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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to an episode of Challenge Podcast. All

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about the Challenge aka Johnny Bananas throws a temper tantrum

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for an hour and a half. As always, I am Brian,

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sitting in Minnesota, Arlen San Diego, and sitting at work

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Douglass dogless, I said, Carlin was sitting there with her dog.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh it is the lieutenant Colonel of the

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Bananas Angels, Zachi Bananas Bors.

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Speaker 1: Everybody ahead every challenge pot dot com. Join the Facebook.

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Hey Carlin, what happened in this episode?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Season forty, episode ten, new era. Also just side note,

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the picture on the thumbnail for this episode is a

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big picture of Anissa from earlier on in the season.

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So I had an immediate like, wait a second, are

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they bringing people back? Like what is happening here? Scared

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me just a little bit. It's a little bit confused.

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But we start the episode off with a clip from

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I Believe Free Agents when they're talking about when car

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Marie is talking about throwing bananas in, right, good clip.

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I agree. Every time that you get the chance to

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throw bananas in, throw them in. And then everybody's coming

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back from the from elimination, like kick the door in

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and oh no, that's later. They just walk in the house.

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There's lots of talk about Devon, lots and lots and

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lots of talk about Devon. Corey makes a note that

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makes a note of it and says that they should

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just have a cutout of him, but they can just

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place around the house because this entire episode was very

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full of Devon, even though Devon went home last.

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Speaker 1: Episode, still influencing the game.

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Speaker 3: Yep, everybody's still playing his game. Didn't you know that? Yeah,

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they're just not playing this other person's game. Ridiculous. Ryan

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comes into the house real heated. He is not a

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happy camper because Tory threw both him and Derek in

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with Johnny Bananas, and his immediate thought was, why would

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you do that to us? If you really wanted to

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get Bananas out, why wouldn't you throw someone in like

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THEO who actually has a legitimate chance of beating him?

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Speaker 2: Sounds Theo's in her alliance, that's why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's tangentially attached to her alliance. Yeah, Unfortunately, there's

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not really any other guys that she could I mean,

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maybe Corey, because he's only like he's way down on

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the alliance. But we've already seen some backlash there. I

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don't know that there's any other guys that she could

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throw in that wouldn't like come to kick her in

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the invider in the ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even because yeah, because not only do you probably

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piss off thea if you throw him in, but again

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then piss off Olivia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you picked Josh, is what you do?

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Speaker 3: You should?

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Speaker 1: Oh, hey, you've been flip flopping so much this season.

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Guess what you might have to go against? Bananas?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Josh, we get a scene of him and

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Tory are talking and they're, Oh, they're so sad because

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that the only two left is the vacation Alliance.

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Speaker 1: We're the only vacation people live.

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Speaker 3: And then Josh lists off that he's really good friends

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with Bananas, and he's really good friends with Rachel, and

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he's got Tory and all these things, and then Tory

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makes it. She has a confessional saying Josh has too

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many friends in this house and it's this episode really

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shows what it means to have an alliance and stick

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with your alliance. I realized that her alliance is gone,

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but have an alliance, have a backbone, and stick with

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your alliance, even if you're it's not the most popular choice.

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I guess probably was the lest popular choice. But it

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if this was Josh in her position, he would have

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just crumbled so quickly.

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Speaker 1: But no, you know doesn't crumble. He doesn't ball his

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Speaker 3: And then come, I'm so so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't do that right now. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: You never one. But but I'm not going to fight

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to keep her here.

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Speaker 2: So I guess you it depends what you mean like

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he's gonna crumble, because if you mean like he wouldn't

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thrown Rachel, I don't think that's crumbling. I think that's

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make guess my choice in prioritizing his own game over

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his quote unquote teams game.

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Speaker 3: He didn't help his ride or die his number one

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last episode. He crumbled last episode, but that.

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Speaker 2: Was We're very.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is one of the sloppiest. We also get

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she's a lot happier and is more able to be

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herself than she has been in past seasons. I feel

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like she's always in the last few seasons that she's

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been on, which I realized were you know, years ago

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she maybe the being with the boys was her armor,

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but she felt like she was being herself then too. Whenever. Oh,

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and then we get a scene of Michelle trying to

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create an alliance with Jordan because she understands that Jordan

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is a good is a big player in this game

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and it is probably gonna go pretty goddamn far. So

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she probably isn't if she doesn't align with him, and

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especially now that Devin has gone, she is relatively rudderless. Uh.

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And now we're onto the challenge. We're just flying to

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this episode today.

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Speaker 2: I was not prepared.

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Speaker 1: I was not prepared play damn you how it's.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So we walk into the challenge and TJ tells everybody,

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you are still wrapping your eras. But don't get me wrong,

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this is an individual game. So I don't know why

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they keep harping on this eras thing like it. It

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doesn't actually make any difference. They're all wearing the same

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color shirt. They're not in an alliance of their eras anymore.

