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Speaker 4: we got a lot to get to. You're going to
Speaker 4: talk to Michael Harrison and in this hour looking forward
Speaker 4: to that. He's the creator of a magazine called Talkers,
Speaker 4: which is a talk radio magazine, but a great guy
Speaker 4: with great insight on a lot of different things. So
Speaker 4: I appreciate you all being with us and staying with
Speaker 4: us and sticking around once again.
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Speaker 4: folks from all over the country. So heavy news day.
Speaker 4: I wanted to start in one spot and if I
Speaker 4: have time, I'll finish in some of the areas that
Speaker 4: I wanted to finish in. But three more tankers now
Speaker 4: attacked in the Straits of Hormuz. So these tankers not
Speaker 4: isolated incidents. It's a direct challenge to the post Komane order.
Speaker 4: Fragile ceasefire is certainly up for grabs. Trump at well
Speaker 4: was in Turkey talking about NATO and going round and
Speaker 4: round there.
Speaker 5: It is a heavy news day.
Speaker 4: I mean for the world, this could mean higher energy prices,
Speaker 4: it could mean more of a.
Speaker 5: Choke point in the Straits.
Speaker 4: It's got geopolitical obviously ramifications for the economy. We would
Speaker 4: I felt like we would just beginning to get rolling.
Speaker 1: Put this thing to bed.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Stock market was at an all time high yesterday. But again,
Speaker 4: these these folks who only know one thing right, only
Speaker 4: no chaos, only want to wreak havoc. They don't want
Speaker 4: a deal. They want death to amount death to Israel,
Speaker 4: and they're going to continue.
Speaker 5: To poke the bear over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: I think that you know this, not that it's going
Speaker 4: to be a colossal mistake. But somehow, some way, a
Speaker 4: negotiation with these folks never works out. They're not trustworthy.
Speaker 4: You can never make them allies. They don't want to
Speaker 4: be that. I mean President Trump's administration, I mean has
Speaker 4: the tools to mandate, to respond, to clarify, to resolve
Speaker 4: this situation, and we may have to do that.
Speaker 5: We have to protect the commerce. We have to support
Speaker 5: our allies, and if.
Speaker 4: That means raining held down on them again, if we
Speaker 4: find out this was actually a military operation that struck
Speaker 4: these three ships, then we do it again. We unleash
Speaker 4: Holy Hell again, because you know, it's time for us
Speaker 4: to really protect us interest rather than this endless Middle
Speaker 4: East entanglement that we always seem to get ourselves into.
Speaker 4: America first means securing our energy future. That's what it
Speaker 4: should have always meant. Now. I know the progressives don't
Speaker 4: like that because it sounds like it's a conquering scenario. Right, Oh,
Speaker 4: we're out there conquering the world for their resources, you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4: If the plan was to control Venezuelan oil, and the
Speaker 4: plan was to have a more of a stranglehold on
Speaker 4: the Iranian oil, so our enemies China and Russia have
Speaker 4: to really scrape and search to actually get fuel or
Speaker 4: have to come through us to get it, I'm okay
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: I don't want to put boots on the ground.
Speaker 4: Nobody does, right, Nobody wants to see sons and daughters
Speaker 4: go over and die in the desert.
Speaker 5: I get that. But this has been opened.
Speaker 4: Now, this can of crap has been opened, and we
Speaker 4: have to close it. We cannot show weakness. We have
Speaker 4: to defend our interests. We have to lead through strength.
Speaker 7: And again, I wouldn't put the decision for boots on
Speaker 7: the backs of anybody because I know if that's the case,
Speaker 7: you know, many.
Speaker 5: People are going to die.
Speaker 4: But there are strategics, you know, strengthening strong points and
Speaker 4: choke points that we can get ourselves into in the
Speaker 4: straits where maybe we can have, you know, a better
Speaker 4: outcome on some of this stuff. But it's just it's
Speaker 4: frustrating because it seems like it's going in the right direction, seemingly,
Speaker 4: and then with the flip of a switch or literally
Speaker 4: the push of a button, you know, you've got three
Speaker 4: oil tankers attacked, and now you've got heightened risk, You've
Speaker 4: got boats that no longer want to go into the straits.
Speaker 4: You've got, you know, as of right now, a slowed
Speaker 4: down world economic scenario, and sort of like a wait
Speaker 4: and see attitude. So again, I don't trust these folks
Speaker 4: that never have we never should have. We decapitated the
Speaker 4: first leadership, we decapitated the second, and the third is
Speaker 4: worse than the first two. And I'm sure if we
Speaker 4: decapitate the third, the fourth will probably be worse. But
Speaker 4: you know what, we might as well just keep going
Speaker 4: in there and killing them all. I hate to say it,
Speaker 4: but this particular conflict has been this wound has been opened,
Speaker 4: and it'll fester, it'll it'll rot from the inside out.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I don't know what the overall
Speaker 4: plan is from the Trump administration. But we can't just
Speaker 4: go a couple of days like everything is hunky dory
Speaker 4: and then wham, you've got a couple of ships attacked,
Speaker 4: and wham, there's now a much slower movement through the straits,
Speaker 4: and wham bam this that and the other, and we've
Speaker 4: got absolute chaos in that region. So we'll see what
Speaker 4: tomorrow brings. You know, we're still still getting the reports
Speaker 4: on these tankers being.
Speaker 5: Hit, but in the end, it's going to cause a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of anks and a whole bunch of uneasiness.
Speaker 4: And you can bet that your oil prices, which were
Speaker 4: coming down, I mean, maybe we're going to get into
Speaker 4: the fifty something dollars range by the end of the summer,
Speaker 4: which I never thought was going to be the case,
Speaker 4: but now you got to expect.
Speaker 5: Unless this is.
Speaker 4: A one off and the Iranian government says it was
Speaker 4: in US or whatever excuse is thrown out there, you
Speaker 4: got to figure the oil prices we'll go back up
Speaker 4: after this, So we'll pay attention to that and watch that.
Speaker 5: I did want to start with this.
Speaker 4: I wanted to start with this before the story started
Speaker 4: because I talked about this morning this morning on my
Speaker 4: radio show, and it kind of goes hand in hand
Speaker 4: with what's going on in the Middle East and what's
Speaker 4: going on with Muslims, and what's going on with the Iranians,
Speaker 4: and what's going on with the out and outs assault
Speaker 4: on Christianity. Christianity, So bear with me because I want
Speaker 4: to kind of redo this. If you've listened to me
Speaker 4: this morning, you're going to kind of hear me talk
Speaker 4: about the same thing. But America is not a theocracy.
Speaker 4: We don't have a national church, and the First Amendment
Speaker 4: rightly guards against government's establishment of religion.
Speaker 5: Right, we don't want that.
Speaker 4: But on the other side of this, this is and
Speaker 4: I'm bringing this up, like I said, because there seemingly
Speaker 4: has been this attack on religion from our supposed friends
Speaker 4: on the left. But to pretend America was not built
Speaker 4: upon a strong Christian foundation, you're essentially denying our own history.
Speaker 1: Our evidence.
Speaker 4: The evidence is carved in stone, It's written in our
Speaker 4: founding document. A Bible rests inside the Washington Monument. The
Speaker 4: Ten Commandments are engraved in the walls of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: We still swear in our presidents, our congressmen, and witnesses
Speaker 4: on the Holy Bible. Again, unless you're certain, folks, I
Speaker 4: think Mondomi probably did it on a Koran, but I
Speaker 4: could be mistaken by that. And again at the very
Speaker 4: top of the Washington Monument or Latin words which mean
Speaker 4: praise be to God, declared the gratitude of our nation's builders.
