Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to an episode of Challenge Podcast. All
about the Challenge aka Johnny Bananas throws a temper tantrum
for an hour and a half. As always, I am Brian,
sitting in Minnesota, Arlen San Diego, and sitting at work
Douglass dogless, I said, Carlin was sitting there with her dog.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh it is the lieutenant Colonel of the
Bananas Angels, Zachi Bananas Bors.
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Hey Carlin, what happened in this episode?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Season forty, episode ten, new era. Also just side note,
the picture on the thumbnail for this episode is a
big picture of Anissa from earlier on in the season.
So I had an immediate like, wait a second, are
they bringing people back? Like what is happening here? Scared
me just a little bit. It's a little bit confused.
But we start the episode off with a clip from
I Believe Free Agents when they're talking about when car
Marie is talking about throwing bananas in, right, good clip.
I agree. Every time that you get the chance to
throw bananas in, throw them in. And then everybody's coming
back from the from elimination, like kick the door in
and oh no, that's later. They just walk in the house.
There's lots of talk about Devon, lots and lots and
lots of talk about Devon. Corey makes a note that
makes a note of it and says that they should
just have a cutout of him, but they can just
place around the house because this entire episode was very
full of Devon, even though Devon went home last.
Speaker 1: Episode, still influencing the game.
Speaker 3: Yep, everybody's still playing his game. Didn't you know that? Yeah,
they're just not playing this other person's game. Ridiculous. Ryan
comes into the house real heated. He is not a
happy camper because Tory threw both him and Derek in
with Johnny Bananas, and his immediate thought was, why would
you do that to us? If you really wanted to
get Bananas out, why wouldn't you throw someone in like
THEO who actually has a legitimate chance of beating him?
Speaker 2: Sounds Theo's in her alliance, that's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's tangentially attached to her alliance. Yeah, Unfortunately, there's
not really any other guys that she could I mean,
maybe Corey, because he's only like he's way down on
the alliance. But we've already seen some backlash there. I
don't know that there's any other guys that she could
throw in that wouldn't like come to kick her in
the invider in the ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even because yeah, because not only do you probably
piss off thea if you throw him in, but again
then piss off Olivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you picked Josh, is what you do?
Speaker 3: You should?
Speaker 1: Oh, hey, you've been flip flopping so much this season.
Guess what you might have to go against? Bananas?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Josh, we get a scene of him and
Tory are talking and they're, Oh, they're so sad because
that the only two left is the vacation Alliance.
Speaker 1: We're the only vacation people live.
Speaker 3: And then Josh lists off that he's really good friends
with Bananas, and he's really good friends with Rachel, and
he's got Tory and all these things, and then Tory
makes it. She has a confessional saying Josh has too
many friends in this house and it's this episode really
shows what it means to have an alliance and stick
with your alliance. I realized that her alliance is gone,
but have an alliance, have a backbone, and stick with
your alliance, even if you're it's not the most popular choice.
I guess probably was the lest popular choice. But it
if this was Josh in her position, he would have
just crumbled so quickly.
Speaker 1: But no, you know doesn't crumble. He doesn't ball his
eyes out.
Speaker 3: And then come, I'm so so sorry.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do that right now. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: You never one. But but I'm not going to fight
to keep her here.
Speaker 2: So I guess you it depends what you mean like
he's gonna crumble, because if you mean like he wouldn't
thrown Rachel, I don't think that's crumbling. I think that's
make guess my choice in prioritizing his own game over
his quote unquote teams game.
Speaker 3: He didn't help his ride or die his number one
last episode. He crumbled last episode, but that.
Speaker 2: Was We're very.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is one of the sloppiest. We also get
Kara and Rachel talking, and Car says of this season,
she's a lot happier and is more able to be
herself than she has been in past seasons. I feel
like she's always in the last few seasons that she's
been on, which I realized were you know, years ago
she maybe the being with the boys was her armor,
but she felt like she was being herself then too. Whenever. Oh,
and then we get a scene of Michelle trying to
create an alliance with Jordan because she understands that Jordan
is a good is a big player in this game
and it is probably gonna go pretty goddamn far. So
she probably isn't if she doesn't align with him, and
especially now that Devin has gone, she is relatively rudderless. Uh.
And now we're onto the challenge. We're just flying to
this episode today.
Speaker 2: I was not prepared.
Speaker 1: I was not prepared play damn you how it's.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So we walk into the challenge and TJ tells everybody,
you are still wrapping your eras. But don't get me wrong,
this is an individual game. So I don't know why
they keep harping on this eras thing like it. It
doesn't actually make any difference. They're all wearing the same
color shirt. They're not in an alliance of their eras anymore.
