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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure to welcome ap Dylan from the North

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State Journal to our airwaves this afternoon. APEA good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How are you, hey, Mack?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of news over the last couple

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of days for folks, especially those that spend a lot

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of time on social media, specifically the X platform. There's

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been a whole bunch of swatting going on. Before we

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get into some of those details, can you walk us

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through what swatting is. It was pretty popular in the

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early two thousands. It seems to have risen back to

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prominence again over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Well. Swating event is basically when someone calls the police

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anonymously and gives a tip that something violent as is

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happening at your home, and they send police officers and

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off in the SWAT team to your house to investigate

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the claim. This happened here in North Carolina over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, walk us through that story.

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Speaker 2: An individual who was not seemingly political back until about

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six months ago has risen to some national popularity.

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Speaker 4: Walk us through what you're tracking there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a gentleman named Matt van Swall. He's in

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the western part of North Carolina, and he's been speaking

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up for the hurricane victims and was particularly upset with

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the Biden administration's lack of activity in that area, and

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has been very appreciative of the Trump administration's activity in

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that area, including FEMA clearing some of its calls. He's

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drawn a lot of criticism from various groups on x

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most of them appear to be left leading, But I

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wouldn't say all. Over the weekend, someone called in to

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the police anonymously that he had murdered his wife and

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was hiding in his basement, and that sent police to

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his door.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's interesting that you bring that up.

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Speaker 2: Not only was it his birthday when the swat team

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showed up to his door, but he'd posted earlier in

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the week ap that he had actually gone to his

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local police department because so many folks were swatted through

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the early part of last week to inform them that

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he was likely to become a target of this. But

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I guess, you know, when nine one one gets a

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call that somebody's murdered their wife and their whole family,

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I guess they respond anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't always connect with the person's name and

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the actual call and the address that comes out. They

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often don't have a name to go with that address,

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and the police are just dispatched. So, yeah, his kids

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were upstairs asleep. His wife happened to answer the door luckily,

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and the tensions were you know, considerably brought down a

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latch once the wife answered the door who was supposed

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to be dead. So he was fairly upset about it.

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And he hasn't reached out to him a few times

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in the last couple of days here since it happened

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and made sure that he was okay, or see if

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he needed anything, just you know, human to human. And

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he said that he hadn't really heard anything from law

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enforcement about whether or not they had a suspect involved.

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But I do know that the director of the FBI,

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Cash Betel, has issued a statement on x about these

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swatting attempts, and he said that the FBI is aware

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of this dangerous trend, and my team and I are

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taking action to investigate and hold those responsible accountable. So

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I have a feeling that we might see some activity

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in that unless you know, if this happened through a

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burner phone, which is non traceable.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's what we've seen when this really rose

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to prominence in the early twenty tens, using services like

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Skype and other sort of like virtual calling platforms, sometimes

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out of the country. These calls are placed ap It's

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incredibly hard to track these individuals down, but they're all

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are examples where individuals have done this swatting. I hate

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to call it a prank, but that's essentially what it is,

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this swatting prank. The swat team shows up and they

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actually kills somebody because they're believing that they're walking into

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an armed situation going on. You've hat people die at

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the hands of this. This is incredibly concerning.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they tracked a whole bunch of calls, hundreds

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of calls down to a California teenager just recently, and

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I think he was charged and actually sentenced. I'd have

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to actually go back and look at that, but yeah,

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there was you know, he was making calls to schools,

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bomb threats and things all over the country and they

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managed to track him down. So I have hopes that

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maybe they'll track this person down who's making these calls

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to different people. It sort of follows in the vein

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of some violent threats that have been happening around the

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state this past week. Last week, actually, Senator Tom Tillis

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released voicemails that went to his office and people verbally

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abusing his staff. I mean, we're talking the very liberal

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use of the F bomb, death threats, hatchet in your head,

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this kind of stuff, you know. And then you know,

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at the end of the week, Congressman Edwards held a

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town hall which completely went off the rails with people

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yelling F bombs at him in Nashville, and apparently Supreme

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Court race candidate Judge Jefferson Griffin has been getting all

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kinds of threats at his home, so there's you know,

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I guess Alison Riggs also had some threats made to

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her the North Carolina Judicial Brands communication director over there

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basically said that there's an investigation underway on both sides

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for Griffin and Riggs and that the marshalls are looking

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into that there. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We'll join this afternoon on the Pea Calendar Show by

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ap Dillon over at the North State Journal at AP

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About forty five minutes ago, Senator Tail has released more voicemails.

