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Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 2: What is going on y'all?
Speaker 3: I hope everybody's having a wonderful Tuesday morning. We are
mobile Alabama, day two of the Senior Bowls. Shout out
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trip out here because we get to do cool things
like this like kick off the show with LSU's all
time leading pass catcher in the tight end position, and
that is our guy, Mason Taylor.
Speaker 2: Mason, what's up, man? How are you feeling today?
Speaker 4: Feeling great?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me?
Speaker 3: How does it feel? Or would you let me let
me ask you this way? Would you have ever guessed
when you committed to LSU that you would be introduced
later as the all time leading pass catcher?
Speaker 4: I'd say it's definitely a goal of mine to do
and to be an impact on a program like LSU
like this, so definitely one of my dreams for sure,
and being able to accomplish one of those things is
definitely a dream come true.
Speaker 5: One of the things we were talking about, Mason was
immediately you had to become that guy. I mean, you
get to LSU and you're playing against Florida State in
the Superdome, you're starting. What was that like to know
that as a freshman you're gonna be counted on that much?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4: It just shows the coaches trust in me that that week.
And I think I didn't early en roll, so I
came in the summer, so everything was kind of fast.
But I mean getting adjusted to that, I feel like
it was pretty natural. And be able to have a
shine in the first game like I did, and be
able to finish that game out, it was was definitely surreal.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, and speaking of finishing out, we got to talk
about the Alabama couch. We can do that a little
bit later because I want to look at this last season.
We'll start talking about the Senior Bowl as well, and
what's coming up this week. But uh, this last year,
like like you said, you you come in summer as
a freshman, so you're really just thrown into the deep
end the pool. You're playing catchup. You do great, asked
to do a lot. But then this last year, you
you had become almost the security blanket of the team, right,
the veteran leader. Like whenever a play was needed, it
seemed like nuts looked for you be some ridiculous third
down conversion on the sideline. What was the process for you?
What do you think the keys were to the process
in kind of creating that growth over the three years
and becoming that that that sort of a bedrock player
for the team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just showing that trust like I was
talking about in practice, and building that confidence from the
coaching standpoint, your offensive coordinator and your quarterback, just knowing
that you'll be there and you'll be consistent on those
downs where they need you. So being that reliable target
was huge for me this year.
Speaker 5: What about the difference in quarterbacks because you play with
two really good ones and Jade Daniels and Garrett Nussmeyer.
But was there a different mentality maybe playing with those
two quarterbacks because very good but very different.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly, I don't think they're much different
than people think they are. They're both really hard working,
great worth ethic, and I think just the way they
lead and they both very great leadership and the way
they play the game. I mean, they played a game
at a high level and they prepare for it and
they do a great job doing it.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, then let's talk. Well, actually, first off, I
want to ask you about this.
Speaker 2: What's it? How crazy is it? What Jayden's doing in
the league right now.
Speaker 4: I've been following Washington that the whole playoffs because of him,
But yeah, seeing what he do, it's like, it's honestly
not even surprising, because I just think the way he
works every single day and the way he puts his
and dedicates his time to the game is definitely surreal.
Speaker 5: Well, so, okay, you're coming from the same school you
mentioned watching Jayden.
Speaker 2: How about you have three.
Speaker 5: Of the Rookie of the Year finalists from LSU teammates
of yours, and so you coming from LSU. The talent
that we've all put in the NFL, I have to
imagine like they give you little boost of confidence, like, hey,
if they can go out there and do it, I
know where I'm coming from. I played with those guys
and gives you like a little bit of a confidence
boost going into the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, for sure, Like you said, them going
and balling out their rookie years, I mean it's truly extraordinary.
So seeing them do that, and I was just playing
with them for two years, it is definitely a confidence.
Speaker 2: All Right, Void talks Senior Bowl. I mean, what does
it feel like?
Speaker 3: It take us into the emotions of the Alabama two
point conversion, because that is a play you have achieved
what I think everybody wants to assumps that you've achieved
real football immortality, right like that is a play that
will be played on every highlight package for decades to come.
Even if you never do anything else in your life,
you can show your.
Speaker 2: Kids like this is what look at this, I did this?
Uh what did? What did that feel like? Like?
Speaker 4: I mean it's a blur moment. I mean something like
that caliber and and that team. I mean we had
a great team and Alabama was a tough team to
play and it was just a sold out that night
in Dues Valley. So I mean that just speaks for itself.
And I think that game was just a surer moment.
And being able to, like I said, gain that trust
of those offensive coordinators and and my quarterback in such
an early time to get the ball thrown to me
in a situation like that is definitely.
