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Speaker 2: sit down with a woman who I'm gonna call one
Speaker 2: of my first real porn crushes. When we got in
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Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 1: Hi? Hi, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: So I just want to lay this out for the
Speaker 2: people at home. I have a distinct memory of following
Speaker 2: you on the GRAM in the early days of her
Speaker 2: sort of forcing me into the porn world and thinking
Speaker 2: you were hot. And I remember I saw you at
Speaker 2: Avianne and in my head I thought that chick is
Speaker 2: like the Paris Hilton of adult films. That was the
Speaker 2: energy you were given at the time.
Speaker 1: I guess why I'm trying to be a DJ, so
Speaker 1: I'm like following her up.
Speaker 2: Many batties have done this.
Speaker 1: Before, but I know the bi pipeline, you know.
Speaker 2: And then in twenty eighteen or so, maybe twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: we did, in fact end up hooking up in our
Speaker 2: old apartment, so we did seal the.
Speaker 3: Deal is seven years ago.
Speaker 1: No, we had a great time, for sure. We had
Speaker 1: that that whole night when we went to bowling that time. Oh,
Speaker 1: this was a different night for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we went bowling Adriana chechick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Dylan was so fun. That was just for
Speaker 1: us for sure.
Speaker 2: So we hook up twenty eighteen or whatever that was.
Speaker 2: I didn't see you for probably like six years, I guess,
Speaker 2: until finally at eight n back in January, I saw
Speaker 2: you there. Oh my god, you exist, and yeah, it
Speaker 2: seems like you're at least kind of trying to make
Speaker 2: a step back into the scene. Right, it's all Rightay.
Speaker 1: So in twenty nineteen is like when I left and
Speaker 1: I decided to travel the world. I went to Bali
Speaker 1: for six months, then I went to Australia for six months,
Speaker 1: and I went out of a bunch of different places,
Speaker 1: and I really discovered myself and doing what.
Speaker 2: What kind of things were you doing in these places?
Speaker 2: Hooking up a guy inhaling dicks, Right, that's what I.
Speaker 1: Was thinking up right, living my best life for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, six months in Bali. What's that like?
Speaker 1: It was like super beautiful there. We went to the jungles.
Speaker 1: We like ran to the most beautiful mansions. This mansion
Speaker 1: had a pool on the top and you could swim
Speaker 1: and you could see exactly like, Okay, I have a
Speaker 1: question because it was like the most like intricate stuff.
Speaker 4: I really it sounds so beautiful and I hear awesome
Speaker 4: things where I'm just like thinking about what happens when
Speaker 4: you travel is like you're so excited at first you go,
Speaker 4: and then you have let's say like ten days to
Speaker 4: two weeks there, and you kind of get like an
Speaker 4: itch to get back to routine because although travel is amazing,
Speaker 4: it's like you kind of miss that. What's it like
Speaker 4: when you'reveling somewhere for six months? Do you build a routine there?
Speaker 4: Or is every day a new adventure?
Speaker 3: Still?
Speaker 1: No, it's every day's a new adventure. I don't like
Speaker 1: to do like the tourists stuff, so I didn't go
Speaker 1: to any of the like the little swing that they
Speaker 1: have there. No, we just went straight to like hanging
Speaker 1: out in the jungle. I shot a bunch of hot scenes.
Speaker 1: It was just like are you running the club every day,
Speaker 1: not every day, every other day, every other day.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It was at Wild and we were popping champagne. It
Speaker 1: was like a blur for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had people tell me about Bali and
Speaker 2: they just make it sound like this is a place
Speaker 2: of like great healing. You'll go there, you'll do yoga,
Speaker 2: you'll do the ayahuasca retreats, you'll leave a different person, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think you could do ayahuasca out there.
Speaker 2: Sure you can, that's like.
Speaker 1: Defly do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought they had very harsh policies on drugs.
Speaker 1: Out and Balie people definitely sneak it. Okay, DVS.
Speaker 4: I heard you can get like arrested for weed and
Speaker 4: stuff there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally you can't. Actually, since I left the new law,
Speaker 1: if you're not married and you could get it, you
Speaker 1: could get arrested if you're not married and you're hooking
Speaker 1: up with someone in the law.
Speaker 4: For sure, you want to go into the day club
Speaker 4: and like trying to find out who's taking out.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna know if we're hooking up.
