WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see somethings going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:22.719 What help? 4 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.039 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. 5 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.320 This episode, we got a very special guest, somebody I've 6 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:32.320 been looking to get on this show for a minute 7 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:34.520 now and I was finally able to make it happen. 8 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.280 But before we introduced the guests, let me introduce the 9 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.759 other rejects on the show. We got my man, the 10 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:41.359 Headless Giant. What is going on? 11 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:42.119 Sir? How are you? 12 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:43.840 How you doing? 13 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.320 You can find me at the Headless Giant on Twitter 14 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.759 and on YouTube and on Instagram as well. And if 15 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:54.960 you have any occult slash, esoteric, slash, strange, dream slash 16 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.280 encounter stories, you can send them to my email at 17 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:02.399 the Headless Giant podcast and and we will read those 18 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:05.879 on Thursday tomorrow with my co host Nick. And also 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.680 I've got the trialogue on Sunday with Ethan, so definitely 20 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:11.439 check those out. 21 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.159 Awesome you're still doing that with Ricardo. 22 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:17.599 Too, Well, he's uh, he's sort of going around the 23 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:20.920 country right now from conference to conference, so it's kind 24 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:21.799 of hard for him to check in. 25 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.439 So gotcha, gotcha? I forgot about that? Uh all right? 26 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.560 Yeah, And definitely send in the If you send in 27 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.920 any stories, leave an address and I'll send you out 28 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.760 some free stickers. We were supposed to have a guest tomorrow, 29 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:34.719 but I don't know this crazy cat lady hasn't. 30 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:36.280 Hit me back, so who the fuck knows? 31 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.840 So all right, we'll see what happens tomorrow, but definitely 32 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.879 check it out. And next my man Tyrone, what is 33 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:43.200 going on? 34 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:43.439 Sir? 35 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:46.040 What's up everybody? 36 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:46.200 You know? 37 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:50.519 First of all, I got to say by headless Giants art, 38 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.680 you'll get your shit right now. Sew that off right 39 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.040 now in Ethan's book, Get his book, because I support 40 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.359 both of them and what they do. Ben in his podcast, Yo, 41 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:00.519 I love your background when it says it so type, bro, 42 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.200 I gotta set minds up better than that. Bro. 43 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:03.959 Your cit is really nice. 44 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.959 And nice to meet you, Michael. I appreciate it of 45 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.560 being here today to get this knowledge from you. Thank 46 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:10.759 you for everything. Nick, you the man you I always 47 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.919 tell you that shit you already you know. Everything you 48 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:14.840 can find on me is on my website Rebirth of 49 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.639 theWord dot com head Let's just showed you his pictures. 50 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:19.879 I'm going to buy one when I go to the 51 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.560 fort Myers Convention with mich and to Florida just in 52 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:25.680 the next few days. 53 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:27.560 So just support everybody. 54 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.159 Everything you can find on me, like I said, it 55 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.080 is on my website, Rebirth of theWord dot com. I 56 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.000 wrote a best selling book, Journey through the Origins of History. 57 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.240 Please support that. Look, if you don't want to buy 58 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.879 the book, just go to my website. I literally share 59 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:41.560 damnly everything that I wrote in my book on my website. 60 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.520 But eventually one day my website is not going to 61 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.919 be there, so my book has ane being. So you 62 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.039 always have a continued of knowledge. Thank you, appreciate everything. 63 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:49.280 Max. 64 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.280 You got that ICEBN great stuff. No, thank you, Shu, 65 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.879 and we got our man, Ethan Indigo, what is going on? 66 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.800 Well, I'm rocking the Hell Island Rainbow edition of the 67 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:02.080 Colt Rejects. 68 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:02.280 Hell. 69 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.199 Yeah, sure, appreciate you. 70 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.960 Nick, you're the man, Tyrone said, and yeah, definitely. 71 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:15.080 Check book and uh Headless's paintings are are are incredible, 72 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.159 and yeah Bennett, big fan, Michael, I'm really excited to 73 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.759 be here, and yeah, I'm easy to find on all 74 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:26.879 the social media and yeah, props. 75 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:27.120 So very glad you can make it. 76 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.479 Ethan, I was happy to see you one today and last, 77 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:30.719 but not at least before we get to the guest. 78 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:32.080 We got Benny. What is going on? 79 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:37.240 Yeah, hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Nick Headless, 80 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.599 Tyrone Ethan go check him out. Their stuff is great. Michael, 81 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:49.560 huge fan. I got some questions for you, So I'm ready. 