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Speaker 1: Hard times. Indeed, if that doesn't get the adrenaline, go

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and check your pulse, you might be dead. As I

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like to say, Let's see, so I see him, he

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is on the line with us. Let's see if we

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can hear him. Harley Flanagan, Are you there, sir?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me? I?

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Speaker 1: Can can you hear me? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I can you hear you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Welcome to the program. I am very excited to

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speak with you because so I've always been aware of

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you and certainly aware of the Cromags. I did not

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know much about your backstory, so I've kind of taken

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a crash course in the last couple of days on

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Harley Flannagan and you have had had quite a life.

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And by the way, I did check out the trailer

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two for Wired for Chaos. I am dying to see that.

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That looks that looks fascinating. But that's not out yet. Correct?

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Is it coming out soon?

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Speaker 2: Actually, it's going to be airing about airing. It's going

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to be in theaters starting June fifteenth. They are having

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four They're showing it four times here in New York

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at the Roxy Cinema. I'm going to be there Q

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and A, And it's also going to be showing in

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La San Francisco, Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Austin,

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and there's a bunch of other places getting lined up

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and over between now and July, I'm going to be

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flying all over the place doing like Q and AS

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at these showings.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I think I've heard that in August

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it's going to be doing a pay per view type

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of event following the release on DVD and stuff like that.

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So it's so pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that is really cool.

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Speaker 3: What is that like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, obviously, have you have you sat

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the subjects of documentary films. They'll tell you, oh, no,

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so I have seen it, but it was definitely a

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nerve wracking process because I didn't get to see anything

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until it was finished, and I was not privy or

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a little nervous, but I think they I think they

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did a pretty good job. I mean it's really hard

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to tell, you know, an entire life in you know,

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an hour and change, but they managed to do a

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to seeing it. I assume after, you know, after the

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run in theaters, it'll be on do you know where

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it's going to be. I assume it'll be on a

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streaming service like Netflix or something like that.

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I'm actually not so involved with this. I mean, I'm

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the subject of it, but you know, my thing is

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still music, and I'm you know, I'm I'm going on

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tour Monday, I'm flying to Europe. So I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, your story is fascinating to

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me because you're an example of someone who really overcame

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a lot your childhood. Uh, from what I've heard you

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and watched and read pretty uh, pretty hellish existence compared

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of a pre gentrification or however you want to talk

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where you grew up and and and and what you

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went through. Uh, growing up was was pretty rough, which

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sort of that aggression, and it's a subject that comes

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but yeah, you know, I definitely have had an interesting

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more or less in one piece. And you know, I

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mean things are going great for me. You know, Like

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from this tour. I literally I land at the airport

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this day, Like, I'm putting down Baggs and I'm going

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or anything that you've done might not even know this,

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but obviously people who pay attention know. And I've been

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learning about it jiu jitsu and the role that that

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particular thing that I was trying to overcome or work through.

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really shaped you. That experience of getting into jiu jitsu,

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which you got into at a pretty young age, right,

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first generation of Americans that was training under any of

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the Brazilian Black belts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, Master hands Up is my master and my

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mentor and close friend and more like a brother to

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me than anything else. And you know, I was just

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Speaker 2: And you know, I mean I have you know, I've

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and you know, jiu jitsu really keeps me together, keeps

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my head on straight, gives me a place to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, when you first got into it, did you know?

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those days, of course Blockbuster VHS, renting a Blockbuster.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like that long ago. But at the

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same time, it's like when the hell was that?

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into it, when you first started training, were you surprised

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of organizing your brain in a way that's that's positive

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and helpful and obviously too, you know, you get those

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endorphins going and everything, and that helps you emotionally. And

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you aside from just the obvious or did you kind

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started because of the fighting aspects of it. But I

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best friends of my life through jiu jitsu. I think

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it attracts you know, intelligent people, you know people you

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think that combat athletes are just you know, fighters are

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like knuckleheads and you know, not too smart. They just

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know how to smash each other or whatever. But I'll

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really it's like playing chess, like physical chess. Sure who

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really really sharp, man. And it changed my life for

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the better in so many ways. Like I literally, you know,

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combat or the violence or whatever, there's no way I'd

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twenty twenty five, I'm still rolling, still loving it, and

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that's my that's where my friends are. Yeah, and I'm

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just really lucky that that this came to me, to me, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, absolutely, thank God for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, huh. And I'm glad you said what

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you said too about you know, intelligent people. This is

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something that they do because You're right, there is a misconception,

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run into it constantly. Still, you know that that people

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who do this are just you know, muscleheads who want

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to smash each other, and they don't understand that. No,

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it is much deeper than that, and it is complicated.

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who were pursuing M m A as a career, or

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people who just liked to fight. It did initially attract

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quick because you really can't be in that world too

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you're gonna leave, right. You know, if you can't, if

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you can't handle defeat with grace, you're not gonna last. Yeah,

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giving them a hug. If you can't handle that, you're

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of you know, belief in yourself, and you have you know,

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any combat situation you have to go in like, yeah,

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I'm gonna you out. But at the same time, you know.

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Speaker 1: Harley, Harley, not not to interrupt, but I just have

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to remind you we are on FM radio.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sorry totally.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 8: You know what, I have been doing some podcasts and

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videos the last few days. I've lost It's okay, I

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forget no, no, but I hope you can out.

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Speaker 1: No no worries, my friend. We're we're, we're that's okay.

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We're on an eight second delay, so I was able

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to catch it. So no big deal. Don't don't even

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smid it. Don't even swid it.

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Speaker 8: That's my natural New York. It just slips out. You mean,

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it's one of the Yeah, it was not easy. When

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I was teaching the kids class, I.

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Speaker 1: Can imagine no, no, no, that's cold.

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Speaker 2: And the parents did too, so excellent.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what counts. That's what counts. Absolutely. That must be.

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Speaker 2: Little parents how to be you know, tough. So I

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think your parents appreciated it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that must be so rewarding too, to be able

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to teach young people who are getting into it. Yeah,

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that must be. So.

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Speaker 2: I was constructor and I was running that program for

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like ten years, but I had to stop working at

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the Academy because I started touring so much again. Yeah,

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you know, when when my kids were younger, I took

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a break from touring for a while and I was

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really just focusing on being dad. And you know, I

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it was awesome. It was some of the best some

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of the best experiences and times of my life were

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just being dad.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you know, once they got a little older, and

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you know, it's time for me to get back to work.

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I mean, I I music is my life. It always

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has been martial arts is part of my life. But

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you know, I make a living playing music, and you know,

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it pays me better than you know, teaching jiu jitsu.

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And if I had to pick one or the other,

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I don't know if I really could, because I you know,

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it's they're both really a part of who I am.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so speak of music. So you got into I

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mean you were you were a teenager right when you

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started playing playing bass. I'm a bass player, by the way,

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so I'm I'm particularly interested in this, but I mean,

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how old were you when you started playing? You were

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pretty young, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was. I did my first tour in a

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punk rock.

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Speaker 1: Bandit can Oh my god. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I put out my first record when I was twelve,

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and that was a pretty legendary forty five called loud

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Fast Rules. My old band the Stimulators, and we were,

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you know, we were a punk band, but we were

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kind of the forerunners of what would become the New

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York hardcore scene. Yeah, like all the basically we you know,

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we were more of a punk band, like I say,

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but all of our fans, the kids that were at

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our shows were pretty much the first generation of New

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York hardcore. Bands. Okay, you know, Agnostic Front was in

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our audience cause for Alarm, the Mob, Urban Wastes, like

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pretty much the entire first generation of New York hardcore

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bands came out of our audience. So although we were

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not a hardcore band, we were definitely very influential. You know,

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we really kind of created a space for those kids

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because well, I think also a lot of it had

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to do with the fact that I was so young,

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so you know, that attracted younger kids as opposed to

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like all of the throwback punk rockers that had been

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hanging out at me axes and CBS, who for the

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most part were all you know, messed up on drugs.

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A lot of them were junkies, and you know, it

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was a pretty it was a pretty grimy scene. You know.

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I mean the majority of the people that I knew

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when I was a kid, you know, they were in

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their early twenties and stuff. And many of the punk

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rockers back then we're you know, working in the in

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the sex shows on you know, in Times Square, you know,

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screwing on stage and stuff for their drug money, and

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a lot of the chicks were prostitutes and you know

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or you know, strippers, that stripping was nothing. You know,

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most of them literally were prostitutes and doing live sex

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shows to support their drug habits. And these were the

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people I hung out with when I was twelve, you know,

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so you know, really there's it's no wonder that by

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the time I was, you know, fifteen, I was already

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living on the streets and you know, shooting meth and

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smoking PCP and wow, you name it. Yeah, I definitely

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didn't have a normal upbringing. And you know when when

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everybody around you, is it when all the adults are

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pretty much well not all, but like ninety eight percent

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of them are a mess? Yeah, learned, you.

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Speaker 1: Know exactly exactly. I'm curious to being so young in

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the punk scene. Were were you easily accepted or was

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there any resistance to that? Did some people look at

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you like, you know, who's this kid?

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Speaker 2: He's because everybody who's this kid? But he was always

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I mean, look, my aunt was in the Stimulators that

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band formed before I came to New York. I was

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in Europe at the time, actually in England when they

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were playing. I was going to shows in England. I

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was going to punk shows there. I meant to like

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the one hundred Club and all those legendary places back then. Yeah,

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when I was ten, you know, so, but you know,

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I mean I get yeah, I definitely was a standout

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character on the scene because everybody else was an adult

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more or less. I mean, you had your you know,

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eighteen nineteen twenty year olds, you know, mostly young chicks.

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But you know, I was definitely uh, but they accepted me.

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I mean, how do you not accept the kid who

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was at the show? I mean, you know, I was

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just walking around bumming quarters and playing timball what well?

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Speaker 1: Also too, I mean having a family member and that

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what was it your aunt who was in the band

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with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, no, go ahead, no, So is that how

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is that how you became a member of the band,

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Because I just wonder, like, if you didn't have a

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family member in the band, would people have been more

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would the other members have been more resistant to bringing

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you in because you were so young?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Possibly, But you know what it was, it was really circumstantial.

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Like they had they were gigging band. Yeah, they had

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their drummer, Bob Weier. They replaced him with Johnny Blitz

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from the Dead Boys, so he was playing them right

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before me and you know, I had been going to

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their shows. I'd seen them live a bunch of times,

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and I used to I actually would get up on

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stage with them once in a while and play a

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song or two. And you know, I used to go

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to their practices. I knew their material. And so what

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happened was Johnny Blitz bailed out on them one time

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the day of a show that I don't know if

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he was, like, you know, he might have been dope,

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sick or something, I don't know, but he did not

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show up and they couldn't find them, and they went

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to his house looking for him, and he was not

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answering his door, and this and that so and he's

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was like, guess what, Harley, your playing drum tonight? And

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I was like, all right, you know, and I remember

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the show actually was in Philadelphia, the first show I

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did with them, and I remember literally sitting in the

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back of the vand with a phone book and drumsticks,

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like playing the whole way up, just trying to, you know,

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remember all the parts to the songs. And that was it, man,

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that first show. The audience was so receptive and excited,

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and you know, they I think it was really we

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were probably one of the first New York punk bands

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to ever make it to you know, North Carolina and

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South Carolina and stuff like that. So they were super

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pumped and and people were blown away. I mean we

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had two chicks in the band and a little kid

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in this crazy little day dude on vocals. We were

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definitely you definitely interesting. You know, there was nothing else

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like us, that's for damn sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how it started for me. And

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I mean I had already, I had been in a

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band already, I was already out doing stuff. I'd been

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on a tour already, and yeah, I mean this has

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been my whole life, dude. I've been literally playing music

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and going to show since before I can remember. I

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mean my mom was a hippie and used to bring

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me to concerts and clubs, and you know, before I remember.

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You know, if you see photos of like Jefferson Airplane

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and there's like all, you know, naked children running around

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in front of stage, I was one of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no time before music in my life.

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Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then so so then was there anything between the

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stimulators and the Cromags or was the Cromags the next band.

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Speaker 2: I was in a band called Mode of Ignorance, Okay,

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and I was also a founding member of the band

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Murphy's Law. I actually came up with the name of

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that band. But you know, I think the most significant

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thing that I've done musically has been the Chrome Eggs.

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You know, we've we've been going now strong since our

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first record came out in eighty six. The first recordings

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that we did came out, we put them out in

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like eighty four on cassette, I believe it or not. Yeah,

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and we've been you know, I've been active ever since,

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you know, so yeah, pretty long run. Yeah, things are

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going well. I mean we're still out playing, out playing festivals,

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and you know, life is good. Man. You know, most

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bands don't last you know, five minutes, forget about forty

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plus years.

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Speaker 1: No, it is remarkable. I mean, do you feel the

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weight of that legacy. I mean it's it's because you

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were at the forefront of so much, especially you know,

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the way the way you started out in New York

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and everything and the scene. I mean do you feel like, like,

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like do people talk to you and they tell you,

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oh man, You're like like, obviously you get a lot

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of credit for what you've done. I mean, is that

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ever overwhelming to you? Do you feel like a certain

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level of responsibility that that like you have to continue

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to to carry that flag, carry that banner and and

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and really represent or or are you just or are

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you comfortable with it all?

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Speaker 2: Uh? That's a good question. You know, it's a little

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bit of both. I guess yeah, I mean, I I

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I'm comfortable with it because I have never known anything else. Yeah,

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you know, I've been on stage since I was, you know,

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a kid, so you know, I mean people have been

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taking pictures of me since I was a kid. You know,

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people have I've always uh treated me a little different,

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you know. Sure, But then again, you know this is

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the weird part. Okay, Like, so I grew up in

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music and playing and everything, but I also lived in

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like a really bad neighborhood. You know, Lower East Side

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was dangerous. It was pretty scary back then. A lot

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of gangs, a lot of drugs, and so like my

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day life was like I was getting pretty much picked on,

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you know, beat up or jumped or whatever, you know,

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messed with and life kind of sucked. And then you know,

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the sun goes down and I'm at the clubs and

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I'm like a happening almost celebrity type. So it was

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like definitely a weird, you know mix of you know,

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elements in my life. But I'm just lucky I had

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the music because you know, I fell into drugs pretty

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hard early. I go into a lot of crime. I was,

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you know, I was homeless for a lot of years.

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I moved out of my moms when I was like fifteen,

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fourteen fifteen, and yeah, I want you're hiking out to

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the West Coast, and I was, you know, living in

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a lot of squats. I lived in you know, abandoned

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I lived in an abandoned brewery. I was actually living

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in like an air vent for a while in it.

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And you know, you would just find someplace that you

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could be safe, you know, someplace where you weren't going

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to get you know, accosted or you know violated, you know,

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right in the night. You know, you'd find someplace where

475
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,079
you can sleep. You have groups of friends that you know,

476
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,480
you kind of where each other's support system. You know. Yeah,

477
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,920
I really was, you know, shoplifting to eat, and you know,

478
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,519
I went through a period where I was, you know,

479
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,480
a bit of a criminal you know, I mean, I

480
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,559
was robbing people. You know, I've done some things that

481
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,680
are quite regrettable. But you know, when you're on the

482
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,720
street and you're a kid, and you know, you you

483
00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,960
sometimes forced into situations that are not just awkward, but

484
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:04,079
you know, sometimes you have to do things that you

485
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,559
might not normally do if you were living a different life, you.

486
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Know, right right. One of the interviews that I watched,

487
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,279
I'd like to give credit to whoever it was you

488
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,319
were talking to, but now I can't remember because I

489
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,319
watched several of them, but you were talking about this

490
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,519
about how no matter how bad things get, you know,

491
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,000
sometimes all it takes is one good thing to just

492
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:29,119
kind of turn everything around for you, and then it

493
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,799
makes everything that happened up to that point suddenly is

494
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:35,240
not a big deal because you have that triumph of

495
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,599
overcoming it all. And I've just found that really inspiring

496
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,599
because it is true. You know, we've all been through

497
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,240
those times where we're at our absolute lowest point and

498
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:46,960
then you know, and then sometimes all it takes is

499
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,759
one good thing, whether it's luck or whatever it is

500
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000
that they can really turn everything around for you. And

501
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,240
that's why I find your story very inspiring.

502
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: You know what I tell people all the time, you know,

503
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,839
there was a period well, I mean there's been many

504
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720
times in my life where I actually probably should have

505
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:14,640
given up or you know, but I just you know,

506
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:20,000
many times I've felt that way. But you you know,

507
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,920
your lungs are still going to fill with air. You're

508
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,480
you know, you're still going to be sitting there. You know,

509
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,599
you can mentally want to give up, but your body

510
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,359
is still sitting there. And then okay, I give up. Okay,

511
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,680
now what Okay? Now I need to eat, Now I

512
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,440
need to sleep. Okay. So actually I don't really have

513
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,960
the opera the choice of giving up. I'm just you know, emotionally,

514
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,000
i feel like I'm giving up, but I'm still alive

515
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,319
and I still have to exist and fight through this,

516
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:55,160
you know, and uh yeah, you know I And what

517
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,400
I tell people is, you know, like when my my

518
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:03,559
life absolutely took a dive, like I, you know, I

519
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240
in twenty twelve, I was really I hit a wall.

520
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,160
I like the mother of my kids split on me,

521
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,799
took my kids. I got assaulted going through a promags

522
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,799
show that I wasn't playing. It was like a fraudulent

523
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,319
promags and like I got assaulted by like a bunch

524
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,039
of gang members and wow in the hospital and Rikers Yeah,

525
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,880
I put three dudes. I got jumped by like about

526
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,279
six seven dudes. I got stabbed. I got like forty

527
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:35,119
something stitches, but I put three of them in the hospital.

528
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,839
They all walked away knowing that I'm definitely not someone

529
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,160
to play with, right, you know, part of my reputation, Like,

530
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,079
you know, my reputation increased that night because all these

531
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:50,720
guys thought they were tough and they realized you don't

532
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:55,319
corner a wild animal. You just don't. Yeah, and you know,

533
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,799
so my life really took a turn for the worst.