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to ask GBT right now, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you rock with that one. So I feel like
Speaker 2: it might be a little more.
Speaker 1: You know, this is like a new law that just
Speaker 1: came out. So I'm like, I'm happy I'm not there
Speaker 1: because I was shooting a who bunch of content.
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're saying that I can move there
Speaker 2: and my wife won't be allowed to fuck anyone else, right.
Speaker 1: I think Bali is like La they have, Like all
Speaker 1: the food is really nice, it's very healthy, it's like
Speaker 1: mostly vegan.
Speaker 3: You get sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did get the Bali belly for sure.
Speaker 3: That's right here on the get you.
Speaker 1: I think it's just all the stuff that they put in,
Speaker 1: Like everything is just completely different, like the way they
Speaker 1: grow their foods and stuff like.
Speaker 2: So at that time in your life where you're just like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I've made enough money. I've done porn
Speaker 2: for all these years. I've got the only fans and
Speaker 2: come coming in. I'm probably schmooz the money out of
Speaker 2: some guys. I'm gonna just take off, leave the industry behind,
Speaker 2: leave the la grind behind. Was that the idea?
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that's when I bought my house. Actually, So
Speaker 1: I bought my house over there in Vegas, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like Okay, finally did the goals that I needed.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, once I have the goals that
Speaker 1: I wanted, I was like, let me have fun, let
Speaker 1: me travel, let me explore. I get to know myself
Speaker 1: and being different countries like that, it really shows you
Speaker 1: perspective on how like amazing we had it here and
Speaker 1: there's just so many hot guys everywhere too.
Speaker 2: Really it was like that I.
Speaker 3: Hear it's all Australian voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally Australia. After I was like, okay, let me
Speaker 1: get closer.
Speaker 2: But you hook up with a guy and he's just
Speaker 2: gone in the week and a half. Totally Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Like that, you don't fall in love.
Speaker 1: That's why I stayed for six months. I did fell
Speaker 1: but that was ok.
Speaker 2: It was like a while, a little like That's what
Speaker 2: I've been trying to figure out with you is like
Speaker 2: I feel like you're one of the first girls where
Speaker 2: I realized, like, you know what, She's always posting photos
Speaker 2: at these like really nice restaurants and there's never anyone
Speaker 2: sitting across from her, Like is she taking these photos
Speaker 2: when this guy goes to the bathroom And I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: some women are using men for free dinners.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine?
Speaker 2: But uh, I feel like you were one of the
Speaker 2: first people where I like kind of connected those dots
Speaker 2: in my head.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just it was just me and
Speaker 1: my girlfriend's traveling and sometimes there would be guys and
Speaker 1: sometimes they wouldn't be guys, and it was it was
Speaker 1: like just a big My first time going to Bali
Speaker 1: was a big group of girls. It was me, Luna Star,
Speaker 1: Missy Yeah, Misty Sterio, Missy Stone. Else was the Tell Conrad.
Speaker 1: It was like a bunch of us. We went on
Speaker 1: like a group trip. This was like in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: It was before like all that stuff was really popular.
Speaker 2: Right, that's dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh we got but Wild and Bali. We
Speaker 1: didn't realize how far it is. So it took us
Speaker 1: two days together and we were there like like the
Speaker 1: quickest vacation.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh, it was like that.
Speaker 1: I am not saying, who does research. I'm like Derry's
Speaker 1: So I'm like okay, I'm like I'll get there. I
Speaker 1: like gets there and then we're like four days in
Speaker 1: we have to leave.
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy, you know.
Speaker 4: I'm like, if I get on a long s flay
Speaker 4: I am staying for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Hell no, that's why I'm not.
Speaker 1: Going to And I came back, especially with the time change.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not doing a two day trip just to
Speaker 2: hang out for four days and then do two days
Speaker 2: back because also I'm gonna get a brutal reality check
Speaker 2: from that jelf jedlife for sure. Wait, but so do
Speaker 2: you feel because my assumption about you is that your
Speaker 2: heart is too calloused to find love from all of
Speaker 2: these years doing port.
Speaker 1: When I is that wrong and I'm like peeling it
Speaker 1: apart like I have, like I've been with romances. I
Speaker 1: just broke up with a guy that two months ago.
