Speaker 1: You'll be like a dummy bit it's the internet. You're busy.
Speaker 2: Let's do this for October tenth, twenty twenty four. For
Speaker 2: the next hour or so, let me help you sort
Speaker 2: through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live
Speaker 2: with me Jeff Grub. Today, Nintendo has a mysterious new feature.
Speaker 2: It's testing for Switch online. You know what that means
Speaker 2: me versus back.
Speaker 1: But first please join me and welcoming today's co host
Speaker 1: the Game Mess Mornings. It's Jane A Shoa. Dan. How
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 3: Uh a completely abysmal grub everything down the toilet.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, we're here. It's good right now at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good in this moment and everything going down
Speaker 2: the toilet is trying to find a silver lining struggling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, Nintendo made a clock yesterday. They didn't make
Speaker 1: it to me.
Speaker 2: They made a clock that I did pre order it
Speaker 2: because I'm a sucker kind of not beating the allegations,
Speaker 2: and everyone's like these guys handing there a Nintendo and
Speaker 2: then I'm just like leaning into it.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, let me buy the clock.
Speaker 2: You Hey, silver lining looking good in your giant bomb jersey.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you available at store dot giant bomb dot com. Margaret,
Speaker 3: I swear we'll answer your emails today.
Speaker 2: Everything I did, I did see that. Yes, we will
Speaker 2: get to that today. We promise, all right, I'm out
Speaker 2: to Margaret. I don't think we've talked about Margaret. Yeah,
Speaker 2: shouts out to Margaret. Margaret is the person that works
Speaker 2: at Fandom that has like taken charge of helping us
Speaker 2: out with merch and she makes it very simple, Like
Speaker 2: we wanted to do the bwek shirt and she's like,
Speaker 2: do you want to do it embroidered? I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: she's okay, just get me an embroidery file. So I
Speaker 2: figured that out. But then I just handed it to
Speaker 2: her and everything else.
Speaker 1: Just got a bwek.
Speaker 2: Shirt up on the store and that was a lot
Speaker 2: of fun and we can like all the time. She's
Speaker 2: very helpful with that stuff and like very willing to
Speaker 2: be like, no, if you want to do an idea,
Speaker 2: we'll help you out.
Speaker 1: So it's been great, so great.
Speaker 3: I assume that we're the weirdest people that she works
Speaker 3: with at the company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very patient with us, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she does not let on to the fact that
Speaker 2: we are the weirdest people she works with.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, every I do think that it's a little
Speaker 3: bit of joy every time we do have our monthly
Speaker 3: merch meetings like that's these hooligans again.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, we bring a little the sunshine. I did
Speaker 2: not play Echo Point Nova in that meeting. It was
Speaker 2: very respectful of her. You guys can go to hell.
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Speaker 2: All right, we have a lot to get into, so
Speaker 2: let's start the Morning Mess with Nintendo launching mysterious Switch
Speaker 2: online test soon. Here's how to sign up. This is
Speaker 2: from Georgiang at GameSpot and actually the sign up just
Speaker 2: went live now and it's first come first serve. So
Speaker 2: if you want to get in there, go go do
Speaker 2: it now. I guess I bet if you google Nintendo's
Speaker 2: mysterious Switch Online Test sign up, you'll find some pages
Speaker 2: that will link you to the right thing. Well, that's
Speaker 2: what I think. That's what we're all listen what we
Speaker 2: don't know what to call it. It is rather ominous.
Speaker 2: They won't tell us about, you know what. I just
Speaker 2: signed up right before we started the show. So let
Speaker 2: me read what it says to me here Online play
Speaker 2: Test Application results. So I got my results already about
Speaker 2: whether or not I'm going to be in the test,
Speaker 2: it says grub and then in bold letters selected, So
Speaker 2: I've been selected for the test. Now if it is
Speaker 2: it turns out to be a hunger game situation, while
Speaker 2: I'm all for that, that sounds a good time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I would do that.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever.
Speaker 2: It then goes on to say thank you for applying
Speaker 2: for the Nintendo Switch Online play Test program. And again,
Speaker 2: if you're listening to this and you're like, what is
Speaker 2: the test, we don't know, we don't know. These are
Speaker 2: the few details we do have. We will provide detailed
Speaker 2: guidance on how to participate along with the download code
Speaker 2: for the software, so it is a separate software package
Speaker 2: they're going to deliver that you need to go into
Speaker 2: to experience this stuff, and they said they'll provide it
Speaker 2: on this application bit page come back on October twentieth. Okay,
Speaker 2: In terms of what else they've said about this thing,
Speaker 2: it's hard to really parse anything other than you need
Speaker 2: to be a Nintendo Switch Online Plus Expansion Pack member,
Speaker 2: so you've got to be a paid member on the
Speaker 2: top tier to test this. That might not be indicative
Speaker 2: of what it is. Maybe they just want to limit
Speaker 2: it to that audience, but maybe it is indicative of like,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's going to be for that audience as well.
Speaker 2: But at the very least, no, they're just testing it.
Speaker 2: There's also like you need to be in certain countries,
Speaker 2: things like that. People are speculating though, they're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what what is this? What could it be?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of theories out there, but no one
Speaker 2: seemed Nathan Hate Okay, he's a Nintendo leaker, thinks it's
Speaker 2: GameCube streaming. That seems to be one of the possibilities.
Speaker 2: It could be cloud games streaming where and that you know,
Speaker 2: that lines up with it being a separate app, right,
Speaker 2: because the Super Nintendo games are in its own app,
Speaker 2: some of the other ones are in their own apps.
Speaker 2: And then now you go get the Nintendo GameCube cloud
Speaker 2: streaming one. Maybe that makes sense. Other possibilities is family
Speaker 2: library sharing. Now does that make sense with a separate app? Well,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a different version of some existing app or
Speaker 2: something like that. Could be a social platform could actually
Speaker 2: be something like the me verse. Could be remote play together,
Speaker 2: something we see on Steam and PlayStation where you can
Speaker 2: stream your game from your console to your friend and
Speaker 2: then you guys could play basically couch co op but
Speaker 2: online evements. Yeah, maybe we'll see Nintono has had done
Speaker 2: it yet. Uh And that's all I have written here.
Speaker 1: What do you think jan cloud streaming makes the most
Speaker 1: sense to me? Seems very possible. Yeah, other.
Speaker 3: Nintendo has always been very weird and very guarded about
Speaker 3: having social platforms. I mean the closest we had, at
Speaker 3: least on the switch is like the Splatoon three lobbies
Speaker 3: with everyone's like little like speech bubble tags.
Speaker 1: I could grub. What if this is the return of
Speaker 1: street passing? Could be street passing? Could be the next
Speaker 1: gen Street Pass. Uh.
Speaker 2: I mean I would love something like that, something weird,
Speaker 2: but it just seems so like odd for it to
Speaker 2: appear at this point and the Nintendo switches life. But
Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't mean it couldn't carry forward.
Speaker 1: To the switch too. Obviously a lot of the technology
Speaker 1: is going to be in there.
Speaker 3: I h okay putting my conspiracy theory had on and
Speaker 3: getting rid of like the bad ones like making up hurricanes.
Speaker 3: I am Nintendo notoriously very I don't want to say bad,
Speaker 3: but odd with their online decisions. They're limiting this to
Speaker 3: they're not advertising what this is at all, and they're
Speaker 3: limiting it to their top tier of subscribers already. I
Speaker 3: think it makes the most sense grub for this to
Speaker 3: just be like, hey, we're just trying to limit access
Speaker 3: to and test out some type of multiplayer thing. Now
Speaker 3: what that multiplayer thing is? I could see this being
Speaker 3: that thing you were talking about of that remote playing
Speaker 3: together like that was a big thing on the Nintendo DS.
Speaker 3: Like if you were if you were the friend where
Speaker 3: you didn't have Mario Kart, you just had a friend.
Speaker 3: You just linked up with your friend wirelessly and you
Speaker 3: were able to play that game. Maybe they're making a
Speaker 3: bit push to try and sell more copies of Mario
Speaker 3: Kart eight Deluxe, and like, hey, if you don't have it,
Speaker 3: you can play with a friend that has it, because
Speaker 3: twelve of your friends definitely have Mario Kart eight and
Speaker 3: maybe you'll be hooked and want to buy Mario cart
Speaker 3: eight Deluxe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a kind and like that. That's something that.
