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Speaker 1: What is up? Fela Siko's I am damn Valley coming

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at you with to one the only this certified fantabulous,

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mister Grant. Use the off season look ahead train continues.

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After a brief respite for Finals basketball slash, the Orlando

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Magic and the Memphis Grizzlies just going insane during set finals,

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we're onto the Portland Trailblazers, who the not so secretly

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stacked anymore Portland Trailblazers, Grant, you remember that video we

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recorded last offseason. They called us mad men, only for

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us to just beat right like Alan.

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Speaker 2: Some aggressive back patting over here. We got it. We

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did it, Hey, look at us, we did it.

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Speaker 1: I honestly dislocated my shoulder twice patting myself on the back.

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So off worth it. So my question to kind of

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start off here, Grant, before we dig into their cap sheet,

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could the Blazers just be the NBA's biggest wildcard of

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the off season? And they don't have my justifications of this, No,

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they're not. They don't have a Kevin Durant or a

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Yiannis to trade, but they've already shown that as a

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team that's quote unquote rebuilding they're not afraid to give

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up future draft equity. They did that with Denny Avdia

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last year. They were a top five defense and played

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five hundred basketball for basically half of the season last year.

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And then the other thing that I don't think is

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being talked about enough, at least not you know where

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we exist on the national level. Joe Cronin and Chauncey

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Billups got extensions, so that implies security. But with the

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franchise up for sale, could there just be pressure to

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get better so that it increases the price tag or

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the appeal of this franchise. And so when you have

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all of that in one hand, and then the knowledge

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that they just have all these kind of movable contracts

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or good salary matching stuff, they have first round picks,

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so the commitment to Chicago's a little awkward. Will get

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into that. Do you think that there's a chance that

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this is like a team that could I think we're

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in for the most craziest offseason ever. Some people are saying,

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but like, is this a team that sort of built

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to shock and surprise this summer?

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Speaker 2: I think it is, because it's this is the core

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question is very much for me, is very much related

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to everything you just talked about and their whole like

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wild card status. It's like, what as an organization do

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you make of that closing run where the defense looked great?

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like they were twenty three and eighteen or something like

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that down you know, down the stretch or there was

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a stretch in the closing run that was slightly better

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than five hundred, But it was critically fueled by the

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young guys, like they were playing the younger players. It

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wasn't like it was like Jeremy Grant led this charge down.

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So like, what do you take from that as Portland?

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And then how does that inform your plans? And I

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think the answer for me right now is I don't know,

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because I did Portland is like the King of the

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was that real? Like the March April run, Like it's

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Jalen Green has the crown for that. But it's like

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Anthony Simons has done it, Scoot has kind of done it.

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quitting or whatever. So it's just like this is a

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very Portland thing to be talking about, and so maybe

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they should be very on guard for not and to

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make sure they don't like overestimate what this closing run means.

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But the fact that it happened and the fact that

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it was the young guys fueling it, I think puts

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everything we're going to talk about on the table, whether

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that's salary dumps, whether that's extensions for some of these

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young guys, whether it's consolidation trades, like, it's just all

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kind of there. So they the Blazers are weirdly like

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a centerpiece offensive team, except I don't know, like what

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what types of deals they're even interested in at this point.

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Speaker 1: They I want them to just be like they honest

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team like this, wouldn't that be Yeah, that'd be so fun.

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Just sort of off season vitals as we like to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they've got about eleven point eight just call

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it twelve million under the tax no rant, Okay, I'll

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be more precise going forwards, seventeen point eight million beneath

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the first apron. That includes the capital they have for

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a lottery protected first O to Chicago, but they can trade.

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eight through twenty thirty essentially, so fairly asset rich pickwise.

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of varying size depending on how big of a deal

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you're looking at. So decent financial position, decent flexibility, good

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pick equity. This is all just like the snowball rolling

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down the transaction hill. I guess right, they got to

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Speaker 1: Right, and I would agree, and I think what is

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some of the contract decisions of their role that they

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have to make to do make these extensions. Are these

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players keepers because do you need to include them in

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certain trades? What is the view of them. I'm going

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to pre emble this by saying we are not covering

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the extension eligibility of DeAndre and Robert Williams. The third

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orbitiz thigh, But like, that's just if you're extending any

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one of those. I love, you know, I'm r W

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three pilled, but that dude needs to stay on the court.

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Before I'm talking about an extension, I think the most

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important one would be shade and sharp. He is extension eligible.