Speaker 1: I was dating someone for how long? Six months? It
Speaker 1: just didn't work out, Like we we kept fighting and
Speaker 1: like we couldn't get over our fights. So it's just
Speaker 1: like he was actually a talent too. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is my first time trying to date someone in our
Speaker 1: like our industry. I was like final. It was fine
Speaker 1: for a bit, We shot a lot of cool content,
Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff done like that.
Speaker 2: But so you weren't jealous or he didn't get jealous
Speaker 2: of No, I was jealous.
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can have a guy in the industry because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I give him. We're jealous. I'm like, I want my
Speaker 1: guy just from.
Speaker 2: But you're in the industry. You know how impersonal it
Speaker 2: is and how little these people mean to you and
Speaker 2: you have sex with them.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well, for my only fans, I try to
Speaker 1: only have sex with people that I really build something
Speaker 1: with them. Like That's why most of my only fans
Speaker 1: is just with me.
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing right now. We're building a connection,
Speaker 2: I hope. So I'm trying to get past that level
Speaker 2: so that we can hook up. And if we don't,
Speaker 2: then we're not going to hook up like.
Speaker 1: Up intimacy, you know, a little play, a little hotness.
Speaker 2: We already hooked up, so it's really like we're rekindling
Speaker 2: on the flame, right we know her?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know all my all my edges and
Speaker 1: all my all my bits.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's been like seven years, so I can't really
Speaker 2: remember many of the edges that you speak of, but.
Speaker 1: I don't hope I remind you for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure. That sounds great, Okay, so short interview. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna we got to get a little bit
Speaker 2: more here.
Speaker 1: Then I went to Mexico. I stayed intu Loom for
Speaker 1: six months. This was like really fun and you bought
Speaker 1: a house just to never be there. Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened at that point, got storage unit.
Speaker 2: Many people would have done that.
Speaker 1: I was just like I really wanted to. Like this
Speaker 1: was during the time everyone was buying houses. It was
Speaker 1: like during the snapchat era, you know, when we were
Speaker 1: doing the snap like the swipe ubs.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so that was super popular. You look back
Speaker 2: at that as like the glory days, because to me,
Speaker 2: the glory days are much fun.
Speaker 1: We were just like like just documenting our lives throughout
Speaker 1: the whole time. That just just got exhausting at one
Speaker 1: point because you had to like put it on every day.
Speaker 2: Like rights that we're both still on that really. If anything,
Speaker 2: if you've seen me taking a million photos like filming
Speaker 2: randomly in the club or whatever, there's a snapchat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have the like the nude one anymore,
Speaker 1: but I have like a regular one just like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you come from you know, you come
Speaker 4: from having an agent and working for studios, so for you,
Speaker 4: it's like you got paid a flat rate for a
Speaker 4: shoot and then private snapchat, which was before only fans
Speaker 4: that money was it gave you the freedom to not
Speaker 4: have to answer every single one of your agents calls
Speaker 4: and show up to all the shoots.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck you guys. They were like calling me,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you want to get this scene that's
Speaker 1: like about to be an AVIA nominated scene because like
Speaker 1: they already knew exactly what, Like it was like a
Speaker 1: It's like a five way gang bang. Like it was
Speaker 1: like a lot of people in that scene. I was like,
Speaker 1: it was like a big, a big scene. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to do it? Have you ever done
Speaker 3: a gang bang? No?
Speaker 1: I want to. That's what I'm like prepping myself to
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: How many years have you been doing born.
Speaker 1: It's been twelve years, twelve years.
Speaker 4: And you're you still think you got it and you need
Speaker 4: to do the gag bank. I feel like twelve years
Speaker 4: you would do it already.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wanna. I would love to have
Speaker 1: that many men around me, like pleasing me in all
Speaker 1: all spaces. Is just like I just need to make
Speaker 1: sure I'm ready. Yeah, I want to talking about this.
Speaker 1: You know, I want all my hosts to be experienced.
Speaker 1: If I do a gang bang, can't be just like
Speaker 1: you know, vagina has to be.
Speaker 3: Both yeah everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wait, So we were having this conversation the other
Speaker 2: day is do you think the average woman is secretly
Speaker 2: turned on by the idea of something like a gangbang?