They can play it however they want. I don't understand
why they keep doing it, but whatever. He also tells
us the targets again, which are Rachel, Aviv, Jenny, Johnny, Bananas, Ryan,
and Derek, and then he pulls out a coin and says,
but only one of you guys, one of your genders,
is going to compete today in the elimination. He flips
a coin and ultimately ends up being boysed day. Jenny
is real stoked on this, real real happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He does mention though, that don't get last place because
you'll get penalized for next week. And the way that
he says it originally, it makes it sound like if
you are last place out of everybody, you'll get penalized
for next For the ladies, if they are last place
out of everybody, they'll get penalized for next week. But
I think what it actually is is that if they
are the last place female, regardless of where, whether there
are still more guys to go, they will get penalized
for next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some questions about how these new rules
are going to work, and we didn't get any of
them answer this episode.
Speaker 3: Nope, we probably won't see any of the answers until
next week.
Speaker 2: I mean, what questions you have, because I feel like
it's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: So we have targets. Yeah, right, but then is it
the last target that comes in the furthest down or
is it the person who goes last, who becomes last
out of everybody. I have that question too, And then
they choose from the targets who they're going to go
up against.
Speaker 3: Because there was a point in time where it sounded
like I think THEO later on in the episode, he
made it sound like, if you came in last place,
regardless of whether you were a target or not, if
you were if your gender was competing that day, the elimination,
if you were the person who came in last place,
you were going in regardless of whether you were a
target or not.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct. TJ specified that at the end
of the episode, saying, even if you're not a target,
if you come in last place, you will be an elimination.
Speaker 3: Okay, I must have missed that. H I find that
a little strange. I kind of like it though, because
it's a fun little twist.
Speaker 1: Like because they can figure out how to get rid
of people who are not targets, which is nice.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like if they decide they all want to
team up against bananas, and you know that the one
from the other day where they all had to push
the gladiator one where they had to push each other off.
If they all teamed up and went against Johnny and
knocked him out first, then technically he would be in
last place and he and if he was.
Speaker 2: Last week's podcast Wolfe.
Speaker 1: I didn't listen to the last week's podcast.
Speaker 2: We had a review where they specified they did not
like the anti bananas.
Speaker 1: Well, they also said.
Speaker 3: That I talk over everyone and I'm I'm an actress.
What mm hmmmm, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: We had we had quite a few negative ones last week.
It was it was Challenge eight week.
Speaker 3: It was pretty funny though. Yeah, we had we had
some some entertaining, entertaining reviews. I got some laughter at
of them, for sure. I guess we could get back
to the actual game. Uh. So he tells us the targets. Uh,
the game. So the game is called fire Away.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: There is a giant trebuche in the middle or at
the end of one side of the field. This tree
is going to be launched by t J and there
are a bunch of little balls in it, and it's
gonna fling balls all over this field and all of
the players have to run out there and collect as
many balls as they can at a time, and these
balls off in the tube next to their name on
the other side of the field, and once that tube
is filled up, then they can do the puzzle, and
the first male and female to do the puzzle win
last is in last place for both uh. He does
mention here that that those two winners, the male and
fuelal winners, are then going to be the two that
are sitting at the head of the table in deliberation,
and they will be deciding on out of the people
who are up for elimination, who's going to go in.
And if there is a stalemate, the person of the
opposite sex, the winner of the opposite sex, gets to
choose who goes in, So no more ties.
Speaker 2: Yes see. I feel like this is kind of dumb because, like,
for example, this week's elimination, if ultimately Jordan and Toy disagreed,
Toy gets the final, say, why even have Jordan there?
His opinion is meaningless, like if you have a day,
he has no power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is kind of dumb, But you know it's TV.
Speaker 1: Work on that Karma vote.
Speaker 3: That's true, but none of them know about the Karma
vote at the moment, so well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just saying that's why producers there got to work on
that karma vote, so go with their partner or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So we find out now that apparently
it's super hot outside. Everybody is complaining, especially Michelle, so
they're running back and forth collecting all these balls. Ryan
is the first one that we see to put two
balls into someone else's tube, and it just happens to
be Laurels. Pretty soon after that, Bananas does the same
to Jordan's tube, and you can't get those out. If
you drop them in a tube, they are gone. They
are helping someone else. I believe Ryan puts two into
Neamiyah's or no, maybe Derek. Derek puts two into Neomia's.