534
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,039
I was sitting in Rikers On, I'm like, oh my god, my,

535
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640
you know, the mother and my kids. I've been with

536
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,400
her fourteen years. She just like ripped my heart out

537
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,920
and threw it in the gutter, and she took my

538
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:10,000
kids from me. The only good thing that I feel

539
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440
like I had ever really achieved was being you know,

540
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
father to them. The music and all that other stuff

541
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:20,200
didn't matter to me as much as you know, fixing

542
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,720
my own childhood through being their father. You know, I

543
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,640
was doing all the things that I didn't get to do.

544
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,880
I was you know, going to playgrounds and going to

545
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,960
museums and doing all the things that I should have

546
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,400
been doing when I was a kid, but wasn't right.

547
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,880
You know. I was finally lived that, and then all

548
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,920
of a sudden, everything just got crushed and I really

549
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480
could have given up. You know, I was in the newspapers,

550
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200
not on the news. I was you know, I was

551
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,880
in cab TV, you know, count Rockers, stabs, blah lah lah.

552
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
You know, it was like this big, big drama. Yeah,

553
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,240
and you know, fast forward and uh, I'm in the

554
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
best place I've ever been in in my life. You know,

555
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160
if you would have told me that, then I would

556
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,119
have said, you know, if you would have told me

557
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200
I was going to go through the next however, many years,

558
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,359
you know, ten years before I would really feel, you know,

559
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,400
like I was back on top of my game, I

560
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,440
would have given up. I probably would have said, you

561
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,480
know what, feel me now, because I don't think I

562
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,559
can last that long feeling this way. Yeah, But you

563
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,480
know now that I am on the other side of that,

564
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:33,160
you know, it's it's in my rear view mirror. Man,

565
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,000
it's another it's just another Yeah. It was rough. Yeah,

566
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,000
it was tough. But you know what, I'm still here

567
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,440
and I'm doing great. And that's why I say to

568
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920
people all the time, it doesn't matter how bad things

569
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400
are or what you're going through, something could change all

570
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,599
of that, and you just you don't have the strength

571
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,079
or the will to get to that point. You know,

572
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,079
you're not going to know, right, you know, if you

573
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,839
just if you your life or give up or whatever,

574
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:05,079
you know, like you don't, you'll never know what could

575
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
have happened, what good could have came to you. I mean,

576
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,839
you know, death is inevitable. It's like the one thing

577
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,160
we don't have to work for. It's coming, right, So

578
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,400
why why run to it? Why run that direction? You're

579
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,599
going to get there? Yeah, And if you just slow

580
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960
down your pace a little bit and try to enjoy

581
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680
the ride a little bit and like look around as

582
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,160
you're moving, you know, life is actually pretty amazing, you know.

583
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,319
I mean, yeah, it's full of trauma, full of drama,

584
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,559
full of pain, suffering and everything else. But that's not

585
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,480
all there is.

586
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,559
Speaker 1: Right right, Well, very well said.

587
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: You know.

588
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: By the way, so when you when you went on

589
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:50,920
through all that in twenty twelve, like what what did

590
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,359
you what did you do to help help yourself get

591
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,960
through it. I mean, did you did you just kind

592
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,920
of lean more on the jiu jitsu or I mean, what,

593
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,240
uh is there anything specifically you did to really help

594
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,240
yourself pull through that?

595
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: You know what? It was just a string of good fortune,

596
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,680
you know.

597
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

598
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: I had been working on a book for a while

599
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,720
and around that time I met the person that I

600
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,079
eventually wound up marrying and she became my editor. She was,

601
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,559
you know, she had a PhD. And you know she

602
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,559
I'm sorry, has a PhD. She's you know, super smart,

603
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,759
she's a lawyer, she's a CEO of her own company.

604
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,839
She's really got her she's she's one of the most

605
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,319
you know, inspiring and as kicking humans I've known. And

606
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,759
you know, she had started working on editing my book

607
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:56,160
with me right before all this happened, So she knew

608
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160
that what she was seeing in the news and everything

609
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:03,880
was not true. Yeah, and she believed in me. She

610
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,960
had she knew I wasn't this psycho who went on

611
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,599
like a stabbing spree at a nightclub. She was like,

612
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,639
I've seen him with his kids all the time. He's

613
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,760
like a good guy. He's a good person. He's a

614
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,880
great father, He's he does have a heart. He's not

615
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,880
this crazy madman. So yeah, you know, we just got

616
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,360
closer and closer. And I got to say that between her,

617
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:33,320
between her and Henzo Gracie and having that the Academy,

618
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,960
and you know that really gave me what I needed,

619
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,599
just the support system to keep going. And and again,

620
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:49,440
you know, one thing people need to know too, is like,

621
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,519
you know, you can have your heart broken, you can

622
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:54,119
have your spirit broken, but you know, the heart heals. Man,

623
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,480
It's like one of the most resilient muscles in the body,

624
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,400
you know. I mean, I I never thought I'd be

625
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,000
able to love someone again, and I'm again, I'm I'm

626
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,679
happier than I've ever been. I'm in the best relationship

627
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,599
I've ever been in. And so I mean, I guess

628
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:20,039
the moral of this is, no matter how bleak things seem,

629
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,920
you really just can't give up. You know, you actually can't.

630
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,840
You know, life is too beautiful to just throw in

631
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,079
the towel. Man. You got to fight for what you want, man.

632
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And also too, I mean, you're you know,

633
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,880
you're you've kept yourself an incredible physical shape. The most

634
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440
most men your age, I don't are not in the

635
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,039
kind of physical shape that you're in. And you know,

636
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
obviously how we take care of ourselves physically affects how

637
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,079
we feel mentally and emotionally and all of that. So

638
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:48,960
that's that's an important piece of this too. I think.

639
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I exercise every day. I do like

640
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:58,480
an hour of cardio almost like, I do between forty

641
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,760
minutes to an hour every day. And you know, I

642
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,320
trained jiu jitsu in box, you know, at least a

643
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,320
couple of times a week. I do at least thirty

644
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,440
minutes of shadow boxing every day. I'm I'm i border

645
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,519
I'm obsessed, you know. And but there's you know, reasons

646
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,360
it starters it. I'm in great shape because of it. Yeah,

647
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,679
it helps my It helps my mind, you know, it

648
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920
relieves stress. It keeps me a little bit you know,

649
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:32,960
more grounded, and and you know, I take my job

650
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,239
very serious, man. I want to go out on stage

651
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,599
and kill it. So I do more cardio every day

652
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,199
than I know I'm going to be on stage, right,

653
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,360
I know I have an hour that I have to do.

654
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,320
I make sure that I do an hour of cardio

655
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,239
every day leading up to that tour. You know, the

656
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,199
last tour we did. We only had a half hour

657
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,079
set because we were opening up for Danzig, and I

658
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,840
had so much energy. I was like, you know, my, my,

659
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,760
my show would be over and I'd be like doing

660
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,159
you know, a couple hundred push ups right as soon

661
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:06,920
as I walk off the stage, just like, yeah, man,

662
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719
let's go. I'll go another forty minutes. Man, let's do this,

663
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,039
you know. So yeah, I feel great, man, Yeah, I

664
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,280
feel great. My wife said the other day. You know,

665
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,679
I'm like, honey, I feel you know, I lost a

666
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,760
little weight, you know, because I've been exercising differently. I'm

667
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,440
not working for strength as much as as endurance right now.

668
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,559
It's because I have to prioritize. I have this tour

669
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:31,000
coming up, so I'm really working on just being able

670
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,400
to go all out for an hour. That's my mission, right.

671
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,960
So yeah, and she's like, she told me, you know, yeah,

672
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,800
you got you lost a little bit of weight, but

673
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:45,119
you look great. You look like you did when you

674
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:49,239
were in your twenties. And she's met me in my twenties,

675
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,639
so you know what, I'm almost I'm sorry, I think

676
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,800
I almost said a bed word. I'm almost sixty, bro,

677
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,320
I'm fifty eight years ago, and the fact that my wife,

678
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,920
who knew me in my twenties, says I still look

679
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,719
the same, like physically, you know, that says a lot.

680
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,599
Speaker 1: Man, it does.

681
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:13,119
Speaker 2: I got I got. I go between a six to

682
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,519
an eight pack, depending on how many leglifts I do

683
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:18,639
it right, I'm in shape, I got veins in my arms,

684
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,039
I'm still cut, you know. Yeah, And it's important, man.

685
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,559
You know, I see people half my aage who like

686
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,199
struggle walking upstairs. You know. I see people who have

687
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,280
like a hard time getting up off the couch, and

688
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,239
I'm like, I see parents in the playground who are

689
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,639
like so out of shape that they can't even keep

690
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,800
up with their kids or play with them, right right, Like,

691
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,559
I don't even see your point in breeding if you're

692
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,639
going to be so out of shape that you're just

693
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,320
going to raise more out of shape people like you know,

694
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,440
do you know, if you're gonna have kids, get your

695
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,760
life together, be healthy, set an example for them, you know. Yeah, people,

696
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,519
I always let the idea of the dad bod. You

697
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,440
know what, I had my kids, I started working out

698
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,320
twice as hard. Yeah, you know, because I'm like I

699
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,599
want to I want to set an example for them.

700
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,639
I want them to know that health is wealth. Man.

701
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,800
You know, you've got to work, You got to take

702
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,360
care of yourself. You got to get in there and grind. Man.

703
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,519
I used to bring their strollers to the gym with me,

704
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,320
you know, and they'd sit there in their strollers while

705
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,840
I was working out. You know. I started bringing them

706
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,039
to the academy when they were like six months old.

707
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,039
I wanted them to see, this is what men are

708
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,320
supposed to do. They're supposed to be in shape, they're

709
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,199
supposed to be active. You know.

710
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:37,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've always said, well, I've always said too,

711
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,639
there's a there's a weird thing culturally in the United States,

712
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,960
and maybe this exists other places too. But you know, we, uh,

713
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,360
we feed our I don't have any children on my own,

714
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880
but you know we feed our kids like almost right

715
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,840
out of the shoot, all kinds of sugar and and

716
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,800
you know, it's like, uh, you know, right right out

717
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,679
of the gate. We teach our kids, you know, this

718
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,920
is what this is what you should enjoy the most.

719
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:03,559
His cake and candy and all this stuff. And then

720
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,800
we raise generations of diabetics, you know, and and and

721
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,360
and gee, I wonder why.

722
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: You know badly. It's you know, all part of a

723
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,559
bigger picture. I mean the you know, the they want

724
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,559
to I say they I hate to turn into one

725
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:26,159
of those people, but it's like basically if they you know,

726
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,639
they want you as long as long as you could

727
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,920
be part of the workforce, and then and then they

728
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,679
just want you to pay medical bills. You know. It's

729
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,079
just like how how can the system get the most

730
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,280
out of you and give you the least and just

731
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,920
keep you, you know, another little meaningless screw in the machine, right,

732
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,920
you know, It's like work hard, get sick, and keep

733
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,760
giving them money until you die, you know. Yeah, And

734
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,639
you know, and I do think it's a I hate

735
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,039
using the word conspiracy, but I do think that there

736
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,239
is a little bit of a you know, throughout the

737
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,800
history of this country, they've done a lot of you know,

738
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,559
they really have polluted us. You know, there's a lot

739
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,280
of foods in this country that are not even legal

740
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:17,000
in other countries, like food colorings and different artificials, sweeteners,

741
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,639
and various ingredients and chemicals that they use in our

742
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,480
foods that are literally banned in other countries. Sure, what

743
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,800
did all tell you that tells you that somebody's making

744
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,199
money off of keeping us unhealthy. You know, I've been

745
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:36,960
a vegetarian since nineteen eighty two. Oh yeah, and you

746
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,840
know I was you know.

747
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,079
Speaker 1: I was surprised by that too. You mentioned that in

748
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,599
one of the interviews that I watched, and that was

749
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:47,159
interesting to me because I would imagine a lot of

750
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:49,920
people you tell that too, are surprised because you know,

751
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,519
you've got a lot of muscle on you, and I

752
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,159
think there's a obviously it's a misconception because you're proof

753
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:57,639
of this this idea that you can't you know that

754
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,800
if you're a vegetarian, you can't build muscle, but you

755
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,000
obviously have built muscle as a vegetarian, and as you said,

756
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,719
you've been a vegetarian for a very long time.

757
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know what, there's a lot of myths

758
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,840
in the health industry, you know. I mean, they do

759
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:18,199
most of their research on rats, you know, I mean,

760
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:24,159
and rats require a lot more protein than people. Yeah,

761
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,440
but you know, and also people don't realize that there

762
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,679
is actually protein and vegetables, you know, I mean, for

763
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:36,199
you know, like all those fake burgers that they make now,

764
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,440
like what they called.

765
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: Impossible Burger.

766
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,599
Speaker 2: That stuff's made from like pea protein. You know, peas

767
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:51,119
have protein, Broccoli has protein. You know. So and unless

768
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:54,639
you're like trying to you don't be like a body builder.

769
00:42:55,679 --> 00:43:00,000
You don't really as much protein as people think. Yeah,

770
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,079
you know. And so unless unless you're like literally trying to,

771
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,039
you know, bulk up and you know, be like you know,

772
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:12,199
Arnold Schwarzenegger or something, you don't need. You know, people

773
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,440
always talking about you need one grand of protein for

774
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
every you know, I don't. I don't know if all

775
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:16,920
that's true.

776
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,079
Speaker 9: Man.

777
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:21,679
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know, I'm in good shape.

778
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 7: You know.

779
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,639
Speaker 2: My wife just put out a book book too, So

780
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,960
I mean, if people are interested in what I eat

781
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:31,800
for you know, to maintain uh, she put just Laurel Leaflanagan.

782
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,480
She just put out a book called Hardcore Vegetarian. Oh

783
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,280
and it's not it's not a book that like dashes

784
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,039
meat eating or anything like that, you know, it's it's

785
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:46,280
actually just a lot of recipes to try to bring

786
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,480
more vegetables into your diet. Yeah, you know, it's not

787
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:54,400
so much about it's just about you know, learning more

788
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,159
about food and adding new things to your diet that

789
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,679
you didn't know about and stuff and so for people

790
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,559
who want to know what I do to stay in shape.

791
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,480
Obviously I exercise a lot, but you know, what you

792
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:06,159
put into your body is critical too.

793
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Harley, we're approaching.

794
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 2: I know met leaders who are in great shape too.

795
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,599
Everybody is different, so I also I also I'm not

796
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,360
one of these like militant vegetarians who is like you know,

797
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,159
I kind of used to be. But the fact is is,

798
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:32,400
you know what, vegetables at plants are also alive, you know,

799
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,639
so I can't judge people for eating meat. You know,

800
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,519
my vegetables were alive, and if any if anything, I'm

801
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:51,440
more against the you know, industrial uh industry of the

802
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,920
meat industry, and like the way it like if people

803
00:44:53,960 --> 00:45:00,800
were still you know, hunter gatherers like we were, uh,

804
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,800
you know, factory farming is really what what what is

805
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,239
destroying not just our health but the planet, you know,

806
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:13,800
Like the meat industry is really toxic, like the all

807
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,800
the pollution that comes out of the waste and and

808
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,360
you know how I mean, it goes on and on.

809
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,440
I'm not going to sit here and like preach. Anybody

810
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,400
can do the research. But you know, if you're gonna

811
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,880
eat meat, I think you should eat you know, it

812
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,159
should be healthy. It should be like you know, grass fed,

813
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,079
you should or you should be hunting it yourself, or

814
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:40,760
you know, there has to be some sort of respect

815
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,440
for for nature, right, you know, right, you don't respect

816
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,199
don't yourself. It's gonna go bad. It's just you know,

817
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,440
we see the results.

818
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,079
Speaker 1: Oh no, well said well Harley, we are. The time

819
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,119
goes quickly. We are approaching the top of the hour.

820
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:59,840
But this has been incredible. I'm really glad you joined us.

821
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: Today, man, thank you for having me.

822
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. We should remind people before we go. And

823
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,800
by the way, in a moment we're going to I'm

824
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,880
going to close out the segment with Life of my Own,

825
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,599
another great track, but uh, we should remind people Wired

826
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,079
for Chaos is coming out. It's gonna be in theaters

827
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:17,880
middle of the month. I think you.

828
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, what's the date on that again? I think

829
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,880
it's gonna be uh see.

830
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you said the fift.

831
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 2: June fifteenth, that hits the theaters, okay, and uh doing

832
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,039
like a theater tour with the film with Q and

833
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,719
a's and and all that stuff. So it'll uh you know,

834
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:47,239
and and then it will be available streaming and so

835
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,000
on and so forth. So and you know, I think

836
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,639
it's a it's a it's a it's a good story.

837
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,960
It's a good film, even if you are not interested

838
00:46:56,039 --> 00:47:00,519
in you know, punk rock or hardcore music. Everybody who's

839
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:04,760
seen this thing told me that they were able to

840
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,320
really identify with the story, you know, because although I've

841
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,760
had a unique experience, you know, my life has been

842
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,599
I don't know if anybody else has lived a life

843
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:21,400
exactly like mine, but we've all experienced trauma. We've all

844
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:30,360
experienced you know, different types of you know, pain, stress,

845
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,679
you know, everybody has suffered. Everybody's gone through things that

846
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,840
were difficult. So I mean, I you know, whether it

847
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,320
was you know, you're a broken family, your parents separating,

848
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,400
whether it was you know, divorced, losing your kids, whether

849
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,280
it was you know, getting arrested, whether it was struggling

850
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,840
with drugs or this or that. There's a lot of

851
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,480
things in this film that I think most humans can

852
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:57,639
identify with because nobody has an easy ride, and I

853
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:01,119
think it gives a little bit of hope maybe, you know,

854
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,960
I mean, because if I have made it through the

855
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,159
things I made it through, I think I think most

856
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,280
people I think just about anybody, can you know what

857
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,840
I mean? A lot of people out there have suffered

858
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,360
harder than me, but you know a lot of people

859
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,960
have suffered harder than me and done well right right,

860
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:23,280
So that said, I just don't believe in giving up.

