if he gets six catches, then you know he's useless. No,
Speaker 6: because he's a great run blocker, Like we talk about
Speaker 6: all the things he does that's not just catching passes.
Speaker 6: So I think that sample porter, as long as he
Speaker 6: is able to.
Speaker 3: Be on the field, will be valuable.
Speaker 1: Jeffer Labertini easy line about me, I just internet troll
Speaker 1: and the UAE. Mike Morris is better than man. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's better man than me for fully quitting.
Speaker 3: This makes me feel like have a string shout out,
Speaker 3: Laberto Labertini. Who's Mike Morrise the lawyer Helbertine would have
Speaker 3: know worse. He's not in Michigan no more.
Speaker 2: I mean if you tune into like Tigers games, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like every other.
Speaker 9: That is fair.
Speaker 1: She probably those things for sure. Mike Morris the edge rusher,
Speaker 1: you oh probably probably might be.
Speaker 3: Listen, I've seen the picks. He's not a small guy.
Speaker 3: I'll say that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Mike Morris. Yeah he's a defensive end. He
Speaker 2: played for Michigan. Yeah, he's still for the I mean
Speaker 2: he's solid.
Speaker 3: Shame on me. Yeah, damn.
Speaker 6: All those sports guys in this room were all like, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: the lawyer.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how good Mike Moore is doing advertising.
Speaker 1: Hit him up, get him on Woward He's like that
Speaker 1: is the first thing king in my mind was Mike Morris.
Speaker 6: Because he's every sports like game, local sports game, he's
Speaker 6: their commercial.
Speaker 2: Him or Sammy b Y Sammy.
Speaker 3: Thinking about it two yeah Chris, Yeah, well you said
Speaker 3: Sammy b.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the streets, that's the streets.
Speaker 3: G Burnstem Yeah, back in the phone book days.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think some point will still be productive. I just
Speaker 1: don't know how long it lasts. The season, No way
Speaker 1: Labertine knows.
Speaker 3: The Mike Morris. That's crazy. I'm not surprised. I'm not either.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Probably does go out pop out in Qatar sometimes.
Speaker 6: A man I would say, hey man, he got to
Speaker 6: top all that oil money.
Speaker 3: You would a million dollars was the first place you're going?
Speaker 3: The first place I'm going? Yeah, I always said, I
Speaker 3: always said what I'm doing.
Speaker 6: Actually, if I get like a million dollars, I'm not
Speaker 6: going somewhere. I'm I'm buying a subdivision.
Speaker 1: Where are you going, I don't know where you're going.
Speaker 1: Are else doing where a you're going? What's the first
Speaker 1: location you're traveling.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
Speaker 6: I spend all my money building my own block, and
Speaker 6: then you're you have your own community, Your neighbors are
Speaker 6: your peo.
Speaker 3: Thanks for playing. But all right, if I'm playing a lot,
Speaker 3: if I'm playing along, if I'm playing a.
Speaker 6: Lot to the community, I can't say Italy because that's
Speaker 6: where I'm going this year, So he could be some
Speaker 6: could be if I really have some spots where it
Speaker 6: looks like I really I want to go to it,
Speaker 6: like the White Lotus wherever part of Italy that was
Speaker 6: at I want.
Speaker 2: To go there like it was up in the Because
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, was going to say, like northern Italy, Switzerland,
Speaker 2: where's all like the water, the coast of it, the coast,
Speaker 2: that's that's I mean, there's the east and west coast
Speaker 2: of Italy.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know they.
Speaker 3: Coast.
Speaker 4: You might be one.
Speaker 3: I've already done Hawaii.
Speaker 9: I enjoyed.
Speaker 3: Oh I would go Hawaii. I heard great things.
Speaker 7: I'm exploring Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more.
Speaker 3: I'm more like that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2: I give less of like f about like Germany or
Speaker 2: like Sweden. I'm more I'm staying around the Mediterranean. I'll
Speaker 2: go from you know, all the way from from Istanbul
Speaker 2: all the way to the Straits of Gibraltar, like just
Speaker 2: check all of it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would get.
