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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's
Speaker 2: Jacob Zawas got our guy Henry in today. Welcome to Wednesday.
Speaker 2: That's something to ask you, Jay and I. That's the
Speaker 2: hecky way to start the show. But it's true. I
Speaker 2: don't remember what that. He goes in my mom it'll
Speaker 2: come to me and come to me. Welcome to Wednesday show.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things is it's a pretty
Speaker 2: good show. I think today you're gonna be gone Tomorrow
Speaker 2: and Friday. Are you getting ready to head to California?
Speaker 2: But today's a good show. It's gonna be a fun show.
Speaker 2: First half, the first hour is gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 2: We have Joe Turner. We're gonna joke about some of
Speaker 2: the jokes that he said many years ago. Uh, without
Speaker 2: knowing that he's joking right, without knowing he's one of
Speaker 2: those yogi berra guys, it says crazy stuff and then
Speaker 2: he looks, I guess that was funny. You know, it
Speaker 2: was funny. So we'll talk to him and then somebody guys,
Speaker 2: some one of the guys that we tried to get
Speaker 2: a while back because of the Olympics. Uh, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad we didn't because his sport is no longer or
Speaker 2: didn't didn't play in Paris, Uh, Mike Candrea. Just to
Speaker 2: see what he's up to and get his thoughts on
Speaker 2: it probably coming back, I think, isn't softball coming back?
Speaker 3: It is, but they're gonna play it in a Olahoma City.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk to him about that too, because you
Speaker 2: know he used to get mail in Oklahoma City because
Speaker 2: he was there so often. What do you have to explain?
Speaker 2: The joke is not that good? Jay? Okay, so you
Speaker 2: got it. So we'll have him in the second hour
Speaker 2: talking about the Olympics and see what he's up to,
Speaker 2: because I know he's a busy guy. He's still I
Speaker 2: think he's still on the staff with the Desiree. At
Speaker 2: least he's listed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he's still. Listen, he's still
Speaker 3: doing stuffs up all right. He was over wasn't he wasn't.
Speaker 2: He I don't know, a consultant or something.
Speaker 3: A consultant or something for the World Championships or something.
Speaker 2: For I know he had been helping Team Italy. But
Speaker 2: that's it, that's what it's well back, Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: might have kind of see the kind of role that
Speaker 2: he's with desiree because as you know, it's changes changes,
Speaker 2: and we'll see what he's up to. Yeah, and maybe
Speaker 2: what he learned and what we were talking about. Oh,
Speaker 2: I know, what are we talking about yesterday? Those titles?
Speaker 2: If he's still kind of in the insights? Is what's
Speaker 2: up with all the titles the GM and the handholder
Speaker 2: of the handholder? Yeah, what the hell give me that job.
Speaker 2: I'll do that. I'll do that job.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I know it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you need coffee? I'll go get coffee.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I feel like somebody's getting paid
Speaker 3: seventy grand to mess around with spreadsheet through something you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3: The database of recruits going or something.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him about all that going on.
Speaker 2: I knew I needed to ask you something today. Was
Speaker 2: something that happened yesterday I'm.
Speaker 3: Brain dick, because you've been getting my daughter packed and
Speaker 3: ready to go, filled up a U haul with with
Speaker 3: stuff and heading out to San Diego first thing tomorrow morning,
Speaker 3: and then getting my my kid moved out and we
Speaker 3: become empty nesters again. So we'll see, uh, we'll see.
Speaker 2: How much fun we're gonna find out again if your
Speaker 2: wife really loves you.
Speaker 3: She does, she just I mean even even yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Does, because once kids are gone, you might have to
Speaker 2: find something to talk about.
Speaker 3: We might have to talk to each other. I have
Speaker 3: to make some dinner.
Speaker 2: Well, that's probably why she likes you. You're gonna make
Speaker 2: a great wife one day. Okay, Henry, how are you doing? Schools?
Speaker 2: Getting closer? You ready? Pretty ready? Yeah? Okay, this is
Speaker 2: school for you. Bet no matter how well you do
Speaker 2: in school, this is going to get you to job.
Speaker 3: And he's going, what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 3: To talk about life? Talk about life exactly, exactly. Now, Look,
Speaker 3: you know, every day we're a day closer to football.
Speaker 3: Now there's actually some football this Saturday, so so that's
Speaker 3: you know, that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting, right, it's uh, but only four games, all right,
Speaker 2: it's four games? Four four or five. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: NFL starts in two.
Speaker 3: Weeks, two weeks, two weeks, right, because they it's all
Speaker 3: college next weekend. Yeah, and then the NFL get kicks
Speaker 3: into gear. Yeah, so we have football all the way
Speaker 3: into February.
Speaker 2: So that's and that's good. We'll have a lot of
Speaker 2: changes with our program, right, we're moving. We're moving to
Speaker 2: a different site. Maybe we'll get the phones working better
Speaker 2: and our equipment will be been. It's September.
Speaker 3: I think that the September ninth or something, Monday date
Speaker 3: it's been set as to when going live.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, September nine. Yeah. Yeah, did you see
Speaker 2: I gotta I got a note that's it wasn't nasty
Speaker 2: in tone, but very accurate in tone. I need to
Speaker 2: start getting my crap together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They pretty much said, you need to get you need
Speaker 3: to get get on the train and learn this stuff.
Speaker 2: So don't make me. I'm sixty years.
Speaker 3: Old, dog Nutrix, old, dog Nutrix.
Speaker 2: I have to have Henry be my apprentice and have to.
Speaker 3: Pay Oh no, no, no, exactly.
Speaker 2: I have to remember passwords. What okay, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: do some documents for Henry now, and then I screwed
Speaker 2: up so I have.
Speaker 3: To redo it, Henry. Sorry, sorry, Henry. You know I
Speaker 3: can do that stuff, Henry. He's technically capable of all that.
Speaker 2: And you had all our media, our media and social
Speaker 2: shame on you today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny for about what fifteen minutes. Mike
Speaker 3: Andre was Tata Stubbs right right.
Speaker 2: Someone sent me a note said did you see what
Speaker 2: you put up? And I said, I don't put up
Speaker 2: anything social that. He sent me a photo. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: not subs you had and I had Joe Turner as
Speaker 2: uh as who is a Philip Philip Stewart. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking at least.