Speaker 5: Did you get to keep anything from that because I know,
I think I'm pretty sure you threw the ball up
in the air, so there's no telling where that's.
Speaker 2: No, they gave me the ball, they did.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2: Which equipment do you remember because we got get me
a shout out?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I bet it was Chase.
Speaker 4: After the video you see them all running around, grabbing
the pylons and then grabbing the balls and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: But the fact that they found a way to get
that football back to you, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: I thought that was lost forever. All right.
Speaker 3: So, so you talked about the growth that you've had
during your years at else you getting the judge quarterback coaches,
how do you approach now a week long practice schedule
where you don't have excited time to like create chemistry
and everything, but you have to put your best foot
forward because this is your audition for the biggest league
in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's just I mean, it's a game
of football. I mean, at the end of the day,
it's it's as simple as that. So just diving into
the playbook they've given us and just trying to understand
it as best as possible. And really, at the end
of the day, just go out there and be yourself,
you know, showcase your talent no matter what you're doing,
just really just compete and give effort.
Speaker 3: Do you have any personal goals in terms of skill
sets that you think you want to show or you
feel like maybe people are doubting you on.
Speaker 4: I just want to show my show my pride and
taking and not coming off the field and being that
all time time time end and doing everything for the team.
So doing that run game protection and running routes. Just
making sure I show and showcase my complete tight end
nature to doing everything tight end is really important for me.
Speaker 5: So this is a it's a trying time too, because
you know you're you're making this transition. This is a
tough week. You gotta do the training, the combine all
of those situations. But you have some pretty good people
in your family to lean on. With your dad, with
your uncle. I played against both of them. I mean
they're straight dogs, right, had great mentalities. Do you lean
on people like that, Like, Hey, when you were going
through this process, if you were maybe struggling.
Speaker 2: What helped you? Like, is that a great resource for you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: For sure, Like you said, I mean, anytime you're struggling
or are neat questions to anything, I know they're right
there in my back pocket to ask you.
Speaker 3: And you told us you're training in Florida right now,
just sir, so you're you're back here.
Speaker 2: Mom's then, Yeah, is she doing your launder right now? Yeah?
The ultimate goal? Right, I had a lot of balance,
so she.
Speaker 4: Really she she helps me out a line and I
love her for sure.
Speaker 2: Where are we at?
Speaker 3: Well, where we are from a nerve standpoint right now,
I know this can be a very you know not
I'm not saying like ner but it can be a
very It's it's a pressure filled week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think, I mean, I think it's just
the way I was raised.
Speaker 2: It's kind of just natural.
Speaker 4: Just I know, it's I know it's a big week,
but having confidence in myself and just knowing who I
am and what type of player I am, I think
I'm just going to go out here and just have
a good time, trying to have fun and definitely compete
and just show my effort in my game.
Speaker 5: See, I always give my PSA, like just know the
are going to be the most physical practices, yeah, that
you've ever been a part of. And I know you
know that again leaning on people, but that's what they are.
I mean, these are like game reps. Every rep here
in Mobile during these practices, it's a game rep, and
like you said, you want to prove that, hey, I
can block an edge guy in the past protection game
or in the run game and different things, and so
it is something that like if you go in with
the right mentality and you know what it's going to be,
it does make it a little bit easier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: Like you said, I mean every represent poring here, so
just taking taking every rep one by one and really
giving it my all and showing my effort.
Speaker 2: It would be really which drill you're looking forward to
the most? Though? Is it one on ones? I would
say one on ones? I mean that's everyone's drill.
Speaker 4: But I mean, honestly, just coming out here and doing
everything the nine on seven or the team periods in
the seven on seven, just making sure I could do
all everything that tight end does.
Speaker 3: Do they make the time trying to remember how often
do they make the tight ends to the past rush
one on ones.
Speaker 5: I mean with us with the backs, they were you
know they'd go that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it
would be like, you know, three backs would go then
a tight end.
Speaker 3: So tight ends the only position that gets because you know,
like route running one on ones, that's an offensive drill. Yeah,
pass rush run on ones, that's I guess running backs
as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, running backs get the same. I like that you
said nine on seven though. That does my full back
heart a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ude, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be it's gonna
be crazy. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Thank
you so much, man, Thank you so much for joining
us more maje he congrats on an awesome career at
l s U. Like I said, your name's etched in
the record books and a highlight that will stand the
test of time.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, hell yeah man, have.
Speaker 3: A good all right. That was Mace Taylor shout out.
Great start of the show today, coming up next to
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Speaker 3: We'll go back here in Mobile, Alabama. We are live
in the Mobile Convention Center today. In a lot of ways,
kind of day one of the Senior Bowl players rolling around.