But the heat is definitely getting to people. They are
people are gassing out. You see theo walking and Car's
walking and Jenny's walking, and everybody's huffing and puffing and
does not look quick fun.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, the the puzzle is a tanagram that is all
black with a big white forty on it, but you
can't tell until you start putting the pieces together. Uh.
Jordan ends up winning for the guys, and pretty quickly
afterwards Tory wins for the ladies. Ryan fills his tube
not long after Jordan, but is sitting there trying to
do his puzzle for quite some time and people start
coming up and doing their puzzles and going and Ryan
does his puzzle and slaps the board and says, I
got it, and then TJ says, Nope, you gotta go back.
It's not done yet.
Speaker 1: To be fair, he solved it.
Speaker 3: I mean he did, but it may not have actually
been in the right order, and it was upside down
because Ryan did not realize that there was a big
white forty on the other side of the pieces, so
he probably solved it three or four times, but every
time he solved it it was upside down, so they
couldn't actually see if forty was together. Ultimately, Ryan gets
absolute last place for the guys, and TJ tells him
that there was a white forty on the other side
and he's just like, are you God damn it? And
then the ladies, Michelle is she can't make heads or
tails of this puzzle, and she loses for the Ladies
and immediately succumbs to heat stroke, falls down, says that
her arms are numb. Ambulance comes out all that sort
of thing, and then she's freaking out in the ambulance,
telling Olivia that she doesn't why she's there and at
the game that is because she doesn't feel like she
can compete, and that she's not as good as all
the other ladies and that she never does sports and
she's just there for the social aspect. And now that
Devin is gone, why am I here? What's your take
on this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's not wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think especially with the format change, you know, now,
knowing that like on Girls' Days, even if she's not
target she could go in. I think she's just freaking
out that, you know, she has to go against Jenny, Laurel,
you know, Rachel and all these women where she's like,
I'm not on their level, Like I'm gonna go into
elimination every time. Yep.
Speaker 1: Pretty much.
Speaker 3: Well, and then we get a little talking head from
Olivia telling us about the LOL alliance the Ladies of Leisure,
which is her, Naya and Michelle, and they like to
shop and they like to tan, and they like to
hang out at the pool, and they like to drink
alcohol and.
Speaker 1: They don't like to I want to be a part.
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, it does sound like fun alliance. It's not
really the alliance that you want to be part of
at the challenge though, because it's not going to take
you very far. But I mean, I guess they have
made it through half the game, so I guess it
has picking them relatively far.
Speaker 1: As soon as they she brought it up, I was like, yes,
I would like to see a brochure.
Speaker 2: Please, I'm prom it. I don't think you and I
would qualify for the Ladies of Leisure. I'm gonna have
to be like the Lads of Leisure.
Speaker 1: Shane could be on the Lavender Ladies. Why can't we
There you.
Speaker 3: Go, I guess that's true, all right, And that's it
for the challenge. We go straight to deliberation when we
get back to the house and Ryan starts it off
basically just saying, I don't want to go against Derek.
He's my best friend in the house, and don't to
go against him Derek. I actually appreciated what Derek had
to say, because Derek, you know, tells Ryan like I
love you and tells them you know, I don't want
to go against Derek or against Ryan because he's my
best friend in the house, and then he says, you know,
I've never talked game with you guys, and I'm not
going to start now. Like there there's no point in
me trying to plead my case basically, which I appreciate
it because I.
Speaker 1: Guess maybe he knew where it was going to fall anyway.
Speaker 3: So I mean maybe, but yeah, I even if he
didn't like, I don't know that he felt that he
could really change their minds even if he did try
to say something. But then you have the banana man.
Speaker 1: Yet that much. But he has spent the entire episode
throwing a fit because Tory made him a target.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's such a fit. He walked into
the into deliberation and pushes physically pushes her head to
the side. Rude, But yeah, he's been bitching and moaning
this entire episode so far in the background. Just I
can't believe they threw me in. I can't believe I
had to fight for this. I can't believe Mary, Mary, Mary,
my Mary, My man. It's just such a little bitch.
And he comes into this deliberation and basically they just
hand him a shovel and he just starts digging that
hole and just keeps digging it deeper and digging it
deeper and digging it deeper, and then he says this stupid, stupid,
fucking line about how most people come in here with hope,
but I don't come in here with hope. I come
in here with a wish. I wish a motherfucker would.
Speaker 2: That's right, So jackass, amazing it was.
Speaker 3: It was so dumb, Zach, it was so dumb. He
sounded like such an ass, just such an ass.
