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Speaker 1: Made a decision of peace. Sunny sun on. I had

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a vision night. So what's up, everybody, welcome, I'm for

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guring out loud. Hi, it's a beautiful day. It really

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is little, chilly little. It was chilly this weekend. I

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had friends come to town, and it was beautiful all the

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days leading up to when they came, and then the

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one day that we were out and about hanging out together,

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it was freezing and cold and windy. And then as

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soon as they left, the sun's out, Clouds is out,

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clouds is out.

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Speaker 2: Who came to visit.

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Speaker 1: Mike and his girlfriend? Oh, Christie, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He has a girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: He's had girlfriend for a while. Oh okay, they're really cute.

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They're really sweet, and uh he had work to do

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the over in La this weekend. So they drove out

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and then we went out to We just walked around

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like Beverly Hills, Like, what is there to do? Any

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you know what we're gonna do? Go to Universal Studios exactly,

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Disteland or the beaches, you know, like everything's closed. I

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guess I don't know. The roads are closed to the beach. Oh,

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but it was freezing, so you can't go to the beach.

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So they were like, you know, she wanted to go

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see Beverly Hills. She lives in Phoenix. So we went

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and walked around Beverly Hills. It was nice, we had

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a good time.

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Speaker 2: It's nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. Nice.

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Speaker 2: The thing is when people are coming from out of town.

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Now I've lived in la Let's see. I lived here

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when I was a kid, from like two to twelve.

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Then I was then from like eighteen on to now

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in my fifties, and I still could not tell you,

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like what to do if you're in town. Like whenever

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people are like what should we do? What's the I'm

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always like, I have no idea. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: My cousin's from Cleveland. They would come out every summer

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and my mom and dad and my brothers would take

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them to a taping of like Happy Days. Yes, of

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course I think of like you know some show TV

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show like Price. They always wanted to do the prices right,

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But I always had to stay home because I was

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too young. Because they were old enough to sit in

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studio audience. I was like ten, so I couldn't. I

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was like upset, But yeah, that's what they would do.

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Go go watch shows, Go look at the Walk of

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Fame in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: True. Yes, that's a very la thing to do. I

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wonder now if there are as many tapings, because there

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really are, I know, many sitcoms now. Everything's streaming now.

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Speaker 1: I think people now want to go see Jimmy Kimmel

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live and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, true, that's a really hard ticket to get them. Yeah,

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you don't just get that, Like you don't go to

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Venice Beach and have somebody handing out Jimmy Kimmel tickets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. They don't need you right.

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Speaker 2: Now, right, same as like I tried to get when

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we were in New York. I tried to get tickets

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to SNL and I could not.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's tough ticket. Yeah. Did you watch the

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Oscars last night? I did not? Yeah, did you I

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skimmed through him this morning.

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Speaker 2: I watched some of the monologue.

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Speaker 1: I did watch his monologue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was very underwhelming.

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Speaker 1: What about you? I think he did. I think he

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did a pretty good job. He had some singers, But yeah,

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I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I liked the announcement they made when he was coming

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out and they said four time Oscar watcher.

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Speaker 1: That was hilarious. I caught that, but.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't him, right. I thought he was actually a

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good performer, but I didn't think the jokes were great.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a little slow going. And then

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I think he got a little more. I don't know

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if it was comfortable or what, but then I thought

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maybe God his groove. I didn't care about the number

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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't get that far?

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I watched like the first ten minutes of the monologue,

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and I think it was eighteen minutes long. So I

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didn't get to the thing right.

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Speaker 1: And but I did watch The Substance. Have you seen

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that movie?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't recommend watching it while you're eating,

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that's for sure. It's like ordered food. I watched The

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Substance and I was like, oh, I had a pause

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it is gory, Kaylin, have you seen it? All right?

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It is gory? Is I didn't know it was gory.

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Speaker 3: Nah?

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Speaker 1: Eh, I wouldn't call it a horror movie. Body orror

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is that what they call it?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Creatures out ka? Yeah, okay, yeah, like people like humans

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into things. I don't know. It was. It was pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: I heard the ending is really bad.

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Speaker 1: The ending. Yeah, well I can't. I don't want to

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talk about it. I want you guys to see it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well I haven't seen I don't think any of

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the movies that was the NOVITD. I don't think I've

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seen one of them. No, not even Wicked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that. Kept meaning to, but like,

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who has time to Who's going to the movies?

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Speaker 2: It was, it's way too hard these people go to

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the movies. Do people go to the movies?

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Speaker 1: My kids do? I don't. I haven't gone to the

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movies in a long time. I mean, i've seen Wicked

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on stage, you know, I've taken my kids to see

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it the same, But I haven't seen the movie. And

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then I thought, oh, i'll watch it when it comes

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out on TV at home. But I'm like, I don't

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have three hours to sit there and watch Wicked. Like

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I I get the gist. I know what happens the same.

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I'm sure. I'm very tell Did you know I watched

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them kick off the show. They did an amazing number

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together Arianna and Cynthia. Cynthia amazing, I mean just incredible talents.

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Just I got you got the chills. One of the

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best speeches, though, was Kieran Culkin's speech, which is always

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he was great, and he was talking to his wife.

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to tell the story. He goes, when I won succession.

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and he said, you remember you said if I won,

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if I won an Emmy, you would give me another kid,

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kid number three. And she's like, that's right, I did

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say that, and he goes. He goes, but what I

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really want is kid number four, and she goes, well,

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when you get an Oscar, I'll give you kid number four.

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And he said that, and when he said that, the

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whole place erupted when he when he said, well, when

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I when you when you get an Oscar, because then

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it was like oh and she's like, he goes, and

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I never brought it up again, and he's like, do

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you remember, and she's like, I totally remember. He was

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like she was saying it him from the stage. Yeah.

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That that. Now she's got to get busy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's really he's a.

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Speaker 1: Great speed Yeah yeah, yeah that. He never brought it

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up again. And here he's on stage.

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Speaker 2: Did the music start playing him off?

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Speaker 1: Uh not yet. No, he wrapped it up in time.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. That's the only thing I

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watched after that. I tuned out What's the Beginning.

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Speaker 2: I was at a sort of a dinner party. I

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was at a very big gathering of parents who have

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something in common, we don't even need to say what,

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at somebody's house, and it seemed to take precedence.

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Speaker 1: Over the Oscar the Oscars.

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Speaker 2: But it was funny because right before I left for

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this thing, I was like, oh, and I am a

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say the Oscars. And I went and looked at what's

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nominated and I was like, and I haven't seen one

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single one of these movies, not one that one, not

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any movie that was in the in the contender spot, yeah,

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couldn't even tell you. I was like, the brutalist, don't

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know what it's about. And I'm not bragging at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I'm too cool to like No,

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it's bad. No, everybody, I know so many people I know.

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I went to dinner with my girlfriend Melissa for her

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birthday a couple of days ago, and we were talking

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about it not seeing one movie. Yeah, and her husband's

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a writer. Like nothing, nobody. I don't have any friends

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that have seen any of those movies.

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Speaker 2: And I used to think, you know, when the kids

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were young, I was like, well, this is the problem.

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to the movies. What's my excuse now? I mean, I

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have seventeen year olds and a kid at college. Like

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I could certainly go to the movies every night if

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I wanted to. Yeah, First of all, I'm tired so so.