There's a tension in the air. Scouts have infested the city.
The the viper's nest of would be Alpha's patrolling every
single bar in this city, staring down one another, chest
puffed out, trying to prove dominance over the other. Not
a single female insight in those who are well. They
might as well be a Christmas Tree and Rockefeller Center
because the ratios here are insane this week in Mobile, Alabama.
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been better down there, but again, it is a fascinating
time for the city where it just the entire football world.
This sends here and you can feel attention in the air. Jake,
as practice is about to begin. Right after the show,
We'll be heading over to the practice fields, and I
cannot wait to see who starts to write their legend
right Like we only knew Quiny and Mitchell was gonna
be awesome this year because of what he did in
Mobile last year. I remember the first year ever came
to movie. You know, the guy was making all the waves,
Aaron Frickin' Donald. They're like, wait, who is this? Who
is this ww All the time they like this is
like Pitt d Lineman and he's like not that big looking,
but he's just out here dominating people.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to learn today who's going to
start that journey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it happens every year. I mean you mentioned Mitchell.
I mean I think Ladd McConkie. We all knew who
he was, but we didn't know Lad was going to
be cooking people like that in one on ones.
Speaker 2: I mean it was highly impressive.
Speaker 5: I go back to I guess it was two three
years ago and Jaden Reid, receiver from Michigan State. I'm like,
they can't cover him. Nobody can cover him. It's like
I don't really know his game right now, but you
quickly learned it. He turned himself into a does anybody
really know this guy? To a second round pick? And
now he's Green Bay's number one receiver, right. So, like
that's what we find out in a week like this,
Like you were put on a stage, you were put
on an island.
Speaker 2: You're one old one who is going to win.
Speaker 5: And if you've got somebody out here with these rosters
of Jim Nag and his staff have put together and
you're showing out and you're separating yourself from that kind
of group, you know you've got a pretty good chance
to not only get drafted early, but to play very early.
And so that's always the exciting thing because it's not
guys that we know. Yeah, oftentimes, honestly, the big names
here aren't the ones that show out in practice.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, you're right, and and it's well that's I
think also because like oftentimes the big names in being
like high school recruiter maybe in college football are Okay,
you're big, you're you're on a great team. Right, You're
you're on a big team, you win a lot, you're
one of the better players.
Speaker 2: On the team.
Speaker 3: But the cannon you used to always say this dude
when he came playing high school foball, he was like, look, honestly,
because I know I flirted with maybe transferring to evangel
back in the day and over there Maris was a
Georgian football power too, like a small school, and I
thought about maybe going to Maris took the inter examine everything,
but he always like, look, you can't if you want,
but like, honestly, if you can play, they don't find you.
And Jim Naggy and his team, well they're the guys
that find you. And so yeah, a lot of these
people won't have the recognition because maybe they're at a
smaller school, maybe they play a position doesn't get it.
Maybe they were buried because some of the media just
latched onto some of their teammates who are bigger names.
But this, to get here means objectively, you could play
at this level. And so that's why you get so
many guys that feel like diamonds in the rough, because
you don't get invited here because of your profile. You
get invited here simply because of what you put on film.
So this truly is a meritocratic week here at the
recent Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: And I can't wait for practice start today.
Speaker 5: Like a guy like Harold Fannon Junior from Bowlding Green
tight end that feels like somebody we're going to be
talking about on Thursday because of what he did today
and Wednesday. And if you don't know who that is,
because everybody knows who Tyler Warren is from Penn State.
He won the Mackie, he won all the awards. Well,
actually a fan and Junior had better stats than him.
He had some of the best tight end stats of
all time in any single season. But because he played
in the MAC and he played for Bowling Green, not
everyone knows him he's not a household name. By Thursday,
he'll be a household name in the draft circles, and
then he'll be drafted and then we'll all know who
he is. But that's the kind of the example that
we're talking about here. So that's a player that I'm
going to identify when we go out to practice. I
want to watch that guy because he should be a
household name. But because of where he played and maybe
what others did around him at bigger schools, he doesn't
get as much play in the national But I promise
you everybody's gonna be talking about it.
Speaker 3: Watch any of these playoff games and watch when the
starters introduced what school they went to, right, I mean,
it's it's it's it's all over. That's crazy to think
about because Bowling Green actually almost beat Penn State early.
This scene feels like years ago, but way back in
the beginning, every dude, it was an awesome game.
Speaker 2: Bowling Green had him on the roads.