Speaker 2: Would feel like it would be a future worth a
Speaker 2: like pointing out because they are so intent on making
Speaker 2: party style games that haven't had the most robust, like
Speaker 2: actual online features. So if you take some of these
Speaker 2: games that worked better as couch co op games, and
Speaker 2: then especially throughout the Switch, they have better online in
Speaker 2: the past, but you know, with the Switch, some of
Speaker 2: those games they could make it so hey, now you
Speaker 2: can actually enjoy those games with friends remotely, something they
Speaker 2: might have started working on during the pandemic and now
Speaker 2: we're just getting it right, so that maybe the timing
Speaker 2: lines up on all of that. I don't know, it
Speaker 2: does like it would that be a separate app Maybe
Speaker 2: again for testing maybe.
Speaker 1: Right, but for a separate app.
Speaker 2: I do think that does make it sound like, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe some new console for Nintendo Switch Online's you know,
Speaker 2: classic console collections. Maybe that does make sense. And GameCube
Speaker 2: and streaming, do you begin to worry about quality of
Speaker 2: Nintendo's network, which of course I think we all should,
Speaker 2: but there are examples of when they're a little bit
Speaker 2: better at it and if they are making a stink
Speaker 2: about it. There has been word there also that they've
Speaker 2: been investing in it and improving it a little bit
Speaker 2: over time. Maybe this is the first real example of that.
Speaker 2: Still though I think that's probably not how I'm going
Speaker 2: to want to play GameCube games, right.
Speaker 3: I assume them having this very limited and like last
Speaker 3: minute sign up process is them conceding that if this
Speaker 3: is the GameCube streaming thing that we're talking about, that
Speaker 3: it isn't fully completely there yet. So we do want
Speaker 3: to stress test this with a smaller test group before
Speaker 3: we roll it out big or even seeing if that's
Speaker 3: the method that they're approaching it from right now, is
Speaker 3: something that is feasible to a mid sized audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in terms of something they would need to
Speaker 2: test as well with Like, so, I guess there's like
Speaker 2: ten thousand people that they're letting in and it's all
Speaker 2: apparently it's also already full, like it just the sign
Speaker 2: ups just started fifteen.
Speaker 1: Minutes ago, something they would need to test. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could see cloud streaming making sense remote play together
Speaker 2: beyond that, though, I don't know.
Speaker 3: The more I'm thinking about it, like maybe it could
Speaker 3: be some type of social platform. Maybe this is something
Speaker 3: they want to start testing now before the switch to launches.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is another me vers type of deal.
Speaker 3: Mate, like he'd always felt like Nintendo left a lot
Speaker 3: on the table with animal crossing.
Speaker 1: This on this console generation. M hmm.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that this is going to be like
Speaker 3: new animal crossing thing, but maybe this is like you
Speaker 3: visit a friend's world, you visit a friend's.
Speaker 1: Me space, we space switch to space, whatever we're gonna
Speaker 1: call you. Maybe you visit another friend's clock. All right,
Speaker 1: clock visiting sounds great. Yeah, what you got going on
Speaker 1: in your clock? It's just pickming four again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see a a social platform that doesn't
Speaker 2: like involve.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the app is Discord.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe it's Discord, Like maybe that's maybe they're
Speaker 2: just like, hey, actually Discord is on the switch now
Speaker 2: and you could just download it and we worked with
Speaker 2: them and and you're gonna have to download that separately
Speaker 2: to get it to work. But we need people to
Speaker 2: test it to see if it actually can function with
Speaker 2: all this other stuff with a certain number of people
Speaker 2: playing games at once.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that would maybe not be
Speaker 1: very Nintendo.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I Nintendo like teamed up with not dot Emu.
Speaker 1: Who was it in Japan? Line was it Lyne.
Speaker 2: In Japan's the name of the company that was supposed
Speaker 2: to do like their internet back end and provide some
Speaker 2: of the social services on the switch, And that never
Speaker 2: really seemed to pan out into anything that mattered, and
Speaker 2: so they have been willing to partner in the past.
Speaker 1: It's never turned in anything.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're like, well, this time, we should just get
Speaker 2: a partner that we know already does this and does
Speaker 2: it in a way that everyone else finds acceptable. So
Speaker 2: maybe they could turn to someone like Discord. I don't
Speaker 2: really think that's what it is, though, I guess all
Speaker 2: that's it. I mean, we said what we think it
Speaker 2: could be. What do you want it to be? What
Speaker 2: is the thing you most would want to see on
Speaker 2: the switch?
Speaker 3: I don't know, grub maybe it bricks your switch and
Speaker 3: it just becomes a clock that you wear around your neck.
Speaker 1: It turns out this whole time.
Speaker 3: If you reverse the joy cons and then put the
Speaker 3: safety straps together, you can just wear it as a watch.
Speaker 1: Yep. Maybe the time the switch has been actually flexible
Speaker 1: and we just didn't know.
Speaker 2: There's a little pendulums in there that can keep time
Speaker 2: and stuff inside the joy cons. Absolutely yeah, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I I guess personally, I'm not sure. I think I
Speaker 2: would for a social media platform actually, like me verse, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Joking that stuff was fun.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, Nintendo's like heavy handed approach kind of
Speaker 2: could make that like, oh, they only allow fun stuff
Speaker 2: on here. And then there's the occasional weird sadness of
Speaker 2: the one kid tweeting my dad just left or whatever
Speaker 2: so's and that's like, holy crap, this is weird, but
Speaker 2: weird in a very odd and again odd ball Nintendo way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: me Verse ruled, I missed that thing, so I would
Speaker 2: like that to come back, don't again, don't. Maybe I
Speaker 2: don't really think that's what this is either. I probably
Speaker 2: lean towards what Nathan Hate saying, a GameCube streaming from
Speaker 2: the cloud option sture.
Speaker 1: I mean the logistics of that.
Speaker 2: They like reselling game cube games, they like, you know,
Speaker 2: remastering them and selling them, selling them to us for
Speaker 2: forty to fifty to sixty dollars depending on what the
Speaker 2: game is, and that seems like it's pretty good business
Speaker 2: because those games often go on to sell a million
Speaker 2: to three million copies.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: It's maybe quite a bit more money than Oh now
Speaker 2: more people want to sign up for Nintendo Switch Online. Well,
Speaker 2: a lot of people already do sign up for that
Speaker 2: to play Mario Kart Online or whatever or Splatoon. Are
Speaker 2: you really getting that much more from them by offering
Speaker 2: these other services? So I my understanding is Nintdo always
Speaker 2: wants they just keep selling us those games again. So
Speaker 2: that's why I'm a little bit like, what what actually
Speaker 2: ends up on a GameCube cloud streaming service? I mean,
Speaker 2: is it just these other games from We're Jaliko and Majestico.
Speaker 2: Is still making GameCube games? I don't think they made many,
Speaker 2: if they did any.
Speaker 1: You can't put a just dance on a GameCube.
Speaker 2: Gro Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think that in
Speaker 2: terms of what it looks like from the rest of
Speaker 2: those Nintendo Switch Online console offerings where it's like, we're
Speaker 2: just kind of doing the old Nintendo games at this point,
Speaker 2: and then the occasional weird third party partner. No one
Speaker 2: big is really supporting that all that much anymore. It's
Speaker 2: certainly not you know, CAPCOMs and Square inoxes and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So what actually would come out of a
Speaker 2: GameCube service, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Also, folks at home, temper your expectations, y'all, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure. Don't work yourselves into a shoot that and
Speaker 3: get upset when this is revealed to be like, maybe
Speaker 3: it is just Discord or Nintendo's weird version of Discord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, could be bad Discord, right, that's a very
Speaker 2: likely scenario here. It is just a the phone app
Speaker 2: that they made for phones now just runs natively on
Speaker 2: the switch and still sucks, and nobody wants to use it.
Speaker 1: So they made sharing screenshots very difficult now versus how
Speaker 1: it used to be. That's maybe that's what you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think their own way of sharing screenshots.
Speaker 1: That'd be great.
Speaker 3: Maybe, uh hey, maybe we just it's it's a game
Speaker 3: boy camera, maybe it's a switch camera.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that would be awesome, I think.
