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Speaker 3: In August, what does it hold?
Speaker 2: While the Democratic National Convention is coming up that'll start
Speaker 2: on Monday the nineteenth, where presumably Vice President Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: will be named an anointed the official nominee of a
Speaker 2: Democratic party that did not hold a vote with her
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: She did not win a single.
Speaker 2: Delegate, but the powers that be, the elites within the party,
Speaker 2: they have come down from on high and determined that
Speaker 2: she will be their nominee for President of the United States.
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Speaker 2: Now, I just had Kelly reach out to my good
Speaker 2: friend Danielle Jirinsky. She is a member of the City
Speaker 2: Council for Aurora, and there have been some troubling developments
Speaker 2: in the city of Aurora over these last forty eight
Speaker 2: hours or so. Danielle posted this at just after ten
Speaker 2: am yesterday, and we've reached out to her to appear
Speaker 2: on the program. We're hoping at the bottom of this
Speaker 2: hour and Dan maybe back by then as well. But
Speaker 2: I'll just read you the post. All right, Kelly, what
Speaker 2: do you got breaking news?
Speaker 4: Yes, breaking news.
Speaker 2: Dan will be joining us at five.
Speaker 3: Dan will be joining us at five. Yes, what about Danielle?
Speaker 2: We don't have any all right, Well, she might have
Speaker 2: heard me right now, So Bat signals out for Danielle Jurinsky,
Speaker 2: and she posted the following quote to the people of Aurora.
Speaker 2: I need you to know the severity of and the
Speaker 2: flat out truth about what is going on in Aurora.
Speaker 2: The media won't make a big deal about it, and
Speaker 2: we'll try to downplay it. Some of my own colleagues
Speaker 2: would probably even tell you there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 2: Last night, from roughly six pm to eleven PM, the
Speaker 2: city of Aurora was taken over at the intersection of
Speaker 2: Mississippi and Havana. You will see that Venezuelan flags are flying.
Speaker 2: The shopping centers were invaded, and cars trapped in the
Speaker 2: streets were shut down. There are reports of assaults, theft,
Speaker 2: and gunshots in the air. I have not heard of
Speaker 2: any reported deaths. I am told that these folks were
Speaker 2: quote celebrating unquote the loss of the current Venezuelan leader,
Speaker 2: that would be Nicholas Maduro. But a lot is, of
Speaker 2: course transpired in the time since he has arrested control
Speaker 2: of set election, rigged it in his own favor. The
Speaker 2: people are revolting, and I think this is going to
Speaker 2: tip on whether or not the military supports the people
Speaker 2: in their uprising and the revolution against Maduro, or that
Speaker 2: they serve as the strong arm of Maduro against those revolting, and.
Speaker 3: That could get very ugly, very quickly.
Speaker 2: Continuing now with Danielle Jorinsky's post about Aurora and the
Speaker 2: Venezuelans therein quote, thousands of these folks took over and
Speaker 2: completely shut down a part of our city. The police
Speaker 2: were totally overrun and we're forced to get out of
Speaker 2: the area for their safety.
Speaker 3: A police car was shot up. This is the United
Speaker 3: States of America. This is in your city. Please please
Speaker 3: spread the word. This November's election.
Speaker 2: May in fact be the actual most important of your lives,
Speaker 2: your children's lives, and your grandchildren's lives. Again, you all
Speaker 2: deserve the truth. I have included multiple photos and emails
Speaker 2: that came in, and I'll do my best to describe these,
Speaker 2: because I know you can't see them listening.
Speaker 3: Where you are.
Speaker 2: I see a big kind of conglomeration of cars. It
Speaker 2: looks to be like a tailgating tent. There are people
Speaker 2: in and around and on said vehicles in this parking lot.