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They can play it however they want. I don't understand

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why they keep doing it, but whatever. He also tells

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us the targets again, which are Rachel, Aviv, Jenny, Johnny, Bananas, Ryan,

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and Derek, and then he pulls out a coin and says,

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but only one of you guys, one of your genders,

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is going to compete today in the elimination. He flips

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a coin and ultimately ends up being boysed day. Jenny

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is real stoked on this, real real happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He does mention though, that don't get last place because

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you'll get penalized for next week. And the way that

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he says it originally, it makes it sound like if

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you are last place out of everybody, you'll get penalized

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for next For the ladies, if they are last place

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out of everybody, they'll get penalized for next week. But

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I think what it actually is is that if they

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are the last place female, regardless of where, whether there

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are still more guys to go, they will get penalized

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for next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some questions about how these new rules

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are going to work, and we didn't get any of

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them answer this episode.

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Speaker 3: Nope, we probably won't see any of the answers until

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next week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what questions you have, because I feel like

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it's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: So we have targets. Yeah, right, but then is it

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the last target that comes in the furthest down or

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is it the person who goes last, who becomes last

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out of everybody. I have that question too, And then

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they choose from the targets who they're going to go

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up against.

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Speaker 3: Because there was a point in time where it sounded

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like I think THEO later on in the episode, he

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made it sound like, if you came in last place,

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regardless of whether you were a target or not, if

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you were if your gender was competing that day, the elimination,

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if you were the person who came in last place,

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you were going in regardless of whether you were a

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target or not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct. TJ specified that at the end

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of the episode, saying, even if you're not a target,

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if you come in last place, you will be an elimination.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I must have missed that. H I find that

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a little strange. I kind of like it though, because

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it's a fun little twist.

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Speaker 1: Like because they can figure out how to get rid

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of people who are not targets, which is nice.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like if they decide they all want to

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team up against bananas, and you know that the one

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from the other day where they all had to push

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the gladiator one where they had to push each other off.

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If they all teamed up and went against Johnny and

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knocked him out first, then technically he would be in

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last place and he and if he was.

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Speaker 2: Last week's podcast Wolfe.

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Speaker 1: I didn't listen to the last week's podcast.

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Speaker 2: We had a review where they specified they did not

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like the anti bananas.

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Speaker 1: Well, they also said.

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Speaker 3: That I talk over everyone and I'm I'm an actress.

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What mm hmmmm, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: We had we had quite a few negative ones last week.

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It was it was Challenge eight week.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty funny though. Yeah, we had we had

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some some entertaining, entertaining reviews. I got some laughter at

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of them, for sure. I guess we could get back

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to the actual game. Uh. So he tells us the targets. Uh,

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the game. So the game is called fire Away.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: There is a giant trebuche in the middle or at

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the end of one side of the field. This tree

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is going to be launched by t J and there

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are a bunch of little balls in it, and it's

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gonna fling balls all over this field and all of

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the players have to run out there and collect as

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many balls as they can at a time, and these

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balls off in the tube next to their name on

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the other side of the field, and once that tube

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is filled up, then they can do the puzzle, and

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the first male and female to do the puzzle win

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last is in last place for both uh. He does

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mention here that that those two winners, the male and

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fuelal winners, are then going to be the two that

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are sitting at the head of the table in deliberation,

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and they will be deciding on out of the people

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who are up for elimination, who's going to go in.

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opposite sex, the winner of the opposite sex, gets to

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choose who goes in, So no more ties.

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Speaker 2: Yes see. I feel like this is kind of dumb because, like,

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for example, this week's elimination, if ultimately Jordan and Toy disagreed,

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Toy gets the final, say, why even have Jordan there?

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His opinion is meaningless, like if you have a day,

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he has no power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is kind of dumb, But you know it's TV.

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Speaker 1: Work on that Karma vote.

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Speaker 3: That's true, but none of them know about the Karma

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vote at the moment, so well, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just saying that's why producers there got to work on

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that karma vote, so go with their partner or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So we find out now that apparently

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it's super hot outside. Everybody is complaining, especially Michelle, so

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they're running back and forth collecting all these balls. Ryan

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is the first one that we see to put two

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balls into someone else's tube, and it just happens to

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be Laurels. Pretty soon after that, Bananas does the same

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to Jordan's tube, and you can't get those out. If

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you drop them in a tube, they are gone. They

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are helping someone else. I believe Ryan puts two into

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Neamiyah's or no, maybe Derek. Derek puts two into Neomia's.

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But the heat is definitely getting to people. They are

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people are gassing out. You see theo walking and Car's

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walking and Jenny's walking, and everybody's huffing and puffing and

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does not look quick fun.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, the the puzzle is a tanagram that is all

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black with a big white forty on it, but you

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can't tell until you start putting the pieces together. Uh.

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Jordan ends up winning for the guys, and pretty quickly

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afterwards Tory wins for the ladies. Ryan fills his tube

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not long after Jordan, but is sitting there trying to

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do his puzzle for quite some time and people start

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coming up and doing their puzzles and going and Ryan

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does his puzzle and slaps the board and says, I

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got it, and then TJ says, Nope, you gotta go back.

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It's not done yet.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, he solved it.

