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Speaker 1: Welcome to the great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. But first,

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Thanks so much for your support. But now, from February fourteenth,

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nineteen fifty two, here is the big phone call.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The

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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. A jewelry salesman

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is slugged and robbed of twenty thousand dollars in precious stones.

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After months of investigation, you'll finally discover the man responsible

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for the hold up. You've got the evidence to prove

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him guilty.

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Speaker 3: Your job bring him.

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Speaker 4: In Dragnet the document a drama of an actual crime.

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For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los

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Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on

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the side of the law through an actual case transcribed

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from official police violence, from beginning to end, from crime

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to punishment. Dragnet is the story of your police force

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in action.

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Speaker 5: Course.

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Speaker 6: Thursday, July eighteenth was sultry in Los Angeles. We were

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working the day watch out of Robbery Detail. My partner's

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Ed Jacobs. The boss is Captain Dideon. My name is Friday.

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It was one thirty five pm when we got back

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to the City Hall, the interrogation room, is it not,

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mister Garvey, Yes, sir, you want to call a captain.

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They'd let him know where back.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'd still like to know what this is all about.

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Sorry and dragging me down here in the middle of

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the day. I've got an office system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got back. Good you had interrogation room, right,

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let us check in you. Yeah, I'm back workd out time.

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Speaker 7: Would you please explain what this is about? Why you

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brought me down here? We think you know what I don't.

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I haven't any idea. Take me away from my store

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on a busy day, you put a police guard on it,

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you insist on bringing me down here.

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Speaker 6: What's it all about? Tell me you tell us, mister Garvey,

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tell you about what but jewel robbery nine months ago?

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Speaker 8: That hold up? What hold up?

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Speaker 5: My store hasn't been.

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Speaker 6: Talking about your friend Thomas Ashley?

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Speaker 5: Ashley, what about him?

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Speaker 3: I think you remember it nine months ago, parking lot

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back of the building down on Poyt Street.

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Speaker 7: Oh sure, some hold up man slugged him just to

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all his cases samples. I remember it now.

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Speaker 3: For a time.

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Speaker 5: Thief made a big haul, didn't.

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Speaker 3: He unset down? It was twenty thousand dollars worth.

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Speaker 5: I remember it now. I don't think Tom's gotten over it. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It was a jewelry salesman for the same company at

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the time, you know, same company Tom was working for him. Yeah,

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some of the big bosses thought Tom had a hand

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in it. I figured it was a put up job.

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Nothing was further from the truth. So sure I know Tom.

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He's a close friend of mine. He wouldn't be mixed

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up in a deal like that. Tom and I worked

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out of the same office for years. We've had him

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over the house for dinner. We've even been on vacations together.

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It's one of the most honest men I know. We're

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sure of all this, of course, I'm sure that isn't

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why you called me down here?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 5: You don't think Tom had anything to do with it robbery?

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Speaker 8: Did you?

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Speaker 5: You don't think he was in on it?

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Speaker 3: You had nothing to do with it. I think you

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know that as well as we do.

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Speaker 5: Then why am I here?

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Speaker 7: There's nothing I can tell you about the hold up,

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only what I heard from Tom, what I read in

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Speaker 6: You can tell us a lot more, Garvey. We didn't

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bring here just past time a day.

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Speaker 7: Tom was sluck and his sample cases stones were taken.

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That's all I can kill a liar, mister. You engineered

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Speaker 6: We know it, and so to you.

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Speaker 3: Was this some kind of a joke. If it is,

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I think it's in very long away from a joke, Garvey,

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you've planned the job, you got the loop. We can

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give you a chapter in verse. I really think you're serious?

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You think I robbed Tom.

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Speaker 7: We're past thinking stage, Garvey. We already told you, we

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know you robbed him. Wait a minute. This thing is ridiculous.

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The whole idea is ridiculous. I don't know who gave

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you the so called information on me, but it's wrong.

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There's nothing further from the truth. Nobody gave us the information.

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We got it ourselves. You're really serious. I robbed Tom

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and you can prove I didn't.

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Speaker 3: You're getting the idea.

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Speaker 5: I know what's say. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 7: I robbed my best friend Tom Ashley nine months ago.

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I have twenty thousand dollars worth of diamonds, and you

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can prove it, every bit of it. What about it?