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point five million, his five year max would be two

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hundred and forty six point seven million. They could include

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language that would bump that up to ninety six, like

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the you know, the All NBA special grant. How much

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is he worth to you? And like what is the

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number that is? I don't know if you're if it's

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your walk away point or you're pouncing out however you

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for a stricted free agency to see one how he's doing,

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two how the Blazers themselves are doing. And also we

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know that we just haven't seen restricted free agency offer.

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let the market set his rate and match or just

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know that you maintain flexibility and you could just sign

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him then.

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Speaker 2: So I think if there's an extension offer that Portland

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is willing to make, it's probably one that Sharp wouldn't accept.

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at the Jalen Green extension and I'm saying it's got

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to be like seventy five percent of that tops, just

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because they have just like from ten thousand feet similar

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player types. And you have less information about Sharp because

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he played thirty two games two years ago and wasn't

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he and has not been like a locked in full

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time starter basically ever. So I mean, he started fifty

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two of seventy two last year, so you have it's

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just eight last year's age twenty one season. Like I

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it's got to be restricted free agency. I don't so

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if it's like we'll do a two Jalen Green example,

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two plus one eighty million dollars, he's not taking that.

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of acknowledge we need more information, especially if we think

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we're gonna be like a little bit more competitive. What

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a team that is going to need him to defend

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and need him to be a better playmaker like all

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that stuff that. I mean, there's a world where the

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numbers you've got up here, four for one to ninety seems,

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you know, it seems beyond insane right now. But like

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maybe he has a great fourth year and it matters

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to the Blazers, and the Blazers are good, and it's

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like both sides are happy with that. So I think

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restricted free agency is the way to go, which is

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anti climactic because we're talking about his extension helgibility right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess I'm just be curious, like what

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is the just because he's, like you said, played thirty

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two games a season ago, he hasn't had like the

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cleanest the dude can score and the type we all

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know about the above the rim stuff, but the types

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of shots he's able to get off and sometime sometimes

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makes are insane. And then when you also watch him,

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he can make those tough shots, but you don't feel

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like he ever is gonna need to dominate the ball.

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get what did Jalen Suggs get That was too low?

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Speaker 2: In one hundred one hundred. Yeah, So like.

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Speaker 1: Would you go four for one thirty? Like does that

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get him to sign? No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, he might sign, he might sign that. I'm not

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offering that if I'm Portland. No way, I'm I'm I'm

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way under one hundred, Like I'm way under if it's

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like I'm trying to I'm low balling honestly if I'm

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Portland because I don't think I don't think he's shown enough.

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right now, you can't treat him like, oh, he's absolutely

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a core piece. I would be curious what Portland fans

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whatever you can, But I think most Portland fans would say, like,

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there are at least enough questions here to where it

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would be nice to have another year of information.

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Speaker 1: I agree that I'd wait for restricted free agency. I

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do think four years and one hundred and twenty would

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if I'm Portland, probably gets me thinking I'm not a lie,

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so sharp should take that. The other another extension eligible

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candidate Tamani Kamara, and he's fascinating just because as a

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second round pick, there's some different options they can use

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he's eligible of starting. I think it's like July twenty

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if or something four years and eighty nine point two

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million dollars that extension would kick in during twenty twenty seven,

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twenty twenty eight, I believe, and so, but you could

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also go the route of he has those like two

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cheap years, So it's like, do you let him play

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matching rights, and then sort of just pay him. Then

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with if you're Portland, would you just offer four for

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eighty nine?

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Speaker 2: Like? Is he worth that?

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Is the better question? Would you be willing to pay

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four for eighty nine for a guy that just kind

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of looks like he's a thirty seven percent three point

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shooter as an all defense guy that can guard everybody

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is that. Is that a fair market value? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

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a question of timing and do you do you want

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to have another cheap year if you can, do you?

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the move is absolutely to just game it. So he

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that's and then and then you just maybe you might

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get him cheaper because who knows what the market is

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gonna gonna offer for a play. He's like, he's never

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gonna be a twenty point guy, right, Like he's never

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gonna be a more than like a like a what

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option on offense? Fourth maybe, and like he might just

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be an elite three and D with emphasis on the defense.

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command as a restricted free agent. I would be willing

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because he's already twenty. This season coming up will be

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his age twenty five season, so like the clock he's

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what we just want him like cost control for the

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next two years, and so we're just gonna let his

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float until he's actually a free agent, would be h

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that'd be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I will not let him get

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to unrestricted free agency.