Speaker 1: If not somewhere like coastal, somewhere like historic, I probably
Speaker 1: would go to Europe.
Speaker 3: I'm I want to go to Germany for because I
Speaker 3: just want to see, Like Germany's around for ever, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They got some cool ship.
Speaker 2: German culture is like very interesting. It's very like you
Speaker 2: would like because of all the stuff in their past.
Speaker 2: They're so like rules like they are very you know,
Speaker 2: very what stuff in the past. Yeah, all right, you know.
Speaker 6: I might do Turks of Kesh. Just see what these
Speaker 6: rappers are talking about south by Southwest, Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm very curious about these two countries in general,
Speaker 2: and the jokes are gonna come already. So but Jamaica
Speaker 2: and Thailand those are two places where I've always like
Speaker 2: low key wanted to go.
Speaker 6: I mean, we know why, but yeah, funny, Jamaica, I've
Speaker 6: heard it's great. That's where my parents went for their honeymoon.
Speaker 3: Shout out.
Speaker 2: Stick loves Jamaica. Stick goes like every year. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure Jamaica would be sweet. I mean he probably, I
Speaker 2: mean he probably lives pretty close to Jamaica.
Speaker 9: All right, I have no clue.
Speaker 3: Little right over, Yeah somewhere.
Speaker 2: Where's he?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh, came in island. He's an island. That's all we
Speaker 3: can to address. Yeah yeah, what's his address? Let's doc
Speaker 3: put in the chat's doc. Remember when DNC pulled up
Speaker 3: Nick's address. Oh yeah, nice boy, he's just sold.
Speaker 2: Is literally a boat ride away from Jamaica though huh.
Speaker 2: Cayman Islands is like between like Cuba and Jamaica or
Speaker 2: not between. It's it's it's close. It would be literally
Speaker 2: like a little boat rid.
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Speaker 1: Gordo and the just Me Like Button.
Speaker 3: B Friant Old Friends shared his dream uh ever tee
Speaker 3: with a nurse two chase hip. But I know a
Speaker 3: guy that that knows the guy that robbed Mike Morse
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: Interesting at m R s E.
Speaker 3: So that's the football player, right? Or is that the
Speaker 3: or is that they don't ask me. I'm not doing
Speaker 3: it anymore.
Speaker 2: Mrs R s E is the lawyer. M R R
Speaker 2: I S is the football player.
Speaker 3: Damn that's crazy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Shot us China Moreno also got robbed when he came
Speaker 2: in Detroit. Shout out deaft tones. He doesn't come here anymore.
Speaker 2: It's kind of fun, all right.
Speaker 3: Some updating the Dylan lark and stuff.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, my guy, Darren McCarty came on The
Speaker 1: Woodard Wings Show last night laid down the law in
Speaker 1: respectful way and wait, it is just the truth, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Like, it's different when it's us
Speaker 1: talking about the Dylan market situation and we're kind of
Speaker 1: dogging and we're kint trashing him.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily felt I went that way. I thought
Speaker 3: I was kind of just being truthful. But like for Neil,
Speaker 3: I think Neil was going kind of hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, But when it comes from Darren McCarty,
Speaker 1: it's completely valid and honestly beyond the validation of him
Speaker 1: being Darren fucking McCarty four times Stanley Cup champion.
Speaker 3: He also was spitting the truth as well too.
Speaker 1: Justin asked him, you know, Larkin talked a lot about
Speaker 1: loving man and that being part of the reason he
Speaker 1: signed and believe it in the Yser plan and all
Speaker 1: that just recently a couple months ago on the NHL network.
Speaker 1: So now we're questing the trade. D mac nothing, no,
Speaker 1: no cupcake, no, nothing soft about it.
Speaker 3: Called Dylan Larkin a liar, which technically yeah, he fucking lied.
Speaker 3: You lied, Well, that was a fucking lie. He lied.