Speaker 2: And I believe actually this is a street that looks
Speaker 2: like a parking lot if not mistaken. A couple other
Speaker 2: photos here looks to be some definite damage to some cars,
Speaker 2: windows busted out and so forth. An overhead shot here,
Speaker 2: a pretty clear one by Danielle that shows a road
Speaker 2: basically is to her point, shut down. And what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get at, what I hope we can ask
Speaker 2: Danielle about, is what is the why behind this? If
Speaker 2: the Venezuelans that are here we're fleeing Nicholas Maduro and
Speaker 2: that common regime, well, that, in my view, is a
Speaker 2: viable claim for asylum. It is the reason why Cuban
Speaker 2: Americans have come here in the past. It is the
Speaker 2: reason why my mother and her parents came here fleeing
Speaker 2: from the communist dictator Tito in Yugoslavia nineteen fifty. Fleeing
Speaker 2: a communist regime and a dictatorship, whether it's China or
Speaker 2: the former Soviet Union, is a valid claim for asylum. Again,
Speaker 2: that's my opinion, and that's my view, and that's usually
Speaker 2: what the United States has done. So if you come
Speaker 2: here from Venezuela, the presumption would be that you don't
Speaker 2: want any part of what the regime in charge Maduro
Speaker 2: was doing in that communist dictatorship, which restricted the rights
Speaker 2: of individuals to the point now where he's basically willing
Speaker 2: to overturn the results of a fraudulent election in which
Speaker 2: he was trailing. It would appear by thirty points based
Speaker 2: on exit polls in that country where at least the
Speaker 2: people tried to speak up and speak out and through
Speaker 2: the peaceful process of the vote of the ballot box,
Speaker 2: houst a communist dictator, which I don't know that that's
Speaker 2: ever been done. I don't even know why they're staging
Speaker 2: these elections when I think we know going in that
Speaker 2: they were going.
Speaker 3: To be rigged.
Speaker 2: That's what communist regimes do, That's what Fidel Castro did
Speaker 2: in Cuba, That's what the Soviet Union did. And of course,
Speaker 2: the famous quote from Joseph Stalin, it's not who votes,
Speaker 2: but who counts the votes. And so I'm very curious
Speaker 2: as to why the Venezuelans that are here, who I welcome,
Speaker 2: if they want to assimilate, become Americans, speak our language,
Speaker 2: adhere to our culture and customs, and embrace the American dream.
Speaker 2: Legal Venezuelan immigrants, I think, have every opportunity to be
Speaker 2: here and make the most of that life if they
Speaker 2: contribute to our society and play by the rules and
Speaker 2: follow our immigration laws. All of that notwithstanding, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many of these gathered that came here legally
Speaker 2: illegally circumvented the process. But it goes back to my
Speaker 2: central point that I've made for many months and maybe
Speaker 2: even years now, and that is, if your first act
Speaker 2: as a person entering our country is to break and
Speaker 2: disregard our laws on immigration, what motivation or incentive is
Speaker 2: there for you to follow any of our laws. So
Speaker 2: what we see here in this gathering is a lot
Speaker 2: of lawlessness, disrespect for the rule of law, for order
Speaker 2: in a community Aurora that you should be embracing. And
Speaker 2: again this is important assimilating too. It doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: cut ties to all of your heritage. I'm very proud
Speaker 2: of my Serbian heritage and my grandparents coming here. But
Speaker 2: when they came here, they wanted to be Americans. They
Speaker 2: came here for a reason. It wasn't just to transplant
Speaker 2: themselves recreate a Yugoslavian culture here in the United States.
Speaker 2: It was a different time, however, and what my grandfather
Speaker 2: had to do as he improved his English, and he
Speaker 2: spoke very good English. As a matter of fact was
Speaker 2: fined in the city of Saint Louis, and there were
Speaker 2: many of these same kinds of experiences in Chicago, in
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, throughout the Upper Midwest where a lot of
Speaker 2: Serbs settled, working class, blue collar automotive industry. And my
Speaker 2: grandfather worked at Anheuser Bush at least during the winters
Speaker 2: when he wasn't running his farm in southern Illinois, but
Speaker 2: there were Serbian Orthodox churches that you would gather, and
Speaker 2: in that environment, you're all kind of looking out for
Speaker 2: each other. And there was an element of this to
Speaker 2: many ethnic groups that came over to the United States,
Speaker 2: whether it was the Irish in New York City or
Speaker 2: the Italians in New York City, and then throughout this country.
Speaker 2: And I think it's beautiful and a wonderful thing in
Speaker 2: a melting pot that America is, and that we have
Speaker 2: all embraced and we should when people come here and
Speaker 2: they want to contribute maybe something from their own culture.
Speaker 2: And we see so many great ethnic restaurants around here
Speaker 2: for that very reason. But the bottom line is, again,
Speaker 2: you're not just separating yourself from your former country and
Speaker 2: then recreating it here. You are an American now. You
Speaker 2: live in the United States, that should mean something to
Speaker 2: you and you should want to contribute to the experience.