Speaker 3: Fats. We didn't even know at the time, really though,
we we didn't even pitch it. It really was the tight
end ball. Yeah, I mean Warren versus Fann. But anyway,
whatever gonna be a great week. You're very excited for
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Saints coaching search. As the news cycle continues to spin
right along first and foremost Jake, it appears that the
Saints Brass is quote not enamored with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: So although the resume is probably because he asked questions,
I mean, look, you know, I don't. I don't I
actually know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I know anything about McCarthy on
a personal level beyond what matsill just what he said.
Speaker 2: You know, he he liked him quite a bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Look, I can't speak to
the howard the why. But and it makes sense given
that there's not known for anything. Word in the street
is Saints Press unnamored with Mike McCarthy. And remember yesterday
they fly out to Philadelphia to go meet with Kellen Moore,
and Kellen Moore feels like, well, I think, certainly from
the same per second, he is the leader in the
clubhouse or at leats believe that we haven't got any
reports like the interviews went poorly or anything like that.
Speaker 5: So Vegas right now has Remember yesterday we were talking
about it. Kellen Morris actually moved up to the top choice. Yeah,
plus three hundred Mike McCarthy plus three fifty Kafka is
plus four to fifty than Anthony Weaver. The Dolphins defensive
coordinator plus six hundred and so it does feel like
Keller Morre's probably the leader. Kelly Moore was the coordinator
for the Chargers last year. There was a lot I
liked about him. He's at least got offenses that are
towards the top of the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've seen him with stars, I've seen him with an
injury riddled where he still had some success.
Speaker 2: And is it my top choice.
Speaker 5: No, But I think if you get Kelly Moore, that
would be much more exciting than some of the other
names that we've thrown around here. Look, Mike McCarthy is
a safe choice, and so I think that's a lot
of us thought maybe they would go safe because this
might be Mickey Loomis's last time to hire a head coach.
But of the people that are you know, rumored and
the Vegas Says have odds, I think Kella Moore might
be the best of those choices.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think the things that I like about
more are he's a lefty. You love that? Uh Oh,
I forgot about that. I liked it.
Speaker 3: He was fifty and three as a start, No, he
was he was fifty and three as a starter in college.
Speaker 2: Guys No, I like that.
Speaker 3: After this year in Philly, because remember, wasn't he thought
to be kind of a pass happy, little fancy lad
you know, maybe maybe a bit too cute, a bit
too much through the air, and then this year in
Philly he's completely remade that. And granted it's like will
you see que barking, it's kind of My point is
that he completely adjusted his style to maximize his personnel and.
Speaker 2: Look it out, Well it has worked, right.
Speaker 3: And you canna say, oh, well, it's not as productive,
why jail hurts, passing ever has gone down. Whatever it's
creating wins. They don't turn the ball over, They control
the game, They play to their strengths. Like ultimately that's
what you want in a good head coach. But so
I like the the versatility that he showed there. I
think there's something to be said Jake for walking into
a pretty toxic situation.
Speaker 2: In Philly and having to chess right.
Speaker 3: I mean, it still seems like every single week the
personalities to manage are a lot there, especially with you
probably got aj brown and happy with you every single
week because he's not getting enough, you know, there's not
enough production through the air.
Speaker 2: So I like how he's done that.
Speaker 3: I think, like anybody else, though, my questions with More
are not x's and o's, it's will he be how
is he thought of as like a leader of men?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And this is kind of funny where just physical appearance
kind of change how we judge Johnson links.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what Kellen.
Speaker 3: Moore is like in those situations, but he looks so
cherubic and young and you know, clean shaven and everything.
Like if he had like a beard and gray hair,
what I'd be like?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Actually, I think he looks like a leader of I'm
not sure, but that seems to be the positives and
kind of the question marks surrounding Kellen Moore right now.
I got to give it to the cannon though, because
when we were watching games on NFL Network, thinking they
were playoff games a few weeks back, he kept talking
about how.
Speaker 2: More was was his favorite, was his favorite choice.
Speaker 3: And this was when Brady and Glenn and everybody else
was still out there.
Speaker 5: I think one of the things that when you look
at his playing career and how he transitioned into the
coaching realm, it was one year. So he was with
the Cowboys for three seasons as a player, his last
year was seventeen, and then in eighteen he immediately gets
the quarterback coaching job there for the Cowboys. I think
that kind of tells you what he was in that building.
Sure he wasn't an offensive consultant and analyst. He didn't
have to go to college and have a year of
you know, doing something there and to prove yourself as
far as a coach.
Speaker 2: No finishes in seventeen. He's a quarterback coach in eighteen.
That is great.
Speaker 5: So I think that shows you kind of what a
lot of people like around the game think of him.
