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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Zawas got our guy Henry in today. Welcome to Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something to ask you, Jay and I. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>hecky way to start the show. But it's true. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember what that. He goes in my mom it'll

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<v Speaker 2>come to me and come to me. Welcome to Wednesday show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things is it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good show. I think today you're gonna be gone Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and Friday. Are you getting ready to head to California?

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<v Speaker 2>But today's a good show. It's gonna be a fun show.

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<v Speaker 2>First half, the first hour is gonna be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Joe Turner. We're gonna joke about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the jokes that he said many years ago. Uh, without

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that he's joking right, without knowing he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those yogi berra guys, it says crazy stuff and then

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<v Speaker 2>he looks, I guess that was funny. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was funny. So we'll talk to him and then somebody guys,

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<v Speaker 2>some one of the guys that we tried to get

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<v Speaker 2>a while back because of the Olympics. Uh, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad we didn't because his sport is no longer or

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<v Speaker 2>didn't didn't play in Paris, Uh, Mike Candrea. Just to

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<v Speaker 2>see what he's up to and get his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>it probably coming back, I think, isn't softball coming back?

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but they're gonna play it in a Olahoma City.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll talk to him about that too, because you

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<v Speaker 2>know he used to get mail in Oklahoma City because

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<v Speaker 2>he was there so often. What do you have to explain?

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<v Speaker 2>The joke is not that good? Jay? Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 2>got it. So we'll have him in the second hour

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Olympics and see what he's up to,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know he's a busy guy. He's still I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's still on the staff with the Desiree. At

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<v Speaker 2>least he's listed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he's still. Listen, he's still

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<v Speaker 3>doing stuffs up all right. He was over wasn't he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He I don't know, a consultant or something.

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<v Speaker 3>A consultant or something for the World Championships or something.

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<v Speaker 2>For I know he had been helping Team Italy. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, that's what it's well back, Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 2>might have kind of see the kind of role that

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<v Speaker 2>he's with desiree because as you know, it's changes changes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what he's up to. Yeah, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>what he learned and what we were talking about. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, what are we talking about yesterday? Those titles?

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<v Speaker 2>If he's still kind of in the insights? Is what's

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<v Speaker 2>up with all the titles the GM and the handholder

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<v Speaker 2>of the handholder? Yeah, what the hell give me that job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that. I'll do that job.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I know it's like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you need coffee? I'll go get coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I feel like somebody's getting paid

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<v Speaker 3>seventy grand to mess around with spreadsheet through something you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>The database of recruits going or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk to him about all that going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I needed to ask you something today. Was

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<v Speaker 2>something that happened yesterday I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Brain dick, because you've been getting my daughter packed and

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go, filled up a U haul with with

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and heading out to San Diego first thing tomorrow morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and then getting my my kid moved out and we

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<v Speaker 3>become empty nesters again. So we'll see, uh, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>How much fun we're gonna find out again if your

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<v Speaker 2>wife really loves you.

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<v Speaker 3>She does, she just I mean even even yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Does, because once kids are gone, you might have to

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<v Speaker 2>find something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>We might have to talk to each other. I have

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<v Speaker 3>to make some dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's probably why she likes you. You're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>a great wife one day. Okay, Henry, how are you doing? Schools?

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<v Speaker 2>Getting closer? You ready? Pretty ready? Yeah? Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>school for you. Bet no matter how well you do

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<v Speaker 2>in school, this is going to get you to job.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going, what the hell is going on here?

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<v Speaker 3>To talk about life? Talk about life exactly, exactly. Now, Look,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, every day we're a day closer to football.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's actually some football this Saturday, so so that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exciting, right, it's uh, but only four games, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's four games? Four four or five. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>NFL starts in two.

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<v Speaker 3>Weeks, two weeks, two weeks, right, because they it's all

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<v Speaker 3>college next weekend. Yeah, and then the NFL get kicks

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<v Speaker 3>into gear. Yeah, so we have football all the way

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<v Speaker 3>into February.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's and that's good. We'll have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>changes with our program, right, we're moving. We're moving to

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<v Speaker 2>a different site. Maybe we'll get the phones working better

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<v Speaker 2>and our equipment will be been. It's September.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the September ninth or something, Monday date

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<v Speaker 3>it's been set as to when going live.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, September nine. Yeah. Yeah, did you see

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta I got a note that's it wasn't nasty

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<v Speaker 2>in tone, but very accurate in tone. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>start getting my crap together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They pretty much said, you need to get you need

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<v Speaker 3>to get get on the train and learn this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't make me. I'm sixty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Old, dog Nutrix, old, dog Nutrix.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to have Henry be my apprentice and have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay Oh no, no, no, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to remember passwords. What okay, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do some documents for Henry now, and then I screwed

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<v Speaker 2>up so I have.

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<v Speaker 3>To redo it, Henry. Sorry, sorry, Henry. You know I

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<v Speaker 3>can do that stuff, Henry. He's technically capable of all that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had all our media, our media and social

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<v Speaker 2>shame on you today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was funny for about what fifteen minutes. Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Andre was Tata Stubbs right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone sent me a note said did you see what

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<v Speaker 2>you put up? And I said, I don't put up

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<v Speaker 2>anything social that. He sent me a photo. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not subs you had and I had Joe Turner as

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<v Speaker 2>uh as who is a Philip Philip Stewart. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys are both African American. All right, somebody could

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<v Speaker 3>look at that and not you know, and go, okay, two.

