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Speaker 6: Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's
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Speaker 6: you again so much for taking the time to join
Speaker 6: us this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Oh of course I'm very excited to be here, so
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, please do take a moment or two and introduce
Speaker 6: yourself to the audience.
Speaker 1: So, thirty nine year old, divorce, single dad and dating.
Speaker 1: I've chosen to just be very upfront with my beliefs.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a christ follower, and you know I
Speaker 1: have some you know, unique beliefs, like believing or understanding
Speaker 1: rather that the earth is flat. And you know, I
Speaker 1: found the podcast i'd say several months ago, probably six
Speaker 1: months ago, and I've just been listening to as much
Speaker 1: as I can. You know, whenever I'm in the car
Speaker 1: running errands, grocery shopping, I'll put my AirPods in, so
Speaker 1: I just really enjoy the content. And I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you host this space so that way people like me
Speaker 1: and others can just share some enjoyable information.
Speaker 6: Sterling. I think it's rather refreshing that you have chosen
Speaker 6: to put It's not surprising that so much that you
Speaker 6: put your faith in Christ up front, because I think
Speaker 6: if you're going to have a life partner, that is
Speaker 6: first and foremost important. But as we were talking a
Speaker 6: little bit before we hit the record button, the stigma
Speaker 6: that is attached to certain things and being up fart
Speaker 6: about something like that, what kind of responses have you gotten?
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, because you're a nice guy.
Speaker 1: A lot of the people that come on the podcast
Speaker 1: are nice guys, you kind of get ghosted. I guess
Speaker 1: would be the best way. The kids call it. You know,
Speaker 1: will be polite and finish the conversation, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: follow through, but I will. I guess at this particular time,
Speaker 1: there is a person I'm courting, you know, use the
Speaker 1: uh older terminology and things are going well. She is
Speaker 1: not of the same belief that the earth is flat,
Speaker 1: but she is a christ follower, and there's so many
Speaker 1: other things that we have in common that I'm realizing,
Speaker 1: you know what, you don't have to agree with me
Speaker 1: on one hundred percent of everything, but you know, there's
Speaker 1: just a few core beliefs that we do need to share,
Speaker 1: and we do. So things have been going great there
Speaker 1: and I credit the fact that you know, just putting
Speaker 1: your putting your truth, like the truth that you believe in.
Speaker 1: It just saves so much time. And honestly, it's me
Speaker 1: being respectful of the other person's time because if you
Speaker 1: can't get past that, then we shouldn't be you know,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be buying dinner, It shouldn't be spending time together
Speaker 1: because you know, the word that I like using is
Speaker 1: it's fruitless, you know what I mean, It just doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to So that's why I do it
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 6: That's all great points, and we know, whether it be
Speaker 6: from our guests or our own personal history, is that
Speaker 6: it does take a while to comprehend, and in many
Speaker 6: cases you have to be given many different instances of
Speaker 6: proof to get over it, and everybody has their own journey.
Speaker 6: And again, for me, if I didn't have all these
Speaker 6: other rabbit holes that I went down first, I probably
Speaker 6: would have not even ever taken the time. I wanted
Speaker 6: to run this by. This is a little differently than
Speaker 6: I do, but I came across this article yesterday and
Speaker 6: I want to run this past you because you are
Speaker 6: a believer in Jesus. And when we talk about people
Speaker 6: who have a set belief, a common belief, like in
Speaker 6: our faith in Jesus, but in some cases, not only
Speaker 6: do they say, hey, that flatter thing is a little
Speaker 6: out there, but people who take the time to go
Speaker 6: against it and effort to go against it without it
Speaker 6: shocks me. So I'm going to give you an example
Speaker 6: of sterling and then we'll get into it. But I
Speaker 6: wanted to do this upfront. Here is a little different.
Speaker 6: So there was a story written a while ago, the
Speaker 6: Answers and Genesis. The Kenham folks, the people who believe
Speaker 6: in you know, the earth is sixty five hundred years old,
Speaker 6: that you can go to the arc experience, and they
Speaker 6: are all about like, this is what the Bible says,
Speaker 6: and this is how we should believe it. But they
Speaker 6: write article after article going after flat earth and proclaiming
Speaker 6: that the Bible doesn't teach it. So, combined with what
Speaker 6: we talked about before the podcast, how is it in
Speaker 6: your mind why some people can see things so clearly
Speaker 6: but in this one particular subject that they just can't
Speaker 6: see through the clouds of deception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't know why, but I've had the
Speaker 1: same observation. One thing that has helped me a lot
Speaker 1: in perception is when you're having a discussion or a conversation,
Speaker 1: you can view how the conversation's going when it's coming
Speaker 1: across as an attack, you know, because that's what that's
Speaker 1: kind of how you were describing what they do is
Speaker 1: they will attack flat earther is they will try to
Speaker 1: name call, they will you know, speak down on them,
Speaker 1: and that's not a that's not a positive form of communication.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's how the devil attacks this. That's
Speaker 1: how demons attack us. And you know we are the
Speaker 1: vessels that they use to further their goals and deception
Speaker 1: is one of them. So you know they're deceived. And
Speaker 1: I've come to the understanding that the flat earth specifically
Speaker 1: is not a salvation issue. Except that it can be,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the conspiracies and looking
Speaker 1: into them is what brought me closer to the Lord.
Speaker 1: And I've professed Christianity pretty much my whole life. I
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to be raised in a home that,
Speaker 1: you know, they were believers. But you know, as I
Speaker 1: got older and into my twenties and got further away,
Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, I was luke warm is
Speaker 1: unfortunately the best description. So I came back to Christ.
Speaker 1: And part of what brought me back to Christ and
Speaker 1: rededicating my life to Him is, you know, just looking
Speaker 1: into things. You know, like when you look into things
Speaker 1: and you start to figure out the truth, the truth
Speaker 1: really does be free. And how do I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hang up is. It's kind of just a
Speaker 1: blessing that we were able to break through it, because
Speaker 1: it's brainwashing, I guess it would be the best way
Speaker 1: of describing it.
Speaker 6: Man, you hit on a lot of important points there,
Speaker 6: because for me, you know, you consider I considered I
Speaker 6: don't want to speak for anybody else. I considered myself saved, right,
Speaker 6: But I went about my life. I didn't really I
Speaker 6: didn't so much change the way I lived. I just said, well,
Speaker 6: I believe in God now, so that must make me good.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying I was a terrible person. I
Speaker 6: just didn't really walk in the footsteps and post you know,
Speaker 6: these conspiracies, including flat Earth. I started to realize what
Speaker 6: we were up against. And it wasn't really until that
Speaker 6: point where I did a complete change and I tried
Speaker 6: to live and be a better person. So again, like
Speaker 6: you've mentioned and many people have before, is that it
Speaker 6: isn't directly a salvation issue. No, of course not, but
Speaker 6: it does have ramifications. It has brought people to God.
Speaker 6: And you know, I wish I could sit down with
Speaker 6: people like ken Ham and just open up my email
Speaker 6: and show him the hundreds. And we've been doing this
Speaker 6: for a couple of years now. Maybe it's close to
Speaker 6: one thousand people, not just here but around the world
Speaker 6: who understand that. You know, who is the prince of
Speaker 6: this world? You know everything? What's this most powerful tool?
Speaker 6: It's deception? And I mean, if you think and listen,
Speaker 6: once again, I'm not trying to maybe you're new listeners,
Speaker 6: it's the first flat Earth podcast you ever listened to.
Speaker 6: Everybody who you're going to listen to over the course
Speaker 6: of the these interviews, were was always at some point
Speaker 6: on the other side of the fence. But when you
Speaker 6: realize that everything is a lie, and it's a carefully
Speaker 6: created lie, only then do you understand how important this
Speaker 6: syop is. Yeah, well, let's get to your journey to
Speaker 6: the truth, and you know, you talk about I guess
Speaker 6: where did flat Earth fall into those conspiracies? And and
Speaker 6: just to be completely open and transparent here, we did
Speaker 6: talk a little bit about what happened to that school
Speaker 6: in Connecticut about twelve years ago. Right, we are cognizant
Speaker 6: of the fact and we believe that that the official
Speaker 6: story is not the truth. But this is just coming
Speaker 6: from George from me. We're going to save that for
Speaker 6: maybe another podcast on the on the other podcast, because
Speaker 6: that is something we have to be careful about. But
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes there.
Speaker 6: Talk a little bit about your journey to the truth
Speaker 6: and kind of the order of the the rabbit holes
Speaker 6: that you came across.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, twenty twenty was you know, extra
Speaker 1: like it was. It affected everybody at such a high level,
Speaker 1: and I've just come to the point where, you know, Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I don't like using the word blessing because I know
Speaker 1: it was a terrible time for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: but for me, it was a blessing. I you know,
Speaker 1: the marriage didn't work. That was when the divorce happened.
Speaker 1: COVID was upon us, I got furloughed from my job,
Speaker 1: and it was just like everything happening at one time,
Speaker 1: and there's just so many ways that you can handle,
Speaker 1: you know, bad news after bad news after bad news.
Speaker 1: And I guess I'm very fortunate that I do have
Speaker 1: great parents. I'm an only child. I have a great
Speaker 1: group of friends. They you know, especially the friends that
Speaker 1: stuck with me when I believe the earth was a ball.
