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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that even if you
Speaker 2: listen to this show just a little bit, especially in
Speaker 2: the last week or so, you've heard me probably be
Speaker 2: unable to contain my excitement about the Kentucky State Fair
Speaker 2: Fair to say, no pun intended, John very fair. I
Speaker 2: went to the Fair on Saturday, and it was probably
Speaker 2: the worst fair experience I've ever had, and it was
Speaker 2: nobody's fault. I just had never been when it was
Speaker 2: that crowded. I guess typically when I've gone to the Fair,
Speaker 2: it is usually like a week night, Like we'll usually
Speaker 2: like I think I'm gonna go Wednesday night. There's a
Speaker 2: concert there that I'm you.
Speaker 3: Know, wanting to go to Yang Twins.
Speaker 2: Is it I missed that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was on Friday, okay, but I don't think i'd
Speaker 2: ever gone on like the opening weekend, at least not
Speaker 2: on a Saturday during the day. And man, I think
Speaker 2: everybody in the state was there on Saturday during the day.
Speaker 2: I mean traffic was bad, but like it wasn't because
Speaker 2: of an unorganized group leading traffic. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of people, like it wasn't you know, traffic because they
Speaker 2: decided to set something up in a foolish way. There
Speaker 2: was just a lot of people. So it took a
Speaker 2: little while to get in. Although we'll give a little
Speaker 2: bit of a tip here. If you are on sixty
Speaker 2: five North, go to the airport and then you know,
Speaker 2: leave the airport, if you know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 2: go there, just drive through and it'll spit you out
Speaker 2: right at the fairgrounds and you essentially you'll you'll still
Speaker 2: other people like it's not like it's not like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm the only person that knows to do that. So
Speaker 2: you'll still end up sitting in the traffic that is there,
Speaker 2: you know, to get through the gate and whatnot. But
Speaker 2: you'll bypass sitting on that on that ramp for as
Speaker 2: long as you know, a lot. I mean, we ended
Speaker 2: up leaving to meet some friends there on Saturday afternoon,
Speaker 2: and we left about the same time, and we took
Speaker 2: the airport route and they you know, just got in
Speaker 2: line like you typically would, and we beat them in
Speaker 2: there by I feel like a long long time, like
Speaker 2: maybe an hour or so, like maybe some of it
Speaker 2: was because they parked in a much different place than
Speaker 2: we did. But either way, like that'll let you avoid
Speaker 2: some of the traffic. But yeah, I mean it, I
Speaker 2: mean it was what you'd expect at the fair. I
Speaker 2: had my Kentucky Proud pulled pork sandwich, which is a
Speaker 2: very plain, Jain you know, boring food item. It's delicious.
Speaker 2: I love it. I eat it every day, but it's
Speaker 2: it's not up there with you know, it doesn't get
Speaker 2: the same type of love that you know, a doughnut
Speaker 2: burger or a six foot corn dog or something like that.
Speaker 3: Did you end up trying a doughnut burger?
Speaker 2: No, because the lines were crazy. That's what really made it.
Speaker 2: You know. First of all, when you're in the booths,
Speaker 2: and it could be the people that are selling stuff,
Speaker 2: it could be the counties that they have exhibits for.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's all kinds of stuff within the I mean, heck,
Speaker 2: my my son, he was in heaven because there's a
Speaker 2: there's an lmpd's area set up where they've got just
Speaker 2: a bunch of cool stuff. There's a Kentucky State Police
Speaker 2: area where they've got like a bunch of old, old
Speaker 2: vintage cop cars and stuff, like really cool stuff. He
Speaker 2: got to get on the police helicopter. It's like all
Speaker 2: that stuff is fun. And that's what the kids love
Speaker 2: about the fair. They rarely ride rides, but just moving
Speaker 2: around within like the West Wing and even like in
Speaker 2: Freedom Hall, like it was hard to if you if
Speaker 2: you stopped in most instances, if you stopped anywhere to
Speaker 2: like look at what's in a booth or talk to
Speaker 2: somebody that was trying to sell you something like, you
Speaker 2: ended up being in people's way because it was just
Speaker 2: that crowded. So I mean, again, it's nobody's fault. We
Speaker 2: still ended up having a good time, but like it
Speaker 2: was just hectic, man. And I did not wait in
Speaker 2: line for the Uh. I did not wait in line
Speaker 2: for the donut burger because I don't want one that
Speaker 2: bad anyway, right, and uh the line was was long,
Speaker 2: but the lines were along for like everything. And again
Speaker 2: it's not I'm not somebody's fault. It's just it was
Speaker 2: a busy, busy, busy out at the fair. And I'd
Speaker 2: be shocked if when I go back Wednesday, or or
Speaker 2: even if I go back at any point this upcoming
Speaker 2: weekend before it ends, like I bet it won't be
Speaker 2: as crowded. And I'm not going to take credit for
Speaker 2: this because it wouldn't. I just can't. I can't. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But you remember the vibe check at the
Speaker 2: fair last last year, right, John?
Speaker 3: I do remember it?
Speaker 2: No bush light? No, And I had to track down
Speaker 2: a guy who was there, brought his goats to the fair.
Speaker 2: He happened to have a cooler bud light or a
Speaker 2: bush light. He gave me some. Well, now they got
Speaker 2: their own tent like the ONWN like thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: it has to be your doing. I mean, I look,
Speaker 2: nobody advocates for bush light harder than me. And you
Speaker 2: know now not I mean, not only can you purchase
Speaker 2: it at the Kentucky State Fair between the mill or
Speaker 2: between the bud light tent and the bud tent, there's
Speaker 2: now like this big mobile bar that's got bush light
Speaker 2: all over it. I mean it's it's heavenly. So you know,
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 3: Bush Light's been advertising this bush light peach or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Is that I've had one? No, it's not good. I
Speaker 2: mean I don't like it, but it's it's out there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can get bush light at Lovell football games.
Speaker 2: You can now get bush Light at the State Fair.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, it's ever the official beer of Louisville
Speaker 3: or the U of l whatever it may be. It's
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the credit no matter what.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I would appreciate that because I've been advocating
Speaker 2: pretty strong for bush Light and they've not given me
Speaker 2: any money, and I'm not asked for any money. I
Speaker 2: just you know, here's what I want. I want there
Speaker 2: to be more bottles available when I go to get
Speaker 2: bush Light, because it's hard to find the bottles. Now,
Speaker 2: I'll drink the cans, but I'm not a big can
Speaker 2: beer guy anyway. I mean, I'll drink it, and really
Speaker 2: it is. It is all the same for the most part.
