Speaker 1: Made a decision of peace. Sunny sun on. I had
a vision night. So what's up, everybody, welcome, I'm for
guring out loud. Hi, it's a beautiful day. It really
is little, chilly little. It was chilly this weekend. I
had friends come to town, and it was beautiful all the
days leading up to when they came, and then the
one day that we were out and about hanging out together,
it was freezing and cold and windy. And then as
soon as they left, the sun's out, Clouds is out,
clouds is out.
Speaker 2: Who came to visit.
Speaker 1: Mike and his girlfriend? Oh, Christie, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He has a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: He's had girlfriend for a while. Oh okay, they're really cute.
They're really sweet, and uh he had work to do
the over in La this weekend. So they drove out
and then we went out to We just walked around
like Beverly Hills, Like, what is there to do? Any
you know what we're gonna do? Go to Universal Studios exactly,
Disteland or the beaches, you know, like everything's closed. I
guess I don't know. The roads are closed to the beach. Oh,
but it was freezing, so you can't go to the beach.
So they were like, you know, she wanted to go
see Beverly Hills. She lives in Phoenix. So we went
and walked around Beverly Hills. It was nice, we had
a good time.
Speaker 2: It's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. Nice.
Speaker 2: The thing is when people are coming from out of town.
Now I've lived in la Let's see. I lived here
when I was a kid, from like two to twelve.
Then I was then from like eighteen on to now
in my fifties, and I still could not tell you,
like what to do if you're in town. Like whenever
people are like what should we do? What's the I'm
always like, I have no idea. I don't know.
Speaker 1: My cousin's from Cleveland. They would come out every summer
and my mom and dad and my brothers would take
them to a taping of like Happy Days. Yes, of
course I think of like you know some show TV
show like Price. They always wanted to do the prices right,
But I always had to stay home because I was
too young. Because they were old enough to sit in
studio audience. I was like ten, so I couldn't. I
was like upset, But yeah, that's what they would do.
Go go watch shows, Go look at the Walk of
Fame in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: True. Yes, that's a very la thing to do. I
wonder now if there are as many tapings, because there
really are, I know, many sitcoms now. Everything's streaming now.
Speaker 1: I think people now want to go see Jimmy Kimmel
live and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, true, that's a really hard ticket to get them. Yeah,
you don't just get that, Like you don't go to
Venice Beach and have somebody handing out Jimmy Kimmel tickets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. They don't need you right.
Speaker 2: Now, right, same as like I tried to get when
we were in New York. I tried to get tickets
to SNL and I could not.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's tough ticket. Yeah. Did you watch the
Oscars last night? I did not? Yeah, did you I
skimmed through him this morning.
Speaker 2: I watched some of the monologue.
Speaker 1: I did watch his monologue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was very underwhelming.
Speaker 1: What about you? I think he did. I think he
did a pretty good job. He had some singers, But yeah,
I liked it.
Speaker 2: I liked the announcement they made when he was coming
out and they said four time Oscar watcher.
Speaker 1: That was hilarious. I caught that, but.
Speaker 2: That wasn't him, right. I thought he was actually a
good performer, but I didn't think the jokes were great.
Speaker 1: I think it was a little slow going. And then
I think he got a little more. I don't know
if it was comfortable or what, but then I thought
maybe God his groove. I didn't care about the number
he did.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't get that far?
Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I watched like the first ten minutes of the monologue,
and I think it was eighteen minutes long. So I
didn't get to the thing right.
Speaker 1: And but I did watch The Substance. Have you seen
that movie?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't recommend watching it while you're eating,
that's for sure. It's like ordered food. I watched The
Substance and I was like, oh, I had a pause
it is gory, Kaylin, have you seen it? All right?
It is gory? Is I didn't know it was gory.
It's like a horror movie, right kind of?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 1: Eh, I wouldn't call it a horror movie. Body orror
is that what they call it?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Creatures out ka? Yeah, okay, yeah, like people like humans
into things. I don't know. It was. It was pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: I heard the ending is really bad.
Speaker 1: The ending. Yeah, well I can't. I don't want to
talk about it. I want you guys to see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I haven't seen I don't think any of
the movies that was the NOVITD. I don't think I've
seen one of them. No, not even Wicked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that. Kept meaning to, but like,
who has time to Who's going to the movies?
Speaker 2: It was, it's way too hard these people go to
the movies. Do people go to the movies?
Speaker 1: My kids do? I don't. I haven't gone to the
movies in a long time. I mean, i've seen Wicked
on stage, you know, I've taken my kids to see
it the same, But I haven't seen the movie. And
then I thought, oh, i'll watch it when it comes
out on TV at home. But I'm like, I don't
have three hours to sit there and watch Wicked. Like
I I get the gist. I know what happens the same.
I'm sure. I'm very tell Did you know I watched
them kick off the show. They did an amazing number
together Arianna and Cynthia. Cynthia amazing, I mean just incredible talents.
Just I got you got the chills. One of the
best speeches, though, was Kieran Culkin's speech, which is always
he was great, and he was talking to his wife.
Basically he said, when I won succession, he goes, He goes,
I'm gonna wrap it up real quick, but I got
to tell the story. He goes, when I won succession.
We were in the parking lot walking going to our car,
and he said, you remember you said if I won,
if I won an Emmy, you would give me another kid,
kid number three. And she's like, that's right, I did
say that, and he goes. He goes, but what I
really want is kid number four, and she goes, well,
when you get an Oscar, I'll give you kid number four.
And he said that, and when he said that, the
whole place erupted when he when he said, well, when
I when you when you get an Oscar, because then
it was like oh and she's like, he goes, and
I never brought it up again, and he's like, do
you remember, and she's like, I totally remember. He was
like she was saying it him from the stage. Yeah.
That that. Now she's got to get busy.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's really he's a.
Speaker 1: Great speed Yeah yeah, yeah that. He never brought it
up again. And here he's on stage.
Speaker 2: Did the music start playing him off?
