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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Studio A Here at Proven Winners,

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show

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<v Speaker 1>with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick weisst and our engineer and

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<v Speaker 1>producer Adrianna Robinson. Last week our show was just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>This week don't do it. We're gonna go down the

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<v Speaker 1>list today and Stacy, I'm gonna take this occasion to

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<v Speaker 1>have a rant, at least right off the top on

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<v Speaker 1>three things. However, let me say it is Stacy who

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<v Speaker 1>always says, when in doubt, don't don't, don't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. So here we go. My number one item.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an AI problem. We have an AI problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we do have that problem too, We have that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't order, don't get duped online. And it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>worse since we did that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous, it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, the AI I'm referring to as automatic irrigation,

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<v Speaker 1>don't set it and forget it. But the number one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that drives me crazy is I'm still convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>automatic irrigation is meant for turf lawns, not woody plants

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<v Speaker 1>or shrubs in your landscape, they should be watered when

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<v Speaker 1>they need water. So often in the garden center, I

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<v Speaker 1>will have someone come up to me with pictures on

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<v Speaker 1>their phone, or in some occasions I've stopped by homes

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<v Speaker 1>like I did this past week, and sure enough, in

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape there are irrigation heads above the ground right

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<v Speaker 1>behind the shrubs. The plants are getting drenched, or even worse,

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<v Speaker 1>the upper profile of the soil is drenched and drowning.

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<v Speaker 1>Down below it's dry as dust because they're just sprinkling

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<v Speaker 1>for ten minutes and these plants die. So just bear

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<v Speaker 1>in mind that, in my opinion, much of this irrigation

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<v Speaker 1>that we use, but people want the convenience so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have to think about watering. So in

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<v Speaker 1>early spring we set the irrigation system and then we

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<v Speaker 1>walk away, not paying attention to the weather. But it

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<v Speaker 1>kills a lot of plants, it can.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think part of the issue too, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the people who put in irrigation systems, those control modules

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty complicated. Yeah, they are not really designed for

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<v Speaker 2>the average person to just pop out there and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to change zone one to water once a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and then my shrubs will get the right amount of water.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work that way. They're actually quite complex and

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<v Speaker 2>can be very difficult to figure out. So, but that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean it's not possible to reprogram them. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an irrigation system, it doesn't mean to rip

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Just contact your landscape company, your irrigation company

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<v Speaker 2>and work with them to understand the zones and come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a plan that actually works for your yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, they're going to set it and forget it

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't have the time to sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>think in depth about all your different plants and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean that they can't work with you

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<v Speaker 2>to develop what you have into a more suitable program

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<v Speaker 2>for irrigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It just drives me crazy. And I see it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and they wonder why the plants are strung.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me burn thunderwood.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you love it when it's pouring rain and the

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<v Speaker 2>fountain the irrigation's just going off like there's no tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and it's running down the street. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, drives me nuts. Here's another one and we already

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<v Speaker 1>touched on it. Yeah, that whole AI thing. I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>people now more than ever, coming in asking for the red, white,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue hostas, et cetera, et cetera. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>just read the reviews online, these people got a package

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<v Speaker 1>of seeds, not plants, and of course the seeds didn't

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<v Speaker 1>germinate or materialize into what they were looking for. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>burn thunderwood. That's my new phrase, thunderwood is a poisoned sumac.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's a phrase when you're ticked off, burn

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<v Speaker 1>thunder I like it. Yeah, I'm going to use Well, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know the other thing about these ai plants, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking as two people who have spent a long time

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<v Speaker 2>in the horticulture industry, and with this show as evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not trying to keep any cool stuff from you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about it all the time. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a secret treasure trove of really amazing, wild,

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<v Speaker 2>wacky plants that we've all just been you know, gatekeeping

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<v Speaker 2>from you because you're whatever, not a good enough gardener.

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<v Speaker 2>That does not exist. They are computer generated, specifically designed

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<v Speaker 2>to appeal to, you know, your most basic visual instincts

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<v Speaker 2>and go ooh, I love purple and that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fluorescent purple hosta with paint streaks is exactly what I need.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I've never seen this before. You've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen it before because it doesn't exist. And uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't think that, Like, yes, innovations happen, but innovations,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I would say the wildest innovation that we

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<v Speaker 2>have had in the last you know, ten years is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the glow in the dark petunias, not all of

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<v Speaker 2>that crazy stuff you're seeing with AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another one for you. Don't do it. This one

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<v Speaker 1>may be controversial. Don't put down landscape fabric and multure

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<v Speaker 1>plants with stone mulch. Don't do it. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the stone is good for the plants.

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<v Speaker 1>The stone may look nice when you initially put it in,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to become a maintenance nightmare. The weeds

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<v Speaker 1>are going to grow in between the cracks and crevices,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you were to spray the weeds with

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<v Speaker 1>a herbicide, let's say, you're still going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>pull them or remove them. They're going to look awful.

