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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Today we're today We're

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Dan Richards. A lot of you already know

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<v Speaker 1>Dan for his sharp commentary, his willingness to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the weeds on controversial topics, and his talent for cutting

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<v Speaker 1>through nonsense in a way that's both entertaining and brutally effective.

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<v Speaker 1>He's someone who can talk about big ideas, weird claims,

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<v Speaker 1>internet drama, and serious debates all in the same breath

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow makes it all work. I've had the pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting Dan twice in real life, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>honestly say he's a genuine cool dude. He's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to, down to earth, and just as engaging off

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<v Speaker 1>camera as he is online. But once he got that's online,

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<v Speaker 1>that other side kicks in, and that's where the trolling,

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<v Speaker 1>the shade, and the absolute precision starts showing up. His

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<v Speaker 1>ability to throw shade, which style is honestly impressive and

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<v Speaker 1>part of what makes him so fun to watch. What

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate about Dan is that he brings intelligence, humor,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little chaos to the conversation. He's not afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to challenge people, he's not afraid to ask uncomfortable questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and he definitely doesn't mind ruffling feathers when he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>it's deserved. So I'm really glad to have him back on.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we introduce him, let me introduce the other rejects.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got Judith the Loon joining us. What is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Judith? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello? Thank you for having me and welcome super Sexyd

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<v Speaker 3>You can catch me. You can catch me on YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>and on X as the Loon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I appreciate you joining us and

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<v Speaker 1>my man headless Jian, what is going on, sir? How

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing good. You can catch me on X and

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram and also on YouTube. We had X all

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<v Speaker 4>trialog this morning to me, Indigo and Ricardo. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a great two hour round trip talking about

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<v Speaker 4>everything from machine elves to man everything. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice got to talk about the machine oves love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for jumping on the man. And

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<v Speaker 1>we got Ethan Indigo. What is going on? Sir? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you.

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<v Speaker 5>Great to be here? Great to see everybody. Nick, Thanks

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<v Speaker 5>for putting together all these great meetings of the minds.

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<v Speaker 5>To Duncan Dan, awesome to talk with you once again.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm Ethan Indigo Smith. Easy to find on all

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<v Speaker 5>the social media, soveral books out there and more articles coming.

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<v Speaker 5>And again I appreciate being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, thank you sir. And finally Dan the man himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Please if there was anything I left out, please let

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<v Speaker 1>people know, or if you want to advertise your YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Fine. The only thing I'd want to say is that

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<v Speaker 6>May one through third we got the well the conference,

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<v Speaker 6>the question for Ansient Civilisations Conference. Getting a litt dyslexic there. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's gonna be me and I'm a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>other people to David Hatchet Childress and you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>I believe Hugh Newman's gonna be there. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of people there. That's I'll put a link

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<v Speaker 6>down below on my channel. But yeah, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>there in person. You'll be to get to drink with me,

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<v Speaker 6>yell at me, screaming at me. Oh, Brandon Lee Man,

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<v Speaker 6>I thought he died on the crow. Sorry, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 6>it's the first time you've heard that in your entire life.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, definitely the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Yeah, it's good to see everybody, and that that's

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<v Speaker 6>the only thing I wanted to plug. And yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 6>just let's just chat away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah real quickie. That's the one, the one that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up that you just mentioned that is being done by

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<v Speaker 1>Wandering Wolf.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, by a Wandering Wolf and Robert from World Media.

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<v Speaker 6>It's in Sedona, Arizona, which is the hippiest of hippie towns.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's pretty pretty wildly crazy. When i'd never been

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<v Speaker 6>there before, I went to speak with Graham Hancock there

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<v Speaker 6>about a year ago and I looked it up and said, Noah,

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<v Speaker 6>Arizona is known for lay lines and vortices. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that is a fucking hippie town if I ever heard

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<v Speaker 6>of one. So what do you guys have lay lines? Yeah, mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 6>but we don't grow here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just wanted to let people know me and

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<v Speaker 1>head let's have the pleasure of going to the one

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<v Speaker 1>in what Phoenix and that's you know, I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>for the second time and uh yeah, highly suggested if

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<v Speaker 1>people can make it. It was. It was an awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>awesome event out of blast, a lot of great speakers

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<v Speaker 1>and great people there, so definitely check it out if

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<v Speaker 1>you can.

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<v Speaker 6>But uh, think it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Hell yeah it was so. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I mean. I know I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about the Second Sphinx, but I know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's also other things that you've been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of going on about it. Fine, it's interesting, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>what what is your thoughts on all that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I've always thought there was a second Sphinx, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's we'll start with that. It's funny, it's even no

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<v Speaker 6>matter what your opinions are on it. It seems like alternate

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<v Speaker 6>history people almost all of us, are like, there's probably

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<v Speaker 6>a second Sphinx somewhere, you see it, and all the

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<v Speaker 6>stellas and everything, and then you have all this dualistic

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<v Speaker 6>shit in Egyptian literature and whatnot. So it's funny that

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<v Speaker 6>we have this search going on from our perspective, but

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<v Speaker 6>you don't really say, you don't really see you don't

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<v Speaker 6>really see academics looking for the second Sphinx every now

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<v Speaker 6>and again. But in this case, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 6>we have how do you put it? I personally still

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<v Speaker 6>the opinion that the second Sphinx is in the sky.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's Leo that the these the SAAR scan stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm assume everybody here knows it's proprietary. The

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<v Speaker 6>software that they use to scan under the Pyramids and

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<v Speaker 6>to scan under Huara and to scan for the second Sphinx,

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<v Speaker 6>this is proprietary stuff there. The the scan data comes

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<v Speaker 6>from the satellite. They access this data and then run

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<v Speaker 6>it through the software without other people having the ability

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<v Speaker 6>to use the software to verify it. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it does have the trust me bro thing attached to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just said one thing I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you real quick. Starting to run.

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<v Speaker 6>Babble all day, so no, no, please help me off quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are dealing with this second Sphinx is

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<v Speaker 1>that also the Italian doctors that found the stuff under

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<v Speaker 1>the Pyramids.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's the same the same uh, the same technology

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<v Speaker 6>and the same people yet okayond was I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 6>it was Filipo that was on Matt Bell's podcast, Big

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<v Speaker 6>plugged to Matt Bell from Limitless he's a stud in

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<v Speaker 6>the half and that's where he was interviewing Filipo and

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<v Speaker 6>that's where it took off. That's that's the news. The

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<v Speaker 6>media grafted onto that, and hopefully Matt got some follows

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<v Speaker 6>out of the deal because he's he is well, he

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<v Speaker 6>don't he don't need the money from ad revenue, so

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<v Speaker 6>he just does his own thing on YouTube. So I

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<v Speaker 6>do you know, I have a lot of respect for Matt.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just really quickly he's as far as as rich

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<v Speaker 6>dudes go, he's as he's as cool as you're gonna find.

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<v Speaker 6>He's as down the earth as you're gonna find. He'll

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<v Speaker 6>he'll quickly admit that he's like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't grow up in that kind of environment. He'll ask questions,

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't get all do I care? I can buy

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<v Speaker 6>your house? He's not none of that kind of attitude

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<v Speaker 6>from him whatsoever. And he's very humble and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>nicer of a guy than I could ever wrote to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I met him a cosmic summit. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't know he was loaded and figured he

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<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't by the way he acted.

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<v Speaker 6>No, yeah, he owns. He owns Bell Industries, which is

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<v Speaker 6>a it's not a publicly traded company, but it's like

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<v Speaker 6>Ross basically, it's a closed and it's they're like thirty states.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got over he's got thousands and thousands of employees.

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<v Speaker 6>Was like, put it that way, thousands and thousands of employees.

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<v Speaker 6>He's he's hundreds of stores, right, He's During COVID, he

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<v Speaker 6>was able because he's he's like a Chick fil a.

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<v Speaker 6>He can just do his own thing. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 6>a shareholders to deal with. During COVID, he was buying

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<v Speaker 6>up competitors ship when they would close down and they'd

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<v Speaker 6>option it off, He's like, I'm the only guy there

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<v Speaker 6>to bid take it.

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<v Speaker 1>So wow, swamping.

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<v Speaker 6>Man anyway, Yeah, that's that's a stud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a super sexy to.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's almost as sexy as me.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, the reason why I was asking you

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<v Speaker 1>that with the with the pyramids is because like again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so many people that can have that technology

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<v Speaker 1>to even say that that's what happened. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like, how uh you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have too many people that have the same stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>back up yet you know what I'm saying, like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you need it? Would help if you had two or

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<v Speaker 1>three other people kind of saying, oh, we found the

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<v Speaker 1>same shit.

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<v Speaker 6>That's absolutely right. And another big problem is there's like

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<v Speaker 6>a lump of dirt. Basically you've probably seeing the photographs

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<v Speaker 6>of like a lump of dirt, whether proposing this Matt

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<v Speaker 6>from Ancient Architects, Matt Simpson, he brought up. I just

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<v Speaker 6>was watching a short video of his earlier today or

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<v Speaker 6>last night that was a photograph of that same region

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<v Speaker 6>from like the nineteen twenties, and it doesn't have that

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<v Speaker 6>lump of dirt where it looks like that that dirt

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<v Speaker 6>was dug out of somewhere else or whatnot. Right, So

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<v Speaker 6>that's another very interesting thing here. But I get you know,

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion on that their scan technology is they're using AI, right,

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that that's why we're going to see

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<v Speaker 6>like problems. If you remember the first big scan they

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<v Speaker 6>did and it had like five teams chambers in the pyramid,

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<v Speaker 6>do you remember that? Do you remember when AI gave

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<v Speaker 6>everything six thumbs and their freaking toes were fat backwards

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<v Speaker 6>and all that. I was going to say, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still having problems with images sometimes when I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to do things with me.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes It really it's like the whoever's operating those things

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<v Speaker 6>has got what hell of a sense of humor? Is

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna make Keanu Reeves look as just as dumb

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<v Speaker 6>as I can for you here, buddy, But I got

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<v Speaker 6>a yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we we see from the historical record all of

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<v Speaker 4>these references to this underground complex and Hawara, and if

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<v Speaker 4>we really want a key to understanding what's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe even lost in the rest of Egyptian history and

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<v Speaker 4>Egyptian archaeology, that would be the main place. Why are

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<v Speaker 4>they so reluctant to excavate Hawara, the huge underground complex.

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<v Speaker 6>There, I think, well, for a few I think there's

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<v Speaker 6>a few reasons. One of them is that they've said

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<v Speaker 6>for like a century that they know where Juara is

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<v Speaker 6>and that the labyrinth was all above ground and everything

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<v Speaker 6>else is basically bs. So that's one thing. The second

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<v Speaker 6>van Kirkwick's work with the vases and the base scan

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<v Speaker 6>team and everything. At the very least it's demonstrated that

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<v Speaker 6>like that, a much more precise lathing type of machinery

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen hundred years or so, then we would give him

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<v Speaker 6>very least, he's pushed the bar that far. Now instead

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<v Speaker 6>of saying, man, Ben dearly did some good work, those

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<v Speaker 6>stupid you are, Look how stupid. It's like he deserves

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<v Speaker 6>it's not the only guy, but he's the reason, you

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<v Speaker 6>know it, he's the reason you're coming after him with

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<v Speaker 6>it and they need time to loot. Juara Bingo, I

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<v Speaker 6>see live Dan and everything stops. Oh thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>like a badass moderator for me and puts in a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of free, free labor, which is great because it

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you're good. You're good, You're good. So, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from what you've seen, what do you think is the

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<v Speaker 1>actual evidence, like from behind this, behind this, glean.

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<v Speaker 6>On the sphinx, I'm pretty skeptical of it. Hawara, on

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<v Speaker 6>the spots that i'm because even if the scan team,

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<v Speaker 6>even if the scan software is complete bullshit, the accounts,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Howara was supposed to be the fourth one

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<v Speaker 6>and all that shit on concrete, and then one I

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<v Speaker 6>forget whether you were supposed to be, but there were

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<v Speaker 6>But it barely really meets the standard of what's been described.

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<v Speaker 6>So you wonder if it's you know, if it's kind

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<v Speaker 6>drawn analogy, right, Maybe it's just a step down. It's

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<v Speaker 6>hard to say, but the Howara maze was definitely a

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<v Speaker 6>thing that was talked about a lot in by ancient historians.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I personally think that I'm shocked that we

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<v Speaker 6>Petrie was a verse guy that was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>here we go. Here's a mazed take care of guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifteen you know, I mean, we're we're missing all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, guys, it's right there. Herodotus talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Pythagoras went there, Plato went there. All of these major

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<v Speaker 4>Is this college of mystics, and we're just ignoring it

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason.

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<v Speaker 6>They do that so much. I was really blown away.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm working on a video. I've worked on several videos,

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<v Speaker 6>but this will be a little spoiler on one that's

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<v Speaker 6>coming in a month or two. The giants thing like

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<v Speaker 6>I blew my mind. Like I was doing I was

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<v Speaker 6>over in West Virginia, and so I just was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a little interesting. So I start looking into it

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit and this bones in the thing were

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<v Speaker 6>there was like ten thirteen skeletons total, and like ten

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<v Speaker 6>of them were like over seven foot. And the guy

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<v Speaker 6>that records this, it's like, okay, So at that point

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<v Speaker 6>you got to check the dude. That's immediately my next thing.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, all right, is this guy he always he

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<v Speaker 6>get a tea captain giant man? Was he? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>Was he a good scientist? What was his deal? He

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<v Speaker 6>was a fucking great scientist. He was like really known

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<v Speaker 6>for all kinds of shit and like well respected in

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<v Speaker 6>the field of archaeology. And this wasn't the only time

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<v Speaker 6>he reported giant bones. And they're not like insanely big.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, seven foot's not like so abnormal

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<v Speaker 6>is to be. You know, we have seven foot people

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<v Speaker 6>in the NBA to day. It's just that, I honestly

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<v Speaker 6>think a lot that probably had to do with a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of cultural indignation. It's like, hey, who who

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<v Speaker 6>who whoa whoa whoa whoa. You can't have these engines

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<v Speaker 6>being taller than us. That's that's terrible because the Smithsonian

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<v Speaker 6>comes out and puts on it like a rata. Basically,

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<v Speaker 6>he says, oh no, no, no, no, no, guys, that's not

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<v Speaker 6>exactly what happened. These weren't giant bones. These were you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he just mismeasured them. And that, honestly is The guy's

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<v Speaker 6>a fucking scientist. He's really good at all these different

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<v Speaker 6>kinds of things and drawing pictures and all this exactly labor,

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<v Speaker 6>but he doesn't how to use a tape measure. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just like you, guys, that's the same kind of thing here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, oh yeah, Plato Herodias, these guys, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 6>do all kinds of stuff every now and again. They

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<v Speaker 6>were wrong, but that that just bullshit. They just made

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<v Speaker 1>Not to uh, you know, kind of kill this and

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<v Speaker 1>go back to where we were before. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>another I still wanted to ask you. You did mention

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<v Speaker 1>the Sphinx around this? You think they're in this in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that Leo is the second Sphinx, and

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<v Speaker 6>like when they reference.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I was going to say anything, like what's

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<v Speaker 1>like the reasoning? Like is there anything else besides that

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you think that or well, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the the sky ground dualism kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 6>you see multiple images of dualistic things in ancient Egypt,

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<v Speaker 6>and one of them quite often is the sphinx, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's I think that's why a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 6>looking for a second sphinx. Mean even know the stella,

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<v Speaker 6>the dream stellar right in front of it. It's got

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<v Speaker 6>two sphinxes back to back, right like facing opposite directions.