Speaker 3: You're a part of it too. You mentioned.
Speaker 1: My guy, the guys in Florida, Vet skin h Barkoff,
Speaker 1: guys that stock and stayed and their shitty situations and
Speaker 1: they got reward with a Stanley Cup championship. As one point, right,
Speaker 1: even see Guyseran was here fourteen years before the things
Speaker 1: turn around for the Detroit Red Wings. Larkin taking the
Speaker 1: pussy way out.
Speaker 9: I went there.
Speaker 3: I went to specify potus.
Speaker 1: Dmac didn't say the pussy way out, but he said
Speaker 1: it's kind of soft. It's kind of soft to give
Speaker 1: up on your guys, especially as a captain. You know,
Speaker 1: we wanted you to go out there and recruit. You're
Speaker 1: the one that got recruited. He called, like he's fucking
Speaker 1: the neighbor's wife or something like that. He's cheating the relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you was. I thought that was dope. Makes
Speaker 3: you guys go check that out. But I do have
Speaker 3: some updates in that.
Speaker 1: Allegedly Larkin may be open to going to Utah or Anaheim,
Speaker 1: which way better that you wags for Detroit. But in
Speaker 1: terms of trade value, a love teams have lots of
Speaker 1: young assets, lots of.
Speaker 3: Draft picks as well, go with that team friendly contracts.
Speaker 3: I'm all in on that one.
Speaker 1: The man with one a little bit more interesting though,
Speaker 1: because they also been linked to Sebastian Kosa.
Speaker 3: As part of that trade or in a separate trade.
Speaker 2: Cool if we can, if if he actually has value
Speaker 2: to somebody and we can get rid of him. Great,
Speaker 2: He's not even the number one starter in your Ahel
Speaker 2: team right now. It's Postava. So yeah, no, Sebastian cosa
Speaker 2: like best case scenario he was, he was gonna be
Speaker 2: that that bridge guy. Worst case scenario is not too
Speaker 2: far off from what we're experiencing right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's his value has absolutely tanked. So he's just a
Speaker 2: guy that I think he's not gonna be a red
Speaker 2: wing or in this organization for too much longer.
Speaker 3: So this one's from a Wing Wheel podcast. Uh, guys
Speaker 3: that iiser Man has.
Speaker 1: Gone back to Larkins camp to ask for more teams
Speaker 1: beyond Minnesota, Vegas and Florida. And you have to yeah,
Speaker 1: that's three teams, dude, which he sends is ark And
Speaker 1: in Britain. We're receptive to also other teams reaching out
Speaker 1: Dallas reached out.
Speaker 3: For Dylan right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, see this is okay. See now we're talking.
Speaker 2: Now we actually have some teams on the on the
Speaker 2: you know this maybe potential hypothetical trade list that actually
Speaker 2: have young guys in you know, in their development. They
Speaker 2: actually have you know, proven NHL you know veterans or
Speaker 2: guys that you know, maybe a little bit younger than
Speaker 2: what you would consider a veteran, but proven NHL ers
Speaker 2: that can go out there and when you games and
Speaker 2: aren't going to fall off the face of a cliff.
Speaker 2: As soon as you know, these legit teams start ramping
Speaker 2: up for playoffs. Because that's what we've seen over and
Speaker 2: over again with this Red Wings team is that they
Speaker 2: have a very talented team, but they're not built for
Speaker 2: the NHL playoffs and went slowly throughout the season. It
Speaker 2: kind of converts to that style of play we see,
Speaker 2: you know, later on in the year when these teams
Speaker 2: are going after each other fighting for these spots that
Speaker 2: they're basically playoff games, and those games are so much different.
Speaker 2: Fights in the corners are completely different, you know, the physicality,
Speaker 2: the speed, everything gets, you know, taken up a notch
Speaker 2: and the Red Wings right now as their roster is constructed,
Speaker 2: they can't handle that. And I think one of the
Speaker 2: biggest things is because Larkin does not have that playoff experience,
Speaker 2: he was his rookie year. He was in playoffs.