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Speaker 3: I mean he did, but it may not have actually

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been in the right order, and it was upside down

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because Ryan did not realize that there was a big

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white forty on the other side of the pieces, so

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he probably solved it three or four times, but every

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time he solved it it was upside down, so they

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couldn't actually see if forty was together. Ultimately, Ryan gets

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absolute last place for the guys, and TJ tells him

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that there was a white forty on the other side

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and he's just like, are you God damn it? And

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then the ladies, Michelle is she can't make heads or

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tails of this puzzle, and she loses for the Ladies

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and immediately succumbs to heat stroke, falls down, says that

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her arms are numb. Ambulance comes out all that sort

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of thing, and then she's freaking out in the ambulance,

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telling Olivia that she doesn't why she's there and at

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the game that is because she doesn't feel like she

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can compete, and that she's not as good as all

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the other ladies and that she never does sports and

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she's just there for the social aspect. And now that

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Devin is gone, why am I here? What's your take

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on this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think especially with the format change, you know, now,

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knowing that like on Girls' Days, even if she's not

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target she could go in. I think she's just freaking

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out that, you know, she has to go against Jenny, Laurel,

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you know, Rachel and all these women where she's like,

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I'm not on their level, Like I'm gonna go into

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elimination every time. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Well, and then we get a little talking head from

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Olivia telling us about the LOL alliance the Ladies of Leisure,

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which is her, Naya and Michelle, and they like to

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shop and they like to tan, and they like to

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hang out at the pool, and they like to drink

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alcohol and.

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Speaker 1: They don't like to I want to be a part.

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, it does sound like fun alliance. It's not

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really the alliance that you want to be part of

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at the challenge though, because it's not going to take

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you very far. But I mean, I guess they have

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made it through half the game, so I guess it

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has picking them relatively far.

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Speaker 1: As soon as they she brought it up, I was like, yes,

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I would like to see a brochure.

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Speaker 2: Please, I'm prom it. I don't think you and I

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would qualify for the Ladies of Leisure. I'm gonna have

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to be like the Lads of Leisure.

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Speaker 1: Shane could be on the Lavender Ladies. Why can't we

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There you.

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Speaker 3: Go, I guess that's true, all right, And that's it

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for the challenge. We go straight to deliberation when we

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get back to the house and Ryan starts it off

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basically just saying, I don't want to go against Derek.

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He's my best friend in the house, and don't to

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go against him Derek. I actually appreciated what Derek had

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to say, because Derek, you know, tells Ryan like I

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love you and tells them you know, I don't want

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to go against Derek or against Ryan because he's my

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best friend in the house, and then he says, you know,

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I've never talked game with you guys, and I'm not

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going to start now. Like there there's no point in

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me trying to plead my case basically, which I appreciate

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it because I.

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Speaker 1: Guess maybe he knew where it was going to fall anyway.

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Speaker 3: So I mean maybe, but yeah, I even if he

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didn't like, I don't know that he felt that he

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could really change their minds even if he did try

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to say something. But then you have the banana man.

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Speaker 1: Yet that much. But he has spent the entire episode

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throwing a fit because Tory made him a target.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's such a fit. He walked into

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the into deliberation and pushes physically pushes her head to

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the side. Rude, But yeah, he's been bitching and moaning

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this entire episode so far in the background. Just I

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can't believe they threw me in. I can't believe I

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had to fight for this. I can't believe Mary, Mary, Mary,

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my Mary, My man. It's just such a little bitch.

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And he comes into this deliberation and basically they just

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hand him a shovel and he just starts digging that

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hole and just keeps digging it deeper and digging it

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deeper and digging it deeper, and then he says this stupid, stupid,

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fucking line about how most people come in here with hope,

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but I don't come in here with hope. I come

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in here with a wish. I wish a motherfucker would.

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Speaker 2: That's right, So jackass, amazing it was.

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Speaker 3: It was so dumb, Zach, it was so dumb. He

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sounded like such an ass, just such an ass.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he was justified with everything he said,

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you know, I mean he was.

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Speaker 3: He was in there trying to say that Tory shouldn't

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have been playing with Devon, playing Devon's game, and that

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she should have been helping out Johnny, which is complete

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and total bullshit because she was on an alliance with

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Devon and if he was in if they were in

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switched positions, she would he would never be like, oh, yeah,

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you should be on you should have sided with me.

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Like it's such bullshit. Everything that he had to say

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in there was such bullshit.

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Speaker 1: It's the typical Johnny stuff because it's all like, hey,

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I'm just making game moves, that's all. You can't get

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mad about it. But again soon as someone else is

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like one, I'm making game move moves for me.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, Oh, this is the worst

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thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life.

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I can't believe people would do this to me.

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Speaker 3: See all's fair in love, war and challenges until it

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happens to Johnny Bananas.

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Speaker 2: I think it's still fair. I think he just thinks

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it's stupid and like, I disagree with what you said, Carly, Like,

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let's say next week Laurel goes out. We know Laurel

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and Michelle don't like each other. If Banana's knows, like, hey,

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working with Michelle benefits me, he's gonna do that because

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that's what's best for him. He's not gonna say, well,

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since Laurel's gone, Laurel didn't like you, Michelle, I need

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to make the worst move for my game to avenge Laurel. No,

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he's gonna do what's best for him and Toy and

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him have a relationship. So now that Devon is gone,

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it makes sense. When Devon's there, why they begins to know.

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He's like, hey, Devin's gone, and doubt benefits She'll work

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with me because we have a relationship so we can

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help each other. Why he's defending someone's Simon here anymore?

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Speaker 3: She still has an alliance with the rest of her team,

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like the rest of the Vacation Alliance and the other

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people that she's been allied with for the entire game.

