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Speaker 3: welcome back to another episode of plug Talk. My name
Speaker 3: is Adam twenty two, and I am joined today by
Speaker 3: my basket of adjectives ass wife, Lenna the Plug, who's
Speaker 3: putting a lot of pressure on me to come up
Speaker 3: with new adjectives on the daily basis for this podcast.
Speaker 1: No pressure, It's just that every time I sit here,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna get hit with. So
Speaker 1: I'm like a little on edge with what you're gonna
Speaker 1: throw my way.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to bring this up too quickly,
Speaker 3: but look at the road rash. You've been skating, you've
Speaker 3: been bombing some holls.
Speaker 1: Listen we're gonna introduce you. But when I was gone
Speaker 1: to Japan, you replaced the workout mats and whatever these
Speaker 1: new workout mouts are. They've been giving me these rug rashes,
Speaker 1: like two weeks in a row.
Speaker 3: I was given those as a gift.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well I would.
Speaker 3: Never replace anything. You know this anyway. Today on the podcast,
Speaker 3: we have the one and only Linda Land. That's how
Speaker 3: it's pronounced, yes, Land, So is that your government name?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 3: Really you didn't switch it up? You're like, h.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I regret it. I don't regret it. No.
Speaker 2: Because Alex, my agent, was like, well, like, what do
Speaker 2: you want to change it too? I was like I
Speaker 2: have nothing. I'm like it's fine.
Speaker 1: It is weird because I feel like if you did
Speaker 1: change it, you would, I mean, at least if you
Speaker 1: follow like the other girls in the industry, still have
Speaker 1: to pick something that sounds Asian, which must also be weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I tried. I was going to do like
Speaker 2: Linda Lee, but then he was like, well it needs
Speaker 2: to be spelled the way it sounds, and I was
Speaker 2: going to do l I, not l E. So I
Speaker 2: was like, forget it. It's fine. Government name works.
Speaker 1: And what made you feel like you could commit to
Speaker 1: just putting your government name next to your porn.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been using it as my Twitter handle for
Speaker 2: a minute, so I figure changing it would be more
Speaker 2: of a pain in the butt.
Speaker 3: So she had a couple of months where her Twitter
Speaker 3: name was her government name. Yeah, unfortunate managed to get
Speaker 3: the actual at you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just didn't even think about it. I like,
Speaker 1: I was just like I didn't realize I was getting
Speaker 1: into porn, but I was.
Speaker 3: I kind of regret it too. I regret that I'm
Speaker 3: using Adam twenty two form my name on here. I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about changing it Adam Fox.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's my idea.
Speaker 3: Anyway, how are you doing today? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Give us a little bit of Well today it's been
Speaker 2: pretty chill, went to the gym, got ready, came here.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: And you just moved back out here, yes, like two
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 3: And you grew up here, yes, so okay, grew up
Speaker 3: where exactly like near Pasadena area and pretty normal bringing
Speaker 3: anything of a note, No, super super normal.
Speaker 2: My parents were like super typical, like Asian family, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to go to college, you got
Speaker 2: to be a doctor.
Speaker 3: You got to be this and that, you got to
Speaker 3: get into port.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, when you're very studious.
Speaker 2: I was not. I feel like I've always been kind
Speaker 2: of a rebel child. So I feel like my mom
Speaker 2: has known that I've been a pain in the ass
Speaker 2: since I.
Speaker 1: Was a kid. And did you have siblings?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a younger brother and a younger sister,
Speaker 2: and they're like just human angels, Like, so, well, No,
Speaker 2: my brother's an asshole. He's the youngest one, total.
Speaker 3: Jerk, a normal career and everything, I think.
Speaker 2: So he's like working on his PhD right now. And
Speaker 2: my sister is a dentist.
Speaker 1: So they fulfilled your parents' desires, so you can kind
Speaker 1: of do whatever you want. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So technically there's two doctors in the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're a head doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're some sort of doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, But what was you acting out when you
Speaker 3: were younger? Like what did that look like?
Speaker 2: I feel like I just wanted to go and do
Speaker 2: everything my friends wanted to do. I didn't understand why
Speaker 2: I couldn't go to raves when I was fourteen and
Speaker 2: I was an adult, I'm like I understand, like it's
Speaker 2: not the place for kids to be.
Speaker 3: When I was fourteen, I was jealous because I knew
Speaker 3: there were raves going on that I didn't know how
Speaker 3: to get to them. I didn't know anyone who wanted
Speaker 3: to go to them, but I thought the idea of
Speaker 3: it sounded a really cool idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so my mom was like, you're not going,
Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, I guess I'm not going.