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<v Speaker 6>I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that. So fuck.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna do numbers, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaus of pyramids. I mean I could see how maybe

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's there's actually no. This is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the funny things too. There's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 6>they and the reason is because of the ten thousand

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<v Speaker 6>fid that that's you know, that's going to put so

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<v Speaker 6>many people off every time. But there's an archaeo astronomer

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<v Speaker 6>name Vintenzio or a Fino, and he wrote a paper,

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of papers in fact, that are discussing those

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<v Speaker 6>orion Gize correlation and he found what he believes to

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<v Speaker 6>be a Fourth Dynasty reference, like a correlation and one

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<v Speaker 6>of the which may or may not be accurate. But

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<v Speaker 6>one of the coolest things about his work is that

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<v Speaker 6>he found a direct and verse correlation between the magnitude

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<v Speaker 6>of the star of the apparent magnitude, which is how

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<v Speaker 6>bright it looks from the ground, and the size of

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<v Speaker 6>the pyramid. And it's not just it's not just star brighter,

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<v Speaker 6>pyramid smaller. It follows a steady line that happens to

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<v Speaker 6>be it happens to be a very popular mathematical form

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<v Speaker 6>in their construction over there. It's like his work was

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<v Speaker 6>really interesting to me, and it was like the first

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<v Speaker 6>archaeo astronomer that actually took Robert Beavall's work seriously and

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<v Speaker 6>was like, Okay, let's see what we got under the

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<v Speaker 6>hood here. And next thing you know, it's like you

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<v Speaker 6>have a scientific debate. You have maybe it's ten thousand,

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<v Speaker 6>five hundred BC. You have a guy say it's Fourth Dynasty.

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<v Speaker 6>There's another guy that thinks that the star Sirrus is involved.

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<v Speaker 6>It becomes what it should be, as opposed to being

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<v Speaker 6>poop pooed out the gate, which it was through bullshit

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<v Speaker 6>means there was no way to go check in those

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<v Speaker 6>days in the nineties when Robert Mval first talked about

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<v Speaker 6>this late eighties early nineties, there was no way to

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<v Speaker 6>get online and go say what was the star? What

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<v Speaker 6>was the constellation that housed the sun in the spring

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<v Speaker 6>equinox of ten thy five hundred BC. You're beholden to

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<v Speaker 6>fucking astrological books that you had to go buy at

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<v Speaker 6>a hippie store that may or may not even care

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<v Speaker 6>if it's accurate, right, But nowadays you can go google it.

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<v Speaker 6>So one of the things they said is all Leo

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't in and it's like, well, it was on the cusps,

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<v Speaker 6>so it was at the start of Leo. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 6>the other one that they say is that it's backwards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's backwards. It's one hundred and eighty degrees backwards. Except

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<v Speaker 6>for imagine there's something drawn on this. There's two ways

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<v Speaker 6>you can lay it down, Okay, So it's like if

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<v Speaker 6>I draw three dots on my hand and lay it

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<v Speaker 6>down this way or lay it down this way, there's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be one hundred and eighty degre he's offering

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<v Speaker 6>each other. And if it's emulating the sky. It really

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<v Speaker 6>is going to depend on the convention. So for them

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<v Speaker 6>to say, oh, it's backwards, it's like, it's a fucking

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and eighty degrees backwards because you chose the

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<v Speaker 6>wrong convention deliberately. So the debunkers were lying about this

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<v Speaker 6>three decades right out the gate. They fucking lied about it.

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<v Speaker 6>And we're talking Ed ed Krup, who's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>his books on my shelf and I love his work normally,

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<v Speaker 6>but he was absolute shit heel on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's a lot of mind fucker like

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<v Speaker 1>people actually sit there and like really spend time to

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<v Speaker 1>like give an answer to fuck up shit like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that there's a degree of that. You have,

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<v Speaker 6>you have, you have. Social engineering is always a thing, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and ever's you know people, some people take jobs to

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<v Speaker 6>teaching is a great example of a parallel people take.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people take jobs to educate the next generation. Other

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<v Speaker 6>people take jobs to indoctrinate the next generation. So some

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<v Speaker 6>people are writing papers with the mention of adding scientific data.

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<v Speaker 6>And then there's guys like John Hoops, who is just

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<v Speaker 6>out there basically to poop poo all over the opposition,

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<v Speaker 6>that being the people that are the most likely to

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<v Speaker 6>buy their books, watch their fucking YouTube videos, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 6>et cetera, et cetera. It's like these guys, why is

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<v Speaker 6>their phone being drawing up? I don't know, man, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. It's crazy. It's it's like it's like standing

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<v Speaker 6>are McDonald's and telling everybody that beef is stupid. Why

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<v Speaker 6>are you eating cows? And then wondering why they don't

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<v Speaker 6>come back. You're fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, just for I guess, you know, for shits and giggles.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say somehow they do actually say like there's something

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<v Speaker 1>underneath that. What do you think that would change? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that would change Egyptian? Like in Egyptian history

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<v Speaker 1>the way we look at it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if they found a second Sphinx, it would

419
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<v Speaker 6>absolutely absolutely change Egyptian history. Mean, that's that's the whole thing.

420
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<v Speaker 6>They are so hell bent on keeping this timeline. I

421
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<v Speaker 6>don't understand at all they really are. I don't understand it.

422
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<v Speaker 6>They are so hell bent on keeping this timeline intact

423
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<v Speaker 6>that that they massage data with the Bayesian modeling that

424
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<v Speaker 6>they do whatever they can to not have anything moved

425
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<v Speaker 6>at all. And I understand that, like it's been kind

426
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<v Speaker 6>of the gold standard, like the Egyptian the Egyptian chronology

427
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<v Speaker 6>that's based mostly on written records but also on a

428
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<v Speaker 6>handful of other things, has been you know, mostly like

429
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<v Speaker 6>they take written records and form it through stars and

430
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<v Speaker 6>all kinds of It's a complicated thing, but it's generally

431
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<v Speaker 6>known as the written records. And this is to differentiate

432
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<v Speaker 6>it from the times when carbon dating became the like

433
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<v Speaker 6>the big part that informs things. Normally they use carbon

434
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<v Speaker 6>dating to refine dates. It's because it's a fucking hard science.

435
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<v Speaker 6>But in the case of Gize, it's like, oh, two

436
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<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty years, three hundred years OFFU man, that's rough. No,

437
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<v Speaker 6>if we eliminate the later dates and then we start

438
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<v Speaker 6>with the ones and we favor the ones that are

439
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<v Speaker 6>closest to the ends of construction, and then we eliminate

440
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<v Speaker 6>all the dates that don't correspond to known pharaohs. Hey,

441
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 6>look at that. The Carpentati fucking lines right up with

442
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<v Speaker 6>the written records. It's like, okay, cool, that's we can

443
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<v Speaker 6>do that with freaking creation science. Man, we can do

444
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<v Speaker 6>that with the Bible. We can do that with any

445
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<v Speaker 6>fucking book you want. We can sit down, play around,

446
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<v Speaker 6>move shit around, and eventually end up with data that

447
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<v Speaker 6>supports our position. And some people will go down that road.

448
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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I

449
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<v Speaker 1>think maybe you'd probably even notice, probably not saying it

450
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<v Speaker 1>in the best way, but I feel like a lot

451
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<v Speaker 1>of things get discredited because they want to it doesn't

452
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<v Speaker 1>fit our timeline of how this all happened. It's like

453
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<v Speaker 1>that's always the reason. That's so many reasons why. It's

454
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<v Speaker 1>just like, can we just say maybe it's wrong? Like,

455
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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck's the problem with that?

456
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well it seems hey, I got something.

457
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<v Speaker 2>It seems like there's a massive problem with it because

458
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't coalign with the functionalist, mechanistic, Cartesian world that

459
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<v Speaker 2>we live in. So, you know, it's one of those

460
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<v Speaker 2>things that if you don't add in the esoteric alchemical

461
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<v Speaker 2>understanding of the signs and symbols that the Egyptians were using,

462
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like what Dan was talking to, what he's

463
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<v Speaker 2>talking about was like the second sphinx seems more likely

464
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<v Speaker 2>to be an astrological significance more than that, there's another

465
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<v Speaker 2>sphinx underneath it, somewhere buried deep underground, which is easily

466
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<v Speaker 2>can be debunked because of the you know, it's a

467
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<v Speaker 2>proprietary software that's finding it, you know. And so if

468
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<v Speaker 2>we can go deep into the initiatory understanding of the

469
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<v Speaker 2>mythological and the symbolic of what the Egyptians were actually

470
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<v Speaker 2>doing with their mystery traditions, I think that's a really

471
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<v Speaker 2>important understanding of how our world through time is evolving

472
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<v Speaker 2>with consciousness interacting with these things.

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<v Speaker 7>Since the Egyptians really.

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<v Speaker 2>Understood that and their understanding of what death means, which

475
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<v Speaker 2>is completely different than what our understanding of death is today,

476
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<v Speaker 2>which is really important point.

477
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think if half the time that they spend

478
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<v Speaker 1>on Ourchael Joe there was also put into esotericism or

479
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<v Speaker 1>the occult, they'd actually figure out more shit.

480
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

481
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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, sorry, Danie, go ahead, go ahead.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Well no, I get really excited about this because it's

483
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<v Speaker 2>like that is the I think once we can see

484
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<v Speaker 2>it from there, our vision becomes not so myopic and

485
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<v Speaker 2>it starts to expand itself, and our awareness of what

486
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<v Speaker 2>is possible then can be broadened, and how we view

487
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<v Speaker 2>the horizon of understanding of what Egyptology even is can

488
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<v Speaker 2>be understood a lot better. Then we can actually look

489
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<v Speaker 2>at these things differently from a different perspective, and then

490
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get different answers. It's very similar to

491
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<v Speaker 2>like the climate nonsense that's going on. It's like, well,

492
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<v Speaker 2>if we could add in the solar minimums and maximums

493
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<v Speaker 2>into these things, and the cyclical nature of how the

494
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<v Speaker 2>planet changes, and then all of a sudden we get

495
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different things, and then we're not talking

496
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<v Speaker 2>about cows farting. We're actually talking about, you know, like

497
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<v Speaker 2>how the Earth changes through time and our place as

498
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<v Speaker 2>humans within it. All.

499
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<v Speaker 7>That's it.

500
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<v Speaker 1>Now.

501
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<v Speaker 6>I think as far as the esotericism and stuff goes,

502
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<v Speaker 6>it gets really difficult because it gets so attached to

503
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<v Speaker 6>it's it's attached to religious and spiritual thinking, and you

504
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<v Speaker 6>get into the realm of faith. And the problem with

505
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<v Speaker 6>the problem with faith is the same thing that it's

506
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<v Speaker 6>the problem when you're having discussions about alternate theories, like

507
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<v Speaker 6>we're talking about the Sphinx. For example, if somebody comes

508
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<v Speaker 6>in here in their hell bent that they know for

509
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<v Speaker 6>certain what's up with the second Sphinx, and that's it period,

510
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<v Speaker 6>end of story. It's kind of hard to have a

511
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<v Speaker 6>meaningful conversation with them. And the people that are the

512
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<v Speaker 6>most prominent in the spiritual world tend to have that

513
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<v Speaker 6>kind of self I'm certain, I know for I've got this,

514
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<v Speaker 6>I've informed from the higher power, and that rubs that

515
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<v Speaker 6>rubs the more skeptical types of brains the wrong way immediately.

516
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<v Speaker 6>It's just like I know for a fact, it's like, dude,

517
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<v Speaker 6>we don't do no is something here we do have

518
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<v Speaker 6>and so so there's a there's a big, big difference

519
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 6>in thinking, and and then that that lends itself to

520
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 6>that same hole, to that to the mind fuckery again,

521
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 6>where now it's they paint you always conspiracy theorists, and

522
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<v Speaker 6>they're not gonna show you as like having a discussion

523
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 6>about different you know, the cabal or any of these

524
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 6>any of these more complicated actual ideas that have some esoteric,

525
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, lineage. Instead, they're gonna show a bunch of

526
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 6>people skinny dipping it the memony or fucking hanging out

527
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 6>in the pyramid meditating, and then they're gonna laugh at it, right,

528
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 6>They're gonna put it in the most humorous light possible.

529
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<v Speaker 6>So when it ended up with a spot where unfortunately,

530
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<v Speaker 6>the vast majority of this stuff, that stuff just doesn't

531
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<v Speaker 6>get treated even remotely as viable or as reasonable. And

532
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it is hard to be empirical or to

533
00:27:57.640 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 6>be data driven when it comes to that sort of thing.

534
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<v Speaker 6>But I always circle back to Carl Sagan, man, because

535
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 6>that dude was fucking brilliant we came to that stuff.

536
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 6>You watch the movie Contact or read the book, and

537
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 6>most people seen the movie and not read the book.

538
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 6>But when Jodie Foster at the end she goes through

539
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 6>the little ball and sees her dad and talks to

540
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.559
<v Speaker 6>the alien out in space and all that shit, and

541
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.319
<v Speaker 6>it was just a few seconds of her, you know,

542
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 6>has split second of her falling, and the only evidence

543
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 6>is the you know, grainy, staticky footage that goes on

544
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 6>and on and on, which could well just be a

545
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 6>computer glitch of some sort of technological bug. Basically, she

546
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 6>has a trust me bro and all that evidence driven,

547
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 6>faith based shit. At the end of the day, you

548
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 6>don't like my personal experience, you don't believe me hopping

549
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 6>the fucking ball, and go yourself or don't up to you,

550
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 6>man said, I love the fact that Sagan realized that

551
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<v Speaker 6>we are.

552
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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

553
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<v Speaker 6>We are yes. The way forward to learning things is

554
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 6>generally speaking, evidence driven and stuff. This is how we

555
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 6>eliminate outliers and people's opinions become We can reconcile the

556
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 6>ones that are accurate and the ones that aren't. But

557
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 6>if we don't keep that core of humanity, you know,

558
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 6>think about all the horror stories of AI and how

559
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 6>it always revolves around it just not having that emotional

560
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 6>core that we can't really quite put our finger on.

561
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 6>But that's really it's just that pure cold logic scares

562
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 6>the fuck out of us. For a reason. We know

563
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 6>what it means.

564
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<v Speaker 1>I've even noticed, I think with yourself, from the first

565
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 1>time I met you, you seem to even be more open.

566
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<v Speaker 1>I think it to the esoteric being looked at with

567
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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff.

568
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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's well, as I've done more and more

569
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 6>and more research and seeing how a lot of these

570
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>things get lumped in together. Like I'm having a hard

571
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<v Speaker 6>time to remembering the guy's name. He did a lot

572
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<v Speaker 6>of work on the twenty twelve Mayan prophecy thing, John

573
00:29:52.759 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 6>Major Jenkins, John Major Jenkins, and he uh, he's he

574
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 6>was like his work was maligned by John Hoops so bad,

575
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 6>like horribly. They were basically made him out to be

576
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 6>like this, he was predicting the end of the world

577
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 6>based on the twenty twelve calendar thing, right, this is

578
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 6>doomsday and that's not Ever, that's not what he said.

579
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.240
<v Speaker 6>He was talking about it change in like this, this

580
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 6>esoteric spiritual thing that he personally believed was true. But

581
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<v Speaker 6>the fact, I mean, it doesn't matter if you believe

582
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 6>it's true or not, Like if the Mayans believed it's true.

583
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<v Speaker 6>That's the research that you're doing, which goes into their

584
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 6>research of esotericism. I mean, I've said this one a bunch.

585
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<v Speaker 6>It's like when people are like, oh, these guys just

586
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 6>run around eating mushrooms. When you look at these things

587
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 6>and try to interpret stuff, it's like, you know, we

588
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<v Speaker 6>know for a fact the guys that designed these fucking

589
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 6>edifices were high as fuck on mushrooms. So you're gonna

590
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 6>how are you gonna interpret it without him? Buddy, what

591
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 6>fucking lens are you gonna use? It's gonna put you

592
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 6>in that same where are you gonna find the machine nails?

593
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<v Speaker 5>Right? Like?

594
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So anyway, it's I do find that it should be.

595
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 6>I do find that that hard line gets gets used

596
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 6>too often to just push things out that don't deserve it.

597
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also think that the esoteric is I think

598
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 2>the term itself lends much to be understood, as in,

599
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a select few for a reason, and so for

600
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>something like this to go mainstream, it will never do

601
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that because of consciousness of what my understanding actually hides

602
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 2>itself for a reason, which is how you find truth.

