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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, if you passed over.

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from at least to three thousand feet above us. See,

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or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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Speaker 4: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you're

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all doing good. I'm Nick Hunter and you're listening to

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the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight we have the pleasure of

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Hollywood actress Camille Harmon and she comes to us from

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Los Angeles and Camille will be sharing her abductions that

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occurred in the mid nineties that involved fetus removal implants

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and the connection to the my Lab's Black Projects. Camille

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is a member of mufon and wrote for UFO Magazine

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under Don and Vicki Eckler, as well as public speaking

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at UFO conferences. She is involved in documentaries and is

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the founded member of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Camille is

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up next, but first, if you enjoy the show and

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Now on with the show. Hello, Camille, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on today and you'll call in

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from Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am La, La Land with the Santa Anna

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Wins blowing seventy miles an hour today. It's been rough,

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a rough.

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Speaker 3: Day, Okay. Now, Camille, you have some experiences you're going

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to be sharing with us. Would you like to start

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the beginning, please, ma'am.

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don't know if it's really the beginning, but I can

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tell you it's when I came into the awareness of

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this phenomena in my life. Was in nineteen ninety five.

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I was about what was I twenty nine years old,

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living in New Orleans at the time, and I had

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finished graduate school, getting my master's in theater at the

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University of New Orleans. And I had a boyfriend who

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was an actor. We were both hot stuff in New Orleans,

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and we had decided to move to LA after being

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in a production of Richard I I and having a

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great time. He was playing Richard I was Lady Anne,

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and we thought, let's go to LA and take on

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the world. So we did that, and we drove to

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LA with the U haul towing the car behind us

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and we had our dog with us, and we spent

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a night in Sedona. Actually we went camping along the way,

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so that was kind of weird. Maybe something happened there

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that started this whole ball rolling. So right before we

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had taken off on our trip, I had been compelled.

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I'm one of those people you hear about who was

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compelled to buy Whitley Streeber's book on the shelf at

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the bookstore. And this happened in about August of ninety five,

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right before we've moved in September, and I had seen

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this book Breakthrough, and I knew a little bit about

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Whitley Streeber, and I just saw that alien face on

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the cover of this hardcover book and I was like,

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what this guy is writing about now, because I knew

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he had an earlier book, Communion, but I hadn't read it.

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mind and really introduced me to the world of UFOs

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great view of the sky. I remember actually walking up

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the steps and looking at the view from the living

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room with the landlord and saying, oh my god, this

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window is like perfect for seeing UFOs. Of course, I

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don't know why I said that, but I did. And

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my sag card. I was so excited to just begin

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my new life acting in La, you know. So everything

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was going great. But then I started having all these

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the pill at the time very regularly. And I I

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remember in the past, I, you know, if I was

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ever late on my cycle, I would just go to

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the drug store and get a pregnancy test and take

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a pregnancy test and ease my mind to go, oh good,

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I went months without any menstrual cycle. And I remember

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thinking to myself, Oh, it's just stress. It's just because

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in December. So we had been in there September, October, November, December,

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and we were walking our dog Opal one day in

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the neighborhood and she saw these squirrels run up a

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palm tree and was barking at the top of the

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palm tree where they had a nest up there. And

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we were looking at that, and above that in the

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sky was a UFO, my very first UFO, and it

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was this black thing, very high altitude. I couldn't quite

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make out the shape, but it had like a shimmer

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around it, like it was black and maybe a triangle.

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around the edge. And my boyfriend Eric saw it too,

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and I remember him teasing me and saying, oh, you

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and your UFO books. You know, look, you're standing at

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the uf phone. I was like, I think we are,

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and we looked at each other, we made eye contact,

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gonna call it in, I'm gonna report it. So I

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went home and I was on the phone with the guy.

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and I called and it was move On. And I

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talked to this guy Bill, and I told him about

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the UFO and I don't know how far we got

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into the report, but you know, I told him what

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I saw and and he said, oh, we have these

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monthly meetings by the way, if you want to come,

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where I'll be there. So at the same time, in

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December of ninety five, I had this weird night when

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Lynch movie that I didn't feel like watching because I

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knew it would be gross, and I was sleeping alone,

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and I had this attack of sleep proalysis. And I

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had had that before in my life, but I this

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time it was really scary because I heard a voice

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say my name in my would seem to be from

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my left side, like an electronic sounding voice that just

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said my name, that's all it said. It said Camille

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like a robot or like a computer generated voice. And

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then I had an image of a gun pointed out,

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like a flash image of a gun pointed at me,

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and I was like, okay, what the hell was that.

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when Eric was in the bed with me sleeping, it

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happened again the same night, and I remember coming out

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of the paralysis, and this time I didn't have any

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weird audio visual thing, but I came out of the paralysis.

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and it woke him up, and I remember him asking

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me like, well, are you okay? And I was crying.

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the way. But then I started going to these moof

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blew my mind because she had a book out that

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darryl Anka, who channels Bishar, had illustrated, and she was

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in showbiz as well as a set photographer on Baywatch

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the director or producer or something of Baywatch, and she

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had this great life, but then she started having these

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abductions in Malibu at their house or Pacific palace haads,

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story and her emotion. And I checked out her book

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at the back table, and it had a checklist in

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the back that was like, you know, you may have

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been abducted if and it had all these things on

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this list. And I was reading this list and I

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was like, oh my god, I've had that, and I've

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had that, and I've had nose bleeds as a child,

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and I've had all these weird things on the list.

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oh my god, I think I'm one of these people.

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And I was introduced to Barbara Lamb, who's a hypnotherapist

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for this problem. And I said, Barbara Lamb, Hello, nice

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to meet you. I want to make an appointment to

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do a regression with you. Please about this night in

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December when I had these weird sleep proalysis attacks and

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saw UFO and let's do it. So we did. Had

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two incidents we investigated. Okay, the very first incident we

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investigated was not that night. Actually it was years ago,

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I think, like around nineteen ninety one, when I was

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I had this weird dream in my memory. I had

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this weird dream and in the dream, I was in

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a mansion with a film crew. I was part of

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the crew. I was walking through this rock star's house

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like some generic rock star with long hair. He was

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leading us through his house through these various rooms, and

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he was like, Okay, this is the studio, and this

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is the living room. And then he goes, oh, and

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this is the Satanic ritual room. And I looked in

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this room and there was like an altar and a

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but there was a there was a mounted taxidermy goat

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head on the wall, and I remember the rest the

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film crew kept walking and I stayed in the doorway

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of that room and I said to the room, to

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the general room, I said in my dream, I said,

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I dare you to make yourself known to me. That's

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what I said in my dream. And all of a

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sudden in the dream, the goatthead came alive and started

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making noise, you know, goat noise. It's so scary. And

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at that moment, I felt this feeling in my solar

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plexus area of my body that my soul or my

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life force was being sucked out of me at a

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rapid rate, like I was gonna die. And I just

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it all happened so fast, and I said stop, in

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the name of Jesus Christ. I was like in this realm,

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I don't know where I was no longer in that room.

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wind chimes in this dorm room, you know, like outside,

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and it was like, what the hell was that. It

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and all I could see were their eyes and they

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had these, you know, goat eyes or reptile eyes. They

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had weird irises. So that was a really scary thing.

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But then we targeted that night in December ninety sixth

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and I had this terrifying memory of a typical alien abduction. Right,

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I'm in my bed, I'm frozen, I can't move, and

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this light appears over me, this blue light that was

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like a turquoise blue, and it was just really solid light.

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It wasn't like a normal spotlight that flares out. It

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was like a column of light. And it hit me

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and I curled up into a fetal position in my memory,

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and I went through the ceiling in this fetal position,

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and I was terrified and I was like screaming up bah.

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But I didn't see a ship though. Okay, this is

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where it gets weird. So I go through the ceiling.

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And then the next thing I remember is I'm in

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this I'm on a table in a misty room. I

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can't see any walls or anything. There's just a misty

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white light everywhere, and I'm terrified and I'm saying, everybody's

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looking at me. Everybody's looking at me. And Barbara says,

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who is looking at you, and I said, I don't know,

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and she's she had to make me look around. She goes, well,

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look around and see if you see anything. And I

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looked to my left and I saw this row of

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being standing there like I don't know how many, there

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were more than three. They all looked the same they

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had They were white. They had white robes on with

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high collars, they had long sleeves, they had white, big

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white heads, the big black eyes, and they had something

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at their chest area that was like a triangle in

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a circle, some kind of emblem thing. And they were

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all standing next to each other with their arms down,

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their really long arms, and I was just terrified. And

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she was like, you know, what do they want? What's happening?

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Because you know, you're just laying there screaming, right, and

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the hypnotherapist has to like guide you through it because

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you're so emotional, you're not talking, and she doesn't know

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what's happening, so she has to say things like, Okay, now,

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what's happening. So I said to her, I said to Barbara,

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I said, they're telling me I have a baby and

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they want it. And I was just freaking out. So

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then my legs went apart and no one was touching them,

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and I felt really afraid because my body was moving,

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not in my control. And then there was a being

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I could not see between my legs with a flash

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of this like gynecological instrument, and I knew that this

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being was gonna put that in me, and I was

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freaking out, and she said, you can go above your

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body and remember it from above if that makes you

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feel less afraid or whatever, you know, more control of

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the memory. So I like floated up above to watch it.

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And this thing that I could not see, this being

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that I could not see, put this thing in this

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instrument in me and took it out. And there was

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something in the instrument through the slats that I could

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see that was like a little pink something. I cannot

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tell you what it looked like. I don't know if

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it was human or part human. It was very tiny,

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and the being walked out of the room with it,

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and I remember feeling this horrible grief, and I was

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so bereft. I was like crying and saying, they didn't

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even let me see it, and they just left and

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I was just in agony in I mean, I must

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have lost two or three pounds in this regression, just

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crying and my teeth were chattering, and it was just

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utter terror, and it blew my mind. So I mean,

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what do you do with that? You know? She gives

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me this little cassette tape with this horrible event on it,

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and I go home to my poor boyfriend and I

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sit him down and I make him listen to it.

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And he's hearing all this screaming and the teeth chattering

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and the wailing and and I mean, he looks at

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me like, holy crap. I mean, what you know, what's

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going on? What happened to my girlfriend? Or what didn't

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happen to my girlfriend? And my girlfriend's crazy or what like.

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He didn't know what to believe. You know, it's so

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depressing because you feel like it felt so real, and

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yet when you try to share it with someone, they

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don't know what to make of that, you know. And

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we'd been dating a long time years, and he was like,

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oh my god, this is horrible. So and then it

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just got worse because I was so obsessed and I

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was so talkative. And then it happened again. I had

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another incident when he was out of town. He went

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back to New Orleans for a film job of all things,

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and so he was gone for a week and I

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was sleeping alone, and I I woke up three mornings

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in a row in July of nineteen ninety six, and

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I saw my digital clock saying four zero zero, and

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I was like, why am I getting up? I didn't

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hear a noise, What's going on? And the third morning

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of that, I got in the tub to shave so

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I could go to the beach and meet my friend,

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and I saw this bleeding triangular puncture array of like

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needle marks in the shape of a little triangle on

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my calf, and I was like, damn it, that is

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some alien thing. I've seen that in one of my

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books or some stupid show I recorded, and I was

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looking for it and look in and look, and I

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found it picture like that in my book, some book

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I had. And I've since then met like five people.

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Four people have had that thing on different parts of

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our bodies. So I did another regression. This time I

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went to Yvonne Smith just to experiment with the other

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lady in town that was doing regressions, and I got

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aliens again, and this time the variety factor was I

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went out the window flat instead of through the ceiling

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in the fetal position, same thing. The blue light floats

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me up, I turn, I go out the window, and

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then boom, I'm on this table again. I don't remember UFO.

