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He says, you can blame the cost of 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,920 the cocaine on Donald Trump. If he wasn't blowing up 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,760 all those drug boats, it'd be a lot cheaper. That's 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:10,040 probably true, Probably true, too good to check. That's more 22 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:13,719 along the lines of waste. You know, there's waste, fraud, 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,519 and abuse. So maybe maybe a little bit of abuse, 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,519 maybe a little bit of waste or sorry, a little 25 00:01:18,519 --> 00:01:21,799 bit of fraud, but probably mostly waste for a lot 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,599 of that spending, which brings us full circle back to 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,400 the what are we calling this? By the way up 28 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:33,519 in Minnesota, Eh, what are we calling the Is it Somaligate? 29 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't yeah, Somali Simolians? What are we calling it? 30 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:46,879 Speaker 2: Every good scandal, you know, needs a branding. So once 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,319 that happens, I think then mainstream media will start paying 32 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:58,400 attention to the story. But the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls, 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:05,640 he of the jazz and the very macho persona because 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,199 he wore the camouflage hat that time in the campaign 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,159 for vice president. This was a guy who was going 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,479 to be vice president. Remember, this was the person that 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,479 Kamala Harris elevated to the veep slot, which kind of 38 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:22,520 made sense at the time because like he was such 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,159 a buffoon. 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Tim Wallas, he's such a buffoon that, you know. 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: You never, if you're the president, you never want your 42 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:33,879 veep to be better than you. Right, It's kind of 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,479 an insurance policy, you know, so people don't impeach you 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,360 out of office. 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Because they're like, I don't want this person. 46 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: The problem that Harris was facing was that she was 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,639 the buffoon for Joe Biden, who was the buffoon for Obama. Right, 48 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:56,120 so you had this lineage thing going there that you know, 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,919 you got your you know Obama, Remember he beat Hillary Clinton, 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 so he was sort of the blank slate, fresh faced guy, 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,520 so he didn't he could pick whoever he wanted. So 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,000 you don't want somebody that's gonna upstate, you enter Joe 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Biden obviously, right, So now you have Joe in there, 54 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:17,560 old Joe, Sheriff, Joe whatever. And then you know, he 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,759 comes back to run and then he's got to pick somebody, 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,879 and he promised, you know, it would be a black woman. 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: And so rather than pick anybody. 58 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:31,479 Speaker 2: Literally literally anybody other than her, he picks her Kamala Harris, 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,840 because she couldn't even carry her home state. And that's 60 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:37,759 again for an insurance purpose, like for Joe, like she's 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,639 not a formidable opponent right to unseat him, as he's 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,520 in mental decline, right, or cognitive decline. 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: So then she has to pick somebody. 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,759 Speaker 2: And remember she had a couple of good options that 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,960 were available to her, like Josh Shapiro, the popular Democrat 66 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:02,360 governor of Pennsylvania. But problem for Shapiro. 67 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:05,919 Speaker 1: He's Jewish, Yeah. 68 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,319 Speaker 2: And that really didn't play very well, still doesn't probably 69 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,520 in the Democrat Party, so had to pass him over 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,639 for the. 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,519 Speaker 1: Buffoon of Tim Walls. Anyway, he has now. 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,959 Speaker 2: Responded to some of these stories that have gone viral 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,680 based off of the the independent journalist YouTuber Nick Shirley, 74 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,040 who went around to a bunch of these different Somali 75 00:04:33,079 --> 00:04:37,759 owned daycare centers, adult healthcare centers, and medical centers and 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,319 transportation companies and such that are all just basically front operations. 77 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Right. 78 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: I covered this in depth yesterday. I'm not going to 79 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:48,800 go over all of the the ins and outs of it, 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:55,199 but it's it's a pretty enormous scandal, costing hundreds of 81 00:04:55,199 --> 00:04:58,759 millions or billions of dollars. And it's not just these 82 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:02,839 three types of businesses that I've listed. There are a 83 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:05,879 bunch of others that actually has been pretty well known 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,439 for somewhere in the neighborhood of a decade in Minnesota. Okay, 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,720 because now after the Nick Shirley video went viral, now 86 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,959 you're seeing all of these reporters and bloggers and journalists 87 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:22,360 from Minnesota and elsewhere that have been saying that are saying, look, hey, 88 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,279 we've been We've been sounding the alarm on this for 89 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:29,480 over a decade, and nothing seems to ever get done. 