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He is not one of those people. And yeah, Devin

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may not be there anymore, but he was Johnny was

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still an absolute asshole trying to break up Devon and Michelle,

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and that did affect Tory's game in a negative way.

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So I completely understand why she's still siding with Devan

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even though Devon isn't in the house.

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Speaker 2: I think the best goal to have in these games

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is the ability to adapt, and once Devin's gone, she

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has a chance to look at the playing more than adapt.

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But she doesn't mean she's just like hey, but she doesn't.

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Speaker 3: She she could adapt, but she has an established alliance

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and she's not gonna get The whole point of having

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an alliance is that you don't go against So she's

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not Josh. Honestly, I think that I think a big

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reason as to why Johnny Bananas is talking a lot

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of games were talking a lot of smack in this

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elimination deliberation is because his elimination record is not good.

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He has done not great in the elimination rounds, regardless

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of who he's up against, So I feel like he

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might have been sweating that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Um.

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Speaker 3: This is where the opposite sex thing kind of comes

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into play, because we get a talking head of Jordan

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saying that he shouldna blame it all on Toy regardless

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of what the outcome is. He canna blame it all

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on her because he can, which why not, don't disagree

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with It's the perfect time to do that sort of thing,

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get a little bit of heat off of you. Not

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that it's really gonna help.

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Speaker 1: Him, but you know, he's still Jordan at the end

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of the day.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And ultimately after going around the house and kind of

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talking to other people and getting people on their side

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and all that sort of thing, Oh well, I guess

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that's a little bit later. First, before we go to

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club night, we do get Johnny saying that Johnny calling

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himself the pettiest, most vindictive prick in the challenge, which

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I agree with.

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Speaker 2: I agree did John I agree as well?

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Speaker 1: He's petty and he's a prick.

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Speaker 3: Yes he is on to club night in so uh,

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we get Bananas talking about how he's gonna throw nya

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in if he wins. And then we find out about

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Johnny's angels, which was barf. Who are Rachel, Aviv, Laurel

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and Jenny.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Everybody seems super confused as to why Rachel is there,

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which I agree with. For someone who for years was

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against Johnny and who is so strong in her own

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right and can very obviously make alliances with all kinds

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of people in this house, why the fuck would she

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align herself with Johnny.

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Speaker 2: She's so yeah aw yep. So last week Rachel was

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actually on Banance podcast and she sat on there like

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she has well, they've like bummed heads in the past.

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She's always admired him as a player, She's always wanted

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to work with him and align with him, but just

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you know, their their pieces never matched up. But she's like,

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I was so excited to play this season, john I've

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been want to play with you for years. So I

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think that's why it's like she has a lot of

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respect for Johnny in his game, gotcha, I guess. But

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you know it's they're talking about stuff like Johnny and

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Tina hated each other, and you know, Tina's Rachel's girl,

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and you know she always hated Kenny and Evan, and

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she's like, I finally got to a point where like

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there's enough piece between all of us that we could

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work together, and like, finally make this happen.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, whatever, I still think it's poor choice. We and

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then so Tory kind of talks about how she's surprised

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that Rachel's over there, and then she and Rachel kind

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of step off to the side and start talking a

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little bit of game and basically make an alliance, which

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I think this is a pretty strong fucking alliance. Like

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Tory is a good player and Rachel's a fucking beast.

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I think that they have some Seriously, if they stick

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to those alliance, I think they have some serious carrying

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power through the end of this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't see it happening though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's an individual game, so who fucking knows.

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But back in the house, uh, we also see Rachel

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make an alliance with Jordan, who he and Tory. Even

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though they are no longer together, they still seem to

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be pretty close pretty uh tightle allies and Rachel makes

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an alliance with him, which I see that one lasting

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longer than the one with Tory.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I got a phone call that bumped me temporarily,

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Can you guys hear me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's what I was saying though before

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I got the phone call, was like, I really don't

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see Tory gain to a point where she's gonna want

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to cut the like Michelle's.

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Speaker 2: And Olivia's of the world to bring Rachel to an end.

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Like I feel like this is more Toy being like

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I'm gonna pretend to work with you so you'll have

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my back, but like when all of Johnny's other angels

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are gone, like your next on the hill is after that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I That's why I like when she

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when they were back at the house and Rachel and

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Jordan make an alliance. I think that the Rachel and

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Jordan alliance has much more longevity than the Rachel and Tory.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that Jordan's one of those people that

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wants to compete against the best people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I feel like Jordan has Tori's back

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and Jordan has Nya's back, But I don't feel like

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NYA is much longer for this game, and I mean

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I could see Jordan and Rachel taking their alliance pretty far.

476
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't remember if they've stated it, but

477
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400
I believe this is a season where there's a male

478
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,400
and a female winn it, right, So like Jordan has

479
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,680
I thought, so, I don't remember. Yeah, so in that case,

480
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:25,039
one winner. Yeah. Cool. So so Jordan has like no

481
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,039
reason not to like work with Rachel at the end

482
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,960
because she's not threat to him in terms of winning

483
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:30,480
for the men.

484
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true.

