1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A Here at proven Winter's color choice shrubs. 2 00:00:06,599 --> 00:00:11,119 It's The Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,160 Weist and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, shade 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,600 is the Wi Fi of summer. Everyone's looking for it, 5 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:25,039 searching for it. But if trees or structures are throwing 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,920 shade on your landscape, parade, we'll shed some light on 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,079 the topic today. Can you have a colorful landscape in 8 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:40,000 the shade? Yes? You ken don't be held hosta by shade. 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 We'll talk you through it today on The Gardening Simplified 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,679 Show and Stacy. Yesterday, I was in a shady part 11 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:49,719 of my garden and the black hat rhododendron was in 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,679 full bloom next to the Paisley pup dog hobble and 13 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:58,320 the sun king aurelia coming out of the ground, and 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,039 the black hat was buzzing with bees. 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Ah. That sounds like a perfect combination. Now, be honest, 16 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:06,599 did you do that on purpose? Or was it pure luck? 17 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Pure luck? 18 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Love that. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: You know. I was in my living room, I looked 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,200 out the window at my neighbor's house and all of 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,680 a sudden, in a shade area where he struggles with deer. 22 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:23,599 There were these spectacular colorful plants coming out of the ground, 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,159 and I'm like what, So I went outside and walked 24 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:32,359 over there. These were metal agave plants that he ordered 25 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:33,560 off Amazon. 26 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: The metal plants are They're quite fad this year. Yes, 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,120 I saw them all over the garden centers and uh, 28 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:42,359 it's a take. 29 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: It's a take. We'll leave it at that. As I 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,239 walked through my shade garden, I love the wild berry hukura. 31 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:56,959 What a great plant for color. So there are a 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,640 lot of colors you can use in a shady area 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 and they'll make you green at least your neighbors green 34 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,680 with ivy. Don't forget. Shade is a wonderful element to 35 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:11,479 have in your garden, especially during summer heat. Embrace what 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,039 the shade adds instead of keying in on what you 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,719 can't do. It's an attitude adjustment. And remember the old proverb. 38 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:27,080 Gardens are not made by sitting in the shade. Sometimes 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,360 your lack of success, too, can also be caused not 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,199 by the shade, but by shallow rooted trees or by 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,280 root competition, and so we have to keep that in mind. 42 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Last week we did a show on yellow yellow. Let 43 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,680 me make a point. You want bright yellow. We're going 44 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,840 to practice what we preach here. Pure yellow is the 45 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:54,039 most luminous color in the landscape in the light spectrum, 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,199 and it reflects light. So why not add some yellow 47 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,240 to shady areas? Stacy the sun king Aurelia is a 48 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,680 favorite of mine. Shadow land Autumn frost hosta or echo 49 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:14,000 the sun hosta. I love autumn frost hosta because it's 50 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:19,479 a variegated hosta. But the margins, the light colored margins 51 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,120 are very large as opposed to thin, really casts off 52 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:25,240 a lot of color. 53 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: That is truly an incredible hosta. Now I usually prefer 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,439 the reverse variegated hostas, which are green on the outside 55 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:35,599 and then white on the inside. Autumn frost is a 56 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:39,199 huge exception that plant. You see it in the garden center, 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,479 and you can just tell autumn frost hosta is different 58 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:45,680 than any other hosta and it is beautiful. And also 59 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:47,400 you know, the green is more of a blue, so 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,479 it's kind of more of like a yellowy cream and 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,960 blue rather than just your standard white and green. It 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,360 truly is an exceptional plant. 63 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,159 Speaker 1: Love it color in the shade yellow tubers pogonias with 64 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,840 heart to heart, crem brew lay shade, palladiums, golden feathers, 65 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,080 Jacob's ladder. Oh, I love that plant. That's a great plant, 66 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,159 going banana's day lilies. Boy, we can plant it in 67 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:12,159 the sun. We can plant it in the shade, a 68 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,439 true re bloomer. And Stacy I was thinking the other 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,639 day too, you can get away with daffodils and for 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,160 scythia in the shade, especially considering the fact that many 71 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,240 times they'll be in bloom before the leaves come out 72 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:28,720 on the tree. 73 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,079 Speaker 2: Yes, so if you have deciduous shade, shade that's cast 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,600 by deciduous trees. Now, funny thing about going bananas daily. 75 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,519 Of course, you know here at proven winners were always 76 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:41,439 all about making up those plant names, with wacky plant names. 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,879 That one actually came from the breeder. He was working 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,759 on the plants, and his wife came in the house 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,639 after walking by it, and she said, man, that new 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,040 dayla lily you're working on is going bananas out there. 81 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:54,319 And the name stuck. 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I love that great story, great story. More yellow leaves 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,399 or yellow color in the shade. Hack and a kloa 84 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:05,399 the Japanese forest grass that's a go toue for me. 85 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: I figured you'd have that because haw kinakloa Japanese forest 86 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:11,480 grass is pretty much known as the only grass that 87 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,480 will thrive in shade, the only true grass. I mean, 88 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,879 of course you can grow sedge, which is grass like, 89 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:18,839 but it isn't a grass. So I figured that this 90 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:21,920 would be like your BFF for your shady areas, because 91 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,079 I know you love your grasses. 92 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,199 Speaker 1: It is it's and you have. 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Your plants on irrigation right, No, you don't know. 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm out there handwatering. 95 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Oh so you are watering though, because 96 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,439 I was gonna say every time I've tried to get 97 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,199 Hakona kloa established it has not worked. But I do 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,040 not have the commitment to handwatering that you do. 99 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,319 Speaker 1: It's a shady, moist area on the east side of 100 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:44,279 the house. It works great. 101 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful plant. It is one that I 102 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:47,399 really really like. 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,959 Speaker 1: Some more yellow dressed up ball gown which is a 104 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,879 hu kara fun and games I spy foamy bells. What 105 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,360 a fun plant hearts on fire dicentra or old and 106 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:06,879 bleeding hearts primroses. You could add a yellow Japanese maple 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,000 in your shade guard. I mean, the possibilities are limitless. 