Speaker 2: I think I think he was justified with everything he said,
you know, I mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was in there trying to say that Tory shouldn't
have been playing with Devon, playing Devon's game, and that
she should have been helping out Johnny, which is complete
and total bullshit because she was on an alliance with
Devon and if he was in if they were in
switched positions, she would he would never be like, oh, yeah,
you should be on you should have sided with me.
Like it's such bullshit. Everything that he had to say
in there was such bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's the typical Johnny stuff because it's all like, hey,
I'm just making game moves, that's all. You can't get
mad about it. But again soon as someone else is
like one, I'm making game move moves for me.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, Oh, this is the worst
thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life.
I can't believe people would do this to me.
Speaker 3: See all's fair in love, war and challenges until it
happens to Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 2: I think it's still fair. I think he just thinks
it's stupid and like, I disagree with what you said, Carly, Like,
let's say next week Laurel goes out. We know Laurel
and Michelle don't like each other. If Banana's knows, like, hey,
working with Michelle benefits me, he's gonna do that because
that's what's best for him. He's not gonna say, well,
since Laurel's gone, Laurel didn't like you, Michelle, I need
to make the worst move for my game to avenge Laurel. No,
he's gonna do what's best for him and Toy and
him have a relationship. So now that Devon is gone,
it makes sense. When Devon's there, why they begins to know.
He's like, hey, Devin's gone, and doubt benefits She'll work
with me because we have a relationship so we can
help each other. Why he's defending someone's Simon here anymore?
Speaker 3: She still has an alliance with the rest of her team,
like the rest of the Vacation Alliance and the other
people that she's been allied with for the entire game.
He is not one of those people. And yeah, Devin
may not be there anymore, but he was Johnny was
still an absolute asshole trying to break up Devon and Michelle,
and that did affect Tory's game in a negative way.
So I completely understand why she's still siding with Devan
even though Devon isn't in the house.
Speaker 2: I think the best goal to have in these games
is the ability to adapt, and once Devin's gone, she
has a chance to look at the playing more than adapt.
But she doesn't mean she's just like hey, but she doesn't.
Speaker 3: She she could adapt, but she has an established alliance
and she's not gonna get The whole point of having
an alliance is that you don't go against So she's
not Josh. Honestly, I think that I think a big
reason as to why Johnny Bananas is talking a lot
of games were talking a lot of smack in this
elimination deliberation is because his elimination record is not good.
He has done not great in the elimination rounds, regardless
of who he's up against, So I feel like he
might have been sweating that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Um.
Speaker 3: This is where the opposite sex thing kind of comes
into play, because we get a talking head of Jordan
saying that he shouldna blame it all on Toy regardless
of what the outcome is. He canna blame it all
on her because he can, which why not, don't disagree
with It's the perfect time to do that sort of thing,
get a little bit of heat off of you. Not
that it's really gonna help.
Speaker 1: Him, but you know, he's still Jordan at the end
of the day.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And ultimately after going around the house and kind of
talking to other people and getting people on their side
and all that sort of thing, Oh well, I guess
that's a little bit later. First, before we go to
club night, we do get Johnny saying that Johnny calling
himself the pettiest, most vindictive prick in the challenge, which
I agree with.
Speaker 2: I agree did John I agree as well?
Speaker 1: He's petty and he's a prick.
Speaker 3: Yes he is on to club night in so uh,
we get Bananas talking about how he's gonna throw nya
in if he wins. And then we find out about
Johnny's angels, which was barf. Who are Rachel, Aviv, Laurel
and Jenny.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Everybody seems super confused as to why Rachel is there,
which I agree with. For someone who for years was
against Johnny and who is so strong in her own
right and can very obviously make alliances with all kinds
of people in this house, why the fuck would she
align herself with Johnny.
Speaker 2: She's so yeah aw yep. So last week Rachel was
actually on Banance podcast and she sat on there like
she has well, they've like bummed heads in the past.
She's always admired him as a player, She's always wanted
to work with him and align with him, but just
you know, their their pieces never matched up. But she's like,
I was so excited to play this season, john I've
been want to play with you for years. So I
think that's why it's like she has a lot of
respect for Johnny in his game, gotcha, I guess. But
you know it's they're talking about stuff like Johnny and
Tina hated each other, and you know, Tina's Rachel's girl,
and you know she always hated Kenny and Evan, and
she's like, I finally got to a point where like
there's enough piece between all of us that we could
work together, and like, finally make this happen.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, whatever, I still think it's poor choice. We and
then so Tory kind of talks about how she's surprised
that Rachel's over there, and then she and Rachel kind
of step off to the side and start talking a
little bit of game and basically make an alliance, which
I think this is a pretty strong fucking alliance. Like
Tory is a good player and Rachel's a fucking beast.
