Speaker 1: Then we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peete on a
Speaker 1: five to seventy LA Sports. Uh, just a two hour
Speaker 1: show today. Because the Dodgers up in Colorado taking on
Speaker 1: the Rockies. Yamamoto will take the hill tonight for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: I like their chances, you do. I like the Dodgers
Speaker 1: chances with Yamamoto pitching too. I do too, Yamamoto or
Speaker 1: as any pitcher doesn't like pitching in Colorado. But I
Speaker 1: think they'll be okay. Yeah, I do too, I do too.
Speaker 1: And my god, I mean, you have you know, babe
Speaker 1: Ruth Michael Conforto on the team now, so everything's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. Ready, Hey, he's out of that, babe, I
Speaker 1: don't care. He's out. He's back, He's back. We'll find
Speaker 1: out how far back he is tonight. All right, NBA
Speaker 1: Draft Tonight, Lakers have a second round pick, Clippers late
Speaker 1: first and second as well.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Lakers got a second round pick. Well, let's
Speaker 2: get let's get excited about that.
Speaker 1: Listen, they already took Brownie in the second round last year,
Speaker 1: so there's no reason to get excited about a second
Speaker 1: round pick this year.
Speaker 2: Second round has got to be the most important pick.
Speaker 2: It's so important that second round pick. Let's not let's
Speaker 2: not downplay the second round pick. Now, No, that's that
Speaker 2: everybody said last year, you can't waste that second round pick.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, let's make it a break. You know that?
Speaker 3: M h. You know you know how they roll?
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Uh, they announced today in somewhat
Speaker 1: of official capacity, but just to get it on the record. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Laker deal mark Walter buying it from the Bus family,
Speaker 1: expected to close third or fourth quarter of this year,
Speaker 1: which means soon soon. Genie Buss will remain governor of
Speaker 1: the team and continue to oversee all team operations on
Speaker 1: a day to day basis for the first sate future.
Speaker 1: How long you think that lasts? Well, that's what we
Speaker 1: have to fine the foreseeable future. Mark Cuban thought he
Speaker 1: was going to oversee basketball operations for the Mavericks. He
Speaker 1: was more surprised than anybody when all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: looking was traded. So I didn't even know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was going to stay on right and run
Speaker 2: to and run it for a period of time. And
Speaker 2: that period of time lasted very short. But you got
Speaker 2: to believe that that you know, and we know how
Speaker 2: Mark Walter and and the Guggenheim guys coming in, and
Speaker 2: we know how they operate. They come in and you
Speaker 2: know there's going to be a period of time where
Speaker 2: they want to keep some continuity, but at some point
Speaker 2: they're going to put their own stamp on on whatever
Speaker 2: situation they have. They did it with the Dodgers, and
Speaker 2: you look, Ned Colletti was there, our good friend Ned
Speaker 2: Colletti with the Dodgers for a minute, and then they
Speaker 2: they came in and embraced the overhauled the whole front office.
Speaker 3: Remember Andrew Friedman and everybody else.
Speaker 1: Remember when Donald Sterling sold the Clippers, was forced to
Speaker 1: sell the Clippers. You know, we have the distinct honor
Speaker 1: of living in a city where two of the major
Speaker 1: league franchises, two of the professional franchises were forced to
Speaker 1: be sold, the Dodgers and the Clippers. That's pretty impressive record.
Speaker 3: We got two.
Speaker 1: Talk about ownership, we got two. They just forced Donald Sterling.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Frank McCourt and Donald Sterling both
Speaker 1: said the same thing. You can't tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me no when they don't want to,
Speaker 1: they don't want it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple, but what they did find out is
Speaker 2: that you can maybe force me out, but you can't
Speaker 2: tell me who I'm going to sell to.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that was true. They did learn that.
Speaker 1: Frank McCourt taught them that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so when the Clippers were sold to Steve Balmer,
Speaker 1: I remember and I just thought to myself, all right,
Speaker 1: the absurdity of the whole story. You know, Donald Sterling's wife, Shalley,
Speaker 1: she didn't do it anything wrong, She really didn't, by
Speaker 1: all accounts. She was very nice. I'd met her, she
Speaker 1: was very nice. But they were so embarrassed, so embarrassed,
Speaker 1: and the Clippers at that point was the identity of
Speaker 1: Donald Sterling. So in the agreement, I remember, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Clippers had to designate Shelley Sterling as their number one fan.