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,279 So the point I'm trying to make here is if 109 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,839 you want color, even bright yellow color, Stacey, it's attainable well. 110 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: And we talked a little bit about that in our 111 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,439 recent yellow episode, that the yellow pigments in a lot 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,759 of plants indicates a lack of chlorophyll, and that reduced 113 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,639 amount of chlorophyll can often make yellow foliage plants more 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,959 susceptible to burning in full sun. So very very often 115 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 when you see a yellow foliage plant, not one hundred 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,120 percent of the time, but very often, you will actually 117 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,759 find that they are more shade tolerant than they're green, 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,480 and certainly their purple or red counterparts. So it's kind 119 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:50,279 of a good cue if you are someone who's looking 120 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:53,000 for new plants for shade, keep an eye out for 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,879 that yellow foliage, and chances arts it's going to work, you. 122 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,639 Speaker 1: Bet, I you know. I guess it's important to point 123 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:03,800 out you did initially hear Stacey, that not all shade 124 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,680 gardens are equally shady. You have structural shade, you also 125 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,759 have filtered shade or I love the word dappled shade. 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: Dappled shade is a great place to be too. 127 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I love spending time in an area that 128 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:23,399 has dappled dappled light. 129 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and we have to say dappled light 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,000 comes from trees with open high canopies. And I just 131 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,160 want to say I'm no fan of Norway maples, not 132 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,759 least of all because there is no getting dappled light 133 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:39,600 when you have a Norway maple. They are so dense, 134 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,879 so you don't get that like lovely shifting light and 135 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:47,639 that ability to grow things under it. I hope that 136 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,279 Norma maples go out of style. I mean, there's just 137 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:54,079 better choices, right. They don't get good fall color. They 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,560 are fast for shade, and that's cool, but you know, 139 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:59,560 it might be worth waiting a little bit longer so 140 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 that you can actually plant under them and enjoy your shade. 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,439 You know, they don't have good fall color. Flowers all right, 142 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,360 sort of interesting. Bark's not particularly interesting. I think we 143 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:10,920 can do better. 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I anxiety mulch better. Yes, now. Of course, shade's a 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,959 great place for broad leaf evergreens too. Oh and speaking 146 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,800 of evergreens, by the way, Celtic Pride, I have been 147 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,439 impressed by its performance in the shape. 148 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: You know that is. So it's a microbiota also known 149 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,080 as a Siberian cypress. Definitely one of the most shade 150 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,759 tolerant conifer evergreens for sure, And it's one of those 151 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,440 plants that I think people tend to pass by at 152 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,120 the garden center very often, probably because I think it's 153 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,320 a juniper and they have had bad luck with unips. 154 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,919 They don't like junipers because they're prickly or something like that. 155 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,720 But the foliage on the Celtic pride microbiota is almost 156 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:57,320 fern like. It has this really kind of lovely, soft, 157 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,919 fringy foliage and it's a great groundcover. It's a great 158 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,960 texture plant. Yeah, it's one of those plats. Once people 159 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,679 know about it, they love it. But it does kind 160 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,639 of have that little bit of a in the know 161 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,960 kind of thing that gets you to buy it. 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,759 Speaker 1: But once you've experienced it, you're going to stick with it. 163 00:09:14,879 --> 00:09:17,759 Of Course, broad leaf evergreens do great in the shade, 164 00:09:17,919 --> 00:09:24,159 primarily because they enjoy the shade. Specifically, structural shade in 165 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,200 winter helps them get through the winter season. And we'll 166 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,320 talk in segment four about a lot more plant choices 167 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,320 that you can pick to add color to your shady area, Stacey. 168 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,279 Throughout history, people have loved the shade of trees. And 169 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,960 you think about that Buttonwood Agreement, the Buttonwood tree in 170 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,360 New York on Wall Street and where they met under trees. 171 00:09:51,399 --> 00:09:54,120 That's how people used to do it. Thomas Jefferson same 172 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,080 way when he was Secretary of State. They would meet 173 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,679 under trees. And for are you personally to experience the 174 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:07,000 joy of the shade going to a rainforest if you 175 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,200 get a chance to do that in Costa Rica, I 176 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,600 love that and the colorful Toucan birds that we're flying around. 177 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:19,519 It really gives you an appreciation of shade. So I 178 00:10:19,639 --> 00:10:24,360 embrace four of the five seasons my limerick today. Four 179 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:29,279 of the five seasons I embrace. I embrace winter, spring, summer, fall. 180 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,399 I'm out there enjoying all of them. The fifth season 181 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,240 I do not enjoy is air conditioning season. Soon I 182 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:42,039 will be repositioning as the seasons are transitioning. I embrace 183 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,159 four of the five seasons. For one, I have my reasons. 184 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,120 I will not embrace air conditioning. Why on earth do 185 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:55,320 I want to freeze in your building that set at 186 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:01,399 zero degrees? Bring on that plant evapo transfer firation. It's 187 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:07,120 a natural cooling sensation. You can find me outside under trees. 188 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: Love it. 189 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,399 Speaker 1: I love being under a shade tree in the heat 190 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,039 of summer. Let's see how Stacey ties this in in 191 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,440 plants on trial. That's up next here on the Gardening 192 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,639 Simplified Show. 193 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Beautify your home and community with proven Winter's Color Choice Shrubs. 194 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,720 With over three hundred and twenty five unique varieties to 195 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:34,080 choose from. There's a flowering shrubber evergreen for every taste 196 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,240 and every space. Just look for the distinctive white container 197 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,000 your local garden center or learn more at proven Winner's 198 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:45,440 Colour Choice dot com. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back 199 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,279 to the Gardening Simplified Show where we're talking all about 200 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,360 getting color in shade. And I would just like to 201 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,360 say that green is a color. 202 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,519 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, so you know, I know when. 203 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,639 Speaker 2: People say they want color for shade, they mean something 204 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,480 beside green. Yes, we should never really take for granted 205 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:07,720 how much green does for us. And a lush green 206 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,879 shade garden is really I mean, it's love, it doesn't 207 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,720 it's beautiful. 