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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Life is a Gamble and my

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name is Richard Bunchkin. My guest today has been a

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staple in Las Vegas for twenty five years. His name

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is Mac King, and Mac is a comedy magician and

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his show is hilarious. So I highly recommend if you

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haven't seen this show, you can catch it at the

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ex Caliber. But now let's talk to Mac. Matt King,

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Welcome to Life as a Gamble. So happy to have

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you here today. It's a real pleasure for me, so

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thanks for having me on. I guess I wanted to

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just start with you remember the first magic trick you

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ever saw?

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Speaker 2: I do actually pretty vividly. My my paternal grandfather, my

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dad's pop. He uh, he knew a couple of tricks,

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but this was the one I remember. I mean, I

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have such a bit. I mean maybe I maybe I

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built it up over the years in my head, but

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I believe I remember him picking me up in his kitchen,

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placing me on the counter, his kitchen counter. And this

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is how long ago it was. I mean, he was

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I was able to be picked up and put on

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the kitchen counter by my grandfather.

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Speaker 1: But also.

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Speaker 2: It was you know, there were matches to light that

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stove next to me, and so and he was the

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kind of fellow who always carried a pocket handkerchief, you know,

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with a little k in the corner. And uh he

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uh took that handkerchief and wrapped up the match stick

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in there and put it in my hands. And I

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broke that match, and I you know, I heard it break,

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felt it break in my hands, and then he opened

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up that handkerchief and that match was unharmed. And I mean,

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I mean, I can vividly remember the kitchen counter. He

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was for a few years, he made his living as

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a cartoonist, and so he was, you know, an artist

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all his life. But once he had a family, he

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started he started an insurance business, and that's what he

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did when I was around. But early in his life

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he was a cartoonist and so he had he had

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painted hand painted like the kitchen counter to look like marble.

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And so, I mean, I have a vivid memory of

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this kitchen counter and him him placing me on it,

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and you know, his pocket handkerchief. He always carried, you know, handkerchiefs.

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He was pretty dapper fellow.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny when I was thinking about this.

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In preparation for this, I was thinking about the first

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trick I ever remember seeing, and it was actually my

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grandfather's friend. And I had to be very young to

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be able to you know, I mean three four five,

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I don't know. But it was also in the kitchen

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and he took me in the kitchen and took little

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pieces of an He tore little pieces of a napkin

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into little squares and then he wet a butter knife

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and he put the squares on the butter knife and

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then was doing a paddle move trick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's that's I mean, that's I mean there

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are a lot of really great professional magicians who still

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do that trick. I mean John Carney, a great sleight

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of hand magician, still does that trick in restaurants. I've

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seen him do it for people, and it's on a knife. It's, yeah,

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on a butter knife with little pieces of paper that

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he's torn from a paper napkin and wow, and his

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little routine for it is really visual, really magical, and

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that yeah, oh yeah, that's a great, great trick. Whoever

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your grandfather's friend was knew some magic, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I'm sure he you know, pulled

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coins out of my ear something, you know. But but

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that was the one thing I remember. And I also

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remember whenever we would see my grandfather's friend, I would

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always ask him, you know, to to do some magic

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for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, that's a memorable thing, right. It's such an

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odd procedure, right, dipping the knife in the water and

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tearing up to get little pieces of paper. I mean,

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I mean it's a some that somehow that fixes in

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your brain.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's a whole kind of ritual. Yeah,

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So when did you start doing magic yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean he taught me that trick. I remember

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that too, you know, so I mean having my mind blown,

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And then even more mind blowing was seeing how relatively

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simple that was, right, I mean, he he had before

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he decided to show me this trick and taking a

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little match stick and put it in the hem of

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his handkerchief, and so that when he put it in

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my hand, I was breaking the one in the hymn.

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And when he opened it up, you know, that one

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remained hidden in the him, the broken one in the

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hole one tumbled out on the counter, and I was like,

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oh my god, because you know, I I think you think,

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you know, I probably was five years old, and I

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think up until that point you just think magic is

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real maybe or or people are you know, imbued with

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magic somehow, and so the fact that I could do

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that was just eye opening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, one of the sort of themes

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is this show is about the gambles people take in

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their lives, not necessarily for money, but just the risks

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that they take. And anybody who goes into the art

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is sort is absolutely you know, taking a big risk.