Speaker 1: Uh not yet. No, he wrapped it up in time.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. That's the only thing I
watched after that. I tuned out What's the Beginning.
Speaker 2: I was at a sort of a dinner party. I
was at a very big gathering of parents who have
something in common, we don't even need to say what,
at somebody's house, and it seemed to take precedence.
Speaker 1: Over the Oscar the Oscars.
Speaker 2: But it was funny because right before I left for
this thing, I was like, oh, and I am a
say the Oscars. And I went and looked at what's
nominated and I was like, and I haven't seen one
single one of these movies, not one that one, not
any movie that was in the in the contender spot, yeah,
couldn't even tell you. I was like, the brutalist, don't
know what it's about. And I'm not bragging at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I'm too cool to like No,
it's bad. No, everybody, I know so many people I know.
I went to dinner with my girlfriend Melissa for her
birthday a couple of days ago, and we were talking
about it not seeing one movie. Yeah, and her husband's
a writer. Like nothing, nobody. I don't have any friends
that have seen any of those movies.
Speaker 2: And I used to think, you know, when the kids
were young, I was like, well, this is the problem.
Is like I have young kids, I can't go out
to the movies. What's my excuse now? I mean, I
have seventeen year olds and a kid at college. Like
I could certainly go to the movies every night if
I wanted to. Yeah, First of all, I'm tired so so.
Second of all, it just I can't have my phone
with me. Third of all, I just like nothing ever
sound I never hear of it. And also, furthermore, we
know they're we know we're going to be able to
watch them on TV.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: So like it always seems like do I want to
spend twenty dollars for a movie plus another twenty dollars
for some popcorn right and sit in the theater or
do I want to wait and spend no money and
watch it at home?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly, that's my feeling. My feeling too, is I
just wait and see. Like if people go, oh, my god,
this movie you gotta see. If it starts getting buzz
and people are like, you got to see this movie,
then I'll I'll go to a theater and watch it.
But if I don'm not hearing anything, I'm not going anywhere. Right,
that's seeking it out, right, am I? Kaylin?
Speaker 2: Exactly? So how is your week?
Speaker 1: My leak was good? Like I said, it was my
friend Melissa's birthday. We took her out for her birthday,
went out with uh, Mike and Christie over the weekend,
and then, uh, where'd you go out for Melissa's birthday?
We went to this place called Hatchet Hatchet something, Hatchet Club, Okay,
hatchet something, And I thought, like Suzanne picked it for
because it was gonna be like one of those dates
in The Bachelor where they're throwing the hatchet. Oh that's
what I thought it. No, it wasn't. It's like this
fancy schmancy restaurant in like Century City, because we try
to pick a place that's central between me and her
and Melissa, and it was Melissa's birthday. But like, the
food was delicious, but they were really snooty at the restaurant. Oh,
like week, Suzanne and I drove together. Melissa was already there.
She was waiting at the bar.
Speaker 2: We get there, but Suzanne doesn't live anywhere she lives.
Speaker 1: She lives more in Century City. She lives in with
her boy. She moved in with her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Right, So wait, so did you drive to her house?
Speaker 1: I drove to her house okay, and we went together okay.
And then so we got there, Melissa was at the bar.
The lady like stopped us. We're like, they're like, okay,
now we can see you at your table. Go get
your friend. So I go get my friend. I got
stopped twice. Can I help you? Can I help you?
Like my friends sitting at the bar? You know, right,
I can't just walk up to the bar and you know,
like you have to have reservations one of those kind
of places. Oh boy, but the food was delicious, I
mean really good.
Speaker 2: But did you have to pick up the check?
Speaker 1: We split it?
Speaker 2: Oh you did?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because it was Melissa's bird well, Susanna and I
right right right, it was Melissa's birthday. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would feel like you would be the type of
friend where they would just look to you like you
got it usually I am so was there a moment
of uncomfortable?
Speaker 1: Now? But when I went out with Mike and Christie,
I paid okay dinner, which was fine, went to sushi.
Oh yeah, yeah, how was your week?
Speaker 2: It was fine? You know what I was thinking about
you this week because I was like.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: You would think when you have juniors in high school
that things would have slowed way down in terms of childcare.
But some stuff, some stuff does slow down. But I
feel like I've been parenting harder than ever.
Speaker 1: Have you watched Greece yet?
Speaker 2: I have not watched feel I not watched Greece. I
just feel like there is a constant And you would
remember this because junior year is a suck year as
far as and junior year is when Natalia got a
concussion and missed a bunch of school. And I don't
know if Sunny was struggling. I feel like he was
struggling a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has uti thing is bladder.
Speaker 2: Was that junior year or senior year?
Speaker 1: I think it was that now it was it was
in the summer in between. It started this summer before
senior year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just a lot of pressure and my
kids are in a lot of stuff. Okay, here's the thing.
Xander is in a lot of activities. I would I
feel like he's over scheduled, but it has nothing to
do with me. It's all him. A new thing will
come up at school and he'll be like, oh, by
the way, I need you to sign this that that
you're okay with me doing this for numerous hours a week.
And I'm like, okay, are you sure you want to
be doing that? Because you're also because this weekend coming up,
Xander has I'm so excited. This is more for me
than for him. But speech and debate the state qualifier,
Oh I'm excited for that too, which don't forget that
the last speech and debate one he didn't even make
it to the finals in the Okay, so he does
two categories. He does original oratory, which is the big
one that would could qualify him for state, and then
he was doing duo improv, so he got second place
in duo improv, but that event you can't he won't
do at the state qualifiers. And original oratory, which is
his main one, he didn't even get into the finals
last time. The first time he had second place, So
my point is it's a crapshoot, what's going to happen?
But I Am going to have a great time.
Speaker 1: Right, That's all that can right.