Speaker 3: Those guys are both African American. All right, somebody could
Speaker 3: look at that and not you know, and go, okay, two.
Speaker 2: Different pictures because Joe's smiling like.
Speaker 3: Just my and and we mentioned phil Stewart just looks
Speaker 3: mean but it's mean and mad. Oh he didn't sound
Speaker 3: like that at all. Yeah, no, No, he was a
Speaker 3: great He was a lot of fun. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I you know that that's we'll see that, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I took a break from loading a
Speaker 3: U haul to do that stuff, and so it just
Speaker 3: kind of got away from me.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you. Yeah, I know. Someone said, I said,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's not like you haven't done that before.
Speaker 3: I've done that. Yeah, I've done that when things been called.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna so I'm not gonna criticize because
Speaker 2: I don't do it at all. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't complain about the food of finding cooking.
Speaker 3: It exactly well, I do, but you cook well cook No,
Speaker 3: not at home.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: But if I go to a restaurant, Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: paying for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's different. Okay, yeah, no, no, no, if you
Speaker 2: could give me something said, this doesn't taste so good,
Speaker 2: I don't cook at all, you know. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: even worry about your henry yet. You know. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2: So I'm good. I'm just gonna make sure I save
Speaker 2: it right. Okay.
Speaker 3: So today we're gonna find out how how strong the
Speaker 3: Kiss of Death continues to be. I've had Max Munsey
Speaker 3: Dodgers Third Basement on on my roster, but he's been
Speaker 3: on the IL for like three months, and so he
Speaker 3: came off the I L on Monday.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 3: I hadn't activated him. He had a homer on Monday.
Speaker 3: He had another. He had another one on Tuesday, so
Speaker 3: he's come off off of the al and hit homers
Speaker 3: and back to back games. He's active on my roster today.
Speaker 3: So if he strikes out like four times or something
Speaker 3: like that, we know the Kod is alive. And well,
Speaker 3: as we head into football.
Speaker 2: Guess what this is the time I start to show up.
Speaker 2: I think it sleeps for a while and then it,
Speaker 2: you know, grows. It's like that. What's that? What was
Speaker 2: that movie? The bat or the thing that came in
Speaker 2: got He's stop for thirty years and he woke up
Speaker 2: and he came and got the people, uh or something? No, No,
Speaker 2: it was one of a flying kind of like a
Speaker 2: thing with.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that it's just like a barren hibernation.
Speaker 3: It pokes, it's set out after a while. That's even
Speaker 3: a better. Okay, we're just gonna start eating people.
Speaker 2: Right right? Okay, Well, I have no doubt that your
Speaker 2: Kod will come back. I don't know, man, you know,
Speaker 2: seek and we have to we have to get ready
Speaker 2: for the football US.
Speaker 3: We won't announce it today because let's we still got
Speaker 3: some things in finance. But we may have a big
Speaker 3: announcement on Monday when I get back.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Monday. Well, a lot of life changes next month,
Speaker 2: right or which will be great? Yeah, uh, which, and
Speaker 2: maybe we can see people. We're gonna have a better
Speaker 2: studio and we'll have people probably come in business for sure.
Speaker 3: We'll actually want to bring people towards.
Speaker 2: We'll have guests. Yeah, right, and it's gonna be on
Speaker 2: Swan and Sunrise rights of Sunrise. So you know, are
Speaker 2: we just like going to night two one oh compared
Speaker 2: to you here?
Speaker 3: They have to finish that McDonald's up there really fast.
Speaker 2: No, your doctor, your doctors might not like my doctor
Speaker 2: doesn't know he does, well he will you come up
Speaker 2: with those numbers of clubs.
Speaker 3: See, there's too McDonald's on my way here. I can
Speaker 3: stop anytime I want. Well, then you don't just want
Speaker 3: to want and four load. Then there's another one kambling
Speaker 3: for loan. I can go to those anytime I want to.
Speaker 3: Then there's a dairy queen. There's kinds of I don't
Speaker 3: know how you're still alive.
Speaker 2: Meds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, man.
Speaker 2: I say, I tay a lot two people and not
Speaker 2: too much information here. But we can have Bernie's. You
Speaker 2: know the twodes that kept my meds are the things
Speaker 2: that keep me up. Those are my weekend at Bernie guys. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: who want to say the true to stoves we have?
Speaker 2: We have soccer, we have volleyball, what else? Uh, the Pima.
Speaker 2: We've talked to h hockey. Yeah, so we'll talk to
Speaker 2: COS groups. So in fact, I have COS group coming
Speaker 2: on next week before they have the first game. All right,
Speaker 2: so you'll be back for that. Yeah, you're not going
Speaker 2: to be in. I have Troy Hutchinson as a guest
Speaker 2: tomorrow as a guest or guest guest host. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and we have a pretty good first guest at least
Speaker 2: before you know, you know, Ortis Jenkins will be coming on. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He he knows him and he likes him, and he
Speaker 2: said yes, all right, so I don't know. That's the
Speaker 2: only guy I know right now. Okay, cool, So that'll
Speaker 2: be cool. Back in the day, you're ninety eights and
Speaker 2: the talk about all those great years. Yeah, and we've
Speaker 2: had him.
Speaker 3: We had him on that one time and we you know,
Speaker 3: we talked about you know, the the leap by the
Speaker 3: lake and that that team all year long and.
Speaker 2: Right and all that kind of stuff. Solways good to
Speaker 2: find out what he's good doing, because he was one
Speaker 2: of the only guys. I think you you covered the
Speaker 2: other guy, Craig Bergman. Yeah, we played both sports, right,
Speaker 2: he played football and basketball. And then he was the
Speaker 2: other one who was.
Speaker 3: Get a similar role on the on the eighty eight
Speaker 3: team that that that that whot Artis had. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: just sort of a guy on the bench. You know,
Speaker 3: he's a good place, he's a good practice player, had
Speaker 3: some skills.
Speaker 2: He didn't make it to the end though. He took
Speaker 2: the team picture. Yeah, but he didn't. He didn't go
Speaker 2: all the way. He didn't know, just a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah at the final four, right right, yeah, right right?
Speaker 2: And teach and uh Kelvin Kevin was another one of
Speaker 2: those guys who played hoops.
Speaker 3: And Kevin was Calvin was playing hoops and then he
Speaker 3: went to football and then he just became.