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Speaker 1: The final extension was well, Kennedy, we're gonna talk about

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and I actually think he's more interesting following the Desmond

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bain trade. You want to talk to Anthony Simon's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is extension eligible because if you if you blink,

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like everybody is, which is the most bizarre thing. It's

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just here, it's always shocking who's extension eligible. He can

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start signed for a starting salary on a max deal

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of thirty seven point eight million. He but like he's

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been the guy we've all been trying to trade forever,

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uh to Orlando specifically, to Orlando specifically, So that's off

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the table. So I guess you just you just maxim

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and just say like, so, well, maybe maybe he'll be

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traded that. I mean, part of the reason he was

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in addition to the skill set was that, like his

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deal was movable. What was it twenty five a year? Basically,

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Uh so I don't have I should have it in

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front of me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think next season he's on the books for

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it because it was I believe it was upscaleing. He's

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on the books for twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven seven, twenty seven to seven, so coming off his

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so he'll be twenty six. I just like he's said,

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he is a weirdly hard player to evaluate, just because.

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Speaker 1: Just the same money if it was four for one

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hundred again, is that where you're out, Like, would you

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I do that?

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Speaker 2: I would do that again. I think I might be

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a little offended if I were him, just because it's

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like I'm now entering my my prime and U or

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I guess he's probably already entered it. But the next

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deal will take him through his trime basically, and with

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the cap going up, you're basically cutting you're offering him

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a pay cut, which he's done. You know, he's just

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Anony Simons has been Anthony Simons this whole time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, four for one four, so it's twenty six million

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dollars year.

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Speaker 2: I would offer that. I think he's movable at that

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number is really the main reason I still don't. Well,

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what do you think do you think Simons is someone

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that Portland should view as like a key piece with

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with having scooed on the roster and you have Shaden

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Sharp that you've got to think about, is he still

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someone that's like more than a third guard? You know,

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a year or two from now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And because I don't know, I think

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I lean towards keeping him because right now, who is

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the player that has the combination of on and off

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ball gravity that he does as a shooter. There's nobody

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else on this roster that does that. And I think

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also he's in the final year of his deal. I

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bet you'd get first a first round pick for him.

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If you want to get more than that, you're probably

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looking at like you're taking on a KCP type deal.

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Nothing like too toxic, but it's not a contract you're

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chomping at the bit to have on your books, Like

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wouldn't he be unless the extensions outrageous where it's like

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forty million dollars a year or something. Isn't there a

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case for me that he would be more valuable to

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you as a trade asset as well if he's on

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a longer contract.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, for sure, because otherwise he's a rental and

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that those guys just don't return the same value. I

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think two, I think I'm with you if I'm hearing

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what you're saying, Like you extend him to preserve the asset,

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like we like to say, and like make you know

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that's a big number that you not big, but like

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a big enough number that you could use in a trade.

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And he's more valuable if he's got more years on

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the deal. Is there a case to be made that

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with a Portland team that presumably is gonna have Donovan

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Klinging playing more and maybe maybe being like one of

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those elite defensive anchors in the middle that has a

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lot of minutes going to guys like Kamara and out

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Ovdia and maybe Tybole plays a lot more. A player

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likes Simon's whose weaknesses are on defense, like and Who's

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whose strengths on offense are really badly needed on a

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roster like this, he might is there is there value

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like in He's just no, he's a piece that we

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need around because of what he does and because of

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how we can hide his deficiencies.

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Speaker 1: I think unless Shandon Sharp and Scoot, I think you're

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thrown here to take like more leaps as offensive players.

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I honestly think, like that's the call right now, because

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you can even say, well until they acquire somebody who

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does what Simon's does at a higher level, and it's well,

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it's not just that, like you need more than like

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one like dead eye shooter on this team, and you

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just don't really like, yeah, there are guys that hit

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them at a high enough clip, but no one is

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being guarded the way that Anthony Simons would do. And

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so ideally you want two of those guys. And when

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you look at the roster, if you had a bet

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on anyone, who's there turning into that Like that wasn't

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even Scoot's profile coming into the league when everyone was

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highest on him. So Shandon Sharp is probably your next

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best bet there. I think you're onto something to where

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it's all right, he's not no, not an untouchable member

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of the core. I don't even know if the Blazers

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have any truly untouchable players, to be honest to Monty

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Kamara because of the value. But like, if we're getting

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down to prea, I don't know that they have any

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untouchable players. But I look at this and say, if

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they're not trying to tank, like, they need Anthony Simons

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because he's he does stuff that nobody else on this

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team has shown they can do consistently. And it's like,

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I know his percentages can wax and wane. The way

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he's guarded is just fundamentally different than a lot of

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other players on this team.