485
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

486
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,039
Speaker 3: Uh, we can see a little bit of gameplay from

487
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,680
Tori because she starts going around and she's talking with

488
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,880
some of the other guys and basically getting there, as

489
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Jordan says, says, their pledges of allegiance regardless of whether

490
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,000
she throws in bananas or if she throws in Derek,

491
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,200
kind of like regardless of what it might do to

492
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,880
their games. They are willing to stick with her, which

493
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,599
is kind of neat to see. But to Jordan's point,

494
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,200
everybody wants to see her throw bananas in and I

495
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,920
agree with that.

496
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm on board.

497
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime we can get the Banana Men into elimination.

498
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: All love it. We love it, but I think it

499
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,880
is smart. I mean, he is the most winning player

500
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720
in history. You're dumb to let him get to the

501
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,480
end because I think he can still win the final. Yep.

502
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,559
Speaker 3: I think get Johnny in there as soon as he can,

503
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,559
get Jordan in, as soon as he can get Wes in,

504
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,720
Tory ct, Carl, Maria Laurel, all of those big heavy

505
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:43,319
hitter players. If you don't get them in early, then

506
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:45,000
they're gonna stick to the end.

507
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, I don't know how

508
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,000
I do, Like in terms of fan reaction wise, if

509
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,640
we can ever get a season where like, you know,

510
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,319
the the Kelly Ann's and the Derek's and the Rhinds

511
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,440
of the world come in and like from day one,

512
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,319
be like, hey, we are taking out all the heavy hitters,

513
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:03,519
all the past champions.

514
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, we had that chance. I mean, not that exactly,

515
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:12,119
but we've had that chance before where it's been like

516
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:17,039
the rookies have more people, and they are kind of

517
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,400
a little bit wise to the the vets being there

518
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920
and always throwing in the rookies. And I can't remember

519
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200
what season was two or three seasons ago where they

520
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,720
started throwing in the vets, like immediately started throwing in

521
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440
the vets, and then like three episodes in, they just

522
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,920
dropped that premise entirely and it started being the rookies again.

523
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

524
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:40,079
Speaker 2: I feel like they did that couple of seasons, like

525
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,160
I know with the USA two, I know they did

526
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,960
it as well.

527
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but USA two was a bunch of people that

528
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:50,759
we didn't care about. Oh no, USA one was a

529
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:51,839
bunch of people we didn't care about.

530
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. USA two we had like Johnny who went early, Yeah,

531
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,119
someone else, and then we had like Bananas and Tory

532
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960
and Jordan kind of snuck through to the end after all.

533
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: That is that's the season that I'm thinking of, because

534
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,160
they were all there, and they were so worried initially

535
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,440
because it was new players versus Challenge players. They were

536
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,519
so worried initially because they started picking off all the Challengers,

537
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,119
and then like three or four episodes in, they just

538
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,559
completely negated that whole thing and started, you know, beating

539
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:31,119
each other up and whatever. All right, uh, and then

540
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,960
we've got Toy and Jordan go and tell the Banana

541
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Man that he's the one going in and he hides

542
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,319
in a closet to get away from them.

543
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: And Johnny in the closet.

544
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean it made me laugh. You that, Johnny if

545
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,880
nothing is always an entertainer.

546
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he threw a little temper tantrum.

547
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,839
Speaker 2: We usually see like these people just like laying in

548
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,480
bed and they coming get and they're just like okay,

549
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,079
at least like Johnny gave us funny TV trying to

550
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,319
hide it. You guys looking for you guys looking for Derek.

551
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did call Derek's name. I will give him that.

552
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Buckle up, little lady.

553
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: What an asshole, just a whiny little baby. Um. And

554
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:32,799
we are an elimination. We're just flying through the.

555
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: This is the episode to miss the quickest one.

556
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems to happen when whenever he's not here.

557
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,759
I know, right, So the elimination is called killer Quads.

558
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:52,119
I thought the stupid super boring. At least I feel

559
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720
like it would have been super boring to stand up,

560
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:56,960
like maybe a little anticipation, but super boring to stand

561
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,799
there and watch. So basically, there are two four wheelers,

562
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,200
one on either side of this arena. In the middle

563
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880
of the arena, there is a big giant obol that

564
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,240
it's hay bales on top of the sand, and Johnny

565
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,119
and Ryan, who were the ones who were going in,

566
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:19,240
have to drive these four wheelers around this obol and

567
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:20,960
off the back of the four wheelers there is a

568
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,839
flag with a thing hanging down and you have to

569
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,559
it's basically capture the flag. You have to go and

570
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:28,680
grab the flag from your opponents the back of your

571
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,799
opponent's squad, and best two out of three wins.

572
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,839
Speaker 1: This so boring. I fast forward through half of it.

573
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

574
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,119
Speaker 3: I feel like it's one of those games that they

575
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,319
thought was going to be really fun. I feel like

576
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:49,240
it would be really fun to do, but I feel

577
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,119
like everybody who's standing there watching it and all of

578
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,599
us it's like, okay.

579
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: See I was so confused the press because when they

580
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640
first explained the rules, I thought they had to drive

581
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,880
at each other, like to have hall brawl style.

582
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,119
Speaker 3: On shousting style.

583
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, to grab the flags. I was like, well, this

584
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,359
seems dangerous, and then like.

585
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: That would have been more interesting to watch.