Speaker 1: That's what she would be called, their number one fan,
Speaker 1: number one fan, they had to call her that, right,
Speaker 1: And I think she still got a couple of seats
Speaker 1: on the court, I think, but she had to be
Speaker 1: designated the number one fan for her. It was great
Speaker 1: at the moment, it meant something, and fifteen minutes later
Speaker 1: it meant nothing. It meant absolutely nothing. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two billion, but this you got to call me number
Speaker 1: one fan. Okay, we'll write that right in.
Speaker 3: Think about that. They sold.
Speaker 2: For two billion Steve Bomber Paig and at that time
Speaker 2: people were going nuts, what in the world are you
Speaker 2: doing paying two billion dollars? Same thing with the with
Speaker 2: the googenheym and Mark Walter when he bought the Dodgers
Speaker 2: two billion dollars, two billion dollars for the Clippers. Man,
Speaker 2: he's drastically overpaid. And here we are less than a decade. Right,
Speaker 2: it's been less than a decade, right, And when did
Speaker 2: the Clipper sell?
Speaker 3: Was it ten years?
Speaker 2: Ten years that were at ten billion dollars for a franchise?
Speaker 1: Well, see, that was short sighted. That was short sided
Speaker 1: when people thought he overpaid. But Dodgers, my god, Googleheid
Speaker 1: that that was the one that blew everybody away out
Speaker 1: two billion base dollars.
Speaker 3: Baseball was not drawing in those numbers.
Speaker 2: People weren't paying that for baseball, not even close at
Speaker 2: that time, and people were going, oh, my god, that's
Speaker 2: highway robbery.
Speaker 3: See, but there's a difference.
Speaker 1: It's a difference if you and I get five guys
Speaker 1: together and scrape up enough money to buy a team
Speaker 1: compared yeah, I have I control like sixty billion dollars,
Speaker 1: so I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna get it. I'm gonna get it. A change out
Speaker 2: of the couch and yeah, I'm fine here. Those guys
Speaker 2: are in it for the long haul. Oh yeah, not
Speaker 2: the mom and pop shops. They saw this happening when
Speaker 2: they bought the team. They were not looking at it.
Speaker 2: Oh this is cool. We bought Uh, we bought the
Speaker 2: Dodgers majorlygue franchise.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: No, they had the stadium renovation, they had everything in
Speaker 2: place before they bought that team, and when they bought it,
Speaker 2: they had all of these ideas and what they wanted
Speaker 2: to do. They were looking at Japan eight ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Fred they were they were trying to make that happen.
Speaker 2: They saw the future, and which is why they're in
Speaker 2: that position where they are. It's because they can see
Speaker 2: the value and where trends are going. And they made
Speaker 2: the right decision obviously, as did Steve Balmer. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was funny with people the Dodgers sold today. What do
Speaker 2: you think somebody would have to pay for the Dodgers
Speaker 2: today if Mark Walters said, look, I'm ready to sell
Speaker 2: this team.
Speaker 1: At least ten, at least ten, right, at least ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least ten. And somebody that has the ability to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money at the end of the
Speaker 1: whole deal to Payotani. Yeah, because they got to Payotoni
Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think I got Otani for another eight nine years,
Speaker 2: So that means I've got that amount of time. And
Speaker 2: then afterwards, because he's gonna be forever a Dodger, that
Speaker 2: you're gonna market in Asia. You're gonna market in Japan
Speaker 2: and all over Asia. So now what does that worth
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 1: Steve Balmer? Everybody thought, you know, go to Seattle, get
Speaker 1: the Clippers out of here. Go back to Seattle. They
Speaker 1: want a team. You're from there. It'll be great. No way,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up the La market. No, I'll
Speaker 1: pay two billion to be here, not a problem. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be right here. I might live in Seattle, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right here for every game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be with you, guys. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: It reminds you of that it's the movie Heaven can Wait.
Speaker 2: Remember that movie Heaven can Wait? The original Heaven can Wait?
Speaker 2: With Warren Baby and he was a rich guy that
Speaker 2: they died tragically, but they took him too soon, and
Speaker 2: he came back to life and they were trying to
Speaker 2: find a body for him, and he turned out that
Speaker 2: he was a billionaire that owned the Rams or bought
Speaker 2: the Rams, and the one scene in there were the
Speaker 2: current owner of the Rams before he bought him because
Speaker 2: he was a football player.