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So when did you actually start performing magic?

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Speaker 2: I've always said, and I believe this to be the case,

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that the first show I did for money, you know,

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was like, you know, a neighborhood kid, you know, Sissy

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Herbert's birthday party and I got like five bucks in cake.

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Speaker 1: I think that was you know, that sounds like a deal.

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Speaker 2: But so I was probably twelve years older around around

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and there when I did that. I want you but

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I've been you know, sort of working on magic really,

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I mean, seriously is hard. That's a strong word for

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an eight year old, right, But but i'd been you know,

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fiddling around with magic and you know, really interested in

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it as a hobby, you know, starting around eight, and

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so I think that was the first show that i'd

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done for money. But my my mom's dad actually had

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some magic books at his house, and so I had,

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you know, poured through these books pretty good by that time,

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and and he was They were always really sweet and

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encouraging to me. My mom's parents, you know, they lived,

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we didn't live in the same town, but whenever we

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would go to visit them, they would you know, invite

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their neighbors over to sit in their living room, and

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I would do shows for them, and it was just

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you know, and there was one particular neighbor I remember,

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a woman named Dorothy Merrell. I mean I was ten

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years old and still Dorothy Murrell scarred me. I remember

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her name, Dorothy. You know, she she wasn't going to

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let a ten year old get by with, you know,

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something that was lame. She was really critical and you know,

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if she saw something, she would point it out. And

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at the time, you know, my grandparents were sort of

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mortified that their friend would you know, sort of be

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an asshole to their old friend son. But but looking

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back on it, I think it was really useful right

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to have somebody like that, And so that was kind of.

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So the I did little shows for my family and friends,

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you know, and I did shows at school and the

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Talent Show and that kind of thing. But that first

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that Herbert Birthday party was the first paid show.

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Speaker 1: Was your plan, like, when you get to high school

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or whatever? Was your plan? Okay, I'm gonna finish high

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school and then I'm going to go be a professional

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magician or did you have some other.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. I wasn't I my plan. I didn't.

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I've never had a plan. Really. I feel like I've

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been buffeted about by the universe and it's always worked out. Okay,

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So my plan was to go to college. I I

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did pretty you know, I was pretty good student and

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got a number of scholarship offers kind of around the country.

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My only real plan was to go to school far

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enough away that I couldn't drive home and that my

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mom couldn't drive to visit me easily.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way kids were back then right now

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now they were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to get away. I wanted to get away. Yeah,

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and so and I went with the idea of majoring

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in math. Actually I had some aptitude for that. And

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when I got to college. It turns out you had

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to go to class every day to be really good

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at math, and at that.

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Speaker 1: Level, I hate when that happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so uh so. But I was on a

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you know, pretty pretty great scholarship and at one point

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I thought about quitting school to become a chef. But

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a local friend of mine in Louisville, uh, you know,

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convinced me that that was you know, look, you're this job.

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I had been offered a job in Kentucky to that was.

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That's sort of I've feel like I'm pretty good at

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three things. I'm pretty good at math at that time.

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That's like a language, so I think if you don't

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use it for you know, a long time goes away.

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I still use this. I'm pretty good cook. And then

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I'm pretty good at magic tricks. And so it was

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those three were kind of battling it out, and math

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lost out first because it was it got way harder

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and uh uh and so I switched to anthropology in college,

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and I have a fine degree in anthropology. And then

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oh yeah I can. I can reassemble chicken skeletons after

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a nice dinner. But uh uh so uh then uh

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then I thought about being a chef, decided to stay

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in school that would be there when I was done.

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And and then during the summers in school, while I

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was cooking the one summer in a really nice restaurant

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in Louislle cat in my hometown. He's called six ten

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Magnolia's still there, I got a phone call in the

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while I was doing some prep stuff to go audition

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for to do a magic show in this theme park

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like two hours outside of Louisville in Cumberland Falls, Kentucky,

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at a place called Tombstone Junction. And it was like

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an old Western theme town. They had a train ride

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where the gunfighters would you know, the bandits would rob

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the train, the sheriff would shoot the bandits and the

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train would drive on and and then doing a little

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magic show and what they call the saloon, but you know,

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they sold Hamburger's and cokes, no outcohol, not really much

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of a saloon. And with and that was so. And

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at that point I was doing some shows with another

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local magician, a guy named Lance Purton, who was a

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pretty successful Las Vegas magician. And uh so he and

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I were doing shows together a kind of you know

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for here and there just one off birthday parties, corporate things.