861
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,239
And if I can give anybody just a little bit

862
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,840
of hope or the strength to believe in yourself, then

863
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,440
you know, then my time on this earth was not

864
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:33,119
a waste.

865
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well said, well said. I agree. And by

866
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,639
the way, too, I'll remind people you've got a great website,

867
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Harleyflanagan dot com for people who want to learn more

868
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,320
about you and about the film. And you've got a

869
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440
tour coming up and coming up really.

870
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,079
Speaker 2: Fast, right, you're you're that Monday is.

871
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,519
Speaker 1: All right, very good Germany somewhere.

872
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:58,079
Speaker 2: On Tuesday or Wednesday, and the day I get home,

873
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,320
I'm doing a Q and A. So yeah, let's do it.

874
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: You gotta you got a full schedule. Well listen, So

875
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440
we'll close with this track Life of my Own and

876
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,320
but we'll let you go, Harley flanagain, thank you so much.

877
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Let's let's do this again in the future. I could

878
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:14,880
I could talk to you forever. Man. This has been fascinating,

879
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920
so I'm really glad you joined us this morning.

880
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: This is fun and you can have me on anytime.

881
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,639
It would be a pleasure to talk to you again.

882
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, all right Harley flanagain, thank you so much,

883
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:25,840
my friend.

884
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,559
Speaker 2: Take care my pleasure, take care of men.

885
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: All right, you got it? Bye bye, all right Harley

886
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,880
Flanagan of the Crowmags, and I'm really looking forward to

887
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,599
seeing the documentary Wired for Chaos, And we're gonna end

888
00:49:36,599 --> 00:50:21,280
with this track. This is another great song, Memories.

889
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,159
Speaker 3: At the time.

890
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 10: You well, that's the way enough to say.

891
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,159
Speaker 1: So you'll fight by your rights.

892
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 11: You'll fight he's.

893
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:35,639
Speaker 4: A vile.

894
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 12: You'll come.

895
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:41,599
Speaker 13: Tell us WHOA.

896
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:44,639
Speaker 3: Where the mother?

897
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 11: The accept your soul?

898
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's fool.

899
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 11: Where nothing excepting soul?

900
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 7: What you want that? How you want it?

901
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: Sounds like a.

902
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 11: Please yourself people, look press.

903
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 14: What all the time?

904
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: When you lay riss.

905
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:19,159
Speaker 13: Your time?

906
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,519
Speaker 3: Show us whoa.

907
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 7: With mother?

908
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:26,159
Speaker 1: That sucked yourself?

909
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 12: Your lady?

910
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,079
Speaker 15: Wow?

911
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just pop it in this bulletle go ry.

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Speaker 27: Lead with your hall heart loves wear it all big games.

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Speaker 7: Let's stand together.

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Speaker 28: And learn to love Fugain.

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Speaker 1: That is a very very cool song. Everybody's changing. And

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let me get that mic up, and I'm going to

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ask I'm gonna ask him to so I don't screw

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up his last name. Welcome, how do you? Okay, go

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ahead and introduce yourself, Sarah. Let me get these make

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sure this mic is working here, go ahead and introduce yourself.

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Speaker 6: My name is Stephen de Keir, Stephen de Cure, local

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musician from Nashua, New Hampshire. I played full time all

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around New Hampshire in the Massachusetts area. Tonight I'll be

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in a York Maine, York beach playing from seven to

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ten pm. Okay to the show.

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Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. Yeah, so Stephen de Kure, yes,

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as I say it, Okay, very good, very good. Because

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you're I'm curious if your name ever gets messed up

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on a poster.

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Speaker 6: Like gets messed up all the time all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yes that I'm gonna get this camera on you here

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so people can see who are watching online if you

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are just joining us. Matt Connorton Unleashed. We have entered

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our number two New Marrow dose here on this Saturday morning,

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and Stephen de Kere is with us, and he brought

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his guitar. He's gonna play, He's gonna play for us

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in just a moment. But I love that song. So

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where was that recorded? Where did you do that?

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Speaker 6: So I've been recording with h Charlie Brusso over at

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Woodshot Productions in Atkinson, New Hampshire. Okay, He's worked with

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like God, Smack and run DMC over the years, some

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pretty prominent names. Yeah, he's good friends of mine, a

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few of my other friends. So I've been working with

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him and I've been working on this EP coming out

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now on almost two years now. I've been working on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yep. Now, how did you? How did you

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come to work with him? Because obviously you know he's

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worked with some heavy hitters. I mean, how did that

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come about?

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Speaker 6: So just mutual friends of my mom and dads and

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friend music friends of ours that I've known throughout the years. Uh,

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you know put me in touch with him, and I've

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been working with him ever since.

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Speaker 1: How many are you putting out an EP or how many?

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Speaker 6: Just an EP? It's my very first EP, so it'll

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be six songs.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, song EP, Very cool. Congratulations on that.

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Speaker 5: Who else is on?

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Speaker 1: Who else is working?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is it all just you?

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Speaker 6: It's mostly just me. I have obviously Charlie producing it.

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He's putting most of it together for me. But I

1047
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,280
also have Jeff McGinnis. He's one of my lead guitarists

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on the on the track on the album as well.

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He was guitarist on everybody's changing as well. Oh okay,

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and he's super super talented, super super talented guy. Really nice.

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He actually owns the Mojo's music.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh very cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's what I'm working with on on that,

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and getting some other people in for bass and things

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like that, and usually I just do it myself though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, do you want to play something for us?

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You got your guitar, let me turn that, turn that guitar,

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,119
apierro play. I've got the right. Oh that sounds nice.

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That sounds nice in the headphones.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right. This one's called Quiet Moments. This is

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an original.

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Speaker 29: Quiet Moments.

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Speaker 3: All the long.

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Speaker 12: Hours Friday, my been Lord.

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Speaker 11: Fill these pages.

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Speaker 15: And the stories, range them your homeway, sing.

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Speaker 12: Them for me, looking at my window as.

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Speaker 30: The sun creeks to day, birds of singing, clean tree

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zoo tree writing songs come suweesly, surrounded by n chs.

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Speaker 28: Beaudy, play the skits.

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Speaker 30: Are day in tunhide, create the fire high.

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Speaker 7: I know you like.

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Speaker 15: Fill these pages, stormble store homies, arrange them your home way.

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Sing for me.

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Speaker 12: Looking out my window is two clowns over the day.

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Window is boring meaning song its way.

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Speaker 15: Writing songs come sueezs me surrounded by niechous beudy quiet moments.

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Speaker 3: All along.

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Speaker 12: House is empty.

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Speaker 7: No once.

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Speaker 15: Fill these pages, flownly stor homies, arrange them your Hollway

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sing for me.

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Speaker 6: Quite a Moment's a little rough, but you know a

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little rough, dude.

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Speaker 1: That was beautiful. That was beautiful. Welcome everybody, if you

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,840
are just joining us. We have Steven Dekiri here with us,

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alive in studio and that's that sounded fantastic.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been? How long have you been

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doing this? So have you been?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 6: I have been playing. So I started playing guitar when

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I was seven years old. Okay, my uncle got me

1094
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,000
an electric electric guitar, so I was playing you know Metallica,

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Iron Maiden, you know all the Megadeath, you know Green Day.

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And then when I was freshman in high school, I

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had to do a guitar class, so I had to

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get an acoustic guitar because I didn't have enough for

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all the kids. So sure, I had to go buy one,

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got one. Never looked back. Yeah, eleven plans since I

1101
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:07,079
was like seven, and I've been doing uh like full

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time gigging for about a little over ten years.

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Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 15: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 9: So?

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Speaker 6: I was born in Lawrence, Massachusetts. Okay, moved to Nashville

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,479
when I was about six years old. So I've been

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,880
in Nasha since about two thousand and two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Now, how did you how did you when

1112
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,920
when you were starting out? I mean, did you always

1113
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,159
do a solo acoustic thing or did you play a band?

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01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 6: An I've always done solo acoustic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Over the years now that I've you know, been doing

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,520
it for a while, I've been trying to work more

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,359
with like, you know, bands and like get up on

1119
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,279
stage with bands and as far as that goes. But yeah,

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I usually just do it solo.

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Speaker 1: It's easier, right, I Mean it's you know, you don't

1122
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:52,560
depend on anybody else for yeah, their availability and in

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,359
terms of rehearsing and playing shows and.

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Speaker 6: All that, exactly exactly. It's it's a it's a little

1125
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,600
bit it's a little bit easier to go about a

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business wise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Do you do covers as well

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or I do do covers as well? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 6: I do mostly covers even at all my shows. Yeah,

1131
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,119
Like I said this, is the first EP I have

1132
01:11:11,239 --> 01:11:13,720
coming out. So these are my first original songs that

1133
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,439
I have. Yeah, and so I mostly do covers and

1134
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,119
things like that.

1135
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many originals do you have at this point?

1136
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,199
Would you say? I mean, can you even put a

1137
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:23,359
number on how many songs you have?

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Speaker 6: I have about like six or seven okay, okay? I said,

1139
01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:30,359
I raally just started writing about maybe a year or

1140
01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:34,000
two ago, okay, and moved back into you know, my

1141
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,800
parents and stuff, and yeah, my dad's been helping me

1142
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,640
a lot with you know, the writing, and oh good,

1143
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,800
help me put together the music and things like that.

1144
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 1: What is it that motivated you to want to start writing?

1145
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Speaker 6: I'd really just want to get my own music out there.

1146
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:50,399
I mean, I play, I do all the covers, I

1147
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,960
play live full time, and you know the next step

1148
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:56,760
is to get onto my own stage. Yeah hopefully you

1149
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,199
know what I mean, and have people come see my music. Yeah,

1150
01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:01,960
yeah exactly, you know, put music out there that you

1151
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:04,520
know can help people along the way. And yeah, the

1152
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,279
ways that music's held me along the way.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to play another one?

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,119
Speaker 6: Yeah of course?

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01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you're just joining us, Stephen the Cure

1156
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:14,199
am I saying it right? Is he is here with

1157
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:16,279
us in in studio sounding amazing?

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01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, and hear another one?

1159
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:19,399
Speaker 15: Does that?

1160
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 7: Ever?

1161
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:20,039
Speaker 1: Does?

1162
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 31: Uh? I?

1163
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: I assume, like, what what's the I'm just curious, what's

1164
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,399
the most unusual, shall we say, pronunciation? You've heard of

1165
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:28,800
your name?

1166
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:33,279
Speaker 6: I mean I've had, I've had, I've had the queer,

1167
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:38,600
I've had the choir, I've had, I've felt a lot. Yeah, declare,

1168
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:40,279
declare mind better?

1169
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: How did you say it? I don't remember?

1170
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,159
Speaker 4: He is.

1171
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 31: Blue?

1172
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:48,399
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, there you go. That sounds.

1173
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,159
Speaker 6: I've had people put a queue in front of it.

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:55,119
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah, I can imagine. Sious. What

1175
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:56,239
are you gonna play for us next?

1176
01:12:56,279 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do so. I'm actually gonna do a cover

1177
01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:00,720
for you. This is Raylea Montanez empty.

1178
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:37,199
Speaker 32: Nice, nice, shameless, skirt up two knees, walks through the

1179
01:13:37,319 --> 01:13:44,960
garden rooms where the bed feel laugh, never learned to

1180
01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:45,640
come up.

1181
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 30: This sings choosing stair too dwell in mass, walk on

1182
01:13:56,079 --> 01:14:01,720
down the hill through the grasscon in rounds the sardsmounts

1183
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:07,439
to that go of life. Babe, I'm best busty back

1184
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:14,159
then holding rusty gotta like that sinks into this fields collecting.

1185
01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 29: Ray Willow rays feel this way, so.

1186
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:33,079
Speaker 33: See so Wes Strange.

1187
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 30: Enough these got dog busted sunset, these colding damn biden mornings.

1188
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,359
Speaker 7: I used frown field.

1189
01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:57,520
Speaker 30: Through market and dusty, I'm still leaves, spoke these words

1190
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:06,199
down loud, no one here me feel blouse across the chair,

1191
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,600
bid four flowers from your hair and gets me with

1192
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:17,000
a country mouth sore plain matside the rain and stepping

1193
01:15:17,239 --> 01:15:21,279
on leaves. To me, it sounds like they're blooding us.

1194
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 6: Quite love me.

1195
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 33: Will ways feel this way, soty, So Wess Strange, will

1196
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:56,399
love looks my team means in the stap in my chair.

1197
01:15:56,279 --> 01:16:03,079
Speaker 30: Said to your best to destroy me. You see, I've

1198
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:07,279
been the helling back so many times. I standing been

1199
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:14,840
kind of for me. There's a lot of things I

1200
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,720
can give the man. There's a lot of ways to die. Yes,

1201
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,479
since I'm already there to walk side me, and there's

1202
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,319
a whole lot of things. I don't understand why so

1203
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,760
many people lie. Let's not hurt you ifuse the firingside me.

1204
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 33: Willow always feel this way.

1205
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: So.

1206
01:16:47,319 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 33: See, so Wes Strange.

1207
01:17:08,279 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 1: Steven Dick Currer here with us live in studio that

1208
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:16,399
was amazing. That was a raal Lemming I can't say

1209
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,319
his name either song. That was gorgeous. Yeah, that was

1210
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,560
really a beautiful light. That was really good. That was

1211
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:23,960
really good.

1212
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,359
Speaker 6: So much.

1213
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you covered that you found challenging

1214
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,840
to do, like vocally.

1215
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 6: Or Steely Dan Amy Winehouse really yeh Yeah. Vocally they're

1216
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,159
pretty challenging. I mean some of the new Benson Boone

1217
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:41,760
songs that I've been working on challenging as well.

1218
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,279
Speaker 1: Now what is it about so somebody like I'm curious

1219
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:46,520
that somebody like seely Dan for example, What what is

1220
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,960
it that's that's challenging about that?

1221
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,279
Speaker 6: Oh my god. They are such nerds when it comes

1222
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:55,800
to the musicality of it. Yeah, pronunciation of when when

1223
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,760
you know you're singing. And I mean Michael McDonald didn't

1224
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,560
injury about how when he was recording PEG with Donald

1225
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,840
Fagan and how he was very That's what I'm looking for.

1226
01:18:10,039 --> 01:18:12,720
He wanted it perfectly. He wanted it perfectly every single time.

1227
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,880
So just pronunciation with his words, how he was pronunciating it,

1228
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,279
I was singing it everything. It took him like seventeen

1229
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:21,079
to eighteen takes. Can do the harmonies on peg or

1230
01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:22,640
whatever he goes. It was one of the hardest things

1231
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,319
I've ever read to do.

1232
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow wow. Yeah. Is it important to you when

1233
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,399
when you do these covers? Is it important to you

1234
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,119
to sing them as closely as possible to the original?

1235
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 6: I like to bring a justice but also make it

1236
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,279
my own. Yeah, give it my own twist on it

1237
01:18:35,399 --> 01:18:38,239
in a way, so it's not oh hey, he's just

1238
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,880
you know, like the other everybody else the run of

1239
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,279
the mill, right right, Yeah, stand out a little bit.

1240
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, no doubt, no doubt. What are do you

1241
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,239
have a favorite? Like, do you have a favorite cover

1242
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:50,800
that you do? Is there one that really kind of

1243
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,920
stands out as something to every show?

1244
01:18:53,039 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 6: Or I just I went over this, I get this question,

1245
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,319
actually asked a lot. Yeah, it's hard to say. I

1246
01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:01,560
have like almost two hundred songs that I play off

1247
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,319
to on my head, so yeah, it's hard to like

1248
01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:06,000
pick and choose. It's usually ones that like I'm like

1249
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:08,239
just learning or you know what I mean, just getting

1250
01:19:08,279 --> 01:19:11,039
out there to play. Yeah, as of lately it's been

1251
01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:15,119
Noah Kn's Dial drunk and really enjoying playing that one

1252
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:15,720
out lately.

1253
01:19:16,039 --> 01:19:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1254
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of always fluctuates for me.

1255
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what's the longest show you've done?

1256
01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1257
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,359
Speaker 6: Man, the longest show I've done. I think was like

1258
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,520
seven and a half hours.

1259
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, tell me about it. Way seven

1260
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,319
and a half hours.

1261
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a private pool party.

1262
01:19:31,159 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: Because usually when I ask people this question, I'll get like, oh,

1263
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,560
you know we did a five hours like seven and

1264
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,079
a half yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1265
01:19:37,359 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 6: So like I did like a lot of like the

1266
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,279
shows like l Street Tavern last year, and yeah, there

1267
01:19:43,359 --> 01:19:45,279
was a couple of times like that. I had to

1268
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:49,079
do both of the shows because one of the guys canceled. Yeah,

1269
01:19:49,279 --> 01:19:50,920
so I had to go in there early, play it

1270
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,199
from like three to three thirty to seven thirty, then

1271
01:19:53,239 --> 01:19:56,479
play seven thirty to midnight or wow. Yeah it was

1272
01:19:57,399 --> 01:19:58,239
it's rough. It's rough.

1273
01:19:58,399 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but why we do it?

1274
01:20:00,039 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1275
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: When you do something like that? Do you do anything

1276
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,000
special for your voice too?

1277
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:07,359
Speaker 6: I really just drink tea and lemons. That's really all

1278
01:20:07,399 --> 01:20:09,560
I do. Especially I didn't drink any today. I was

1279
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,640
running late this night.

1280
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh you sound great, You sound great, and yeah, but

1281
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,199
pretty unusual to sing this early, probably right, it is

1282
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:18,479
for me.

1283
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,119
Speaker 6: Usually usually I'm waking up at like three really yeah, yeah,

1284
01:20:22,319 --> 01:20:23,760
getting ready to go to work at six.

