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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>So Dan Capless is knee deep in depositions or something

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<v Speaker 2>to that effect. That means you're stuck with me and

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<v Speaker 2>the alluring Kelly Kacheriff I may use that adjective not

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<v Speaker 2>sure she hasn't approved it, so I'm go I have

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<v Speaker 2>to check with her. Ryan schuling with you. The Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Capliss Pregame Show continues extended edition for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>and Fort Collins and all points in between and around.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you tuning in on this Tuesday edition as

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<v Speaker 2>we sprint toward the finish of the month of July.

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<v Speaker 3>In August, what does it hold?

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<v Speaker 2>While the Democratic National Convention is coming up that'll start

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday the nineteenth, where presumably Vice President Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>will be named an anointed the official nominee of a

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic party that did not hold a vote with her

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 3>She did not win a single.

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<v Speaker 2>Delegate, but the powers that be, the elites within the party,

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<v Speaker 2>they have come down from on high and determined that

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<v Speaker 2>she will be their nominee for President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always send your text throughout today's program five seven, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>three nine, start those Dan. You can also call us

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I just had Kelly reach out to my good

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<v Speaker 2>friend Danielle Jirinsky. She is a member of the City

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<v Speaker 2>Council for Aurora, and there have been some troubling developments

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<v Speaker 2>in the city of Aurora over these last forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>hours or so. Danielle posted this at just after ten

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<v Speaker 2>am yesterday, and we've reached out to her to appear

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<v Speaker 2>on the program. We're hoping at the bottom of this

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<v Speaker 2>hour and Dan maybe back by then as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just read you the post. All right, Kelly, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you got breaking news?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan will be joining us at five.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan will be joining us at five. Yes, what about Danielle?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have any all right, Well, she might have

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<v Speaker 2>heard me right now, So Bat signals out for Danielle Jurinsky,

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<v Speaker 2>and she posted the following quote to the people of Aurora.

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to know the severity of and the

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<v Speaker 2>flat out truth about what is going on in Aurora.

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<v Speaker 2>The media won't make a big deal about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to downplay it. Some of my own colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>would probably even tell you there's nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, from roughly six pm to eleven PM, the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Aurora was taken over at the intersection of

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi and Havana. You will see that Venezuelan flags are flying.

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<v Speaker 2>The shopping centers were invaded, and cars trapped in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets were shut down. There are reports of assaults, theft,

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<v Speaker 2>and gunshots in the air. I have not heard of

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<v Speaker 2>any reported deaths. I am told that these folks were

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<v Speaker 2>quote celebrating unquote the loss of the current Venezuelan leader,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be Nicholas Maduro. But a lot is, of

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<v Speaker 2>course transpired in the time since he has arrested control

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<v Speaker 2>of set election, rigged it in his own favor. The

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<v Speaker 2>people are revolting, and I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>tip on whether or not the military supports the people

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<v Speaker 2>in their uprising and the revolution against Maduro, or that

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<v Speaker 2>they serve as the strong arm of Maduro against those revolting, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That could get very ugly, very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Continuing now with Danielle Jorinsky's post about Aurora and the

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuelans therein quote, thousands of these folks took over and

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<v Speaker 2>completely shut down a part of our city. The police

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<v Speaker 2>were totally overrun and we're forced to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>the area for their safety.

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<v Speaker 3>A police car was shot up. This is the United

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<v Speaker 3>States of America. This is in your city. Please please

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<v Speaker 3>spread the word. This November's election.

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<v Speaker 2>May in fact be the actual most important of your lives,

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<v Speaker 2>your children's lives, and your grandchildren's lives. Again, you all

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<v Speaker 2>deserve the truth. I have included multiple photos and emails

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<v Speaker 2>that came in, and I'll do my best to describe these,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know you can't see them listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I see a big kind of conglomeration of cars. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks to be like a tailgating tent. There are people

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<v Speaker 2>in and around and on said vehicles in this parking lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe actually this is a street that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a parking lot if not mistaken. A couple other

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<v Speaker 2>photos here looks to be some definite damage to some cars,

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<v Speaker 2>windows busted out and so forth. An overhead shot here,

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty clear one by Danielle that shows a road

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<v Speaker 2>basically is to her point, shut down. And what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get at, what I hope we can ask

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle about, is what is the why behind this? If

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<v Speaker 2>the Venezuelans that are here we're fleeing Nicholas Maduro and