Speaker 1: And then there's still my friends now, even though they
Speaker 1: might not that same belief. But essentially, when COVID hit
Speaker 1: and everything else, you know, we're in our homes and
Speaker 1: you know, it just gave me more time to go
Speaker 1: down rabbit holes. So before all of the distractions worked
Speaker 1: in their favor, you know, like I was, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to seek happiness, and then eventually looking into these
Speaker 1: conspiracies opened me up to the truth. And then fast
Speaker 1: forward two years later, that's when the biggest of them all,
Speaker 1: which was the flat Earth. I finally was like, you
Speaker 1: know what it is, it is flat like this, this
Speaker 1: is you know, preposterous to continue to play along. But
Speaker 1: it started with the moonlanding. And then as I looked
Speaker 1: into the moon landing and watch videos, and I did
Speaker 1: try to see the other side, right because the debunking
Speaker 1: the moonlanding happening in the late sixties and early seventies
Speaker 1: was very convincing. So then I had to say, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: maybe they're misrepresenting something. And I tried to watch someone
Speaker 1: who was, you know, defending that the moon landing happened,
Speaker 1: and he was speaking the same way you spoke of
Speaker 1: the people like not kin Ham because I don't want
Speaker 1: to don't. I don't think I've ever seen him talk
Speaker 1: negatively about it, but he just kind of dismisses it.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people will talk negatively about flat arthers.
Speaker 1: And this person that I watched, he had you know,
Speaker 1: a quarter of a million followers on social media and
Speaker 1: he was name calling moon landing deniers, cursing, and just
Speaker 1: like in my opinion, he seemed unhinged, but he had
Speaker 1: all the support behind him, you know. The machine was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy we want you to see. And
Speaker 1: I was like, it was very off putting, and so
Speaker 1: unfortunately for them, it backfired. And I just started looking
Speaker 1: more and more down the rabbit hole of what appeared
Speaker 1: to be the truth to me, and I came to
Speaker 1: find out that it was in fact the truth.
Speaker 6: You know, it still blows my mind. And obviously God
Speaker 6: had a hand in this, right, but we know Satan's
Speaker 6: the prince of this world. But it's so interesting that
Speaker 6: the times that Satan can concoct a plan and it
Speaker 6: backfires on him. And I truly believe brother, that twenty
Speaker 6: twenty was a plan that had been in the works
Speaker 6: probably since nineteen sixty eight, right, it's been They used
Speaker 6: it in the nineteenth century with smallpox, they used it
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighteen, and they did it again in twenty
Speaker 6: They've tried different times in sixty eight, in two thousand
Speaker 6: and nine with swine flu, but they went full bore
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty. And I'm telling you, I'd have to
Speaker 6: bet off the top of my head close to the
Speaker 6: two hundred people I've interviewed just on this podcast, ninety
Speaker 6: percent of them COVID in one way or the other.
Speaker 6: Had a significant impact on their awakening process. How can
Speaker 6: that just not be divine divine intervention exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeap, making the big their big thing become our big thing.
Speaker 6: There is of course, you know, part of their plan
Speaker 6: was the wealth transfer, getting rid of the middleman, and
Speaker 6: was shocking to me. If I still go back and
Speaker 6: I'd like to read articles from that time period. September
Speaker 6: twenty eighth, twenty twenty, that was an article in Fortune magazine.
Speaker 6: So again, this is only it kicked off in March,
Speaker 6: March to September, six months. Pardon me, So in just
Speaker 6: that six month time period, one hundred thousand establishments that
Speaker 6: had temporarily shut down due to the pandemic. By September,
Speaker 6: we're completely out of business. So you know, if you
Speaker 6: do the math, you know times number of average employees
Speaker 6: of small businesses. Now, all those people are probably either
Speaker 6: working at Amazon or Walmart or the federal government, right,
Speaker 6: and that's making the world more lopsided. That is giving
Speaker 6: the controllers more control. Now, hopefully many of those people
Speaker 6: were able to start their own businesses and things of
Speaker 6: that nature. But you know, knowing you know those numbers,
Speaker 6: I would say that that was one of their desired
Speaker 6: outcomes was to get rid of the middleman. And if
Speaker 6: you can control you know, it's a monopoly. If you
Speaker 6: control all the assets, then you have a monopoly and
Speaker 6: you can enable this hyper inflation we're seeing. If there's
Speaker 6: no competition, they can set the prices at whatever they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And unfortunately it did work in that regard.
Speaker 1: They did transfer the wealth, you know, not all of it,
Speaker 1: but they succeeded in that aspect of their plan. But
Speaker 1: I think that the backfire was bigger than their success.
Speaker 6: I agree with you. Now, I guess coming from if
Speaker 6: you didn't get vaccinated, and you know you came out ahead,
Speaker 6: that's probably the way you see it. Unfortunately, there's against
Speaker 6: I spoke to doctor Calcer yesterday and the amount of
Speaker 6: turbo cancer, no not just cancer, but how quickly the
Speaker 6: cancer is moving is just completely shocking. So I do
Speaker 6: truly hope that this was an awakening, a permanent awakening
Speaker 6: for the next thing that I think is going to
Speaker 6: come in our lifetime, might even come and then during
Speaker 6: this president's admitted straation. But you're right, it is it
Speaker 6: was a blessing in disguise. You know, we took Satan's
Speaker 6: tool from his toolbox and used it against him, like
Speaker 6: we are right now, Technology very much can be a
Speaker 6: double edged sword. You had talked about how it sounds
Speaker 6: like to me when you were talking about your friends,
Speaker 6: that you have had successes in sharing flat Earth with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have again twenty twenty isolated us. So you know,
Speaker 1: in going through those rabbit holes and conspiracy theories, I
Speaker 1: shared them with a friend and you know he didn't
Speaker 1: want to shout out, but you know, we all have
Speaker 1: to manage our you know, our public persona accordingly because
Speaker 1: you know people, you will get attacked, like, there will
Speaker 1: be some negative communication I expect as a result, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get it frequently, so it's to be
Speaker 1: expected and you have to just kind of fight through it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't mind, could you repeat the question
Speaker 1: one more time, just being.
Speaker 6: Able to take, you know, a tool from Satan's toolbox
Speaker 6: and defeed them with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to otherwise it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: And that's what the deception is. Yeah. Oh, I went
Speaker 1: through the conspiracies just by sharing them. And it starts,
Speaker 1: like I said, the moon landing, and we were my
Speaker 1: friend and I were talking about the moon landing. And
Speaker 1: one thing I've also realized is as he went through
Speaker 1: the moon landing, the school in Connecticut that was mentioned,
Speaker 1: and a few other things we did rough like I
Speaker 1: bounced things off of him, he bounced things off of me.
Speaker 1: And then what I've also found out is when I
Speaker 1: bring up some of the lesser conspiracies, because the moon
Speaker 1: landing ones almost I think it's pretty close to fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty at this point. It's just that most people
Speaker 1: haven't taken the time to think about it. So I
Speaker 1: have one friend of mine and I told him about
Speaker 1: the moon landy and he said, I can see where
Speaker 1: you think that, but I still think it happened. And
Speaker 1: I said, okay, no worries. And then we were having
Speaker 1: a play day because I had my kids and he
Speaker 1: has kids, and I was over at his place and
Speaker 1: I you know, he was he kind of brought up
Speaker 1: my belief to his in front of his wife, and
Speaker 1: his wife was like, oh, yeah, I don't think we
Speaker 1: went to the moon, but she's not a flat Earth.
Speaker 1: She was sure to distance herself from that. But I
Speaker 1: could see the surprise on his faces, like, whit you
Speaker 1: don't think we went to the moon, And she was like, no,
Speaker 1: just there's too much. It doesn't make sense. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, there's probably a lot of people out
Speaker 1: there that you know, have that belief and maybe just
Speaker 1: don't verbalize it until they have the opportunity. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you're around me and we're friendly, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you the opportunity.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's why I think it's important for people
Speaker 6: to I know, in some for some people, it's very difficult,
Speaker 6: and for some settings it's very difficult, whether it be
Speaker 6: work or church or at with your best friends who
Speaker 6: may totally be into worldly things, right, are more worried
Speaker 6: about the latest number one hit, the concerts, the football
Speaker 6: game than having a conversation and all of those things.
Speaker 6: I understand you have to take into context when trying
Speaker 6: to get that out there, but you can be very
Speaker 6: creative in just like Edward Burneese, he would take this
Speaker 6: is where I want to get to, So you backwards plan, right,
Speaker 6: whether it's the Torches of Freedom, right, the cigarette companies
Speaker 6: go to Edward Burnees. Women don't smoke. How can we
Speaker 6: get people to smoke? Well, we want to give them freedom,
Speaker 6: so they're going to break out cigarettes On Easter Sunday
Speaker 6: nineteen twenty nine, light their cigarettes and say, men can't
Speaker 6: tell us what to do anymore. And within five years
Speaker 6: women's smokers increased by twenty six percent. Right, and all
Speaker 6: these things they understand psychology, and psychology is an extremely
Speaker 6: important weapon for them. With that being said, we need
Speaker 6: to be critical and unique in our right. How can
Speaker 6: we start a conversation that I know within a coup
Speaker 6: couple of you know, back and forth, that I could
Speaker 6: just leave an opening to even drop a subtle hint
Speaker 6: to whether it be you want to talk about Jesus,
Speaker 6: whether you want to talk about flat Earth or nine
Speaker 6: to eleven, anything like that. You can be you know,
Speaker 6: you don't always have to just come, you know, print
Speaker 6: up a flyer and hand it to someone, or just
Speaker 6: walk up to someone and say, hey, my name's George.