603
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 2>And why Hydroger is so important in his understanding of

604
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>what he was trying to do with ancient philosophy with

605
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 2>people like Parmennonides and Heraclitis, with the terms like what

606
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>alahea means truth truth, then me he's using the term

607
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>alathea because it means unconcealedness. You bring something into the

608
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>clearing and it becomes unconcealed to you, and so it

609
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it then changes paradigms as you're as an individual, which

610
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 2>is why only a select few are able to go

611
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>through these things. And so it's really fascinating to me

612
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>when the conversation is shut down, when first off, it

613
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>needs to be understood that we can have an exoteric

614
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 2>conversation or what we think the empirical evidence shows. But

615
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 2>then amongst ourselves on chats like this or in our

616
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>own little mystery schools and the darkness of our own homes,

617
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>it's really important that we then can talk about the

618
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>symbols and what the actual underpinning of the philosophical understanding

619
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Egyptians at that time, and what the Ossyrian

620
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>mysteries actually meant, or what Aknat was trying to do

621
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<v Speaker 2>when he changed things into a monotheistic culture through time.

622
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's just it's a fascinating thing. I think

623
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<v Speaker 2>we forget esoteric means select few, I guess, is my

624
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<v Speaker 2>main point, And that's a point to be understood, especially

625
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<v Speaker 2>because I do follow the Gnostic and foremant a lot,

626
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<v Speaker 2>and I think he's such a fascinating character because he

627
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<v Speaker 2>himself forgets what nosis means. And nosis isn't for the masses.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Nosis is for a select few who choose to dare,

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<v Speaker 2>to will to know, and to remain silent in their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I think though, too, besides, like

631
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<v Speaker 1>a select few, I think, if let's say I'm somewhat

632
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<v Speaker 1>right on my experience, and if that's what's needed for

633
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a magical experience, nobody's gonna fucking go for that anyway.

634
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<v Speaker 1>I'll go for an NDE sure, or like all flatliners,

635
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I'll do flatliners. Nobody would fucking do that. Yeah, so

636
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that everybody's gonna not everybody's gonna get it anyway.

637
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very of what we're seeing with these ndis not

638
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<v Speaker 2>even that. But then the psychedelic experience, which is having

639
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<v Speaker 2>you go through a near death experience if you take

640
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>enough right, if you take the heroic dosage as we're seeing,

641
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>people can do that and still not understand it and get.

642
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<v Speaker 7>Lost these experience.

643
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting, like not even like I've taken psychedelics

644
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>with people and I am the only one who made

645
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<v Speaker 2>it out alive, and I'm not. I don't mean that physically,

646
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people got left behind and then

647
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 2>they didn't fall into the mystical and magical realms, And

648
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.599
<v Speaker 2>so again it's I think there's a lot more to

649
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<v Speaker 2>be said about the metam psychosis, the transmigration of the soul,

650
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>as Plato talks about through his understanding of what it

651
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 2>takes to then practice and try to get back to

652
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 2>these these things, which is then I think like these

653
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<v Speaker 2>landmarks seem to be things that are there, so we

654
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<v Speaker 2>can remember what it means to go into the dark

655
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 2>night of the soul and try to transmute our experiences

656
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>if we can read the symbols correctly.

657
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 7>And so, I don't know. I think that's a it's a.

658
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Fascinating topic and we I think it's only an infinite

659
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>regression of a conversation if we're trying to continually see

660
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>things through and like only empirical concrete lens.

661
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<v Speaker 7>But myself, that's myself.

662
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<v Speaker 6>Well, we definitely thinks outside of empiricism. Well, sorry, go ahead.

663
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<v Speaker 1>No, I was just gonna say one more thing before

664
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<v Speaker 1>before I was going to turn it back to you, Dan,

665
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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, if I could be wrong, but

666
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<v Speaker 1>I do think, like a lot of Egyptian stuff, even

667
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<v Speaker 1>like hieroglyphics are depicting this death isn't.

668
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 7>Oh for sure, No, no, it is for sure.

669
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<v Speaker 2>But then nikkeot's about what does death mean?

670
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I was thinking before when you said if

671
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>we understood them that death better through their eyes, I

672
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>think that would make a huge difference. That's what I'm

673
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:30.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out of here.

674
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that, and I agree, and that's why

675
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>things like Thoth the threat, and like Hermes.

676
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 7>The thrice great. Well, why is he thrice great?

677
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Because he was born and he died and then was

678
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 2>reborn again and and then you know, and so it's

679
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 2>like the Then my understanding of what is going on,

680
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and like say the Great Pyramid in these different things

681
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 2>is that you're simulating death either physically or psychologically and spiritually.

682
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>And so it's not to die actually of this eat suit,

683
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 2>but it's to make sure that you go through a

684
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 2>psychological death rebirth.

685
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 7>And and then you can lift.

686
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yourself into a higher state of consciousness and and and

687
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice your old self for the new self, this new

688
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 2>priest king, that filthy type of ideal. Personally, that's how

689
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I see it, at least, I mean, because because if

690
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you die of the physical body, you you have to

691
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>redo it type of thing, and so not everybody can

692
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>make the nd back into the body and then continue

693
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 2>to use this. I'd rather not be reborn as a baby.

694
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I like my body, so I want to continue.

695
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 6>You know, like now where this where this like you're

696
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 6>putting your finger directly on the reason that science has

697
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 6>a real problem with it, like uh like with esotericism,

698
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 6>because as soon as you get into like the just

699
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 6>how do you put it, like this, uh, inherent belief

700
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 6>in the soul, right, inherent belief in some form of

701
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 6>more than us to meet. Most scientists are going to

702
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 6>reject that on a fundamental level, right, They're going to

703
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 6>say that our brain is the seed of a consciousness.

704
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 6>And so with that in mind, it becomes really difficult.

705
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 6>It's like, well, let's put in these tests to uh,

706
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 6>to test and see if the pyramid does raise consciousness.

707
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 6>Then they're immediately they're laughing at this. It's like this

708
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 6>to them, it's not even worth doing. And so we

709
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 6>end up in a spot where and then the people

710
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 6>that are going that are interested in it, by and

711
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.079
<v Speaker 6>large aren't going to follow the scientific process. And this

712
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 6>is like psychology. It's going to be self reported, right,

713
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 6>and we have problems with self reporting, Like I doubt

714
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 6>the people that visited that island told their strengths that

715
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 6>they have this thing for kids, but this is you know,

716
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.440
<v Speaker 6>the fucking so the numbers weren't right, right, So that's good.

717
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 6>So self reporting is problematic, But at the same time

718
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 6>they're at the same time, there's order to the human

719
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 6>condition than just simply you know, being logical beings. Again,

720
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 6>it's horrible if you think about that, just just being

721
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 6>purely logical and stuff. So it is to me it's

722
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 6>worth looking into these things from other angles and other perspectives.

723
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 6>But I guess the best way of putting it is

724
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 6>that quote from what's that dude that wrote all that

725
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 6>calic cthulhu shit? Uh? Yeah, HP Lovecrafts. He's got that

726
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 6>quote that says, I don't need to believe in Santa Claus.

727
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 6>You know that people exchange gifts on December twenty fifth.

728
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 6>It's like, I don't I don't need to believe that

729
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 6>the ancient Egyptians had anything going on with all of

730
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 6>their beliefs and spiritual stuff to study it. You don't

731
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.880
<v Speaker 6>have to be a Christian to be a theologian. Right, So.

732
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Ritual artifact, right, that's the term that they use all

733
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 4>the time.

734
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 6>What does that mean DHS types will be ritual artifacts

735
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 6>in the future.

736
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

737
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it fascinating how we don't want to look at

738
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the lens of the things like this, not not we,

739
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.039
<v Speaker 2>but like the great We doesn't want to look at

740
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>the Sphinx and the Pyramids from the lens of what

741
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the mythologies are telling us that the Egyptians believed, you know,

742
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, why not understand it that they believe that

743
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 2>there was life after death and not even that that

744
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that that they thought that life after death was more

745
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 2>real than this life. Which is why Plato talked about

746
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the forums being just what they were, because he himself

747
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 2>we went there and studied with the priest craft of

748
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that time, went through the mystery schools, which were.

749
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.679
<v Speaker 7>Not out in the open because of it was it

750
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 7>was going into a dark.

751
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 6>Period years to even get in exactly.

752
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>And so it's like, why are we trying to view

753
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>it through a scientific materialist lens when that's not how

754
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>those things were created in the first place.

755
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 6>That's it's a it's a very real, very steady problem

756
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 6>that you've seen with archaeology for forever. You know. I

757
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.639
<v Speaker 6>did a video on the East Winacchi Cloves site, which

758
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 6>is the it's got a bunch of really big clothes

759
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 6>points and they're like expensive ones, and they were all

760
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 6>reburied and put back in the ground, and that the

761
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 6>whole deal with that site. The Native Americans and the

762
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 6>archaeologists are squaring off. The archaeologists are like, hey, man,

763
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 6>this is something from you know, ten thousand years ago.

764
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 6>This could tell us a lot about how people, how

765
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 6>the people came to the Americas and stuff. And then

766
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 6>you've got the Native American guy going, buddy, we came

767
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 6>there's a newspaper articles with it. Buddy, we came out

768
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 6>of the fucking caves. We don't need you guys to

769
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 6>tell us about our history, about our past. We know

770
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 6>where we came from. And this is bullshit. Get out

771
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 6>of our backyard, you get. Archaeology is very much has

772
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 6>always had this just inherent skepticism of mythology all across

773
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 6>the board. It's just like that there is no myths

774
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 6>do not contain a kernel of truth, kind of of attitude.

775
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 6>It's like, which is so nice, which is so nonsense?

776
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 6>But but I do get where you know, like, if

777
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 6>say you're studying the arc of the Covenant, I can

778
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 6>understand why somebody studying that is a lot more skeptical

779
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 6>of the claim of it having bred from heaven or

780
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 6>taking down the walls of Jericho than they are of

781
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 6>it being made out of wood and gold. Right, so

782
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 6>and so I get. But there's that's one of the

783
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 6>things again I like about Matt he's always assigning things probability.

784
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 6>He's like, I'm not sure about this. I'm not sure

785
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 6>about that, but I give it's like a one percent chance,

786
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 6>which is what he gave the Sphinx. By the way,

787
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 6>Matt Bell, the guy that interviewed Philippo on the second Sphinx,

788
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 6>he gives it about a one percent chance of being

789
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 6>a real But anyway, I think that I think that

790
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 6>the there's a very frustrating reality that of human psyche

791
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 6>is separating itself and looking at other people with a

792
00:41:56.159 --> 00:42:00.119
<v Speaker 6>lot of disdain. Nowadays, and you know, we got where

793
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 6>we are conquering the planet using what we bring to

794
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 6>the table as a as a community. And a great

795
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 6>example of this that I like to use a lot

796
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 6>is when Albert Einstein came up with the theory of

797
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 6>relativity equals mc square, and about nine years later or so,

798
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.519
<v Speaker 6>he has a quote saying, I can barely understand the

799
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 6>theory of relativity anymore now that the mathematicians have gotten

800
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 6>hold of it. Equals mc square doesn't want split the atom.

801
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 6>It's it's the basis. It's a foundation. But it took

802
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 6>a whole lot more fucking work to get there. You

803
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 6>had a dreamer. That was good, he's smart. But you

804
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 6>also had the methodical cocksucker that's just in there. Nope,

805
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 6>that won't work. That won't work. No, mo, fuck you.

806
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 6>And at the end of the day you wind up

807
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 6>these two can work together. How do we get the

808
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 6>carbon dating on the Great Pyramids done? The Edgar Casey

809
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.840
<v Speaker 6>Foundation that wanted to see a ten thousand year old

810
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 6>thing hired a couple of Egyptologists, fucking Zahi jas and

811
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 6>Mark Wenner, the two biggest skeptics on the planet. Right,

812
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 6>put them. They married together. At the end of the

813
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 6>day we got new data. Now they's pissed all over

814
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 6>it afterwards. But again that goes back to this just

815
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 6>give them an inch, we'll take a mile kind of

816
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 6>mentality that's taken over discourse ever since social media that

817
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 6>became a thing.

818
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's here's a different angle. What if back to

819
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 4>the whole idea of esotericism. What if these symbols do

820
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 4>represent a type of power structure, And unless you've got

821
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 4>the symbols in place, that power structure becomes in question.

822
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 4>So we're constantly looking at this from outside and not

823
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 4>understanding what these symbols really mean to the inner core

824
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 4>of the esotericists. Meanwhile, you know, there might have been

825
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 4>a whole different head on top of that that Sphinx,

826
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, thousands of years ago, and what did that

827
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.360
<v Speaker 4>mean to them versus what this new one means now?

828
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 4>So you know, we don't really have the keys. But

829
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 4>I think that that could be part of why things

830
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 4>haven't changed in so many years is because it kind

831
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 4>of represents a lineage almost.

832
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can't argue with that. Yeah, that's it's, you know, uh,

833
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 6>overturning the work of your of your forefathers in these

834
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 6>regards to something that you can't do if you're not

835
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 6>in the field.

836
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Man.

837
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 6>But you can. But they're not gonna like it, and

838
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 6>so you know it's up to them to rEFInd things.

839
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I get it all the time because I

840
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 6>challenge these dudes. I get it all the time in

841
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 6>my comments. What are your credentials? What are your credentials?

842
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 6>It fucking I can read a book, and I can

843
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 6>read a paper, and I can do basic math. I mean,

844
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 6>what more do you want? I mean, this is all

845
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 6>that you have to do to evaluate these things. It's

846
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 6>not like they're written in jargon. Nobody can comprehend I

847
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 6>got Google right here. If I don't know what works

848
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 6>because I'm too dumb, I'll press a button and find out. Fuck,

849
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 6>it's not complicated, but they don't want you to it's honestly. So.

850
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 6>One of the funniest things about social media is it

851
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 6>really has pulled back the veil on science. Not science

852
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 6>itself so much as the scientists, but it shows that

853
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 6>you the body's got a problem because the individual cells

854
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 6>are often corrupt and it depends on the field of study.

855
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 6>But archaeology, I mean, archaeology started out because a bunch

856
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 6>of dudes that collected artifacts wanted a way to catalog them.

857
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 6>It's like if they were collected a bunch of video games,

858
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 6>they want to know which one came out first and

859
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.159
<v Speaker 6>which variants went where, and so they start doing all

860
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 6>their research. And that's where archaeology came from. They wanted

861
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 6>to know which base went where on the timeline, who

862
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 6>made what, And that's the origins and even one hundred

863
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 6>years ago they were running around looting the shit out

864
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 6>of Native American stuff to no end. And it it's

865
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 6>actually done like in some ways cultural damage. I mean,

866
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 6>it's the kind of thing that always happens but for

867
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 6>it to happen at the hands of the people that

868
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 6>are claiming to be safeguarding it is ridiculous. Like the

869
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 6>Kachina dolls, for example, are a Navajo thing where they

870
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 6>make those, and the old ones were very esoteric, they

871
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 6>were symbolic, they were they represented specific gods, and they

872
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 6>were used for specific purposes. But then all these white

873
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 6>dudes start buying them up and all these poor noble savages,

874
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, And next thing you know, it's fucking

875
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 6>katina do alls look like a warhammer forty thousand miniature,

876
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 6>but just scaled up. They're all painted and detailed and

877
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 6>all this they're made to go on a white dude's

878
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 6>self and ain't ain't gotten fuckahol to do with the

879
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 6>original purpose anymore. And that again, this happens all the time,

880
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 6>but these more than god damn archaeologists do it at

881
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 6>the anthropologists, the people whose job it is to safeguard it.

