Speaker 1: You can live the version of the life that like
Speaker 1: your family wants for you, that your environment wants for you,
Speaker 1: like your friends, all of that, or you can live
Speaker 1: the life that you're meant for and that you want
Speaker 1: for you. And I think that that's the two things
Speaker 1: where it's like, are you going to live up to
Speaker 1: the standards that your family has for you and like
Speaker 1: your friends and your environment, or are you going to
Speaker 1: live up to the standards that you have for yourself?
Speaker 2: What if the life you want is sitting on the
Speaker 2: other side of the standards you're currently willing to accept.
Speaker 2: Today's guest, Paige Harper is a mindset and identity coach
Speaker 2: who helps women break free from excuses, raise their standards,
Speaker 2: and become the version of themselves capable of creating the
Speaker 2: life they truly want. In this conversation, we explore identity, people, pleasing, motherhood, ambition,
Speaker 2: and what it really means to become your next level self.
Speaker 2: We talk about why raising your standards changes everything, the
Speaker 2: subtle excuses that keep us stuck even when they sound reasonable,
Speaker 2: how to tell the difference between honoring your reality and
Speaker 2: holding yourself back, the relationship between identity, habits, confidence, and success,
Speaker 2: why recovering people pleasers struggle to be fully seen, the
Speaker 2: uncomfortable growing pains that come with becoming the new version
Speaker 2: of yourself. What it actually means to be self obsessed
Speaker 2: and why it isn't selfish. How your personal growth impacts
Speaker 2: everyone around you, motherhood, sacrifice, ambition, and building a life
Speaker 2: that's both rooted and expansive. And why awareness is the
Speaker 2: first step to changing any habit, behavior, and identity pattern.
Speaker 2: If you've ever felt torn between who you've been and
Speaker 2: who you're becoming, this conversation will challenge you to raise
Speaker 2: your standards, trust yourself more deeply, and stop waiting for
Speaker 2: permission to create the life you truly want. I know
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Speaker 2: Paige Harper is a mindset and identity coach, a speaker,
Speaker 2: mom of two young boys like me, a wife, and
Speaker 2: host of the Identity Glow Up podcast. She helps women
Speaker 2: break through excuses, raise their standards, and become the version
Speaker 2: of themselves capable of creating the life, confidence.
Speaker 1: And success they truly desire.
Speaker 2: Known for her bold, no excuses coaching style, Paige combines
Speaker 2: tough love with a deep belief in what people are
Speaker 2: capable of. What's Up Page, Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: jumping on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks. You know, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, for everybody that's listening, Paige and I are
Speaker 2: currently in the same mentorship space and container, So I'm
Speaker 2: really excited just to get to chat with you and
Speaker 2: get to know you more today, because in space is
Speaker 2: like that, it's always like hey, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: pass passing one another. And you weren't able to come
Speaker 2: to the in person event in LA right, Were you
Speaker 2: there or.
Speaker 1: Did I not?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I was not there. No, it's I live in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: so I live in Ohio. So trying to go out
Speaker 1: that direction and all of that, it just didn't happen
Speaker 1: this time, but maybe next time. Yeah, because I'm definitely
Speaker 1: traveling more this year, which is really exciting. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on a plane since I don't even know, before COVID,
Speaker 1: I think, so it's been a long time. Really wow
Speaker 1: yeah wow wo oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been on many planes since COVID, probably too many planes.
Speaker 1: I would like to not go on as many planes.
Speaker 2: Speaking of, In in just a week, I'm actually getting
Speaker 2: on a plane to visit my family in Oklahoma for
Speaker 2: a two week vacation. So although I'm not excited about
Speaker 2: the plane part or the travel part, especially with two
Speaker 2: young babies, I am excited for the vacation and seeing
Speaker 2: my family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. I actually my family is all right here.
Speaker 1: So I like to say that my life is kind
Speaker 1: of like a country song where I literally am married
Speaker 1: to the guy I had a crush on in high
Speaker 1: school and we didn't date in high school. We didn't
Speaker 1: date until after so I'm a full time pharmacist as well,
Speaker 1: so I didn't connect with him again until I don't know,
Speaker 1: six years after high school, and then it just kind
Speaker 1: of we automatically just clicked, and here we are. My
Speaker 1: mother in law lives on the same road as me.
Speaker 1: My parents live thirty minutes away, so we're all kind
Speaker 1: of like our kids are being raised in the same
Speaker 1: town and school district that we were in. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So it's like a little little country song
Speaker 1: over here, so we don't have to fly to see anybody.
Speaker 1: A little country song.
Speaker 2: I love that and I'm so envious of that, especially
Speaker 2: in this season of motherhood.
Speaker 1: I've always been.
Speaker 2: Closed, especially with my mom, but becoming a parent and
Speaker 2: motherhood has made me really understand the gift of living
Speaker 2: close to your family for that reason of hey, can
Speaker 2: you come over and watch you know, And it's it's
Speaker 2: difficult to be away from your family when you have
Speaker 2: young kids, so that must be that must come in handy.
Speaker 1: It does. Yeah, my mother in law is a saint
Speaker 1: and she actually she lives, like I said, on the
Speaker 1: same road, and so she watches the kids every other
Speaker 1: Friday night. So my husband and I are able to
Speaker 1: go out and go and go out to dinner hot.
Speaker 2: Meal like it's great, ooh girl, soap soap that up,
Speaker 2: and go on a date for me and my husband. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll do it, will do We actually have a date
Speaker 2: night scheduled for tonight. I'm so excited. Our plan is
Speaker 2: to clean the house. It's been a little bit, it's
Speaker 2: been on the to do list for a while, so
Speaker 2: I'm excited to clean the house after this and then
Speaker 2: go on a date night together.
Speaker 1: We're dropping the kids off at daycare for that. So
Speaker 1: much much needed and looking forward to it. Yes, good
Speaker 1: for you. Everybody needs that. We all need a little
Speaker 1: date night in our life and can't forget about that
Speaker 1: connection we have there with our spouse too, on top
Speaker 1: of like with our kids and everything like that. So
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well I'll let you know how it goes.
Speaker 2: And then I know a big part of your work
Speaker 2: is all on as far as I know, and please
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, but on identity and standards,
Speaker 2: like how you hold standards for yourself. I think even
Speaker 2: what we're talking about right here of having the standard
Speaker 2: of reconnecting with your partner weekly or monthly or whatever
Speaker 2: is your standard is kind of a nice segue. But
Speaker 2: how what do you mean by holding yourself to a
Speaker 2: certain standard and how does that really change everything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think for me, identity is a huge
Speaker 1: part of my work. I'm like my whole My podcast
Speaker 1: is actually the Identity glow Up Podcast. So I love
Speaker 1: love talking about identity, and I think for me, like
Speaker 1: standards of really who you are and what you are
Speaker 1: going to do, like what you say you're going to do,
Speaker 1: And for me, like I have such a high standard
Speaker 1: for myself in so many different areas like as a mom,
Speaker 1: as a wife, as a business owner, Like there's so
Speaker 1: many different standards that I adhere to to be able
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, this is who I am, this
Speaker 1: is what I expect of myself. And I hold myself
Speaker 1: to those standards because I know no one else is
Speaker 1: going to hold me to those standards, Like I'm the
Speaker 1: only one that's going to be able to say, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you have goals to hit. Hey you said that you
Speaker 1: always want to be this kind of mom. Hey you
Speaker 1: said you always want to be this kind of wife.