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<v Speaker 1>So my opinion is, if you're thinking about using stone

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<v Speaker 1>mulch around your plants, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it don't do it, I agree, at least for Michigan. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, especially out west where the climate can

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<v Speaker 2>be very arid, stone mulch is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>your best beat because you don't have to worry about fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course a lot of those desert plants they

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<v Speaker 2>look just fine with the stone mulch. But over here

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<v Speaker 2>in Michigan, where we're growing these temperate plants, generally from

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<v Speaker 2>more humid climates, it looks out of place. It's typically

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<v Speaker 2>very bad for the plants. And I cannot tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>over my many years here how many people I have

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<v Speaker 2>seen kill or very nearly kill their plants through that

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<v Speaker 2>combination of landscape fabric and rock. And let's not talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that it is extremely hard to put

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<v Speaker 2>down and extremely hard to remove. If you change your

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<v Speaker 2>mind because your plants are dying, it is the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't have fire danger a regular shredded

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<v Speaker 2>bark organic mulch, it's actually gonna enrich your soil is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be far better. It's going to still have

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<v Speaker 2>weed prevention, it's going to be better for the plants.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to enrich your soil, and you won't have

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<v Speaker 2>all those liabilities of a stone mulch, got it, and

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<v Speaker 2>rocks in your shoe, which no one likes.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I call them riot rocks. Just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do it. Don't ignore canopy trees. You've got some

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful trees in your neighborhood overhead. Again, every time storms

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<v Speaker 1>come through, we're reminded of the danger of these trees

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<v Speaker 1>and what could happen. Any good arborist will tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ignore the trees. Arborists are worth their weight in gold.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that just because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>son who's an arborist. But tree maintenance is important. So

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<v Speaker 1>don't ignore your trees. I'm not saying don't eliminate. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying eliminate these trees. I'm saying, maintain them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>winter pruning can be done. Take care of your trees,

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention, and don't have a tree fall on your house.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's for sure. And you know, even little things

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<v Speaker 2>that we think of as regular maintenance for other plants

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<v Speaker 2>in our yard, like fertilizing, like watering, can make a

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<v Speaker 2>huge difference to a tree's overall health, and especially older trees.

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<v Speaker 2>If you live in a soil that's not super fertile

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<v Speaker 2>like our sandy soils out here. You know, fertilizing every

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years can make a huge difference in the

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<v Speaker 2>healthier tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't volcano mult oh, don't do it. Don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, it's a good idea. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>copy your neighbors. That's what happens. Somebody does something and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else in the neighborhood then has to have that

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<v Speaker 1>plant or do it the way their neighbor did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that, you know, be original. Here's a controversial

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<v Speaker 1>one for you, Stacey. Don't try to This is real controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to grow succulents indoors. I love succulents outside,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't try to grow them indoors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and no, Well, don't have reasonable expectations if you

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<v Speaker 2>grow them indoors, because I do successfully grow some succulents

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<v Speaker 2>indoors with pure neglect and they do great. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing is all of these really cool akavirias

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff that are for sale, and you buy this cute,

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<v Speaker 2>tidy little rosette you can't wait to get at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be so amazing and that thing

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<v Speaker 2>gets back to your house and it just starts elongating

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<v Speaker 2>and stretching, and everyone's like, what happened? I can't grow anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, certainly jade plants that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>are okay. But you do need to know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen inside.

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<v Speaker 1>And like we said in our just do it show,

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<v Speaker 1>think about the environment that these plants grow in so

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<v Speaker 1>you can better care for them. I told you it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be controversial. Yeah, well so all right. So Stacy is

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<v Speaker 1>the one who always says, when in doubt, don't so

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<v Speaker 1>in her honor, I wrote this week's limerick thinking of you, Stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes at the end, okay. It can be a

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<v Speaker 1>real temptation, a quick fixed cultivation. This miraculous breakthrough could

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<v Speaker 1>be your bugaboo and not your plants salvation. My neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>sought out advice for his backyard paradise. Don't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>I said to my neighbor, trying to save him some labor.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't listen and paid the price. You see, the

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<v Speaker 1>moral of these silly rhymes can save you grief sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if you live next to Stacy, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the distance is spacey. If hanging up back porch wind chimes,

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<v Speaker 1>just don't don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't you know. You know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>love for windchimes out there, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't want to listen to clinging metal all night.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a controversial show. We're going to get letters,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where the topic

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<v Speaker 2>of today is just don't do it. In contrast to

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<v Speaker 2>last episode, which was just do it. So last time

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about things that you should definitely do.

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<v Speaker 2>This time we're talking about the things that you should

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<v Speaker 2>avoid doing. You know, mostly from a horticultural perspective. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>this could become very taste oriented and we could go

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<v Speaker 2>on all episode about the things that we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't think people should be doing. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not talking about our personal taste. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about horticultural Uh you know advice here.

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<v Speaker 1>Like roots need oxygen, so don't And then I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, don't bury your plants. But then I think, okay, etymology, Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>is it berry or bury? What is it? Don't say it.

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. Is or I would say Barry bury bury Erry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be. Okay, maybe it's an English word that

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<v Speaker 1>People look funny at me when I say bury.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it sounds a little strange. It's also the Japanese

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<v Speaker 2>word for pig burry.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I don't think it's a Japanese word for pig.