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I think you're out of your mind. My name is

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George Garvey. You sure I'm the man you want? There

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couldn't be a mistake. No, there's no mistake. This seemed

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to be funny. If I didn't think you were serious,

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let me ask you just one question. Maybe that'll clear

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it up for you. Yeah, if I held up Tom Ashley.

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How is it he didn't recognize it?

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Speaker 3: You know better than that, Garvey. You didn't hold up

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Tom Ashley yourself. You had someone to do it for you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'll cloak and dagger. I'm afraid this is getting

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a little too wild for me.

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Speaker 8: Sergeant.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you can waste time making ridiculous charges.

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Speaker 8: I can.

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Speaker 5: I'm going back to my store.

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Speaker 3: Weak bluff mistress, not gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me?

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Speaker 7: Are you sure you two men haven't been drink? Mister Garvey,

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I told you, and do you make my stool down? Look,

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you have no right to keep me here. These are

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ridiculous charges. You think I'm one of those cheap hoodlings

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you used to dealing.

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Speaker 6: I'll come off at mister. You've got a five thousand

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dollars car and a forty thousand dollars home. That doesn't

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reach you a special treatment. You're a thief and you

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know it as well as we do. I don't have

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to take this from you. You haven't got much choice.

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We just finished five months leg work proving it, proving what. Alright,

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I sit down there. You engineered that hold up. We

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know who you got to do it, We know how

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it was carried out. We know how you're planned on

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disposing of the diamonds. We know who your fans was,

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we know what the split was, we know what you

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did with part of the money.

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Speaker 7: We know how much you got left. Right, Yeah, that's right.

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What can I say? I don't even know what you're

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talking about. Any way you want it, mister Garvey, maybe

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you'd like to tell me why I did always you

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know what better than we do, you know, I mean,

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and tell me you weren't making enough money at your

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job to suit yourself suit your wife either. It's pretty good,

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Maryland get a big kick out.

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Speaker 6: Of that, all right, So we can wait it out

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as long as you want. We spent nine months on

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this already. In another few days, I'm going to make

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that much difference.

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Speaker 7: Just as a matter of curiosity. How'd you first start

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off on this tangent? Whatever gave you the idea that

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I had anything.

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Speaker 5: To do with the hold up?

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Speaker 6: When you started to spend money a new car, new

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office for yourself, for a code for your wife, transferred

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your two children to that private school.

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Speaker 7: And that makes a hold up man out of me,

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because I wanted to send my kids to a better school.

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Speaker 3: Where the money come from. Can you explain that?

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Speaker 5: Don't you think that's my business?

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Speaker 3: Sergeant?

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Speaker 5: Where I get my money? What'd I do with it?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 3: When you get it? Stealing?

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Speaker 7: I'm afraid you're going just a little too far. You

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insist I'm a thief. I'm going to insist you prove it,

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all right.

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Speaker 6: I have a look over here, mister Garvey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the reports on.

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Speaker 6: The investigation reams of them. They cover everything from the

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time of the jewel robbery of the late yesterday. It's

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all right there, everything from the crime report to science statements.

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Speaker 5: How would that concern me?

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Speaker 3: Three quarters of the stuff concerned? You have a look

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for yourself.

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Speaker 7: I still can't yet it's straightened my mind. What makes

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you think I had anything to do with that robbery?

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Speaker 6: You know what this is, mister Garvey? This machine right here.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm kind of recording apparatus.

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Speaker 6: That's right, it's a tape recorder.

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Speaker 7: You've been taking down this conversation, and why no not

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this one. We've been recording every conversation that took place

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in your office.

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Speaker 5: For the last four months.

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Speaker 8: Every word, what do you mean just.

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Speaker 3: That, mister Garvey? Every time you talked on uphone every

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visitor you had. It's all down on tape, twenty five

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years of it.

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Speaker 5: Interesting. Is that supposed to frighten you know?

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Speaker 6: No, we don't care. If it's frightens you're not something

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else here. Yes, the reports on what you've been doing

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for the last four months, daily reports, every movement you made.

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That's so everywhere you went, everybody you talk to, everything

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you did want to hear sample.

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Speaker 5: This must be some kind of a joke. That's the

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only explanation I can think of.

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Speaker 6: May twelfth, Thursday. Sergeant's bitter Off and rapperty Those are

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the two officers who were tailing you at the time.

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You checked in at your new office at nine thirty

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eight am. At ten oh three am, you had a

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visitor at Kenneth Tyson. You talked to him in your office,

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conversations recorded. Tyson left at ten eighteen am. At ten

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thirty two am, you left your office.