208 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,159 Speaker 1: I love that point, Stacy, because there are so many 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,279 shades of green. 210 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,159 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Yeah, you don't just have like one color 211 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,279 of green. But before I launch into today's plants plural 212 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,840 on trial, I do want to say we were talking 213 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:29,080 about trees and signing treaties under trees and everything in 214 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,080 the previous segment, and years ago I was visiting the 215 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:35,879 Gwen Frostick studio up north here in Michigan, which I 216 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,799 know all of our fellow Michigan peeps out there are 217 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:41,639 going to know be familiar with Gwen Frostick. And in 218 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:43,799 the studio, it wasn't one of her artworks, but it 219 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,720 was just a piece of a poster that she had 220 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,080 in her studio and it was a big close up 221 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,519 of tree rings and it said one sentence on it, 222 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,840 A tree is a place. And you know that's not 223 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:00,399 something that I think people think of enough. Tend to 224 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,600 think of a tree as like a thing or an 225 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:05,639 element of the yard. But a tree really is a place. 226 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 227 00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: And when we garden under trees or put benches or 228 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:13,159 you know, otherwise create areas where we can actually be 229 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,399 among the trees and enjoy them, we appreciate them as 230 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:16,799 a place. 231 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I'm so glad you brought that 232 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,039 up because years ago, that's where people would meet, that's 233 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,919 where they'd hold important meetings. They didn't have air conditioning 234 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:28,080 back then well, and. 235 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: They didn't have a lot of landmarks either, so you 236 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,000 could just be like, meet me in the big tree, 237 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:34,120 meet me under the tree in the center a crown. 238 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:36,720 And it wasn't like, you know, turn right at the 239 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,039 at the gas station and left at the McDonald's and 240 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:39,759 I'll see you there. 241 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Can you tell I'm tired of going to meetings wearing 242 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,200 a stocking cap and a winter coat. Yeah, okay, okay, 243 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,360 but you're right. A tree is a place, tree, right place. 244 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: So, and a tree gives you shade. And when you 245 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,159 have shade, you may want to plant something under it. 246 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,360 And you know, I think there are a number of 247 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,200 things that you can plant under shade. And Rick just 248 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,879 gave us a great list of yellow foliage plants and 249 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,039 flowers that you can plant under a tree. And I 250 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,440 am going to for today's Plants on Trial, give you 251 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:11,480 a rainbow, a whole spectrum of every color in the 252 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,840 rainbow of something that you can plant in shade. But 253 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:17,399 I do want to preface it by saying that you 254 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,399 do have to have reasonable expectations right. A lot of 255 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:23,080 plants will tolerate shade, they won't thrive in it. Some 256 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,200 plants absolutely thrive. And you've been talking about the sun 257 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,399 king Arelia, that is a shade plant. Don't try to 258 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:30,720 plant it in the sun. It will not be happy. 259 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:32,879 You will not be happy. It is a shade plant. 260 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:34,440 A lot of the plants that I'm going to give 261 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,480 you will tolerate being in the shade. Results may vary. 262 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,559 If you live in a hot climate, that shade is 263 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,840 probably going to be very beneficial and you'll get good results. 264 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,200 If you live in a cooler climate, or the shade 265 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,559 is very very dense, not dappled like we were talking 266 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:53,320 about from a high open canopy of a tree. The 267 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,240 colors might not be as intense as you see, for example, 268 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,879 in the photos in our tags or our website, but 269 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,519 it will still give you some color. You know, I'm 270 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:02,480 not talking about things that aren't gonna do what you 271 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:04,399 want them to do. So you have to also have 272 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:08,639 somewhat reasonable expectations. You know that the foliage color isn't 273 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:10,840 going to be its most vivid or it's most true 274 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:15,279 that if it's something that flowers, it may have fewer 275 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,519 flowers than it would if it had a little bit 276 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:20,600 more light. But still, if you have a lot of shade, 277 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:22,759 you might feel like you don't have a lot of options. 278 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:26,120 And this show is all about helping you dispel that 279 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:30,080 myth and give you lots more options. So we will 280 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,120 start at the beginning of the rainbow with the color 281 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:39,440 red now red for shade. Wee bit giddy hydrangea now 282 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480 big leaf hydrangeas. This is a hydrange of macrophilla or 283 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,440 a big leaf Hydrangea are quite shade tolerant, and I 284 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,799 have to say I've been very surprised, you know, just 285 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,519 driving around here in West Michigan where we do have 286 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:55,039 great luck with big leaf hydrangeas. They do really thrive 287 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:57,360 in shade. They don't seem to need as much sun 288 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,559 as you know a panicle hydrangel or smooth hydrangea. They 289 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,080 bloom really well. Wee bit giddy is our dwarf big 290 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:08,159 leaf hydrangea with bright reddish pink colors. There are no 291 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,519 truly red hydrangeas. And the more red tones that it 292 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:15,559 hasn't it, the less it will go blue, or it 293 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,080 most will get kind of like a pinky color with 294 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,320 a little purply blue center, so wee bit giddy would 295 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,120 be a great choice for that nice deep red pink 296 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,200 flower on a big leaf. Hydrangea also have kodiak red Durvilla. 297 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Durvilla's are a great choice for shade. Again, this is 298 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:35,559 one example where you're gonna get, you know, some nice 299 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,759 red new growth, but you're probably not gonna get as 300 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:41,759 vivid and you're probably not gonna get as vivid fall 301 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,480 color as well, but still very much worth it for 302 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:49,960 that accent. Arctic fire red dogwood, yes, extremely shade tolerant plant. 303 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,399 Now when it's actually at its most red, it may 304 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,799 not matter to you as much because it's winter, but 305 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:56,720 it's still going to give you that great red color 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,799 all winter long and in the fall. So that is 307 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:02,840 very much worth keeping in mind. Also as a hedge 308 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:06,799 for shade, very very useful plants if you have shade, 309 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:09,640 even though it's not necessarily the flashiest thing during the 310 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,000 growing season, but you know, if you take that list 311 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:13,960 of stuff that you gave which had lots of very 312 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,079 flashy stuff in it, and then use arctic fire red 313 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,240 cornice or dogwood red twig dogwood to kind of anchor 314 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:24,000 the space you got a pretty sweet deal. I'm going 315 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:26,599 to add one more, one of my personal favorite plants 316 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,880 in the Pervum Winter's Color Choice line, simply sensational Cali canvas. 