82 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:54.000 I appreciate it. Check me out at broadcasting seeds dot com. 83 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.039 Awesome, Awesome, I'm really glad. 84 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:57.879 I was happy to know when two people were like, 85 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.360 oh my god, I love that guy's stuff, I was like, ohat, Like, 86 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.080 I'm actually giving you a guest you want to talk to. 87 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:04.439 So I'm very happy about that. 88 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.080 Real quick before we get to Michael, though, because I'll 89 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.000 forget and I'll mention it at the end and everybody 90 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.159 will shut it off. By then December and December October eighteenth, 91 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.000 fort Myers Charlie's Beyond Belief, Me and Tyrone will be 92 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:19.199 there in Florida with a booth, and Brook from Dark 93 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:22.000 Florida and the Occult Rejects will be speaking at that event. 94 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.319 And then the twenty fifth and twenty sixth I will 95 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.040 be at Arkansas and I will have a boot there. 96 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.240 It's a two day event at. 97 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.720 A museum, two levels, tons of shit going on, tons 98 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:31.360 of stuff there. 99 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:33.160 Definitely check out that one if you can. 100 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.920 I will have I'll have Headless's art facale, and I 101 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.240 will have our T shirts. So check it out. And 102 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.079 Tyrone will be at one of them. He'll have the 103 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:42.399 books and if he wants to leave me and he'll 104 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.680 take some of the Arkansas. So come and check us out. Finally, 105 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.279 after all that, we got Michael Collins Wandering Wolf Productions. 106 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.079 What is going on, sir? Please let everybody know who 107 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:52.680 the hell you are. 108 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.959 Well, first, thank you guys so much for having me here. 109 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.800 By the way, you guys have some pretty six swag there. 110 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.160 I saw a coffee mug, I see a T shirt 111 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:04.360 kind of going on. 112 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:07.120 Man, the coffee bugs are actually those Those are gifts 113 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:08.480 that I send out to the people on the show. 114 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:09.560 But the shirts are available. 115 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:10.839 I love it. 116 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:11.160 Thank you. 117 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:17.360 That's awesome. I Mike with Wondering Wolf Productions. I basically 118 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:21.399 travel around the world filming ancient sites. I like to 119 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.079 focus on sites that are maybe less known. I mean 120 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:27.920 all the big sites and stuff too, but I go 121 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.720 to places that are maybe a little less known. I 122 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.720 love getting out and adventuring around and stuff. I do 123 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.879 have a conference coming up. I run tours too. The 124 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:41.079 conference is December in Scottsdale. This is going to be 125 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.800 a big one. We've got a stellar lineup. Jimmy Corsetti 126 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:50.319 AJ from the Wi Files, David Hatcher, Childress, Gary Buschler 127 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.759 from their Grotic Golly, Michael Button, Dan Richards who you 128 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.759 just had on. Yes, bunch a bunch of big names. 129 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:00.759 It's going to be an awesome event, and yours truly. 130 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.000 I'll be there as well, so I hope to see 131 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.639 everybody there. It's going to be an awesome event. Scottsdale, 132 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.480 December fifth through the seventh. That's this December, so coming 133 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.480 up quick. Got to grab your tickets because they're gone fast. 134 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.399 So we got we got a good prices on those tickets. 135 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.560 You can come for three days for two fifty. 136 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.759 Oh sure, okay, yeah, I actually got to talk to 137 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:23.199 you about that. 138 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:27.839 They're tears, so yeah, so jump on them now. Yeah, 139 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.720 And I'll drop the link to my website in the chat, 140 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:33.680 so if people want to check that out, they can 141 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.959 hit that go to the website. They can also see 142 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:40.000 the events and different stuff that is, like tours and 143 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:41.720 stuff that are going on and I got a book 144 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:44.480 coming out too nice. So I got a book I'm 145 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.000 dropping in a few months here, probably before the end 146 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:47.399 of the year. 147 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.360 That's all. Some nice books are always great. Yeah, I know. 148 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.480 I don't know if Mike and Dave, but I think 149 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:57.319 Mike and Britney from Mike and Dave's Multiverse are going 150 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:58.079 to your show. 151 00:06:58.439 --> 00:06:59.920 You're going to that thing coming up, and there are 152 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:01.199 bugging me about going solo. 153 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:01.800 I am. 154 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.959 I am thinking about it. I am thinking about it again. 155 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:08.519 I'll talk to you after the show. I really would 156 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:09.959 like to see about a boot So if you I'll 157 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.480 talk to you about that one you talk about it 158 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:11.839 on the show. 159 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.439 Perfect, Yeah, yeah, well yeah, let's talk after that because 160 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.160 we could. We can hook it up. 161 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.399 We try something up. All right, funk, Where was I 162 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:19.920 going with this? 163 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.879 I was gonna ask you, all right, so what was it? 164 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.480 I guess where did you start? 165 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:26.639 Like? 166 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:28.000 How was it like all of a sudden, You're like 167 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:29.879 I'm going to start going out and looking at stuff 168 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.360 like like like when did that creep up in your 169 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.040 head have become a passion? 