Speaker 2: So that's Friday after school until the evening and then
all day Saturday. Meanwhile, he's in this this Thespian club,
which also takes up a bunch of time, and he's
had to do stuff on weekends and go make movies
with people. Then he's in another thing called making Movies
that Matter that he had to apply to be in
that they picked a certain amount of kids. I know,
he's doing like so many things, but meanwhile he also
has like ap classes, so he now he's stressed out
all the time. And part of me is like, okay,
but you chose to take on all these extra things,
and he's like, yeah, I know, I just don't have
any downtime, right, But if he likes it, I mean, no,
I know, but I'm just saying it's like it's also
because he doesn't have his driver's license, there's a lot
I have to take him everywhere. Meanwhile, Sadie doesn't have
a lot of stuff going on, although she's in Greece,
but she also is very overwhelmed by academics. Yes, right,
so it's this, It's this I feel John and I
were just talking about this yesterday ago. I feel like
it's like whack the mole. LB had like an emotional
situation going on from college called me, wanted to come
home for a night, had to like, had so many
other things, and was driving kids places. And then this
is why I don't go to the fucking movies.
Speaker 1: Right right, okay, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, any know, No,
it's a lot I remember, you know, like when they
are doing their different things. One of them's got the volleyball,
the other one's going to got to do his podcast
that you drive. When you have to drive them everywhere,
that's the thing that kind of sucks at that age.
And then especially if their schools not close by beause
it's not close. Your school's not close by your kids, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean it's not far. It's like twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, like my kids, they went to school so
they could just if there was a thing after school
they wanted to go to, they could just walk there
after school. But yeah, it's just in that in eleventh
grade too, is tough.
Speaker 2: It's really tough.
Speaker 1: It's the hard year. Yeah, that you gotta you know,
got to focus on whatever, but like getting ready for
college and stuff like that. You know, I was talking
to Melissa. Her son's not quite there yet. He's in
tenth grade, but they're gonna start looking, you know, they
have to start thinking about that. Then she's got a
ten year old, so she's got a kid. It's a sophomore, right.
Then she's got a tenth grader and now a tenth
and a ten year old, so she's got a wide range. Yeah,
she's not slowing down anytime soon.
Speaker 2: I mean, my brother and sister in law have a
fourteen year old and a ten year old, and I'm like,
oh wait, that is such a world of difference they do.
I didn't realize they were that far apart. Yeah, well
their kids are only four years apart.
Speaker 1: Sounds a lot though, at fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because fourteen because her their oldest, is three years
younger than my youngest. And then they four years later
they had another one. But yeah, it does seem so
crazy that they have young right, the kids are young, right, right,
And then it just it's so slow at the beginning,
and You're like, God, that seems like it took a
long time to get to yeah, ten, but then between
ten and like freaking twenty.
Speaker 1: Right, it boom, Yeah, it kicks in high gear. Get ready, Galen,
my god, because you're.
Speaker 3: Some timely, not that much thinking about it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have nineteen year olds in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just fly It flew by. It's March. Your
kid's birthday is in June. Yeah, they're going to be nineteen.
I know, I know, it's crazy. I was when they
turn eighteen. Was when I was like, wow, I'm like, oh,
all right, they're nineteen. They just but eighteen. I was like,
that's just that's crazy. It just flew by. I felt
like they were ten years old, not that long ago.
Albie's going to be twenty one, see, and then when
they hit the twenties. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean just imagine, like when we started this, I
had babies.
Speaker 1: I know, my kids were babies. Yeah, they were three, right,
the twins.
Speaker 2: They were two and a half or three something like that.
I think LB was like five, right, Yeah. Because I
got sober when LB was four and a half, and
I'd been sober for a while before.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: A little while before. I was a guest on the
parent experiment with you and Teresa right because we talked
about me being sober, so that would have had to
be And then so she Alby was probably.
Speaker 1: Like five, Yeah, that's crazy.
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were talking about how time flies.
Speaker 2: It really really does. Yeah, we were talking about how LB.
When we started, LB was about five, so the twins
must have been two.
Speaker 1: Now the twins were I think like five. I think
they were five. No, absolutely not no, no, because yours
were gonna build LB was five.
Speaker 2: LB was five, and the twins were probably two. I
got sober when the twins were eighteen. Your twins, my twins,
Your my twins were like five five? Yes, okay, well
wait for a.
Speaker 3: Little Sonny coming into the studio with his.
Speaker 1: Ball, playing his little ball. I know, I think he
was doing like fantasy football back then too, when he
was like seven. Wow, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we talk about this a lot,
but I just really remember coming in and just being
so exhausted and just going I can't, like I can't
do it, and you're like, it's gonna get better, I promise.
But your twins that I was using his inspiration because
the Yardstick were also pretty young if you think about it, Yeah,
they were. They were Yeah, they were like four or five. Yeah,
just going to I'll never forget when I was like
taking them to kindergarten and I was like, so I
had to make them lunch every single day and then
have them just to return it at night. I remember
getting so mad I them lunch and they would just
come home with the sandwich and like, well, what did
you eat?
Speaker 1: My friends? Is food? Like they would never eat their food.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Drive member when they had rules.
Speaker 2: And maybe Kaylin's dealing with this now, where the kids
were not allowed to share food because they didn't want
I think they didn't want like maybe allergy issues too,
but they also didn't want kids like giving away their
healthy food, Like if you send them with an apple,
then they need to keep it in their lunch box
to send it home. They're not allowed to throw it
away or like you need to be able to see
and shame them.
Speaker 1: You're not eating their app exactly.
Speaker 2: But remember we would talk about this because I would
send the same apple to school every day because you
don't want to be like food shamed by the teachers
or the lunch monitors. So you'd send the But it
was like a Mexican standoff with the apples, because I'd
be like, really, you're really you're not gonna eat it,
You're gonna send it, I'm gonna get it at home again. Well,
I'm gonna put it in the gragerator overnight and send
it back in your lunch tomorrow. And it would just
go back.