I think that they have some Seriously, if they stick
to those alliance, I think they have some serious carrying
power through the end of this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't see it happening though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's an individual game, so who fucking knows.
But back in the house, uh, we also see Rachel
make an alliance with Jordan, who he and Tory. Even
though they are no longer together, they still seem to
be pretty close pretty uh tightle allies and Rachel makes
an alliance with him, which I see that one lasting
longer than the one with Tory.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I got a phone call that bumped me temporarily,
Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's what I was saying though before
I got the phone call, was like, I really don't
see Tory gain to a point where she's gonna want
to cut the like Michelle's.
Speaker 2: And Olivia's of the world to bring Rachel to an end.
Like I feel like this is more Toy being like
I'm gonna pretend to work with you so you'll have
my back, but like when all of Johnny's other angels
are gone, like your next on the hill is after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I That's why I like when she
when they were back at the house and Rachel and
Jordan make an alliance. I think that the Rachel and
Jordan alliance has much more longevity than the Rachel and Tory.
Speaker 1: I agree with that Jordan's one of those people that
wants to compete against the best people.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I feel like Jordan has Tori's back
and Jordan has Nya's back, But I don't feel like
NYA is much longer for this game, and I mean
I could see Jordan and Rachel taking their alliance pretty far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't remember if they've stated it, but
I believe this is a season where there's a male
and a female winn it, right, So like Jordan has
I thought, so, I don't remember. Yeah, so in that case,
one winner. Yeah. Cool. So so Jordan has like no
reason not to like work with Rachel at the end
because she's not threat to him in terms of winning
for the men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, we can see a little bit of gameplay from
Tori because she starts going around and she's talking with
some of the other guys and basically getting there, as
Jordan says, says, their pledges of allegiance regardless of whether
she throws in bananas or if she throws in Derek,
kind of like regardless of what it might do to
their games. They are willing to stick with her, which
is kind of neat to see. But to Jordan's point,
everybody wants to see her throw bananas in and I
agree with that.
Speaker 1: I'm on board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime we can get the Banana Men into elimination.
Speaker 2: All love it. We love it, but I think it
is smart. I mean, he is the most winning player
in history. You're dumb to let him get to the
end because I think he can still win the final. Yep.
Speaker 3: I think get Johnny in there as soon as he can,
get Jordan in, as soon as he can get Wes in,
Tory ct, Carl, Maria Laurel, all of those big heavy
hitter players. If you don't get them in early, then
they're gonna stick to the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, I don't know how
I do, Like in terms of fan reaction wise, if
we can ever get a season where like, you know,
the the Kelly Ann's and the Derek's and the Rhinds
of the world come in and like from day one,
be like, hey, we are taking out all the heavy hitters,
all the past champions.
Speaker 3: You know, we had that chance. I mean, not that exactly,
but we've had that chance before where it's been like
the rookies have more people, and they are kind of
a little bit wise to the the vets being there
and always throwing in the rookies. And I can't remember
what season was two or three seasons ago where they
started throwing in the vets, like immediately started throwing in
the vets, and then like three episodes in, they just
dropped that premise entirely and it started being the rookies again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like they did that couple of seasons, like
I know with the USA two, I know they did
it as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but USA two was a bunch of people that
we didn't care about. Oh no, USA one was a
bunch of people we didn't care about.
Speaker 2: Yeah. USA two we had like Johnny who went early, Yeah,
someone else, and then we had like Bananas and Tory
and Jordan kind of snuck through to the end after all.
Speaker 3: That is that's the season that I'm thinking of, because
they were all there, and they were so worried initially
because it was new players versus Challenge players. They were
so worried initially because they started picking off all the Challengers,
and then like three or four episodes in, they just
completely negated that whole thing and started, you know, beating
each other up and whatever. All right, uh, and then
we've got Toy and Jordan go and tell the Banana
Man that he's the one going in and he hides
in a closet to get away from them.
Speaker 1: And Johnny in the closet.
Speaker 2: I mean it made me laugh. You that, Johnny if
nothing is always an entertainer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he threw a little temper tantrum.
Speaker 2: We usually see like these people just like laying in
bed and they coming get and they're just like okay,
at least like Johnny gave us funny TV trying to
hide it. You guys looking for you guys looking for Derek.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did call Derek's name. I will give him that.
Speaker 1: Buckle up, little lady.
Speaker 3: What an asshole, just a whiny little baby. Um. And
we are an elimination. We're just flying through the.
Speaker 1: This is the episode to miss the quickest one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems to happen when whenever he's not here.