Speaker 2: Because I've been kind of asking random girls just in
Speaker 2: conversation and it's pretty much no, like absolutely not. That's
Speaker 2: what they say, but that's what they say. But I
Speaker 2: feel like they're actually just like mentally confined into saying that,
Speaker 2: and that if they were to unleash their true sexual desires,
Speaker 2: they'd be like, yeah, it's kind of hot.
Speaker 1: One time that they fantasize about it, they want to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really, I feel like every girl thinks it's hot to
Speaker 4: a degree, but I don't think that every woman, myself included,
Speaker 4: would actually want to do it because it seems it
Speaker 4: seems scary, it seems intimidating. And now that I've been
Speaker 4: with two men at once, and it's overwhelming and you
Speaker 4: never look truly truly, you never feel like you're getting
Speaker 4: the experience because you're just like you're not present you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like that would make the gang bang a
Speaker 4: little like too much.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think a fucking two guys that wants
Speaker 2: reasonable fetish doing a five or six guy gang bang.
Speaker 2: I feel like the average woman just has not even
Speaker 2: thought of that, because even they id have two guys
Speaker 2: and once, it's kind of out there for the average woman, right.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just that fantasy of it, all
Speaker 1: of like being ravished, having every part of your body
Speaker 1: like worship you know, the guy's at the bottom of
Speaker 1: your feet. There isn't like on top of you worshiping
Speaker 1: your ears all the bits.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, worshiping your feet in your ears? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like we'm banging you. I'm not touching your feet.
Speaker 3: But some of the.
Speaker 1: Guys who are like some guys you know, like enjoy fee.
Speaker 1: I mean not everyone is like it's like a sensory overload, right,
Speaker 1: And you're like ADHD.
Speaker 2: I remember honestly being like nineteen twenty and there was
Speaker 2: like a girl around my age that in high school
Speaker 2: with and she had fucked like three of my friends
Speaker 2: at once, and we're at the bar and I was asking,
Speaker 2: I'm like, why did you do that? Tell me why
Speaker 2: you like this? She's like, it's just fun. There's so
Speaker 2: much going on, and I remember feeling like, WHOA, I
Speaker 2: can't believe she just admitted that, even though we're sitting
Speaker 2: here and that's like pretty much the obvious thing about it.
Speaker 1: It's a stimulator all over your body. You know.
Speaker 2: The guys are really so you're saying, in this gang
Speaker 2: bang you would want your vagina and your butthole to
Speaker 2: both be in use. Yes, Oh my god. Even as
Speaker 2: a dude who's been doing porn for quite a while,
Speaker 2: it's still is like Wow.
Speaker 4: I mean, don't you feel disappointed when you wants a
Speaker 4: gang bang and there's no anal.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a walk.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I feel disappointed because it's still like
Speaker 2: that's going above and beyond, like an anal gang bang
Speaker 2: is so rare and compared to a regular gang bang,
Speaker 2: like the average woman is just not suit if even
Speaker 2: the average porn star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd never do it.
Speaker 2: We're working on it.
Speaker 1: We're building back up right because I didn't like it
Speaker 1: when I was shooting and when I was shooting back
Speaker 1: in the day, but I actually got experience through a
Speaker 1: guy who was really into it, and he really taught
Speaker 1: me how to like ease into it because in port
Speaker 1: they just like they just want all like they and.
Speaker 4: You guys do crazy positions and porn it's not just
Speaker 4: like oh, regular anals like not the you know, that
Speaker 4: is great for anal, but then in porn, no one
Speaker 4: cares about spoon in a full nelson with anal or.
Speaker 2: Like they want her sitting on your legs yea, and
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 3: Sounds like it hurts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're building back up towards an We're going
Speaker 2: to build back there. Her butttholdings a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Don't have used a little plugs so little?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm putting stem cells into it. What stem cell injections.
Speaker 4: I think what made me not like anal was that
Speaker 4: we were shooting anal on camera and then like the
Speaker 4: clean up and then the concern of like is there
Speaker 4: going to be blood because that's not allowed, Like those
Speaker 4: took me out of it because we used to do
Speaker 4: anal before, we used to shoot content.
Speaker 2: We were doing anal periodically, and then we tried to
Speaker 2: shoot it one time just me and her different for sure,
Speaker 2: it wasn't as smooth as we might have liked. So
Speaker 2: because we got to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 2: In terms of anal, I think, yeah, when's the last
Speaker 2: time you did it.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot, for sure. It's like six months ago, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was was during a wild night,
Speaker 1: like I was out, give.