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I can't play them on the air, of course, every

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other word would have to be bleeped out. But the

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general thing of this call that he just released the

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individual on the other line talking about caving the senator's

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head in as well as his kids and his grandkids.

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What do we do to ratchet this down at the

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national level, Apiece is starting to get a little out

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of control.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think these people will need to be prosecuted.

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I mean, these are death threats. These are not covered

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by free speech, and you know, until there's consequences out

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there for these kinds of things, this is going to

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continue to happen. I know that Senator Tillis's received warnings,

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you know, during the nomination process as well, that you know,

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people were you know, formulating threats against him. So this

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is it's getting out of control, it's spiraling. Someone is

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definitely going to get hurt. I think law enforcement is

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going to have to step up and re proactive. And

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I think that these individuals were receiving the threats are

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within their rights to up their security.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that. And you know, I want

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to go back to something that you reference. You know

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that the Chuck Edwards a town hall that took place

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last week that of course spiraled the meeting out of

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control and a I'm seeing calls on social media for

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other members of Congress. Of course, North Carolina has a

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majority Republican congressional delegation in the US House. I'm seeing

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calls for these individuals to host town halls from individuals

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that are on the political left. Do they have any

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interest in actually listening to these people or do they

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just want to yell and scream and get their voice

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across that way?

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Speaker 3: Well, even bad publicity is good publicity, right. A lot

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of these town hall protests are being organized by either

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Democratic parties in the area or that protest group Indivisible

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that was formed under Trump's first term there where they

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would go out and organized protests. Some of them got

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a little bit out of control. But those are the

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two groups that I'm seeing right now in North Carolina

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that are pulling these together. The North Carolina Democratic Party

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held a big anti Doge protest just before Josh Stein

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gave his State of the State address last week. The

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same time, the Durham Democratic Party organized a protest at

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a Tesla dealership in northern Raleigh. So these things are

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happening all over the place, and I think so far

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those have remained peaceful. We haven't seen any violence there,

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but the rhetoric is definitely there, and it's definitely profane.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Pete, tell folks what you're going to be tracking

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over at the North State Journal this week and over

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at your substack at ap Dylan dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 4: What are you going to be keeping an eye on

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this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously Senator Tillis and his disclosure of his voicemails

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will be one of them. Right now, over at the substack,

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I've got just a few things going on there. Acblue

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is getting investigated on the national level under the Biden administration.

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Some of the ICE figures look to be quote cooked

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and internal Democrat polling doesn't particularly look particularly good. Over

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at North State Journal, I've got articles about two house

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bills targeting immigration and ice compliance, as well as one

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thing that went under the radar. Usagpambondi ended investigations into

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parent protesting their school boards. I think we all remember

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Merrik Garland's memo which directed the FBI to investigate parents

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protesting and he used domestic terrorism labels on them. Well

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that's done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing like us showing up to voice your concerns

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with your local school board and being deemed a domestic

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terrorist by the Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: Pretty remarkable stuff. AP. Tell folks again where they can

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keep track of you.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'm an ex at AP Delan Underscore, and I'm

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at North State Journal which is NSJ online dot com.

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And I also have a substack more to the story,

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which is AP Delan dot sub substack dot com.

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Speaker 4: AP, thank you so much for the time. Greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 2: So obviously a lot of stuff going on nationally, internationally,

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across the state. As we were discussing with ap in

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the previous segment, it's been very interesting to watch the

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Democrat reaction to the second go around of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: I made the point earlier.

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Speaker 2: And callers disagree with it, but I made the point

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that the Democrats can't win on issues, and it's obvious

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that they can't. Just look at the greatest example of

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this is the men and women's sports issue. Democrats had

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four years to take that argument, their great idea that

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it was okay for biological men to play in female sports.

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They had four years to convince the American people that

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was the case, that their idea was good, that it

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was the way that our country needs to operate and

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needs to be. They miserably failed in convincing the American

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people to do that, and within just a couple of

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days of this new administration, Trump holds an executive orders

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behind him dozens of young female athletes that have had

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serious health issues as it relates to this wacko crazy

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policy that's moved forward by the Left, and their idea

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is completely dismantled in real time, I mean just completely gone.