Speaker 1: Till one of us threw it out. Yeah. I had
that with oranges too, Yeah, or what I think they
would just he just hated lunch. Just drove me nuts
because I never know what to pack for them, and
they would come first, they would say they want it,
then they would like it, then they didn't like it
eating it anymore. Whatever it was, It just you don't
cook it. You don't make your kids lunch. Who does
Amy the default parent. He's like, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: For one moment in time, I was like, oh, maybe
they just get lunch at school. And then I was like, no,
Amy makes it. I don't thinks. Probably Stunt's never packed
a lunch for the kids, not one time in all
these years.
Speaker 3: I have packed lunches before, I will say that, but
not recently.
Speaker 2: Okay, you wouldn't know what to pack, that's the thing.
It's not like John would completely refuse, but he wouldn't
know what they eat. I mean when they were little, right,
he fine with getting them a meal. Now I'm not saying,
but I'm just saying. Elbie was so specific when she
was in like preschool into early elementary school. She would
only eat a bagel and cream cheese and cream cheese.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Because remember people would say to us, well, like, I
don't know, my kid's a picky eater. And I was like, girl,
Elbie ate a bagel and cream cheese three meals a
day for many years and she's fine, right, but that
or a peanut butter sandwich, no jelly.
Speaker 1: She hated jelly. She was so picky.
Speaker 2: And then when they didn't like you to send peanut
butter to school, which I understand, but she would not
eat like nut butter. It had to be peanut butter
right right. She was like, what is this crap you're
giving me. I tried to do the sun sun butter
or whatever, and she was like, no, that's disgusting. So
I was like, well, I guess just a bait. Now
we're down to just a bagel of cean cheese.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. While you were talking, I
just remembered, like I had a friend whose daughter would
only eat whatever. She would not make her eat, like
if she wanted to eat a bowl of cereal before bed,
she let her have a bull and I remember not
seeing her for a while. Then I saw her and
I could see she lost a lot of weight, like
she looked like skin and bones, even though she kind
of was that. You know, some kids are just thin,
naturally thin. She had that physique, but she was even
more so that Like after I haven't seen her for
a while, and it's like, oh, this is what happens
when you let your kid eat whatever you want. Then
I remember we were talking about the Ruby Frankie story
and how they were showing his shoulder blades like because
they these kids were starved and malnourished, and we were
talking about the Ruby Frankie story. We were going to
talk about Oh my god. Okay, so I watched.
Speaker 2: Somebody on our Facebook group was like, hey, the Ruby
Frankie stories out, be careful full, it's like upsetting. John
wanted to watch it, and I was like, John, you
don't like stuff like that, Like this is going to
be upsetting, and he was like, no, I'm kind of interested.
It kind of hits John's sweet's body loves cult stuff.
And what I realized when I watched the documentary was
it's basically the same story as the.
Speaker 1: Lori Valo story.
Speaker 2: Remember that Mommy Day it is. It's the same thing.
It just the kids didn't get killed, but they would have.
They were because the same thing. The mom was saying
that they're the zombies. Their zombies have taken over their
bodies there there, and she needs to get rid of this.
It's Lorisvelle and it's Mormonism, it's the crazy, it's the cult.
It's the same exact thing with Lori Valo. She got
taken in by like a guy, right, and then he
was like yes, brainwashing her and like teaching and and
running like a little cult. Okay, well the same thing
with freakin' uh Ruby and the woman.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, totally totally the same thing.
Speaker 2: I this had gone on any longer, those kids would
have been dead.
Speaker 1: Well, weren't they planning? They didn't say it in this special,
but I remember watching a nightline they talked of those
two talked about they were gonna move or they were
gonna get land in the middle of the desert and
basically drop the kids off there and let them just
leave them in a desert. Oh do you remember yere
said something about that. Yes, but they didn't talk about
it in this documentary that we were talking about, But
they did in like this nightline special I watched, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was watching this Ruby Frankie thing, and it is so
freaking disturbing.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: When do you think of the fact that Okay, first
of all, I think I might be the most mad
at the dad. Yes, yeah, And you can say, oh
you want like, well he was he was brainwashed, But no,
he was just a freaking pussy.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I just want my wife's approval. I just want my
wife's approval. I just need her validation so bad. I
realized that he's admitting that that sucks. But when they
would ask him if he feels guilty, there would be
such long pauses before he'd be like, yeah, absolutely, But
I just really wanted her approval. That's all I wanted.
Speaker 1: Was her love. So right, it's like I can't relate
to somebody because I've never had a guy in my
life that would bend over backwards just for my love
like that. To me, it's just insane. But I don't know,
like who knows where he was coming from. The thing
that drove me nuts is the video of Jody Hildebrant
having a so called exorcism like like that like talking
and talks, Oh my god, and it's like cringe. It
was so cringe, and that they believed her. She's like
and they're like putting their hand on her head and stuff.
Obviously she's faking it as fuck, like she's told faking
it and they're buying it. And then they're like kicking
their kids out one by one because because she's telling
them that your son is watching pornography, so therefore he
needs to go, and you know, like unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Also, the older son who we love looks he looks
like a little like teen heart throw. Yeah, he looks
like a boy band, Like he's gonna be in a
boy band.
Speaker 1: But even he was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: My mom was like really great and like I just
really like Jody and she was like giving me these
really good teachings. And I mean, I feel like he's
still a little brainwashed.
Speaker 1: She was brainwashed by Jodi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's still somewhere in his mind, Like,
I don't know. My mom was like a pretty good mom.
It's like do you not see your siblings? I mean,
that was the saddest thing when they when the police
went into the house and found the kid and the
little girl who was like sitting in that like room, yes,
by herself, and so scared and you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I mean I saw, like I remember,
they would flash her. They found her journals that she wrote,
you know, and they would flash it on the screen.
I was I would I would pause it and read it,
you know. And there was one where she said that
she would make him she kept hitting him in the
back with a cactus proder. What is a cactus prouder? Anyway,
just sounds like a child abuse tool, doesn't it, Like, yeah,
a cactus proder. Was it a cattle prod? No, it's
a cactus proder? It was, it said, I don't know.