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in the summers we would do shows together. So I said,

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can I bring my buddy to this audition. I went

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down there and we got this job. So during the

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last two summers of school college, I worked in this

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amusement park. Lance and I did and so doing three

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shows a day, seven days a week. And so at

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that point that's kind of when I thought, you know what,

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when school is over, I think I can maybe make

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a run this as profession.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So when you were working with Lance, was it

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like a duo or yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We oh yeah. So he would come out and

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he would do I don't know whether you ever saw

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Lance's show here in Las Vegas, sure, but yeah, so

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he sort of sprang the fame with this twelve minute

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act with producing cards and candles and doves, and so

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he sort of already had that act, and so he

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would do that act, which was like eleven twelve minutes,

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and then I would come out and do like a

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eleven or twelve minutes, and then we would close with

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a thing together. So we were doing like we were

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doing like thirty thirty five minutes and so and so

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we lived there in this park. It was great for

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both of us. I mean we did, like I said,

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three shows a day, seven days a week, and sometimes

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more on Sundays when it was busy. And they had

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a big amphitheater that we would work in on Sundays

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because they would have country music, you know, you know,

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Conway Twitty and Barbara Mandrel and whatever in this big thing.

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would come on Sundays, and so we would do extra

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shows Sundays. It was just a great training grant. And

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we lived there in the park and we had access

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to our little theater at night after the park closed,

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and so we could really work on our acts. It

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for you know, we were like seventeen, eighteen years old.

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Speaker 1: It was nuts and getting a lot of reps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's the main thing. A lot of reps

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in front of people who you know, are genuine critics,

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right they they're it's not your friends or your family,

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they're people who you know, if if they don't like it,

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they don't clap or laugh.

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Speaker 1: Right right by the way, I wanted to add, you

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said you were good at three things, but I think

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you also should add a fourth, which is you are

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very good at comedy. Okay, thank you. Yeah, the famous

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quote tragedy is easy, comedy is hard, or dying is easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dying is easy, comedy is hard. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so did you and Lance talk about after

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that taking your show on the road or you just

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kind of parted naturally and you're.

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Speaker 2: So we he he move. I still had one more

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we finished. We did three years there together, so I

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guess it was my between my freshman and sophomore and

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between my sophomore and junior, between my junior and senior year.

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did three summers together, and then I still had some

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school to do. I still had another year. And so

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he moved to Los Angeles at that point because he'd

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gotten this offer to be on this big prestigious magic

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show in LA and they they always booked somebody from

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that show. It was like a ten day run of

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magic shows in LA, and they always booked somebody from

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that show on the Onto the Tonight Show Johnny Carson,

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and so they decided to have Lance on there and

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that was his like big giant break, and so he

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was already you know, at that point, I was still

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in school, but he was kind of soored into who

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you know, a kind of another level of show business

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that I was in.

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Speaker 1: So this ten day show was a live show with

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live It was a.

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Speaker 2: Live show in the theater. It was called It's Magic.

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It was produced by Milt Larson and Bill Larson, who

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started and ran the Magic Castle in Hollywood. But it

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was it wasn't at the Magic Castle. It was in

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big theater in la And because the Magic Castle is exclusive,

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you can't get in there unless you know, remember, but

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this was a big show for the public and they

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people would, you know, magicians would kind of come from

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all over the world to be a part of this show.

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Speaker 1: Huh. So what happened to you then when you finished?

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Speaker 2: So then when I finished school, I went back to

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that amusement park by myself and worked on my own

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my show at that point. So I was doing the

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full thirty thirty five minute show by myself at that point.

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And then I got pretty lucky in that comedy clubs.

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college in eighty one and so comedy clubs were just

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kind of springing up around the country outside of LA

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and New York, in Chicago, you know. And so and

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there was a guy in Louisville, my hometown, who was

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at one point been booking jug bands, but started booking comedy,

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started booking comedy in these you know, small bars, you know,

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in Kentucky and Tennessee and Ohio and Michigan and West Virginia.