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And so the Democrat Party right now is in a

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very precarious spot. As we covered earlier in the show. Today,

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these two new polls, the one out from NBC the

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other from CNN, show very very low approval ratings for

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the Democrat Party. And I think part of it is

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they're kind of struggling with an identity issue. What do

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: You know, this idea of burning Tesla's in New York City,

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or spray painting Tesla's or destroying them, lighting them on fire,

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thinking that you're, you know, shoving it to the man,

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I don't think that's a really good idea. Who knows,

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when you look at the overall view of the American left,

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it's a good political strategy to have you be the

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party that is burning cars in streets. I'm not sure

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that's the best look, especially burning cars of a guy

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that you once idled. Right. The whole irony of the

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of the Ela Musk thing is that he was the

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darling of the left. Tesla and SpaceX Solar City, which

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he owns, took over from the federal government or bought

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and then took, you know, billions of dollars worth of

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subsidies from the federal government. He was the darling of

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the left. Tesla is the They completely revolutionized the ev

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game and forced every other manufacturer to have to seriously

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innovate in their electric vehicle offerings. Once a darling, now

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the enemy of the progressive, radical left. So they're protesting him.

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They're standing up in support of Hamas on college campuses.

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They're standing with dangerous Venezuelan street gangs that are roaming

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the streets of the un States and by the way,

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the streets of North Carolina. This gang, these three hundred

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gang members that Trump deported on Saturday in defiance of

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a judge. They're part of that trend de Agra gang

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out of Venezuela. Two of those affiliated gang members have

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been picked up in North Carolina over the last twelve months,

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one in Charlotte over the summer of last year and

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the other in Raleigh back in February. Both of these

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individuals wanted on murder charges in other states, one in Chicago,

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one in Florida. I believe, yeah, the Democrats are standing

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up for those individuals. These are the people that they

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are siding with, and I guess they believe have the

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best political ideology for them going forward. And so when

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you look at this overall Democrat approval number, it's not

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surprising that it's so low because it's truly a party

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that is dealing with an identity crisis. It's truly a

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party that is trying to navigate through the resistance phase

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once again. Right they were law resistance in the first

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Trump term. They're trying to do it again. And I

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don't think it's going to have the same impact. I

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don't think marching around the state Capitol in Raleigh screaming

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about Elon Musk, Doje and Donald Trump is a is

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a great position for the Democrat Party to be in.

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Doje on Wednesday. Later that night, Governor Josh Stein, who

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is a Democrat, indicated that he was going to be

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directing his budget office within the Governor's mansion to construct

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some sort of Doze style operation. Don't they just look

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incredibly stupid with that. You've literally got the governor, your

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guy as a Democrat, who's saying North Carolina needs a

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doge too. Yet they are spending their Wednesday afternoon aimlessly

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walking around Raleigh chanting, hooting and hollering about Trump and

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Elon Musk, other fun songs and all the cool little

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things that they sing, and they're really neat signs that

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they walk around with. That's the current Democrat Party. This

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party is absolutely going through a rebirth right now.

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Speaker 4: It has to.

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Speaker 2: Their ideas are not working, their ideas are not resonating

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with the American public. And yelling and screaming on street

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corners and burning cars. I don't think is the path

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forward for them if they want to have a successful

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midterm in twenty twenty six, which by the way, is

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theirs to lose. Midterm elections are always brutal for the

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party in charge, meaning currently the Republicans. So if the

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Democrats want to secure victories and gain seats in both

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the House and the Senate in just less than two

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years from now, they'll have the opportunity to do that,

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But not if they continue down this path. I don't

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see how they're winning the favor of anybody. But they're

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far left progressive wing of the party. With the things

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that they're doing, it seems completely detrimental to everything that

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they're trying to do something we'll keep an eye on all.

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Speaker 2: Going back to last hour, we were talking about the

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situation that's unfolding with the out of control district judge

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system that's existing right now, where pretty much anything that

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Trump brings forward, anything that comes out of his administration

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is just blocked by district court judge, temporary stays, temporary

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restraining orders, everything is just immediately blocked. And one of

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the callers mentioned last night, Newt Gingrich was on Mark

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Levin's Life, Liberty and Levin program on Fox News, and

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Newton had a pretty good synopsis of this what's going

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on right now and what needs to happen going forward.

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I just want to play a little bit of this

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from last night. This is new Gingrich on Fox News.