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<v Speaker 2>that common regime, well, that, in my view, is a

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<v Speaker 2>viable claim for asylum. It is the reason why Cuban

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have come here in the past. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why my mother and her parents came here fleeing

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<v Speaker 2>from the communist dictator Tito in Yugoslavia nineteen fifty. Fleeing

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<v Speaker 2>a communist regime and a dictatorship, whether it's China or

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<v Speaker 2>the former Soviet Union, is a valid claim for asylum. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my opinion, and that's my view, and that's usually

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<v Speaker 2>what the United States has done. So if you come

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<v Speaker 2>here from Venezuela, the presumption would be that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want any part of what the regime in charge Maduro

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<v Speaker 2>was doing in that communist dictatorship, which restricted the rights

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<v Speaker 2>of individuals to the point now where he's basically willing

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<v Speaker 2>to overturn the results of a fraudulent election in which

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<v Speaker 2>he was trailing. It would appear by thirty points based

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<v Speaker 2>on exit polls in that country where at least the

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<v Speaker 2>people tried to speak up and speak out and through

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<v Speaker 2>the peaceful process of the vote of the ballot box,

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<v Speaker 2>houst a communist dictator, which I don't know that that's

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<v Speaker 2>ever been done. I don't even know why they're staging

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<v Speaker 2>these elections when I think we know going in that

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<v Speaker 3>To be rigged.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what communist regimes do, That's what Fidel Castro did

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<v Speaker 2>in Cuba, That's what the Soviet Union did. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the famous quote from Joseph Stalin, it's not who votes,

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<v Speaker 2>but who counts the votes. And so I'm very curious

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<v Speaker 2>as to why the Venezuelans that are here, who I welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>if they want to assimilate, become Americans, speak our language,

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<v Speaker 2>adhere to our culture and customs, and embrace the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Legal Venezuelan immigrants, I think, have every opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 2>here and make the most of that life if they

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<v Speaker 2>contribute to our society and play by the rules and

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<v Speaker 2>follow our immigration laws. All of that notwithstanding, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many of these gathered that came here legally

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<v Speaker 2>illegally circumvented the process. But it goes back to my

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<v Speaker 2>central point that I've made for many months and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even years now, and that is, if your first act

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<v Speaker 2>as a person entering our country is to break and

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<v Speaker 2>disregard our laws on immigration, what motivation or incentive is

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<v Speaker 2>there for you to follow any of our laws. So

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<v Speaker 2>what we see here in this gathering is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of lawlessness, disrespect for the rule of law, for order

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<v Speaker 2>in a community Aurora that you should be embracing. And

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<v Speaker 2>again this is important assimilating too. It doesn't mean you

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<v Speaker 2>cut ties to all of your heritage. I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 2>of my Serbian heritage and my grandparents coming here. But

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<v Speaker 2>when they came here, they wanted to be Americans. They

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<v Speaker 2>came here for a reason. It wasn't just to transplant

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<v Speaker 2>themselves recreate a Yugoslavian culture here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a different time, however, and what my grandfather

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<v Speaker 2>had to do as he improved his English, and he

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<v Speaker 2>spoke very good English. As a matter of fact was

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<v Speaker 2>fined in the city of Saint Louis, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>many of these same kinds of experiences in Chicago, in

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<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh, throughout the Upper Midwest where a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Serbs settled, working class, blue collar automotive industry. And my

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<v Speaker 2>grandfather worked at Anheuser Bush at least during the winters

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<v Speaker 2>when he wasn't running his farm in southern Illinois, but

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<v Speaker 2>there were Serbian Orthodox churches that you would gather, and

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<v Speaker 2>in that environment, you're all kind of looking out for

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<v Speaker 2>each other. And there was an element of this to

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<v Speaker 2>many ethnic groups that came over to the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was the Irish in New York City or

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<v Speaker 2>the Italians in New York City, and then throughout this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's beautiful and a wonderful thing in

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<v Speaker 2>a melting pot that America is, and that we have

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<v Speaker 2>all embraced and we should when people come here and

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<v Speaker 2>they want to contribute maybe something from their own culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And we see so many great ethnic restaurants around here

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<v Speaker 2>for that very reason. But the bottom line is, again,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not just separating yourself from your former country and

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<v Speaker 2>then recreating it here. You are an American now. You

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<v Speaker 2>live in the United States, that should mean something to