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with me. Third of all, I just like nothing ever

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sound I never hear of it. And also, furthermore, we

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know they're we know we're going to be able to

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watch them on TV.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: So like it always seems like do I want to

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spend twenty dollars for a movie plus another twenty dollars

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for some popcorn right and sit in the theater or

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do I want to wait and spend no money and

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly, that's my feeling. My feeling too, is I

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just wait and see. Like if people go, oh, my god,

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this movie you gotta see. If it starts getting buzz

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and people are like, you got to see this movie,

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then I'll I'll go to a theater and watch it.

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But if I don'm not hearing anything, I'm not going anywhere. Right,

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that's seeking it out, right, am I? Kaylin?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? So how is your week?

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Speaker 1: My leak was good? Like I said, it was my

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friend Melissa's birthday. We took her out for her birthday,

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went out with uh, Mike and Christie over the weekend,

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and then, uh, where'd you go out for Melissa's birthday?

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We went to this place called Hatchet Hatchet something, Hatchet Club, Okay,

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hatchet something, And I thought, like Suzanne picked it for

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because it was gonna be like one of those dates

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in The Bachelor where they're throwing the hatchet. Oh that's

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what I thought it. No, it wasn't. It's like this

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fancy schmancy restaurant in like Century City, because we try

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to pick a place that's central between me and her

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and Melissa, and it was Melissa's birthday. But like, the

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food was delicious, but they were really snooty at the restaurant. Oh,

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like week, Suzanne and I drove together. Melissa was already there.

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Speaker 2: We get there, but Suzanne doesn't live anywhere she lives.

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Speaker 1: She lives more in Century City. She lives in with

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her boy. She moved in with her boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Right, So wait, so did you drive to her house?

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Speaker 1: I drove to her house okay, and we went together okay.

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The lady like stopped us. We're like, they're like, okay,

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now we can see you at your table. Go get

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your friend. So I go get my friend. I got

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stopped twice. Can I help you? Can I help you?

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Like my friends sitting at the bar? You know, right,

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I can't just walk up to the bar and you know,

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like you have to have reservations one of those kind

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of places. Oh boy, but the food was delicious, I

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mean really good.

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Speaker 2: But did you have to pick up the check?

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Speaker 1: We split it?

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Speaker 2: Oh you did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Because it was Melissa's bird well, Susanna and I

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right right right, it was Melissa's birthday. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would feel like you would be the type of

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friend where they would just look to you like you

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got it usually I am so was there a moment

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Speaker 1: Now? But when I went out with Mike and Christie,

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I paid okay dinner, which was fine, went to sushi.

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Oh yeah, yeah, how was your week?

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Speaker 2: It was fine? You know what I was thinking about

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you this week because I was like.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 2: You would think when you have juniors in high school

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that things would have slowed way down in terms of childcare.

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But some stuff, some stuff does slow down. But I

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feel like I've been parenting harder than ever.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched Greece yet?

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Speaker 2: I have not watched feel I not watched Greece. I

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just feel like there is a constant And you would

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remember this because junior year is a suck year as

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far as and junior year is when Natalia got a

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concussion and missed a bunch of school. And I don't

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know if Sunny was struggling. I feel like he was

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struggling a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has uti thing is bladder.

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Speaker 2: Was that junior year or senior year?

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in the summer in between. It started this summer before

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senior year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just a lot of pressure and my

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kids are in a lot of stuff. Okay, here's the thing.

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Xander is in a lot of activities. I would I

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feel like he's over scheduled, but it has nothing to

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do with me. It's all him. A new thing will

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come up at school and he'll be like, oh, by

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the way, I need you to sign this that that

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you're okay with me doing this for numerous hours a week.

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And I'm like, okay, are you sure you want to

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be doing that? Because you're also because this weekend coming up,

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Xander has I'm so excited. This is more for me

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than for him. But speech and debate the state qualifier,

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Oh I'm excited for that too, which don't forget that

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the last speech and debate one he didn't even make

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it to the finals in the Okay, so he does

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two categories. He does original oratory, which is the big

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one that would could qualify him for state, and then

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he was doing duo improv, so he got second place

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in duo improv, but that event you can't he won't

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do at the state qualifiers. And original oratory, which is

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his main one, he didn't even get into the finals

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last time. The first time he had second place, So

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my point is it's a crapshoot, what's going to happen?

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But I Am going to have a great time.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's all that can right.

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Speaker 2: So that's Friday after school until the evening and then

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all day Saturday. Meanwhile, he's in this this Thespian club,

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which also takes up a bunch of time, and he's

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had to do stuff on weekends and go make movies

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with people. Then he's in another thing called making Movies

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that Matter that he had to apply to be in

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that they picked a certain amount of kids. I know,

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he's doing like so many things, but meanwhile he also

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has like ap classes, so he now he's stressed out

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all the time. And part of me is like, okay,

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but you chose to take on all these extra things,

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and he's like, yeah, I know, I just don't have

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any downtime, right, But if he likes it, I mean, no,

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I know, but I'm just saying it's like it's also

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because he doesn't have his driver's license, there's a lot

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I have to take him everywhere. Meanwhile, Sadie doesn't have

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a lot of stuff going on, although she's in Greece,

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but she also is very overwhelmed by academics. Yes, right,

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so it's this, It's this I feel John and I

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were just talking about this yesterday ago. I feel like

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it's like whack the mole. LB had like an emotional

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situation going on from college called me, wanted to come

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home for a night, had to like, had so many

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other things, and was driving kids places. And then this

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is why I don't go to the fucking movies.

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Speaker 1: Right right, okay, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, any know, No,

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it's a lot I remember, you know, like when they

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are doing their different things. One of them's got the volleyball,

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the other one's going to got to do his podcast

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that you drive. When you have to drive them everywhere,

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that's the thing that kind of sucks at that age.

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And then especially if their schools not close by beause

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it's not close. Your school's not close by your kids, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it's not far. It's like twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, like my kids, they went to school so

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they could just if there was a thing after school

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they wanted to go to, they could just walk there

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after school. But yeah, it's just in that in eleventh

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grade too, is tough.

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Speaker 2: It's really tough.

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Speaker 1: It's the hard year. Yeah, that you gotta you know,

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got to focus on whatever, but like getting ready for

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college and stuff like that. You know, I was talking

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to Melissa. Her son's not quite there yet. He's in

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tenth grade, but they're gonna start looking, you know, they

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have to start thinking about that. Then she's got a

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ten year old, so she's got a kid. It's a sophomore, right.

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Then she's got a tenth grader and now a tenth

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and a ten year old, so she's got a wide range. Yeah,

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she's not slowing down anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my brother and sister in law have a

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fourteen year old and a ten year old, and I'm like,

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oh wait, that is such a world of difference they do.

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I didn't realize they were that far apart. Yeah, well

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their kids are only four years apart.

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Speaker 1: Sounds a lot though, at fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because fourteen because her their oldest, is three years

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younger than my youngest. And then they four years later

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they had another one. But yeah, it does seem so

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crazy that they have young right, the kids are young, right, right,

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And then it just it's so slow at the beginning,

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and You're like, God, that seems like it took a

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long time to get to yeah, ten, but then between

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ten and like freaking twenty.

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Speaker 1: Right, it boom, Yeah, it kicks in high gear. Get ready, Galen,

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my god, because you're.

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Speaker 3: Some timely, not that much thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have nineteen year olds in a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just fly It flew by. It's March. Your

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kid's birthday is in June. Yeah, they're going to be nineteen.