Speaker 2: Football, which was a pretty good move for him. Good
Speaker 2: move for him. Did he did he ever?
Speaker 3: Did he ever get into the league. I know he
Speaker 3: got drafted by the Raiders or he signed with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: He didn't play, No, I don't think so. He was
Speaker 3: a tryout guy. He stayed there a while and you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: last and for whatever long? Yeah, okay, what else? We
Speaker 3: got about three minutes left.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: If you guys want to call us, call us after
Speaker 2: Joe Turner. Uh the Ludolfson campus starting tomorrow. Uh and
Speaker 2: then uh Canrea, So call call us after Candre as well, Henry.
Speaker 2: I'll have breaking news at the top of the hour.
Speaker 2: U as usual as usual. Ye, as usual. So there
Speaker 2: was something I'm not sure I wanted to get political
Speaker 2: with Steve Kerr.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about that, you know, I got you know,
Speaker 3: during the show, you know, I that day that he
Speaker 3: was going to talk. Somebody said, hey, Steve is going
Speaker 3: to talk at the at the Democrat Natal. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, but I you know, look, the guy's a
Speaker 3: smart guy.
Speaker 2: I've said this. I even said this some more quicker
Speaker 2: thing still, and I can say this with hesitation. He's
Speaker 2: the smartest guy I've ever met. Yeah, just on a
Speaker 2: variety of subjects, right, and I.
Speaker 3: Well, being smart, incredibly level had it.
Speaker 2: And that's part of it. Yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 2: That's part of it. You know, if you like him
Speaker 2: for politics, don't let for products. I get it, But
Speaker 2: he knows about politics.
Speaker 3: He knows uh you look, you know, I mean he's
Speaker 3: he's a he's a well schooled, well traveled guy. You know,
Speaker 3: he grew up in in uh Lebanon.
Speaker 2: I think that's where that's where he was born, theorn there.
Speaker 3: And you know, and he grew up and you know,
Speaker 3: his dad was you know, the president and educated or overseas.
Speaker 3: His mom, you know, same educator as well, or his
Speaker 3: grandparents were too. So you know, so a guy who yeah,
Speaker 3: he was a basketball player and he wanted to be
Speaker 3: a kid, but he had all this stuff going on
Speaker 3: around him that you know, how could you not be
Speaker 3: how could you not absorb that stuff right and then
Speaker 3: and then be a guy that you know, has thoughts
Speaker 3: and the thoughts beyond what you and I think about.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: In fact, Wicker, who had on the show, talked about
Speaker 2: him while back, saying, I wouldn't be surprised if he
Speaker 2: kind of would think about being going to politics, which
Speaker 2: I would, I would say, heck, yeah, do it. And
Speaker 2: then here here you go with the boss and you
Speaker 2: could say white and someone say black, someone say blue,
Speaker 2: someone say red. You can never make everybody happy. But
Speaker 2: but again, he's the smartest guy. Politics are not politics.
Speaker 3: Right, whether you like him or not, whether he liked
Speaker 3: the politics or not.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: He speaks in a reasonable way pretty much all the time.
Speaker 3: And he's got what he believes, and he backs what
Speaker 3: he believes. You know, with information that he has, you know,
Speaker 3: you can tell he's well read. You feel like he's
Speaker 3: very much you know, when he's not coaching and stuff,
Speaker 3: he's reading and doing stuff, and he's making himself smarter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which we you and I absolutely just do not.
Speaker 2: To We read because we have to.
Speaker 3: I try and see as as much video as I
Speaker 3: can that makes makes sense.
Speaker 2: Keep it read the audiobook exactly. Okay, hey, we got
Speaker 2: through the first first fifteen. We're gonna get ahold of
Speaker 2: Joe Turner, maybe have some fun, joke around and see
Speaker 2: why he's in this weekend up.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it'll be fun to talk to him, so
Speaker 3: be sure to come back.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes at alls. It's Steve Rivera
Speaker 1: and Jagen Salmas. This is I am a par on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteenth theory.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my I on the ball here
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jiggensauce.
Speaker 2: Now on the phone, we have former UA basketball player
Speaker 2: smiling Joe Turner, How you doing, Joe.
Speaker 4: I am doing very well, doing very well. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I can easily say you're the happiest former basketball player
Speaker 2: you have may Ever.
Speaker 4: I'm still pretty happy. That's that's the best way to
Speaker 4: go through life. Very much.
Speaker 2: So much. You're coming back again for the Noodolsen Camp.
Speaker 2: How you feel about it.
Speaker 4: I'm feel so happy and so lucky that I was
Speaker 4: just thinking about. One of the things that I love
Speaker 4: about Tecson is how our fans are still there for us,
Speaker 4: and we look forward to getting back into doing the
Speaker 4: fantasy camp and you know, celebrate with them.
Speaker 3: You know, Joe, when you when you come to town
Speaker 3: and people see you, you make them feel old because
Speaker 3: you know, you were You're pretty young when you were,
Speaker 3: you know, a big deal here. You're still a big deal,
Speaker 3: but when you were the bigger deal on the basketball team.
Speaker 3: And when people realize that, Joe's like, what are you
Speaker 3: Joe fifty something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, fifty eight. I'll be fifty eight in November.
Speaker 3: People go, Joe Turner's fifty eight, How the hell old
Speaker 3: are mine?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean, does it seem like that to you that
Speaker 3: you know, people kind of still think of you as
Speaker 3: a young guy who was hanging out here during you know,
Speaker 3: a great time for basketball.
Speaker 4: You know, you never usually as old as you feel.
Speaker 4: Until last year, I was still dunk in the basketball
Speaker 4: at Craig McMillan's basketball camp in Santa Rosa. You know,
Speaker 4: I still hanging out to my youth a little bit,
Speaker 4: and you know, I would advise people to, you know,
Speaker 4: keep moving, eat right, you know, and feel you know
Speaker 4: how you want to feel still young, you know, don't
Speaker 4: don't get old, because that's that's the number that they
Speaker 4: that you're at right now.
Speaker 2: So I phages, but a number, what number are you?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll fIF fifty seven going on fifty eight, But
Speaker 4: I still feel like I'm thirty eight right now.
Speaker 3: Did you did you just say you you dunked? Like
Speaker 3: in the last year.