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,360 So at some point you have to start wondering why 91 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:34,680 he hasn't anything been done. 92 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: So. 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,959 Speaker 2: Tim Walls or, a spokesperson for Governor Jazz Hands, issued 94 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,040 a defensive statement in the wake of the explosive video 95 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:52,560 to Fox News, insisting that Walls has been cracking down 96 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,480 on fraud. He's been doing this for years. He's been 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,879 hiring auditors, shutting down programs, and supporting the prosecutions. 98 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:02,079 Speaker 1: Quote. 99 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: The governor has worked for years to crack down on 100 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,120 fraud and ask the state legislature for more authority to 101 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,040 take aggressive action. 102 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: He has strengthened oversight. Think about this. 103 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,759 Speaker 2: If this is what cracking down looks like, I would 104 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,519 hate to see what ignoring it looks like. He has 105 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,279 launched investigations into these specific facilities, one of which was 106 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,759 already closed, right, which then, if they're talking about the 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,680 leering center, not the learning center, the sign clearly said leering. 108 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,519 It's a leering center. Not sure what that is, but 109 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:42,279 the Leering Center. It was shut down and then it 110 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:47,480 reopened by the same people at the same location, and 111 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,279 then they got their money restored. So that's the kind 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,160 of crackdown Governor jazz Hands is touting. The statement added 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,560 that Walls has hired an outside firm to audit payments 114 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,879 to high high risk programs, which is, by the way, 115 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,360 like all fourteen of the types of programs that the 116 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,959 state administers, like every one of the they call them 117 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:13,399 the fraudy fourteen, and they're just these whole sectors. It's 118 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:17,560 not like individual companies, it's like all of the companies 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,560 inside of these agencies, all fourteen of these agencies at 120 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:28,319 the state level high risk programs. So they say that 121 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,160 he hired an outside firm to audit payments to high 122 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,439 risk programs, shut down the Housing Stabilization Services program entirely 123 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,319 because that was rife with fraud, announced a new statewide 124 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,560 program integrity director. Oh yeah, so we can hire somebody, 125 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,720 and supported criminal prosecutions. Then he posted a message on 126 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:50,399 Twitter or somebody in his in the governor's office did 127 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,240 highlighting the all of the positives of the state. So 128 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:58,959 first he put out the statement, uh uh, we're cracking down, 129 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,439 followed up by a tweet that says Minnesota's fantastic number 130 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:10,680 eight state for safety, number five state to live in, 131 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,560 number three state for germs, number two state to raise 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,199 a family, and number two state to retire. We've made progress, 133 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:25,000 but there's more to do to deliver security, opportunity, and 134 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,360 freedom to every Minnesotan. I won't quit fighting until we're 135 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,039 number one, to which Nick Shirley, the guy who did 136 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,000 the video, he responded to that tweet saying number one 137 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,799 for fraud. Why not list that in your accomplishments as well? 138 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Now? 139 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: Governor Walls also spoke briefly about this scandal at a 140 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,279 rally of some kind. 141 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: And this is what happens when they target communities for 142 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:57,279 their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat, 143 00:08:57,759 --> 00:08:59,679 and this is what say happens when they no longer 144 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:01,679 high the idea of white supremacy. 