Speaker 2: So when the Venezuelans gather here, and I have no
Speaker 2: doubt that their celebratory and enthused about the potential of
Speaker 2: Maduro being deposed, But you really contradict your whole ethos
Speaker 2: and process here by creating disturbances in the streets shooting
Speaker 2: a gun off in the air. This is completely unacceptable
Speaker 2: and reckless behavior. So I want to kind of sort
Speaker 2: through this and acknowledge that the Venezuelans, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: in good faith and interests, were just jubulant about the
Speaker 2: fact that maybe their home country was going to get
Speaker 2: rid of a communist dictator.
Speaker 3: That's great, But the means and the method here.
Speaker 2: That's what's in question of what is going on and
Speaker 2: where are the Aurora police. I'd like to hear from
Speaker 2: Mayor Mike Kaufman on this as well. John Fabricatory had
Speaker 2: a tweet about this, and I talked to him earlier
Speaker 2: about a different subject, but I want to reach out
Speaker 2: to him about this as well. I'll read that for
Speaker 2: you when we come back. Your thoughts on it. In addition,
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Speaker 5: The Klan was what we would call today a domestic
Speaker 5: terrorist group.
Speaker 6: Why why would we call them domestic terrorist group?
Speaker 5: Because they tried to use fear and forced to change
Speaker 5: political environment?
Speaker 6: And what was the motivation for the use of fear.
Speaker 5: And force based on race and ethnicity? Right?
Speaker 6: Are you aware of the perception of many about how
Speaker 6: the power and the discretion at ICE is being used
Speaker 6: to enforce the laws? And do you see any parallels.
Speaker 5: I do not see any parallels between I'm talking about
Speaker 5: perceptions and agents.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about perception.
Speaker 5: I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally
Speaker 5: mandated as it relates to enforcing the law.
Speaker 6: Are you aware that there's a perception No, Are you
Speaker 6: aware that there's a perception.
Speaker 5: ICE in the same category as the KKK.
Speaker 2: Are you aware, Vice President Harris, that there's a perception
Speaker 2: that you have done literally nothing to help with the
Speaker 2: border crisis, with the illegals flooding into our states and cities,
Speaker 2: that sanctuary status has in fact invited illegals to come here,
Speaker 2: despite your lame, weak protestations to the contrary, where you
Speaker 2: just stood there at electorn and said don't come, don't come.
Speaker 2: That is not effective border policy. And she knows that.
Speaker 2: I think this is a cheap cynical play. This is
Speaker 2: from when she was a senator November twenty eighteen, almost
Speaker 2: six years ago, but when she was flocked way to
Speaker 2: the left on this issue, she was comparing immigration and
Speaker 2: customs enforcement to the KKK with a straight face. Now
Speaker 2: it was a cheap, cynical political play for points from
Speaker 2: the left, but she said it, and I believe she
Speaker 2: meant it, and if she tries to undo it, well
Speaker 2: good luck to her. This is the person who America
Speaker 2: is going to choose between either her or Donald Trump
Speaker 2: when it comes to border policy and enforcement. And she
Speaker 2: is not a serious person if she is willing to
Speaker 2: cartoonishly compare ice to the ku Klux Klan, an organization
Speaker 2: she couldn't even say, by the way.
Speaker 6: So I want to return to the question that Senator
Speaker 6: Peters asked you about the statement you made describing the
Speaker 6: Democratic Party as liberal critic or neo klanist, which was
Speaker 6: I think the assumption there was that you were comparing
Speaker 6: it to the ku kux Klan Ku klux Klan, the KKK.
Speaker 3: Ku klux Klan.
Speaker 2: There are two l's or zero l's in the first
Speaker 2: part of that term, the KKK. But again, this is
Speaker 2: not a serious person. She has breezed through life unseeriously unchallenged, largely,
Speaker 2: whether it was her appointment as a local DA, her
Speaker 2: race against an incumbent in an attorney general's race in
Speaker 2: California with no serious Republican opposition, her race against a
Speaker 2: fellow Democrat to become a senator there were no Republicans
Speaker 2: seriously contending in that race. Her appointment as Vice President
Speaker 2: of the United States without having to win herself a
Speaker 2: single vote, something she could not do in a Democratic
Speaker 2: primary in twenty twenty. Think about the least path of
Speaker 2: resistance that this person, Kamala Harris a true embodiment of
Speaker 2: a DEI hire. Because Joe Biden himself said that he
Speaker 2: had a list of four qualified black women to choose
Speaker 2: from for his vice presidential running mate, he narrowed the
Speaker 2: list on that basis.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that. None of us did that.