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I don't remember any kind of I remember going through

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the window and then I was on the table, but

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this time there was one tall one with the white robes,

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and then there were these little, three short ones with

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the kind of wrinkly heads. And I couldn't see their

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whole bodies. I just saw the tops of their heads

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at these wrinkly heads, and they were like gray or

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brown or something dark. And I remember crying and saying,

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you made me scared of little kids, because you look

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like little kids, but you're not little kids. And I

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was a teacher at the time, and I had had

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this experience where these kids pulled me toward a cabinet,

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like a bunch of them came up and grabbed my

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arms and started walking me to this cabinet to get

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some paper, and like, my body just went into this

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cellular memory of something similar to that happening, and I

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was like, oh my god, I have to hold it

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together in this classroom, because you know it was a

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real deja vu kind of feeling. So when these these

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little guys had me on the table in this hygnosis

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memory and I'm yelling at them, the one closest to

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my head put its hand on my forehead and I

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was like, get your creepy hand off me, little bastard,

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and I'm cussing it out. But then as it put

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its hand on my head and started stroking my forehead,

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I like calmed down. It like melted my anger and

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my panic and I just got really chill. And I

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I mean not chill. I'm happy, but it calmed me.

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And I just said, just do what you have to

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do and let me go home. And I was sedated somewhat.

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So then the tall doctory one with the white robes

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with the high collar and the big white head with

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the big black eyes and the beautiful long white fingers,

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he's reached for the ceiling. There's this stuff in the ceiling,

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like a wand on a some kind of a tubing

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and a rack with some tips, and he picks a

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tip and he puts one of these tips on the

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wand and he holds my leg, my left leg. He's

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standing on my right but he reaches across, he holds

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my left leg and he just pops that wand on

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my leg real quick like, almost like a vaccination or something.

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You know. That was all I remembered of that. I

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don't remember getting home, coming back, anything, just that procedure.

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And I did later work with the doctor and have

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the leg X ray. There was nothing in my leg,

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so that's why it seemed more like a vaccination kind

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of a thing, not a not an object being put

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in me. And then later I had gone to the

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dentist to get all my fillings changed out for you know,

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for the white, the nice white fillings, and I had

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all my old mercury feelings taken out. I loved my

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new fillings except for this one tooth. And I went

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to back to the dentist, a very nice dentist in

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Beverly Hills, and I said, you know, well I told

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him this before you even did the fillings. I said, hey,

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by the way, I'm an alien abductchee and I'm doing

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some hypnotherapy. And I've read a lot about this lately,

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and I've read that some people freak out in the

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dentist chair because they have flashbacks. And I said, that's

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never happened to me at the dentist before in my life.

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But I'm just telling you that, you know. And I said, oh,

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and by the way, if you ever find anything weird

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in my body, you have to tell me. And he

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was like, okay, well, I read a book about Roswell,

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so you know, I don't totally think you're crazy, okay.

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And so anyway, he does all my feelings and then

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this one feeling hurt and I go back and he's like, well,

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it looks good. You know, the seal is good. I

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can redo it. So he redes the filling and he

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finds this weird thing in my tooth that he had

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just worked on. He had just worked on that tooth

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a couple of months before, and now it's got this

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weird thing in it that he described as a spherical

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or semi spherical object. And he wrote me a whole

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letter about it. And he was drilling and drilling. It

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was really hard, and he said, I can't get a

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chunk of this. It's powderizing, but it's super hard and

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it's going down the drain, and what do you want

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me to do? And he showed it to me in

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the mirror and he was tapping on it with the

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little tool and I was like, oh my god. I said,

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I don't know, just like you fill it up and

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I'll you know, I'll decide later. So he filled it

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up and it did fix the sensitivity. So I just

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kind of, you know, put that in the back of

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my mind. Okay, that's not bothering me, so I'm not

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going to think about it. And then other weird things

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I had happened to my body. It had a dream

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where I was bitten by a spider, and when I

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woke up and looked in the mirror, I had this

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incision on my right shoulder, on the back of my

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shoulder where that spider had bitten me in my dream,

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and I would get this weird feeling where something was

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like a beasting would happen on that incision, and then

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I would get a jolt of electricity down my arm

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and out my fingers and it would just randomly happen.

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So I didn't know where that came from, and I

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never did a regression to it. Another weird thing I

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had on my left shoulder one day was a grid

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mark pattern, like a little square of dots, and it

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wasn't like needle marks. It was more like, I don't

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know what it was. It didn't last, it was temporary.

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The same thing with the little slice. It's not there anymore,

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the triangle everything in a way. But I got pictures,

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and so I did do a regression to the tooth

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with Barbara Lamb again. I went back to her and

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I thought I'd get aliens. You know, I was just guessing.

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But what happened is I had what you know, what

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they call a military abduction memory. So it was really terrifying.

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I did not have a blue beam or anything like that.

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I just remember I was in an exam room on

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a table. But this time I felt really drugged, not

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hyper alert and immobilized, like with the aliens or whatever

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they are. But and I say aliens very loosely, I

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don't know if these things are computer generated something, if

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it's a CIA mind control trick, if they're demonic beings,

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if they're a simulation being, I don't know. If they're

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I don't know what they are. I don't know if

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they're from another dimension another time. I don't know what

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they are. They don't have to be from another planet

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is where I'm getting at, So they could be from

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under the earth. They could be from Antarctica. I don't

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know where they're from. So anyway, in this memory, on

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this table, it was a normal exam room. It was

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not misty or weird or sci fi looking. It was

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just a normal like a doctor's room. But there were

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two men in there, not aliens, men, and they were

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in lab coats and they had black shoes and khaki

476
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,519
pants like some kind of military I just, you know,

477
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,279
like navy, not saying it was navy, just saying that's

478
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,920
what they were wearing. And the only word I got

479
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,160
out of them in this memory was the word trouble maker,

480
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960
aimed at me. And then they one of them put

481
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,440
a syringe through my cheek in my memory, and squirted

482
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,279
something into my jaw at this where this tooth was.

483
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,920
So they did not do something dental. I was not

484
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,079
in a dentist's chair. I was on a flat table,

485
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,680
and they just put the syringe into my cheek from

486
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,079
the outside and squirted something in there. So then they

487
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,000
put me on a gurney, rolled me down a hall,

488
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,160
and I ended up in this hangar that was seemingly

489
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,160
underground because it had a helicopter in it, and the

490
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,400
ceiling retracted and so it was like a dome kind

491
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,279
of ceiling or some kind of ceiling that opened up.

492
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,440
And then there was a lot of daylight, and I

493
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,359
remember how bright it was, and I was in this

494
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440
helicopter lying down, and they flew up, up, up and

495
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,359
took me home to my Silver Lake neighborhood in Los

496
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,319
Angeles and landed in this field by my house, which

497
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,640
is still a field. I went there recently to see

498
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,400
this field to see if anyone put a house on

499
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,799
it or anything, and it's still a field you can

500
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,640
land a helicopter on. And they said go home and

501
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,359
take a nap, and then I came out of the memory.

502
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,279
So I don't remember walking home, going in a door

503
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,160
or anything like that. And when I came out of

504
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,160
this regression, I was so freaked out. And Barbara told

505
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,839
me that it was the first time she had ever

506
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,319
had a regression with someone that had a military abduction memory.

507
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,279
This was in like nineteen ninety seven as well, so

508
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,599
I was terrified. I thought, oh my god, if this

509
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,000
is real, this is scarier than the aliens. I mean,

510
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:37,640
aliens are scary, but paramilitary something or other, covert something,

511
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,039
something that's that's scarier to me. It's more of a betrayal,

512
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:45,000
and it's more like unnerving because then you think, God,

513
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,799
if I didn't remember this until I went digging around

514
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,359
for it because of this dental situation, if this is real,

515
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,160
then you know what else is real that they've done

516
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,400
with me that I don't remember. And then you get

517
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,240
totally pair like what the hell? So that was very disturbing.

518
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:12,000
So I continued to go to meetings. I went to Roswell.

519
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,119
I had a great trip to the Roswell nineteen ninety

520
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,759
seven to fiftieth anniversary. I saw doctor Mac. Everybody was there,

521
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,240
all the greats that a lot of them that are

522
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:27,000
no longer with us were there, and it was very fascinating.

523
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,960
I took some photos at White Sands with Don Waldrup.

524
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,240
We had gone on this trip together. He was ahead

525
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,039
of move On LA at the time, and he drove

526
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,920
me there and I got UFOs, well, I should say,

527
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680
not a classic UFO. I got light anomalies in these

528
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,359
photos that we took in White Sands where I was,

529
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,400
I had drawn this big alien face on the sand

530
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,720
dune and I was yelling at this guy like I

531
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,279
dare you to come down here and we're just screwing

532
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:58,160
around taking these pictures. After I drew this big alien face,

533
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:02,799
and in the pictures later when we developed them, there

534
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:07,000
were these white things, like little squiggly things right in

535
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,599
my face where I was looking in two photos, so

536
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,799
I'm like yelling at the sky and there's a white

537
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,559
squiggly thing right in front of my face. And then

538
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:17,319
I'd look another way and I'm yelling at this guy

539
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,200
and there's a white squiggly thing in front of my

540
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240
face in another picture. So that was pretty wild. And

541
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640
you know, at this time too, I was I was

542
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,400
going to a lot of different healers. I went to

543
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,200
this lady, Marie Angelique Rafael, and she did a prayer.

544
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,519
She said, you agreed to work with these beings on

545
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,119
the soul level, and we can sever the contract. And

546
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,680
she prayed over me, and she prayed to Archangel Michael

547
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:46,240
and Saint Germain. And I went to a hyahuasca healer

548
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,480
who had come to La from Peru, and he did

549
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,200
a healing on me that was very powerful. I felt

550
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,960
like I was getting an exorcism, and he went and

551
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,079
threw up afterward, and I remember saying, is that normal?

552
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Is that what? You, you know. He goes, oh, yeah,

553
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,039
I throw up at the end of these clearings because

554
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,119
of I'm taking on, you know, what was done to you?

555
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,680
And I said, well, what do you think was done

556
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,119
to me? And he goes witchcraft and I'm like, oh

557
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,440
Jesus help me, what next? So that I mean, I

558
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,680
just kept going to these different healers, like you know,

559
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,359
to make it stop, and it did stop.

560
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:31,119
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Speaker 2: So for a long time, nothing was happening to me.

578
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:49,119
I was going to purshare channelings, I had talked to

579
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,119
my relatives more. I was trying to piece things together.

580
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720
I had an uncle who worked for NASA. He was

581
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,079
a mechanical engineer under Wernavon Brawn in the late sixties.