Speaker 4: Congress opens every session with a prayer. That's not coincidence.
Speaker 8: It's not.
Speaker 4: It's a deliberate acknowledgment of the faith that has shaped
Speaker 4: the American character. From our Mayflower Compact or the Pilgrims
Speaker 4: declare their mission to advance the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 4: to the Declaration of Independence itself, which boldly proclaims that
Speaker 4: our rights come from our creator, not from our government.
Speaker 4: That is a crucial line, which boldly again proclaims that
Speaker 4: our rights come from our creator. No government can give
Speaker 4: you those rights. Christianity has been the moral and philosophical
Speaker 4: foundation of this republic since it's onset and Christians listen.
Speaker 4: We led the flight a fight against slavery. Christians champion
Speaker 4: women's suffrage. Christians drove the civil rights movement in the
Speaker 4: nineteen sixties, and for generations, the Lord's Prayer and Ten
Speaker 4: Commandments adorned our schoolhouses, taught our children virtue, responsibility, and
Speaker 4: the fear of God. Our founding fathers understood a fundamental truth.
Speaker 5: Our rights are given by God.
Speaker 4: That only if the rights are given by God, the
Speaker 4: moral who acknowledge that divine source can then they're the
Speaker 4: only ones that can preserve them.
Speaker 5: But founding fathers understood the fundamental truth.
Speaker 4: It's our rights they're given, They're not given by God himself.
Speaker 4: And how can the Constitution possibly secure God given rights
Speaker 4: if we erase God from the public square.
Speaker 5: Now listen, I'm not giving a.
Speaker 4: Sermon here. My point is that I talk a lot
Speaker 4: to progressives. I talk a lot to folks on the
Speaker 4: other side of the aisle who want to kill that
Speaker 4: idea that our founding fathers created. This country built on
Speaker 4: those ideals.
Speaker 5: Once again, my name is Lee Elsie. It's always a
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Speaker 4: I want to know why Wayne hasn't invited me to
Speaker 4: the Sphere out in Vegas. I mean, I do all
Speaker 4: these shows I fill in, Ever do I get an
Speaker 4: invite to the Sphere? I want to go see the
Speaker 4: eagles at the sphere or something like that. Right, I
Speaker 4: used to live in Vegas for goodness sake, all right now,
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to force a religion down anybody's throat.
Speaker 4: Nobody should do that. If you don't want to worship,
Speaker 4: you don't have to. If you don't want to believe
Speaker 4: in church, that's fine. If you don't think there should
Speaker 4: be one religion in this country, I agree with you
Speaker 4: on that, But there's a difference between trying to force
Speaker 4: your hand in that area and on the flip side,
Speaker 4: trying to deny the fact that our founding fathers, the
Speaker 4: men and women who built this country, they built it
Speaker 4: on the ideals that were inspired through them from God.
Speaker 4: And it's again not about forcing faith on you. It's
Speaker 4: about honesty. America's liberty, rule of law, respect for the
Speaker 4: individual were born from that Christian worldview that every soul
Speaker 4: bears the image of God, the power it must be limited,
Speaker 4: and that justice must reflect some divine moral order. This
Speaker 4: is not a religious sermon, That's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: This is actually a sermon about this country and how
Speaker 4: it was founded and why this country has survived. I
Speaker 4: told you time and time again, I've said this behind
Speaker 4: this microphone for twenty years, and I'm not somebody who
Speaker 4: regularly goes to church. A shame on me. Right, We've
Speaker 4: had philosophical discussions about God himself and what happens after
Speaker 4: you die in all of that creation, But there's no
Speaker 4: way you can tell me that somehow, someway there wasn't
Speaker 4: divine intervention in the building of this nation. I mean,
Speaker 4: those men that came together at the same time, with
Speaker 4: the same ideas, the same beliefs, pledging their lives, their fortune,
Speaker 4: and their sacred honor.
Speaker 5: Together was a miracle.
Speaker 4: It was nothing short of a miracle that has survived
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty years. The founder's design was secular
Speaker 4: in spirit. It was deliberately rooted in a Judeo Christian
Speaker 4: principled outlook.
Speaker 5: That's what it was.
Speaker 4: And we face now today people who want to rewrite
Speaker 4: that story, to scrub every reference to God from our
Speaker 4: heritage and replace it with a government authority, the ultimate
Speaker 4: government authority fact, right, I mean to a progressive, the
Speaker 4: government is the higher entity.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: It was global warming for a while.
Speaker 4: Now it's just the idea of this social mentality that
Speaker 4: is their new religion, and we must reject all of that.
Speaker 4: Dangerous revisionism got to teach your kids the story, the
Speaker 4: true story of this exceptional nation, how it started, how
Speaker 4: it evolved, how it weaved itself through all of it,
Speaker 4: and embraced that. It's a moral framework that has made
Speaker 4: this amazing experiment of self governance possible. I'm wowed by
Speaker 4: this country. I'm wowed by what it has evolved into.
Speaker 4: Does it have a million problems? Yeah, it has a
Speaker 4: million problems, tons of problems. And we have a lot
Speaker 4: of work to do, no question about that. We have
Speaker 4: issues with the extreme rich and the extreme poor. We've got,
Speaker 4: you know, heavy division politically within the ranks. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of things that we can work on. But when
Speaker 4: you look at other nations, when you look at other
Speaker 4: you know, failed states, this has been, again, nothing short
Speaker 4: of a miracle. We are that Republic's shining city on
Speaker 4: a hill. Don't ever forget that, and don't ever forget that,
Speaker 4: these god given rights enshrined in our founding documents.
Speaker 5: Let you.
Speaker 4: Pursue that happiness that dream. Can't do that in another nation.
Speaker 4: We're the luckiest people ever.
Speaker 8: Think about it.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 4: You might not think that, but you were born an
Speaker 4: American citizen, or you came here and became an American citizen.
Speaker 4: If you're listening to me and you're the luckiest people
Speaker 4: on the planet. You could have been born at the
Speaker 4: same time. But you could have been born in China,
Speaker 4: you could have been born in North Korea.
Speaker 5: You could have been born in.
Speaker 4: Some remote place in Africa without running water or electricity
Speaker 4: or any of it. No, you were born here, and
Speaker 4: you should be inspired by what our founding fathers brought
Speaker 4: to the table. This idea of life, liberty, and the
Speaker 4: pursuit of happiness, justice for all. That's why we fly
Speaker 4: the Red, white, and blue. That's why our birthday number two.
Speaker 4: We should all be incredibly proud. America was built on
Speaker 4: Christian foundations. That's not an opinion. I'm not making it up.
Speaker 5: It's history, and I think it's time.
Speaker 4: That we rightfully reclaim that history because it's an important
Speaker 4: part of what makes us what we are. All Right,
Speaker 4: I got to take a short break once again. My
Speaker 4: name is Lee Elsie. It's always a pleasure to fill
Speaker 4: in for Wayne Allen. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 5: war Zone. I'll welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: It's the war Zone and of course you can watch
Speaker 4: on the Gateway Pundit, Wayne's Rumble, Wayne's X get a
Speaker 4: Root for America, all those great places. I think Wayne
Speaker 4: will be back on maybe Thursday. I think Thursday or Friday.