Speaker 2: That's DEI at work and in place, and that's why
Speaker 2: in large parts she was selected.
Speaker 3: Think about the field. Go back to that. Think about
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, a vast array of candidates in that
Speaker 2: primary election that Joe Biden would end up winning and
Speaker 2: securing the nomination from there was Pete buddhaj Edge, Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 2: Tulca Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobashar. There were some pretty
Speaker 2: talented people on that side, a lot of whom I
Speaker 2: think are.
Speaker 3: Buffoonish in nature.
Speaker 2: But that's beside the point that if you were a Democrat,
Speaker 2: there was a lot to choose from. But all of
Speaker 2: those people I just said were booted from the evaluation
Speaker 2: process for consideration because they didn't check two boxes O
Speaker 2: sensibly black, which Kamala Harris is half Jamaican, half Indian.
Speaker 2: Not that it should matter. I don't think it should matter,
Speaker 2: but it mattered to them. Tulsey Gabbard is Hawaiian native. Nah,
Speaker 2: that's not good enough. That's not a powerful enough DEI
Speaker 2: play in the calculation of the Democratic Party. So yes,
Speaker 2: I will undermine everything about Kamala Harris because we hear
Speaker 2: crap like you just heard from that hearing in November
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, or she insulted anybody having to do with immigration, customs,
Speaker 2: border enforcement at all, the hard working men and women
Speaker 2: of that entire organization that's trying to keep America safe.
Speaker 2: She reduced them to an analogy with the ku Klux Klan.
Speaker 3: This is not a serious person. I cannot stress that enough.
Speaker 2: But the further point to be made here is that
Speaker 2: if we elect Kamala Harris's president, what we saw over
Speaker 2: the last forty eight to seventy two hours in Aura,
Speaker 2: you can multiply that tenfold because she will have an
Speaker 2: open border's policy that would make Joe Biden blush if
Speaker 2: he knew what was going on, which he does not.
Speaker 2: It's got a Gina in Aurora commenting on the riots
Speaker 2: in that very city. Gina will into the program.
Speaker 7: Hi, thank you. I just wanted to say, you know,
Speaker 7: my my girlfriend lives over in that neighborhood, Like I mean,
Speaker 7: it's walking distance to that target, and she called me
Speaker 7: and was extremely upset. I had no idea what was
Speaker 7: going on. She also said, first she thought it was
Speaker 7: like five hundred people, but it was more like four
Speaker 7: or five thousand people. She said the next day that
Speaker 7: the Target parking lot was completely trushed and the Target
Speaker 7: employees were out there trying to clean it up, and
Speaker 7: actually people from the neighborhood came to help them clean.
Speaker 7: You know, they had to shut down the store. I mean,
Speaker 7: people that maybe needed to get their medication couldn't get
Speaker 7: their medication because there's a pharmacy in that store.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: There's nothing mentioned on the APD website, nothing really, not
Speaker 7: much mentioned at all on social media except for you know,
Speaker 7: Daniel Danielle and is it John.
Speaker 3: Fabricatory, That's correct.
Speaker 7: I think we're the only two that I've really seen anybody,
Speaker 7: you know, saying anything. I am just absolutely disgusted. My
Speaker 7: girlfriend told me that when it first started, if APD
Speaker 7: had shut it down when it first started, this would
Speaker 7: not blown up. And then to just sit back and again,
Speaker 7: I mean, do we have another Vanessa Wilson chief of
Speaker 7: police on our hands? I mean, I cannot believe. And
Speaker 7: the buck stops with her. The mayor is a is
Speaker 7: not a strong mayor in Aurora. He is a tiebreaker vote.
Speaker 7: So you know, I don't know if we can really
Speaker 7: blame anything on him, but I blame the chief of police.