Speaker 11: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean Ken, I don't want I
Speaker 1: want toe the line up being dispectful. But he's also
Speaker 1: known as like a soft player, and he's had the
Speaker 1: championship experience through four Nations in the Understanding Cup of
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Like you've gone against the top tier talent,
Speaker 1: You've you've been practicing with those guys.
Speaker 3: I just don't know if he's built that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean I respect almost more than anybody, just
Speaker 1: as much as anybody would have come to breaking down
Speaker 1: Hockey has constantly consistently called him a two C. If
Speaker 1: he goes anywhere else it's a competing for a championship,
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be that two C. I'm just curious,
Speaker 1: and I'm not as well versed with the Utah man
Speaker 1: as team is, Like who do they who do they
Speaker 1: have in exchange for Larkin? Like, I know they got
Speaker 1: a bunch of young guys, but who are those young guys?
Speaker 3: Do you know those? Gordon? Are you familiar with the roster?
Speaker 3: Are the mammoth?
Speaker 2: Oh uh? Not necessarily they have some really like impressive
Speaker 2: guys like Luke Cooley, you know some other like guys
Speaker 2: that I you know, I'll watch pretty regularly because late night.
Speaker 2: You know, those are one of the anaheim Utah, those
Speaker 2: are the kind of teams that we see. I think
Speaker 2: Justin was saying something about a trade with mc tavish
Speaker 2: that was interesting, but overall I would have to dig
Speaker 2: into that a little bit deeper. And yeah, also so
Speaker 2: check out Woodward Wings.
Speaker 6: What I take away from this is one thing is
Speaker 6: that was d mac right when you know he talked
Speaker 6: about because he was the first one to say it,
Speaker 6: like immediately in our chat. Then he took to the
Speaker 6: then he took to our our airwaves at we at
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Speaker 6: they're crushing it. Shout out to Justice, shot to Spencer,
Speaker 6: shot to d Mac. But he said that, you know,
Speaker 6: Isaman has the power, Iaman has the leverage here. And
Speaker 6: it comes down to a situation where I see this
Speaker 6: report of him maybe opening up to a couple more
Speaker 6: teams already being like answering d Max's question, how bad
Speaker 6: do you want to be here?
Speaker 3: How bad do you want to be here?
Speaker 6: So I think I look at this as like again,
Speaker 6: Steve Eiserman is pushing the right buttons, and I think
Speaker 6: that this is going to be more beneficial to the
Speaker 6: red Wings than we originally thought. That's how That's how
Speaker 6: I feel about it.
Speaker 3: D Mac called it. Shout out to Pete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think already you're seeing that, you know,
Speaker 2: the Larkin side, they budged first, and I think that's
Speaker 2: going to be really important going forward. I think it
Speaker 2: is going to be Larkin's side that is going to
Speaker 2: continue to have to move their line. I don't think
Speaker 2: Stevie's going to have to budge all that much because
Speaker 2: ultimately balls in his court, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it comes down to him to make the decision
Speaker 2: to you know, ship Larkin out of here, and and
Speaker 2: you know what deal he's going to take for that.
Speaker 2: Now obviously you know Dylan Lark and he's got a
Speaker 2: certain amount of agency, you know, himself with that no
Speaker 2: trade clause.
Speaker 4: And all that.
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see, and I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: very intrigued to see how this goes. And I almost
Speaker 2: see this as like a microcosm for what we'll see
Speaker 2: in the future with uh Terrek School a little bit,
Speaker 2: I hope, man I don't think it's gonna be this ugly,
Speaker 2: but I will.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's already been pretty ugly with Trek School.
Speaker 2: He's had to drop both his cy Young's on the
Speaker 2: table for arbitration. There's something about Chris Ilich and just yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't still want.
Speaker 3: To be here common thread. Even after all that, I
Speaker 3: feel like he still wants to be here, and we
Speaker 3: finally build up a team.
