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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even have time to take a shower. It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no smell in the in the camera, the smell vision. Smell,

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<v Speaker 2>no smell vision this time. Okay, so thanks Jay for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us here. You know, in our house where we

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<v Speaker 2>moved four years ago. We were in Mississippi, coming from

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. We put this festival together, all films against

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<v Speaker 2>the Machines. We just finished it last night and thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was great. And then we you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>you and that brought a lot of people, which was

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<v Speaker 2>really really cool. And I was so pleased yesterday to

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<v Speaker 2>see all these young guys coming and they were like really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they drove from far to come and see you,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was like very.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't forgot how to tap into the young ladies yet,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're trying to get that with Jamie, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I always have like a bunch of dues this show,

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<v Speaker 3>which is which is cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a lot of fun. In fact, we've

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<v Speaker 3>done a few film festivals. This was the most fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I was telling Jamie because the other ones, they're a

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<v Speaker 3>little more corny, they're a little more tongue in cheek,

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed that this had, you know, some serious films,

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<v Speaker 3>some serious ideas, and as your wife was saying, this

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<v Speaker 3>is art. It's not just comedy, it's not just satire.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean originally, so we showed this movie The Vampire

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<v Speaker 2>Project here a few years ago, and then that was

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<v Speaker 2>finally the premiere. We thought we could do just the premiere. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can try to make it bigger and instead of

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<v Speaker 2>just advertising one movie, let's advertise a way of making movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And the general or goal of the festival was to

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<v Speaker 2>have films with meanings. And what's important is that the

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<v Speaker 2>actors have something to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Little by little, the couple starts getting suspicious that he's

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<v Speaker 5>actually murdering people in the camper.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, but what's the angle? What's the angle?

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<v Speaker 7>What do you mean? What's the angle? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 7>a big dated.

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<v Speaker 6>It needs to be more inclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are a lot of convicts who are

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<v Speaker 3>transitioning into women while they're in prison.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, what does that have to do with my story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that transgenders are very trendy right now.

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<v Speaker 6>It would really help with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Festivals because nowadays, when you see all these movies you

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<v Speaker 2>can nearly see that they have absolutely nothing to say

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<v Speaker 2>besides I want more money.

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<v Speaker 7>What if the couple is a gay couple who moved

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<v Speaker 7>to the countryside, That could work.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a horror movie, not a Hallmark rom com.

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<v Speaker 2>We also had Mike Smith who made that documentary Out

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<v Speaker 2>of Shadows and I'm sure you've seen Out of Shadows,

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<v Speaker 2>but not the new one.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very important movie, and then we played it

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<v Speaker 2>to open the festival because it was kind of covering

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<v Speaker 2>all bases of everything we wanted to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing the festival.

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<v Speaker 3>We touched on psychological operations and Out of Shadows, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've gone deeper. These types of operations didn't just go away.

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<v Speaker 3>They continue to evolve in step with technology.

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<v Speaker 8>It's the most insidious type of warfare because it's designed

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<v Speaker 8>to change a person's entire perspective, short term or long term.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not to be reversed.

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<v Speaker 6>Cruising sho.

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<v Speaker 4>Most people like all care about what's fifty feet from

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<v Speaker 4>their door.

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<v Speaker 2>His festival was important to us is to bring people together,

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<v Speaker 2>and what was fascinating is that we had people actually

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<v Speaker 2>coming from all sides because we had a good selection

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<v Speaker 2>of short films as well, and there were some interesting movies,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could feel like the writers or directors were

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<v Speaker 2>more like from the the liberal side. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>able to have actually conversations with Mike Smith, who's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore Christian conservative, and I know I shouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>actually because it's not is way more open minded that

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<v Speaker 2>He is an amazing guy, so I don't want people

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<v Speaker 2>to pigeon hole him in that. But you talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the same stuff, So I hope maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we can organize like a lot of talk the first

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<v Speaker 2>time we do a podcast. As I was telling you earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a guy who's usually in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily enjoy it, but I love to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to talk about movies, and I love to

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<v Speaker 2>talk how important they are in the cultural aspect of things,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in America. And I feel saddened by the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it feels like the younger audience are like not

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<v Speaker 2>that much interested in movies anymore. They are more like

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<v Speaker 2>in too short form and stuff that's like two three

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and they can watch like little videos for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear you take on that, and what

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<v Speaker 2>could be a way to bring back this younger audience

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the not only to watch movies, but