Speaker 2: Gina very well said thank you so much for that
Speaker 2: and that she is in Aurora. Gina, I appreciate your
Speaker 2: first hands perspective, especially from your friend. We had to
Speaker 2: hit this hard break here and Danielle Jorinski will be
Speaker 2: joining us on the other side. According to Kelly John
Speaker 2: Fabricatory posted on x last night and Aurora, groups of
Speaker 2: Venezuelans took over the streets, block traffic, shot firearms after
Speaker 2: the elections were announced in their country. The reports of assaults, thefts,
Speaker 2: in a police car being shot at. A local Aurora
Speaker 2: councilwoman posted multiple pictures to her Facebook and relayed complaints
Speaker 2: from local citizens. That local Aurora consolwoman is Danielle Jerinsky
Speaker 2: and she joins me next Ryan Schuling in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5: Is that where you're asking me?
Speaker 6: No, I'm very specific about what I'm asking. Are you
Speaker 6: aware of a perception that the way that the discretion
Speaker 6: I'm not finished, I'm not finished. I'm not finished. Are
Speaker 6: you aware that there's a perception that ICE is administering
Speaker 6: its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation,
Speaker 6: particularly among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico
Speaker 6: and Central America. Are you aware of that perception.
Speaker 5: I do not see a parallel between the power and
Speaker 5: the authority that ICE has to do its job and
Speaker 5: the agents and officers who do it professionally and excellently
Speaker 5: with lots of compassion.
Speaker 2: If you want more of what has been happening in Aurora,
Speaker 2: then go right ahead and vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: This was from a hearing November twenty eighteen, in which
Speaker 2: Senator Harris, then Senator Harris compared our ICE officers to
Speaker 2: the ku Klux Klan, directly, unabashedly, without hesitation and voice
Speaker 2: concerns that our ICE officers, well, they're.
Speaker 3: Too mean and they might even be racist like the KKK.
Speaker 2: So it stands to reason that there will be an
Speaker 2: avalanche of migrants, immigrants illegals flooding to our border knowing
Speaker 2: that Kamala welcomes them because that is her stated policy position,
Speaker 2: and she has done nothing in her role supposedly as
Speaker 2: borders are or however you wanted to find it, she
Speaker 2: was put in charge of the border, full stop, point blank,
Speaker 2: that's what happened, no matter what revisionist history.
Speaker 3: The media tries to visit upon it.
Speaker 2: And if she had been a success, they'd be touting
Speaker 2: it from the mountaintops. But she was a failure, so
Speaker 2: they're trying to bury it. But you can't bury what's
Speaker 2: happening right now in Aurora and joining us now. She's
Speaker 2: a member of the city council there and it was
Speaker 2: her post that drew attention from John Fabricatory, who is
Speaker 2: a former ice officer himself and a candidate in the
Speaker 2: sixth congressional district Republican against incumbent Democrat Jason Crowe and
Speaker 2: their district encompasses Aurora. Danielle Jerinsky our guest, Danielle, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Now take us through the post.
Speaker 2: What first happened, how it came to your attention, and
Speaker 2: what you know about it at this point?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 4: So, how it first came to my attention was Sunday night,
Speaker 4: I was putting my son to bed in all of
Speaker 4: us sudden police officers themselves started reaching out to me
Speaker 4: and saying, hey.
Speaker 8: Are you aware of what's going on?
Speaker 4: Do you know what's happening? Multiple officers reached out to me,
Speaker 4: and I said, what is going on? So they started
Speaker 4: sending me photos, and they started sending me videos, and
Speaker 4: they started telling me what was going on. Now, I
Speaker 4: will say I was not personally out there, but I
Speaker 4: think there's enough video footage and pictures to explain what
Speaker 4: happened to include a police car being shot, And there
Speaker 4: is an actual police report number for a lot of
Speaker 4: this stuff. Some of the media is already trying to
Speaker 4: downplay this. There's actual police report numbers for some of this.
Speaker 2: Now, following up on that, Danielle, you were saying, rank
Speaker 2: and file Aurora PD officers are reaching out to you.
Speaker 2: I find that interesting. And concerning the chief of police,
Speaker 2: there is still how the Morris. She was interim, but
Speaker 2: does she permanent She is the interim.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, she's still interim.
Speaker 2: Okay, and in that role. What's going on here is
Speaker 2: she made a public comment.
Speaker 3: Of any kind.