145 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: So it's racism, which I said yesterday. That has been 146 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,679 the shield that the Somali fraudsters and Democrats and media 147 00:09:17,159 --> 00:09:22,360 have been using in order to distract people or to 148 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,840 intimidate people off. 149 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: Of the story. This has been the common go to. 150 00:09:27,159 --> 00:09:29,159 Speaker 2: I covered this a couple of weeks ago gave you 151 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:38,279 the examples of the Somali organizations and lawmakers accusing others 152 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:44,559 of racism, zenophobia, islamophobia, whatever, phobia for asking any questions 153 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,159 whatsoever about any of this fraud. And now you've got 154 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,799 Tim Walls saying the same thing. It's white supremacy to say, hey, 155 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:54,879 where are all these billions of our dollars going? Shut 156 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:01,120 up racist? That's the response. 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So I mentioned before the break, I said 177 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,559 that Democrats have become intellectually flabby. And for people who may. 178 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Not know why I say that, how dare you, sir? 179 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:20,639 How do I say that? Why do I say that? 180 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:26,799 Speaker 2: Well, because they have been protected for a very long 181 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:32,639 time in political debates on policy issues and such by 182 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,639 a compliant or complicit or at very least friendly media apparatus. 183 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,240 They rarely have to make their arguments in any other frame, 184 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:49,440 especially in the last decade. Besides, you know, orange man 185 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,679 bead Trump is hitler, but more so it's you know, 186 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:56,639 systemic racism. You're a racist, You're a bigot, You're a 187 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,360 fill in the blank of phobe. If you oppose this policy. 188 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,200 I'm proposing this policy. It's for the children, it's for 189 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,000 the poor, it's for the elderly, it's for the fill 190 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:10,679 in the blank. And so if you oppose my policy, 191 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200 then that means you hate these people, right, And so 192 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,679 what happens is this used to work. 193 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: It no longer does. 194 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:22,519 Speaker 2: But what used to happen then is that Republicans would 195 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:27,960 be afraid of, you know, responding to the policy arguments 196 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:30,519 because they don't want to be called these terrible things. 197 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,679 Nobody wants to be called these names, okay, But just 198 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,960 like any word that you overuse, like six seven or whatever, 199 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,360 it loses its impact. So at some point people start 200 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:47,320 ignoring you when you call them these names. And that's 201 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,320 where we are now. And what now remains is this 202 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,360 inability because they are out of practice. Democrats are largely 203 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,519 out of practice in making the arguments from a policy perspective, 204 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:04,000 because let's face it, most people don't care about policy. 205 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:07,080 They care about the teams, right, They care about the 206 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:11,240 jerseys and are you on my team or you not 207 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,480 on my team? So I don't need to know what 208 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,519 the details of the policy are because that's hard. That 209 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,480 means I have to read the bill. And remember John 210 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,840 Conyer's I say read the bill. No one reads the bills, right, 211 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:25,279 that's the problem. Nobody reads the bills. So the people 212 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:28,759 who are up there defending a bill or opposing a bill, 213 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:31,159 they don't actually know what's in the bill. They don't 214 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,080 know what the impacts are going to be. And any 215 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,320 bill that you write, any law that you pass, is 216 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,120 going to have unintended consequences as well, things that you 217 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,120 could not foresee. 218 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,279 Speaker 1: And that's always the case. 219 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: As Thomas soul the great economist, said, there are no solutions, 220 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:50,360 there are only trade offs, and nobody wants to talk 221 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:53,679 about the trade offs. No one wants to acknowledge that 222 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:57,000 their proposal may have a trade off. That it's not 223 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,759 all unicorns and sunshine, right, No, this is going to 224 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:07,159 solve the problem. And so here we have an example 225 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,279 of this where Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, says 226 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:15,799 that the reason why this is now exploded into the 227 00:14:15,879 --> 00:14:19,519 national dialogue is because of white supremacy, which is absurd. 