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<v Speaker 2>Different pictures because Joe's smiling like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just my and and we mentioned phil Stewart just looks

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<v Speaker 3>mean but it's mean and mad. Oh he didn't sound

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<v Speaker 3>like that at all. Yeah, no, No, he was a

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<v Speaker 3>great He was a lot of fun. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I you know that that's we'll see that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I I took a break from loading a

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<v Speaker 3>U haul to do that stuff, and so it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of got away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you. Yeah, I know. Someone said, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, it's not like you haven't done that before.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done that. Yeah, I've done that when things been called.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not gonna so I'm not gonna criticize because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it at all. Yeah, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't complain about the food of finding cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>It exactly well, I do, but you cook well cook No,

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<v Speaker 3>not at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I go to a restaurant, Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>paying for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's that's different. Okay, yeah, no, no, no, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could give me something said, this doesn't taste so good,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't cook at all, you know. Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even worry about your henry yet. You know. It's pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm good. I'm just gonna make sure I save

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<v Speaker 2>it right. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So today we're gonna find out how how strong the

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<v Speaker 3>Kiss of Death continues to be. I've had Max Munsey

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers Third Basement on on my roster, but he's been

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<v Speaker 3>on the IL for like three months, and so he

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<v Speaker 3>came off the I L on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't activated him. He had a homer on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>He had another. He had another one on Tuesday, so

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<v Speaker 3>he's come off off of the al and hit homers

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<v Speaker 3>and back to back games. He's active on my roster today.

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<v Speaker 3>So if he strikes out like four times or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that, we know the Kod is alive. And well,

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<v Speaker 3>as we head into football.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what this is the time I start to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it sleeps for a while and then it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grows. It's like that. What's that? What was

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<v Speaker 2>that movie? The bat or the thing that came in

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<v Speaker 2>got He's stop for thirty years and he woke up

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<v Speaker 2>and he came and got the people, uh or something? No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of a flying kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>thing with.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking that it's just like a barren hibernation.

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<v Speaker 3>It pokes, it's set out after a while. That's even

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<v Speaker 3>a better. Okay, we're just gonna start eating people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right? Okay, Well, I have no doubt that your

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<v Speaker 2>Kod will come back. I don't know, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>seek and we have to we have to get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the football US.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't announce it today because let's we still got

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<v Speaker 3>some things in finance. But we may have a big

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<v Speaker 3>announcement on Monday when I get back.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, Monday. Well, a lot of life changes next month,

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<v Speaker 2>right or which will be great? Yeah, uh, which, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we can see people. We're gonna have a better

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<v Speaker 2>studio and we'll have people probably come in business for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll actually want to bring people towards.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have guests. Yeah, right, and it's gonna be on

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<v Speaker 2>Swan and Sunrise rights of Sunrise. So you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>we just like going to night two one oh compared

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<v Speaker 2>to you here?

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<v Speaker 3>They have to finish that McDonald's up there really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>No, your doctor, your doctors might not like my doctor

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know he does, well he will you come up

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<v Speaker 2>with those numbers of clubs.

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<v Speaker 3>See, there's too McDonald's on my way here. I can

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<v Speaker 3>stop anytime I want. Well, then you don't just want

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<v Speaker 3>to want and four load. Then there's another one kambling

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<v Speaker 3>for loan. I can go to those anytime I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's a dairy queen. There's kinds of I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you're still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Meds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I tay a lot two people and not

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<v Speaker 2>too much information here. But we can have Bernie's. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the twodes that kept my meds are the things

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<v Speaker 2>that keep me up. Those are my weekend at Bernie guys. Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>who want to say the true to stoves we have?

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<v Speaker 2>We have soccer, we have volleyball, what else? Uh, the Pima.

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<v Speaker 2>U as usual as usual. Ye, as usual. So there

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't talk about that, you know, I got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this. I even said this some more quicker

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<v Speaker 2>thing still, and I can say this with hesitation. He's

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<v Speaker 2>variety of subjects, right, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's part of it. Yeah, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of it. You know, if you like him

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<v Speaker 2>for politics, don't let for products. I get it, But

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<v Speaker 2>he knows about politics.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows uh you look, you know, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and he grew up and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how could you not absorb that stuff right and then

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<v Speaker 3>and then be a guy that you know, has thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>and the thoughts beyond what you and I think about.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Wicker, who had on the show, talked about

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<v Speaker 2>him while back, saying, I wouldn't be surprised if he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of would think about being going to politics, which

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<v Speaker 2>I would, I would say, heck, yeah, do it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then here here you go with the boss and you

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<v Speaker 2>could say white and someone say black, someone say blue,

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<v Speaker 2>someone say red. You can never make everybody happy. But

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<v Speaker 2>but again, he's the smartest guy. Politics are not politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, whether you like him or not, whether he liked

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<v Speaker 3>the politics or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>He speaks in a reasonable way pretty much all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's got what he believes, and he backs what

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<v Speaker 3>he believes. You know, with information that he has, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can tell he's well read. You feel like he's

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<v Speaker 3>very much you know, when he's not coaching and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>he's reading and doing stuff, and he's making himself smarter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which we you and I absolutely just do not.

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<v Speaker 2>To We read because we have to.

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<v Speaker 3>can that makes makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it read the audiobook exactly. Okay, hey, we got

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<v Speaker 2>through the first first fifteen. We're gonna get ahold of

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the exes at alls. It's Steve Rivera

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my I on the ball here

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<v Speaker 2>Now on the phone, we have former UA basketball player

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing very well, doing very well. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can easily say you're the happiest former basketball player

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still pretty happy. That's that's the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>So much. You're coming back again for the Noodolsen Camp.