Speaker 2: Me a wild night, describe this.
Speaker 1: We were partying and we were just like hanging out.
Speaker 1: We're shooting content. We went and we rented out of
Speaker 1: a house like an uh in uh what is it
Speaker 1: called Joshua Tree? Okay, And it was really pretty, so
Speaker 1: we just stayed up. We took pictures during sunrise and sunset.
Speaker 4: But I feel like drugs and anal are scary because
Speaker 4: sometimes they make you go to the bathroom depending, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I was also when I used to do serious drugs.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a pretty good chance that we're not
Speaker 2: having sex for ten minutes. We're having sex for like
Speaker 2: two hours, and a lot of buttholes are not necessarily
Speaker 2: equipped for that, Let's be real. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 2: my I love those Molly memories of just fucking for
Speaker 2: way too long.
Speaker 3: I'd rather just scuttle right Molly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got a nut first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, when I'm on Molly, like I can't
Speaker 1: not like I could keep exactly like, I can't feel
Speaker 1: that climax.
Speaker 2: Like I have memories of having sex for way too long. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so wait, are you ever gonna exit this party girl
Speaker 2: stage of your life and just settle down, get a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: and really take it serious or is that just never
Speaker 2: going to be your way of life.
Speaker 1: I'm not like a party girl, per se. I am
Speaker 1: gonna go to I'm going to greased to, You're gonna
Speaker 1: to party this next following month. But I don't identify
Speaker 1: as a party girl anymore.
Speaker 2: No, because she was talking about going to Columbia. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: tell me if I shouldn't say this, But you were
Speaker 2: saying going to Columbia, and I'm like, you know, if
Speaker 2: I went to Columbia, I would probably do coke again.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, because I feel like whatever they got out
Speaker 2: there is probably the real ill shit you go. I'm
Speaker 2: more of a two sea girl. I'm like, okay, she's
Speaker 2: a party animal.
Speaker 1: No, I like, I like to have my little balance, right,
Speaker 1: I'll have a couple of times where I'm like sober,
Speaker 1: and then when I go out to the country, I
Speaker 1: have my little more fun and I'll.
Speaker 4: Just could you go to the club and if you
Speaker 4: tell yourself, like I'm not going to drink tonight, will
Speaker 4: you actually not drink? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now I can, But before I would not be able to, okay,
Speaker 1: because I needed the alcohol to like I needed it
Speaker 1: for something. But now I'm just like I don't need
Speaker 1: anything for anything.
Speaker 3: Done that.
Speaker 2: We went to this party Saturday, and you know, me
Speaker 2: and her, I'm not gonna lie. It took like two
Speaker 2: shots of a tequila or whatever, basically like nothing zero.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's like multiple girls that we know
Speaker 2: that we encountered who were just blatantly rolling their faces off,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of looking at them like part
Speaker 2: of me is like, God, I missed that feeling that
Speaker 2: looks like it feels really good. And then the other
Speaker 2: part of me is just like, I'm gonna wake up
Speaker 2: tomorrow and feel totally normal, and that is just so
Speaker 2: I'm just married to that concept, Like I just don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's how I like it. I like feeling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I woke up feeling perfectly fine, I would
Speaker 4: be way more tempted to actually drink or do whatever
Speaker 4: when we go out. But I just if I get
Speaker 4: like six hours of sleep and some eight hours of sleep,
Speaker 4: I already feel hungover. Yeah, so actually adding alcohol into
Speaker 4: that is not fun.
Speaker 2: I also feel like I could do a very small
Speaker 2: amount of molly and probably a great night. And the
Speaker 2: girls that I was looking at were definitely people who
Speaker 2: had done like extreme amounts of it.
Speaker 1: Molly was like it was made for couples, you know,
Speaker 1: to like balance themselves and to like communicate. It's actually
Speaker 1: it's a heart opener and helps you like talk to
Speaker 1: your partner.
Speaker 3: Sometimes someone is free therapy.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me that I should take one on
Speaker 2: a date, and for sure, no, Okay, I'm gonna warn you.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be anywhere in public on that drug.
Speaker 2: Definitely, Like you go.