882
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 6>So this is so frustratingly. They are trying so hard

883
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 6>to represent themselves as a science and to portray themselves

884
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 6>as a legit field to study, because they know what

885
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 6>they really are as a bunch of fucking collectors, and

886
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 6>that are just trying to we have historians. Historians aren't

887
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 6>so stupid as to try to call themselves scientists. They

888
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 6>both use artifacts, they both cite carbon dating and all

889
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 6>kinds of different science. Historians are not dumbasses, and they

890
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 6>don't say all, we're scientists because they know better. Fucking

891
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 6>archaeologist this puts on a sombrero or a fucking fenora.

892
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 6>It's like, oh, yeah, scientists is bullshit. They lark and

893
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 6>they know it and they hate it. They're well aware

894
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 6>of it. Deepe security, you project right, if this is

895
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 6>why the racism thing comes up all the time, they're like, oh,

896
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 6>this guy from eighteen eighty was racist and he was

897
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 6>a white supremacist. It's like, yeah, like all the dudes

898
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 6>in eighteen eighty were fucking white supremacists. I don't know

899
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 6>what to tell you. What were the archaeologists doing in

900
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 6>eighteen eighty, or you can look at what they're up

901
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 6>to today. You've got NAGPRA violations all over the places,

902
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 6>Like these guys are supposed to have repatriated bones thirty

903
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 6>five years ago and they still got them. Dartmouth University

904
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 6>they got in trouble a few years ago for using

905
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 6>Native American bones as teaching aids in class, ones that

906
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 6>were supposed to not even be in their hands anymore,

907
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 6>and they're not just like got them on a shelf somewhere.

908
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Some dudes like, hey, check out the actual fuck. So

909
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 6>tell me how how terrible we are because some dude

910
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 6>a hundred years ago said some ship. It's like, dude,

911
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 6>this is that proverbial thing Jesus said about you take

912
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 6>the damn telephone, pull outs your eye and then come

913
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 6>take the speck out of mind, but fix your own

914
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 6>clean your fucking house, bud. Absolutely, Yeah, I just quoted

915
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 6>Jesus and said fuck at the same time.

916
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>That's all right, it's the show.

917
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 6>Hey, I want to say thanks to Nick for gifted

918
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 6>out about of the channel memberships. You said, thank you,

919
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 6>very nice one.

920
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 1>What was that spot that the headless you brought up before,

921
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>uh the stuff? Yeah, yeah, I want to get back

922
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to that.

923
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So you got the bet pyramid right, and then

924
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:53.039
<v Speaker 4>in front of that supposedly is this massive underground labyrinth

925
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 4>complex and you know it played a huge role in

926
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 4>agent classical history. And I guess they're they some sort

927
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.719
<v Speaker 4>of scans that showed that there was an underground complex

928
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:07.360
<v Speaker 4>there and they're not excavating. I heard that it was

929
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 4>specifically because it was flooded out because of the dam,

930
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.320
<v Speaker 4>but I don't know if that's true or not. But

931
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, even if it was, you could pump that

932
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 4>water out and still find out all these keys to

933
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>the ancient world. But you know, it wasn't just the

934
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Huara underground complex that had a death penalty associated with

935
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 4>revealing the secrets there. It was also the Yelluciti of

936
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 4>mystery schools. So we're talking about on earthing stuff from

937
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 4>ancient Western history that comes along with, you know, death

938
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.239
<v Speaker 4>if you reveal it. So there could be a lot

939
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 4>of that sort of same power dynamics surviving in the West,

940
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 4>and you know it could be at these conferences too,

941
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 4>who knows.

942
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the uh you know Akusco the labyrinth that they

943
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 6>just found, you know that they've known about this for

944
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.320
<v Speaker 6>over one hundred years. They shit on a scientist about

945
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 6>twenty years ago, a scientists because he was attached to

946
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.239
<v Speaker 6>the Catholic Church and he was coming in saying, hey,

947
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 6>there's a labyrinth under there. We found it with this

948
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 6>ground printer training radar. They told him he was crazy.

949
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Brian Forrester's got videos of it from ten years ago.

950
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.519
<v Speaker 6>You you can go, you could go fifty years ago

951
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 6>and hire a guide for you two bucks, and he'd

952
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 6>run year round under the place, right. It was well

953
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 6>documented by Garcelasso de la Vega. I'm sure I pronounced

954
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 6>that name perfectly. He was the Spanish Inca guy, was

955
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.400
<v Speaker 6>like a descendant of an inc and royalty mom and

956
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 6>a Spanish conquista door father. And so his accounts are

957
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 6>the best best that we have from that time. And

958
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 6>he describes the tunnels as like so scary that people

959
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 6>tie a rope to go in and they're frightening. Well,

960
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 6>it takes one hundred years, after five hundred years from

961
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 6>them before we finally find him. And then you know,

962
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.519
<v Speaker 6>twenty years after, one scientist is screaming, here they are

963
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 6>mainstream academy is like, okay, yeah, right here they are.

964
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.519
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I maybe I'm skeptical, or maybe I'm just cynical,

965
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 6>but there ain't no fucking way they were just stealing

966
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 6>shit either. They were looting it, taking every goddamn thing

967
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.639
<v Speaker 6>that ain't nailed down, anything that might be interesting. Run

968
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 6>metal detectors through there, the whole nine yards and then

969
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 6>they're like, okay, yeah, open to the public. We've got

970
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 6>every every shred of everything. Knock yourselves out. Check out

971
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 6>this cool tunnel. Let's get some more money. Yeah, I

972
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 6>mean those cover ups like with Parrakas, you know, the

973
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 6>skulls down there. Rockefeller bought four of them in the thirties,

974
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.519
<v Speaker 6>paid forty thousand dollars, and he displayed them in the MET.

975
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 6>He displayed them in the National History Museum in New

976
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 6>York City, and he repatriated them apparently to Peru later on.

977
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.239
<v Speaker 6>And well, the proving government they don't know which ones

978
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 6>they are, you know, they just we just jumble fuck

979
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 6>those in with the rest of the skulls. Who knows

980
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:56.039
<v Speaker 6>photographs of them being displayed in the MET or the

981
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 6>National History Museum are non existed. Photographs of those skulls

982
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 6>are non exists. Is that you can't see when there's

983
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 6>like six hundred or so bundles, if memory serves down

984
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 6>in Peru, of these graves with elongated skulls, these grave bundles,

985
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 6>Rockefeller cherry picked four. Those are the four I want

986
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 6>to see. Those are the four I can't see. And

987
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 6>they're trying just the idea that they were jumbled back

988
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 6>in with the rest is bullshit. I think what happened

989
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 6>was they never left New York City. They probably just

990
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 6>ended up in another collector's hands, like Rockefeller's like, we're gonna

991
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 6>repatriate these, and sty're just like send them, or maybe

992
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 6>Rockefeller just fucking kept them and pretended that one way

993
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 6>or another. There's some fuckery going on. And this happens

994
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:41.159
<v Speaker 6>so often with just anything that's interesting or cool. When

995
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 6>he really gets to the point where you're like, I

996
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 6>wonder what's going on with that? Sorry, can't can't look

997
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 6>a second time, buddy, nothing to see here. Even the

998
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 6>cocaine mummies, they won't let anybody access him a second time.

999
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 6>It's like this, So you end up with the skeptics.

1000
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 6>You're going, well, you know, if they won't let us

1001
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 6>look a second time, God damn it. Everything very true

1002
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 6>and it's gone.

1003
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's that old meme. But it seems like

1004
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:12.039
<v Speaker 4>any supernatural object gets treated with supernatural irresponsibility, like how

1005
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 4>could you be that stupid? Well maybe that was the

1006
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 4>point exactly. It's so it's so frustrating too. You see,

1007
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.760
<v Speaker 4>the more like can say, the more supernatural it is,

1008
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the less likely it is to be treated with any

1009
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.400
<v Speaker 4>sort of actual reverence or anything cool at all. It's

1010
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 4>it's frustrating, but it is. It's indicative of the kind

1011
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.360
<v Speaker 4>of the kind of way they look at I mean

1012
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 4>the term pyramidy, which I love that term, but it's

1013
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's very insulting, and it's it's old.

1014
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1015
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 6>It's been around for like one hundred years. They call

1016
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 6>the people pyramid in a very long time, so they

1017
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 6>don't again, we got those to go back to the

1018
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.199
<v Speaker 6>Einstein metaphor, we got our dreamers and our skeptics are

1019
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 6>no longer holding hands and seeing kumbaya in any meanful

1020
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.880
<v Speaker 6>sense at all. And so this is humanity basically cutting

1021
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 6>its brain and half. It's like, ah, well, fucking let

1022
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 6>the art. Let the artists do their thing, and let

1023
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 6>the skeptics do there is And it's like, well, that's

1024
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 6>not how we conquered this planet, is it. That's not

1025
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 6>how we got mantled the moon? Is it? We had

1026
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 6>some dreamers like fucking you will be cool. We put

1027
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 6>some dumb mess up on that rock, and then he

1028
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 6>get skeptics like a fuck me, really, this is what

1029
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 6>I got to figure out now.

1030
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.559
<v Speaker 4>Okay, right, right, But you know that that's sort of

1031
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.000
<v Speaker 4>the goal is if you could limit the imagination, then

1032
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:32.639
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to go out there and dig this

1033
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 4>stuff up, and you don't have to question these long

1034
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 4>held beliefs and all the rest of the stuff. It

1035
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 4>sort of bolsters the power structure as it sits in

1036
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 4>place today. So I think your work with the the

1037
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 4>elongated skulls from up and up in the north or

1038
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:53.719
<v Speaker 4>northwest was really fascinating. I remember watching your presentation at

1039
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 4>that conference, just sitting on the edge of my seat.

1040
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I had no idea they had elongated skulls

1041
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.440
<v Speaker 4>up there. I'm sure everybodybody else doesn't either. But you know,

1042
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 4>this was like a widespread Pacific rim type, you know,

1043
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 4>all the way up and down the coast. They had

1044
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 4>this sort of headbinding or elongated school tradition.

1045
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it was all around the coast. And that's

1046
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.719
<v Speaker 6>this is being removed from history right now too. Like

1047
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 6>I think I've got them volunte here and pull them up.

1048
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 6>They they have, They've they straight up. I've deleted a

1049
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.679
<v Speaker 6>lot of these the map side of these things. On

1050
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 6>the maps, they are deleting the things as we speak.

1051
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 6>Basically it's happening in real time, and it's really frustrating

1052
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 6>because sorry, I'm trying to find us at the same time,

1053
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 6>it's like if you look for uh, maybe I don't

1054
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.599
<v Speaker 6>have it on my desktop. Sorry, if you here's one, yes, okay,

1055
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 6>this right here is a more modern one. This This

1056
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 6>is a map of the distribute of artificial cranial deformation.

1057
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 6>And this was done. That map right there was done

1058
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 6>in like twenty sixteen. And as you can see, the

1059
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 6>people here of the Americas is that red line. All

1060
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 6>those orange spots are places where artificial cranial deformation is

1061
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:21.320
<v Speaker 6>a thing, right And this map is like way, way,

1062
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.440
<v Speaker 6>way less detailed than the one from nineteen thirty six

1063
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:30.239
<v Speaker 6>or so so much so much less detail. And this

1064
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 6>happens like Hawaii, for example. On that one's been removed

1065
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 6>where Hawaii is well known. I mean, if you can

1066
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.119
<v Speaker 6>Google it right now and they'll tell you that Hawaii

1067
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 6>is one of the places that you'll find elongated skulls from. Yeah,

1068
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't have the other one on my desktop right now. Sorry.

1069
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 6>Nui is another one where if you look at the

1070
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 6>island of Nui, it's considered you look at on Google

1071
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 6>and it'll say, oh no, there is no elongated schools

1072
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 6>that it'll have ever been on the island of NEWI.

1073
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 6>But then if you like start doing some reading and stuff,

1074
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.480
<v Speaker 6>you'll find out that not only were there elongated skulls,

1075
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:12.000
<v Speaker 6>there there was one that was ninety six percent as

1076
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 6>wide as it is tall, which I mean, that's some

1077
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 6>Stewie Griffith looking shit right there to think about it.

1078
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 6>No pictures of it available, no pictures at all. But yeah,

1079
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure I got it's it's insane. It's like

1080
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 6>it's insane. Just how yeah, Okay, here's the here we

1081
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 6>got the island of NEWI where it says that we

1082
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.079
<v Speaker 6>do this is a school at n c I of

1083
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 6>ninety six point three is the percentage basically ninety six

1084
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 6>percent as wide as it is tall. And if you

1085
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:55.400
<v Speaker 6>go and look through uh, go on Gemini and look

1086
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:59.599
<v Speaker 6>on there, well you'll find that there is no artificially

1087
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 6>modified still coming from NEWI. And if you take it,

1088
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.079
<v Speaker 6>any reason is it's not crawling that page. But if

1089
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 6>you take take a screenshot of that of that page

1090
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 6>and then put it on your phone and your fucking phones,

1091
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 6>I all crawl it. Just fine. It's this is, and

1092
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.000
<v Speaker 6>it's the maps are being reduced, the amount of people

1093
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 6>the places where it's happened is being reduced. The Internet's

1094
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 6>slowly erasing these things, and access to photographs or even

1095
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 6>drawings are gone. And it's it's it's it's fuckery. I mean,

1096
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 6>also put it you look at how how widespread it

1097
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:36.360
<v Speaker 6>was all across the coastal regions. It's like, well, gee,

1098
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 6>ancient seafaring civilization anyone. I mean, it's it seems so

1099
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 6>so patently obvious, and that's why they have to And

1100
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:48.079
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why they care. I really don't know

1101
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 6>why they care that much about some ancient skulls, but

1102
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 6>they sure as fuck do.

1103
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think it is with the Obviously

1104
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>something with location. If it's always on the coast, right, I.

1105
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.119
<v Speaker 6>Think it was. I mean that, yeah, it's they were

1106
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 6>in contact. That would be the first thing, right, something

1107
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 6>bump around the coast. I mean, if you bump around

1108
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 6>the coast of the world, it's not going to be

1109
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 6>that hard to circumnavigate the globe. Besides fighting with people

1110
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.840
<v Speaker 6>along the way. It's if you stay on the coast,

1111
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:15.800
<v Speaker 6>you knew all right for the most part.

1112
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point.

1113
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's how they think to the America is if

1114
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:26.440
<v Speaker 6>you've ever heard of the Kelp Highway hypothesis, it's basically

1115
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 6>that they came instead of crossing the burying land bridge

1116
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 6>to get to the America's, they just jumped down on

1117
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 6>the coast with boats. And that's why you've got stuff

1118
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 6>down in New Mexico through thirty thousand years old, in

1119
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.440
<v Speaker 6>South America thirty thousand years ago, because it's a lot

1120
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 6>easier to travel by boat than it is overland. So

1121
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 6>what would have taken thousands of years by overland migration

1122
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 6>could be done in twenty years. Your boat.

1123
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Is absolutely anything else that the only one gated skills

1124
00:59:59.000 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to talk about.

1125
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:12.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's the amount of the amount of structures that

1126
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:17.119
<v Speaker 6>you see alongside of them is quite often compelling. It

1127
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.800
<v Speaker 6>it's telling. It's like you see these megalithic architecture quite often,

1128
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.159
<v Speaker 6>not always, but quite often in places where they are,

1129
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 6>and then you get up to the Americas and you

1130
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.960
<v Speaker 6>don't see those megaliths, but there is there's rumors. Man.

1131
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 6>You talk to the old timers around here and they

1132
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.400
<v Speaker 6>tell you stories that their dads told them and stuff

1133
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:41.079
<v Speaker 6>and there's all kinds of goofy things that I'm going

1134
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 6>to go check it out, Like one area for sure.

1135
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 6>There are three areas that I might be that I

1136
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 6>want to have access to you next time I go.