Speaker 2: But like if I'm going to go to the fridge
Speaker 2: at my house and grab a cold beer and sit
Speaker 2: on the couch watch some football or you know, grab
Speaker 2: a beer while I eat dinner, I want a glass
Speaker 2: bottle of bush Light, which I do. There's some spots
Speaker 2: in my area. I know where to get it. But
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm just out and about not, you know,
Speaker 2: in my neck of the woods, if you will, good
Speaker 2: chance are going to have the cans. And that's it's
Speaker 2: not a deal breaker. And some people have the aluminum
Speaker 2: bottles and those are fine too, but you know that's
Speaker 2: that that's the order. Actually, the order is this, you
Speaker 2: can get a cold draft. That's where it's at. But
Speaker 2: that you know, I don't have a tap in my house,
Speaker 2: but a bush Light wants to give me one. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna complain, although I'd have to go through a
Speaker 2: lot of beer in order for that not to go
Speaker 2: flat and get skunk. But anyways, uh, you know, draft's
Speaker 2: the best, and and there's way more restaurants sports bars
Speaker 2: around that have bush Light available than a year ago.
Speaker 2: Like we're we're growing. Maybe we got some momentum here
Speaker 2: behind bush Light. But bottles is the top choice, aluminum
Speaker 2: bottle than the cam that that that's my preference. I'll
Speaker 2: drink any and all are delicious. But that's my only
Speaker 2: complaining about bush Light. If we can get more like
Speaker 2: whenever you're whenever you're purchasing, if you're a gas station,
Speaker 2: liquor store, wherever you could, if you've got a liquor
Speaker 2: license to sell beer to you know not you know
Speaker 2: not where people come in and order one instead at
Speaker 2: a bar. But like they buy the beer, they take
Speaker 2: it home. Let's get, let's get, let's get. Just keep
Speaker 2: in mind people want bottles too, folks. It's not really
Speaker 2: bush Light's fault. It's it's though, it's the distributors who
Speaker 2: you know, it's not even the distributors, it's the people
Speaker 2: who you know, supply beer in their establishment for people
Speaker 2: to buy. Just know there is an appetite of those bottles.
Speaker 2: I can promise you that. But anyways, the fair was great,
Speaker 2: and uh, I'll probably be back. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go that concert Wednesday. It's I kind of feel.
Speaker 3: Like that, Oh that's your boy, isn't That's Justin.
Speaker 2: It's Justin Moore. Yeah, And I love Justin Moore. I've
Speaker 2: seen him. I've seen him many times. Uh. And it's
Speaker 2: it's it's the it's the most risky and dangerous situation
Speaker 2: in a long time for Rick Coffee to appear from
Speaker 2: seemingly the dead. Rick Coffee is my alter ego. It's
Speaker 2: a different version of me, that is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It came about from your old neighborhood, right, somebody thought
Speaker 3: your name was Rick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so, and you know it just became I
Speaker 2: don't really know how it became where it started being
Speaker 2: mentioned like when I'm drunk, Nick. But and that's really
Speaker 2: all it is. It's nothing crazy. It's not like I
Speaker 2: could do some cool party tricks when I'm ha. I
Speaker 2: just you know, here, here's a giveaway for me if
Speaker 2: I've been, if I've been, you know, putting them back.
Speaker 2: Usually I'm a little I can you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: without sounding like a pervert, Like I can just get
Speaker 2: touchy right, like, you know, hand on your shoulder while
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you, you know, just you know, just
Speaker 2: I'm that.
Speaker 3: Guy you don't care about personal space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there really appears there's no radar for personal
Speaker 2: space whenever rick Is has taken over for Nick. So
Speaker 2: you know, like I can't see a scenario. I mean
Speaker 2: it certainly I would, I would, you know, I would
Speaker 2: make my wife drive me home where I would we
Speaker 2: would get it and we'd get an uber. But then,
Speaker 2: like the thought of getting an uber out of the
Speaker 2: fair just sounds like a headache. You know. I haven't
Speaker 2: even had a night where I have to worry about
Speaker 2: like a big hangover in a long time. I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like that would be that night. Because it's outside,
Speaker 2: it's hot. You know, I'm with my people justin more fanatics.
Speaker 2: If that's you, stand up, take a bow. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm proud to be in the same group with you.
Speaker 2: But like I just I don't know, Like I it
Speaker 2: sounds fun. I think i'd have fun. But I do
Speaker 2: think this is growth in becoming you know, an older,
Speaker 2: washed up, thirty six year old man that's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't need to be going to that. You've seen
Speaker 2: him enough times. You don't need to be out there,
Speaker 2: you know, pounding bush lights. And you know, on a Wednesday,
Speaker 2: maybe if it's a Saturday, maybe it's a Friday. But
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, I think I'm gonna and I can't be
Speaker 2: hung over from my first pitch on Thursday, That's true.
Speaker 2: I gotta be in good And by the way, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm amazed by how many people are worried for me
Speaker 2: about this. Like it's the first thing people bring up
Speaker 2: to me when I tell them I'm throwing the first
Speaker 2: pitch at the bats game on set on Thursday. Do
Speaker 2: you know how far that is from the plate to
Speaker 2: the to the mound? I mean no, but I mean
Speaker 2: it's not like I gotta throw it a mile, do
Speaker 2: I people are like, how do you like to say
Speaker 2: that I'm practicing for a first pitch? Like where would
Speaker 2: I do that in my backyard? Like how do you
Speaker 2: practice for a first pitch? If you're not somebody that
Speaker 2: you know is a part of baseball, I can go
Speaker 2: throw a baseball, but like, you know, the best thing you.
Speaker 3: Could do is look up the I guess the dimensions
Speaker 3: of how far the plate is from the mound, and
Speaker 3: maybe try to measure that in your yard and do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll say this the best chance for
Speaker 2: me to just you know, go out there. And I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna throw a great pitch. I'm not gonna look
Speaker 2: like I've ever pitched a baseball, Like I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna look like a natural. My goal is to
Speaker 2: just get it across the plate. And if the if
Speaker 2: the catcher's got to reach to the left or the
Speaker 2: right or maybe stand up to get it. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't consider that to be a failure. Like that's
Speaker 2: just you know, me getting it to the guy with
Speaker 2: him having a little movement. So if I do practice
Speaker 2: and I start, you know, measuring out the distance, and
Speaker 2: I just you know, hey, hey son, my four year old.