Speaker 1: Like I'm the only one that's in charge of that.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that can take control of that.
Speaker 1: And so for me, like standards are such a big
Speaker 1: part of my life because that's what ultimately determines like
Speaker 1: that as well as my identity determines my habits, my
Speaker 1: my beliefs, how I show up, what I accomplish, what
Speaker 1: my goals are like, it all determines that. And so
Speaker 1: a lot of people I feel like don't live up
Speaker 1: to don't even have standards like I'm I actually was
Speaker 1: talking to one of my clients and she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what standards are, like the standards of me,
Speaker 1: And I was like, for me, just me, I say,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like I am the kind of person
Speaker 1: who blink like fill in that blank, Like to me,
Speaker 1: that's what that like standards is of what you have
Speaker 1: on yourself. Like for me, I'm the kind of person
Speaker 1: that always shows up. I'm the kind of person that
Speaker 1: is relentless af I'm the kind of person that is
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I can cuss on here?
Speaker 1: Can I cuss on here? Yes, you can't. I'm the
Speaker 1: kind of person that's like a boss bitch like that
Speaker 1: is me. And I know those are kind of weird standards,
Speaker 1: and obviously there's more, but as far as like my
Speaker 1: business is concerned, that's how I identify and that controls
Speaker 1: every other aspect between that and my identity of my
Speaker 1: life and the life that I'm creating. Yeah, good answer.
Speaker 2: I think definitely people don't are not conscious, not aware
Speaker 2: that they can change their standards. And I know, in
Speaker 2: the spaces that we've both been in, a large part
Speaker 2: of the work from the people that we're learning with
Speaker 2: and from is and I'm sure this problem infuses into
Speaker 2: the work that you do with your people as well,
Speaker 2: of like becoming aware of your standards what they currently
Speaker 2: are at, and then also raising the standards if you want,
Speaker 2: which is like a mind blowing concept for people of like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you're telling me that I can not
Speaker 2: only like see the standards that they are set at,
Speaker 2: but also do something about it and change it if
Speaker 2: I so desire.
Speaker 1: That also is like the next level.
Speaker 2: So riff on that, tell us maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: about what that process looks like in your work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean, everybody's able to raise their standards.
Speaker 1: It's just about what they're what they are allowing themselves
Speaker 1: to listen to as far as like most people allow
Speaker 1: themselves to listen to the excuses that they give themselves
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. So like, if you
Speaker 1: want to raise your standards, a lot of people think
Speaker 1: they can because they have such this like fixed mindset
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, well, I can't do that because
Speaker 1: I didn't start there, so I'm never able going I'm
Speaker 1: never going to be able to get there. And they
Speaker 1: use all these excuses almost like they use the facts
Speaker 1: that they have as excuses where it's like, oh, well
Speaker 1: I have two kids. Okay, cool I do too. Next
Speaker 1: let's go to the Hixson like, oh well I have
Speaker 1: a full time job. Because I have a full time
Speaker 1: job as well as I have a business. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: cool me too. Next, Like when it comes to like
Speaker 1: raising your standards and going to this next thing, like
Speaker 1: what are you listening to? Are you listening to your soul?
Speaker 1: Are you listening to this like gut feeling that you
Speaker 1: have to push forward or are you listening to your
Speaker 1: ego and your excuses because that's going to determine whether
Speaker 1: you stay the same at the same standards or whether
Speaker 1: you continue to upgrade to these next level standards that
Speaker 1: you want to hit. M good answer. It's making me think.
Speaker 2: I took a class recently from a teacher here in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, and his theme was a little bit on this,
Speaker 2: and he was talking about it was like a quote
Speaker 2: from a movie and how or maybe it was from
Speaker 2: a TV show, but the scenario was that news reporters
Speaker 2: were interviewing a performer or somebody famous, and the news
Speaker 2: reporter was asking, like, how did you deal with other
Speaker 2: people cutting you down all the time or like talking
Speaker 2: shit about you? And how did you handle all that?
Speaker 2: And then the performer of the person was kind of
Speaker 2: just like, well, I just simply didn't agree to it.
Speaker 2: And it was the it was recognizing the fact that
Speaker 2: anytime something happens that we have to to some degree
Speaker 2: agree to it to allow it to knock us off
Speaker 2: our equanimity or knock us off our center. Like if
Speaker 2: this in the example of this person, of if they
Speaker 2: were going to have their feelings hurt about it, that
Speaker 2: would also mean by some degree they were agreeing to
Speaker 2: what the claims were. And I thought it was just
Speaker 2: a really simple way to like keep it clean. And
Speaker 2: it's almost like it's holding a certain standard for yourself
Speaker 2: of like, no, actually that is not true for me.
Speaker 1: That doesn't align for me. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2: Therefore it loses its power too, which is really which
Speaker 2: is really empowering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think like on that, I
Speaker 1: almost feel like we have the opportunity to live so
Speaker 1: many different lives and so many different version of this
Speaker 1: life that we're living right now, right And so for me,
Speaker 1: it's almost like you can live the version of the
Speaker 1: life that like your family wants for you, that your
Speaker 1: environment wants for you, like your friends, all of that,
Speaker 1: or you can live the life that you're meant for
Speaker 1: and that you want for you. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's the two things where it's like, are you going
Speaker 1: to live up to the standards that your family has
Speaker 1: for you and like your friends and your environment, or
Speaker 1: are you going to live up to the standards that
Speaker 1: you have for yourself that you have I like to
Speaker 1: talk about like the soul or like this gut feeling
Speaker 1: of like what you have and what you're meant for.
Speaker 1: Like I know I'm not meant to work in my
Speaker 1: pharmacist job for life. I'm not. I can feel that,
Speaker 1: Like every time that I log in my computer, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. But like whenever I get on
Speaker 1: a coaching call, no matter how tired I am, I'm
Speaker 1: like pumped up, I'm ready to go right, Like that
Speaker 1: is my soul. And so listening to what other people
Speaker 1: who truly do love me say like, oh, you're doing
Speaker 1: too much, You're doing all these things, Like my standards
Speaker 1: are just higher, they're just different than what other people
Speaker 1: have for me, And that's totally fine. That's not anything
Speaker 1: against them. It's just I have this version of my
Speaker 1: life that I want to live and these standards that
Speaker 1: I want to live by, and they may look different
Speaker 1: than other people's around you and even like your families
Speaker 1: and your loved ones, but you have to go with
Speaker 1: what you want fully and listening to other people, and
Speaker 1: like you said, agreeing to their terms of what their
Speaker 1: standards are is just going to allow you to stay
Speaker 1: small and stay the version of whoever like everybody else
Speaker 1: thinks you should be, which like I'm not about personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I think it's not often encouraged for
Speaker 2: us to make decisions and to take actions in total
Speaker 2: alignment of like what's good for us, especially if it
Speaker 2: means that it might disappoint somebody else, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 2: we're afraid if it's going to disappoint somebody else, then
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, I don't want to do that because I'm.
Speaker 1: Afraid of that.