Speaker 3: The guy that died.
Speaker 2: Said that, son of a bitch, I asked for nineteen
Speaker 2: million and he said, okay, like I asked this, you know,
Speaker 2: astronomical amount and he said, no problem. And that's what
Speaker 2: Steve Baumber did you know? Sterling said, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 2: for two billion dollars.
Speaker 3: There's no way.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you want me to wire that money to
Speaker 1: your account right now?
Speaker 3: How do you want it? Yeah? How do you want it?
Speaker 3: You want to and cash? You catch your check? What
Speaker 3: do you want it? Just tell me we'll take care
Speaker 3: of it immediately. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So Shelley Sterling in the in the Donald Sterling Clippers
Speaker 1: was designated number one fan. Okay, so now we have
Speaker 1: Genie buss Uh And of course they said the right things.
Speaker 1: You know, Genie wanted someone that would continue the tradition
Speaker 1: and be in the community. Well, of course, that was
Speaker 1: a very nice thing for her to say, and apparently
Speaker 1: she and Mark Walter are friends, so that was the
Speaker 1: right thing to say. But then we're gonna do that anyway.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna do it. If they had sold this
Speaker 1: team to somebody from out of town, I think what
Speaker 1: Genie Buss says would have meant more. Well, we really
Speaker 1: wanted somebody involved in the community that would continue on
Speaker 1: the legacy and you know, take care of the franchise.
Speaker 3: It's the Dodger.
Speaker 1: Guys, so everybody knows they're gonna do it. Those words,
Speaker 1: I get it, but you don't really need to say
Speaker 1: it because where you know, there's proof of performance. We
Speaker 1: already see what they're going to do. So she stays
Speaker 1: on and she's gonna run day to day operations. So
Speaker 1: then you have to wonder to yourself, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: What does it mean if she's running day to day operations?
Speaker 1: Is she running basketball operations? Is she running business operations?
Speaker 1: What is she running? Is she running the Lakers? Because
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think if decisions are made
Speaker 1: and things have to be decided, they're going to consult
Speaker 1: with Mark Walter. I don't think Genie's going to operate
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. She's got it. It's hers go get
Speaker 1: them team. I don't think that's gonna happen. And I
Speaker 1: think what you will see in a period of time,
Speaker 1: as you did with the Dodgers, they'll start moving people in,
Speaker 1: They'll start assuming some of the roles there, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they keep everybody. And I've said this before,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I mean, stand cast and ran
Speaker 1: the Hawks and the Braves for Ted Turner, So could
Speaker 1: he be running this.
Speaker 3: He's running the.
Speaker 1: Hockey team that Mark Walter started, the hockey league. But
Speaker 1: maybe he will be overseeing both from a business perspective,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, and as things fans don't
Speaker 1: think about, it really makes sense. You don't need two
Speaker 1: sets of people operating the franchises from a business perspective,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, just think about this,
Speaker 1: Jacob and Ronnie. Jacob and Ronnie is a partner of
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Okay, now with the Dodger's running it, Jacob,
Speaker 1: I got even better news for you. Couldn't this is
Speaker 1: your best day?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Well, tell me you're all still going to be able
Speaker 1: to pay for the Dodgers. Now you can be both
Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium and at Crypto dot Com arena.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that make your day? Doesn't that make you happy? Now?
Speaker 3: We just took care of.
Speaker 2: It, done that anyway you could have.
Speaker 1: But now it's different when these guys are selling everything,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's different.
Speaker 2: Rodneys, You know that, No, if he wanted to be
Speaker 2: he wanted to be a sponsor of the Dodgers, he
Speaker 2: could be a sponsor of the Dodgers. He didn't take
Speaker 2: Googenheim to buy the Lakers for or the Dodgers and
Speaker 2: the Lakers for that. It could be either one. But
Speaker 2: they're going to do business differently, and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: amount of time, you know what what what happens. You know,
Speaker 2: certainly you got to get the day to day folks
Speaker 2: have to you know, be dedicated to to one side.
Speaker 2: But when you're yeah, when you're talking about you know,
Speaker 2: the president and and the higher ups right of the company,
Speaker 2: the actual entity that that owns all the sports franchises
Speaker 2: like a stand cast, and that appoints different people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Stan can run them both and run the whole sports entities.