Speaker 4: As far as I know, she has not made a
Speaker 4: public comment of any kind. She called me directly yesterday
Speaker 4: and we spoke about the incident and she confirmed that
Speaker 4: one person was graised with a bullet. There was an
Speaker 4: overwhelming amount of theft in the stores in that area,
Speaker 4: that happened. She confirmed the police vehicle, so she called
Speaker 4: me and she learned confirmed a lot of things, but
Speaker 4: I don't believe that she had made a public statement,
Speaker 4: and even the city itself is just putting out a
Speaker 4: very generic statement sort of downplaying this. So that's why
Speaker 4: I decided to make the post that I did, to
Speaker 4: get the attention that it got, because the people of Aurora,
Speaker 4: and quite frankly, the people of Colorado, deserve to know
Speaker 4: the truth that they're not going to get from the media.
Speaker 3: Well, this is different media, of course.
Speaker 2: Daniel Chirinsky joining me Ryan Shulding in temporarily for Dan
Speaker 2: kaplis here today talking about the events in Aurora where
Speaker 2: a large group of Venezuelan nationals gathered to celebrate, ostensibly
Speaker 2: the ousting of Nicholas Maduro, although we know that in
Speaker 2: real time that has not happened to this point, that
Speaker 2: there was an overturning of the election results, and there's
Speaker 2: some riots and protests going on down there in Venezuela.
Speaker 2: But it brings me back to the central point here, Danielle,
Speaker 2: which is did this group did any members of this
Speaker 2: group have a permit together? Was this a spontaneous gathering.
Speaker 2: What explanation have you gotten.
Speaker 4: I know that there was no permit, and it seems
Speaker 4: that it was spontaneous. Obviously no intel picked this up,
Speaker 4: so it seems like it was spontaneous.
Speaker 2: So in that vein that you said you had a
Speaker 2: conversation with the interim Chief of Police and Aurora, Heather Morris.
Speaker 2: What was the explanation given as to why it was
Speaker 2: allowed to escalate to the point that we're seeing here
Speaker 2: in your post.
Speaker 4: Yes, I wasn't really given a reason, Ryan, I was
Speaker 4: pretty much just told that the situation was being monitored
Speaker 4: and that they're reviewing footage drone footage to try and
Speaker 4: identify some of these people that were shooting off into
Speaker 4: the air, that shot the cop car, that shot whoever
Speaker 4: the civilian is that was grazed by a bullet. I
Speaker 4: was told they are reviewing footage. Mind you, Ryan, they're
Speaker 4: reviewing footage of folks that did not enter this country legally.
Speaker 4: So I don't know how they're going what the plan
Speaker 4: is there to place faces names with those faces, But
Speaker 4: I myself am even given very generic answers.
Speaker 3: Daniel Jerinsky our guest.
Speaker 2: She's a member of the Aurora City Council and trying
Speaker 2: to parse through the details here.
Speaker 3: I'm very confused, Danielle.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are too, And maybe some of our
Speaker 2: listeners in Aurora are trying to piece this together because
Speaker 2: it's very unsettling. And I don't want to impugne members
Speaker 2: of Auror REPAD because some of them reached out to
Speaker 2: you and I had have to believe they didn't want
Speaker 2: this to happen. But they're blocking businesses, they're blocking traffic,
Speaker 2: they're firing off weapons.
Speaker 3: I guess that the logical.
Speaker 2: End of this would be, at what point does Aurora
Speaker 2: PD step in and stop this madness?
Speaker 3: Again? How did it?
Speaker 2: How did it get to escalate to this point without
Speaker 2: A or rep D at least showing hey, hey, what's
Speaker 2: going on here, let's settle down, let's kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: keep this in line.
Speaker 3: Nobody did that, it appears.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Interim Chief Heather Morris told me that there were
Speaker 4: forty officers deployed. But the number that I have been given,
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure how PD put this together. Maybe
Speaker 4: it is the aerial footage, the drone footage is that
Speaker 4: this was roughly five thousand people, so dispatching forty officers
Speaker 4: for five thousand people. Obviously, that's going to go nowhere quick.
Speaker 4: When I was on the phone Sunday night with folks
Speaker 4: going back and forth about this, in my opinion, Ryan,
Speaker 4: the National Guard should have been called in. Yes, our
Speaker 4: governor should have stepped in.
Speaker 3: That's just what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to follow the logic here, and there
Speaker 2: is none that if five thousand people can gather and
Speaker 2: have this unruly type of behavior and not be rained in,
Speaker 2: at what point would what you just said be enacted?
Speaker 3: If at all?