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<v Speaker 2>noise that pigs make.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not a ink.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not ak. There's different animal sounds you can find

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<v Speaker 2>them online. Different cultures interpret animal sounds completely differently. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting. If you're into that so fascinating. Yes, always

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<v Speaker 2>something to learn the things we learn on this show,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should learn because that's what gardening is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>So anytime you're curious about something, you say, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look that up, find out more, uh, and do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a thing you should do. But we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what you shouldn't do. And when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Trial is all about plant that you should plant in

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<v Speaker 2>your yard or at least consider planting in your yard

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<v Speaker 2>because it looks great and solves problems and is easy

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<v Speaker 2>to grow, like the rest of the proven Winner's color

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<v Speaker 2>choice shrubs. And when I've been saying, when in doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't for a while now right like probably two years.

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<v Speaker 2>And the majority of the times that I use this

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<v Speaker 2>phrase is regarding pruning, and it's specifically regarding quydrange of

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<v Speaker 2>pruning most often, because hydrangs are the plants that are

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<v Speaker 2>most often pruned wrong. And you know, it's very it's

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<v Speaker 2>confusing until you you know, are able to see this

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<v Speaker 2>all mapped out. But some hydrangers bloom on old wood,

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<v Speaker 2>which is to say that they create their flower buds

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<v Speaker 2>for the following year as soon as they finish blooming

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<v Speaker 2>in the current one. So a big leaf hydrangea, which

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<v Speaker 2>and a big leaf angel like this starts to set

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<v Speaker 2>its flower buds in August, So in August twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four it was sitting it's July twenty twenty five flower buds,

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<v Speaker 2>and have those flower buds on all through the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now take, on the other hand, something like a panicle

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<v Speaker 2>hydrangel like Limelight or Pinky Winky. These bloom on new wood,

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<v Speaker 2>which is to say that they don't carry flower buds

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<v Speaker 2>through the winter. They only start to create them after

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<v Speaker 2>they start to leaf out in spring. So right now

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<v Speaker 2>panicle hydrangees are only just starting to create their flower buds,

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<v Speaker 2>which are going to be open in about two months

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<v Speaker 2>or so, probably closer to six weeks. So for the reason,

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<v Speaker 2>people get really confused about pruning hydranges, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, when in doubt, don't because if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't prune any of your hydranges, you are far likely

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<v Speaker 2>to get better results than if you prune all of

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<v Speaker 2>your hydranges. But the key really is when I say

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<v Speaker 2>just don't do it. Don't prune your big leaf Hydrangees

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<v Speaker 2>by all means plant them. You should absolutely plant them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're fabulous, They are completely emblematic of some summer. They

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<v Speaker 2>are a plant that does need special sighting. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that you are placing it somewhere if

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<v Speaker 2>you live in a cold climate where it can get

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<v Speaker 2>a little protection from the worst of the winter weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Moist mulch and wood mulch soil definitely not stones. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen plenty of hydrange of macrophilla take a nose dye

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<v Speaker 2>from being planted in a stone bed. So planting them.

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<v Speaker 2>Sighting them is very very important. But once you have

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<v Speaker 2>them sighted, not pruning them is so is so crucial

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<v Speaker 2>to being able to enjoy them, because if you prune them,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to flower. Now they can rebloom, and

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<v Speaker 2>today's plant on trial, let's dance big band does rebloom,

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't necessarily want to count on that rebloom

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<v Speaker 2>because what that means is you still missed all of

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<v Speaker 2>the initial bloom in July, so you still miss out

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<v Speaker 2>on dozens and dozens of flowers. And here's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about big leaf hydrangees. And that's not just true of

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<v Speaker 2>Let's Dance Big Band, but all big leaf hydrangees. And

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<v Speaker 2>this I think is one of the most egregious things

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<v Speaker 2>about it. It looks like it should be pruned it. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those plants when you're going through and

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<v Speaker 2>fall and doing your fall clean up, and then you're,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to put the garden to bed, going

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<v Speaker 2>through in spring, trying to wake the garden up and

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<v Speaker 2>get everything cleaned out. If you come across a big

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<v Speaker 2>leaf hydrangea and you aren't familiar with what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>you were going to get those snips out of your

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<v Speaker 2>pocket and you were going to cut this whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>back to nubs because it just looks like it should

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<v Speaker 2>be premne. And I'm not even saying it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it's dead necessarily. There is just something about those stems.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's begging you to cut it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just straight sticks out of the soil, and

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<v Speaker 1>you feel you're doing your due diligence by chopping them back.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've done it myself before I knew what I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing, so you're in good company, I guess at least,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's just something about the color too

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<v Speaker 2>that makes them look kind of dead. So win in doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't prune, no matter what type of hydrangea it is,

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<v Speaker 2>because nothing bad is going to happen to the hydrangeas

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<v Speaker 2>that can be pruned if you don't prune, and something

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<v Speaker 2>good is far more likely and going to happen if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't prune the ones that can't be prune, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people it's easy to learn the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>If you spend some time thinking about it and observing

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<v Speaker 2>your plants, you can easily start to discern what those

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<v Speaker 2>differences are. But it does take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, dedication to learning and identifying those factors. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what makes let's dance big band reblooming hydrangea bigger different,

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<v Speaker 2>bigger different than others is that the flowers are very large,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I just said bigger. So it does

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<v Speaker 2>have extra large flowers. But one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>is one of our most vivid big leaf hydranges. So

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<v Speaker 2>the color of big leaf hydrangeas is related to soil chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also related to temperature because you're gonna generally get

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<v Speaker 2>brighter colors in cooler temperatures than in very very hot

