WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:05.000 You're listening to Bigfoot Society podcasts hosted by our captain 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.640 Jeremiah Byron, where it's all Bigfoot, all the time. Have 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:14.039 you ever had the urge to do more, to be more? 4 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:18.320 Now you can by joining Bigfoot Society on the Patreon 5 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:22.519 get out free episodes and even number only episodes, take 6 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.359 part in movie Night and even live video chats, interact 7 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:29.920 behind the scenes with Jeremiah and other Patreon members like me, 8 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:34.759 play it the powerful podcast goes on, and you may 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:39.479 contribute a verse in our Patreon community car padm Seize 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.880 the day, Bigfooters and make your lives extraordinary. 11 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.240 Welcome to big for Society. 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But due to some things that came up 28 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:39.719 on my side, I was like, man, Dave, we got 29 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.840 to have you back on, and he's gonna go ahead 30 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.159 and pick things up right where we left it. He's 31 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.439 got some more things to share and then we'll have 32 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:51.079 a little bit of a chat after that. 33 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.400 Yep, sounds good. Thanks for having me back on. 34 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.280 Jerreed Monpez, thanks for coming back, Dave. 35 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.200 Or we finished up on the first episode, I buried 36 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.640 my dog and we talked about it was my first 37 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:09.639 visual encounter I had right after that, and that was 38 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.439 October twenty I was a bad day. It was my birthday. 39 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.319 It was October twentieth of this year, twenty four. It 40 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.479 was my birthday. We just got back from Colorado at 41 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.639 four o'clock in the morning. My dog wasn't there good. 42 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.479 She passed away at two in the afternoon, went and 43 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:28.800 buried her and had that visual about ten thirty a 44 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:34.400 night or so after burying her at the cabin. After that, 45 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.599 that was on the twentieth of October. It was the 46 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:42.919 following Saturday, Friday and Saturday. The following Friday and Saturday 47 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.479 we went back to where we have most of these encounters, 48 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.960 and we were hunting, me and my son and so Friday. 49 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.719 Which was the odd thing about Friday was we actually 50 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.360 had no encounters, no vocalizations, nothing. It was quiet. The 51 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.719 woods were quiet. It was the first time I had 52 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:04.400 been there in the woods hunting since May, and it 53 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.199 was Turkey season, the first time really walking around in 54 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:11.439 the woods up there since May. And one of the 55 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.800 places we hunt there was a big X structure back there, 56 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.759 and I noticed that the X structure was gone and 57 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:21.439 it was a big X structure. It was no saplings 58 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.199 or small trees, it was they were big trees. They 59 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.639 were probably fourteen i'd say around fourteen sixteen inches in diameter. 60 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.639 And I have pictures of this I can send you 61 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.680 too later on, Jeremiah. 62 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.479 Is this in Forbes in southwest Pennsylvania. 63 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:42.960 Yeah, Yeah, it's down yeah, down in Forbes State Forest 64 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.439 and there's like Ohio Powell and different game lands down 65 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.400 that way that we hunt, thank you, And so I 66 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.759 noticed the X structure was gone. And then that Friday 67 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.439 we hunted and we had no vocalizations, no nothing. I 68 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.560 didn't know if the X structure being gone meant something 69 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:01.719 or but it was the first time in a long 70 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.039 time that I didn't have Absolutely nothing happened up there. 71 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:08.520 And so the following day, Saturday, me and my son, 72 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:10.599 we hunted, just the two of us in the morning, 73 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.840 and what do we do? We archery hunted in the morning, 74 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.600 and then we pheasant hunted in the afternoon, and a 75 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.839 friend of mine and a friend of his friend and 76 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.079 my friend came up. And the one friend of mine 77 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.279 is the guy we bear hunt with. He had already 78 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.079 gotten a buck, so he wanted to come up in 79 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.079 its archery season for bear. We were all basically archery 80 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.680 hunting for bear, and so they came up and we 81 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:42.199 headed out and we went to two different spots. My 82 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.199 son and his friend went to where a lot of 83 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:50.759 our encounters happened, and me and my friend were, I 84 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.160 don't know, a mile and a half down on the 85 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.439 canyon or drainage. I guess you could call it. And 86 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:03.199 we were down there and I started getting dark, and 87 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.560 my buddy I dropped him off on the way in 88 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.079 into like little Finger drainage, and I went in further, 89 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.399 probably I don't know, a quarter mile past them, and 90 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:19.319 by dark, I started heading out and I heard the 91 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.920 fake Isle hoots and it was basically straight across from 92 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.480 where I dropped my buddy off. And so I'm walking 93 