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And so I kind of got in on the ground

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floor of that. And because I'd already been working on

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my own show for quite some time. I mean I

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was twenty one or so at this point, and so

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because I've been working on my show for some time,

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I already had, you know, the thirty five minutes or

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thirty minutes of material that you would need to be

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a middle act in those clubs. So I didn't have

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to start at the very beginning as with a fifteen

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minute spot. I got slotted immediately into the middle act spot.

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And so so I I got in, like I said,

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I kind of on the ground floor of that. And

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then after a few years of that, I moved to

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LA too and started you know, headlining those clubs around

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the country. The improms and the funds and whatever around

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the country. So that was you know, that was in

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the early mid eighties, and I did those clubs for

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you know. I mean I was on the road two

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hundred and twenty days a year starting around eighty three

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until two thousand when I started in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, that's a tough I was on the

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road for decades as well, not doing magic. I don't

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know if you know my background or not at all,

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but you know I I gambled professionally and right, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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so yeah, life on the road, man, that gets over you.

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Speaker 2: I mean I assume you were kind of just staying

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one step ahead of the law at all times.

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Speaker 1: Well no, no, I I always played on the square.

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So but that that was kind of my intersection with

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the magic world was because I started out before I

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started playing in the casinos, I was playing backgammon and poker,

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and I was very interested in magic to make sure

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I wasn't being cheated.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a

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lot there's there's there seems to be kind of a

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lot of crossover among those worlds, right, you know, uh,

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people that are interested in card cheating and people that

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are interested in that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and people that are interested in gambling I

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mean legit I mean legal gambling.

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Speaker 2: But no, but I mean but but but like you said,

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I mean, but the gamblers are interested in magic like

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sort of like you. I think they don't want to

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they want to be able to spot somebody who's us

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and them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, although although some of them do have

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legitimate just they're interested in magic, you know, they like y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know you mentioned you were good at math,

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and so when you got to Las Vegas, did you

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investigate gambling with an edge?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: No, that's surprising to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's uh, it's never that's never been an

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interest of mine. I don't you know. I mean I

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have a number of friends who made their living, you know,

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doing gambling, and yeah, but it's never been something that, uh,

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I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. Some people aren't interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's not something that I kind of am thankful, right

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because I'm you know, that's a that's a that's another

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you know obsession that uh that you can you know

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that you can uh go down that rabbit hole. Yeah,

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And so I've got enough of those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know when you got here

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to Las Vegas, I have to tell you, I your

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show is when people ask me what show to go see,

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your show is the one I have recommended by far

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more than any other show. It's you know, A, it's hilarious. B.

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It's much cheaper than the other shows. It's a great

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show for kids. And you know at Harrah's you were

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on in the afternoon. I'm not sure when are you

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on it now?

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Speaker 2: The same I'm on in the afternoons at ex Caliber too. Yeah,

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and you know it's so funny. It seems brand new

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right at ex Caliber and I in June it was

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four years, but I've been there and it seems like

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just brand new. But that's I think that's because Hara's

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was so long. I was there twenty two years almost,

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you know too, yeah, twenty a little over twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Just to get a little inside baseball here, do

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you four w all the theater or are they or

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is the casino actually producing the show.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy spy entertainment, Adam Steck. Okay, so he

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controls that room at ex Caliber. At Harris, I was

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partners with the casino, and now I'm sort of partners

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with Adam Steck and he has Thunder from down Under

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and the BEG shows in that room, but he also

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has done other shows around town. He had the Mike

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Tyson Show and that was going in town and some

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other other stuff. Yeah, so sho, I share the stage

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with those Thunder from down Under guys. So it's hard

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to tell the difference, really is hard to tell the difference, right.

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Speaker 1: So be having also been a performer, everybody has stories

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about things that go wrong, either audience members that don't

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do what they're supposed to do, or I had a

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friend who worked for a for a headlining magician here

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in town. It was one of the boy dancers, you know,

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to wave at the box when it opens some things.