Speaker 4: Yes, I dunked at Craig McMillan's Center rose As Junior
Speaker 4: college basketball camp.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I used to dunk every year for the kids for
Speaker 4: the camp, but this year I took opted out because
Speaker 4: I wasn't really conditioned and I hadn't prepared for it
Speaker 4: because I was doing a little bit of a vacation
Speaker 4: and then relaxing. So I was out of date, but
Speaker 4: you you didn't.
Speaker 3: You didn't blow out a knee or blow out a
Speaker 3: hip or anything like that coming down or anything.
Speaker 4: So I think maybe I gotta take my take my
Speaker 4: note from Keete Williams, because I think he decided to
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago and asked exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: So right, right, yeah, no questions. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: because uh, we love having you at the camp. And
Speaker 2: who were one of the fun guys when you were
Speaker 2: when you were here and maybe even a kid. Did
Speaker 2: you try to be funny or were you just funny?
Speaker 2: And you know you were kind of like the Yogi
Speaker 2: Bara of of quotes back in the day.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you one thing, Steve, you know it was
Speaker 4: it was pretty tough playing under coach all. You know,
Speaker 4: co tell everybody knows what you know serious about the game,
Speaker 4: and you know a lot of ways serious. And you know,
Speaker 4: I did a lot of my like funny stuff. I
Speaker 4: was just nervousness and not knowing what to do, so
Speaker 4: it just kind of came out in a nervous way
Speaker 4: and kind of naturally. So uh, a lot it was
Speaker 4: good that a lot of guys seeing it as funny.
Speaker 4: But you know, I didn't think it was so funny.
Speaker 3: Let me set you up, So are you a b Yeah?
Speaker 4: You you ain't been in Tibatis.
Speaker 3: That's that's one of the all time grace. Let me
Speaker 3: ask you, Joe about that that period of time you
Speaker 3: know in your life, which I imagine was, you know, one
Speaker 3: of the great periods of time. I don't you know
Speaker 3: what your life has been Sincember, It's probably got to
Speaker 3: be up there. How much do you think about those days?
Speaker 3: You know, kind of even on a on a daily basis,
Speaker 3: or you know, when you're just kind of hanging around,
Speaker 3: maybe having a beard, thinking about stuff. How how often
Speaker 3: does that come to mind? Particularly that Final four year.
Speaker 4: I think about it every day every day of my
Speaker 4: life because the things that we didn't realize that Coach
Speaker 4: All wasn't just teaching us, you know basketball, uh. Coach
Speaker 4: All was teaching us how to be better young men,
Speaker 4: uh in life. And I believe, you know right now,
Speaker 4: I'm a teacher, and we keep John Wooden experiment to success,
Speaker 4: and I believe that's what Coach was also mentored under
Speaker 4: John Whitten as well. And you know, I've used what
Speaker 4: we've learned in Final four and experience that we had,
Speaker 4: you know, with my family, my relationship, you know, my
Speaker 4: the partnerships that we have and professional and my private life.
Speaker 4: So that's uh, you know, always going to be one
Speaker 4: of the things that we're going to think about for
Speaker 4: the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking about Steve Kerr. We talked
Speaker 2: to him. We've talked to him just about a month
Speaker 2: ago or so, right, right, Just how was it playing
Speaker 2: for him? And let me say this because you know,
Speaker 2: Harvey's coming into town and part of the book, Harvey
Speaker 2: said one of the things you didn't want two of
Speaker 2: the things you didn't want to do when you played
Speaker 2: at UVA. You didn't want to disappoint Loot and you
Speaker 2: pretty much didn't want to disappoint Steve because Steve was
Speaker 2: kind of that unspoken leader.
Speaker 4: Uh, Steve was our captain and uh, you know he
Speaker 4: had Cotels here and if we if we didn't do
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to do, you know, after the practice
Speaker 4: was over, and you know, Steve can go to Cotel's
Speaker 4: offense and I didn't give him the rundown on the
Speaker 4: kind of the vibe of the team stuff. Would just say, hey, Steve,
Speaker 4: how are the guys doing and Steve would give him
Speaker 4: a report, you know, from the players perspective, you know.
Speaker 4: And then another thing, Steve's being on the UH on
Speaker 4: the d m C the other night, looking kind of presidential,
Speaker 4: might get a job, might get a secret service job
Speaker 4: if he wants.
Speaker 2: Right, well, you know what, you can't say former uh,
Speaker 2: the Golden State coach. You gotta wait for that to end.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't even I don't know
Speaker 3: if if I even take a bullet for Steve. Not sure,
Speaker 3: not sure. I'd have to think about that, right, Wait,
Speaker 3: what do you make of some of that stuff that
Speaker 3: some of these guys, you know, particular guy likes like Kerr,
Speaker 3: who's really you know create you know, with what the
Speaker 3: success he's had as a coach, as a player, now,
Speaker 3: you know, he's just he's a he's I think you
Speaker 3: can say he's a pop culture figure right when you
Speaker 3: think about him when you were hanging out with him
Speaker 3: in college. How does that, you know, how does that
Speaker 3: feel for you to say, I know that guy, you know,
Speaker 3: I you know, I hung out with him, hung out
Speaker 3: with him in the locker room. That kind of stuff
Speaker 3: is that is that that's got to be fun for.
Speaker 4: You, yes it is. I mean we don't see it
Speaker 4: coming from a great lineage of great people and in
Speaker 4: front of him and in his life. But Steve was
Speaker 4: hanging around u c. L A went John Whitten and
Speaker 4: his dad was taking him to those UCLA basketball games.
Speaker 4: And you know, also after Ludelson's tea team with Steve,
Speaker 4: And just to say that, you know, Steve and I
Speaker 4: were roommates and teammates. I mean that's a great feeling
Speaker 4: because people, even when I don't think about it, people
Speaker 4: remind me that, hey, Steve Kirr with your roommate, you
Speaker 4: know how of that? And we got along really well.
Speaker 4: You know, I love Steve and Steve loves me. We
Speaker 4: talked to each other on the occasion, we text each other,
Speaker 4: still giving each other, you know, uh, encouragement and messing
Speaker 4: around with one another having fun.
Speaker 2: So so this might be a dumb question, but who
Speaker 2: gave a war? Do you know the answer to who
Speaker 2: gave a loot? The most frustrating moments you were Tobert.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's no questioning its sober to no one is
Speaker 4: number one. And I think in the history of ULA basketball.