1285
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, there you go, yep. So and

1286
01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:30,760
as far as playing, I mean, obviously with what you do,

1287
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,479
you're able to play. You know, you can play just

1288
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,520
about anywhere, but just about like do you get out

1289
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:37,920
of do you get out of New England much?

1290
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,319
Speaker 6: Or do you kind of stick to I Actually I

1291
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,800
haven't played. I play in Massachusetts a lot. Yeah, do

1292
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:51,159
like Brownies Pub. I usually do Muddy Waters where's that

1293
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,520
that's in Methune as well. Oh okay, yep, and then

1294
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,880
a few other places that I've played, But other than that,

1295
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,640
I usually stay in New Hampshire.

1296
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:02,199
Speaker 1: No kidding, Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I mean it's remarkable

1297
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:03,960
with you do a lot of breweries. I assume I

1298
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:05,000
do a lot of breweries.

1299
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:05,279
Speaker 9: I do.

1300
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,199
Speaker 6: So I work with not so costly productions. Oh excellent, Dmitri.

1301
01:21:09,079 --> 01:21:12,079
Speaker 1: No wonder you're so busy? Yeah yeah, yeah, they do

1302
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:12,720
a great job.

1303
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I work with them. I've been working with

1304
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:20,119
Paul Costley and dmitriy for over god probably about eight

1305
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,119
years now, no kidding, Yeah, I'm working with them for

1306
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:22,640
a long time.

1307
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,399
Speaker 1: Outstanding.

1308
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, They've been nothing but good to me, and they

1309
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,159
helped me out with shows and you know, and I

1310
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:31,159
booked myself as well and some other people or whatever

1311
01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:32,640
that I know through the industry.

1312
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it keeps me busy. Yeah no, that's fantastic.

1313
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,119
Speaker 6: Out of trouble Yeah yeah, yeah.

1314
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to play another one for us?

1315
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1316
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,319
Speaker 1: Of course, trying to hear you play another one selfishly

1317
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,520
if you're just joining us. We have Steven to cure

1318
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:51,239
here and he sounds sounds amazing. Yeah, level up on

1319
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:51,840
that guitar.

1320
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 6: What would you like to hear another cover?

1321
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave that up to you. I'll leave

1322
01:21:58,359 --> 01:21:59,159
that totally up to you.

1323
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 6: Let's do another original, all right? So this is this

1324
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:07,680
is the first single that I released off the EP,

1325
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,319
and I got it released on ninety two point five

1326
01:22:10,399 --> 01:22:11,239
The River in Boston.

1327
01:22:11,359 --> 01:22:12,359
Speaker 1: Oh congratulations.

1328
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 6: Yeah. I was very excited about that. And it's called

1329
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:15,680
Towards the Sun Goes.

1330
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:16,359
Speaker 1: I guess all right.

1331
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 15: It was so fil.

1332
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,239
Speaker 3: We talked for was.

1333
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 12: Seeing nothing knows.

1334
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:12,239
Speaker 30: Indo those stocks ready y Zack in bound things, sweet felt,

1335
01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:30,640
sitting in on nacking sheep ship and stand from a

1336
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:48,880
cool glass shop. Zag wanna open towards the Sun. Sag

1337
01:23:49,439 --> 01:24:16,920
wanna open bottom feron in live free time that we

1338
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:34,319
fall in not shoot a hand new car, You talk

1339
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:47,039
full Stan Street two mouthins nine at nine another slap

1340
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:58,560
in the face, and now we stand Mabie in your places.

1341
01:25:00,079 --> 01:25:00,359
Speaker 3: M h.

1342
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 12: I said he's a lone write his song in pain.

1343
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:19,119
Speaker 30: Because I gown wanna oh bun it's sorts his son.

1344
01:25:24,359 --> 01:25:29,279
Speaker 12: Cauz I gown wanna open bottom fun.

1345
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 30: Cause I gown wanna old bye sordes son cauz I

1346
01:25:45,079 --> 01:26:15,720
gown wanna open it's sorts of sound. H that gown

1347
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:26,279
wanna old bun swords of sun? Can that gown wanna

1348
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:37,520
old bun bowsome fun? Is that own wanna old bye

1349
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:47,439
sorts of sonnz gown wanna old.

1350
01:26:47,239 --> 01:26:50,199
Speaker 28: Bun sorts of sun.

1351
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Towards the Sun? By Stephen Dick here Live in Studio. Fantastic, fantastic.

1352
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:01,279
Speaker 2: What do you?

1353
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like your songs are pretty upbeat,

1354
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,880
Like what do you What do you like to write about?

1355
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 6: You know, I really like to write about, you know,

1356
01:27:10,319 --> 01:27:12,960
things that people can relate to. Yeah, and they can

1357
01:27:13,159 --> 01:27:15,520
you know, take from their own lives and you know,

1358
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,680
either use it to help them with whatever they have

1359
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,960
going on. I mean towards the sun for instances essentially

1360
01:27:23,039 --> 01:27:24,720
about you know, no matter where you are in your

1361
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:29,039
life you're happy, down, sad, you know, depressed, whatever it is,

1362
01:27:29,239 --> 01:27:31,479
there's always you know, look one eye towards the song.

1363
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,560
There's always something better. No matter where you are, if

1364
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,159
you're in a good spot, you can always be doing better. Yeah,

1365
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:38,520
you know what I mean. Just try and stay positive.

1366
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, very good.

1367
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 6: Try and send out a positive vibe.

1368
01:27:42,039 --> 01:27:44,319
Speaker 1: I just noticed your shirt too. I didn't notice it first.

1369
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:48,720
Annie DiFranco. Yeah, I met her probably she Oh my god,

1370
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,439
it's more than twenty years ago now. She was playing

1371
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,079
at a show in Providence, okay, And at the time,

1372
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:55,239
I was working for a promoter, Joe Fletcher, who's he's

1373
01:27:55,279 --> 01:27:57,520
not here. He's on the West Coast now, but he

1374
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,520
used to he used to have big world productions here

1375
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,319
in New Hamp'm sure, and so he was he was

1376
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:04,600
putting on shows around New England and he did a

1377
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,560
bunch of shows with her. But yeah, that's that's how

1378
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,239
I met her. And yeah, she was fantastic.

1379
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,119
Speaker 6: She's absolutely incredible. So I just went and saw her

1380
01:28:13,279 --> 01:28:14,920
first time I've ever seen her. I used to watch

1381
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,039
her show videos all the time. My mom got me

1382
01:28:17,119 --> 01:28:20,199
into her. Yeah, I had front row seats with her,

1383
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,479
and I called out. I yelled out, shame play, shameless

1384
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,079
her whatever. And it happened to be the last song

1385
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:27,720
that she was going to.

1386
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:28,159
Speaker 7: Play that night.

1387
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, she goes, Oh, you got lucky.

1388
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,359
Speaker 6: I have I have a video of it. She handed

1389
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:33,439
me the set list. Oh okay, Yeah, it was really cool.

1390
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,319
Speaker 1: Oh, very nice.

1391
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 6: Definitely awesome. She's incredible. Yeah, my favorites.

1392
01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. Was that recent or very recent?

1393
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 6: It was at the oh she's it was? It was

1394
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,159
in April nineteenth, Yeah, April nineteenth, I believe it was.

1395
01:28:47,319 --> 01:28:48,399
Speaker 1: Okay, where did you see her.

1396
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 6: In Summerville? Summerville was a Summerville theater.

1397
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I haven't kept up with her unfortunately,

1398
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,199
so but I assume she's still putting out. Uh she

1399
01:28:58,279 --> 01:29:00,600
still her labeled you know, Righteous Babe? Is that still?

1400
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,119
Speaker 6: Yeah? Register Records?

1401
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of the cool things

1402
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,239
about her too, is you know, not only h did

1403
01:29:07,279 --> 01:29:10,880
I always love her music? But I shouldn't say past

1404
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,479
tense because she's obviously still active. But but I always

1405
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,000
thought it was cool that, you know, she she started

1406
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:19,399
her own label. She started that indie label at a

1407
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,560
time where like, like today it's not even a big deal,

1408
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,439
right because of the Internet, anybody can can start a

1409
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,439
lay quote, right, but she but she did it at

1410
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,199
a time when it was unusual, and you know, I

1411
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,760
I know she's talked in interviews about how, you know,

1412
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,399
she faced a lot of headwinds doing that. People didn't

1413
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,520
necessarily believe in her, give her a chance.

1414
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 6: They were like, I think, uh, she's done a lot

1415
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,319
for the women of the you know.

1416
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh totally absolutely, Yeah, yeah, because I remember one

1417
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:49,840
interview I read with her, she was saying, like, you know,

1418
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,319
people just looked at her like, who is this chick

1419
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,840
who thinks she can do this? You know, But but

1420
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,680
she was determined to do it, and she did it.

1421
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 6: Give somebody an opportunity, if they have the drive in

1422
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,520
the hunger, they'll they'll make it happened.

1423
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one who So obviously she's a big inspiration

1424
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:05,800
to you.

1425
01:30:06,079 --> 01:30:07,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, very big inspiration.

1426
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,199
Speaker 1: Like who else? Who else?

1427
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,520
Speaker 6: You gotta throw the Beatles in there, Yeah, the Beatles

1428
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:13,640
are number one for me.

1429
01:30:14,119 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge.

1430
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,159
Speaker 6: Jim Crochey fan. Are you huge Jim Croach fan? I

1431
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:20,319
just saw his son play Croachy plays Croachy.

1432
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, kid, see, I didn't even know that was

1433
01:30:22,279 --> 01:30:22,479
the thing.

1434
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he does it it too.

1435
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,279
Speaker 1: What's the son's name? Oh interesting, looks.

1436
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 6: Just like it said. Oh yeah yeah. So I saw him.

1437
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,199
My front row tickets to that one too. My friend

1438
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,119
Liz also Scott does for me. Oh excellent, very nice

1439
01:30:37,119 --> 01:30:39,800
to her, very nice her. Yeah, And so I met

1440
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,319
him after the show. Okay, talked to him. I always

1441
01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:44,279
open up every show I usually do with h don't

1442
01:30:44,319 --> 01:30:45,039
mess around with Jim.

1443
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah.

1444
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 6: My dad always laughs at me for it. He's like,

1445
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,680
you gonna open up a tool mess around with. So

1446
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,119
I met him and talked to him for a few minutes,

1447
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,000
showed him my tattoo as much as dad.

1448
01:30:56,079 --> 01:30:56,199
Speaker 2: You know.

1449
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:58,520
Speaker 6: It was a big inspiration to me, and I'm glad

1450
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,840
that he's carrying on his legacy.

1451
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, that's extremely cool. That's extremely cool. Yeah.

1452
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,520
Speaker 6: So you know the Croaches, Steely, Dan Simon and Garfunk Cole. Yep,

1453
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:10,680
I'm an old soul. Yeah, I really like the old school,

1454
01:31:11,239 --> 01:31:14,039
the classics. Yeah, the music that lives on you know. Sure,

1455
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:15,760
that's meaning you know what I mean? Yeah, you can

1456
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:16,960
still relate to it nowadays.

1457
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Do you want to play? Do

1458
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,000
you want to play one more? We have time to play.

1459
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,960
We'll play one more live on you if you're just

1460
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,319
joining us. Stephen dea curis here with us live in

1461
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:31,199
studio on this a Saturday morning, singing much earlier in

1462
01:31:31,279 --> 01:31:32,840
the day that he's used to. But he sounds he

1463
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:33,479
sounds great.

1464
01:31:35,239 --> 01:31:36,119
Speaker 6: We'll try this one out.

1465
01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: This is a cover, right, something's uh that's doing that

1466
01:31:47,239 --> 01:31:50,159
chord might have been loose. Yeah, try that again. It's

1467
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:53,279
it's almost like I wonder if your arm was hitting

1468
01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:56,319
the chord going into the guitar, it might have been

1469
01:31:56,399 --> 01:31:59,560
what it was I was hearing. Yeah, I was hearing

1470
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:08,159
some thing like, uh, yeah, that's much better. Yeah cool.

1471
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:10,279
Speaker 6: So goes like this.

1472
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 34: Miracle from the stupagat, you know, but it's raining from

1473
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:27,840
corn and John my Beds surrounding your perspective of screen

1474
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,960
seeking before.

1475
01:32:31,359 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 12: My audience. Still my happy man.

1476
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 7: I used to be.

1477
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 12: Doubting, I forget about it whatever, And it's all.

1478
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 30: The same many ways, And I eat back for too.

1479
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,520
Bunch that thrown.

1480
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,319
Speaker 12: In the name of someone long and no four, she

1481
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:06,600
will be he young, junking alone, drap dancing his shins,

1482
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,720
being a radio. And now I don't knock you in,

1483
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,279
they do me in the corn heck, even name is

1484
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,720
my emergency phone call, honey, ringing.

1485
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:25,199
Speaker 30: Ring, Even the cops ATCHI rover rainder and now time

1486
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,359
chunk outside chunk outside you.

1487
01:33:30,359 --> 01:33:37,199
Speaker 12: Montio and from pots to me and recognize from charming

1488
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:38,399
too alarming.

1489
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 30: In seconds, I'll be betrid and I met the pain matastasize,

1490
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,960
But next morning I'll forget it.

1491
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:55,199
Speaker 3: In the time, it's all all all.

1492
01:33:59,039 --> 01:34:04,159
Speaker 12: And now you've all the punches that a throne win

1493
01:34:04,319 --> 01:34:08,840
the name on someone now a long and nor for

1494
01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:15,640
sheam w being young, junking alone, traffic lancing. This trends

1495
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:20,079
me in a radio. Now don't knock you in. They

1496
01:34:20,319 --> 01:34:24,399
do me in the corner. I gave your name is.

1497
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:30,119
Speaker 30: My emergency phone call, honey, ringing ring, even the cops

1498
01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:35,520
that you over ringdow and now time chunk got time

1499
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,239
chunk out, time for.

1500
01:34:37,319 --> 01:34:42,239
Speaker 3: You and no time for you.

1501
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:49,159
Speaker 30: Now big you surge, you stay in the car, lookive

1502
01:34:49,319 --> 01:34:52,359
for you my blood alcohol all run on with the

1503
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:57,079
pronouncing self, and I'll change my feet up, pre it's

1504
01:34:57,119 --> 01:35:00,239
a flag. This sweet a switch of come bag. Some

1505
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:06,159
of you danger to yourself. Help sir, just stay in

1506
01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:09,359
the car to give you my food. I pulled our

1507
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:14,640
ride on with the announcing self and I've changed my

1508
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,439
faith out kiss the bads. It's sweet as fish.

1509
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 12: You call me bad? Somebody?

1510
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 28: Do you do this to yourself?

1511
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 12: And I said, and now ain't proud? Four two punches

1512
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:31,359
down the throne, win the name of someone now no

1513
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:32,199
longer know.

1514
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,239
Speaker 30: For the shame of being young, junking alone, drave the

1515
01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:42,000
lights in the strains the radio.

1516
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 12: And now I don't like you any to do me

1517
01:35:46,039 --> 01:35:46,680
in the car.

1518
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 30: I gave your name is my emergency phone, Cale running

1519
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:57,039
rang and ring eving the cops that you over ringing

1520
01:35:58,319 --> 01:35:59,880
now telling drunk home time.

1521
01:36:00,359 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 9: N you.

1522
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Mmm, gorgeous, gorgeous, just gorgeous. Thank you, absolutely very nice,

1523
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,399
very nice. Stephen Deakira here with us live in studio,

1524
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,439
sounding amazing. We should remind people so so the do

1525
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:23,920
you know when the EP is going to be out?

1526
01:36:24,039 --> 01:36:26,159
Speaker 6: So I'm hoping the EP is going to be this July.

1527
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,560
That's what I'm hoping for. I go back into the

1528
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,479
studio on Father's Day, finish up the last song on there,

1529
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,680
and then I just want to add some finishing touches

1530
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,840
and make some mass of it, and yeah, get it

1531
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,439
out to the people. Man, it'll be a nice big

1532
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:41,399
weight off my shoulders.

1533
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about that.

1534
01:36:43,319 --> 01:36:43,520
Speaker 9: Huh.

1535
01:36:44,119 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: Very cool. And then where are you playing this weekend?

1536
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:47,800
Do you have anything to plug this weekend?

1537
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:52,239
Speaker 6: Tonight I'll be York Beach, York, Maine end the York

1538
01:36:52,279 --> 01:36:54,560
Beach in and then I'll be doing that from seven

1539
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:55,199
to ten pm.

1540
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

1541
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 6: Then tomorrow afternoon I will be at the Portsmouth Gaslight

1542
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,439
Deck two to five pm.

1543
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Okay, very good.

1544
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I have like a couple of days

1545
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,600
off and then back at it again.

1546
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1547
01:37:07,039 --> 01:37:09,119
Speaker 1: Sweet uh. And where is the best place to go

1548
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,079
online for people to keep this book?

1549
01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 6: Is the best place to go online? And check me

1550
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,680
out Stephen d Kere. You can add my main profile page.

1551
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,399
You can add my music page of just Stephen de

1552
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:19,039
Cure music.

1553
01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:22,039
Speaker 1: We should probably tell people how to spell your name too.

1554
01:37:22,119 --> 01:37:27,159
Speaker 6: Yes, it's s T E p h e N. My

1555
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:31,520
last name is d E c U I r E yes. Yes,

1556
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:32,520
and you pronounce it d.

1557
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Q d c yes. Excellent. Outstanding outstanding, I think. Uh so,

1558
01:37:37,399 --> 01:37:40,039
another studio track that you sent us is this Quiet Moments.

1559
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:42,000
Yes that you didn't play this one.

1560
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:43,520
Speaker 6: Right, I played that. That was the first one I played.

1561
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: Well, that was the first one you played. Maybe we

1562
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,439
should maybe we should replay the one we opened with

1563
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,319
the subscrict where yeah, well that's okay. Actually, now we'll

1564
01:37:52,399 --> 01:37:55,560
let people hear the studio version of Quiet Moments. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1565
01:37:56,359 --> 01:37:58,279
maybe I'll play the other one again afterwards, though, because

1566
01:37:58,279 --> 01:38:00,600
I really like that. Everybody's changing that. I really like

1567
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:01,119
that one a lot.