Speaker 2: And then living and aligning our lives around everybody else
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then with identity a big part. Well really
Speaker 2: with the standards conversation, I love how you say that
Speaker 2: being self obsessed or prioritizing yourself isn't selfish.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Oh my gosh, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I am someone who there's so much to this.
Speaker 1: So I feel like so many people, like when you
Speaker 1: hear like self obsessed, the first thing you think of
Speaker 1: is like negative, like, oh, that girl is so full
Speaker 1: of herself, she has such a big ego, she thinks
Speaker 1: she's better than everybody else. But like, to me, it's
Speaker 1: about like self obsession is about truly knowing who you are,
Speaker 1: like being obsessed with who you are as a human,
Speaker 1: going all like going towards your dreams, being obsessed with
Speaker 1: what you're creating, like to the point where you're so
Speaker 1: freaking excited to show up. Like I wake up at
Speaker 1: four am every single morning to move my body, to journal,
Speaker 1: to meditate, to read, to get my brain moving so
Speaker 1: that way I can go full out of my business.
Speaker 1: Like that's the obsession level that I have, not just
Speaker 1: with my business, but also with myself. Because I say
Speaker 1: that I'm in training for my next level life like physical, mental, emotional, spiritual,
Speaker 1: Like I am in full training and I'm doing that
Speaker 1: because I do have this self obsession. So the people
Speaker 1: that are saying like, oh, well, self obsession is like this.
Speaker 1: And I actually had somebody tell me that I was
Speaker 1: too full of myself or too obsessed with myself or
Speaker 1: something like that on Instagram or TikTok or something. But
Speaker 1: it got me thinking, like I ended up making a
Speaker 1: whole freaking program about how the standards of a self
Speaker 1: obsessed woman because I'm like, hell, yeah, I'm obsessed with myself,
Speaker 1: Like of course i am. Why wouldn't you be obsessed
Speaker 1: with yourself like we are in this, as one of
Speaker 1: my coaches says, a human me sack like our soul
Speaker 1: like as inside this human mes sack, Like why not
Speaker 1: be obsessed with the person that you are? Right? And
Speaker 1: so it's about knowing yourself really like taking care of yourself,
Speaker 1: being so deeply devoted to yourself and your growth. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's so important about this self obsession.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't know if I answered full
Speaker 1: of your question, but that's what I see as self obsession.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I completely and that it's in service, like
Speaker 2: obsessed with yourself in service of other people, and this
Speaker 2: idea that when you take care of yourself, other people
Speaker 2: don't have to. I was actually I was teaching on
Speaker 2: this this morning in my yoga class, and it came
Speaker 2: from the twelve Laws.
Speaker 1: Of the Universe. Are you familiar with this?
Speaker 2: Tanya actually our current mentor both of us, she has
Speaker 2: a whole module on this, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad she taught me this because I had
Speaker 2: never heard these before, and now I've gone down a
Speaker 2: rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful book.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the author off the top of my head,
Speaker 2: but the first universal law is on the law of oneness,
Speaker 2: the divine law of oneness, and how this law means
Speaker 2: that we are all connected, essentially, we are all captained,
Speaker 2: and that we whatever we do automatically affects other people,
Speaker 2: that we are not isolated in this echo chamber or
Speaker 2: this vacuum, and that it's so easy to buy into
Speaker 2: the belief that like what I do doesn't matter, you know,
Speaker 2: and seep into this energy of apathy or nihilism and hopelessness,
Speaker 2: like what's the point anyway, Everything's meaningless? I'm meaningless and
Speaker 2: that's just simply not true. And I think that this
Speaker 2: instills this like it brings back hope and it makes
Speaker 2: us feel like any choice we make is important. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that it blends into what we're talking about here,
Speaker 2: of what we do matters and it affects other people
Speaker 2: and if we are raising our vibration or taking care
Speaker 2: of ourselves, because if we were to be if we're
Speaker 2: a high vibe person and we're next to a low
Speaker 2: vibe person, naturally, because everything's connected and we affect one another,
Speaker 2: our high vibe is going to raise that low vibe
Speaker 2: person just from proximity and just it's inevitable. So is
Speaker 2: that how you I mean, do you want to tack
Speaker 2: anything on to that? Because when I think of like,
Speaker 2: caring for the self is not selfish, it's in service.
Speaker 2: That came to mind really just because that's what I
Speaker 2: was teaching on today. But what else would you add
Speaker 2: to it? Yeah, I mean, I love that you brought
Speaker 2: it to that. I've never really thought of it that way.
Speaker 2: I think i've read or like listened to the audiobook
Speaker 2: of that before. I didn't realize that Tanya had that
Speaker 2: as part of her like things, so I need to
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: I listened to all of her riffs, but I don't
Speaker 1: always go into the modules while I'm working. But because
Speaker 1: I listen while I'm working, don't recommend when you're doing
Speaker 1: that as a full time job. But it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not promoting, no, it's just saying okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think that if you aren't going, like
Speaker 1: like you said, where you are, it's so much bigger
Speaker 1: than just me. Like when I say I'm self obsessed,
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm looking in the mirror every day
Speaker 1: and being like Billiam girl like I I don't. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not about that. It's about so much deeper
Speaker 1: than that. And the more that I can be obsessed
Speaker 1: with what I'm creating and who I am, that also
Speaker 1: reflects on other people because it helps me raise my standards.
Speaker 1: Helps me raise my standards of what I'm going to
Speaker 1: do and how I'm going to show up, which will
Speaker 1: then be able to impact other people, whether it's coaching
Speaker 1: clients or how I show up on social media. And
Speaker 1: maybe it like gives these like people on social media
Speaker 1: this like, oh I wish I had hurt energy. Oh
Speaker 1: I wish I like was obsessed with myself like that.
Speaker 1: Oh I wish I could attract clients like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so it helps it kind
Speaker 1: of like multiplies with that. And I think when we
Speaker 1: think of self obsession, we think of like this selfish
Speaker 1: type of thing, but like you said, it's it's about
Speaker 1: so much more than just us. It's more about like
Speaker 1: realizing that we cannot any like we can't put ourself
Speaker 1: last anymore. We can't put ourself last anymore. It's just
Speaker 1: when we put ourself last. We're also like basically saying
Speaker 1: like our opinions don't matter nothing that we're doing that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't it doesn't even matter anymore. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just not going to grow because well why would I,
Speaker 1: because I'm not worth it. So for me, it's like
Speaker 1: I go the complete opposite. I'm like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna have low confidence. I'm gonna be so freaking obsessed
Speaker 1: with myself that it's crazy and people are going to
Speaker 1: comment on it. And so you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: have that balance there, But I think that it's good
Speaker 1: that way because then I can pour this like self obsession,
Speaker 1: this confidence, this passion, this purpose and everything that I
Speaker 1: have that's developed from this self obsession era that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about is I can like pour it into other
Speaker 1: people's cups too. It's like mind's being overflowed because I'm
Speaker 1: like crazy about it, which is just who I am.
Speaker 1: But then I can over it can overflow, and I
Speaker 1: can pour it into other people's cups too, And I
Speaker 1: think that's really that's a really good way to look
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, yeah, I like that too.