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Take a listen to this. His insights are pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Sure, then look to have several kinds of power. First

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of all, though the House and Senate Judiciary committees should

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have two kinds of hearings. One that should have sort

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of intellectual hearings, bring in smart people. Legal scholars lay

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out the case that the found Bill fathers never wanted

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to have these kind of radical judges seeking to interpose

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themselves between the elected officials of the American people and

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their own whacked out left wing views. And then second,

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I think it would be very educational to bring in

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the weirdest of the judges and have them under oath

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explain why they made the decision they did, what the

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source of that decision in the Constitution is, why it's

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a legitimate decision. And I think these judges would look

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really bad, and you'd begin to understand that they really

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represent a radical worldview with no constitutional basis.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna stop new Gingrich right there, and I'm

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going to play a little bit more from him. But

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what he's saying right there is the quintessential argument. Bring

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these judges in and have them explain where in the

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Constitution they have the authority to issue these temporary states. Folks, Again,

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it's important to note we're not talking about final decisions

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coming down from district court judges. We're not talking about

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them having a full hearing, hearing the merits of the case,

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hearing arguments from both sides, and ruling.

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Speaker 4: That's not what we're talking about. We are talking.

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Speaker 2: About temporary restraining orders that are being placed, temporary stays

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that are being put on the executive branch of the

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United States. That is immediately stopping the agenda, immediately stopping

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the executive authority. Nuke Gingrich, I think it's spot on here.

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Bring these jokers in and have them explain. Where in

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the Constitution does this exist? Where are you deriving your

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authority to do such things? Where does it say that

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you have the authority to issue a temporary stay over

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immigration policy coming out of the executive branch? More from

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New Gingrichjohn Fox News is Mark Liberty and Levin last night.

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Speaker 5: And then I think the Congress untooka two possible steps immediately,

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one to either impeach certain judges or abolish their court.

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And two, so look seriously at the budget of the

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judicial system the United States and simply cut it dramatically.

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The point that Hamilton makes in the Federalist Papers is

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that the courts in the end cannot win a fight

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with the elected officials of the legislative and executive branches

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because the money and the power comes from those two branches.

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These judges, I think are in grave danger. This is

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a test, as Lincoln said at Gettysburg, of whether this system,

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or any system so conceived, can long endure. I mean,

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if the American people electing the people they want, and

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they've given the Republicans the House, the Senate, and the

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White House. If they can't then enforce their views and

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they can't represent the American people, then our whole system's

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in trouble. At the America's New Majority project, we just

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did a poll last week. Eighty one percent of the

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American people believe the federal government's corrupt. Eighty one percent.

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This is an enormous danger to this revival of freedom

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when you have eight out of every ten Americans believing

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that the core system is corrupt. The House and the

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Senate have an obligation to bring these judges in to

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interrogate them, to understand the normal constitutional boundaries, to look

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at the historic precedent, and then if necessary, just abolish

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their courts and cut them out of the game, or

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cease paying for them so that they just sit there

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and they can't do anything but the current situation. And

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you were exactly right in your opening. The current situation

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is intolerable and it is a direct threat to the

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system of self government that is at the core of

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the American model.

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Speaker 2: You can't really summarize it any better than that, can you.

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I mean, New Gingrid's just fire on all cylinders there.

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The options I think he lays out are perfect. Haul

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them in front of Congress and have them explain to

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the duly elected members of our government, the House and

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the Senate, why they are operating in the main that

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they are, where they are deriving the authority that they

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are operating under. I think that would be very eye opening.

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And then, as new Gingrid said, then there's two options.

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You either drastically cut their funding so they essentially can't

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do anything, or you.

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Speaker 4: Just abolish their courts.

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Speaker 2: And you hate that it's come to this point. You

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hate that we've come to the end of the road

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where this is what's being discussed. But what do you

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do when progressive activist judges who do not have the

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authority to operate in the manner that they are continually

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shut down the administration, the duly elected administration of this country.

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It is a very precarious situation that we're in. It's

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not a good situation either. I don't want the district

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court system essentially to be flushed down the toilet. I

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don't think that's a good thing for America. But unfortunately,

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due to the actions of these judges, the actions of

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these left wing groups that sue till find a Democrat

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judge that will side with us, Find a Democrat judge

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that will be friendly to our case. Find a Democrat

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judge that will issue a temporary stay or a restraining order.

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This is the animal that the Democrats have created. You know,

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I always find this so ironic with the left, they

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are constantly changing the rules of the game, and then

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they get upset when Republicans, when the GOP, when conservatives

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want to play by those same rules. You guys are

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the ones setting the rules here. You guys are the

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ones setting the playing field, so we're going to play

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on it too. You don't get to just run around

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and judge shop and get everything that you want or

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everything that you don't like thrown out out of the

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executive branch from district court judges before due process. That's

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not how our system works. If you guys want to

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play that game, then it's time for Republicans to take

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drastic measures.