582
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,599
He worked on the Saturday and five rocket and all

583
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:04,480
these really cool projects at NASA over in Huntsville. And

584
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:06,880
I had lived with him and his family when I

585
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,519
was a little kid for a year because I was

586
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,799
kind of I was born to a teenage mom, and

587
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:12,680
I kind of got passed around a little bit, and

588
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,039
then I was adopted by my aunt. But I did

589
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,359
live with my uncle for a year in Huntsville, and

590
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400
so you know, I was thinking, like, wow, I keep

591
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,079
meeting all these abductees in support groups and stuff, and

592
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,799
so many of them have relatives in the military or

593
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:34,000
the space industry or you know, aerospace intelligence. Am I

594
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,559
on a list for this because of this whole biology

595
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,799
for technology thing that, you know, this alleged deal that

596
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000
was made back in the day. And I mean, I'm

597
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640
not blaming my uncle. I'm just wondering if him being

598
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,359
in NASA had anything to do with me being abducted,

599
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200
not that he would even know that. So of course

600
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400
I asked him about all this, and he said, I

601
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
don't know anything, and if it's true, it's an essay

602
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,559
and they're never going to tell you. I was like, thanks,

603
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,519
But I did have an interesting couple of stories visiting

604
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,960
him in Huntsville later, you know, as an adult when

605
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440
all this was happening, And one time I remember going

606
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:11,839
there around two thousand some point ish. I went there

607
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,519
a few times, I'm trying to remember the years, and

608
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,119
I went to the gift shop at the Redstone Arsenal

609
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920
where they had the Space Center, and they had all

610
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,920
this NASA stuff you could buy. But when I went

611
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,640
there on this particular time, they had all these alien

612
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:26,440
things you could buy at the gift shop, Like they

613
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400
had T shirts. I bought a T shirt. I bought

614
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,599
like a plastic cup with a straw with an alien

615
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960
on it. They had these figurines. They had a whole

616
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,319
wall of figurines. It was like, these are the Nordics,

617
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,400
these are the Grays, these are Reptilians, these are the Pleiadians.

618
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,279
It was like little little figurines you could buy, and

619
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,839
I remember just being blown away. And then I went

620
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,640
back there a couple of years later, like maybe two

621
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,920
thousand and two or something, and I went to the

622
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,079
same gift shop and there was nothing alien. There was

623
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,799
not one image of an alien on anything in the

624
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,920
It was all NASA. And I remember thinking, oh my god,

625
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,079
that's really trippy, Like what if they were going to

626
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,880
do disclosure and then they changed their mind or something.

627
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,079
That's how my brain works, Like I was just trying

628
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:14,480
to figure that out. Why would they take all the

629
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:18,760
alien stuff away from the store. So another military person

630
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,880
I met. I met this guy, Michael Younger through my

631
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,719
friend Richard Saraday, who was a journalist. Oh and I

632
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,960
started writing for UFO magazine in two thousand. From two

633
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,440
thousand to two thousand and four, I wrote for UFO magazine.

634
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,159
I was covering the MOUF on meetings and writing other articles,

635
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,639
and it was really fun because I got to meet

636
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,119
all these experts. And Richard Sarday, who was a UFO

637
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,119
journalist and podcaster, introduced me to this guy Michael Younger,

638
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,599
who was supposedly in the Navy but also was like

639
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,320
Delta Force or some kind of like special ops something

640
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,639
or other guy. And we had this very secret meeting

641
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,800
in a restaurant and he listened to my story and

642
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239
he said, yeah, you're the real deal, and he gave

643
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,039
me a code name and he called me angel Fish

644
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,719
and I thought that was weird. And he wouldn't tell

645
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,199
me why, but I said, why is the Navy involved

646
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,159
in this? And he said, well, the Earth is two

647
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:13,079
thirds water? And I was like, hmm, good point. Now,

648
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:17,199
with what I know about UFOs coming out of the

649
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,039
oceans and lakes and things, now that that's not as

650
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:25,079
surprising to me what he said. So, you know, I

651
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000
just I have a knack for meeting people that tell

652
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:31,119
me very interesting things. When I was acting, I would

653
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:33,760
be on set and I would talk freely. I would

654
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,119
talk at parties It mortified my boyfriend. He was like, Ah,

655
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480
can't you just not talk about this at parties? It's

656
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,079
so embarrassing. It's like you're a born again Christian or something,

657
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,360
and which was funny because later I became a born

658
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,119
again Christian, but that was later. So I would talk.

659
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,320
You know, I'm a big mouth. I'm a communicator, and

660
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,159
but I would get these amazing stories that other people

661
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,000
would tell me because I opened my mouth first. Right.

662
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,159
So I'm on set one day in this trailer with

663
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,920
a bunch of girls and bikinis and we're on this

664
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,639
night shoot of a beach party down at the beach,

665
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,119
and so they had us in this waiting this like RV.

666
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,920
We had to hang out in there so we wouldn't

667
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,679
freeze to death until they needed us. And I'm talking about,

668
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,119
you know, UFOs and stuff, and this girl says to me,

669
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:17,280
oh my god, I know what you're talking about. Let's

670
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,320
go talk over there. So we go down the hallway

671
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,360
and she says, let me tell you the story. She said,

672
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,880
I grew up in Maryland and my dad worked for

673
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,400
the NSA. He was very high up. And I was like,

674
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,679
oh my okay, keep talking. And she said okay. So

675
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000
he took me camping when I was a little girl,

676
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,719
and we're looking up at the stars, sitting around the campfire,

677
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,119
and he says to me, what if I told you

678
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,719
that God was an alien and this was all just

679
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:52,199
a big experiment. And I was like, whoa, that's really interesting.

680
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,559
And I file that away in my brain. You know,

681
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,320
That's what I do. I hear all this wild stuff

682
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,760
and I file it away and just keep putting the

683
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,480
pieces together. So eventually, you know, I looked at my childhood.

684
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,679
I was like, did this happen all my life? Am

685
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,920
I just like waking up to something that's you know,

686
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,000
are there more clues? And like I said, I had

687
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,719
these very severe nose bleeds as a child, which is

688
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,519
a symptom, and I would wake up with blood all

689
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,119
over the pillow. I had to have my nose carterized

690
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,840
at the doctor. As a child, I had a lot

691
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:27,000
of allergies and respiratory illnesses. I had weird dreams. I

692
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
had dreams about going into an elevator that went underground.

693
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,639
I had dreams about vampires things like that. Very fishy

694
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,079
and in my fears, like in my conscious life. As

695
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:41,280
a child, I was terrified of lizards and snakes. Of course,

696
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,000
I lived in Louisiana and we had those in the yard.

697
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,760
Terrified of praying mantis's, terrified of the slee stacks. On

698
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,599
the Land of the Lost, which was a Saturday morning

699
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,039
show for kids, there were these reptilian creatures. I was

700
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,199
terrified of the creature from the Black Lagoon. So those

701
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,559
are big red flags. Anyway. I just think maybe I

702
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,400
had stuff going on as a child, but I was

703
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:06,800
just not aware of it. All my fears were paranormal

704
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,320
to my general fears. And I remember seeing the Exorcist

705
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,480
movie when I was like thirteen, and it scared the

706
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,519
hell out of me, you know. So I had this

707
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:19,559
big fear of being possessed. And I think maybe because

708
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,119
she levitated above the bed, maybe that was some kind

709
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,320
of trigger. I don't know. I was just so afraid

710
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,239
of being possessed. And I was in Catholic school. So

711
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,360
I went to Arizona with my husband. Oh, I ended

712
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,760
up getting married. I gotta tell that story. So I

713
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,840
went to England. I went to see the crop circles

714
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,039
in nineteen ninety eight and it was amazing. I went

715
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:46,599
by myself and I met up with Barbara Lamb, and

716
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,599
I wanted to see Sting's house because I was a

717
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,199
Sting fanatic, the singer, and he lives right in Wiltshire, England,

718
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,760
near Stonehenge where all the crop circles are. So I

719
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,760
had this girl that was in the Sting fan club

720
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,880
bring me out there to find his house. He lives

721
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,679
in this big, gorgeous house out there, and I saw

722
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,199
a Sting standing in his driveway of all things. When

723
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,119
this car went through the through the gate and he

724
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
was standing in the driver I was like, oh my god,

725
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,079
he's right there. So Barbara and I got together and

726
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,519
she said, okay, Camil, we're going to your first crop circle.

727
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,639
And is it a horang? She said, it just happened

728
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:18,320
last night. So we drove to it and it was

729
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,679
kind of misty and drizzly and I walked into this

730
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,880
thing and it was huge, and later when we saw

731
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,840
pictures of it from above, they had nicknamed it the

732
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,360
Stingray and it looked just like a stingray with a

733
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,920
big long tail that curled, and I thought that is

734
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,679
too cool that. You know, I'm obsessed with Sting and

735
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,960
my first crop circle is the Sting Ray. That was

736
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,000
like a gift to me that was just too synchronistic,

737
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,360
and so I had this wonderful trip over there, and

738
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,079
I had a fling with a guy. You know. Of course,

739
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,119
I came back home to my boyfriend and I was like,

740
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,880
I'm sorry, but I had a fling in England, and

741
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,000
he was like, I'm so glad because I wanted to

742
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,400
break up with you, but I didn't want to be

743
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360
the bad guys. So we broke up and we were relieved,

744
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,320
but you know, we still cared about each other and

745
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,760
we ended up going to each other's wedding, so it

746
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,840
all worked out. But anyway, I met this guy here, Jeff,

747
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,159
my husband, in nineteen ninety eight, at a gas station

748
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,159
in Malibu and I had to get gas. I was

749
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,960
leaving a UFO Field Investigator training meeting at the beach

750
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,480
and I was heading to a rehearsal and it was

751
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:28,719
nighttime and I had to stop and get gas in Malibu,

752
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,239
and I chose this gas station that was right near

753
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,880
the gate to the colony where Sting has a house,

754
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:39,000
So that's why I picked that gas station. Anyway, I

755
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,440
start talking to this guy next to me getting gas

756
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,159
in his motorcycle because he asked me about my bumper

757
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,079
sticker that said I Love England and he said what

758
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:48,480
part of England do you love? And I was like,

759
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,679
you know, kind of rolling my eyes, I said, Wilt sure.

760
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,599
I was just there looking at crop circles and I thought,

761
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,760
he's not gonna know what I'm talking about. And he said, oh,

762
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,079
my friend Jim Delatoso showed me videos of UFOs making

763
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:06,519
crop circles. What got you into UFOs? And I'm like, uh,

764
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,559
they got into me. I was like, you know, Jim Delatoso,

765
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,760
I was really impressed because he analyzed his UFO footage

766
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,000
and he was living in Phoenix and he was part

767
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,199
of the Phoenix Lights analysis and so we started talking

768
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,119
and he had had my this guy the gas station,

769
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,360
my husband. He had had all these UFO experiences. So

770
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,840
we swapped business cards and then we got together and

771
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,800
had a date and here we are. So that was

772
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
nineteen ninety eight and we're still together and we have

773
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,519
a son who's grown. And Jeff had a lot of

774
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,119
experiences with UFOs two and still does. He saw two

775
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:45,039
in September in Malibu this year driving around on his motorcycle.

776
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:46,639
He saw them at night and they were different. They

777
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:52,000
were different objects, different shapes and everything. Anyway, so you

778
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,360
know that happened. We got married, and then we in

779
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,760
two thousand and five when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.

780
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,679
I was so traumatized. I said, I don't want to

781
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,960
live in la I'm afraid it's going to fall into

782
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
the ocean. I don't know, I just got really afraid.

783
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,280
I had kind of quit acting because we had a

784
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,519
son and he was little, and you know, I was

785
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,920
just not into acting. So we packed up and moved

786
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,119
to Tucson and we lived in Tucson for ten years,

787
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,119
and it was really nice. It was very beautiful and inexpensive,

788
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,239
and but you know, had a lot of culture and

789
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,360
fun things to do. So we enjoyed it. And they

790
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,119
had a very active move on and a lot of

791
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,920
UFO history there, and they had the Vatican Observatory based

792
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,519
at the University of Arizona, and a lot of observatories

793
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,880
and just a lot of famous Ufology people live there.

794
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Wendel Stevens lived there. He would go to the UFO

795
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,760
meetings and you know, he wrote all these books about

796
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,480
Billy Meyer and the Paadians and stuff. And I remember

797
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,079
asking him, like, do you trust the Plaandians and he

798
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:51,119
said no, and I said, oh, how interesting. Why and

799
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,480
he said because they've said things about the future that

800
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,159
didn't come true. And I was like, okay, well, there

801
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,880
you go. That's a good reason. And Colonel Robert Dean

802
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,480
lived in Arizona. Jim Nichols, the artist illustrator, lived in Arizona.