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Speaker 7: If you're trying to impress me, I'm afraid it isn't

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working out very well. You care for a cecarectulary? No thanks,

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I have my own. I've wasted enough time. Exactly what's

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the point of all.

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Speaker 3: It pretty simple? You're responsible for a robbery you can prove,

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but we're giving you the chance to make statement.

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Speaker 7: It's nonsense, isn't of course, people following me checking everything

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I do, where I spend my money, where I send

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my kids to school.

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Speaker 5: What's it all about? It doesn't make any sense, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, christer Garvey. We've said it before. We can wait

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it out as long as you want. Look, let's get

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this thing straight. Let's go back to the beginning and

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take it step by step.

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Speaker 6: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: The whole up was last fall, but sometime in October.

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Speaker 3: October seventh, Monday twenty in the afternoon.

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Speaker 7: All right, now, just what am I supposed to have done?

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None of your vague references about a new coach for

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my wife or where I send my kids to school.

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Let's have some facts yo.

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Speaker 6: All right, mister Garvin. You went to work as a

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jewelry salesman for the company ten years ago. Your friend

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Tom Ashley, the victims, started the same year. The two

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of you have been pretty close friends.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 6: I told you that I will skip the rest of

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your background for now. Two weeks before the robbery, on

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September twenty fourth, we had a meeting with Kenneth Tyson.

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You met in the cafeteria on South Broadway. Tyson's nineteen

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years old, lives with an older sister. He works in

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the Gas States Olympic Boulevard, has done some work.

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Speaker 8: We're careful.

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Speaker 7: That's how you have to know him. Yes, I think

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I remember the boy. I don't know him well, though,

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I don't recall the meeting.

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Speaker 6: No, you know the boy very well. The time of

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the meeting, you promised him a thousand dollars I could

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hold up your friend Tom actually did. Tyson agreed to it,

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and you briefed him on the plan. The following day,

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you gave him a gun thirty two caliber Smith and Wesson,

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serial number three six two seven four nine.

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Speaker 5: Sense where did you get that in from?

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Speaker 8: Tyson?

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Speaker 5: Well, he's lying.

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Speaker 7: Believe me if he told you that he's lying. Is

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he the one who robbed Tom October seventh? At your direction?

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Speaker 6: He was in the parking lot behind the Hunter Crosswell Building.

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Tom actually came out to get in his car. He

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had his case of sample diamonds with him. Tyson held

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him up, slugged him, took the stones and got away.

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Speaker 7: Of course, it's obvious Tyson's trying to say, I put

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him up to it. He's trying to get out of it.

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That pat not mister Garvey boy couldn't have carried off

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a hold up himself.

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Speaker 3: Of course he could. It's obvious he's trying to cover up.

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There were six people in the company you worked for.

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We knew that on Mondays actually always took the case

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of sample diamonds long when he made his calls. Only

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on Monday. You were one of the people who knew that.

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Speaker 5: I suppose you've considered the other five people and they were.

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Speaker 3: All checked out at the time. They were all cleared

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you along with him.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not clear anymore. Is that it this young

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hoodlum tyson? You're willing to take his word over mine.

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After the robbery, took the case of dimes to you.

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Speaker 8: That was the next day.

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Speaker 3: You paid him five hundred dollars and proms from the

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other five hundred when he got rid of the stones.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I suppose I've gotten rid of them, or do

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I still have him?

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Speaker 3: Two months after the hold up, you contacted a fence

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something in San Francisco. You drove up there and sold

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him some of the stones, and he broke him up

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and sold him. We know where he saw him to.

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We know what he got for him with this fence.

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He's supposed to be another good friend of mine.

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Speaker 7: He's still doing business with him. His name is Fred Lawrence,

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who went on me. I don't know any Fred Lawrence.

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Can't even recall the name.

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Speaker 6: Now, maybe this will help you, mister Garvey. Listen to

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him little teeth recorder. It's reel four in the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll labeled there right on the.

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Speaker 6: Back of the black Yeah, you're with.

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Speaker 5: Well, what's all this about?

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Speaker 6: Phone conversation, mister Garvey. One of the things were recorded

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from your office. I told you about it before. Let's

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see this one was on March eighteenth.

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Speaker 7: I always thought wiretapping was against the law, or do

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you pay any attention to that?

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Speaker 3: He didn't have your telephone line. We recorded everything. Come

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to take the grabb installed in your store and back

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in your office. They started recording the day you moved in,

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and that was the first to March, wasn't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why you're telling me. I can sue

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you for that.