317 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Oh man, it is just starting to bloom here. And 318 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:39,400 the fragrance is just one of my absolute favorite very 319 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,680 shade tolerant, very dear resistant plants. Orange. Now, we were 320 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,400 talking about Azalea's a couple episodes ago, and I was 321 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,880 talking about our fabulous native flame Azalea rhododendron colundulation. That 322 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,920 would be a wonderful choice if you want bright orange 323 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,759 flowers in shady conditions. But you could also for foliage 324 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:05,279 tricodiac orange dravilla. So same deals with the Kodiak red Love. 325 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: It does great in the sun or shade in my lands. 326 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, Rick gave you lots and lots 327 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,480 of amazing options for yellow. I have a couple to 328 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:18,200 add one that I know people love, and I actually 329 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,119 had someone write the show about this, asking if this 330 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 plant was discontinued because it can be hard to find. 331 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:30,680 And the fact is Golden Shadows Dogwood Pagoda dogwood one 332 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,319 of our most beautiful and elegant plants in the proven 333 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:36,960 Winner's color choice line always in demand. We cannot keep 334 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:41,359 up with demand of this beautiful native small dogwood. It 335 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:45,759 is variegated yellow and green, and it thrives in the 336 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:50,400 shade and just makes the most beautiful kind of small tree. 337 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,160 It's just you have to see it to believe it. 338 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,039 So I know Adriana will put some photos of it 339 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,000 up on YouTube here, but if you're listening on podcasts 340 00:18:57,079 --> 00:18:59,839 or radio, you're definitely gonna want to check this plant out. 341 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,839 Speaker 1: See it brings up the point. Dogwood is a fabulous 342 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:06,640 understory or classic tree for shady conditions. 343 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it can do quite a lot. Yeah, Anna's magic 344 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:13,440 Ball Arborviti. Arbiviti's overall are quite shade tolerant. So with 345 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,720 something like Anna's Magic Ball or for Grain or tater tut, 346 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:20,599 these are both small round arborvidies in deep shade, they're 347 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,799 not going to be as dense and tight. They're going 348 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:25,039 to be slightly more open, but they're still going to 349 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:26,960 give you great shape and in the case of Anna's 350 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,359 Magic Ball, great color. The flowers of the kodiaktra villa 351 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,160 are bright yellow, so that's going to give you some 352 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,680 nice yellow color in the summer. And then of course 353 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,240 there's lemony lace elderberry, which the hondier climate, the more 354 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,759 shade that is going to need, but it's already quite 355 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:46,079 a shade tolerant plant. Now green obviously doesn't really need 356 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,400 too much padding here in our rainbow for shade. But 357 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,960 I do want to mention two fantastic evergreens for deep 358 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,440 shade even in that is boxwood and taxis if you 359 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,880 are in the north Cephalo Taxa if you are in 360 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:05,359 a hot climate. For blue, obviously we can go back 361 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,400 to the big leaf hydrangeas. There's lots and lots of 362 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,799 blue hydrangeas like Let's Dance Skyview, and of course lots 363 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:15,160 of others. But I did want to mention double play 364 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,680 blue kazoos. Spyria. Okay, this is kind of an unusual 365 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:25,880 type of spyria that has really dusty blue foliage. The 366 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,039 new growth comes out in all sorts of colors. It 367 00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:33,279 has huge white flower clusters in late spring, and it's 368 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,839 just a really nice colorful plant that's a little bit different, 369 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,680 kind of a twist on spyria. For purple, I was 370 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:46,079 kind of struggling. I was thinking hydrangeas, and then you 371 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,640 reminded me of the practically perfect in every way. Paisley 372 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,200 pup Lukothai. 373 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,279 Speaker 1: Performs incredibly in the shade. 374 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:57,559 Speaker 2: For me, now, this is a plant that's not going 375 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:00,680 to be purple all season long. It's mostly going to 376 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:05,160 have those purple tones during the cooler weather. So basically 377 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,920 you're probably thinking like October through March or thereabouts, maybe 378 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,000 even into April, especially if we have a season as 379 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,160 cool as we have had this one. But even when 380 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,559 it's not those purple colors, it's a beautiful variegated foliage, 381 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,720 and variegation, again, as we spoke about recently, always lights 382 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:23,839 up the shade. I don't think there is a better 383 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,839 use for variegation than in a shaded garden where it 384 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,960 can really bring that light. And very often, you know, 385 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,799 in some shade or as long as it gets some sun, 386 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,559 variegation really shines. I think at its best you don't 387 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:39,599 have to worry about those paler parts burning in the 388 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,599 hot sun. And you know, again it contributes all that light. 389 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:44,880 And then I wanted to add white because you know, 390 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,519 of course this is very important. Mimona, Whygela, Whygella are 391 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:51,720 not a shade plant by any stretch, except for these 392 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:56,039 variegated ones that have so much white on them, very 393 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,920 susceptible to burning in the sun, especially in hotter areas, 394 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,759 so you can actually try Mymona Ygla in some shade. 395 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,799 And then of course one of my favorite hydrange of Courseifolia, 396 00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:09,839 oak leaf hyderrange, any of our Gatsby series has beautiful, big, 397 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,519 bodacious white flowers in the summer. 398 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:16,559 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up white because when you read 399 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,599 about shade in gardening, many times the recommendation is to 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,000 add white, whether it's a white painted fence or whatever 401 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:26,480 it may be. 402 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:29,079 Speaker 2: So it's a difference white furniture, white bench. 403 00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:29,519 Speaker 1: Yep. 404 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: So hopefully that inspired all of our shade hars out there. 405 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,319 We're going to take a little break. 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There is a contact form 423 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,720 right there. 424 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:36,039 Speaker 1: Now. 425 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: You know, Rick and I can get pretty excited when 426 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,599 we're talking about various topics, and you know, we kind 427 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,359 of go off on a tangent. We are too strongly 428 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,799 opinionated gardeners with our own perspective, and I think that 429 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,200 sometimes in our excitement we may perhaps misrepresent our actual opinion. 