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.199 out and they, I don't know it hooted maybe a 94 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.600 dozen times or so. And I got up closer to 95 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.519 where he was on this gravel road and he was 96 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.360 coming down out of a tree stand and I called 97 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.120 him on the rate and asked him if he had 98 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.079 heard the Isle hoods and he's yeah. I was like, 99 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:45.879 those weren't is hoods you get? I mean, you just 100 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.879 tell the difference, and I knew they were rying. So 101 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.399 he came out to the road. We were walking back 102 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.120 to the truck, and so I texted my son, being 103 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.639 able there something going on, and they were, like I said, 104 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.920 about a mile and a half up the drainage, and 105 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.079 he texted me that they were on their way back 106 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.519 to the truck because his well, one of his buddy 107 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.480 had to go leave early he had a dinner he 108 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:16.160 had to go to for anniversary dinner. And my son 109 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.800 also texted me that about the half hour before sundown, 110 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:24.439 they were getting a lot of oulhoots near them where 111 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.720 they were, so he left a little early. And like 112 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.519 I said, me and my buddy were in his truck 113 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:32.519 about a mile and a half from where my truck 114 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.000 was parked, and my son and his buddy had his 115 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.959 own car, so they came out of the woods and 116 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.480 his buddy jumped in his car and took off, and 117 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.040 my son jumped into my truck and was just sitting 118 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.240 in my truck waiting for us. And at this point 119 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:51.319 it's dark, and so we're walking back to my buddy's 120 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:55.240 truck and we're just about back and I get a 121 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.360 message on my forward pass that my battery in my 122 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:05.720 truck is extremely low and it's going into power saver mode. 123 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.000 That's strange, And so he gets to my buddy's truck 124 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:10.800 and my son calls me. This is right after I 125 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.720 get that message, and my son calls me, I know 126 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.120 he shook up, and he said that he just had 127 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.279 one a sasquatch run right past like the passenger door 128 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:24.839 of the truck and in front of the truck and 129 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.600 across the road, and it was walking around in the woods. 130 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.879 He can hear it walking around the woods right outside 131 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.240 the driver's door, and I knew he was He was 132 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:39.319 pretty shook up and on a verge of tears. And 133 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.560 then he explained to me that once it went, he 134 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:45.279 heard the windows were cracked open. So we heard it 135 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:50.079 coming through the woods. He heard the footfalls, and he 136 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:51.920 heard it approaching the truck, and then he saw it 137 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.839 go in front of the truck, past the hood, across 138 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.680 the road, and he can hear it walk around in 139 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:00.720 the woods on the other side of it gravel road. 140 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.079 So he tried to start the truck and put the 141 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.240 windows up, and the truck wouldn't start. It was clicking 142 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.079 like a dead battery. So he couldn't put the windows 143 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:14.720 up and he couldn't start the truck. And so he 144 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.600 called me back and told me that the truck won't start, 145 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.959 the windows won't go up. Here's this thing walking around 146 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.519 in the woods right next to him. And so we 147 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.920 got up there as quick as we could, and between 148 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:31.800 the time that we got there, another vehicle coming out 149 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:35.600 from hunting had gone past. And once that vehicle went past, 150 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:40.159 we were maybe I don't know, thirty seconds behind that one. 151 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:42.200 And when we got back, he was sitting in the 152 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.960 truck and he didn't want to come out, but I 153 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.879 told him, fine, there's three of us here, and he 154 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.840 got out and we looked around and there was nothing 155 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.720 else happened. There was no vocalizations, no more walking around, 156 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:01.559 And I honestly, I think it was because my other 157 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:03.919 friend was there, and I think if it was just 158 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.399 me and my son some I don't know what would 159 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:10.840 have happened. But being my other buddy was there and 160 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.879 once we arrived there, that was it. And that was 161 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.720 really including the first episode, and that is pretty much 162 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.919 Old Man Encounters the Date. And I did forget a 163 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.279 few things in the first episode when I was given 164 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.559 my encounters one in Colorado, when I was talking about 165 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:35.759 the Colorado experiences I mentioned about before we had the 166 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.679 night owls and hawlers in the tent and the miller 167 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:42.080 of wilderness. While my son and his buddy was waiting 168 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.799 for me to get back to the truck that night 169 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:47.039 before that happened, he heard the Indian drums, and I 170 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.759 forgot to mention that the following morning I dropped them 171 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.559 off in the same spot because they had seen elk 172 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.240 in this dark timber and they were going in the 173 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.840 same spot. But I went about a mile down a 174 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:02.720 road further, and I wanted to get up into this basin, 175 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.080 so I was at least a mile down the road further. 