Speaker 2: Once you go down there and just you know, you
Speaker 2: play catcher. I'm gonna try to I'm gonna work on
Speaker 2: pitching it and you you know, you catch it for
Speaker 2: me like one, that'd be embarrassing to even go through
Speaker 2: that process. Also, I'd be overthinking it and I would
Speaker 2: go out there and I'd be like, all right, you've
Speaker 2: been practicing, you know. Just I'm just gonna go out
Speaker 2: there and wing it. And again, is there is there
Speaker 2: a chance by doing that I end up embarrassing myself? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: But I knew going in there was a good chance
Speaker 2: that was gonna happen anyway.
Speaker 3: So is there a worst case scenario for how it
Speaker 3: plays out?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't I don't want to
Speaker 2: go out there and just make a clown of myself
Speaker 2: to where it looks as if I'm utilizing this great
Speaker 2: opportunity that the louisvill BADS organization has given me to
Speaker 2: like be a clown. So you know, but also I'm
Speaker 2: aware that like the worst that it is, the more
Speaker 2: attention it would eventually get. And that's not you know,
Speaker 2: that's not gonna make me look good. But you know,
Speaker 2: it also wouldn't be the worst thing ever. If you know,
Speaker 2: I get a ton of attention from it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: You could lean into it.
Speaker 2: I'm not, yeah, yeah exactly. I mean, look, self deprecation
Speaker 2: is my brand, baby, Like that's that's right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: So it could be it could be like a perfect
Speaker 2: scenario in that regard. But yeah, six point twenty on
Speaker 2: on Thursday at Slugger Field, I'll be throwing out the
Speaker 2: first pitch and I'm looking forward to it, and I
Speaker 2: really appreciate the Bats for extending the invite, and you know,
Speaker 2: I won't let you down. I mean, I'll be there.
Speaker 2: Can't guarantee that it's gonna be a you know, a
Speaker 2: great pitch, but you know, my goal here again, my
Speaker 2: goal here is to just get it within the vicinity
Speaker 2: of home plate to where the guy catching it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to do a whole lot of movement and I
Speaker 2: don't end up, you know, being listed as somebody who
Speaker 2: threw out one of the worst pitches of all time.
Speaker 2: But again, like there's also part of me that like,
Speaker 2: how bad would I have to be for it to
Speaker 2: get that kind of attention and where people are like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, did you see what this guy did.
Speaker 2: And then there's also like fear that I had that
Speaker 2: if it was really bad. And that's why, like the
Speaker 2: people who are worried for me are people who know
Speaker 2: me personally that like, no, it's not a joke. He
Speaker 2: really looks like someone who's never thrown a baseball in
Speaker 2: his life like that, you know. But because if I
Speaker 2: did go out there and embarrass myself, the last thing
Speaker 2: I would ever want was people to say that I
Speaker 2: did that on purpose, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 2: I'd be lame, Like that would just be lame. It
Speaker 2: would be to me. It'd be a slap in the
Speaker 2: face to the bats, and I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Six twenty first pitch, looking
Speaker 2: forward to it and check this out Thursday, Thursday, So
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Speaker 2: it should be fun. Hope to see uh, hope to
Speaker 2: see you guys there and feel free to make fun
Speaker 2: of me if you really, you know, think my first
Speaker 2: pitch is that bad. Trust me, you're not gonna hurt
Speaker 2: my feelings. I'm well aware of of of how bad
Speaker 2: I may do here. All right, Coffee and Company, that's
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Speaker 2: hear from more of you. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is legit or not, but I did get a little
Speaker 2: distracted because this person on the text line who's never
Speaker 2: texted the before John, they claim to be the neighbor
Speaker 2: that thought my name was Rick. Oh. Really could be
Speaker 2: somebody pulling my leg here, But for those who don't
Speaker 2: know that, and this is just me, Like I again,
Speaker 2: I don't I feel like I've grown since this part
Speaker 2: of my life, but I not only do I fear confrontation,
Speaker 2: like don't I don't like awkward, Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I'm trying, I'm word vomiting here. But there was
Speaker 2: somebody who was a neighbor like four houses down when
Speaker 2: I lived at our when we lived at our old house,
Speaker 2: that like one day they are walking down the street.
Speaker 2: I'm outside with my daughter, my son hasn't it wasn't
Speaker 2: born yet, and I introduced myself and he introduced himself
Speaker 2: and he thought I said my name was was Rick.
Speaker 2: And I didn't correct him. Why, I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to make him feel bad that like,
Speaker 2: cause again, if you don't do it, like, if you
Speaker 2: don't do it right away and you wait, like then
Speaker 2: then I think you've made that person feel bad and
Speaker 2: you've made them feel more awkward when in reality, if
Speaker 2: they say your name wrong and you don't correct them,
Speaker 2: they don't know your name. Therefore, only you could correct that, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: So like if I've let somebody think my name is
Speaker 2: Rick for a while and I bring it up, you know,
Speaker 2: a year later, Hey, it's actually Nick, Like that makes
Speaker 2: me look bad, doesn't.
Speaker 3: It looking bad? I mean, I guess it depends on
Speaker 3: the way you think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I was, I guess it depends on
Speaker 2: like did did did I just realize he thought my
Speaker 2: name was Rick? Or but this was this was somebody
Speaker 2: that started to become a little bit more of a
Speaker 2: frequent like yeah with neighbor and like, hey Rick, guys
Speaker 2: it going Rick?
Speaker 1: Hey Rick?
Speaker 2: And I just never corrected him. And finally, finally one
Speaker 2: of my other neighbors told him that my name was
Speaker 2: not Rick, it was Nick. And you know, I think
Speaker 2: the guy like thought I was a jerk. So if
Speaker 2: that's you on the text line and you're legitimately the
Speaker 2: person who uh, who lived four houses down that thought
Speaker 2: my name was Rick. Then you know, I'm sorry I
Speaker 2: didn't correct you probably should have because again you had
Speaker 2: no way of knowing that you were calling me the
Speaker 2: wrong name.