Speaker 6: I think the Earth is flat. What do you think?
Speaker 6: Right there? There are so many ways that we can
Speaker 6: be creative, and I think us, especially here in the
Speaker 6: United States, as a society, we're very creative people and
Speaker 6: we just have to put a little time and effort
Speaker 6: into it. And I think we can. I don't like
Speaker 6: to use the word and manipulate as a good word,
Speaker 6: but we can manipulate a conversation into something that we
Speaker 6: want to talk about that you know, is defined and good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, when you were talking about torches of freedom,
Speaker 1: I just wrote down a note, so I wouldn't forget
Speaker 1: back then that was what was done to increase the
Speaker 1: bottom line for businesses most likely fullp mor So, I'm
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure, but whatever the major cigarette
Speaker 1: player was at the time, and then the modern version
Speaker 1: of that from my perspective is of course the independent
Speaker 1: woman you know, don't need no man and essentially forcing
Speaker 1: them back out into the workforce. That way, the government
Speaker 1: can take their taxes just like they take the taxes
Speaker 1: of the men that they've employed for so long. So
Speaker 1: that's extra money for the government. And of course the
Speaker 1: businesses do increase their bottom line with the ability to
Speaker 1: produce more so just the same tricks, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he brought up the devil in his deceit,
Speaker 1: and it's a manipulation. So a lot of the good
Speaker 1: natured thoughts and beliefs that we have, unfortunately get used
Speaker 1: against us. And the thing that I always bring up
Speaker 1: when talking about some of my friends that still think
Speaker 1: the same way they did when we were in elementary school,
Speaker 1: is that their tolerance is being used against them. You know,
Speaker 1: you should not be tolerant of any of all things
Speaker 1: that unfortunately comes back to bite you, sometimes ten times
Speaker 1: harder than it would have if you just sit now
Speaker 1: in the first place.
Speaker 6: You made an excellent point, because I literally wrote this
Speaker 6: in my article today. It was more than just business
Speaker 6: and cigarettes. It was the first, well, I believe in
Speaker 6: my heart, it was one of the first major steps
Speaker 6: of the ruling elite and their destruction of the nuclear family.
Speaker 6: Marx wrote it in the Communist Manifesto. Right, but Burneze,
Speaker 6: Edward Burneze sought the advice of a very socialist psychoanalyst
Speaker 6: by the name of AA Brill. And if you've never
Speaker 6: heard of him, just look up his Wikipedia page and
Speaker 6: he is of, you know, just the example of socialism, right,
Speaker 6: and he's embedded with the usual suspects, and you'll understand
Speaker 6: what I mean. But Brill said to Burnez, he said,
Speaker 6: quote and this is when he went to When Edward
Speaker 6: Barnes went to Brill about advice for the torches of freedom,
Speaker 6: Burnez was told by Brill quote. Today, the emancipation of
Speaker 6: women has suppressed many of their feminine desires. More women
Speaker 6: now do the same work as men do. Many women
Speaker 6: bear no children, those who do bear have fewer children.
Speaker 6: Feminine traits are masked. Cigarettes, which are equated with men,
Speaker 6: became torches of freedom. So you can see the subtle
Speaker 6: meaning behind it, and that, like you said, that led
Speaker 6: into the fifties, the women going back, well even in
Speaker 6: the forties of World War Two, but going back in
Speaker 6: the workforce and then taking the children and you know,
Speaker 6: putting them in the hands of the Department of Education.
Speaker 6: And like you said, not only are they getting tax
Speaker 6: money from Dad, they're getting taxpayer money from mom.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, it's a very sick system and at its
Speaker 1: core it targets the most vulnerable, which is the children.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't even mention that, so I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought that up. Yeah, they're robbing money from us and
Speaker 1: doing so, they're forcing us to put our children, our
Speaker 1: most precious resource, in their control for uh, you know,
Speaker 1: eight hour work days like they're adults.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's shocking. I did some research for this article.
Speaker 6: If you look at the the literacy rates among some
Speaker 6: of the big the biggest cities, uh in the country.
Speaker 6: It's rather sad. And somebody said it perfectly the other day.
Speaker 6: I don't remember which person it was, but they said,
Speaker 6: thirteen years of a lot of busy work. But but
Speaker 6: what did they really learn?
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, you know, teach them everything about nothing right.
Speaker 6: Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. Teach
Speaker 6: them everything about nothing right. I know flat earth is
Speaker 6: a huge one. And I before I divert to another area,
Speaker 6: what are your six uh you know, silver bullets, ones
Speaker 6: that you just can't look past?
Speaker 1: It's so far. I'm glad you ask, because I had
Speaker 1: a hard time writing down just six because they're all
Speaker 1: very they're very layered into one another. And this is
Speaker 1: in no particular order because I wrote biblical second, but
Speaker 1: I should have written at first. I heard someone else
Speaker 1: on your show say this, and they were one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. Some people, when you bring up biblical reference
Speaker 1: to as a proof of flat earth, they're just shutting
Speaker 1: you off right away. So I try to be very
Speaker 1: mindful of that so I know who I'm speaking with,
Speaker 1: and if the Bible can ring true to them and
Speaker 1: help them see the truth, then I'll use that as
Speaker 1: a proof. So that's one is the Bible and it
Speaker 1: doesn't ring true to them, then I would try to
Speaker 1: avoid it. And then I'll go to this other one,
Speaker 1: which would be water doesn't curve, and I would just say,
Speaker 1: we have such a large sample size with the oceans
Speaker 1: and lakes, and there's no test that can be ran
Speaker 1: that the water will curve to adhere to a different
Speaker 1: shape object. You can't have an open air vacuum without
Speaker 1: a container next to another space, so that you know,
Speaker 1: outer space doesn't work. The altered video images that they
Speaker 1: show us from space just kind of points to the
Speaker 1: fact that it's not true, because why would you go
Speaker 1: to all the trouble of faking it if you could
Speaker 1: just show them the truth. We can see too far.
Speaker 1: And then crepuscular rays from the sun. I just like that.
Speaker 1: I can remember that big word. So the fact that
Speaker 1: the crepuscular rays tell you the angle and when you
Speaker 1: when you use that for your reference and measurement, you get,
Speaker 1: you know, several thousand miles most likely as opposed to
Speaker 1: the ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that. While we're on the
Speaker 6: topic of biblical examples, one verse that I don't think
Speaker 6: we talk about enough is seventy five to three, and
Speaker 6: it talks about how you know the earth is on
Speaker 6: pillars nice so. And again when you ask someone who
Speaker 6: is a biblical scholar, you know, you point this out
Speaker 6: to them, you know, they'll refer back to their eschatology
Speaker 6: and they'll they'll tell you that, well, it's just a proverb.
Speaker 6: It's just a way it's presented. It's not really you
Speaker 6: can't take it seriously. And then that gets back into
Speaker 6: Joshua ten thirteen and all of these other things. Then
Speaker 6: you know, who would judicates what was real and what
Speaker 6: was just you know, kind of used as a verb
Speaker 6: just to kind of describe something right with fancy words.
Speaker 1: Correct. I agree, And that's a hard part for a
Speaker 1: lot of people to wrap their minds around. That was
Speaker 1: part of the conspiracy that ran true to me when
Speaker 1: I was looking into stuff. So like people that would
Speaker 1: say the flood was an allegory, or you know, the
Speaker 1: son didn't stand still. It's like I've now come to
Speaker 1: my understanding is that those things physically happened. And ken Ham,
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I think I was getting his
Speaker 1: last name wrong before. It is him correct. Yeah, he referenced,
Speaker 1: and I think it's in Turkey. There's a city with
Speaker 1: a you know, a local name that means five men,
Speaker 1: and that's the city where the arc that supposedly rested.
Speaker 1: And he showed some footage and it looks like the
Speaker 1: the arc that would have been built by the measurements
Speaker 1: that were explained in the book is in the Book
Speaker 1: of Genesis. So yeah, like these things really happened, Joan.
Speaker 1: I got swallowed by a well and you know, like
Speaker 1: it was a different time it was. You know, there's
Speaker 1: chariot wheels in the Red Sea. You know, all of
Speaker 1: all of these things they happened. And the only way
Speaker 1: that you think they don't happen is you you're distracted.
Speaker 1: Because if you do take the time to go look
Speaker 1: into it, you'll you'll see all the evidence that I
Speaker 1: laid out, and I only laid out just a little
Speaker 1: droplet of it. So biblical proofs are amazing. And so
Speaker 1: the Bible contains everything that you need, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't contain everything. So that's why it's nice to be
Speaker 1: able to talk and relate to other people that maybe
Speaker 1: don't use the Bible or don't read it as regularly
Speaker 1: as they should, and you know, I fall in my group.