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Speaker 6: You know, I can sue you for your last dollar

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all working sermons? Right now? Is Fred Lawrence? You say

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you don't know what t Have you listened to this?

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This is recorded March eighteenth in your office? Okay, here

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we go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm right?

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Speaker 6: Is the Lawrence?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Put money?

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Speaker 6: Hi Fred?

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 8: Good? No? Are they fine?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 8: He at all Ie? No, he's all right.

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Speaker 6: I believe he's a good kid. Nice alright? Where Oh,

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I know it might not be so good as you've

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seen down here?

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Speaker 3: Only your clock?

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Speaker 5: Are you thirty?

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Speaker 8: Okay? Fine?

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Speaker 6: Close a thirty?

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Speaker 3: Is you like?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 6: Like mister Gary?

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Speaker 3: You recognize that? How about it?

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Speaker 7: Guard? I understand they can do clever things with tape

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recorders nowadays. There's a way of piecing words together.

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Speaker 3: Is in there.

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Speaker 7: They can record your voice and then fix the tape.

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Take a simple sentence and change the words around me

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in just the opposite cam.

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Speaker 3: You examine the tape, if you liked it, didn't make

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a splice in or tell you'll find it the usual

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factory splice it just where it comes from the manufacturer.

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Speaker 5: What difference does it make?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 5: There's nothing criminal about that conversation, nothing at all.

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Speaker 3: You told us a few minutes ago you didn't know

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Fred Lawrence. You never heard of him on that recording.

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It sounds like you know him pretty well.

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Speaker 7: It's a fairly common name, wouldn't you say, must be

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quite a few Fred Lawrence's.

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Speaker 5: I didn't happen to remember the name right off.

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Speaker 6: How about Tyson? Tyson? He told us you didn't know

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him well at all. I don't well, I didn't sound

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that way on that tape, did it. If you were

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telling Lawrence that he was all right? You said, believe me,

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he's a good kid. Now what you said to How

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about it?

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Speaker 8: Mass?

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Speaker 6: How about?

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Speaker 5: What is this some kind of a frame? What are

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you trying to make me say?

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Speaker 3: We're not going to make you say anything, Garvey. We

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work robbery detail. That's a job robberies. They pay us

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to clean them up. I can pay you well, never mind,

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I didn't mean that. I meant I pay my taxes,

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I pay your salaries. I helped you anyway. I don't

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know why I have to be treated like that.

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Speaker 6: No reason to make a big headache out of this

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for anybody, Garvey. Now you engineered a hold up. We

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can prove that. We're giving you a chance to make

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a statement. That's all we want here.

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Speaker 7: I have got nothing to say, make a statement about

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what all you're going on is hearsay circumstantial evidence.

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Speaker 5: You can't say I planned that, Rob.

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Speaker 6: But do you admit you know Tyson?

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Speaker 3: You know them? Well?

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Speaker 8: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I admit nothing. What about the phone conversation?

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Speaker 8: It's a fake.

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Speaker 6: They're phoning those things up all the time. You know

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it as well as I do.

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Speaker 3: You admitted you know Fred Lnes. Prove that from the recording?

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Speaker 5: I admit nothing.

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Speaker 6: You don't even know Tyson?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you want to say?

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Speaker 7: I know him, that's all. He worked on my car

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a couple of times. I don't know him well.

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Speaker 6: All right, sir, to play another recording?

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Speaker 7: So waste of time. I haven't got the whole day

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to spend here. I got to get back to my store.

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I've got a business to.

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Speaker 6: Offer here we are April fits a lot of foolishness.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 7: How do I know you made those recordings? You could

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have gotten actors. Maybe you made them up yourselves. There

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weren't any dictographs. How do you make those sayings?

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Speaker 3: There? Word dictographs? Mister Garvey? Remember before you moved into

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that new suite of offices, you had them redecorated. Yeah,

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or sound technicaltions from our crime lay about their working

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side by side of the painters and carpenters installed dictographs

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in your store from back in your office. They bug

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the entire.

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Speaker 7: Place wire tapping. I'll bring this into court if it's

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the last thing I do.

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Speaker 6: Now, we already told you, mister Garvey, it's not wire tapping.

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We didn't touch your phone lines.

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Speaker 7: We didn't have to invasion of privacy and then take

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you into courtA.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's listen to this recording, right, tariff, A few

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things clear up? What what are you trying to prove?