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Speaker 2: Very true, and this is a specific example of what

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we talked about up front of like if you said,

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if they are not going to tank, like I don't

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think they're tanking, and that means that they sort of

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believe that they're close to the season was real And

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if that's true and you want to be as good

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or better, Simons sort of needs to still be there.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what you're just like teeing us up with great

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segues here. So look, well, I think the biggest question is,

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so what do you think they will do or should

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do this offseason when it comes to the transaction market.

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Is it, are you, I would call them, I think

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you boil it down to are you just looking to

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maybe cut off some of the veteran salaries so that

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you can open up even more minutes for maybe some

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inbound youngsters or flyers that you take, or you being

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more let's not say aggressive buyers, but opportunistic buyers to

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where it's like the dendiovdia situation is that you're it's not, oh,

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it falls into our lap. They actively sought out that situation.

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So it was opportunistic, but it was like an aggressive opportunism.

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But they're not the team that it's No, then you

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need to go give up four first round picks for

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Kevin Durant right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. And really, if you look

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at like the way that their roster is structured and

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the payroll looks, it's like they are kind of more

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like they've got that massive expose. What's eight in making

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thirty five in the last year of his deal, and

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you've got Simons if they don't extend him, that's at

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twenty seven in the last year of his deal. You know,

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the Robert Williams thirteen, Like they've got all these numbers

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it's like you should package these up and send them

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somewhere with a couple of picks, and you could go

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really big game hunt if you wanted to. I don't

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feel like that's the move for them, so like just

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to keep it boring. Sorry, Like what they need is

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shooting and it could come at any position and if

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you can unjam the center position so that clinging is

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just he's our guy, and then we have just at

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least not all three of Duopreath and Ayton and Robert

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Williams in the mix there, Like if you can unclog that,

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you can add some shooting. There were twenty six and

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three point percentage last year their midpack in attempts for

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one hundred, so they're getting them up. Like their processes. Okay,

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the results have been bad. Get shooting, ditch at least

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one of the bigs, and then like kind of see

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what you have. That's that's kind that would kind of

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be my like three step plan for the Blazers offseason.

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Speaker 1: Is there like an deal archetype of player that you

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would want to see on this roster if they do

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decide that, we're trying to be like really firmly in

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the play in mix next year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you can skew like pretty offense

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heavy slash offense only because I like their front court defensively.

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Speaker 1: So which is such a luck. By the way, Like

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if you're keeping Avdia, Kamara and Clinging just as an

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exact like you, there's just a ton of options that

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you can go after the trademarkt so.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, a Malik Beasley type, a Buddy Healed

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type of Corey Kisspert type, Like these are all different,

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you know, these some of these are trades, some of

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these are signings whatever. Uh. Those types of guys where

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it's like, yeah, we're giving back a little bit defensively,

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but we can we can accommodate that. Like those would

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be the types of players i'd target. Just someone who's

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gonna get threes up and make threes and keep the

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floor spaced, especially if Clinging's you're big and it doesn't

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look like he's gonna like tap into any kind of

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spacing game. And who knows if Kamara and Avdia will

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will be reliable three point shooters. Just someone that's really

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going to stretch the defense out, so you do have,

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you know, just kind of offsetting the strengths and weaknesses

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by adding like legit like scary shooting, I think would

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be the first thing I'd go for.

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Speaker 1: And it might be like even a Grace and Allen

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if Phoenix has literally cut money at some point. But

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I do wonder I think there's and there better be

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like a mandate to like put more on his shoulders

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next year in Scoot Henderson. But they could also kind

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of use like another like you know, Sharp or Avdia

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or like as your secondary creator type Simons as well.

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There might be room for like more of a true

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floor general to come off, Like assuming Scoot is just

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gonna be the full time starter, there's probably room for

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like a floor general type to come off the bench.

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But I think you hit it on the head for me,

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just like let's just surround all Like you look at

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the paint touches that you can get from Avdia and Scoot,

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like you just want to surround those guys with shooting.

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And if you also want to maximize, like Donovan Clinton

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has issues enough catching the ball and finishing, open up

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that space for him even more, Like you need shooting

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around these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you if you do, I mean like

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it's on the west coast, so maybe Chris Paul would

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be interested, like just someone like that one of the

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Jones is I'll just I'm never gonna refer to tyas Ortray.