228 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,279 It's not white supremacy, it's fraud. It's got nothing to 229 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,279 do with race. What it may have something to do 230 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,200 with is a cultural norm that exists in Somalia. However, 231 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,639 and pointing that out is not racist. It's not xenophobic, 232 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:40,759 it's not islamophobic. It is reality. And I heard Nick 233 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:43,559 Craig who was filling in for Vince Cochley earlier this morning, 234 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,799 and he talked about this as well. And I've made 235 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:50,879 this point also that so much time is wasted in 236 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:55,120 these debates because Democrats spend so much time pretending that 237 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:58,720 they don't understand a topic. They don't understand an argument, 238 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:01,399 that you're making a position that you are, that you 239 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,360 are arguing for something, and so they don't want to 240 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,039 argue the merits of the argument. They try to I 241 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,240 call it, you know, open up the escape patch and 242 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,639 jump through. They want to bail from the argument, So 243 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:19,559 call you some names. If that doesn't, if that doesn't 244 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,720 move you off of your argument, you know, then it's like, well, 245 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,840 I don't understand why you have to attack the smallise 246 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:33,440 or whatever. You know, this ascribing of nefarious motive to 247 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:38,960 their opponents rather than examining just the issue. 248 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: What is the problem. 249 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: The problem is we've got hundreds of millions or billions 250 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,519 of dollars in fraud just in Minnesota, just in Minnesota, 251 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,200 and now we're seeing people are now running these NGO 252 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,159 grants through or they're checking the databases in their own 253 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:04,480 states and loan behold, they're finding an over representation of 254 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:10,919 Somali owned NGOs in various states, clustered in certain cities 255 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,879 that are providing the very same kinds of services quote 256 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:17,799 unquote that these uh, these operations in Minnesota have been 257 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:22,039 providing and I don't believe they've been providing it. So 258 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,159 are we supposed to just ignore all of the fraud 259 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,879 and just continue to allow that to exist because the 260 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:35,279 people conducting the fraud come from a particular country. That's absurd, 261 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,080 that's nuts. We would not ignore it if a bunch 262 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,000 of Russians were doing it, would we, of course not. 263 00:16:43,159 --> 00:16:43,759 Speaker 1: So that's why I. 264 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:46,519 Speaker 2: Mean what I mean when they when I say that, 265 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,840 they've become intellectually flabby, like they cannot argue on the 266 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:55,799 merits of this case, so they're talking about other things 267 00:16:55,919 --> 00:17:00,000 like you're racist. 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For additional terms and responsible 288 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:13,079 gaming resources see DKNG, dot co slash audio limited time offer. 289 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:15,559 Speaker 1: So in all. 290 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: Of the discussion about what's going on up in Minnesota, 291 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,640 and has been going on for quite a while, about 292 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,200 ten years, and there have been reports about it for 293 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,519 ten years, but for some reason they just can't figure 294 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:32,880 it out. I mean the government, they can't figure out 295 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,039 how to crack down on the fraud. I was sent 296 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:44,359 this by Jason and it is a video by a instagrammer. 297 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:54,039 I think she is of Indian heritage or ethnicity or 298 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,880 nationality because she has a pretty thick accent. So I'll 299 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,680 try to translates speaking in English, but it's a pretty 300 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:07,759 thick accent. Her name is Kaviakritty and self described, you know, 301 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,079 independent journalists and commentator and such. 302 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:16,519 Speaker 1: And she posts videos or whatever on the Instagram. 303 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,319 Speaker 2: And she mentioned I was not aware of this, but 304 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:26,200 the same sort of fraud scandal occurred in Sweden. Somali's 305 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:31,720 in Sweden did the same sort of thing. And she 306 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:38,079 posted this three minute breakdown called inside the Somali corruption Machine, 307 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,680 Ghost Children, Real Money. That's the name of this post. 308 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: Hey, America, while you're debating whether elhan Omar married her 309 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,119 brother for citizenship and watching every question about fraud deflected 310 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,079 as hate or racism framing, this isn't just an American story. 311 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,799 Speaker 5: Did you know the same thing happened in Sweden? 312 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: Somali born MPs and community leaders there cotton schemes, siphoning, 313 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,960 over one hundred million from. 314 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 5: Schools, welfare and public programs. 