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<v Speaker 2>How you feel about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm feel so happy and so lucky that I was

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Joe, when you when you come to town

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<v Speaker 3>and people see you, you make them feel old because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you were You're pretty young when you were,

422
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<v Speaker 3>you know, a big deal here. You're still a big deal,

423
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<v Speaker 3>but when you were the bigger deal on the basketball team.

424
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<v Speaker 3>And when people realize that, Joe's like, what are you

425
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<v Speaker 3>Joe fifty something?

426
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fifty eight. I'll be fifty eight in November.

427
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<v Speaker 3>People go, Joe Turner's fifty eight, How the hell old

428
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<v Speaker 3>are mine?

429
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<v Speaker 2>Now?

430
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<v Speaker 4>So?

431
00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

432
00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, does it seem like that to you that

433
00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:10.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, people kind of still think of you as

434
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<v Speaker 3>a young guy who was hanging out here during you know,

435
00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.359
<v Speaker 3>a great time for basketball.

436
00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:19.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, you never usually as old as you feel.

437
00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Until last year, I was still dunk in the basketball

438
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<v Speaker 4>at Craig McMillan's basketball camp in Santa Rosa. You know,

439
00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:30.519
<v Speaker 4>I still hanging out to my youth a little bit,

440
00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.559
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I would advise people to, you know,

441
00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.599
<v Speaker 4>keep moving, eat right, you know, and feel you know

442
00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.000
<v Speaker 4>how you want to feel still young, you know, don't

443
00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.559
<v Speaker 4>don't get old, because that's that's the number that they

444
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<v Speaker 4>that you're at right now.

445
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<v Speaker 2>So I phages, but a number, what number are you?

446
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll fIF fifty seven going on fifty eight, But

447
00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I still feel like I'm thirty eight right now.

448
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<v Speaker 3>Did you did you just say you you dunked? Like

449
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<v Speaker 3>in the last year.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I dunked at Craig McMillan's Center rose As Junior

451
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<v Speaker 4>college basketball camp.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

453
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<v Speaker 4>I used to dunk every year for the kids for

454
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<v Speaker 4>the camp, but this year I took opted out because

455
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.559
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't really conditioned and I hadn't prepared for it

456
00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.000
<v Speaker 4>because I was doing a little bit of a vacation

457
00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.160
<v Speaker 4>and then relaxing. So I was out of date, but

458
00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:19.359
<v Speaker 4>you you didn't.

459
00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.440
<v Speaker 3>You didn't blow out a knee or blow out a

460
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:23.920
<v Speaker 3>hip or anything like that coming down or anything.

461
00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.480
<v Speaker 4>So I think maybe I gotta take my take my

462
00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.599
<v Speaker 4>note from Keete Williams, because I think he decided to

463
00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.880
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago and asked exactly what happened.

464
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.559
<v Speaker 2>So right, right, yeah, no questions. Let me ask you

465
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<v Speaker 2>because uh, we love having you at the camp. And

466
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<v Speaker 2>who were one of the fun guys when you were

467
00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 2>when you were here and maybe even a kid. Did

468
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you try to be funny or were you just funny?

469
00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:50.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know you were kind of like the Yogi

470
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<v Speaker 2>Bara of of quotes back in the day.

471
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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you one thing, Steve, you know it was

472
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.319
<v Speaker 4>it was pretty tough playing under coach all. You know,

473
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 4>co tell everybody knows what you know serious about the game,

474
00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.039
<v Speaker 4>and you know a lot of ways serious. And you know,

475
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 4>I did a lot of my like funny stuff. I

476
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 4>was just nervousness and not knowing what to do, so

477
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.480
<v Speaker 4>it just kind of came out in a nervous way

478
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.039
<v Speaker 4>and kind of naturally. So uh, a lot it was

479
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.039
<v Speaker 4>good that a lot of guys seeing it as funny.

480
00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:25.880
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I didn't think it was so funny.

481
00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Let me set you up, So are you a b Yeah?

482
00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:33.839
<v Speaker 4>You you ain't been in Tibatis.

483
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's one of the all time grace. Let me

484
00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.119
<v Speaker 3>ask you, Joe about that that period of time you

485
00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.039
<v Speaker 3>know in your life, which I imagine was, you know, one

486
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of the great periods of time. I don't you know

487
00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.400
<v Speaker 3>what your life has been Sincember, It's probably got to

488
00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.519
<v Speaker 3>be up there. How much do you think about those days?

489
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, kind of even on a on a daily basis,

490
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.759
<v Speaker 3>or you know, when you're just kind of hanging around,

491
00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe having a beard, thinking about stuff. How how often

492
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 3>does that come to mind? Particularly that Final four year.

493
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<v Speaker 4>I think about it every day every day of my

494
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 4>life because the things that we didn't realize that Coach

495
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.799
<v Speaker 4>All wasn't just teaching us, you know basketball, uh. Coach

496
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 4>All was teaching us how to be better young men,

497
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 4>uh in life. And I believe, you know right now,

498
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm a teacher, and we keep John Wooden experiment to success,

499
00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 4>and I believe that's what Coach was also mentored under

500
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.960
<v Speaker 4>John Whitten as well. And you know, I've used what

501
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 4>we've learned in Final four and experience that we had,

502
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, with my family, my relationship, you know, my

503
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:46.799
<v Speaker 4>the partnerships that we have and professional and my private life.