I know, right, So the elimination is called killer Quads.
I thought the stupid super boring. At least I feel
like it would have been super boring to stand up,
like maybe a little anticipation, but super boring to stand
there and watch. So basically, there are two four wheelers,
one on either side of this arena. In the middle
of the arena, there is a big giant obol that
it's hay bales on top of the sand, and Johnny
and Ryan, who were the ones who were going in,
have to drive these four wheelers around this obol and
off the back of the four wheelers there is a
flag with a thing hanging down and you have to
it's basically capture the flag. You have to go and
grab the flag from your opponents the back of your
opponent's squad, and best two out of three wins.
Speaker 1: This so boring. I fast forward through half of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's one of those games that they
thought was going to be really fun. I feel like
it would be really fun to do, but I feel
like everybody who's standing there watching it and all of
us it's like, okay.
Speaker 2: See I was so confused the press because when they
first explained the rules, I thought they had to drive
at each other, like to have hall brawl style.
Speaker 3: On shousting style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to grab the flags. I was like, well, this
seems dangerous, and then like.
Speaker 1: That would have been more interesting to watch.
Speaker 2: It would have been until like, you know, someone's leg
gets ten between the machines and it's you know, decapitated
or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmmm, yeah, it just it was it was
not very fun to watch. They were just driving around
in circles on sand. The only two like entertaining things
that happened. Unfortunately, we're both Ryan and Yeah in the
first round. Uh well, so before before they get on
the quads, we find out that Ryan, because he lives
in New York City, drives like maybe maybe once a
month when he goes to his mother's house in New Jersey.
Uh so he hasn't he doesn't have a whole lot
of driving under his belt to you know, know, how
to corner and break and all that sort of thing quickly.
So in round one, Ryan looks ahead of himself on
the track to kind of figure out where Johnny is
and ends up kind of twisting his handlebars in the
opposite direction, run straight into the hailbit Heybales, tips his
four wheel a little bit, kind of falls off. Johnny's
able to catch up to him and pull the flag.
And then round two, which I have a question about this.
So round two, it starts off and Ryan pretty it
looks like, relatively quickly starts gaining on bananas and then
is literally inches from being able to grab that flag
and just kind of loses his balance on it. And
kind of, you know, it knocks him over a little bit,
so he loses all of that lead that he just got.
Bananas pulls away. By the time Ryan gets going again
and Bananas is back on, is basically three quarters the
way around the track, and within two or three rounds
he's able to come up behind Ryan and pull his flag.
My question to you, guys, do you think Bananas purposely
slowed down at the beginning of the second round.
Speaker 2: I don't so I didn't notice this one watching, but
I did see today when I was looking at social
media news a lot of people are commenting, this seems
like the black four wheeler which Bananas was on the
second round, Ryan was on the first round, seemed to
be like having a lot more struggled with the sand
than the other one was. Oh so, I think if
anything it had to do with one of the four
wheelers was not as well equipped as the other.
Speaker 3: Gotcha because it looked like in watching it today, it
kind of looked like, maybe not purposely purposely, but like
somewhat subconsciously, Johnny was going a little bit slower the
second round, which, if it was the four wheelers, that
makes sense.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, Brian ends up losing. Johnny Bananas wins uh, and
he is down there and he is he's psyched. He's
so excited because he is gonna pick Tory to be
one of the targets for next week. He's so started.
And then we've got TJ comes out and says, all right,
you can choose anybody up there except except the winners
from this week, and Bananas.
Speaker 1: Is past throws a big, old giant fit once again.
Speaker 3: Bananas. It's literally every single season you cannot pick the winners.
That's always how it's been.
Speaker 2: So I will say, normally you cannot pick the winners
for that elimination of that episode that round. When's the
nurt season where if you win Elimination one, you're immune
from elimination, or like Daily Challenge one, you're immune from
the next episode's elimination. I feel like this is new.
Speaker 1: She could be she could come in dead last to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying, like I do think that
because they're picking targets for next week, they it doesn't
work that she's out of elimination this week. This is
the way it has to work.
Speaker 2: I guess, but I just don't think it's that crazy
that he was caught off guard because normally, if you
win the daily Challenge, you are safe for the next elimination.
It's not like, hey, normally are you safe for the
next elimination because you're the winner, But also you can't
be in danger that the following challenge as well.