Speaker 2: Is it because it's Venezuelan's and they don't want to
Speaker 2: out whoever there is illegal in this country, and then
Speaker 2: they're not going to cooperate with ICE I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: because it's a vacuum, there's a void people are going
Speaker 2: to fill in with their own assumptions and details rather
Speaker 2: than getting it straight from the police Chief Heather Morris as.
Speaker 3: To what exactly happened.
Speaker 2: And if we can't trust Aurora PD Danielle to stem
Speaker 2: something like this, what can we trust them with?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have been very vocal about APD leadership. I've
Speaker 4: been very vocal about that since the day I swore
Speaker 4: into office in twenty twenty one, and APD leadership has
Speaker 4: been a problem. As for the rank and file men
Speaker 4: and women of Aura, they get up and they do
Speaker 4: their best every single day. They do what they're told
Speaker 4: to do, and what they're what they're told they can't do,
Speaker 4: they don't. So there definitely is a problem with the
Speaker 4: leadership in the Aurora Police Department. And we are working
Speaker 4: diligently to bring in a permanent police chief and that
Speaker 4: is going to happen soon. But you know, even still, Ryan,
Speaker 4: if you were to activate our entire police department, if
Speaker 4: you were to activate the entire Aurora Police Department roughly
Speaker 4: six hundred and fifty officers right now, you're still deploying
Speaker 4: six hundred and fifty on five thousand.
Speaker 2: And Again, it should never have been allowed to get
Speaker 2: to that point. There was obvious, observable chaos that was
Speaker 2: going on and it was just unfettered. This is a
Speaker 2: very unsettling incident, to say the least. And Danielle, I'm
Speaker 2: so glad that you brought it to our attention that
Speaker 2: you joined me to talk about it here today.
Speaker 3: Please keep us updated.
Speaker 2: If you hear anything else, just let me know and
Speaker 2: we'll see where the story goes from here.
Speaker 4: I sure, well, thank you so much, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Daniel Jorinsky right there, she's a member of the
Speaker 2: Aurora City Council. Especially if you live in Aurora and
Speaker 2: you have any kind of knowledge about what was going
Speaker 2: on here. It was Venezuelan Nationals gathering for a good reason,
Speaker 2: I would say, to celebrate the ouster. They were hoping
Speaker 2: of Nicholas Maduro, a communist dictator. But things got out
Speaker 2: of hand. It escalated five thousand people reportedly here in Aurora, PD.
Speaker 3: There's nothing to see here. I just can't believe that.
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Speaker 6: So how can you be the head of an agency
Speaker 6: and be unaware how your agency is perceived by certain communities.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of perceptions in the media and in
Speaker 5: the public that are incorrect about the.
Speaker 6: Ape, but the perception exists. Would you agree whether or
Speaker 6: not it's correct, And wouldn't you agree then that if
Speaker 6: that perception exists, there might need to be some work
Speaker 6: done to correct the perception.
Speaker 5: I do want to advocate for the workforce, the vital
Speaker 5: public safety mission that they have to protect the homeland,
Speaker 5: and I think more people need to know how valuable
Speaker 5: they are to the society. So I agree with you on.
Speaker 2: That Kamala Harris is dangerously incompetent on this issue.
Speaker 3: And there's a.
Speaker 2: Certain level of willfulness that goes along with this as well.
Speaker 3: Ryan Schuling in for Dan Caplis for this hour one.
Speaker 2: But the trail that she follows here is that, well,
Speaker 2: there's a perception by those who are here illegally that
Speaker 2: Ice is how to get them, and it's because of
Speaker 2: their race. Because that's the perception, therefore it must be reality,
Speaker 2: and if it's reality, then there must be something done
Speaker 2: about it, don't you see this? So, because anyone out
Speaker 2: there might perceive ICE as being like the Ku Klux Klan,
Speaker 2: which Kamala Harris alleged in this hearing from November twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: anybody might perceive that that we have to treat it
Speaker 2: as if it's real and do something about that perception.
Speaker 2: Not do something about the border, not do something about
Speaker 2: those who are here illegally, who shouldn't be who are
Speaker 2: breaking our laws?
Speaker 3: Who should be deported? No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: It's the perception that Ice might be mean that, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, is your candidate for president of the United
Speaker 2: States from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: She must get nowhere near the Oval office.