Speaker 2: Of course, the classic image of filling up your cup
Speaker 2: and overflowing so she have something to poured from. Another
Speaker 2: way that I feel like I've recently been reminded of
Speaker 2: in this idea of all connected is.
Speaker 1: Like we think when we're thinking of.
Speaker 2: Ourselves as individuals, we're like, oh, I'm an individual, which,
Speaker 2: let me get to my point I'm trying to think of, like,
Speaker 2: how's the best way to say it, I'm an ind
Speaker 2: But really that's really just the physical manifestation or expression
Speaker 2: of it. For example, you can see like an individual wave,
Speaker 2: a wave in the ocean can be an individual wave,
Speaker 2: but it's still see it's still ocean coming from something else,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I think that we people are
Speaker 2: that too. It's like we're all individual physical expressions, all
Speaker 2: individual waves, but we're still made up of the same
Speaker 2: stuff this like same substance being energy or source, whatever
Speaker 2: you want to like label that being. But in taking
Speaker 2: care of our own individual wave and our own self,
Speaker 2: we therefore are also taking care of the whole ocean,
Speaker 2: in the whole sea, because it's all connected, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I love that analogy too.
Speaker 1: I'm a big analogy person. Nice. It's like you go
Speaker 1: a lot deeper with things than I do with like
Speaker 1: the analogies, but I love it. I'm like eating it up. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love all of this so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's just like, you know, it goes
Speaker 2: both ways, and I think that the way that we're
Speaker 2: looking at it right now is a little more approachable
Speaker 2: and a little more doable for people, because when we think,
Speaker 2: that's when we get trapped in the annihilism and the
Speaker 2: apathy of like, well, good am I going to do?
Speaker 2: When we're trying to take care of the sea, it's
Speaker 2: like too big, you know, the ocean is too vast,
Speaker 2: and that's when we get like overwhelmed, paralysis by over analysis.
Speaker 2: But if we just take care of the self and
Speaker 2: it's singular. It's more manageable, like we can handle that,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's still in service of the collective
Speaker 2: and the body. So I really love that and thank
Speaker 2: you for helping us remember it. Do you feel like
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned people pleasing tendencies? People pleasing tendencies.
Speaker 1: Are so they a I am a recovering people pleaser. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me just same. Yeah, you're part of the same
Speaker 1: community here. Yeah yeah, let me just admit that. And
Speaker 1: I guess what it looks like like back to what
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Saying about choosing what you know is right for you,
Speaker 2: even and especially at the expense of disappointing somebody else,
Speaker 2: has been like something that I actively have to practice
Speaker 2: because it feels so against my nature. However, when we
Speaker 2: think about like harming and not speaking up for what
Speaker 2: you feel like is your truth or doing what you
Speaker 2: need that, then you're just like harming yourself. Please just
Speaker 2: tell me about people pleasing tendencies and how backwards it is,
Speaker 2: but also make me feel validated that it is hard.
Speaker 1: What do you know about people? I totally understand. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we're part of the same club here. Recovering
Speaker 1: sometimes still have issues with people pleaser here it happens.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of those things that's kind
Speaker 1: of with the identity work that I do too, where
Speaker 1: it's like I like to see it as like a
Speaker 1: name badge, honest, like you know the ones you get
Speaker 1: from like the Dollar Tree, where it's like, hi, my
Speaker 1: name is blank, and like we fill in what our
Speaker 1: identity is, and so it's like people pleaser or perfectionist
Speaker 1: or whatever, and like it's it's there, it's who we are,
Speaker 1: and so when we work to get rid of it,
Speaker 1: we've had that path so like I don't know what
Speaker 1: the right word is, ingrained or whatever, the right word,
Speaker 1: like it's so defined because we've had that path for
Speaker 1: so long that sometimes when we're having a bad day
Speaker 1: or when things aren't going our way, or when we're
Speaker 1: struggle bussing, like we can go back down that path
Speaker 1: of like the people pleas or the perfectionist or whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: It's it's easy to do that. It's easier than like
Speaker 1: going on this next level boss bitch path. It's easier
Speaker 1: just to go down the people pleaser path or whatever
Speaker 1: you would insert there. But I think for me, especially
Speaker 1: being someone who I have never I'm not in a
Speaker 1: family that are entrepreneurs other than my husband, but like
Speaker 1: not immediate family like my my mom, dad, anything like that.
Speaker 1: Like no entrepreneurs in our family. No one would ever
Speaker 1: go on social media and talk like I do. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been told not to cuss on social media. I've
Speaker 1: have all of these things where it's like I live
Speaker 1: in the same town that I grew up in, so
Speaker 1: it's like this this thing where I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: just like little Page, like little short, blonde, curly hair,
Speaker 1: blue eyed Page, Like there she is, you know what,
Speaker 1: and so trying to I'm basically like living in this
Speaker 1: town having people seen me as this young girl and like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're posting on social media. I even
Speaker 1: had my math teacher. I saw him once and he
Speaker 1: was like, I love the stuff you do on TikTok,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, you see me. Stop,
Speaker 1: don't look at me, right, Like it's like this thing
Speaker 1: where it's like no, no, no, no, you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to You're not supposed to see those things, right, And
Speaker 1: so then it's like you get into the spiral of
Speaker 1: people pleasing like am I saying the right things? Am
Speaker 1: I doing the right things? Am I like doing okay
Speaker 1: based on everyone else's standards? Am I like? Would somebody
Speaker 1: else not want to hear this? Should I not talk
Speaker 1: about this? And you into this spiral and it goes
Speaker 1: so far south of like who you actually are meant
Speaker 1: to be because you're so focused on pleasing everyone else
Speaker 1: that you forget about yourself, You forget about who you
Speaker 1: are and what you want to experience. And so for me,
Speaker 1: it's just been kind of like trying to like cover
Speaker 1: my ears and my eyes and be like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody else. I'm just going to speak
Speaker 1: my truth and people are going to see me. And
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that this conversation got brought up
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it in this way because I've
Speaker 1: been talking a lot about like allowing yourself to be seen,
Speaker 1: allow yourself to be a big freaking deal, like be
Speaker 1: seen as a big deal, feel like a big deal.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to feel like a big deal and
Speaker 1: have yourself be seen like you're a big deal on
Speaker 1: the social media world, especially if you're stuck in this
Speaker 1: people pleaser mode, because you're never going to be a
Speaker 1: big deal to yourself if you're trying to please everyone else.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's been more like, how can I
Speaker 1: focus more on who I want to be and what
Speaker 1: I want to accomplish and just like close my ears
Speaker 1: and eyes on everything else around me? And it's hard,
Speaker 1: but it's one hundred percent possible if you're I like
Speaker 1: to ask my clients, like how bad do you want it?
Speaker 1: How bad do you actually want like your goals, your dreams,
Speaker 1: Like I have these dreams of working my business full
Speaker 1: time and you know, making a crap ton of money
Speaker 1: and all of these things. Like I have big goals
Speaker 1: and dreams for my business and my life as a whole.
Speaker 1: So like, how bad do you want it? Do you
Speaker 1: want it bad enough where you're like I'm going to
Speaker 1: have to just like block out the noise and block
Speaker 1: out the people pleasingness, or am I just going to
Speaker 1: allow myself to sink down into that which is easier
Speaker 1: because it is easier, and I still do sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: not perfect by any means, but that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I've had to look at it to get out of
Speaker 1: that people pleasing part of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so good, and it's like that period
Speaker 2: of becoming is so painful, it's so awkward.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the.