Speaker 3: We have definitely had this before this season. They there's
a season where they were standing on like individual they
were teams or pairs, they were standing on platform. I
can't remember which season it was. I don't remember if
it was the one where Zach and Amanda had to
or went down, But there have definitely been seasons where
you have the if you win, you were not eligible
for elimination next week. Like I honestly, I didn't think
that this was that big of a twist. I kind
of expected it because, yeah, you won the ability to
be the deciding factor for this week, but I mean
that immediately makes you the in all For most people,
that would immediately make you a target for next week.
So I think this is a good way to kind
of keep that game from happening and make them like
think a little bit harder about it. I didn't have
to throw in so I didn't think this was that
big of a twist, and the fact that Banana's got
so butt hurt about it was just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: In fact, he was mumbling about it on his way
out of the area.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he was so mad. It's not out
of the norm, it was. It's not a completely you know,
it's just Banana's being Banana. Oh excuse me being Bananas.
Speaker 2: I don't remember this in the past season, so I'll
definitely look into this weekend so if I can find that.
When you're talking about Carlyn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not. I can't remember if it was
the winners or if it was just the winner of
that elimination was not eligible for the next week. There's
something with winners where they were not eligible for the
next week's elimination. And I will say that we've had
it like this before. I just didn't feel like this
was that out of the norm.
Speaker 2: I will agree that we have had things where if
you win elimination, you cannot just go back into elimination
the following week. I don't believe we've ever had if
you win this daily challenge, you get you know, safety
for the next episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe I am conflating the two. But it's
still like regardless. It just it doesn't seem that out
of the norm.
Speaker 1: Wasn't some of the seasons where they had grenades, couldn't
they not play the grenades on the winners of that week?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: That might be what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, I think if I remember correctly,
that was part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So hus Bananas cannot pick Tory, which he is very
mad about, and even though he has placed blame on
Jordan as well, he cannot pick Jordan because Jordan is
a man.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that, no, I guess we didn't.
Speaker 3: He Yeah, earlier when when they told him that he
was getting thrown in, he turned to Jordan and said,
you know you're not off the hook, dude. This is
your choice just as.
Speaker 1: Much as your choice as it deserves, is it, Johnny,
Is it really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, to which we've got a little talking head of
Jordan saying, you know, I'm the left. Let him puff
and puff. It'll be out of his system in a
day or two. We'll be playing guitar and howling at
the moon, no big deal, which I agree with. I
think they will be absolutely fine. Because Johnny has that mo.
Speaker 2: So I did check. So yes it's vendettas. And yes,
if you want a grenade, you cannot use a grenade
on a former Troy commember.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So the targets that Johnny picked are Naya,
Devon's pet snake, Olivia and devn soon to be ex
girlfriend Michelle. Michelle and Olivia took took umbrage with what
he had to say there. They were not happy in
the in the next week on it looks like these
little comments that he just made are going to come
back to start a little bit of a fire in
the house. Yep, I agree, yep, And that's the that's
the whole episode.
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those reviews were hilarious and so wrong lol. I listened
to you guys because I like the bickering and love
the different opinions, especially Carlin's. Her opinions are always spot on.
If I wanted to listen to people agreeing with one
person who's always right quotation, then I would listen to
Banana's podcast.
Speaker 2: I do agree with Bananas is always right.
Speaker 3: No, no, he is not yes, indeed, thank you very
much for that review. That was very sweet of you.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about the fantasy leaks?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: And what might be Tim's last week playing?
Speaker 2: Uh? Oh, I mean I did say won't be missed
the last week, but I did say I would if
Tim goes out, I would give him some of my
players so he could stay.
Speaker 3: In Jesus, he did say that, so well, I'll let
Zach do his scores in just a minute. But Tim
has lost another player. So Tim's team, yeah, just Tim's
team is just Laurel. I mean, that's what happens when
you let other people pick your team members for you.
Pretty sure that Sally picked someone, Stove picked a few.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's easy to say this hindsight being
twenty twenty, but I was looking at Tim's team today
and I'm like, Okay, Like Laurel's good, but like, what
was him thinking with the rest of these people, Like,
I don't feel like.
Speaker 3: Well he picked he picked Brad and Derek because he
loves them. Well, yeah, Brad because he loves him, Leroy
because he loves him. He had harass, you know, even
though he hates Horasio Garassio.
Speaker 2: I think we all well, I think we all thought
he'd do better. But also Tim and I and Tim
and I shared that, you know when we went to
the Cleveland Tom's Mania that Rassio is very upset with
It's I think we all kind of knew Rossio did
not have a great season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know why he picked him. Maybe
he was the last one that pick.