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I know, I know, it's crazy. I was when they

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turn eighteen. Was when I was like, wow, I'm like, oh,

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all right, they're nineteen. They just but eighteen. I was like,

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that's just that's crazy. It just flew by. I felt

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like they were ten years old, not that long ago.

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Albie's going to be twenty one, see, and then when

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they hit the twenties. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean just imagine, like when we started this, I

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had babies.

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Speaker 1: I know, my kids were babies. Yeah, they were three, right,

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the twins.

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Speaker 2: They were two and a half or three something like that.

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I think LB was like five, right, Yeah. Because I

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got sober when LB was four and a half, and

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I'd been sober for a while before.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: A little while before. I was a guest on the

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parent experiment with you and Teresa right because we talked

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about me being sober, so that would have had to

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be And then so she Alby was probably.

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Speaker 1: Like five, Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: You know what else is crazy how much we love Quins.

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Speaker 1: We love Quince.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy, you know what the Quince has crazy deals,

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crazy deals, Yes, high quality items that we love that

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we talk about all the time, like the Mangolian Mongolian

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Kashmir sweaters that they have. Kane's wearing Quints right now.

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Aren't those pants?

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Speaker 3: Aren't those These are the performance sweatpants, not the ones

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that I got originally from Quints. I like those ones

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so much that I went and I was like, you

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know what, I'm getting another one for me, and I

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went and bought these ones. And those are the two

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sweatpants that I've been living in ever since it got

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cold again.

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Speaker 2: I literally have stuff in my Quint's cart as we speak,

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and I'm just deciding. You know how you start like

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loading up your cart and then you just decide like, Okay,

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I'm gonna put a couple things back, but I don't

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know what yet, because yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: What I've been doing the thing that we love about

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So yeah, uh, what were we talking about? Well, we

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were talking about how time flies.

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Speaker 2: It really really does. Yeah, we were talking about how LB.

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When we started, LB was about five, so the twins

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must have been two.

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Speaker 1: Now the twins were I think like five. I think

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they were five. No, absolutely not no, no, because yours

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were gonna build LB was five.

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Speaker 2: LB was five, and the twins were probably two. I

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got sober when the twins were eighteen. Your twins, my twins,

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Your my twins were like five five? Yes, okay, well

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wait for a.

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Speaker 3: Little Sonny coming into the studio with his.

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Speaker 1: Ball, playing his little ball. I know, I think he

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was doing like fantasy football back then too, when he

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was like seven. Wow, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know we talk about this a lot,

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but I just really remember coming in and just being

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so exhausted and just going I can't, like I can't

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do it, and you're like, it's gonna get better, I promise.

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But your twins that I was using his inspiration because

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the Yardstick were also pretty young if you think about it, Yeah,

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they were. They were Yeah, they were like four or five. Yeah,

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just going to I'll never forget when I was like

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taking them to kindergarten and I was like, so I

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had to make them lunch every single day and then

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have them just to return it at night. I remember

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getting so mad I them lunch and they would just

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come home with the sandwich and like, well, what did

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you eat?

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Speaker 1: My friends? Is food? Like they would never eat their food.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Drive member when they had rules.

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Speaker 2: And maybe Kaylin's dealing with this now, where the kids

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were not allowed to share food because they didn't want

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I think they didn't want like maybe allergy issues too,

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but they also didn't want kids like giving away their

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healthy food, Like if you send them with an apple,

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then they need to keep it in their lunch box

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to send it home. They're not allowed to throw it

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away or like you need to be able to see

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and shame them.

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Speaker 1: You're not eating their app exactly.

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Speaker 2: But remember we would talk about this because I would

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send the same apple to school every day because you

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don't want to be like food shamed by the teachers

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or the lunch monitors. So you'd send the But it

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was like a Mexican standoff with the apples, because I'd

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be like, really, you're really you're not gonna eat it,

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You're gonna send it, I'm gonna get it at home again. Well,

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I'm gonna put it in the gragerator overnight and send

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it back in your lunch tomorrow. And it would just

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go back.

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Speaker 1: Till one of us threw it out. Yeah. I had

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that with oranges too, Yeah, or what I think they

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would just he just hated lunch. Just drove me nuts

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because I never know what to pack for them, and

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they would come first, they would say they want it,

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then they would like it, then they didn't like it

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eating it anymore. Whatever it was, It just you don't

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cook it. You don't make your kids lunch. Who does

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Amy the default parent. He's like, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: For one moment in time, I was like, oh, maybe

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they just get lunch at school. And then I was like, no,

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Amy makes it. I don't thinks. Probably Stunt's never packed

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a lunch for the kids, not one time in all

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these years.

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00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,599
Speaker 3: I have packed lunches before, I will say that, but

471
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:49,519
not recently.

472
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you wouldn't know what to pack, that's the thing.

473
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720
It's not like John would completely refuse, but he wouldn't

474
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:59,160
know what they eat. I mean when they were little, right,

475
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,279
he fine with getting them a meal. Now I'm not saying,

476
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:05,960
but I'm just saying. Elbie was so specific when she

477
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:12,839
was in like preschool into early elementary school. She would

478
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:16,279
only eat a bagel and cream cheese and cream cheese.

479
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

480
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,599
Speaker 2: Because remember people would say to us, well, like, I

481
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:22,440
don't know, my kid's a picky eater. And I was like, girl,

482
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,279
Elbie ate a bagel and cream cheese three meals a

483
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,079
day for many years and she's fine, right, but that

484
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,319
or a peanut butter sandwich, no jelly.

485
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,319
Speaker 1: She hated jelly. She was so picky.

486
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: And then when they didn't like you to send peanut

487
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,519
butter to school, which I understand, but she would not

488
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440
eat like nut butter. It had to be peanut butter

489
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,920
right right. She was like, what is this crap you're

490
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,559
giving me. I tried to do the sun sun butter

491
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,000
or whatever, and she was like, no, that's disgusting. So

492
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,200
I was like, well, I guess just a bait. Now

493
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,960
we're down to just a bagel of cean cheese.

494
00:25:58,039 --> 00:25:59,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. While you were talking, I

495
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,599
just remembered, like I had a friend whose daughter would

496
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:08,359
only eat whatever. She would not make her eat, like

497
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680
if she wanted to eat a bowl of cereal before bed,

498
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640
she let her have a bull and I remember not

499
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,480
seeing her for a while. Then I saw her and

500
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,400
I could see she lost a lot of weight, like

501
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,359
she looked like skin and bones, even though she kind

502
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,160
of was that. You know, some kids are just thin,

503
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,240
naturally thin. She had that physique, but she was even

504
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480
more so that Like after I haven't seen her for

505
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,559
a while, and it's like, oh, this is what happens

506
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,480
when you let your kid eat whatever you want. Then

507
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,200
I remember we were talking about the Ruby Frankie story

508
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,359
and how they were showing his shoulder blades like because

509
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,319
they these kids were starved and malnourished, and we were

510
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,839
talking about the Ruby Frankie story. We were going to

511
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,000
talk about Oh my god. Okay, so I watched.

512
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,279
Speaker 2: Somebody on our Facebook group was like, hey, the Ruby

513
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:03,000
Frankie stories out, be careful full, it's like upsetting. John

514
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,119
wanted to watch it, and I was like, John, you

515
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,039
don't like stuff like that, Like this is going to

516
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,640
be upsetting, and he was like, no, I'm kind of interested.