Speaker 3: Right, If it truly is him, I wonder how long
Speaker 3: it took for him to figure out that you, you know,
Speaker 3: have this platform and that he could text you and
Speaker 3: let him know.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's what Uh, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that's that's how it ended up playing out to where
Speaker 2: one of the neighbors was discussing me, and I think
Speaker 2: the guy was like, it's it's Rick, not Nick. Rick.
Speaker 2: Rick and his wife Tiffany, they lived they lived down
Speaker 2: the Riffany so and then again, Rick's been because Nick
Speaker 2: and Rick. You know, it sounds it sounds, it sounds similar.
Speaker 2: It's just one letter off, right. But it just so
Speaker 2: happened that not long after that encounter, I ended up
Speaker 2: going on I ended up going on a Baltimore radio
Speaker 2: station to talk about Lamar Jackson, and the host called
Speaker 2: me Rick Coffee, introduced me as Rick Coffee, and again, like,
Speaker 2: if you don't correct him right out of the gate,
Speaker 2: then it becomes even more awkward when you then later
Speaker 2: so like and this is one of those guys. And
Speaker 2: there are many hosts that have done this over the years,
Speaker 2: where like they'll say your name a lot, like every
Speaker 2: time they ask you a question. It's not just like
Speaker 2: resetting like you know, they'll they'll mention your name a
Speaker 2: whole lot to give the feel that like you do
Speaker 2: in fact know each other. When I didn't know this guy,
Speaker 2: and clearly he didn't know me to know my name,
Speaker 2: so like I thought, like, okay, maybe he introduced me wrong.
Speaker 2: Nobody in Baltimore knows who I am. Therefore they don't
Speaker 2: care if it's Nick Rick Dick who cares, right, So
Speaker 2: I just didn't think much about it. Well then like
Speaker 2: every question, so Nick tell me about it, or so
Speaker 2: Rick tell me about this? So Rick, Rick, let me
Speaker 2: ask you this question. Rick, Rick coffee with us here,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, all right, what's too late now?
Speaker 2: Because if I correct him midway through the conversation, then
Speaker 2: it just makes it even more awkward. So just accept
Speaker 2: Like so at times I just decided I am Rick.
Speaker 2: In fact, now I'm starting to believe this person is
Speaker 2: legitimately the neighbor that said that's.
Speaker 3: Sharing personal information.
Speaker 2: He shared a screenshot of the tweet that I sent
Speaker 2: out in April of twenty twenty. Because I tweeted it,
Speaker 2: I said, some of the list few houses down thinks
Speaker 2: my name is Rick. Never corrected him because I never
Speaker 2: expected to have any communication with him. A pandemic has
Speaker 2: changed things. On like four occasions he called me Rick,
Speaker 2: and I never corrected him.
Speaker 5: Too late.
Speaker 2: Now I am Rick Coffee. That's that's what happened.
Speaker 3: So anyways, that's an uncomfortable situation though the radio interview,
Speaker 3: because I probably would have done the same thing you did,
Speaker 3: just not mention it, and then it probably threw you
Speaker 3: off your game a little bit. I mean, obviously I've
Speaker 3: never heard the interview, but did you were you kind
Speaker 3: of thinking every time he would address you as Rick,
Speaker 3: would you think about that?
Speaker 2: No, because I just decided, like, after the second time,
Speaker 2: all right, that was it. If you were going to
Speaker 2: do it, you should have done it. Then, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: did awareness, and I just was like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I just accepted I'm real Coffee. That's that's
Speaker 2: what ended up happening. Now. I will say this, if
Speaker 2: somebody comes on my show as a guest and they
Speaker 2: don't know my name, I have to correct that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, that's that's the level of
Speaker 2: like patheticness still, like I mean, that's where you're like.
Speaker 2: And again I probably, I probably should have corrected anybody
Speaker 2: who doesn't know my name, And it's only my responsible,
Speaker 2: it's my duty to do that, nobody else's. But sometimes again,
Speaker 2: like a radio interview in a city that I will
Speaker 2: probably never be in in my life, like it just
Speaker 2: wasn't worth it, but over and over like every time
Speaker 2: he asked the question or responded to something I said,
Speaker 2: he had to throw in Rick in there. So I
Speaker 2: felt like when I hung up the phone, well, I
Speaker 2: guess I am Rick Coffee now like it or not,
Speaker 2: that's me all right. We'll let you hear from Jeff
Speaker 2: Brohm on the other side, not real pleased with his offense,
Speaker 2: but also giving a lot of credit to his defense
Speaker 2: for that final scrimmage. If you are just now joining
Speaker 2: us or didn't hear the beginning of the show, we
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Speaker 2: So you know, when you have recaps from an inner
Speaker 2: squad scrimmage, which is essentially what happened on Saturday for
Speaker 2: louisvill football, I mean, they have a few of these
Speaker 2: scrimmages that are as close as you get to real
Speaker 2: action until you know, you get to a real game, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, they make it as close to I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not a real game, but it's a real scrimmage
Speaker 2: to where you know, you're seeing where you stand. It's
Speaker 2: it's not quite like performing, you know, when the lights
Speaker 2: are on, but it's as close as you can get
Speaker 2: to replicating that in a practice situation. And Jeff Brom,
Speaker 2: when talking to the media after both of these most
Speaker 2: recent scrimmages, was not too pleased with his offense. In fact,
Speaker 2: I Rick boseuche did a good job at WDRB kind
Speaker 2: of highlighting that it's been back to back weeks where
Speaker 2: you know, the offense just you know, didn't get much
Speaker 2: praise from their head coach, which I'm sure Jeff Brom
Speaker 2: has a very high standard for his offense, but I
Speaker 2: also don't think he's someone that is going to, you know,
Speaker 2: mislead you in any way. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: we're still learning a little bit, but a little bit
Speaker 2: about Jeff when it comes to like you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's always going to be pretty
Speaker 2: much what you see is what you get. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be pretty direct, not try to really you know, motivate
Speaker 2: his guys with any big quotes or any big statements
Speaker 2: when he talks to the media. But look, it could
Speaker 2: all I mean, he could be one thousand percent truthful
Speaker 2: here and it still worked that same purpose right where, Hey,
Speaker 2: these guys heard it from their coach that he wasn't
Speaker 2: really pleased with what he saw offensively, but then you know,
Speaker 2: he said it to people that were there covering the
Speaker 2: program with a microphone and a camera, and it gets
Speaker 2: a lot of attention, and you know that's just I mean,
Speaker 2: it may not even be his intent, but what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at is that it could still serve that purpose
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, these guys need to play better. So
Speaker 2: when you play yourself right again, it's like the spring game.