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Speaker 3: Okay, junking?

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Speaker 6: It's coming in here then missus apl fifth.

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Mary?

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Speaker 5: Oh, how well does he know him?

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Speaker 8: Inn?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Okay, send him back?

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Speaker 6: You got mine? I mister Gary again, how are your

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money sit out?

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Speaker 8: Thanks?

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Speaker 3: How you got anyway? Pretty good?

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Speaker 6: Trying to get hold you last week. It is so

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hard to do, yount very much?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good?

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Speaker 6: They have again in time of year.

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Speaker 5: You know what kids you do?

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't wanna waste your time like you

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know how to Deal's working out though back east of

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me next month. I'd like to get the rest of

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my money if I couldn't. It's just like I told

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you the last time. You cannot sending yourself, nor the

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hope to hear it in a couple of days.

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Speaker 3: And I's what.

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Speaker 6: You told me before was a pretty heavy job. I

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could use the money. I mean, it wasn't jo heavy.

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I wouldn't mind that I got a com and.

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Speaker 5: I think, of course you do. Can't there's no question there.

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Speaker 6: It's just that I hadn't got it right now, believing

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you'd have it in a minute to reminded you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but that was your agreement.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't this five hundred to fourth job? Five hundred after

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and have a last October. That's a pretty good stretch.

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Speaker 8: Now I can't.

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Speaker 5: I told you the truth. I just haven't got it now.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you drop back in a week or so?

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How about it, mister Garvey, what do you say to that?

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Speaker 5: It's a ridiculous thats all. It's an obvious fake.

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Speaker 3: You can look at the tape if you like inspected,

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if you can check every one of those twenty five reels.

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We'll play every one of them if.

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Speaker 7: You want fakes, and they're bad ones and that now, look,

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I'll give you both a chance. Either you book me

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in on a charge or else release me. You try

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booking me in and I'll sue you for false arrest.

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I'll break you. I'll see you blind. I can promise

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you that, uh, release me and I'll get back to work.

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I'll forget all about it.

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Speaker 8: Now you name it?

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Speaker 6: Which one book me in or release me? Oh that's

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fair enough. You're gonna give us a choice.

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Speaker 7: So on, bet it's fair. You could get in a

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lot of hot water. Now it's up to you which

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one You ran a bad bluff? Mister, we're booking you in.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police

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force and action.

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Speaker 6: Thursday, three point fifty five pm, Ed Jacobs and I

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continued questioning the robbery suspect Ernest Garvey. Despite the evidence

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at hand, he still refused to admit any knowledge of

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the twenty thousand dollars jewel theft nine months before the

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questioning went on. Garvey's answers became more and more confused.

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We kept pressing, laying out the case against him step

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by step. Four pm. Four thirty We stayed.

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Speaker 3: At it must have taken quite a bit of money,

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didn't Garvey? My wife knew for a coat newcofe of show.

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Where do you come from? Now?

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Speaker 6: Look, there has to be an answer. Where'd that money

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00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:04,960
come from?

476
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:05,599
Speaker 8: Simple?

477
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,079
Speaker 3: I borrowed it?

478
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:06,400
Speaker 8: Wherede.

479
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,640
Speaker 6: You borrow it, some of it from friends, some from

480
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,079
the banks.

481
00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,359
Speaker 5: I don't see how it concerns you.

482
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,559
Speaker 3: How much money did you borrow?

483
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,759
Speaker 5: Don't you think that's my business?

484
00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:15,039
Speaker 6: Wasn't it about seven thousand dollars? Is that about right?

485
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

486
00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 7: No, it was more. Well what's the difference, it's my business?

487
00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:19,960
You want to grab that folto in one of the

488
00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:25,440
dark brown that's it? Huh, complete financial file on you,

489
00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:27,599
mister Garvey. Took us quite a few weeks getting this together.

490
00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:28,079
Speaker 5: In a lot of work.

491
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Speaker 7: We must like snooping in other people's affairs, you know

492
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,480
another especially it's pretty dull.

493
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,519
Speaker 6: There's a copy of your bank statement. It's a photostat.

494
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Doesn't make much sense.

495
00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 8: What do you mean?

496
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,119
Speaker 6: Well, we checked your income for that month outed to

497
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,640
six hundred and twenty dollars and eighteen cents. Your bank

498
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,359
statement here shows you made deposits totaling seven hundred and

499
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,599
sixty dollars the same month. Now, how is that possible?