Speaker 2: I think he is really late. Yeah, I think that
actually happened Stove's pick. So may him been like Stove,
did you miss us saying that like Harassio was very
upset with his performance.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that might have been up. Yeah, I don't
know what he was thinking with some of his picks
see Kelly and Leroy, Amanda Horasio, Brad Avery, Casey, Derek
and Ryan other than Laurel. Yeah, it's an interesting lineup.
But yeah, I still have four players. Wolfe still has
four players, and for and Zachi Banana's over here with
what eight eight eight?
Speaker 1: My players are looking better than ever.
Speaker 2: You got the Banana man, So like.
Speaker 1: Johnny Bananas, I got Tory, I got Kara, and then
I got Naya.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I really do wonder if Nya is gonna
make it through the next few episodes.
Speaker 2: This might be I'm a spoiler alert, but I did
fill out my fantasy picks for this week and the
questions of who goes home next week? I chose Naya,
So did you? I did.
Speaker 3: She's She's pretty high on my list for the one
to go home.
Speaker 2: I think I did. I think I did her on
one of them and Michelle on the other because I
felt like both of them. I was like, I don't
feel the best about.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, since the scores are dismal, why don't
you go ahead and give us the scores on the
host league?
Speaker 2: Zactly? Alrighty, yeah, pull up the photo of it, so
I know in last place with seventy five points, it's
tim h. We have a two way tie for second
place between Welfy and Carlin at ninety two.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I would say any any tie is a
two way tie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got a three way.
Speaker 3: Tie, it's true, but that would be for first, and
you're so far ahead of us that it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm at one seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Six rigged all right, Well, onto the real fantasy league
that everybody cares about.
Speaker 2: The public league, the one of them losing in horribly.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Public League is still CT phone Home with
eighteen forty. I touched Johnny's Banana with eighteen thirty seven,
and I'm closing it on the two of them with
eighteen twenty. And then we've got Big Uncle Sweet Tea
is in twenty first with fourteen twenty eight, U Zachie
Bananas is at thirteen four and twenty eighth, and Wolfy.
Speaker 1: Where are you twenty second? I'm right after tim Oh.
Speaker 3: I totally missed that. Sorry. Wolfey is in twenty second
at nine thirteen ninety nine. All right, and then the
other one, the Weekly Budget League. It's again CT Phone
Home with twelve twenty one eighteen. I touched Johnny's Banana
with twenty one seventeen, and I am in third with
twenty one oh eight. And then we've got zach is
at eighth with eighteen oh eight, and Big Uncle Sweet
Tea's at twelfth with thirteen ninety nine. I think Big
Uncle Sweet Tea needs to stop slow playing this game.
She has said it every week that he is slow
playing the Public League. Got you gotta throw some heavy
hitters in there, like immediately he's.
Speaker 1: Leading two things ship Jack just left town. You won't listen,
but that's a reference.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so that's where we're at on on the leagues, Zach.
Speaker 2: Do we got any social media It's this a little
social media week, but uh, we do have one thing.
So Jordan was doing like a if it's an Instagram
live or what he's streaming. He's streaming on some platform
and someone asked him about Kyland, and Devin's said that
Kyland is one of the most overrated challenge players he's
ever seen. Josh was also with him and said Kyland's
annoying his f So apparently there's some Kyland backlash going on. Sure, Josh, sure,
but uh, that's only all thing I have. But yeah, surprise.
I'm curious to see if something happens with the Kyland
and Jordan. Of why Jordan and not joined, I mean Devin,
who's already gone, But why Devin has such a dislike
for Kyland?
Speaker 1: Who knows? So anything else.
Speaker 2: That's about it. They were in Amsterdam this past week
film in the Reunion. I guess the only exciting thing
there is. It was originally reported that Amanda would not
be part of the reunion, but Banana's posted a video
of her there, so she did show up.
Speaker 3: Why she only showed up for the first episode.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But she's looking good. Tim's gonna love
and we see that she's in like a full skimpy
like devil costume, complete with horns and everything.
Speaker 3: Are they going in costume to the to the.
Speaker 2: No? No, all the other pictures and videos that alumni
posted from the event, they're all dressed up. Bananas is
in a student tie and yeah, she's in choosing the
devil's costume. Maybe they just brought her out there to
like sit there and like roast people and just be
a jerk to them.
Speaker 3: Oh, actually, I wouldn't be surprised by that devil costume
at all.
Speaker 1: Makes sense. All right, well, I guess for this episode
of Challenged, this.
Speaker 2: Has been Brian carl in San Diego, Zachy Bananas.
Speaker 1: It is Johnny very smart, Eli said, buckle up, little
Lady's
Speaker 3: Got Charlie's Charie ch