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<v Speaker 2>temperatures because plants synthesize their pigments at night, so cool

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<v Speaker 2>nights let them synthesize more effectively and you get much

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<v Speaker 2>better pigments in color. And it's also based on genete,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're you know, every individual hydrangea is going to bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>These big leaf hydranges is going to bloom as a

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<v Speaker 2>reflection of its growing conditions temperature and soil chemistry and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. But it's still going to have kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a range that it can attain, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>range of blue, a range of pink, and the just

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it. Part of let's stand's big band is

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<v Speaker 2>that this plant looks so gorgeous in all of its

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<v Speaker 2>color iterations that you don't even have to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>trying to change the flower color if it isn't blooming

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<v Speaker 2>the color that you want, because it looks so good

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<v Speaker 2>in bright purple, which is the farthest it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go towards the blue side or that bright almost red

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<v Speaker 2>type of pink. Now, generally speaking, big leaf hydrangeas, the

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<v Speaker 2>more red tones they have in them, the less likely

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<v Speaker 2>they are to go to blue. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>blue hydrange is like true blue. Big leaf hydranges will

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<v Speaker 2>it most go kind of a pale pink, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>swing more towards the blue. Plants that swing more towards

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<v Speaker 2>brighter or more intense pinks generally won't go all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to blue. They'll go to purple. And the purple

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<v Speaker 2>is gorgeous. Like a lot of people think that the

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<v Speaker 2>purple happens when you're just like in that almost acidic environment,

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<v Speaker 2>and all hydrangs can kind of go through a purple

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<v Speaker 2>ish phase as they go through that, But really it's

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<v Speaker 2>primarily genetics, and this is one of those plants that

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<v Speaker 2>will be an absolutely glorious deep purple, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>I might like even better than the blue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the blue's great. I love it, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>But I love that deep, rich purple that a good

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<v Speaker 2>well grown hydrangea macrophilla like Let's Stance big band can

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<v Speaker 1>It's gorgeous, it really is. And I'm just sitting back

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<v Speaker 1>listening and enjoying my drink because this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>an important topic that causes a lot of confusion for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so just planges, just don't prune them if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're doing. It's very very simple. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a really really interesting plant. Another thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know about, just don't do it. And this

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<v Speaker 2>would be another one of my just don'ts if it

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<v Speaker 2>is at all possible, and that is don't use high

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<v Speaker 2>phosphorus fertilizers. Interest So, in general, high phosphorus fertilizers are

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<v Speaker 2>bad because most American soils, in most residential areas have

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<v Speaker 2>more than enough phosphorus for your plant's needs. And a

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<v Speaker 2>plant can't benefit from extra phosphorus. So it can't go like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh great, I got all this extra phosphorus. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like be a beefcake right now. It can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens is that the soil can only hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to so many phosphorus ions and they run off,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially out here in West Michigan, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>land in Lake Michigan in one of our ponds and

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<v Speaker 2>rivers and lakes and all of that, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>causes algael blooms in the water. Now, low phosphorus fertilizers

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<v Speaker 2>are especially important for big leaf hydrangeas because if you

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<v Speaker 2>have high phosphorus, it is going to tie up aluminium

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<v Speaker 2>ions in the soils causes a chemical reaction. The aluminum

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<v Speaker 2>ion are not free for the plant to take up,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore, if you are hoping for more of a

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<v Speaker 2>purple or blue color, it won't actually happen. So look

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<v Speaker 2>for low phosphorus fertilizers. If you are growing Let's Dance,

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<v Speaker 2>big band reblooming Hydrangea or any reblooming hydrangea and are

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<v Speaker 2>looking to go more on the blue or purple side,

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<v Speaker 2>so do plant it. Don't do any of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you missed any of those things, you'll find them

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<v Speaker 2>on our shutouts at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll also find Let's Stance Big Band Hydrangea at your

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<v Speaker 2>local garden center. Ready to get into your garden. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a little break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where it is our

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<v Speaker 2>if you have one of those, you can reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to us at help HLP at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>We only have time for a few questions every episode,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you need a question answered more quickly, just

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<v Speaker 2>go to Proven Winners Color Choice dot com and one

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<v Speaker 2>of our horticultures. We'll be happy to get you an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did want to just kind of address in

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<v Speaker 2>general to all of our listeners, especially if you are

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<v Speaker 2>in the Midwest. If you feel like your vegetable garden

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<v Speaker 2>is behind, it is not just you. Uh, you are

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<v Speaker 2>in good company. It has been an extremely cool spring, unbelievable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>The plants, basil, cucumbers, tomatoes ouch.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that heat loving stuff. I was planting some

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<v Speaker 2>seeds in the garden the other day and it said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so when soil temperatures are seventy and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't even know if that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen this year. I'm sewing this stuff right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a very chilly spring. So if you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your vent shtable garden has just been poking along, you

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<v Speaker 2>are in good company. It's not you, it's everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it too much, and we'll just hope

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<v Speaker 2>for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh you're you're right here in Michigan in the north,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been unusual this year, and in the garden center industry,

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<v Speaker 1>we were grappling with frost and cold on June first.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wants that. I mean, come on, you're done

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<v Speaker 2>with that by then? Done too much work, so done

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<v Speaker 2>with Yeah, my friend had a frost on June first too,