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<v Speaker 2>to come see them in movie theater.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of the story where David Lanche always

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<v Speaker 3>tells it when he was on an airplane and he

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<v Speaker 3>saw somebody watching his movie on a phone, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>why the hell are you watching my movie on a phone?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like, it's not made for that. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make any sense. Right. It would be like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the louver, but I watched it on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been It doesn't make any sense. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually go there, you didn't actually do it. So one

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<v Speaker 3>problem is that the Internet is creating this idea of abstraction,

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<v Speaker 3>that everything is and can be done not in person

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<v Speaker 3>or not in reality, but through the screen. And even

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<v Speaker 3>though movies are a screen, it's still meant to be

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<v Speaker 3>done in an audience in a theatrical setting. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>whole purpose I think of film. It needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>long form. It's always been long form for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>except for like the earliest films, but that was just

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<v Speaker 3>due to limitations of the technology. But even some of

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<v Speaker 3>the earliest like long form projects. You know, we're very popular,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think.

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<v Speaker 4>That the reason for this is that people have had

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<v Speaker 4>their attention spans intentionally destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife did a podcast on one of the top

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<v Speaker 3>Silicon Valley programmer guys, Jaron Lanier, the dude with the dreads.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't look like a Silicon Valley guy, but he

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<v Speaker 3>wrote a book and ten years ago talking about how

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<v Speaker 3>the purpose of the infinite scroll is to just addict you,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's an a dopamine like trap. But they found

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<v Speaker 3>that the shorter form content was the means to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so when TikTok and things like the reels came out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's intentionally there to addict you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think they also knew that it would have

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<v Speaker 3>the effect of destroying the attention span, so that people

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't even read a book, much less set through a

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<v Speaker 3>two hour film. And now we're at the point where

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<v Speaker 3>people have to have the constant simulation. And it's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what Orwell said, where you destroy the language, you destroy

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<v Speaker 3>the attention span. Bert and Russell, many of these other

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<v Speaker 3>sort of technocratic minded people said the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's absolutely by design.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And also, like we are talking about that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that we went from a widescreen format

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<v Speaker 2>aspect ratio where it broadens your views of things, and

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<v Speaker 2>now everything is becoming to the point where people are

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<v Speaker 2>watching on tyle movies vertical movies to me, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so symbolic the fact that now things look so so

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<v Speaker 2>narrow and then everything is said there, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>what can you you You don't see beyond everything because

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<v Speaker 2>now you have the main guy or girl or else.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy, the girl in the third possession.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the others and in the center, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have room for anything else to see what's

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, what's behind and and and.

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<v Speaker 1>All the layers are gone. You have that thing and

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's extremely sad to see that they're really

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<v Speaker 2>pushing for people to get addicted to that format with

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<v Speaker 2>the new the new micro dramas they call them. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I heard about that that it's becoming a gigantic

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<v Speaker 2>market in China right now, you're talking about billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's extremely depressing and everything that can be done

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<v Speaker 2>to to I mean, I wouldn't say reverse that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's but to to try to to move away from

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<v Speaker 2>that trend.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really only like the art hew the

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<v Speaker 3>theater is like we have one in Nationale called the

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<v Speaker 3>Bellcourt and they will often play thirty five millimeter and

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<v Speaker 4>That they're supposed to be played.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw if they live there in that format, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's being lost with this almost omnipresent takeer this

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<v Speaker 4>I absolutely hate the smartphone.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what we can do to stop it,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you destroy the attention spans, then they're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to do it. It's actually I

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<v Speaker 3>think psychologically it's like brain damage to because you can't

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<v Speaker 3>focus even on I think I read something like attention

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<v Speaker 3>spans are down to like eight seconds in the younger people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I mean that's it's dystopian. I mean it's Orwellian explicitly.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what the healing of it is

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<v Speaker 3>other than too. I always tell people like basic principles.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you have the right idea. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>guys left the big city. You know, you came out

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<v Speaker 3>to the country. That's a good thing to do. Home

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<v Speaker 3>setting is what a lot of people are doing. This

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<v Speaker 3>is that's great, this is what you're doing. I recommend

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<v Speaker 3>people look into bitcoin, look into gold, alternative ways to

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Store value.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep trying to tell young guys, because we have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of young guys in our audience, to like

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<v Speaker 3>start to draw down your Internet time, get off of TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in those kinds of things, and cut your Internet

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<v Speaker 3>time down to maybe maximum an hour hour or two

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<v Speaker 3>hours a day. If you're going to use the internet,