Speaker 2: Growing pains, the growing pains and the weirdness of your
Speaker 2: teenage years. Like how I'm envisioning it is like it's
Speaker 2: like when you're trying to grow out your bangs and
Speaker 2: you're in that in between area of it, like does
Speaker 2: it go right or does it go left? And you're like,
Speaker 2: just be more my thing. These are trying to figure
Speaker 2: themselves out. Or it's like I'm imagining myself back when
Speaker 2: I was eleven, maybe like eleven to thirteen, where I
Speaker 2: just was elbows and teeth like so ungodly thin and
Speaker 2: just awkward, like an awkward teenager of becoming myself, you know,
Speaker 2: and like developing into a woman. Like it's that way
Speaker 2: too sometimes in your personality, especially when you're in these
Speaker 2: transitory places, and it's just when it comes down to
Speaker 2: your behaviors and your standards, it's just that the thing
Speaker 2: that you've always done is more practiced, it's more rehearsed.
Speaker 2: You know, you've done that more, and it feels more comfortable.
Speaker 2: So when you start doing something else, it is uncomfortable
Speaker 2: because it's unknown.
Speaker 1: And there's this. Have you seen this TV show on Netflix?
Speaker 1: It's called The Mind and Explained. I think, mmmmm, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that one. I don't have Netflix, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll have to go over to my parents' house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. See my you don't have Netflix. No,
Speaker 1: I don't have Netflix. My parents do I have. I
Speaker 1: have Disney. I have Disney Plus for my kids and
Speaker 1: then my kids bind you too. But yeah, a Netflix
Speaker 1: is not something that I have. Honestly, you're probably better
Speaker 1: off for it.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever met anybody who just said
Speaker 2: the sentence I don't have Netflix, So that's amazing. But
Speaker 2: there's there is this Maybe go to your parents' house
Speaker 2: to watch this TV show, And for any of the listeners,
Speaker 2: this TV show is excellent, especially for yoga teachers. Obviously
Speaker 2: it's explaining the mechanics of the mind. But there's this
Speaker 2: analogy I told you I see in pictures. There's this
Speaker 2: analogy or actually, you know, maybe it's a different TV
Speaker 2: show about mushrooms and psilocybin, which feels like a curveball,
Speaker 2: but it actually relates in the sense that it was
Speaker 2: talking about how taking a micro dose of psilocybin. Like
Speaker 2: if you and imagine your mind as a hill after
Speaker 2: it snows, that when you take psilocybin, it's as if
Speaker 2: there's fresh snow on a mountain and there's no trails
Speaker 2: in the mountain. It's just this completely beautiful capped mountain
Speaker 2: that's like a white canvas, like pure potential of the
Speaker 2: path that you could take, which is really good for
Speaker 2: the mind when you've gotten like drilled into what would
Speaker 2: be your normal path. So in yoga, this concept is
Speaker 2: called some scars some scaras meaning mental groove, and this
Speaker 2: is just the path in which you take in your mind,
Speaker 2: and each time you take it, it embedds into the
Speaker 2: groove of your mind deeper and it becomes less of
Speaker 2: a little trail and it becomes more of a road.
Speaker 2: And then that road becomes a highway. The more you
Speaker 2: pass through it, the stronger it gets in, the more
Speaker 2: set it becomes. And so a people pleasing high it's
Speaker 2: probably a highway for most of us. Like that's just
Speaker 2: more traveled that it's just more journeyed on, it's just
Speaker 2: more practiced. And so to take another road requires a
Speaker 2: dose of psilocybin.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, h There you go problem solved. I'm
Speaker 1: not encouraging you. I'm not encouraging you to take mushrooms.
Speaker 2: Maybe i am, but maybe you get my point of
Speaker 2: like if you're not going to get that fresh snow
Speaker 2: from the mushrooms, that the yoga practice can become that
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 1: You know, moving and breathing on your.
Speaker 2: Mat to see a different way, a different way to
Speaker 2: respond to the situation. So that's probably how I would
Speaker 2: say it through yoga terminology. Is there any other terminology
Speaker 2: that you would say that's in.
Speaker 1: This same vein? I think I would describe it very similarly.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought about the psilocybin part of it.
Speaker 1: I do, like when I think of it, like in
Speaker 1: my brain, I think more of like sand, like when
Speaker 1: you have like a marble going down sand and it
Speaker 1: like creates a groove, creates a path, and then like
Speaker 1: obviously that's the path if you put at the top
Speaker 1: of the hill, like it's going to go down the
Speaker 1: path that's most used. That seems like that that's just
Speaker 1: automatically what's gonna do. You have to almost like force
Speaker 1: it down another path to become you know, to get
Speaker 1: past the I to go into this next level identity
Speaker 1: to be a whole new, whole new person if you
Speaker 1: want to be to get past the people pleasing all
Speaker 1: of that, like you have to kind of force it
Speaker 1: a first, and then it becomes easier over time. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, like you were talking earlier about the
Speaker 1: growing pains and things like that, but it's not like
Speaker 1: when we're young, we have growing pains and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna decide to stop growing. It doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that, but like for our brains, we're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of sucked when I posted and
Speaker 1: nobody commented, or it kind of sucked when I didn't
Speaker 1: get anybody on my offers or whatever, whatever your goals are.
Speaker 1: I do a lot with like business owners, but and
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, I guess I'm just gonna stop then,
Speaker 1: Like you go through growing pains, you go through these things,
Speaker 1: and like obviously when we're going through growing pains when
Speaker 1: we're young, we can't stop that, but like who says
Speaker 1: we have to stop this side of things too, Like
Speaker 1: there's always growing pains when you're trying to grow and
Speaker 1: like be this next level person. So it's like, let's
Speaker 1: figure out a way to just keep pushing through. And
Speaker 1: it just shows, like with the analogy that you had,
Speaker 1: there's always a way. There's you said you do it,
Speaker 1: even with like your yoga practice, there is For the
Speaker 1: people that I'm really big with no excuses. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a big part of my brand and like
Speaker 1: who I am. And I just feel like so many
Speaker 1: people give them self excuses where it's like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't have the time, I don't have the space, I
Speaker 1: don't have the energy. I don't know how. There's so
Speaker 1: many paths to do this. There's so many You can
Speaker 1: do it by yourself. You can do it through breathing,
Speaker 1: like the yoga practices, Like you just have to put
Speaker 1: yourself out there and find a way. If you want
Speaker 1: to change your life, if you want to stop being
Speaker 1: a people pleaser, if you want to upgrade your identity,
Speaker 1: if you want to have like a booming business or whatever,
Speaker 1: you have to find there's always a way. There's always
Speaker 1: a way to go to the next level. There's always
Speaker 1: a way to take things to you know, the next
Speaker 1: step or whatever. You're just choosing to not find those
Speaker 1: ways because you'd rather listen to your excuses. If we're
Speaker 1: being totally honest with ourselves. And I've been there too.