Speaker 1: I don't read as often as I should. I'm currently
Speaker 1: going through the Bible in the Year podcast just because
Speaker 1: that's how I consume information better. So I'm a few
Speaker 1: days behind. But they actually just did today. The reading
Speaker 1: that I listened to today was about the Sun standing
Speaker 1: still in the Book of Joshua. So it's nice when
Speaker 1: I come across the chance a local reference outside of
Speaker 1: the podcast that i'm seeking that confirm what it is
Speaker 1: that make up my beliefs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes you don't even have to be looking for
Speaker 6: something when you find it. Yes, what was the name
Speaker 6: of that podcast? You had a little bit of distortion
Speaker 6: when you said it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Bible in the Year podcast. I'm not Catholic,
Speaker 1: but it's by father Mike Schmidt.
Speaker 6: I got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the only one that I found, and you
Speaker 1: know not, I'm not trying to I'm just not Catholic.
Speaker 6: So I just wanted to know I got there's actually
Speaker 6: on YouTube too. Now, Yeah, they're they're three hundred and
Speaker 6: sixty five little episodes, and the entire Bible's broken down
Speaker 6: into three hundred and sixty five days. So you can
Speaker 6: literally read or you know the audio version here at
Speaker 6: in the course of the year.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and what was I think I had something
Speaker 1: pop into my mind, but it popped out just as quick,
Speaker 1: so I apologize.
Speaker 6: Oh, sorry for me all the time. Yeah, go ahead
Speaker 6: with your other proofs.
Speaker 1: Well, those are the six that I wrote down.
Speaker 6: Okay, that was all six.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm personally very intrigued by the moon. I'm
Speaker 1: in a couple of different group chats there. There's like
Speaker 1: layers to the conspiracy theory, right, so, I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of it might be political, talking about how great
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey is, and he is great. You know, no,
Speaker 1: I'm no shane it. You know some of the politicians
Speaker 1: that are out there actually trying to do some good.
Speaker 1: But that's not where I tend to operate that much.
Speaker 1: But I keep it keeps eluding me a little bit.
Speaker 1: On man, I lost it again.
Speaker 6: The moon.
Speaker 1: The moon. Yeah, so we're all in in this group chat.
Speaker 1: We're all in, thank you. We're all in different parts
Speaker 1: of the country. So when I see I was in
Speaker 1: out on the West coast for a little while, and
Speaker 1: so when I'm seeing the moon at ten am and
Speaker 1: three pm, and you know, they're on you know, I
Speaker 1: have friends in Florida, there's friends in Texas, and like,
Speaker 1: they can see the moon. And I was like, the
Speaker 1: other side of the globe, it's middle of the night,
Speaker 1: you know, like if it's a half moon, they should
Speaker 1: be able to see it, you know, like and it
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense on a ball earth. But the
Speaker 1: other side, when I was in California at the time,
Speaker 1: I had to kind of I didn't do a little
Speaker 1: bit of research to find this out, But the other
Speaker 1: side of the globe from California is roughly Madagascar, off
Speaker 1: the coast of Africa, and there's just so much ocean
Speaker 1: out there that you know, almost all of the United
Speaker 1: States the other side of the globe. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to get a literal twelve hour difference of you know,
Speaker 1: why can't I see the moon in the middle of
Speaker 1: the day. They should be able to see the moon
Speaker 1: at night. But you can't really just reach out to
Speaker 1: people in Madagascar.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's there's a there's a divisiveness that's preventing us from
Speaker 1: being able to do the level of research that might
Speaker 1: be helpful for some. So thank you for helping me
Speaker 1: remember that. But watching the moon. It's behaving odd even
Speaker 1: for like current in current times. And you know, I
Speaker 1: guess that's in revelation right where there will be signs
Speaker 1: in the stars and the moon and the sun.
Speaker 6: Yeah. If you you know, it's very interesting if I
Speaker 6: can eject real quick, if you go to Bible dot Com,
Speaker 6: which I use a lot for when I'm searching keywords,
Speaker 6: if you just put moon in and you look at
Speaker 6: all of the scripture surrounding the moon, it really rains
Speaker 6: true to our biblical cosmology. And how you know they
Speaker 6: used the moon and the sun and the stars for
Speaker 6: seasons and for this and for that. And you know,
Speaker 6: whether I just had the verse in front of me
Speaker 6: in Jobed talking about Oh I just had it in
Speaker 6: front of me. Behold even the moon and it shineth not. Yeay,
Speaker 6: the stars are not pure in its light, and the
Speaker 6: Bible does tell us that it is a lesser light,
Speaker 6: it's a secondary light. And that's going all the way
Speaker 6: back to the moonlanding. If you show someone's scripture, and
Speaker 6: there are probably sixty or seventy Bible verses that talk
Speaker 6: about the sun and what science tells us, and then
Speaker 6: you look at the moon landing, right, you look in
Speaker 6: the sky, I see a bright plasma, something interesting, And
Speaker 6: then these guys are huffing around in a lunar lander
Speaker 6: with dust kicking up. I mean, that is the ultimate mockery,
Speaker 6: isn't it?
Speaker 1: It is? And it just shows how little they think
Speaker 1: of us. I don't know the exact name of the law,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the
Speaker 1: inverse square law of light, right, because if we're seeing
Speaker 1: the moon is reflective and bright as it is here,
Speaker 1: the closer you get to it, it's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be dimmer and dull. But yet that's what they expect
Speaker 1: us to believe. Another thing with the moon that was
Speaker 1: interesting to me was when I learned that the reflective
Speaker 1: light from the moon, which I don't even think it's reflective,
Speaker 1: but rather the light from the moon is colder than
Speaker 1: the shade around it. And God blessed the girl that
Speaker 1: I'm dating now because she allowed me to open this
Speaker 1: as a conversation point and she heard me, and I
Speaker 1: think it was received. And you know, when someone's coming
Speaker 1: around to something like that, I definitely don't want to
Speaker 1: push you hard, so I gauge that she didn't really
Speaker 1: want to hear anymore. But at least she learned that
Speaker 1: when something's reflecting a light source that contains heat, the
Speaker 1: reflective light should not be colder than the source. So
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Correct, The shade around it
Speaker 1: and the light could be the same temperature, But the
Speaker 1: light being colder than the shade around it tells us
Speaker 1: that it's not a reflection of light.
Speaker 6: Right. And if what they tell us how the moon
Speaker 6: reflects sunlight, wouldn't the moon be anything but a big
Speaker 6: dusty ball.
Speaker 1: Right exactly? Sand does not reflect that.
Speaker 6: Well, no it doesn't. And I spent five and a
Speaker 6: half years in the desert. I can tell you. You
Speaker 6: can see you can see the heat above the sand.
Speaker 6: You know you can see that, But no, it doesn't.
Speaker 6: Actually snow reflects a heck of ten times worse than
Speaker 6: sand does. I can tell you that. Yeah. The inverse
Speaker 6: square law states that the intensity of light from a
Speaker 6: point source decreases proportionally to the square of the distance
Speaker 6: from the source. Yes, thank you, yep.
Speaker 1: And there's so many things that it's hard to remember
Speaker 1: them all.
Speaker 6: Oh, trust me, I know.
Speaker 1: The further down the rabbit hole I go with the
Speaker 1: flat earth. It's just It's comical that I was able
Speaker 1: to be tricked so much, because before twenty twenty, I
Speaker 1: was fully immersed and like millions and billions of years ago,
Speaker 1: and it was all so interesting. And I even watched
Speaker 1: the relaunch of Into the Cosmos with Neil de grass Tyson,
Speaker 1: who at this point in time I now realized to
Speaker 1: be a clown. Yeah, and I try not to name
Speaker 1: call because I know it takes away from the point,
Speaker 1: but if his arguments are very weak. And there is
Speaker 1: one thing I did try to find before our call,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't find it because the machine is actively
Speaker 1: working behind the scenes to make sure that they're spokespeople,
Speaker 1: Nilda grass Tyson being one of them, don't put their
Speaker 1: foot in their mouth too far of an extent. And
Speaker 1: so the one time that I remember seeing I saw
Speaker 1: him commenting on a football game where a field goal
Speaker 1: kick was missed, and I think he was talking to
Speaker 1: his name, Chuck Woolery, Yep, yeah, Chuck Woolery. And then
Speaker 1: there was a woman who's been on ESPN or one
Speaker 1: of these other I think her name is Kate, not
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure, but he was talking to them,
Speaker 1: and he talked about a field goal kick being missed
Speaker 1: in part possibly due to the spin or rotation of
Speaker 1: the Earth, And like I saw that, I guess twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one maybe when I was doing my research, and
Speaker 1: the person who posted it was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: really going in on Neil de Grasse Tyson as he should,
Speaker 1: because it was such a ludicrous claim that it makes
Speaker 1: you think like, well, if a field goal Kicks association
Speaker 1: going to be a just or affected by the spin
Speaker 1: of the earth, And how are planes landing? You know,
Speaker 1: why do runways go all different kinds of directions? It
Speaker 1: just really it forces the person to be like, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. And in trying to find that
Speaker 1: clip again, I've had more and more difficulty as time
Speaker 1: has gone on.
Speaker 6: Do you want me to play that clip real quick?