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I'll just say one of them someone like that. I mean,

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if if Klington can't catch the ball, I think Chris

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Paul is one guy that would put it in the

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spots where he'd have the best odds. I've just thought

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of Chris Paul right now. I'm not like this is

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the guy, but that if you're not just going shooting,

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I think you're right. I think it is someone that

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can help the shooters you do have, get cleaner looks,

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help the bigs that you do have, you know, finish

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as well as their skills allow them to.

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Speaker 1: Would this be a Klay Thompson team if Dallas looks

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at trade Hmer, is that contract is not.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I don't think that contract is like crippling. Yeah,

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someone like that, that's whatever Klay Thompson still is. He's

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treated the same way by defenses.

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Speaker 1: I do think there are two obvious name they're free agents.

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I think they'd fall in like mid level territory Trey

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Man if he's healthy, some ad ball shake and then

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of course the off ball shooting and tijerome thisuld be

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a good Tiderroe, so you imagine him like within this defense.

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Those are the types of moves I would support, by

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the way, where it's if they have to trade a

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first round pick, sure, but like if you're getting into

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like multiple first round pick territory, I need to know,

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like what's the name that they're getting back as part

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of this, because I think one of the most dangerous

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things you can do is like fast track things too much,

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like over accelerate after having what you view as a

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promising season, right.

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Speaker 2: You still should agree, you still should have like just

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the healthiest little bit of hesitation in trusting the second

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half last year. I think you're gonna you can't act

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as if like just the arrow is angling up and

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there's no question about it. You don't know that yet.

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Speaker 1: You know what would be really interesting and they could

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almost just take them in without having to send out

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money by using exceptions. But like if they were giving

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Boston a first round pick and was like, Okay, here's

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Peyton Pritchard and Sam Hauser, and I was like.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm all over that. If I'm Portland that like,

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there's both your needs addressed and.

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Speaker 1: We just made the Blazer as a championship Contemputy.

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Speaker 2: Pritchard out of Oregon, Dan, I know you follow college basketball,

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but that would.

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Speaker 1: I obviously knew that, and that is not the first

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time I'm hearing this at all. So shout out to me.

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Who's the most likely player to be traded on this roster?

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Do you think there's like seven candidates for this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can like eight is let's go through

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Ayton expiring thirty five, Jeremy Grant. Just I mean, that's

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the guy that if you're Portland, that's the guy you

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probably would like to trade. He's got two more guaranteed

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at thirty two and thirty four, and then at thirty

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six million dollar player option. Is he likely to it?

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Just maybe it's just Robert Williams that the numbers right,

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it's thirteen million. He's at a position that they have

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a glut of players at. So I guess I'll just

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say Robert Williams. But I'm wondering if I'm overlooking somebody.

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Speaker 1: They need to free to oprief if they're not going

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to clear up some big man plenty of time, though

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that would be my stip. Honestly, I don't know if

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I would be able to. I want every team that

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basically needs a big to trade for r W three

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because I'm so RW three pilled. But then if I'm

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the Blazers, it's would you rather like hold out hope

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for lightning in a bottle than get two seconds? You're

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not getting a first round pick for him, right, unless

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you're taking back like an obscene salary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also not. I mean you'd probably Ayden's

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an interesting case. Maybe there's some situation out there that

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just wants that expiring deal. But I think you're paying

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to get off of Aton and Grant, right, Like maybe

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I think so. I think you're giving up assets on

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the way out to move those guys.

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Speaker 1: With eight, and the payment might be we're taking back

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money that extends past this year. Maybe I'm just gonna

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go with Matisse Stible because his numbers squarely in the middle,

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and so a team might not want Matisse Stible, but

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it's gonna be an expiring contract when he picks up

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the player option. And like the Blazers, because of the

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salary situation, they're in twelve million Bucks allows them to

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take back almost like a twenty million dollar player. So

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if that's a route they want to go and attach

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something to him, and that feels like kind of right

534
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up their alley. Like I said before, so like Matisse

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stible to Boston and a like first round pick for

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Peyton Prichard and Sam Haus or look there, you're done

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in Boston saves some money, but that I'll just go

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with that. There. This is a tough team to read

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in kind of a I would say an exciting way

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because it feels like anything just might be on the

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table under all the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: You have anything else on the Blazers or are you

544
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ready to take us out of here? Sir?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to take us out here. Look at us

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just being time efficient on Portland. We hit everything for us.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm sure some people are like, why wasn't this

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twelve as well?

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Speaker 2: How is this a twenty five minute five? Thanks everybody

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