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<v Speaker 3>only do it for productive purposes. Only try to do

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<v Speaker 3>like audio. So like when we do podcasts, because we're

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<v Speaker 3>when we listen to podcasts on the road, it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>always just audio format, and we try to avoid we

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<v Speaker 3>don't watch stuff on our phone like movies or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So I would try to encourage people to

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<v Speaker 3>continue to do that because everyone else is just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of stepping into the matrix.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, all the Silicon Valley people themselves don't let

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<v Speaker 3>their kids live on the internet, have iPads, They fast

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<v Speaker 3>from the Internet for like extended periods of time. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, you know, like you said, get into

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<v Speaker 3>alternative information. Don't listen to mainstream media. It's a largely

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<v Speaker 3>psychological operations propaganda anyway. Yeah, and you know, I believe

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<v Speaker 3>in finding a good church, or Orthodox church in my case,

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<v Speaker 3>so finding some good spiritual balance in your life as well.

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<v Speaker 3>All of those things can contribute, I think to healing.

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<v Speaker 2>So people are don't really feel the pain as long

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<v Speaker 3>I recommend people get back to reading books. Read the

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<v Speaker 3>classics of Western civilization and read philosophy. Read these kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of texts, get into good literature. Literature is something that

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<v Speaker 3>people think is like, oh, that's what chicks read or whatever. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>like Oprah's book list is not literature, right. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to read the classics. You need to be familiar with Shakespeare,

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<v Speaker 3>might inspire you to be adventurous, and he says, you

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<v Speaker 1>So books.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we want to also create this publishing company

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<v Speaker 2>to publish, like you know, public domain, very very important

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<v Speaker 2>books like I don't know, top of my head, like

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<v Speaker 2>even read the car March, because you know the notion

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<v Speaker 2>of communism. It's interesting that you know, everybody you know

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<v Speaker 2>in America communist is the enemy, but most.

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<v Speaker 1>People they don't even know what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about communism in France means something completely different,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you go to Russia it means something

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<v Speaker 2>And the only way to understand the soblety is which

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<v Speaker 2>not even subleties at this point, because some people see

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<v Speaker 2>It's important that people start reading to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I think I really like this French

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<v Speaker 2>educational thing with his publishing company. But in France, the

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we discover in the festival that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>see the movie anymore. I see why the movie was made,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, That's what I was saying earlier, like that

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<v Speaker 2>were playing a very interesting movie about art that was

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<v Speaker 2>made by a friend, and then it's about an artist,

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<v Speaker 2>and what the movie says is that the piece of

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<v Speaker 2>art is the reflection of who the author is. And

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<v Speaker 2>now for movies, it's not really true anymore because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the reflection of who financed the movie. Talking about Zionism,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, when I saw recently Rebel Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen that it's a film.

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<v Speaker 2>About Hollywood Jewish power controlling the narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a movie. Watch it because it's a case study. Almost.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so blatant in your face that that you know

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<v Speaker 2>then the the diversity to push. All the good people

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<v Speaker 3>They are the good guys, the rainbow coalition as who

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<v Speaker 3>overthrows And then you can see all this agenda and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know it's made by entirely that that power.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like fascinating, And then very few people actually

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<v Speaker 2>see that narrative. When they watch the movie, they see

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<v Speaker 2>go beyond beyond.

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<v Speaker 4>They say it's walk.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way it works, in my opinion, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the work aspect is everywhere, so people don't even pay

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wrote and as Ali with three, which is

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<v Speaker 3>about to come out a rot a whole section kind

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<v Speaker 3>of analyzing Black Mirror in depth, because Black Mirror moved

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<v Speaker 3>from being a very potent critique of technocracy in the

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<v Speaker 3>first couple of seasons to becoming more and more woke,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it turned into basically almost like a racial

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<v Speaker 3>sort of enact their fantasies upon their oppressors, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>one of the later episodes, which is just totally like

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<v Speaker 3>deviated away from you know, the original sort of what

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<v Speaker 3>was his name, Charlie Brooker's critiques of like Tony Blair

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<v Speaker 3>and uh David Cameron government that then turned into everything

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<v Speaker 3>being totally woke. So now the idea, I think is that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Schpengler talked about if you open the borders

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<v Speaker 3>and you let everyone come in, what happens is eventually

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<v Speaker 3>the people that come in take over, and that can

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<v Speaker 1>So it can be it is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think when he was writing he was kind