Speaker 2: Then chaperone noticed someone's recording her concert with a three
Speaker 2: DS recently and called it out, that's fun. She liked it,
Speaker 2: called it out in a good way. Too young to
Speaker 2: know what that is, right, That's what I think. That's
Speaker 2: what it was happening. Was She's like, what are you
Speaker 2: recording with? That's that's weird. Yeah, But I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think she's too young to know what a three
Speaker 2: DS is. That probably would have been something when she like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a young kid, but it would have been
Speaker 2: around for quite some while back then, for quite some
Speaker 2: time back then.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Nintendo and being weird in Japan, the Nintendo
Speaker 2: Soundclock Alarmo is already sold out. Future sales will will
Speaker 2: require a lottery. This is from my Nintendo News. It
Speaker 2: turns out the recently announced one hundred dollars interactive alarm clock,
Speaker 2: the Nintendo Soundclock pull an alarmo from Nintendo, has proved
Speaker 2: to be a success in the land of the Rise
Speaker 2: and Sun, as My Nintendo Store has suspended sales due
Speaker 2: to high demand. The company says that they will be
Speaker 2: switching to a lottery type system, which is common in Japan.
Speaker 2: They're actually doing a lottery system for that mystery test
Speaker 2: as well. Nintendo said in a message that they will
Speaker 2: continue to progressively increase production. Due to the extremely large
Speaker 2: number of orders we have received, we are currently suspending
Speaker 2: sales at Mind Nintendo Store. We are preparing to change
Speaker 2: the Mind Nintendo stores sales method to a lottery for
Speaker 2: Nintendo Switch Online subscribers, So please be patient. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I wonder how many of these things they were planning
Speaker 2: to make in the first place.
Speaker 1: But also I mean I bought it.
Speaker 2: I think Dan and Mike also got it, so they
Speaker 2: are getting the suckers. And then in Japan, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people just love Nintendo stuff and it has
Speaker 2: it has the stuff that is popped off recently in
Speaker 2: Japan from Nintendo, that being you know, Pickman is one
Speaker 2: thing that was very popular in Japan. Splatoon astronomically popular
Speaker 2: in Japan, and that was also on there. So I
Speaker 2: think people are just like, no, we love that stuff,
Speaker 2: give us anything that has that stuff in it. So
Speaker 2: kind of maybe helps illuminate why Nintendo does these kinds
Speaker 2: of things sometimes.
Speaker 3: Right one hundred percent, I feel like, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: Japan will match Nintendo's freak as well. As the Nintendo
Speaker 3: marks out there. And I say that affectionately. I I
Speaker 3: think it's just hilarious that it's if Sony, if PlayStation
Speaker 3: made a clock that watched you while you slept, that
Speaker 3: was kind of not poorly made, but just oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: That screen doesn't even match out match with like the
Speaker 3: black of the clock. It looks like it's a it's
Speaker 3: a bad line lineup job. Why not make the whole
Speaker 3: circular screen the screen, yep? Or like I guess Xbox
Speaker 3: made the fridge, but that was a goof.
Speaker 1: They made a toaster too, right, I can't remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: going right.
Speaker 3: I think we would clown on it more. But when
Speaker 3: Nintendo does it, it's like, well that's quaint. What do
Speaker 3: you what are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like this is in line with the
Speaker 2: weirdness we expect from Nintendo, So it's not such.
Speaker 1: A deviation from the mean.
Speaker 2: Where uh when, Yes, if Sony was try and like
Speaker 2: get cute, we'll be like, you're a consumer electronics company,
Speaker 2: just stick stay in your lane a little bit. But
Speaker 2: uh yeah, yeah, so I agree the Nintendo gets a
Speaker 2: little bit more leeway here, for sure, But also, you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're doing it in the cute and fun way
Speaker 2: that a lot of their audience seemingly wants. So, you know,
Speaker 2: not you know, said the fridge, they did that as
Speaker 2: a goof a lot of people bought that fridge. That
Speaker 2: fridge is also still on sale. They you can go
Speaker 2: get one of Target now, I think, so like there's
Speaker 2: been a certain level of popularity.
Speaker 1: For that as well. Yeah, I I've got one.
Speaker 2: I did buy it before I realized that it's like
Speaker 2: if there's two people in the bed, it doesn't work
Speaker 2: as well. You have to like you can't do the
Speaker 2: motion thing because the person that remains in bed will
Speaker 2: be like they keep setting it off, So you just
Speaker 2: got to actually just turn it into a normal alarm clock.
Speaker 1: Or with a button, So what loses some of the charm.
Speaker 2: Also, you know I'm saying all this, I'm almost certainly
Speaker 2: going to use it a couple of times and then
Speaker 2: give it to one of the kids.
Speaker 1: Probably that'll probably be how this thing actually goes.
Speaker 2: So h it's one like I'm excited to buy it
Speaker 2: because again sucker excited to have it or use it.
Speaker 2: That is a whole different discussion. Actually, I mean, I I.
Speaker 3: Could see a lot of folks, just you know, the
Speaker 3: collectors out there wanting this is a like a new
Speaker 3: weird piece of tech from Nintendo that may disappear in
Speaker 3: a little bit. Uh, let me go put this next
Speaker 3: to my labbo and my ring Fit we Fit.
Speaker 2: We've ring ring Fit Ring ring Fit. Yeah, the ring
Speaker 2: Fit Adventure ring Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, grub, here's here's my I still have a conspiracy theory,
Speaker 3: please hat on. What if Nintendo is just testing the
Speaker 3: desire for a time telling device and they gotcha at home?
Speaker 1: Now what if they got you everywhere else? What if
Speaker 1: they were follow I'm still on it.
Speaker 3: Crub I one hundred, still on the watch WATCHO.
Speaker 1: Watcho's a pretty good name, actually, I like that. Uh
Speaker 1: it's we gotta read the tea leaves, greb.
Speaker 2: We do we gotta, we gotta do some work here.
Speaker 2: We gotta go use our creative juices.
Speaker 1: Also, this is just me thinking.
Speaker 3: Nintendo is gauging what gadget do We has kind of
Speaker 3: disappeared from modern society. I can't remember the last time
Speaker 3: I had a friend say, man.
Speaker 1: I got this new alarm clock. Dog, check it out.
Speaker 1: We have alarm clocks. They're called phones. Yeah exactly. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think.
Speaker 3: What else do I did I have around my house
Speaker 3: that Nintendo could just take over?
Speaker 1: That weird appliance market sure, a analog or a wired telephone,
Speaker 1: like just so something you put on your wall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll only you only get calls from Warrio and Reggie Fiesime.
Speaker 3: All right, greb if I don't get my watch, if
Speaker 3: I do not get my Nintendo Nintendo switched to Watch Wearable,
Speaker 3: all right, this is my new desire and Nintendo, Doug,
Speaker 3: get ready to cut the check.
Speaker 1: Nintendo walkie talkies, imagine.
Speaker 2: That, nintend Sorry the kids talk to me right when
Speaker 2: you said the thing? What was Nintendo?
Speaker 1: What walkie talkies? Listen? I love walkie talkies. I'm grown man,
Speaker 1: of course I love walkie talkies.
Speaker 3: You bust you pop out one of the new joy
Speaker 3: cons Walko Tacos. Right, you bust out one of the
Speaker 3: joy cons. You're like, yo, grub, where are you at?
Speaker 3: And then you bust out your other joy Con. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm right behind you, Jim.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so walkie talkies that are also joy cons that
Speaker 2: you connect to your Yeah, okay, I'm fully on board
Speaker 2: for that yeah, that rules.
Speaker 1: Let's do someone send me the money please.
Speaker 2: A little update about the Nintendo Switch online test thing.
Speaker 2: It's a two point two gigabyte download, so it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: that sounds a bit big. Maybe for cloud streaming. Maybe not,
Speaker 2: who the hell knows. It's probably right in line. There's
Speaker 2: no maybe we can't glean too.
Speaker 1: Much from that.
Speaker 2: But Nintendo does recommend using TV mode and a wired
Speaker 2: connection during the test.
Speaker 1: It's clad streaming.
Speaker 2: That's like claud streaming to me, actually, but again we'll see, uh,
Speaker 2: maybe it's like a voice connection or something like that.