1568
01:38:01,159 --> 01:38:01,399
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1569
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: That's excellent, outstanding, outstanding. So if you are listening live,

1570
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,680
by the way, is Katie here? She is in the

1571
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,640
billion Katie Dobbins is coming up in the third hour,

1572
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,680
so it'll be nice to see her and I get

1573
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,960
to hear her. And did she bring her guitar? Good? Okay,

1574
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,399
And we will close out this segment with this. This

1575
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,640
is called Quiet Moments. Stephen de Cure again, thank you

1576
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:24,279
so much.

1577
01:38:24,399 --> 01:38:25,119
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

1578
01:38:48,920 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 35: Quiet Oh I was writing by fan and san.

1579
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 11: Fill these pages.

1580
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 35: With a Starries Rangel your way.

1581
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:28,560
Speaker 15: Sing for me.

1582
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 30: Looking out my window as the sun reads the day,

1583
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,800
birds of singing playing tree to tree.

1584
01:39:45,399 --> 01:39:54,039
Speaker 23: Writing songs come Sweetz's writing by bes Beony.

1585
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 4: Play the skids a day until night, Create that by high.

1586
01:40:25,359 --> 01:40:27,399
Speaker 36: I know you lie.

1587
01:40:33,359 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 11: Fill these pages.

1588
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,079
Speaker 35: With joy boat store horis.

1589
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,079
Speaker 29: Arranging your way.

1590
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 35: Sing for me.

1591
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 11: Looking out my window.

1592
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 7: Is the cloudscoover of the day.

1593
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 12: Wind is going wring his song Nance Way.

1594
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:10,279
Speaker 35: Writing songs come sweet.

1595
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,319
Speaker 7: So writing by me, s.

1596
01:41:14,399 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 25: Beard quiet moments, old house is empty.

1597
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 15: No once on.

1598
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,119
Speaker 11: Fill these pages.

1599
01:42:21,039 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 35: With long storhurries.

1600
01:42:29,239 --> 01:42:30,520
Speaker 7: Range of your home.

1601
01:42:30,399 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 22: Way, sing for me, sit in her hair in this

1602
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:55,239
chair thing again, want the wear hair.

1603
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 7: This world school socks of fool, horror.

1604
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 24: All the round, watch these buildings, grumbo to the raha.

1605
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 7: Ship back on these change and to them mon it's

1606
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:40,399
not the.

1607
01:44:47,079 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 10: Change, wady green Way, witty witty.

1608
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 7: See this he.

1609
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:25,079
Speaker 23: Spreading through the crowd, affording boots.

1610
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 7: Are a long boom.

1611
01:45:28,359 --> 01:45:37,399
Speaker 11: No two parties sayst.

1612
01:45:38,319 --> 01:45:55,159
Speaker 7: Designed to them by friends and family. For she on Shi.

1613
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,199
Speaker 10: Sybody, change.

1614
01:46:13,239 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 3: The eldest the change, very whitingly way. When we go.

1615
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 23: Balla tes shunts holding all those strings, we'll.

1616
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:34,399
Speaker 35: Just ball bits in this bullet go rain.

1617
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Speaker 27: Lead with your hall. Heart loves well at all big games.

1618
01:47:53,319 --> 01:47:59,039
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Speaker 2: W m n H ripped the novels.

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01:52:29,079 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 26: Like a way crushing on the shore, Your.

1685
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 37: Breaking walls down around my heart like rushing wind. You

1686
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:49,600
come in it, our painting it with colors I've never

1687
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:50,800
seen before.

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01:52:54,520 --> 01:53:05,119
Speaker 13: You Your love is a love can Annie.

1689
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Speaker 3: Sound twenty you send my art, Bronny like.

1690
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 15: I think I'm d like you.

1691
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 26: I hear your voice whispering my mind.

1692
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 37: You're telling me leave the sure be heights, greater things

1693
01:53:51,399 --> 01:53:56,880
than I can see on my noise. There's something about

1694
01:53:57,159 --> 01:53:59,439
you that makes me want to go.

1695
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 10: You your hoys a loud, didn't any sound to any

1696
01:54:22,279 --> 01:54:38,319
sent my heart, Ronny co. I think I'm wild you, Yeah,

1697
01:54:38,359 --> 01:55:00,199
I'm wild. Like show me probleble in pos I want

1698
01:55:00,279 --> 01:55:09,359
to see avery thing from me? He spating How long

1699
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,479
to place says beyond reality.

1700
01:55:15,279 --> 01:55:18,359
Speaker 3: Let's go where the clouds meet.

1701
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:26,439
Speaker 10: Say, there are no limits to.

1702
01:55:27,279 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 3: My heart has been said for Because you're.

1703
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,119
Speaker 13: You're this a loud.

1704
01:55:46,399 --> 01:56:00,239
Speaker 38: Any sound winning. You sent my heart of homard in like.

1705
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:05,279
Speaker 3: I think.

1706
01:56:05,479 --> 01:56:07,119
Speaker 10: I'm wild like you.

1707
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a wild like you. I'm runny, I'm runny.

1708
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:23,479
Speaker 7: I'm runny.

1709
01:56:24,199 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 26: I'm runny, I'm runny.

1710
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm running. I'm running. I'm running. I'm running.

1711
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,039
Speaker 26: Because your love is wild.

1712
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: That is wild by Katie Dobbins. Katie is with us

1713
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:56,359
and we're gonna be talking with her in just a

1714
01:56:56,439 --> 01:56:59,159
moment as she makes a return to the show. If

1715
01:56:59,199 --> 01:57:02,199
you are just joining us, of course, on this Saturday morning,

1716
01:57:02,439 --> 01:57:05,640
it is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from

1717
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,680
the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM. We

1718
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:13,279
have entered our number three on this June seven, twenty

1719
01:57:13,479 --> 01:57:16,319
twenty five. Jenny is here, of course, at the news table.

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01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:19,239
Speaker 39: Presence on account of four my gosh, it's her voice.

1721
01:57:19,279 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Amazing.

1722
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:20,119
Speaker 29: Yes.

1723
01:57:20,319 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Yes, By the way, I want to make sure we

1724
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,479
don't forget you had someone you wanted to shout out

1725
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:26,520
this morning.

1726
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,319
Speaker 14: Not a someone my good nephew.

1727
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 39: No, today is an important day and that the Reflex

1728
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,159
Sympathetic District Ye Association is having an it's sixth annual

1729
01:57:37,279 --> 01:57:42,079
Virtual CRPS Awareness Walk. You can look it up online.

1730
01:57:42,119 --> 01:57:44,880
It's on Facebook, It's all over the place. The RCSA

1731
01:57:45,079 --> 01:57:47,800
organization is the one that I love to support because

1732
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:51,600
they raise awareness and help support efforts to find treatments

1733
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:56,439
and cures for CRPS Complex regional pain syndrome so formerly

1734
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:58,359
known as reflect sympathetic distrophe.

1735
01:57:58,439 --> 01:58:01,039
Speaker 31: Don't you love when they just changed the names of things.

1736
01:58:01,279 --> 01:58:05,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's a someone, it's an association, but that's many something.

1737
01:58:06,039 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 31: Someone is a singular, yeah, not a not a plural.

1738
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: No goodness, Oh my goodness. I can't do it. So

1739
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,159
where where should people go to find out?

1740
01:58:15,319 --> 01:58:15,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

1741
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: So information?

1742
01:58:17,319 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 9: Ah?

1743
01:58:18,479 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 1: Is that so that's happening today?

1744
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:21,039
Speaker 28: Yes, it's a.

1745
01:58:21,159 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 39: Virtual all across the country, actually around the world. I

1746
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:28,680
thought you were going to bring this up at the end.

1747
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,479
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll mention it. We'll mention it again at the

1748
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,560
end too, But yeah, I just didn't want to forget.

1749
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:35,039
Speaker 14: Yeah, well I'll give more info later.

1750
01:58:35,199 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh very good, very good. And uh let's see,

1751
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,479
so Katie is here, let me get that make up, Katie.

1752
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:41,640
Welcome back to the show.

1753
01:58:42,439 --> 01:58:44,119
Speaker 14: Hi, thanks, thanks for having me.

1754
01:58:44,319 --> 01:58:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked, Uh so we did talk a little bit.

1755
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,560
It was a couple of months. It was still during

1756
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:51,520
the winter or was the end of winter. It was

1757
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:55,279
like it was like it was like we thought winter

1758
01:58:55,479 --> 01:58:58,439
was over and then woke up one morning to a

1759
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:03,439
winter wonderland that was wild. Yeah, that was that was

1760
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,520
so traveling was a bit difficult, but you did call in,

1761
01:59:07,199 --> 01:59:08,439
so that was great. But it's great to see you

1762
01:59:08,479 --> 01:59:09,760
in person. And the last time I saw you in

1763
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:11,600
person was of course on Rob as a Vetos show

1764
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,520
granted State of Mind, So that was a lot of fun.

1765
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,000
But welcome back. Thanks, And I know we talked about

1766
01:59:17,039 --> 01:59:19,800
it on Rob show. But that song wild, that's you know,

1767
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,239
it's different for you, different than can you tell us

1768
01:59:23,239 --> 01:59:25,279
again the story of how that came together in the

1769
01:59:25,279 --> 01:59:27,199
studio for people who might maybe not have heard us

1770
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:28,000
talking about it before.

1771
01:59:28,279 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was really cool because I was doing a

1772
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,439
collection of songs at Rockinghorse Studio and I went in

1773
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,119
one day just to lay the piano tracks because all

1774
01:59:37,279 --> 01:59:40,239
three songs that I had chosen were piano based songs

1775
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,119
that I had written on that instrument, and so I

1776
01:59:43,279 --> 01:59:45,239
laid the three songs and then I was like, you know,

1777
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,439
I do have another piano song that I could throw

1778
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,319
in here, but it was kind of a last minute

1779
01:59:50,399 --> 01:59:53,039
let's try it. Let me just record the piano and

1780
01:59:53,439 --> 01:59:55,479
let you guys hear it, and if down the road

1781
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,640
you feel it and we want to add anything to it,

1782
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,439
we will. And so I kind of it on a whim. Again,

1783
02:00:01,479 --> 02:00:04,279
I had only been planning on doing three singles, and

1784
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,479
the guys in the studio they loved it, and I wasn't.

1785
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:11,119
I hadn't gone in with any idea of production or anything,

1786
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:15,000
so again wasn't planning on recording it. And so because

1787
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:16,760
of that, we had a lot of freedom to just

1788
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:20,399
try stuff, and the production ended up coming out really

1789
02:00:20,479 --> 02:00:23,239
unique and different than anything I've done. So it was

1790
02:00:23,439 --> 02:00:26,159
an exciting process and really fun. And my dad's actually

1791
02:00:26,199 --> 02:00:28,840
on that track too. He did a speaking part that's

1792
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:31,960
kind of embedded in there, which is pretty neat.

1793
02:00:32,119 --> 02:00:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you approached him with that, what did he like?

1794
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:36,239
How did he react?

1795
02:00:36,279 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 29: A first?

1796
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 1: Was he was he into it? Was he skeptical? Was

1797
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:39,760
he like, what you want me to do?

1798
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:43,039
Speaker 14: What I think he was like so excited, but he

1799
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:45,840
was also nervous, so both.

1800
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it came out great. Do you usually

1801
02:00:51,079 --> 02:00:53,760
write on the piano. You mentioned the three tracks he recorded,

1802
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:55,359
there were all songs he wrote on the piano.

1803
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 14: I've been writing more on the piano. But a piano

1804
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,359
was actually my first instrument when I was younger. But

1805
02:01:01,479 --> 02:01:04,119
I was I learned classically, so I was, you know,

1806
02:01:04,199 --> 02:01:08,319
classically trained kind of, and so it took me a

1807
02:01:08,399 --> 02:01:11,039
while to realize, oh, I could write on piano just

1808
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:13,640
like I write on guitar, because you know, you've heard

1809
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,840
guitar all you need is three chords in the truth.

1810
02:01:16,239 --> 02:01:18,079
So once I learned three chords on guitar, it was like,

1811
02:01:18,159 --> 02:01:19,760
oh my gosh, I was writing all these songs. I

1812
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,640
was in eighth grade, and I was just like, oh,

1813
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:24,319
I'm writing about my life. This is awesome. But it

1814
02:01:24,479 --> 02:01:27,640
wasn't until much later that I kind of challenged myself

1815
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,319
to think, wait, I think I could create stuff on

1816
02:01:30,359 --> 02:01:33,439
the piano as well. So yeah, I do. I do both.

1817
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,680
And sometimes I don't write on an instrument at all.

1818
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:39,159
I just I lyrics and melody comes first, and I

1819
02:01:39,319 --> 02:01:41,680
do I'll write like a whole song with no instrument

1820
02:01:42,159 --> 02:01:43,279
and then add things later.

1821
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard a lot of a lot of instructors

1822
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:50,520
say that it's it's a good idea to learn at

1823
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,880
least no matter what instrument you're playing, to learn at

1824
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:55,199
least some basic keyboarding because it will help you with

1825
02:01:55,279 --> 02:01:58,119
everything else, which, sadly I never bothered to do. I

1826
02:01:58,399 --> 02:02:00,960
had to. I had one of those old, cheap cassio

1827
02:02:01,079 --> 02:02:03,359
keyboards growing up, but I never really learned to play it.

1828
02:02:03,439 --> 02:02:07,079
But yeah, but what do you play anything else? You

1829
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:09,159
play guitar, you play piano? Do you play anything else?

1830
02:02:09,279 --> 02:02:13,479
Speaker 14: Or every now and then, if someone lets me, I'll

1831
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,920
play khone really yeah, yeah, like on one of their

1832
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:20,239
songs or something. But just I don't. I haven't done

1833
02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:23,520
anything technical with it. I have my dad has a

1834
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:25,920
bass guitar that he was learning how to play, and

1835
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,600
I've picked that up a couple of times and fiddled

1836
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:30,520
around with it. It's an instrument i'd like to learn.

1837
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,840
I just haven't dedicated enough time to it.

1838
02:02:33,159 --> 02:02:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can pick it up quick. I mean, if

1839
02:02:35,239 --> 02:02:36,800
you're already played guitar, you can pick up the bass

1840
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:37,399
pretty quick.

1841
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, It's it makes sense because it's frets and I

1842
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:42,680
tried to learn violin when I was younger, and I

1843
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:46,800
also attempted the saxophone both. I thought I was doing

1844
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:50,560
pretty good, but I think my family didn't agree.

1845
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:54,239
Speaker 1: Right, right, Saxophone's loud instrument.

1846
02:02:54,359 --> 02:02:57,039
Speaker 14: Ye, no, they're so super supportive, but I think there

1847
02:02:57,079 --> 02:03:00,520
are some instruments that, like, if it's not coming quickly

1848
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,840
and naturally, might be more painful to listen to.

1849
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,199
Speaker 1: Them, right, No, that makes sense, That makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

1850
02:03:06,239 --> 02:03:06,479
but I.

1851
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,479
Speaker 14: Love the violin. I wish that I had fully learned

1852
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:10,880
it because it's just so beautiful.

1853
02:03:11,079 --> 02:03:11,279
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1854
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1855
02:03:12,079 --> 02:03:13,319
Speaker 1: Now, do you have a busy summer or are you

1856
02:03:13,359 --> 02:03:15,239
playing a lot? I would imagine you're playing out there.

1857
02:03:15,399 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, And I have some things I'm excited about.

1858
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:24,119
I I record with other instrumentalists and singers, like most

1859
02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:26,560
of my music is recorded with a band and kind

1860
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:30,760
of bringing out that fuller production. But normally when I perform,

1861
02:03:31,079 --> 02:03:34,920
I'm pretty much always solo. I haven't really done band

1862
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:38,119
shows since, you know, my different album release shows that

1863
02:03:38,159 --> 02:03:41,399
I did years ago, and a couple other kind of

1864
02:03:41,439 --> 02:03:44,119
special things. But this summer I have a full band

1865
02:03:44,199 --> 02:03:46,840
show coming up at Bank in New Hampshire Pavilion on

1866
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:47,760
their side stage.

1867
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So that'll be.

1868
02:03:49,479 --> 02:03:53,119
Speaker 14: Fun to bring the fullness back together again and perform

1869
02:03:53,159 --> 02:03:55,640
with other people. And then I don't know if you

1870
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,199
know Chris Noise. He's a bass player. He played on

1871
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,119
these new singles.

1872
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:02,119
Speaker 1: On and I don't think I know Chris. Is he

1873
02:04:02,199 --> 02:04:05,720
related to Ron Noise? I don't know, because Ron Ron's

1874
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,439
a musician. I wonder if they're related. No, No, I

1875
02:04:08,439 --> 02:04:09,319
don't think I know Chris.

1876
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:12,239
Speaker 14: So he played bass on some of my studio tracks

1877
02:04:12,319 --> 02:04:15,199
and he's playing with me up in Portsmouth at the

1878
02:04:15,359 --> 02:04:17,560
Tuesdays on the terrace at Strawberry Bank Museum.

1879
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:18,119
Speaker 1: Oh cool.

1880
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,479
Speaker 14: So we've got that and a couple other kind of

1881
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,000
fun outdoor summer shows where I'm playing with him and

1882
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,640
another guy on drums. So it'll be fun to play

1883
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:30,479
with other people again and bring the songs to life

1884
02:04:30,479 --> 02:04:31,199
in a different way.

1885
02:04:31,479 --> 02:04:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't sound like you have any any

1886
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,439
interest in doing like a permanent full band.

1887
02:04:36,319 --> 02:04:40,439
Speaker 14: We'll see see where things go. I'm never Before we

1888
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,199
went live on air, you guys were saying, like we

1889
02:04:43,319 --> 02:04:45,760
go with the flow, like we're not really married to anything.