Speaker 2: If you dominate the spring game with your first string
Speaker 2: offense against your first ring defense, you know, you could
Speaker 2: It just depends on you know, it's if it's teams
Speaker 2: are split up evenly and it's like competitive. That's really
Speaker 2: like the best case scenario, right because when it comes
Speaker 2: to those that are trying to take something from it.
Speaker 2: So it's tough to know what really can can you know,
Speaker 2: because I've heard there are times where and I guess
Speaker 2: it was before Jeff was here, but various different coaches
Speaker 2: have given you good or bad coming from a scrimmage
Speaker 2: during camp and then it and then you find out
Speaker 2: that later it you know, didn't really you know, didn't
Speaker 2: didn't didn't really translate to any legitimate worry, and it
Speaker 2: didn't you know, at times you felt like maybe you
Speaker 2: were more confident than you should have been, and it
Speaker 2: was based off of something that a coach said that
Speaker 2: you know, once you got out there in a real game,
Speaker 2: didn't translate. So anyways, here's here's Jeff's opening comments following UH,
Speaker 2: following the the scrimmage on on Saturday. Well, here we go.
Speaker 4: Well, today was a good day overall from the strimmage standpoint,
Speaker 4: because me learned a lot about our team today. The
Speaker 4: defense was dominant, UH that question really played well, made plays.
Speaker 4: We've got turnovers, UH disrupted. The offense. Offense had a
Speaker 4: really bad data. So it was a really dismal day
Speaker 4: on offense where a bad lega plays, lega plays and
Speaker 4: turnovers and uh, you know a lot of things to
Speaker 4: work on it hopefully will it's to regroup and understand
Speaker 4: what to say. It was.
Speaker 2: All right, so let me tell you what just happened there.
Speaker 2: Did you notice? How did that? I mean, like the
Speaker 2: quality of that, Like I heard.
Speaker 3: Like a little bit of a jump in the middle
Speaker 3: of it, like a glitch or something.
Speaker 2: So that is audio from a video that of course
Speaker 2: is picking up like a bunch of like there's no
Speaker 2: mic in front of him directly. It's just the mic
Speaker 2: that is probably on someone's phone or the mic that's
Speaker 2: on someone's camera. And there's now this feature within this
Speaker 2: software that I play sound on that's called enhance speech.
Speaker 2: And I'm guessing that they do some level of like
Speaker 2: AI because it didn't it's it made him sound different,
Speaker 2: and it it like.
Speaker 3: It is funny that you mentioned that, because very well
Speaker 3: time I heard the voice, you were like, that's not
Speaker 3: thing that was Jeff Brown.
Speaker 2: This is again this probably sounds fine anyway, but like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn the enhance speech off because I don't
Speaker 2: think it sounded good at all, but you can tell
Speaker 2: audio quality won't be as good, but it'll sound like Jeff,
Speaker 2: and you know it won't start, you know, sounding like
Speaker 2: it's talking a different language.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: Well, today was a good day overall from the scrimmage
Speaker 4: at the standpoint because we learned a lot about our
Speaker 4: team today. Defense was dominant, that question really played well,
Speaker 4: made plays, I got turnovers, disrupted the offense. Offense had
Speaker 4: a really bad day. So it was a really incredible.
Speaker 1: Day on offense.
Speaker 2: See the background noise is so loud you can still
Speaker 2: hear what he's saying. But that's why, like I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe enhanced speech will make him sound because again here's
Speaker 2: enhanced speech, but it's at a lighter level. Let's see
Speaker 2: if it Let's see what this sounds like?
Speaker 4: A bad legative plays and turnovers and it's better. Right,
Speaker 4: A lot of things to work on it.
Speaker 3: A lot closer to the I can understand what it.
Speaker 4: Takes to what's going to take to win against good Powis.
Speaker 5: Defense was just dominant across the line of scrimmage or
Speaker 5: in the secondary or in all parts.
Speaker 4: Of oh you name it today. Defense that question got
Speaker 4: after the offense and uh, you know it was a
Speaker 4: butt kicking at play one to the end.
Speaker 2: A butt kicking from play one to the end. So
Speaker 2: I mean, again, as I said earlier, this isn't something
Speaker 2: I can lie to you and claim is uh is encouraging.
Speaker 2: I just can't also lie to you and say that
Speaker 2: it that it has me super worried because I think
Speaker 2: you typically hear coaches, you know, not do it to
Speaker 2: motivate guys, but like, this is not I don't think
Speaker 2: that uncommon. Again, it's not good news, but I'm also
Speaker 2: I mean, do I still think Loisve has got a
Speaker 2: chance to have a pretty good offense that scores a
Speaker 2: lot of points. Yes, because I think they have good
Speaker 2: personnel that could help them do that, and I think
Speaker 2: Jeff Brown's a really good coach offensively, So you know,
Speaker 2: not to be a middleman here, not taking a side,
Speaker 2: but I just I'm not too high or too low
Speaker 2: based off that I'd say I'm more. I mean, clearly
Speaker 2: it's not something you want to hear. But if the
Speaker 2: offense was lighting up the defense, I do think if
Speaker 2: it was the other way around, it would be viewed
Speaker 2: as a real big positive. And I think that's just
Speaker 2: because we expect Jeff Brohm to have a good offense here,
Speaker 2: because that's really what he's known for, not to say
Speaker 2: he can't, you know, have a team like last I
Speaker 2: mean last year's team. Again, the offense was good enough, clearly,
Speaker 2: and at times they were really good. They were balanced,
Speaker 2: they had two really good running backs, the only program
Speaker 2: that put two running backs in the NFL last year
Speaker 2: in the draft. But you know, defense was the real
Speaker 2: strength of that team for a good chunk of the season,
Speaker 2: in fact, for the vast majority of the season. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I think when you know last year, at
Speaker 2: times the offense really needed the defense to save him out.
Speaker 2: You hope that Jeff can have a better offense this year.