315 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: In Minnesota, prosecutors say two hundred and fifty million men 316 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,000 to feed hungry American children was stolen. The largest welfare 317 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:12,920 fraud in US. 318 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:17,079 Speaker 5: Is sorry history, same patterns. 319 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,319 Speaker 4: Same community networks, same playbook, and everyone insists these are 320 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,799 isolated incidents. So how do two countries four thousand miles 321 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:27,079 apart end up with nearly identical fraud networks led by 322 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,880 people from the exact same place. 323 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: To understand that, you have to understand Somalia. 324 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,319 Speaker 4: You see, Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since nineteen 325 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:35,880 ninety one. 326 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 5: What filled the void? Clan? 327 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: What filled the void? Is what she's saying there? 328 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: What filled the void? They haven't had a government for 329 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,799 thirty years? So what filled the void? 330 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,759 Speaker 1: Clans? 331 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: Militias, warlords and aid cartels. 332 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: Militias, warloads and aid cartels. 333 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: Eight. Theft isn't on the margins. It is the system. 334 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: Aid theft is the system, she says. It's not on 335 00:20:59,039 --> 00:20:59,480 the margin. 336 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: When an investigation found diversion and all fifty five displacement 337 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,039 cam surveyed, multiple reports documented up to seventy percent of 338 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:10,759 food aid stolen or diverted. Investigations from twenty ten to 339 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:15,079 twenty three repeatedly showed eight convoys, hijacked, taxed or resold, 340 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,839 ghost beneficiaries, fake NGOs created. 341 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: To siphon funds. Money doesn't flow through ministries. It flows 342 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:21,839 through clans. 343 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: You hear that. 344 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:31,279 Speaker 2: They siphon off the aid and it gets distributed through 345 00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:33,559 the clients, not through any kind of government ministry, because 346 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:34,480 there is no government. 347 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: Loyalty networks are greater than governance and plan leaders, controlled distributionists, 348 00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:43,480 ghost beneficiaries, and paperwork at the Hawala system. 349 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: The Hawala system, right, the Hawala system is this money system, 350 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,759 a monetary system where they move money around. This is 351 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,839 why Al Schabab has been funded, the terrorist group Al 352 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,720 Chebab has been funded with American tax dollars through this, 353 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,400 As the US attorney pointed out a couple of weeks ago, 354 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:09,559 because the Hawala system uses, you know, the security provided 355 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,839 by Al Shabab, they get their cut. 356 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,039 Speaker 1: It's a terrorist organization. 357 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,519 Speaker 4: Brilliant for diaspora emittances, but perfect for untraceable money flows. 358 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,799 Speaker 2: All right, So that was kind of difficult to understand 359 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:26,079 what she's saying there. Brilliant for diaspora remittances right, so 360 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:29,519 diaspora meaning the people who were from Somalia, they are 361 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:34,240 in the America now the diaspora, and they send money 362 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:41,680 back to Somalia remittances. And that is perfect for untraceable 363 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:42,799 money flows. 364 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:48,319 Speaker 4: Untraceable money flows, billions move outside Western oversight. This is 365 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:54,039 Somalia's operating system, survival economics, built on exploitation, ghost paperwork, intimidation, 366 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,599 and aid theft. Now drop that system into Western welfare 367 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,920 state's built on trust, self reporting, and. 368 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 5: Paperwork, and its scales. 369 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,519 Speaker 4: Diaspora networks recreated familiar structures. Minnesota wasn't ready for clan 370 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:10,359 based accounting, Sweden wasn't built to track Hawala style flows, 371 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:14,079 and social workers want trained to audit war economy fraud. 372 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,559 Minnesota scandal wasn't a mistake. It was a blueprint. Sweden's 373 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,599 wasn't random. Same methods, different country, bigger budgets. As the 374 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,640 uncomfortable truth, Minnesota looks identical to all un scandals and 375 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:32,160 Somalia ghost children, ghost beneficiaries, fake signatures, fake invoices, fake food, 376 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,480 real money. Only difference in Somalia the money came from aid. 377 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,279 In Minnesota and Sweden it comes from taxpayers. When a 378 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:44,599 survival economy built on ad theft enters welfare systems, fraud 379 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,680 isn't accidental. 