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<v Speaker 1>Nobody panic we're going to have a better football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Big Low Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 2>as we basically finish up this hour following UK women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will tell you right upfront this is pre

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<v Speaker 2>recorded as our majority of our shows, so not going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about tonight's basketball game. And as we speak,

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's playing volleyball, So if you want to keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on that, literally turn over to ESPN Plus and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where you'll see yours. Truly at least you'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>me working that one as well, So we're all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place. But yeah, we weren't quite sure when you

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<v Speaker 2>and UK women's basketball would end, so we got to

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<v Speaker 2>fill to the top of the hour and here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, why don't we talk some football first, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is the day after signing day and there are

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<v Speaker 2>still some names being tossed around out there locally and nationally.

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<v Speaker 2>But we will tell you that, of course, Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>was in a good mood. I always go back to

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<v Speaker 2>what Rich Brooks said on a signing day. One signing

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<v Speaker 2>day in particular, he was making his opening comment at

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<v Speaker 2>the podium and he stopped himself, and he had this

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<v Speaker 2>rye grin on his face. This is what I liked,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the many things I liked about Rich Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this dry sense of humor. But he stopped

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<v Speaker 2>and he said he heard himself saying, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>really happy with the group we got. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>delighted with our recruise. Then he stopped himself and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever heard a coach stand up and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we didn't have a very good year. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get the guys we wanted. Here the guys we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>And that just made me laugh out loud. And to

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<v Speaker 2>this day I think about that every time I hear

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<v Speaker 2>a coach on signing day. I don't care who it

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about how delighted they are they got exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what they wanted, or you know, if they didn't get somebody, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's worry about the guys we did get. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what, the guys you didn't get, they

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<v Speaker 2>may come back and kick your butt somedays. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>all the same. But that's all right, that's all part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And signing day again a new beginning. And

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<v Speaker 2>if ever there were a program and needed one this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Kentucky. That's why you heard the comments at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the show for Mark Stuufs saying, nobody panic,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be better, because that's what signing day

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<v Speaker 2>is all about. It's all about hope. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have hope, you don't got nothing. So

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<v Speaker 2>we still have to see how the portal's gonna play out,

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<v Speaker 2>swinging door in both directions, and you need a recall. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard many, at least up until I'm recording

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<v Speaker 2>this comments from Marx Stoops about Dane Key leaving, because

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<v Speaker 2>when he spoke to the media on signing Day, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't yet know that Dane was leaving. That announcement came

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<v Speaker 2>later in the day. And what's he going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he wishes him well, he's a great player.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish we still had him, I'm sure he'd say. But

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<v Speaker 2>if Dane Key is going to make a big jump

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<v Speaker 2>next season as a player and make himself more palatable

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<v Speaker 2>for the NFL, got to go someplace within the statablished

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<v Speaker 2>line and established QB and an established offense that will

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<v Speaker 2>feature him. Not that this one didn't feature in Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>tried to feature him, but really after that Old Miss game,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you recall that Old Miss game, those defenders

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<v Speaker 2>held him, interfered with him as much as they could

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<v Speaker 2>get away with, and that some they didn't get away with.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were some big penalties in that game against

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<v Speaker 2>defenders who tried to hinder or stop Dayane Key. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a touchdown pass he caught. He made a motion,

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<v Speaker 2>pointed or whatever to a d back. I see, I

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<v Speaker 2>caught it anyway, So every defense from that point forward, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they worried about Barry and Browny and they guarded him

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<v Speaker 2>over the top with bracket coverage and all that, but

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<v Speaker 2>they made it a point to body up on Dayne

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<v Speaker 2>Key and make sure somebody hit him all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's going to happen even in an established offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got a better shot if you're Dane Key

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<v Speaker 2>if you go someplace where they're not rebuilding, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what Kentucky's going to be doing, absolutely going to be doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but they will do it without a wide receivers coach.