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<v Speaker 2>you and you should want to contribute to the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the Venezuelans gather here, and I have no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt that their celebratory and enthused about the potential of

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<v Speaker 2>Maduro being deposed, But you really contradict your whole ethos

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<v Speaker 2>and process here by creating disturbances in the streets shooting

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<v Speaker 2>a gun off in the air. This is completely unacceptable

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<v Speaker 2>and reckless behavior. So I want to kind of sort

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<v Speaker 2>through this and acknowledge that the Venezuelans, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in good faith and interests, were just jubulant about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that maybe their home country was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of a communist dictator.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great, But the means and the method here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's in question of what is going on and

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<v Speaker 2>where are the Aurora police. I'd like to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Mike Kaufman on this as well. John Fabricatory had

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<v Speaker 2>a tweet about this, and I talked to him earlier

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<v Speaker 2>about a different subject, but I want to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to him about this as well. I'll read that for

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<v Speaker 2>you when we come back. Your thoughts on it. In addition,

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<v Speaker 2>five seven seventy three nine start those texts. Dan call

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<v Speaker 3>After this and now back to the Dan capliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>The Klan was what we would call today a domestic

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<v Speaker 5>terrorist group.

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<v Speaker 6>Why why would we call them domestic terrorist group?

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<v Speaker 5>Because they tried to use fear and forced to change

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<v Speaker 5>political environment?

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<v Speaker 6>And what was the motivation for the use of fear.

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<v Speaker 5>And force based on race and ethnicity? Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you aware of the perception of many about how

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<v Speaker 6>the power and the discretion at ICE is being used

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<v Speaker 6>to enforce the laws? And do you see any parallels.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not see any parallels between I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about perception.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally

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<v Speaker 6>Are you aware that there's a perception No, Are you

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<v Speaker 6>aware that there's a perception.

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<v Speaker 5>ICE in the same category as the KKK.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you aware, Vice President Harris, that there's a perception

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<v Speaker 2>that you have done literally nothing to help with the

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<v Speaker 2>border crisis, with the illegals flooding into our states and cities,

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<v Speaker 2>that sanctuary status has in fact invited illegals to come here,

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<v Speaker 2>despite your lame, weak protestations to the contrary, where you

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<v Speaker 2>That is not effective border policy. And she knows that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a cheap cynical play. This is

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<v Speaker 2>cartoonishly compare ice to the ku Klux Klan, an organization

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<v Speaker 6>So I want to return to the question that Senator

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<v Speaker 3>Ku klux Klan.

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<v Speaker 2>part of that term, the KKK. But again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a serious person. She has breezed through life unseeriously unchallenged, largely,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was her appointment as a local DA, her

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<v Speaker 2>seriously contending in that race. Her appointment as Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>primary in twenty twenty. Think about the least path of

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<v Speaker 2>resistance that this person, Kamala Harris a true embodiment of

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<v Speaker 2>a DEI hire. Because Joe Biden himself said that he

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<v Speaker 2>had a list of four qualified black women to choose

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do that. None of us did that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's DEI at work and in place, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>in large parts she was selected.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about the field. Go back to that. Think about

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty, a vast array of candidates in that

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<v Speaker 2>primary election that Joe Biden would end up winning and

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<v Speaker 2>securing the nomination from there was Pete buddhaj Edge, Bernie Sanders,

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<v Speaker 2>talented people on that side, a lot of whom I

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<v Speaker 3>Buffoonish in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's beside the point that if you were a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot to choose from. But all of

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<v Speaker 2>process for consideration because they didn't check two boxes O

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<v Speaker 2>sensibly black, which Kamala Harris is half Jamaican, half Indian.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that it should matter. I don't think it should matter,

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<v Speaker 2>but it mattered to them. Tulsey Gabbard is Hawaiian native. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not good enough. That's not a powerful enough DEI

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<v Speaker 2>play in the calculation of the Democratic Party. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I will undermine everything about Kamala Harris because we hear

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<v Speaker 2>crap like you just heard from that hearing in November

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, or she insulted anybody having to do with immigration, customs,

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<v Speaker 2>She reduced them to an analogy with the ku Klux Klan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a serious person. I cannot stress that enough.