And also the fact that he could handle that because
I'm sure that his peers were still there. I mean
think about it, like probably a lot of the same
quarterback round and he's going from sitting there to now
having the clicker and sitting in the back of the
room and going over the tape and so that part.
And I'm like you, like, I don't know inside and
out Keller Moore. I'd have to reach out to somebody
that has played for him, either Dallas or almost at
San Diego.
Speaker 2: LA or Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: But I do think him going from player to coach
in the next year kind of tells you at least
x's and o's in maturity levels to be able to
handle that.
Speaker 3: So, Jake, you know how scuttle butt tends to float
on the wind. Here in Mobile, there's some positive Kafka buzz.
And remember this is something that we talked about, and
he's gonna be these coach of either what the American
or national here one or the other. But so I'm
kind of excited to get an eye on him because
we talked about it. We've talked about it, we talked
about it. Yes, we're talk about kind of throughout this
process of Kafka. Where I get that he is from
a resume, look at the stats of what the Giant
said everything else, Right, he is a deeply unexciting candidate
from that perspective, But like we mentioned yesterday, there is
a disconnect between those numbers, which are obvious, and the
fact that he's been a finalist for multiple jobs the
last two years. Right, Like there's obviously in NFL circles
there seems to be more respect for him than what
his resume would would dictate, is how I would say it.
And so anytime there's that disc guy like we talked
about Okay, we just talked about it doesn't matter, replate,
they're gonna find you.
Speaker 2: Like this feels.
Speaker 3: Like a guy that maybe the NFL's way higher on
than the general public. I am not saying that if
it did come down to that, anybody should be happy
or or you should cheer it on or say, oh,
this is perfect exactly. Let's say it's one of the
entire time. I just mean that, I'm I'm a bit
I've been a little bit intrigued to him for that perspective,
and some of his deepened after here, and people talk
very positively about him last night, just over over some
drinks of the Habitasher.
Speaker 2: And maybe so. But if I'm a Saints fan, yeah,
I'm not saying any again, I don't want to be there.
Speaker 5: I would also have questions about like him getting so
many interviews and everybody said, oh, really, well, but he
didn't get a job. Uh yeah, yeah, I mean again,
I've like, i mean, I'm sure you've had him.
Speaker 2: I've had him, like I've gone places.
Speaker 5: Man, that was awesome, that was great, And you're like,
I'm about to get hired, and then they're like, we'll
be in touch. Yeah, it's like, Okay, well what did
I not do? And it's kind of been multiple times
for him, so like that that would be a big
question for me. And also, if he was truly the
guy and you felt that good about him, why did
you interview three four people after the fact that you
know you had him in the bill? You know what
I'm saying, Like that would be a quick like why
are you flying to Philly if you feel like he
was your guy? And Nicki Lewis would come up with
something and to be clear to his gum and tell
us why.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think. I mean, he's obviously not
the Saint's guy. If he was, you'd higher That's what
I'm saying, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure you maybe
you back into him again.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: I'm just I just think it's a bit we'll probably
never see, so there's no point in talking about it,
just a little. I thought it was something kind of
interesting that dovetailed with some of the thoughts that were
swirling in my head. Uh so right now, flew out
to Philly yesterday. Matt with Callimore seems like things as well.
He's the odds on favor to being the Saints head coach.
We'll see where it ends up going. All right, when
we get back here and off the bench, Blake Baker
no longer the highest paid decordinator in college football.
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk maybe off the bench the bench.
Speaker 2: Yo, what's going on? Y'all?
Speaker 3: Welcome back to OTV Live here the Senior Day two
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Speaker 2: Can't wait.
Speaker 3: You can see the players all walking into their team
meeting rooms again. You can feel the attention starting to build, guys,
and and and what happens when when it's it's like
an old rubber band gun or anything that what happens
is attention builds and building.
Speaker 2: Eventually it's got a fire off.
Speaker 3: It's gonna snap, and that's gonna be durn one on
ones and it's gonna be absolutely insane.
Speaker 5: It is funny, like every drill is gonna be different
for every player. There's something that every player feels confident about.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 5: There's something that every player is like, er, I hope
I do well there. You know, there's something that it's
a bad place to be. There's you know, and that's
for a lot of people. T I mean, one of
the ones is it's a scary place for a lot
of people because it's a defensive drill. There's all this space,
it's all eyes on you, and certainly like on the
offensive line, like you're not typical like honing in on
one person, right, it's the totality of the five guys.