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<v Speaker 2>At least, the guy they've had to kill shore to

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<v Speaker 2>buy all accounts did a nice job and he was

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<v Speaker 2>highly coveted by Stoops to the point where he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a big buyout into his contract, and he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>grinned Riley yesterday. There was the last question he took

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<v Speaker 2>at the news conference when he talked about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he tried to do the best he could when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to locking in shorts with a contract for

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<v Speaker 2>at least a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty pretty stern with my contract and with

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<v Speaker 1>my discussions a year ago, and that didn't didn't didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold up. So I got to keep on keep on

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<v Speaker 1>working that. You know. I was pretty demanding that I

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<v Speaker 1>needed at least a two year commitment out of that

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<v Speaker 1>and put a pretty large buyout on it. But some

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<v Speaker 1>schools weren't afraid. Does write a check, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Wish him luck. I do appreciate what he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a very talented young coach and I

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<v Speaker 1>wish him the best. Does you know kind of hurt

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<v Speaker 1>for our continuity that I am looking for. The great

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<v Speaker 1>thing is I have some young guys in that room

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<v Speaker 1>and gas and some guys that are pretty impressive that

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<v Speaker 1>can easily handle it for now, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the key for now. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to go find somebody, maybe not promote from within,

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<v Speaker 2>which is understandable. I think he needs an established experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Wide receivers coach gas generally go away and then come

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<v Speaker 2>back with more experience. Montavan Quizenberry I thought was just

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<v Speaker 2>a great get on this and he's the smallest guy

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<v Speaker 2>in this class five nine one seventy three. But everybody

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<v Speaker 2>I know who has seen this kid play raves about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I always listened to Steve mossmail colleague from w KYT,

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<v Speaker 2>who goes out and shoots a lot of high school

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<v Speaker 2>football games. He loves shooting high school football, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was raving about this kid early. He was raving about

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<v Speaker 2>Boyle County early. But this is a kid who could

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<v Speaker 2>be you never know, could be in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>mold of He won't be Wandale Robinson, but a similar

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<v Speaker 2>player slot receiver who can really make things happen and

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<v Speaker 2>become a best buddy of a quarterback, whether it's Cutter,

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<v Speaker 2>Bully or one of the future guys. They signed two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always interesting to me when they signed two quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>because it means likely someone will either change positions or transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to recruit competition to the position. Stone

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<v Speaker 2>Saunders QB six one two ten from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to Harrisburg more than once. And also Brennan Ward

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<v Speaker 2>from Columbus, Ohio six three to two oh five, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Stoops talked about both, starting with Saunders, who apparently

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<v Speaker 2>has thrown for a lot of yards up in Harrisburg.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thrown for so many yards he should break the record.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he plays Friday or Saturday. Friday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it'll probably break the all time yards in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he already has the touchdowns. And so he's

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<v Speaker 1>just got so much good film out there and just

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<v Speaker 1>just a ballplayer, you know, and so he's just a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it just doesn't take long to put on

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<v Speaker 1>the film. And just like the way he plays ball

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously throwing for that many yards and that many touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he could distribute to football. And then Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that we came in. He came into

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<v Speaker 1>camp and we watched in person, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect that I mean this in a bad well,

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<v Speaker 1>but the probably didn't play on as good as a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and but was impressive with a skill set

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<v Speaker 1>in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Fans always get revved up when quarterbacks signed. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to see him yesterday. They don't want to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years or two and a half years

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. A kids still got to finish his senior season,

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<v Speaker 2>but it takes a while with quarterbacks. Very few of

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<v Speaker 2>them come in as true freshman and get things done.

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<v Speaker 2>So lots to talk about with this class, including the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side of the football. And the Wildcats got a

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<v Speaker 2>kid out of Frankfurt. This might be the most intriguing

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<v Speaker 2>local pickup. Jvon Campbell played at Western Hill six five

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<v Speaker 2>two seventy that's right, high school senior six ' five

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<v Speaker 2>two seventy and edge rusher. They can plug right in

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, he'll probably see some action as

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<v Speaker 2>a freshman. Vince Merriw talked about how much he loved

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<v Speaker 2>getting this kid who can play, obviously, like most of him,

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<v Speaker 2>more than one sport.

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<v Speaker 3>He had legit committable offers to everybody in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>What everybody was offering him. I mean I had to

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<v Speaker 3>even pinch myself, like, man, I must be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>He turned down this one. What I really like about

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<v Speaker 3>that kid, And I know Stu and a brand like

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<v Speaker 3>about him. He's very powerful. My nephew John, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a small little story. So my nephew John, who lived

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<v Speaker 3>with me. This about six y nine. They played a

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<v Speaker 3>team in Frankfurt and I was like, y'all lost, and

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<v Speaker 3>they said, yeah, John kind of got you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of got beat up by this forward they had,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I didn't go to the game. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize that that was Campbell until he told me when

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<v Speaker 3>I started critics said, you know I played against sure

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<v Speaker 3>your nephew, And I said, oh, you the dude that

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<v Speaker 3>beat the crap out of him. I said, what you

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<v Speaker 3>do to me? Said, I gave him twenty twenty rebounds

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty five points, and so I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're pretty good. So I think this kid, he's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what you look for.