1137
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 6>One of them is an area where it looks like

1138
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.039
<v Speaker 6>there was an old structure and stuff. Local paintings and

1139
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 6>stuff show this structure, and then a Google satellite image

1140
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.880
<v Speaker 6>shows that there's a square left there, so we're gonna

1141
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 6>go check that out. There's also supposedly a bunch of

1142
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 6>ancient tunnels under the town of Longview, So some of

1143
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 6>that it might just be people confusing, you know, infrastructure

1144
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:17.440
<v Speaker 6>and bomb shelters, who knows so, but I've got potentially

1145
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 6>got access to those. So and then the one other

1146
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 6>thing that I'm going to check out next time I'm

1147
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.000
<v Speaker 6>over there, which I'm so skeptical of, but we'll see

1148
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 6>if it pans out. Somebody's claiming that they know where

1149
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 6>Mel's Hole is. If any of you guys have ever

1150
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 6>heard of Mel's Hole, So every time anybody ever goes

1151
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 6>to look for it, they always come back say, fucking

1152
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, man, I can't I don't think it's real.

1153
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to go take a look. We'll see

1154
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.440
<v Speaker 6>if this is just you know, somebody wants to get

1155
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 6>on my channel for fifteen minutes and then I'll have

1156
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 6>to dig a hole of shove them. And if that's

1157
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 6>the case, but it's not, I created it. What's your name,

1158
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:59.480
<v Speaker 6>it's fucking Mel now because that's Mel's hole. But yeah,

1159
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 6>we'll see. And they are the megalithic stuff, the the

1160
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 6>the markings like a you guys probably know the condolabra

1161
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 6>of the andes that big big ground. Uh, it's a

1162
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 6>big it's like the Nosca lines, except the geoglyph there

1163
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 6>is a word. It looks like it looks like a condolabra,

1164
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:26.119
<v Speaker 6>right and kind of like a burning steak. And uh,

1165
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 6>it's huge, and it's visible from about twelve miles out

1166
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 6>to sea, and it's like five miles from where those

1167
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 6>skulls were all located in Prague. So if if you

1168
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.320
<v Speaker 6>assumed that there was connection between this culture that, like

1169
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 6>I showed you on the map where they could have

1170
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.400
<v Speaker 6>been jumping all over the place, that condolabra is a

1171
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.519
<v Speaker 6>pretty good, you know, old school kind of lighthouse. Hey, guys,

1172
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 6>put put park your park. Your weird skulled asses over

1173
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.880
<v Speaker 6>here and we'll trade, right. So a lot of those

1174
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 6>kinds of things you end up I end up looking

1175
01:02:56.519 --> 01:03:01.960
<v Speaker 6>at and thinking that, you know, we have signs even

1176
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 6>now with DNA. It's so funny because when first of

1177
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 6>the first Ancient Apocalypse comes out, all the skeptics are like, well,

1178
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:09.599
<v Speaker 6>you need DNA to prove any of this, And now

1179
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 6>it's like, Easter Island has DNA from South America, no question.

1180
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 6>There's Polynesian DNA in South America, and there's South America

1181
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.000
<v Speaker 6>DNA and Polynesia. These guys knew each other. They might

1182
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 6>not know each other all the time, but they definitely

1183
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.760
<v Speaker 6>were in contact enough that we can find traces of

1184
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:29.960
<v Speaker 6>it today. So you know, we really need to look

1185
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 6>at things a lot differently. You know, thor Hairdahl was

1186
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 6>demonized for implying that there was a connection between South

1187
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 6>America and Easter Island, and now it's like that's standard archaeological,

1188
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 6>accepted scientific fact.

1189
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 5>It reminds me of something headless in Ricardo and I

1190
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 5>have been discussing, mainly Ricardo's direction on how that there's

1191
01:03:56.079 --> 01:04:01.079
<v Speaker 5>this massive amount of copper that couldn't have been mined

1192
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 5>from the Old world that had to seemingly one could

1193
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 5>deduce that there was so much copper that a lot

1194
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:10.679
<v Speaker 5>of it had to have come from the New World,

1195
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 5>and that they've spent a lot of time hiding connections

1196
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:21.119
<v Speaker 5>of seafaring groups, maybe because of the restriction on resources

1197
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.440
<v Speaker 5>and the and the you know, benefit that one can

1198
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.679
<v Speaker 5>get by having this knowledge of where to get the

1199
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 5>copper and so forth. So I wonder if that is

1200
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 5>maybe connected to maybe why they might want to eliminate

1201
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 5>the idea of seafaring groups.

1202
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:42.119
<v Speaker 6>That may may well be it. Maybe that could well

1203
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:46.280
<v Speaker 6>be associated the copper mining stuff. Is always interesting to

1204
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.920
<v Speaker 6>me because it's one of those situations where you'll see

1205
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:52.039
<v Speaker 6>them make all these estimates. You've got, you know, modern

1206
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.360
<v Speaker 6>geologists that will make massive estimates on you know, what

1207
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 6>came out of the hole in the ground in YadA YadA.

1208
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 6>But then you start asking questions like how much copper

1209
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 6>and it's like, well, we don't know well enough to

1210
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 6>say whether or not and how much copper came out

1211
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 6>of the New World. We don't really know enough to

1212
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.320
<v Speaker 6>say a whole lot, and they get really vague with it.

1213
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:15.760
<v Speaker 6>Because I looked into that when I did my video

1214
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 6>on the copper culture, and I was surprised that, like

1215
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 6>the debunking of it is pretty much non existent. Yeah,

1216
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:29.639
<v Speaker 6>it's but it is super weak and there's a real

1217
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 6>problem there. It's like some of those some of those artifacts,

1218
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.119
<v Speaker 6>to me, like when I look at some of those artifacts,

1219
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 6>I see clear uh like meso American influence, and that's

1220
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 6>accepted in certain parts, Like you go down to the south,

1221
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 6>they'll say, oh, yeah, these ones are probably part of

1222
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 6>West Virginia, and those mounds, oh yeah, these were probably

1223
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.320
<v Speaker 6>part of you know, influenced by meso American stuff. And

1224
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 6>then it's like, okay, but you look at the similarities

1225
01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.039
<v Speaker 6>between this conical mound where they buried a bunch of

1226
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.800
<v Speaker 6>dudes in it was one central burial like of royalty,

1227
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 6>then like the Mexican pyramids, which they'll tell you were

1228
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.880
<v Speaker 6>ceremonial centers, but most of them also had one royal

1229
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.639
<v Speaker 6>burial in the center of them, and then in the

1230
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 6>Old World where a lot of the pyramids were used

1231
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 6>for burials as well. It's like, I mean, yeah, you

1232
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 6>can say that pyramids are just the easiest way to

1233
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 6>stack rocks, but why is it that everybody wants to

1234
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 6>stack rocks on top of their body instead of burying

1235
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 6>it underneath or it gets, it gets and attached to

1236
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 6>very specific ideas about the soul. They return to what

1237
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 6>Brandon would say, which again is why I think the

1238
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:40.559
<v Speaker 6>esoteric stuff has value even if you don't believe in

1239
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 6>any of the spiritual aspects of it. You can see

1240
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.320
<v Speaker 6>the connections. You can understand where somebody else is coming from.

1241
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 6>And these these connections are across the world's there is

1242
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 6>clear connections across the world in iconography and in ideology.

1243
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, they don't want to deal with that. I

1244
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 6>don't know if it comes from old school races them

1245
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 6>and then they just like in the modern day, they

1246
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 6>just don't you know, they don't want to completely refine

1247
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 6>the old framework because I mean, if you read the

1248
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.440
<v Speaker 6>papers from one hundred and fifty two hundred years ago,

1249
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.360
<v Speaker 6>quite often there what's the evidence for this rock being

1250
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 6>from a Viking origin? Well, dumb engine can't carve rock,

1251
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 6>That's the whole fucking argument. It's like, what the fuck

1252
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 6>these guys are here making arrowheads out of rock and

1253
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 6>you don't think they could scratch a line on one?

1254
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 6>What the fuck is wrong with you people? And that

1255
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 6>was so that's quite possible that that's where all this

1256
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 6>stuff came from. Of like this whole the idea of

1257
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 6>these people being separated, and they couldn't have possibly had giants.

1258
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:42.159
<v Speaker 6>There are people taller than us. They couldn't have possibly

1259
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 6>have helped inform the Bronze Age. Are you kidding? These

1260
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 6>guys were over there and butt flaps we were having

1261
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 6>the Bronze Age. They're backwards, so there are heathens. So yeah,

1262
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 6>I thought that's quite possible.

1263
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:57.039
<v Speaker 4>I think if you look at the formation of the

1264
01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 4>country and you look at how obsessed the founding others

1265
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.679
<v Speaker 4>were with mounds, digging them up, finding artifacts within them,

1266
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 4>and then when we find, oh, a farmer dug one

1267
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 4>up and it's got this certificate of ownership in the

1268
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 4>middle of this mound. So you know, if you look

1269
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 4>at the Scythians and their burial grounds, that was their

1270
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 4>holy site, that was their holy property. And when you

1271
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 4>think of all of these mounds as being markers of

1272
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.600
<v Speaker 4>holy property, then it gets into a real estate debate.

1273
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.000
<v Speaker 4>And they don't want to have that real estate debate,

1274
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.560
<v Speaker 4>so they're not digging these things up to find out

1275
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 4>what's really in them, because if you do that, you

1276
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:37.079
<v Speaker 4>might find the owners and you don't want to do that.

1277
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.920
<v Speaker 4>So you know they're not going to be passing on

1278
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:41.760
<v Speaker 4>this land to anybody else, that's for sure.

1279
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, they've destroyed the ones that they destroyed, like

1280
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 6>so many of them. It's ridiculous. Like Saint Louis was

1281
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.239
<v Speaker 6>known as Mound City originally, and they just raised the ball,

1282
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 6>just flattened it all out. But by the time you

1283
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.560
<v Speaker 6>get over here to the west coast, the when a

1284
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 6>lot of these places were being settled and stuff, in

1285
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.600
<v Speaker 6>the early nineteen hundreds, a lot of these cities were

1286
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:09.960
<v Speaker 6>being built, there was already laws against You couldn't just

1287
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.359
<v Speaker 6>go in and destroy a Native American site like you

1288
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 6>could one hundred years before, even fifty years before. So

1289
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.439
<v Speaker 6>a lot of these sites were protected. And as a

1290
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.680
<v Speaker 6>result of that, it's one of those that disconnect that

1291
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 6>white collar folk often have from the blue collar world.

1292
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 6>Oh you know, we'll pass this law, and it's going

1293
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:31.840
<v Speaker 6>to stop people from from, you know, destroying indigenous sites.

1294
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.560
<v Speaker 6>It's like, no, it's going to facilitate it. I'll give

1295
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.079
<v Speaker 6>you a perfect example. If you're I have a friend

1296
01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 6>that worked in a mine in Tennessee, worked in a

1297
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 6>I think it was a coal mine even but he

1298
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 6>was told if he saw arrowheads, any artifacts, you just

1299
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.640
<v Speaker 6>put in your fucking pocket and get it out of there,

1300
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 6>because they'll shut the whole goddamn operation down. So same

1301
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:54.319
<v Speaker 6>kind of thing here. It's like there's areas where there's

1302
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.920
<v Speaker 6>one spot that I Native Americans had about three thousand

1303
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.680
<v Speaker 6>elongated skull burial on it when Lewis and Clark came through.

1304
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 6>Then a dude came through about ten years later, and

1305
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.079
<v Speaker 6>when he came through, his men had a camping fire

1306
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:13.000
<v Speaker 6>that accidentally burnt the place and he lost all those

1307
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:16.399
<v Speaker 6>burials and stuff. They're just gone now. And then a

1308
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:21.079
<v Speaker 6>gravel company slowly mined that thing away and nobody everybody

1309
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:22.640
<v Speaker 6>was trying to buy it from him. They wouldn't sell.

1310
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 6>Oh we got this quality basalt here, and there's basalt

1311
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:27.520
<v Speaker 6>all over the region. It's fallen off the hills, but

1312
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:31.279
<v Speaker 6>they raised it all the way to the ground. And

1313
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.039
<v Speaker 6>you can't even still go stand where that thing was now.

1314
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:36.359
<v Speaker 6>And if you look at pictures of it, it looks

1315
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:38.640
<v Speaker 6>kind of like gananng pudang, how it's like natural, but

1316
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:41.840
<v Speaker 6>parts of it look artificial, like modified.

1317
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 1>And so.

1318
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:47.359
<v Speaker 6>Again, you know, I think that by the time people

1319
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:51.479
<v Speaker 6>got over here and anything that they saw and that

1320
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 6>the laws were going to stand between them, we just

1321
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.600
<v Speaker 6>get rid of it and then carry on. But you

1322
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 6>know that's one of those you know, I get you

1323
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 6>pass a lot. It's it's gonna change everything, right, no

1324
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 6>changes nothing. It actually makes it worse.

1325
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you add on to kind of what you

1326
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:10.359
<v Speaker 2>guys are just saying about how they come in and

1327
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.159
<v Speaker 2>they shut shit down when they find things like the

1328
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 2>arrowheads and things like that. I'm not going to tell

1329
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.720
<v Speaker 2>you where I'm at, but what's nearby me is an

1330
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:20.319
<v Speaker 2>area where they're create where they've dug a bunch of

1331
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:25.119
<v Speaker 2>shit up, and they have found not only tons of old.

1332
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 7>Arrowheads, but they've also found.

1333
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Old bison that are not only a fat like, not

1334
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 2>only like they're extinct and been extinct for thousands of

1335
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.039
<v Speaker 2>years that they know of, as well as they've found

1336
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.720
<v Speaker 2>old cooking sites and what is it called the hearth

1337
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.800
<v Speaker 2>old hearths one of them is from a fifteen hundred

1338
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.239
<v Speaker 2>years ago and the other one is from three thousand

1339
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.159
<v Speaker 2>years ago that they've dated that back to.

1340
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 7>And what is it the Army rangers.

1341
01:11:57.640 --> 01:11:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is, the military, They come in and they

1342
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 2>took all that shit and they just left and they

1343
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't bring it up to anybody in my area. And

1344
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the reason I know about it is because I know

1345
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 2>how to make people talk. So it's one of those

1346
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.399
<v Speaker 2>fascinating things to hear it said, and I'm all, like

1347
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:15.760
<v Speaker 2>are you They're like, don't tell.

1348
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:17.960
<v Speaker 7>Anybody, and so I'm like, I'm not telling anybody right now.

1349
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 2>But it's one of those fascinating things that it's like

1350
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:24.159
<v Speaker 2>they'll just come in and just take it. And it's

1351
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:26.680
<v Speaker 2>not even like a community can talk about these things

1352
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 2>to be all like, hey, we we think that you're

1353
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:33.239
<v Speaker 2>taking this from like farmland and different lands, Like why

1354
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole community should know that. Now you've found bison

1355
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 2>that are extinct in our area as well as arrowheads.

1356
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 7>And hold herd.

1357
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not just one, but two that are multi like

1358
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 2>not just hundreds of year old, but thousands of years old,

1359
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and then nobody knows about it. So like that's a

1360
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.840
<v Speaker 2>small area that I live in. Extrapolate that to the

1361
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:56.439
<v Speaker 2>fucking world, and now we understand that there's so much

1362
01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 2>hidden shit that they're just taking and locking away to

1363
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 2>do what with I don't you know, like I have

1364
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:04.840
<v Speaker 2>my own conspiracy theories on what they're doing with these

1365
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 2>things and why. But it's it's just I'm just adding

1366
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to the conversation about I completely agree, and it's like

1367
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.920
<v Speaker 2>arrowheads are one thing, but like herds and extinct bison

1368
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that no one's talking about. It's it's fucking it. It

1369
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 2>makes me irate. And not only that, but then you

1370
01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:24.239
<v Speaker 2>can go into I've talked to these people that are

1371
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:26.720
<v Speaker 2>around this area, that are working on this area, but

1372
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:31.760
<v Speaker 2>add the skin walker ideas to this thing that people

1373
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.640
<v Speaker 2>are seeing skin walkers, and this isn't just like white

1374
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 2>man sees skinwalker afraid, it's actual indigenous people around here

1375
01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 2>who are working on these sites who are like, no,

1376
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't They don't get out of their fucking cars

1377
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and their pickups. They actually will only speak through their

1378
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 2>telephones because they've seen shit in these areas that they're

1379
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 2>unwilling to now get out of their vehicles at night

1380
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:56.840
<v Speaker 2>in certain areas because of insert skinwalker here. And so

1381
01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:00.359
<v Speaker 2>it's the world is far stranger than anybody he ever

1382
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:01.399
<v Speaker 2>wants to understand.