And then then that she would make him stand in
the sun in the heat and he would cry and
she would just be like that.
Speaker 2: Jump on a trampoline, yeah, eight hours?
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight, yeah, and you didn't want to do And
that's Satan talking. And I mean it was just like.
Speaker 2: Well, she said they were zombies. She said both those
the little the young kids were zombies because she was,
which isn't exactly what Lari Vallo said, right, because she
listened to Jody, but she was already like she was
already she was already abusive because they showed they had
all that those out what do you call it? Out
takes outtakes of the of her, of her vlog where
she was just being a total bitch kid. That was
before she ever met Jody.
Speaker 1: Right, she would like, go stop it right, knife, you're
gonna be on camera. Okay, Hi, it's mebody. She would
torture her kids just to like do you like she like,
talk nice? Oh, we're talking about your middle name? How
did you get your middle name? He's like, I don't
want to talk right now. I don't feel like talking.
Do you want to go to your room now? Put
a smile on your face. How'd you get your middle name?
It's so fake? Oh my god. I love that they
have video of all that shit and it's.
Speaker 2: Doc Remember when they when that thing came out about
Kate Goslin where the kid was what was thirsty and
wanting water and then she was like, no, stop it
right now, you're you're not getting any water.
Speaker 1: Shut up.
Speaker 2: And then you see her breach down, take her water
bottle and take a sip.
Speaker 1: Of her water, and I can't remember that.
Speaker 2: It went totally viral, like she was also another fucking
monster Kate.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, what's with these moms? I could never
I would you would have to like make me. I
would jump outside instead of having my kid do it.
I would do anything to not have my kid jump
in the heat like that. Like how does she let
her kid do that? Like, I mean even just the
fact that, uh, you know, the school called and her
five year old forgot to pack her lunch, so she
told them, don't give her any food. Let her learn
her listen, she was five and I would be fumbling
over backwards. God, and killing ourselves to get to the
school on time, drop off that lunch. Like, I mean,
we would do anything to kids, star, I mean, do
you imagine we're completely the the the polar opposite, That's
what I mean. Like we would be doing jumping jacks
in the heat somebody made us have to do like
somebody made our kids do it. We're like, no, no,
I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: So if anybody's losing and they're like, oh, you shouldn't
you're you shouldn't spoil your kids like that and make
their lunch you're handicapping them, then okay, Ruby Frankie, exactly,
you do you we're gonna do us. Yes, we're gonna
make sure our five year olds eat.
Speaker 1: We're no, Ruby fright. That's gonna be our next podcast, making.
Speaker 2: Your five year olds pack their own lunch and like
and if they forget, then then they're screwed. They can't
eat right, And the school was trying to tell her,
but it's really important, like they can't go a whole
day without.
Speaker 1: Eating, and she was like, no, don't feed my kid.
Speaker 2: But it was so disturbing that this whole situation she
was doing the vlog, you know, completely after she'd gone crazy,
after she went viral for what was the thing that
she got basically caught doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, having her son sleep on a bean bag chair. Yes,
that's when everybody was like, this is suspect.
Speaker 2: Yes, what is going on over there? And then they
started like having her investigated a little bit. And that's
when then she went really crazy and all of those
people you see all the comments, people are like, bitch,
is crazy what I'm doing? And yet nobody investigated. No,
I know, it is so sad, and the dad leaves.
Speaker 1: Then the dad leaves, I know, leaves these poor kids
in the care of her and her nutjob girlfriend, Like
what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And he doesn't see his kids for an entire year.
Right then, this this was just so maddening to me. Okay,
so they find out, they find the kids. They're completely abused.
The little boy has bruises and wounds all.
Speaker 1: Over his body. They find all this stuff. They call
the dad that she calls the day she go get
the kids. Get the kids. This is how you can
redeem yourself right after being out of the house for
a year, and he's.
Speaker 2: Just gonna do it. Yeah, you can help her get
away with it. I mean, thank god. The police were like,
oh hell no, And without having seen them for an
entire year, knowing that they were abused, he was just like, okay, well, yeah,
I would do anything to like win her approval. He
was like, oh my god. When I saw her name
came up on my phone, I was like, she's calling me.
Speaker 1: I know, Ruby, I know what a fucking process I know.
And then he gets to get in the police station
and they're like, yeah, your kid is emaciate, and he's like,
what's that mean? Oh my god, it is starving to death.
And he's like, wait, what yeah, where have you been
dude for the last year?
Speaker 2: How is he not at all trying to contact any
of the kids when he got kicked out of the
house and the son got kicked out of the house,
and he wouldn't let the sun come live with him, right.
Speaker 1: I know. That was heartbreaking to me. Again, Stephanie and
I would be like, come on in, I'll come pick
you up. I mean, we would kill ourselves, bend over backwards. Yeah,
I was like, but instead very blocks his son. He
blocked his son, right, yeah, his son blocked him. Somebody
they blocked each other. Yeah, No, the son didn't block
the dad. He was dad blocked his son. Yeah, can
you imagine you would have to put a bullet in
my head before I block my children? Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not comparing my mother, I swear to God,
I am not comparing the situations. But having had the
childhood I had, I can see how people can just
go like I don't care, like cut themselves off like that,
not the kids, but I have seen that, Like I
don't find it so unbelievable, because I feel like my
mom had that, like, Okay, your leave, I don't care,
get out. You're disrupting my peace and quiet and my family.
And also how she could you know she'd cut my
brother off too and never spoke, never to speak to
us again. Like I can see it, yet it is
so foreign to me. I can't imagine. And maybe that's
why we've gone a little.
Speaker 1: Bit the other way, maybe to an unhealthy degree.
Speaker 2: I sure I could be a little codependent with my kids,
but I can't even imagine. I can't imagine having an
argument with my kids that goes on for like two hours,
let alone, like the get out of the house and
don't contact me.