803
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,159
So I was friends with all these people and it

804
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,800
was exciting and I had a great time there. But

805
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,639
then we got bored and we moved back to la

806
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,159
in twenty fifteen. Oh by the way, while it was

807
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,920
in Arizona, I had a major t tour in the

808
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,159
fact that in remember twenty twelve, when everybody was, oh,

809
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,599
the end of the Mayan calendar, the whole world's going

810
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:27,079
to change, and we were all excited, and then kind

811
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:31,840
of it felt like nothing happened. Well after that, I

812
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,039
had this feeling, I don't know. We went up to Sedona,

813
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960
and I remember going to see the there's a big church,

814
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,840
like a big modern Catholic church built into the hill there,

815
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,639
and we went in there and there was this statue

816
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,559
of Saint Michael the archangel with the slaying a dragon,

817
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,679
and I just was very moved by that, and it

818
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,719
reminded me of me of my childhood and going to

819
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,360
Catholic school. I went to this really beautiful old school

820
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
in the country Louisiana with Salma Hayak by the way,

821
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,199
in eighth grade. And it was called Academy of the

822
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,719
Sacred Heart. And it's a very old order of nuns,

823
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840
the Sacred Heart Nuns from France that had settled this

824
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,440
school in eighteen twenty one, I think, and it was gorgeous.

825
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:17,920
I only went there for seventh and eighth grade. It

826
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,920
was a girls' school. It was a boarding school, but

827
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,960
I was a day student. Salma was a boarding student.

828
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
But it was so it was so beautiful and I

829
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,559
had my horse there. We had an equestrian program. It

830
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:30,440
was just really great. And then I went just wanted

831
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,920
to go to school with boys in high school and

832
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,239
I left there, but it really made an impression on me.

833
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239
And we had nuns for teachers and they were really nice.

834
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,800
And so anyway, I had been writing my book about

835
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,679
this whole alien thing and I had kind of come

836
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,639
to the end and I still didn't know what it was.

837
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:48,559
And I got really sad and I was like praying,

838
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:51,280
and it was like God, can you just reveal to

839
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,000
me what this is. I can move on with my life.

840
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,159
I don't want to lead anyone astray. And then these

841
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,679
books came my way. First it was Nigel Kerner's book

842
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Gray Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls, and I read

843
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,280
that book and it had this whole section on the

844
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,719
Shroud of Turin and how if it was real and

845
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Jesus had turned into a light being and risen from

846
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,480
the dead and had left this imprint on this shroud

847
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,960
that they said had to do with radiation, that it

848
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,199
meant he, you know, he went into a different state.

849
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:30,280
It just really moved me, and I had this whole

850
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:34,559
born again Jesus experience. And it was wild because my

851
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,440
husband had told me, he said, you're gonna have this

852
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,199
spiritual awakening, and I was like, I have those all

853
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,039
the time. I was very new age right when we

854
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,800
were dating. And he said, no, something big, and I

855
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,079
was like, okay, whatever. And then that happened right a

856
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,840
few months later, and he was looking at my astrology. Okay, Jeff,

857
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,119
my husband, Jeff Harmon is an astrologer, like a professional,

858
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,360
amazing astrologer. So he was saying that because he saw

859
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,599
that in my chart. So when I had this whole

860
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,840
born again thing, he was like, wow, I didn't know

861
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,280
it would be that. That's pretty wild, you know. And

862
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,559
so I started going back to church. I got confirmed

863
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,199
all this stuff. I was going to the Latin Mass.

864
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,760
It was really beautiful, really intense, and I was in

865
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,760
my happy place. I mean, he was like, how can

866
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,079
you go into this little box of doctrine and be

867
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,000
happy when you used to be so open minded? And

868
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,079
I said, I think aliens are demons and I'm done.

869
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,199
I'm done with it. I just want to go to Mass.

870
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,920
It's so beautiful. And I would go to Mass and

871
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,480
I would just cry and cry. And then I found

872
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,239
out I wasn't in a state of grace and I

873
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,599
couldn't have communion and all this, but I would still go.

874
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,239
And you know, I was just in this difficult situation

875
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:45,679
of not being able to be a good Catholic because

876
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,480
of my marriage and stuff. But I was I was

877
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,559
really into it. And I was reading all these books

878
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,079
about the saints and that their mystical experiences, and there

879
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:55,119
were so many parallels to the whole UFO thing, and

880
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:58,360
it fascinated me because I'd never been taught all that

881
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,280
in Catholic school, because I went to Catholics after Vatican two,

882
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,519
when it was like really kumbaya, and they didn't teach

883
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,679
you anything. They didn't teach us the Rosary, they didn't

884
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:10,079
tell us any of the cool supernatural stuff about the Saints.

885
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,800
It was really not a good religious class in the

886
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,599
late seventies early eighties. So anyway, we decided to move

887
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:23,480
back to LA and left Tucson. Came back to LA

888
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:26,119
in twenty fifteen and I started acting again and I

889
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:28,599
was still going to church. I was not into UFOs.

890
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,400
Started acting again. I did really well in my acting

891
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,559
career and it really took off, and I was in

892
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,519
an Oscar winning film called Vice with Christian Bale and

893
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,800
Steve Carell. I was in Shameless. I was having a

894
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,920
good old time, you know, acting in my late forties

895
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,519
and early fifties, and it was really fun and it

896
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,360
still is. I mean, I'm still an actress. It's just

897
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,559
been a hell of a couple of years. So no

898
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,719
UFO stuff happening. But then I started going to meetings

899
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,159
again here and there. But even if I'd go to

900
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,559
meetings UFO meetings, I would like argue I'd say, what

901
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:02,280
if alien you're demons? No, no, no, no, And everybody was like, whatever,

902
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,039
you know. They just the UFO scene is not into

903
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,360
the aliens of demons theory at all, so but I

904
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,960
would still go once in a while. And then really

905
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:13,599
when I started researching Tartaria stuff, which is a whole

906
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:17,199
subculture about history and looking at history in a different way,

907
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:22,360
and it's about were there previous resets? Are we in

908
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:28,960
a controlled world where there is a non human presence

909
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,480
that is keeping a lid on a certain narrative of

910
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:36,320
history and creating another where we have had these previous

911
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,320
resets in our in our history, And it's I don't

912
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,679
want to get too much into it. You can go

913
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,159
look into it. But it made me question history and

914
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,400
question reality, and question the origins of architecture around the

915
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,760
world and things like that, and it just really opened

916
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,960
my mind again. And I was watching a lot of

917
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,079
podcasts about Tartaria, and then I decided to go to

918
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,840
back to Arizona for the International UFO Congress in the

919
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,920
fall of twenty twenty two in Phoenix area, and I

920
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,519
had such a great time. Oh my gosh, I saw

921
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:15,480
all my old UFO friends there, Melinda Leslie and just

922
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,639
all these people like Lynn Katai was there everybody, and

923
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,320
I was like, oh man, I'm so back in, and

924
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,440
so much had happened that I didn't know about, like

925
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,400
the Davis Wilson thing, and all this stuff had happened

926
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,599
that I was just not aware of at all. And

927
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:33,320
I got hooked. I was like, Okay, I'm back in.

928
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,079
This is just too exciting. And I got so excited

929
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:40,440
to be back into it. I felt alive in a

930
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,159
different way. And it wasn't like I was totally throwing

931
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,039
out the aliens re demons thing. I just opened up

932
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:50,079
again to the possibility that it wasn't that simple. So

933
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,880
I started doing interviews. I got invited to speak at

934
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:00,159
UFO Con up in San Francisco, went up there, did that.

935
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:03,760
That was great. I met Chris Bledsoe in twenty twenty three,

936
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840
in about February when he came here for Alien Con,

937
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,840
and I really connected with him and his book. And

938
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
what I liked about him was he had this religious background,

939
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,840
but he had this mystical experience and he was seeing

940
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,679
it as a positive thing, and so I thought that

941
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,599
was interesting to me. I reconnected with Von Smith with

942
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,239
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright. I worked with her in some coaching.

943
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,719
I discovered Caroline Corey and all of her work and

944
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,000
her great documentaries. I went to see her in some

945
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,079
conferences and then I was at church. I was like,

946
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,880
I go to church. It's in a tent. It's a

947
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,079
long story, but during COVID we had to move into

948
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,519
a big tent in the parking lot and we got

949
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,639
so big that we couldn't fit in our old building.

950
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:50,360
So we still have church and a tent. So I

951
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,840
was sitting in this spot where I could see the sky,

952
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,280
and it was before Alien Con and I was nervous

953
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,840
about going up there to do this talk. And I said,

954
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,440
I had my camera and I said, okay, this is

955
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,280
what I need. I need this before I go do

956
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,320
this and get back into this world. Officially, I said,

957
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,320
if you are working with any good beings in the UFOs,

958
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,639
I need a sign. Please please give me a sign.

959
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:20,360
And as soon as I made this prayer, I look

960
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:27,480
up and I see these four white orbs. I think

961
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,000
they're orbs. Maybe they're not, maybe they're birds. I don't know.

962
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:32,960
They were very very high up in the clouds, come

963
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,559
out and start flying around each other. And I got

964
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:43,079
a few seconds of it on video and I was

965
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,679
like showing everyone, you know, and people were pretty blown away.

966
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,960
Some people thought it was sphear, some people thought it

967
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,519
was birds. Chris Bledsoe looked at it and told me

968
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,639
he thought it was angels. So I don't know what

969
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,639
it was. But to me, it was a sign because

970
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,360
the way I figure it, even if it was birds,

971
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:05,159
the symbol of the Holy Spirit is the white bird,

972
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,159
and so I was like, even if it's white birds,

973
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:14,119
it's still a sign to me that Jesus was saying, yes,

974
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,840
I am working with some good beings into UFOs. And

975
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,000
that's how I interpreted it. So I could be wrong,

976
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,079
but that's how I interpreted it. So the latest thing

977
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:26,800
that happened to me was Chris had told me Camille,

978
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,920
they're angels and they've been working with you since you

979
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,159
were a little girl. Okay, Now that made sense to

980
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:34,920
me because I had had a regression with Barbara years

981
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,199
ago that was very wonderful. It wasn't scary. And what

982
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:43,760
it happened was is I had in nineteen ninety eight

983
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,559
before I went to England, or maybe ninety seven. I

984
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:48,920
know I had it before I went to England because

985
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,360
I told someone in England about it. But I had

986
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,679
this longing. I kept catching myself saying things like oh, humans,

987
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,760
this human's that, and I felt like I was aligning

988
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,360
myself with some beings that were not here, and I

989
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,280
identifying with them in some way. And I went to

990
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,599
Barbara and I said, Barbara, I had this longing for

991
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,159
these beings and I don't remember. Can we target that?

992
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:13,360
And she said yeah, So she puts me under hypnosis,

993
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:16,920
and I had this memory of this white hand with

994
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,079
the white robe, like touching me through my crib when

995
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,440
I was a child, and then taking the hand away

996
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,239
from me, and I felt all this separation, anxiety and crying.

997
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,199
And then the next memory I had was it was

998
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,840
like I was a sofa being stuffed into a pillowcase

999
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,320
and I had like a panic attack and I was screaming.

1000
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,000
I was screaming, I don't want to be in this body.