430 00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:01,799 It happens, and I'm great ul to listener Jeff who 431 00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:05,039 wrote to us with this feedback. He says, Hello, Rick 432 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:07,079 and Stacey. I watch your show every week on YouTube. 433 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,920 Thank you, Jeff. It's the best gardening show that's so sweet, 434 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,519 fun and entertaining. But also solid knowledge from both of you. 435 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,759 So I was watching a recent show where you were 436 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,000 talking about and hating on rock and stone in the garden. 437 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:21,240 I love rock and stone as an accent in my garden. 438 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,359 It would not be the same without it. What I 439 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,519 would never do is put plants in a stone border. 440 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,960 They are a standalone accent to my garden. Bed One 441 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 bed even came from Michigan beach rocks. It is fantastic, 442 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,559 especially when they're wet. Oh yeah, I am a Potasky 443 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,799 stone hunter in a parking lot. When it's wet, you 444 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,799 will find me combing over all those beds. I will 445 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,400 send you a couple photos of my yard. So I 446 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,640 wanted to read this on air for two reasons. Number 447 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,519 one because I'm terribly sorry if Rick and I misrepresented 448 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,480 our actual view. What Jeff has done is absolutely beautiful, 449 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:54,880 and we love that. You know. One of the things 450 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,559 that I really miss about living in New York is 451 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:03,160 the amount of stone everywhere, walls and bedrock outcroppings, and 452 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,079 we don't have a whole lot of that down here 453 00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:08,720 in the Lower Peninsula. It's especially out in West Michigan, 454 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:11,279 where any rock that we have is completely buried in 455 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:16,839 glacial till and everything is way way down there. And yes, Jeff, 456 00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:20,480 you're absolutely right. What we object to is the use 457 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,920 of rock as a mult over the entire landscape bed. 458 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 And that's for a couple of reasons. Number one for me, 459 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:33,079 because it's most often associated with landscape fabric or weed barrier, 460 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,599 which is terrible for plants and doesn't even actually keep 461 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:43,160 weeds down. Rocks can get quite hot and make it difficult, 462 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,039 you know, it can, especially around hydranges and some sensitive plants. 463 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,839 It can really warm up the temperature around them and 464 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,200 fry them. Rock can hold too much moisture or make 465 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,160 it difficult for the soil to wet. And it's expensive. 466 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,759 It's hard to put on, hard to put in, and 467 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:04,079 it's even harder to take out. So for those reasons, 468 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,440 we do object to rock is emulch. But what Jeff 469 00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,519 is doing I wanted to read this because I wanted 470 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,319 you to see all of the really cool things that 471 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,519 he has done in his yard with the rocks that 472 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:16,480 he has collected. So I think little accents like this 473 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,960 and pathways are absolutely beautiful. I am a rock hoarder. 474 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,519 I will come out and admit this on the show 475 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:28,640 My windowsills are full of rocks. My garden is full 476 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,119 of rocks. 477 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: I have the same thing, but they're all flat stones 478 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,240 because I love skipping stones. 479 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,079 Speaker 2: Ah see, that's good. So it's good to have a curation, right. 480 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,480 I know people who will only collect heart shaped rocks. 481 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,319 My brother in law collects meat shaped rocks. 482 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: That's a new one on me. 483 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: You can collect pink rocks, you know, but it's so 484 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,480 that way. You're not bringing home every rock that crosses 485 00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:53,519 your path, because you know, we've all been there. You're 486 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,079 on the beach, you're collecting rocks. Next thing, you know, 487 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:58,319 you can barely walk home because you're so laden down 488 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,799 with rocks in your pockets. 489 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,599 Speaker 1: I love Jeff reaching out to us and sharing that 490 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,759 information because I love stones and rocks in my landscape too. 491 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:10,160 Last year I spent a lot of money adding some 492 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,079 boulders and some rocks to my landscape. So it's just 493 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,319 the mulch aspect. 494 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: So do you think those were a rock solid investment? 495 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: Ooh, well done, Stacy, nicely done. Anyway, add that to 496 00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,200 my heartfolio. 497 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:33,039 Speaker 2: Okay, So thank you, Jeff, and I'm sorry to Jeff 498 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:36,240 into anyone else that we made you think we don't 499 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,759 absolutely love rocks. 500 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,759 Speaker 1: You know. It brings up a point though, would love 501 00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:44,119 to have not only the conundrums, but ideas. Send us 502 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000 some of your ideas too, and thank you, Jeff. As 503 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,319 a matter of fact, I had an idea working in 504 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 my yard yesterday. I was going to ask you about Stacy, 505 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,440 and that is I want to find a plant breeder 506 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,640 who will take on my project. My hearty banana is 507 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,599 coming out of the ground yay, amazing, And I was 508 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,000 planting like canoes and I'm thinking if I could cross 509 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:09,319 the cannas with the hardy banana, I could have cananas 510 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,079 and I could really market cananas in the landscape. So 511 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,119 help me find a plant breeder for that. 512 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's going to happen until crisper 513 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,960 technology evolves a lot more than it has been, because 514 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,119 you can not really cross easily to plants in different families. Yes, 515 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,599 and those are in two very different families. But you 516 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,960 can and say, you know, you can go over the 517 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,000 top with your with your idea here and do the 518 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,640 trifecta canna, banana and lantana. 519 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so. 520 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,359 Speaker 2: You can have your little rhyming gardens. 521 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,039 Speaker 1: See I knew you'd hear yours. 522 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: So we've also been hearing from a number of gardeners, 523 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,480 which is very common for this time of year. We're 524 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,799 getting a lot of questions, especially on El Nino, from 525 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,000 gardeners in colder climate who are seeing them behave a 526 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,400 bit like butterfly bush, and in fact they're seeing the 527 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,759 same kind of thing on their butterfly bush on their 528 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,480 carryopteris even things like lavender. And what these plants have 529 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,359 in common, they're kind of borderline hardy on the wood 530 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:17,480 that persists above ground. They're all shrubs, they all create 531 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,200 real wood. But if we have a really harsh winter, 532 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,279 which we did, it was brutal, Yeah, it was quite brutal. 