Speaker 3: Okay, if you can tell us something like that that
Speaker 3: he did that just absolutely made lose his mind. You know,
Speaker 3: something that won't get you in trouble or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But what when you talk about how crazy Tober was,
Speaker 3: what kind of stuff were we talking about?
Speaker 4: Okay, uh, you know I might be telling them Tom
Speaker 4: right now, but you know, one year in pre season
Speaker 4: consists me. We were supposed to be running the mall
Speaker 4: and the mall was like one lap around the mall
Speaker 4: was like like a mile or something like that, whatever
Speaker 4: it was, but we have to run a couple of
Speaker 4: times around the mall. So the first lap we read
Speaker 4: and we had to oh main the fountain. Uh, and
Speaker 4: Tom jumped in the fountain and h in it until
Speaker 4: the second lap and then we had coach Thompson's got something.
Speaker 4: And the second lap as we come around, Tom jumps
Speaker 4: out of the fountain. He sent to the finish line
Speaker 4: and he's sucking wet and Thompson was like me, some
Speaker 4: you're working pro hark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that made the book, if you made the book.
Speaker 3: So he didn't get busted. I mean he pulled it off.
Speaker 4: He didn't. He pulled it off, you know, but then
Speaker 4: he didn't really pull it off though. There were some
Speaker 4: games where Tom wouldn't get back on defense, and coach
Speaker 4: would just light into the just get lit into him
Speaker 4: and be like he gets back on you know time
Speaker 4: you need to get your fighting cares well. So that
Speaker 4: would just light him up when he wasn't working hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that story has made the rounds a few
Speaker 2: times because yeah, I think they sent a manager to
Speaker 2: find him because and then he was so he was
Speaker 2: so below the fountain that they couldn't see him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on his head just enough to get
Speaker 4: stuff and sit the air, and then he was completely
Speaker 4: submerged in the Doro main fountain.
Speaker 2: So so some of the in the books, some of
Speaker 2: the guys said that they dreaded practice because it was
Speaker 2: difficult at times. How did you take practice?
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, there were our days sometimes some days practices. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know that there was gonna be a tough practice.
Speaker 4: It depends on what sweatsuit. So tell we were. If
Speaker 4: he were a sweet suit with the gray and it
Speaker 4: was all like a kind of a cloth sweatsuit with
Speaker 4: the gray center and the blue tram around it, you
Speaker 4: knew we're gonna have a hell of a practice, is
Speaker 4: gonna be long and hard. And then if you were
Speaker 4: like his Uh, outther just all blue sweatsuit. We were
Speaker 4: gonna get out easy that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you've told the story before with us.
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but I know I've asked you a
Speaker 2: few times about this.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: There was a quiz. What's the quiz about the quarter?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I could pick a quarter up out of McMillan's Uh.
Speaker 4: He had a Fort Mercury link and we would make
Speaker 4: bets to get gas money. And then we have all
Speaker 4: the guys around the cars like I got Jael can
Speaker 4: pick up a quarter off the ground and guys would
Speaker 4: put their money down and then pick the quarner up
Speaker 4: and we had gas money for today.
Speaker 2: That was reaching over the door, reaching over the door.
Speaker 3: Through the window.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would be sitting inside the car and reach outside
Speaker 4: the door and pick up the corner off the ground
Speaker 4: and we get our gas money that.
Speaker 3: Way, which means hit a long wingspan. I remember the
Speaker 3: wings span. I had dinner on the road with you
Speaker 3: guys a couple of times, and I remember the wing span.
Speaker 3: You could reach across the table and pick something out
Speaker 3: of somebody's plate without them even seeing you.
Speaker 4: And that was all. Yeah, I wasn't the other one
Speaker 4: Anthony Coulk was another one.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, right, Well, what are your some of
Speaker 2: your your greatest moments here? You know the final four
Speaker 2: is one, but you know, personal.
Speaker 4: The plasm. My greatest moment was just uh interaction with
Speaker 4: the fans walking to mchel Center and see that stadium
Speaker 4: packed with fans ready to tear us on to victory.
Speaker 4: That was a personal uh great. And then also Steve uh,
Speaker 4: you know, having my degree from the University of Arizona
Speaker 4: too was a personal I don't call that my greatest subset.
Speaker 4: You're getting getting my degree?
Speaker 2: That's funny. What did you get it in? What did
Speaker 2: you get your degree in?
Speaker 4: Well, I have a degree. I got a degree on sociology,
Speaker 4: and then I got a minor in health, and now
Speaker 4: I got my master's in educating me with a counseling credential,
Speaker 4: and now I got a teaching credential, and then I'm
Speaker 4: just completing the admin's cindential right now.
Speaker 2: So forty years ago or whatever long it's been, he says,
Speaker 2: who would have ever thought Joe Turner would be teaching
Speaker 2: your kids? How there's another Jay, No, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: What would people think back in the day?
Speaker 4: Now a Coto. I went and down for recommendation for
Speaker 4: one of my first jobs, for one of my first
Speaker 4: real jobs, and it was I was a pregnancy prevention
Speaker 4: counselor at this uh at the place called Clinical Sierra Visa.
Speaker 4: And they called Coachel and they was like, you know,
Speaker 4: Joe Turner's interviewing for a job as a pregnancy prevention
Speaker 4: uh counselor. You know, what can you tell us about him?
Speaker 4: And Coach was like, Joe, Joe Turner, are we talking
Speaker 4: about the same people?
Speaker 2: Forgot it? Did you get the job?
Speaker 4: I got the job?
Speaker 3: That's too funny?
Speaker 4: Opportunities, I made this money.
Speaker 2: What are you teaching?
Speaker 3: What are you teaching?
Speaker 4: I teach right now? Uh. It's a program called Recycling
Speaker 4: Lives and it's for the bag Still adult school, So
Speaker 4: it's adults and we're teaching them to get back into
Speaker 4: the work force. And it's a very hard to serve clients.
Speaker 4: Tell that we're working with uh so we're living out
Speaker 4: of jail and the long term out of work adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very very uh it's very necessary here in Bakersville,
Speaker 4: out of California.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, uh I know that we uh
Speaker 2: uh maybe the story that probably gets told too much,
Speaker 2: but I don't mind saying it. Uh. So you're in
Speaker 2: an elevator somewhere and an old couple, you know every
Speaker 2: I'm kind of old now too. Yeah. You see, they
Speaker 2: said we're going to some floor and what do you
Speaker 2: tell them?