Speaker 4: I know the one thing I do know that Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne,
Speaker 4: this is going to be fun.
Speaker 5: Freedom Fest.
Speaker 4: The World's Fair of Liberty is coming fast July eighth.
Speaker 4: It's here, man, what's today?
Speaker 5: I tell you the SATs tomorrow right. Oh, That's where
Speaker 5: Wayne's going to be tomorrow, the World's Fair of Liberty.
Speaker 5: So you got to go to this.
Speaker 4: The most popular event at Freedom Fest every year is
Speaker 4: the mock Trial, and this year Ice Ice itself will
Speaker 4: be put on trial and Wayne Allen Root will be
Speaker 4: the defense attorney for Ice. Star witness for the defense
Speaker 4: will be that Superman actor Dean Kine and veteran Border
Speaker 4: Patrol agent JJ Carrell.
Speaker 5: Twelve jurors will.
Speaker 4: Be selected from the audience, and as I've been telling you,
Speaker 4: you could be one of them. That'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 4: Get up there on stage. It'll take place Friday or Friday,
Speaker 4: July tenth, five o'clock. So Wayne has arranged for a
Speaker 4: special one day pass for his fans to attend Freedomfest
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Speaker 4: dollars off. I don't know how Wayne does it, man,
Speaker 4: I'm serious. He's all over the place. He's one thousand
Speaker 4: miles an hour. I had to take a nap today.
Speaker 4: I took a nap. I'm a grown man, nap idn't
Speaker 4: really get a good nap though. Was only twenty minutes,
Speaker 4: but I needed it. But this guy, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: doing fifteen shows. He is running around in the g
Speaker 4: lunatic and now he's defending Ice, which I think.
Speaker 5: Would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: I kind of would would like to I wish I
Speaker 4: could have could have gone to that. It seems like
Speaker 4: that would be a lot of fun to check that out. Oh, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, So one of our favorite people in the
Speaker 4: entire world to talk to it. Hopefully we can keep
Speaker 4: him a little bit, and that's Michael Harrison from Talkers.
Speaker 4: And you know, Michael has been doing this amazing get
Speaker 4: I think it's a gift to media personalities, in particular
Speaker 4: talk media personalities.
Speaker 5: I think since well the eighties, Mike, is it the eighties?
Speaker 5: You've had this magazine that long, right.
Speaker 8: Almost the eighties.
Speaker 11: We launched it in July of nineteen ninety, so it's
Speaker 11: going I'm thirty six years old.
Speaker 8: Amazing.
Speaker 4: It is amazing, and it is the bible, if you will,
Speaker 4: for talk radio. And I thank you for coming on.
Speaker 4: I know you're super busy and you've probably got a
Speaker 4: million people tugging at you all the time, but.
Speaker 5: I wanted to talk to you about a few things
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 4: We'll start with the media and then well, if you
Speaker 4: don't mind, morph into the world of politics. But you
Speaker 4: coin the term media station back in the nineties, how
Speaker 4: accurately did the vision predict where radio is today? Because
Speaker 4: radio is a part now of this giant mechanism of
Speaker 4: the media.
Speaker 5: Right, you can't do a radio.
Speaker 4: Show really anymore without having a video component, right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And also you have to be able to write,
Speaker 11: you have to put out some type of a text component.
Speaker 11: You have to be able to post pictures.
Speaker 8: You know, graphics.
Speaker 11: There's no isolated media the way there was back in
Speaker 11: the twentieth century, when a newspaper was a newsprint and
Speaker 11: that was it, and the local television station did the news,
Speaker 11: and they presented news programs on a video screen, which
Speaker 11: was your TV set, and radios came out of a
Speaker 11: radio device and appliance or a radio set.
Speaker 8: Used to use the word set a lot.
Speaker 11: And if you went to the movies, you would get
Speaker 11: to see something that you couldn't really see on TV
Speaker 11: that easily, unless it was around for a couple of years,
Speaker 11: and then it would be the ABC movie of the week,
Speaker 11: and it was some old movie that you saw years ago,
Speaker 11: but now it's on television. It was all separate. And
Speaker 11: here as we begin, I believe the second quarter of
Speaker 11: the twenty first century to believe how far in the
Speaker 11: future we are. My goodness, everything blends into everything else.
Speaker 11: So I consider any outlet, if you're primarily a news organization,
Speaker 11: if you're primarily a film company, or primarily a television station,
Speaker 11: or primarily a radio station, or a radio show or
Speaker 11: a podcast or whatever you are, you are a media
Speaker 11: station because you're only limiting yourself to that one dimension,
Speaker 11: which is a throwback to the twentieth century by calling
Speaker 11: yourself we're a radio station, or we're a news organization
Speaker 11: or newspaper. The newspaper could be doing the evening news
Speaker 11: on video. The radio station could be putting out a
Speaker 11: news service. There's no natural boundary anymore between these platforms.
Speaker 11: And that's what I meant by the emergence of the
Speaker 11: media station. It's kind of a mentality at this point
Speaker 11: of just which direction and what venues you want to
Speaker 11: pursue as a media person or a media company.
Speaker 4: If you were a media company and you were going
Speaker 4: to buy or you were buying or creating a media outlet,
Speaker 4: let's say you had radio aspirations. I mean, you would
Speaker 4: have to build almost the set now, even if you had,
Speaker 4: you know, even like an ABC in New York or
Speaker 4: even some of the smaller stations across the country, if
Speaker 4: you were just starting out. If I were doing it,
Speaker 4: I would build I would build a set almost so
Speaker 4: that my talk show hosts could with a flip of
Speaker 4: a switch could go on all of these platforms and
Speaker 4: make it a lot easier, because I tell you, it
Speaker 4: could get a little complicated trying to upload all this stuff,
Speaker 4: and you know you're working on a million different media platforms,
Speaker 4: whether it's X or Instagram or Getter or whatever.
Speaker 5: And I don't know. I'm of the.
Speaker 4: Old I guess cloth Michael is that it's not that
Speaker 4: it's too much. But I enjoyed the appointment listening. I
Speaker 4: liked it when the radio station was the only outlet
Speaker 4: for it. I know those days are long gone, but
Speaker 4: maybe I'm a dinosaur, But I don't know.
Speaker 5: What do you think is that part of this equation?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 5: You have to be all encompassing, right, I.
Speaker 11: Don't think you have to be anything. I think it
Speaker 11: could be what you want to be as long as
Speaker 11: you're really good at it, and in ratio to how
Speaker 11: good you are at it will be determining how successful
Speaker 11: you are at it. So if you're just mediocre and
Speaker 11: not that great, well, yeah, be everywhere. So more people
Speaker 11: might you know who happen to like what you do
Speaker 11: will check you out.
Speaker 8: But if you're really really good.
Speaker 11: People will seek that special or here's a word, the specificity.
Speaker 11: I wasn't sure i'd be able to say it, the
Speaker 11: specificity of your platform. What do you mean, Lee, What
Speaker 11: do you mean when you say.
Speaker 8: Build a set?
Speaker 11: What do you have in mind when you're talking about
Speaker 11: those terms to build a set?
Speaker 5: I appreciate you asking me that.