Speaker 1: I know, not everyone's happy with it, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they probably could invest a little bit more in hitting
Speaker 1: and come the offseason and maybe do this with the
Speaker 1: deadline too, But I think it's enough to compete. And
Speaker 1: obviously you're not gonna beat the fucking Dodgers. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing, even if the Tiger's falling behind, like I
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, the context of the injuries is completely
Speaker 1: lost when people are just shitting on the team like
Speaker 1: they're missing after fucking guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah you can carry by McGonagall and Dingler.
Speaker 1: You're the youngest guys on the team, yeah, rookie and
Speaker 1: your second year guy which brought Dingle was a fucking stut.
Speaker 2: No, he's an absolutely two years ago this. I mean,
Speaker 2: I get a little bit concerned because you know, catchers
Speaker 2: oftentimes they kind of like we saw it just a
Speaker 2: few years ago with a Wretchman out of Baltimore, Like, yeah, exactly, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, the injuries, the stuff kind of adds up.
Speaker 2: Catcher is one of those positions where, you know, it
Speaker 2: does physically wear you down quite a bit. But Dylan
Speaker 2: Dingler he's got everything. He's got all the potential, he's
Speaker 2: got the you know, the power to you know, swing it,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, get that ball over four
Speaker 2: hundred feet and uh, you know, he also has just
Speaker 2: so many different tools on defense, the pickoffs, the you know,
Speaker 2: the he's my petty king man. He's really good at
Speaker 2: those abs challenges, keeping the umps and check. So yeah,
Speaker 2: everything that he does, dude, he's got a lot going on.
Speaker 6: For him, plays out what's what's up. I'm just excited
Speaker 6: to see how the whole arking thing plays out, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the one thing d Max said too,
Speaker 1: And I had that feeling as well, that it's ultimately
Speaker 1: gonna be what's best for the Red Wings. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I agree, Like I think Spinning also made a great point.
Speaker 1: This is when the New News initially broke is like, again,
Speaker 1: I think Dylan is not you know, I think you're
Speaker 1: kind of soft. I think that's just the change of
Speaker 1: leadership from Dylan to a guy like Moe is automatically
Speaker 1: gonna make your team a little bit more physical, a
Speaker 1: little more tougher, you know. And so I'm here for
Speaker 1: that part of it. And also you're gonna get in
Speaker 1: the return of it, and I do. I do trust Ev.
Speaker 1: I think he's dropped the ball at other times at
Speaker 1: the deadline or Tray's have been on the table for him,
Speaker 1: like for Quinn Hughes. But I think there's more of
Speaker 1: him being stingy at this point. He's not really being
Speaker 1: stingy and not wanting to give up anything. Larkin's going.
Speaker 1: Larkin's gone, and obviously you know, they haven't brought up
Speaker 1: co so yet this year. They're gonna have to, just
Speaker 1: because you're gonna lose him if you don't. So it
Speaker 1: looks like they're gonna trade him too, Like this is
Speaker 1: a situation. He's being stingy. These pieces are going, So
Speaker 1: I'm still confident Steve to do that. It's not like a, oh,
Speaker 1: Steve's not willing to get rid of Evanson for it.
Speaker 1: I get pissed off every time I say that.
Speaker 2: To be I would, I would abandon the cosa seeing
Speaker 2: Coosa in the crease with a winged wheel on. Pastava
Speaker 2: has shown already that he has, you know, better control
Speaker 2: of the crease. He's got just a better eye for
Speaker 2: the part.
Speaker 3: Like every time I didn't even give um a shot
Speaker 3: a clear tell sign too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last season you know.
Speaker 3: What he is and lose a little bit of value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I I definitely understand that. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a weird balancing game where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need to get this kid experience, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, like what if it doesn't go well, we
Speaker 2: want to ship him off and everybody, you know, we
Speaker 2: get caught with their pants down. You know, It's it's
Speaker 2: a weird situation. But I think Pastava is definitely going
Speaker 2: to be a good well right now. John Gibson is
Speaker 2: our bridge a goalie. I mean, he's absolutely fantastic. He
Speaker 2: was one of the best goaltenders in the entire NHL
Speaker 2: last year, and you the Detroit Red Wings would have
Speaker 2: not been in nearly as good of a position that
Speaker 2: they you know, ended up in last season if it
Speaker 2: were not for a John Gibson.