500
00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,079
Speaker 7: For your information? I made a loan that month. That's

501
00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,680
probably some of the loan money I deposited. I quit

502
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,599
my old job. That time I was going in business

503
00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:56,200
for myself. I needed the money to redecorate the new

504
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store in the office.

505
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Speaker 8: It's as simple as that.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the photostats your loan papers right here in loans

507
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,880
for two thousand dollars for that February for three thousand dollars.

508
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,680
Another one in April too, that was for fifteen hundred

509
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,680
different back again.

510
00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:10,039
Speaker 8: It's right.

511
00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 5: Do we have to go over this line by line?

512
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,839
Speaker 6: In three months you made bank loans for six thousand,

513
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,359
five hundred dollars. Besides that, in the same three months

514
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,720
you earned a total of seventeen hundred and thirteen dollars

515
00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:21,960
and eighty eight cents. Together, that makes eight thousand, two

516
00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:24,519
hundred and thirteen dollars and eighty eight cents. What's the point?

517
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,880
How is your bank statements, Garvey? You have five different

518
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,880
savings accounts in five different banks. They show from February

519
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,119
to April, the same three months you made deposits of

520
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,599
more than eleven thousand dollars.

521
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 8: And how to you explain that?

522
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 3: Jarby any explanation?

523
00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 7: It's almost five o'clock. Can I use the phone? I

524
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,319
have to call my wife and let her know.

525
00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:44,839
Speaker 6: All right, we'll have to listen in on the extension.

526
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 5: Conversation is going to be minehead.

527
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 3: I don't care.

528
00:19:47,359 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 6: Okay, down nine to get an outside line.

529
00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: What your staff did it examine? I'm garny, I see him.

530
00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 6: You want to give us an explanation. You only get

531
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,119
eighty two hundred dollars? How could you bank eleven thousand?

532
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,160
It had to come from somewhere, didn't It? Surely a

533
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,319
personal matter, that's all.

534
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 7: I borrowed three thousand from a brother of mine lives

535
00:20:24,519 --> 00:20:25,359
back in Minnesota.

536
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,519
Speaker 3: It already made three loans. What you have to borrow

537
00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:28,839
from your brother? You mind telling us?

538
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,039
Speaker 5: Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.

539
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,559
Speaker 6: It still doesn't balance the books. Mister Garvey, you earned

540
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,920
and borrowed eighty two hundred dollars. You got another three

541
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,839
thousand from your brother. You say that's eleven thousand, two hundred.

542
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,880
You banked eleven thousand dollars. Yes, that's right. You always

543
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,200
have to repeat I did leave you with two hundred dollars.

544
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
You and your family lived for three months on two

545
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,240
hundred dollars? Is not that can easily be a lot

546
00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:51,240
of people do it, yes, or but not your family.

547
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,240
I'm getting sick and tired of this. You're trying to

548
00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:55,000
tell me you know my family better than I do.

549
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,000
What they eat, what they spend, what it takes to

550
00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:57,559
support them.

551
00:20:57,559 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: We've been on this thing for nine months, Garvey. We've

552
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,559
put in a lot of you know your family pretty well.

553
00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:02,960
If you like, I'll tell you the last time he

554
00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:04,799
arda stake from the meat market, when you've paid your

555
00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:06,400
gas bill, a last time you wife bought a pair

556
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:06,759
of shoes.

557
00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 7: I guess this is standard procedure for you. I'm threatening people,

558
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,200
not threadning you, mister Garvey. We're giving you facts.

559
00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,599
Speaker 6: There's another file here. It took us over a month

560
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,680
to get this one together. Complete record of your expenses

561
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240
from February first covers February March, April.

562
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,279
Speaker 3: May June.

563
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,839
Speaker 5: I hope the police department has a good lawyer. Sergeant.

564
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,359
You've got a.

565
00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 6: Fairwell say you and your I'm sorry, go ahead.

566
00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 7: I hope the police department has a good lawyer. Sergeant.

567
00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:28,960
You've got fair warning. I'm going to sue you for

568
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,640
your last dollar.

569
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 6: And you say you and your family lived three months

570
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,640
on two hundred dollars, that doesn't jibe with what we've

571
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,039
got here.

572
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,559
Speaker 7: Take a look if you want to. It's size forgeries.

573
00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,799
It's all lies. I promise you photost out of the.