380 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:46,599 Speaker 5: It's predictable. 381 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: Do you hear what she's saying there? 382 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: Which makes sense that a survival economy that Somalia has 383 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,279 been for thirty years, that has been built on aid theft, 384 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:06,039 when that system, when that cultural norm enters a welfare 385 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:12,480 system like Minnesota or Sweden, well, fraud isn't a byproduct 386 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:18,599 or it's not some you know, random accidental outcome. It's predictable. 387 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:21,799 It should be known because this is what their system 388 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:24,440 has been. So they're just taking the system that they 389 00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:26,400 use and they're bringing it here. 390 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: Isn't accidental, it's predictable. Elan Oma won't tell you this 391 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,440 because it collapses her narrative. These aren't isolated scandals, their 392 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,920 warnings failed states don't stay contained. Their corruption systems travel, 393 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,400 and if the West keeps treating this conversation as taboo, 394 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,880 the losses won't stop by two hundred and fifty million. 395 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,119 The stakes are far bigger than most are willing to admit. 396 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: There you go. 397 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,039 Speaker 2: I was talking about this yesterday, that all cultures are 398 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:59,039 not the same, and that all cultures are not quote 399 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,960 equal in the benefits they provide to the people that 400 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000 live in those cultures and in the way that that 401 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,359 cultural norm could be ported into a different cultural norm. 402 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,599 There is conflict there. So there's a guy named Scott 403 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,799 Johnson writing a power line blog. He, along with Bill Glon, 404 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:27,640 Lou Ragus, and other members of the local Twin Cities 405 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:32,279 media have been covering the massive public programs fraud committed 406 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,599 by a large cast of almost exclusively Somali perpetrators for 407 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,319 quite a while. 408 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: He says, for. 409 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,839 Speaker 2: Those just tuning in, Bill Glon points out, just to 410 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,279 take one example, that kstp's j Coles knocked on alleged 411 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,599 daycare doors in January of twenty twenty five. So this 412 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,160 local reporter did exactly what Nick Shirley just did. The 413 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,400 Shirley video implies that something must be done, an investigation 414 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,839 must be conducted, perpetrators must be held to account. This 415 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,759 implication does a disservice to what has been done by 416 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:09,839 the federal authorities to date. Though I pointed this out 417 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,319 as well yesterday. There have been prosecutions the FBI and 418 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,599 the DOJ. Local media there are aware of this. This 419 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,279 is not a new thing. It just exploded into the 420 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,680 national consciousness over the weekend because of this video. The 421 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,319 FBI executed search warrants. For example, US Attorney brought an 422 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,200 initial set of charges back in July and in September. 423 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,440 At that September press conference, the then Acting US Attorney 424 00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:43,039 Joe Thompson all but shouted the point from the rooftop, 425 00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:50,240 Minnesota is drowning in fraud. He's telling people to wake up. 426 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,920 The FBI and the US Attorney have been on the 427 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,519 case on this since twenty twenty one. In fact, I 428 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,799 saw a clip of former WBT host former Congressman from 429 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:06,119 Minnesota Jason Lewis, talking about this in a twenty eighteen hearing, 430 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:14,000 and he was citing fraud from twenty fourteen. Again not 431 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,519 new Surveillance footage from a state fraud case prosecuted in 432 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,359 twenty eighteen shows that purported daycare centers linked to Somali 433 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,119 immigrants in Minnesota were involved in fraud schemes as early 434 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,960 as twenty fifteen. Video recorded outside one of these facilities 435 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,640 in Minneapolis shows parents entering to drop off their kids 436 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,039 and then leaving with them minutes later. They have the 437 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,359 footage the kids are not going to the daycare. The 438 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,799 ten year old news report was shared on social media 439 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:52,200 this week as Minnesota faces more fraud accusations. Fox nine 440 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,440 reported that in twenty fifteen, four purported daycare centers in 441 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,359 Minneapolis were accused of billing the government even though children 442 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,359 