Speaker 1: Like on a little romantic thing and you have the
Speaker 1: star somewhere and.
Speaker 3: You'll be able to stargazing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna go to Columbia to shoot also,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna shoot content. We're gonna like do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things.
Speaker 2: Shooting for your of for you. Are you doing studio
Speaker 2: content at this point? Are you kind of over that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I just got back in so I started shooting in
Speaker 1: December again. I shot for Vixen. I shot for Deeper
Speaker 1: show for a couple of their stuff seven year break
Speaker 1: a mill stuff. Now yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, you're a milk.
Speaker 1: Now yeah, I'm thirty.
Speaker 2: Two, okay born that's milk exactly.
Speaker 1: But like I love it. I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: cute character. Like I could, like, you know, I like
Speaker 1: to iron and I'll put it on. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll put it on for you.
Speaker 2: Does it give you a little bit of a feeling
Speaker 2: of like, shit, maybe I should be a housewife and
Speaker 2: a mother?
Speaker 1: No, I try it. I thought I wanted to have
Speaker 1: a kid at one point, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: not for me. So like I already like I know
Speaker 1: for a fact, I don't.
Speaker 2: I just want to be like I love being a dad.
Speaker 1: Witch, whatever kind a guy. I'll find a guy, but
Speaker 1: like I'm not looking for one right now. I'm like
Speaker 1: really focusing on myself. I want to get back like
Speaker 1: I was just shooting again and it was hard being
Speaker 1: in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I love being a dad. But I just have
Speaker 2: like so much respect for people who know that they
Speaker 2: don't want to have a kid, you know, like that
Speaker 2: just like is impressive to me that you know yourself
Speaker 2: that well, because I guess I didn't know and then
Speaker 2: I did it, and I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: fucking sick.
Speaker 3: I always know I was gonna have kids, yeah, at
Speaker 3: least one.
Speaker 1: As long as, like I like, my sister has a kid,
Speaker 1: so I'm like the best auntie. And my brother has
Speaker 1: a kid, and I'm like the best auntie and I'm
Speaker 1: trying my best with them, you know, but like I
Speaker 1: haven't found the right partner, you know, it's really hard
Speaker 1: to find like a good like father.
Speaker 2: Are you going to freeze your eggs so that this
Speaker 2: is more of an option going forward? No, No, I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not spending my money on that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I freeze my face. I'm the best step mom,
Speaker 1: so like, if any rich guy wants me to be
Speaker 1: their step mom, I got you.
Speaker 2: Wait, So nothing has changed in the porn world since
Speaker 2: you took your seven year break or did you notice
Speaker 2: anything that was like a little different?
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff changed, Like what it's so like
Speaker 1: when you step on set, it's just like a military
Speaker 1: They're like you have to say so much paperwork, like
Speaker 1: are you okay with everything? It's it's just very not
Speaker 1: sexy anymore really used to. We had we had a
Speaker 1: little bit more fun. We were a little charismatic. When
Speaker 1: you go on set, it's just very like, let's shoot
Speaker 1: and let's get out.
Speaker 4: What was the kind of fun stuff you guys were
Speaker 4: doing on set before, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like having like a little quickie. No, we never
Speaker 1: really drank, but like we would have quickies in the
Speaker 1: bathroom with the talent, and that's.
Speaker 2: Off limits in the current environment.
Speaker 4: No, it's just like what you get in trouble if
Speaker 4: you went on set and you and the talents are
Speaker 4: fucking in the room.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's found upon now that you.
Speaker 4: Might not get booked again for being unprofessional or something exactly.
Speaker 1: They're like, because everyone is is just it's very everyone's scared.
Speaker 3: Everyone's scared of getting canceled or there's like.
Speaker 1: They're canceled in the industry. Since I came back, a
Speaker 1: lot of directors that I used to work with are
Speaker 1: like canceled. They're like, oh, because they were booking girls.
Speaker 1: They were telling girls to like you know, they were
Speaker 1: sucking them on the side but telling them like, oh
Speaker 1: I'll book you, blah blah blah. But they were never
Speaker 1: booked them and it was just like I was watching
Speaker 1: The Power to Carry.