Speaker 4: I thought, I'm not I know where you guys just
Speaker 4: came from. And they was like, how do you know that?
Speaker 4: And that's sake that I have ESP.
Speaker 2: And those old people they just love. You know, when
Speaker 2: you've got a six foot ten guy telling you jokes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you love it, said.
Speaker 4: That's the time. I wasn't joking. I thought it was
Speaker 4: the Actually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh really, yeah that makes more sense. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: makes more sense. Okay, Joe, we'll see you tomorrow. Enjoy.
Speaker 2: Uh we'll see you all weekend, you and your guys,
Speaker 2: Pete and everybody.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Stam. I love you guys and looking forward
Speaker 4: to uh imber you can spend it a great weekend
Speaker 4: with all of you.
Speaker 2: Great, thank you, Joe, Thanks Joe, be well, Joe Turning. Yeah, fun,
Speaker 2: he's a fun dude. Yeah, he is literally just a
Speaker 2: fun dude. You imagine.
Speaker 3: But you go to some class and the guy walk
Speaker 3: your teacher walks in.
Speaker 2: He's six ten, yeah, sixteen, Yeah, and just kind of
Speaker 2: you know all you're doing.
Speaker 3: With hands like that, right.
Speaker 2: Right, you don't want to mess with them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good guy, that's a good guy.
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Speaker 3: You want one of the Joe Turner things that has
Speaker 3: always come to mind when I when I think game.
Speaker 3: There was a game and I remember who it was against,
Speaker 3: where he gets the ball inside, tries to dunk it. Okay,
Speaker 3: it doesn't go in, pops up in the air. He
Speaker 3: tries to dunk it again, still doesn't go in, pops
Speaker 3: up in the air, and he gets another rebound and
Speaker 3: throws it down, and Luke joked about the fact that
Speaker 3: he had gotten on Joe to he needed rebound better,
Speaker 3: so he created three rebounds.
Speaker 2: Which which wouldn't be a surprise. There was another story,
Speaker 2: and I think I've said this a few times. I
Speaker 2: know it made the book at two or two. Uh
Speaker 2: So lou was poed at him one thing and he
Speaker 2: missed the assignment of a of a of a of
Speaker 2: a play important play. So at halftime he asked he
Speaker 2: asked Joe to go to the to the chalkboard right
Speaker 2: to the big white board and chalkboard at the time,
Speaker 2: I think, and it was a massive chalkboard. So Joe
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, kind of shy or whatever,
Speaker 2: went to the went to the huge chalkboard and drew
Speaker 2: a little box like a two by two U of
Speaker 2: paint and paint of the of the of the screw
Speaker 2: two by two and he had a massive area where
Speaker 2: you could just write a two by two by two,
Speaker 2: but he did a two inch by two inch and
Speaker 2: he did a real shot. Didn't kind of do much
Speaker 2: and says, Joe, this is your You're just supposed to
Speaker 2: tell me where you're at. So he wrote a little
Speaker 2: little box and then he put a little X. How
Speaker 2: are we supposed to see this? And we supposed to
Speaker 2: see this, Joe, You're supposed to be at this place.
Speaker 2: So Joe was like, you know, and he didn't even
Speaker 2: know where he was supposed to be. He kept asking
Speaker 2: for help. No one was going to give him help
Speaker 2: because they didn't want to be in trouble with Luke
Speaker 2: because because he didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what the pride was.
Speaker 2: He didn't know what the play was. And that probably
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise you yeah, but he was exactly what they
Speaker 2: needed in terms of a filler guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he was because one he could come in,
Speaker 3: he could play, but he was also a guy that you.
Speaker 2: Know, knew his role and knew his role.
Speaker 3: Everybody loved him, you know, you could, like, you know,
Speaker 3: being on the road with those guys, you could kind
Speaker 3: of see he was the guy that, while not the
Speaker 3: captain or something like that, you know, away from the court,
Speaker 3: he was the guy you could tell. He was the
Speaker 3: guy that the other players looked to to just kind of,
Speaker 3: I don't know, keep a vibe, you know, keep keep
Speaker 3: exactly the levity of the group and not let any
Speaker 3: of those guys take themselves too seriously. But yet you
Speaker 3: could count on him when he came on the court, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Except for drawings and where you needed to be.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about his wingspan. And I think
Speaker 3: I've told this story before, but the very first road
Speaker 3: trip I took with those guys, well it was the first, no,
Speaker 3: because I took one earlier, but we went to San
Speaker 3: Diego State. It was like early in the season in
Speaker 3: the eighty six eighty seventh season, so I'm brand new
Speaker 3: to covering the team. And I got invited to go
Speaker 3: to dinner with the team, and we went to remember
Speaker 3: Anthony's Grotto, the place over there. So we go there
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm at the end. So all the guys
Speaker 3: are sitting and I'm I'm the last seat. It's a
Speaker 3: really one It was really long tables, and I'm at
Speaker 3: the end, and all of a sudden, I look to
Speaker 3: my right and Joe turners on the same side of
Speaker 3: the table as I am, and I see this arm
Speaker 3: come across and reached past two guys to get into
Speaker 3: another guy's plate.
Speaker 2: So this arm comes.
Speaker 3: Across it and then this big giant hand and take something
Speaker 3: from somebody's plate, and I'm like, Who's I couldn't even
Speaker 3: tell whose arm it was because it came from so
Speaker 3: far away, and you know, he's picking something out of
Speaker 3: one of the other guy's.
Speaker 2: Plate when he was nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was I'm like, it was
Speaker 3: for somebody, who's you know. The tallest guy I knew
Speaker 3: at the time was my brother was five eleven, right.
Speaker 3: You know, it was fascinating me just how different a
Speaker 3: world those guys lived in because of you know, what
Speaker 3: it was like for them to get on an airplane,
Speaker 3: what it was like for them to walk around a
Speaker 3: hotel and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Well, do you remember when you were nineteen nineteen, twenty
Speaker 2: years old? Yeah, Ben, how was it?