Speaker 1: I could not imagine that either. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break for something more pleasant. All right,
we're back, We're back. Yeah, uh okay. I watched Also
White Lotus last night, episode three. Did you guys watch
You're you're saving it up right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much. No, it's not, it's not. It was
so boring.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I liked this episode. It's it's on the
trajectory where the show goes where I can feel it's
starting to build the whole tension with the dad, like
that wasn't anything to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but it's not really a spoiler. The dad
is just constantly getting calls from his work. No, John
and I were making jokes because we just kept looking
at each other going like, is this gonna just it's
just going to be the dad getting phone calls from
his office and people getting treatments. It's people are getting
massages or.
Speaker 3: From the dad. Now what he starts doing in the
middle and at the end of the episode, he's starting
to spiral like do you know what he's doing? And
you see where it's going. I don't want again, I
don't want to say too much, but he's starting to
go he's starting to go off the deep on a
different path that's going to lead to a lot more trouble.
Speaker 2: We'll see maybe, or it's just going to come out
of nowhere. You know, there's always like a right and
then you don't know who, Like lost, everybody has like
some kind of tension in their story.
Speaker 3: Well like in the whole the whole thing about White
Lotuses Too is they tease you with a death that
happened in the beginning, and then the whole rest of
the show is a guessing game, and you're always guessing
who's going to die, and so me and Aim you're
always like, okay, who's going to die? And it changes
from week to week, Like I thought it was someone
last week, Then I thought it was someone different this week.
But it's fun to watch people start to go off
the rails and then you're continuously guessing, and then you're
usually wrong.
Speaker 2: Because it's usually a completely random like something you didn't see.
Speaker 3: I got my theories, Oh you do, Yeah, what is it?
I can tell you later?
Speaker 2: Tell me now, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: To tell Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's the security guard.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's a good guess. Yeah, I think he's
going to get it he's you.
Speaker 2: Oh, you think he's gonna get killed or you think
he's gonna do the killing.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's gonna get killed. I think either
the dad is gonna I don't know. I don't think
he's gonna spar away out of control. But they try
and like, you know, at first, you go, oh, Walton Goggins,
he's gonna go crazy, but then maybe not. Now I'm
thinking it's I forget his name, Greg Gary or Greg
the bald guy from.
Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well he goes
by both names. Oh yeah, his name was Greg, but
he's like, no, it's Gary. Yeah, he changed his name.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think the security guard is gonna get
is gonna be the one that's killed.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm gonna say I think the security guard
is the one who's going to go crazy and killing
is good.
Speaker 3: It's two completely opposite theories. Yeah, but that's not bad.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You saw episode one though, right, yeah, okay, so you
know who we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Kinda, I mean, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: It's they're hitting us with a misdirect when they open
on the Sun of the Black Woman, like, oh my
mom needs to be Hey, my momy, like I think
they're hitting us with a misdirect there, Like I think
it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. Yeah, I I
I'm just trying to care. But I'm like, I don't know,
I'm not it's I'm not it's not hooking me like
the first two seasons did. But we'll see. I'm gonna
keep watching.
Speaker 1: You watch it one by one, both first and second season.
Speaker 2: I believe, so yeah, huh.
Speaker 1: Well, because the first season I was like, what's the
big I don't know, it takes so long to get into.
And then after I let it after it was the
season finale, then I went and watched it and then
I was like, oh, I love it. And then I
watched season two, but I watched it after it was
over again. But now I like the show so much.
I don't know if I can wait until it's over.
I mean, I have to watch.
Speaker 2: This is how I feel about Love is Blind. This
season of Love is Blind is not good, but I
still like I wake up on Friday morning and like
because the episodes come out on Friday, and I'm like, ah,
I want to see, but I'm more fast forwarding through them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see. Everybody's telling me that this season's not that great,
which is why I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: I think it's because everybody's from Minnesota and they're just
like kind of boring, like they're not There's not a
lot of drama. I don't think people from Minnesota are
as eager to get famous, or they wouldn't probably be
living in Minnesota if they're like really trying to. You know,
Usually it's more people in bigger cities in not that
Minneapolis isn't a big city, but you know what I mean.
It's people in like Chicago, New York, LA, right, even
Austin where people are thinking they might be famous. Yeah yeah,
and wanting stepping stone to get really nice so they
can come move to LA.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of drama. No, is it even
worth it? Uh no?
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I'm into it now, so like
I didn't know it was not going to be good,
so now I'm kind of have to I have to
find out what happens. But no, it's really not worth it.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 2: There's one guy who's turned out, in my estimation to
be kind of an asshole. But if you look at Reddit,
some people are like.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's not that bad really, so not a lot
of like because there's always like, behind the scenes, this
guy was really dating a chick when he met when
he went on the show. There's always that kind of like, no, there's.
Speaker 2: No dirt on it, abody, there's not a lot of
there's so far there have been no like big twists.
Speaker 1: No. Oh that's a shame.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Also, have you ever tried a yellowjacket?
Speaker 1: I love that show? Okay, good, I love it? What
I like it? Is it out yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? They're like yeah, yeah, it's a little slow starting,
but last the last two episodes have been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know a new I knew a new
season was coming.
Speaker 3: It's on Paramount.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I love it. You would love the soundtrack
of that show. They play like nineties and like eight
like eighties nineties. It's women moms that are like kind
of our age. So they play and then flash back
to when they were teenagers. Now in back and forth,
you know it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, I know you don't like time jumps, but
this one's.
Speaker 1: Okay, because this one's okay.
Speaker 3: They're all the younger selves so that you can clearly
tell when they're going back and forth.
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that, honestly, Like if you if I
know for sure, oh okay, we're going back in time
right now, then as long as I understand it, I
don't want to be confused. I don't want to be there.
Wait no, it's did that happen in the past? Or
is that in the fucking future? I don't want to
get mad.
Speaker 1: What was that show that it was horrible? That I
hated that you that you kind of like dark that's
what it was called. That had every quality that was
show like.
Speaker 3: Foreign like German show.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: I think it was subtitled.
Speaker 1: I was like, but I'd heard so many good things,
and then I was like.