1890
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:48,520
That's kind of how I feel. I don't know, I

1891
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:52,199
have I have hopes, but I don't have like necessarily

1892
02:04:52,319 --> 02:04:55,039
set in stone expectations that I want or don't want.

1893
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:58,119
So if it, if it came together naturally and it

1894
02:04:58,279 --> 02:05:01,079
was like really fun and everybody holy jibed, I could

1895
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:01,680
see doing.

1896
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 1: More of it for sure. Yeah, no, that makes sense.

1897
02:05:04,159 --> 02:05:06,000
And are you still are you still just putting out

1898
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:09,279
singles or do you have an EP or I don't.

1899
02:05:09,439 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 14: I was just shy of an EP when I recorded

1900
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,520
my four songs, Okay, I mean I suppose I could

1901
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:17,319
have turned it into a collection. I've thought about adding

1902
02:05:17,479 --> 02:05:20,359
some songs and making it a full collection. I'm not

1903
02:05:20,479 --> 02:05:24,279
there yet. I haven't. I actually have one kind of

1904
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:30,039
wintery song, not to bring snow back up, but I

1905
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:34,439
have one song that I'm working on recording. It's kind

1906
02:05:34,479 --> 02:05:36,640
of a mix of I recorded some of it at

1907
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:40,199
home and some of it at Mike Moran's home studio.

1908
02:05:40,359 --> 02:05:42,720
He is a drummer and a bass player and a guitarist,

1909
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:44,960
and we've played together a lot in the past, and

1910
02:05:45,199 --> 02:05:47,720
we have some stuff coming up this summer, so we've

1911
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:51,720
been working on product producing that song together. So and

1912
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:55,199
then I have some other ideas, but nothing no like

1913
02:05:55,399 --> 02:05:57,039
exciting release dates to share.

1914
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: Right now, You've worked with a number of different right,

1915
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:01,279
it seems like you've.

1916
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, every project has been totally different. First record I

1917
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:11,600
recorded in New Hampshire with Ryan Ordway and yeah, yeah,

1918
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:14,079
and that was really fun. And then my second record

1919
02:06:14,119 --> 02:06:17,720
I recorded on the South Shore in mass with Sean McLoughlin.

1920
02:06:18,399 --> 02:06:21,239
And then this last collection I did with Brian Coombs

1921
02:06:21,279 --> 02:06:24,279
at Rocking Horror Studios in Pittsfield, and then I've done

1922
02:06:24,279 --> 02:06:26,039
a little bit tried to do a little bit of

1923
02:06:26,079 --> 02:06:28,600
home recording too and kind of feeling that out. But

1924
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:31,079
it is a lot of work to record your own stuff.

1925
02:06:31,079 --> 02:06:32,000
I mean, it's a lot of work to go to

1926
02:06:32,039 --> 02:06:34,239
the studio too, but oh yeah, you have other hands

1927
02:06:34,279 --> 02:06:37,279
and eyes and ears on it and they know what

1928
02:06:37,319 --> 02:06:40,159
they're doing more than like, I'm sort of learning as

1929
02:06:40,199 --> 02:06:42,039
I go. But it's fun. I like that part of

1930
02:06:42,119 --> 02:06:42,359
it too.

1931
02:06:42,479 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the adventure of it. Yeah. Do

1932
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,039
you want to play something for us?

1933
02:06:46,279 --> 02:06:46,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1934
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:52,159
Speaker 1: Sure, let me turn up that. Uh yeah, go and

1935
02:06:52,279 --> 02:06:53,600
go and strum a little. I just want to make

1936
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:58,439
sure I get there. Oh yeah, that sounds good. Mad phones, Yeah, excellent,

1937
02:06:59,079 --> 02:07:00,119
All right, cool.

1938
02:07:01,159 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 14: I'm going to play a brand new one for you,

1939
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:03,359
if that's okay.

1940
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:04,159
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1941
02:07:05,399 --> 02:07:08,039
Speaker 14: So, I've been trying to challenge myself. I think I

1942
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:11,199
mentioned this to you last time. I saw you challenge

1943
02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:14,680
myself to make time for songwriting, which sounds like, well, duh,

1944
02:07:15,039 --> 02:07:18,079
you're a songwriter, right, is that all you do? But

1945
02:07:19,119 --> 02:07:21,239
sometimes the weeks just go by and I'm like, oh

1946
02:07:21,319 --> 02:07:25,800
my gosh, like my creative need is just like being

1947
02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:28,560
squished down. And so I've been trying to bring that

1948
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:30,960
more to the forefront. So and trying to write more songs,

1949
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:33,640
which if anyone's listening, I would like to follow along

1950
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:37,159
on my new songwriting journey. I've been sharing things, all

1951
02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:40,600
the new stuff on Patreon, which is like a place

1952
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:44,159
online that you can support artists, and patreon dot com

1953
02:07:44,319 --> 02:07:46,760
slash Katidobbins music. But this is one of the ones

1954
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:51,239
that I wrote for my almost song a week project,

1955
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:55,319
not quite a song a week but okay. It's called

1956
02:07:55,399 --> 02:07:57,800
Coffee in the Morning, and it's about how when you

1957
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:01,159
fall in love and suddenly you're liking things and doing

1958
02:08:01,239 --> 02:08:04,079
things that you never really cared about before, just because

1959
02:08:04,079 --> 02:08:04,840
of that other person.

1960
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:18,439
Speaker 37: You know, is it that wrangler or your rugged hands

1961
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:23,479
in my is it that open road or the smell

1962
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:29,760
of your cologne. Do I even like the challenge of

1963
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:35,319
a standard? It just the way you lie every time

1964
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:44,399
I stole it. I don't even know if I like

1965
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:50,439
coffee in the morning. Maybe there's just something about the

1966
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:54,800
way you pull reformed me as the sun lights up

1967
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:59,399
the kitchen were too early for my liking. But I

1968
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:08,399
like Kevin that quiet time with you. Is it that

1969
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,199
country song or the way you sing it for me?

1970
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:17,199
Is it that dance floor or the way you pull

1971
02:09:17,399 --> 02:09:24,239
me clothes? Do I even like staying up past midnight?

1972
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,880
Or just the way you hold my hand walking in

1973
02:09:29,199 --> 02:09:31,000
me home?

1974
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:40,399
Speaker 40: I don't even know if I should like that whiskey bourbon.

1975
02:09:41,239 --> 02:09:45,640
Maybe there's just something about the taste of it on

1976
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:46,600
your lips.

1977
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 37: As the moon lights up the kitchen ware too late

1978
02:09:51,439 --> 02:09:55,600
for my liking. But I like talking into.

1979
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 31: The night with you.

1980
02:10:00,039 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 37: I don't even know if I like bike rides, a

1981
02:10:04,159 --> 02:10:09,279
game nice using fireflies in a job.

1982
02:10:12,159 --> 02:10:14,840
Speaker 40: I don't think I even't need's a.

1983
02:10:15,159 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 37: Gold fishing or stay all night chasing stars.

1984
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:29,880
Speaker 31: Unless it's where you are, unless it's.

1985
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:30,479
Speaker 12: When you.

1986
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:44,119
Speaker 37: Because I don't even know if I like coffee in

1987
02:10:44,319 --> 02:10:49,439
the morning. Maybe there's just something in about the way

1988
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:53,600
you poor informed me as the soul in lights up

1989
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:57,520
the kitchen way too early for my liking.

1990
02:10:58,039 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 31: But I like heaven quiet time with you.

1991
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:13,439
Speaker 37: I don't even know if I like coffee in the morning,

1992
02:11:15,039 --> 02:11:17,720
but I know really.

1993
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 31: Like the way you pour it for me.

1994
02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful, thank you, very nice, very nice. So

1995
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:37,800
that's uh so that's new. That's that's very new.

1996
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,319
Speaker 14: Then, right, Yeah, I wrote that a couple months ago.

1997
02:11:40,439 --> 02:11:43,079
Speaker 1: Now, very cool, very cool. If you're just joining us.

1998
02:11:43,119 --> 02:11:45,600
Katie Dobbins is here with us, alive in studio and

1999
02:11:46,319 --> 02:11:51,000
sounding amazing. So so you haven't Are you playing that

2000
02:11:51,039 --> 02:11:52,000
one out curly or is that?

2001
02:11:52,279 --> 02:11:52,399
Speaker 2: Uh?

2002
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:53,399
Speaker 4: Or have you not?

2003
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 31: Yeah?

2004
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 14: I played it a couple of times at live shows.

2005
02:11:56,159 --> 02:11:56,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2006
02:11:56,479 --> 02:11:58,079
Speaker 14: I think that was the radio debut.

2007
02:11:58,479 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, We Love That, We Love the We Love

2008
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,960
the World premieres here. Do you have any idea how

2009
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:06,800
many songs you've written at this point? Can you put

2010
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,039
like like like Is it in triple digits yet? Do

2011
02:12:10,119 --> 02:12:10,439
you think?

2012
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 23: Or?

2013
02:12:11,399 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

2014
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:16,199
Speaker 14: I mean it probably depends on if I want to

2015
02:12:16,279 --> 02:12:19,840
count every song I've ever written, probably yes, But if

2016
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,439
I just count the ones that I like, Yeah, I'm

2017
02:12:23,479 --> 02:12:23,880
not sure.

2018
02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, do they? Do you have some that you've kind

2019
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,319
of retired? Like, are there some early ones that used

2020
02:12:29,319 --> 02:12:30,479
to play that you don't play anymore?

2021
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2022
02:12:31,159 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 14: I mean I I play the stuff from my first

2023
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:39,239
album still. I play several of those songs out, not

2024
02:12:39,479 --> 02:12:42,600
all of them. And then there are some, Yeah, the

2025
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,760
some originals that I used to play, Like when you

2026
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:47,720
first write it and you're like, I really love this

2027
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:49,760
song because you wrote you just wrote it, so you're

2028
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:53,359
feeling real, like passionate and emotional about it because you.

2029
02:12:53,399 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 1: Know it just came from yours.

2030
02:12:56,840 --> 02:13:00,039
Speaker 14: And yeah, So I had some like that I've I

2031
02:13:00,039 --> 02:13:02,199
felt really excited about in the moment and then kind

2032
02:13:02,239 --> 02:13:04,840
of down the road was that sort of faded, you know,

2033
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:08,239
and they really got their full full moment in the sun,

2034
02:13:08,319 --> 02:13:08,680
I guess.

2035
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:09,159
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2036
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've probably asked you this before, But do you

2037
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:12,920
remember the first song you ever wrote?

2038
02:13:15,319 --> 02:13:18,319
Speaker 14: The first song I wrote was a co write? Well,

2039
02:13:19,079 --> 02:13:21,560
the first song I wrote was actually a cappella in

2040
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:25,039
like fifth grade, and I wrote it my best friend

2041
02:13:25,079 --> 02:13:28,199
had moved to California and I was so sad, and

2042
02:13:28,319 --> 02:13:30,279
so I wrote this song about you know, my I

2043
02:13:30,319 --> 02:13:32,359
think it was called best friend. The first song I

2044
02:13:32,399 --> 02:13:34,399
ever wrote on guitar was a co write. My friend

2045
02:13:35,239 --> 02:13:37,439
Sarah Ellen had taught me a few chords on guitar

2046
02:13:38,119 --> 02:13:41,159
and she had been writing songs. So we're like, let's

2047
02:13:41,159 --> 02:13:43,640
write a song together. And we wrote a song about

2048
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,359
our grandfather's But if you asked me to play it,

2049
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:49,680
I truly don't remember how it goes. Yeah, yeah, but

2050
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:51,840
I remember thinking it was really good. I was so

2051
02:13:52,199 --> 02:13:53,720
you know, we were so excited about it, and we

2052
02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:56,560
played it at some open mics and things like that,

2053
02:13:57,199 --> 02:13:59,359
which is like really really fun. Yeah, you know, you're

2054
02:13:59,399 --> 02:14:02,680
in eighth grade on stage playing a duet that you

2055
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:04,479
wrote and you just feel like a rock star.

2056
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:08,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I have you You've been doing this full

2057
02:14:08,239 --> 02:14:10,159
time now for quite some time, right, a.

2058
02:14:10,159 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 14: Few years now.

2059
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:11,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2060
02:14:12,199 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 14: I think I made the shift to full time in

2061
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:19,680
like spring of twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, okay, Yeah,

2062
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:21,920
And it took it took a while to find my

2063
02:14:22,039 --> 02:14:25,520
stride and still kind of, you know, figuring out balance.

2064
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:27,359
I feel like I talk about balance a lot, but

2065
02:14:27,439 --> 02:14:30,600
it's hard. You wear so many hats when you're Oh, yeah,

2066
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:33,359
music is it's not just songwriting and performing, but you're

2067
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:35,439
I think of it as like you're running your own business.

2068
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,760
You know, you're booking, you're promoting, you're trying to make money,

2069
02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:41,520
you're doing you know, recording all this stuff. Yeah, And

2070
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,760
so finding balance and a good rhythm is something I

2071
02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:49,079
feel like I'm always like working on getting a little

2072
02:14:49,119 --> 02:14:52,520
more honed in. But it's fun. I love it, and

2073
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:54,720
since making the decision to do it full time, I've

2074
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:58,039
never regretted it at all. But I will say it's

2075
02:14:58,079 --> 02:15:00,960
not for everyone because I feel like whenever I tell

2076
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:03,319
another artist, oh, yeah, I do it full time, because

2077
02:15:03,319 --> 02:15:05,159
they'll ask what do you do during the day. Yeah,

2078
02:15:06,239 --> 02:15:08,000
And I feel like a lot of times people say, oh,

2079
02:15:08,199 --> 02:15:09,239
like I want to.

2080
02:15:09,279 --> 02:15:09,760
Speaker 26: Do that too.

2081
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 14: I'm just I'm trying to get there, and almost from

2082
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:15,920
a place of like they feel like they're not doing

2083
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:18,439
it yet if they're not doing it full time or something,

2084
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:21,079
and it's like you really have to assess. I mean,

2085
02:15:21,239 --> 02:15:25,800
it's it's it adds a sort of you have to

2086
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:28,079
really want to do it full time and know that

2087
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:30,560
there's going to be a period of like hardship that

2088
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:33,159
comes with that, and be okay with that. And also

2089
02:15:33,239 --> 02:15:36,279
there's nothing wrong with having you know, a job that

2090
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,319
you're good at or that you like that you know,

2091
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:43,039
funds funds what you love too, and it gives you

2092
02:15:43,159 --> 02:15:46,800
that like consistency. So I love doing it how I'm

2093
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:48,680
doing it, But I don't think it's for everybody. So

2094
02:15:49,279 --> 02:15:51,840
when I say that, if you're an artist listening, don't

2095
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:53,800
feel pressured to like I need to do that too,

2096
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,199
you don't, you know, everybody does this so differently.

2097
02:15:56,319 --> 02:15:59,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think too, you know, if you

2098
02:16:00,359 --> 02:16:02,680
you can still call yourself a professional musician even if

2099
02:16:02,680 --> 02:16:04,920
you're doing it part time. You know, the way I've

2100
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:08,039
always looked at it is, and really with any profession,

2101
02:16:08,119 --> 02:16:10,159
you can call yourself a professional if you've ever been

2102
02:16:10,199 --> 02:16:12,520
paid for what you do. True, That's how I look

2103
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:14,079
at it. So even if even if you you know,

2104
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:18,279
you've just gotten you know, thirty dollars, you know, playing

2105
02:16:18,279 --> 02:16:21,199
a set somewhere, well, you're now a professional musician. If somebody,

2106
02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:23,640
if somebody gave you money, you know, for that, then

2107
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:27,119
you're now a professional. And you know, I think I

2108
02:16:27,159 --> 02:16:29,880
think sometimes, yeah, I think sometimes people get self conscious

2109
02:16:30,119 --> 02:16:32,360
about it, you know, if they're if they're doing it

2110
02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:35,639
part time, you know, but they're still working at something else.

2111
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:37,600
But but I think too part of the key is,

2112
02:16:37,639 --> 02:16:38,920
and you kind of alluded to it, if you have

2113
02:16:39,079 --> 02:16:42,799
if you have another job that you really love, then

2114
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:45,319
you know, because the important thing is to fill your life,

2115
02:16:45,479 --> 02:16:48,239
I think with things that you love to do, you know,

2116
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:51,879
whether it's part time, full time, whether you're a full

2117
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:54,399
time musician or a part time musician and full time

2118
02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:56,760
doing something else or whatever it is. You know, don't

2119
02:16:56,959 --> 02:16:58,879
you don't want to no matter what. You don't want

2120
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:01,559
to waste your life do things you hate, which is

2121
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,040
what a lot of people do. You know, They work

2122
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:05,639
their whole lives at a job they don't like, and

2123
02:17:05,719 --> 02:17:09,040
it's like, why find something you love?

2124
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:09,399
Speaker 9: You know?

2125
02:17:09,639 --> 02:17:10,559
Speaker 14: You know definitely.

2126
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 1: Now, do you have any advice for people who are

2127
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:15,159
you know, because a lot of musicians listen to the

2128
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:16,719
show and a lot of industry people. Do you have

2129
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:20,680
any advice for someone who is really thinking about trying

2130
02:17:20,719 --> 02:17:23,680
to do this full time but they're hesitant.