586
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,599
Speaker 2: It would have been until like, you know, someone's leg

587
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,160
gets ten between the machines and it's you know, decapitated

588
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:17,599
or something.

589
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:27,119
Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmmm, yeah, it just it was it was

590
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,359
not very fun to watch. They were just driving around

591
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,200
in circles on sand. The only two like entertaining things

592
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,400
that happened. Unfortunately, we're both Ryan and Yeah in the

593
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,119
first round. Uh well, so before before they get on

594
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:45,319
the quads, we find out that Ryan, because he lives

595
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:48,799
in New York City, drives like maybe maybe once a

596
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,279
month when he goes to his mother's house in New Jersey.

597
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,680
Uh so he hasn't he doesn't have a whole lot

598
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,400
of driving under his belt to you know, know, how

599
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,079
to corner and break and all that sort of thing quickly.

600
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:07,200
So in round one, Ryan looks ahead of himself on

601
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,239
the track to kind of figure out where Johnny is

602
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,400
and ends up kind of twisting his handlebars in the

603
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,679
opposite direction, run straight into the hailbit Heybales, tips his

604
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,199
four wheel a little bit, kind of falls off. Johnny's

605
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,800
able to catch up to him and pull the flag.

606
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,320
And then round two, which I have a question about this.

607
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,480
So round two, it starts off and Ryan pretty it

608
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:39,840
looks like, relatively quickly starts gaining on bananas and then

609
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,960
is literally inches from being able to grab that flag

610
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,880
and just kind of loses his balance on it. And

611
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,519
kind of, you know, it knocks him over a little bit,

612
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,199
so he loses all of that lead that he just got.

613
00:34:56,519 --> 00:35:00,000
Bananas pulls away. By the time Ryan gets going again

614
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,159
and Bananas is back on, is basically three quarters the

615
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,719
way around the track, and within two or three rounds

616
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,960
he's able to come up behind Ryan and pull his flag.

617
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:15,679
My question to you, guys, do you think Bananas purposely

618
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,599
slowed down at the beginning of the second round.

619
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,159
Speaker 2: I don't so I didn't notice this one watching, but

620
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:24,800
I did see today when I was looking at social

621
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,559
media news a lot of people are commenting, this seems

622
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,039
like the black four wheeler which Bananas was on the

623
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,119
second round, Ryan was on the first round, seemed to

624
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,320
be like having a lot more struggled with the sand

625
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,840
than the other one was. Oh so, I think if

626
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,679
anything it had to do with one of the four

627
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,559
wheelers was not as well equipped as the other.

628
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: Gotcha because it looked like in watching it today, it

629
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,760
kind of looked like, maybe not purposely purposely, but like

630
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,239
somewhat subconsciously, Johnny was going a little bit slower the

631
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,639
second round, which, if it was the four wheelers, that

632
00:35:58,679 --> 00:35:59,079
makes sense.

633
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,559
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.

634
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,199
Speaker 3: Ultimately, Brian ends up losing. Johnny Bananas wins uh, and

635
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,159
he is down there and he is he's psyched. He's

636
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400
so excited because he is gonna pick Tory to be

637
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,480
one of the targets for next week. He's so started.

638
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,400
And then we've got TJ comes out and says, all right,

639
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:31,000
you can choose anybody up there except except the winners

640
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,519
from this week, and Bananas.

641
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 1: Is past throws a big, old giant fit once again.

642
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,199
Speaker 3: Bananas. It's literally every single season you cannot pick the winners.

643
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,639
That's always how it's been.

644
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: So I will say, normally you cannot pick the winners

645
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,960
for that elimination of that episode that round. When's the

646
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,199
nurt season where if you win Elimination one, you're immune

647
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:03,199
from elimination, or like Daily Challenge one, you're immune from

648
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,519
the next episode's elimination. I feel like this is new.

649
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:10,639
Speaker 1: She could be she could come in dead last to go.

650
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying, like I do think that

651
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,880
because they're picking targets for next week, they it doesn't

652
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,159
work that she's out of elimination this week. This is

653
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:24,480
the way it has to work.

654
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: I guess, but I just don't think it's that crazy

655
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,519
that he was caught off guard because normally, if you

656
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,000
win the daily Challenge, you are safe for the next elimination.

657
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:36,840
It's not like, hey, normally are you safe for the

658
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,599
next elimination because you're the winner, But also you can't

659
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,119
be in danger that the following challenge as well.

660
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: We have definitely had this before this season. They there's

661
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,360
a season where they were standing on like individual they

662
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,760
were teams or pairs, they were standing on platform. I

663
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,840
can't remember which season it was. I don't remember if

664
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,440
it was the one where Zach and Amanda had to

665
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,880
or went down, But there have definitely been seasons where

666
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:06,199
you have the if you win, you were not eligible

667
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:09,679
for elimination next week. Like I honestly, I didn't think

668
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,599
that this was that big of a twist. I kind

669
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:16,480
of expected it because, yeah, you won the ability to

670
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:21,199
be the deciding factor for this week, but I mean

671
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,360
that immediately makes you the in all For most people,

672
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,760
that would immediately make you a target for next week.

673
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,920
So I think this is a good way to kind

674
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,679
of keep that game from happening and make them like

675
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239
think a little bit harder about it. I didn't have

676
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,679
to throw in so I didn't think this was that

677
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,559
big of a twist, and the fact that Banana's got

678
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,840
so butt hurt about it was just ridiculous.