But and so that that makes a lot of sense
for me. It was nine on seven. Like nine on
seven I knew for me here, so like that was
like one on ones, like let's go, Like I look,
I'm gonna take away inside, We're gonna go up the
rail and I'm gonna feel fine. But nine on seven,
I'm like, man, I hadn't done this in a while, right,
I mean I hadn't played fullback in two full seasons,
and all of a sudden, I got three fingers in
the dirt and I gotta go lead block on.
Speaker 2: You know this all American true.
Speaker 5: Keith Rivers maybe USC remember that name, played for Cincinnati Bingles.
Speaker 2: I think that was his name, Keith Rivers. He's all American.
Speaker 5: USC played for the Bengals, And I'm like, okay, like
I gotta go. And I was like it's not like
a oh my gosh, I can't get this done nerves.
It's like I have to get this done type of nerve.
And so it's it's gonna be different for every single player.
It's not just only the one on ones, I would say,
mainly it is the one on ones. But there's gonna
be a drill for everybody here that they're a little
nervous about because they want to do so well.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And so we'll continue to bringing all yesterday was way
in day A couple of interesting things to note.
Speaker 2: Jake one, Jalen Milroe, Welcome to the club, my friend.
But he's not even in your club. He's like he's
in a club underneath you see.
Speaker 3: Unlike you big handed freaks, you you disgusting peanut eating
circus weirdos, you carnies, we are an accepting crew in
the nine inch King Club.
Speaker 2: You do not have to be nine inches to get in.
It's not inches or under.
Speaker 3: And in fact, what you can allow Patty mahomes in
there given that he's nine in a quarter. Uh.
Speaker 2: But Jalen Milroe coming in with what eight and three
fours yesterday.
Speaker 3: Which again, by the way, what there's no starting quarterback
in the NFL right now under nine or or something
along those lines. So it's it's always it's it's it's
always gonna be such a frustrating moment for potential NFL
quarterback when they get up there and they're like, uh, oh,
your hands is too tiny. You can't play football?
Speaker 2: What? Like, I mean, no, do you.
Speaker 3: I don't think Jalen Miler's hand size was why he
maybe struggled this year at times reading defenses or not
making the correct decisions. But if he's not good, people
are gonna be like, oh, se you tiny hands.
Speaker 2: Do you remember it wasn't Burrow.
Speaker 3: What did Burrow say a few years ago when he
was like, uh, It's like he's like, I guess my
hands are too tiny played quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, just I'm just never mind as well go
ahead and retire? Yeah, might well go ahead and retire.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those silly metrics.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if this was the first year
that we did this together, if it was the year
before where you hear Kenny a.
Speaker 3: Year Uh yeah, yeah we were, Yeah, we was like
the first year we came. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
I mean yeah, I remember that the picket. Now, I
didn't bring him up because like you know, it's NFL
Crisman whatever. But the problem is not because of his hands,
right right right, But I just remember him being here.
And so we were doing shows, me and do him.
We were doing the show like at the stadium in
the press box and like the camera so we had
a feed of the practices right in front of us,
and every time they started talking about Kenny Pickett, the
camera guy was.
Speaker 5: Zooming and I'm like, oh my god, I feel I
feel so bad for this kid. And t three practices.
He had three different glove changes. So first off, he
wore glove on his hand and there was three different
ones every day to try to find the right one.
I'm like, dude, you're buying it, like you're you're showing
now yes, And so like it was the conversation. Now
he was the only first round quarterback that year, but
it was like, man, just keep the same glove. If
you're gonna wear glove, just keep the same one on.
Speaker 2: We're not. You got a yellow one on, then you
got a white one on, then you got a black
one on.
Speaker 3: Man, uh so on the other here mobile one of
the other funny measurement things from me.
Speaker 2: Yesterday we saw something.
Speaker 3: Very rare, uh the ultra or rare program lie where
somebody lied down. Dion Walker was listed in the program
at six six three forty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's six seven.
Speaker 3: God, he's six seven, not six six and three quarters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six seven three forty five.
Speaker 3: Are you fin this is numbers here or gentavits attacking
from Kentucky guys?
Speaker 2: Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 3: I've never heard of a program listing a six seven
guy at six six so even bigger. Maybe he grew,
like I don't know, Like I mean, you continue to
grow during college. But I cannot wait to get eyes
on Dion Walker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what because if you're six two and
a half, you're six to four in the program. Yes,
if yours you know Jackson Dart six one, I think
he measured it. He's probably six three in the program.
Abs right, I was always gonna be six foot in
the program, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's I've
never seen him before, but it's typically going to be listed.
At the fact that this man is a literal giant
and they shorted him an inch.
Speaker 3: I can't wait I can't wait to go watch him.
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defensive coordinator in the country last year, Right two and a.