Speaker 2: So and then when you have a wired connection, but
Speaker 2: we will find out not too long. In fact, about
Speaker 2: ten days, we'll have a good idea of what's going
Speaker 2: on there. Okay, let's keep moving here, actually know what,
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick test or a quick breaks you mean.
Speaker 2: Then we'll come back and we'll talk about October's PlayStation
Speaker 2: Plus games.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Overwatch Mobile and more. Right after this
Speaker 1: wake up jam, we got more news. Sorry I didn't
Speaker 1: have my alarmo yet asleep. I'll send you mine.
Speaker 2: October's PlayStation Plus game catalog and classic titles have been announced.
Speaker 2: This is from Tom IBN ATVGC Sony has revealed October
Speaker 2: twenty twenty fourth PlayStation Plus game catalog and classic titles unlock.
Speaker 1: Unlike October's PlayStation Plus Essential games, which are available for
Speaker 1: all subscribers.
Speaker 2: To claim, game catalogs, downloadable PS four and PS five
Speaker 2: titles are only available for Extra and Premium tier members.
Speaker 2: Those essential games, by the way, our WWE two K
Speaker 2: twenty four, Dead Space, the PS five to one and
Speaker 2: Dopey Doky Literature Club Plus. For PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium.
Speaker 2: Both of those subscriber tiers will get Dead Island two
Speaker 2: two point Campus, The Dark Pitcher's anthology, The Devil in
Speaker 2: Me Greece. Grease is how we say that one return
Speaker 2: to Monkey Island, Ghostbusters, Spirits Unleashed fire Fighting Simulator, The
Speaker 2: squad Over Past two, Tour de France twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and Tom Clancy's Ghost recon Wildlands. That is yeh, says
Speaker 2: poster or the Astrakiers PlayStation Plus release re Release Okay,
Speaker 2: then PlayStation Plus Premium tier. It's the highest tier. That's
Speaker 2: the one that gets the classic games. Those classic games
Speaker 2: include The Last Clockwinder. It's actually a PSVR two game
Speaker 2: of r two game, which I guess maybe those are
Speaker 2: also locked a premium tier. Seems like it h Dino Crisis,
Speaker 2: A Siren, and Our Type Dimensions ex. I guess that
Speaker 2: Siren is a improved version of because apparently it was
Speaker 2: still playable previously through through the service, but it didn't
Speaker 2: work very well. And apparently now this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a PS five version or updated version, so that'll.
Speaker 1: Fix some of those issues for some people. I suppose
Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. You you subscribe to PlayStation Plus these days.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Grub, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Every time we cover one of these stories, I forget
Speaker 3: which one I'm subscribed to, let alone if I am
Speaker 3: subscribed to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what I did is I did just
Speaker 2: see me get charged for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate the
Speaker 2: other day on my PAYE Okay, I'm still paying for that.
Speaker 2: And then I know recently and I forget what I
Speaker 2: was trying to play. I was trying to play something
Speaker 2: online on the PlayStation five and I just.
Speaker 1: Said, screw it.
Speaker 2: I bought a whole year of I think still still
Speaker 2: to this day, don't know if I've played one of
Speaker 2: these classic games on the PS five.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent same boat. M hmm, well, oh, I
Speaker 3: acknowledge that that is a user problem versus how PlayStation
Speaker 3: has been handling it, because whenever they do announce the
Speaker 3: last couple of months, at least whenever they do announce
Speaker 3: this PlayStation Plus line up, people do get pretty juiced
Speaker 3: and excited over what is getting added.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people seem to be pretty happy with these
Speaker 2: services now, especially the Extra Tier. The Extra Tier ISA
Speaker 2: has continued to be a pretty good deal for most people,
Speaker 2: especially if you don't have a lot of these games
Speaker 2: that are getting added to the back catalog library.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent and I it's it's it's cool seeing
Speaker 3: games perhaps getting a second life on the PlayStation four
Speaker 3: and PS five like Dead Island two.
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any problems with it was just solid.
Speaker 3: Ran out of yeah, just ran out of time. I'm
Speaker 3: not familiar with this Dark Pictures game. A two point
Speaker 3: campus is a solid one of those. It's so funny,
Speaker 3: Grub to think about how many kart racers there are
Speaker 3: on different platforms, like Over Past two.
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of it in a car racer game.
Speaker 1: It's like a ATV racing game, right, Okay, yes, I've
Speaker 1: ever seen this before, like ATV's Yeah, so pretty good library.
Speaker 2: As people point out, like the extra tier also get
Speaker 2: some good indies on day one, So yeah, that's probably
Speaker 2: where I should be. But I'm like, I do the
Speaker 2: thing and do the medium popcorrn thing. Well, I'm already
Speaker 2: spending this much money and it's only that much more
Speaker 2: to get the premium tier. I should just do that
Speaker 2: and I should go play I think they put mister
Speaker 2: Mosquito on the service the month previous month. I should
Speaker 2: go play that on there. That's what I should do
Speaker 2: with my time and the money I've already given them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright.
Speaker 2: Overwatch Mobile is apparently in development at Blizzard, according to
Speaker 2: Jason Schreyer's book. This is from Javier Escrebano at Game Reactor.
Speaker 2: Overwatch franchise has had more downs than ups recently, with
Speaker 2: the cancelation of Overwatch two's PV mode, which was actually
Speaker 2: the main draw of the sequel, as well as the
Speaker 2: slope in players and player engagement, or the exhaustion of
Speaker 2: the hero shooter genre as a whole. There's still future
Speaker 2: to over still a future to Overwatch, though, and one
Speaker 2: of Blizzard's gambles could end up being very successful. As
Speaker 2: it has been reported that Overwatch will get a mobile version,
Speaker 2: is an unclear when that will happen, though the source
Speaker 2: is this is from Jason Schreyer's book dex Erdo read
Speaker 2: It so took that as an excerpt to put it,
Speaker 2: made it into a news story. So might we might
Speaker 2: lose some context here? That's how these things go. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we're getting the game of Telephone again. I've pre ordered
Speaker 2: the book. Mine's not come yet. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to get here maybe today actually, But yeah, I have
Speaker 2: not read this myself, so again, could be losing some context.
Speaker 2: All that said makes a lot of sense because we
Speaker 2: what do we always say when we talk about, like,
Speaker 2: when you have one of these shooters, especially a free
Speaker 2: to play one, you got to be everywhere and that
Speaker 2: includes mobile, and that an Overwatch is not left out
Speaker 2: of that conversation, right.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I even think that Nintendo's in on
Speaker 3: this market with Pokemon Unite. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: player numbers have looked like, if they've like stayed pretty
Speaker 3: consistent being on mobile and switch and everything, but this
Speaker 3: just seems like a no brainer, especially if you already
Speaker 3: have all of those existing assets. Try and squeeze more
Speaker 3: juice out of people. And there are tons of casual
Speaker 3: gaming friends that I have that used to play a
Speaker 3: lot of Modern Warfare two or a different form of
Speaker 3: Call of Duty that sitting down behind a console in
Speaker 3: front of their TV became way too much to try
Speaker 3: and squeeze into their life. But they wound up getting
Speaker 3: super duper hooked on cod mobile. So I can see
Speaker 3: that lapsed Overwatch fan that may even have just had
Speaker 3: that curiosity for a little bit pick this up and
Speaker 3: be like, okay, all right, I can get down with this.
Speaker 1: I like the little hamster dude. Ye all, there's too
Speaker 1: many people in this game now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And all that said, there's also no guarantees, right,
Speaker 2: So it's such a weird space. Add more coffee points
Speaker 2: out in chat. EA recently pulled Apex from mobile. Is
Speaker 2: it still worth Is it still worth it for Blizzard
Speaker 2: to invest? I don't think we know. I don't think
Speaker 2: they know. I think it's it's kind of a big
Speaker 2: question because you think you have one of these games
Speaker 2: that's doing very well put on mobile, it'll just get
Speaker 2: more players put on Switch. Even Apex Legends never really
Speaker 2: made any money on Switch. I bet it didn't make
Speaker 2: that all that much on mobile, but you think, okay,
Speaker 2: well Overwatch, right, that's got a player base in Asia,
Speaker 2: and maybe they'll adopt that. Then you look at, like
Speaker 2: on the ground, how it actually works out. It's like,
Speaker 2: what's the most popular want of like Shooter on mobile?
Speaker 2: It's PUBG mobile in Asia.