Speaker 3: In Augusty too.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, And that's that's that's the thing. That's where we're
Speaker 2: really waiting for, you know, to see him the truly
Speaker 2: blossom because he has all the tools. He's you know,
Speaker 2: shown that he can be the number one guy at
Speaker 2: you know, his level of hockey's he was the best
Speaker 2: you know goaltender in college hockey, you know, just last
Speaker 2: season and now you know, the guy's a limit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still going to hold out faith Phil that
Speaker 1: map trade comes to fruition.
Speaker 3: Oh man, That's that's what I want that hockey town
Speaker 3: to be. So back would be so bad. I mean,
Speaker 3: no respect to Mo, but we'd have like a true
Speaker 3: blue star.
Speaker 2: I'm saying blue, but it's it's because of his position.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, the defense of the defense.
Speaker 3: He had seventeen goals this year, if that you know,
Speaker 3: but I will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Quhen Hughes, I believe he finished lower than lower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but m would be the piece.
Speaker 2: That's that's the one one thousand and.
Speaker 3: I feel like it costs you less, Yeah, because he's unproven.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 2: I really love Gavin mckennery. You hear about how he guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he talking about his mom. Yeah, dude, that's seat respects.
Speaker 3: What we need.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when I was listening to d MA two, we
Speaker 1: saw about bark Off, We talked about Ovi, those guys
Speaker 1: like thugging it out and then altimately one of the
Speaker 1: you know, the cups still give me a Russian, give
Speaker 1: me a badass Russian, a retreat of Minnesota, throwing cosa.
Speaker 3: And go get a fox his face. Who's the score?
Speaker 3: They got the Russian dude. Uh, and we're at Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Oh uh, career caprice Off. Maybe there's a reason they
Speaker 2: call him the Karellian air bro. He's like the highest
Speaker 2: paid player and fucking one of the highest Yeah, okay, anyways, Uh,
Speaker 2: maybe you could get Uh No, honestly, I don't think
Speaker 2: there's really like anybody out of that top core that
Speaker 2: you could pull away from.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Like you you would have a better chance at getting
Speaker 2: a charge uh you know McAvoy out of Boston than
Speaker 2: you would getting a Boldie or good luck.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying I'd be down for Charlie.
Speaker 2: McVoy is one of the better defensive, you know, young
Speaker 2: defensive players in the entire league.
Speaker 3: All right, get anything in the hockey for coming back
Speaker 3: to millbeg.
Speaker 6: Honestly, now, not really, I'm just curious to see how
Speaker 6: it all plays out.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: I think that it's clear. I mean, we were saying
Speaker 6: that the Wings needed a drastic shift and we didn't
Speaker 6: know what it was because you shifted coach already, you
Speaker 6: shifted you know all of these other things. So I
Speaker 6: feel like this is honestly the blessing in disguise, I
Speaker 6: really do. I think that this is going to maybe
Speaker 6: not for the next couple of years, but I think
Speaker 6: it's in the future. It's going to pay off man
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Speaker 6: appreciate I appreciate Booner. I don't want to get in
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Speaker 6: I feel like this shouldn't be that deep. Man, it's sports.
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Speaker 5: In mail bag?
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, shout out kJ obay in the chat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did see what happened with that that Nationals game?
Speaker 2: Holy ship man letting up five runs in the eighth inning,
Speaker 2: then five runs in the ninth when you were up
Speaker 2: nine to one. Absolute choke job. National season is over.
Speaker 2: I mean it never really started, but it's over.
Speaker 3: I'm always like, uh, I mean the National has been around.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just like some of those teams that
Speaker 1: no one ever is given the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 3: Yeah, outside when they had a p do you know
Speaker 3: doing all the time, they had.