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<v Speaker 2>What sounds to me is though he fits into their

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<v Speaker 2>plans immediately. What are their plans? Well, that depends on

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<v Speaker 2>whose stays and goes. You know about Dame Key, you

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<v Speaker 2>know about Silver leaving some other guys who, really, with

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<v Speaker 2>all due respect, weren't playing that much. Not that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not good players, they just didn't want to wait. And

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops talked about that about the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day, kids would wait a red shirt

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<v Speaker 2>freshman maybe into their sophomore junior year year to play,

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<v Speaker 2>but not anymore. They don't really have to now, do they,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes those are the conversations you're having with guys

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe want to leave. It's like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the old days, we really you know, developed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're on track and you're going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really good player. But sometimes they just want to go

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<v Speaker 1>play right now, you know, And that's okay. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you know that are in our developmental phase,

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<v Speaker 1>but they want to go be the guy somewhere. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that is their decision, and that's just the changing landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're totally okay with that. You know, Continuity is

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<v Speaker 1>very important, but in today's world, you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do the best you can year to year. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, but we didn't have a very good year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty pretty excited about change, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. We need we need some positive change.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why this could be the most important and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it will be. Given the fact that the portal's

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops and his tenure here at Kentucky. But keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind there's a lot of money floating around out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It could draw some people away. If you look at

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<v Speaker 2>of course on signing day, the rich kid Richard Literally

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<v Speaker 2>much he helped Oregon earn the status of big winner in

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<v Speaker 2>the early signing period. He helped Oregon flip a four

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<v Speaker 2>hold off Florida when it came after a five star receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>and money talks, there's no question about that. I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the more interesting stories about a kid flipping

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee quarterback. His brother is a big time QB and

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Madden. He flipped from Ucla to Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>without ever visiting Arkansas. And if you think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>because he likes to play in the SEC and play

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<v Speaker 2>for Bobby Petrino in his offense, come on, there's money

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<v Speaker 2>which I had forgotten about, and they really liked him.

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<v Speaker 2>But he may be leaving UCLA. But the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta think they got a better offer financially, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're from California to flip from UCLA to Arkansas. So

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<v Speaker 2>lots of that going on, no surprise. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>in the time between us recording this and you hearing it,

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<v Speaker 2>some folks have flipped already. So we'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 2>that tomorrow right here on the Big Blue Sider. Up next,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk Kentucky basketball. Kat's already on their way to Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>may already be there. More to come here on six

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Gabriel with you're wrapping up this abbreviated edition following

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<v Speaker 2>UK women's basketball, and as I mentioned earlier, we pre record,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have no idea if the Wildcats want or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I'm busy doing volleyball. You can check it

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<v Speaker 2>out on ESPN Plus. As the Wildcats are playing Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>State the opening round to the nca Tournament, hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>take on the winner of Minnesota and Western Kentucky in

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<v Speaker 2>the lexingon sub regional Saturday night, Kentucky at Gonzaga technically

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<v Speaker 2>in Seattle, not on the Gonzaga home court, but it

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<v Speaker 2>should be an extremely pro Zag's crowd. It'll be another

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<v Speaker 2>tough one for Mark Pope's Wildcats. They did not handle

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson very well. Let the Tigers push them around a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard him on the Coaches Show last night. You

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<v Speaker 2>might not have heard this comment from him though, on

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<v Speaker 2>the postgame show with Tom Leach. It was in the

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<v Speaker 2>wee hours following that loss to Clemson down there in

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<v Speaker 2>Little John Arena, as Pope talked about the fact that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was proud of the way his team fought back

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<v Speaker 2>after falling behind, but one of the biggest problems was

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<v Speaker 2>at least defensive and offense as well. They kind of

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned their their core principles.

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<v Speaker 4>Proud of our guys fight, proud of their competitive nature

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<v Speaker 4>and their together So I'm proud of all those things.

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<v Speaker 4>We just we just had to learn to play better

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<v Speaker 4>through that. What things do they need to learn from

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<v Speaker 4>this experience? Yeah, we started out, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive end, we had some real breakdowns because we were

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<v Speaker 4>kind of over.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing our hand.

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<v Speaker 4>And be specific with that, there were sometimes where, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we we completely bailed on some first things, first and downs.

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<v Speaker 4>There's sometimes where we were pushed so far out that

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<v Speaker 4>we gave up easy rifle cuts and it was just

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<v Speaker 4>us almost being overly aggressive, not kind of trusting our

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<v Speaker 4>defensive principles to stay.