504
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.640
<v Speaker 4>So that's uh, you know, always going to be one

505
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<v Speaker 4>of the things that we're going to think about for

506
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:53.960
<v Speaker 4>the rest of my life.

507
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were just talking about Steve Kerr. We talked

508
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<v Speaker 2>to him. We've talked to him just about a month

509
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>ago or so, right, right, Just how was it playing

510
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.599
<v Speaker 2>for him? And let me say this because you know,

511
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Harvey's coming into town and part of the book, Harvey

512
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:09.880
<v Speaker 2>said one of the things you didn't want two of

513
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the things you didn't want to do when you played

514
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>at UVA. You didn't want to disappoint Loot and you

515
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty much didn't want to disappoint Steve because Steve was

516
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of that unspoken leader.

517
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Steve was our captain and uh, you know he

518
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 4>had Cotels here and if we if we didn't do

519
00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:29.880
<v Speaker 4>what we're supposed to do, you know, after the practice

520
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 4>was over, and you know, Steve can go to Cotel's

521
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.039
<v Speaker 4>offense and I didn't give him the rundown on the

522
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of the vibe of the team stuff. Would just say, hey, Steve,

523
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 4>how are the guys doing and Steve would give him

524
00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 4>a report, you know, from the players perspective, you know.

525
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.079
<v Speaker 4>And then another thing, Steve's being on the UH on

526
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.680
<v Speaker 4>the d m C the other night, looking kind of presidential,

527
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.119
<v Speaker 4>might get a job, might get a secret service job

528
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:56.119
<v Speaker 4>if he wants.

529
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, you know what, you can't say former uh,

530
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the Golden State coach. You gotta wait for that to end.

531
00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, I don't even I don't know

532
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 3>if if I even take a bullet for Steve. Not sure,

533
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>not sure. I'd have to think about that, right, Wait,

534
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.359
<v Speaker 3>what do you make of some of that stuff that

535
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.039
<v Speaker 3>some of these guys, you know, particular guy likes like Kerr,

536
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 3>who's really you know create you know, with what the

537
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 3>success he's had as a coach, as a player, now,

538
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's just he's a he's I think you

539
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 3>can say he's a pop culture figure right when you

540
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 3>think about him when you were hanging out with him

541
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 3>in college. How does that, you know, how does that

542
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 3>feel for you to say, I know that guy, you know,

543
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I hung out with him, hung out

544
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>with him in the locker room. That kind of stuff

545
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 3>is that is that that's got to be fun for.

546
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 4>You, yes it is. I mean we don't see it

547
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 4>coming from a great lineage of great people and in

548
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.160
<v Speaker 4>front of him and in his life. But Steve was

549
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 4>hanging around u c. L A went John Whitten and

550
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 4>his dad was taking him to those UCLA basketball games.

551
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 4>And you know, also after Ludelson's tea team with Steve,

552
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 4>And just to say that, you know, Steve and I

553
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 4>were roommates and teammates. I mean that's a great feeling

554
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 4>because people, even when I don't think about it, people

555
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 4>remind me that, hey, Steve Kirr with your roommate, you

556
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.680
<v Speaker 4>know how of that? And we got along really well.

557
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, I love Steve and Steve loves me. We

558
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.200
<v Speaker 4>talked to each other on the occasion, we text each other,

559
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 4>still giving each other, you know, uh, encouragement and messing

560
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Speaker 4>around with one another having fun.

561
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 2>So so this might be a dumb question, but who

562
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>gave a war? Do you know the answer to who

563
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>gave a loot? The most frustrating moments you were Tobert.

564
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh, there's no questioning its sober to no one is

565
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 4>number one. And I think in the history of ULA basketball.

566
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, if you can tell us something like that that

567
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:07.200
<v Speaker 3>he did that just absolutely made lose his mind. You know,

568
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 3>something that won't get you in trouble or anything like that.

569
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 3>But what when you talk about how crazy Tober was,

570
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>what kind of stuff were we talking about?

571
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, uh, you know I might be telling them Tom

572
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 4>right now, but you know, one year in pre season

573
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 4>consists me. We were supposed to be running the mall

574
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 4>and the mall was like one lap around the mall

575
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 4>was like like a mile or something like that, whatever

576
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 4>it was, but we have to run a couple of

577
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 4>times around the mall. So the first lap we read

578
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>and we had to oh main the fountain. Uh, and

579
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Tom jumped in the fountain and h in it until

580
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the second lap and then we had coach Thompson's got something.

581
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 4>And the second lap as we come around, Tom jumps

582
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 4>out of the fountain. He sent to the finish line

583
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 4>and he's sucking wet and Thompson was like me, some

584
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 4>you're working pro hark.

585
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that made the book, if you made the book.

586
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 3>So he didn't get busted. I mean he pulled it off.

587
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 4>He didn't. He pulled it off, you know, but then

588
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 4>he didn't really pull it off though. There were some

589
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>games where Tom wouldn't get back on defense, and coach

590
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 4>would just light into the just get lit into him

591
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 4>and be like he gets back on you know time

592
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 4>you need to get your fighting cares well. So that

593
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.720
<v Speaker 4>would just light him up when he wasn't working hard.

594
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that story has made the rounds a few

595
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>times because yeah, I think they sent a manager to

596
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>find him because and then he was so he was

597
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 2>so below the fountain that they couldn't see him.

598
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was on his head just enough to get

599
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>stuff and sit the air, and then he was completely

600
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 4>submerged in the Doro main fountain.

601
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 2>So so some of the in the books, some of

602
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the guys said that they dreaded practice because it was

603
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>difficult at times. How did you take practice?