517
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,839
It kind of hits John's sweet's body loves cult stuff.

518
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,359
And what I realized when I watched the documentary was

519
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
it's basically the same story as the.

520
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Lori Valo story.

521
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: Remember that Mommy Day it is. It's the same thing.

522
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,279
It just the kids didn't get killed, but they would have.

523
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,559
They were because the same thing. The mom was saying

524
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:35,799
that they're the zombies. Their zombies have taken over their

525
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,680
bodies there there, and she needs to get rid of this.

526
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,720
It's Lorisvelle and it's Mormonism, it's the crazy, it's the cult.

527
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,160
It's the same exact thing with Lori Valo. She got

528
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,519
taken in by like a guy, right, and then he

529
00:27:53,799 --> 00:28:00,119
was like yes, brainwashing her and like teaching and and

530
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,599
running like a little cult. Okay, well the same thing

531
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,200
with freakin' uh Ruby and the woman.

532
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, totally totally the same thing.

533
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: I this had gone on any longer, those kids would

534
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,119
have been dead.

535
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: Well, weren't they planning? They didn't say it in this special,

536
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,720
but I remember watching a nightline they talked of those

537
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,680
two talked about they were gonna move or they were

538
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,880
gonna get land in the middle of the desert and

539
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,359
basically drop the kids off there and let them just

540
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,400
leave them in a desert. Oh do you remember yere

541
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:35,920
said something about that. Yes, but they didn't talk about

542
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,920
it in this documentary that we were talking about, But

543
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,920
they did in like this nightline special I watched, right, Yeah, I.

544
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,799
Speaker 2: Was watching this Ruby Frankie thing, and it is so

545
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,920
freaking disturbing.

546
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 1: It is.

547
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:51,559
Speaker 2: When do you think of the fact that Okay, first

548
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:54,720
of all, I think I might be the most mad

549
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,720
at the dad. Yes, yeah, And you can say, oh

550
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:02,640
you want like, well he was he was brainwashed, But no,

551
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,720
he was just a freaking pussy.

552
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: Oh.

553
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I just want my wife's approval. I just want my

554
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,119
wife's approval. I just need her validation so bad. I

555
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,160
realized that he's admitting that that sucks. But when they

556
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,680
would ask him if he feels guilty, there would be

557
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:24,799
such long pauses before he'd be like, yeah, absolutely, But

558
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:28,359
I just really wanted her approval. That's all I wanted.

559
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Was her love. So right, it's like I can't relate

560
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400
to somebody because I've never had a guy in my

561
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,599
life that would bend over backwards just for my love

562
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,440
like that. To me, it's just insane. But I don't know,

563
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400
like who knows where he was coming from. The thing

564
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,079
that drove me nuts is the video of Jody Hildebrant

565
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,799
having a so called exorcism like like that like talking

566
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:58,000
and talks, Oh my god, and it's like cringe. It

567
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:02,000
was so cringe, and that they believed her. She's like

568
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,759
and they're like putting their hand on her head and stuff.

569
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:13,279
Obviously she's faking it as fuck, like she's told faking

570
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,680
it and they're buying it. And then they're like kicking

571
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,039
their kids out one by one because because she's telling

572
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:25,200
them that your son is watching pornography, so therefore he

573
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
needs to go, and you know, like unbelievable.

574
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:32,759
Speaker 2: Also, the older son who we love looks he looks

575
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,920
like a little like teen heart throw. Yeah, he looks

576
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,519
like a boy band, Like he's gonna be in a

577
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:37,039
boy band.

578
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: But even he was like, I don't know.

579
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: My mom was like really great and like I just

580
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680
really like Jody and she was like giving me these

581
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,039
really good teachings. And I mean, I feel like he's

582
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,480
still a little brainwashed.

583
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,039
Speaker 1: She was brainwashed by Jodi.

584
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's still somewhere in his mind, Like,

585
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,039
I don't know. My mom was like a pretty good mom.

586
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,680
It's like do you not see your siblings? I mean,

587
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,240
that was the saddest thing when they when the police

588
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,960
went into the house and found the kid and the

589
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,599
little girl who was like sitting in that like room, yes,

590
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720
by herself, and so scared and you know.

591
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I mean I saw, like I remember,

592
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:21,480
they would flash her. They found her journals that she wrote,

593
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,359
you know, and they would flash it on the screen.

594
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720
I was I would I would pause it and read it,

595
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,519
you know. And there was one where she said that

596
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,519
she would make him she kept hitting him in the

597
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:36,359
back with a cactus proder. What is a cactus prouder? Anyway,

598
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,960
just sounds like a child abuse tool, doesn't it, Like, yeah,

599
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,039
a cactus proder. Was it a cattle prod? No, it's

600
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:47,039
a cactus proder? It was, it said, I don't know.

601
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,279
And then then that she would make him stand in

602
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:54,000
the sun in the heat and he would cry and

603
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,039
she would just be like that.

604
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Jump on a trampoline, yeah, eight hours?

605
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight, yeah, and you didn't want to do And

606
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,559
that's Satan talking. And I mean it was just like.

607
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,119
Speaker 2: Well, she said they were zombies. She said both those

608
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,680
the little the young kids were zombies because she was,

609
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,079
which isn't exactly what Lari Vallo said, right, because she

610
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,160
listened to Jody, but she was already like she was

611
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,920
already she was already abusive because they showed they had

612
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,279
all that those out what do you call it? Out

613
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,519
takes outtakes of the of her, of her vlog where

614
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,160
she was just being a total bitch kid. That was

615
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
before she ever met Jody.

616
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,759
Speaker 1: Right, she would like, go stop it right, knife, you're

617
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:45,240
gonna be on camera. Okay, Hi, it's mebody. She would

618
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:48,440
torture her kids just to like do you like she like,

619
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,200
talk nice? Oh, we're talking about your middle name? How

620
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,920
did you get your middle name? He's like, I don't

621
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,000
want to talk right now. I don't feel like talking.

622
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Do you want to go to your room now? Put

623
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,799
a smile on your face. How'd you get your middle name?

624
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,160
It's so fake? Oh my god. I love that they

625
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400
have video of all that shit and it's.

626
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,279
Speaker 2: Doc Remember when they when that thing came out about

627
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:12,119
Kate Goslin where the kid was what was thirsty and

628
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,400
wanting water and then she was like, no, stop it

629
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,440
right now, you're you're not getting any water.

630
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:18,119
Speaker 1: Shut up.

631
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,319
Speaker 2: And then you see her breach down, take her water

632
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,640
bottle and take a sip.

633
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 1: Of her water, and I can't remember that.

634
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,039
Speaker 2: It went totally viral, like she was also another fucking

635
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:29,000
monster Kate.

636
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, what's with these moms? I could never

637
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,119
I would you would have to like make me. I

638
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,400
would jump outside instead of having my kid do it.

639
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,240
I would do anything to not have my kid jump

640
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160
in the heat like that. Like how does she let

641
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,799
her kid do that? Like, I mean even just the

642
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,799
fact that, uh, you know, the school called and her

643
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,119
five year old forgot to pack her lunch, so she

644
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,000
told them, don't give her any food. Let her learn

645
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,359
her listen, she was five and I would be fumbling

646
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,920
over backwards. God, and killing ourselves to get to the

647
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,800
school on time, drop off that lunch. Like, I mean,

648
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,840
we would do anything to kids, star, I mean, do

649
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,280
you imagine we're completely the the the polar opposite, That's

650
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,760
what I mean. Like we would be doing jumping jacks

651
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,480
in the heat somebody made us have to do like

652
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,440
somebody made our kids do it. We're like, no, no,

653
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,880
I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it.