Speaker 2: But there will be day to day guys that he hires,
Speaker 2: much like you know, brought in Andrew Friedman and the
Speaker 2: different people that he brought in for the Dodgers. He'll
Speaker 2: do the same thing for the Lakers at some point
Speaker 2: and it's just a matter of time before they you know,
Speaker 2: we see something happening with the with the Lakers. The
Speaker 2: question is, you know, where's Rob Palinka's head right now, right.
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: Where where does he stand right now? What is his
Speaker 2: what is his future looking like?
Speaker 1: Well, he stands right now where he is that we
Speaker 1: do know. But if you just look at the model
Speaker 1: the Dodgers used, he's there this year. But see what happens.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see him revamp that. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, And maybe it's only because and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this.
Speaker 2: Ye, that's no disrespect to Rob a Lincoln. But when
Speaker 2: as a team, they're gonna want to put their own people,
Speaker 2: and we just talked about it. You know, Nick coleedti
Speaker 2: as good as it gets, good as it gets, and
Speaker 2: and ran several you know, clubs have four been in
Speaker 2: the business for a long long time. They didn't do
Speaker 2: anything wrong. But when somebody buys a team, they're going
Speaker 2: to want to put their own people in and they
Speaker 2: have their own ideas about it. So that's just the
Speaker 2: way business works.
Speaker 1: And maybe with a renewed investment in the business, Rob
Speaker 1: Polink and suddenly becomes a much better general manager, and
Speaker 1: maybe he won't be in every camera shot anymore. That
Speaker 1: you see at every game you turn around, Rob polink
Speaker 1: is sitting there. You turn around, He's standing behind you.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy on camera Moore as a
Speaker 1: general manager at games. At Rob Polinka, He's everywhere. He's
Speaker 1: invisible that he appears. He just shows up. You don't
Speaker 1: know how he got there. And then the attorney's standing
Speaker 1: over there everywhere. Maybe if they have increased resources, build
Speaker 1: up the front office a little bit, Rob Polinka turns
Speaker 1: out to be a pretty good GM. Maybe he does.
Speaker 1: But given the way the Dodgers have operated and Andrew
Speaker 1: Friedman coming in with a model that works, you would
Speaker 1: believe that that's the kind of thing they would do.
Speaker 1: Who in basketball creates that model for them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, see Sam Prizy, somebody like that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right who That's kind of how they operate, right,
Speaker 1: there's that. And now let me ask you this, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's only because of the Dodger guys. I mean
Speaker 1: the Lakers being sold in the Bus Family's meant so
Speaker 1: much to everyone in this community, and they've done so
Speaker 1: much for the people of Los Angeles and for many
Speaker 1: they provided back in the days of the Forum, the
Speaker 1: most memorable sports nights of anyone's life, because not only
Speaker 1: did you go to the game, you hung out at
Speaker 1: the Forum and it was a place to be. So really,
Speaker 1: there should be a morning period here and when it
Speaker 1: first happened, we discussed that on the air, but there
Speaker 1: should be you know, wow, wow, oh my god, part
Speaker 1: of my history growing up here.
Speaker 3: It's just gone.
Speaker 1: But the thing is because it's Mark Walter and the
Speaker 1: Dodger guys. Yeah, I don't think there's any morning at all.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, this.
Speaker 2: Is great, this is fantastic, this is the best. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And let's get to it's not it's not an outsider
Speaker 2: coming in somebody from the East Coast coming in to
Speaker 2: run the Lakers or buy the Lakers and put their
Speaker 2: own state. No, it's somebody that has had that has
Speaker 2: a track record of doing it right in LA that
Speaker 2: everybody loves in La and because the success and what
Speaker 2: they've done with the Dodgers. When they when it came
Speaker 2: out that they bought the Lakers, you were like, oh, yes, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. No, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's because it feels like it's one of our own
Speaker 2: because of what they did with the Dodgers and the
Speaker 2: group that they have with the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: It's one of our own, you know.
Speaker 2: It's not an outsider really coming in and taking over
Speaker 2: and and and buying a there are.
Speaker 3: Franchise the Lakers.
Speaker 2: It is one of our own, local guys, even though
Speaker 2: they're not local. It's not local guys taking over the Lakers.
Speaker 2: So it feels good. It's a feel good moment.