Speaker 4: So our engineer was in here the other day, and
Speaker 4: the owner was in here the other day, and the
Speaker 4: setup here I have in the studio. We've got all
Speaker 4: the modern stuff, but it's really not conducive to the
Speaker 4: video angle of it. Right. So, you know, we were
Speaker 4: talking about how to build out the best let's say
Speaker 4: format for a camera to be in front, a camera
Speaker 4: for my guess, the microphone in the right spot, the
Speaker 4: backdrop to be in the right spot, all of that,
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, it doesn't take a tremendous
Speaker 4: amount of money necessarily to do it, but I think
Speaker 4: you have to think it out and plan it out.
Speaker 4: Where you know, the old days it was a radio studio,
Speaker 4: it was you know, you were behind a microphone behind
Speaker 4: a console and that was it.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's got I think it's just got
Speaker 5: to be a little different.
Speaker 4: If I were starting a media outlet and a radio
Speaker 4: station That's how I would do it, because you've got
Speaker 4: to You've got to.
Speaker 5: Hit all the avenues.
Speaker 4: I know you say, if you've got talent, you don't
Speaker 4: necessarily have to, and I think you're right, But I
Speaker 4: mean people in particularly younger people, are searching it out
Speaker 4: on all of these different Internet platforms.
Speaker 8: That's true.
Speaker 11: And I'm thinking as you're saying that, that we're at
Speaker 11: a time now where.
Speaker 8: You don't have to build a set.
Speaker 11: You don't have to like, I'm in a real studio here,
Speaker 11: I have picture over there, you left it right. Gets
Speaker 11: crazy when you see screens of Rembrandt, one of my
Speaker 11: favorite artists. We have the Talker's logo. We have some
Speaker 11: keyboards we have over on under Rembrandt. You may see
Speaker 11: a couple of headphones and stuff. Know how much is
Speaker 11: on your screen. But to behind me in that direction
Speaker 11: is a classic poster from the Fillmore East back in
Speaker 11: the days of album rock. And we changed things around
Speaker 11: a lot, but those are real things. I'm in a
Speaker 11: real physical place. But if you're really up to speed
Speaker 11: with the technology today, you don't have to have that.
Speaker 11: I could just have a blue screen behind me, and
Speaker 11: with AI and with computer generated graphics, I could have
Speaker 11: I could be on water skis, I could be being
Speaker 11: chased by dinosaurs, any.
Speaker 8: Possible thing you could imagine.
Speaker 11: I think that we went through the paradigm shift lee
Speaker 11: back during COVID, when suddenly everybody was broadcasting from their homes.
Speaker 11: And this was even happening in places like CNN and Fox.
Speaker 11: They would never let anybody go on a cell phone
Speaker 11: an iPhone from their home. They would they send a
Speaker 11: limousine to you and drive through a blizzard for six
Speaker 11: minutes on screen.
Speaker 8: In those days. But then when.
Speaker 11: COVID came, people started broadcasting from home. So what did
Speaker 11: most of them do? Because I was tracking all of this,
Speaker 11: I saw this as a major paradigm shift. Most of
Speaker 11: them would find their bookshelf and you still see it today,
Speaker 11: and people will sit in front of their bookcase. It
Speaker 11: makes you look like your studio, like a law office
Speaker 11: where they have the legal library.
Speaker 8: None of them use it anymore. It's their fish And.
Speaker 5: Then right, so you're right, you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Right now you would think like eighty percent of the
Speaker 4: backdrops that you see are books that people never read. Right,
Speaker 4: So that's probably the case.
Speaker 11: One of the hobbies now is people checking out. Let's
Speaker 11: see what books he's reading now.
Speaker 5: I guess for my.
Speaker 4: Statement was born from the fact that the studio that
Speaker 4: I'm in right now is an old fashioned radio studio
Speaker 4: that we're trying we try to retrofit to add the
Speaker 4: video component, and there's just not enough space for certain things.
Speaker 4: So I would think that if I were starting from scratch,
Speaker 4: I would make it so that it is you know,
Speaker 4: it is easy to use kind of a situation.
Speaker 11: So that American flag is real flag flying outside your window.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful day behind me, Michael, what do you
Speaker 4: mean you're in a regular radio sea where'd this plan.
Speaker 8: To come from?
Speaker 4: Michael Harrison talkers. Whenever I get a chance to track
Speaker 4: him down and talk. I love it because I am,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm an old school radio junkie. I just
Speaker 4: got into my veins when I was in my mid twenties,
Speaker 4: and here I am, all these years later, still wanting
Speaker 4: to talk about it, still loving to talk about it
Speaker 4: with somebody as influential and entertaining and smart as as
Speaker 4: Michael Harrison.
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Speaker 4: I'll ask you one more media, Can you stick around
Speaker 4: for a second break? If I can stick.
Speaker 8: Around, but I do want to go ahead ask me
Speaker 8: the question.
Speaker 11: Oh, go ahead, what Jeff Well I mean when you
Speaker 11: talk about being an old school radio guy, you're touching
Speaker 11: upon the very issue that radio is facing, the challenge
Speaker 11: it faces here at this point I call it in
Speaker 11: the future, because we're sort of like immigrants from the
Speaker 11: twentieth century.
Speaker 4: We all are.
Speaker 11: Most of the people listening to this broadcast, are viewing
Speaker 11: this broadcast are people who came on this planet before
Speaker 11: the year two thousand. Statistically that's true or shortly thereafter.
Speaker 11: And radio faces the challenge of maintaining its esthetic, maintaining
Speaker 11: its magic, it's specialness which is born of being on
Speaker 11: a radio station, transmitter, live, local, and spontaneous.
Speaker 8: All of that is what makes radio great.
Speaker 11: The challenges to maintain that esthetic, we'll call it an
Speaker 11: aesthetic here in the twenty first century, when we have
Speaker 11: podcasting and we have online broadcasting, and we have screens
Speaker 11: as well as the theater of the mind, and to
Speaker 11: do it effectively so as not to fall behind, but
Speaker 11: in the same process not to lose that magic and
Speaker 11: not become just another utilitarian source of records or source
Speaker 11: of one talk show after another that have no connection
Speaker 11: to each other and are not in real time. So
Speaker 11: that's the real issue that we face in this industry
Speaker 11: at this time. That is the challenge to maintain the
Speaker 11: magic of the twentieth century, but the purpose and the
Speaker 11: technology of the twenty first century.
Speaker 8: In radio particularly, I agree.
Speaker 4: But there was a romanticness about radio that unfortunately, when
Speaker 4: video came in, it killed a certain aspect of that
Speaker 4: romanticism because you didn't know what the guy looked like
Speaker 4: who's talking to you. You didn't know what the female
Speaker 4: DJ on the rock station looked like. You might get
Speaker 4: a glimpse of verretta remote if you decided to go
Speaker 4: to that event or.
Speaker 9: What have you.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, it was all theater of
Speaker 4: the mind, and I think that's what made radio a
Speaker 4: super special, super intimate and very personable.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it's better or worse than it
Speaker 5: is now. I just think it's it's different.
Speaker 8: That mystery was a big deal.
Speaker 11: I know when I was a kid and the local
Speaker 11: DJ would come to the sockhop at the gymnasium, most
Speaker 11: of the kids were very disappointed when they saw that
Speaker 11: it was a nerd as opposed to the cool, cool
Speaker 11: cat they.
Speaker 1: Heard on the air.
Speaker 5: You know, hey, baby, welcome to the Cool Cat Show.
Speaker 8: And then cool Cat shows up and he's goofball.
Speaker 5: Usually in need of a shower too, right.
Speaker 8: You know the joke you have a face for radio.
