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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another fifteen Minutes or less on World a Blaze.

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<v Speaker 1>and click those. Now, as far as Spotify is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now, this episode, the focus is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on terrorism. Why Well, this whole thing was prompted

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<v Speaker 1>by a discussion back and forth I had on x

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<v Speaker 1>and where people were literally blaming the US for terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East. The narrative the talking points these

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<v Speaker 1>days is that the US is responsible for all extreme

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<v Speaker 1>Islamist terrorist organizations. If it wasn't for the US involvement

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<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan, for example, in two thousand and one, when

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<v Speaker 1>the US declared war against terrorism, or the invasion of

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<v Speaker 1>Iraq or the war of I Rock. However, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at that, that these groups wouldn't exist, that

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't have terrorism. It's all because of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America that these terrorist organizations reared their ugly

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<v Speaker 1>head and are now waging terror across the planet. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to call bullshit on that. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do my best. As these are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be fifteen minutes or less, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>my best to condense the information that I found. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to deliver the facts and data. Now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go as deep as I'd like to, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably not as deep as you may want to, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to do a good job in

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<v Speaker 1>explaining the situation and the history of terrorism in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East. I had to write this out, so from

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<v Speaker 1>here on it may look like I'm reading from a

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<v Speaker 1>teleprompter or something I pretty much am or reading my

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<v Speaker 1>computer screen. I wanted to make sure that I got

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<v Speaker 1>my points how I wanted them. I didn't leave anything out,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't overdo it, but I still got enough data

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<v Speaker 1>and enough facts across to support what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say. So here we are terrorism in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East. Let's go through the history. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>first known Islamic group to have members labeled as terrorists

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<v Speaker 1>were the Hottajeat or courage Eat. So there isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>an English pronunciation for the group, so I'm really going

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<v Speaker 1>to say karaje Eat. So the Carajeats were the original

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<v Speaker 1>group that had members that became extreme Islamist terrorists. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>their views are that of a strict interpretation of the Quran.

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<v Speaker 1>They believed in opposing any leader or caliph and that

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<v Speaker 1>was deemed to be a sinner and did not abide

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<v Speaker 1>by strict Islamic or Sharia law. The extremists Carageites or

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<v Speaker 1>Karajeats terrorized and waged war against other Muslims. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>was all this? Now that is the question, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it's interesting. You see this extreme form of

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic terrorism, This started in the period between six fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six CE through twelve fifty eight CE twelve fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>SE and so well before the US was ever or

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<v Speaker 1>even a blip on the radar, well before the US

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<v Speaker 1>era became a nation, the United States of America never

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<v Speaker 1>even was a thought at that point. Islamic terrorism. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me correct that as well. Extreme Islamist terrorism has been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a long time. They didn't pledge death to

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<v Speaker 1>the West because the West wasn't an issue, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>persecution and death to those that weren't extreme enough. Except

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<v Speaker 1>now they turned their attention to not only their fellow

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<v Speaker 1>Muslims but also against Western civilization. So terrorism based on

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<v Speaker 1>an extremist view of Islam has been practiced by various

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<v Speaker 1>groups in the least for around thirteen hundred years. For those

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<v Speaker 1>to say that the USA is to blame for the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist organizations such as ISIS and al Qaeda and the

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban is just simply false period. It's false, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a propaganist message used to divide the West and

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<v Speaker 1>recruit more members to join these militant jihadist groups. So

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic terrorism was waged against other Muslims and people of

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, well before, as I stated earlier, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America ever came into existence. Yet this

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<v Speaker 1>is important to note that one of the first wars

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<v Speaker 1>ever fought by the USA outside of its own land

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<v Speaker 1>was against the Muslim Barbary Pirates, and that was between

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen oh one and eighteen oh five, and then again

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifteen and eighteen sixteen. Those wars, however, they

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<v Speaker 1>were not religious wars, but they were that of extortion

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<v Speaker 1>and economic gain through the capture and ransoming of US

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<v Speaker 1>ships and crew. So this is during the time where

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<v Speaker 1>the United States was entering into the global economy through trade,

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<v Speaker 1>through merchant missions and trips to where there were trading

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<v Speaker 1>goods our own as well as purchasing, and the Barbary

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<v Speaker 1>Pirates at that time were capturing United States ships, they

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<v Speaker 1>were taking crewis hostages, and they were holding for ransom.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the first war against anybody that would

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<v Speaker 1>be deemed Muslim or had an Islamist view outside of America.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, at that time, the focus of the Barbary

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<v Speaker 1>Pirates was not a religious one. It wasn't a religious

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<v Speaker 1>war whatsoever. It was literally piracy. Now there are some

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<v Speaker 1>that believe modern day terrorist organizations are the result of

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<v Speaker 1>US involvement and funding of terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. So