1001
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:43,840
It's so weak, and I just felt like I had

1002
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,679
been stuffed into a body and I was panicking, and

1003
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,400
she said, well, then go to a place where you

1004
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,119
felt good. Go there, you know, And so then I

1005
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,719
pop out and I'm out in space and I'm I'm

1006
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,519
a blue light. I'm just a blue light, like a

1007
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:04,480
sphere of blue. And I look out across space and

1008
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:07,280
I see my friendly Cole and my friend John, and

1009
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,320
they are blue lights. And I was crying with recognition

1010
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,599
of seeing my friends in this form. And then I

1011
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,280
looked and there was Earth spinning, and it seemed to

1012
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,880
be spinning quickly, and it was causing me a lot

1013
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,679
of anxiety and dread, like being on the edge of

1014
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,519
a diving board. And I said, I don't want to

1015
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:28,880
go to Earth. It's spinning, it's spinning. And Barbara said,

1016
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,880
why do you have to go to Earth? And I said,

1017
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,119
I don't know. And she said, what asks someone why

1018
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,039
you have to go to Earth? And I asked. And

1019
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:38,440
then these light beings appeared, these white light beings that

1020
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,760
were like huge and not spheres. They were more like

1021
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,599
human form with light all around them so that I

1022
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:47,880
couldn't see their faces, but they had arms and legs

1023
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,440
and some kind of white robes of light. And I

1024
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:56,039
was crying with pure ecstasy in the presence of these things,

1025
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,599
and I felt this meshing with them, and I was

1026
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,239
I was saying things like they're my home, they're my family,

1027
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,599
that's why I wear a white robe. I had a

1028
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:13,159
white bathrobe I was talking about, and I just felt

1029
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:19,079
this total oneness, this ecstatic pure love and pure knowledge

1030
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,760
melding with these things, these these angel being whatever they were,

1031
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,840
I don't know what they were. They were so beautiful

1032
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,280
and energy wise. And when I asked them why did

1033
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,119
I have to go to Earth, they said the Earth

1034
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:32,840
needs you and I said why and they said to

1035
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,400
fight evil. And I was like, oh, okay, what am

1036
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,400
I supposed to do? And they said tell people that

1037
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,280
we exist and that we love them. And I said, okay,

1038
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,320
how am I supposed to do that? Like lecture about

1039
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,599
it or they said no, in your acting and I

1040
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,000
was like okay, but you know, most stuff that gets

1041
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,519
made in Hollywood is crap. So they said, don't worry.

1042
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:58,360
We will set it up so that you meet people

1043
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,800
and make projects worthy of your time. And I was, okay,

1044
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,000
that sounds amazing. Please, yes, please do it. And they

1045
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,519
gave me this image of this light coming from a

1046
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:15,159
central source through the universe through them, and then they

1047
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:19,320
would point this light with their arms at Earth and

1048
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,079
it would come out of their arms toward us on Earth.

1049
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,679
But we were walking around with umbrellas and they couldn't

1050
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,719
reach us, and they said, We're always here sending you

1051
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,559
this love. You're just all walking around with umbrellas, and

1052
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:38,719
it was this really beautiful image. So I had so

1053
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,000
much joy in that regression, and I kept pushing them

1054
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:46,000
on the acting. They said, the reason you have so

1055
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,000
many different jobs. All my other jobs, like I was

1056
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,440
catering and substitute teaching and doing all these weird jobs.

1057
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:54,960
I was fux finishing, I was a painter. They said,

1058
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,480
it's because you like talking to people and telling them

1059
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,800
your story, but you'll be able to do it on

1060
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,400
a much bigger scale in your acting. And it was like, okay.

1061
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,239
So it was weird because when I came out of

1062
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,079
the regression I was very happy. And my next acting

1063
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:15,159
job was actually a short film in which it was

1064
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,559
called The Encounter and it was about a man who

1065
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:20,519
had an angelic encounter and I played his wife. So

1066
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,760
that was really neat that it was the very next

1067
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,320
film I did was about an angelic encounter. And then

1068
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,559
I don't know, I mean, I hope that I will

1069
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:33,719
do more projects that are, you know, beneficial to humanity,

1070
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,239
because not everything I do is that way. Obviously, but

1071
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,880
that is my goal, you know, and so we'll see

1072
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,679
how that goes. I'm in this new thing right now

1073
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,280
that just got formed. It's called Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, and

1074
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,960
it's a networking group for UFO experiencers and experts to

1075
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,920
work with Hollywood producers, directors and writers and others, you know,

1076
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:06,480
publicist agents, things like that to create content, fiction and nonfiction,

1077
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:12,239
content that pushes disclosure and helps the world understand this

1078
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,880
phenomenon from stories based in truth that can be brought

1079
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,159
to this networking group. Right So, I'm straddling both sides,

1080
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:26,079
like I'm an actress and a UFO experiencer. And we

1081
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:30,920
had our inaugural lunch. It was awesome last month at

1082
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,559
Musso and Frank, this famous restaurant it's one hundred years

1083
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:36,400
old in Hollywood. I was sitting next to this producer

1084
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:39,760
who produced Hacksaw Ridge, and I was like, oh my god.

1085
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,519
There was like some really big people in here. It

1086
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,280
was so exciting because you know, being an abductee or

1087
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,679
an experience or whatever you call yourself, it can be

1088
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,960
so incredibly lonely. And even if you're in support groups,

1089
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,960
which I was and I still am, where you meet others,

1090
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,320
and you talk about all this and share stories in

1091
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,519
the general public and with your family and your old

1092
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:04,519
friends that you had before all this, it can be

1093
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,079
so isolating and lonely, and you can feel like the

1094
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:12,519
biggest weirdo in the family. And it's just been hard.

1095
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:15,639
And now that disclosures really ramping up, there are so

1096
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,159
many people like me that are so happy to be

1097
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:23,480
able to talk about it more freely without being afraid

1098
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:27,239
for the you know, the their income, their job security,

1099
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,440
all that kind of thing. Like I was so excited

1100
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
to see Goldie Han come out and talk about her

1101
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:36,400
alien experiences. And I have the same birthday as Goldiehan.

1102
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,400
And then fran Dresher, who's the head of SAG, who

1103
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,960
played the Nanny, that actress, she had a UFO experience

1104
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,320
and was abducted. So if the head of SAG and

1105
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,639
if Goldie Han can talk about aliens, then so can I.

1106
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,880
And I told my agent and I told my manager.

1107
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,599
I said, look, you know, I was talking about this

1108
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:58,239
in the nineties and doing interviews and then I kind

1109
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:00,400
of stopped. And now I'm going back and I'm going

1110
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,519
to be doing interviews and documentaries and just trying to

1111
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:05,360
be a piece of the puzzle and be helpful in

1112
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,239
this whole disclosure thing, because people need to be able

1113
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,800
to feel comfortable to talk about it. I have the

1114
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,880
advantage of being in a career where you know, as

1115
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,960
long as you're responsible and you show up and do

1116
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,800
the work, they're pretty forgiving about weirdness, right Like, look

1117
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,800
at Shirley McLain, look at you know, all these crazy

1118
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,360
actors who've had drug and alcohol problems. I've never had

1119
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,679
a drug and alcohol problem, So you know, I show up,

1120
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:33,920
I'm professionally, I do my job. It's just very exciting

1121
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,320
and I'm really looking forward to the immediate future. I

1122
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,119
think this is all definitely heading to a giant crescendo

1123
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,239
of knowledge and information, and it may be scary as hell,

1124
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,119
like what we learned might scare the hell out of

1125
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:48,920
us and might really cause some problems in society for

1126
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,119
a while as we go through this, but I mean,

1127
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:54,840
bring it on. I'm so over the secrecy and the

1128
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,119
wondering and i just want to know what is really

1129
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:04,119
going on. And I want justice for those of us

1130
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:09,920
who have had military shenanigans or whatever pseudo military I mean,

1131
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,719
I say military, and I shouldn't say that, because I

1132
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:15,239
don't know if it's really military or some other corporate

1133
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,800
security something or other operation. I did ask my Navy

1134
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,039
boyfriend once. I had an old boyfriend who was in

1135
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,760
the Navy, and I lived with him one summer in Jacksonville,

1136
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,960
and I remember him taking me to see the F

1137
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,360
eighteens because he worked on the F eighteens and this

1138
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,440
was before nine to eleven when you could bring your

1139
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,360
girlfriend on the base and everything. And so I called

1140
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,440
him up and I said, Steve, Oh my gosh, Okay,

1141
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:42,159
I gotta ask you because I just found out I'm

1142
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,199
an alien abductee and I just met this Navy guy

1143
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,199
who's telling me the Navy's involved, and so do you

1144
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,280
know anything like why did they take people? Like who

1145
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:51,880
did they pick?

1146
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:52,119
Speaker 1: Like?

1147
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,639
Speaker 2: Why me? And he said to me on the phone,

1148
01:01:55,679 --> 01:02:00,519
he said, all I know is they take people who

1149
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:03,119
are very pure. And I thought that was such a

1150
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:06,199
weird thing to say. What did that mean? He didn't elaborate,

1151
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:09,119
and you know, he and I were lovers. I know

1152
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:11,760
he didn't mean sexually pure. I don't know what he meant,

1153
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:14,039
but it was a very weird thing for him to say.

1154
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,639
And you know, all of us that have this experience,

1155
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:19,599
we go through that ym why me, and we try

1156
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,159
to figure it out. Is it because of my blood type?

1157
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:26,039
Is it because of my DNA, my lineage? You know,

1158
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,159
I had read that a lot of people of Irish

1159
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,400
descent have this, and I have Irish descent. You know,

1160
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,440
you hear about the negative blood type I have that

1161
01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:36,400
I have the rahe negative blood type. So I don't know.

1162
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,079
All I know is it seems to be from my

1163
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,639
mother's side of the family. I asked my mom once

1164
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,039
if she'd ever had any weird things and she said, well,

1165
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:48,639
I was meditating once and I felt these two claws

1166
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:51,280
on my shoulder and I was like, okay, that counts.

1167
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,000
That's helpful. Thank you for that information. And then I

1168
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:57,119
had the NASA uncle, her brother, and then my grandmother

1169
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:00,320
that I adored, who partially raised me. When she was

1170
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,039
in the hospital when she was really old, she saw

1171
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,679
aliens in the hospital and got so upset they had

1172
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:10,559
to call her Presbyterian minister to pray with her. And

1173
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:13,000
I remember the family got all mad at me and

1174
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:14,760
they said, you should have never told her about your

1175
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,320
alien stuff, because now she's hallucinating aliens At the hospital

1176
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,559
and I said, you know, I don't know what that was.

1177
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:24,800
She was probably on medication. Maybe the veil was lifted

1178
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,320
because of what drugs they had are on and she

1179
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,239
could see stuff. I don't know, or maybe it wasn't

1180
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,679
drug induced, you know, but I have this suspicionage through

1181
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:42,440
my mother's side of the family. So who knows.

1182
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Speaker 1: X x X.

1195
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: I guess you know, I just wanted to talk more

1196
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,840
about all these weird clues along the way, you know,

1197
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,960
like that girl that said her dad worked for the NSA,

1198
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,000
and all that I do know that I have this gift.

1199
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,119
People ask abductees a lot of times like do you

1200
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:56,480
have psychic abilities? Do you have the ability to heal? People?

1201
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:56,639
Speaker 5: Like?

1202
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,159
Speaker 2: Did they activate some kind of an ability with you?

1203
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,599
The only thing I've discovered about myself in that manner

1204
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,679
is I have this ability to find other abductees in

1205
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:10,760
the room. We find each other and we talk, and

1206
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,880
I can go to a party and find the person

1207
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,400
in the room that's had this experience. And that has

1208
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:21,639
caused me to believe that this experience is very common. Now,

1209
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:25,199
I don't know if that's my imagination because I just

1210
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,400
happened to vibrate towards the person in the room that

1211
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,199
had the experience. It just seems to me like there

1212
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:33,800
are a lot of people. Because I open my big mouth,

1213
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,960
I hear their stories back, and they would have never

1214
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:39,559
told me their story if I hadn't said something first.