Speaker 1: But it's really odd because everybody should have taken a
Speaker 1: step back and gone, wow, wow, the bus Family is
Speaker 1: not only the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Everybody should have done that. It was immediate.
Speaker 1: It's like, when can these guys from the Dodgers get
Speaker 1: in there? When does it start?
Speaker 3: And it's so.
Speaker 1: Different because the Bus family did so much for sports
Speaker 1: in this city, all of them, especially Genie obviously, who
Speaker 1: everybody loves.
Speaker 3: But it was like, is this real? Yeah, Okay, boom,
Speaker 3: can they start tomorrow? Right?
Speaker 1: There was no all wow, let's look back, none of that.
Speaker 1: It's like, let's go, let's go. So, in a very
Speaker 1: roundabout way, what does the foreseeable future mean for Jeannie
Speaker 1: with the day to day operation of the club? I
Speaker 1: guess no clue an understanding. She and Mark Walter are
Speaker 1: friends at the very least Rodney this year, at the
Speaker 1: very least this year. They go through the season, then
Speaker 1: I think, do you think I'm wrong?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I mean no, you're not wrong, because first of all,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be ratified until the fall anyway.
Speaker 3: So the season is start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the season will already be started. So they're gonna
Speaker 2: they're gonna sit back and let it happen.
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's like anything Stan.
Speaker 2: Kronkey coming back to La is gonna They're gonna sit
Speaker 2: back and just let it happen, assess the situation and go, okay,
Speaker 2: now we've got.
Speaker 3: To make some changes. Right now, We've got to make
Speaker 3: some changes right all right?
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what, we still have to talk about
Speaker 1: getting rid of the NBA draft. They try to give
Speaker 1: it the hoop law of the NFL draft, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen, that doesn't really happen.
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Speaker 2: Yes we are back, Roger Pete Fred Rogan on a
Speaker 2: home day. Yeah, a beautiful Wednesday, Southern California. Yeah, Freddie,
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful day. I'm watching these Uh, you know
Speaker 2: around the around Major League Baseball? Is it me or
Speaker 2: is it? MLB has made a resurgence. It's a little
Speaker 2: bit of a renaissance for MLB. Their popularity has gotten
Speaker 2: a lot greater over the last couple of years because
Speaker 2: at a point it was dying a little bit. And
Speaker 2: I think that they they've done something, Fred to create
Speaker 2: the popularity where it is now, where more and more
Speaker 2: people are not only going to games, but they're watching
Speaker 2: games on TV.
Speaker 1: MLB network is great. It is, it is it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have cable anymore, but if
Speaker 1: you have cable, make sure you check out MLB Network.
Speaker 1: They do a terrific job. And Baseball adjusted made some
Speaker 1: made some corrections. Uh, bases a little bigger. Let's get
Speaker 1: rid of the shift, put a pitch clock in, all
Speaker 1: those things that everybody complained about. And you say, what
Speaker 1: is that gonna do? What does that mean? Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Even having somebody start on second base
Speaker 1: and extra innings that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: What does it do?
Speaker 1: Game is faster, game is more urgent, not as much time.
Speaker 1: A laver comes in, he's got to phase three guys. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: just think of what they did.
Speaker 3: Little things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it seemed like, why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: But if you looked at the totality of all of
Speaker 1: their decisions, it was to make it faster, urgent. Anything
Speaker 1: can happen. You got two and a half, you know,
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes, boom, inning's over.
Speaker 3: And go to the dugout.
Speaker 2: They started to embrace the person. Remember before it was like,
Speaker 2: you play the game the right way. You got to
Speaker 2: do this the right way.
Speaker 3: And you know, we don't.
Speaker 2: You know, it's about the name on the front, not
Speaker 2: the name on the back and all those things. But
Speaker 2: there seems like there's more promotion of the Aaron Judges, Otani's,
Speaker 2: the Bryce Harper's and you know, Manny Machado's and individual tattis.
Speaker 2: They're allowing for the individuality of these players to come
Speaker 2: out like the other sports, like in basketball and the
Speaker 2: NBA and like in football. They've been able to do
Speaker 2: that where they were so rigid in the past of
Speaker 2: just play the game, it doesn't matter, We're not going
Speaker 2: to promote our stars, and they're starting to do that more.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, these stars are from a different generation.
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. Yeah, right, they grew up differently.