Speaker 1: It's like, what the heck?
Speaker 2: Why I thought, weren't you guys into like cool, colorful
Speaker 2: character designs. It's like on PC, sure, yeah, on mobile
Speaker 2: we want realistic stuff, but it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: in the world. So it is very hard to actually
Speaker 2: like execute on the strategy to its maximum degree and
Speaker 2: be like, okay, we put it here, we put it there,
Speaker 2: and we're going to make as much money and proportionally
Speaker 2: on this platform as we did there. It doesn't always
Speaker 2: work out that way. And yet, if they want to grow,
Speaker 2: you gotta be everywhere. So that's still going to be
Speaker 2: the motivator here. And even if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: they're still probably gonna try. I mean, obviously they're trying,
Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean they release it even right, there's
Speaker 2: a world where we get down the road and we
Speaker 2: find out this was canceled before ever coming out right.
Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: This also lines up with Xbox's whole approach as of late,
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, let's just be on everything, let's focus
Speaker 3: less on selling the specific box, and let's just get
Speaker 3: our games on as many platforms as possible. I can't
Speaker 3: say that I am personally interested in checking out an
Speaker 3: Overwatch mobile, but I mean I'll give it a round
Speaker 3: or two. Do you do you think maybe because that
Speaker 3: games of Overwatch can be more condensed and much short
Speaker 3: than like a full game of like a Battle Royale,
Speaker 3: that this may be more enticing to some people as like,
Speaker 3: all right, this is just like I have five minutes
Speaker 3: to kill, let's just jump into a game of Payload
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think that's a lot of factors work
Speaker 2: in its favor. That I do think the character designs
Speaker 2: are pretty appealing still, and that would help make the
Speaker 2: game stand out on mobile stores. It's also the kind
Speaker 2: of thing where this would be a kind of new
Speaker 2: and splashy. So someone else pointed in chat, yes, scrub
Speaker 2: a grub. Microsoft keep saying they're doing their own mobile store, right,
Speaker 2: and this is a Microsoft thing now, So if you're
Speaker 2: going to launch the Microsoft Gaming Mobile Store in the
Speaker 2: Android Playstore, which is now something that they Android has
Speaker 2: to allow to happen.
Speaker 1: Google has to allow that.
Speaker 2: You do so by saying, well, that's where you're gonna
Speaker 2: get called Duty Mobile. You're gonna get your updates for
Speaker 2: Candy CROSSAKA, and here's a new over Overwatch mobile game
Speaker 2: launching on the same day as the store. Sure, all
Speaker 2: that all that seems in play and so I think this.
Speaker 1: One can work.
Speaker 2: You know how much people are gonna be willing, willing
Speaker 2: to download a different store and sign up for that
Speaker 2: and get all that stuff to work.
Speaker 1: Every little hurdle adds a bit of friction that might
Speaker 1: prevent it from working.
Speaker 2: But that's, you know what. We know how corporations work.
Speaker 2: They see they see a chance for growth and they
Speaker 2: have to like buy all in, and they have the
Speaker 2: toxic positivity and sort of they just got to go
Speaker 2: in that direction. So I think there's enough of that
Speaker 2: here to fuel the fire of them actually trying to
Speaker 2: pull all this off. And yeah, they can also kind
Speaker 2: of have to figure out something for Overwatch, and this
Speaker 2: feels like another maybe thing you throw at the wall
Speaker 2: if it sticks.
Speaker 1: Overwatch has a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Of a future than maybe it does at the moment.
Speaker 2: Not that it doesn't have a future, that's not really
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, but yeah, it doesn't feel very strong
Speaker 2: at the moment. It's future, all right. Here's here's one
Speaker 2: that made me happy, even though it's not one of
Speaker 2: the ones that I love, necessarily gives me hope for
Speaker 2: a bunch of other games. Star Wars Episode one Jedi
Speaker 2: Power Battles Remastered has been announced for PS five, Xbox Series,
Speaker 2: PS four, Xbox one, Switch, and PC. This is from
Speaker 2: sal Romano Atkamatsu Spire, in collaboration with Lucasfilm Games Bring
Speaker 2: Back LucasArts has announced a remastered version of the two
Speaker 2: thousand released side scrolling action games a game, Star Wars
Speaker 2: Episode one, Jedi Power Battles.
Speaker 1: It will launch for.
Speaker 2: PlayStation five, Xbox Series, blah blah blah, all the ones
Speaker 2: I said before on January twenty third, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: for twenty dollars. The remastered release will feature modern controls,
Speaker 2: thirteen newly unlocked characters from the beginning, all levels unlocked,
Speaker 2: the verses in training modes introduced in later releases of
Speaker 2: the game, and two player couch cooperative play and more. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do this. I mean, I like playing this game.
Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, definitely not one of my favorites,
Speaker 2: but this is cool, right.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? One hundred percent? Who's making this Grub?
Speaker 1: I missed it Aspire with Lucasfilm Games.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, it's so funny that we talk
Speaker 3: We've talked so much about Star Wars fatigue and it
Speaker 3: came to like the launch of Outlaws.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's an episode one thing, Grub.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's like two different things a certain point, right,
Speaker 2: the nostalgia for episode for the prequel trilogy kind of
Speaker 2: is existing over its own little orb and anything that
Speaker 2: is coming from Disney right now. I don't feel this way,
Speaker 2: but anyone, anyone, anything that's coming from Disney feels like
Speaker 2: an assault on that fun memory that a lot of
Speaker 2: young people have for that prequel trilogy era.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love this game. I played an obscene
Speaker 3: amount of this game. Okay, really it came out. I
Speaker 3: do not want to see Jedi power battles weaponized by
Speaker 3: the dumb ass people online of like.
Speaker 1: This is a Star Wars game we all want. Look, kude,
Speaker 1: there's no girls in it. Yep, yeah, the fuck yeah?
Speaker 1: I yeah, I hope it could have played.
Speaker 2: Star Wars Bounty Hunter came out right and it's like
Speaker 2: it didn't get that that treatment. So I hope that,
Speaker 2: like for the most part, of these games just come
Speaker 2: out do their thing, people can enjoy them. And really,
Speaker 2: what this makes me think is, oh, they're even doing
Speaker 2: Star Wars Episode one Jedi Power Battles that like, is
Speaker 2: everything on the table now? Like I Aspire keeps like
Speaker 2: kind of just going through the next one.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: And then I think after Star Wars, after Star Wars
Speaker 2: Bounty Hunters, in fact, including Star Wars Bounty Hunters, I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, are they just they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna keep doing this? So does that mean we get
Speaker 1: like do they start going even further back?
Speaker 2: Do we get like the re releases of Tie Fighter
Speaker 2: and Rebel Assault and X Wing and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: And can we get the N sixty four games from
Speaker 2: Factor five?
Speaker 1: Can we get Rogue Squadron? Can we get a Battle
Speaker 1: for Naboo? Have they done Phantom Menace?
Speaker 2: I don't think they've done PlayStation one Phantom Menace like that,
Speaker 2: Like all those would be really excellent to see and
Speaker 2: it seems like a Spier's team is like willing to
Speaker 2: do the work to get the rights for these things
Speaker 2: figured out.
Speaker 1: He just gave me a ratitude moment by saying, fans
Speaker 1: Menace game on the PS one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a real soft spot for that game.
Speaker 2: It just looks so crunchy in a good satisfying way.
Speaker 2: If they ported the pod Racing game they they did,
Speaker 2: I think that was a spire that is, it's not
Speaker 2: ported everywhere. Like this game just was like, Oh, it's
Speaker 2: because like you go on Steam to get a pod
Speaker 2: Racer and it's not the good version. It's like kind
Speaker 2: of an older version that's been that was released in
Speaker 2: like the later two thousands I think.
Speaker 1: But if you go on the Switch you get that
Speaker 1: version and it rules. It's very very good. I've been
Speaker 1: actually playing that last couple of weeks. I love that game.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 2: So there's still more they could do with something like that,
Speaker 2: But like the Force Unleashed feels like something that, oh,
Speaker 2: that might be time to look at.
Speaker 1: Re releasing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bunch of Clone Wars games, even kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit later, but they've done okay, they've
Speaker 2: done Republic Commando, the Knights of the Old Republic games Battlefront.
Speaker 1: They did that.