Speaker 2: This is so non for me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to know when to just like cut
your losses, right.
Speaker 2: You don't have to force yourself, you know. Yeah, we
have a lot of options for entertainment these days.
Speaker 1: It's true. I think you'd like Yellow Jackets. I really do.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you guys ever hear of this movie? And
I'm gonna say probably not, and you can look it up.
There's a movie called whatever, and it was such a
great movie. But it was really independent and it was
basically a movie about my freaking childhood about it's about
a girl growing up in the eighties and it I
think it's in Washington and I lived in I had
went to high school in Spokane, Washington. And do you
see this movie?
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, but it's yeah, you said, it's like
a small movie. There's no one big in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know the dreg Yeah, what was tell me
the abstract ninety eight?
Speaker 3: It came out the log line on IMDb as a
teen faces her impending adulthood in the care free sex
and drug revolution years of the early eighties, prior to
the fears of aides.
Speaker 2: I don't remember like there being a.
Speaker 3: Bitter divorced mother and her sadistic kid brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really remember the movie that well, but I
remember the soundtrack.
Speaker 1: I remember vibe and I was like, wow, this is
like I was seriously a movie about like me.
Speaker 2: Wow, because high school I graduated in eighty four. I'm old,
so high school was eighty to eighty four, right, And
it came out this movie came out in the nine
late nineties. Yeah, it was like it was like a
you know, nostalgia movie, right about growing about the eighties, right,
you should look up this movie.
Speaker 1: I think you would really like it. I'll look it up. Yeah,
what's called whatever, I'm going to check it out.
Speaker 2: Like this affected youth kind of but that high school
it was just like I just feel like it was
like our high school days of like driving around getting
stoned in the backseat of somebody's car, listening to Peter Gabriel,
like you know, Shock the Monkey.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I like that kind of those kind of movies.
I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny because when I think about, you know,
like getting high, okay, like early days of getting high,
not getting high like as an a grown up, where
I would get paranoid, and I just and I know
that I had bad, bad times getting high when I
was younger too, but I do remember the good times
of getting high and just being like, oh my god,
I'm so high and feeling like every song sounds better
and like somehow just listening to music with headphones on
and going, oh my god, I can feel every note
of this music. And then I think about how young
I was, and then I get really scandalized by the
thought of my kids doing that, right, right, I know,
like the idea of my kids being like fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could you imagine.
Speaker 2: I just don't like the idea of it.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I know, but also the pod is
different that now that it was back then, right, But
it's so funny. I was telling my friend Jennifer about
my friend Jennifer that passed away, and I was telling
her that she was the one that introduced me to
like CDs, like this is the first time you're gonna
listen to the CD. And she put on Purple Rain
by Prince in my headphones and we got stoned in
high school. After school Daly beloved yes, and I was
like whoa, Like, oh my god, this is the future
of sound. We just I was just I was remembering
all of this about my friend Jennifer that passed away
and that she introduced me to all these things. But
it was like, that's what it was like when you
got stoned back in our high school days. Right now,
I don't know if kids are feeling that or not.
I don't know if it's too strong marijuana pot for
them or I don't know because I don't smoke. I can't.
I don't like any THHC even in my gummies or
anything because I don't like that, that paranoia feeling. And
I don't know kids have that or not.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I haven't obviously been stoned. In May,
it'll be sixteen years. But even before that, before I
got sober, I was not really enjoying pot anymore. I
don't think. I don't remember the last time that I
was stoned. I do not think I've been stoned since
I've had kids. Yeah, so I think that would the
idea that made me too paranoid to be stoned while
having it. Well, I just never did well with pot though.
This is like, it's not a judgment on people who
use pop it because I think for other people maybe
pot was to them what like wine was to me,
where I felt still totally in control, not drunk, but
just like relax But pot never made me feel relaxed.
It just made me feel completely altered and not one
hundred percent sure what was.
Speaker 1: Real, I agree, which is a terrible feeling. It is
a terrible feeling. It was not fun. I didn't know.
I mean, it was fun when I was in high school,
but yeah, when I got later into my adulthood, I
just didn't enjoy it as much.
Speaker 2: But kids so ubiquitous for kids in school. Now, that's
what way more than drinking. Kids are all stoners, I know,
So they must like it.
Speaker 1: They must they must not be having the reaction that
we right.
Speaker 2: Right, because why would they all do it all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, stoner's was a thing like
that was the burnouts. And you knew who the stoners were.
They were not kids who just liked to party. They
were kids who were wake and bake, and they were
the totally unmotivated kids, usually dungeons and dragons, but also
it could just be the kids and they all hung
out outside. They would go out at lunch, and they
all wore like had roach clips. They were all into
like pot like culture, hot culture, right, and they just
like hung out with each other and did nothing else.
Speaker 1: No club, you call them what hashers? Oh okay, yeah, yeah,
that's that was the group back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then everybody else was just like different. Everybody drank, right,
but there wasn't like the group of like alcoholics.
Speaker 1: No, they were all like different groups like the preppies.
Speaker 2: Right, But then they all came together at like parties.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, but not the burnout, not the burnout, No, Caitlin.
Speaker 2: What about you were there like the potheads at your school?
Speaker 3: Yeah that was me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just but were they like the burnout?
Speaker 3: I went to a much different school. It was like,
you know, kind of a fancy. It was a very
like artsy private school, right. I went to school with
a lot of yeah, a lot of like famous kids,
famous celebrities kids, And there wasn't a lot of people
in my Like I graduated like seventy five kids in
my class, right, and everybody in the school was like
really smart except for me. Me and my couple of
friends were the dumb ones, you know, and all the
cool kids at my school were the really smart ones.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: They'd be arguing about their like ap physics tests and
stuff like that. Those were all the cool kids. So
like me and my dumb stone of friends or so,
like junior year is when I started smoking pot and
everybody was like oh it was like me and like
two other kids in the grade were smoking pot. They're like, oh, no,
we're not touched. And my school was very strict. If
you got caught with any pot, any or you were like,
they would expel you immediately.