604
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh, yeah, there were our days sometimes some days practices. Uh,

605
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 4>you know that there was gonna be a tough practice.

606
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 4>It depends on what sweatsuit. So tell we were. If

607
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 4>he were a sweet suit with the gray and it

608
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 4>was all like a kind of a cloth sweatsuit with

609
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 4>the gray center and the blue tram around it, you

610
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 4>knew we're gonna have a hell of a practice, is

611
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 4>gonna be long and hard. And then if you were

612
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 4>like his Uh, outther just all blue sweatsuit. We were

613
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna get out easy that day.

614
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think you've told the story before with us.

615
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember, but I know I've asked you a

616
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>few times about this.

617
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 11>Uh.

618
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>There was a quiz. What's the quiz about the quarter?

619
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

620
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

621
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I could pick a quarter up out of McMillan's Uh.

622
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 4>He had a Fort Mercury link and we would make

623
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 4>bets to get gas money. And then we have all

624
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 4>the guys around the cars like I got Jael can

625
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 4>pick up a quarter off the ground and guys would

626
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 4>put their money down and then pick the quarner up

627
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 4>and we had gas money for today.

628
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>That was reaching over the door, reaching over the door.

629
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Through the window.

630
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

631
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 4>I would be sitting inside the car and reach outside

632
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>the door and pick up the corner off the ground

633
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<v Speaker 4>and we get our gas money that.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, which means hit a long wingspan. I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>wings span. I had dinner on the road with you

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<v Speaker 3>guys a couple of times, and I remember the wing span.

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<v Speaker 3>You could reach across the table and pick something out

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<v Speaker 3>of somebody's plate without them even seeing you.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was all. Yeah, I wasn't the other one

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Coulk was another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, yeah, right, Well, what are your some of

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<v Speaker 2>your your greatest moments here? You know the final four

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<v Speaker 2>is one, but you know, personal.

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<v Speaker 4>The plasm. My greatest moment was just uh interaction with

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<v Speaker 4>the fans walking to mchel Center and see that stadium

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<v Speaker 4>packed with fans ready to tear us on to victory.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a personal uh great. And then also Steve uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, having my degree from the University of Arizona

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<v Speaker 4>too was a personal I don't call that my greatest subset.

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting getting my degree?

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. What did you get it in? What did

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<v Speaker 2>you get your degree in?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have a degree. I got a degree on sociology,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I got a minor in health, and now

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<v Speaker 4>I got my master's in educating me with a counseling credential,

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<v Speaker 4>and now I got a teaching credential, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just completing the admin's cindential right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So forty years ago or whatever long it's been, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>who would have ever thought Joe Turner would be teaching

660
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<v Speaker 2>your kids? How there's another Jay, No, you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>What would people think back in the day?

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<v Speaker 4>Now a Coto. I went and down for recommendation for

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<v Speaker 4>one of my first jobs, for one of my first

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<v Speaker 4>real jobs, and it was I was a pregnancy prevention

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<v Speaker 4>counselor at this uh at the place called Clinical Sierra Visa.

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<v Speaker 4>And they called Coachel and they was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Turner's interviewing for a job as a pregnancy prevention

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<v Speaker 4>uh counselor. You know, what can you tell us about him?

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<v Speaker 4>And Coach was like, Joe, Joe Turner, are we talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the same people?

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<v Speaker 2>Forgot it? Did you get the job?

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<v Speaker 4>I got the job?

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<v Speaker 3>That's too funny?

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<v Speaker 4>Opportunities, I made this money.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you teaching?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you teaching?

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<v Speaker 4>I teach right now? Uh. It's a program called Recycling

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<v Speaker 4>Lives and it's for the bag Still adult school, So

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00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 4>it's adults and we're teaching them to get back into

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<v Speaker 4>the work force. And it's a very hard to serve clients.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell that we're working with uh so we're living out

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<v Speaker 4>of jail and the long term out of work adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's very very uh it's very necessary here in Bakersville,

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<v Speaker 4>out of California.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, uh I know that we uh

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<v Speaker 2>uh maybe the story that probably gets told too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't mind saying it. Uh. So you're in

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<v Speaker 2>an elevator somewhere and an old couple, you know every

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of old now too. Yeah. You see, they

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<v Speaker 2>said we're going to some floor and what do you

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<v Speaker 2>tell them?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, I'm not I know where you guys just

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<v Speaker 4>came from. And they was like, how do you know that?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's sake that I have ESP.

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<v Speaker 2>And those old people they just love. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a six foot ten guy telling you jokes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you love it, said.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the time. I wasn't joking. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>the Actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh really, yeah that makes more sense. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>makes more sense. Okay, Joe, we'll see you tomorrow. Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh we'll see you all weekend, you and your guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete and everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Stam. I love you guys and looking forward

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<v Speaker 4>to uh imber you can spend it a great weekend

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<v Speaker 4>with all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, thank you, Joe, Thanks Joe, be well, Joe Turning. Yeah, fun,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a fun dude. Yeah, he is literally just a

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<v Speaker 2>fun dude. You imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>But you go to some class and the guy walk

712
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<v Speaker 3>your teacher walks in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's six ten, yeah, sixteen, Yeah, and just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know all you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>With hands like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you don't want to mess with them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good guy, that's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go come back talk to BS and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to the top of the hour for breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to trying the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>guys have any great memories of the mid eighties late

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<v Speaker 2>eighties on the run to the final four, give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call on many of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>You want one of the Joe Turner things that has