Speaker 2: They did the Jedi games for the most part, Dark
Speaker 2: Forces and Jedi Academy, Jedi Outcast, I believe, but they've
Speaker 2: not yet. They've not done Phantom Menace, Rogue Squadron. Let's see,
Speaker 2: I got a list here. I'm trying to see there's
Speaker 2: anthing else that really stands out. I mean, obviously the
Speaker 2: game cube Star Wars games as well. So yeah, have
Speaker 2: they done Obi Wan for Xbox? Like, Yeah, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of options here where Like if they are doing
Speaker 2: Jedi Power Battles, I feel like a lot more of
Speaker 2: these are on the table.
Speaker 1: Give me Jedi Academy grub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now did they do because they did Jedi Outcast?
Speaker 2: Did they do Jedi Academy? So I'm trying to like,
Speaker 2: I think they I know they did Jedi Outcast, I think,
Speaker 2: but I can't.
Speaker 1: I know. I feel like they missed one.
Speaker 2: Of those in the Dark Forces series, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: It's hard to remember all of them either way. I
Speaker 2: like Star Wars games. I like these this era of
Speaker 2: Star Wars games. Hopeful that they can kind of keep
Speaker 2: doing this until they get through the entire lists. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Rogue Squadron to the game Cube launch game would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: That's the one I want the most. Imagine that was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead, No, no, no, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: say I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think Nintendo, I think is.
Speaker 2: Involved in publishing those games in some way. So maybe
Speaker 2: they would only be on Switch, but whatever, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna I wouldn't complain about that. I think that would
Speaker 2: be completely fine. And I think aspires like yeah, those
Speaker 2: one the switch versions tend to sell the most, if
Speaker 2: not the second most, to maybe Steam. So we're we're
Speaker 2: happy to just do a game that's only going to
Speaker 2: release on switch, all right?
Speaker 1: Should I?
Speaker 3: Or the Force Unleashed? Wild to think that the original
Speaker 3: one came out in two thousand and eight? Eight?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we are approaching twenty years for that, right,
Speaker 1: we'ret so that we're sixteen years old right now? Yep,
Speaker 1: that's pretty wild.
Speaker 3: Let me be star Killer's like the edgy star Killer
Speaker 3: versus Calcasts Sorry Cal, Yeah Cal also a bit too
Speaker 3: h a milk toast for that. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 3: see here, keep going. Bresident Evil two is coming to iPhone,
Speaker 3: iPad and mac.
Speaker 1: This year. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC.
Speaker 2: Capcom will release Resident Evil to the remake for iPhone, iPad,
Speaker 2: and Mac later this year, following in the footsteps of
Speaker 2: its Resident Evil four seven and Village mobile ports. The
Speaker 2: game will hit at the App Store on December thirty first,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. It will be supported on iPhone fifteen models,
Speaker 2: iPhone sixteen, and every iPad and Mac with the M
Speaker 2: one chip and later. Like the previous Resident Evil releases
Speaker 2: on iOS, the beginning of the game will be playable
Speaker 2: for free.
Speaker 1: For the full title, you will need.
Speaker 2: To be to unlock it via the an in store
Speaker 2: or an an app purchase in the store. While Capcom
Speaker 2: hasn't confirmed how much it will cost Resident Evil seven
Speaker 2: in Village or twenty dollars RESIDUABL four.
Speaker 1: With sixty dollars, so maybe somewhere between those two.
Speaker 2: Mostly brought this up because it's like, oh, they're still
Speaker 2: doing this, because the last we heard were that these
Speaker 2: games didn't sell anything, at least not on mobile. Maybe
Speaker 2: they sold better on Mac, but I doubt it. But
Speaker 2: on like the mobile versions for iOS and iPad, it
Speaker 2: was tens of thousands of copies, maybe like maybe one
Speaker 2: ten of thousands of copies. It's it was pretty rough stuff.
Speaker 2: So what do you think is happening here? You think
Speaker 2: Apple's just still like paying Capcom to do this or
Speaker 2: what Sean nailed?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 3: More likely Apple probably just paid for an extended deal,
Speaker 3: and this is part of it that makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: It's kind the only thing that makes sense, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see that Capcom is jumping at the
Speaker 3: bit to like finish these ports so more people cannot
Speaker 3: play it on their phones and iPads max et cetera. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we chatted about this on the BombCast, but
Speaker 3: I don't think people are coming to their phones to
Speaker 3: play a full experience like this, even in an iPad,
Speaker 3: where like an iPad specific use power user is conditioned
Speaker 3: to play still not conditioned to play this type of game,
Speaker 3: right grub Like, it's definitely not small bite size experiences
Speaker 3: versus like a full full campaign of a game.
Speaker 1: And just also prop the value proposition is so off right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just anything like starts at more than a
Speaker 2: dollar is not even considered, and honestly the things that
Speaker 2: cost a dollar also aren't considered.
Speaker 1: They go for all the free games period.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny though to like think like people
Speaker 3: will one hundred percent jump through the hoop of okay, yes,
Speaker 3: free game, Oh you want ten dollars now, all right,
Speaker 3: and then that loop happens at least two three more
Speaker 3: times that it winds up equating to a full price
Speaker 3: game eventually down the line. But me, if I'm seeing
Speaker 3: Resident Evil four is sixty dollars on my phone, I'm like, ah, no, thank.
Speaker 1: You, yep, I do say.
Speaker 2: I will say though that you know these things are
Speaker 2: this is a pretty impressive thing technologically because Resident Evil,
Speaker 2: to Resume, Bele four, Residuvil seven Village, all these games
Speaker 2: beautiful games, uh, And when you run them on your
Speaker 2: PC or your consoles, there's an active cooler cooling those
Speaker 2: chips to keep them cool enough so they don't overheat.
Speaker 1: To actually run these things.
Speaker 2: And this is going to run on a MacBook Air
Speaker 2: with an M one chip that has passive cooling that
Speaker 2: doesn't have any active cooling on.
Speaker 1: It or whatever. That is.
Speaker 2: That's wild and I think it shows that the future
Speaker 2: really is these these risk architecture chips, these ARM chips
Speaker 2: that are way more efficient and are getting super powerful.
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible stuff. Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: Does this turn anything down the line, like does the
Speaker 2: Apple make their own version of a Steam deck?
Speaker 1: Does gaming become more of a pillar.
Speaker 2: It's just they've said a million times it would become
Speaker 2: more of a pillar for app for iOS and for
Speaker 2: Mac from Apple itself, It's never really ever worked out
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: I swear I just let a three month Apple Arcade
Speaker 1: trial period.
Speaker 3: Lapse because I just didn't claim it. And then I
Speaker 3: think Apple send me an email this morning saying like, hey,
Speaker 3: we extended it if you want to sign up for
Speaker 3: it now, So they're definitely still making the push. And
Speaker 3: also there are neat titles out on Apple Arcade for sure.
Speaker 3: It's just I look to my phone for a couple things,
Speaker 3: and more experience is just not what I'm after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then that stuff for New Games effect for Apple
Speaker 2: Arcade Wheel Fortune Daily would.
Speaker 1: See, but Arcanoid plus Arcanoid Versus Space.
Speaker 2: Invaders plus something I want to check out, and now
Speaker 2: it's completely Uh that plus means it doesn't have any
Speaker 2: of the weird monetization stuff in it. I would want
Speaker 2: to check that out. And that's just the most recent game.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of other stuff in there that's worth
Speaker 2: checking out, Yeah real quick.
Speaker 3: Would any of this stuff I forget if it has it,
Speaker 3: But would any of the stuff work on the Apple
Speaker 3: Vision Pro. So that doesn't have an m one ship,
Speaker 3: does it?
Speaker 2: I bet it has an like family chip in there.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think it would work. It's like
Speaker 2: something you could play as like a hovering screen in
Speaker 2: the Apple Vision Pro. Yeah, but I gotta be honest
Speaker 2: you until you said it, I forgot the Apple Vision
Speaker 2: Pro existed.
Speaker 1: That is the one instance here where I'd be down
Speaker 1: to check out any of these games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, if I had an Apple Vision Pro,
Speaker 2: I really do enjoy as weird as it is the
Speaker 2: meta Quest three putting that on and having the video
Speaker 2: games as a big screen hovering like kicking back on
Speaker 2: the on the bean bag and having a controller and
Speaker 2: actually just streaming it from a computer onto the meta
Speaker 2: Quest three for the using Steam. That works really well.