679
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: In fact, he was mumbling about it on his way

680
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,880
out of the area.

681
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he was so mad. It's not out

682
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,880
of the norm, it was. It's not a completely you know,

683
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,679
it's just Banana's being Banana. Oh excuse me being Bananas.

684
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,519
Speaker 2: I don't remember this in the past season, so I'll

685
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:06,239
definitely look into this weekend so if I can find that.

686
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,039
When you're talking about Carlyn.

687
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not. I can't remember if it was

688
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,239
the winners or if it was just the winner of

689
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,920
that elimination was not eligible for the next week. There's

690
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,239
something with winners where they were not eligible for the

691
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,199
next week's elimination. And I will say that we've had

692
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,880
it like this before. I just didn't feel like this

693
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
was that out of the norm.

694
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: I will agree that we have had things where if

695
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,719
you win elimination, you cannot just go back into elimination

696
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,079
the following week. I don't believe we've ever had if

697
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,960
you win this daily challenge, you get you know, safety

698
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,880
for the next episode.

699
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe I am conflating the two. But it's

700
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,639
still like regardless. It just it doesn't seem that out

701
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:43,039
of the norm.

702
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,199
Speaker 1: Wasn't some of the seasons where they had grenades, couldn't

703
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:48,519
they not play the grenades on the winners of that week?

704
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

705
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: That might be what I'm thinking of.

706
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: It could be.

707
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, I think if I remember correctly,

708
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:56,920
that was part of it.

709
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,599
Speaker 3: So hus Bananas cannot pick Tory, which he is very

711
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:06,360
mad about, and even though he has placed blame on

712
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,840
Jordan as well, he cannot pick Jordan because Jordan is

713
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a man.

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that, no, I guess we didn't.

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Speaker 3: He Yeah, earlier when when they told him that he

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was getting thrown in, he turned to Jordan and said,

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you know you're not off the hook, dude. This is

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your choice just as.

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Speaker 1: Much as your choice as it deserves, is it, Johnny,

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Is it really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to which we've got a little talking head of

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Jordan saying, you know, I'm the left. Let him puff

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and puff. It'll be out of his system in a

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day or two. We'll be playing guitar and howling at

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the moon, no big deal, which I agree with. I

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think they will be absolutely fine. Because Johnny has that mo.

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Speaker 2: So I did check. So yes it's vendettas. And yes,

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if you want a grenade, you cannot use a grenade

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on a former Troy commember.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So the targets that Johnny picked are Naya,

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Devon's pet snake, Olivia and devn soon to be ex

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girlfriend Michelle. Michelle and Olivia took took umbrage with what

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he had to say there. They were not happy in

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the in the next week on it looks like these

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little comments that he just made are going to come

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back to start a little bit of a fire in

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the house. Yep, I agree, yep, And that's the that's

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the whole episode.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody at a challenge pod dot com. Join the

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Facebook group. You can also join our Patreon. Hey Brian,

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what do they get when they joined our Patreon? Well,

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for five dollars a month, you get pre shows, after shows,

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any extra ship we put on Patreon.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tim's also making up album of some sort that will

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be available for purchase, we believe on Patreon. If not

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send a message to all of our patrons, you.

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Speaker 3: Can see all of us as naked Nirvana babies. Yes,

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actually I think we technically have on clothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can also join the discord, which nobody talks in,

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so don't worry about it. And also we say your name,

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So thank you Elena, Alvin, Anna, Brian, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Laura, Martes, Maverick, Patty, Roldan, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott,

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Jack Shake our smile with Jack stand, Stephen and Stove.

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Thanks everybody, Thank you everyone. I have no idea if

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we have any reviews, so you'll have to wait.

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Speaker 2: Till next week.

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Speaker 3: Well you sent the one in the in our.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's some feedback from Spotify. Pull that

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up so over on Spotify. Nicole said about last week's episode,

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those reviews were hilarious and so wrong lol. I listened

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to you guys because I like the bickering and love

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the different opinions, especially Carlin's. Her opinions are always spot on.

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If I wanted to listen to people agreeing with one

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person who's always right quotation, then I would listen to

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Banana's podcast.

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Speaker 2: I do agree with Bananas is always right.

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Speaker 3: No, no, he is not yes, indeed, thank you very

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much for that review. That was very sweet of you.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about the fantasy leaks?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: And what might be Tim's last week playing?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Oh, I mean I did say won't be missed

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the last week, but I did say I would if

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Tim goes out, I would give him some of my

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players so he could stay.

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Speaker 3: In Jesus, he did say that, so well, I'll let

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Zach do his scores in just a minute. But Tim

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has lost another player. So Tim's team, yeah, just Tim's

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team is just Laurel. I mean, that's what happens when

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you let other people pick your team members for you.

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Pretty sure that Sally picked someone, Stove picked a few.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's easy to say this hindsight being

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twenty twenty, but I was looking at Tim's team today

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and I'm like, Okay, Like Laurel's good, but like, what

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was him thinking with the rest of these people, Like,

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I don't feel like.

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Speaker 3: Well he picked he picked Brad and Derek because he

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loves them. Well, yeah, Brad because he loves him, Leroy

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because he loves him. He had harass, you know, even

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though he hates Horasio Garassio.