Speaker 1: We all listen to our excuse, but it's just I
Speaker 1: hope that's the listeners take this as like a realization
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh shit, I've been holding myself back
Speaker 1: and I'm using my excuses to allow me to do that,
Speaker 1: which like, if you want to grow, you can't do
Speaker 1: that anymore. There's always a way to figure out, there's
Speaker 1: always a next step. Yeah, that's a great page.
Speaker 2: How do you feel like you help your people identify
Speaker 2: the difference between an excuse habitual, like a blind habit pattern,
Speaker 2: versus like honoring what really is because I do feel
Speaker 2: like there's a difference between like pushing and coasting that
Speaker 2: no excuses is I like saying you know it has
Speaker 2: I guess even just the phrase no excuses has this
Speaker 2: energy of like continuing to push and press on no
Speaker 2: matter what. And is that what you mean or is
Speaker 2: there where's the balance between honoring something versus I don't know,
Speaker 2: like making an excuse for something. I'm not sure I'm
Speaker 2: expressing my question clearly, but I you get what I'm saying, Like, well,
Speaker 2: how do you know when it's an excuse?
Speaker 1: Versus not. Yeah, And this is such a good question.
Speaker 1: I so I am someone who is like I, I
Speaker 1: am constantly doing something, and I think that's where that
Speaker 1: no excuses things comes in. I'm like, I'm a mom,
Speaker 1: I'm a wife, I'm a business owner, I'm a full
Speaker 1: time pharmacist. I'm the freaking president of the elementary PTO.
Speaker 1: Like I am all over the place. I like to hustle,
Speaker 1: I like to go like I am, I'm all over
Speaker 1: the and I also do stuff with cheer from time
Speaker 1: to time, like I was a cheer coach. I had
Speaker 1: to stop that I didn't have time anymore. But I
Speaker 1: just like had all of these things like that's who
Speaker 1: I am. So when people come up to me and like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just don't have the time, like let me see,
Speaker 1: let me see your your social media scrolling on your phone,
Speaker 1: and let me see if you actually did have the time.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't have the time. Okay, did you actually
Speaker 1: wake up on time or did you wake up at
Speaker 1: eight Like I'm over here waking up at four in
Speaker 1: the morning at the buck crack of dawn. Not saying
Speaker 1: you have to do that, but like there's always a way,
Speaker 1: but also it's no excuses. Like the way that I
Speaker 1: see this is like, Okay, I know one of my
Speaker 1: clients her dog just passed. I've I've been sick, and
Speaker 1: like my my kids have been sick. My my youngest
Speaker 1: had strapped the last day of school. He started school
Speaker 1: with strap and ended school with strap. I don't he's
Speaker 1: he's fun, but like those things, like sometimes, especially those
Speaker 1: of us that are moms, it's hard for us to
Speaker 1: show up one hundred percent all the time. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: for me, an excuse is saying the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over again. I'm too tired. I'm too tired. I'm
Speaker 1: too tired. It doesn't matter what day it is, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's going on in their life. Nothing, it's
Speaker 1: just the same excuse over and over again. But if
Speaker 1: you have times when like your kids sick and they
Speaker 1: were up all night, or you're sick and you were
Speaker 1: up all night or something like, there's something legitimate where
Speaker 1: it happens just every now and then, that's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: That's just life. Like life is life and sometimes and
Speaker 1: life just happens, especially for us moms, that shit hits
Speaker 1: the fan all the time, Like that's just part of
Speaker 1: life and that's okay. And so even last week I
Speaker 1: did not feel well. I think it was last Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I did not feel well. I like had full body
Speaker 1: like aches, like I did not I didn't sleep well
Speaker 1: the night before cause my kid was up coughing all night,
Speaker 1: and then I had to take my kid to the
Speaker 1: doctor and I was just like, screw everything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk to anybody. I don't want to work
Speaker 1: my business, like I hate it all. But the thing
Speaker 1: is is that I have standards for myself and what
Speaker 1: I do at a bare minimum for my business and
Speaker 1: for my life obviously, and so I figured out what
Speaker 1: is what's the amount that I can do, and like
Speaker 1: for me, it was like twenty percent of my normal
Speaker 1: I was like at a twenty percent that day. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, if I do twenty percent of that
Speaker 1: twenty percent, it's still one hundred percent. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to do that twenty percent because that is all that
Speaker 1: I can give today. And that's not me giving excuses,
Speaker 1: that's just me realizing this is life. I'm a human,
Speaker 1: not a robot, and sometimes things go haywire and this
Speaker 1: is what I do about it. It's not like, oh well,
Speaker 1: push through anyway and do all the hundred things that
Speaker 1: are on your to do list. It's it's about looking
Speaker 1: at what is actually what I can do today? Because
Speaker 1: shit hit the fan or whatever, What is actually what
Speaker 1: I can do today? And how can I do all
Speaker 1: like that part of what I can do today? Like
Speaker 1: how can I do the twenty percent of the twenty
Speaker 1: percent because that's no longer excuses, that's you still putting
Speaker 1: your all in and doing whatever it takes in that moment,
Speaker 1: in the energy that you have right now. Does that
Speaker 1: make more sense than explain that? Okay, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was great.
Speaker 2: And I think really just the backbone of it, or
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 1: To me, is like it just takes.
Speaker 2: The difference is like awareness is awareness, and it's like
Speaker 2: a conscious choosing versus the choice like making itself, you know,
Speaker 2: and like just going through it because you're on autopilot.
Speaker 2: So of course, of course this is my toxic trait
Speaker 2: as a yoga teacher.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it all comes back to awareness, guys. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I always say awareness it is the first step and
Speaker 1: identity work and everything. So I'm right there with you,
Speaker 1: not yoga, but just I'm right there with you. Awareness
Speaker 1: is the first step to all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that it's cot it's exhausted on one end,
Speaker 2: but also not like that's the funny thing about awareness
Speaker 2: is like I think when you're first training it and growing,
Speaker 2: I even think of the yoga practice as actually just
Speaker 2: attention and awareness training, and it's like learning how to
Speaker 2: be attentive and aware for longer and longer periods of time,
Speaker 2: because it can get so easy to get so caught
Speaker 2: up in thought, so juggling, you know, all the responsibilities
Speaker 2: that your brain is like so split, and your brain
Speaker 2: is not where your body is physically, like they're in
Speaker 2: two different places. And it's actually that split that's so exhausting.
Speaker 2: It's like trying to be here but thinking about all
Speaker 2: these things. And it's actually very RESTful to return the
Speaker 2: mind and the body in the same place and at
Speaker 2: the same time. So it's this conundrum of like at first,
Speaker 2: it takes effort at first, you know, but then it
Speaker 2: does actually end up being more RESTful to do that.
Speaker 2: So that all is so true. Thank you for helping
Speaker 2: us see the difference between those two and that it
Speaker 2: can be done. Like I love the tough love of it,
Speaker 2: you know of like okay, no excuses, or be really
Speaker 2: real with yourself, be really aware of if this is
Speaker 2: true in the moment and you need to adjust, or
Speaker 2: if this is just your blind habit pattern playing out again,
Speaker 2: because especially when you are going to your next level,
Speaker 2: it requires that ruthlessness a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that ruthlessness.