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<v Speaker 2>so lost a bunch of tomatoes. Anyway, just a little

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<v Speaker 2>assurance there from your friends here at the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a nice note from a listener named Nedda,

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<v Speaker 2>who we answered a question for her last summer about

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<v Speaker 2>our iris and she wrote us to say thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your terrific advice. Last August, I submitted a question

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<v Speaker 2>about some irises that never bloomed my sister's yard. Thanks

448
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<v Speaker 2>to your expertise, I dug them up, divided them, and

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<v Speaker 2>replanted them higher. The irises ended up being shared in

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<v Speaker 2>three yards and they all bloomed a beautiful shade of orange.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the most gorgeous orange aren't just not

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<v Speaker 2>a color you often see in bearded iris. So not

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<v Speaker 2>only did she get iris blooms, she got really really

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<v Speaker 2>cool iris blooms. And she said thanks again, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wish everyone a wonderful growing season. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was so nice for her to tell us that our

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<v Speaker 2>advice worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It is nice, and this is the don't do it show,

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<v Speaker 1>but it proves the fact that sometimes, Netta, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got to bend over and split your plants. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>great for your iris and your neighbors will be entertained.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what happened here.

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<v Speaker 2>So so do it. Yes, take our advice. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get that confused and then don't do it show,

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<v Speaker 2>So do take our advice. Okay, we're trying the best

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<v Speaker 2>week here to help you out, So what have we

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<v Speaker 2>got in the mail day?

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<v Speaker 1>James Wrights, Hi, I have had this bloomerang lilac in

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<v Speaker 1>the front of my residence for about four years. I

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<v Speaker 1>garden in Ottawa, Ontario. I took this picture today May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. I think this is the best that it's

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<v Speaker 1>looked since I planted it from the garden center pot.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten a couple of comments this year from neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>about how full it looks. My question is how to

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<v Speaker 1>prune to get a second flush of blooms later this season.

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<v Speaker 1>It bloomed very nicely last spring as well, so I

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<v Speaker 1>pruned trim deadheaded to get reblooming, but sadly didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any reblooming. I want to try again this year, wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if I may have done something in the way I

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<v Speaker 1>pruned it last year that stopped that second flush of flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So, and he did include a photo and this

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<v Speaker 2>plant is looking absolutely gorgeous in James's yard, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I have seen this everywhere. So the flip

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<v Speaker 2>side of the cool spring is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the flower colors are just gorgeous. I was saying when

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking in Plants on Trial about how hydrange

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<v Speaker 2>of flower color can be influenced by temperatures. Many, many

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<v Speaker 2>flowers can be and it's not that they change colors,

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<v Speaker 2>just that they can be more or less vivid depending

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<v Speaker 2>on nighttime temperatures. And these cool nights have been outstanding

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<v Speaker 2>for lilacs. I feel like they are the most vivid

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<v Speaker 2>I have ever seen. So, James, whether you are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about bloomerang, reblooming lilac, or any reblooming shrub, the key

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<v Speaker 2>to getting the reblooms. So the plant already bloomed on

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<v Speaker 2>old wood in spring. Now you're going for that new

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<v Speaker 2>wood bloom later in the season. The key on any

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<v Speaker 2>reblooming shrub to getting that rebloom is that the plant

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<v Speaker 2>needs to put on as much new growth as possible

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<v Speaker 2>after that spring bloom. So what's happening really? And you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Ottawa, Canada, so it's probably a bit cooler there.

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<v Speaker 2>But this also tends to coincide with warming weather. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, by this time it's June, it's July, it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting much much warmer out, the days are getting longer,

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<v Speaker 2>rainfall all starts to maybe decline, and so you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get as much possible growth as you can with

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<v Speaker 2>this plant, whereas nature's like, WHOA, slow down the growth here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's summertime and we're going to put the

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<v Speaker 2>brakes on things. But if the plant does not put

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<v Speaker 2>on enough new growth in this period, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to create those flower buds. So one

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<v Speaker 2>of the strategies towards that can be pruning. Pruning, is

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<v Speaker 2>it necessary. I've said on the show that when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to bloomerang, I very much embrace pruning because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the way the seed heads look. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>just don't do it for me. Don't like the way

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<v Speaker 2>they look like green bananas with cork dots on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's something about them. I really just like.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you lightly trim it, you don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>prune it like get heavy shears out. You're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to give it a light trim and take off the

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<v Speaker 2>thin sort of stems along the outer edge of the plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Get those seeds out. Now, everything that was a single

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<v Speaker 2>growing point is at least two growing points. That's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be double the amount of new growth. That's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be double the amount of flowers. You also need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep watering and fertilizing. And I'm not usually a

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<v Speaker 2>huge like you know, fertilizer like crazy, but for the

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<v Speaker 2>best rebloom, fertilizer really is crucial because you need that

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<v Speaker 2>plant to put on taking that energy and put on

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<v Speaker 2>that growth for the best rebloom. So I would say

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<v Speaker 2>now is a great time to put down another application

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<v Speaker 2>of fertilizer. Like I said, there's nothing special to trimming it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you trimming it was wrong. Was

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that it didn't flower last year. It probably

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't put on enough growth. So fertilize it, water

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<v Speaker 2>it if needed, give it that trim. Trimming it does