were not present at the facilities. Another video from inside 443 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,160 a facility shows a guy handing an envelope to what 444 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,480 appears to be a parent of Somali descent, And as 445 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:14,920 we covered a couple of weeks ago, we knew this 446 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,079 to be the case as well, because the US attorney 447 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,319 says that the parents were in on it. They're all 448 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,960 part of this cultural norm, this war economy. The parents 449 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,960 get the kickbacks. The parents bring their kids there, they 450 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,920 get the envelope of cash, and they leave. They're not 451 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:41,039 actually sending the kids to the daycare. They're getting paid 452 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,359 to register. That's why they got paid to register their 453 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,440 kids as autistic. The Somali population is like the most 454 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,240 autistic population of children in Minneapolis. Why, because you get 455 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:58,240 funding in state and federal grants if you go to 456 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:03,519 these autism centers, which once again don't actually provide any services. 457 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,640 The parents get paid to do that. And then the 458 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,119 parents started shaking down the services quote unquote services the fronts. 459 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,720 They started shaking down the front saying you need to 460 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,359 pay me more. I'm gonna go over to this other 461 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720 place and they're gonna because they're promising me twelve hundred 462 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:17,359 dollars a month. 463 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: It's a mess. It is an absolute mess. 464 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,119 Speaker 2: Four people were taken into custody back in twenty fifteen 465 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:31,480 after police search these fraudulent daycare centers. Two of those 466 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:35,680 arrested took play deals and admitted to felony theft. As 467 00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,119 part of the plea deal, the state agreed not to 468 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:45,920 pursue further charges against anybody else. If you're not going 469 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,119 to punish the people for doing it, they're going to 470 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,279 keep doing it. Why wouldn't they? All Right, if you're 471 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,079 listening to this show, you know I try to keep 472 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:54,839 up with all sorts of current events, and I know 473 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,319 you do too, and you've probably heard me say get 474 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:01,319 your news from multiple sources. 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Your subscription then 491 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground 492 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,960 News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Misty 493 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,079 severe Severy writing at justthnews dot com. This is John 494 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Solomon's publication justthnews dot com reporting that US District Judge 495 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:15,400 Vince Chahabria shabriyah. 496 00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: I think that's how he pronounces that ruled that ice. Well, 497 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,240 I mean he's got two h's there c h h 498 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,759 A b ri a. Do you just ignore one h? 499 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:35,519 Is it just Chabria Chabria or Chahabria anyway? Uh? 500 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: Judge Vince ruled that ICE officials can access six categories 501 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:53,440 of basic personal information. Those six categories would be address, citizenship, 502 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:59,559 immigration status, phone number, date of birth, and Medicaid I 503 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:09,039 d ICE officials can access those six categories. This ruling 504 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:16,039 came yesterday, says the Trump administration can share medicaid information 505 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,400 pertaining to illegal migrants with Immigration and Customs enforcement officers. 506 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,519 This will begin next month, so day after tomorrow, ICE 507 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:34,640 will be able to use the information that is in 508 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:42,839 the federal government databases in order to deport people. Which 509 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,720 is weird because I thought, I thought nobody was if 510 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,079 you were a legal immigrant, you weren't getting medicaid, right, 511 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:50,759 Wasn't that? 512 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Wasn't that? 513 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,079 Speaker 2: That's what we've been told that the it's not happening 514 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,960 phase of the phases that start with it's not happening, 515 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 and then Okay, it's happening, but it's very rare, and 516 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,839 then okay, find it's happening, but here's why it's a 517 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,480 good thing. So we've now accepted the fact that the 518 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,400 it's not happening phase is over, right, that that phase 519 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,960 is over. It is happening. I guess now we are 520 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,960 at the phase where it's happening, but it's not happening 521 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,400 a lot. Okay, well, it's not happening a lot, but 522 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,079 it shouldn't be happening at all. And so therefore ICE 523 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,119 is going to start utilizing the information. If you're here 524 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720 illegally and you're getting medicaid benefits, they're going to use 525 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,759 that information to now find you and get you out 526 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:33,279 of the country. 