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<v Speaker 3>always come to mind when I when I think game.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a game and I remember who it was against,

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<v Speaker 3>where he gets the ball inside, tries to dunk it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't go in, pops up in the air. He

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<v Speaker 3>tries to dunk it again, still doesn't go in, pops

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<v Speaker 3>up in the air, and he gets another rebound and

767
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<v Speaker 3>throws it down, and Luke joked about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he had gotten on Joe to he needed rebound better,

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<v Speaker 3>so he created three rebounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Which which wouldn't be a surprise. There was another story,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I've said this a few times. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it made the book at two or two. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>So lou was poed at him one thing and he

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<v Speaker 2>missed the assignment of a of a of a of

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<v Speaker 2>a play important play. So at halftime he asked he

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<v Speaker 2>asked Joe to go to the to the chalkboard right

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<v Speaker 2>to the big white board and chalkboard at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and it was a massive chalkboard. So Joe

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, you know, kind of shy or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>went to the went to the huge chalkboard and drew

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<v Speaker 2>a little box like a two by two U of

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<v Speaker 2>paint and paint of the of the of the screw

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<v Speaker 2>two by two and he had a massive area where

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<v Speaker 2>you could just write a two by two by two,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did a two inch by two inch and

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<v Speaker 2>he did a real shot. Didn't kind of do much

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00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 2>and says, Joe, this is your You're just supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me where you're at. So he wrote a little

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<v Speaker 2>little box and then he put a little X. How

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<v Speaker 2>are we supposed to see this? And we supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>see this, Joe, You're supposed to be at this place.

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<v Speaker 2>So Joe was like, you know, and he didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know where he was supposed to be. He kept asking

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<v Speaker 2>for help. No one was going to give him help

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want to be in trouble with Luke

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<v Speaker 2>because because he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't know what the pride was.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know what the play was. And that probably

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't surprise you yeah, but he was exactly what they

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<v Speaker 2>needed in terms of a filler guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know he was because one he could come in,

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<v Speaker 3>he could play, but he was also a guy that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, knew his role and knew his role.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody loved him, you know, you could, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being on the road with those guys, you could kind

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<v Speaker 3>of see he was the guy that, while not the

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<v Speaker 3>captain or something like that, you know, away from the court,

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<v Speaker 3>he was the guy you could tell. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that the other players looked to to just kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, keep a vibe, you know, keep keep

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<v Speaker 3>exactly the levity of the group and not let any

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys take themselves too seriously. But yet you

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<v Speaker 3>could count on him when he came on the court, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Except for drawings and where you needed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we talked about his wingspan. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>I've told this story before, but the very first road

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<v Speaker 3>trip I took with those guys, well it was the first, no,

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<v Speaker 3>because I took one earlier, but we went to San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego State. It was like early in the season in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighty six eighty seventh season, so I'm brand new

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<v Speaker 3>to covering the team. And I got invited to go

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<v Speaker 3>to dinner with the team, and we went to remember

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony's Grotto, the place over there. So we go there

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm I'm at the end. So all the guys

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<v Speaker 3>are sitting and I'm I'm the last seat. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>really one It was really long tables, and I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, and all of a sudden, I look to

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<v Speaker 3>my right and Joe turners on the same side of

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<v Speaker 3>the table as I am, and I see this arm

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<v Speaker 3>come across and reached past two guys to get into

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<v Speaker 3>another guy's plate.

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<v Speaker 2>So this arm comes.

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<v Speaker 3>Across it and then this big giant hand and take something

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<v Speaker 3>from somebody's plate, and I'm like, Who's I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>tell whose arm it was because it came from so

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<v Speaker 3>far away, and you know, he's picking something out of

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<v Speaker 3>one of the other guy's.

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<v Speaker 2>Plate when he was nineteen twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was I'm like, it was

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<v Speaker 3>for somebody, who's you know. The tallest guy I knew

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<v Speaker 3>at the time was my brother was five eleven, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was fascinating me just how different a

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<v Speaker 3>world those guys lived in because of you know, what

844
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 3>it was like for them to get on an airplane,

845
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 3>what it was like for them to walk around a

846
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 3>hotel and stuff like that.

847
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, do you remember when you were nineteen nineteen, twenty

848
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>years old? Yeah, Ben, how was it?

849
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like that, that's my point. Yeah point, Yeah,

850
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 3>you're not still going to drive in movies. I had

851
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 3>a you know, I had a part time job at

852
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 3>the newspaper, going to high school football games that kind

853
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

854
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I was in school. The funny thing about it,

855
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's saying it's good to be a

856
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>quarterback or football beeral blah blah blah. It's good to

857
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 2>be an athlete back in the days. Uh we you know,

858
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 2>you were a star, whether they're paying you or not

859
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. You had pretty girls.

860
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Well that was you know, this team, you know that

861
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 3>when I first started covering, they hadn't gotten to the

862
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>final four anything like that, right, they'd want to pack

863
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 3>up championship, packed in championship. But they were celebrities in

864
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 3>this town already, you know, even though the program hadn't

865
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>become what it became. But they would walk you know,

866
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 3>they'd walk around you know. Uh, I mean I remember

867
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 3>being on campus and seeing one of those guys, the

868
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 3>people following them, you know, and you go, that's different, right,

869
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 3>that's you know, And and then and them also kind

870
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 3>of doing things to maybe avoid being in the you know,

871
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the spotlight, you know.

872
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh again.

