Speaker 1: And we are bad.
Speaker 2: I had to play the credit role. Try Billy get
you some time.
Speaker 3: I like it, Like, yeah, I was adding my ad
break down there. So where do you want to start?
There's two big juicy things with Star Wars. Here there's
a casting and then we have a potential change of
the hierarchy. Then the hierarchy is about to change this
some might say, so what do you want to start with?
Speaker 2: Let's start there.
Speaker 4: Let's start with the hierarchy at the very tip top,
the emperors of the Lucasfilm universe and potentially two emperor's
rule of two in the head chair to the two
which I believe the one that isn't a surprise to
probably anyone, Dave Filoni being a big name that's thrown
around with it, and the other name Carrie Beck, who
I had to do some google and I apologize, miss
Carrie Beck. I did not know who you are before.
And but no, if I read this correctly, it says
Dave Filoni and carried back front runners potential front runners
to replace Kathleen Kennedy at Lucasfilm as co heads of studios.
So I obviously know who Dave Filoni is and I
gave a quick, little five minute look into carry Beck's
kind of projects that she's been attached to, And you're
gonna have to help me out here because I'm I
feel like I'm not like taking a step back on
the Star Wars stuff. I'm definitely in there for all
the content, but just in terms of like who's pulling
the strings, especially because I haven't really like I haven't
seen all of a Soak well, I haven't seen any
of a Soca.
Speaker 1: But and you might be.
Speaker 4: Excited to hear this, I actually started going in to
Clone Wars. I'm giving Clone Wars another shot. I didn't
like Restart where I was like, I just picked up
on I think I'm on season two maybe three, so
like I'm a little ways away.
Speaker 2: It's a little low priority show.
Speaker 4: But I just want to get informed on the juice,
especially in the later seasons, and then I want to
transition to like hopefully Rebel bad Batch, whatever good whatever
is the good content, I'm open for it. I've kind
of been diving deep into Star Wars stuff ever since
and Or and then of course playing Battlefront two. It's
just been Star Wars is h It's been high in
my brain, so it's gonna be fun talking about this
right now. But getting back to what I was saying
in terms of like who these heads are and kind
of the projects at least Carryback's.
Speaker 2: Been a part of.
Speaker 4: My initial reaction is a little bit in the negative side.
And the main reason is I feel like both Dave
Filoni and carry Beck and I might need your help here,
but like it seems like they kind of are very
similar in kind of the projects that they've been a
part of and like their mindset. And I don't know,
this is completely service level. I just found who Cary
Beck was like an hour ago. But uh so, maybe
it's it's it's unfair for me to put that on her,
But I just feel like having two people that think
like very very similar personally, I would like it to
be like two individuals that are like very different on
like not the creative side, but just the stuff that
they've done. So then it's like, okay, they can pick
and pull from like two different aspects of telling Star
Wars stories. But if it's just they're both very much
into the like like lean into like the cannon lower
stuff or what's a better way to phrase that, like
the like the fan service stuff, and I don't know
if that's a fair judgment. I feel like I put
that more on Dave Filoni just because I know more
about him, but because carry back.
Speaker 2: Let's let's just list off a couple of things in here.
Speaker 4: It was the bad Batch Tales the Jedi, which I
did really enjoy, and then uh ahsoka, like the live
action one, right?
Speaker 1: Is that is that? It?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Just the three? Okay, that's all I found too? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there she Yeah, I guess Rebels and bad
Batch and Forces of Destiny co created Star Wars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like like Tales of Jedi, I feel like
are the most different out of all those. And I
haven't seen again, I haven't seen bad Batch orh Sosoca,
So you're gonna have to viear me in the right
direct way. Yeah, if I'm completely in the wrong category here,
but in my mind, those just feel like felony projects.
I don't know if it's a fair so I'm sure
or not. And again, everything I'm saying is big asterisk
because I I aren't very familiar with this, but I
would have just been a little bit more excited I
think to see Yeah, like like definitely, I think two
names is a good way to go about it seems
like it's working over in DC with Peter Saffron and
James Gun over there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I I.
Speaker 4: Don't want just two very similar creatives that are like
just stroking each other's.
Speaker 1: Stroking each other's ego. Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 2: You kick me.
Speaker 1: I my hand was off and like our background changed.
Speaker 2: Okay, traps in here, something around.
Speaker 4: Us.
Speaker 1: He's outside too.
Speaker 5: I am you know why, I'm doing your work and
I enjoy it. Oh, tune some Weekly Geek and stuff
like that. I'm not here for long. I get the
bad mic. Literally, I'm listening to you guys. I don't
wanna wait because I was like, I was four minutes behind.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid for this episode. I'm doing this.
Speaker 5: For the goodness of the Geek first listeners, because there's
so many times i'd give these two fuckers bullet points.
I'm not and at least still I can trust to
keep you guys on the line.
Speaker 1: Be on the line.
Speaker 5: You guys are like like, oh, I think that's everything. Yeah,
we talked about all the coats and currently all those
lots of quotes, and then continue to move on what's
the title of this episode.
Speaker 1: It's Wonderman d in the works. Yeah, we talked about it,
we dressed it. No, No, there's there's more to that title.
Speaker 2: The Batman Sequel updates.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's one thing, you man, you not once
talked about. That's not what he was talking about. That's
not the quote he was talking about. He was talking
about that he's working on a project that is a sequel,
but not a direct sequel to Superman.