533 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Then what can happen is these plants can die back 534 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480 to the ground. That doesn't mean they're dead, It just 535 00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:30,359 means they have died back to the ground. It can 536 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,680 also set them back so that they're very late to emerge. 537 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:37,400 And that's what's really happening in a lot of areas now. 538 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:39,640 I have to say, for my part, I have been 539 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:45,400 rather shocked that after such a harsh winter my summerfic 540 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,519 Hibiscus are already emerging. Usually I don't usually see those 541 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:53,240 emerge until Memorial Day weekends. Well, mine are going bananas, 542 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,480 as it were. But okay, if you have one of 543 00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,960 these plants and they haven't shown signs of life yet, 544 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,079 it is still too early, especially here in Michigan and 545 00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:04,319 I imagine through most of the Upper Midwest. You know, 546 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960 we had an early spring, but it's mostly been cool. 547 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,240 It got warmer than usual earlier, but then it just 548 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,640 kind of stayed like in the forties, like low fifties. 549 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,799 So things are kind of in a suspended animation right now. 550 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:21,920 Don't try try to avoid the temptation to cut them 551 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,119 back early. Let them show you where they are alive. 552 00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,559 My all mean, you know, just started showing new signs 553 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,880 of growth, probably in the past week or so, and 554 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,599 so what you're going to want to do is let 555 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,839 that growth show you where it is, let it come 556 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,039 out of the stems, let it get going a little 557 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,400 bit more, and then you can go ahead and cut 558 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,079 back to wherever you would like, just above a bud. 559 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,599 So patience is key. I know that it can be 560 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,680 very hard to have when everything else in your garden 561 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:50,759 is looking lush and green and fantastic and you just 562 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,359 have this pile of sticks that doesn't seem to want 563 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,440 to grow, but sometimes you know, just like people, they 564 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720 need a little bit more time to show you what 565 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:05,799 they're made of. Patience is the order for your El Nino, Buddleia, carriopters, 566 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,839 anything like that. 567 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,119 Speaker 1: Well said. Stacy June writes to us, Hello, I'm a 568 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,079 huge fan of your show. The information you provide is 569 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:17,119 extremely helpful and your jokes and delivery are very enjoyable. 570 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:20,920 Thank you very mulch. I have a question regarding German 571 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,599 irises that I just bought. I thought the rhizome should 572 00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,079 be slightly above the soil level. However, these are planted 573 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:30,839 in the container with no rhizome showing above the ground. 574 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,279 The people at the nursery told me to plant them 575 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,920 at the same level they were at in the container. 576 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,960 While planting them, I saw that there are very small 577 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:43,640 rhizomes underneath the soil. How should I plant these German irises? 578 00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,599 Thanks so much for your help. 579 00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,599 Speaker 2: Right, so great question, and for those of you, this 580 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680 is a plant that is often known by different names, 581 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,839 so it's the same thing as bearded iris. I tend 582 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,400 to call them bearded iris. I actually had to look 583 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,599 up and make sure that I was talking about the 584 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880 same plant that June was asking about. But yes, so 585 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,559 same plant, German iris, bearded iris. And yes, indeed these 586 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,200 plants should absolutely be planted with their rhizomes just at 587 00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,680 or just below the soil surface. I looked it up 588 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,960 on the Iris Society website just to make sure that 589 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,079 this is like actually a thing and not just what 590 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,119 I have continually witnessed. Sure, and they said absolutely they 591 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000 should be just above or barely below the surface, with 592 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,799 one or two exceptions extremely hot climates. And I believe, 593 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:33,759 I don't know June, if you let us know where 594 00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:36,359 you were located. So if you live in a hot climate, 595 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,279 that rhizome should be buried a little bit more deeply 596 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,599 to protect it from the desiccating effects of the sun 597 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,599 and sun burn, or if you have very light soil 598 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,000 that is likely to erode and expose a lot of that. 599 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,160 In those cases they can be covered up by up 600 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,440 to one inch of soil, but they should be showing. 601 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480 And you know, sometimes there are a number of things 602 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,599 that from the garden center, from the grower might have 603 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,839 too much soil. There's a lot of things that could happen, 604 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,559 and in that case, you as the gardener, are in 605 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,519 the position to make some corrective decisions and actually go 606 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,640 ahead and remove that access soil plant it so those 607 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,359 rhizomes are again just below the soil surface, that might 608 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,759 be removing some of that. There's other plants for this 609 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,359 is really important too, just a quick list. So if 610 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,559 you're buying any of these plants and they are deeply 611 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,279 buried in the container, you're going to want to correct 612 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,920 that when you plant pe andies. Obviously a huge one. 613 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:35,720 Number one reasons that iris and ponies don't bloom is 614 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,559 if they're planted too deeply. Trees, especially Japanese maples, you 615 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,640 need to make sure you're seeing that root flare or 616 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,720 kind of green buttress area, achinaesia, anything that needs good drainage. 617 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,960 All should be planted at or slightly above the soil, 618 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:55,039 especially if you have clay soil, even if in the 619 00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:58,799 container they are a little bit below, and even if 620 00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:00,920 normally you would put them exactly at the same level 621 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,279 they were at. 622 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,119 Speaker 1: And let me add stacey one thing to that, and 623 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,760 that is don't mulch too deeply there and in the 624 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,519 case of iris, skip the mulch if at all possible. 625 00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,119 In my opinion, those rhizomes as that clump fills out 626 00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,639 are going to continue to push their way to the surface. 