176 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.320 This first thing in the morning just cracked and I 177 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.200 go up along this dark timber and there's like fields 178 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.440 up broken fields, and I was trying to get out 179 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:19.720 to this edge and look over the space, and I 180 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:21.720 was I had the I don't know, I was maybe 181 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.120 two three hundred yards or so. I could see the 182 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.000 edge or it rolls over into this space, and I 183 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.360 heard the Indian drum sounds coming from the dark timber 184 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.600 where they had heard it, and I mean, I never 185 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.639 heard it before, and they described it to me the 186 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.240 night before, and that's exactly what it sounded like. It 187 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:45.559 just sounded like Indian drums, like if you're watching a 188 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:51.919 Cowboys movie or it's just typical Indian drums and their cadence, 189 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:53.679 and there was no rhythm to it, and it was 190 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:58.679 just like Indian drums. And it went on for I 191 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.080 don't know, maybe a few minutes. And also at the 192 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.039 same time, down coming from in the basin, there was 193 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.840 coyotes howling at the same time, So I don't know 194 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.799 if there was any correlation that or not, but it 195 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:13.279 was going It was all both going on at the 196 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:15.759 same time. The Indian drums were coming from the dark 197 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:20.159 timber right behind me, and the coyote holes were coming 198 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.720 from down in the basin. But I don't think the 199 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:27.200 coyote holes were or anything but coyotes, But the Indian drums, 200 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:30.159 I don't know. I just I don't know the significance 201 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.799 of that. And all we're on the Colorado subject. I'll 202 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.960 go back because I didn't really say anything about last 203 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.360 year when I was in Colorado. My son and I 204 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:44.200 were both supposed to go last year archery hunting elk, 205 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.559 and it was the first time either one of us 206 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.039 were ever going to go hunting an elk and Colorado, 207 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:53.720 and so we had come up with a plan that 208 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.480 I was gonna hunt bear and he was gonna hunt 209 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.759 elk archery, and we were going in mid September and 210 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:04.120 I think of September fifteenth or so of last year 211 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:07.559 twenty three, and so we had everything old planned that 212 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.480 and unfortunately, like three or four days before we were 213 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:17.440 ready to leave. My son got an allergic reaction and 214 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.799 he had a rash to just travel around is it 215 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.240 was like I don't know if he got into poison 216 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:23.840 oak or poison ivy or what it was, but he 217 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.600 had allergic reaction. It was like traveling around his body 218 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.120 and it would just pop up in strange places like 219 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.279 his arms and his back and his legs, and it 220 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.799 was just everywhere. And I wasn't going away and we could. 221 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.080 We took them to five different doctors and got five 222 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:40.720 different opinions, and so I just couldn't take them to 223 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.799 the middle of nowhere in Colorado and have something happening 224 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.759 be three and a half hours away from the hospital. 225 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.240 Ended up going by myself last year and I spent 226 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.440 ten days there urchery hunting myself out in the middle 227 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.279 of nowhere. And so when I went there last year, 228 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.399 I was I had a bear tag fro hunting, and 229 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.799 my son had the elk tag, and naturally I was 230 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:10.840 there the first morning and I saw a bull, elk 231 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:15.519 and a kyle. So I go to town and the same 232 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.919 morning and get a elk tag so I can hunt 233 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:23.080 elk also and bear, and so I hunted for I 234 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.360 think it was like three days, and I had no 235 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:29.919 experiences until and I kept bumping elk. I kept it 236 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.840 was I kept I had elk almost every single day, 237 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.440 and they were close to my base camp where I 238 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.720 was set up, and it seemed like they would hop 239 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:42.240 over a ridge every other day and I just keep bumping. 240 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.360 Whether I was bumping them or that was their normal progression, 241 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.039 I don't know, but it seemed like I'd bump over 242 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.360 a ridge every couple of days. And so I ended 243 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.559 up on the third day a couple of ridges over 244 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:58.159 from where my camp was. And this was my first 245 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:02.159 experience there last year. And so I was hunting in 246 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:07.559 the evening and there was a drainage and it was 247 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.600 I don't know if there was a gas line there. 