Speaker 2: And to hear him say that back to back weeks
Speaker 2: that the offense has been underwhelming and that today it
Speaker 2: was a butt kicking from play one to the end, again,
Speaker 2: that's not encouraging. But I also think that the Louisville
Speaker 2: defense has a chance to be really, really good. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe this is just the Homer way to look at it. Again,
Speaker 2: we'll find out once they actually get out there and
Speaker 2: play teams you know that you know can challenge them.
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, and I'm very you know, I think the
Speaker 2: first the first time that I think you could be
Speaker 2: really you should be really concerned, is that if in
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks you have like close games,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I hate these games
Speaker 2: in a way because you're playing an FCS opponent in
Speaker 2: one Actually, are they FCS Austin, Yes, yes, FB, you
Speaker 2: know you're playing an FCS opponent in Austin, p And
Speaker 2: then you're also playing Jacksonville State, who is you know,
Speaker 2: brand new to FBS like they were they were FCS
Speaker 2: not that long ago. So like, if you blow them
Speaker 2: out by five touchdowns, you really just kind of did
Speaker 2: what you were supposed to do, But it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you're great. And if you blow them out by or
Speaker 2: you only win by three touchdowns or something like that
Speaker 2: or seventeen, that will be concerning for me, no doubt.
Speaker 2: But I also have seen it happen enough to where
Speaker 2: like it's just human nature. You play at the level
Speaker 2: of your competition, So you know, if they are in
Speaker 2: close games with those two teams down the stretch, that's
Speaker 2: where the first that's the first time I'm gonna be okay,
Speaker 2: I'm worried now, but when they played Georgia Tech in
Speaker 2: Week three, that will be the first real opportunity to see,
Speaker 2: you know, not if they're gonna be good enough to
Speaker 2: potentially find themselves in the ACC championship game again, but
Speaker 2: again it's a realistic look against a team that is
Speaker 2: in your conference, that you know was competitive with you
Speaker 2: a year ago, that's expected to be you know, a
Speaker 2: decent team in your league this year. So you know,
Speaker 2: I guess the way I'm looking at it is Jeff
Speaker 2: can talk about the offense being underwhelming and the defense
Speaker 2: just kicking the offenses. But and that's again, that's not
Speaker 2: like good news. There's no way to spin it. That's
Speaker 2: not something you want to hear. But it's gonna take
Speaker 2: some time before we really know what to make of
Speaker 2: this group. And I think the injury to Colin Lacey
Speaker 2: is a bigger deal than me, you know, And I
Speaker 2: think it's quite clear. I think most Lowell fans would agree,
Speaker 2: knowing that a guy who you brought in that was
Speaker 2: a really big time transfer, one of the most productive
Speaker 2: returning receivers in college football. The fact that he's now
Speaker 2: got a broken collar bones expected to miss six to
Speaker 2: eight weeks. That's a bigger deal, in a bigger issue
Speaker 2: than you know, hearing that the offense was underwhelming, at
Speaker 2: least for me it is. But as we discussed earlier,
Speaker 2: I really, you know, hope that you could utilize the
Speaker 2: timing here and give these guys who are who are
Speaker 2: going to be playing behind Colin Lacy a chance to
Speaker 2: kind of show you what they can do. And yes,
Speaker 2: if they look good. Let's just say that because of
Speaker 2: this injury to Colin Lacey that you end up getting
Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy Callaway, he gets more, he gets more reps,
Speaker 2: and he has you know, a couple of good games
Speaker 2: against Austin p and against Jacksonville State. You know, that
Speaker 2: would be encouraging. That'd be good. It wouldn't mean that
Speaker 2: you should expect that whenever they play you know, real
Speaker 2: teams in the ACC. But you know, I Jeff Brawm
Speaker 2: over the years, and I want to I'll talk a
Speaker 2: little more about it a little bit later in the
Speaker 2: week when I have some you know, some real numbers
Speaker 2: and stuff to back it up. You know, many guys
Speaker 2: have looked like really really good players, and I guess
Speaker 2: they are good players. It's not like you know it was.
Speaker 2: It was a manipulation. But I feel like if if
Speaker 2: Jeff brom has a quarterback that can execute and do
Speaker 2: things he needs his quarterback to be able to do
Speaker 2: be consistent with the arm, be able to make throws downfield,
Speaker 2: and to be vertical, then I feel like there are
Speaker 2: guys on this team, like a callaway, like a Jayden Thompson,
Speaker 2: that that you know, it wouldn't be considered some big
Speaker 2: shock if they, you know, are plugged into those spots
Speaker 2: like uh cterists, cuterist Hicks. I think it is. I
Speaker 2: know it's Hicks. He's from Miami, a kid who's a
Speaker 2: ready shirt freshman. It was a big time recruit. Like
Speaker 2: these are guys that, like, if they end up in
Speaker 2: the in the you know, on the field because of
Speaker 2: this injury, and they make plays and they look like
Speaker 2: guys you can rely on, that's not gonna shock me
Speaker 2: because I think Jeff has shown throughout his career the
Speaker 2: ability to do exactly that. All right, let's get to
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Speaker 2: joining us talking some Louisville football, a former Louisville cardinal himself,
Speaker 2: mister Alex Cupper Cup. How are you doing today, brother?
Speaker 5: Oh, Nick, I'm doing good all around the world, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we got West Coast Cup joining us. He's
Speaker 2: on the other side of the country, but he's still
Speaker 2: made time for us, so we appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: That's all right, that's right.
Speaker 5: The conferences aren't the only things consolidating work work wise. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we go coast to coast, So just scouting, the scouting
Speaker 5: the routes out here on the in the California area.
Speaker 2: So what part of Cali?
Speaker 5: I'm down in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Nice, not this part, but yeah where we go up
Speaker 2: north too, So good stuff, good stuff, man, all right?
Speaker 2: So Colin Lacey broken collar bone six to eight weeks.