Speaker 8: It comes from that. So yeah, the mystery, But now
Speaker 8: it's not a mystery. Everybody knows what everybody looks like.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 11: Everybody has a show. The audience has an audiences. That's
Speaker 11: a part of the thing that for people who've been
Speaker 11: through the years of being in broadcasting, this era is
Speaker 11: remarkable inasmuch as the audience has an audience and the
Speaker 11: whole inter changeable way in which it goes, the two
Speaker 11: way street that media has become, plays a role in
Speaker 11: how it is ultimately perceived.
Speaker 4: And one other thing, I mean, I know there was
Speaker 4: a time in radio where the size of the stick,
Speaker 4: and that's a radio lingo. I'm not making any pornographic
Speaker 4: scenario of the radio stick size. That man, everything, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know you're fifty thousand flamethrower.
Speaker 5: That's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: But now literally, with the Internet, you can carry a
Speaker 4: station from if you're if I'm living in Connecticut, from Seattle,
Speaker 4: if you like it, you can listen to it.
Speaker 11: There are no small sticks in this world. I mean,
Speaker 11: you can go on the smallest website of the smallest
Speaker 11: podcast and ruin your life in one slip of the tongue.
Speaker 11: You know, nothing is hidden from potentially being distributed everywhere
Speaker 11: in the world.
Speaker 8: That's a whole different paradigm as well.
Speaker 11: Think about it, because I used to be for the
Speaker 11: folks at home who don't know what stick is. Stick
Speaker 11: is a term from the twentieth century and broadcasting to
Speaker 11: indicate the standard radio station, the tower, the transmitter, the studio,
Speaker 11: and the license. And the tower gave rise to the
Speaker 11: word stick. So we still sometimes call them a stick.
Speaker 11: It's a dying phrase, but it's still it's a good phrase.
Speaker 11: I love the phrase stick beat. I wrote an article
Speaker 11: what's called the stick and the stick and the relationship
Speaker 11: betwe inform and content the radio station as well as
Speaker 11: the programming. The programming is the stick, the technology and
Speaker 11: the might of the radio station the stick. So you're
Speaker 11: talking my language, kid.
Speaker 4: Michael Harrison is with us Talkers. So Michael, we got
Speaker 4: to tell a quick break here in a second. But
Speaker 4: I know you do a regular podcast, and you know
Speaker 4: Wayne's listeners across the country.
Speaker 5: I'm sure would love to get a chance to hear that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's open to everyone or if
Speaker 4: that's more an industry thing, but is there a place
Speaker 4: folks can go to find that On a regular basis?
Speaker 11: People can go to YouTube and the show is called
Speaker 11: Up Close, Far Out with Michael Harrison. And when you
Speaker 11: get to YouTube, it's at Talkers Media. At Talkers Media,
Speaker 11: the program it's basically industry oriented and my show is
Speaker 11: on there.
Speaker 8: We have you on there.
Speaker 11: As a matter of fact, your recent little address that
Speaker 11: you gave at the Talkers conference is posted. We have
Speaker 11: just about ninety five percent of the recent Talkers twenty
Speaker 11: twenty six conference up there on video, so people can
Speaker 11: attend that. And talkers dot com is our address. There's
Speaker 11: no cost. It's basically for people in the industry. But
Speaker 11: as I said before, everybody's in show business nowadays, so
Speaker 11: listeners do enjoy coming to our website talkers dot com.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you a quick break. We've got Michael
Speaker 5: Harrison from Talkers. I'm going to hold them over and
Speaker 5: keep them for another break.
Speaker 4: Is I always enjoy talking to him, and he doesn't
Speaker 4: know just radio or media or any just that he
Speaker 4: knows a lot about a lot. So we're going to
Speaker 4: get to some of the things happening in the political
Speaker 4: world and talk a little bit about what's happening here
Speaker 4: in the United State.
Speaker 5: It's the two fifty birthday, all of that, what's.
Speaker 4: Going on around the world with our good pal Michael Harrison.
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Speaker 5: My name is Lee Elsie.
Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure to fill in for Wayne Allen Root.
Speaker 4: The Great Michael Harrison is with us Talkers Magazine, one
Speaker 4: of our favorite people to bring on. Always entertaining and
Speaker 4: fun to go down talk you know, talk radio and
Speaker 4: media alley to chat about things. But I want to
Speaker 4: ask you, Michael about two fifty America's birthday just came
Speaker 4: and when it was a great celebration.
Speaker 5: But you know, I've been talking about this a lot,
Speaker 5: and I get your opinion on this.
Speaker 4: So one of my favorite lines from the declaration is,
Speaker 4: we pledge our lives, are fortune, and our sacred honor
Speaker 4: to this experiment. Right. I mean they didn't say it
Speaker 4: like that, but not to this experiment, But that's what
Speaker 4: they pledged. They pledged their lives, their fortune, their sacred honor.
Speaker 4: Many of them died broke, many of them, you know,
Speaker 4: died with nothing, many of them were killed by their enemies.
Speaker 4: But the thing that they all had was they had
Speaker 4: a sacred honor. And you know, I feel like what's
Speaker 4: wrong with this country right now is born out of
Speaker 4: the idea that we have politicians who do not adhere
Speaker 4: to the sacred honor. Part of that they don't put
Speaker 4: the country first. These men they put the country first.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, they had their warts, but they
Speaker 5: believed in this experiment.
Speaker 4: They believed that these ragtag bunch of revolutionaries was going
Speaker 4: to beat the great Maybe I don't know if they
Speaker 4: believe it, but they wanted to believe that they were
Speaker 4: going to beat the greatest military night on earth, and
Speaker 4: they did, And I think it's remarkable.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. Well.
Speaker 11: I think you put it very very well. He had
Speaker 11: said they eventually died, but none of them died by
Speaker 11: a rope hanging around their neck as a result of
Speaker 11: losing the revolution and facing uncertain death at the hands
Speaker 11: of King George. Can you imagine in today's world politicians
Speaker 11: signing a document at which their life is at stake
Speaker 11: based upon a ragtag amateur army in a country that
Speaker 11: was very divided on whether the war was even popular
Speaker 11: the Revolutionary War was very controversial here in the colonies,
Speaker 11: and signing their names to it that if in fact
Speaker 11: they didn't win, they would certainly die. You talk about
Speaker 11: sacred honor, you talk about courage, guts, commitment, and nobility.
Speaker 11: I can't think of anybody in this country today that
Speaker 11: would do that. Certainly people in politics. You know, we
Speaker 11: have now men and women in politics. When you said
Speaker 11: before you know these men and I'm saying, yeah, they
Speaker 11: were all men actually, So that is a remarkable and
Speaker 11: I use the word paradigm I think twice. I try
Speaker 11: not to use the same words too many times in
Speaker 11: one sitting. But that was a very different paradigm in
Speaker 11: terms of ethics and principles. You know, we tend to
Speaker 11: think that, you know, our interpretation of good and evil
Speaker 11: are quite clear cut and very very connected to the
Speaker 11: ethics of this period we live in. But there have
Speaker 11: been other periods of time, and certainly even within the
Speaker 11: relatively short history of America, when you look back at
Speaker 11: the whole course of the human condition, there have been
Speaker 11: times in America when people would run off to join
Speaker 11: the army because our nation is under attack. They didn't
Speaker 11: talk about how it impacted the stock market, or well,
Speaker 11: you know, how much will an egg cost us? It
Speaker 11: was a very different psychology of what it was to
Speaker 11: be free, what it was to engage in liberty, and.