Speaker 2: But as a kid, you're like, well, I want to.
Speaker 1: Be there because everybody else is there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, now I think it makes sense. I didn't go,
Speaker 2: so I where she met me.
Speaker 1: Okay, but my first rave was like senior year of
Speaker 1: college and like, no, a senior of high school. But
Speaker 1: I drove everyone and didn't do any drugs, so like
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, so I was there.
Speaker 3: Why because you're in that environment without being sucked up.
Speaker 3: It's like, whoa, what the hell?
Speaker 1: I didn't started like experimenting with drugs till I was
Speaker 1: already in college, so but yeah, that's big.
Speaker 3: Sameish, Okay, you graduated high school despite raving and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to go, but yeah, so I didn't
Speaker 2: get to go. I was just being a good kid.
Speaker 3: So what you have to do instead hang out outside
Speaker 3: the seven eleven.
Speaker 2: Uh No, but I did cheer in high school, so
Speaker 2: that like took them a lot of time. And then
Speaker 2: I was pretty good academically, and so that was that.
Speaker 2: I was just a normal kid. I went to school,
Speaker 2: took my classes, took a couple ap classes, and then
Speaker 2: you ended up at college. So yes, yeah, you did good.
Speaker 1: You followed the directions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did pretty okay, went to UCSB, got kicked out.
Speaker 2: Wait what I know, I had fun, but I just
Speaker 2: I don't like school.
Speaker 1: I've never got kicked out for not having good enough
Speaker 1: grades anymore. Yes, they do that, they do that. It
Speaker 1: was a below two point zero. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like consistently bad for a while,
Speaker 2: and I just kind of like ignored it.
Speaker 1: And I was, Yeah, did you get kicked out your
Speaker 1: first year? No? My third? I made it all the
Speaker 1: way to my third.
Speaker 3: Wow. How promiscuits were you during this arc of your life?
Speaker 2: I feel like I was promiscuous, but not like any
Speaker 2: more than a normal college girl.
Speaker 3: How many bodies did you have by the time they
Speaker 3: kicked you out?
Speaker 2: Probably not that many, I think I think like under ten.
Speaker 1: It was pretty well. I think, yeah, did you have boyfriends?
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My first year I had like a like a lot
Speaker 2: like a boyfriend, like from high school going to college.
Speaker 2: So that was like kind of like my first year.
Speaker 2: And no, he actually went into.
Speaker 1: The Air Force.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So then we broke up. And then my second year,
Speaker 2: I think I started dating a guy that lived in
Speaker 2: San Luis Obispo, and so then I was like doing
Speaker 2: that drive from Santa Barbara to Slow, and then I
Speaker 2: ended up moving to Slow once I got kicked out,
Speaker 2: and then I loved Slow. I stayed there for almost
Speaker 2: ten years.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful, just enjoyed the slow paced way of
Speaker 3: life out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a minute. Like when I first
Speaker 2: got out there, I actually hated it, did not like it.
Speaker 2: Like going from LA to Santa Barbara was already like
Speaker 2: a big change, Like it was just like really quiet,
Speaker 2: really like a little too slow for me. And then
Speaker 2: going from Santa Barbara to Slow, it's like even more.
Speaker 1: But I think it was good. I like took up hiking.
Speaker 2: I like would go to the outdoors, like what else
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? No, it was so good because
Speaker 2: like I loved it, Like the beach was ten minutes away,
Speaker 2: I'd go hit the beach before I.
Speaker 1: Go to work. Crush my gosh.
Speaker 2: It's so nice because then you're just like all sandy,
Speaker 2: you smell like the sun. You're at work all day,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 1: Was a shell.
Speaker 3: At some point, when I'm done the doing ten hours
Speaker 3: of content every day part of my life, I definitely
Speaker 3: want the part of my life where I like hang
Speaker 3: out by the beach, go for a hike, do a
Speaker 3: little work every day, and not just like absolutely kill
Speaker 3: yourself every day.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like it's a good balance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: more nature.
Speaker 3: Okay, So why why'd you and during that whole time
Speaker 3: period did you're out there for ten years?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sex work? Did it ever enter into your brain?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I never even thought about doing sex work Like this
Speaker 2: was like not even a thought in my head.
Speaker 1: Like what were you doing like for work back then?
Speaker 2: So I was kind of like on and off going
Speaker 2: to school, and then I was like working in restaurants.
Speaker 2: I thought it was super fun. You know, you make
Speaker 2: good money to like hang out with people. It's like work,
Speaker 2: but it's not work.