Speaker 3: It wasn't like that, that's my point. Yeah point, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're not still going to drive in movies. I had
Speaker 3: a you know, I had a part time job at
Speaker 3: the newspaper, going to high school football games that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, and I was in school. The funny thing about it,
Speaker 2: and you know that's saying it's good to be a
Speaker 2: quarterback or football beeral blah blah blah. It's good to
Speaker 2: be an athlete back in the days. Uh we you know,
Speaker 2: you were a star, whether they're paying you or not
Speaker 2: or whatever. You had pretty girls.
Speaker 3: Well that was you know, this team, you know that
Speaker 3: when I first started covering, they hadn't gotten to the
Speaker 3: final four anything like that, right, they'd want to pack
Speaker 3: up championship, packed in championship. But they were celebrities in
Speaker 3: this town already, you know, even though the program hadn't
Speaker 3: become what it became. But they would walk you know,
Speaker 3: they'd walk around you know. Uh, I mean I remember
Speaker 3: being on campus and seeing one of those guys, the
Speaker 3: people following them, you know, and you go, that's different, right,
Speaker 3: that's you know, And and then and them also kind
Speaker 3: of doing things to maybe avoid being in the you know,
Speaker 3: you know, in the spotlight, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh again.
Speaker 3: I remember having a conversation with Sean Elliott and talking
Speaker 3: about how you know, it was for him to go
Speaker 3: to a restaurant, right, you know, I met him at
Speaker 3: his dorm and to do this, I want to do
Speaker 3: this long anyway, spend an evening with him basically, and
Speaker 3: they said, hey, you want to go get something? He said, yeah,
Speaker 3: but can we bring it back? Right, because he didn't
Speaker 3: want to go sit in a restaurant. And we went
Speaker 3: and got a pizza and we took it back and
Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff that they had to deal
Speaker 3: with as kids.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that he says, shot and
Speaker 2: told me, says, I had to learn how to say no, yeah,
Speaker 2: because everyone was asking him to do stuff. And that's
Speaker 2: kind of one of the reasons why you kind of
Speaker 2: saw him disappeared for a while, Yeah, because he he
Speaker 2: was tired of it. And then he got married, got remarried,
Speaker 2: and his wife kind of kind of took care of
Speaker 2: his schedule to be out of the limelight. You know,
Speaker 2: he was no longer playing. Now he's doing the TV work,
Speaker 2: and it was more upsettled down. And then he had
Speaker 2: his his his uh, his kidney issues, kidney right and
Speaker 2: other and other things, and just to kind of make
Speaker 2: sure he slowed down a little.
Speaker 3: Well, you know again, when you when you think about
Speaker 3: you know that that that the prom was just beginning
Speaker 3: to rise. And yet these here are these guys and
Speaker 3: they're you know, there's stars in their own town and
Speaker 3: and the and their kids, you know, and and I
Speaker 3: remember that again. I think I've told the story too
Speaker 3: that you know, the conversation I had with him that
Speaker 3: night when you know, he said, he said, can we
Speaker 3: took off the record? And I said, yeah, he goes
Speaker 3: it was, do you think I should do you think
Speaker 3: I should go.
Speaker 2: To the raft?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, John, I think you need to do
Speaker 3: what you think is right for you. But what doll
Speaker 3: the fans think? I said, you shouldn't give a crap
Speaker 3: about what the fans think. But he was concerned about that, right,
Speaker 3: you know, because he knew that a lot of what
Speaker 3: he was was because of how the fans felt.
Speaker 2: But I you know.
Speaker 3: I I told him, I said, don't you know you
Speaker 3: shouldn't give a crap about what the fans.
Speaker 2: I said, listen to your mom.
Speaker 3: And that's why he stayed another year.
Speaker 2: But part of the part of that is I think
Speaker 2: that during the wood we've got a call. Okay, take
Speaker 2: this call.
Speaker 3: Oh you got lost him, go ahead and call callback.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, be paying attention. He was was just
Speaker 2: too late to it. So it was that alluding him
Speaker 2: went to an awards thing and I'd been the wooden
Speaker 2: where he didn't win it, when the year he did
Speaker 2: win it, and they went to a game, an NBA game,
Speaker 2: and purposely had him sit under a basket, under one
Speaker 2: of the baskets right, and guess what he saw. Those
Speaker 2: dudes were big and they were tough and they were physical.
Speaker 2: And Luke says to him, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2: I'm going back to shool, going back to school because
Speaker 2: I'm not ready. You know, he's a skinny kid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was, all right, let's take this. Hi, you're on
Speaker 2: the air and eye on the ball.
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, what's up this Vic?
Speaker 15: Vic?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 12: So have it tATu. My one of my best memories
Speaker 12: of those guys. It was eighty nine the pack twelvel
Speaker 12: Turn or packed can or whatever it was called. Was
Speaker 12: that the Forum and they had just won the title.
Speaker 12: And uh, we're going down Manchester and its back in
Speaker 12: the days when you could ride in the back of
Speaker 12: us truck. So I'm driving my little truck and the
Speaker 12: guy that's in the back, Hey, that's Sean Elliot. I said,
Speaker 12: shut up, you see him going to other away? He goes, no,
Speaker 12: I'll make a U turn, Make a U turn. So
Speaker 12: I make a U turn, and I pull into a
Speaker 12: Wendy's and shun up. Sean and his girlfriend are getting
Speaker 12: out to go have a burger, so I have to.
Speaker 4: Pull the old.
Speaker 12: Hey Sean, I hate to bother.
Speaker 3: You, but but I'm going to bother you.
Speaker 12: So he's gracious talks to us. We all take a
Speaker 12: picture with him, and and I still have it hanging
Speaker 12: in my house. But that's forward another year later. He's
Speaker 12: already in the pros and we're like at a nightclub
Speaker 12: right here on twenty second and will mind, I can't
Speaker 12: remember the name of it. And he then so my
Speaker 12: my cousin goes up and says, hey, Sean, do you
Speaker 12: remember me? I met you at Jack in the Box
Speaker 12: and he goes, dude, it was Wendy's bro.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so that was that was one of my best
Speaker 12: memory out of telling you. I still have that picture hanging.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna teach you and say, see you
Speaker 2: were taking help. He's way back in.
Speaker 3: The day, exactly exactly. But that those guys were like
Speaker 3: that though, right they I think they feel like they understood,
Speaker 3: they understood how important they were to other people in
Speaker 3: this town. And while sometimes it was hard for them,
Speaker 3: they would do those things.