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<v Speaker 3>it could get, I think, but I mean his prediction

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<v Speaker 3>about the Client the West was pretty accurate in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of how it would happen. And what's funny is that

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<v Speaker 3>that text, which is a kind of a formative historical

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<v Speaker 3>geopolitical text, people like Kissinger wrote dissertations on that book

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of became a game plan because early on

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<v Speaker 3>at Tavistok they studied decline of the West as a

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<v Speaker 3>way to actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Decline the West.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't written as a manual, but then they figured

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<v Speaker 3>out actually what he's talking about could be a means,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you get people like Kundenhof Kolergi. In his

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<v Speaker 3>book Practical Idealism, he says basically the same pattern of

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<v Speaker 3>how massive open borders could could totally change the entire

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<v Speaker 3>demographic of all of the West. So that's a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, and the films have to promote that.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, in America, we've had so many films promoting

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that all of the immigrants are sort of heroic,

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<v Speaker 3>noble savior people.

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<v Speaker 4>And then everybody who.

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<v Speaker 3>Wants to have like a wall or a border or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that the oppress of Nazi, fascist, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just crazy because I mean, China has a

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<v Speaker 3>giant wall around it, like they built a wall. Does

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<v Speaker 3>that make them fascist? I mean, it's just it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make any sense. Everything's divorced from its actual historical.

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<v Speaker 4>Context and meaning. But that's postmodern, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I Mean, I was having a conversation the other day

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<v Speaker 3>pointing out that the meme magic is actually in the

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<v Speaker 3>same applies to cinema as iconography, like you can now

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<v Speaker 3>through the postmodern deconstructionist attitude, like you can give it

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<v Speaker 3>its own meaning. Meaning isn't something that you're studying and getting.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just importing your own meaning into it. And that

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<v Speaker 3>means that they can retool the archetypes to socially engineer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm reading Changing Image as a Man right now, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole chapter on retooling archetypes for the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like cultural Marxist studies in retooling the culture

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<v Speaker 3>to make everybody complacent, masculated, you know, all the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that the left wants is actually a social engineering weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean it's just like it's crazy to see

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<v Speaker 3>textbooks actually kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Describe the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so it's not just us theorizing about it, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>there's an actual textbook that tells.

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<v Speaker 1>To go back to the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that year when they gave the Oscar for

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<v Speaker 2>Best Picture to Parasite, and it's like it shows the

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<v Speaker 2>total nonsense of Hollywood because it's a Korean movie that

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<v Speaker 2>has absolutely nothing to do as the best picture in

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<v Speaker 2>an American competition.

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<v Speaker 1>My theory on.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that I believe that there are most likely

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<v Speaker 2>deals and the oscars and affection there are deals from

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<v Speaker 2>countries to countries like Korea.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe has helped America.

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<v Speaker 2>America says okay, we're gonna yeah, let's give an oscar.

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<v Speaker 4>It becomes propaganda for preser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And it helps, you know, because at this point and

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<v Speaker 2>we're very close to all the film markets. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to understand because it's also part of why film films

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<v Speaker 2>get made or not. And it's interesting to see like

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<v Speaker 2>it gave a huge boost to Korean movies because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that was great for the whole Korean industry. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and people don't understand that the Oscars, they are not

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<v Speaker 2>giving the oscar to the best act it's for the

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<v Speaker 2>They're awarding people who are the best soldiers for the

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<v Speaker 2>established system. The systems right, They're there to promote this

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<v Speaker 2>and that, and actors, some of them they really believed

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<v Speaker 2>that they were the best actors.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's always what was it last year?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't really care for musicals, but I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I could recognize that the trans musical was was

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I heard some of the singing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was preposterous.

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<v Speaker 3>But they gave the word to that over Wizard of Oz,

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<v Speaker 3>which had you know, like actual singers, and which is

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<v Speaker 3>again it's only done right for like the oppression Olympics

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<v Speaker 3>to give awards, right, who's the most oppressed.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's all by design.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean all of these awards, all of these things,

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<v Speaker 3>including Nobel, I mean all that stuff is really given

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<v Speaker 3>to Remember they gave the Nobel to Obama and what

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<v Speaker 3>he was like he was doing like drone attacks, and

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<v Speaker 4>The Peace Prize.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's all that's all propaganda. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know or about about the whole relationship between you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Korean film market. I remember when Parasite one and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Because why would this movie, Yeah, it's a decent movie,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. It was a pretty good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That yeah, I don't think it was as good as