Speaker 3: You're describing Lenna's ideal existence because the happiest time in
Speaker 3: her life was working at a grocery store and there,
Speaker 3: uh was it Santa Cruz.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, a shopper's corner. Okay, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I miss it just so cute. Missed the Slow beachway
Speaker 1: of life. It's real slow over there. Were you dating
Speaker 1: the same guy that you met when you were in
Speaker 1: college the whole time you lived in Slow or did
Speaker 1: you guys break up and you just stayed out there?
Speaker 2: No, we broke up maybe like a year, less than
Speaker 2: a year in He's just.
Speaker 1: Not good for me. Yeah, it was like taking care
Speaker 1: of a child. Then good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she knows exactly what.
Speaker 1: I was like. I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be anybody's mom. But I ended
Speaker 2: up staying out there and I loved.
Speaker 1: It, just perfect.
Speaker 3: And you're out there till the pandemic or no.
Speaker 2: I think I moved to the Bay maybe four or
Speaker 2: five years pre pandemic. So I went out there for
Speaker 2: beauty school and then and I always thought I was
Speaker 2: gonna go back to Slow, but I ended up staying
Speaker 2: in the day. I got like my first like salon job,
Speaker 2: and I loved it. I was like, well, like I
Speaker 2: guess I could stay out here. So then I stayed
Speaker 2: out there until I recently moved back to Laka. And
Speaker 2: were you cutting here or cutting and coloring everything?
Speaker 3: And so what was it about the pandemic that led
Speaker 3: you in the direction of starting on onlyvans?
Speaker 2: Well, my first photo shoot ever was a nude photo shoot,
Speaker 2: and so somebody hit me up out of nowhere on Instagram.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, do you want to you a photo shoot?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, totally, Okay, We'll meet me in this parking lot.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drive you into the forest. This was like
Speaker 2: when those do you remember those fires that happened in
Speaker 2: Santa Cruiz like a couple of years ago, So was
Speaker 2: that And he's like, oh, yeah, you know the property
Speaker 2: that I lived on, it burned down, so we could
Speaker 2: totally go shoot like on that burnt down like property.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sounds.
Speaker 3: Kind of shore. I met her. She was like trotting
Speaker 3: around downtown metropolitan areas naked taking photos and.
Speaker 1: Ship but it was like rand in the I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I have had so many people who live in the
Speaker 1: forest in the forest over there, and that scares.
Speaker 3: The shit out of me because like my whole life
Speaker 3: I've had like a pretty high level of tolerance for
Speaker 3: girls being hose, But there was definitely a moment of
Speaker 3: pause when I realized that you were just going out
Speaker 3: with photographers and naked in downtown areas.
Speaker 1: I've never fucked a photographer. Well, to this day, I
Speaker 1: can say I've never fucked a photographer.
Speaker 3: What am I if not a photographer?
Speaker 1: You are definitely not a photographer.
Speaker 3: Armed with ads at all times? Okay, but so what
Speaker 3: were those naked photo shoots like if you had never
Speaker 3: done anything like that before?
Speaker 1: It was actually like totally chill. He's okay.
Speaker 2: So, like, you know, I had like a little outfit
Speaker 2: on and then we like lost the outfit and it
Speaker 2: was like it was just like cute.
Speaker 1: We were like in the forest.
Speaker 2: And it was like all dreamy and green and like
Speaker 2: you know some burnt town like you know, things in
Speaker 2: the background.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: He never revealed himself to be a weirdo to opositions himself. No, okay, Like,
Speaker 4: so I got really lucky. I didn't die, He wasn't
Speaker 4: weird and kidnapped me. Like everything was fine. I returned
Speaker 4: home perfectly safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he gave you the photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like, yeah, totally fine. This is
Speaker 2: many many Instagram accounts ago and so yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, then how does that get you into fans?
Speaker 2: The kind of sort of So I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: like I don't mind being naked, and so like I
Speaker 2: would kind of get into like like like you know,
Speaker 2: like nude modeling, like nude art modeling, and so I
Speaker 2: was like, well, like I got it.
Speaker 1: What do I do with these pictures? You know?
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, you know, I'll start only
Speaker 2: fans like set up my like photo sets on here,
Speaker 2: and then me and like my partner would like start
Speaker 2: making videos, and so I'm like okay, yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure if I wanted to chew that because I
Speaker 2: feel like once you like cross that, then it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like a whole nother realm. And so
Speaker 2: like were starting that, I was like pretty inconsistent with it.
Speaker 2: I'd like post a video here and there, like you know,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't really do too much. I wasn't using Twitter.
Speaker 2: I like started a Twitter, and I like couldn't figure out.