1383
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.439
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, here in the States, you know, if there's

1384
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 6>some if they find something that they want to cover

1385
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.079
<v Speaker 6>up in the States, it's gotten a lot harder than

1386
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 6>it used to be because of the abiquity of phones

1387
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:14.479
<v Speaker 6>and stuff. But you know, traditionally here in the States,

1388
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.800
<v Speaker 6>the US Army Corps of Engineers or something, they come

1389
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 6>in and secret whatever it was way according to you

1390
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 6>know the reports. But that's the overseas Army, yeah, Corp

1391
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:28.359
<v Speaker 6>of Engineers. Yeah, but you go over overseas to most

1392
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.920
<v Speaker 6>of the places, or even here in South America, most

1393
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.640
<v Speaker 6>of the places where the cool shit is are so

1394
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:37.119
<v Speaker 6>fucking poor. I mean, if you look at what they

1395
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:40.720
<v Speaker 6>bought the Dead Sea scrolls for, it's like basically cheaper

1396
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:42.199
<v Speaker 6>than you could have bought a nuke for at the

1397
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 6>end of the Cold War, man, I mean, it was nothing,

1398
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:48.640
<v Speaker 6>like nothing. And it's the same thing with Sir Flinders

1399
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:52.239
<v Speaker 6>Petrie with he was he was buying so many artifacts

1400
01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 6>that he started limiting himself to like thirty scarabs a

1401
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.560
<v Speaker 6>year because he was buying His first year was like

1402
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 6>three thirteen hundred or something like that. People were just

1403
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:06.159
<v Speaker 6>bringing them artifact. As soon as those dudes started showing

1404
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.760
<v Speaker 6>up with money, and you got this poor third world

1405
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.800
<v Speaker 6>country and a bunch of first world rich motherfuckers, they

1406
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:14.479
<v Speaker 6>start throwing that money around it. Every single person that

1407
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.000
<v Speaker 6>knew any place that any of these artifacts might have

1408
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:22.079
<v Speaker 6>been started looking digging, and so provident Schmavenin's that's fucking toast.

1409
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:25.119
<v Speaker 6>They just sold the stuff. And again, archaeologist are a

1410
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.399
<v Speaker 6>bunch of fucking antiquitarians, that's really what they are. And

1411
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 6>this but yeah, so anyway, the secret stuff always easy

1412
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:36.479
<v Speaker 6>to You know where the bad Dad battery is right now? Right?

1413
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.439
<v Speaker 6>I mean neither it was stolen In two thousand and three,

1414
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 6>when the US Army comes in and kicks the shit

1415
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:46.159
<v Speaker 6>out of Iraq, there was a I mean the rumor

1416
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 6>is a bunch of alphabet boys went into the museum.

1417
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.279
<v Speaker 6>It was just like that's this, this, this and this,

1418
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.960
<v Speaker 6>but who knows it very well could have been anybody.

1419
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it doesn't even have to be a top

1420
01:15:55.319 --> 01:15:56.640
<v Speaker 6>down thing. All it would have had to have been

1421
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 6>was one rich dude say hey, I want the bag

1422
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:00.800
<v Speaker 6>Dad battery and steal some other it too. So nobody

1423
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:03.199
<v Speaker 6>knows exactly why, but just still you take all that.

1424
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 6>I'll give you one hundred grand, no problem.

1425
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:11.880
<v Speaker 4>And a lot of ways, well I was gonna say,

1426
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.680
<v Speaker 4>in a lot of ways, the blue collar communities, and

1427
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:18.159
<v Speaker 4>these poor communities don't realize how not standing up for

1428
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:22.159
<v Speaker 4>these antiquities and actually getting their you know, transparency that

1429
01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 4>they deserve leads to a lot more land management issues

1430
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.000
<v Speaker 4>because once they can start getting away with just spiriting

1431
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 4>things away in the middle of the night, they're going

1432
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:32.720
<v Speaker 4>to come for your land as well. They're going to

1433
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:34.880
<v Speaker 4>do that to you guys as well. It's it's not

1434
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:37.439
<v Speaker 4>just limited to the things you find in the ground,

1435
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it's also the ground itself. And we're seeing massive pressures

1436
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.079
<v Speaker 4>being put on rural communities based off of that reality.

1437
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:45.359
<v Speaker 7>He nailed it headless.

1438
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.680
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly attached to what I just saw talk about.

1439
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 2>In my area, they are doing that exact thing to

1440
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of old families that have lived on their

1441
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.680
<v Speaker 2>rural farms for a very long time, and because of

1442
01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:02.479
<v Speaker 2>certain groups of individuals and families that have more money

1443
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in the area want that land to do this thing. Now,

1444
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:08.439
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it's like, oh no, we're actually

1445
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:09.640
<v Speaker 2>going to buy that from.

1446
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:13.520
<v Speaker 7>You, because you know what, you don't own it, because.

1447
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:16.119
<v Speaker 2>That title deed of title is not actually applicable to

1448
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:18.199
<v Speaker 2>actually owning this area, and we can take it whenever

1449
01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 2>we want, and these families have gotten kicked out of

1450
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:24.960
<v Speaker 2>their land just because of wanting to do whatever it

1451
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 2>is that they want to do in that area, you know,

1452
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 2>and then and then get federal grants because of it's

1453
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 2>going to make things better, you know whatever that means.

1454
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Right, That's all that trees ended up on. Go Beckley

1455
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Teppe was the guy they were taking. The government's like,

1456
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:40.920
<v Speaker 6>we're going to buy your land, and he's like, oh shit, well,

1457
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 6>you know what they pay X dollars per acre for desert?

1458
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:46.119
<v Speaker 6>You know how much they pay per orchard per acre

1459
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 6>for an orchard more plant some trees. Serious, That's exactly

1460
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:51.960
<v Speaker 6>how it went down. And then then they have to

1461
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:55.960
<v Speaker 6>turn around and root all the trees out. So yeah, man,

1462
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.319
<v Speaker 6>it's it's you know, a lot of times these things

1463
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:01.600
<v Speaker 6>have such like like people a lot of times look

1464
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:05.560
<v Speaker 6>at these really like overarching influence things and stuff on it,

1465
01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 6>and I understand why. But a lot of times the

1466
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:10.760
<v Speaker 6>impact can be just like right in your face on

1467
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:15.399
<v Speaker 6>a basic level. Like when I was in Scottsdale in December,

1468
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:17.800
<v Speaker 6>we were one of the questions when I was on

1469
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:20.239
<v Speaker 6>the panel with a bunch of guys from ancient Aliens

1470
01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:22.279
<v Speaker 6>and stuff and a bunch of cooler people than me.

1471
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:25.399
<v Speaker 6>And the question is, why do you think that they

1472
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:29.119
<v Speaker 6>haven't looked into that hidden chamber in the Great Pyramid.

1473
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:32.239
<v Speaker 6>Why hasn't that been excavated yet? And the answers are

1474
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:36.520
<v Speaker 6>that are coming before me was things like, you know,

1475
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.399
<v Speaker 6>the government has already looted all the stuff out of there,

1476
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:42.920
<v Speaker 6>They've already got the technology that there was to be taken, YadA, YadA.

1477
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:46.000
<v Speaker 6>By the time it gets to me, I point out

1478
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 6>that Zahi ha Was said that you know that no

1479
01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:53.239
<v Speaker 6>matter what bad is happening in Egypt, to those new

1480
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:57.119
<v Speaker 6>age people, they will come. He's talking about Arab spring

1481
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:01.359
<v Speaker 6>and the loss of tourism revenue and how the pyramids

1482
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.199
<v Speaker 6>just didn't give a fuck. They just kept showing up

1483
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 6>anyway if you they like. Worst case scenario potentially to

1484
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.520
<v Speaker 6>him is if they open up that chamber and they

1485
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.960
<v Speaker 6>find a body of a farrowh in there. Now, all

1486
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.159
<v Speaker 6>those Atlantis bros Are not going to show up anymore

1487
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 6>in his mind, right, And so it's this goose that

1488
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.159
<v Speaker 6>led to Golden egg scenario. This thing right now is

1489
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.800
<v Speaker 6>making my country all kinds of fucking Almost ten percent

1490
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 6>of their GDP when things are going well. So yeah,

1491
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.319
<v Speaker 6>you don't want to get why why threaten that goose?

1492
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:33.439
<v Speaker 6>Just let it keep laying eggs, Just let it keep.

1493
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:38.399
<v Speaker 4>Strategic strategic ambiguity. It's the best selling point in the world.

1494
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:45.039
<v Speaker 6>It works. Oh man, sorry, my eyelash or something got

1495
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:46.960
<v Speaker 6>in my eye. I know, I'm crying about stuff like

1496
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:48.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm flinting dibble after the debate.

1497
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:52.520
<v Speaker 7>That's hilarious.

1498
01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's fascinating how we're talking on these

1499
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:59.800
<v Speaker 2>like small like small levels in big levels of like, uh,

1500
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.479
<v Speaker 2>people taking things and not telling other people about it.

1501
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 2>But then you get on these massive levels. Just think

1502
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:08.760
<v Speaker 2>about again, like you just said, what is all the

1503
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:11.119
<v Speaker 2>shit that they're taking and not telling us about the Pyramids,

1504
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:13.399
<v Speaker 2>about the Sphinx, about all these things, and then about

1505
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with like, Okay, we're getting this information

1506
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.720
<v Speaker 2>about these structures underneath the Sphinx and underneath the pyramids

1507
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and these things, but it's all about what is in

1508
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:24.279
<v Speaker 2>the unconscious mind of the human psyche is the same

1509
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.000
<v Speaker 2>things what's in the unconscious mind of our history.

1510
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:28.520
<v Speaker 7>And then where are these things going?

1511
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.560
<v Speaker 2>We know the Vatican has massive archives, you know where

1512
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>most of the things went with the fall of the

1513
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.640
<v Speaker 2>libraries of Alexandria as well as then when they went

1514
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 2>in their raid and the pyramids and the sphinxes, and

1515
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 2>so it's like it's a fallacy in and of itself

1516
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to think that what we're getting is the truth, the

1517
01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.520
<v Speaker 2>whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So it's like,

1518
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:53.279
<v Speaker 2>why is it so outrageous then to add the esoteric,

1519
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the mythological and the symbolic understanding of these things. It's

1520
01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:00.359
<v Speaker 2>only outrageous because that then we have to change our

1521
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 2>society as a whole and how we understand how to

1522
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:07.239
<v Speaker 2>live as a human because then they can't get us

1523
01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:11.079
<v Speaker 2>chasing in this bread and circus rat race about weapons

1524
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.880
<v Speaker 2>of mass destruction here or there, and what the Somalis

1525
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 2>are doing, these pirates in these places. And you know,

1526
01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.920
<v Speaker 2>like all this bread and circuses is wild when it

1527
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:24.079
<v Speaker 2>comes down to it that right now, Pallenteer is building

1528
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:28.119
<v Speaker 2>a whole grid system around us, So then you don't

1529
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:31.760
<v Speaker 2>ever ask these questions as a robot named Plato is

1530
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:35.479
<v Speaker 2>going to teach our kids in all the schools, and

1531
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 2>so it's like this fascinating meta analysis of trying to

1532
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 2>understand what's going on in our ancient past when it's

1533
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:46.359
<v Speaker 2>continually being rewritten at all times, It's like, I don't

1534
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what are we doing here?

1535
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you said a lot of things there definitely are

1536
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 6>definitely seen our pastor written in real time. There's no

1537
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:03.239
<v Speaker 6>question there. Again, the esoteric stuff can get a lot

1538
01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 6>tougher to incorporate on a scientific level because you've got,

1539
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 6>you know, to use the classicist atheist argument is Who's

1540
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:13.880
<v Speaker 6>God do we go with? Right? Like, if you if

1541
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:18.079
<v Speaker 6>you take and ask five hundred people in our community

1542
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:20.359
<v Speaker 6>what they think the pyramids were used for, you're gonna

1543
01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:24.279
<v Speaker 6>get about three hundred and fifty different answers. So coming

1544
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:32.039
<v Speaker 6>in with a so we esoteric esoterica and similar, you know,

1545
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:36.039
<v Speaker 6>anything that's that's spiritual is going to put itself in

1546
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:39.479
<v Speaker 6>a spot that isn't you know, isn't falsifiable, isn't verifiable,

1547
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:43.479
<v Speaker 6>and therefore will always be subjects to endless debates. Right,

1548
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:47.439
<v Speaker 6>and that faith based thing again, it's like, so you're

1549
01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:49.319
<v Speaker 6>gonna have these guys are never going to want to

1550
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:52.000
<v Speaker 6>invest in that. Now, as far as the bread and

1551
01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:56.199
<v Speaker 6>circuses shit goes, Yeah, I don't think and think that's

1552
01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:59.319
<v Speaker 6>ever gonna stop as long as humans are in a

1553
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:03.359
<v Speaker 6>meat suit. It's part of the it's part of the

1554
01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 6>human condition we are. We have this ability to see lofty,

1555
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.760
<v Speaker 6>to dream of perfection and to imagine a world with

1556
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:14.640
<v Speaker 6>no pain and no sin and no whatever. But then we,

1557
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:16.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, go take a dump and have to eat

1558
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 6>something that used to walk and they man, she's kind

1559
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 6>of hot too. We do all these things that are

1560
01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:24.560
<v Speaker 6>just so basic that at the same time it's it's

1561
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:30.039
<v Speaker 6>even it gets very difficult for humans to move past

1562
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:35.359
<v Speaker 6>things like and and we're easily distracted, like all they

1563
01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:37.600
<v Speaker 6>have to do in order to demonize an entire movement,

1564
01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:39.680
<v Speaker 6>Like I mentioned it when I was on Rogan that

1565
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:44.039
<v Speaker 6>you know how the Internet feeds feeds us the most interesting,

1566
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:48.760
<v Speaker 6>the craziest stuff, the most outlandish. The transgender people that

1567
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 6>are working at Subway and just making a sandwich and

1568
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:53.439
<v Speaker 6>just trying to get through their day. We don't ever

1569
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.479
<v Speaker 6>hear about those with that transgender person that went into

1570
01:23:56.520 --> 01:24:00.399
<v Speaker 6>game stop kicking shit around screaming it's ma'am, well fucking

1571
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:03.880
<v Speaker 6>all saw that. And so this is a real easy

1572
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:07.199
<v Speaker 6>this it's easy sigh op shit, and it's never ever

1573
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:09.920
<v Speaker 6>ever gonna stop. I mean as long as magicians can

1574
01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.199
<v Speaker 6>play slide of hand games. As long as that fucking

1575
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:14.800
<v Speaker 6>free card moni works, this kind of shit is gonna

1576
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 6>be a problem, and even more so because we social

1577
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:22.359
<v Speaker 6>media has made us fucking socially so so thick, and

1578
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 6>so it's this or it's that I can't. I had

1579
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:28.720
<v Speaker 6>somebody tell me not to body shame people because I

1580
01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 6>was calling Professor Dave Tubby. It's like, if you had

1581
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 6>the fucking words to come out of that man's mouth,

1582
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 6>that fat piece of shit. Fuck. Yeah, I'll call it

1583
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.000
<v Speaker 6>way worse than that, but oh don't body shit. Was

1584
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:42.560
<v Speaker 6>like that gives one size fits all rules.

1585
01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Great, yeah, yeah, And it goes down to myself. Is

1586
01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:49.479
<v Speaker 2>what I'm constantly trying to push. My propaganda that I'm

1587
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to push is become your own magician, and that's

1588
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the only way to counteract the sorcery of the dark ones.