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And they opened the box and the leopard had died

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in the boats, you know. So yeah, But anyway, so

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I'm wondering if you could share any of your sort

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of greatest hits of things going wrong on stage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't. I mean, I don't have anything

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to compare with a dead giant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have certainly had my share, I mean,

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And that's what that's what I mean I've been doing

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the show a long time here in Las Vegas and

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before that a long time prior to Las Vegas, and

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so uh, I love it when something goes wrong, really,

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it keeps It's what one of the things that keeps

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it fresh. I mean, I like leaving sort of it's

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weird to say, like open spaces for things to happen

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every show. Not every show. Do things happen you know,

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that are that are out of the ordinary. Sometimes it's just,

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you know, as it's normally planned. But I like having

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I like leaving an opportunity for unplanned stuff to happen.

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Speaker 1: It forces you to improvise, which many people are not

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comfortable doing, but obviously you are.

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Speaker 2: I I I feel like I'm yeah, I'm comfortable at it,

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and it does keep the show fresh for me, right.

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I think that's one of the things that you know,

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people say, how do you keep doing these shows and

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stay fresh? And you seem like you're still really engaged.

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And I think that's part of it, is that I'm

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open to these things happening and and like it, and

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I like having I like having to deal with those

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things like this is this is years ago, but I

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do it. The show opens with me doing a rope

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trick and doing trick with rope, and it gets more

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and more complicated and more and more I hope amazing

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as it goes on. But I've done it a long time.

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It was a trick that I kind of you know,

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I mean, the magician cutting a rope and putting it

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back together is an old trick. But over the years

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I've added some stuff that I've come up with too,

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I hope make that even more mysterious and even funnier. So,

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but I've been doing it a long time and I

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can do it sort of without thinking about it. You know.

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It's muscle memory, really and so and so one of

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the things that I'm doing I open with this trick,

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and one of the things I'm doing is kind of

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scoping out the audience, watching for people because there's a

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lot of audience participation. And during that trick, I pick

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out at least two of the people that I'm going

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to use later in the show, and by you know,

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facial expressions and body language and if they seem to

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be open and having a good time. And so I'm

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picking those people. And so sometimes this particular time, I

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wasn't paying enough attention to these really super sharp scissors

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that I have, And so I cut the end of

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my thumb off just a little out that you could

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see it arc in the light in this club, like

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you know, And in my mind I don't think this

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is true, but in my mind it it made it.

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There's like a sound effect went. I don't believe that

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really happened, but it did. And this was a comedy club,

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and so there were it was a club in a

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hotel lounge actually, and so and there was a table

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right right up on the edge of the state and

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so this little piece of me landed on the front table.

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And so and I'm sure you've cut yourself many times

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and and what you know, I put my finger over

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that the end of my thumb and sort of, you know,

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say a little signent prayer like hopefull, hopefully it's not bad.

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Hopefully it's not bad. It's not bad, it's not bad.

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And then you look and it's like, oh, it's okay,

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and then whoosh, a bunch of blood and so uh

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and so I I've got my little suitcase of props

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next to me, and I was working on a trick

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that had that involved band aids, and I thought, oh,

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maybe I have a band aid in here. I wasn't

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a trick that was in the show yet, but I thought, maybe, oh,

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from that trick, maybe I have some band aids in here.

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I didn't, but I did have some like clear like

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scotch tape, And so I tried to manage my thumb.

476
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Speaker 1: Up did you retreat the peace or or leave that

477
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,519
on the terrible Uh?

478
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,759
Speaker 2: It was terrible. I mean it didn't do anything. Yeah,

479
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,279
they just directed the blood, you know, Damn, I don't

480
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,599
it's but I managed to get through. So I kind

481
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,839
of I pulled that off and kind of managed to

482
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:13,680
get through the end of the rope trick. You know,

483
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,400
there's blood on the rope. And it was just sort

484
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,599
of really in a terrible way of discussing. So wait,

485
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,160
wait did the audience audiences, well, the audiences, I don't

486
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,720
you know.

487
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,039
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, if you would think this was part

488
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,119
of the trick, right, I.

489
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,319
Speaker 2: Think, yeah, I don't know what. I couldn't tell you.

490
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880
I was so concentrated on my thumb and getting the

491
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,720
physical actions. Now I had to really think about it, right,

492
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,240
trying to get through these things with a sort of

493
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,720
crippled thumb and not get too much blood on the

494
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,880
rope and whatever. So so, but I get through it,

495
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,160
and and I did what I normally, I didn't do

496
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,279
what I normally do. I said, uh to the audience.