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<v Speaker 2>if we elect Kamala Harris's president, what we saw over

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<v Speaker 2>the last forty eight to seventy two hours in Aura,

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<v Speaker 2>you can multiply that tenfold because she will have an

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<v Speaker 2>It's got a Gina in Aurora commenting on the riots

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<v Speaker 2>in that very city. Gina will into the program.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, thank you. I just wanted to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>my my girlfriend lives over in that neighborhood, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's walking distance to that target, and she called me

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<v Speaker 7>and was extremely upset. I had no idea what was

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<v Speaker 7>like five hundred people, but it was more like four

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<v Speaker 7>or five thousand people. She said the next day that

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<v Speaker 7>the Target parking lot was completely trushed and the Target

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<v Speaker 7>employees were out there trying to clean it up, and

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<v Speaker 7>actually people from the neighborhood came to help them clean.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, they had to shut down the store. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>people that maybe needed to get their medication couldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>There's nothing mentioned on the APD website, nothing really, not

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<v Speaker 7>much mentioned at all on social media except for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Fabricatory, That's correct.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we're the only two that I've really seen anybody,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, saying anything. I am just absolutely disgusted. My

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<v Speaker 7>not blown up. And then to just sit back and again,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, do we have another Vanessa Wilson chief of

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<v Speaker 7>the buck stops with her. The mayor is a is

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<v Speaker 7>not a strong mayor in Aurora. He is a tiebreaker vote.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, I don't know if we can really

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<v Speaker 7>blame anything on him, but I blame the chief of police.

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<v Speaker 2>Gina very well said thank you so much for that

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<v Speaker 2>and that she is in Aurora. Gina, I appreciate your

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<v Speaker 2>first hands perspective, especially from your friend. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>hit this hard break here and Danielle Jorinski will be

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<v Speaker 2>joining us on the other side. According to Kelly John

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<v Speaker 2>Fabricatory posted on x last night and Aurora, groups of

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuelans took over the streets, block traffic, shot firearms after

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<v Speaker 2>the elections were announced in their country. The reports of assaults, thefts,

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<v Speaker 2>in a police car being shot at. A local Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>from local citizens. That local Aurora consolwoman is Danielle Jerinsky

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that where you're asking me?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm very specific about what I'm asking. Are you

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not finished, I'm not finished. I'm not finished. Are

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<v Speaker 6>you aware that there's a perception that ICE is administering

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<v Speaker 6>its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation,

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<v Speaker 6>particularly among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico

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<v Speaker 6>and Central America. Are you aware of that perception.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not see a parallel between the power and

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<v Speaker 5>the agents and officers who do it professionally and excellently

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<v Speaker 2>If you want more of what has been happening in Aurora,

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<v Speaker 2>then go right ahead and vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>This was from a hearing November twenty eighteen, in which

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Harris, then Senator Harris compared our ICE officers to

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<v Speaker 2>the ku Klux Klan, directly, unabashedly, without hesitation and voice

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<v Speaker 2>concerns that our ICE officers, well, they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Too mean and they might even be racist like the KKK.

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<v Speaker 2>So it stands to reason that there will be an

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<v Speaker 2>avalanche of migrants, immigrants illegals flooding to our border knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that Kamala welcomes them because that is her stated policy position,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has done nothing in her role supposedly as

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<v Speaker 2>borders are or however you wanted to find it, she

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<v Speaker 2>was put in charge of the border, full stop, point blank,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened, no matter what revisionist history.

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<v Speaker 3>The media tries to visit upon it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if she had been a success, they'd be touting

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<v Speaker 2>it from the mountaintops. But she was a failure, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to bury it. But you can't bury what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now in Aurora and joining us now. She's

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<v Speaker 2>her post that drew attention from John Fabricatory, who is

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<v Speaker 2>sixth congressional district Republican against incumbent Democrat Jason Crowe and

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<v Speaker 2>their district encompasses Aurora. Danielle Jerinsky our guest, Danielle, Welcome

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now take us through the post.