Speaker 2: I was watching like an older interview the porn dude
Speaker 2: that I like, and he was basically like talking about
Speaker 2: the casting couch and basically being like, Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: want to be in my film, you know, you gotta
Speaker 2: fuck me or whatever. And I'm like, oh, like, nobody
Speaker 2: would really say that anymore. I don't think if they
Speaker 2: wanted to like stay in the game, even though I'm
Speaker 2: sure it happens, like you know, people are just starting
Speaker 2: really open about that if they are. I mean, we
Speaker 2: were talking about shooting a gang bang not with her
Speaker 2: and it was suggested that we should hire an intimacy coordinator.
Speaker 1: Right, they have that on set now.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, what the fuck? Like this
Speaker 2: game is different than what I thought it was. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be having fun. We're having sex on set
Speaker 1: and everyone is just super uptight a little bit. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring back the fun and bring back
Speaker 1: the looseness and having a little bit more, you know.
Speaker 2: I Mean, It's funny because I remember one of the
Speaker 2: first ever plug talk scenes that we shot, and this
Speaker 2: is not happened at all. Since then, there was like
Speaker 2: a girl who was on set that wasn't in the shoot,
Speaker 2: and she starts like hooking up with the male talent
Speaker 2: in the bathroom like as we're ending this shoe and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, whoa, this is like crazy
Speaker 2: out of control. And then that hasn't happened at all
Speaker 2: since so yeah, but.
Speaker 3: I mean that's their right morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah you want to get a little bit you're not
Speaker 1: off a little bit more?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean they're just going to meet up later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least here Bank now Bank there, you can't
Speaker 1: fuck hear, I'm a slot in real life? You know?
Speaker 2: Do you really feel like that you identify as a slut?
Speaker 1: Okay, some sluody things. I wasn't mean throughout one point,
Speaker 1: but now I'm just like willing it back.
Speaker 3: You're recovering, mean girl? Why were you so mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know. At that point when I was like shooting,
Speaker 1: I was just like I was a bitch a little bit.
Speaker 1: But now I'm just like trying to like wiel it back.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you saw every girl as your
Speaker 3: competition or.
Speaker 1: What totally competition? And then I was just like it
Speaker 1: was we had a lot we were having a lot
Speaker 1: of caddy came like caddie Like we would kind of
Speaker 1: like try to out do each other in each.
Speaker 4: Scene, but there must have been some sort of like
Speaker 4: force that was U I guess instiicating this competitiveness. Was
Speaker 4: it like your agents or the directors, because it's like to.
Speaker 1: Win an or like the like the most view scene
Speaker 1: on the porn hub or something like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like you were in competition for your category
Speaker 2: more back then, Like the first ever porn girl that
Speaker 2: I really hung out with had like dark hair, and
Speaker 2: she told me that her agent got another girl that
Speaker 2: was kind of like fair skinned, dark hair, and that
Speaker 2: she like aggressively spread rumors about this girl having horrible
Speaker 2: STDs and shit, and I remember being like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: People were like that. They would spread like one girl
Speaker 1: would record conversations when it would be like hanging out,
Speaker 1: like she would have her phone and always recording Like
Speaker 1: that's some shady shit.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh they She would show it to Derek, I,
Speaker 1: an agent back in the day, Like I'm like what
Speaker 1: he doesn't care obviously, Like like like you're just.
Speaker 4: So do you feel like you just automatically hated a
Speaker 4: blonde girl that you saw because you were always blonde.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, not the blonde's Actually that's too generic, right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it a wide category?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I've heard also say that, like.
Speaker 4: Back when she started porn, there's only room for like
Speaker 4: one Asian girl, that's how it was, right, and like
Speaker 4: right now every girl and only fance, Like there's so many.
Speaker 2: Girls in the Internet age. It's like the same thing
Speaker 2: with podcasts, like we just like don't really have a
Speaker 2: reason to be super competitive with other podcasts. You know,
Speaker 2: you already know there's going to be a bunch of
Speaker 2: podcasts in any given category. Everybody wants to do good.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be the best that they can. But
Speaker 2: ultimately it's like, are we gonna just like hate on
Speaker 2: Ryan from pillow Talk because that'll make our business better? No,
Speaker 2: it's like probably better if we're just cool and there's.
Speaker 1: Enough perverts to watch us for everyone.
Speaker 2: Well, with that in minds enough for all of us,
Speaker 2: let's perve out