Speaker 6: Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, you found it.
Speaker 6: I found it. Here we go. It should play right
Speaker 6: right away, Here we go.
Speaker 7: I was channel surfing one day, waiting for a movie
Speaker 7: to come on. At the top of the hour, I
Speaker 7: hit a football game and they just ended the game
Speaker 7: at a time and they just started over. So that's
Speaker 7: about right. Let me just watch this. How bad could
Speaker 7: it be? After the necessary exchange of possession. It became
Speaker 7: sudden death overtime, and then one of the team's, Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 7: got within fifty yards and they kicked the field goal
Speaker 7: and the ball rotated up. It hit the left upright
Speaker 7: of the goalpost and went in. And I said, ooh,
Speaker 7: wait a minute, which stadium is this? What's the latitude?
Speaker 7: And I looked at the orientation of the stadium. I
Speaker 7: did a calculation, and then I tweeted the overtime winning
Speaker 7: field goal by the Cincinnati Bengals was likely aided by
Speaker 7: a one third of an inch deflection to the right
Speaker 7: imparted by Earth's rotation.
Speaker 6: You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for finding that.
Speaker 6: I'll put it in the show notes so people can
Speaker 6: share that as well.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's just comedy. That's so so much comedy.
Speaker 6: Amazing he can say that with a straight face.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 6: Unbelievable. And so many people are nerding out over that.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 6: You know, I bet you imagine this video alone has
Speaker 6: five million views.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 6: And you said the comments because this is from a
Speaker 6: website called Universe Liars, so they champion the scientific stuff.
Speaker 6: This is exactly what I was thinking. You know, it's
Speaker 6: crazy how many people five million views and all the
Speaker 6: comments are like this is awesome, two hundred and eighteen
Speaker 6: thousand likes. But this is the kind of thing that
Speaker 6: once you're out of the matrix, you're like, wow, like
Speaker 6: you really understand how much nonsense is involved with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean like, if I listened to that clipping,
Speaker 1: I might have just dismissed it or went on about
Speaker 1: my day. But after being awake, you listen to it
Speaker 1: and you're like, that is the most absurd se when
Speaker 1: I've heard in quite a while by someone who's a
Speaker 1: quote unquote astrophysicist.
Speaker 6: But that that's really not just as a person, as
Speaker 6: a man who has a family, but as a Christian.
Speaker 6: You need to understand that the attack that we are
Speaker 6: under it's not just you know, vaccines and and fluoride
Speaker 6: and and cam trails and usury and all these other things.
Speaker 6: The biggest part of this war psychological, and people need
Speaker 6: to snap out of the matrix and really be aware
Speaker 6: what's going on, especially in this day and age.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely right.
Speaker 6: What you know, we discussed a lot about the flat Earth.
Speaker 6: There are a few other things I wanted to ask specifically,
Speaker 6: This is something that I've never really delved into, this
Speaker 6: thing about pandace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little silly, funny one. You know, my
Speaker 1: daughters know my beliefs on a lot of things. So
Speaker 1: I saw a it was a TikTok, and they made
Speaker 1: some very interest seeing points about pandas and how they
Speaker 1: kind of just randomly came about in like the early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, and I'm they don't make sense, right, So
Speaker 1: a few things, a few facts about pandas. Is a
Speaker 1: group of pandas is called an embarrassment. I think that's
Speaker 1: them just kind of having fun with at our expense,
Speaker 1: and you know, coming up with that name. They're very clumsy,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't seem like I don't understand how they'd
Speaker 1: survive in the wild. For them to be a type
Speaker 1: of bear, they should be eating meat. They should be carnivorous, right,
Speaker 1: But yet all they eat is either a eucalyptus or bamboo.
Speaker 1: I forget which one. I think it's a bamboo because
Speaker 1: a kowala is eat the eucalyptus. So the statement was
Speaker 1: made that pandas are fake, and some people took that
Speaker 1: to mean like they're like, it's a man in a
Speaker 1: panda suit or something like that. They do they look
Speaker 1: I don't know, they look more present than other animals,
Speaker 1: but like other wild animals, and apparently they only like
Speaker 1: can reproduce one day out of the year. They're not
Speaker 1: very interested in reproducing. It just this doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: a species that would be able to survive. The last
Speaker 1: thing fact on pandas that really caught my attention is
Speaker 1: that every panda except one is owned by the country
Speaker 1: of China. So if you go to the San Diego
Speaker 1: Zoo or whatever zoo maybe has a panda, those are
Speaker 1: on lease from the country of China. There was only
Speaker 1: one panda, and it was in Mexico female that was
Speaker 1: I guess owned by Mexico or not owned by China.
Speaker 1: And that panda was is or was too old to
Speaker 1: have children. So there are there's no threat of any
Speaker 1: pandas being born outside of being owned by China and all.
Speaker 1: That was just extremely interesting information. What you do with that,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know what I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to do with it, but I just repeat the part
Speaker 1: that I remember and is there something there? It seems
Speaker 1: like it. I just don't know what it is. Like,
Speaker 1: I guess the last thing I'll say on it is
Speaker 1: it seems like maybe Panjas were bred almost dogs were,
Speaker 1: but in the bear community, and I just there's a
Speaker 1: lot that I don't know when it comes to breeds
Speaker 1: of dogs compared to breeds of bears.
Speaker 6: I'm just spitbowling here. But I'm looking at the timeline
Speaker 6: that it talks about, and I think they started to
Speaker 6: become prevalent in like the late They claim officially that
Speaker 6: they've been around for three hundred thousand years, right, that's
Speaker 6: the first thing they say, But then they talk about
Speaker 6: they didn't really come to be prevalent until the late
Speaker 6: nineteenth century, which is a lot of the you know,
Speaker 6: people think there was a reset involved there or the
Speaker 6: fall of the Tartarians, which what if this was one
Speaker 6: of the last surviving species of Tataria.
Speaker 1: It very well could be. Yeah, I am a I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I'm a believer in
Speaker 1: Tartarius specifically, but I definitely know that there's a good
Speaker 1: chunk of our history and then there's you know, there's technology,
Speaker 1: there's buildings and everything else. So I just don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Tartaria technically means, but I guess it's
Speaker 1: been on a few of the old maps that have
Speaker 1: been found, right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's it's that's quite
Speaker 1: possibly a good explanation. I'd love for anybody out there
Speaker 1: listening that maybe knows a little bit more about pandas.
Speaker 1: You said, you put my email on the notes. If
Speaker 1: they want to send me something, I'll love to look
Speaker 1: at it, because the panda thing is just it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the most unique thing to me because I know
Speaker 1: very everything I know about panda's possibly being fake.
Speaker 6: I said, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, you got a murder
Speaker 6: of crows and an embarrassment of pandas. Yeah, that is
Speaker 6: really interesting. And yeah, you're right, China owns just about
Speaker 6: all of the pandas. They there's one in San Diego.
Speaker 6: Apparently there was one in Mexico for a time in
Speaker 6: the eighties and it didn't make it into adulthood. Once again,
Speaker 6: some of the things that you could go through life
Speaker 6: and not even pay attention to, there's a rabbit hole
Speaker 6: involved with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I could. I'm glad I can
Speaker 1: impart that on you. Yeah, so you can think about
Speaker 1: pandas now in a completely different light. They look like
Speaker 1: they look like there's something present behind the eyes a
Speaker 1: little bit more than just if you see a wild bear.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because, like I looked up panda attacks,
Speaker 1: because with them not being carnivorous, it makes sense that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't really have that aggressive nature. And there was
Speaker 1: a zoo keeper that it said was attacked and it
Speaker 1: was in Asia, I would imagine China, and it just
Speaker 1: looked like a dog had grabbed a hold of it,
Speaker 1: and it was just it wasn't even like really vicious.
Speaker 1: The person was like patiently waiting for the attack to
Speaker 1: stop so that way they could you know, finish going
Speaker 1: on about their day taking care of the other animals
Speaker 1: or the enclosure area.
Speaker 6: What if I told you I already found a link
Speaker 6: between pandas and freemasons. Really wow, So pre nineteen fifties,
Speaker 6: while there were a few ancient records of the giant panda,
Speaker 6: during the Manchu dynasty, skins of this animal were sent
Speaker 6: as a tribute to the government of China by the
Speaker 6: aboriginists of western Sejuin and eastern Tibet. According to David
Speaker 6: Crockett Graham. And would you know, there's a link there
Speaker 6: and you click on David Crockett Graham. He was a
Speaker 6: American Baptist minister educator. He's got all the names, and
Speaker 6: he was a thirty second degree Mason and past master
Speaker 6: of the Sejuin Lodge number one twelve from nineteen twenty
Speaker 6: one to nineteen forty two. And he also was responsible
Speaker 6: was responsible for putting over four hundred thousand specimens and
Speaker 6: things of that nature in the Smithsonian Institute. Which is enough.
Speaker 1: Boy, don't get me started on this. We need a
Speaker 1: whole other podcast to talk about the Smithsonian.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that is trolled history right there. So you
Speaker 6: that to me, that validates at least when we say
Speaker 6: fake pandas, the true history of what they are, where
Speaker 6: they came from, and things of that nature, right.