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Speaker 4: There's just no other way around it.

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Speaker 1: All right, if you're listening to this show, you know

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in for Pete Calendar this afternoon on Newstock eleven ten

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and ninety nine to three. WBT seven oh four five

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seven oh eleven ten is our studio hotline if you'd

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like to chime in on the program this afternoon. Something

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that's going to be an interesting thing to watch over

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the next couple of days. Have you been following anything

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about this autopen issue that's come to light? So the

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autopen is something that is used within the White House

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to sign the president's signature. Well, apparently all of the

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pardons that Joe Biden issued for members of the House

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January sixth Select Committee were signed via auto pen and

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not via the president's actual hand. He wouldn't actually sign

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it himself.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: President Trump put a post on truth Social a couple

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of hours ago saying, quote, the pardons that Sleepy Joe

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gave to the Unselect Committee of political thugs and many

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others are hereby declared void, vacant, and no longer and

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no further force or effect because of the fact that

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they were done by autopen. In other words, Joe Biden

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did not sign them, and more importantly, he did not

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know anything about them. The necessary pardoning documents were not

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explained to or approved by Biden. So the US Constitution

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claims that the president has no authority, however, to overturn

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his presidential his predecessor's pardons. However, there is some questions

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about an actual signature that is playing out as an

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autopen is an electronic signature that allows those pardons to

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be signed without physically being there, and it's exactly what

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it sounds like. It mimics the handwriting of the president.

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It's an auto pen. However, there are some questions as

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to can a pardon be issued without the president actually

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being in the room, because we don't know whether Joe

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Biden was or wasn't when these pardons were signed. Caroline

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Levitt was asked about that during the White House Press

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briefing that has taken place while we've been on the

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ARA this afternoon. Let's take a listen to what she

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had to say about this. She was asked a question

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about it.

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Speaker 6: The President was begging the question that I think a

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lot of journalists in this room should be asking about

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whether or not the former president of the United States,

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who I think we can all finally agree, was cognitively impaired.

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I know it took people some time to finally admit that.

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But we all know that to be true, as evidence

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by his disastrous debate performance against President Trump during the campaign.

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I digress on that, but the President was raising the

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point that did the President even know about these pardons?

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Was his legal signature used without his consent or knowledge?

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And that's not just the President or me raising those questions, Caitlin.

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According to The New York Post, there are Biden officials

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from the previous White House who raised those questions and

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wondered if the President was even consulted about his legally

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binding signature being signed onto documents. And so I think

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it's a question that everybody in this room should be

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looking into because certainly that would propose perhaps criminal or

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illegal behavior if staff members were signing the President of

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the United States autograph without his consent. Is on the

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record talking about the issuing preemptive pardons to these people,

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But was he aware of his signature being used on

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every single pardon? That's a question you should ask the

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Biden Why.

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Speaker 2: Any evidence on that that he wasn't aware of it.

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Speaker 6: You're a reporter, you should find out.

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Speaker 2: Caroline Love It's phenomenal, isn't she just great, she's not

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taken the bait from the media.

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Speaker 4: Is there any evidence that this may have been happening?

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Do you have any evidence, Caroline, whether this was happening

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or not? Do you have any evidence of that? I

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don't know. You're the reporter, You're the one getting paid

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to track stories down on Don't you go figure it out.

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It's not my job. I'm the White I'm the current

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White House Press secretary.

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Speaker 2: You guys are the journalists in the room, right, You

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guys are the ones that are keeping democracy free.

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: What's the Washington Post headline, Democracy dies in darkness? You

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guys are the ones that are supposed to be doing this.

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Why is it taking Trump posting on truth social about

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auto pen signatures? Why is it a bunch of guys,

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a bunch of bros on Twitter or X combining all

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of the pardon documents together indicating that they're their exact

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same signature, indicating it's an auto pen. Why is it

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some random guy on X that's figuring this out. Why

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is it not the actual media establishment in our country

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that's supposed to be protecting us from losing our democracy, which,

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of course Trump and the Republicans are going to steal

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away as we always hear from them, So that'll be

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interesting to watch over the next couple of days to

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see who knows how does this play out in regards

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it to the president's pardons.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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