Speaker 2: You brought up motherhood and all of the challenges that
Speaker 2: motherhood brings. How it prioritizes, It helps you prioritize everything honestly,
Speaker 2: your projects and then also your time, like how you're
Speaker 2: managing your time. How do you feel like motherhood has
Speaker 2: changed the way you show up in your business.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually did not even start my business until
Speaker 1: I became a mom, So I'm a little bit different
Speaker 1: in that way than maybe some other people, just because
Speaker 1: I felt so motherhood where I always wanted to be
Speaker 1: a mom. It was always something that like there was
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Like I was the girl that
Speaker 1: had baby dolls. I didn't want Barbie dolls. I want
Speaker 1: a baby dolls because I wanted to pretend they were
Speaker 1: actually my baby, Like that is what I wanted. So
Speaker 1: I always knew I was meant to be a mom.
Speaker 1: But once I had kids, obviously it's a whole hell
Speaker 1: of a lot harder than you think. So trying to
Speaker 1: have that adjustment period and having kids, you know, about
Speaker 1: a year and a half apart, and which we did
Speaker 1: on purpose. It's fine, but and I love it now.
Speaker 1: But like it was, it was a lot. It was
Speaker 1: a lot, and it was something that like I felt
Speaker 1: so lost from, like I need something just for me
Speaker 1: and not pharmacy, and so I had I went on
Speaker 1: a whole adventure and that's a whole other topic, but
Speaker 1: I went on a whole adventure and found business through that.
Speaker 1: But I think for me it's really first of all,
Speaker 1: it's made me a morning person because I have to
Speaker 1: get up early if I want to get things done
Speaker 1: throughout the day, like that's that is my time. But
Speaker 1: also I feel like business just in general has helped
Speaker 1: me really become more of who I am, because I
Speaker 1: feel like business is like this whole personal development journey.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't start. I didn't start reading personal development
Speaker 1: books or listening to podcasts or anything until I became
Speaker 1: a business owner, until I started out network marketing, but
Speaker 1: until I did that and then eventually became a business
Speaker 1: owner like I didn't do any of that before then,
Speaker 1: and so it was really like motherhood really shot me
Speaker 1: into that because I I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: have ever tried to be a business owner if it
Speaker 1: wasn't because I was a mom, because I just felt
Speaker 1: that there was something missing, and I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not right because I'm a mom, something I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I have a great job, like what my
Speaker 1: husband's amazing, Like what is missing? And so they almost,
Speaker 1: even though they didn't do anything technically, they almost helped
Speaker 1: me find this passion because of that, and everything happens
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to, and so I think it
Speaker 1: happened in that way for a reason. But you know,
Speaker 1: really being able to show them that because they're both
Speaker 1: boys as well, so being able to show them that
Speaker 1: women work really freaking hard and we're really awesome. And
Speaker 1: I like to say I'm the queen of house. And
Speaker 1: so my son, my seven year old, will now say, hey, mommy,
Speaker 1: you're the queen of the house, right, I'm like, damn right,
Speaker 1: damn red I am. Because even my dog's a boy,
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by boy men being all around me. Like
Speaker 1: it's just there's no, there's no girls in this house
Speaker 1: besides me, So I'm like, I want to show them
Speaker 1: like how when they need to work hard too on
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, but like women also can
Speaker 1: work their asses off, we're not like and and also
Speaker 1: be the one that cooks. I mean my husband does
Speaker 1: things too. This is not saying he does that, but
Speaker 1: like I am somebody who is able to be this
Speaker 1: like relentless boss bitch, but also be so rooted in
Speaker 1: who I am as like a human, who I am
Speaker 1: as a mom, who I am as a wife, Like
Speaker 1: very almost that feminine masculine combination kind of thing where
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm very masculine when it comes to my business,
Speaker 1: like relentless, don't get in my way, no excuses. But
Speaker 1: then afterwards, like I'm like, you know, playing board games
Speaker 1: with the kids and running around and pushing them on
Speaker 1: the swing and cooking dinner and doing laundry and all
Speaker 1: of this, Like it's you can have both of those.
Speaker 1: And I think that I was able becoming a mom.
Speaker 1: I was able to bring both of those out so
Speaker 1: beautifully that I didn't really know how to do before,
Speaker 1: and now I'm able to combine them. I like to say,
Speaker 1: it's like Hannah Montana, I got the best of both worlds,
Speaker 1: so I'm able to combine them to be who I
Speaker 1: am now and who I've become and helping all the
Speaker 1: women that I've helped and my kids have definitely helped
Speaker 1: me with that, with that journey for sure.
Speaker 2: So well said, and I think it's a message that
Speaker 2: a lot of aspiring parents need to hear. And I
Speaker 2: know a lot of yoga teachers who listen to this
Speaker 2: are in that place where they're starting to think about
Speaker 2: a family, and maybe they're terrified of starting a family,
Speaker 2: mainly because of the way most yoga teachers see their options.
Speaker 2: They only see one and that their option is to
Speaker 2: teach yoga in studio for a studio, and they are
Speaker 2: thinking to themselves, like, oh my god, how am I
Speaker 2: going to have a family?
Speaker 1: Number one on that salary, Like it's not enough.
Speaker 2: To sustain me me as a person, let alone a family.
Speaker 2: And then also because you have to go in and
Speaker 2: do that, it's like obviously tied to your time and
Speaker 2: just kind of thinking of the logistics side of it
Speaker 2: of like how am I going to make this work?
Speaker 1: And at the same time, just.
Speaker 2: The pull, you know, the pull to become a parent,
Speaker 2: and how for me, I don't know how it was
Speaker 2: for you, Paige, Like the process was so much more
Speaker 2: painful than I could have anticipated in the sense of control,
Speaker 2: like wanting it to click, like getting pregnant, I mean
Speaker 2: wanting it to click so much sooner than it ended up.
Speaker 2: And I really learned a lot of patience during the
Speaker 2: process of getting pregnant and then actually being pregnant. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, if in my opinion, it is way harder
Speaker 2: than actually having the child, Like pregnancy is such a pose,
Speaker 2: a pose that you do not put down for months.
Speaker 1: Like the hardest yoga.
Speaker 2: Pose I have attempted yet is to be pregnant, just
Speaker 2: because of how like exhausting it is and stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 2: and then with business, I had my business before I
Speaker 2: became a parent, but I will say that I it's
Speaker 2: made me so much more. It helped me really see
Speaker 2: like what is actually the most important thing right now?
Speaker 2: And also think more in ten x as opposed to
Speaker 2: two X, meaning I'm like, what will reap the biggest
Speaker 2: results instead of like doing all this like little busy work,
Speaker 2: I'm like looking at what is the least amount of
Speaker 2: effort for the highest amount of return kind of thinking,
Speaker 2: which is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, Yeah, it helps, it helps a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They they help you see without even realizing it. They
Speaker 1: help you see kind of like what you're capable of
Speaker 1: and help you be able to figure out ways to
Speaker 1: do things in a different like how to do things
Speaker 1: in a different way so that way you can spend
Speaker 1: more time with them and you can do more things.
Speaker 1: Like me, I started off with doing like one on
Speaker 1: one calls and all of that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I got time for this, Like I got I have kids.