Speaker 1: How to use it in the beginnings.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, so I just never used that, and
Speaker 2: so I don't know, just like slowly evolved and then
Speaker 2: like maybe like a year and a half ago, like
Speaker 2: we opened up to like shooting with other people and
Speaker 2: it's been just super fun.
Speaker 1: So you're still in a relationship now, yes, okay, but
Speaker 1: it's okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Totally like yeah, it's like work.
Speaker 1: You know. Did he become a bigger conversation once you
Speaker 1: started shooting like pro scenes?
Speaker 2: Not really, it's like kind of just the same yeah,
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what made you decide to shoot like professional porn?
Speaker 2: I So I've always been hesitant about signing with an
Speaker 2: agency because I feel like any of those like messages
Speaker 2: that come in, I just like block every single one.
Speaker 2: Am I block, block, block. And So I had collabed
Speaker 2: with Alex and I had told him that I had
Speaker 2: a friend who was like perfect for porn, you know,
Speaker 2: Alex Mack.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I collabed with him and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, telling me about like hussy and this and
Speaker 2: that and signing with an agency, Like oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds nice, you know whatever. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I know a girl who would actually be perfect for it.
Speaker 2: You know, this girl do natural boobs, natural bodies, She's
Speaker 2: fatigued she's squirre. It's like crazy, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: you've got to like meet this girl. And so he
Speaker 2: I don't think they actually ended up meeting up because
Speaker 2: for some reason their's schedules like didn't line up, but
Speaker 2: he ended up signing her, and so, you know, I
Speaker 2: talked to her and she's like, well, why don't you sign.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't really know, and so I think,
Speaker 2: like she like I think she might have shot like
Speaker 2: a scene or two, and I'm like, okay, like maybe
Speaker 2: I'll sign, like maybe there's nothing to lose.
Speaker 1: And so it's been it's been cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I signed in May, and then I was still living
Speaker 2: in the Bay, so I'd only come out here like
Speaker 2: two days out of the month or like three days
Speaker 2: out of the month, like something like really tiny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I'd come out here, he'd book me. It
Speaker 2: was a couple of days, and then I'd go home,
Speaker 2: come back out a couple of days, go home.
Speaker 1: But sounds like yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 2: And I was still like doing hair full time and.
Speaker 1: So it was like crazy.
Speaker 3: Wow. So when you're doing hair, though, were you worried
Speaker 3: that people are gonna find out out about your new career, there.
Speaker 2: Were definitely people like usually dudes. Like there was a
Speaker 2: client who would go on my Twitter and he would
Speaker 2: like specifically like like the most explicit things, you know,
Speaker 2: like it wouldn't be like something chill, like how.
Speaker 1: Is he finding his hair person's Twitter? And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I would just never look like, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like I don't even know how somebody's Twitter
Speaker 2: pops up in your anything.
Speaker 3: Guys are really underestimating a horny man, because for sure,
Speaker 3: throughout my life, if I meet a hot chick and
Speaker 3: I get on Google, I'm like, fucking Edward Snowden, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna find the nudes. I'm gonna find your Twitter. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna figure it out.
Speaker 1: I guess listen. I get very curious about people and
Speaker 1: I do google them, but I google them, I don't
Speaker 1: go on like their Twitter. I don't know. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: a lot of people are not super active on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Like it's not that hard to find a Twitter.
Speaker 3: Let's be real, No, it's not. I know your name
Speaker 3: and I search your name. Plus Twitter is probably going
Speaker 3: to show me your account.
Speaker 1: Who searches for Twitter?
Speaker 3: I do this. You have to do this for port
Speaker 3: stars all the time. Every single time I tag a
Speaker 3: porn story, just search her name and then the word Twitter.
Speaker 3: If Twitter is in the mood where they're not going
Speaker 3: to just show me stuff because it seems like lately
Speaker 3: it's gotten better. Yeah, I can actually tag porn star people.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but okay, what was your first time shooting
Speaker 3: a professional scene? Like, was it kind of first?
Speaker 2: No, So I had like before I had signed, there
Speaker 2: was a company that reached out. It was like right
Speaker 2: before AVN. So I shot like two scenes like self booked,
Speaker 2: So those were like my first two scenes, and it
Speaker 2: was like it was super chill, Like I never had
Speaker 2: a makeup artist before, you got my makeup done, like
Speaker 2: a shot two scenes, I like flew in, flew out,
Speaker 2: and then went back like two days later for AVN.
Speaker 2: So it was it was neat. It actually was just chill.