527 00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: So you might want to. 528 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,799 Speaker 2: Take up the government's offer of a fleet free plane 529 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,279 ride and three thousand dollars to go back to your 530 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,200 nation of origin, to go back to your home country, which, 531 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,759 by the way, I saw a proposal if you are 532 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:55,480 here claiming asylum, right, And this is what Joe Biden's 533 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680 Department of Homeland Security did. They they allowed, you know, 534 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:02,759 ten fifteen million people to come in. They gave them 535 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,880 just mass asylum status approval for their asylum claims, which 536 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,760 is illegal. You're supposed to do that on a case 537 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,679 by case basis. But Alejandro Mayorkis, the Secretary of Homeland 538 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,559 Security at the time, just gave them all, just approved 539 00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:20,840 everybody in violation of the law. But he was never 540 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,559 held accountable for that, as nobody ever is apparently. So 541 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,199 if you go back to your home country and you're 542 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,719 an asylum seeker. 543 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 544 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: So if you come into America illegally, cross the border, 545 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480 turn yourself over. This this was how the operations would run. 546 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,000 They would you know, the cartels would would traffic people 547 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,000 across the border. And then you dial into the CBP 548 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,880 one app, you file your asylum claim and no, I'm 549 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,760 approved immediately, look at me. Now, I'm an assyl ee, right, Okay. 550 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,000 If you go back to your home country for a case, 551 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,639 visit family, and then return to America as an assylie, 552 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,360 still you're not an asylum secret at that point, because 553 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,840 asylum means you're leaving your home country because you're going 554 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,480 to be persecuted, fear of death right. That's why you 555 00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,360 leave and seek asylum, and that's why you would leave 556 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,719 and seek asylum at the first possible border that you 557 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,519 could get to. 558 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,039 Speaker 1: Right. 559 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,039 Speaker 2: So, if you're like way down in South America, you 560 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,320 have like a dozen countries you're passing through before you 561 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,880 come to America to claim asylum. You could claim asylum 562 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,639 in any one of those other countries, but you're not. 563 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,440 You're going through all of those countries to get to America. 564 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:41,320 Then claiming asylum, you get it and then you're going 565 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,199 back home to the place that is so dangerous you 566 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,320 had to flee. You're going back home for like Christmas vacation. No, 567 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,599 anybody who goes back to their home country as an 568 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,320 asyle should not be permitted back in. I think that's 569 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,719 a pretty fair policy because it obviously proves that you're 570 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,679 not worried about persecution. Why would you go back there? Right, 571 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,800 And with this new ruling from the US District Judge Vince, 572 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:14,320 what this new ruling means is, now you've got all 573 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,400 of these people who may have been engaged in some 574 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,480 of the fraud going on in Minnesota and Seattle, apparently 575 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:26,320 in Oregon and these other states. We have your information 576 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,840 now and ICE can use that information. ICE is now 577 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,039 going to start cross referencing all of your medicaid provider services, 578 00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,840 like all of the billing, all of these outfits, these 579 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,480 front companies that you guys have set up. You gave 580 00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:45,400 all of your personal information to file the paperwork, and 581 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:52,280 now ICE has it. These are the ramifications of your decisions. 582 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,800 So once again I would recommend take the plane ticket, 583 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920 take the three thousand dollars stipend, and go back to 584 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,320 your own country, all right, that'll do it for this episode. 585 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400 Thank you so much for listening. 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