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<v Speaker 2>What first happened, how it came to your attention, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So, how it first came to my attention was Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 4>I was putting my son to bed in all of

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<v Speaker 4>us sudden police officers themselves started reaching out to me

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<v Speaker 8>Are you aware of what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what's happening? Multiple officers reached out to me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, what is going on? So they started

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<v Speaker 4>will say I was not personally out there, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think there's enough video footage and pictures to explain what

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<v Speaker 4>happened to include a police car being shot, And there

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<v Speaker 4>is an actual police report number for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff. Some of the media is already trying to

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<v Speaker 4>downplay this. There's actual police report numbers for some of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, following up on that, Danielle, you were saying, rank

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<v Speaker 2>and file Aurora PD officers are reaching out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I find that interesting. And concerning the chief of police,

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<v Speaker 2>there is still how the Morris. She was interim, but

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, she's still interim.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and in that role. What's going on here is

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<v Speaker 2>she made a public comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Of any kind.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as I know, she has not made a

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<v Speaker 4>public comment of any kind. She called me directly yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>and we spoke about the incident and she confirmed that

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<v Speaker 4>one person was graised with a bullet. There was an

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<v Speaker 4>overwhelming amount of theft in the stores in that area,

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<v Speaker 4>that happened. She confirmed the police vehicle, so she called

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<v Speaker 4>and even the city itself is just putting out a

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<v Speaker 4>I decided to make the post that I did, to

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<v Speaker 4>get the attention that it got, because the people of Aurora,

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<v Speaker 4>and quite frankly, the people of Colorado, deserve to know

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<v Speaker 4>the truth that they're not going to get from the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is different media, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Chirinsky joining me Ryan Shulding in temporarily for Dan

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<v Speaker 2>kaplis here today talking about the events in Aurora where

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<v Speaker 2>a large group of Venezuelan nationals gathered to celebrate, ostensibly

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<v Speaker 2>the ousting of Nicholas Maduro, although we know that in

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<v Speaker 2>real time that has not happened to this point, that

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<v Speaker 2>there was an overturning of the election results, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>But it brings me back to the central point here, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 2>What explanation have you gotten.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that there was no permit, and it seems

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<v Speaker 4>that it was spontaneous. Obviously no intel picked this up,

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<v Speaker 4>so it seems like it was spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that vein that you said you had a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with the interim Chief of Police and Aurora, Heather Morris.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the explanation given as to why it was

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to escalate to the point that we're seeing here

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<v Speaker 2>in your post.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I wasn't really given a reason, Ryan, I was

432
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<v Speaker 4>pretty much just told that the situation was being monitored

433
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<v Speaker 4>and that they're reviewing footage drone footage to try and

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<v Speaker 4>identify some of these people that were shooting off into

435
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<v Speaker 4>the air, that shot the cop car, that shot whoever

436
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<v Speaker 4>the civilian is that was grazed by a bullet. I

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<v Speaker 4>was told they are reviewing footage. Mind you, Ryan, they're

438
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<v Speaker 4>reviewing footage of folks that did not enter this country legally.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know how they're going what the plan

440
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<v Speaker 4>is there to place faces names with those faces, But

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<v Speaker 4>I myself am even given very generic answers.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jerinsky our guest.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a member of the Aurora City Council and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to parse through the details here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very confused, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you are too, And maybe some of our

447
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<v Speaker 2>listeners in Aurora are trying to piece this together because

448
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<v Speaker 2>it's very unsettling. And I don't want to impugne members

449
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<v Speaker 2>of Auror REPAD because some of them reached out to

450
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<v Speaker 2>you and I had have to believe they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>this to happen. But they're blocking businesses, they're blocking traffic,

452
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<v Speaker 2>they're firing off weapons.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that the logical.

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<v Speaker 2>End of this would be, at what point does Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>PD step in and stop this madness?

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<v Speaker 3>Again? How did it?

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<v Speaker 2>How did it get to escalate to this point without

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<v Speaker 2>A or rep D at least showing hey, hey, what's

459
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<v Speaker 2>going on here, let's settle down, let's kind of, you know,

460
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<v Speaker 2>keep this in line.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody did that, it appears.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So Interim Chief Heather Morris told me that there were

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<v Speaker 4>forty officers deployed. But the number that I have been given,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not sure how PD put this together. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it is the aerial footage, the drone footage is that

467
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<v Speaker 4>this was roughly five thousand people, so dispatching forty officers

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<v Speaker 4>for five thousand people. Obviously, that's going to go nowhere quick.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was on the phone Sunday night with folks

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<v Speaker 4>going back and forth about this, in my opinion, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 4>the National Guard should have been called in. Yes, our

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<v Speaker 4>governor should have stepped in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to follow the logic here, and there

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<v Speaker 2>is none that if five thousand people can gather and

476
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<v Speaker 2>have this unruly type of behavior and not be rained in,

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<v Speaker 2>at what point would what you just said be enacted?