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<v Speaker 2>they was saying. But but why would they suddenly out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere give Best Picture to a film that's from Korea?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a kind of globalism already, right, I mean, like, but.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a selection for so why you know?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, like they did the same with the artist,

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<v Speaker 2>I think not did he want the artists. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it did same thing, so there's probably like some deals

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<v Speaker 2>with I mean, that's what I suspect to be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen this movie called American Maid with some cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the year it was released. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of the best themes of the year. That's

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<v Speaker 2>great and it was completely on the radar. That movie

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<v Speaker 2>was not that should have been nominated for an oscar

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, based on real real you know, espionage US.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's completely crazy, very when you know that actually happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's probably not exactly like that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a general concept that happens, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been a huge success and people should be learning from

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<v Speaker 2>that movie, so we don't do the same ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet yeah, we are.

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<v Speaker 4>To under the radar area. I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we did a podcast at the time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>actually had the guy that wrote a couple of books

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<v Speaker 3>on very Seal. When that movie came out, he mailed

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<v Speaker 3>me his books on very Seal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really enjoyed the film.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was a lot of fun. I like

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Sorbo, never met him, so it was nice to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to him. Yeah, I enjoyed your approach.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's satire, it's meta, it's it's playing with you know, reality,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's almost surrealist in a way. I enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 3>influences that you have have some you know, your influences

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of directors that I really enjoy. So

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie and I talked about we're going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast on your movie and other films like it, so

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of group it together thematically. When we do

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<v Speaker 3>podcasts on film, we usually put them in a thematic framework,

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll have that in there and you know, have

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<v Speaker 3>you guys on.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to come on and do an interview

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<v Speaker 4>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed the film. I want to promote it. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>The way Kevin Sorbo that had that great line, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how will they know what's real?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they don't know what reality is. How are

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<v Speaker 4>they going to know? So the film is playing with reality,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we don't know what reality is, especially through this

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream media matrix, and people are given a false reality,

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<v Speaker 3>so they don't know what reality is. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 3>character in the film is basically saying we can give

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<v Speaker 3>people a fake reality.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so in the story, the writer named Chris, I

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<v Speaker 5>thought some of the characters could have real life names

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<v Speaker 5>like us to keep it a bit more authentic and

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<v Speaker 5>grounded in reality. We could even say at the beginning

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<v Speaker 5>of the film that this movie is based on real events?

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<v Speaker 6>But is it?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it? What?

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<v Speaker 6>Based on reality?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Yeah, I mean kind of.

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<v Speaker 8>But how will the audience know it's based on reality

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<v Speaker 8>if they don't know what reality you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because the reality of the story is based on

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<v Speaker 5>our reality, which then becomes the reality of the movie. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>you've got me a fitm.

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<v Speaker 6>It's my fault. I'm sorry. Please please continue.

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<v Speaker 2>And we didn't even have time to touch up about

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<v Speaker 2>the topic of AI. But it's two or two as

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do that next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was going to say on the topic of AI,

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<v Speaker 3>I did read you know to and lecture through a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of Jacques Attalie books, who's you know, the Kissinger

485
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<v Speaker 3>of France. He's a total globalist, but his books are

486
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<v Speaker 3>really interesting because they admit so much. I tell you

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<v Speaker 3>everything you need to know everything, right, So in Brief

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<v Speaker 3>History of the Future, he actually says, we will create

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<v Speaker 3>the global brain. Everybody will be sort of integrated with AI.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be a giant hes A column. Yeah, he says,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a column. So he's telling you quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have a line about that even in Vampire Project,

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<v Speaker 2>when at some point he said, if you listen carefully,

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<v Speaker 2>people tell you everything you need to know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just messing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is not alive.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just my wife and I live here.

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<v Speaker 7>See, if you listen carefully, sometimes people will tell you

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<v Speaker 7>everything you want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like and we have so many lines.

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<v Speaker 2>One was recorded here actually, when when he brings the

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<v Speaker 2>dress and he says.

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<v Speaker 5>When you think about it, how else could this have happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody snuck in and hit it in our bed?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you telling me it happened that way because it

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<v Speaker 2>happened that way, or because he told you it happen

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<v Speaker 2>that way, because you can explain why just about anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And there's a lot of lines in the

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<v Speaker 2>movie that talk about like a lot of different things

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<v Speaker 2>that should resonate. And I think we're still going to

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<v Speaker 2>add on the movie that it's happened in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty twenty one to because there are lines that

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<v Speaker 2>resonated much better about the whole natural causes when people die,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the recapitation and say, yeah, it was said

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<v Speaker 2>it was natural causes.