Speaker 1: They are more into social media, they are more into
Speaker 1: those types of things. So it's also a symptom of society.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the NBA draft tonight. We know
Speaker 1: Cooper Flagger going number one to Dallas all right done,
Speaker 1: and we know that seemed a bit questionable that they
Speaker 1: lose a look at Danchic. Everybody wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: run Nico Harrison out of town, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they have the first pick.
Speaker 3: That's how it worked out. No funny business.
Speaker 1: David Aldridge wrote a great piece and we talked about this.
Speaker 1: You know, the draft really is obsolete. The draft is obsolete.
Speaker 1: You finished last, you get the first pick. That should
Speaker 1: be that's wrong. You don't get rewarded for being bad
Speaker 1: right off the bat. You should not be rewarded. You're terrible.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it fair. No, you're terrible. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: We're not making it fair. But David Aldridge wrote this
Speaker 1: piece and I really liked it, you know, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about this in the past. Here's what he thinks.
Speaker 1: There's no draft, no draft at all tonight. What would
Speaker 1: happen is the players in the top tier. And what
Speaker 1: would happen is players coming out that were eligible would
Speaker 1: go into three different tiers one, two, three. All right,
Speaker 1: So for example, this year, Cooper Flag, that group is
Speaker 1: in group one, and there are so many players in
Speaker 1: Group one, then there are players in group two, players
Speaker 1: in Group three. After group three, it's a free for all.
Speaker 1: It's a free for all.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? The players can go wherever they want?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Free for all?
Speaker 1: And in this model, the players can go wherever they
Speaker 1: want as well.
Speaker 3: So here's the way it works outside of group three. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is how it works. Okay, break it down.
Speaker 1: The players outside of group for three aren't an anty group.
Speaker 1: They're just do whatever you want. You can sign with anybody,
Speaker 1: just like it is now, right, if you don't get your.
Speaker 2: Free agent, yeah, you don't get drafted, you go anywhere
Speaker 2: you want to go, right, all right, But for the top.
Speaker 1: Player, here's the way it works. There's somebody in the
Speaker 1: top group, Cooper Flagg. He's obviously the number one pick
Speaker 1: in this draft. According to his model, he's going to
Speaker 1: pick where he goes. He could go to Boston, he
Speaker 1: could go to the Lakers, he could go to Dallas.
Speaker 1: He can go wherever he wants. So then why would
Speaker 1: he pick a place I don't know. Maybe he's from there,
Speaker 1: Maybe he likes the city, Maybe he's impressed with the facilities,
Speaker 1: maybe he's impressed with the way they take care of
Speaker 1: their players. Maybe he wants to go to a place
Speaker 1: that has a winning history. He can go wherever he wants. So,
Speaker 1: once you've signed one player from Group one, you cannot
Speaker 1: sign another Group one player for two years. So when
Speaker 1: you go out and get the big fish, you can't
Speaker 1: catch the big one again for two years. There is
Speaker 1: a limit to how many times you can do it. So, okay,
Speaker 1: so now we're going to start to regulate that. So
Speaker 1: nobody just takes the top guy every year. And then
Speaker 1: you say, well, Wow, Let's say he picks the Lakers
Speaker 1: or the Clippers. Let's say pick them the Clippers. Cooper
Speaker 1: flag we're talking about. Yeah, let's say pick the Clippers.
Speaker 1: All right, that's where he would go. He got to pick.
Speaker 1: But they might have to adjust their salary cap right now.
Speaker 1: They may have to. And these guys are get paid
Speaker 1: in tiers just like they normally are, but they might
Speaker 1: have to adjust it to get them. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you take him now we know this, other players
Speaker 1: coming out next year, you can't go get them. So
Speaker 1: once you got your Tier one guy, now you can
Speaker 1: get as many Tier two guys or three guys as
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 3: If they come to you.
Speaker 1: But what will happen is guys might get into a
Speaker 1: situation where I'd like to be a star. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be a star there. Maybe that's more
Speaker 1: important to me. Maybe the city is more important to me.
Speaker 1: So how would you recruit these guys? You could do
Speaker 1: a hell of a job to recruit them. You got
Speaker 1: to convince them to come play for you. You've got to
Speaker 1: have great facilities you You basically have.
Speaker 3: To do what the Dodgers have done.
Speaker 1: You have to build something like that. Or yeah, college recruiting.