Speaker 3: I talked to so many women now who doing porn
Speaker 3: for the first time is just whatever. It's just not
Speaker 3: that big a deal. Shooting myself average person would think
Speaker 3: it was such a big deal. But if you could
Speaker 3: do it and it's not that big a deal, that's
Speaker 3: probably a pretty good sign that you were meant for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like does it not have you doing any like
Speaker 1: dialogue or anything like that.
Speaker 2: There was like not not dialogue, but it was like
Speaker 2: really loose dialogue. Okay, hey, like this is like the
Speaker 2: setup for the story because it was like a series
Speaker 2: of episodes kind of, and I like somehow fell into
Speaker 2: like that series of episodes. So I'm not really good
Speaker 2: with scripts, but if you give me like a loose
Speaker 2: something or other, like I can Okay.
Speaker 3: There wasn't anything about your first time taking professional dick
Speaker 3: that was kind of like whoa, that was a lot
Speaker 3: of dick.
Speaker 1: No, it was it's.
Speaker 2: I think the company only does BBC, so it's like
Speaker 2: just too like just massive dudes, like back to back.
Speaker 2: But your first scene was with two guys, well no,
Speaker 2: it was one guy and then we like took a
Speaker 2: little break and then I had a second scene with
Speaker 2: different guy same day.
Speaker 1: Well same day.
Speaker 3: Oh, I really wanted to get their moneys right. As
Speaker 3: long as we got here on set and get out,
Speaker 3: that counts as two scenes, right, scenes, so easy. How'd
Speaker 3: you end up doing the double vaginal thing?
Speaker 2: So it was a guy that I had collabed with
Speaker 2: and he hit me up. I guess he does a
Speaker 2: lot of DVP. For I think it's like a company
Speaker 2: that does it out of Vegas, and so he was like, hey, like,
Speaker 2: would you want to do DVP? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, it's it's different, so I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do it. And like I didn't think it was
Speaker 2: going to work, but it were and I have it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So was it fun or where you stressed the
Speaker 1: whole time? Like is one of these dicks about to
Speaker 1: come out of me?
Speaker 2: It was fun, but it's definitely challenging because I feel
Speaker 2: like it's kind of like up to them to like
Speaker 2: figure out like the yeah, because I'm just there, you know,
Speaker 2: lots of love, lots of everything, and it is hard
Speaker 2: because like when will end up getting pushed out like somehow.
Speaker 1: And then your static, so then you kind of have
Speaker 1: to figure out like what you're doing with your hands
Speaker 1: and your face and the time Carrie positioning me.
Speaker 2: Luckily, they've worked together a lot, so they're like they've
Speaker 2: got it down, and so I think I'm going to
Speaker 2: go back and do another DVP scene with them in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I don't know when things I will never do just
Speaker 3: for the.
Speaker 2: People, because you don't want to touch like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just that, it's that I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear my fan base and what they have to
Speaker 3: say about it. Yes, also I'm kind of horrified by
Speaker 3: the idea, but the idea of like them, Yeah, commentating
Speaker 3: on it. Yeah, I don't need that. You guys, you
Speaker 3: peer pressured me.
Speaker 1: Enough to not rub a dick on his own dick.
Speaker 3: I can't rub a dick on my own deck until
Speaker 3: I come. Now, that's this way too crazy. I've honestly
Speaker 3: never even like thought about giving it a chance because
Speaker 3: it just seems so out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm like fifty five teat that thing up and
Speaker 3: then just getting.
Speaker 2: There fifty five. We'll check in with you when.
Speaker 3: You please think of me in fifteen years. But okay,
Speaker 3: my question, do you consider yourself just like uh okay,
Speaker 3: In the words of Mark Spiegeler, like, he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to hire a girl unless she's a real slut. If
Speaker 3: she's just doing it because she wants to make money
Speaker 3: or because this seems like an easy bag or whatever,
Speaker 3: it's it's not going to work long term. He needs
Speaker 3: a real slut. When I hear about you just having
Speaker 3: no problem on your first pro sceine or you're doing
Speaker 3: DVP pretty early on and stuff. Do you think that
Speaker 3: you qualify well.
Speaker 2: Like to find slut Like what's like, Oh, like you
Speaker 2: just love sex.
Speaker 3: You have to love sex. You have to be willing,
Speaker 3: you know, the kind of person wants to do it
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck it.
Speaker 2: You're like, why if you're gonna send it, you just
Speaker 2: got to full send it, like you can't girl?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try anything once in your personal life, like before.
Speaker 1: You got into the industry where you trying you know,
Speaker 1: different types of things in bed with your partners or
Speaker 1: bringing in other people.
Speaker 2: No, I had never.