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<v Speaker 6>She was found dead on despair.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's pretty typical, right, Old folks die in their

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<v Speaker 5>sleep all the time. It's actually not a bad way

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<v Speaker 5>to go. You go to sleep alive, you wake up

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<v Speaker 5>to bed.

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<v Speaker 9>Take The only difference is they never have found her

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<v Speaker 9>head when she died. Oh my bad, that he's dead.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you mean they never found her head.

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<v Speaker 6>She was found dead on this bed.

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<v Speaker 9>At least found the body, but no one had She

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<v Speaker 9>had no family, so no one knew she had died.

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<v Speaker 7>That qualifies as murder, then, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, people naturally die in their sleep all the time,

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<v Speaker 5>but nobody gets natural decapitated in their sleep.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I know that no one she was performed because

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<v Speaker 6>she had no family, and the.

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<v Speaker 9>Death certificate it says that she just died of natural causes.

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<v Speaker 6>Officially, it's not a manda. Natural causes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the time, the world's natural causes. At the

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<v Speaker 2>time of COVID, they had a you know, the different

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<v Speaker 2>meaning and the movie a few years later we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lose that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think people can still like I still got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very timely and I really enjoyed it and it

542
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<v Speaker 3>was great to be here, and yeah, we should talk

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<v Speaker 3>about more of the more of what Jacquetta Lee talks

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<v Speaker 3>about his text and all that. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a French Canadian watcher viewer of my stuff that actually said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is maybe five or six years old, said you

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<v Speaker 3>should read Brief History of the Future because Alto wrote

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<v Speaker 3>this in two thousand and six and it basically predicts

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<v Speaker 3>everything in terms of where we are now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you read The Great Reset by clouds Now the

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<v Speaker 2>French guy actually and if you read that, they tell

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<v Speaker 2>you everything in exactly and then that's time to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly. That's why we're here. Absolutely, Thank you so great,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much day.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it, and it's and let's continue that next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Done.

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<v Speaker 6>So what's next?

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<v Speaker 7>We go get some money and make a movie. I

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<v Speaker 7>wish it would let you be.

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<v Speaker 6>It could be best friend's calling. Ali has good timing.

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<v Speaker 7>How's everything going in Mississippi? The Happy you moved out?

564
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<v Speaker 7>Of La couldn't be happier.

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<v Speaker 6>I received a call yesterday from this gentleman.

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<v Speaker 7>He used to live in LA but recently.

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<v Speaker 6>Then not too far from you.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe he wants to finance a horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>This is where they shot the film The Vampire Project.

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<v Speaker 7>The plot thickens.

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<v Speaker 6>You must speak this.

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<v Speaker 9>I am recently, but some properties in the area, they

573
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<v Speaker 9>would be a perfect place to shoot a.

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<v Speaker 6>Help or to film it.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh like what they did here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's more complicated place. Looks like they need an extracism

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00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 6>like for these houses. These two properties were scenes of

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<v Speaker 6>violent murders.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying anything about a murder that happened in

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<v Speaker 5>that house, Philip, this guy is just full of shit most.

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<v Speaker 9>Likely, but is our best bet at getting some money

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<v Speaker 9>short term.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, why don't you put in your wife?

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<v Speaker 7>How does he know that I'm married? Where is he

585
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 7>taking us? Is this a castle?

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<v Speaker 6>Such a pleasure to me?

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<v Speaker 7>Janey, did you say somebody was killed in us? Why

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<v Speaker 7>don't we write a script based on some of the stories?

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<v Speaker 6>He told me, thinking motivate vampire moment.

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<v Speaker 7>He wore a mask during the day, he takes it

591
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<v Speaker 7>off at night. He's told me about a million times,

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<v Speaker 7>how much he likes vampires.

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<v Speaker 6>Do not tell me you actually believe he's a vampire.

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<v Speaker 7>Doesn't it seem a little strange? What's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 7>How's the pitch?

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<v Speaker 6>You'll see it's a vampire story, right.

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00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 7>I had a different idea to go in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 7>It's based in reality.

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<v Speaker 8>How can the audience know it's based on reality if

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<v Speaker 8>they don't know what reality you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 9>Please make vampire have no idea where this is going?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that?

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<v Speaker 6>How does it end?

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<v Speaker 7>Not one under sure yet?

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds complicated.