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<v Speaker 1>people believe that's where it all started. Our involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan paved the way for extreme is longist terrorist organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>While this view has become popular by those with an

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<v Speaker 1>anti American point of view, this belief is false and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more than propaganda. So let's unpack what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan and why the US got involved. It all started

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<v Speaker 1>with the Russian or really the former USSR Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, there was a time when Afghanistan was going

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<v Speaker 1>down a path that veered away from its Islamic roots

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<v Speaker 1>as a means of governance. Attempts at secular reform in

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan started in the nineteen twenties under King Amanula. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I pronounced that correct. Let me say it again, A'manula.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's right. So for many years Afghanistan was

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<v Speaker 1>under the rule of monarchy until it became Now get

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<v Speaker 1>this important factor. They became a communist nation in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight with heavy Soviet backing. That's right. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>before nineteen seventy eight, they were neither communists nor were

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<v Speaker 1>they in an Islamis state. Afghanistan was ruled by a monarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>They were nationalists, but they were not in an Islamic state,

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<v Speaker 1>so interestingly enough, they became a communist nation. They were

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<v Speaker 1>even viewed as a satellite nation of the Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. So this is where the US gets involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And before I get to that point, I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to I also want to point out that the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>Union actually invaded Afghanistan to fight off rebels and keep

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<v Speaker 1>the communist government of Afghanistan power. The Soviet occupation actually

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<v Speaker 1>made an effect from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine in Afghanistan remade a communist nation until nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 1>During this period is when modern extreme Islamic groups began

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge, or rather really re emerge. Now this is

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<v Speaker 1>also the period in time where the US gets involved

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<v Speaker 1>with Afghanistan right around this time here, but they did

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<v Speaker 1>so by supporting Afghan rebels and fighting against the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>occupation and to overthrow the then communist government of Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question remains, is the US responsible for modern

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<v Speaker 1>day Islamic terrorist groups? Answers still know, No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>The US did, however, arm in fund Afghan rebels, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the money and weapons did make their way

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<v Speaker 1>into the hands of extreme Islamist terrorists, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>not directly done so by the US. You see, at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it's important to note that the US really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the landscape. They didn't know all the relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't understand the culture or the religious phase. So

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<v Speaker 1>they got Pakistan involved to help broker this or manage

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. And unfortunately, at the time Pakistan,

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<v Speaker 1>while they were helping to basically divvy up or spread

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<v Speaker 1>the aid around that the US was providing in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of money and weaponry, they did tend to favor certain

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<v Speaker 1>groups that had Jihattist ties. And so that's how some

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<v Speaker 1>of this money and weaponry did get to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these terrorist organizations. It wasn't through the US directly working

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<v Speaker 1>with them or directly funding them. It was due to

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan's involvement at the time and being the liaison between

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<v Speaker 1>the US and these Afghani rebels. Now, before I move on,

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to point out that the not the emergent,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, the re emergence of extreme Islamic groups started

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<v Speaker 1>in the late nineteen sixties. So the truth is that

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<v Speaker 1>extreme Islamis terrorists existed in the Middle East in one

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<v Speaker 1>form or another for over thirteen hundred years, right over

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen hundred years, and most of the terror was aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at other Muslims in an effort to subjugate and control

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab world. It wasn't until the US War on

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<v Speaker 1>Terror was declared in two thousand and one that groups

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<v Speaker 1>like Al Kada and Isis made it a part of

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<v Speaker 1>their mission to destroy America and the West. Although the

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<v Speaker 1>US War on Terror was a direct retalitory action to

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<v Speaker 1>the terror attacks by Al Kada on US soil on

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh, two thousand and one. So did the US

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<v Speaker 1>create terrorist organizations in the released Now? Although many rebels

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<v Speaker 1>supported by the US did splinter off to form terrorist organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't the reason these terrorist organizations came to be

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<v Speaker 1>or even existed. They've already been there, they were already

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<v Speaker 1>re emerging in the sixties. In fact, they never really

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<v Speaker 1>truly died out. They just didn't have any power. So

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<v Speaker 1>the other question, did the US fund terrorist organizations? Again? No,

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<v Speaker 1>although although under the Obama administration, four hundred million was

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<v Speaker 1>given to Iran as part of a one point seven

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar settlement which ended up in Iran releasing US hostages.

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<v Speaker 1>The use of terrorism as a tool to gain power

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<v Speaker 1>and control has been used in the Middle East, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, for over thirteen hundred years and well before

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<v Speaker 1>the founding of the United States of America. These terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>groups use an extremist view of Islam to mold impressionable

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<v Speaker 1>minds and gain recruits to fight in their jahadiest wars.

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<v Speaker 1>The US is not infallible, but the US is not

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<v Speaker 1>the reason extreme Islamist terrorist groups exists. They were already here.