Speaker 1: Had you ever curious about it?
Speaker 2: Not just like never crossed my mind, Like I don't
Speaker 2: even I not like a big porn watcher, which is
Speaker 2: really interesting too, Like I feel like for me, it's
Speaker 2: more like a cerebral thing, like like reading erotica and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that way hotter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, visual, like visual is hot, but I don't like
Speaker 2: seek it out. But I feel like my personal life
Speaker 2: was pretty vanilla. I did have a guy who broke
Speaker 2: up with me because I asked him to spank me
Speaker 2: in bed. Okay, but get this. His family was a
Speaker 2: family of nudists, and I remember, oh, this is a
Speaker 2: guy who lived in Santa Cruz, Okay. So I remember
Speaker 2: thinking that that was so weird. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: your family's like nudist, you know. And I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that we had kind of like like stopped talking.
Speaker 1: Because he thought you saw his dad naked a bunch.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: No, So I never met his family because his family
Speaker 2: was from a high.
Speaker 3: They're not always naked, right, they just go get naked
Speaker 3: for like a while as a camp or whatever.
Speaker 1: They just live their life naked all the time, which
Speaker 1: I think is really in their house maybe maybe so
Speaker 1: like if you come over for dinner, are they not naked?
Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like.
Speaker 3: It's too impractical. You're making dinner. You don't want to
Speaker 3: get oil in your body or anything, right, like like
Speaker 3: the bare minimum thing you could do to protect yourself
Speaker 3: from the food.
Speaker 1: We must call a nudist. I have questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know how they live, but for
Speaker 2: some reason in my mind, I just thought it was weird.
Speaker 2: I was like, you just walk around naked with everybody
Speaker 2: you know, like all the time, Like I have never
Speaker 2: experienced it, but then apparently to him, the spanking thing
Speaker 2: was so like yeah, yeah, he was like, this is
Speaker 2: kind of weird that you asked me to stank.
Speaker 1: So he broke up with you.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we weren't like together, but we just like
Speaker 2: kind of stopped talking, And like years later he messaged
Speaker 2: me and was like, oh, you know, I just thought
Speaker 2: the spanking thing was like a little too much, Like
Speaker 2: it was more than he was like ready to handle.
Speaker 3: Once in a while, I'll think about that, like how
Speaker 3: if I was single, I am so numb to nearly
Speaker 3: everything sexually. Yes, Like I just can't imagine what that
Speaker 3: would be like for a woman to, like for her
Speaker 3: to realize that the freakiest thing that she would ever
Speaker 3: consider doing in her life is probably something I've done
Speaker 3: a bunch of times on camera, and it doesn't really
Speaker 3: like get my blood race in my heart racing or
Speaker 3: anything like that. It's like, I wonder if is that
Speaker 3: a turnoff to women? I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I feel there sometimes it's not even the act, but
Speaker 2: it's like the chemistry of like the people, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like with certain people there's just like
Speaker 2: like a certain chemistry that just like flows better. And
Speaker 2: then with certain people, you're like, all right, this is
Speaker 2: like work and I.
Speaker 3: Can do it, you know, But I just remember a
Speaker 3: total tangent. But like I remember Eric Thugger telling me that,
Speaker 3: like he was at a club in Hollywood and there
Speaker 3: was like some super hot chick celebrating her birthday or
Speaker 3: some shit in a section and he starts talking to
Speaker 3: her and she's totally feeling him, looking at him like
Speaker 3: he's the hottest dude, and she's like, so, what do
Speaker 3: you do And he's like, I do porn. It's just
Speaker 3: like like she was so over it right away, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's gotta happen. That's gotta be
Speaker 3: some percentage of girls right there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the same way when you
Speaker 1: meet a guy and you're like he's like, I'm a
Speaker 1: promoter or I'm a photographer. It's like a personal trainer.
Speaker 1: You're like, these are all lines of duty where I
Speaker 1: can't trust him.
Speaker 3: Respectable dudes who work all those jobs.
Speaker 1: I agree. However, if you're just like a regular person
Speaker 1: who doesn't normally come into contact with the types of
Speaker 1: these types of people, they just like have stereotypes in
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 3: But porn starts going to raise red flags for like
Speaker 3: most women, now some of them might be a lot
Speaker 3: turned on. It's cool for what night. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 3: we don't talk about the girls meeting male porn star
Speaker 3: thing that often. We all know how guys feel about
Speaker 3: meeting porn stars or whatever, which is that they like overcompensate,
Speaker 3: They like probably say weird shit, they expect too much. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like we I heard so much about that. Don't want
Speaker 3: to take him serious in the long run. Whatever, But
Speaker 3: like I don't know if when you before me, I.