574
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 6: Receipt for your wife's coat Garvey sixteen hundred and twelve

575
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,960
dollars and thirty four cents. That includes the tax paid

576
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,799
in full. Photo stat of the contract for your new

577
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:48,000
car down payment.

578
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,279
Speaker 8: Two thousand dollars.

579
00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 6: Flicker bill for the big part of you throw in

580
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,680
March March twentieth flicker bill, three hundred and eighty seven dollars.

581
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,319
Catering bill, one hundred and ninety four full year's check

582
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,440
for tuition, room and board for your kids at the

583
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,440
private school you send them to. Eighteen hundred and sixty

584
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,240
four dollars and seven cents. That's only the beginning. Garby

585
00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:07,279
comes to a lot more than two hundred dollars. Have

586
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,960
you heard enough?

587
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 5: I better try to get my wife again.

588
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,079
Speaker 6: I have to let her know mad new handle extension.

589
00:22:13,559 --> 00:22:17,559
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, go ahead downline to get outside. Yeah,

590
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:17,839
I know.

591
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 6: You know talking. I know I'm trying to get her stupid.

592
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,200
We'll wait a couple of minutes. You get through.

593
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 7: Gavin on the phone all day long, gab on the

594
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,359
phone and play cards. It's else you ever done have.

595
00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: Some more figures here fight Garvey would be a good

596
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,359
idea if you hear them built for two more parties

597
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,279
that through last month's food builds, Like why do you

598
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,799
have to keep pushing that stuff at me?

599
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,519
Speaker 7: So you've been sneaking around finding out about my personal affairs.

600
00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:56,480
That's supposed to be good police workers. This is the

601
00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:58,720
kind of rid off of robbery, Garvey. We're giving you

602
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,519
a chance to make a statement. I why should I

603
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,720
what for give you a statement? Have you twisted around

604
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:05,279
incriminate me? I haven't had anything to do with this kid, Tyson.

605
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,359
I met her trying.

606
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: To call and well down one person.

607
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,279
Speaker 8: I know, I know you ton't. Mm hmmm.

608
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,519
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

609
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 8: It's a matter.

610
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:26,599
Speaker 5: It's a matter with her stupid.

611
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,079
Speaker 8: She ought to know.

612
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,039
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get.

613
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,519
Speaker 6: Us do some Garby, don't forget down line.

614
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Speaker 8: M h.

615
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: M hm. One more. I'll just play I don't want

616
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,839
to hear it. I'll just play piece.

617
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 6: I think you go to hear it's the same rail

618
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,200
or just fand it over there to that other.

619
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Speaker 3: Part, right, Tyson, mister Garvey, same place the office.

620
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 6: M uh but you told me on the phone, you

621
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,519
said you had the dough for me today.

622
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: You said to Dad shut and.

623
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,319
Speaker 6: I had him annetic, And I didn't say that at all.

624
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,279
I said maybe I'd have it for you. I didn't

625
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:08,920
say definitely.

626
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,759
Speaker 5: Look, I can't give you what I haven't got.

627
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,519
Speaker 3: I want the five minute Darby I needed.

628
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:14,039
Speaker 6: I stuck my neck out on a Robbie Jell.

629
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:14,799
Speaker 1: I get five to light.

630
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,799
Speaker 3: All right, what do you say?

631
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,079
Speaker 8: Yeah?

632
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,519
Speaker 6: She was never satisfied. She never couldn't be satisfied. Always more.

633
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,759
She always had something. You mean, your wife, playing cards,

634
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359
gabbing on the phone, that's all. She just kept riding

635
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,680
me day in day out. I wasn't making enough money.

636
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,160
She didn't have any clothes. Kids ought to go to

637
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,039
a better school. We ought to have no how so

638
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,559
on and on.

639
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:02,839
Speaker 7: I had to go in business for myself, make money,

640
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,519
lots of money, same thing all the time.

641
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 5: Talk talk talk, There's only.

642
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 8: So much you can take.

643
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 6: You figured the robbery had solved. The problem is I didn't. Yes,

644
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200
So I would have tried anything just to shut her up,

645
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,319
get her off my back for a while. I guess

646
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,799
you got Tyson hunt the other man.

647
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 5: Too, Fred Law.

648
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

649
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,799
Speaker 3: They were picked up this afternoon launch at the Airport,

650
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,319
Toisman and Show downtown, all three all at the same time.

651
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 6: What about your wife, Garby? She know you planned this robbery?