1215
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Another interesting thing, when I first went back to the

1216
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:48,320
church in Tucson, this one church, not the Latin Mask,

1217
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,119
but this other one that I had first gone back to,

1218
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,320
and I went to confession and I was telling the

1219
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,280
priest everything in confession, and he told me to slow

1220
01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:01,400
down and not go so fast with my plans to

1221
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,079
you know, go back to church and everything. And I

1222
01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:06,639
remember wondering why he told me that, And then I

1223
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:12,079
remember contacting this guy, brother, guy Consulmago at the Vatican

1224
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:17,280
Observatory in Tucson and telling him, you know, my understanding

1225
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,199
that the Vatican was very interested in the subject matter,

1226
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,440
and that as an abductee, I had come to this

1227
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:26,079
theory that aliens were demons and I wanted to go

1228
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:28,159
back to the Church and all this, and he told

1229
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:32,000
me I was on the right track, which is interesting

1230
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:34,519
because the Vatican has been very interested in all this.

1231
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,920
Now they're an organization. They want self preservation and they're

1232
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:43,719
going to shape the narrative to preserve themselves and their doctrine.

1233
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:46,440
You know, there's a very interesting book that came out

1234
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:51,079
by doctor Paul Thigpen, who is a Catholic writer, and

1235
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:54,239
it came out last year published by Tan Publishing, which

1236
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,239
is a Catholic publisher, and it was all about the

1237
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,639
extraterrestrial reality and the Catholic Church. How does the Church

1238
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:02,840
say about those do about this. It's a very good book. Actually,

1239
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,480
I don't have the exact title. But I should have it.

1240
01:07:04,519 --> 01:07:08,000
But anyway, doctor Paul Thigpan th hig Pn, you can

1241
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:12,159
look it up. So even though the Catholic Church has

1242
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:16,000
believed me its own problems with corruption and you know,

1243
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,239
pedophilia and everything else, they have done a lot of

1244
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,679
wonderful things and they are very open minded about the subject,

1245
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,559
I will say, so, I guess they're like their perspective is,

1246
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,440
if there are aliens from other planets, how do they

1247
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:38,280
fit into the redemption narrative? If Jesus redeems the sinners

1248
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,559
on Earth who had original sin with Adam and Eve,

1249
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:44,039
how does that apply to other beings on other worlds

1250
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:46,440
where they didn't have Adam and Eve et cetera, et cetera,

1251
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,960
et cetera. So that's a very interesting thing to ponder.

1252
01:07:49,239 --> 01:07:54,960
But there were mystics throughout time. Swedenborg he wasn't Catholic,

1253
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,199
but he was a mystic that talked to beings on

1254
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,119
other worlds. The Mormons believe in other worlds. There are

1255
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,960
a lot of religions that incorporate beings from other worlds,

1256
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,760
the Hindu religion, the Muslim religion. So I think it

1257
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,119
doesn't have to totally destroy religion. But I think the

1258
01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:17,159
religions are going to have to assimilate this disclosure reality.

1259
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,600
Whether these beings are from other worlds that are in

1260
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:25,920
space or other worlds that are in other dimensions. Either way,

1261
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,079
they're going to have to deal with the non human

1262
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:35,039
entity reality that they have the ability to categorize as

1263
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:39,760
angelic or demonic or something else, neflin whatever. So I

1264
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,039
think the way religion handles this is going to be

1265
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:44,800
very interesting. Another thing that happened in my childhood that

1266
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,199
made me think, Wow, what an amazing synchronicity is. I

1267
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:52,600
had my first job at an ice cream shop called

1268
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,279
Swanson's with a girl who was very smart, and her

1269
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:01,760
father was a professor at the Universe of Southwestern Louisiana,

1270
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,840
where I eventually went to college in Lafayete, Louisiana, and

1271
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:11,520
he was famous because he had discovered Planet X. This guy,

1272
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,199
her dad, John Matisse m at E s E. And

1273
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,079
I knew that about him. This was in the eighties

1274
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:19,079
and I knew that about him. I knew he was

1275
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:21,520
famous for that, But I wasn't into aliens or space

1276
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,359
or anything back then. So now I think back and

1277
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,079
I'm like, what if Planet X is coming? What if

1278
01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:30,119
Niberu and all that is happening, And what if these

1279
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,479
elites that are trying to wrangle us into this tyrannical world,

1280
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,720
this wef transhumanist enslavement. What if they're doing that because

1281
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,039
they know that something's coming, that they're trying to strategize

1282
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:47,000
for themselves and take out a lot of us and

1283
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:49,720
slave the rest before it happens, like if it's a

1284
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,359
rogue planet, a comet, some kind of you know, disaster

1285
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,159
related thing, extinction level event kind of a thing. So

1286
01:09:57,239 --> 01:09:59,119
I don't know, I don't know what's happening. All I

1287
01:09:59,159 --> 01:10:03,479
know is that I went to this girl, Mary Mattisa's

1288
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,600
house and her dad was John Matiz, who discovered planet X.

1289
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,720
So I think that's really cool. So I just really

1290
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,840
feel like my whole life has been putting this puzzle

1291
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,560
together and I didn't even know it until I look back.

1292
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,159
Another influential person I met was David Ike in nineteen

1293
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:24,399
ninety seven. I guess he came to LA to speak

1294
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,279
at an expo. I think it was the Whole Life

1295
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:30,119
Expo back then, and I didn't know who he was,

1296
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,439
and I was volunteering there at a table and he

1297
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,960
came up the stairs on this mezzanine level of the hotel,

1298
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,359
and he had such a presence when he walked up

1299
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:43,760
the stairs, and I mean he didn't even speak. He

1300
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,479
just entered the room and I was, Oh, my god,

1301
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,920
who is that person. It's like he had an invisible

1302
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:51,319
army with him. And he went over to the speaker

1303
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,920
check in table and I couldn't hear what was happening.

1304
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,039
But when he walked away, I went over there and

1305
01:10:57,079 --> 01:10:58,439
I said, who was that guy? Who was that guy?

1306
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,680
And they said, David Ike, He's given a talk in

1307
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,399
such and such a room. And I said, can I

1308
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,119
be the room monitor in there? And they said okay,

1309
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:05,960
and they signed me up to be the room monitor.

1310
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:08,920
So I was the one checking people's tickets or wristbands

1311
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,600
or whatever. And I got to watch him do his

1312
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,439
presentation and he had this book out and The Truth

1313
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,880
Shall Set You Free. That was the book he was

1314
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,079
promoting at the time, and I was blown away by

1315
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:21,920
him and I got the book and then you know,

1316
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:25,520
that blew my mind. So it was about the Reptilians

1317
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,199
and all that. And then later I through UFO magazine,

1318
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,520
I got to interview Arizona Wilder, who was one of

1319
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,119
the people David Iike mentioned as being a survivor of

1320
01:11:38,279 --> 01:11:41,279
Satanic ritual abuse. And she and I met in this

1321
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:46,880
park in Malibu, Las Virgines Park and we sat at

1322
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,439
a picnic table and I interviewed her, and I remember

1323
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,439
I was so scared of her because of her story.

1324
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,359
It was just so terrifying, and I was like, I

1325
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:57,560
don't really want to be alone with this poor lady

1326
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,760
in this park, you know. I mean, I just I

1327
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,279
really didn't want her story to be true, because if

1328
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:05,439
it was true, it was so terrifying. I don't even

1329
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,359
think I wrote the article. I think I just interviewed

1330
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:09,960
her and I wasn't brave enough, or maybe the magazine

1331
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,520
wasn't brave enough to do the article. I've just met

1332
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:17,239
so many interesting people through this phenomena, living here in

1333
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:19,600
la and then when I was in Arizona as well.

1334
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,520
But we will have to see how it all shakes out.

1335
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,439
I at this point, I'm busy acting. I'm busy, you know,

1336
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,279
helping my husband with the astrology business. And I still

1337
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:34,239
go to church once in a while, not as regularly,

1338
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:39,319
and I still pray, and I just am waiting. I'm waiting,

1339
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,560
and I'm speaking. I'm looking for answers like everyone else,

1340
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,640
and I really do think it's coming to a head.

1341
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,960
So I wish us all the best. The latest experience

1342
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,359
I've had was Chris Bledsoe saying, Kamie, why don't you

1343
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:56,359
just say, Dear God, I'm willing to work with your

1344
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,920
angels and see what happens. And so I went outside

1345
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:01,640
and I just looked at the sky and I it

1346
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,960
was at night, and I was praying, Okay, God, I'm

1347
01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:07,359
I think I'm brave enough to work with your angels,

1348
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,960
but not anything scary, just like the light beings. Please,

1349
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:13,279
and I said, and I'm so scared. You can show

1350
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:16,720
up as a UFO or come to me in my dreams,

1351
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,279
but if you come to me in my face right

1352
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:20,960
here in the yard, I think I'll have a heart attack.

1353
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:22,920
So please don't do that right now. And I heard

1354
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,319
this owl hooting, and owls figure a lot in this

1355
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,720
phenomenon as messengers and screen memories and all kinds of things.

1356
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:34,760
That night, I went to bed and I was trying

1357
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,640
to sleep, but I couldn't sleep because Jeff was keeping

1358
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,960
me awake. So I went into the guest room and

1359
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,880
I was sleeping in there, and I woke up from

1360
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,520
this dream. I was having a dream where something was

1361
01:13:46,039 --> 01:13:49,520
in the bed in the guest room with me touching

1362
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,560
my neck, poking at my neck, and I thought, Oh

1363
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,359
my god, are they here? And I was afraid, and

1364
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,640
I was too afraid to turn around look. I was

1365
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,039
facing in the closet and the way they were touching

1366
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:05,840
me was like a doctor, wasn't like sexual. And I said,

1367
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:09,880
oh my god, are you here to heal me. If

1368
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,560
you are, that's great, And when you're done, could you

1369
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,000
go down the hall and heal Jeff. You know I mean,

1370
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:18,840
because we're both you know, I'm in my late fifties,

1371
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,560
he's in his early sixties. We got some ailments, nothing big.

1372
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:26,039
But and then in this memory, I got brave enough

1373
01:14:26,079 --> 01:14:29,279
to turn around and look at whoever was touching my neck.

1374
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:32,239
And when I turned around, I saw these two guys,

1375
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:38,359
like humans, with dark hair and beards, and they were Caucasian.

1376
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,399
They stared at me blankly, like, with no emotion. And

1377
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,800
then I came out of the memory, or I woke

1378
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,960
up or whatever, and so I don't know what that was,

1379
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,359
but it was weird. And I remember texting Chris the

1380
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:54,000
next day and saying, Chris, do you think that was real?

1381
01:14:54,079 --> 01:14:57,439
Because you know it was right after I made that prayer,

1382
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,720
And he said, it does seem like it might be real.

1383
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:04,000
Bea because you slept in the guest room, Like maybe

1384
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:08,000
they caused the disturbance that made you go in the

1385
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:10,520
guest room so that they could have you alone and

1386
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:13,680
work on you. I was like, yeah, maybe, I don't know.

1387
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,199
It was weird anyway, So I don't know what's in

1388
01:15:17,239 --> 01:15:19,720
store for me. I'm coming out in a couple of

1389
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,079
documentaries this I guess early twenty twenty four, one with

1390
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:28,439
Caroline Corey called Closure, and one is a new show

1391
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,960
for the CW called The Alien Disclosure Files. You know,

1392
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,039
I have some acting stuff on them going on as well.