Speaker 1: Was just thinking about like if I was at the
Speaker 1: club and I was drinking and I was partying, and
Speaker 1: I was single, and if a guy I met a
Speaker 1: guy who said that he did porn and he looked good,
Speaker 1: I would be so fucking.
Speaker 2: Excited because it's such a good story to tell your friends.
Speaker 1: Like this is going to for sure be fun sex.
Speaker 1: Like he's not going to come in one second, He's
Speaker 1: not gonna like I'm not going to be boring coming.
Speaker 3: In one second. No, but like no, I get it.
Speaker 3: I feel the same. But yeah, but also like a
Speaker 3: lot of girls, it's like, oh, you fucked four girls, cool,
Speaker 3: you fucked five hundred girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I feel like it depends on the girl. I feel
Speaker 2: like some girls are just kind of like that, you know,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, that's disgusting, you know when it is weird.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like when I was in my twenties,
Speaker 2: I was having less safe sex than I am now.
Speaker 2: Like you, yeah, yeah, it was so bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like I was like a next level
Speaker 3: gross porn star before I got into the porn world
Speaker 3: because I was having all this crazy random sex, not
Speaker 3: getting tested more than like every couple of months, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe every Yeah. And so people I just met were
Speaker 3: blackout and drunk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you literally wouldn't remember that.
Speaker 1: I feel so grateful to have never got anything back then,
Speaker 1: just like no, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: We shot porn with girls where I at least spent
Speaker 3: like a couple of seconds thing in like, is the
Speaker 3: saint I didn't bang her in twenty twelve, did I?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Oh my god, you have a really bad memory.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that your memory, they would.
Speaker 3: Probably remember me before I remembered them.
Speaker 2: Anywhere you stand out, Yeah, I felt like like a
Speaker 2: distinct look.
Speaker 3: But I always I always expect to see some random
Speaker 3: chicken being back in the day like in the porn game,
Speaker 3: and it never really never really happens. It's just too
Speaker 3: many fish in.
Speaker 1: Has anyone from your pre porn life tried to hit
Speaker 1: you up now that they see that you're in this industry?
Speaker 2: I not too many people. I don't know how many
Speaker 2: people actually know. But I had an ex boyfriend who's
Speaker 2: still like to like so like maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: months ago. He would still message me on OnlyFans and
Speaker 2: I had to tell him to stop because he's got
Speaker 2: a baby, like and he's like in a relationship you
Speaker 2: know of like yours, and I should have told him.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, like I don't want to talk
Speaker 2: to you, like I don't want to cause any drama,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know. I Yeah, he was like, oh hey,
Speaker 2: like can we meet up? Like hey this and that.
Speaker 1: I was like no, what.
Speaker 2: My god, Like absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I definitely had a guy from high school like proposition
Speaker 1: me with money, and I was like I don't do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was about the doll.
Speaker 2: No, it's the principle of it. It's like you have
Speaker 2: a child with somebody and you're still doing this behind
Speaker 2: like it's the dishonest.
Speaker 3: But you don't think there's something kind of hot about
Speaker 3: somebody cheating on their significant other with you. But I
Speaker 3: agree that the kids it very different.
Speaker 2: It's fucked up because I feel like nobody ever wants
Speaker 2: to be in that situation because that could be me
Speaker 2: one day, and I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Be that Perple Rappers are always talking about fucking somebody
Speaker 3: else's bitch. Yeah, And like this been a few times
Speaker 3: in my life where I was sucking a girl where
Speaker 3: like I knew that her boyfriend hated me, and for sure.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, see that's different.
Speaker 3: But that was like before our kids were even Like
Speaker 3: like I don't know if I ever fucked a girl
Speaker 3: with a kid before, like like maybe like a handful
Speaker 3: of my whole life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I've only slept with like a handful of
Speaker 2: people with kids, I think, But I don't know. There's
Speaker 2: something about like a like a structured.
Speaker 1: Family that family exists, yes.
Speaker 2: And it's like it's a happy ish thing, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I feel like I could never be
Speaker 2: a home wrecker.
Speaker 1: With social media now, it's hard to like just act
Speaker 1: like you see everyone's like lives online.
Speaker 3: You know, I wish we had Carmen and Karma on
Speaker 3: this podcast. She would be like, Hey, yeah, I like
Speaker 3: to break up a happy home. Come get this pussy.
Speaker 3: You guys are both like doing the good person things.
Speaker 3: Should say that you don't think there's a lot of girls.