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<v Speaker 3>In the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and then I felt like offensively we spent

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of time, especially in the second half, but

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<v Speaker 4>also a bunch of moves of the first half we

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<v Speaker 4>were everybody was so eager to try and fix things

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<v Speaker 4>for their team on their own, and we rarely were

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<v Speaker 4>in spaces where we actually looked like us trusting how

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<v Speaker 4>we play and leaning into how we played. Fort guys

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<v Speaker 4>leading to each other to great job leaning into how

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost as though they were averted, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're playing a little bit of a different

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<v Speaker 2>style or maybe a lot different compared to where they

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<v Speaker 2>used to be, but they just accorded to Pope, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really stick to what they should have been doing, what

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<v Speaker 2>they know to be doing. And I think we saw

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<v Speaker 2>that in early when Kentucky had a lead and was

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<v Speaker 2>playing well. You saw the cuts and you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>efficient offense sometimes that Pope used the term again last night,

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful offense they run. I don't think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>self serving comment either. He didn't invent this offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>he embraced it, and Kentucky did too as a team

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<v Speaker 2>for the first few games, including the win over Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in the second half, Wildcats got back to

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<v Speaker 2>what was good to them and that's why they were

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<v Speaker 2>able to upend the Blue Devils. But Clemson just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of beat on them and I think frustrated Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of took the Wildcats out of what they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. So now they got to learn to be

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<v Speaker 2>more physical. But I think the other thing too is

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<v Speaker 2>Butler's got to stay in the ballgame. La Mott. Butler

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<v Speaker 2>is such a key and you knew this going in,

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<v Speaker 2>but now if you don't know it distinctly, you know

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<v Speaker 2>it now. They got to have him on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible. And of course he had the

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<v Speaker 2>foul trouble and he had the ankle injury. It took

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<v Speaker 2>him out for a little while. And they're just not

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<v Speaker 2>the same, are they. He ended up playing short of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen minutes. He still was six and nine. He had

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen points, he had five assists, he only had two turnovers,

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<v Speaker 2>a block and a steal. So yeah, they need him

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor for at least two thirds of the

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<v Speaker 2>game at least, So we'll see if that plays out

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night. Some of the other highlights from the acc

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<v Speaker 2>SEC Challenge. The athletic was calling it a huge upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it really was because it was at Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>but Duke beat Auburn eighty four to seventy eight. Auburn

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<v Speaker 2>played well, fell behind, came back, took a late lead,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't hang on to it. Cooper flag went for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two and eleven. But interestingly they called it the signature

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<v Speaker 2>win for the Blue Devil so far, And yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>probably was because the Blue Devils lost to Kentucky. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger upset and this was not part of acc SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Alabama destroyed North Carolina, Creighton crushed Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six, the sixty three first loss for Kansas and

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<v Speaker 2>Creyton's got a good ball club. But who saw that coming?

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<v Speaker 2>Not I no way about that. Central Florida has made

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<v Speaker 2>inquiries back to college football about Lincoln Riley they put

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<v Speaker 2>out a fielder put out of calls. Did something to somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>either an agent or the school about Lincoln Riley at

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<v Speaker 2>Southern col makes about ten million a year. Gus Malzon

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<v Speaker 2>left he was making about four million to go be

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<v Speaker 2>the OC at Florida State. And so now UCF, which

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<v Speaker 2>is flirted, it's respectable, but florted with more relevance in

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<v Speaker 2>college football. They want to go get him, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>under fire. He's catching flak at USC. Do you make

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<v Speaker 2>that move? As the athletic describes that, he's in a

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<v Speaker 2>rut at USC where his teams have regressed since he

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<v Speaker 2>got there. He's expressed no interest in this kind of move,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to think, especially if he had to

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<v Speaker 2>take a significant pay cut. Keep in mind, you CF

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<v Speaker 2>that's in Orlando. That's one of the biggest schools in America.

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<v Speaker 2>There are more than fifty thousand students. That city is

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<v Speaker 2>growing so fast thanks to Disney, of course, but you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to think it's athletics are going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>step forward fairly significantly whenever it can, because they got

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<v Speaker 2>money to throw around. Yeah, they're right there in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of Miami and Florida and FSU and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other schools in that state. Would Lincoln Riley come

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<v Speaker 2>back across the country, all the way from the west

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<v Speaker 2>coast to the east. I would say no, at least

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<v Speaker 2>not right now. Unless they can back up the brinks

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<v Speaker 2>truck that's been known to happen. That's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us. That's it. Good night from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hey,