Speaker 1: Right, correct? Exactly? Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like it when we get when something that could be
Speaker 1: true gets falsely labeled, Like if I say pandas are fake,
Speaker 1: and then people are like, oh, you think they're robots
Speaker 1: or you think it's a human in a pandit suit,
Speaker 1: and it's like, now we're having a completely unrelated, unhelpful
Speaker 1: conversation about you know something that you know, there's something there,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: But isn't that what did you ever hear birds aren't real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I heard that as well. I did avoid that conspiracy.
Speaker 1: But there's some compelling stuff out there. I just I
Speaker 1: had to you know, there's only twenty four hours in
Speaker 1: a day. I had to cut some stuff out.
Speaker 6: Well. And here's the thing, and again you have to
Speaker 6: be careful how you word things. You know, c IA
Speaker 6: use pigeons for intelligence gatherings that there are people who
Speaker 6: believe that DARPA does have you know, like uh drone
Speaker 6: birds that basically look like birds that you know, they
Speaker 6: can use to to spy on people like because if
Speaker 6: you're out there having a conversation with your your your
Speaker 6: friend about you know, taking over the state of Delaware
Speaker 6: and a bird lands and a tree, you're not going
Speaker 6: to pay attention, right, You're just gonna keep talking. If
Speaker 6: a car drives by, you're going to be quiet and
Speaker 6: act like nothing's going on. So and these projects, by
Speaker 6: the way, the these birds that carry cameras and microphones,
Speaker 6: they've been going on since the seventies. Look at uh
Speaker 6: Operation uh to Kana. I think it is t A
Speaker 6: C A and a uh so they've been using birds
Speaker 6: as I don't want to say weapons, but they've been
Speaker 6: using birds as spy. Yeah, basically to surveil, Yes, to
Speaker 6: surveil us, right the because we're the enemy. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it's the use of birds has gone back. But to
Speaker 6: simply say things like birds are fake, that that's the
Speaker 6: the negative kind of tatione that can chase people away
Speaker 6: from the truth community, right correct.
Speaker 1: And they've gotten very clever at being able to undermine
Speaker 1: any because if they do that and then you call
Speaker 1: them on it, they have to have a back. They
Speaker 1: have to have a plan, a diversion, right you have.
Speaker 1: They have to have a getaway or an escape clause.
Speaker 1: And you know, so they're like, we'll come over the
Speaker 1: top and we'll be on their side, but we'll label
Speaker 1: them as you know, claiming birds aren't real.
Speaker 6: By the way, Operation to Kana didn't even get what
Speaker 6: do you call it a proof or release until twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: Oh really, wow, somebody requested an fy document, so now
Speaker 6: it's available on their website. I did find the original
Speaker 6: document from November nineteen seventy five. I'll put that in
Speaker 6: the show notes as well, talking about how they used
Speaker 6: birds for surveillance, and again, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know that would be interesting for me to learn
Speaker 1: a little bit more about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're talking fifty years ago, so to think
Speaker 6: what they had back then, whether it was the heart
Speaker 6: attack gun which came up in the church, to Kana
Speaker 6: using birds for surveillance. You can just im well, you know,
Speaker 6: you know Amazon, the cameras on your cell phone, they
Speaker 6: can track you and surveil you without even trying.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I would imagine the birds were useful at
Speaker 1: one point in time, but you're right, with us carrying
Speaker 1: around our spy devices on us all the time, they
Speaker 1: don't really need the birds so much.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, was there other rabbit holes that you went down
Speaker 6: that you started connecting dots and thought, wow, this is
Speaker 6: this is a this is wow, and then when you
Speaker 6: backed off it and actually looked, you really understood how
Speaker 6: evil it was?
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't. I guess the best thing for me
Speaker 1: to point to would be, uh, Brigitte Macron that Candice
Speaker 1: Owens did her series on that really helps open up
Speaker 1: a lot of like what that might that. My only
Speaker 1: response on that would be to say that I don't
Speaker 1: believe that's the only case of that being what was happening, you.
Speaker 6: Know, no George H. W. Bush's wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made they made skits about it on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live with Will Ferrell. You know did that.
Speaker 6: I don't remember that one.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, maybe he was playing Jane Reno
Speaker 1: now that now that I yeah, but yeah, oh yeah
Speaker 1: she was she was a bit manly herself. Correct. So
Speaker 1: that's one that I wouldn't have expected to have some
Speaker 1: truth to it. But I've I've thoroughly enjoyed Candice Owen's
Speaker 1: investigative style on a lot of different things. I really
Speaker 1: thought you did a great job on the Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter movement and showing how corrupt and fraudulent it was.
Speaker 1: So I really give her a lot of credit for
Speaker 1: doing that. And I just I like everybody who's out
Speaker 1: there trying to spread the truth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, so she's left that platform. I
Speaker 6: forget what it was called, the Daily Wall. Yeah, they're
Speaker 6: they're collapsing. They just let off I think twenty five
Speaker 6: percent of their workforce. So yeah, you know, we're in
Speaker 6: a time and space now where people can can tell
Speaker 6: if you're in it for the truth or if you're
Speaker 6: in it for the money. And that money is the
Speaker 6: truth isn't coming out because of the money. You look
Speaker 6: like the Daily Wire. You look like Tim Poole. I
Speaker 6: think his name is.
Speaker 1: I used to watch Tim Pool religiously, but I think
Speaker 1: I just outgrew it, is the best way of describing it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can only look at a grown man with
Speaker 6: the beanie for so long in a skateboarder, but you
Speaker 6: can tell when he started getting that money, he had
Speaker 6: shut down shows, just completely shut it down when you
Speaker 6: brought up certain certain subjects, and you know, it's just
Speaker 6: it's sad to see, but you know it goes to say,
Speaker 6: you know, I forget what I was going to say. Basically,
Speaker 6: you know you can tell who rules by who you
Speaker 6: can't question or you can't talk about Voltaire's quote not
Speaker 6: completely mind fart there.
Speaker 1: No, it's a right. When you brought up the Daily Wire,
Speaker 1: what I thought of was Jeremy Boring, who just stepped
Speaker 1: down as the CEO. I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: co CEO or what the case was, but it did
Speaker 1: like because I was aware of The Daily Wire circa
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty, and I didn't like when he referred
Speaker 1: to himself as the God King. And I know he
Speaker 1: clarified by saying lowercase G. But that kind of gave
Speaker 1: you insight into the mentality of like how the business
Speaker 1: was ran. Like at the very least, that's borderline blasphemous
Speaker 1: from a religious conservative viewpoint, which is their whole entra
Speaker 1: And it just showed that he kind of wasn't it
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons like you said.
Speaker 6: Yep, And it's only a matter of time, like to me,
Speaker 6: to be honest, And again, I will never tell any
Speaker 6: body to listen or not to listen to anyone in particular,
Speaker 6: but it shocks me to this day, especially after going
Speaker 6: back to what we mentioned at the beginning of the podcast,
Speaker 6: what went on with the Sandy Hook thing, how people
Speaker 6: still actually take the time to listen to and again
Speaker 6: this is just George stalking and listen to Alex Jones. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: because if you can't tell he's he looks different. You know,
Speaker 6: somebody put out it wasn't Greg Greece, but somebody put
Speaker 6: out a YouTube video the other night, and they claim
Speaker 6: that it's somebody else.
Speaker 1: He looks different. I mean, that's all I can say.
Speaker 6: If I can.
Speaker 1: Maybe he looks a little healthier, but he looks different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will tell you that he actually broke it
Speaker 6: down to the timeline in which he believes it happened.
Speaker 6: And again we can all, you know, change your diet
Speaker 6: and work out, but that the bone structure was different
Speaker 6: in his face. And if I can find that video,
Speaker 6: which I think I can, I'll put it in the
Speaker 6: show notes. And it's about eight minutes long. Give it
Speaker 6: the first two minutes. He's a bit of a showman.
Speaker 6: The guy who does it, I think his name's Jake,
Speaker 6: but he makes some pretty compelling has pretty compelling evidence
Speaker 6: at States. And I'm a bigger fan of David Knight,
Speaker 6: who was one of the guys who went by the
Speaker 6: wayside and yeah, Greg Racing.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a fan of his two but I haven't
Speaker 1: gone out of my way to keep in touch. He's
Speaker 1: a hard man to try to follow, as he's been
Speaker 1: deplatform demonetized and everything else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's on Rumble ind Twitter live from
Speaker 6: like nine am to eleven am Eastern time every day. Now. Okay,
Speaker 6: but yeah, what other rabbit holes did you ever come
Speaker 6: across like nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah, I got a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: He's not a flat earther, but man, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for him. He's a little younger than me,
Speaker 1: He's accomplished a lot. He is a huge nine to
Speaker 1: eleven truther, and you know, anytime I needed to, you know,
Speaker 1: get a little bit more information, you know, he was
Speaker 1: right there to provide it, talk about it and everything else.
Speaker 1: So I know a lot about it, like little increments
Speaker 1: connecting all the dots. I mean, I don't think you'll
Speaker 1: ever know, but I mean, somebody put an insurance policy
Speaker 1: on the towers, I guess months before it included acts
Speaker 1: of terrorism, and you know, cashed out very well. There's
Speaker 1: also people that shorted airline stocks that were directly affected
Speaker 1: and of course made money there. Rumsfell with his announcement
Speaker 1: the day before on September tenth, about two point three
Speaker 1: trillion dollars being misplaced, and then the first ever building
Speaker 1: to collapse out of empathy for other buildings collapsing.
Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting that one of the very first
Speaker 6: rabbit holes that I ever came into in my life
Speaker 6: was the Bush family. And it goes back to oif
Speaker 6: one I'm leaving Iraq, I made a very high ranking
Speaker 6: individual and he got his picture in the Stars and
Speaker 6: Stripes with George Bush, who was you know, president at
Speaker 6: the time. I'm like, hey, isn't that cool? Then you know,
Speaker 6: you're going to have that for your family to treasure
Speaker 6: that picture on your wall for generations to come. And
Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm just speaking, you know, I'm talking to
Speaker 6: high ranking It wasn't like that, but in that nutshell
Speaker 6: and he's just kind of he looked at me. You
Speaker 6: tell it was tired. Maybe it was a moment of weakness.
Speaker 6: He just kind of, you know, he compared the Bushes
Speaker 6: to the Nazis, and I was like, no, he said,
Speaker 6: he said, the Bush family makes the Nazis look like
Speaker 6: Sesame Street. That was his exact words, and I was
Speaker 6: like what. It didn't resonate, But I was going home
Speaker 6: after not seeing my family for a year, so I
Speaker 6: followed that in the back of my mind, you know,
Speaker 6: ten twelve years later, when I start to read Family
Speaker 6: of Secrets by Russ Baker and all of this stuff,
Speaker 6: then I realized, wait a second, go if you go
Speaker 6: all the way back to March thirtieth, nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 6: you know, the guy who supposedly tried to kill Reagan
Speaker 6: was family friends with the Bush like the Hinckleys were
Speaker 6: best friend with the Bushes.
Speaker 1: What and then I had heard that, but I'd forgotten
Speaker 1: about it until you just were bringing it up now.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And even Jodie Foster, who was part of the operation,
Speaker 6: she was also a secret society like the Bushes were
Speaker 6: skulling bones out of Yale. She was part of the
Speaker 6: I think it was the Manuscript Society, secret society there.
Speaker 6: And after that incident she went back to school. And
Speaker 6: it's very interesting how everything sets up. And then you
Speaker 6: go full circle to nine to eleven and oh, the
Speaker 6: Bush family happened to be best friend with the bin
Speaker 6: Laden family. You don't say, And once again they're not
Speaker 6: the ones responsible, but they played the role in the game.
Speaker 6: And you have to be tight with people if one
Speaker 6: of you know, somebody in your family is going to
Speaker 6: be uh, you know, be used as the bad guy, right.
Speaker 1: You're right, yep. So it's you're very insightful on that.
Speaker 1: And I know there's George HW. Bush, George w. And
Speaker 1: then there's Prescott is it Prescott Walker Bush, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And that was he was involved in helping set up
Speaker 1: one of the government agencies CIA, FBI, not FBI, CI
Speaker 1: N Maybe I believe back in the forties or fifties.
Speaker 6: I don't know if the Bushes had to direct it
Speaker 6: was the OSS before it became the CIA. There was
Speaker 6: some very well known like the famous rock group The Police.
Speaker 6: Stuart Copeland, who was the drummer. His father was the
Speaker 6: one of the original founders. If people like into classic
Speaker 6: music from like the sixties, go read Dave McGowan's book
Speaker 6: Weird Scenes in Laurel Canyon and it talks about how
Speaker 6: every one of these psych you know, the mamas and
Speaker 6: the papas, and they all grew up in this area,
Speaker 6: in the same neighborhood in California. All their parents were
Speaker 6: military intelligence, and all these groups were put in to
Speaker 6: kind of bring about the hippie movie to take away
Speaker 6: the anti I think it was used to kind of
Speaker 6: distract from Vietnam, which I think, let's go full circle
Speaker 6: here to the moon landing. I think that was a
Speaker 6: huge part of faking the moon landing was to distract
Speaker 6: from you know the amount of bodies that were coming back,
Speaker 6: these young men who were coming back in body bags
Speaker 6: every day from Vietnam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sixties is the craziest decade from my perspective,
Speaker 1: just with the assassination of JFK, Martin Luther King Junior,
Speaker 1: and Malcolm X, and then of course learning that Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. It's like you said with Osama Bin
Speaker 1: Lack one moment, you're their friend, but really you're just
Speaker 1: their useful tool, and once you're no longer useful, that's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. And then in the sixties that was
Speaker 1: wild because it was a staged event for the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Tonkin to justify utilizing the draft to send people
Speaker 1: over to die. And that's man. I brought up this
Speaker 1: Bible verse before we started talking about it, and I
Speaker 1: don't need to read it now, but i'd like to
Speaker 1: read it if you didn't mind, before the show's over,
Speaker 1: and it just it just speaks to the evil associated
Speaker 1: with what they did and then what they told us,
Speaker 1: so like they made it seem like we had to
Speaker 1: get involved, but in reality, they contrive that event. And
Speaker 1: then they've been using that same logic for everything. So
Speaker 1: I mean, they with the nine to eleven questions that
Speaker 1: you brought up earlier and some of the things that
Speaker 1: I said, that was used as justification to go to
Speaker 1: war over in the Middle East, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: just when I say in the Bible verse later it'll
Speaker 1: they just goes. It makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 1: you know, for me, peace came with a better relationship
Speaker 1: with God in prayer and just seeing history repeat itself
Speaker 1: and getting a better understanding has been very helpful.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really well said. And it all comes back to,
Speaker 6: you know, problem reaction solution, you know Hegel's dialect, and
Speaker 6: that's what they want. Well, we want the military industrial
Speaker 6: complex to be fed. How do we do that. Let's
Speaker 6: you know, fake one of our ships being attacked. And
Speaker 6: I'm I'm very worried. And again there's two weeks between
Speaker 6: the time we're recording and the time this podcast comes out.
Speaker 6: But I have a bad feeling that something like that
Speaker 6: is going to go down, whether it's Diego, Garcia or
Speaker 6: somewhere in the Middle East, because I think they are ready.
Speaker 6: I think they're ready for their endgame. I think the
Speaker 6: people who are in charge now they don't want to
Speaker 6: pass this to the next generation to be overseen. I
Speaker 6: think they want, you know, their their Tower of Babble,
Speaker 6: their one world government, one world religion, their chips to
Speaker 6: buy and sell. I think they want it all very soon.
Speaker 1: Yep, they're escalating things, so that would it seems like it.
Speaker 6: For you When you when you want to share information,
Speaker 6: do you find it easier to share videos, literature, or
Speaker 6: just to have a conversation with someone.
Speaker 1: It depends on the person. The church that I go to,
Speaker 1: I like their kind of a slogan they've adopted. It says,
Speaker 1: we meet you where you're at, and that's the best
Speaker 1: way of communicating information because you have people like me.
Speaker 1: I like the podcasts, So if you were going to
Speaker 1: try to convince me of something, I'll listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1: It's easy for me because I do a good amount
Speaker 1: of driving and I'll listen at two time speed, So
Speaker 1: that's something that I have to be cognizant of. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I might talk at two time speed when I'm trying
Speaker 1: to convey points. But if they like videos or like,
Speaker 1: I've ran into a lot of people that don't have
Speaker 1: TikTok accounts, so I'll go out of my way. I'll
Speaker 1: save the video to my camera roll on my phone
Speaker 1: so I can send it to them and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is worthwhile worth watching and it's not always flat
Speaker 1: earth because sometimes people need to be aware of something else,
Speaker 1: and I believe that once they see that something else,
Speaker 1: they'll go on to the next thing. Because what I
Speaker 1: do like ending a lot of the things that I
Speaker 1: say is like everything is a lot, you know, you
Speaker 1: just pick a thing, it doesn't matter, like you pick
Speaker 1: a wild animal like a panda, you know, and there's
Speaker 1: a story behind it.
Speaker 6: I think that's really well said, by the way. I
Speaker 6: love that will meet you where you're at, because it's
Speaker 6: more than just we'll come to your house and teach
Speaker 6: you what. We'll meet you where you're at, whether wherever
Speaker 6: you are in your journey, we'll pick you up and
Speaker 6: take you from there. And man, that's really well said.
Speaker 6: I wrote that down. I want to keep that good.