873
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I remember having a conversation with Sean Elliott and talking

874
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 3>about how you know, it was for him to go

875
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 3>to a restaurant, right, you know, I met him at

876
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 3>his dorm and to do this, I want to do

877
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>this long anyway, spend an evening with him basically, and

878
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 3>they said, hey, you want to go get something? He said, yeah,

879
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 3>but can we bring it back? Right, because he didn't

880
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>want to go sit in a restaurant. And we went

881
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 3>and got a pizza and we took it back and

882
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 3>and that kind of stuff that they had to deal

883
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 3>with as kids.

884
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the things that he says, shot and

885
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>told me, says, I had to learn how to say no, yeah,

886
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 2>because everyone was asking him to do stuff. And that's

887
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of one of the reasons why you kind of

888
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>saw him disappeared for a while, Yeah, because he he

889
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>was tired of it. And then he got married, got remarried,

890
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and his wife kind of kind of took care of

891
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 2>his schedule to be out of the limelight. You know,

892
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>he was no longer playing. Now he's doing the TV work,

893
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and it was more upsettled down. And then he had

894
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 2>his his his uh, his kidney issues, kidney right and

895
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 2>other and other things, and just to kind of make

896
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 2>sure he slowed down a little.

897
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know again, when you when you think about

898
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 3>you know that that that the prom was just beginning

899
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 3>to rise. And yet these here are these guys and

900
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 3>they're you know, there's stars in their own town and

901
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 3>and the and their kids, you know, and and I

902
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 3>remember that again. I think I've told the story too

903
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 3>that you know, the conversation I had with him that

904
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>night when you know, he said, he said, can we

905
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 3>took off the record? And I said, yeah, he goes

906
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 3>it was, do you think I should do you think

907
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I should go.

908
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>To the raft?

909
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, John, I think you need to do

910
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 3>what you think is right for you. But what doll

911
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the fans think? I said, you shouldn't give a crap

912
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 3>about what the fans think. But he was concerned about that, right,

913
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, because he knew that a lot of what

914
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 3>he was was because of how the fans felt.

915
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>But I you know.

916
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 3>I I told him, I said, don't you know you

917
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:39.760
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't give a crap about what the fans.

918
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, listen to your mom.

919
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's why he stayed another year.

920
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>But part of the part of that is I think

921
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that during the wood we've got a call. Okay, take

922
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 2>this call.

923
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh you got lost him, go ahead and call callback.

924
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that, be paying attention. He was was just

925
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>too late to it. So it was that alluding him

926
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 2>went to an awards thing and I'd been the wooden

927
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>where he didn't win it, when the year he did

928
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>win it, and they went to a game, an NBA game,

929
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and purposely had him sit under a basket, under one

930
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of the baskets right, and guess what he saw. Those

931
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 2>dudes were big and they were tough and they were physical.

932
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And Luke says to him, are you ready for this?

933
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going back to shool, going back to school because

934
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not ready. You know, he's a skinny kid. Yeah,

935
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 2>he was, all right, let's take this. Hi, you're on

936
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the air and eye on the ball.

937
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 12>Hey, guys, what's up this Vic?

938
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 15>Vic?

939
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

940
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 12>So have it tATu. My one of my best memories

941
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 12>of those guys. It was eighty nine the pack twelvel

942
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 12>Turn or packed can or whatever it was called. Was

943
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 12>that the Forum and they had just won the title.

944
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 12>And uh, we're going down Manchester and its back in

945
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 12>the days when you could ride in the back of

946
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 12>us truck. So I'm driving my little truck and the

947
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 12>guy that's in the back, Hey, that's Sean Elliot. I said,

948
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 12>shut up, you see him going to other away? He goes, no,

949
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 12>I'll make a U turn, Make a U turn. So

950
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 12>I make a U turn, and I pull into a

951
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 12>Wendy's and shun up. Sean and his girlfriend are getting

952
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 12>out to go have a burger, so I have to.

953
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 4>Pull the old.

954
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.480
<v Speaker 12>Hey Sean, I hate to bother.

955
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>You, but but I'm going to bother you.

956
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 12>So he's gracious talks to us. We all take a

957
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 12>picture with him, and and I still have it hanging

958
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 12>in my house. But that's forward another year later. He's

959
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 12>already in the pros and we're like at a nightclub

960
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.320
<v Speaker 12>right here on twenty second and will mind, I can't

961
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 12>remember the name of it. And he then so my

962
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.760
<v Speaker 12>my cousin goes up and says, hey, Sean, do you

963
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 12>remember me? I met you at Jack in the Box

964
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 12>and he goes, dude, it was Wendy's bro.

965
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:51.639
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. Yeah.

966
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, so that was that was one of my best

967
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 12>memory out of telling you. I still have that picture hanging.

968
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna teach you and say, see you

969
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 2>were taking help. He's way back in.

970
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 3>The day, exactly exactly. But that those guys were like

971
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.119
<v Speaker 3>that though, right they I think they feel like they understood,

972
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 3>they understood how important they were to other people in

973
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 3>this town. And while sometimes it was hard for them,

974
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 3>they would do those things.

975
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 12>Wow, I'll tell you what. That's still that team when

976
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 12>they lost at UNLV deal, that still brought tears in

977
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 12>my eyes the time I ever cried.

978
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Were you were you a student at Ubay or did

979
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you just okay, were you living in LA at the time.

980
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 12>I was living in l A at the time.

981
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right, all right, you're everywhere, You're anywhere,

982
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 2>all right, you guys? Ok, thank you? Vic? Say did

983
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 2>you see I don't you mentioned something about home runs yesterday?

984
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>But did you see the Mexico victory with the home run?