Speaker 2: It's a good time. So I think that's a fine
Speaker 2: way to play games. Apple Vision Pro obviously a bit
Speaker 2: expensive for that whole scenario, but it does it better
Speaker 2: actually because it runs it natively.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. Yeah, Like if you were an
Speaker 1: Apple Vision Pro user that has been looking to bust
Speaker 1: that thang out again. If these work, that'd be cool. Yep,
Speaker 1: people went out the Vision Pro.
Speaker 2: It's basically a MacBook Pro into stuffed into a headset,
Speaker 2: so very powerful actually one of the reasons it's so
Speaker 2: exct expensive.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Video game sales jumped to twenty percent in Europe during September.
Speaker 2: You know, games like EAA Sports FC twenty five topped
Speaker 2: the list. Then The Crew two, which I think I
Speaker 2: think it was because they were gonna stop selling it,
Speaker 2: so did everyone rush out and get it?
Speaker 1: What the hell is happening over there? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Warhammer forty K Space Marine two was number three. It
Speaker 2: is quickly becoming the fast or the best selling Warhammer
Speaker 2: forty K game.
Speaker 1: Ever. It was on sale for a dollar thank you
Speaker 1: service game. That's okay, that explains it.
Speaker 2: Hogwarts Legacy or Astrobots was number four. Hogwarts Legacy number five,
Speaker 2: NBA two K twenty five number six, Grand Theft Auto
Speaker 2: five number seven.
Speaker 1: Then the Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom was number eight, but.
Speaker 2: That's without digital sales, it's only physical sales. And then
Speaker 2: the Crew Motorfest at number nine, probably also a dollar
Speaker 2: and another newer game Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown was
Speaker 2: at number ten. Mostly this is notable that this chart
Speaker 2: here because there were some games getting people out EA
Speaker 2: Sports FC kind of launching of getting people excited, and
Speaker 2: yet the Switch was the only.
Speaker 1: Console to grow year over year in terms of hardware sales.
Speaker 2: Now, that's probably because of Echoes of Wisdom and that
Speaker 2: gold Gold Switch light, but it was up like one
Speaker 2: point five percent or something like that. Meanwhile, I think
Speaker 2: the PlayStation five was down seventeen percent and the Xbox
Speaker 2: is down fifty eight percent, and that was supposed to
Speaker 2: because Starfield had launched the year before, so it.
Speaker 1: Was always going to be a tough comparison.
Speaker 2: But also we've seen months where that wasn't the case,
Speaker 2: where Xbox has been down like forty five percent year
Speaker 2: over year, so it's not some huge outlier. Weird that
Speaker 2: Switch is the only console still growing. Are we still
Speaker 2: kind of in a hangover from the early pandemic console
Speaker 2: shortage days and that's what's explaining this or something else
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think about, like, what is someone that
Speaker 3: is buying a Nintendo Switch in twenty twenty four, specifically,
Speaker 3: Fall of twenty twenty four, Like what are they after?
Speaker 1: Like where are they at in their lives? Where? What
Speaker 1: are they trying to play?
Speaker 3: If it's not right, if it's not an animal crossing,
Speaker 3: because animal crossing was a gigantic thing during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: It's not like there's a like I know that Zelda
Speaker 3: carries a huge fervor behind it, but I can't imagine
Speaker 3: that this is the Zelda game to push people over right.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's doing a based on what I
Speaker 2: can remember here, something a little bit faster than Link's Wakening,
Speaker 2: which was that the remake that this one is by
Speaker 2: the same team look looks pretty similar to So it
Speaker 2: has about that much energy, and I think Links Awakening
Speaker 2: it ended up going on to sell about five six
Speaker 2: million copies, maybe more by now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like Greb, is it you think it's really
Speaker 3: an instance of people just getting an second or third
Speaker 3: switch in their household.
Speaker 2: I think it explained a lot of it, Especially for
Speaker 2: a switch light coming out that is based on the
Speaker 2: Zelda one. I think people are like, I'll get this one,
Speaker 2: I'll use this and I'll give my other switch light
Speaker 2: to the my kid or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean like at this point, like a
Speaker 3: you give a switch light to like a kid, there
Speaker 3: is like so many games to occupy themselves with. And
Speaker 3: I guess because like that ecosystem is so locked off,
Speaker 3: you don't really have to worry about the titles that
Speaker 3: are being put out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I think when it comes to PlayStation and Xbox,
Speaker 2: I mean, we know what's going on with Xbox. They
Speaker 2: they are not emphasizing the importance of the box and
Speaker 2: people are saying, Okay, I think PlayStation, there's a chance
Speaker 2: that people began to get word of the PS five
Speaker 2: pro coming and maybe they hesitated a little bit. They're like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm this month, we're gonna take a break. But we've
Speaker 2: also again, we've also seen months where the PS five
Speaker 2: was down other than this month and about an equivalent
Speaker 2: amount down fifteen percent of down seventeen percent. There are
Speaker 2: there has been have been months where it was down
Speaker 2: even more than that, down like thirty percent. So you know,
Speaker 2: if we were trying to like say no, maybe there
Speaker 2: is something happening here, I think it probably would be.
Speaker 2: Consoles are still pretty expensive, and the people who wanted
Speaker 2: to get one, did get one. There was maybe a
Speaker 2: glut of rushing out to get these consoles to the
Speaker 2: point where people were holding on to extra consoles. Some
Speaker 2: scalpers were holding on to extra consoles, and then then
Speaker 2: maybe they flooded the market when it was time to
Speaker 2: cash in on that and so that maybe they sold
Speaker 2: them at a loss or something like that. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that the consoles just don't feel like they're
Speaker 2: growing right now, that like overall just doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: there's a lot of new console gamers join in the market.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the underlying scenario here, right, mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: that feels that feels accurate. There's also I hate I
Speaker 1: hate grub that it does feel like we are in
Speaker 1: the lull before the switch to and GTA six.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that when I see this, when I
Speaker 2: see these numbers, it really does make me think like, oh,
Speaker 2: a lot of the market is waiting for the switch too,
Speaker 2: because that's they feel like that's the one thing they
Speaker 2: feel like they can rely on to grow. We'll see
Speaker 2: that even happens compare relative to the switch. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that people are waiting on that, And of
Speaker 2: course g T six will kind of just change how
Speaker 2: everything works.
Speaker 3: And I think it's smart of Nintendo to be like
Speaker 3: really flexing on these like special edition switch lights or
Speaker 3: like o LED switches, where like, hey, we're not gonna
Speaker 3: make these super numbered or super limited. If you want
Speaker 3: to get this as a collector's item or like as
Speaker 3: a gift, by all means, go and get it, versus
Speaker 3: like the thirtieth anniversary PlayStation where it is or PlayStation
Speaker 3: five Pro where it is super limited despite the fervor
Speaker 3: and excitement behind it. Looking at these this chart, though,
Speaker 3: I am pretty jazz for Space Marine two to get
Speaker 3: a lot of love because it's a solid game. I
Speaker 3: wish we had the time to roll back up. Space
Speaker 3: Marine mondays, Yeah, we'll find it.
Speaker 1: Time to do some more Space Marine mondays. What we'll
Speaker 1: have to make that happen. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The nerd in me grub The nerd in me, I
Speaker 3: scoffed at first. It's seeing Hogwarts like I can see
Speaker 3: on this chart. Then I realized, oh, for September, these
Speaker 3: fucking nerds are trying to start their year at Hogwarts because.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yep, let's school year started. Yep Astrobot at four.
Speaker 2: I think this is still like this is like the
Speaker 2: second month on the chart for that right, so still
Speaker 2: being at four for astrobat.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good too. Like to see that.
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, last little thing here following it's e a split.
Speaker 2: FIFA's partnering with Konami for E sports. This randy orroposite
Speaker 2: of VGC. This is not oh, Konami is making the
Speaker 2: new FIFA games. What this is is, uh, FIFA has
Speaker 2: the E Sports World Cup, the World Cup E or
Speaker 2: whatever it's called. H yeah, FIFA E World Cup there
Speaker 2: it is. And now instead of having a sports games
Speaker 2: there having the FIFA games there, they will have E
Speaker 2: football from Konami, which used to be Pro Evolution Soccer
Speaker 2: and and that's that's basically just like they have complete
Speaker 2: broken up with AA, which we've known, but it's interesting
Speaker 2: to see Konami kind of filling in that gap. Maybe
Speaker 2: that does lead to a FIFA partnership for the E
Speaker 2: football games down the line. But the whole reason that
Speaker 2: EA and FIFA broke up in the first place was
Speaker 2: FIFA was asking for a billion dollars for the naming rights.