1589
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's exactly then what is being hidden

1590
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:06.079
<v Speaker 2>the academic institution and the material scientific materialists is that

1591
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:09.239
<v Speaker 2>we are our own magician, King lover warriors, and I

1592
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>think the big sigh ofp of this no King's nonsense

1593
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>that's going on, which I then also agree that the

1594
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:20.800
<v Speaker 2>fucking global techno parasitic class are just that they're trying

1595
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>to raise themselves up as the higher Onunaki bloodline families.

1596
01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.479
<v Speaker 2>But the idea is that if instead of no kings,

1597
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>how about everyone become your own fucking king, everyone become

1598
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.680
<v Speaker 2>your own queen. It's I don't exactly, Judith. It's like,

1599
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand this nonsense.

1600
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:41.479
<v Speaker 7>I see. I want to figure out who's running.

1601
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>The Hermeticist pot the fucking website, because they're putting Alister

1602
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Crowley's image with an image of no king, and of

1603
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>all fucking people, who's telling us to become kings, it's

1604
01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Alister fucking Croley. And so if this guy's watching right now,

1605
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I hope he hears me and he can come at

1606
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:01.359
<v Speaker 2>me whenever he wants, because that's fucking and you're changing

1607
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>history again and making people believe that some fucking, some

1608
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>fucking nonsense of cult movement which is being produced by

1609
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the Walmart woman and these other old Ark technocrats are.

1610
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.279
<v Speaker 7>Trying to push this somewhere. It's like, what the fuck

1611
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:17.319
<v Speaker 7>is going on? And so sorry, I've been thinking about

1612
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:19.279
<v Speaker 7>this a lot, so this does not tell.

1613
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:22.439
<v Speaker 6>But I'm going to be doing it soon.

1614
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's like, if we all become warrior, magician kings,

1615
01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>then nobody can rule over us and then we're all stars.

1616
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.119
<v Speaker 7>That's like, I don't understand that.

1617
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:34.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what the Egyptians of the world are trying to teach,

1618
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and that's what the world trying to become pharaohs.

1619
01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Chief part of the yahe Vade formula, the king and

1620
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the queen.

1621
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, exactly, And that's why it's esoteric.

1622
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's why it's like they try to admonish us

1623
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and then make the occult bad. It's nonsense, because the

1624
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 2>occult just means hidden, and this shit is hidden for

1625
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>a reason because it's put in the hands of the

1626
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:56.319
<v Speaker 2>dark sorcerers and they don't want anyone else to know

1627
01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>about it because if you know about it, and then

1628
01:26:58.119 --> 01:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>you can't be controlled.

1629
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:02.960
<v Speaker 6>But when it comes to to sorcery and magic, and

1630
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:07.279
<v Speaker 6>that's some sort of stuff. There's one of my you guys,

1631
01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:10.399
<v Speaker 6>you guys recently see that fruitfly thing where they scanned

1632
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 6>the fruit fly's brain, they dumped it into the physics engine. Okay,

1633
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:18.479
<v Speaker 6>so so that gets in the whole thing of you know,

1634
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.920
<v Speaker 6>is this all is this all just a simulation. Are

1635
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:23.119
<v Speaker 6>we all living in a simulation like this fruit Fly?

1636
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.119
<v Speaker 6>And so here's here's my question. Here's here's my little weird,

1637
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:30.880
<v Speaker 6>weird idea, is if we were if this is a simulation,

1638
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:35.000
<v Speaker 6>it's been going on forever. You know, maybe magic was

1639
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:38.039
<v Speaker 6>just a shitty like, maybe there was just some shitty

1640
01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:40.199
<v Speaker 6>patches that needed to be made, and you just if

1641
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:42.800
<v Speaker 6>you like wiggled your finger in the right direction, jumped

1642
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:44.640
<v Speaker 6>up and down, you can clip through the wall and

1643
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:46.880
<v Speaker 6>fucking end the speed around of your video game Quicker.

1644
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.039
<v Speaker 6>And so they've patched it over the years. We still

1645
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:50.520
<v Speaker 6>have all these people telling us you got to do

1646
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:52.359
<v Speaker 6>this stuff, but you just keep running into the wall

1647
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:55.079
<v Speaker 6>now when you try. I could be wrong about that,

1648
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:58.399
<v Speaker 6>but I mean, you don't know. You know, that fruit

1649
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.600
<v Speaker 6>fly looked like he was fucking live in a pretty

1650
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 6>good life man, running around that Nintendo sixty four world.

1651
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Those elongated skulls make it very interesting resonance chambers, and

1652
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I think that's not something that science is ready to

1653
01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 4>deal with. But you know, maybe they were using them

1654
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.399
<v Speaker 4>as tools in some sort of way, and they did

1655
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.760
<v Speaker 4>have these things tuned to certain frequencies. So what are

1656
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.840
<v Speaker 4>we actually looking at when they're elongating a baby's skull.

1657
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.600
<v Speaker 4>That could be how they that's their position in life.

1658
01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's sort of how they determined these things

1659
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:31.479
<v Speaker 4>back then. So you're born into it.

1660
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that that isn't interesting that you mentioned that,

1661
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>because like one of the episodes that I have coming

1662
01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:39.279
<v Speaker 1>out where I get like more into like the whole

1663
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:42.119
<v Speaker 1>residence inside some of these like you know, massive structures.

1664
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>There was even stuff like academic stuff where he even

1665
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:48.359
<v Speaker 1>talked about like some of these places of vibration literally

1666
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>will affect like your skull and your bones, and like

1667
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what if there was like a certain key that you're

1668
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.239
<v Speaker 1>bad at of being to actually pick up that signal.

1669
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, just going crazy shit. But I mean again,

1670
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.319
<v Speaker 1>the resonance would be different on someone's fucking head like

1671
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:06.479
<v Speaker 1>that than ours.

1672
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:11.640
<v Speaker 4>And technically everybody's got a different residence for their for

1673
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>their own skulls, So how does that affect thought?

1674
01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, that's it's an interesting thing that, uh, the

1675
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:24.920
<v Speaker 6>Native Americans and all over the islands pretty much almost everywhere,

1676
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:30.479
<v Speaker 6>they believe that modifying your skull was like a good thing.

1677
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.000
<v Speaker 6>It made you smarter, it made you boring, tune with

1678
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:36.720
<v Speaker 6>the gods something it was. It was a good thing.

1679
01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:40.720
<v Speaker 6>It was done for positive reasons. But you know, we

1680
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.000
<v Speaker 6>can't test these sort of things today, which is kind

1681
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.560
<v Speaker 6>of bullshit. We should just clone some people and squish

1682
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 6>their skulls until we're happy with what we got. They

1683
01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:50.520
<v Speaker 6>got no fucking rights anyway. If their clones, we can

1684
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:52.479
<v Speaker 6>bang their feet while we're at it. How that works,

1685
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 6>Just do it all.

1686
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:56.399
<v Speaker 5>It's my clone.

1687
01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:57.720
<v Speaker 4>I can do what I want with them.

1688
01:29:58.399 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 6>Make it a clone of me, so we can harvest

1689
01:29:59.920 --> 01:30:01.760
<v Speaker 6>that fucker's organs to shot.

1690
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 7>I mean, that's a movie. That's that's that movie The Island.

1691
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:07.159
<v Speaker 7>If you haven't seen it, that's definitely there.

1692
01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>And so I don't know, man, that's a that's a

1693
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>tough that's a tough subject.

1694
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 6>I uh.

1695
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:14.399
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe you battle it out with your clone

1696
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and then whoever wins is the real person and then

1697
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>they get tested on.

1698
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:21.560
<v Speaker 6>Well, because my organs are all fucked up, my clone

1699
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:23.800
<v Speaker 6>is gonna be all like nice and fresh, no alcohol. Well,

1700
01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.560
<v Speaker 6>then it means that hour just yes, I just want

1701
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 6>to everybody know about about half an hour. I need

1702
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:31.039
<v Speaker 6>to get off here.

1703
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, I was gonna wrap it up, so just

1704
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>letting everybody know, so I don't just bag for you.

1705
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 5>I was wondering if you listen to the uh, for

1706
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 5>lack of a better term, the extraterrestrial alien mummies and.

1707
01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:50.760
<v Speaker 6>All the tridactyl ones a little bit.

1708
01:30:52.640 --> 01:30:56.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, this is yes, the tridactyls and so on.

1709
01:30:56.439 --> 01:31:00.439
<v Speaker 6>You yeah, Oh, they're interesting to me. It's it's the

1710
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.199
<v Speaker 6>problem with Peru again, like that we know that they

1711
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:05.760
<v Speaker 6>got a lot of corruption with the elongated skulls and

1712
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:08.680
<v Speaker 6>stuff already, and they're not letting many people put their

1713
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.039
<v Speaker 6>fingers on these. It's just kind of keeping them in

1714
01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:15.920
<v Speaker 6>house and generating revenue. So I end up being pretty

1715
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:21.239
<v Speaker 6>skeptical of those sorts of things. You know. Uh, it's

1716
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:26.800
<v Speaker 6>a very they I would like to see something like

1717
01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:29.319
<v Speaker 6>that be real, but it those do not look real

1718
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:33.119
<v Speaker 6>to me. They look they look fake, and the you

1719
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:36.079
<v Speaker 6>can't access them unless you're one of the cool kids

1720
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:40.000
<v Speaker 6>is a serious problem. That and that that always bothers

1721
01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:46.159
<v Speaker 6>me unfortunately, because like there's if if aliens have visited

1722
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:49.199
<v Speaker 6>Earth and we have mummies of them and stuff, they

1723
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:51.199
<v Speaker 6>would quite certainly be the kind of thing that would

1724
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.880
<v Speaker 6>be very valuable and you know, well preserved and stuffed

1725
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:59.079
<v Speaker 6>in some rich dude's closet or whatever. And it also

1726
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:01.399
<v Speaker 6>the kind of thing that some smoking mirrors. Bullshit like

1727
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:03.319
<v Speaker 6>this would make it a whole lot easier to move around,

1728
01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 6>to hide to you talk about and stuff, because nobody

1729
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:09.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's a slight of handshit again, Right, You

1730
01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:11.960
<v Speaker 6>convince everybody that you're stupid, and then all of a sudden,

1731
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.159
<v Speaker 6>you're pretty When you do something the least bit intelligence,

1732
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:16.119
<v Speaker 6>you're like, well, God, damn, that guy's a genius. No,

1733
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 6>you just thought I was stupid, same kind of thing,

1734
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.079
<v Speaker 6>So I I yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of anything that

1735
01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:23.600
<v Speaker 6>comes out of Peru that they don't. And it's not

1736
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:26.359
<v Speaker 6>because I hate Peru. It's just I've researched their archaeology

1737
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:28.199
<v Speaker 6>a lot. In Man old Man, old Man, old man

1738
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:31.359
<v Speaker 6>o man, fucking you go down there with fifty bucks

1739
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:33.239
<v Speaker 6>and you're gonna get some artifacts, buddy.

1740
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Colors of the past. I mean, he goes through all

1741
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.239
<v Speaker 4>of these sites that are completely undocumented and finds these

1742
01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.119
<v Speaker 4>huge cases full of bodies that have already been looted

1743
01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:44.840
<v Speaker 4>and all these other things, and it's just like he's

1744
01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:47.640
<v Speaker 4>just live streaming it out to the world. Show it everybody.

1745
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:50.039
<v Speaker 4>How poor the condition of all this stuff is down there.

1746
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:52.119
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, it's like the wild West. Of course,

1747
01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:54.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, you can come up with mummies of any sort.

1748
01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:58.399
<v Speaker 6>And then you have to wonder if it's because like

1749
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, you know, he's in trouble right now, all.

1750
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Right, I didn't hear about that.

1751
01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:05.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, he got accused of like rogue got accused

1752
01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:10.439
<v Speaker 6>of doing some bad stuff and uh like multiple women

1753
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:14.720
<v Speaker 6>accused him, and so I I don't know, you know,

1754
01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.359
<v Speaker 6>is it be is it true? Or is it to

1755
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:20.680
<v Speaker 6>silence this guy that's going and putting this dick skinners

1756
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.399
<v Speaker 6>where they don't belong. So it's it's this this kind

1757
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:26.319
<v Speaker 6>of stuff gets really tough that the fact of the

1758
01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:28.119
<v Speaker 6>matter is it's this is why was the reasons I

1759
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 6>scream about transparency. I should mention I talked my friend Timmy. Hey, Tim, Sorry,

1760
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:34.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't have the chat scrolling on the screen, so

1761
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:37.000
<v Speaker 6>I have to keep another tab open to go. Look.

1762
01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:39.079
<v Speaker 6>I apologize. He wants to know if I was going

1763
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:41.399
<v Speaker 6>to talk about, uh, the stuff in Turkey, because I've

1764
01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:44.840
<v Speaker 6>been making a big stink about this port CLIs they

1765
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 6>called they call him a portal porthole stones. There are

1766
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:55.039
<v Speaker 6>these big stones that have uh, I will have it

1767
01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.720
<v Speaker 6>on my thing already. There are these big stones that

1768
01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:05.640
<v Speaker 6>have uh. There's doors in him. Right. So this thing

1769
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:08.279
<v Speaker 6>here was dug up in twenty ten and they reburied

1770
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:11.279
<v Speaker 6>it shortly Thereafterwards they wrapped it in some plastic and

1771
01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 6>then they sifted the dirt, but they reburied it. They

1772
01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 6>did this. I came after Lee Claire on Twitter about

1773
01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:20.399
<v Speaker 6>this a couple of nights ago and asking him me,

1774
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:21.760
<v Speaker 6>Hey man, why the fuck are you guys doing this?

1775
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:24.279
<v Speaker 6>This is bad optics. Ultimately, this is bad optics. This

1776
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:26.880
<v Speaker 6>is a really cool looking artifact. You guys bury it

1777
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.720
<v Speaker 6>a you've had shits stolen from go Beckley tepe before

1778
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:33.479
<v Speaker 6>it was stolen out of the ground. Just bad optics.

1779
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:36.199
<v Speaker 6>And he just he told me I stupid, basically, And

1780
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:38.640
<v Speaker 6>so I ended up lighting him up like a Christmas tree, because,

1781
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:41.239
<v Speaker 6>like Nick said at the beginning, this you fucking deserve it, buddy,

1782
01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:44.000
<v Speaker 6>I got a shotgun here, I will use it and

1783
01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:46.800
<v Speaker 6>uh yeah, I splattered him all over the place for

1784
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:48.920
<v Speaker 6>a minute. But the reality of it is is stupid.

1785
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:52.399
<v Speaker 6>So you know, if you're gonna store things like this,

1786
01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:54.640
<v Speaker 6>you put him in your fucking but I told him

1787
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:56.039
<v Speaker 6>was you know, if I wanted to store something, I'd

1788
01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:58.159
<v Speaker 6>ask my sister if I could use a spot in

1789
01:34:58.159 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 6>her garage as opposed to bury it in the fuck.

1790
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:04.199
<v Speaker 6>But that's just me at any rate, there's two of

1791
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:07.000
<v Speaker 6>things like this. There's another one that's not quite as ornate,

1792
01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:09.880
<v Speaker 6>that's also buried at go Beckley Teppe. This is on

1793
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.800
<v Speaker 6>the Northwestern Mound, and then the other one's buried in

1794
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:16.600
<v Speaker 6>enclosure beef Memory Serves. And uh, yeah, I've got a video.

1795
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:19.199
<v Speaker 6>I just I'm in the process of editing it now,

1796
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Tim and everybody else and it should be up tonight

1797
01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:28.359
<v Speaker 6>or tomorrow. And yeah, it's ridiculous, man, it's ridiculous that

1798
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:33.720
<v Speaker 6>we it's you can't say that we don't have the

1799
01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:37.239
<v Speaker 6>room or something to store an artifact like this when

1800
01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:40.840
<v Speaker 6>the site is generating stupid amounts of money and you're

1801
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 6>building these big enclosures and whatnot. Pull the fucking thing

1802
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:46.880
<v Speaker 6>out of the ground and or build a little tarpover

1803
01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:49.720
<v Speaker 6>or whatever the hell you need to do. But leaving

1804
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:52.000
<v Speaker 6>it in the ground, to me, is a great way

1805
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:56.439
<v Speaker 6>to facilitate theft. And considering that we know that This

1806
01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 6>is a problem, especially in poorer nations. And now I

1807
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:02.159
<v Speaker 6>totally clear that if he got stolen out of the

1808
01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:04.279
<v Speaker 6>ground that I would I would blame him. But when

1809
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:06.159
<v Speaker 6>I was yelling at you mightn't realize that it was

1810
01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:09.920
<v Speaker 6>buried under claud Schmidt. So I would have to be

1811
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.640
<v Speaker 6>potentially yelling at Claude Schmidt, who's no longer with us.