Speaker 1: I want to be present with them, like even for
Speaker 1: me finding all of these different ways to be able
Speaker 1: to make my business work where I do wake up
Speaker 1: even on the weekends. I wake up between four and
Speaker 1: five so I can get my business stuff done because
Speaker 1: I since I work full time, I don't have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time during the week to work my business.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I I have Monday. I have Monday
Speaker 1: to work my business. So I've I do like three
Speaker 1: or four hours each day on the weekend to be
Speaker 1: able to push push myself to kind of get some
Speaker 1: stuff like figured out like podcasts, outline things like that,
Speaker 1: figure out what I want to talk about all of
Speaker 1: the things. But like I used to do that after
Speaker 1: the kids woke up, and it got to the point
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh my gosh, I'm spending no
Speaker 1: time with them at all. And so it really helps
Speaker 1: you like look at your priorities in both your business
Speaker 1: and as a mom and figure out like okay, and
Speaker 1: like the thing is is like so many sacrifices, so
Speaker 1: many sacrifices, Like, yes, I'm sacrificing sleep, but I'm sacrificing
Speaker 1: sleep so that way I can hang out with my
Speaker 1: kids more. Like yes, I'm also on the other hand,
Speaker 1: sometimes I am sacrificing time with my kids, but it's
Speaker 1: so that way I can grow my business. I'm not
Speaker 1: dilly dallying. It's so that way I can grow my
Speaker 1: business and be able to spend more time with them
Speaker 1: later on. Like and I'm not sacrificing a whole day,
Speaker 1: but still like I'm sacrificing that time. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people, whether they're moms or not,
Speaker 1: they are afraid to do, and that's why they won't
Speaker 1: hit the next level because they're not willing to sacrifice anything.
Speaker 1: And so I think motherhood has also brought along this
Speaker 1: like realization that sacrifice is a huge part of life,
Speaker 1: but especially of motherhood and multiple multiple different areas in
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. Interesting.
Speaker 2: I've never really thought of it in through the lens
Speaker 2: of sacrificing.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is, but I feel like I've view it more
Speaker 2: through like I don't know, because sacrifice I feel like
Speaker 2: in my body and when I think of sacrifice, it
Speaker 2: feels like it's more focusing on what you are missing
Speaker 2: out on rather than like what you're gaining from that decision,
Speaker 2: which you know one's not either good or bad. I
Speaker 2: think it's just the way in which you're looking at
Speaker 2: it changes the like experience of it and the feeling
Speaker 2: of it, because it is like, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, you're making a choice, you're deciding, and anytime
Speaker 2: you decide for something, you're at the same time deciding
Speaker 2: against something else.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like for me, I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to think of it as like a sacrifice. I want
Speaker 2: to view it through the positive side just so that
Speaker 2: I feel like a little more like it feels easier
Speaker 2: to do it in that way to me personally.
Speaker 1: But I think they both work, you know, it arrives
Speaker 1: at the same end. Yeah, just like yeah, and that
Speaker 1: makes total sense and you can definitely I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's another word for me. I'm very much like
Speaker 1: as you can tell, like the tough love type of person,
Speaker 1: but in a way of love, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: in a way of showing people like, hey, there are
Speaker 1: sacrifices to be made, but also so much to gain
Speaker 1: from it, like so much to gain, Like I've also
Speaker 1: had to sacrifice my old identity, this shy identity that
Speaker 1: people pleasing identity, to become this confident woman, to become
Speaker 1: the person that starts her podcast, to become the person
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, podcast interviews anybody, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like to become that person right like, and so I
Speaker 1: think that that is there is a sacrifice. But if
Speaker 1: that doesn't resonate with you, like not just you, but
Speaker 1: anybody else that's listening, you know, there are other ways
Speaker 1: of looking at it where it's like you are also
Speaker 1: by allowing yourself to rid of the things that aren't
Speaker 1: always like aligned to you, you're also becoming like this
Speaker 1: more aligned person to who like you've always been meant
Speaker 1: to be right, And there are things that you have
Speaker 1: to let go of, but it's things that you can
Speaker 1: become even more beautiful. Like I'm thinking almost like a butterfly, right,
Speaker 1: Like the caterpillar sacrifices being a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
Speaker 1: Like that's part of it. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I see it. I don't know what word I
Speaker 1: would use here, or it's almost like a transformation, right,
Speaker 1: So you're you're releasing old things to be able to
Speaker 1: have this transformation of being who you're meant to be
Speaker 1: and being the best mom you're meant to be in
Speaker 1: all of that, but you have to let go and
Speaker 1: release some of the other stuff first before you can
Speaker 1: get to that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well said I mean, like the butterfly analogy
Speaker 2: or the phoenix feeling of rising from your own ashes,
Speaker 2: or like death death the old self to be born
Speaker 2: into the new, or the more aligned the more true.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Ugh, it's so good, well, Paige, holy smokes, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for just sharing all of your your genius
Speaker 2: and your wisdom and your energy.
Speaker 1: It has meant so much to me.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've had a really nice chat and
Speaker 2: I know the listeners enjoyed it as well.
Speaker 1: So if they're vibing with you and the work.
Speaker 2: That you do, especially around identity and standards, or they're
Speaker 2: wondering how they can plug into your community, can you
Speaker 2: tell them a little bit.
Speaker 1: About how they can do so. Yeah, so I'm in
Speaker 1: all of the places. I'm on Instagram. It's at page
Speaker 1: Marie m Ire. I'm not sure if you're going to
Speaker 1: put that in the show notes or not. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: you probably of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's my first name, middle name, so you can find
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. I'm also on TikTok. I've been loving threads.
Speaker 1: Threads is like my favorite thing right now, So threads
Speaker 1: literally everywhere except for Twitter. I'm using threads as Twitter
Speaker 1: right now, so I have all of those things. I
Speaker 1: also have an amazing free masterclass coming up. If you
Speaker 1: want details on that, you can always reach out to
Speaker 1: me and dm me. It's very much related to what
Speaker 1: we were talking about here with like the rooted and relentless,
Speaker 1: like being deeply rooted in your life while being relentless
Speaker 1: and creating the life that you desire, because I feel
Speaker 1: like there are so many women who secretly want more
Speaker 1: but are scared of what it takes to get to
Speaker 1: that point. And so really I feel like I personally
Speaker 1: have built this life of like this rooted and relentless,
Speaker 1: having that combination, like I said, the hand of Montana,
Speaker 1: best of both worlds, and I the whole goal of
Speaker 1: this free master class is to show women that like
Speaker 1: they can do it too, that they can be rooted
Speaker 1: in their values and their family priority all of that,
Speaker 1: but also relentless about their standards and their goals and
Speaker 1: their growth and all of that. So, if anybody was
Speaker 1: listening to this and like, hell, yes, I vibe with this,
Speaker 1: and you want to really figure out how to become
Speaker 1: both rooted and relentless and make it this beautiful freedom
Speaker 1: and this med I think that messed together, reach out
Speaker 1: to me and I will let you know as soon
Speaker 1: as the master Class link is live, depending on when
Speaker 1: this comes out, otherwise I'll just send you the link
Speaker 1: afterwards the replay. Yeah awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That sounds amazing, And of course everything will be linked
Speaker 2: in the show notes for people to check out. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much Paige for being here, and then to
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