Speaker 6: The worst I had the best pick and roll, but
Speaker 6: they had the worst human beings in.
Speaker 2: That What did John Stockton do did he like know
Speaker 2: about it and cover it up?
Speaker 6: Or I want to know about that?
Speaker 3: I don't know you knew? I mean actually Mia was
Speaker 3: like Malone?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Malone.
Speaker 2: We all know Malone's piece of ship.
Speaker 4: But like what he was.
Speaker 6: Unon and all that ship, Like Stockton, like he's got
Speaker 6: some he's got some weird stuff going on about him
Speaker 6: or q on or whatever.
Speaker 3: I never I never got into that, don't know, like
Speaker 3: a super duper like conspiracy theorists and stuff like.
Speaker 6: I don't do we really want to get into this because.
Speaker 3: I know this show's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what it is, but I know
Speaker 6: that there's a reason a lot of people don't like him.
Speaker 6: I don't care to dive into people's personal lives like that.
Speaker 2: So God, I don't know, Wait what.
Speaker 9: Do you mean?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: For like for John Stockton, I just know a lot
Speaker 6: of people say he's just as bad as Carlble.
Speaker 3: I find that hard to believe because I know what
Speaker 3: Carl did and that's crazy.
Speaker 2: May We got a mail bag in there from Jesse Woodward.
Speaker 2: Is your confidence in the Tigers back yet?
Speaker 3: Also?
Speaker 2: Do the Tigers take the series tonight against the Twins?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Damn good chance. I mean we we went through like
Speaker 2: seven of their pitchers last night in their bullpen, and
Speaker 2: they have one of the worst bullpens in the league,
Speaker 2: so we're going to see it. In my opinion, I
Speaker 2: think we're going to see a little bit of you know,
Speaker 2: May Tigers in these uh you know June twins, and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, they're you know, their starter might come out
Speaker 2: and put up a half decent performance, but when you
Speaker 2: get around to their bullpen, they are cooked.
Speaker 1: My confidence is back with Tigers, who go back allegedly
Speaker 1: as soon as this Sunday.
Speaker 3: I'm there. Are you big your big baseball guy, Skywalker?
Speaker 7: I mean I watched Tigers when I can.
Speaker 9: Nice, That's that's easy.
Speaker 3: I like this one for kJ obay mail bag.
Speaker 6: If the Knicks win the finals, do we blame Neil
Speaker 6: for jinxing the Spurs like he jinks the Commander's game
Speaker 6: and the Tigers?
Speaker 3: Who do you Who do you blame? Do you blame an?
Speaker 1: We're going with the Peasants, bet blame both. I want
Speaker 1: to answer the retire of the Peasants bit. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's picked up any type of steam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think at all. Zero I answered, but
Speaker 3: like this has we support before our guys.
Speaker 1: I think the gotta get retired and then yeah, Neil
Speaker 1: is I think where Neil takes majority of it.
Speaker 3: Is like he's just been like the Jinks of the network.
Speaker 3: He did it with the Tigers and he's done with
Speaker 3: the Lions. Yes, and now they're saying they're saying he's
Speaker 3: doing it with the Knicks.
Speaker 2: We got another interesting one in here from Burning Issues
Speaker 2: five to one seven mail bag. Will the Lions improve
Speaker 2: on their defense time to pressure rate?
Speaker 3: Uh this year?
Speaker 2: And does that translate to more sacks and turnovers?
Speaker 3: God? I hope so they have to.
Speaker 2: I mean it was god awful last season. They they
Speaker 2: they took forever to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 4: They have to.
Speaker 3: What was the question?
Speaker 2: Uh, he was just wondering, and do you think we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to the quarterback faster? This defensive lion has
Speaker 2: the pieces to you know, you know, get get into
Speaker 2: the pocket and muck things up at a quicker rate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think Tyer League is
Speaker 1: more likely to rush the quarterback than DJ reader. I
Speaker 1: think we'll get a healthy Alien mcneilback. I mean he's
Speaker 1: talking about feeling different He could just be giving us
Speaker 1: the same ship we always get from every athlete when
Speaker 1: they come back from injury.