Speaker 2: And we're talking, of course, about an incident in Aurora
Speaker 2: that will be further emboldened. There will be kerosene thrown
Speaker 2: on that type of fire by the likes of Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris if she has sworn in as president, because she
Speaker 2: will green light and roll out the red carpet for
Speaker 2: much more of what we saw Venezuelans gathering in the
Speaker 2: street to the tune of five thousand, shutting down businesses,
Speaker 2: shutting down roads and streets, firing off guns.
Speaker 3: That's lawlessness. Where was the Aurora PD, That's the question
Speaker 3: coming out of this.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Aurora and Greg a listener, a witness
Speaker 2: to the Venezuelans. Greg, I'm just going on your eyes
Speaker 2: and ears here what you saw and heard take us
Speaker 2: through it if you would place sure.
Speaker 8: Ye know, my wife and I were driving north on
Speaker 8: Havana roughly in that area, and I looked to the
Speaker 8: right over where the Buckingham Square Mall used to be,
Speaker 8: and there were thousands of people and not a parking
Speaker 8: place to be had, and we realized that somehow it
Speaker 8: is Venezuelan's well. As we moved north, they were blocking
Speaker 8: the lanes to turn, you know, the left hand lane
Speaker 8: was blocking the whole street, and we hawked at one
Speaker 8: of them. They didn't even understand what we're saying, that
Speaker 8: you can't just block the intersection like that. But anyway,
Speaker 8: my point is that I think this whole, the whole
Speaker 8: situation there was very surprising and it was very symptomatic
Speaker 8: of what's going on in Aurora. I mean, Aurora is
Speaker 8: becoming a foreign country, and it's so weird what we saw.
Speaker 8: I didn't see one police officer anywhere. Couldn't figure out
Speaker 8: how these people got onto that parking lot without They
Speaker 8: were obviously disrupting business, But did they have permits that
Speaker 8: they have? Why were they gathered there? I mean, I
Speaker 8: think there might have been a reason in their own minds,
Speaker 8: but I think this escalator should be escalated way beyond
Speaker 8: the police chief. What is Mayor Kaufman? What is he?
Speaker 8: What's what's he doing?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 8: This is uh. This tastes like sanction wary city stuff
Speaker 8: to me. And I'd like to know what Mayor Kaufman
Speaker 8: is doing. Where is she? Has she made a comment
Speaker 8: about this? What's his attitude? He's the head of the
Speaker 8: can of the buck stops with him. What's going on
Speaker 8: with him?
Speaker 3: Greg?
Speaker 2: Great points, Thanks, And just to re emphasize one, you
Speaker 2: are entitled to answers. I think we need to hear
Speaker 2: from the mayor. We certainly need to hear from Aura PD.
Speaker 2: We haven't.
Speaker 3: That tells you something.
Speaker 2: So you're saying you observe personally thousands, not hundreds, thousands
Speaker 2: of people in the streets of Aurora and not one
Speaker 2: single red and blue lighted police vehicle.
Speaker 8: Correct?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Wow, Greg, thank you so much for that contribution. Again,
Speaker 2: looking to get to the bottom of this, We have
Speaker 2: reached out to Mayor Kaufman directly.
Speaker 3: We have reached out to Aurora PD.
Speaker 2: Kelly has just done that directly for a comment from
Speaker 2: If nobody else, their PIO, their public information officer, there.
Speaker 3: Has to be some kind of statement.
Speaker 2: There isn't. There's no explanation for this. We only heard
Speaker 2: from Daniel Jerinsky. We appreciate her time in joining us.
Speaker 2: But if not for Danielle, would we know about this
Speaker 2: at all. I mean, I live insulated a bit in
Speaker 2: Greenwood Village, but that's not that far from Aurora. It's
Speaker 2: just a short jot down two twenty five and I
Speaker 2: was not aware of this but for the post on
Speaker 2: Facebook from Danielle Jerinsky, and that's where you can find out.
Speaker 2: I know we had a textra question along these lines.
Speaker 2: Go to Facebook. Her public page is Danielle Jerinsky Aurora
Speaker 2: City Council at Large. So there are no answers. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of questions, and we know what happened.
Speaker 2: There don't be gas lit. There was chaos in the
Speaker 2: streets of Aurora. Venezuelan's celebrating the demise of Maduro, which
Speaker 2: didn't happen.
Speaker 3: But that's beside the point. Where was the Aurora PD