Speaker 2: Half million dollars a year. Jim Knowles the three million
dollar man, the three point one million dollar man.
Speaker 3: So Tom Allen, former indion A head coach, leaves Penn State.
Earlier this office he was DC. He leaves to go
be the DC at Clemson Penn State seeking to kind
of go all in. You know, how do we take
the firt next step? How do we do something splashy?
Although I have questions about whether or not this move doesn't,
but still, you know, how do we take an extept?
They go and they hire Jim Knowles away from Ohio
State just a couple of weeks after winning an ask
Jim to two to three point one million dollars. Here's
my question, Jake, do you think that real quick?
Speaker 2: Before you get into some other angles here?
Speaker 3: U there had to be some sort of drama here, right,
had to like to Ohio State.
Speaker 2: It's this not a money thing.
Speaker 3: Well honestly could have matched, it could have got very close,
Like it can't be just a pure money thing. Yeah,
and you're leaving for penn Stad. I mean, well, I
guess whatever the jobs job, but still he pints.
Speaker 5: It's a great job. But you you're at the Ohio State.
Speaker 2: You got Kale Downs coming back next year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got I mean, you get Sunny's coming
back next year too. I mean, you got some real
dudes coming back next year. Are gonna be sure fire
first round picks. Uh, it had to happen, like something
had to happen, or like the work environment wasn't great.
And I hate to like read into body language because
you never know what media days, but for the National
Championship media day, I was interviewing Jim Knowles and he
gave great answers, but man, he was his body language tea.
Speaker 2: He was slouched over, his elbows.
Speaker 5: Were kind of at his knees, and he's just sitting
there and he's just like looking ahead and giving answers.
And I remember telling EGM, like, man, that looks weird,
like he's exhausted. But maybe it wasn't him being exhausted.
Maybe it was him, Like, man, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: My head canon is I like I like to like
think that, like Chip Kelly came in and then Ryan
Day started eating Chip like his favorite son, and all
of a sudden, Jim's left out in the woods and
he's like, hey, Jim, hey, we need to do some
portal work, you know, make some calls, raise somebody.
Speaker 2: Me and Chip are going golfing. Well you know what
you joke. But there is some of that.
Speaker 5: I mean, Chip Kelly coached Ryan Day at New Hampshire,
all right, and then Ryan Day, Ryan Day was his
quarterback coach and uh you know in the NFL at
Philly and at uh San Francisco, right, and then obviously
you know, Chip hires.
Speaker 2: Ryan so like they're boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they've been together since college for Ryan Day,
and so yeah, I'm sure there's some of that too,
anything anything that was left over and went to the
offensive side.
Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, exactly right, exactly right. Uh Okay, So
how about this then, who who do you think they like?
Give me a big name? Who are the big names?
Because because right now you have Ohio State, Oklahoma and
Notre Dame who all don't have defensive court. And with
this Noles contract, the price just got raised. You gotta
imagine a high state's gonna want to do something splashy. Uh,
Like the splashiest would be like a Glenn Schuman, Right.
I don't think there's any way he leaves Kirby and
Georgia or something, But like that's there. Are there any
other names kind of that caliber level out there that
you're that you're thinking of?
Speaker 2: What about Jim Leonard? I know, and I know Jim's
Jim Leonard.
Speaker 5: He was like he was in the NFL kind of
has an analyst and he was the.
Speaker 3: Hot name and then he never ended up really catching on,
but he never did a bad job.
Speaker 2: So it's weird. And I know John's teammates with Jim.
Speaker 5: Jim's an awesome dude, the best football mind that defensively
that I was around in my NFL career. So Jim,
Jim's out there, and so I think that, you know, honestly.
Speaker 3: In Rabbitport saying that he's going to remain an offensive
assistant for the Denver Broncos, it's a personal choice.
Speaker 2: He's trying to get the Jim Eldon. He ain't trying
to get Anowledge man.
Speaker 5: And look, and Jim played a long time played for
Denver obviously, and so that's Jim telling you I'm good. Yeah,
I don't want the problems of college football. So if
he said that already, then yesterday, okay, he wants to
be in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: So that was one of the names that I kind
of thought of. But you're right, you lose to Jim Knowles.
Who you're gonna go get.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you got money.
Speaker 5: I mean, because you're not gonna albid Texas. I mean,
you're not going to Georgia. Feels like you're not going
to outbid Georgia. I'm trying to think of some of
the other top defenses in the country. I just I
don't know that you're going to get the guy that
Jim Knowles was.
Speaker 2: And remember they I don't want to say overpaid.