652
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:26,599
Speaker 5: Why didn't tell her? I think she knows though, pretty

653
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,160
sure she does.

654
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,839
Speaker 6: Maybe she'll be satisfied now allows even the money she

655
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,039
had to have, it didn't even leave me enough to

656
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:34,720
pay off had kid tyson, private school for the children,

657
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:36,920
wall the wall, carpets in the house, new dish wash

658
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,960
or new car.

659
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,319
Speaker 5: Everything she just had to have. M h, you wanna

660
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,640
take me?

661
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: Book me in.

662
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:42,799
Speaker 8: I don't care.

663
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 6: We'll stop off down the hall.

664
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 8: Take your statement. Sure, I don't care.

665
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 6: Why let's go.

666
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 5: I'll say just a minute it yeah, will you take

667
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,599
a minute?

668
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:56,519
Speaker 6: Good?

669
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:20,079
Speaker 8: M Yeah, that's what I'm figured.

670
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

671
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,480
were changed to protect the innocent.

672
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 4: On November fourth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

673
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,599
eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

674
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial, Ernest W.

675
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: Garvey and Kenneth Tyson were tried and convicted of first

676
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:57,680
degree robbery one count and received sentences as prescribed by law.

677
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240
Fred Lawrence was tried and convicted of receiving stolen property

678
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:05,039
one count first degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment from

679
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,640
five years to life. Receiving stolen property as punishable by

680
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,480
a prison term of.

681
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:10,799
Speaker 3: Not more than five years.

682
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,559
Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases

683
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,960
from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of

684
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,960
Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

685
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,680
Heard Tonight where Barney Phillips, Vic Perrin, and Eddie Firestone.

686
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,319
Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann, Hell Gibney.

687
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 7: Speaking February eighteenth, Here the Gala City Service Silver Radio

688
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Jubilee on NBC.

689
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, I've done the video version of this,

690
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:03,519
and I'm pretty firmly on the record that I don't

691
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,440
think much of the TV version that aired in nineteen

692
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,119
fifty two of this story. I think it was the

693
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:16,359
weakest story we have from season one because it's kind

694
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,960
of visually dull. It's it's a poor choice to adapt

695
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,440
to television. It works better on the radio, and you

696
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,839
do have the sort of claustrophobic feel you have of

697
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,359
what's essentially a three hander. Now you do have a

698
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,160
little bit of tape from Tyson and from the fence,

699
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,960
but I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually pre recorded.

700
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:49,200
You get this really sort of claustrophobic story of these

701
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,119
characters talking and of our man realizing that the walls

702
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:58,240
are closing in. So it's a more interesting story. It's

703
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,880
not one of my favorites, to be honest, even over radio,

704
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,680
because essentially it's about a guy who made a lot

705
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:12,000
of dumb mistakes and because of these mistakes, he has

706
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,680
cooked and his only tactic is to try to bluster

707
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,359
his way through with you know, I'm going to sue you,

708
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:27,440
And the tapes are all faked, but there is something

709
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,480
real about this guy, particularly in the way at the

710
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,400
end he doesn't really take personal responsibility, putting all the

711
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:41,160
blame on his wife, including for him not paying off Tyson.

712
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It's all the things his wife demanded, so he didn't

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have money to pay off Tyson. Forgetting that he spent

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nearly the amount that he owed to Tyson on booze

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from the liquor store. No, it's his wife's fault that

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he didn't pay Tyson all. And truly, if Tyson had

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been paid off, he probably goes ahead and leaves town.

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And even if he doesn't. If Tyson were out of

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his life before the police got suspicious, this would have

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been a lot harder to prove, although you still do

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have that financial trail. But if I'm on a jury,

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the most damning piece of evidence are those phone calls

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that he had involving Tyson and where he had these

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conversations directly with Tyson. And that's on him, despite what

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he thinks. But now let's go ahead and thank our

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Patreon supporter of the day. And I want to go

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ahead and thank Michelle, Patreon supporter since May of twenty

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twenty one, currently supporting the pond Cast at the Shawmus

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level of four dollars or more per month. Thanks so

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much for your support, Michelle, And that will do it

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for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us

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be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet. But

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join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny Dollar, where.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have to wonderful lot.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you crazy old code, you sidewinder?

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Speaker 3: What the same Hill's the matter with your long Johnny?

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Speaker 2: Listen you wild old character.

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Speaker 3: Put that thing down and I'll start throw some letter

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around I I.

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Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, send

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