Speaker 8: What it was to be an American.
Speaker 11: So I did a lot of thinking, as I know
Speaker 11: you did, and many of our colleagues have this two
Speaker 11: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Declaration
Speaker 11: of Independence, as to what these things really mean. Now,
Speaker 11: you touched upon it very well in setting up the question.
Speaker 11: So I just say, yeah, it's pretty amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 11: How many options we have as human beings in terms
Speaker 11: of building our own personal and collective principles.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up running off to War. So
Speaker 4: on Friday of last week, on the eve of the
Speaker 4: fourth of July, Thursday, midnight into Friday, I did seventeen
Speaker 4: hours and seventy six continuous minutes of radio. Right, I
Speaker 4: did it for We went on at midnight, and we
Speaker 4: signed off at six sixteen pm, and I brought on
Speaker 4: a bunch of guests, and some of the guests told
Speaker 4: stories about either their grandparents or their dying. They had
Speaker 4: still people in their family still alive, couldn't get to
Speaker 4: the studio, but still alive that served in World War Two.
Speaker 4: And as you just so you know, amazingly pointed out,
Speaker 4: these men they lied about how old they were so
Speaker 4: that they could sign up.
Speaker 5: I mean, think about that.
Speaker 4: They lied.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, they lied so that they could get in.
Speaker 11: If some of them were fifteen, sixteen years old. Histories
Speaker 11: full of stories like that, with the soldiers on the
Speaker 11: battlefield were children, and even if they're eighteen or nineteen, frankly,
Speaker 11: there's still children. So yeah, gosh, you know, Lee, it's
Speaker 11: so important for people to have an understanding of history,
Speaker 11: to really be able to engage in intelligent voting, to
Speaker 11: be able to engage in running a complicated entity, a
Speaker 11: democracy and a republic that is the United States of
Speaker 11: America here in twenty twenty six. If you, I think
Speaker 11: ignorance and idiocy and downright stupidity are far more dangerous
Speaker 11: than many of the boogeymen that we talk about today.
Speaker 11: No matter whether you're on the left or the right
Speaker 11: about what's ruining our country, I think the biggest danger
Speaker 11: to our freedom and to our progress, and to our
Speaker 11: standing in the world and to the youth, to humanity
Speaker 11: standing in the universe is stupidity, ignorance, you see, That's
Speaker 11: what I think.
Speaker 4: But if we could tap in just to a fraction
Speaker 4: of what the founders possess, that idea of putting the
Speaker 4: country first, self last, that set is you know what
Speaker 4: birth this great experiment, And if we even could just
Speaker 4: get a little bit of that, put those folks in
Speaker 4: some places where you could out of just sheer leadership
Speaker 4: and show that that that is a way that can
Speaker 4: change everything. Because we talk about now, how do we
Speaker 4: change it, how do we you know, fix the ultra
Speaker 4: poor as compared to the ultra rich. And how do
Speaker 4: we talk about the partisanship and the divide and the
Speaker 4: anger and the hatred towards this group and that group.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's all born out of the fact
Speaker 4: that people are areself so self interested now and so
Speaker 4: self centered in their own in their own advancement, that
Speaker 4: they forget.
Speaker 5: In particularly when they get into politics. They forget why
Speaker 5: they they are supposed to get into politics.
Speaker 4: They're supposed to get into politics to be leaders, civic leaders,
Speaker 4: and make the community a better place.
Speaker 11: It's a vicious cycle the media and the politicians, and
Speaker 11: this happens on both sides, folks. I try to remain nonpartisan.
Speaker 11: I'm very partisan when it comes to supporting the First Amendment,
Speaker 11: and and that's as far as it goes. I'm all
Speaker 11: for the free marketplace of ideas. But a lot of
Speaker 11: what you're talking about, Lee comes from the tendency these
Speaker 11: days of politicians and media. The media is supposed to
Speaker 11: be the protector of the people from the politicians and
Speaker 11: from the government. The politicians and the media tend to
Speaker 11: play specifically to the selfish concerns of the population, and
Speaker 11: that's why they tear us apart. That's why people live
Speaker 11: in echo chambers, and that's why we have the kind
Speaker 11: of tension and violence that we're experiencing today.
Speaker 4: No, you think some of these big media outlets have
Speaker 4: failed the public grotesquely.
Speaker 11: I do.
Speaker 4: I think you look at like you said, they cater
Speaker 4: to their listeners. I get it, there's a certain sense
Speaker 4: of it. You've got to make money otherwise you can't
Speaker 4: stay on the air. But when you're not telling the
Speaker 4: entire truth, and you are, you are sort of parsing
Speaker 4: it out in a way that makes your listener or
Speaker 4: your viewers happy. I think that's a huge disservice. That's
Speaker 4: not why the media folks signed up.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 5: I do my best never to do that, Michael, but
Speaker 5: I know that there are people out there that do.
Speaker 5: And I don't like it.
Speaker 11: If making money is the primary criteria for serving the public,
Speaker 11: that you only serve the public whether you're a government,
Speaker 11: whether you're a business, whether you're an individual, based upon
Speaker 11: how good a business it is, then that is a
Speaker 11: very very terrible rebuke of capitalism and free enterprise.
Speaker 8: It means that they don't work. So I worry about
Speaker 8: that all the time.
Speaker 11: Free enterprise and capitalism without social responsibility is just as
Speaker 11: deadly as all these other forms of government that we
Speaker 11: supposedly are so fearful of, will become the very thing
Speaker 11: we're afraid of.
Speaker 5: I know, what would you tell you.
Speaker 4: Let's say you're advising somebody who's you know, in this
Speaker 4: business and struggling. You know, they have to cover politics,
Speaker 4: maybe they're a talk show host or or what, and
Speaker 4: you have to try to advise them on how not
Speaker 4: to alienate half their audience. How what would you tell them?
Speaker 11: I would well, if I were doing it the way
Speaker 11: it's being done, it's being told you must alienate.
Speaker 8: The whole game is based on alienating.
Speaker 10: Half your audience.
Speaker 11: There was once a time when people didn't, you know,
Speaker 11: never talk politics, religion or something.
Speaker 8: I didn't do it in the right order.
Speaker 11: I think it was don't talk politics, don't talk sports,
Speaker 11: and don't talk religion.
Speaker 8: I don't know, but get you get the point. I
Speaker 8: believe that.
Speaker 11: You've got to do business, and you've got to protect yourself.
Speaker 11: You've got to create income, you've got to be able
Speaker 11: to face reality. But I think that, as I said before,
Speaker 11: I would advise anybody that being good, that's a nice generalization,
Speaker 11: being good is one of the tenets of successful business
Speaker 11: that if you if you try to a certain degree
Speaker 11: to be honest, and you try to a certain degree
Speaker 11: to make your customer, your audience, your target participant better off,
Speaker 11: that actually will make you money. I think people overlook
Speaker 11: that I've tried to I tried to run my business
Speaker 11: and businesses with that principle. I can't say whether I'm succeeding.
Speaker 11: I leave it to guys like you to tell me.
Speaker 8: But the fact is, I think that doing a good
Speaker 8: job for the people that consume your product is a
Speaker 8: way to make money.
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Speaker 11: But I do think going back to the conversation we
Speaker 11: had a few minutes ago about the founding fathers and
Speaker 11: the principles of America, and you know, we hold these
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Speaker 11: What we claim to do is to strive toward improvement.