170 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:40.800 Yeah, man, I'll give you the kind of give you 171 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:42.800 the PG version. I guess if you guys want more, 172 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.000 you can ask. I was working in sales. 173 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.319 I want the rated R version rated R. 174 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:54.040 I uh. I was working in sales for like twelve years. 175 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.639 I'm ex military. I got out. I ended up in 176 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.560 and doing a sales shop. I was just miserable. I'm 177 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:02.959 not the kind of person that could just work for 178 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:08.000 a paycheck. I need a purpose, right So, and you know, 179 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:10.680 I was really at a low point in my life. 180 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.959 I was pretty heavily addicted to drugs. This is in 181 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:17.959 my early thirties, mid thirties, and I think, you know, 182 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.439 there's just something came over me that was like, what 183 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.160 are you doing? You know, I was looking at other 184 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:29.240 people in my profession and that were older than me, 185 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.039 and I was like, is this what you want? Is 186 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.440 this where you're going? And I'd been into all, you know, 187 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.240 I was serving in the military during nine to eleven, 188 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.480 so there was a lot of things that I was 189 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.080 witnessed to behind the scene in terms of you know, 190 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:49.120 the military, the government, how things work, what's really going on. 191 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.360 They were pushing anthrax vaccines back then, all sorts of stuff. 192 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.200 So it was like, you know, you know version one. 193 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:57.840 Are they trying to tell you you're going to be exposed 194 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:59.320 to anthraxs. That's where they want to give it to you. 195 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:00.879 Like, what's that? 196 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.559 Were they trying to tell you might be exposed anthracks? 197 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:04.679 So that's why we want to give you this. 198 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.440 Like yeah, and they were trying to make me do 199 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:09.399 the anthrax vaccent. 200 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:09.600 Yo. 201 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.960 Let me ask you, Michael, how many shots did you get? 202 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:17.480 So when I joined in basic, I went down a 203 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.360 hallway with like six nurses or something on both sides 204 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.879 just hitting me in both shoulder step up, shoulder step. 205 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.240 I don't even know what I was getting. 206 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:28.759 And I was so young, at least twenty bro. 207 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.879 Yeah, and I was so young, I didn't even have the. 208 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:34.039 Yeah you have. 209 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.519 You didn't have the knowledge to fight back again. And 210 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.240 that's that's interesting that you brought that up, because anthrax 211 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:40.639 was a fucked up thing at that time. 212 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:45.759 Yo. Yeah, it was yeah, and Andy. By the time 213 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.679 I was getting out, they were pushing that. I was like, no, 214 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.519 I'm not doing that, you know, just from the experience 215 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.799 that we just talked about from when I joined. But yeah, 216 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.240 getting a look behind the curtain wash you know how 217 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.159 things run and how how they you know, how things 218 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:06.440 like the real the way the machine really works. And 219 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.559 so you know, flash forward to again back in my 220 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.440 in my thirties. You know, I was at this really 221 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.720 low point and I just kind of something came over 222 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:19.240 to me. It was like, you could just quit. You're 223 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:25.320 miserable here. You could just quit and then you can't 224 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.679 get any things couldn't get any worse than where they 225 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:28.399 were at for me. 226 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.200 So like even starting over, it's like I'm not fucking nothing. 227 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:40.240 Yeah did it? Nothing mattered anymore. So I I ended 228 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.600 up quitting within two weeks. I was sober, and I 229 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:47.399 started traveling and I ended up at Sachs and Mouman. 230 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:49.759 And as soon as I went to that site and 231 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.120 put my hands on those stumps, I just I knew 232 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.200 immediately that this is what I wanted to do. And 233 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.399 I haven't stopped traveling since. I just made it work. 234 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.240 I didn't know, I didn't have any experience. I'm still 235 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.759 not good at what I do is the filming and stuff. 236 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.039 There's you know, but I just decided not to quit. 237 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.120 And that's all I've been doing for ten years now. 238 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.799 It's like not quitting. I got a little better at 239 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.440 some things, but never quit. Here we are. 240 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:21.759 You leave in a mark on this planet. And I 241 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:23.440 say this all the time, or I say this to 242 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.720 so many people. You die twice on this planet. You 243 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.159 die once when you're physically gone, when your body's no more, 244 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:31.919 you died a second side when nobody mentions your name. 245 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:33.240 So keep doing what you're doing. 