1393
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,119
And then I'm also going to be in a new

1394
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:42,199
show with dan Akroyd on the History Channel just as

1395
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:44,439
a reenactor. I got hired to do a couple of

1396
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,239
reenactment segments on this new show called The Unbelievable with

1397
01:15:48,359 --> 01:15:52,119
dan ackroid They pick interesting subjects that were mysterious and

1398
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,359
they reenact them. So anyway, I'm going to be in

1399
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:57,039
a couple of those. But I just keep acting and

1400
01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:00,439
I know that I'm booked in a series about fighting

1401
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,359
child trafficking, which is really awesome. So I hope that

1402
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:05,840
that gets going soon because everything was on hold due

1403
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,159
to the strike. So there are some things coming up

1404
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:11,479
that are amazing projects that I'll be involved with if

1405
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:16,159
everything goes well and happens. I just keep trying to

1406
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:18,640
do my mission here, which is to be a communicator.

1407
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,640
I guess I just am going to use my acting

1408
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,359
and my speaking ability to tell my story or be

1409
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,000
in projects that tell stories, you know, be useful in

1410
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:31,279
that way because that seems to be what I do.

1411
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,159
I don't know what else to do. I don't have

1412
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:36,199
a science brain. I have an artist brain.

1413
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: Fascinating stuff, Camille, Thank you so many strange connections.

1414
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I think is the most interesting.

1415
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 3: You know, when we talk about military abductions. Now obviously

1416
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,640
it's known as my Labs Mill Labs Military abductions, and

1417
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,600
a lot of time we're not really talking about the

1418
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,199
military in general, but it's more to do of contractors

1419
01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:05,359
and off the record projects, right, because it is something

1420
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,319
which turns up time again in plenty of my guests,

1421
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,319
and there is a very dark side to it. It's

1422
01:17:13,359 --> 01:17:15,560
interesting that you said about a dream that you had

1423
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:20,239
back in nineteen ninety one at the rock Star House. Yeah,

1424
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:22,920
you don't remember if it actually was a rock star

1425
01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:23,880
or No.

1426
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,399
Speaker 2: It wasn't any rock star that was an actual person

1427
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,800
that I knew from pop culture or anything. It just

1428
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,079
seemed to be a generic representation of a rock star.

1429
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,199
I wouldn't say that it was anyone I would recognize

1430
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:40,520
as a person in real life.

1431
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting. It's just

1432
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,800
very strange that we have this connection with the my labs,

1433
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,119
with the alien abductions, with the human abductions, and we

1434
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:55,279
have this connection to Satanism, which is something which comes

1435
01:17:55,319 --> 01:17:58,439
up time and time again. It's very peculiar, and it's

1436
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,319
something which isn't talked about enough. I don't think, you know,

1437
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:03,239
when people hear it, they kind of making it up,

1438
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:06,199
making it up. But unfortunately, this is something which happens,

1439
01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:08,560
and it's been happening for a very long time.

1440
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: That's why I bring it up, because even though I

1441
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,319
have no conscious memory of being involved in anything like that,

1442
01:18:14,319 --> 01:18:17,920
that one dream was so disturbing and it had that

1443
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:20,760
physical effect on my you know, feeling like I was

1444
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,840
being attacked spiritually through my solar plexus, and then you

1445
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,439
read about all this stuff going on in the world

1446
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,960
and you're like, oh my god, that's really scary, you know,

1447
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,920
and it seems to be real, and you know, you

1448
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:36,079
hear rumors about all these things being related. That's what's

1449
01:18:36,279 --> 01:18:40,119
scared me the most about the my lab memory because

1450
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:42,640
it just when you bring in the human element, it's

1451
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,760
just frightening to think that anyone could have control over

1452
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,640
your life and compartmentalize your life in a way that

1453
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,520
you don't remember things, because that opens up such a

1454
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,560
huge can of worms.

1455
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 3: It's terrifying, you know, when it comes to aliens, something

1456
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,880
you can you can kind of work with, but you're

1457
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:02,199
when you add in the human element, it seems to

1458
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:04,920
be that they're taking so much more these people, which

1459
01:19:05,039 --> 01:19:07,680
in these positions they should be the one protecting you. Yeah,

1460
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,039
pay your tax dollars too, they're supposed to looking after you,

1461
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:12,520
looking at the security. They seem to be doing this

1462
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,119
on the nation's people. Yeah, it's scary because then of

1463
01:19:16,159 --> 01:19:19,760
course it brings into the whole mk ulture of mind control,

1464
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,000
and then that in turns connects to child trafficking and

1465
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,000
in human trafficking.

1466
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and you know, to me, I see the

1467
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,920
human trafficking problem as the greatest, well one of there's

1468
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,560
so many now, it's like you can't even stack them

1469
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,000
all in order of evil. But that's so massive. Oh,

1470
01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:41,640
here's another weird thing that relates to that. Right. So

1471
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,239
I was going to this church, the Latin Mass here

1472
01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:47,319
in La at this church. We were in another building

1473
01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:49,199
now in the tent, you know, but before that, we

1474
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:51,840
were at the church in West Hollywood as kind of

1475
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:56,039
a guest organization in their building. Okay, So the director

1476
01:19:56,119 --> 01:20:00,520
of Sound of Freedom and the actor in Sound Freedom

1477
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,640
who plays the wealthy guy who finances the sting operation

1478
01:20:06,279 --> 01:20:12,560
in other words, Alejandro Monteverde, who's the director, and Eduardo Veresteggi.

1479
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,640
I think that's how you say his last name. He's

1480
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,960
the actor who's now running for president of Mexico. Eduardo is.

1481
01:20:19,239 --> 01:20:22,239
They both were going to my church sometimes and I

1482
01:20:22,279 --> 01:20:25,000
met them and talked about Sound of Freedom when they

1483
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,840
were filming it, and I was so excited about it,

1484
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:31,199
and you know, I knew that was real as a problem.

1485
01:20:31,279 --> 01:20:35,199
I had been following Operation Underground Rescue, Tim Ballard and

1486
01:20:35,239 --> 01:20:40,039
all that, and I just I was so excited for them,

1487
01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:42,640
and then the movie took so long once they filmed

1488
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,399
it to come out. You know, there were all these

1489
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,199
problems with getting it out into the world, and I'm

1490
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:49,560
so happy when it finally came out. And I remember too,

1491
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,920
this is a funny story, when I was doing when

1492
01:20:52,039 --> 01:20:54,960
COVID hit and everything shut down, right, I was onto that,

1493
01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:57,000
Like I knew from the beginning. I was like, this

1494
01:20:57,039 --> 01:20:59,239
is some kind of scam, right, I'm not afraid of this,

1495
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,640
and I wouldn't get there, you know what. And I

1496
01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:03,760
went out and I was I was like, I'm not

1497
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,319
going to sit in my house and be afraid. I'm

1498
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:07,319
going to go work. So I got a job doing

1499
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:10,600
door dash, like delivering food, right because I was like,

1500
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,479
I literally cannot sit in my house and do nothing.

1501
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,079
I'm gonna go crazy. So I was delivering food to

1502
01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:18,680
people in this nice part of town, Thousand Oaks, and

1503
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,560
there are a lot of wealthy people out there, and

1504
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,399
it's really pleasant and beautiful and you know, it's easy

1505
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,359
to park and everything. So I knew Jim Cavizl lived

1506
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:28,960
out there. I knew Gary Sonicsee lived out there, and

1507
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,079
I was like, you know, my dream is I'm going

1508
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:33,920
to deliver some kind of food to Gary SNEeSe or

1509
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,279
Jim Cavizel. That's gonna that's my goal while I'm doing

1510
01:21:36,279 --> 01:21:39,760
this crazy job. My gee. So one day I'm driving

1511
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,119
around delivering food and I see this guy on the

1512
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:45,039
side of the road next to a motorcycle and he's

1513
01:21:45,079 --> 01:21:47,680
talking on this phone and I look. I mean, I

1514
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,119
drive and I look and I'm like, oh my god,

1515
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:51,479
I'm God, my God, my god. And it was Jim Cavizel.

1516
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,560
It was Jim Covizel standing on the side of the

1517
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,680
road talking on the phone next to a motorcycle. And

1518
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,920
I remember thinking that is too weird. And I went

1519
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,520
home and I googled. I googled Jim Covizel in motorcycle

1520
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,079
and all these pictures came up, and sure enough he

1521
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:07,199
rides motorcycles and I was like, yep, that was him.

1522
01:22:07,319 --> 01:22:10,920
And then I ended up bringing a pizza to Gary

1523
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:15,920
Sinize's house. It was like, see, I'm able to manifest

1524
01:22:16,039 --> 01:22:19,000
meeting these people that I like. I've met sting many times.

1525
01:22:19,079 --> 01:22:22,640
Anytime I get really attracted to some person and I

1526
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,600
want to meet them, I meet them. I've met Mel Gibson,

1527
01:22:26,119 --> 01:22:29,079
I've met Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise, anyone that I

1528
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,920
met Rutger Howard, like Shirley McClain. All these people that

1529
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,279
I would have a thing for and be very interested in,

1530
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:38,359
I would meet them. So it's just interesting. The power

1531
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,279
of intention is real. And that's what I'm trying to learn,

1532
01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:44,960
is like to not be in fear and to change

1533
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,880
my vibration and all this and you know, vibrate a

1534
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,239
better reality for myself. That's what I'm working on. It's

1535
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:53,479
really hard because my nature is very detective, like, and

1536
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,720
you know, I'm always looking on dark stuff, but I'm

1537
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,680
trying to control my thoughts. Like I have to balance

1538
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,680
all this dark stuff, right, I mean, don't we all? Golly?

1539
01:23:03,039 --> 01:23:05,520
So I have to go and like listen to you know,

1540
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,000
positive music and go out in nature a lot and

1541
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:12,520
stuff like that, go to the gym because otherwise, I mean,

1542
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,600
it's just crazy times that we're living in.

1543
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,319
Speaker 3: You know, I think we're more in control of our

1544
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:19,680
realities than we realize. I think we end up we

1545
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,479
have a habit of boxing ourselves in. We are capable

1546
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,439
of so much.

1547
01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:26,319
Speaker 2: More we are, And it's just been a wild ride.

1548
01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:28,640
I mean, every even all the little jobs I had,

1549
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,000
you know, like catering. I would be working in these

1550
01:23:31,039 --> 01:23:34,680
mansions and these big Hollywood parties and seeing all this stuff,

1551
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,319
and I was I was coming out at like a

1552
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:39,720
conspiracy theorist, right. Every time I would be in a situation.

1553
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,960
I did presidential dinners. I had to follow Chelsea Clinton

1554
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,000
around with a silver tray with the Diet seven up

1555
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:46,600
on it. For two days. I was in the room

1556
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,880
with Clinton, all these people and Clinton and Kevin Spacey

1557
01:23:51,359 --> 01:23:53,880
at Rob Reiner's house by the way. So you know,

1558
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,359
I was like always thinking like a David Ike reader.

1559
01:23:58,039 --> 01:24:00,720
I'd be in some house with some fancied and I'm like,

1560
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,720
oh my god, he's got a Masonic black and white

1561
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,439
checkerboard floor, and he's got this, and he's got that,

1562
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,159
and look at his book. I was such a spy.

1563
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,640
I was just always like keeping my eyes open, putting

1564
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:11,640
together the pieces.