2131
02:17:24,079 --> 02:17:26,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would talk to people who are doing it

2132
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:28,239
full time. Yeah, that's what I did. I talked to

2133
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:30,479
several people that were doing it full time and I

2134
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:33,600
was like, what is this really like for you? How

2135
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:36,799
is this working? And I found out that most people

2136
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:38,559
that are doing it full time that you know, they

2137
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:42,559
are getting support in some way loved ones, or they're

2138
02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:48,040
sacrificing something, you know, like my Manny Petticures I used

2139
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:50,440
to be able to get for myself on someone. I mean,

2140
02:17:50,479 --> 02:17:53,120
that's a tiny sacrifice. I'm part kidding, but you know,

2141
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,719
you said you might sacrifice like some kind of lifestyle

2142
02:17:55,760 --> 02:17:57,440
that you're used to in order to pursue this. And

2143
02:17:58,200 --> 02:18:00,639
just I would talk to somebody who's doing it, or

2144
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:02,559
multiple people that are doing it, just to get like

2145
02:18:02,639 --> 02:18:06,079
a full picture of what this actually is before you,

2146
02:18:07,239 --> 02:18:10,840
you know, just put the pedal to the metal and

2147
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:14,040
you know, give up everything you know and and go

2148
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:19,159
in blindly. So that because it always sounds like such

2149
02:18:19,159 --> 02:18:21,479
a dream, you know, but you really want to make

2150
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,879
an informed decision about and ask yourself, is this really

2151
02:18:25,159 --> 02:18:25,799
what I want to do?

2152
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 5: Right?

2153
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:29,719
Speaker 1: And nothing's as glamorous as it looks from the outside either,

2154
02:18:30,959 --> 02:18:32,600
you know, And as you also mentioned, there's a lot

2155
02:18:32,639 --> 02:18:35,079
of work. You know, it's not just creating music. It's

2156
02:18:35,399 --> 02:18:37,639
all the business stuff you got to do, right, and

2157
02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:40,600
keeping up with social media too, which some people enjoy

2158
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:42,639
and embrace and some people are just like I wish

2159
02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:44,000
I didn't have to do that part, but you do

2160
02:18:44,159 --> 02:18:44,920
have to do that part.

2161
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:47,559
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I feel like it ebbs and flows too,

2162
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:51,760
like I have, and I used to get harder on myself,

2163
02:18:51,799 --> 02:18:54,079
and I'm accepting this more and more. Like there are

2164
02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:58,000
seasons where I'm doing a lot more stuff online social media,

2165
02:18:58,319 --> 02:19:00,280
you know, posting videos, things like that, and there are

2166
02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:01,920
seasons where I'm playing out a lot more so I

2167
02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:04,319
don't have as much time to be present online. Then

2168
02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:07,280
there are seasons where, oh it's a slower show season,

2169
02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:10,000
so I'm songwriting or I'm in the studio. And I

2170
02:19:10,079 --> 02:19:11,959
think at first I felt like I have to do

2171
02:19:12,079 --> 02:19:15,840
all these things all the time, you know, like and

2172
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:17,840
I still feel that a little bit, but it's like

2173
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:21,079
being okay with the ebb and flow of what it

2174
02:19:21,239 --> 02:19:26,319
means to be an art maker and performer, like distributor

2175
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:29,920
of that art. There's just you can't always do it

2176
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,479
all all the time or you totally burn.

2177
02:19:32,319 --> 02:19:35,600
Speaker 1: Out, right right, Yeah, no doubt. Oh do you want

2178
02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:36,559
to play another one for us?

2179
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'll play giants since you told me you like

2180
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:42,280
this one, do Yeah.

2181
02:19:42,440 --> 02:19:45,239
Speaker 1: So the first time I heard that was on Rob Show,

2182
02:19:46,360 --> 02:19:48,079
that was the first time I'd heard that song, and yeah,

2183
02:19:48,079 --> 02:19:51,440
I love this song. Yeah cool absolutely Haadie Dobbins live

2184
02:19:51,479 --> 02:19:51,959
in studio.

2185
02:19:53,239 --> 02:19:54,799
Speaker 14: I feel like this is a good song to play

2186
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:59,840
right now too, because it's about doing things that feel

2187
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,920
hard and facing the things that feel impossible in your

2188
02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:06,799
life and remembering that you are actually more powerful than

2189
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:11,600
you may realize. And the giants in your life they're

2190
02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:15,360
just make believe, like those giants in your closet when

2191
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:34,200
you're a little kid. Your sweatshirt falling off my shoulder.

2192
02:20:36,239 --> 02:20:41,879
It's too big, But then again, it only was when

2193
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:46,319
did I become so small? Living in your shadow?

2194
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:52,440
Speaker 37: I don't fill the space shaddle feels like I've been swallowed.

2195
02:20:57,239 --> 02:21:04,479
Don't take too much space, my mind said, shrink so

2196
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:13,879
I don't riskiny thing. They to be safe then to

2197
02:21:14,399 --> 02:21:20,799
be sorry, Well I'm sorry. I don't feel safe. Fu

2198
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:28,840
frount shy. Maybe it's time I come outa hi day

2199
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:32,719
Aptain sawt just makes me good.

2200
02:21:32,920 --> 02:21:34,600
Speaker 13: I lie.

2201
02:21:36,319 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 3: Just so you could think that you're the child.

2202
02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:48,479
Speaker 40: Your colone rushing off my shoulder.

2203
02:21:49,959 --> 02:21:56,280
Speaker 37: It's over powering, But then again, it onlys was now

2204
02:21:56,440 --> 02:21:58,799
that I am coming clean.

2205
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:01,280
Speaker 26: Shutting everything but me.

2206
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:07,680
Speaker 31: Doing all my skin. Tell me, are you panicking?

2207
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:12,079
Speaker 3: Baby?

2208
02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 31: Do you feelcy far round?

2209
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:15,760
Speaker 3: Try?

2210
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:18,360
Speaker 7: Because I think.

2211
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:21,799
Speaker 40: It's time I come out of hiding.

2212
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:26,079
Speaker 31: Acting smutch just makes me god.

2213
02:22:26,399 --> 02:22:28,000
Speaker 12: I lie in.

2214
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:37,959
Speaker 3: Just so you could think that you're cho, but you're

2215
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:39,440
no cho.

2216
02:22:44,559 --> 02:22:52,799
Speaker 37: Don't take too much space, my mind said shrink, so

2217
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:56,120
I don't raise anything.

2218
02:22:57,440 --> 02:23:00,879
Speaker 31: Trying to pull takes me.

2219
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:03,399
Speaker 6: But I know now.

2220
02:23:05,639 --> 02:23:16,360
Speaker 10: The giant Sarmake believe their make Bullie.

2221
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:27,200
Speaker 36: So I don't feel the faid around no Chie, I

2222
02:23:27,479 --> 02:23:29,879
know it's Timac Commuda.

2223
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:36,079
Speaker 40: Hating hapting swages makes me con and.

2224
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:54,879
Speaker 10: But you are no Chaiet. There are no Chi. Giant

2225
02:23:55,239 --> 02:24:04,120
Sarmick believe their mag b.

2226
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:17,040
Speaker 37: Acting small just makes me good. Lion, you are only

2227
02:24:17,399 --> 02:24:24,479
giants in my mind. Acting small just makes me good.

2228
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:31,239
Speaker 40: Lying you are only giant.

2229
02:24:31,799 --> 02:24:33,000
Speaker 31: In my mind.

2230
02:24:34,559 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 3: And giants sorchised make.

2231
02:24:42,159 --> 02:24:42,680
Speaker 31: Bullie.

2232
02:24:50,120 --> 02:24:53,319
Speaker 1: I love it, Katie Dobbins live in studio. Yeah, that

2233
02:24:53,479 --> 02:24:57,000
is a great, great song. Oh I love it. Great song,

2234
02:24:57,159 --> 02:24:59,200
great song that one's been out for a little while, right,

2235
02:24:59,399 --> 02:25:00,840
But that is that is that kind.

2236
02:25:00,719 --> 02:25:04,079
Speaker 14: Of newer Yeah, that's like in my newer collection of

2237
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:06,360
singles recorded at Rocking Horse.

2238
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Okay, okay and.

2239
02:25:07,799 --> 02:25:11,559
Speaker 14: That when I actually started writing on the electric guitar. Yeah,

2240
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:14,399
I have an electric guitar. I just I don't play

2241
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:16,239
it out. I would like to learn how to do

2242
02:25:16,360 --> 02:25:21,639
cool stuff on it. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, I

2243
02:25:21,799 --> 02:25:23,559
kind of had like a little riff going, and then

2244
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:26,920
I moved to acoustic guitar, and then I was like, no,

2245
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:28,200
this is a piano song.

2246
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:31,840
Speaker 1: So, oh okay. Have you have you played electric guitar

2247
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:34,559
on any of your studio recordings so far?

2248
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,280
Speaker 14: No other people have played my guitar.

2249
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:39,479
Speaker 12: It's in there.

2250
02:25:39,959 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2251
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, actually that's not true. I recorded I have a

2252
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:48,479
single called Starlights that I recorded during the pandemic in

2253
02:25:48,559 --> 02:25:51,639
my home studio. Oh okay, that I actually did do

2254
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:56,280
my own little electric guitar riff on. Oh really Yeah,

2255
02:25:56,319 --> 02:26:00,680
you want to check out my electric guitar playing. You

2256
02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:02,000
can check out Starlights.

2257
02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, very cool, very cool. When you when

2258
02:26:07,159 --> 02:26:09,159
you play out, I mean you must do some covers too, right,

2259
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:11,040
I assume you make some covers in Yeah.

2260
02:26:11,319 --> 02:26:13,399
Speaker 14: Yeah, it depends on the show. Yeah. If I'm doing

2261
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:16,120
like a three hour gig, for sure. Yeah, and then

2262
02:26:16,319 --> 02:26:18,040
I have I have a bunch of shows coming out

2263
02:26:18,079 --> 02:26:20,280
this summer that are like focused on original music that

2264
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:23,319
I'm really excited about. Yeah, but even when I do that,

2265
02:26:23,479 --> 02:26:26,319
I'll throw in, you know, one or two just people

2266
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:27,760
kind of like something familiar.

2267
02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, and it's fun.

2268
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,559
Speaker 14: It's fun to I always think, like, how cool it

2269
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:35,319
must be to be Taylor Swift or something and you

2270
02:26:35,399 --> 02:26:38,239
look out and everyone's singing every lyric to your song, right,

2271
02:26:38,399 --> 02:26:41,000
But that's that's fun about covers, is you know. Sometimes

2272
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:43,280
I'll transition into a cover song from an original. It's

2273
02:26:43,319 --> 02:26:46,360
just fun to look out and see people bopping around

2274
02:26:46,399 --> 02:26:49,559
and singing along with you, and yeah, fun moment.

2275
02:26:49,639 --> 02:26:49,879
Speaker 2: Do you have?

2276
02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:53,200
Speaker 1: Do you do any covers that you found particularly challenging

2277
02:26:53,280 --> 02:26:56,120
to learn? Sometimes I get some surprising answers when I

2278
02:26:56,159 --> 02:26:58,920
ask people this, So I'm just curious, like, is there

2279
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:00,399
anything you said I'm gonna learn that one? And then

2280
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:01,639
it turned out to be kind of challenging.

2281
02:27:02,479 --> 02:27:06,639
Speaker 14: I don't think so, But I don't learn traditionally, Like

2282
02:27:06,760 --> 02:27:09,239
if I'm learning a new cover, I sort of just

2283
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,639
will look up the chords and then play it however

2284
02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:16,559
feels good to me. Whereas some people are which would

2285
02:27:16,639 --> 02:27:18,479
be good for me to do, some people are going

2286
02:27:18,559 --> 02:27:20,600
on you know, YouTube and like watching a bunch of

2287
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:23,360
videos and learning how the actual original artist plays it.

2288
02:27:23,559 --> 02:27:23,799
Speaker 1: Sure.

2289
02:27:24,959 --> 02:27:27,639
Speaker 14: I sometimes when I learn to cover, I don't even

2290
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:30,120
know the song that well, like I kind of know it,

2291
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:32,479
and then I feel like it makes it easier to

2292
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:35,959
put my own twists on it because I kind of

2293
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:40,479
I'm learning it, but also like making it feel good

2294
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:42,639
to me because I only kind of know the song.

2295
02:27:44,040 --> 02:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Your own yea.

2296
02:27:45,399 --> 02:27:49,239
Speaker 14: But I I did learn Forever Young is a song

2297
02:27:49,319 --> 02:27:54,000
I love playing by Bob Dylan, and Joni Mitchell has

2298
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:56,520
a version of that song. I'm sorry. Joan Biaz has

2299
02:27:56,559 --> 02:27:59,040
a version of that song that's really beautiful. So I

2300
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:02,959
did learn and her guitar version to it, and it

2301
02:28:03,079 --> 02:28:08,719
was a really pretty like I felt really fancy when

2302
02:28:08,719 --> 02:28:12,959
I learned this, you know, yeah, and it's really pretty.

2303
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:13,399
Speaker 21: Yeah.

2304
02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:15,920
Speaker 14: So that one I did learn traditionally because I was like,

2305
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:17,719
that's just so beautiful. I got to learn that part

2306
02:28:19,079 --> 02:28:20,639
that makes sense, that makes sense.

2307
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:24,399
Speaker 1: You want to play another live one? I yeah, we

2308
02:28:24,479 --> 02:28:25,200
got we got time.

2309
02:28:26,159 --> 02:28:26,360
Speaker 31: Yeah.

2310
02:28:27,040 --> 02:28:29,000
Speaker 1: So selfishly I want to hear more. You just sound

2311
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:29,399
so great.

2312
02:28:29,559 --> 02:28:31,479
Speaker 14: Ah, that's so nice. I want to hear another new

2313
02:28:31,639 --> 02:28:34,280
newer one, Yeah, that would be cool, that would be great.

2314
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:37,040
I have I have a single out. My newest single

2315
02:28:37,360 --> 02:28:44,280
is called Grateful, and it's about gratitude. Yeah shocker uh.

2316
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:46,120
And so I'm not going to play that, but I

2317
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:49,920
will play another song that's sort of on the same theme.

2318
02:28:50,319 --> 02:28:54,719
I feel like it's called miss these Days, because you

2319
02:28:54,799 --> 02:28:57,600
know today, someday we're gonna be like that was the

2320
02:28:57,639 --> 02:28:59,200
good old days. So you got to soak it in.

2321
02:28:59,479 --> 02:29:15,239
Speaker 37: Yep, Mama's calling from the kitchen on the other side

2322
02:29:15,319 --> 02:29:19,600
of the house. I can't hear what she's saying. I

2323
02:29:19,799 --> 02:29:24,319
just chuckle to myself, and the dog is going crazy

2324
02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:29,479
about a squirrel outside the window, and Daddy's watching.

2325
02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:34,799
Speaker 31: News about what God only knows. It's a little bit.

2326
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:39,840
Speaker 37: Of chaos on a quiet country road, in a humble,

2327
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:44,799
old brick house where we made ourselves a home. I

2328
02:29:45,079 --> 02:29:49,520
don't know what tomorrow brings. I'm not sure of much,

2329
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:56,479
but I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I'm

2330
02:29:56,559 --> 02:30:04,920
sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. So I'm living

2331
02:30:05,079 --> 02:30:10,040
on hope and excite me for each day as it comes.

2332
02:30:10,239 --> 02:30:16,000
Speaker 40: Keep showing up for the journey where for ridden may lead.

2333
02:30:16,719 --> 02:30:19,319
Life's father uncertainty.

2334
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:27,399
Speaker 31: But all I wanna do is sulk it in case.

2335
02:30:27,479 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 37: I'm sure some day I'm gonna miss these days. I'm

2336
02:30:33,479 --> 02:30:38,000
sure some day i'm gonna miss things daydays.

2337
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Speaker 31: I'm heading down.

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02:30:43,319 --> 02:30:47,479
Speaker 37: The long road on the way to another show, running

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02:30:47,559 --> 02:30:52,319
on prayers and katheene, hoping my songs will touch your souls.

2340
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:54,399
Speaker 31: And the car is packed so.

2341
02:30:54,639 --> 02:30:59,479
Speaker 37: High I can't see out my back window. I'm following

2342
02:30:59,719 --> 02:31:04,479
my dreams and now some guy who's going so slow.

2343
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:11,159
I got a little bitter road rage on a quiet

2344
02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:16,680
country road in a humble old Volkswagon where I made

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myself a home.

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02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:21,639
Speaker 31: I don't know what tomorrow brings.

2347
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 37: I'm not sure of much, but I'm sure some day

2348
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:32,000
i'm gonna miss Beeds days. I'm sure some day i'm

2349
02:31:32,079 --> 02:31:40,479
gonna miss Beads Day. So I'm living on hope and

2350
02:31:40,680 --> 02:31:44,239
excite me for each day as it comes.

2351
02:31:44,479 --> 02:31:49,440
Speaker 31: Keep showing up for the journey where the bridden.

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02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:54,520
Speaker 40: Maybe life is love hof uncertainty.

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02:31:56,239 --> 02:31:59,879
Speaker 31: But hed all one day is so getting.

2354
02:32:01,639 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 37: Because I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss thesedays. I'm sure

2355
02:32:08,479 --> 02:32:12,079
someday I'm gonna miss the day.

2356
02:32:16,719 --> 02:32:26,719
Speaker 10: So take this day it be what dom true leaving

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02:32:28,159 --> 02:32:35,639
I okeeve me for on this comas.

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02:32:36,479 --> 02:32:43,280
Speaker 3: Man, I got some day I'm gonna miss this day.

2359
02:32:45,879 --> 02:32:49,799
Speaker 40: I know someday I'm gonna miss It's.

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02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:57,879
Speaker 37: So I'm living on home and excite me for each

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02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:59,719
day as it comes.

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02:33:00,200 --> 02:33:02,879
Speaker 26: Keep showing up for the journey.

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02:33:05,319 --> 02:33:09,319
Speaker 40: A HiPE is full of uncertainty.

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02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:15,680
Speaker 31: All I wanta do some kiddy.

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02:33:17,319 --> 02:33:23,719
Speaker 37: Because I'm sure someday I'm gonna miss these days. I

2366
02:33:24,040 --> 02:33:33,000
know someday I'm gonna miss days day. Yeah, you know,

2367
02:33:33,319 --> 02:33:37,040
someday we're gonna miss this day.

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02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:49,639
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you. Katie Dobbins live in studio

2369
02:33:49,719 --> 02:33:52,680
with us, and that was great. So that's another new one.