Speaker 11: We claim to strive toward ultimately like a north Star perfection,
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Speaker 11: Martin Luther King said that to a good place.
Speaker 4: Michael Harrison is his name. Talker's Magazine is his baby.
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Speaker 4: he's reshaped the industry in an incredible way. Any general
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Speaker 4: any thoughts on what we're going to witness in the
Speaker 4: midterms here we're going to see a flip floppy or
Speaker 4: what do you think is happening.
Speaker 11: I think it's a good chance that we're going to
Speaker 11: see a flip flop. That's sort of historic anyway, and
Speaker 11: the nature of the combatants, if you will, kind of
Speaker 11: if you step back and don't buy into the bubble
Speaker 11: of whatever side you're on, there's a good chance that
Speaker 11: there'll be a flip flop. But then again, you'd never know.
Speaker 11: I think it's going to be very interesting, exciting, and
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Speaker 4: I tell you the I got three more ships were
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Speaker 4: but it feels like we're in a weird quagmire. And
Speaker 4: and I don't know, you know, we had at least
Speaker 4: a couple of days where things looked great and now
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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know what his next move
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Speaker 8: I hope he has an idea of what his next movie.
Speaker 5: That would be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8: That would be very redsturing.
Speaker 4: All right, Michael Harrison, Talkers. I thank you for sticking
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Speaker 5: I appreciate your brother, I really do. I thank you
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Speaker 4: Talk again, very very soon Michael Harrison from Talkers.
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Speaker 9: Welcome back. This is Warzone Live. We're the official podcast
Speaker 9: to The Gateway Pundit. And oh do we have a
Speaker 9: great guest for you today. Because still in the end,
Speaker 9: illegal immigration and boys and girls schools, and transgender this
Speaker 9: and transgender.
Speaker 3: That, the open border.
Speaker 9: There's a million issues in the world, but to me,
Speaker 9: the number one issue is making money. I'm like trump Man,
Speaker 9: making money's in my DNA. Making money is in my blood.
Speaker 9: I'm always looking for ways to make more money in
Speaker 9: the end, that makes an awful lot of problems go
Speaker 9: away for the nation and for the middle class and
Speaker 9: for the people of this country. Making money is our
Speaker 9: gott to be our number one goal Economy Jobs GDP.
Speaker 9: That's what really met. So I got a great guest
Speaker 9: for you to talk about it, Lost Soldier. Oil and
Speaker 9: Gas has been the sponsor of this show for almost
Speaker 9: a year now. Do you realize it's been about a
Speaker 9: year that they've been the sponsor of my podcast, my
Speaker 9: national radio show, my national TV show on Real America's
Speaker 9: Voice TV network. And it's really an amazing property. It
Speaker 9: took forty years to piece together. It is forty thousand
Speaker 9: acre giant gas discovery, estimated to contain up to six
Speaker 9: trillion cubic feet of gas, making one of the largest
Speaker 9: natural gas discoveries in the Rocky Mounty region Rocky Mountain region,
Speaker 9: excuse me, in the last thirty years. And they have
Speaker 9: a management forecast projecting just the first twenty five wells
Speaker 9: to produce four hundred million cubic feet per day of
Speaker 9: natural gas and by twenty thirty five, targeted production of
Speaker 9: over a billion cubic feet a day.
Speaker 3: An amazing project.
Speaker 9: And I invested in this project not once but twice
Speaker 9: last year, ten to invest a third.
Speaker 2: Time this year.
Speaker 3: And I want to introduce you to the project.
Speaker 9: And I want to introduce you to the guy who
Speaker 9: is the CEO and the chairman of the board who
Speaker 9: invented this project. Mark Brunner, CEO of Lost Soldier.
Speaker 5: Oil and Gas.
Speaker 9: The website, by the way, Lost Soldier dot com, Lost
Speaker 9: Soldier dot Com.
Speaker 3: Mark, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9: Haven't had John in quite a while. You've been running
Speaker 9: around the world raising money. You've been in Europe, You've
Speaker 9: been in Switzerland, You've been in Saudi Arabia. You're all
Speaker 9: over the world.
Speaker 3: You're an amazing guy.
Speaker 9: You're always traveling, You're always raising money, You're always running
Speaker 9: your company.
Speaker 3: You are a busy man like me. It's hard to
Speaker 3: nail you down. So it's great to have you back
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 9: So wonderful to be with you again. Away and good
Speaker 9: to see you all right. So you're a second generation
Speaker 9: oil and gas man. You're actually a second generation oil
Speaker 9: and gas legend. Your previous public companies, Pennaco Energy, produced
Speaker 9: about one hundred to one for every dollar invested investors
Speaker 9: and stockholders made one hundred dollars an Ultra petroleum spectacular
Speaker 9: return for investors. That one was a thousand to one.
Speaker 9: For every dollar invested, people got back a thousand. It
Speaker 9: was one of the biggest stocks of the entire decade
Speaker 9: of I think it was the nineties, right, it was
Speaker 9: the go go nineties. That stock was one of the
Speaker 9: highest flyers on Wall Street. So Lost Soldier is an amazing,
Speaker 9: amazing project. But tell people why it's so amazing.
Speaker 10: Why.
Speaker 9: I guess you think it's even bigger, biggest of your
Speaker 9: career that would make it bigger than Pennico or Ultra Petroleum.
Speaker 9: Ultra Petroleum a thousand to one return on investment, and
Speaker 9: you say this is the biggest of your career.
Speaker 10: What do you base that on?
Speaker 15: Well, And when I compare it with Ultra petroleum, it
Speaker 15: has a sequence of regionally pervasive sands where we can
Speaker 15: see based on the seismic interpretation, we can drill up
Speaker 15: to five hundred horizontal wells so far that we could see.
Speaker 15: And the other wonderful thing is is that no one
Speaker 15: can drill this for fifty years. We've known where all
Speaker 15: the basins are for fifty years. All of them have
Speaker 15: been drilled as far as I know, except this one,
Speaker 15: because there's a uranium mine out here that was whenever
Speaker 15: Three Mile Island melted down in the early eighties, they
Speaker 15: started reclamating this mine. Kennicott did three years ago. They
Speaker 15: finished the reclamation. I got a call, I drilled it,
Speaker 15: and as they say, the rest is history. Certainly the
Speaker 15: largest gas field I've ever found right now, if you
Speaker 15: compare it with some of the other basins, there's thousands
Speaker 15: of feet of layer cake type regionally pervasive over pressure sands.
Speaker 10: It's very much like the Hainesville and the Utica.
Speaker 15: If any of you've heard of those plays, you've probably
Speaker 15: heard of a guy named Jerry Jones and on the
Speaker 15: Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 10: That's like number one play.
Speaker 15: Now, Okay, the Western Haysville, and I would encourage everyone
Speaker 15: to compare what we have with the Western Hayesville, because
Speaker 15: I think it certainly is comparable. The difference here is
Speaker 15: we're the only operator. No one else is in here
Speaker 15: is just us. We made the discovery. We have legacy
Speaker 15: infrastructure that is on this slast rows. We can tie
Speaker 15: into all that legacy infrastructure. Well, we're laying a five
Speaker 15: mile line to start producing gas this year. And you know,
Speaker 15: the plan is when we finished this private placement, to
Speaker 15: be producing about four hundred and five hundred million qb
Speaker 15: feet today three hundred million a year in cash flow
Speaker 15: within thirty six months. And then we plan to build
Speaker 15: a forty two to forty six line fifty miles away
Speaker 15: to the Trading Club one center about ten times that.