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<v Speaker 2>delay the rebloom slightly compared to an untrimmed plant, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have found that they rebloom longer into fall, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worth it. You can try it one

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<v Speaker 2>year one way and one year or the other and

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<v Speaker 2>see what you think. But it's nothing that you did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of making sure that that plant

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<v Speaker 2>keeps growing vigorously and healthily so that you get the

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<v Speaker 2>best display.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great advice. Stacey Audrey writes to us Hi, I

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<v Speaker 1>love your show. My partner and I are getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to move into our first home together in West Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Super excited to do some landscape design with our new space.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice where to start with garden

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<v Speaker 1>design basics? Any books you recommend. I've heard you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of outdoor garden rooms before. We'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about that and other design principles ideas if possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Hoping to go with a cottage garden feel throughout the property.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a decent grasp of plant selection, but feel

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<v Speaker 1>less confident with placement, especially starting from scratch. Would greatly

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate any tips or resources.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much for your question, Audor, and

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations on your new home. If you didn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>our Just Do It show last episode, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that for my hedge advice for new homeowners,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on what it looks like. But yes, I do

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<v Speaker 2>have a great resource for you, and that is a

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<v Speaker 2>British garden designer named John Brooks. So he is a

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<v Speaker 2>very well known garden designer and he wrote a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of excellent garden design books for homeowners and gardeners. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they are some of the best that I have

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And he's just really good at sort of

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<v Speaker 2>taking a lot of these concepts and distilling them into

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<v Speaker 2>a way that makes sense. There's a number of them

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, they're not I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's still writing. He's probably quite old now, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can certainly find, you know, used copies, probably at

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<v Speaker 2>your library or you know, on the Advanced Book Exchange

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. He is really so inspiring and

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<v Speaker 2>such a great teacher for garden design. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing I would say, and this would be my

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<v Speaker 2>advice for anyone. Anytime you're you know, taking a walk

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<v Speaker 2>or driving around and you see a landscape or an

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<v Speaker 2>element of a landscape that resonates with you, don't just

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<v Speaker 2>go oh, that's pretty and move on. Take time to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of analyze what's actually happening there and think about

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<v Speaker 2>what is it that you like. Is it the color?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the plants in it? Is it the combination?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the scale of those plants to the building?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it their placement. There's all of these things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think once you start to cultivate that mentality of

587
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<v Speaker 2>reading and analyzing things that you like, then you're much

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<v Speaker 2>more able to start reinterpreting those concepts. At home.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. One person i'd suggest also following. We've had her

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before, and that is Jan Johnson. Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>spelled not with Ann on the end, but e n.

592
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<v Speaker 1>She wrote a book called garden Topia. But what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is follow her on Instagram. She's constantly posting

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<v Speaker 1>landscape ideas, landscaping ideas, and of course you can also

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<v Speaker 1>get Jan on substack. So that would be a suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another really good one for someone who is still practicing.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I would say, and this is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of it took me a long time, so don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to rush into this, even though you

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<v Speaker 2>know I wish that I had done it sooner. Identify

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<v Speaker 2>your non negotiables. What are the factors that you need

603
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<v Speaker 2>to have. Do you need to have a dining garden.

604
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<v Speaker 2>Do you need to have an herb garden? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>need to have a native plank garden. These are just

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<v Speaker 2>some ideas off the top of my head, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>are your biggest goals that you are not willing to

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<v Speaker 2>give up? So identify two or three of those and

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<v Speaker 2>then look at the assets and liabilities of your yard. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, in my yard, not a lot going for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have a beautiful old brick garage that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite interesting, so we wanted to incorporate that into the

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<v Speaker 2>garden and not just make it look like a garage.

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<v Speaker 2>So look for things like that that are in your

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<v Speaker 2>yard that you can incorporate, and then any liabilities, identify

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<v Speaker 2>what those are and work to minimize those. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor's view plan hedge.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do that by getting out a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>paper and doing a simple bubble drawing. Google that how

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<v Speaker 1>to do a bubble drawing and you can do what

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<v Speaker 1>you just explain there, Stacy, I think that's important, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So we will put these resources in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, definitely check out John Brooks and Jan

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson and luck with your project. It sounds so fun

625
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<v Speaker 2>and so full of promise. So thank y'all so much

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<v Speaker 2>for your questions. We're going to take a little break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to complete our conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about just don't do it as well as a just

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<v Speaker 2>don't do its speed round, So please stay tuned. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. Today for branching news,

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<v Speaker 1>we continue our talk of don't do it and Stacey,

637
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say right off the bat, don't throw

638
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>up your hands and say the deer eat everything. I'm

639
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>giving up. Don't do it, don't give up. And next

640
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<v Speaker 1>week's show, the buck will stop here. We're going to

641
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<v Speaker 1>talk about deer next week.

642
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't wait. I have got some things to say.

643
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<v Speaker 1>And it can be frustrating. Hey, here's a quick one.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Polymers in planters and baskets to help with watering. Number one,

645
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<v Speaker 1>follow the label directions like you only need just a

646
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>little bit in a container. If you add more than that,

647
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a gelatinous mess. And don't spill them

648
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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. They're really slippery.