2370
02:33:52,799 --> 02:33:56,920
Huh yeah, very cool, very cool. By the way, So

2371
02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:59,639
you're getting some love here in the chat room. Eric

2372
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:02,799
and Power also known as Temple Mountain. He's been on

2373
02:34:02,840 --> 02:34:05,639
the show a few times now. He says Katie is

2374
02:34:05,760 --> 02:34:10,760
the best, So glad her name uh spells Katie with

2375
02:34:10,879 --> 02:34:13,120
a K and not with a G. I don't know

2376
02:34:13,159 --> 02:34:14,440
if there's an inside joke there.

2377
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't.

2378
02:34:15,559 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't get it. To ask him, yeah, I don't.

2379
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:21,239
I don't quite get it, but uh yes, I'm I'm

2380
02:34:21,239 --> 02:34:23,479
also glad you spell Katie with a K and not

2381
02:34:23,600 --> 02:34:24,399
a G. Me too.

2382
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 14: Hey, Eric, thanks for tuning in.

2383
02:34:27,639 --> 02:34:28,200
Speaker 1: He's amazing.

2384
02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:31,799
Speaker 14: He's amazing, awesome, super supportive too, like super supportive of

2385
02:34:32,639 --> 02:34:35,719
you know, other musicians, ands and radio and he's just

2386
02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:38,520
like always good, positive energy.

2387
02:34:38,799 --> 02:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. Yeah. He sends people to us, Oh yeah,

2388
02:34:41,959 --> 02:34:43,840
oh yeah. Yeah. He's referred a bunch of really good,

2389
02:34:43,959 --> 02:34:47,639
really good musicians to us. Also, good morning to Miriam

2390
02:34:47,639 --> 02:34:52,079
who's in the chat room, and Rob Diyon who halts

2391
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:53,879
to show here through the stage door. He's part of

2392
02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:56,239
the W M and H family. He said, I'm heading

2393
02:34:56,319 --> 02:34:57,719
to a gig right now, but I just wanted to

2394
02:34:57,760 --> 02:34:59,840
say Matt that the musicians you have on this morning

2395
02:35:00,079 --> 02:35:03,440
really are amazing, very good, very good.

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02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:04,280
Speaker 14: It's so nice.

2397
02:35:04,360 --> 02:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Thanks absolutely so, Katie, what do you have this weekend?

2398
02:35:07,319 --> 02:35:08,280
Do you have shows this weekend?

2399
02:35:09,479 --> 02:35:11,840
Speaker 14: Actually don't. I have a kind of a quiet weekend,

2400
02:35:11,879 --> 02:35:15,000
which I'm very excited about. After I leave here today,

2401
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:17,879
I'm gonna head over to hang out with Chris Noise.

2402
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:20,760
The basis we're gonna do some practice in for our

2403
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:24,399
gig at Strawberry Bank later this month. Yeah, and then

2404
02:35:24,760 --> 02:35:27,000
I do I'm part of I sing at my church,

2405
02:35:27,079 --> 02:35:29,079
which meets on top of a mountain on Sunday morning,

2406
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:31,280
So tomorrow I'll be hike into that and doing that

2407
02:35:31,360 --> 02:35:34,479
whole thing up at Gunstock Mountain. But other than that,

2408
02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:38,040
my weekend's pretty quiet, and I've been very much on

2409
02:35:38,159 --> 02:35:40,639
the go lately. I just got back two weeks ago

2410
02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:45,559
from my first solo road trip tour down to Nashville, Tennessee.

2411
02:35:46,559 --> 02:35:48,159
I was gone for a week and a half and

2412
02:35:48,680 --> 02:35:51,680
I didn't really plan any transition time before or after

2413
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:53,879
the trip. I just said, I was like, yeah, I'll

2414
02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:57,479
just like keep going one hundred miles an hour right

2415
02:35:57,600 --> 02:35:58,920
up to it, and then I'll just come back and

2416
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:01,239
get right in the swing of So I'm definitely feeling

2417
02:36:01,319 --> 02:36:02,760
the effects of that a little bit.

2418
02:36:02,959 --> 02:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

2419
02:36:03,719 --> 02:36:05,600
Speaker 14: So I'm kind of happy to have a quiet weekend

2420
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:08,879
and then things will pick up. I have shows next week.

2421
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:12,000
On Wednesday, I'm in Portsmouth, and then Thursday I have

2422
02:36:12,159 --> 02:36:14,879
a cool I'm hosting a touring artist at hermit Wood's

2423
02:36:14,879 --> 02:36:18,319
Winery in Meredith, New Hampshire. It's a listening room up there,

2424
02:36:18,479 --> 02:36:20,239
So if you're up in the Lakes region or heading

2425
02:36:20,319 --> 02:36:23,040
up that way, come hang out Thursday night and then

2426
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:25,799
I got shows like all weekend, so it'll be a

2427
02:36:25,879 --> 02:36:27,920
nice little break leading into that.

2428
02:36:28,719 --> 02:36:31,000
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. How was your trip to Nashville?

2429
02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:36,159
Speaker 14: It was awesome. Yeah, it was there. You know, I

2430
02:36:37,399 --> 02:36:41,559
felt like I was just really craving a different perspective

2431
02:36:41,719 --> 02:36:45,959
and just being completely immersed in original music and just

2432
02:36:46,079 --> 02:36:49,440
like seeing new people. And I've also been wanting to

2433
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:51,760
plan a little road trip toward in Nashville for a

2434
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:55,479
few years now, but I kept kind of coming up

2435
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:58,159
against some roadblocks and it just didn't felt. I never

2436
02:36:58,319 --> 02:37:00,079
like it when it feels like I'm forcing something and

2437
02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:02,600
it feels like, Okay, maybe this is not the right timing.

2438
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:06,159
So this finally came together in a really great way

2439
02:37:06,399 --> 02:37:09,120
and I was able to do it, and I was

2440
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:11,200
down there for I was in I played a show

2441
02:37:11,239 --> 02:37:13,319
in West Virginia on my way down and stayed with

2442
02:37:13,399 --> 02:37:16,120
some friends, which was awesome, and then I was in

2443
02:37:16,280 --> 02:37:19,959
Nashville for seven full days and I played almost every

2444
02:37:20,040 --> 02:37:21,920
night that I was there. I had one or two

2445
02:37:22,040 --> 02:37:25,200
writers round, so it was like I just met so

2446
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:27,399
many songwriters and I got to you get to hear them,

2447
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:29,159
because when you're playing a writer's round. You know, you

2448
02:37:29,239 --> 02:37:30,680
play a little bit, and then you also get to

2449
02:37:30,719 --> 02:37:33,799
hear like three other people playing in the round, and

2450
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:37,360
so it was very inspiring. And it's just so it

2451
02:37:37,799 --> 02:37:40,799
fills your cup and inspires you to like be reminded.

2452
02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,399
Oh yeah, there's so many people doing this and doing

2453
02:37:43,479 --> 02:37:47,479
it you know successfully, and I just I And I

2454
02:37:47,559 --> 02:37:50,319
also it's humbling. I left feeling like, yeah, I got

2455
02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:52,760
to get better and to keep writing, you know, which

2456
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:54,360
is what kind of the kick in the butt that

2457
02:37:54,399 --> 02:37:55,000
I wanted.

2458
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:59,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was great. Yeah that's pressure. Yeah in Nashville. Yeah, absolutely, No,

2459
02:38:00,280 --> 02:38:01,879
Well that's very cool. Yeah, that's very cool.

2460
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:05,399
Speaker 14: Yeah, it scratched the itch for touring too. I'm like, yeah,

2461
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:07,959
let's get on the row. Let's go. I mean, I

2462
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:09,959
mean being a musician. I know, I talked about the

2463
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:12,040
hardships of doing it full time and stuff, but part

2464
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:14,159
of the reason I initially wanted to do it full

2465
02:38:14,200 --> 02:38:17,040
time was well, I was just so hungry to do it,

2466
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:19,280
and I was like, if I don't try this, I'll

2467
02:38:19,360 --> 02:38:22,360
never know if I could have made it happen, you know.

2468
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:23,280
Speaker 1: So I just had to do it.

2469
02:38:23,399 --> 02:38:26,120
Speaker 14: And part of it was I wanted to do touring

2470
02:38:26,319 --> 02:38:28,680
which I really am just kind of dipping my toe

2471
02:38:28,760 --> 02:38:31,000
into at least beyond New England. I play all over

2472
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:34,120
New England, but I wanted to do more touring, and

2473
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:36,559
that's hard to do when you have a set work schedule.

2474
02:38:36,639 --> 02:38:39,319
I was teaching, so oh yeah, you know, it's kind

2475
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:41,879
of hard to tour when you need to be in

2476
02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:44,959
the classroom. So I that was part of what I

2477
02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:47,280
wanted to do. So I'm kind of now just starting

2478
02:38:47,319 --> 02:38:49,319
to be like, Okay, what how can this look? And

2479
02:38:49,639 --> 02:38:52,440
how exciting to think of? Wow, I could actually go

2480
02:38:52,559 --> 02:38:55,079
travel to places and see different places around the country

2481
02:38:55,159 --> 02:38:57,479
and play music doing it, you know, I mean that's

2482
02:38:57,520 --> 02:38:59,000
pretty that's pretty sick.

2483
02:38:59,280 --> 02:38:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2484
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever miss teaching or I mean,

2485
02:39:03,399 --> 02:39:04,360
I mean, I'm sure I'm sure you.

2486
02:39:04,360 --> 02:39:07,879
Speaker 14: Miss if any of my old students are listening so much.

2487
02:39:09,159 --> 02:39:11,319
I did love teaching, I really did. I really did.

2488
02:39:11,399 --> 02:39:14,959
But I have to say it was the right decision. Yeah,

2489
02:39:15,120 --> 02:39:20,440
I have never I've never felt like the desire to

2490
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:21,479
go back to teaching.

2491
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2492
02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:24,479
Speaker 14: I think that it was really really good for the time.

2493
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:27,920
You know, it was a good a good season. I

2494
02:39:28,079 --> 02:39:30,159
learned a lot and there's actually, weirdly a lot of

2495
02:39:30,239 --> 02:39:33,479
overlap between managing a classroom and managing your business and

2496
02:39:33,600 --> 02:39:37,319
also like teaching, standing in front of a class, teaching

2497
02:39:37,360 --> 02:39:41,120
and engaging students, and also performing on stage and engaging

2498
02:39:41,159 --> 02:39:44,840
an audience. It's weirdly similar. So like I'm very very

2499
02:39:44,879 --> 02:39:45,840
grateful for my teaching.

2500
02:39:46,040 --> 02:39:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah, that totally makes sense.

2501
02:39:49,600 --> 02:39:51,159
You ever hear from any of your students who have

2502
02:39:51,239 --> 02:39:53,680
followed your your music career, so.

2503
02:39:53,879 --> 02:39:56,239
Speaker 14: They some of them do follow me in you know,

2504
02:39:56,360 --> 02:39:59,000
social media, and they'll like like a post. And I

2505
02:39:59,079 --> 02:40:01,559
have a student who will sometimes come when I play

2506
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:03,760
in Massachusetts. He'll come sometimes come to my showes, which

2507
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:04,520
is always really fun.

2508
02:40:04,799 --> 02:40:08,760
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's very cool. Yeah, yeah, that's excellent. Well,

2509
02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:11,559
so we will begin to wrap up in a moment,

2510
02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:15,079
but we'll probably play studio track.

2511
02:40:16,079 --> 02:40:20,959
Speaker 14: Whoops, I knew that was coming. It's usually me so

2512
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:21,399
thank you.

2513
02:40:22,600 --> 02:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Jenny and I are both clutches, so where the last

2514
02:40:24,959 --> 02:40:28,040
people will ever judge you for dropping something.

2515
02:40:28,399 --> 02:40:30,520
Speaker 39: Almost hold onto anything for two days.

2516
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:31,920
Speaker 3: Lately, I feel like.

2517
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:34,360
Speaker 14: My clumsiness is getting worse, and it might just be

2518
02:40:34,559 --> 02:40:36,840
the like I said, the aftermaths of the trip and

2519
02:40:36,920 --> 02:40:39,079
not planning enough time to transition.

2520
02:40:38,920 --> 02:40:40,239
Speaker 31: To blame it on the humidity week.

2521
02:40:40,479 --> 02:40:42,639
Speaker 14: Maybe it's just you know, yeah, it got to us.

2522
02:40:42,840 --> 02:40:43,600
Speaker 15: That's problem.

2523
02:40:43,719 --> 02:40:46,639
Speaker 14: I am actually writing a song. It's like, well, I

2524
02:40:46,840 --> 02:40:47,920
only have this so far.

2525
02:40:48,920 --> 02:40:52,200
Speaker 40: It's like I can be little clumsy, chipping over my

2526
02:40:52,280 --> 02:40:53,040
own two feet.

2527
02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:56,799
Speaker 37: People think I'm funny, but I'm just trying to get

2528
02:40:57,079 --> 02:41:03,319
uh yeah, a little something something. But the clusiest thing

2529
02:41:03,600 --> 02:41:06,040
that I ever did was falling.

2530
02:41:06,159 --> 02:41:06,600
Speaker 9: For you.

2531
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:13,840
Speaker 14: To hear it, maybe you can help me write the rest.

2532
02:41:16,079 --> 02:41:16,440
Speaker 1: There you go?

2533
02:41:17,559 --> 02:41:17,799
Speaker 12: Cool?

2534
02:41:18,239 --> 02:41:20,959
Speaker 1: What what what should we play to close the show?

2535
02:41:21,079 --> 02:41:22,719
What's a studio track we should play?

2536
02:41:23,000 --> 02:41:25,600
Speaker 14: Either just because I can or Grateful depends if you

2537
02:41:25,639 --> 02:41:27,959
want to play like a rocker track or a dreamy

2538
02:41:28,159 --> 02:41:29,200
grateful track.

2539
02:41:29,479 --> 02:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Was Grateful the one that you said had some of

2540
02:41:31,239 --> 02:41:32,600
your electric guitar playing in it.

2541
02:41:32,760 --> 02:41:35,479
Speaker 14: No, I don't think you have that song. I don't

2542
02:41:35,479 --> 02:41:37,879
know if I ever sent that. Well, it's called Starlights.

2543
02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:42,280
That was the one I recorded entirely in my home studio.

2544
02:41:42,319 --> 02:41:43,280
I don't know if you have that one.

2545
02:41:43,559 --> 02:41:47,079
Speaker 1: It is because if it's online, I can find it.

2546
02:41:47,559 --> 02:41:48,040
I found it.

2547
02:41:48,159 --> 02:41:50,040
Speaker 14: Okay, And now people in the comments can tell me

2548
02:41:50,120 --> 02:41:52,200
what they think of this was. This was before I

2549
02:41:52,239 --> 02:41:57,159
even had logic pro I produced this on Oh was

2550
02:41:57,200 --> 02:41:58,000
it garage band?

2551
02:41:59,440 --> 02:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Might have been like, this will be very interesting, Okay, cool,

2552
02:42:08,319 --> 02:42:11,440
cool and uh. And before we wrap up to Jenny,

2553
02:42:11,479 --> 02:42:14,440
you want to mention the what's happening today the virtual event.

2554
02:42:14,840 --> 02:42:19,520
Speaker 39: Yes, today is the sixth annual Virtual Walk to support

2555
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,559
and raise awareness for c RPS Complex Regional pain syndrome.

2556
02:42:23,879 --> 02:42:26,079
You can find out more information at r s d

2557
02:42:26,520 --> 02:42:29,520
S dot org. R s d S dot org is

2558
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:34,479
the Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophe Association, which is what the disease

2559
02:42:34,639 --> 02:42:36,280
used to be called. So if you want to find

2560
02:42:36,319 --> 02:42:38,959
out more about complex VIE your pain syndrome, if you

2561
02:42:39,040 --> 02:42:41,639
want to help us and donate to the walk, all

2562
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:44,479
the money and proceeds goes to help with awareness and

2563
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:46,760
helping folks out there that have it, both young and oult.

2564
02:42:47,120 --> 02:42:50,680
So check out r s d S dot org and

2565
02:42:50,760 --> 02:42:53,040
for more information on me, go to Gencoffee dot com.

2566
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:55,200
Speaker 31: J E N N c O F f u I

2567
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dot com.

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good, And of course if you missed

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any part of today's show, it'll be up in just

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a little bit at w m hradio dot org and

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on my website. Matt connorton dot com and Katie Doobbins.

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Thank you again so much. Always nice to see you.

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Speaker 14: Thank you so much for doing this and supporting so

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many local artists, not just oh you supported me from

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like the early days, and I appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, well, well, well we appreciate you. Oh did

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we mention your website?

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 1: It's Katieobbins Music dot com.

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Speaker 31: Is That's right?

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Speaker 1: Everything is there? Absolutely and uh here's a so. This

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track features Katie on the electric guitar. Check this out.

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This is called Starlights.

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Speaker 26: When night stor and quite.

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Speaker 37: I you smiling your U remind me, boy, you're still shining.

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Speaker 26: No matter where life takes us will be fine.

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Speaker 3: Because your start.

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Speaker 10: Shot from the side. He flight.

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Speaker 26: My starlight.

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Speaker 7: When my.

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Speaker 37: Is doomed and fading. You speak to my heart, reminding

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me laid.

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Speaker 3: Even a litle bit of lid can.

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Speaker 26: Be enough to lie after.

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Speaker 10: We are shine from the side, be both to. It's

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a lot.

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Speaker 26: Starlight, starlight.

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Speaker 40: To cover all your hungry hearts.

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Speaker 31: Let's come alive tonight.

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Speaker 3: Oh we need a lot alone and fiddle be alive.

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Speaker 10: I get a whole lot, rider away and I feel

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your hands in mind.

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Speaker 31: Join us see me, help me.

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Speaker 40: Starting all us kit shine.

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Speaker 3: We are stop shinte from the inside. We felt.

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Speaker 26: We starlight, starlight, we starlight starlight, we starlight