1812
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:15.560
<v Speaker 6>But at any rate, burying artifacts in the ground is

1813
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.239
<v Speaker 6>a great way to facilitate theft. And they're like, oh,

1814
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:20.880
<v Speaker 6>but what's under CCTV footage nowadays, And I'm like, yes,

1815
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:22.880
<v Speaker 6>so was Epstein's cell didn't do him any fucking good,

1816
01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:28.359
<v Speaker 6>did it. I find that shit. Money fixes cameras really

1817
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:30.439
<v Speaker 6>quick or breaks cameras really quick. However, you want to

1818
01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:31.159
<v Speaker 6>look at it.

1819
01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Especially when you got little animal effigies that looks like

1820
01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:37.600
<v Speaker 4>right next to it, so you know that's like what

1821
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.640
<v Speaker 4>one hundred grand, hundred grand, hundred grand. You've just counting

1822
01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:43.319
<v Speaker 4>it up and make it all the estimates right there

1823
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:44.119
<v Speaker 4>from these pictures.

1824
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:48.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the thing that was stolen was a vulture headed

1825
01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:51.840
<v Speaker 6>stone that's disappeared around twenty ten. It was a vulture

1826
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:54.239
<v Speaker 6>headed It was like a human head with a vulture

1827
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:56.720
<v Speaker 6>head on top of it that came from a statue

1828
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.039
<v Speaker 6>Claus Schmidt was fined about. It came up to a

1829
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:02.800
<v Speaker 6>about ninety eight hundred US dollars was what it was

1830
01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:04.399
<v Speaker 6>at the time, and this is, you know, like two

1831
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:06.880
<v Speaker 6>thousand and six, actually I think it was. So there's

1832
01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:09.199
<v Speaker 6>a fairly substantial chunk of money, probably like twenty grand

1833
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:12.479
<v Speaker 6>or so nowadays, but still nothing compared to what that

1834
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:15.880
<v Speaker 6>thing sold for. So that's I mean, that could have

1835
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:17.960
<v Speaker 6>been a great cottage industry for him. Now I'm not

1836
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:22.399
<v Speaker 6>saying Clush did that. The problem is is this methodology

1837
01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:25.399
<v Speaker 6>allows for things to be stolen when they're in the

1838
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:28.840
<v Speaker 6>fucking museums. Shit don't disappear unless the US Army or

1839
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.720
<v Speaker 6>somebody rolls through, right then, yeah, then the museum's closed down.

1840
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:36.600
<v Speaker 6>But generally speaking, the days of cat burglars breaking in

1841
01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:39.119
<v Speaker 6>and using glass hutters to steal the jewels out of

1842
01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:41.359
<v Speaker 6>the little display case are fucking that's relegated to the

1843
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:44.520
<v Speaker 6>movies from fifty years ago. Man, the shit gets stolen

1844
01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:48.680
<v Speaker 6>when it's in the ground still, and the you don't

1845
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:51.119
<v Speaker 6>rob the you rob the armored car, not the bank,

1846
01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:53.680
<v Speaker 6>and ideally you rob the guy walking from the business

1847
01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.680
<v Speaker 6>to the car, right, this is this is no brainer. Shit,

1848
01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:59.119
<v Speaker 6>you get the stuff when it's easiest. But again, he's

1849
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.720
<v Speaker 6>white collar folks. It's to their credit in a lot

1850
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:03.680
<v Speaker 6>of ways. There a lot of are just they're just

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01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:06.960
<v Speaker 6>nice guys, don't fucking know any better. But because of that,

1852
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:09.560
<v Speaker 6>the ship heeled next to him that does know better

1853
01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 6>can pretend he's ignorant as fuck too and sell this

1854
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:17.840
<v Speaker 6>stuff on the black market. So anyway, rant over for

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01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:19.680
<v Speaker 6>a minute. Well do you have.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, real quick, do you have an idea of what

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01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:24.199
<v Speaker 5>them might be?

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01:38:25.439 --> 01:38:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's they think it was used for doorways for enclosures,

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01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Like they think maybe you were on top of the

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01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:34.920
<v Speaker 6>enclosures and like you would completely seal the enclosure from

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01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:36.560
<v Speaker 6>the ground and the only way in or out was

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01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:40.039
<v Speaker 6>from the top, or maybe they were just stood upright

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01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:42.319
<v Speaker 6>and they were the doorway to like a normal door.

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01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:44.600
<v Speaker 6>But this one's unique in the fact that it's too

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01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:49.039
<v Speaker 6>and it's pretty ornate. So it is the best example

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01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:51.319
<v Speaker 6>that we have found so far. Definitely, and they're pretty

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01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:53.399
<v Speaker 6>sure it was a ceremonial type of gig on this one.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is some good to me, it seems like

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<v Speaker 4>what's missing from all of this is the sacred because

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01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:07.640
<v Speaker 4>all of this is on somebody else's holy ground, and

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01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:10.479
<v Speaker 4>these archaeologists they don't view it as holy ground, and

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01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.279
<v Speaker 4>these robbers, they don't view it as holy ground. And

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01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:16.119
<v Speaker 4>the people who would consider it holy ground they're long dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is why we have a problem, is because

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01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:22.359
<v Speaker 4>they don't have that sacred mindset. They're not looking at

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01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>these objects as being sacred things. It's more of just

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01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>more artifacts that they can catalog and put up on

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01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:31.399
<v Speaker 4>a shelf or keeping the ground.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's it's tough. They would never

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<v Speaker 6>say it nowadays, but in the time when nagpro was

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01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.760
<v Speaker 6>being debated in the United States, it was quite common

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01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:47.079
<v Speaker 6>to see the people opposing it say things like indigenous

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01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:52.000
<v Speaker 6>archaeology is pseudo archaeology. Straight up. They're just fucking straight up,

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01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:54.960
<v Speaker 6>no ifs ands or butts about it. If you're doing

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01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:58.479
<v Speaker 6>archaeology from an indigenous perspective, you're not doing real You're

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01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:02.840
<v Speaker 6>just it's fake science. So that's the attitude. And now

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01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:05.720
<v Speaker 6>they'll pretend now that that's not the case, but that's

1888
01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:10.479
<v Speaker 6>the way that they do that is they ostracize people

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01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:13.199
<v Speaker 6>like Elizabeth Weiss right. If you guys know who she is,

1890
01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:17.039
<v Speaker 6>She's an anthropologist who is heavily critical of nagres, so

1891
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.560
<v Speaker 6>they just they ostracize her. But they still do the

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01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:24.840
<v Speaker 6>exact same things, the exact same methodologies that created all

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01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:28.199
<v Speaker 6>of the problems to begin with, where they ignore indigenous accounts.

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01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.239
<v Speaker 6>And now it's one thing to take and I can

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01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:34.079
<v Speaker 6>see why an Indian will get infented if you just

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01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:36.479
<v Speaker 6>come in and take in adigenous account and translate it

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01:40:36.560 --> 01:40:41.359
<v Speaker 6>into ancient artifacts, ancient technology, atlantis. Every single time, I

1898
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.000
<v Speaker 6>could see why that would get fucking old. It's like

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01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:45.680
<v Speaker 6>you're just taking my mess and you're just using them

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01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:49.119
<v Speaker 6>to push your narrative. However, that's no different than what

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01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:51.279
<v Speaker 6>the scientists are doing. We're going to talk about the

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01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:53.920
<v Speaker 6>people into the Americas. We want to know the burying

1903
01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.319
<v Speaker 6>land bridge, so let's see how kenwick Man fits into that,

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01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:59.520
<v Speaker 6>and the natives and the scientists argued about that one

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01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:03.720
<v Speaker 6>for a law time. That standard operating procedure with those

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01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:08.119
<v Speaker 6>guys is ignore Indigenous accounts. Pat him on the head. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 6>thanks for the artifacts boys. Anyway, I hope to answer

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<v Speaker 6>your question, Tim, I gotta lip and see if I

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01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:19.359
<v Speaker 6>Tim Tim's a good guy. I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>I made him happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, No, no, that's fine. No, that was great, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 6>No, thank you Tim, and thanks Nick. Yeah, I need

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01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:30.479
<v Speaker 6>to get more monitors. I need to I need to

1915
01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:32.640
<v Speaker 6>buy out one of those bat cave setups instead of

1916
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:36.399
<v Speaker 6>this little laptop. But I'm so man, dude, dude, my

1917
01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:38.439
<v Speaker 6>shoes still have holes on them and ship due. I

1918
01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:40.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm never I'm always going to be poor white trash

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01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:45.600
<v Speaker 6>no matter how much money I have. There is we

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01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:50.000
<v Speaker 6>all pretty much pretty much?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anything anybody else wanted to ask? Could wrap

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<v Speaker 1>it up? Yeah? All right, okay, well Dan, thank you

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01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>very much for coming on again. Man, it's always a

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01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:03.479
<v Speaker 1>blad Hell yeah, we talked about a lot more than

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01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought too, which is great. Nice. Before we wrap

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<v Speaker 1>it up'll let everybody plug their shows again. Judith the Loon,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing, I know you might have been having

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01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>technical difficulties over it.

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<v Speaker 3>If my volume you okay, you can catch me at

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube and on x as the loan and thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for having me Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course of course, and headless Giant, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize for the motorcycle rally that goes on outside

1936
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:40.760
<v Speaker 4>my door every time I start podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it's the way, Okay, it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well you can find me on X and on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 4>also on Instagram at the Headless Giant, and yeah, check

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01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:54.479
<v Speaker 4>out my show with Ethan Indigo and Ricard calib Audio

1941
01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:58.039
<v Speaker 4>when we were talking about the all sorts of crazy

1942
01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:02.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff this morning, Free Energy Machine ls all kinds of stuff.

1943
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:05.000
<v Speaker 4>It's a great two hour round trip. So check out

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01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:05.720
<v Speaker 4>the trialogues.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, sir and Brandon. Please let them

1946
01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:11.039
<v Speaker 1>know where they can find you.

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01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Please head on over to Magus in the Media on

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01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>my YouTube, on my x, on my Instagram, on all

1949
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the social media platforms. I'm here to help break down

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01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:24.399
<v Speaker 2>the myth, the magic and.

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01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:27.560
<v Speaker 7>The meaning and the things and all the shit that

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01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:30.279
<v Speaker 7>we love together. I want to say something before I go.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want people to know that even though we're ocultists,

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01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:35.720
<v Speaker 2>this is a comment that I saw and I shouldn't

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01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:37.880
<v Speaker 2>react to comments, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Is

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01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:40.479
<v Speaker 2>that there are people out there who want to comment,

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01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's fine, but I think you forget that the

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01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:45.239
<v Speaker 2>occultists that you see on this panel.

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<v Speaker 7>Even if they don't say it, I'm gonna save it

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<v Speaker 7>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We are very divine people, like we are. We worship

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01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:56.119
<v Speaker 2>things and gods and like we look at Nick is

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<v Speaker 2>doing the sacred architecture stuff right now, and so we

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01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:02.439
<v Speaker 2>don't think that we don't want to walk into churches

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<v Speaker 2>and feel the mystical beauty of the divine.

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<v Speaker 7>You're fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know who you are who I'm responding to,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just want everybody to know that we are

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<v Speaker 2>God's people and we all are God's people, and it

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01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter who what God, it's the divine and we

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01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>worship that which is. And so I just I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>hot and spicy because I'm in a hot and spicy

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01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>land right now, and I just truly feel that I

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01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:29.079
<v Speaker 2>hope people, I want us to help rewrite what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be an occultist, a magician, a king, a lover,

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01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>and a warrior. And I think it's a really important

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<v Speaker 2>thing for us all to know. And so, like I

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01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>said before, I want everybody to do that for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And so tap into your nervous system, become your own hermetic,

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<v Speaker 2>become your own magician, king, lover warrior and just do

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Listen and follow everyone here because there is

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01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>shit going on right now and it's time for us

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01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to take over this world in our own bubbles. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone here can agree with that. And so again, Nick,

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01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you're the man. Dan, I love watching you do what

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01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:05.199
<v Speaker 2>you do on X and everything that you're doing, and

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01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:08.079
<v Speaker 2>so I so appreciate you coming on here and chatting

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<v Speaker 2>with us and just continue fighting the good fight because

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01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:12.319
<v Speaker 2>there's fucking morons everywhere and we just.

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<v Speaker 7>Got to flap them away with all the great things

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<v Speaker 7>that we do.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Ethan.

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<v Speaker 5>What's going on so well, I'll try not to tear up,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll try to add a little on top of

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<v Speaker 5>that well said presentation. Brandon. You know, I think of

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<v Speaker 5>occult rejects as the occultists, right. We reject we've been

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<v Speaker 5>rejected by the secrecy and are sharing ideas all of us.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that's a really powerful proper thing to do.

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<v Speaker 5>And obviously Dan that you share everything you share too,

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, perhaps perhaps to everyone here, appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 5>for all that. And Ethan Indigo Smith on all the

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<v Speaker 5>social media, and I again just to appreciate everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>On the shot as well. So thank you for baking

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<v Speaker 1>and Ethan always appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Please just the super Sexy Day. Let everybody know what's

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01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>over there where either they can find all your stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Any any events coming up that you'll be speaking at,

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<v Speaker 1>please let them on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, we'll be in Sidona, Arizona, May first through third

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<v Speaker 6>for the Quest for Ancient Civilizations Conference. It's gonna be

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01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:22.479
<v Speaker 6>a lot of fun. I'm gonna be out drinking and

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01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:26.760
<v Speaker 6>partying with everybody and it's gonna be great. You can

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01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.119
<v Speaker 6>find me on YouTube and on Twitter and on the

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01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Instagram and stuff I'm around. You'll you be probably find

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01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:35.880
<v Speaker 6>my links at de dunking stuff. People know who I am,

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01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:41.800
<v Speaker 6>they just don't like me the uh really quickly. One

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01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:45.119
<v Speaker 6>thing to say about like about being, you know, all

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<v Speaker 6>of us being our own kings or being our own

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<v Speaker 6>things is you know people, Jewels said. The singer Jewel

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01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:54.319
<v Speaker 6>said that we're God's hands. She sang at over and

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<v Speaker 6>over and over again at the end of one of

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01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:58.079
<v Speaker 6>her songs. And you know, if you look at things

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<v Speaker 6>that way, sometimes God given you a massage. And but

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<v Speaker 6>some people they don't deserve the massage. Some people deserve

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<v Speaker 6>a fucking two pound sledgehammer to the ass, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm God's hands. So the rest of the time,

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<v Speaker 6>you guys give him a massage when they need their

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<v Speaker 6>fucking teeth knocked in.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks a lot, man, This has been a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 6>I really enjoyed talking to you guys. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 6>much for wait and sorry you had technical difficulties, Judas,

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<v Speaker 6>and but yeah, we'll have to do this against sometime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't always have a blast with you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he says he's going to be a hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out and partying, he is he will be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know for definitely will be.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's a cool motherfucker in person too, so

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<v Speaker 1>definitely yeah. If you can make it to that event,

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<v Speaker 1>I highly I highly suggest it. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the last one me and Hellas with that

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01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was a blast. It was amazing. Speaker's a great time,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the food was fucking slamming too, so.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I definitely check it out. And again, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Dan and thanks for sharing it out. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great to see a lot of the comments

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<v Speaker 1>from your side in here too. Good stuff. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we go live. And uh until the next one. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>be well later.