1565
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,159
Speaker 3: You know, you work in Hollywood, and you know it's

1566
01:24:14,279 --> 01:24:18,279
known as being hollyweired. Yeah, do you find because you

1567
01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:21,319
are an outsider because you weren't born you weren't born

1568
01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:23,359
in California, and he weren't born in that and he

1569
01:24:23,399 --> 01:24:25,720
weren't born into it, Right, do you think it's it's

1570
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,439
different for you. Do you do you notice that strangeness.

1571
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: I have heard stories. I mean, even if you're not

1572
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,079
born into it, if you come here and you climb

1573
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:38,439
the ladder, you know, eventually you get approached by the cult. Basically,

1574
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,840
It's what I keep hearing, and I'm like, I don't

1575
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,680
want to ever get to that point. I don't want

1576
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,079
to be so famous that I get roped into the cult,

1577
01:24:45,119 --> 01:24:46,760
you know what I mean. I don't mind being a

1578
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,399
very low level actor for that reason. I've I talked

1579
01:24:50,399 --> 01:24:53,479
to a makeup artist girl who said that she's been

1580
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:58,000
approached several times to literally sign a paper to sell

1581
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:01,960
her soul for a product line, and turned him down.

1582
01:25:02,319 --> 01:25:04,920
So you know, I don't ever want anyone bringing me

1583
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,079
to some party and drugging me and getting me to

1584
01:25:07,119 --> 01:25:09,680
sign a paper to sell my soul. Right, So I'm

1585
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,279
very cautious about my career. I guess it's the best

1586
01:25:14,319 --> 01:25:16,359
way I can put it, and I do try to,

1587
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,920
you know, be savvy about things like that, because I

1588
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,479
would rather, you know, quit, move away than get myself

1589
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,920
in any kind of situation like that.

1590
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: Obviously, of course, I mean, I'm friends with che Luff

1591
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,800
and I've asked him, but he won't talk about anything

1592
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:35,640
like that at all.

1593
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's very interesting. He's such a fine actor and

1594
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,640
he's you know, he had this father from Louisiana, where

1595
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:45,039
I'm from, and then he just he played Padre Pio

1596
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:48,199
and had this big Catholic conversion. So I'm very interested

1597
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:51,880
in him. I really loved his film Honeyboy. It was

1598
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,520
very moving, so quite spectacular. Actually, so that's interesting that

1599
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,239
you know him. So, you know, I try to find

1600
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:04,199
people that I think are good people and contact them

1601
01:26:04,279 --> 01:26:07,000
or get to know them. I mean, like sitting next

1602
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,159
to this guy in this meeting at the Hollywood Disclosure

1603
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:14,560
Alliance and finding out he, you know, he produced Taxaw Ridge.

1604
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,000
I was like, wow, I love mel Gibson. That's great. Wow,

1605
01:26:18,079 --> 01:26:20,399
you know, and even saying you love Mel Gibson is

1606
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,520
like a you know, could get you canceled in this town.

1607
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,960
So it's just very complicated as you could imagine.

1608
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. Actually, when you're in the UK,

1609
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,399
you were in Wiltshire, and now that is just that's

1610
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,920
just ten miles away from from where I'm from. I

1611
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,960
spent time down in Wiltshire because when I was researching

1612
01:26:40,039 --> 01:26:42,079
back in the mid nineties. We would go down to

1613
01:26:42,079 --> 01:26:43,279
the crop circles down there.

1614
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful.

1615
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:48,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gloucestershire a lovely part of the world. And as

1616
01:26:48,199 --> 01:26:50,720
for Sting, now, I had a guest on and he

1617
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,479
was a photographer in La tell me about when he

1618
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,560
was working with Sting and all that kind of stuff.

1619
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,399
And we were recording on Skype like we are now

1620
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,920
and finished and none of this stuff is is connected

1621
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,239
up to my Facebook or my phone or anything. And

1622
01:27:04,279 --> 01:27:07,199
then for the next week all I got was adverts

1623
01:27:07,239 --> 01:27:10,159
for Police albums and Sting albums and you name it.

1624
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:13,079
That's so weird, it's so strange, just goes to show

1625
01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:14,319
the mic on your phone.

1626
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,199
Speaker 2: Well, you know. And I'm so paranoid about mind control

1627
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:21,359
and CIA and everything. Like even knowing that Stuart Copeland's

1628
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,239
brother and father were in the CIA in the Middle

1629
01:27:25,239 --> 01:27:27,520
East and he grew up in the Middle East made

1630
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,359
me wonder. When I read Preston Nichols book about using

1631
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,520
mind control through music and the music industry, Yeah, it

1632
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,640
made me think, I wonder if they put mind control

1633
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,479
frequencies in the Police albums to make me fall in

1634
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,319
love with seeing and buy more records. But you know,

1635
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,439
when you know that they can do that, then it

1636
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,920
makes you wonder, like, has that been done for this

1637
01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:53,119
band that has CIA connections? It makes you wonder that.

1638
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: Is true and it wouldn't surprise me. But then again,

1639
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you know, please were a great band.

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01:27:58,039 --> 01:28:00,319
Speaker 2: Exactly, So you're like, were they just awesome or do

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01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:03,439
they have an extra advantage in some kind of secret technology?

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01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:03,920
Who knows?

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure you know a lot of these musicians

1644
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,199
they do try an experiment with different things to see

1645
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:12,000
how they can, you know, kind of get a foothold.

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01:28:12,039 --> 01:28:13,520
I'd imagine who knows.

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01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,319
Speaker 2: I just don't trust anything. I have such trust issues,

1648
01:28:16,319 --> 01:28:17,039
it's ridiculous.

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01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't need to tell me. And there is

1650
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,680
certainly an interest with abductees contact ees. I think a

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,680
lot of it is they want to know how and

1652
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:29,159
why people are being connected with extrastrials or interdimensions or whatever.

1653
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,560
There is definitely a big interest. So when it comes

1654
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,960
to all this disclosure, it's very strange because if we

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01:28:36,079 --> 01:28:39,319
have full disclosure, then obviously this stuff will eventually come

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01:28:39,359 --> 01:28:42,359
out because there's only so long that truth can be hidden.

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01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 2: Right, And what I wonder is, well, you know they're

1658
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,800
always going to shape the narrative in some way, and

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01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,680
will we ever get the real truth? And will we

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01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,319
ever have justice for people who were criminally acted upon?

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01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,600
Because it would be nice. I mean, if I'm on

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01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,279
a list as a my lab target and that list

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01:28:57,399 --> 01:29:00,359
is discovered and there's some kind of class action, that

1664
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:03,359
would be really nice, just saying to have justice.

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01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 3: You know, I completely agree with you. The biggest problem

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01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:08,600
is in what you see in with Epstein and all that.

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01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,560
You know, the reason why it's not coming out is

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,199
because there's too many people involved, and these people they

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01:29:13,279 --> 01:29:16,840
have so much control, they're able to control what goes out,

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01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,119
so very strange.

1671
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 2: Times, very strange, very interesting times, you know, like.

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,119
Speaker 3: You've done with yourself. You know, it's important that people

1673
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:28,239
come out and share these experiences because there is so

1674
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,119
many there is, there is so many. I can't personally

1675
01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:33,359
keep up. And the more people come out then that

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,479
brings you know, I'd have a guest on and I'd

1677
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,920
then bring another five people out. You know, I heard

1678
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:39,600
so and so on on the show. You know, now

1679
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,600
I'm ready. Just yesterday I got contacted by a woman

1680
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,560
and she was very nervous. And it's been nearly a

1681
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,720
year and a half since you first contacted me. And

1682
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,560
she said, the more I hear, the more you know,

1683
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,039
I want to I want to come forward.

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01:29:50,199 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, I was just talking to a girl before I

1685
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,239
got on the on the call with you, because she

1686
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,600
happened to calm me because she's has interesting stories and

1687
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,960
things happening to her in Kentucky. And I was telling

1688
01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:02,199
I said, you should check out this podcast I'm about

1689
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:04,000
to do because they have a form where you can

1690
01:30:04,079 --> 01:30:06,960
submit yourself to be a guest, and you know, could

1691
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,560
do it and you don't have to be on camera.

1692
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,479
You could even use a fake name, I guess if

1693
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,680
you want, if you're that nervous, because she hasn't ever

1694
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,359
gone public, but she's a nurse and so yeah, so

1695
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,479
I can tell her that that she can go onto

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01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,520
your form and put in a submission to be a guest.

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01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, I'm not on YouTube for obvious reasons.

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01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,880
The reason why I use predominant audio is because it

1699
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,800
gives people a chance to share it and not have

1700
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,079
to worry about what their friend's family or even peers

1701
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,840
finding out. Because I do have a lot of people

1702
01:30:38,119 --> 01:30:41,560
from that have scientific backgrounds and have some very professional

1703
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,960
careers which are completely indifferent from this subject. It's more

1704
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,159
important that we hear these accounts. Sometimes we do change

1705
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:50,279
names than it makes people feel a little bit more

1706
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,840
more comfortable, you know, the more the area great.

1707
01:30:53,079 --> 01:30:55,199
Speaker 2: I'll tell her how fun it was, and that it's,

1708
01:30:55,279 --> 01:30:57,119
you know, something she can do if she gets brave

1709
01:30:57,159 --> 01:30:58,960
and wants to do it. And I'll tell others too,

1710
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:01,800
you know, I go all these support groups and stuff.

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01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do that. Because you're very confident and open person,

1712
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,359
people gravitate towards you. And then when you'll share anyse

1713
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:12,319
stories and then they bring out their stories. I'm fortunate

1714
01:31:12,359 --> 01:31:15,279
because I can go to a barbecue or a bar whatever,

1715
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:17,319
and then someone asked me what I do, and I

1716
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,279
tell them, and then before I know it, that then

1717
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:21,199
telling me about their experiences.

1718
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,520
Speaker 2: See, so it will have fun.

1719
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I tell people, you know, don't worry about

1720
01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:28,680
people looking at you like a crazy person. Talk to

1721
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,680
people about it. In fact, we know, the first time

1722
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,600
you meet someone, say to him, you know, have you

1723
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,880
ever seen a UFO or a ghost? Yeah, you'll be

1724
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,239
surprised what people will tell you exactly.

1725
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I should have my husband do a show because

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01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,720
he's seen a lot of UFOs, he had telepathic encounters

1727
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,119
with them. He was chased by one on his motorcycle

1728
01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:47,119
that stalled his motorcycle and he had to sleep at

1729
01:31:47,119 --> 01:31:49,439
the neighbors and then the next day it started up fine.

1730
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,920
He used to see them coming out of lakes in

1731
01:31:52,039 --> 01:31:54,319
Wisconsin when he was a kid. He grew up at

1732
01:31:54,359 --> 01:31:57,840
Way northern Wisconsin, and he saw Bigfoot up there too once.

1733
01:31:58,279 --> 01:31:59,840
So he's seen a lot of things.

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01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, wel Camille, you know I don't just cover UFOs.

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01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:05,199
I cover just about everything.

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01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 2: Cool.

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01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 3: You give Jeff that link and when he's got time, Camille,

1738
01:32:11,159 --> 01:32:13,680
I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

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01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Oh I had a wonderful time. Thank you so much.

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01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,600
It was great. Bye bye bye bye.

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01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 3: Take care yourself. That is all for this week. Keep

1742
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,439
updating and connected with a show on x, Facebook and Instagram.

1743
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,399
And if you've had an encounter that you'd like to

1744
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,920
share on the podcast, you can email me at UFO

1745
01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:33,560
Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out

1746
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,600
to me via the contact page on my website UFO

1747
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,920
Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Camille

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01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,079
for sharing tonight, and as always, thank you all for listening.

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01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,119
I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe

1750
01:32:47,840 --> 01:33:16,359
and keep watching us guys. Goodbye, S