246 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.600 I appreciate that the way to stay at God. 247 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.200 Yeah, and so you know, the last ten years have 248 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.799 just kind of taken me all over the world. It's 249 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.159 I have any anywhere and everywhere that I thought might 250 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.960 interest me I've just immediately just said yes to and gone. 251 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:55.639 Things are getting a little more professional these days, I 252 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:56.960 guess you would say the last year. 253 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.200 Oh yeah, I could say just from listening to this 254 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.480 show from the exception till now, you're like, what the 255 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.639 fuck happened is totally different. Even I'm totally different. I mean, 256 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.360 I guess just with age I calm down or something. 257 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.399 I don't know, but you know, I can see what 258 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.159 you're saying. Like I've even tried to step up and 259 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.919 try to you know, you know, figure out the fucking 260 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.000 shit I'm actually using. You know, maybe I'll actually watch 261 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.200 them tutorials on my equipment at this point. 262 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.240 Yeah, yeah, but actual adult about it. 263 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.320 Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so like maybe I'll 264 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.679 actually read the instructions before I put the table together. 265 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.000 Yeah, it's leveling up. And like, bro, you leveling up. 266 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.120 You know if you if you're the same person when 267 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.399 you was twenty years old, then you a problem. Problem. 268 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.759 Yeah yeah, yeah, totally right. 269 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:39.440 They say that too. 270 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.840 If you get into occultism or like witchcraft the magic, 271 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.919 if you're thinking and beliefs that the same way at 272 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.360 the beginning where you are now, you're doing fucking something 273 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.759 wrong because that shiit should always be evolving and changing 274 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:49.679 or growing at least. 275 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:51.440 But yeah, I hear what you're saying. 276 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.919 I guess, Michael, if you don't mind, unless anybody else 277 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.240 has any questions right now, I'm just wanting to ask you. 278 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.799 I guess, uh, which which which spot was the one 279 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:01.600 that popped to cherry? 280 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.240 You know where you went for I guess your first 281 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:05.840 spot to kind of get into all. 282 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.200 This Peru sexually my mom was that first spot that 283 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.080 I hit. And then you know, when I was there, 284 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:18.759 I did Manchu Pichu and you know, all the main 285 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:23.840 stuff there in Peru, and then after that it was 286 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.679 just kind of a whirlwind for several years of just 287 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:36.600 traveling anywhere and everywhere. You know, I me'd be here. 288 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.480 It take the whole time for me to tell you 289 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:42.440 all the places. I mean, its hundreds and hundreds of 290 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.639 ancient sites that I visited around the world. You know, 291 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:51.879 I think I'm somewhere The channel logo says two hundred, 292 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.240 but I think when I sit down and count, and 293 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:57.600 I think I'm over at three somewhere, at three fifty 294 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:02.000 plus ancient sites visited. I don't know anymore. I'd have 295 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.519 to sit down and look at it. So it's been 296 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.399 all over the world, and God, it's been fascinating. That's 297 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:16.399 given me a perspective on you know, kind of this, 298 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:23.399 this perspective on on on these sites and and the 299 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.759 idea of them. A lot of this, these things being 300 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:33.519 interconnected from all the different types of similarities, not not 301 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:43.120 even similarities sometimes exact you know, types of constructions and 302 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.679 stone working and and everything from mythology and legend and 303 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:53.919 folklore and too, you know, ancient works and stone working 304 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:59.440 and styles and stuff, symbolism and everything. It's given me 305 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.519 quite a quite a look by in effect. And then 306 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:06.320 you know that is also kind of especially over the 307 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:10.080 last year given me a perspective similar to what I 308 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.559 described about being in the army, getting a look behind 309 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:17.879 the curtain of how these sites are managed and reconstructed 310 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:22.080 around the world, which has been this year has been 311 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.759 interesting more than any other year. This year has really 312 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.720 kind of you know, honestly, it was a little bit 313 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.279 of a blow. It was a little depressing and discouraging 314 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:38.080 for a bit once I realized the extent of the 315 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:43.320 process is involved in reconstructing sites around the world, and 316 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:45.720 I kind of had to sit with that for months 317 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.320 and months to like kind of find my passion again 318 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.240 and not be so bummed out about it, you know. 319 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:53.679 You know, I went over to Turkey with Jimmy exposed 320 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.519 all the trees and different stuff over there, and that 321 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.440 was big news for a while, and that put me 322 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.919 in the crosshairs of the archaeologis community and it kind 323 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.320 of made me double down and start exposing more. I 324 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.320 put out a video Exposing Archaeology or Archaeology Exposed, and 325 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.759 that videos basically I took shots from the last ten 326 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:19.240 years of me traveling around the world, just showing these 327 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:24.519 examples of some of the bad practices going on that 328 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.440 are just like the stone working and things. These ancient 329 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.879 stone workings are very similar. Also, the way these sites 330 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.279 are being managed and handled and reconstructed are also similar. 