985
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And then there was a kid, yeah, and there was

986
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 2>another one before him, the big husky kid. Yeah, home

987
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>runs yesterday like crazy.

988
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw I saw that. I saw the highlight

989
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 3>of the of the walk off by the kid from

990
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Mexico against Cuba. Yeah, because we were talking about that

991
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 3>game during.

992
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, because Cuba had a pretty good wae. Yeah.

993
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 3>So now no, I you know, going back to Shanelle,

994
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 3>I know it's probably not breaking easting, but I don't

995
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 3>know if you saw that. Bill Land, the guy who's

996
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 3>been the play by play voice that shot shown Elliott

997
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>has worked with on on on radio for the for

998
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>the Spurs.

999
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Is retiring. Oh okay, yeah, and he said that.

1000
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 3>Shown posted about you know how much he enjoyed working.

1001
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 2>With Sure it was gonna see a long time one

1002
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 2>years Sean's been doing that. Yeah. So Sean's about fifty

1003
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>eight two, right, so he was about thirty seven fifty seven,

1004
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe a year younger than Turner. Okay, yeah, because cursed fifty.

1005
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Eight Yeah, yeah, because that Elliott was a junior when

1006
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Joe and and and Steve Kerr were senior.

1007
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>So he's probably a year younger. And those are the

1008
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>those were the really good old days. Yeah, when things

1009
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 2>were different, but just fun, you.

1010
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Know, it was it was all just fun. I don't

1011
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 3>feel like people took themselves as seriously about basketball as

1012
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 3>they do now. It's not life. It wasn't life and death.

1013
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Back then. People were just having fun watching these guys

1014
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>win and it was good.

1015
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And I know you can't. I know you

1016
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>can't and you can't and I can't publicly say this

1017
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's not true or true. Your first born is

1018
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>very special in a way. Yeah, that was there was

1019
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 2>that was Arizona's first born.

1020
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's funny is just say that because you know, uh,

1021
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 3>when uh, coming back from Kansas City after they lost

1022
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>in that Final four, when I got before I got

1023
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 3>on the plane, they told me that they wanted me

1024
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 3>to write then we're doing a special section at the start,

1025
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 3>doing a special section on the team, and they wanted

1026
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>me to write a lead into it. Then they were

1027
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>just going to kind of put it rerun articles like that,

1028
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And that was exactly what I led with. He said,

1029
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And I can't think of the wording, but I do

1030
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 3>remember that that Dana Cooper put it on at the

1031
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 3>end of the video that he did on that team.

1032
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 3>But I said that, I said, they may come to

1033
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 3>go to more final fours, but there's never going to

1034
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 3>be one more special than this one because it was

1035
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:11.079
<v Speaker 3>the first one.

1036
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you're right, even though they had a national

1037
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>tit with a national better team, it's hard. It's hard

1038
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>to top the first time.

1039
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 3>And then that that was exactly that.

1040
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>That that was what came into my head.

1041
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Somebody who grew up here like the first time you go,

1042
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>like like I thought there was going to be a

1043
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>first time for a Rose.

1044
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Bowl a long time ago. Yeah, I ask you about that.

1045
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's take this.

1046
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 2>How you're on the air and eye on the ball.

1047
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 15>How's it going today?

1048
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought, Brian, you got about a minute and a half.

1049
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 15>Okay, just about a story that back in the in

1050
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 15>the chant in the final four year back in my

1051
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 15>old job before he retired, delivering mail. I got to

1052
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 15>deliver where Steve Kerr and John Elliott lived, which is

1053
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 15>where uh back on Tyndall.

1054
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're near in school.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, yeah yeah, but two of the nicest people you

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<v Speaker 15>ever meet in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The funny thing is, I think I've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this before, uh just maybe a month ago. Says what's

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<v Speaker 2>the different what makes the players different? And from being

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<v Speaker 2>meaner or nicer? And it was not even a question

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<v Speaker 2>the parents.

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<v Speaker 15>If you have social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no social media, but if your parents are good people,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be a good person because you have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you've learned from them, right.

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<v Speaker 15>And also to plus the social media, the money involved,

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<v Speaker 15>just it's just not sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore, right, right, Bill? You know I say this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I'm not a sports fan and and people

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<v Speaker 2>know why. But now that it's become all about what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said, Bill, social media, money and change, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry the changes and all that, it's just even

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<v Speaker 2>harder for me.

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<v Speaker 4>They make it hard to watch sports now, you know.

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<v Speaker 15>And I you know, and I you know, I'm it,

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<v Speaker 15>but still exactly, you know, hard to sit there and

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<v Speaker 15>go when all you all you all these college players

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<v Speaker 15>care about is the money.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 15>And and I think what Gundy said the other day,

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<v Speaker 15>the guy from Oklahoma State, Yeah, it's time to practice.

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<v Speaker 15>The nil stuff is over right, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, no, perfect, We talked about that. Yeah, Brian, thanks man, Okay, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks about take care.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's right, and we have the conversation about what

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<v Speaker 3>Gundy said, which is right. At some point he's got

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a start thinking about football.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, March you talked to me, or after the season,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have yours right now is my time? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Spacoli thing, your time and time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he goes in order to peek right

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<v Speaker 3>in his time. All right, Hey, that was good. All Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna take our break. We're gonna come.

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<v Speaker 2>Back breaking news, Henry.

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<v Speaker 3>Henry's got breaking news, and uh we'll cover some stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and then, uh we've got Mike Andre coming up at

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<v Speaker 3>about four twenty, so stick around.