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. It really does resonate with me,
Speaker 1: and that's like I'm like, that's awesome. That's how you
Speaker 1: spread the message right that. I can't think of a
Speaker 1: better way to do it is than meeting someone where
Speaker 1: they're at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're down to our last ten minutes. So if
Speaker 6: there's something that you had jotted down that you wanted
Speaker 6: to share, and I'd be a great time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the reason why I like the truth so
Speaker 1: much is because it's good. The truth is good, the
Speaker 1: Bible's good because it's God's word. God is good, all
Speaker 1: of that. And so I'll make sure I'll read my
Speaker 1: Bible verse that I was going to bring up. This
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite. It's just the words mean,
Speaker 1: what the words mean. It's Isaiah five point twenty. I'm
Speaker 1: reading the King James version. It says, woe unto them
Speaker 1: that call evil good and good evil, that put darkness
Speaker 1: for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for
Speaker 1: sweet and sweet for bitter. The reason why that speaks
Speaker 1: to me so much, I think earlier I said, the
Speaker 1: tolerance that people have is used against them. And once
Speaker 1: you get somebody to start tolerating something that they shouldn't,
Speaker 1: things can go awry very quickly. And I think that
Speaker 1: we need to be very mindful of that. And you
Speaker 1: know that's such an evil thing to do, is you
Speaker 1: take someone's compassion and you use it against them to
Speaker 1: subvert the community, subvert the person that they think they're
Speaker 1: helping by being tolerant of the thing they should be
Speaker 1: intolerant of. And you know, if if something is in
Speaker 1: you that shouldn't be in you, then there's less space
Speaker 1: for the stuff that should be in you to be
Speaker 1: in you. So that could be God's love, could be
Speaker 1: the Word, could be just doing the things that we
Speaker 1: should be doing on a daily basis. So you know
Speaker 1: that Bible verse does speak to me Isaiah five point twenty.
Speaker 6: That is powerful, and it also speaks to their you
Speaker 6: said it earlier in version, right, they put things that
Speaker 6: are evil up as good and things that are good
Speaker 6: as an evil. Right. Those Christians who don't tolerate this,
Speaker 6: they're evil, right, And that's because of the parrot, because
Speaker 6: who controls the media. That's why Christianity gets a bad
Speaker 6: rap now that they say we're not tolerant, we're evil,
Speaker 6: whereas it's it's not George saying that homosexuality is an abomination.
Speaker 6: The Bible says. I'm just telling you what the Bible says.
Speaker 6: George didn't say that these are the words from God.
Speaker 6: And that's once again where even some I call them
Speaker 6: like beer the Christian's light. They they're Christians, they go
Speaker 6: to church on Sunday, but they follow the worldly narrative, right,
Speaker 6: whether it's the New Methodist Church, the Global Methodist Church,
Speaker 6: or I don't like to group people into things, but
Speaker 6: people again, who said they're Christians but they tolerate sin?
Speaker 6: Just what is it everybody's seen that bumper sticker says
Speaker 6: coexist with all the different symbols on it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: no one thing. God does not coexist with sin, period,
Speaker 6: end of story.
Speaker 1: Right, yep, And yeah, that's an inversion if before I
Speaker 1: rededicated myself to Christ and realized that, you know, things
Speaker 1: that oppose Christ are not to be accepted and that
Speaker 1: co exists. Bumper Sticker is a great example. It looks nice.
Speaker 1: The immediate thought, you're like, oh, yeah, we should co exist,
Speaker 1: we should all get along. Yeah, but we should go along.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that we're embracing all of these
Speaker 1: other belief systems because they conflict with one another. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just no other way around it. And that's one
Speaker 1: thing that I've become very adamant about, is I if
Speaker 1: you deny Jesus, I'm not I'm not empathetic. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm empathetic is the wrong word. Like we need to
Speaker 1: have a conversation, you know, if you're if you're against Jesus,
Speaker 1: then like the conversation that I feel needs to be
Speaker 1: had is well why, you know, why? Why are you
Speaker 1: why don't you believe or do you think he didn't exist?
Speaker 1: And then typically they answer no, I think he exists. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you think he died? And they typically say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he died. Do you think he rose from
Speaker 1: the dead? And then that's where you might get a
Speaker 1: little bit of pushback, and then you can kind of
Speaker 1: speak to the people that saw him after the fact.
Speaker 1: You can speak to the miracles, the time, everything that
Speaker 1: helps prove that he lived a sinless life, died and
Speaker 1: rose from the dead. So that way we can spend
Speaker 1: eternity because we needed we need that salvation. There is
Speaker 1: no salvation without sacrifice. And it's really interesting because that
Speaker 1: line does get put into a lot of movies that
Speaker 1: are made in Hollywood, which again is not of God typically,
Speaker 1: but that line there is no salvation without sacrifice, has
Speaker 1: been in a handful of movies not too long ago.
Speaker 6: Well said and speaking of Bible verses and anti Christ,
Speaker 6: and I think a lot of people when they hear
Speaker 6: the word Antichrist, they just say, well, who do you
Speaker 6: think the Antichrist is? But what I think a lot
Speaker 6: of people don't understand is that the word Antichrist is
Speaker 6: used often in the Bible and not just pointing to
Speaker 6: a particular person. For instance, tewod John chapter one, verse
Speaker 6: seven says, for many deceivers are entered into the world
Speaker 6: who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
Speaker 6: This is a deceiver and an anti Christ. And this
Speaker 6: is the type of verbiage that we should be using.
Speaker 6: If someone, an individual, particularly a person in power, you know,
Speaker 6: pushes things again where they you know that Jesus Christ
Speaker 6: has not come in the flood. These are deceivers. These
Speaker 6: are anti Christ. And when something is Antichrist, we need
Speaker 6: to use the proper verbiage in that.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're right in its strong language, but it's strong
Speaker 1: language for a reason.
Speaker 6: Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say amen to that, because that was great.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Amen to yours.
Speaker 9: Two.
Speaker 6: That's a Isaiah five point twenty is all about inversion.
Speaker 6: And I think maybe it's even part of the Freemason's mantra, right,
Speaker 6: because you look at the black and white checker bird,
Speaker 6: checker bird, checker board, and it is in version, right,
Speaker 6: all of it. The dark in the light, and they
Speaker 6: consider themselves illuminated. And I bet you they laugh at
Speaker 6: us when they're controlled puppets like Nildergrass Tyson say things
Speaker 6: like you know why he made that field goal?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, man, what a great conversation. Did you have
Speaker 6: any other notes left?
Speaker 1: No, I'm all out of notes. I mean, yeah, the
Speaker 1: conversation was fantastic. Can you know you gave me some
Speaker 1: things to look into. I'm looking forward to the show
Speaker 1: being released and checking out those show notes because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff that is going to be
Speaker 1: in there. So thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah for sure. And by the way, if you have
Speaker 6: any just in case you forget any other thing you
Speaker 6: want me to put in the show notes, just send
Speaker 6: me an email and big shout out to all the
Speaker 6: listeners who continue to support the podcast. We'll learn something
Speaker 6: new every day, and again I encourage you to reach
Speaker 6: out like Sterling did today. It's fe Files guest at
Speaker 6: gmail dot com. Come on and share your story. If
Speaker 6: you want to come on with a pseudonym, right, if
Speaker 6: you're Nancy from New York, you can come on as
Speaker 6: you know Karen if you'd like you know, I get it.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, the story is more important,
Speaker 6: the honesty, the showing your faith in Christ and how
Speaker 6: it's affected your life truly, and I can tell you
Speaker 6: from all the emails we get, truly gives comfort to
Speaker 6: others knowing that there are other people who you know,
Speaker 6: whether it be they live, they have put on the
Speaker 6: sunglasses and they can see how the world truly operates,
Speaker 6: and you are not alone. And we have given you many,
Speaker 6: many examples of that. And again, Sterling, thank you so
Speaker 6: much for coming on and sharing your story, and God
Speaker 6: bless you and your family. Brother, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, George, God bless you as well.
Speaker 6: All Right, everybody, thank you so much. Reach out to
Speaker 6: Sterling his email addresses in the show notes, as well
Speaker 6: as everything else we talked about today. For Sterling, I'm George,
Speaker 6: God bless you all. Have a wonderful week. Keep your
Speaker 6: head on a swivel. And until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 6: we will see.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 10: I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you've
Speaker 10: had spin. I don't know you feel the tie hell
Speaker 10: down all the way? Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 1: Feeling you smile the same.
Speaker 10: As we go from you.
Speaker 1: She like you've lost your way.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give it and nevers home.
Speaker 3: Don't let call the primise.
Speaker 6: It ain't done yet.
Speaker 3: He's gone up glad, Why it's a way got up?
Speaker 1: May come?
Speaker 5: Why wait?
Speaker 10: God m recor I can see the street inside you.
Speaker 10: Child's are putting up five.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're stronger than any thing. C Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be all right.
Speaker 3: You're accepting a bed bound.
Speaker 10: Beautiful you're shoving rid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're living.
Speaker 10: Breathe move, you can hold your head a pie.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never loss home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primies. It ain't done Yet's
Speaker 3: God up?
Speaker 5: Plat?
Speaker 11: Why some waintown? The God of maybe comes. Don't give up, No,
Speaker 11: don't give in you never love home. Don't let go
Speaker 11: on the primies.
Speaker 1: It ain't unlife. It's worth living. What's a way down?
Speaker 1: The God up maybe called?
Speaker 9: Why surprise down?
Speaker 3: Got up? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, what surprise down? The God up baby calls, Oh yeah, gott.
Speaker 8: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose home.
Speaker 8: Don't they go of the prim and done? Yeah's God
Speaker 8: up playing?
Speaker 6: What do kind of even? Cos?
Speaker 10: Don't give no dog giving whatever this hole.
Speaker 3: Don't let go of the crimes.
Speaker 9: It ain't done.
Speaker 10: Lover's worth live in?
Speaker 9: What's and the God of every chorus, Oh, the God
Speaker 9: of needs.
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Speaker 6: Just the facts, ma'amy.