Speaker 3: There's girls we've had on here who think like cheating
Speaker 3: is hot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you think cheating is hot?
Speaker 3: I have I have a fetish for it, like like,
Speaker 3: if I know the girl is cheating me, no, I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like block that out of my mind now
Speaker 3: that I'm going to have a relationship. But for sure,
Speaker 3: there's been plenty of times in my life where I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, she has a husband. This
Speaker 3: is so hot.
Speaker 2: I feel like in a storyline, if I'm watching it,
Speaker 2: that's hot. But I feel like my moral compass like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like, I wouldn't feel right.
Speaker 1: You change my mind. I think cheating is super hot too.
Speaker 3: You're lying.
Speaker 1: Now that we're on the same page.
Speaker 3: Okay, So in your mind, how deep are you willing
Speaker 3: to go into the porn star lifestyle. Are you trying
Speaker 3: to do everything? Are you trying to really push this
Speaker 3: to the match? Anal blow bang words me.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm down for it is a blowbang,
Speaker 2: just like a game bang blowjob.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a blowjob based mess, but yeah it could
Speaker 3: be down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've only done like a two guy thing, and that
Speaker 2: was already a mess. Like you're blind in the eye,
Speaker 2: You've got slabber all over your face.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's hard to look super sexy.
Speaker 1: You're just like squished down in this one position on
Speaker 1: your knees and they're aching and your mouth hurts.
Speaker 2: I know, they're like fucking your face. You're just like crying.
Speaker 2: It was just like it's so not I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: it's hot.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see you in a gang bang.
Speaker 3: Bang is insane because it's like the girl has to
Speaker 3: act as if she's dying to suck all these dicks,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of like like a couple of
Speaker 3: seconds of each you want. It's like sometimes when you
Speaker 3: actually are watching it, you're like, what is It's going?
Speaker 1: Very stressful?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like it's hard with my coordination.
Speaker 2: Like if I got my right like right hand going
Speaker 2: and then I like forget about my left hand, You're like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this, You're like I'm a tone a lot.
Speaker 1: To think about it.
Speaker 3: I shot a plug talk episode with Dan Dangler and
Speaker 3: uh Will Pounder, and honestly, I was like really impressed.
Speaker 3: Like her double blowjob skills were very like she just
Speaker 3: had like a lot of different tricks in her bag
Speaker 3: of like ways to do it and keep it interesting.
Speaker 2: I know, I need a study watch. There's always room
Speaker 2: for improvement and put it up on the big screen.
Speaker 3: Oh there's been quite a bit of thought that's gone
Speaker 3: into this in events. Yeah, yeah, definitely. There hasn't been
Speaker 3: any real stress put on the relationship that you're in
Speaker 3: due to the porn thing. No, what's his perspective on it?
Speaker 3: Does he like seeing her or is it exact like
Speaker 3: it's not happening.
Speaker 2: He's like he's super supportive about it. I remember like
Speaker 2: one of my first collapse, like he actually like dropped
Speaker 2: me off. And then there was some like random guy
Speaker 2: like trying to do the good smarton thing, like message
Speaker 2: my boyfriend on like Instagram was like, Hey, your girl
Speaker 2: is fucking other guys. I just wanted to let you
Speaker 2: know my you know, my partner was like yeah, like
Speaker 2: I drove her and I dropped her off and I
Speaker 2: kissed her.
Speaker 1: Goodbye, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this guy was like, wait, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you dropped her off? He like
Speaker 2: could not like just process.
Speaker 3: It was so hard for me to wrap my head
Speaker 3: around that in the beginning, like when Carmen was like
Speaker 3: my main reference, like, yeah, her husband would like drive
Speaker 3: her over and like chilling the.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, supportive partner like yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: You just feel And so does he work with other
Speaker 1: people receiving in this industry?
Speaker 2: He does work with other people. He shoots a lot
Speaker 2: of like povs type stuff. So I feel like we
Speaker 2: have like a good like work understanding.
Speaker 3: And he got into it with you at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he is a photographer first and then he
Speaker 2: like got into like videography, so so now he does both.
Speaker 2: He'll do like photo shoots, he'll do videos, so he'll
Speaker 2: do like all of that.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's nice. I feel like communication is just the
Speaker 2: most important.
Speaker 3: Audio slash visuals slash cock professional.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, literally, we love him.
Speaker 3: A jack of all trades, yeah.
Speaker 1: Multi, including jacking off. I was like waiting for the
Speaker 1: jack jack.
Speaker 2: It's coming, It's coming.
Speaker 3: See Anyway, I have an idea we all fuck, let's
Speaker 3: go down.