248 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:11.360 It was like cleared out and there was like a 249 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.039 right away going down over the hill into the drainage, 250 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.000 and so I was hunting that and I was over 251 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:18.960 the edge a little bit and it was getting dark 252 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.639 and I just started walking back out. It was just 253 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.440 past shooting light, and I got to the top of 254 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.360 the ridge and I never heard a loop before. And 255 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.480 from way down it's not like a half mile away, 256 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.799 it was faint and it was far away and I 257 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:40.159 heard a whoop and I never heard one before, and 258 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.720 I was like, did I hear what I just thought 259 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.879 I heard? And I sat there for a few minutes 260 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.279 and then I did it again. But it was only 261 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.120 maybe a couple hundred yards away at the bottom of 262 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.759 the drainage from where I was standing. So that kind 263 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:54.639 of freaked me out. 264 00:14:55.000 --> 00:15:15.320 Big for society, who would be right back After these messages, And. 265 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:19.399 The following morning, I go in to the same area, 266 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:21.440 not the exact same spot, but the same area as 267 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.320 more up on top of a ridge, and I got 268 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.759 there right at the crack of dawn, and I'm sitting 269 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.919 there and I wasn't there a half hour, and I'm 270 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.159 looking down over this bench and then it like rolls 271 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:39.519 into this draw and I'm sitting there and this crow 272 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:43.840 comes flying up the draw turns and comes right towards me, 273 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:49.840 and it flew up the draw, got right over my head, 274 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:54.679 did a three sixty over my head, flew off. And 275 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.159 then within a few minutes after that, a big tree 276 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:04.159 either fell or was pushed over, probably about eighty yards 277 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:07.639 from me. And it was a big tree, and it 278 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.000 wasn't I was hunting in a burn area, but there 279 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.639 was zero wind. There was nothing. There wasn't a breath 280 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.480 of wind. It was clear cool. I think it was 281 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:21.000 a frosty morning. And obviously I was in a burn area, 282 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.840 so there's a lot of dead trees. But I just 283 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.360 thought I just didn't get the feeling that it was 284 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:31.240 a coincidence. And after the tree got pushed over, I 285 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:36.840 can hear not necessarily footsteps, but I can hear boulders 286 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:40.480 like shifting, like something was walking around down in there 287 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.279 right where I heard the tree get pushed over. And 288 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:46.559 that went on for I don't know, maybe forty five 289 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:53.840 minutes or so, and then that was it, and there 290 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.279 was a couple so after that. Then I think a 291 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:00.480 few days later back at camp, I had had some 292 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.400 moops and haulers and owls fake owlho's back behind camp 293 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.599 a couple of times, but they were just vocalizations down 294 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.960 in the canyon. And that was it for last year. 295 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.240 And the only other thing. There's one important thing I 296 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:20.359 left out from the last episode too, so I mentioned 297 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.319 I had them encounters in the eighties. I believe it 298 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.200 was eighty seven. I had just three things happening in 299 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.640 eighty seven. Then there was a thirty three year gap 300 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:34.519 until Halloween night when my son and I had the 301 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:38.519 Halloween Knight encounter was the throwing rocks into the creek 302 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:42.279 court of Beaver was had backed up, and the bloody 303 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.920 murder screams and all that. And so two weeks prior 304 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.839 to that, I think we had our first encounter but 305 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.920 didn't know it. And that so it had been two 306 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.960 weeks before the Halloween twenty twenty thing happened to us, 307 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:02.119 and we were not in the same area. And I'll 308 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:07.039 just say this right up front that I've I've hunted 309 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.559 for forty years and I've heard owls for forty years, 310 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.799 and like I hunt the suburbs over here, I was 311 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.880 hunting this evening and there's owls that you know, they 312 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.039 start hooting it, you know, just before dark or just 313 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.480 after dark, and their OUs and you can tell the 314 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:27.839 difference between the fake isle hoots and the real ales, 315 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.759 you just can and the ones at home, like near 316 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:35.160 the suburbs there where I hunt their ows. And I've 317 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:36.799 been listening to the same ones that swart of God 318 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.680 for fifteen years and this one, this one valley that 319 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.440 we hunt, and I heard them night. I hear them 320 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:46.119 every single night that it's a nice weather nice clear sunset, 321 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.559 and they always sound off, but their owls, and they 322 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.720 stay in one spot. They don't fly all over the 323 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.839 woods and hoot all over the place and do haulers. 