649
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, put them in the lower portion of the container,

651
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<v Speaker 1>not in the upper portion of the container. You're going

652
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<v Speaker 1>to have a mess with polymers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I remember when they first came out and people

654
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<v Speaker 2>were freaking out thinking it was some kind of like

655
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>worm in their soil. I remember there was like a

656
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<v Speaker 2>lot of concern. If the Internet had been around back then,

657
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<v Speaker 2>woof you got people would have freaked out.

658
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you want to do a shotgun approach? What are

659
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 1>we doing shod speed round shotguns? Read Oh, we were

660
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<v Speaker 1>talking about deer.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a just don't do it speed round. And

662
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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't joined us for a speed round before,

663
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<v Speaker 2>it's where we just kind of of rapid fire. Give

664
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<v Speaker 2>our thoughts on things that you should just not do

665
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>in various categories. For example, rick, what would be or

666
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 2>just don't do it? For puney, it can be a tip,

667
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>it can be a plant, it can be a tool.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things right off the top as I go through neighborhoods,

669
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>don't create meatballs and tuna cans. I see people out

670
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 1>there just pruning away and creating these shapes. Does not

671
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>look natural. I don't like meatballs and tuna cans. The

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00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 1>other one would be beautiful weeping trees that we have

673
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>as specimen plants in our landscape, and people will chop

674
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>them off and make them look like it's a Beatles haircut.

675
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<v Speaker 1>When the Beatles came into the United States, in the

676
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties. That's what their haircut look like. And that's

677
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 1>what people are doing to these weeping trees.

678
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sometimes you know, one is planted in a poor

679
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 2>spot and it needs a little bit of a haircut,

680
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>but in your yard it doesn't. And guess what, you

681
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>don't have to mow under it. You can just let

682
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it grow and weep and it will be a fun

683
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>place for kids to play and hide. So yeah, don't

684
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 2>cut it just for the mowing, Just you know, get

685
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the grass out and then let it be. That's why

686
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<v Speaker 2>you picked a weeping plant in the first place, isn't it.

687
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<v Speaker 2>So ma, just do don't I just don't do it.

688
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<v Speaker 2>For pruning, I'm gonna say anvil pruners. I mean, i

689
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<v Speaker 2>could go a lot of different directions here, and I've

690
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<v Speaker 2>already gone to the plant that you shouldn't prune, which

691
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>is big leaf hydranges. But I'm gonna say anvilpruners. So

692
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>bypass pruners go like this, They passed the blades past

693
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 2>each other like a scissors, and an anvil pruner it

694
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>comes down on a plate, and anvil pruners are known

695
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<v Speaker 2>to stay sharp longer. So a lot of people in

696
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 2>forestry will use them. Cut flower growers will use them.

697
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>But you do not want to use them on your plants,

698
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>because instead of making that nice, crisp, clean cut, it

699
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>makes a big, frayed cut a lot of surface area,

700
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>and plants can't heal as well from a lot of

701
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>surface area. So it's fine you cut with bypassed pruners

702
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>from your plant and then give them anvilpruner cuts for arranging,

703
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 2>for example. It can be just fine for that, but

704
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the problem is that anvilprunters are so much cheaper than

705
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>bypass pruners, so very often people will buy them and

706
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>not know that they have made a terrible mistake. So

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<v Speaker 2>invest in bypass prunters, not anvil all right, Just don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Perennial controversial, send your cards, letters and mail. I can

710
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 1>take it. I'm a big boy. As a matter of fact,

711
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<v Speaker 1>I made the mistake a few weeks ago of mentioning

712
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I had this really tough spot in my landscape and

713
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 1>it's pure sand and so I grow sweet autumn clematis.

714
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants that thing invasive that, so please forgive me

715
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>for suggesting that. I didn't suggest it, I just said

716
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 1>that I like it. I had mine growing through an evergreen.

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00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say perennial. Here it comes Lily of the Valley.

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00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I can see that.

719
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, but I'm going to get beat

720
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>up on that. But I prove you know.

721
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<v Speaker 2>I love Lily of the Valley. I have my sentimental reasons,

722
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 2>but I still wouldn't necessarily recommend that anyone plant it

723
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>unless they also have sentimental reasons. I just don't do it. Perennial.

724
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 2>It is an epic plant of the show. It comes

725
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.679
<v Speaker 2>around every year Tuna chamelion plants. We have had many

726
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>tales of woe from our listeners who have had this plant.

727
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>It is so hard to get rid of, even if

728
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<v Speaker 2>you're willing to use herbicides. It has this waxy coating

729
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>on the leaves that makes it almost impossible to get

730
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 2>any kind of herbicide to stick. Any little teen c

731
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>piece that you leave in the soil will result in

732
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 2>more whutunia again also known as chameleon plant. I did

733
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>actually see this plant in the garden center when I

734
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>was shopping this past spring, and I was like, what

735
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>are you guys doing? Do you hate your customers? So yeah,

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00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>just don't do it. If you haven't listened to our

737
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 2>previous listeners with their tales of woe, you will. You

738
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>should because then you will understand why. So just don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it, shrub, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I mean, yeah, it's easy for me. Okay, taxes

741
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 1>or used especially with boring, deer will eat them poisonous boring.

742
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>And slow boring also slow growing, so you know you're

743
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>not going to get a lot of coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>You want meat balls and tuna cans, plant taxes.

745
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 2>That they are very commonly seen that way. My just

746
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>don't planted shrub is going to be a conventional or

747
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>basic for scythia. Really yes, because.