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<v Speaker 3>If at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it because it's Venezuelan's and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>out whoever there is illegal in this country, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to cooperate with ICE I mean, unfortunately,

482
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<v Speaker 2>because it's a vacuum, there's a void people are going

483
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<v Speaker 2>to fill in with their own assumptions and details rather

484
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<v Speaker 2>than getting it straight from the police Chief Heather Morris as.

485
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<v Speaker 3>To what exactly happened.

486
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<v Speaker 2>And if we can't trust Aurora PD Danielle to stem

487
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<v Speaker 2>something like this, what can we trust them with?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I have been very vocal about APD leadership. I've

489
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<v Speaker 4>been very vocal about that since the day I swore

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<v Speaker 4>into office in twenty twenty one, and APD leadership has

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<v Speaker 4>been a problem. As for the rank and file men

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<v Speaker 4>and women of Aura, they get up and they do

493
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<v Speaker 4>their best every single day. They do what they're told

494
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<v Speaker 4>to do, and what they're what they're told they can't do,

495
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<v Speaker 4>they don't. So there definitely is a problem with the

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<v Speaker 4>leadership in the Aurora Police Department. And we are working

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<v Speaker 4>diligently to bring in a permanent police chief and that

498
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<v Speaker 4>is going to happen soon. But you know, even still, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 4>if you were to activate our entire police department, if

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<v Speaker 4>you were to activate the entire Aurora Police Department roughly

501
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<v Speaker 4>six hundred and fifty officers right now, you're still deploying

502
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<v Speaker 4>six hundred and fifty on five thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>And Again, it should never have been allowed to get

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<v Speaker 2>to that point. There was obvious, observable chaos that was

505
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<v Speaker 2>going on and it was just unfettered. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>very unsettling incident, to say the least. And Danielle, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad that you brought it to our attention that

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<v Speaker 2>you joined me to talk about it here today.

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<v Speaker 3>Please keep us updated.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hear anything else, just let me know and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see where the story goes from here.

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<v Speaker 4>I sure, well, thank you so much, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Daniel Jorinsky right there, she's a member of the

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<v Speaker 2>Aurora City Council. Especially if you live in Aurora and

515
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<v Speaker 2>you have any kind of knowledge about what was going

516
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<v Speaker 2>on here. It was Venezuelan Nationals gathering for a good reason,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, to celebrate the ouster. They were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>of Nicholas Maduro, a communist dictator. But things got out

519
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<v Speaker 2>of hand. It escalated five thousand people reportedly here in Aurora, PD.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to see here. I just can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Five seven seven, three nine seven year tech start them

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<v Speaker 2>Dan one eight five five four zero five eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five Wrapping up our number one of the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Kaplas Show, Ryan Shuling filling in after this.

525
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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>So how can you be the head of an agency

527
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<v Speaker 6>and be unaware how your agency is perceived by certain communities.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of perceptions in the media and in

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<v Speaker 5>the public that are incorrect about the.

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<v Speaker 6>Ape, but the perception exists. Would you agree whether or

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<v Speaker 6>not it's correct, And wouldn't you agree then that if

532
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<v Speaker 6>that perception exists, there might need to be some work

533
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<v Speaker 6>done to correct the perception.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to advocate for the workforce, the vital

535
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<v Speaker 5>public safety mission that they have to protect the homeland,

536
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<v Speaker 5>and I think more people need to know how valuable

537
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<v Speaker 5>they are to the society. So I agree with you on.

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<v Speaker 2>That Kamala Harris is dangerously incompetent on this issue.

539
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<v Speaker 3>And there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain level of willfulness that goes along with this as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Schuling in for Dan Caplis for this hour one.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trail that she follows here is that, well,

543
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<v Speaker 2>there's a perception by those who are here illegally that

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<v Speaker 2>Ice is how to get them, and it's because of

545
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<v Speaker 2>their race. Because that's the perception, therefore it must be reality,

546
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<v Speaker 2>and if it's reality, then there must be something done

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<v Speaker 2>about it, don't you see this? So, because anyone out

548
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<v Speaker 2>there might perceive ICE as being like the Ku Klux Klan,

549
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<v Speaker 2>which Kamala Harris alleged in this hearing from November twenty eighteen,

550
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<v Speaker 2>anybody might perceive that that we have to treat it

551
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<v Speaker 2>as if it's real and do something about that perception.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Not do something about the border, not do something about

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<v Speaker 2>those who are here illegally, who shouldn't be who are

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<v Speaker 2>breaking our laws?