497
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,319
Normally at this point I would get a random person

498
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,799
from the audience, but I think under the circumstances, it's

499
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:10,119
better if we uh get a nurse. Is there a

500
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:18,000
nurse here tonight and a woman I'm a nurse, come

501
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:22,000
on up. So this woman comes up and uh, she

502
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,519
I mean, she looks at my thumb and she immediately

503
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,519
goes into nurse mode. Right she steps between me. I'm on,

504
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,440
I'm working with a mic on a stand, and she

505
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,079
steps between me and this mic and she just takes

506
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,839
over and she and there was a bar in the

507
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960
back of the room, and she calls back to the

508
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
bar on the mic. She says, uh, send up a

509
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,440
first aid kit and a shot of vodka. Like I

510
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,519
don't really drink hard alcohol, so uh, but it turns out,

511
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,559
I mean, so they sent up they had a little

512
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:57,599
first aid kit behind the bar, and they sent up

513
00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:01,720
some vodka. And she made me dip my thumb down

514
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200
into this. Oh, I mean it's I mean I felt

515
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640
like a you know tech savery cartoon, you know, steam

516
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:13,319
shooting out of my ears. Right, I felt like so that,

517
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:18,279
but then it's instantly shot through, right, I mean the vodka. Uh.

518
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,480
And I you know again the improv thing that you're

519
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:30,160
talking about. I say water to wine and uh and

520
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,559
then I uh, then I say to the front I

521
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,279
put it. I put it down on the front table

522
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,720
and said, thank you for being patient, and I have

523
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,640
a little gift for you. You get a bloody married.

524
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,279
I had those two little I had those two little jokes.

525
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,200
She bandaged up my thumb and I got through the show.

526
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,079
And at the time, uh, this is before we moved

527
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,799
to LA. My wife and I were traveling together. She

528
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440
was traveling with me. She's from Kentucky. Also. We were

529
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,759
traveling together, and we were living in hotels because I

530
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,279
was traveling around the country and we're gonna we were

531
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,039
going from Louisville to the East coast and then back

532
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,039
across the country and end up in La where we

533
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,759
had an apartment that we had rented. But we had

534
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,519
like six or eight weeks that we were traveling around

535
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:20,559
in living in the hotel. So she was in this.

536
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,319
She was up in the room and I've done this show,

537
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,000
and so I leave and go back to the room

538
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,519
and she, you know, I'm I'm mean to her sometimes,

539
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,480
I like mean practical jokes on her. So when I

540
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:40,079
she said, how was it, And I said, well, I

541
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,839
cut off part of my thumb and she's, ha, ha,

542
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:48,400
you're very funny. Oh no, and I said, I really

543
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,279
did cut off just the very tip of my thumb.

544
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:53,559
Oh my god, we have to go to the hospital.

545
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,519
I said, I think you're right, but I have a

546
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,559
second show, so I'm going to do the second show

547
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,680
and then we'll go to the hospital. And so that's

548
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,720
what we did. I mean, you know, show must go on.

549
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,960
So I go do the second show and she as

550
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,359
you know, she's she's in there watching now because she's

551
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:14,599
curious about me doing the show with my thumb band.

552
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,319
So and then but she knows the order of the

553
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:19,640
show and show she knows, like, you know, he's got

554
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,559
like fifteen minutes to go. I'm going to go get

555
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,039
the car. She said, I'll meet you, you know, we'll

556
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,640
zoom out of here. I'll meet you, you know, I'll

557
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,319
pull up in the front of the hotel and we'll

558
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,480
in the car and you can just get right in

559
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,039
the car and we'll go to the Burdency room. And

560
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440
because it's like, you know, by this point, it's probably

561
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,759
eleven o'clock at night. And so so I finished that

562
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:48,079
show and I'm leaving, and this guy just will not

563
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920
stop complimenting me an audience member. Right, He's like tugging

564
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
on my sleeve. It's like Matt King, he was so good.

565
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:56,880
I just want to tell you how much I am.

566
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,839
I'm like, thank you, I'm really sid it, but I'm

567
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,960
trying also to extricate myself to make my way down

568
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,000
to the first floor. And so he he says, no,

569
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:11,359
I just want to tell you how much it was.