748
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You're going to this one.

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00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, but here's why. Here's why. Now, I did just

750
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>take a very large, mature one out in my yard,

751
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and the reason why is I just didn't feel that

752
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it was worth the real estate for what it gave.

753
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, it is really nice in spring when

754
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>it has yellow flowers, But you know what else is

755
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>nice in spring with yellow flowers the daffodils that are

756
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 2>all over my yard, So I don't really feel I

757
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>need more yellow good point. And it was huge, I

758
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 2>mean this thing was like ten feet tall and wide

759
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and it didn't do anything outside of that flowering. It

760
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't get good fall color, where some of our newer

761
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 2>selections of show off for scythia at least get good

762
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>purple fall color. So I think, especially when you have

763
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 2>something taking up that much real estate, it ought to

764
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>do more than you know, a two week hurrah. So

765
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's why that's my just don't do it, Just don't

766
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 2>do it tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh got a half hour a calorie pear Bradford, Yeah,

768
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Sulberry's Siberian elm. You can make along list.

769
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say Norway maple. Yeah, that too, because you know,

770
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 2>calorie pears still are sold in stores. Unfortunately, there is

771
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<v Speaker 2>a real campaign to eradicate them, so hopefully that is

772
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<v Speaker 2>a bating So I'm with you on that, but I

773
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.039
<v Speaker 2>feel like Norway maple is one of those trees. It's

774
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>still so easy to find and it's kind of a

775
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 2>garbage plant, not a fan, no fall color, nothing really,

776
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 2>just quick shade. Whats your just don't do it watering

777
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 2>tip or tool.

778
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>You have no idea how to water, and so you

779
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>water based on a schedule. You just do it every day,

780
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 1>but just a little bit. And again, the soil in

781
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the up. Whether it's a houseplant, a shrub, an annual,

782
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. The roots are soaking, wet at

783
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the surface, dry below, and you wonder why that plant

784
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>is declining.

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00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I just don't do it. Watering tip is don't think

786
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that the rain is going to take care of it,

787
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 2>so you don't need to water. How many times have

788
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 2>we all fallen into this trap?

789
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You pay attention to the roads.

790
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Summer, I'm lazy. I don't want to water. It's supposed

791
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to rain tomorrow. I mean, I think there are a

792
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 2>few better ways to make sure it doesn't rain the

793
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>following day than opting to not water. So I usually will,

794
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, find the wherewithal deep inside me to say, okay,

795
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>I got a water because I do want it to

796
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>rain tomorrow, and it doesn't always work. But I don't

797
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 2>like to push fate. I don't like to tempt fate

798
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>with watering anymore. So don't kid yourself. You probably need

799
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to water unless you're already watered. But you know, if

800
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>it's dry, it's middle of summer, don't count on the

801
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 2>rain what you're just don't do it.

802
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Mowing tip don't fertilize the daylights out of the lawn

803
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>in spring, it's going to grow like nuts anyhow, and

804
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be on the lawn more constantly. The

805
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 1>most important time of the year to feed your lawn

806
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>is fall. The lawn is putting its energy into root establishment,

807
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>root growth, not top growth. You want a nice lawn,

808
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>feed it in the fall.

809
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, just don't do it in the spring. I'm gonna say,

810
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 2>just don't do it. Assuming that the seed that you buy,

811
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>it's your local garden center, box store, are the only options.

812
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of grass seed out there for a

813
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of different purposes, and with a little bit of

814
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 2>research and patience, you will find one that is far

815
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>better than whatever you can grab off the shelf. Yes,

816
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I have one last thing. We have time for one

817
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>last one. What is your just don't do it tool tip?

818
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It's well, I guess you could argue whether or not

819
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a tool. But again, if you came to my

820
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>house and watched me frustrated, tangled and tripping in my hose,

821
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>get a good hose and like I mentioned last week,

822
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>our viewers and listeners convinced me to get a hose link.

823
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I did.

824
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm glad to do it. Yeah, I just don't

825
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 2>do A tooltip is something that I think we have

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<v Speaker 2>all fallen victim to before, and that is using the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong tool for the job. So you're out there in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden, you come across a rock or who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what in the soil, and you're like, oh, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>just got my you know, little shovel here. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just pry at this thing that I have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what it is, and next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a broken shovel. So don't be lazy, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I'm you know, again saying this for my own

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<v Speaker 2>benefit as well as for everybody else's get the right

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<v Speaker 2>tool for the job, not whatever you happen to have

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<v Speaker 2>on hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, real quickly, I have found that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to five gallon buckets. I collect them, you get

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<v Speaker 1>them free, or someone's throwing it away, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I need is another five gallon bucket,

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<v Speaker 1>but I pick it up because they're handy around the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't help it. I've got a thing for five gallon buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't tell your wife. Well, so that was a

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<v Speaker 2>quick look at some of the things we think you

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<v Speaker 2>should just not do in the garden. If you miss

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<v Speaker 2>any of them, check us out on youtubeer you can

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<v Speaker 2>watch the whole show, along with some extra special footage

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<v Speaker 2>that Adriana puts in and photos from our listeners. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Rick, thank you, thank you Adriana, and thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much to all of you for listening. We truly

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it and hope you have a wonderful week ahead.