Speaker 15: There's another guy named Warren Buffett that's looping on that line.
Speaker 10: That going out to California. So you know, as you
Speaker 10: all know, he's no fool.
Speaker 15: So he's going to send all his gas out to
Speaker 15: a Pacific Corp in the West Coast, so we hope
Speaker 15: to be able to do that too.
Speaker 10: Anyway, that's pretty.
Speaker 9: Much a summary way, So give me some some new updates,
Speaker 9: because remember I'm one of your investors. I invested not
Speaker 9: once but twice last year, very big healthy investments by
Speaker 9: the way, from Wayne Root, and I plan to investing
Speaker 9: in this year. What's happened between the last time we
Speaker 9: spoke on TV, which was probably six months ago? Though
Speaker 9: you've had your president of your company and your COO
Speaker 9: talking to me on TV as well, but you were
Speaker 9: busy traveling. Give us some updates from last year, what
Speaker 9: exciting things have happened, and tell me what will happen.
Speaker 3: This year, in the year twenty twenty six.
Speaker 15: Well, I think, you know, one of the things that
Speaker 15: we've done is that you're always looking for permits to drill.
Speaker 15: You're always looking for right of ways and other things
Speaker 15: in order to be able to lay the pipelines. All
Speaker 15: this is completed. It's finished, okay, and so we're going
Speaker 15: to start building this pipeline sometime in July, when what
Speaker 15: we call the winter STIPs are off and we can
Speaker 15: get in here and lay that pipeline. We think it'll
Speaker 15: take you know, forty five or sixty days to finish
Speaker 15: the pipeline. Then we'll be producing game. So that's going
Speaker 15: to happen this year. We're very excited about that. The
Speaker 15: other thing that I think is important is that we
Speaker 15: have a deal with the Fed federal government.
Speaker 10: All the leases that we have, they're federal and state leases.
Speaker 15: They've been put into what we call a federal unit,
Speaker 15: which means that it's all those different leases we had,
Speaker 15: like fifty six of them, they're one lease.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 15: It means that we can orderly develop this gas field
Speaker 15: with the cooperation of the federal government. They've stamped a
Speaker 15: deposit commercial so all those things have happened, and yeah,
Speaker 15: we think we're going to be able to do that.
Speaker 15: We're hoping to be able to drill some of the
Speaker 15: deep over pressured horizontals this year at least one, maybe
Speaker 15: two of those. We were anticipating fifty million a day plus. Wells,
Speaker 15: they're going to be expensive, you know, they're twenty to
Speaker 15: thirty million dollars apiece.
Speaker 10: But when you're producing those.
Speaker 15: Kind of rates, they pay out very quickly and so
Speaker 15: you know, possibly within a year, so something.
Speaker 10: You know, the field next to us, Lost Soldier Field,
Speaker 10: which I named my company after that field.
Speaker 15: Has been producing for over one hundred years, produced four
Speaker 15: hundred and fifty million barrels still in US three thousand,
Speaker 15: five hundred barrels a day. And so some of the
Speaker 15: deeper stuff that we're looking for, and well we think
Speaker 15: we'll find we'll find some of.
Speaker 10: Those this year as well. So very exciting times for us.
Speaker 10: And by the way, we also drill more. We're not
Speaker 10: drilling for.
Speaker 15: Our sales in Bridge, which transports about thirty percent of
Speaker 15: the natural gas in the United States, and actually we're
Speaker 15: entering into a twenty three oil contract with them.
Speaker 10: I think that would speak very highly of.
Speaker 15: Our drilling people and their abilities, and you know, we're
Speaker 15: very excited about that relationship with them as well.
Speaker 10: So we're going to be having revenue.
Speaker 15: Out of our drilling company, out of our pipeline company,
Speaker 15: out of our working interests, and those people don't invest that,
Speaker 15: we'll also enjoy a package of overriding royalty.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 9: So yeah, and don't forget. The thing that got me was,
Speaker 9: you know, I have seen a lot of potential in
Speaker 9: my life. I think this is the most potential I've
Speaker 9: ever seen. But potential is one thing that doesn't mean
Speaker 9: you ever deliver. You have a track record that's amazing.
Speaker 9: That's great, Pentaco Ultra Petroleum very impressive. That was a
Speaker 9: decision pusher for me. And then, of course what else
Speaker 9: can you invest in? Like if I put one hundred
Speaker 9: thousand dollars into stocks and those stocks happen to go down,
Speaker 9: I would get no tax break. It would do nothing
Speaker 9: for me until the day they went back up. You
Speaker 9: get a three thousand dollars deduction on stock losses in
Speaker 9: a given year, but with oil and gas, it's the
Speaker 9: most generous tax deduction you can ever get.
Speaker 3: It's seventy percent right off the first year you invest.
Speaker 9: So if I put one hundred thousand in, I get
Speaker 9: a seventy thousand dollars tax deduction on my tax return
Speaker 9: in the first year, and the other thirty over the
Speaker 9: next I think three years, right, So that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 10: There's been a change.
Speaker 15: It's one hundred percent now, not seventy percent really under
Speaker 15: the tax under the Trump tax bills.
Speaker 9: But that's for this year coming up twenty ten, Yes,
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five, because I have to go.
Speaker 10: By the old rules, but I assume yeah.
Speaker 15: I think the other thing too, is that the viewers
Speaker 15: need to realize that we don't have to process any
Speaker 15: of this. This is ninety three percent methane h four,
Speaker 15: so no processing. We don't have to be on any plants.
Speaker 15: When we put into the pipeline, it can go directly
Speaker 15: into homes. We have people contaking us about putting in
Speaker 15: data centers. There's a lot of options here that we're
Speaker 15: going to be looking at, Wayne, So we'll give you
Speaker 15: updated asse things happen this year, all right, Data.
Speaker 3: Centers would seem to be the way to go. That's
Speaker 3: the only one talks about now is data centers and
Speaker 3: how much they use so much energy? Well, you've got
Speaker 3: the energy for them, so it would seem like would
Speaker 3: be a profit center.
Speaker 9: Last thing for accredited investors who want to learn more
Speaker 9: and get involved, they go to Loss Soldier dot com
Speaker 9: and then what happens Someone.
Speaker 3: Gets back to them.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll get back to them.
Speaker 15: We give them the information so they can make says
Speaker 15: they got access all the information.
Speaker 10: We'll answer their questions.
Speaker 15: And you know, we look at all our investors as
Speaker 15: a family, if they ever been the Lost Soldier families,
Speaker 15: like what we just need.
Speaker 3: To say, Well, with my big investment, I'd better be
Speaker 3: a good family member.
Speaker 10: I better be loved.
Speaker 1: Better be loved.
Speaker 5: Mark, We'll let you move in.
Speaker 10: We'll let you move in.
Speaker 9: Second home and wyoming Lost Soldier dot com. Lost Soldier
Speaker 9: dot com. Go there, give me your contact information.
Speaker 3: They'll get right back to you and show you how
Speaker 3: you can be involved.
Speaker 9: It's the right project, right time, the right president, the
Speaker 9: right energy secretary, the right CEO. Mark Bruner with an
Speaker 9: incredible spectacular past record. Thank you, Mark, Loss Soldier dot com. Hi,
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