627 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,000 But if you pile on six inches of mulch, it's 628 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:22,679 not going to work. 629 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,039 Speaker 2: No, and it's not going to be good for the 630 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:27,639 iris or for you. So correct, Yes, the burying goes 631 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,880 for the mulch as well as for the soil. Thank 632 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,800 you all so much for your questions. We're going to 633 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000 take a break. When we come back, we're continuing our 634 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,000 talk on color in the shade, so please stay tuned. 635 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,440 Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified podcast, brought to 636 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,519 you by Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning 637 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,599 flowering shrubs and evergreens are trialed and tested by experts 638 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,599 with your success in mind. Learn more at Proven Winners 639 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,719 color Choice dot com. 640 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,599 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardenings Implified show. As we continue 641 00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:05,039 to talk about color in the shade, Stacy, you know 642 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,440 my approach to using fall leaves and grinding them up 643 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,760 and using them in the landscape ideal for a shade 644 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,599 garden because again we need to think woodland, floor and 645 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:23,000 organic matter, nutrient rich humus to add to our success. 646 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Here's a few other quick pointers bright color backdrops fences 647 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:32,400 or walls to reflect some light. Maybe hire an arborist 648 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:36,679 in winter to limb up some trees to add to 649 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,280 the dappled light provided to your garden. Some people will 650 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,519 disagree with this, and that is fine. But add some 651 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,000 landscape lighting. I love landscape lighting in a dark shaded area. 652 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:57,119 Adding colorful containers, a stone path and using the grout 653 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:02,239 between the stones. I'm gonna call it as some type 654 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,559 of light colored groundcover in between the stones. Maybe a 655 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,360 light colored green really adds to the color. Let moss 656 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,000 do its thing where it wants to, because moss can 657 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:19,480 be somewhat luminiscent, luminescent, and then a hardscape feature that 658 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,880 is a bright color. I mean, obviously, Stacy, we see 659 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360 this in Japanese gardens all the time, with the bright 660 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,079 red lantern right, yeah. 661 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,559 Speaker 2: Or stone lanterns. There's lots of different ways, you know. 662 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,440 I think I was really thinking about Japanese gardens earlier 663 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,599 in the show when I was saying that green is 664 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,400 a color. And yes, many Japanese gardens have flowering shrubs 665 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000 perennials in them that kind of offer some seasonal color. 666 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,559 But for the most part, a Japanese garden is very 667 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:47,400 much characterized by the use of green. 668 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Daylilies and hostas, of course, are the kings 669 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:57,400 of the shade as far as perennials are concerned, Boy 670 00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,239 Empress Wu just because of the sheer eyes of the plant. 671 00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:04,239 But I guess we're gonna have to call the queen. 672 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,880 Maybe arguably ferns would be one and a still be 673 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,039 would be another. 674 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:14,199 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And you know, I love ferns, and I 675 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,800 do actually have several ferns that are really thriving in 676 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,400 my dry shade. And you know, you're talking about sort 677 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,760 of this this concept of the woodland understory. That's one 678 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,079 of the reasons why finding plants for dry shade can 679 00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,719 be so difficult, because they tend to be sort of yeah, 680 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,719 these understory plants that are used to at least some 681 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,719 consistent moisture. So if you have, you know, a dune 682 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,719 garden like I do with some shade, then yeah, it 683 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,639 can be hard. But I find ferns do well. I have, 684 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,280 you know, in a moment of misguided hope, tried a 685 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,960 still be. I've tried Goat's beard, another great plant for 686 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,320 deep shade, and I do not have the moisture and 687 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,480 I'm done trying. But they are such a lovely, lovely choice. 688 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:59,280 If you do have you know, clay soil irrigation or 689 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,800 any company of the two. 690 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,159 Speaker 1: I agree well for that dry shade, Stacey, we could 691 00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:09,920 go to epimedium barren wart Hugs and Kisses is a 692 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,920 great new variety, or a woodland elf, any of those 693 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,159 barren warts. Great. 694 00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,119 Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with any epimedium. They are just 695 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,800 such absolutely lovely and elegant plants, you know. Unfortunately for me, 696 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:31,880 the rabbits are loving the flowers. So despite the fact 697 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,599 that I have a variety called sandy Claws, which is 698 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,719 very prickly and is obviously great for animal resistance. But man, 699 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239 I tell you, those bunnies are very skilled with their 700 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,079 little teeth and they can just get in there and 701 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,639 take out the flower stem and run away without getting, 702 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,079 you know, jabbed by the epimedium leaves. But a great 703 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,920 choice now, Epimedium, not unlike the Hakana kloa that we 704 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,400 were talking about earlier, another plant that's slow to get established. 705 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,000 You do have to kind of put in your tongue 706 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,559 very true to get this plant established in your dry shade. 707 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,000 Once you do it's hands off. You know. I have 708 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,639 a great plant that I adore for dry shade, and 709 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,320 I've talked about it before, but it amazes me anew 710 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,519 every single year that this plant does as well as 711 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,159 it does in such dry shade. Variegated Solomon seal. Yes, 712 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,679 I mean, I have so much of this plant. It 713 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,960 happily reproduces every single year with little to no irrigation, 714 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,800 looks stunningly elegant from the time that those bright pink 715 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,039 buds kind of start emerging from the soil all the 716 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,840 way till when it turns yellow and goes dormant in 717 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,199 the fall. You know, It's one of those things that, 718 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,119 you know, as I get more mature in my gardening perspective, 719 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,400 I'm just really really grateful for the things that do 720 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,239 so well. You know. I try and I experiment, but 721 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,719 then I just feel like, you know, I just want 722 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,239 to give that plan a hug and thank it for 723 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,599 doing so well in my garden. 