654
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: So if anybody's losing and they're like, oh, you shouldn't

655
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,760
you're you shouldn't spoil your kids like that and make

656
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,880
their lunch you're handicapping them, then okay, Ruby Frankie, exactly,

657
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,000
you do you we're gonna do us. Yes, we're gonna

658
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,199
make sure our five year olds eat.

659
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: We're no, Ruby fright. That's gonna be our next podcast, making.

660
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,679
Speaker 2: Your five year olds pack their own lunch and like

661
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,679
and if they forget, then then they're screwed. They can't

662
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239
eat right, And the school was trying to tell her,

663
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960
but it's really important, like they can't go a whole

664
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:57,920
day without.

665
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: Eating, and she was like, no, don't feed my kid.

666
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: But it was so disturbing that this whole situation she

667
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,960
was doing the vlog, you know, completely after she'd gone crazy,

668
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:17,440
after she went viral for what was the thing that

669
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,880
she got basically caught doing.

670
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh, having her son sleep on a bean bag chair. Yes,

671
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,000
that's when everybody was like, this is suspect.

672
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: Yes, what is going on over there? And then they

673
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,119
started like having her investigated a little bit. And that's

674
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,880
when then she went really crazy and all of those

675
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,159
people you see all the comments, people are like, bitch,

676
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,079
is crazy what I'm doing? And yet nobody investigated. No,

677
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,000
I know, it is so sad, and the dad leaves.

678
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Then the dad leaves, I know, leaves these poor kids

679
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:54,280
in the care of her and her nutjob girlfriend, Like

680
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:55,440
what the fuck?

681
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: And he doesn't see his kids for an entire year.

682
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:02,159
Right then, this this was just so maddening to me. Okay,

683
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,079
so they find out, they find the kids. They're completely abused.

684
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,679
The little boy has bruises and wounds all.

685
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,679
Speaker 1: Over his body. They find all this stuff. They call

686
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,599
the dad that she calls the day she go get

687
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:19,480
the kids. Get the kids. This is how you can

688
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,000
redeem yourself right after being out of the house for

689
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:23,079
a year, and he's.

690
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: Just gonna do it. Yeah, you can help her get

691
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,760
away with it. I mean, thank god. The police were like,

692
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,039
oh hell no, And without having seen them for an

693
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:35,119
entire year, knowing that they were abused, he was just like, okay, well, yeah,

694
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,039
I would do anything to like win her approval. He

695
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:39,880
was like, oh my god. When I saw her name

696
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,199
came up on my phone, I was like, she's calling me.

697
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I know, Ruby, I know what a fucking process I know.

698
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:52,920
And then he gets to get in the police station

699
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:56,519
and they're like, yeah, your kid is emaciate, and he's like,

700
00:36:56,559 --> 00:37:00,599
what's that mean? Oh my god, it is starving to death.

701
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,960
And he's like, wait, what yeah, where have you been

702
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,719
dude for the last year?

703
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: How is he not at all trying to contact any

704
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,880
of the kids when he got kicked out of the

705
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,159
house and the son got kicked out of the house,

706
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
and he wouldn't let the sun come live with him, right.

707
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I know. That was heartbreaking to me. Again, Stephanie and

708
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,840
I would be like, come on in, I'll come pick

709
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,039
you up. I mean, we would kill ourselves, bend over backwards. Yeah,

710
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,480
I was like, but instead very blocks his son. He

711
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:39,360
blocked his son, right, yeah, his son blocked him. Somebody

712
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,280
they blocked each other. Yeah, No, the son didn't block

713
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,719
the dad. He was dad blocked his son. Yeah, can

714
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,519
you imagine you would have to put a bullet in

715
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:53,159
my head before I block my children? Unbelievable.

716
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not comparing my mother, I swear to God,

717
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,280
I am not comparing the situations. But having had the

718
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:09,760
childhood I had, I can see how people can just

719
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,760
go like I don't care, like cut themselves off like that,

720
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,480
not the kids, but I have seen that, Like I

721
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:20,159
don't find it so unbelievable, because I feel like my

722
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,920
mom had that, like, Okay, your leave, I don't care,

723
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,199
get out. You're disrupting my peace and quiet and my family.

724
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,519
And also how she could you know she'd cut my

725
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:36,119
brother off too and never spoke, never to speak to

726
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,159
us again. Like I can see it, yet it is

727
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,239
so foreign to me. I can't imagine. And maybe that's

728
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,320
why we've gone a little.

729
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: Bit the other way, maybe to an unhealthy degree.

730
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: I sure I could be a little codependent with my kids,

731
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,440
but I can't even imagine. I can't imagine having an

732
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,400
argument with my kids that goes on for like two hours,

733
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,800
let alone, like the get out of the house and

734
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,000
don't contact me.

735
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I could not imagine that either. It's unbelievable.

736
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,199
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break for something more pleasant. All right,

737
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:17,960
we're back, We're back. Yeah, uh okay. I watched Also

738
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,400
White Lotus last night, episode three. Did you guys watch

739
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:25,079
You're you're saving it up right?

740
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much. No, it's not, it's not. It was

741
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,400
so boring.

742
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, I liked this episode. It's it's on the

743
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,320
trajectory where the show goes where I can feel it's

744
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,239
starting to build the whole tension with the dad, like

745
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:39,880
that wasn't anything to you.

746
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,079
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but it's not really a spoiler. The dad

747
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,199
is just constantly getting calls from his work. No, John

748
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,400
and I were making jokes because we just kept looking

749
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,320
at each other going like, is this gonna just it's

750
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,199
just going to be the dad getting phone calls from

751
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,760
his office and people getting treatments. It's people are getting

752
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,679
massages or.

753
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: From the dad. Now what he starts doing in the

754
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,599
middle and at the end of the episode, he's starting

755
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,320
to spiral like do you know what he's doing? And

756
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,360
you see where it's going. I don't want again, I

757
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,199
don't want to say too much, but he's starting to

758
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,159
go he's starting to go off the deep on a

759
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:21,400
different path that's going to lead to a lot more trouble.

760
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: We'll see maybe, or it's just going to come out

761
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,280
of nowhere. You know, there's always like a right and

762
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,199
then you don't know who, Like lost, everybody has like

763
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,239
some kind of tension in their story.

764
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: Well like in the whole the whole thing about White

765
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Lotuses Too is they tease you with a death that

766
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,679
happened in the beginning, and then the whole rest of

767
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,519
the show is a guessing game, and you're always guessing

768
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,639
who's going to die, and so me and Aim you're

769
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:45,280
always like, okay, who's going to die? And it changes

770
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,559
from week to week, Like I thought it was someone

771
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:48,880
last week, Then I thought it was someone different this week.

772
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,920
But it's fun to watch people start to go off

773
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,920
the rails and then you're continuously guessing, and then you're

774
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,880
usually wrong.

775
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: Because it's usually a completely random like something you didn't see.

776
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,599
Speaker 3: I got my theories, Oh you do, Yeah, what is it?

777
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:05,320
I can tell you later?