Speaker 3: Who knows, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hutch Alien Tyler stepping up. I think I think
Speaker 1: we'll get a better pass rushing.
Speaker 6: There was I think it was Steve ob Baby, I'm
Speaker 6: trying to find it that said mail bag, who's winning
Speaker 6: the championship in Detroit First, Well, if we're allowed to,
Speaker 6: if we're allowed to vote on the newest Detroit sport, yeah,
Speaker 6: they're going for it. But he bet amongst the four majors.
Speaker 6: He's like, the easy answer is pissed since But you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, look baseball, baseball, and football they flip like,
Speaker 6: do you.
Speaker 3: You saying we can't win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Jared Goff, I'm saying it's very God, I'm saying it's
Speaker 6: very unlikely, because can't would just be ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You can't do that, It's impossible.
Speaker 2: I will say this, as soon as if Trek School
Speaker 2: is no longer a Tiger, there'll go your chances of
Speaker 2: having a World.
Speaker 6: Series Dante one five one mail sack where there'll be
Speaker 6: video games at the Heavies twenty four hours Extravaganins the.
Speaker 3: Next Friday, there should be.
Speaker 6: I got Madden, I got two K, and I got
Speaker 6: college football. If I got my live back in two
Speaker 6: K against Chris Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 3: I was hammered.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fucking right. I also told you I'm not
Speaker 3: that nice that you also had the Warriors at the
Speaker 3: Pistons at the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I had the Warriors with the injuries on.
Speaker 6: So it was no Steph. It was no Steph. It
Speaker 6: was I had Draymond, but I had no Steph. I
Speaker 6: was trying to give you buckets with Brandon Pasjimski.
Speaker 3: Don't believe. Yeah, that's not how narrative.
Speaker 2: Real quick, before we get out of here, aren't vandal
Speaker 2: and the chat? How haven't any UFC fighters shown up
Speaker 2: on the streets of New York tonight with a Spurs
Speaker 2: jersey on? Dude? Imagine Sean Strickland just like in a
Speaker 2: in a circle like Knicks fans everywhere.
Speaker 6: Free permissions to fight multiple people too, Dude. Honestly, if
Speaker 6: I'm a UFC like person trying to climb the ranks,
Speaker 6: I do it.
Speaker 3: I do it.
Speaker 2: That That's the thing, though, Like you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: register your weapons or your hands as weapons.
Speaker 3: Bro, like, oh, yeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 1: New York is a little different on those stuff in
Speaker 1: most places. Why us so long before the return of
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if you like go out and
Speaker 2: get in fights with like random people like you, if
Speaker 2: you don't have like crazy money, you can be charged.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, all right, guys, it's seven o two. We
Speaker 3: gave you over time. Oh I saw Chris.
Speaker 6: This is the will where heavyweights. Thank y'all for tapping in.
Speaker 6: I am Chris, pity ak platty pas with my dogs
Speaker 6: speak easy.
Speaker 3: The person who brought me here. There we go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there you go. I'll give you.
Speaker 6: I'll give you a time on the ones, on the
Speaker 6: ones and twos. We got Gordo on sound filling in
Speaker 6: for Nick.
Speaker 3: We got.
Speaker 6: Skywalker.
Speaker 3: That's what we got.
Speaker 6: Skywalker. Shout out to Spencer Man. He is not He
Speaker 6: is not dead, as Danny g said. He is alive
Speaker 6: and well. He is at a he is at a
Speaker 6: soccer game. He will be back tomorrow. I will not
Speaker 6: be I'm headed up north for a batchelor trip my boys.
Speaker 6: Shout out to David, Shout out to Mats. Shouts everybody.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a good time. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 6: I'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 3: Peace.
Speaker 4: Peace,