570
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,680
And me, he said, I came to the first show

571
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,079
and I thought it was so good. I bought a

572
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,039
turn around and bought a ticket for the second show.

573
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,559
And I was a little disappointed in your second show.

574
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:23,039
And now you know my ego, I go now I

575
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:27,880
stopped right. I want to hear why suddenly it's like, okay, uh,

576
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:33,200
this trip to the emergency room isn't isn't as all

577
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000
of a sudden. I want to know why he was

578
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,279
disappointed because I felt like especially for you know, doing

579
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:40,440
it with the band aide on my thumb, bandage on

580
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,480
my thumb. And he says, yeah, the first show, it's

581
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,680
so good. Second show a little disappointed. I you know

582
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:50,839
that that bit you did where you cut off your thumb,

583
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,359
you didn't do that in the second show. And I

584
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,000
thought that was the best part of the whole show.

585
00:33:55,119 --> 00:34:01,160
And so he he thought that was a trick. So

586
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,920
that's pretty good.

587
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, if you got if you've got.

588
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,359
Speaker 2: Time for another one there.

589
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: My favorite one, yeah, absolutely, my.

590
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: Favorite one is, uh, I do this bit in the

591
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,320
show or I toss a rope into the audience and

592
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,599
I get a woman up on stage and I say,

593
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400
you and I are going to do the Houdini Challenge

594
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:26,559
naked rope escape. I want you to take off your

595
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,800
clothes and tie me up. And then then then I

596
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,400
tossed the rope aside, so you don't have to tie

597
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719
me up. We're gonna do a quick card trick and

598
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
then I do a card trick with it. And so

599
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:41,440
I'm working this club in Knoxville, Tennessee, and the club

600
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,760
owner calls me, uh, Sunday afternoon, and he says, hey,

601
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,440
I'm bringing a date. This is our first date. I'm

602
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
going out with this woman bringing to your show tonight.

603
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,800
We're gonna sit right in the front. I want you

604
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,199
to get her up for that trick. The guy's name

605
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,480
was Barry, and I said Barry on them. I don't

606
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,639
really like getting people up that I know or that

607
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:04,320
a friend of friends, because they're you know, a big

608
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,599
part of my show is they're genuine reaction. And if

609
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,000
they if they're connected to me somehow, then I feel

610
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,400
like sometimes that reaction is He explained to me that

611
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,400
he was writing my check and so, and I'm like, okay,

612
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,199
I'll get her up and so. And like I said earlier,

613
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,599
I'm I'm spending the rope trick. I'm looking at her,

614
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,199
like you know, Barry and this woman are sitting at

615
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,039
the table in the front, and I'm spend this whole

616
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,159
rope trick looking at her, and she's always in the shadows.

617
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,960
I can't really get a good look at her to

618
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,599
see how she's reacting to the rope trick and see

619
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:48,079
whether she's going to be good and and so. But

620
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:50,280
I throw the rope and I get her up on stage,

621
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,239
and once she gets into the lights, I see that

622
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:58,639
she is the exact wrong person, I mean, just the

623
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,159
meekest little mouse of a woman. I feel terrible for her,

624
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,920
But you know, you say, you know, you perform before

625
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,400
and for anybody who else who has there's you know,

626
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,280
you're saying words, but there's also another voice in the

627
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,559
back of your head talking to yourself at the same time, right,

628
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,960
And so this little voice in my head is like, well,

629
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,760
I hope she does cry. It will serve him right

630
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,320
for making me get her up here and screwing up

631
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,400
my show. Blah blah blah. So but I'm I'm you know,

632
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,719
I'm going, you know, like a devil on one shoulder,

633
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,679
and they don't do it, do it, do it whatever?

634
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,719
And finally I say, okay, we're gonna do the Houdini

635
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,079
Challenge naked rope Escape. I want you to take off

636
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:43,320
your clothes and tie me up, and boom, she whips

637
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,960
off her dress. Oh Mary, the club owner is standing

638
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,760
up taking photos of me and this stripper that he

639
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,480
has hired to play a joke on me. It was,

640
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,239
it was, I mean, I mean I literally fell on

641
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,960
the stage. I was laughing so hard I fell down,

642
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,519
my knees buckled, I was laughing so hard. And so

643
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,719
that's that's one of my favorite things that's ever happened

644
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:09,880
to me.