778
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,039
Speaker 2: Tell me now, yeah, you.

779
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 1: To tell Yeah.

780
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: I think it's the security guard.

781
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's a good guess. Yeah, I think he's

782
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,159
going to get it he's you.

783
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 2: Oh, you think he's gonna get killed or you think

784
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:18,000
he's gonna do the killing.

785
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: No, I think he's gonna get killed. I think either

786
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880
the dad is gonna I don't know. I don't think

787
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,360
he's gonna spar away out of control. But they try

788
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,800
and like, you know, at first, you go, oh, Walton Goggins,

789
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,840
he's gonna go crazy, but then maybe not. Now I'm

790
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,559
thinking it's I forget his name, Greg Gary or Greg

791
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,039
the bald guy from.

792
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well he goes

793
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,159
by both names. Oh yeah, his name was Greg, but

794
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,719
he's like, no, it's Gary. Yeah, he changed his name.

795
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think the security guard is gonna get

796
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,159
is gonna be the one that's killed.

797
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm gonna say I think the security guard

798
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,320
is the one who's going to go crazy and killing

799
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,679
is good.

800
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:59,559
Speaker 3: It's two completely opposite theories. Yeah, but that's not bad.

801
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

802
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: You saw episode one though, right, yeah, okay, so you

803
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,639
know who we're talking about.

804
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,159
Speaker 1: Kinda, I mean, I don't remember.

805
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 3: It's they're hitting us with a misdirect when they open

806
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,079
on the Sun of the Black Woman, like, oh my

807
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:13,679
mom needs to be Hey, my momy, like I think

808
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,400
they're hitting us with a misdirect there, Like I think

809
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,280
it's gonna be fine.

810
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. Yeah, I I

811
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,360
I'm just trying to care. But I'm like, I don't know,

812
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000
I'm not it's I'm not it's not hooking me like

813
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:33,840
the first two seasons did. But we'll see. I'm gonna

814
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,360
keep watching.

815
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: You watch it one by one, both first and second season.

816
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 2: I believe, so yeah, huh.

817
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 1: Well, because the first season I was like, what's the

818
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,280
big I don't know, it takes so long to get into.

819
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,239
And then after I let it after it was the

820
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,519
season finale, then I went and watched it and then

821
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,360
I was like, oh, I love it. And then I

822
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,039
watched season two, but I watched it after it was

823
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:00,000
over again. But now I like the show so much.

824
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,719
I don't know if I can wait until it's over.

825
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,440
I mean, I have to watch.

826
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 2: This is how I feel about Love is Blind. This

827
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,079
season of Love is Blind is not good, but I

828
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,320
still like I wake up on Friday morning and like

829
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,400
because the episodes come out on Friday, and I'm like, ah,

830
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,280
I want to see, but I'm more fast forwarding through them.

831
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, see. Everybody's telling me that this season's not that great,

832
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:25,920
which is why I haven't watched it.

833
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: I think it's because everybody's from Minnesota and they're just

834
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:34,480
like kind of boring, like they're not There's not a

835
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,119
lot of drama. I don't think people from Minnesota are

836
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,519
as eager to get famous, or they wouldn't probably be

837
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:43,519
living in Minnesota if they're like really trying to. You know,

838
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Usually it's more people in bigger cities in not that

839
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,679
Minneapolis isn't a big city, but you know what I mean.

840
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,000
It's people in like Chicago, New York, LA, right, even

841
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,360
Austin where people are thinking they might be famous. Yeah yeah,

842
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,960
and wanting stepping stone to get really nice so they

843
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,880
can come move to LA.

844
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of drama. No, is it even

845
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,039
worth it? Uh no?

846
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:18,199
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I'm into it now, so like

847
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,400
I didn't know it was not going to be good,

848
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,960
so now I'm kind of have to I have to

849
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,320
find out what happens. But no, it's really not worth it.

850
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: That sucks.

851
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:34,119
Speaker 2: There's one guy who's turned out, in my estimation to

852
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,039
be kind of an asshole. But if you look at Reddit,

853
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,079
some people are like.

854
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,599
Speaker 1: Oh, he's not that bad really, so not a lot

855
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,239
of like because there's always like, behind the scenes, this

856
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,079
guy was really dating a chick when he met when

857
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,079
he went on the show. There's always that kind of like, no, there's.

858
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: No dirt on it, abody, there's not a lot of

859
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,440
there's so far there have been no like big twists.

860
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: No. Oh that's a shame.

861
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: I know.

862
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: Also, have you ever tried a yellowjacket?

863
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: I love that show? Okay, good, I love it? What

864
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,760
I like it? Is it out yet?

865
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? They're like yeah, yeah, it's a little slow starting,

866
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,639
but last the last two episodes have been pretty good.

867
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know a new I knew a new

868
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,800
season was coming.

869
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: It's on Paramount.

870
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I love it. You would love the soundtrack

871
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,239
of that show. They play like nineties and like eight

872
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,239
like eighties nineties. It's women moms that are like kind

873
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,400
of our age. So they play and then flash back

874
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,519
to when they were teenagers. Now in back and forth,

875
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:37,119
you know it's.

876
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,199
Speaker 3: Gonna say, I know you don't like time jumps, but

877
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,960
this one's.

878
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: Okay, because this one's okay.

879
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,039
Speaker 3: They're all the younger selves so that you can clearly

880
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:45,320
tell when they're going back and forth.

881
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,039
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that, honestly, Like if you if I

882
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,519
know for sure, oh okay, we're going back in time

883
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,880
right now, then as long as I understand it, I

884
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,239
don't want to be confused. I don't want to be there.

885
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:02,679
Wait no, it's did that happen in the past? Or

886
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,199
is that in the fucking future? I don't want to

887
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:09,760
get mad.

888
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: What was that show that it was horrible? That I

889
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,480
hated that you that you kind of like dark that's

890
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,760
what it was called. That had every quality that was

891
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:20,079
show like.

892
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,199
Speaker 3: Foreign like German show.

893
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,199
Speaker 1: Ah.

894
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,639
Speaker 2: I think it was subtitled.

895
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: I was like, but I'd heard so many good things,

896
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,559
and then I was like.

897
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: This is so non for me.

898
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to know when to just like cut

899
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:37,480
your losses, right.

900
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: You don't have to force yourself, you know. Yeah, we

901
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,079
have a lot of options for entertainment these days.

902
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: It's true. I think you'd like Yellow Jackets. I really do.

903
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,679
Speaker 2: Okay, did you guys ever hear of this movie? And

904
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,119
I'm gonna say probably not, and you can look it up.

905
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:58,719
There's a movie called whatever, and it was such a

906
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,360
great movie. But it was really independent and it was

907
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,119
basically a movie about my freaking childhood about it's about

908
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,480
a girl growing up in the eighties and it I

909
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,960
think it's in Washington and I lived in I had

910
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,079
went to high school in Spokane, Washington. And do you

911
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:18,880
see this movie?

912
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,519
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, but it's yeah, you said, it's like

913
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,000
a small movie. There's no one big in it.

914
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:25,199
Speaker 1: I don't know the dreg Yeah, what was tell me

915
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,559
the abstract ninety eight?

916
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: It came out the log line on IMDb as a

917
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,280
teen faces her impending adulthood in the care free sex

918
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,360
and drug revolution years of the early eighties, prior to

919
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,400
the fears of aides.

920
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't remember like there being a.