Speaker 12: Wow, I'll tell you what. That's still that team when
Speaker 12: they lost at UNLV deal, that still brought tears in
Speaker 12: my eyes the time I ever cried.
Speaker 2: Were you were you a student at Ubay or did
Speaker 2: you just okay, were you living in LA at the time.
Speaker 12: I was living in l A at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, you're everywhere, You're anywhere,
Speaker 2: all right, you guys? Ok, thank you? Vic? Say did
Speaker 2: you see I don't you mentioned something about home runs yesterday?
Speaker 2: But did you see the Mexico victory with the home run?
Speaker 2: And then there was a kid, yeah, and there was
Speaker 2: another one before him, the big husky kid. Yeah, home
Speaker 2: runs yesterday like crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I saw that. I saw the highlight
Speaker 3: of the of the walk off by the kid from
Speaker 3: Mexico against Cuba. Yeah, because we were talking about that
Speaker 3: game during.
Speaker 2: Right, because Cuba had a pretty good wae. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now no, I you know, going back to Shanelle,
Speaker 3: I know it's probably not breaking easting, but I don't
Speaker 3: know if you saw that. Bill Land, the guy who's
Speaker 3: been the play by play voice that shot shown Elliott
Speaker 3: has worked with on on on radio for the for
Speaker 3: the Spurs.
Speaker 2: Is retiring. Oh okay, yeah, and he said that.
Speaker 3: Shown posted about you know how much he enjoyed working.
Speaker 2: With Sure it was gonna see a long time one
Speaker 2: years Sean's been doing that. Yeah. So Sean's about fifty
Speaker 2: eight two, right, so he was about thirty seven fifty seven,
Speaker 2: maybe a year younger than Turner. Okay, yeah, because cursed fifty.
Speaker 3: Eight Yeah, yeah, because that Elliott was a junior when
Speaker 3: Joe and and and Steve Kerr were senior.
Speaker 2: So he's probably a year younger. And those are the
Speaker 2: those were the really good old days. Yeah, when things
Speaker 2: were different, but just fun, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it was it was all just fun. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like people took themselves as seriously about basketball as
Speaker 3: they do now. It's not life. It wasn't life and death.
Speaker 3: Back then. People were just having fun watching these guys
Speaker 3: win and it was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I know you can't. I know you
Speaker 2: can't and you can't and I can't publicly say this
Speaker 2: because it's not true or true. Your first born is
Speaker 2: very special in a way. Yeah, that was there was
Speaker 2: that was Arizona's first born.
Speaker 3: Well, what's funny is just say that because you know, uh,
Speaker 3: when uh, coming back from Kansas City after they lost
Speaker 3: in that Final four, when I got before I got
Speaker 3: on the plane, they told me that they wanted me
Speaker 3: to write then we're doing a special section at the start,
Speaker 3: doing a special section on the team, and they wanted
Speaker 3: me to write a lead into it. Then they were
Speaker 3: just going to kind of put it rerun articles like that,
Speaker 3: And that was exactly what I led with. He said,
Speaker 3: And I can't think of the wording, but I do
Speaker 3: remember that that Dana Cooper put it on at the
Speaker 3: end of the video that he did on that team.
Speaker 3: But I said that, I said, they may come to
Speaker 3: go to more final fours, but there's never going to
Speaker 3: be one more special than this one because it was
Speaker 3: the first one.
Speaker 2: No, no, you're right, even though they had a national
Speaker 2: tit with a national better team, it's hard. It's hard
Speaker 2: to top the first time.
Speaker 3: And then that that was exactly that.
Speaker 2: That that was what came into my head.
Speaker 3: Somebody who grew up here like the first time you go,
Speaker 3: like like I thought there was going to be a
Speaker 3: first time for a Rose.
Speaker 2: Bowl a long time ago. Yeah, I ask you about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take this.
Speaker 2: How you're on the air and eye on the ball.
Speaker 15: How's it going today?
Speaker 2: I thought, Brian, you got about a minute and a half.
Speaker 15: Okay, just about a story that back in the in
Speaker 15: the chant in the final four year back in my
Speaker 15: old job before he retired, delivering mail. I got to
Speaker 15: deliver where Steve Kerr and John Elliott lived, which is
Speaker 15: where uh back on Tyndall.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're near in school.
Speaker 15: Okay, yeah yeah, but two of the nicest people you
Speaker 15: ever meet in your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The funny thing is, I think I've talked about
Speaker 2: this before, uh just maybe a month ago. Says what's
Speaker 2: the different what makes the players different? And from being
Speaker 2: meaner or nicer? And it was not even a question
Speaker 2: the parents.
Speaker 15: If you have social media.
Speaker 2: Well, no social media, but if your parents are good people,
Speaker 2: you're going to be a good person because you have
Speaker 2: you know, you've learned from them, right.
Speaker 15: And also to plus the social media, the money involved,
Speaker 15: just it's just not sports.
Speaker 2: Anymore, right, right, Bill? You know I say this all
Speaker 2: the time. I'm not a sports fan and and people
Speaker 2: know why. But now that it's become all about what
Speaker 2: you just said, Bill, social media, money and change, Brian,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the changes and all that, it's just even
Speaker 2: harder for me.
Speaker 4: They make it hard to watch sports now, you know.
Speaker 15: And I you know, and I you know, I'm it,
Speaker 15: but still exactly, you know, hard to sit there and
Speaker 15: go when all you all you all these college players
Speaker 15: care about is the money.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 15: And and I think what Gundy said the other day,
Speaker 15: the guy from Oklahoma State, Yeah, it's time to practice.
Speaker 15: The nil stuff is over right, No.
Speaker 2: Right, no, perfect, We talked about that. Yeah, Brian, thanks man, Okay, Brian,
Speaker 2: thanks about take care.
Speaker 3: No, he's right, and we have the conversation about what
Speaker 3: Gundy said, which is right. At some point he's got
Speaker 3: he's got a start thinking about football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, March you talked to me, or after the season,
Speaker 2: you'll have yours right now is my time? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like Spacoli thing, your time and time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he goes in order to peek right
Speaker 3: in his time. All right, Hey, that was good. All Right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna take our break. We're gonna come.
Speaker 2: Back breaking news, Henry.
Speaker 3: Henry's got breaking news, and uh we'll cover some stuff
Speaker 3: and then, uh we've got Mike Andre coming up at
Speaker 3: about four twenty, so stick around.