Speaker 1: Kevin just said my ear, yeah, good college recruiting. That's
Speaker 1: how you would do it. So when you came out
Speaker 1: of USC if this plan was in place, where would
Speaker 1: you have played?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's a that's a good question. Certainly wouldn't been Detroit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I you know at that time, this was.
Speaker 3: You know, given given the climate where it was, uh,
Speaker 3: it might have been the Rams.
Speaker 2: Actually at that time, Rams were in a situation where
Speaker 2: they were in transition quarterback wise, it might have been
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Montana was getting older, they is prior to
Speaker 2: Steve Young signing there, could have gone there.
Speaker 3: And you know, at that time, most quarterbacks came out.
Speaker 2: You didn't necessarily not everybody started right away unless you
Speaker 2: were like the number one pick, right, you went and
Speaker 2: you sat for a year or two and then uh
Speaker 2: then you you broke in.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: If that that that that works. So if you're Cooper
Speaker 2: Flag and he wants to play for the Lakers, then
Speaker 2: you got to work it into your salary cap situation.
Speaker 5: Right, No, it's it's it's all slotted like it's slotted.
Speaker 1: But you're right, it's slotted. But you know, you can't
Speaker 1: go onto the second apron and stuff like that. You'd
Speaker 1: have to move guys to get out of luxury tax problems.
Speaker 3: It slotted, though, I don't mess.
Speaker 5: I mean sure, I guess i'man you worry about that
Speaker 5: usually after the draft, at that point in time, you
Speaker 5: know exactly how much a Tier one or a first
Speaker 5: overall pick would make. So yeah, you have to account
Speaker 5: for that to a certain degree, but it's not going
Speaker 5: to count against you going into.
Speaker 2: The get so you only get one of these guys.
Speaker 2: If so, you get one of the one of the
Speaker 2: guys that are coming out. So if Cooper Flag picks
Speaker 2: the Lakers to play for the the next guy, the
Speaker 2: next top prospect player, whoever it may be, can't pick
Speaker 2: the Lakers, correct, that's right.
Speaker 5: And the Lakers lose the ability to draft or whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call this, take sign a Tier one
Speaker 5: player for the next two years after.
Speaker 2: That, and Tier one players are are determined by who
Speaker 2: the general.
Speaker 5: General manager's front office types basically how draft rankings are.
Speaker 5: Now it will be the exact same.
Speaker 3: Draft rank they would rank the kids. Yep, mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Now you're throwing in two inside of the tier. So
Speaker 5: it's not like I wrote, I rank you know, Cooper
Speaker 5: flag as number one, this is number two, this is
Speaker 5: number three. But they would have a group of players,
Speaker 5: and David Aldrig has a I forget the exact number
Speaker 5: of players, but Fred maybe.
Speaker 3: You remember fifteen players.
Speaker 5: Fifteen players something like that will be Tier one, then
Speaker 5: the next fifteen will be Tier two, then the next
Speaker 5: would be you know in the et cetera, just like that.
Speaker 1: Seventy five players total, right, Kevin, Yeah, yeah, seventy five.
Speaker 1: So it'd be fifteen would be Tier one, thirty would
Speaker 1: be Tier two, thirty then would be Tier three, and
Speaker 1: then all bets are off. And in this scenario, I
Speaker 1: think it's really fascinating you can get a Tier one,
Speaker 1: Tier two, and Tier three in the same year. You
Speaker 1: can do that, identify three of the guys we want
Speaker 1: those three, convince them to come play for you.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: You got to do a really good job as an organization,
Speaker 1: which would scare some organizations.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would square scare a lot of organization.
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to nobody's going down to playing Charlotte. You know,
Speaker 2: none of those guys are going down there, and so
Speaker 2: you're gonna have you're gonna still have You're gonna be
Speaker 2: top heavy with the top like ten teams, twelve teams,
Speaker 2: whatever that is.
Speaker 1: But remember, once they're in, they're out for two years,
Speaker 1: so they can't go back. You can't cherry pick. That
Speaker 1: would open it for somebody else.
Speaker 2: I think that guy to Cooper Flag and if I'm
Speaker 2: the number one prospect from for next year, I can't
Speaker 2: go to the Lakers.
Speaker 1: No, I can't go to the Golden State. No, you
Speaker 1: can't be a Tier one guy like they can't take
Speaker 1: another Tier one.