921
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,519
Speaker 3: Bitter divorced mother and her sadistic kid brother.

922
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

923
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't really remember the movie that well, but I

924
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,119
remember the soundtrack.

925
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: I remember vibe and I was like, wow, this is

926
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,679
like I was seriously a movie about like me.

927
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: Wow, because high school I graduated in eighty four. I'm old,

928
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,400
so high school was eighty to eighty four, right, And

929
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,079
it came out this movie came out in the nine

930
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,239
late nineties. Yeah, it was like it was like a

931
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:16,840
you know, nostalgia movie, right about growing about the eighties, right,

932
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:18,440
you should look up this movie.

933
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: I think you would really like it. I'll look it up. Yeah,

934
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,079
what's called whatever, I'm going to check it out.

935
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Like this affected youth kind of but that high school

936
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:30,360
it was just like I just feel like it was

937
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,800
like our high school days of like driving around getting

938
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,800
stoned in the backseat of somebody's car, listening to Peter Gabriel,

939
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,199
like you know, Shock the Monkey.

940
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: Right, right, I like that kind of those kind of movies.

941
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,079
I love that.

942
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny because when I think about, you know,

943
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:58,320
like getting high, okay, like early days of getting high,

944
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,920
not getting high like as an a grown up, where

945
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,039
I would get paranoid, and I just and I know

946
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:06,440
that I had bad, bad times getting high when I

947
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,400
was younger too, but I do remember the good times

948
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,880
of getting high and just being like, oh my god,

949
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,719
I'm so high and feeling like every song sounds better

950
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,599
and like somehow just listening to music with headphones on

951
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,079
and going, oh my god, I can feel every note

952
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:26,360
of this music. And then I think about how young

953
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,000
I was, and then I get really scandalized by the

954
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,880
thought of my kids doing that, right, right, I know,

955
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:35,119
like the idea of my kids being like fucked up.

956
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could you imagine.

957
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: I just don't like the idea of it.

958
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,519
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I know, but also the pod is

959
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,599
different that now that it was back then, right, But

960
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,880
it's so funny. I was telling my friend Jennifer about

961
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,239
my friend Jennifer that passed away, and I was telling

962
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,079
her that she was the one that introduced me to

963
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,480
like CDs, like this is the first time you're gonna

964
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,920
listen to the CD. And she put on Purple Rain

965
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,960
by Prince in my headphones and we got stoned in

966
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,639
high school. After school Daly beloved yes, and I was

967
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:12,599
like whoa, Like, oh my god, this is the future

968
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:17,199
of sound. We just I was just I was remembering

969
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,519
all of this about my friend Jennifer that passed away

970
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,679
and that she introduced me to all these things. But

971
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,199
it was like, that's what it was like when you

972
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,239
got stoned back in our high school days. Right now,

973
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,320
I don't know if kids are feeling that or not.

974
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,679
I don't know if it's too strong marijuana pot for

975
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,400
them or I don't know because I don't smoke. I can't.

976
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:41,920
I don't like any THHC even in my gummies or

977
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,000
anything because I don't like that, that paranoia feeling. And

978
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,119
I don't know kids have that or not.

979
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:55,079
Speaker 2: But I mean, I haven't obviously been stoned. In May,

980
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,480
it'll be sixteen years. But even before that, before I

981
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:03,599
got sober, I was not really enjoying pot anymore. I

982
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:06,320
don't think. I don't remember the last time that I

983
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,639
was stoned. I do not think I've been stoned since

984
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:14,639
I've had kids. Yeah, so I think that would the

985
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,440
idea that made me too paranoid to be stoned while

986
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,679
having it. Well, I just never did well with pot though.

987
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,159
This is like, it's not a judgment on people who

988
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,960
use pop it because I think for other people maybe

989
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:32,239
pot was to them what like wine was to me,

990
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,679
where I felt still totally in control, not drunk, but

991
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,800
just like relax But pot never made me feel relaxed.

992
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,320
It just made me feel completely altered and not one

993
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,599
hundred percent sure what was.

994
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,599
Speaker 1: Real, I agree, which is a terrible feeling. It is

995
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:50,440
a terrible feeling. It was not fun. I didn't know.

996
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,079
I mean, it was fun when I was in high school,

997
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:56,280
but yeah, when I got later into my adulthood, I

998
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,119
just didn't enjoy it as much.

999
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,639
Speaker 2: But kids so ubiquitous for kids in school. Now, that's

1000
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:09,480
what way more than drinking. Kids are all stoners, I know,

1001
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,800
So they must like it.

1002
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: They must they must not be having the reaction that

1003
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,440
we right.

1004
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,079
Speaker 2: Right, because why would they all do it all the time.

1005
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1006
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,679
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, stoner's was a thing like

1007
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,960
that was the burnouts. And you knew who the stoners were.

1008
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,480
They were not kids who just liked to party. They

1009
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,880
were kids who were wake and bake, and they were

1010
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:38,559
the totally unmotivated kids, usually dungeons and dragons, but also

1011
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,840
it could just be the kids and they all hung

1012
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,360
out outside. They would go out at lunch, and they

1013
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,599
all wore like had roach clips. They were all into

1014
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,039
like pot like culture, hot culture, right, and they just

1015
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:54,320
like hung out with each other and did nothing else.

1016
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: No club, you call them what hashers? Oh okay, yeah, yeah,

1017
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,440
that's that was the group back then.

1018
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:08,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then everybody else was just like different. Everybody drank, right,

1019
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:12,400
but there wasn't like the group of like alcoholics.

1020
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: No, they were all like different groups like the preppies.

1021
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,519
Speaker 2: Right, But then they all came together at like parties.

1022
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, but not the burnout, not the burnout, No, Caitlin.

1023
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: What about you were there like the potheads at your school?

1024
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah that was me.

1025
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just but were they like the burnout?

1026
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,639
Speaker 3: I went to a much different school. It was like,

1027
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,639
you know, kind of a fancy. It was a very

1028
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:42,920
like artsy private school, right. I went to school with

1029
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,280
a lot of yeah, a lot of like famous kids,

1030
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,239
famous celebrities kids, And there wasn't a lot of people

1031
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,880
in my Like I graduated like seventy five kids in

1032
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,800
my class, right, and everybody in the school was like

1033
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,159
really smart except for me. Me and my couple of

1034
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,639
friends were the dumb ones, you know, and all the

1035
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:03,079
cool kids at my school were the really smart ones.

1036
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1037
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,559
Speaker 3: They'd be arguing about their like ap physics tests and

1038
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,519
stuff like that. Those were all the cool kids. So

1039
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,840
like me and my dumb stone of friends or so,

1040
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,639
like junior year is when I started smoking pot and

1041
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,079
everybody was like oh it was like me and like

1042
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,199
two other kids in the grade were smoking pot. They're like, oh, no,

1043
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,280
we're not touched. And my school was very strict. If

1044
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,679
you got caught with any pot, any or you were like,

1045
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,119
they would expel you immediately.

1046
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,199
Speaker 2: How did you not get caught.

1047
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: I've I don't know. I just played it off with

1048
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,119
where'd you get it? I had friends. I had friends,

1049
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,800
but not at my school. No, I made friends with

1050
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,039
kids outside my school that were other pod heads. I

1051
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:44,880
was never like awake. I was never like what you

1052
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,079
were talking about, like wake and bake smoke all the time.