324 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:58.359 They stay in one spot. They start sounding off, and 325 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.440 a lot of times there's another one, whether it's made 326 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.279 or whatever. And one will sound off to the left 327 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:05.799 in the valley, and now they're will sound off to 328 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:08.759 the right. It'll get dark, and they'd never move. They 329 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:10.720 stay in their trees and they do what they're doing. 330 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.839 And the things that happen up the mountains with the 331 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:17.000 fake isle hoots and the hallowers, these things, they're not 332 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.640 standing still. They move around all over the place. And 333 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.160 the other thing I'll say is throughout the forty years 334 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.799 of me hunting, twice I've been buzzed by ales while 335 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:31.240 up in a tree stand where and both times, and 336 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.319 this happens pretty often whenever. If I'm in a tree 337 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.400 stand and I have deer right under me or real 338 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.400 close to me, I'll stay there until they leave. So 339 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.160 I might stay there whatever an hour and a half 340 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:46.799 after dark so it's pitch black, and wait for them 341 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.799 to move on. But SI don't spook them and give 342 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.759 up my position and they learn where I'm at. And 343 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.920 so twice I've had while staying in a tree late 344 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.079 after dark like that, I've been buzzed by aisles where 345 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:02.880 they were, and I think that they probably thought I 346 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:06.400 was a squirrel or something. And then they come in 347 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:09.000 from behind you and they're totally silent. There was absolutely 348 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.000 no noise whatsoever. So they glide in and you only 349 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.599 know they're on you until they're on you, and they 350 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.359 year off the last second where they saw my sleep, 351 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.519 my arm move or something. They thought I was some 352 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.200 kind of a squirrel or something in a tree. I 353 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.400 don't know, but I've been buzzed by ales twice and 354 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:32.440 those riles. And so this other encounter that I'm talking about, 355 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.440 it was two weeks before the Halloween go in and 356 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:37.839 it's about a mile everywhere we go. It seems like 357 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:40.279 it's a mile walk in, but it's about a mile 358 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.759 walk in and take his grassy path, and my son 359 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:46.480 had his tree stand with them, and it was only 360 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:49.920 at the time, I guess he was probably thirteen or fourteen. 361 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:54.640 He's eighteen now, so he's probably fourteen, and I think 362 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:56.200 it was only his third time going up in a 363 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.640 climber tree stamp. We get up in there. We're on 364 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.000 a soak ridge and I'm helping him. I want to 365 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.720 make sure he's tied off good safety and got a 366 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.519 safety harness on and put the tree stand together right 367 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:12.359 and everything. So I'm helping him put everything together. And 368 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:14.839 we're putting a tree stand together, and I see out 369 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.920 of corner of my eye there's a guy, a hunter, 370 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:21.559 all on camo and got a tree stand on his back, 371 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.279 and he's walking straight towards us, and he's coming right 372 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.000 towards us. I figured when he got to us would 373 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.519 say hi and how you going? And he was hitting 374 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:32.359 in the direction I was going to go. There's a 375 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.319 bench down over this office ridge, and the way the 376 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.480 trajector he was taking, he was going exactly where I 377 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:40.920 was going to go. So I wanted to just talk 378 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:43.000 to him and say, hey, where are you going so 379 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:44.920 I don't bump into you once I leave my son 380 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.759 here and Theeremiah. He came straight towards us, and he 381 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:54.319 was within ten fifteen yards of us, and I kept 382 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:56.839 looking at him to make eye contact, to say hi 383 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.000 and talk to him, and he never looked at us. 384 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.480 He just the first time in my life I was 385 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.079 anywhere near that close to somebody in the woods, and 386 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.440 it was like like he almost like he was a mannequin. 387 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:14.240 He walked past us and didn't acknowledge us, didn't look 388 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:18.400 at us, just right past, and that was really strange. 389 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.400 Who knows everybody's different. Maybe it's you know, like talking 390 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.240 to people in the woods. So he went past us 391 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:27.079 and then he went down over the hill exactly where 392 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.640 I was going to go after I left my son 393 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.480 once I got him up in the tree, and so 394 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:33.920 we get we get marked up in the tree, get 395 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.079 him all tied off and everything. I wasn't sure where 396 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.440 that guy went, so I and plus I didn't want 397 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:42.079 to go too far with my son image and like 398 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.039 I said, it's only third or fourth time, maybe up 399 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.000 on a climber tree stand and I just rolled down 400 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:49.799 over the hill a little bit. I was only maybe 401 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:53.000