Speaker 3: No. I think it's a great idea. I think it's
Speaker 3: the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well I thought you would,
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure why this time. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's that's terrible.
Speaker 5: The aspect of it the die like is that that
Speaker 5: it disincentivizes tanking because now there's no need to. It
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense for everyone that wants to argue
Speaker 5: against tanking and teams not trying to win towards the
Speaker 5: end of the season. It does you no good at
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 2: There's other ways that deterred tanking. Maybe you pay a
Speaker 2: fine if you're a certain level. If you don't have
Speaker 2: so many wins, you gotta get over a certain threshold
Speaker 2: that you you lose something certain capabilities. But no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like the model. Why why don't
Speaker 3: you like it? Because I don't think it works.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think it you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna get you know, uh, certain guys get
Speaker 2: the picked. I want to go play for the Lakers,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have fifteen teams in the league
Speaker 2: that's just gonna just gonna rotate. Or a guy's gonna
Speaker 2: say I'm not playing, I'm not playing for Charlotte. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go and play in Spain for a year.
Speaker 3: What is that? What happens then?
Speaker 2: Or I'm not coming out in this year's draft, or
Speaker 2: I'm I'm doing something different until the Lakers can pick
Speaker 2: me again. I well, I'm going to I'm going to Spain,
Speaker 2: or I'm going to exercise my right to not come
Speaker 2: out of high school.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go play college for a year. And
Speaker 3: I think it just it's just handcuffs certain teams.
Speaker 2: I think there's other ways to to punish teams for
Speaker 2: tanking other than taking away the whole entire draft.
Speaker 3: It forces teams to do a better job of it.
Speaker 3: We don't have the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we don't have the draft, we don't see
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City in Indiana in the finals this year.
Speaker 3: Why couldn't they have just signed those guys all along.
Speaker 2: Don't see seven different NBA championships or champions in seven years,
Speaker 2: because that that is what parody is all about, is
Speaker 2: that one team doesn't create a dynasty and they don't
Speaker 2: win it three, four or five straight years in a row.
Speaker 2: Even though I believe dynasties are good, I believe you
Speaker 2: got to have teams that are at the top that
Speaker 2: everybody wants to knock off.
Speaker 3: I believe that that creates excitement. I like that.
Speaker 2: But it also allows for a team like Oklahoma City,
Speaker 2: like Indiana to being up in comer and find a
Speaker 2: way to build and then be in the championship like
Speaker 2: they were this year.
Speaker 1: Short show today, two hours, so we're back to wrap
Speaker 1: it up.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, finish it up, Fred, come on now, Rody Pete,
Speaker 2: Fred Rogan, hump Day, Dodgers, Rockies.
Speaker 3: Come on. Got Yamamoto on the hill tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm liking that.
Speaker 3: That's a win. Oh yeah, he's got to get the win.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's not like they haven't been getting to him
Speaker 1: a little bit recently.
Speaker 2: Well he's still under three yeah, e ra, but he's uh.
Speaker 2: I think his record is what six and six. They
Speaker 2: haven't scored down with a lot of runs for him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like back in the day a little
Speaker 2: bit with uh with Kershaw. They got to get some
Speaker 2: run support for him when he's on the hill. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this would be a good one for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Up there, Dolander is pitching for Colorado. Show a hands.
Speaker 1: Everybody know him. No, I didn't think so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And also it'll be interesting to see if Michael Confordo
Speaker 1: gets another hit. I mean, it'll be fascinating to watch
Speaker 1: this now and just see because he's on the clock,
Speaker 1: and see if he can consistently deliver. He's a big
Speaker 1: league player. He's done it in the past, he got
Speaker 1: off to an awful start. That doesn't mean he can't
Speaker 1: do it. But now we'll see because he is on
Speaker 1: the clock, and I think people are going to be
Speaker 1: laser focused on what he does now with the trade
Speaker 1: deadline coming up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what is good enough? Right?
Speaker 2: What is going to be good enough for him going
Speaker 2: forward for them not to say we got to go
Speaker 2: out and get a left handed bat.
Speaker 1: That's the question. What is the definition of he's okay?
Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna he's not gonna get three
Speaker 1: hits a game every game in the month of July.
Speaker 1: That will not happen. So what does it need to be? Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll see all right, Uh, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin, great
Speaker 1: work as always. Dodgers play early tomorrow, so we're off
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you on Friday.