Speaker 2: That's what we know as of right now. Obviously, you
Speaker 2: never know how anybody's gonna heal when it comes to
Speaker 2: injuries and those kind of things. But from a former
Speaker 2: player's perspective, you know, I mean, I'm sure the same
Speaker 2: stuff you hear, the cliches that you hear a coach
Speaker 2: talk to the media about, it's the same thing you're
Speaker 2: probably hearing in the locker room, right Like, as much
Speaker 2: as it may just sound, you know, like what you're
Speaker 2: supposed to say, but it really is sort of a
Speaker 2: next man up kind of thing when that happens. I
Speaker 2: guess my curiosity when you played, did you guys have
Speaker 2: any like, was there ever any big injury that happened
Speaker 2: during camp that you felt like, you know, all right,
Speaker 2: this is going to change some things for us, because
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like anytime you have news that
Speaker 2: comes out of fall camp, especially like post scrimmage, it's
Speaker 2: usually something unfortunate, like an injury.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I have two, I mean really perfect examples to this,
Speaker 5: and they both had separate outcomes. So when you say, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, an injury to a key receiver, I remember,
Speaker 5: and this wasn't in camp, but it was. I think
Speaker 5: it was Cragthorpe's last year when Scott Long, who was
Speaker 5: our I mean, he was the he was the guy,
Speaker 5: Scott receiver, shout out Scott Long, my guy. When he
Speaker 5: got hurt, I was, it felt like a caught nail
Speaker 5: in the coffin, like literally our only guy that was
Speaker 5: producing at an extremely high level, you know very much? Yeah, leader, Yeah,
Speaker 5: all the all those elements, and you know, the depth.
Speaker 5: Depth wasn't there at that point. So it was like, man,
Speaker 5: we we were gonna be in for a long road,
Speaker 5: uh either way. And without Scott it was like geez
Speaker 5: was a huge loss. And then another one would have
Speaker 5: been Michael Lee, Michael Lee, Harris Charlie's second year, and
Speaker 5: I think that was around camp or that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: so his uh you know, but at that point, obviously
Speaker 5: we had cruited in some guys, you know, uh, Eli
Speaker 5: Rodgers stepped in right behind him, and you had you
Speaker 5: had Andre Elson and other guys that had come along
Speaker 5: and were ready to fill the void at least step
Speaker 5: up and show that they're ready to fill the void.
Speaker 5: So that's that's Those are the two scenarios. I think
Speaker 5: we're probably more towards the ladder when it comes to
Speaker 5: some of the talent that just hasn't hasn't proven itself yet. Uh,
Speaker 5: but there's there's only opportunities now, right, So you got
Speaker 5: you got your chance to step up and show what
Speaker 5: you can do these last these last couple fall camp
Speaker 5: practices before you start your game prep. You know, in
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: How common is it for someone in a in in
Speaker 2: camp in practice, maybe a guy you've played with multiple
Speaker 2: years to you know, maybe be a guy that And
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask you to put anybody's name out there,
Speaker 2: but I mean to me, I hear of guys that,
Speaker 2: you know, wow in camp, whether it be fall camp
Speaker 2: or even during springball. They look like they're really going
Speaker 2: to be able to make some noise and and have
Speaker 2: an impact, and it just never translates. And then there's
Speaker 2: other guys that maybe you would never expect to have
Speaker 2: an impact in a real game on Saturdays under the
Speaker 2: lights because they just have never shown it in camp
Speaker 2: or and scrimmages. Like how often does that happen to
Speaker 2: where sometimes you know, guys really just prove you wrong
Speaker 2: that they are either gonna give you way more than
Speaker 2: you expect it or the other way around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's typically if you're performing in practice,
Speaker 5: there they'll they'll be semblance of the game. He might
Speaker 5: not have the same production just because games. Elements of
Speaker 5: games go certain ways, and you don't get you don't
Speaker 5: get the opportunities you might have gotten. It might have
Speaker 5: been getting that are scripted in practice. But typically if
Speaker 5: there's a if there's a guy that just is you know,
Speaker 5: producing and or like you know, kind of middle of
Speaker 5: the road, but when you turn turn it on, uh,
Speaker 5: turn the lights on, he shows up. Those those do
Speaker 5: happen just because it's you know, they get they get
Speaker 5: that confidence. Confidence is so key and every sport but football,
Speaker 5: especially when you when you're majoring up essential you're moving.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of young guys typically that are unproven
Speaker 5: moving up into that Hey I can play at this
Speaker 5: level when you when you check that box in your head,
Speaker 5: your your game goes to a completely new level. You
Speaker 5: get that confidence that hey, I know what I'm doing,
Speaker 5: I can play fast, I can play with these the
Speaker 5: guys on these dudes on these on this field, and
Speaker 5: and from there, your Cadora's box is opened and you're right,
Speaker 5: you're a rock.
Speaker 2: And roll Yeah. I just I feel like it with
Speaker 2: Colin Lacy specifically. You know, there's clearly he's a guy
Speaker 2: they expect a lot out of and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: if he's going to miss six eight weeks, like that's
Speaker 2: that's a there's no way around it. That's not a
Speaker 2: good thing. But I also feel like there's kind of
Speaker 2: the you know, we don't really know exactly what we
Speaker 2: lost because we've not watched him play here at Louisville.
Speaker 2: And there's some other guys that also come in via
Speaker 2: the portal that may be able to really utilize this
Speaker 2: chance to get some to get some extra reps. That's
Speaker 2: something you know, it's a guy who's never played the game. Uh,
Speaker 2: I never would have thought about it. But yeah, like
Speaker 2: depending on where you are on the depth chart, like
Speaker 2: in practice as far as reps, like you may not
Speaker 2: get the same situation as far as like you may
Speaker 2: not even get the same opportunity to show which you
Speaker 2: can do if you're somebody that's slotted a second or
Speaker 2: third string, right, No, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean that's that's something where you at this point
Speaker 5: in camp, you are starting to settle in kind and
Speaker 5: the rotations, and you know, you've had two scrimmages go
Speaker 5: by and you might not have gotten you might have
Speaker 5: gotten a look and did weren't able to capitalize on
Speaker 5: your looks or what have you. Now it's like, oh man,
Speaker 5: you know there's a door that's opened. Unfortunately for calling
Speaker 5: Lacey it's you know, via injury. But you know there's
Speaker 5: there's other guys that that are going to get reps
Speaker 5: that you know, the quantity of reps go up, and
Speaker 5: they the coaching staff probably puts other guys, you know,
Speaker 5: mixes them around and sees, you know, what, what potential
Speaker 5: they may have in certain positions, and that's working them
Speaker 5: into the slot or working them into some of these
Speaker 5: motions that you see. You know, coach Brahm does a
Speaker 5: good job of getting guys in space and trying to
Speaker 5: dicipher where you know, where the weaknesses the defenses are.