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<v Speaker 3>Who should be deported? No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the perception that Ice might be mean that, ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen, is your candidate for president of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States from the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 3>She must get nowhere near the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking, of course, about an incident in Aurora

561
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<v Speaker 2>that will be further emboldened. There will be kerosene thrown

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<v Speaker 2>on that type of fire by the likes of Kamala

563
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<v Speaker 2>Harris if she has sworn in as president, because she

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<v Speaker 2>will green light and roll out the red carpet for

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<v Speaker 2>much more of what we saw Venezuelans gathering in the

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<v Speaker 2>street to the tune of five thousand, shutting down businesses,

567
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>shutting down roads and streets, firing off guns.

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<v Speaker 3>That's lawlessness. Where was the Aurora PD, That's the question

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Aurora and Greg a listener, a witness

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<v Speaker 2>to the Venezuelans. Greg, I'm just going on your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and ears here what you saw and heard take us

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<v Speaker 2>through it if you would place sure.

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<v Speaker 8>Ye know, my wife and I were driving north on

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<v Speaker 8>Havana roughly in that area, and I looked to the

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<v Speaker 8>right over where the Buckingham Square Mall used to be,

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<v Speaker 8>and there were thousands of people and not a parking

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<v Speaker 8>place to be had, and we realized that somehow it

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<v Speaker 8>is Venezuelan's well. As we moved north, they were blocking

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<v Speaker 8>the lanes to turn, you know, the left hand lane

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<v Speaker 8>was blocking the whole street, and we hawked at one

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<v Speaker 8>of them. They didn't even understand what we're saying, that

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<v Speaker 8>you can't just block the intersection like that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 8>my point is that I think this whole, the whole

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<v Speaker 8>situation there was very surprising and it was very symptomatic

586
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<v Speaker 8>of what's going on in Aurora. I mean, Aurora is

587
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<v Speaker 8>becoming a foreign country, and it's so weird what we saw.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't see one police officer anywhere. Couldn't figure out

589
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 8>how these people got onto that parking lot without They

590
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 8>were obviously disrupting business, But did they have permits that

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<v Speaker 8>they have? Why were they gathered there? I mean, I

592
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<v Speaker 8>think there might have been a reason in their own minds,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think this escalator should be escalated way beyond

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<v Speaker 8>the police chief. What is Mayor Kaufman? What is he?

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<v Speaker 8>What's what's he doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>This is uh. This tastes like sanction wary city stuff

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<v Speaker 8>to me. And I'd like to know what Mayor Kaufman

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<v Speaker 8>is doing. Where is she? Has she made a comment

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<v Speaker 8>about this? What's his attitude? He's the head of the

601
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<v Speaker 8>can of the buck stops with him. What's going on

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<v Speaker 8>with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Greg?

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<v Speaker 2>Great points, Thanks, And just to re emphasize one, you

605
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<v Speaker 2>are entitled to answers. I think we need to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from the mayor. We certainly need to hear from Aura PD.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>That tells you something.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying you observe personally thousands, not hundreds, thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of people in the streets of Aurora and not one

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<v Speaker 2>single red and blue lighted police vehicle.

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<v Speaker 8>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Greg, thank you so much for that contribution. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>looking to get to the bottom of this, We have

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to Mayor Kaufman directly.

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<v Speaker 3>We have reached out to Aurora PD.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly has just done that directly for a comment from

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<v Speaker 2>If nobody else, their PIO, their public information officer, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Has to be some kind of statement.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't. There's no explanation for this. We only heard

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<v Speaker 2>from Daniel Jerinsky. We appreciate her time in joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>But if not for Danielle, would we know about this

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I mean, I live insulated a bit in

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<v Speaker 2>Greenwood Village, but that's not that far from Aurora. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a short jot down two twenty five and I

627
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<v Speaker 2>was not aware of this but for the post on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook from Danielle Jerinsky, and that's where you can find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we had a textra question along these lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Facebook. Her public page is Danielle Jerinsky Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>City Council at Large. So there are no answers. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of questions, and we know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>There don't be gas lit. There was chaos in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets of Aurora. Venezuelan's celebrating the demise of Maduro, which

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<v Speaker 2>didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's beside the point. Where was the Aurora PD