Speaker 5: That feels disrespectful, but they kind of did for Jim
Knowles to leave Oklahoma State because they wanted him, Like
they went above market value because they had a defensive issue.
They were scoring all his points, but they couldn't stop anybody.
Speaker 3: It's just like ls, you go to above market value
for Baker last year. Now Penn State do it well?
I mean maybe it does mark value when you win
the Natty, But either way some fascinating. I'm very interest
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So I said, we're gonna do a new Hunt Palmers series,
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LSU Baseball position preview series as Hunt is going to
break things down position by position, and I love this
even more than the portal for multiple reasons. First off,
there's so much more turnover in baseball, right that, like
every single year is like meeting a new.
Speaker 2: Cast of characters.
Speaker 3: We're right here on the edge of another season, and
so these are gonna give you the little water cooler
names and kind of the base facts of what you
need to know and what you need to be interested
in going into the season. And we start Jake with
I would argue probably the most remade position group on
the entire team and that is catcher. I mean, think
about it, Malaso, Travinsky, Bread, Neil all gone, the guys
that have started what every game for the last two
years for the Tigers. You have three trancers and a
and a and a stud freshman that are replacing them.
So it's a I mean, can you think of any again,
any position or like any position on the team that
is more brand new than catcher.
Speaker 5: I mean it feels like they have so many options too,
And you're right, like, I think the thing about the
catcher position and having so many different options as you
lay them out and you kind of look at it,
who's it going to be one? But also you just
you knew for so long it was you know, Travinsky
and Malaso and even Neil, like it was names that
you knew and they were there for such a long time,
and so like you're completely restarting at that position as well,
like it's gonna be somebody new, and you know anytime
you have like a championship run too, and and certainly
like Travinsky what he did in that championship season and
how he came on late in the season, like it's
going to be remembered for a long time.
Speaker 2: It's going to kind of boost that position up.
Speaker 5: And so it is exciting though that you get some
new blood, some new faces in there, and also think
that it's not you've got four guys trying to compete
for a spot because there's nobody that's going to take
the job. It feels like, and hunt kild tell me
if I'm wrong. It feels like there's four guys that
kind of deserve the job, and they're looking for the
best of that core group that's really playing well, and
they all deserve.
Speaker 2: The job, but like the cream kind of rises to
the top.
Speaker 5: And not like ah Man, we got four guys, nobody's
really won the job, and we're just kind of settle
for who's the best of this group.
Speaker 3: So right now they got Louis her Nandez Indiana State Transfer.
This is the guy that hit twenty three home run
seventy six ribis last year, eleven hundred at ops, so
very productive bat but has not caught in two years. Defensively,
there's Blaze Priester. Who how about Blaze's journey Jake, he
starts at LSU, then he goes to Meridian Community College.
Now he's back at LSU. So Blaze obviously desperate to
catch on with the Tigers. I mean, the man wants it.
Then you got this. This is the superstar freshman, right
the guy that you think long term is going to
be the guy. And then some I apologize in the
last name Caid. I think it might be Aaron Beid.
I say a Rambade in my head. I know I'll
figure it out. We'll just call him.
Speaker 2: Kid for now.
Speaker 3: But six' three five star could have gone, pro comes
to college hit three sixty in the. Fall according TO. J,
johnson but in a theme needs some defensive work and
then the fourth Names. Eddie i'm in the fourth transfer
From dayton right. Now though coming out of, Fall Jay
johnson San fernandez had a slight edge On cad but
that Maybe priester was the best bet in the. Fall
BUT i think the overall theme is a lot of
hitting in this, group but the defense is a question,
mark and that's going to be that that's going to
be what they have to. Prove and maybe the best
way to play in time is who will be your
most consistent defensive?
Speaker 2: Option oh, man It's matt gonna do. That he doesn't
get to yell like Put molazo back?
Speaker 3: There oh oh, YEAH i mean right there Is that's
a good point because there is no, like there's no
in this. GROUP i don't, think at least not from
what hunts right up or Anything i've, read there is
no just defensive.
Speaker 2: Superstar everybody can swing.
Speaker 3: It everybody seems like they can swing, it but you,
know you got to be able to stop people from
running on you in this.
Speaker 2: League and so we'll.
Speaker 3: See but but, again like so you kind of So Louise,
hernandez we think maybe the lead Slightly Cater, Roombadey Aaron,
beid that's your superstar that you think is gonna be the.
Guy but it's a big jump coming from being a.
Freshman and then how Do preestter And Eddie yamen factor
in as? Well we will, See but there is your
preview of the catcher. Position as we are just a
couple of weeks away FROM Lsu baseball cranking up yet another,
year and we're just a couple of minutes away FROM
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