724 00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: I like that, I do. Yeah. Heaven sent Jacob's ladder 725 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,920 is a favorite plant of mine. Day Lilies primal scream put. 726 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,159 Speaker 2: Some of that that is, you know, I don't like 727 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,199 day lilies, No, that is the one day Lily. I like, yes, 728 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,960 it is a question a red spider or the spider 729 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,760 one that they have at Walters as well, But Primal 730 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,000 Scream is pretty great. But I love orange in the garden, so. 731 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia, Love Virginia, and a shade garden gives you 732 00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,480 a great color and spring and of course Jack Frost, 733 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,719 Jack of Diamonds, Queen of Hearts, Brunera, that's going to 734 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,639 really brighten up the place if you use those Yes. 735 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: You know, I just got an idea ICs. I think 736 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,960 in a future episode we should do one of our 737 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,679 speed rounds. Yes, and it will be killed it, because 738 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,039 you know, I'm feeling like, as we're going through this 739 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:47,320 list of plants for shade, you could ask me a 740 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,119 lot of these, I'd be like, killed it, killed it, 741 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,159 killed it. And I think this could be a fun, 742 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,480 a fun list. 743 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: I think it's great. 744 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 2: I think we can come up with our lists for 745 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,159 each other and we'll speed around each other on whether 746 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,920 or not we killed it. 747 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: I like that if if you haven't killed any plants, 748 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,679 you're not trying hard enough, so you are so right now. 749 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000 Of course, if we want color and shade a go 750 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,079 to of course in spring summer and fall in our 751 00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:14,280 landscapes on our decks. Is to plant some annuals. You 752 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,760 and let's get some annuals in the shade. They're gonna 753 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:25,320 guarantee us color Autumnow Fusia that plant, oh, out of 754 00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:29,079 hanging basket. You know. The foliage has this autumn color 755 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,119 to it with little red flowers. Love that. I love 756 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:36,119 Fuchias in general, perfect for shade, hard to heart kalladiums. 757 00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:41,199 Bogonia is not a foreign country. You should use Bogonias 758 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,519 in the shades. Selenia, rager Bogonias, sure fire Bogonias, dragon 759 00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:52,519 wing Begonias, space age rex Bogonias, non stop bagonias. 760 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,199 Speaker 2: Pogonias are so wonderful. Oh. I was just shopping with 761 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,960 my mom for plants last weekend and in love with them. 762 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,519 But that is another thing I can't try because of 763 00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:07,880 the deer. They love pogonias that are nice and watery 764 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,559 and succulent, and boy do they love to show those 765 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,800 things down. But my mom got the most beautiful pogonia 766 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,519 for her planters. It's a black leaf and a bright 767 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,639 orange flower. And as we were walking through the garden center, 768 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,920 people were like stopping us to ask where we got it. 769 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,159 That is so beautiful. Yeah, yeah, so beautiful. So I'm 770 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,599 very excited to see how they do this year. 771 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Bogonia Boston nova. It is a pendulating 772 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,400 type of bogonia. Any of your tuberous pogonias for me? 773 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,400 When I went to boot Yard Gardens in British Colymbia, 774 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:48,400 thank you, I'm lost boy. Their exhibit of tuberous pogonias 775 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,239 was on. 776 00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh, and I'll bet they thrive there. I bet they 777 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,800 just do well. I mean, most things are going to 778 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,559 thrive in that climate, but I can imagine those are 779 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,079 especially nice. We are so spoiled for choice for outdoor 780 00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,159 bogonias right now. It is a gold age of pogonias, 781 00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:03,599 and if you don't have dear, you should absolutely take 782 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:04,360 advantage of it. 783 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: I remember as a garden center owner just being dejected 784 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,920 in two eleven, twoenty twelve when the whole downy mildew 785 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,960 thing came through in Europe and the United States, wiping 786 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,880 out impatience Waaleriana, and then we're told you're not going 787 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,840 to be able to sell these anymore or grow them 788 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,960 in your garden. It was just so frustrating. Fortunately you can, 789 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,519 and the Rockapoco series of Impatience Stacy. When I show 790 00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,840 them to people in the greenhouse, they love them because 791 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:43,159 the impatient blooms and it is an impatience. Waaleriana are 792 00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,599 almost like miniature roses. Yeah, so pretty. 793 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are really cool. 794 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: Do you grow bro Walia? 795 00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:51,599 Speaker 2: I just got some, you know, I've had so much 796 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,760 trouble finding it for the last couple of years because 797 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,159 I do love it, and it is, honestly, I think 798 00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:59,679 one of the best annuals I've ever seen for shade. 799 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:03,159 It was deer resistant for me. Comes in white or 800 00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:07,239 this beautiful kind of periwinkle blue. They're both gorgeous plants 801 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,280 and just flowers. It's head off in the shade like 802 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,719 nothing else. So I'm very excited to have it back 803 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,320 and it will be on my front porch this year. 804 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,159 Speaker 1: That's great love. I love that. Yeah, it's touted as 805 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,280 a great substitute for impatience if you are struggling with 806 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,360 downy mildew. Of course we have to mention colius. I 807 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,519 like to grow the color blaze Colius out in the 808 00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,239 full sun, but we should mention that you can grow 809 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,880 it in the shade. Same applies to heart to heart kalladiums. 810 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,519 There are a number of them you can grow in 811 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:41,079 the sun. But a great plant for the shade Terenia 812 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,880 wishbone flour and then finally the hypostes. The polka dot 813 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,760 plant is another great annual choice in the shade. 814 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I not gonna lie. Had a little pity party 815 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,719 for myself in the garden centers when I was shopping 816 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,079 with my mom, because colius is another thing that the 817 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,320 deer love, and I I saw so many beautiful colias 818 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,800 that I dearly wish that I could grow. Same with turina. 819 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,239 They ate the heck out of the trainia. They ate 820 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960 the heck out of the polkadot plant. So the browelia 821 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:12,400 is like my one flower for my shady front porch 822 00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,239 that the deer won't eat and will flower. So again, 823 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,679 I'm grateful for what I can do and try and 824 00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:20,920 have one little pity party for myself over the stuff 825 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,880 I can't and then move on. 826 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: Excellent. And that's a great way to cap it off, Stacy, 827 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,840 because shade gardening is an attitude. 828 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: Right it is absolutely Yeah. 829 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,559 Speaker 1: Thank you Stacy, thank you Rick, thank you Adriana, and 830 00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,719 thank you for watching us on YouTube, listening to us 831 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,320 on the radio, or downloading our podcast. Have yourself a 832 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:39,960 great week.