Speaker 2: How did you not get caught.
Speaker 3: I've I don't know. I just played it off with
where'd you get it? I had friends. I had friends,
but not at my school. No, I made friends with
kids outside my school that were other pod heads. I
was never like awake. I was never like what you
were talking about, like wake and bake smoke all the time.
Like there was only like maybe three or four times
where like I snuck off campus to get high and
then came back for a class. But by senior year,
a lot more of the kids had already come around
to where I'm you know, they were smoking pop by
then too. But junior year I was like looked at.
It's like, oh that's the stoner kid.
Speaker 1: So wow. I love.
Speaker 2: And maybe in a next episode, I want you to
retell some of those going on college tours oh stories
by now, because my kids are in that right now,
being so pressured about college stuff.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you next one. I'll tell you on the Friday.
It's just one story, but it's not a good one, no, okay.
I mean to.
Speaker 2: Remember that they're really pushing right now. The kids should
all be touring and you know they're juniors, but especially
Sadie is just like, oh my god, enough I don't
want to hear about college anymore. That's all I hear about.
So yeah, and Xander's like, yeah, when are you taking
me to see school? And I'm like, bitch, get into
one first and then I will. Because it wasn't a
great for LB to go to all these schools and
then be denied me. So like, let's just wait. Yeah, anyway,
let us say hello to our friends. We have a
guest by the way for Friday lead Deal, Stacy Garcia,
and she has a podcast that Calin is producing it.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm doing a new podcast with her called Never
miss a Monday, which it started out as a kind
of like a motivational meditation, health and fitness podcast, which
is what she wanted to start to do. But when
she was developing it, she got breast cancer, right, so
a lot of her I mean obviously that sidetracktor And
so she now talks about dealing with breast cancer and
telling her kids about it and her husband and that's
all kind of mixed in with you know, how to
overcome that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has two little kids.
Speaker 2: I can't wait, yeah to talk to her, but also
I want to say hi to our our people. Stephanie
Stingernker and Athena Ginchard. We love your dancing. And Sandra,
it's not easy being green.
Speaker 1: Do you do it?
Speaker 2: Jennifer, get up? Aaron is a dirty Sanchez God, I
love saying that. Leslie's stop with the coughing. What do
you are you going to close your veterinarian office? Oh
that's a that's a little nod to our patreon right
this week where I told a story about the vet.
Let's just say.
Speaker 1: Kelly Brandt, she's not your aunt, but she'll take you
to plan parry the vet. Yeah she will. Rebecca, no
one is so cute. Shan Foshwa He's so hot. Missy
and Gabby they were at their feet Stay yes, Hilary
feet sellers, feat Sellers.
Speaker 2: Katerina, check that moller out, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick kitts it
out of the park, Polly, We love your pancakes. Rita's
rocking that bassiet with Elizabeth Williamson's nude. She just had
a baby. Mm hmm, nikk you call your girl. Katie's
rolling on e leash. She's not stoned. Kelly, Laddie Dot
and Dick is frolicking and also our friend Christa Stroup
is giving her shout to her friend Sarah, who lost
her son to suicide he was only twenty one, and
started a project called the Chase Hailey Project. So go
to Chase Haley Project dot com.
Speaker 1: And check it out.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's getting to be that time. Act Yeah is
coming up. And our friend Laurie Bishop's son developed an
ACT test prep guide. It's called Better Test Prep. Check
it out on Instagram. That's the easiest way to find it.
Speaker 1: Better dot Test dot Prep.
Speaker 2: And my friend I will not say her name because
it's a it's a very anonymous account on Medium because
she tells a lot of really personal stories. But go
to medium dot com at Unbecoming Stories and check out
some of my friends writing Family Skeptical. It's a podcast
about raising kids with no religion. You don't need to
be religious to enjoy this podcast, and you know it
will help you. The Family Skeptical. Go if you're in
Palm Springs or Palm Desert, why not go to Wilma
and Frieda and eat some fucking delicious salmon del don't
don't not do that. And also to our friend Becky
Barris Basic Becky on Facebook, she makes t shirts, mousepads. Yeah,
somebody on our Facebook page was saying they wanted a
T shirt with Elon Musk that says he doesn't even
go here. That's cute, right, I wear that shirt. So
Becky is we I tagged her and she's going to
make those shirts.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, that's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you're on the island of Kawhi, go to Sugar Skull.
That's our friend Maren's Bakery gift shop. Yeah, it's called
Sugar Skull. If you want to see their website, go
to Sugar Skull eight oh eight dot square dot site.
If you're going to plan a trip, why not go
to why Not Use Waves and Wonder Travel. That's our
friend Christine Blacks Company, and the Instagram is Travel with
Christine b Check that out. My friend and your friend,
Jacob Crowley is very growley and adorable and he's giving
his shout to the ACLU also HRC, which is the
Human Rights Campaign. But we really ACLU is doing a
lot of heavy lifting right now in these political times.
So if you can spare any amount of money to
the ACLU, please do it.
Speaker 1: And every week we do.
Speaker 2: Adam Lerner Adam's Got a Car dot com he's been
helping so many people from FCOL. So if you need
to buy a car, get a car that's used, get
a car that's new, Lisa Car, buy it straight out.
Let Adam help you. Just go to Adam's got a car,
contact him and say you're FCOL person.
Speaker 1: He'll hook you. I'll and then our.
Speaker 2: Friend Laura Wingfield is helping her friend OSCARS Queer Youth
Resource in Vancouver, Washington. Here is the website to go
check out q y RC Vancouver, Wa dot org. Queer
Youth Resource Center, Vancouver, Washington dot org. And it's a
great resource for queer youth.
Speaker 1: So to that all right, I'll do the rest.
Speaker 2: Of them on our next show. Thanks everybody, We love
you guys. Thanks del If you're a parent, don't f
it up.
Speaker 1: It's good. Let angle