1053
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:51,800
Like there was only like maybe three or four times

1054
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,760
where like I snuck off campus to get high and

1055
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,679
then came back for a class. But by senior year,

1056
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,039
a lot more of the kids had already come around

1057
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:03,400
to where I'm you know, they were smoking pop by

1058
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,480
then too. But junior year I was like looked at.

1059
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,119
It's like, oh that's the stoner kid.

1060
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,639
Speaker 1: So wow. I love.

1061
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,079
Speaker 2: And maybe in a next episode, I want you to

1062
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:17,880
retell some of those going on college tours oh stories

1063
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:21,679
by now, because my kids are in that right now,

1064
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,920
being so pressured about college stuff.

1065
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: I'll tell you next one. I'll tell you on the Friday.

1066
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,840
It's just one story, but it's not a good one, no, okay.

1067
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,199
I mean to.

1068
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Remember that they're really pushing right now. The kids should

1069
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,840
all be touring and you know they're juniors, but especially

1070
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,079
Sadie is just like, oh my god, enough I don't

1071
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:42,679
want to hear about college anymore. That's all I hear about.

1072
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,840
So yeah, and Xander's like, yeah, when are you taking

1073
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,800
me to see school? And I'm like, bitch, get into

1074
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,199
one first and then I will. Because it wasn't a

1075
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,320
great for LB to go to all these schools and

1076
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,000
then be denied me. So like, let's just wait. Yeah, anyway,

1077
00:55:58,119 --> 00:55:59,880
let us say hello to our friends. We have a

1078
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,480
guest by the way for Friday lead Deal, Stacy Garcia,

1079
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,159
and she has a podcast that Calin is producing it.

1080
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: Right, I'm doing a new podcast with her called Never

1081
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,199
miss a Monday, which it started out as a kind

1082
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:16,199
of like a motivational meditation, health and fitness podcast, which

1083
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,800
is what she wanted to start to do. But when

1084
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,599
she was developing it, she got breast cancer, right, so

1085
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,800
a lot of her I mean obviously that sidetracktor And

1086
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,320
so she now talks about dealing with breast cancer and

1087
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,400
telling her kids about it and her husband and that's

1088
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,000
all kind of mixed in with you know, how to

1089
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,840
overcome that sort of thing.

1090
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has two little kids.

1091
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait, yeah to talk to her, but also

1092
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,840
I want to say hi to our our people. Stephanie

1093
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,119
Stingernker and Athena Ginchard. We love your dancing. And Sandra,

1094
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,360
it's not easy being green.

1095
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:47,199
Speaker 1: Do you do it?

1096
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 2: Jennifer, get up? Aaron is a dirty Sanchez God, I

1097
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,079
love saying that. Leslie's stop with the coughing. What do

1098
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,880
you are you going to close your veterinarian office? Oh

1099
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,199
that's a that's a little nod to our patreon right

1100
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:05,480
this week where I told a story about the vet.

1101
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:06,920
Let's just say.

1102
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: Kelly Brandt, she's not your aunt, but she'll take you

1103
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,159
to plan parry the vet. Yeah she will. Rebecca, no

1104
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,480
one is so cute. Shan Foshwa He's so hot. Missy

1105
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:20,239
and Gabby they were at their feet Stay yes, Hilary

1106
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,800
feet sellers, feat Sellers.

1107
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:26,559
Speaker 2: Katerina, check that moller out, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick kitts it

1108
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,760
out of the park, Polly, We love your pancakes. Rita's

1109
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,159
rocking that bassiet with Elizabeth Williamson's nude. She just had

1110
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:37,760
a baby. Mm hmm, nikk you call your girl. Katie's

1111
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,039
rolling on e leash. She's not stoned. Kelly, Laddie Dot

1112
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:44,559
and Dick is frolicking and also our friend Christa Stroup

1113
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:48,199
is giving her shout to her friend Sarah, who lost

1114
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,559
her son to suicide he was only twenty one, and

1115
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:57,679
started a project called the Chase Hailey Project. So go

1116
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,400
to Chase Haley Project dot com.

1117
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: And check it out.

1118
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,159
Speaker 2: Uh, it's getting to be that time. Act Yeah is

1119
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:07,320
coming up. And our friend Laurie Bishop's son developed an

1120
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,679
ACT test prep guide. It's called Better Test Prep. Check

1121
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,119
it out on Instagram. That's the easiest way to find it.

1122
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Better dot Test dot Prep.

1123
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:22,599
Speaker 2: And my friend I will not say her name because

1124
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:26,360
it's a it's a very anonymous account on Medium because

1125
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,960
she tells a lot of really personal stories. But go

1126
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:33,280
to medium dot com at Unbecoming Stories and check out

1127
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,440
some of my friends writing Family Skeptical. It's a podcast

1128
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,480
about raising kids with no religion. You don't need to

1129
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:41,480
be religious to enjoy this podcast, and you know it

1130
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:45,840
will help you. The Family Skeptical. Go if you're in

1131
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,480
Palm Springs or Palm Desert, why not go to Wilma

1132
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:52,400
and Frieda and eat some fucking delicious salmon del don't

1133
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,679
don't not do that. And also to our friend Becky

1134
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:03,000
Barris Basic Becky on Facebook, she makes t shirts, mousepads. Yeah,

1135
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:06,199
somebody on our Facebook page was saying they wanted a

1136
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,320
T shirt with Elon Musk that says he doesn't even

1137
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,079
go here. That's cute, right, I wear that shirt. So

1138
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:16,320
Becky is we I tagged her and she's going to

1139
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:16,960
make those shirts.

1140
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Oh nice, that's nice. Yeah.

1141
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,639
Speaker 2: If you're on the island of Kawhi, go to Sugar Skull.

1142
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,440
That's our friend Maren's Bakery gift shop. Yeah, it's called

1143
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,760
Sugar Skull. If you want to see their website, go

1144
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,119
to Sugar Skull eight oh eight dot square dot site.

1145
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:35,199
If you're going to plan a trip, why not go

1146
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,000
to why Not Use Waves and Wonder Travel. That's our

1147
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:41,880
friend Christine Blacks Company, and the Instagram is Travel with

1148
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Christine b Check that out. My friend and your friend,

1149
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,679
Jacob Crowley is very growley and adorable and he's giving

1150
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,480
his shout to the ACLU also HRC, which is the

1151
00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:00,159
Human Rights Campaign. But we really ACLU is doing a

1152
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:03,000
lot of heavy lifting right now in these political times.

1153
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:05,599
So if you can spare any amount of money to

1154
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:07,119
the ACLU, please do it.

1155
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: And every week we do.

1156
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:15,639
Speaker 2: Adam Lerner Adam's Got a Car dot com he's been

1157
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:19,079
helping so many people from FCOL. So if you need

1158
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to buy a car, get a car that's used, get

1159
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a car that's new, Lisa Car, buy it straight out.

1160
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,679
Let Adam help you. Just go to Adam's got a car,

1161
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,880
contact him and say you're FCOL person.

1162
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: He'll hook you. I'll and then our.

1163
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:38,119
Speaker 2: Friend Laura Wingfield is helping her friend OSCARS Queer Youth

1164
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,119
Resource in Vancouver, Washington. Here is the website to go

1165
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:49,679
check out q y RC Vancouver, Wa dot org. Queer

1166
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Youth Resource Center, Vancouver, Washington dot org. And it's a

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