645
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:14,679
Speaker 1: That's great, that's great, And I mean it sounds like

646
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,840
they did a really great job of.

647
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,199
Speaker 2: She was an amazing actress, right, I mean she was.

648
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,880
It was crazy and and and also I mean if

649
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,920
you knew this guy Barry, you just would not think

650
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,559
of him as capable. I mean, he ran a comedy club,

651
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,760
but to me, it wasn't a funny bone in his body.

652
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,440
And yeah, I would just I wouldn't have thought him

653
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:46,000
capable of doing something so perfect, hilarious.

654
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: That's great. How how many shows a week are you

655
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,280
doing now?

656
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:54,119
Speaker 2: Uh, depends on the week, but mostly five weeks, so

657
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,920
one show a day, five days a week.

658
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're I've sort of cut.

659
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: Down over the years. I mean I'm really super busy,

660
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,159
you know, super busy weeks. I'll still do two shows

661
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:09,679
a day, but it's I don't know, I don't want

662
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,559
to say I'm getting old, but well.

663
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, you are, you know,

664
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:20,000
getting there to social security age, any plans on retirement

665
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,360
or you're just going to keep going?

666
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,639
Speaker 2: And no, I'm going to keep going. I mean you know,

667
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,880
if you saw how miserable I was during the pandemic

668
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,400
when I was off work for like fourteen months or

669
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,559
whatever it was, I mean, it just I mean, it

670
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,159
really drove home for me how much I need it, right,

671
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:39,639
I mean how much it means to me to be

672
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,920
up there. And you know, so far knock on wood,

673
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,079
I'm I still feel like people are coming and they

674
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,480
still seem to enjoy the show. I mean, you know,

675
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:54,079
I had a good friend of mine say I feel

676
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:56,760
like say to me, and it's just the most I

677
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,079
mean I don't maybe my wife paid him to do it.

678
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,199
I don't know, but but but it was like, hey,

679
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,000
I feel like, you know, you're at the height of

680
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,639
your powers right now. Your your show is better than

681
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,639
it's ever been. So if even if that's not true,

682
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,119
it's I still feel like it's uh, it's it's good

683
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,000
enough to keep.

684
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,599
Speaker 1: Doing Oh there's no question, yeah of that.

685
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,599
Speaker 2: You know, and doing it. I still love going in

686
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,480
every day.

687
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that's there's that. And and what are you going

688
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,199
to do if not sit at home and watch TV?

689
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,599
I mean that's well, that's right.

690
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I might you know, there could

691
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,760
be a point where I go. You know what, I'm

692
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,880
not going to work five days a week every week.

693
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,599
You know, I where I could just start doing like

694
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,039
private shows or whatever and do three or four a month,

695
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,760
but you know, I'm not nearly to that yet. I mean,

696
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,280
I've still got almost two years on my current deal,

697
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,920
and I think I'll at least up for another three.

698
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do when you're not When you're not?

699
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:03,039
Speaker 2: For me, I've got a lot of buddies here in town.

700
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,519
You know, we share some of the same friends, I think,

701
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:10,360
and uh so we have a we have a pretty

702
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:16,599
bloody croquet match every now and again my backyard. Uh So,

703
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,079
I like cooking and hanging out.

704
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: With pals, and you know, my wife and I try

705
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,840
to travel some but I mean most of it's tied

706
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,559
to work, right, I mean I I just had it

707
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,800
worked in touring Italy for like four days.

708
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: But then we took another week to just kind of

709
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,920
go around Italy. So you know, I try to take

710
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,199
off some time, but you know, I can't take off

711
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:46,480
too much show these the ticket vendors around town don't

712
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care for that.

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Speaker 1: Well, this this has been great. I just want to

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thank you again. This has been a real, real treat

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for me.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me on. I

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really do appreciate it and I hope I get to

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see in person soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great. Well, there you have my

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interview with Matt King. If you didn't get it from

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the show, let me just say it again. If you're

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looking for a show to see while you were in Vegas,

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I can't recommend this show highly enough. I guarantee you

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that you will enjoy it. Anyway. You can reach me

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at life isagamblepod at gmail dot com, or you can

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find me on Twitter at RWM twenty one. So until

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next time,