331 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.799 So you know, you see the same type of things 332 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.759 going on in Turkey that you do in Central and 333 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:44.559 South America. 334 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:49.000 Michael, all of these all of these mngos really interested 335 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.879 in taking control over these sites. Yeah, hopefully go Becky, 336 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.200 Teppy and other places. It seems like they're trying to 337 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.559 make this sort of entertainment industry out of these sites. 338 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:04.279 Oh yeah, actually doing any kind of digging or explanation 339 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:05.440 of any of this stuff. 340 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.759 And that's the depressing part. It's big business. So heritage 341 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.799 tourism right now sits it somewhere, which is what this is, 342 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.799 sits it somewhere over five hundred billion dollars, right that's 343 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:21.759 projected to grow in the next by twenty thirty one 344 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.759 thirty two, that's expected to be somewhere up close to 345 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.000 eight hundred billion, and in ten, in less than ten years, 346 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:33.319 it'll be a trillion dollar a year industry. So you know, 347 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.680 when these archaeologists and different people argue and say that, 348 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:39.759 you know, the powers that be that are running all 349 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.160 these sites, I always, you know, always have the best 350 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.920 interest of the site in mind in terms of history discovery, 351 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.279 and it's just bullshit, It's comical. I can't even take 352 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.640 that type of argument seriously. We're talking about an like 353 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:57.079 an insane amount of money, an absolutely insane amount of money. 354 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.200 This is a bigger industry than you know. I mean 355 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.079 this that puts it in one of the top industries 356 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.599 in the entire world as heritage tourism. So it's big 357 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:18.240 money and places are regularly faked built up, and you 358 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:26.680 know it's uh yeah, it's all in Mexico, man, you 359 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.000 know that it really sucks, you know, because I love 360 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.880 Central South American I love visiting these sites. But yeah, 361 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:35.599 I mean Tatocon that's a pile of concrete. I mean 362 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.799 it's completely covered in concrete. That's all concrete. Cheecha, that's concrete. 363 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.640 All these sites I just was in Guatemala to call 364 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.960 they're completely on site rebuilding stones that they're making out 365 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.200 of concrete and reshaping these pyramids. So they're not excavating 366 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:57.559 the pyramids, they're just covering them in concrete, concrete blocks, 367 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:02.880 concrete stones, trees, and so they build around them. And 368 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.640 so it looked after a year, all those that concrete 369 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.599 and those stones and stuff. Sometimes they're shaping them with 370 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.119 line and lines, but you know, making lines of but 371 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.319 don't leave the trees in them. So in a year, 372 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:18.720 those stones won't be white anymore. They'll be all dirty 373 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:23.240 and overgrown with moss and stuff, and they'll look old, 374 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:28.519 and then you have trees sticking out of them. The 375 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.599 average person can't can't tell the difference. 376 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:32.400 Right man. 377 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:33.680 I ask you a question, Michael. 378 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:38.359 Yeah, you brought up go Beckley type and that's very interesting. 379 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:40.319 You know, you brought up Jimmy Corsetti an idea of 380 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.720 the trees and you know what is destroying underneath and 381 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.000 stuff like that. Do you think that Jimmy Corsetti could 382 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.920 use a little bit more help and representation to get 383 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:54.319 this ship fixed and resolved rather than being solo. Because 384 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:56.880 the reason and one of the reasons why I access 385 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.160 because you are you are an announce. You enunciated the 386 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.319 amount of money that it takes for people to do 387 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:05.880 stuff like this. Now, Jimmy Corse said, he is only 388 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:08.599 one person. You're only one person. As two people, if 389 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.240 we have a group of individuals that work together, do 390 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:13.519 you think that it would be more prominent for these 391 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:16.880 individuals to take a serious one idea of destruction from 392 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.079 go back to Tepe or do you think that these 393 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.759 individuals are only waiting for somebody to with big money 394 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:23.599 to sit there and step on their toes and be like, look, 395 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:24.880 you need to fix this shit today. 396 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.920 It's tough. I don't know how you go to head 397 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:32.279 head to head with you know, multinational corporations and stuff 398 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.160 that are running and stuff. I think Jimmy's a one 399 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:38.279 man army. He's fucking rocking it, dude, and he's holding 400 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:40.599 them people account and he's been going hard for the 401 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.559