Speaker 5: That seems like a guy that's that's the role Lacey
Speaker 5: was going to play. He was going to be a
Speaker 5: guy that you move a try and get him in
Speaker 5: a favorable matchup and let them go to work.
Speaker 2: Alex Cuppers our guest joining us here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety former LoVa cardinal As we talk some Louisville football.
Speaker 2: So when you hear coach Brown back to back weeks
Speaker 2: really talk about the offense struggling, and he really emphasized
Speaker 2: that on Saturday following their scrimmage, but he also acknowledged that,
Speaker 2: you know, the defense had a big part in that,
Speaker 2: but again putting blame on the offense as well. You know,
Speaker 2: you have the ability to look at it from a
Speaker 2: guy who you know, you know, Jeff probably a lot
Speaker 2: better than most of us, and you know you've been
Speaker 2: you've been in those those scrimmages before. Like should fans
Speaker 2: like how should fans take that? Because I don't I
Speaker 2: can't lie to people and say that I'm overly concerned.
Speaker 2: But I'm also not gonna act like that's good to hear.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like that's just what you would
Speaker 2: expect to Like, He's not gonna lie he's not going
Speaker 2: to be dishonest about it. But it also hasn't had
Speaker 2: me thinking, oh, we may be in trouble here.
Speaker 5: No, you're all your typical coach. You know, there's never
Speaker 5: you're never going to get a coach. I don't believe
Speaker 5: there's ever been a coach that comes out of a
Speaker 5: fall camp scrimmage practice and it's just rave reviews. My
Speaker 5: team is amazing, They're going to do great. You know,
Speaker 5: it's guaranteed. I'm booking it right now. We're going to
Speaker 5: shock the world. That's that is very few and far between.
Speaker 5: It is always that we need to get better, we
Speaker 5: need to progress faster.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's typically you know, I never paid attention to them
Speaker 5: when I was playing, so I don't know if the
Speaker 5: guys do. But if there's there's guys that are, you know,
Speaker 5: hawking social media and getting clips, it's it is you know,
Speaker 5: oh man, you know, usually you won't sinkle out one guy,
Speaker 5: but it's this group needs to needs to step up
Speaker 5: and produce, you know, whatever whatever position group that would be.
Speaker 5: So those little notes are typically trying to push the
Speaker 5: team along. You know, you're never you're never going to
Speaker 5: be as good as you think you are, and you're
Speaker 5: never as bad as you think you are, but you
Speaker 5: need to always want to improve and want to push
Speaker 5: yourself because if you're not, the other twelve teams on
Speaker 5: your schedule are, and you're going to be in for
Speaker 5: a root awake or root awakening in the week's come.
Speaker 2: Were you surprised to see where Louis Will ended up
Speaker 2: in the preseason acc Media, Paul. I know it's something
Speaker 2: people quickly for good about once the actual season gets
Speaker 2: here and you see where teams actually stand. But coming
Speaker 2: in at number was it number five? Number four? I
Speaker 2: mean that that didn't shock me because I know there's
Speaker 2: been some love out there about Miami reloading again with
Speaker 2: talent like they always do. NC State ended up finishing strong,
Speaker 2: They've got a new quarterback. I guess my question is
Speaker 2: is there a team that you see that you're in,
Speaker 2: that that you know that bothers not bothers you, Because again,
Speaker 2: we all know the preseason stuff is quickly forgotten, but
Speaker 2: like I just felt like when you come off of
Speaker 2: a ten win season, even though we know the schedule
Speaker 2: was beneficial, I just feel like Louivill would have walked
Speaker 2: in to some more love in the preseason than than
Speaker 2: than they're getting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when you think about, like, why do.
Speaker 2: People still believe it in Miami Cup.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly going down there. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 5: really because unfortunately we ended up losing those last couple
Speaker 5: games of the season. That that was that was a
Speaker 5: really good win going down the King Road, clinching clenching
Speaker 5: share of the the ACC getting getting your chance to
Speaker 5: playing that in that game. I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 5: tough environment. Anytime you go on the road, you'll hear
Speaker 5: You'll hear every coach say that, and it's very true
Speaker 5: if you're going on the road in conference. Those are
Speaker 5: wins that you you keep up on the board. Those
Speaker 5: are big and yeah, you're gonna have to fight for
Speaker 5: some this year for sure, but yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 5: you think about Clemson's ho home you know, nine win season,
Speaker 5: and and you know Florida State obviously what they did
Speaker 5: last year and now reloading and now that you see
Speaker 5: them trying to catch a groove and getting into groove.
Speaker 5: Miami is one that's interesting. Virginia Tech is another one
Speaker 5: that's kind of I mean, it's there's there's kind of
Speaker 5: like the soft type. It's like, man, I got a
Speaker 5: lot of dudes returning, are they going to be able
Speaker 5: to step up and really you know, win meaningful games?
Speaker 5: You know, remains to be seen. But that's another one
Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, are they good are they not?
Speaker 5: You know, Miami for some reason gets a lot of
Speaker 5: love and praise because you know, they were the first
Speaker 5: one to say how much they were writing checks for
Speaker 5: and their nil deals whatever. So that's just what you
Speaker 5: you know, that comes with the hooplah. But the end
Speaker 5: of the day, you got to you got to prove
Speaker 5: between the lines. And you know coach coach Brown's record,
Speaker 5: you know, starting last year and then back at Purdue,
Speaker 5: is that you know, when his teams show up, they
Speaker 5: show up ready to play, that they don't lay a
Speaker 5: lot of dues. So no, I think for slotted good
Speaker 5: and we we we have teams on the schedule where
Speaker 5: we can prove that we're we're either better or you know,
Speaker 5: are not as good as how they ranked us.
Speaker 2: Cup you are the man. I appreciate you making time
Speaker 2: for us during your busy day of travel. So again,
Speaker 2: big thanks and we will talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: My friend sounds good. Nick have a good week man.
Speaker 2: All right. That's Alex cover for always appreciate his time.
Speaker 2: Whoop see. I went to I went to, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: pop the phone down after we ended the conversation, and
Speaker 2: instead of turning cup off, I turned my mic off. Sorry,
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