Speaker 2: And we see how EA Sports Football Club works today
Speaker 2: without FIFA. It was really just for the name FIFA
Speaker 2: because everything else is pretty much the same. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: won't have the World Cup in there. When the World
Speaker 2: Cup is here, they got all the players, all the teams,
Speaker 2: all the leagues. They got more leagues and more players
Speaker 2: than ever. So it's like what services was where what
Speaker 2: you value? Was FIFA really providing all? Not all that much?
Speaker 2: So is Konami a company that you know makes quite
Speaker 2: a bit of money, is successful, but it's maybe not
Speaker 2: making as much money from their football game.
Speaker 1: As EA is. Are they going to pony up one
Speaker 1: billion dollars to the FIFA name? Probably not right.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that Konami would. But that being said,
Speaker 3: Konami has been making very odd moves in the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, so I would have completely put it
Speaker 3: past them to explore this as another means of making money. Yep, well,
Speaker 3: Panami like money.
Speaker 1: Don't come canam do like money? Kami make a new
Speaker 1: Castlevania game already? What is going on?
Speaker 2: The rumors are out there, BGC, Jordan, Jordan Midler, Andy Robinson,
Speaker 2: you've said it would happen.
Speaker 1: It better happened. Come on, Jordan, come on, Jordan, Andy, Andrew,
Speaker 1: give me my Castlevania. All right, that does it for
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 2: Uh let's get to the poll question, which I will
Speaker 2: pull up over here right now. I have a guilty
Speaker 2: gear song on your screen.
Speaker 1: Uh, there we go. Okay, So questions.
Speaker 2: We have two questions actually from yesterday. First, are you
Speaker 2: getting Nintendo Alarmo? Nine percent said yes, thirty five percent
Speaker 2: said no, and fifty six percent said they're rubbing their
Speaker 2: temples and sign and saying W. So that sounds about right.
Speaker 2: I am a proud nine percenter. I hope that doesn't
Speaker 2: have any negative connotations. The other pole question bonus bull
Speaker 2: which is better duck Hunt or We Sports. Duck Hunt
Speaker 2: got twenty seven percent of the results and we Sports
Speaker 2: got seventy three percent of the votes, so we Sports
Speaker 2: keeps winning. Sorry to Mike Manatti, who of course favored
Speaker 2: duck Hunt when he.
Speaker 1: Was given this option. Mike Manatti is only a couple
Speaker 1: of years older than me, right, but that is the
Speaker 1: most boomer ass Mike. I love you dearly. You were
Speaker 1: a great glad being and I feel like my life
Speaker 1: is ultimately better with you in it.
Speaker 2: He's saying, oh my god, chat but he he himself
Speaker 2: knew this was going to be his most boomer take.
Speaker 2: He said that when when he said it publicly.
Speaker 3: This isn't even about folks like liking to ras Mikey
Speaker 3: and vote against them in a poll.
Speaker 1: Now, this is not it.
Speaker 4: Like the worldwide reach of we sports is insane. There
Speaker 4: are people still playing it, old people still playing it
Speaker 4: to this day. Yeah, and no one is fired up
Speaker 4: dug Hunt. Like I like the idea of duck Hunt,
Speaker 4: but playing it it wears out so fast. And we
Speaker 4: sports there are like I could play bowling for like
Speaker 4: a couple hours, Like we can have a tournament and
Speaker 4: make it like a drinking game and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and that would be a good time.
Speaker 1: I guess you can make duck Hunt drinking game, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that would be as fun.
Speaker 2: And eventually someone's just gonna take the the what's the
Speaker 2: blaster Master, the Ennya Zapper, take it up the screen
Speaker 2: and just fire it directly at the.
Speaker 1: Screen, and everyone's gonna be like, all right, I give up,
Speaker 1: who cares anymore? All right? We got a new pole question.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that here in a second.
Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, Jen Giant Bomas website about
Speaker 2: video games, we got some stuff happening today that people
Speaker 2: are gonna want to know about.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to be playing dragon Ball Sparking zero
Speaker 3: on the website. What we'll check out will check out
Speaker 3: the game. We'll we'll futs around and fools around inside
Speaker 3: of that. And later today there's still time, folks, if
Speaker 3: you have yet to get your voicemails in, call into
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Speaker 1: Dump Truck because we have our friend, our dear friend.
Speaker 3: Chef Reactions seven h seven Exit Flu Mike Minatti, Dan Reiker,
Speaker 3: Jeff Backlar returning to the dumb Truck as well as
Speaker 3: Chef Reactions. Tomorrow Jeff Grubb another episode of Game Mess Mornings.
Speaker 1: We're going to immediately following that, Tomorrow is going to
Speaker 1: be a jam jam Pack, jam Pack Day.
Speaker 3: It's going to be back to back to back programming
Speaker 3: because we will have Games Mornings, and then immediately after
Speaker 3: that we will have bcr a Metaphor Refantasio Review Cast.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Lex Lutti on the pod. We're also
Speaker 3: gonna have Jessica Cogswell from GameSpot herbash on myself and
Speaker 3: maybe we can get du Boy Michael him on as well.
Speaker 3: And then immediately following that, Jeff grub almost immediately following that,
Speaker 3: we have the newest season of Blake Club in folks,
Speaker 3: it's Lucy James's turn.
Speaker 2: It's Lucy's stay. I'm so excited she is gonna be playing. Well,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to tune in to find out. All right, Yeah, Friday,
Speaker 2: the big reveal. It's gonna go like this. She's got
Speaker 2: a package in her home right now that I sent
Speaker 2: her from Amazon. She will leave to the privacy of
Speaker 2: her quarters and get dressed up in this costume, come out,
Speaker 2: and then we'll have e her try to guess game
Speaker 2: she's playing, because she's still not gonna know.
Speaker 1: She will not know.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be very fun and you're gonna want to
Speaker 2: enjoy all of that. And again, if you're wondering why
Speaker 2: Lucy's on Blake Club one, that's a great thing. We're
Speaker 2: happy to have her two. She was the loser of
Speaker 2: the Pax panel the Blake Club Packspanal, which is a
Speaker 2: ton of fun. You should go back and watch that.
Speaker 1: Is she gonna be the loser of the Fantasy League
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Looks like it, although I think she did finally make
Speaker 2: some moves, so I think she's trying to avoid being
Speaker 2: last place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, okay, all right, all right, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: This is the needed thing I've ever seen a chat
Speaker 3: about Lucy In the Giant Bomb chat, someone says, please
Speaker 3: be a giraffe.
Speaker 1: Good on chat. God, but yeah, maybe we'll see all right, God.
Speaker 1: New poole question to Lucy. I feel like I'm still
Speaker 1: on her shit list. New poole question. Nintendo's testing a
Speaker 1: mystery Nintendo Switch online feature. What is it?
Speaker 2: Remote play together, social platform achievements, cloud streaming, family library sharing?
Speaker 2: Do we want any other options on there?
Speaker 1: Everybody? Was there anything else that we missed? I think
Speaker 1: I think that's probably good. We'll get a gun, all right,
Speaker 1: a gun? There we go. All right, we'll get the
Speaker 1: results of that. Talk about it on.
Speaker 2: Game this morning is tomorrow here on giant Bomb once again,
Speaker 2: speaking to Giant Bomb chef reactions later on voicemail Dump Truck,
Speaker 2: I don't miss it, Sparking zero.
Speaker 1: We'll be hanging out. When does Sparking zero start? Were
Speaker 1: doing that at one, I believe an hour from now, Yes,
Speaker 1: an hour from now. So we'll see you all for that.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, Jana Chilla, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: hanging out with me today and talking about video games.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Man, it's the only way to
Speaker 1: start a Thursday.
Speaker 2: Greb, thank you all for watching and listening. You're the
Speaker 2: best audience in gaming. And until next time, have a
Speaker 2: good one, take care of yourself and go Tigers.