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Speaker 2: I think we all well, I think we all thought

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he'd do better. But also Tim and I and Tim

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and I shared that, you know when we went to

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the Cleveland Tom's Mania that Rassio is very upset with

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It's I think we all kind of knew Rossio did

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not have a great season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know why he picked him. Maybe

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he was the last one that pick.

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Speaker 2: I think he is really late. Yeah, I think that

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actually happened Stove's pick. So may him been like Stove,

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did you miss us saying that like Harassio was very

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upset with his performance.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that might have been up. Yeah, I don't

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know what he was thinking with some of his picks

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see Kelly and Leroy, Amanda Horasio, Brad Avery, Casey, Derek

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and Ryan other than Laurel. Yeah, it's an interesting lineup.

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But yeah, I still have four players. Wolfe still has

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four players, and for and Zachi Banana's over here with

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what eight eight eight?

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Speaker 1: My players are looking better than ever.

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Speaker 2: You got the Banana man, So like.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Bananas, I got Tory, I got Kara, and then

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I got Naya.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I really do wonder if Nya is gonna

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make it through the next few episodes.

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Speaker 2: This might be I'm a spoiler alert, but I did

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fill out my fantasy picks for this week and the

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questions of who goes home next week? I chose Naya,

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So did you? I did.

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Speaker 3: She's She's pretty high on my list for the one

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to go home.

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Speaker 2: I think I did. I think I did her on

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one of them and Michelle on the other because I

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felt like both of them. I was like, I don't

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feel the best about.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, since the scores are dismal, why don't

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you go ahead and give us the scores on the

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host league?

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Speaker 2: Zactly? Alrighty, yeah, pull up the photo of it, so

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I know in last place with seventy five points, it's

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tim h. We have a two way tie for second

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place between Welfy and Carlin at ninety two.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I would say any any tie is a

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two way tie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got a three way.

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Speaker 3: Tie, it's true, but that would be for first, and

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you're so far ahead of us that it doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm at one seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: Six rigged all right, Well, onto the real fantasy league

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that everybody cares about.

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Speaker 2: The public league, the one of them losing in horribly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Public League is still CT phone Home with

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eighteen forty. I touched Johnny's Banana with eighteen thirty seven,

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and I'm closing it on the two of them with

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eighteen twenty. And then we've got Big Uncle Sweet Tea

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is in twenty first with fourteen twenty eight, U Zachie

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Bananas is at thirteen four and twenty eighth, and Wolfy.

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Speaker 1: Where are you twenty second? I'm right after tim Oh.

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Speaker 3: I totally missed that. Sorry. Wolfey is in twenty second

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at nine thirteen ninety nine. All right, and then the

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other one, the Weekly Budget League. It's again CT Phone

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Home with twelve twenty one eighteen. I touched Johnny's Banana

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with twenty one seventeen, and I am in third with

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twenty one oh eight. And then we've got zach is

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at eighth with eighteen oh eight, and Big Uncle Sweet

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Tea's at twelfth with thirteen ninety nine. I think Big

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Uncle Sweet Tea needs to stop slow playing this game.

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She has said it every week that he is slow

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playing the Public League. Got you gotta throw some heavy

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hitters in there, like immediately he's.

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Speaker 1: Leading two things ship Jack just left town. You won't listen,

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but that's a reference.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so that's where we're at on on the leagues, Zach.

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Speaker 2: Do we got any social media It's this a little

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social media week, but uh, we do have one thing.

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So Jordan was doing like a if it's an Instagram

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live or what he's streaming. He's streaming on some platform

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and someone asked him about Kyland, and Devin's said that

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Kyland is one of the most overrated challenge players he's

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ever seen. Josh was also with him and said Kyland's

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annoying his f So apparently there's some Kyland backlash going on. Sure, Josh, sure,

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but uh, that's only all thing I have. But yeah, surprise.

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I'm curious to see if something happens with the Kyland

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and Jordan. Of why Jordan and not joined, I mean Devin,

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who's already gone, But why Devin has such a dislike

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for Kyland?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? So anything else.

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Speaker 2: That's about it. They were in Amsterdam this past week

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film in the Reunion. I guess the only exciting thing

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there is. It was originally reported that Amanda would not

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be part of the reunion, but Banana's posted a video

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of her there, so she did show up.

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Speaker 3: Why she only showed up for the first episode.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But she's looking good. Tim's gonna love

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and we see that she's in like a full skimpy

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like devil costume, complete with horns and everything.

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Speaker 3: Are they going in costume to the to the.

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Speaker 2: No? No, all the other pictures and videos that alumni

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posted from the event, they're all dressed up. Bananas is

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in a student tie and yeah, she's in choosing the

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devil's costume. Maybe they just brought her out there to

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like sit there and like roast people and just be

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a jerk to them.

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Speaker 3: Oh, actually, I wouldn't be surprised by that devil costume

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at all.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense. All right, well, I guess for this episode

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of Challenged, this.

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Speaker 2: Has been Brian carl in San Diego, Zachy Bananas.

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Speaker 1: It is Johnny very smart, Eli said, buckle up, little

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Lady's

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Speaker 3: Got Charlie's Charie ch