Speaker 1: And maybe just a super Girl.
Speaker 5: But no, I thought maybe that would cause some discussion,
some debates. Oh, welcome this easy part of the Batman
Is that just like whatever? But no, just skip over
the full what for folks listening, wonder Woman DCU film
in the works, Superman and the Batman Sequel updates Superman
the biggest movie potential of the summer coming out in a.
Speaker 1: Few weeks, and you skip over.
Speaker 5: Now, when we publish this episode, you take Superman out
of that.
Speaker 1: I had to come in here.
Speaker 5: And say, what you did?
Speaker 1: Why is Pablo? Why are both why.
Speaker 5: It's happening to the inside of this.
Speaker 1: You know what I did the job. Something I'm gonna
this is they are going out of their way to
fuck me. Basically, well, I'm trying.
Speaker 5: We're on our way to ten years and they're fucking
us over big time.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Good's.
Speaker 5: I will say in the stream fu Yeah, I mean
on the stream, I'm gonna call down until we got
to record a weekly right now.
Speaker 1: Sat there you go.
Speaker 4: People, you just got a glimpse on how we're treated.
That's how Travis speaks to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: For you guys that listen, you're like, oh, I love
this content. I gotta keep these two fucking together.
Speaker 1: Come good day to do yard work.
Speaker 5: Also, also, Kirkly, when you brought up the stone thing,
that's exactly what I thought. I was gonna text you
guys about to give me the stone and literally you.
Speaker 1: Hit this out.
Speaker 5: So good job on that.
Speaker 1: But the rest of the same Yeah something, Yeah, I
told you. I knew he was. I wasn't expecting that, but.
Speaker 2: I thought we got everything too. I was like, oh, yeah,
we're too m this is our show now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totow away from the top corner. Just feel abused now.
Speaker 1: So where were you? What were you talking about before?
Speaker 2: Yes, I was stroking egos. That's what I was saying.
Speaker 4: Is sounded a little bit extreme hyperbole, but like just
the idea of like Dave Filoni having certain idea for
Star Wars stuff that he really likes, and then me
simply judging the carryback projects for what I've seen her
actually do. I haven't seen the projects, but what I've
seen her do it just seems very in line with that.
So I think I just would have been a lot
more excited if it's someone like one of the like
like the and Or people, or you know, something that's
like very different type of Star Wars content that we've seen.
Speaker 2: Pair it up with someone like Filoni.
Speaker 4: And then they can go butt heads and then and
then try and get just a good variety of of
Star Wars content because there's so much good stuff to
unleash there. But maybe the goal is to find someone
that's very like my because there's no issues, and then
it's just like, well, we can just focus on this
type of content. This is going to be the new
era of Star Wars for us. And I don't love
that idea, but who knows, maybe it'll come out and
I'll absolutely love it. I don't want to judge a
book until I read it. I don't want to judge
by the cover. I forgot the quote there for a second,
but yeah, I don't know, and then like just thinking
of who would be a better pairing, Like, I have
no idea.
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea for this.
Speaker 4: I like Dave filoni One, I like and not like
some of the stuff that he's done in the Star
Wars universe. But I just feel like it's a fit
that makes sense. But just because he's been such an
integral piece for Lucasfilm in the last how many years. Yeah,
there you go, Phil, there you go, super Bad Mike.
Imagine putting Filony and Gilroy in a room together and
they can only leave after they write a script.
Speaker 2: See, I want that. I want that pain.
Speaker 4: They're get paid so much money, they can fucking hash
it out and get us some good scope of content.
We're gonna be seen at the end of the day. Though,
I also just want Star Wars movies back in theaters
because that feels like it's been just like a strike
in and of itself, of just you'll never see another
Star Wars movie until the strike is over, and it's
been going on for a long time, hasn't actually been
a strike. That's just how it feels because we've been
severely lacking cinema, big screen star Wars contents to you.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I feel like, let's circle back.
Speaker 3: Let's circle back the idea of putting them both in
a room together, if you like, you know, if you
lock that door and check on them after twelve hours,
one of them would be dead.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3: I think I think the idea then working on a
project together is is massive. That should be something that
should be Like they stoke that fire, sook that fire, Disney.
You know, good leaders, they make their their subordinates, you know,
rise up and they build off their strengths or whatever
that being said, I think the two of these fine folks,
Beck and Felony to be put into this position. I
used to think that the point in time that I like,
I was all for Filony, I was thinking, yeah, get
Floony in there. Flony speaks to me, He's another level.
I'm all, I'm all for it absolutely. And then after
what we saw with and Or season two, and then
hearing a lot of people get really upset about Filoni
to scored for so many years, it's kind of opened
my eyes that I don't think there's a place just
for the kind of and or esthetic. I think that
we don't need only Star Wars content that is just that,
even though it's good, it's dark and it's gritty, and
I think we could tack that or take that and
you could put it into a variety of the projects.
But I think there's also some room for what Filoni
brings to the table, and not everything Filoni brings to
the table is good. A lot of it is definitely
enduring to get through. But he's an individual that I
feel like, okay, like his storytelling and the way that
he's trying to introduce things and keep things really connected,
because I feel like he is very big on the
cannon and to keep something like that tied in is
a little tricky, and it's hard to kind of always
stand by the cannon when it comes to Star Wars
because it does get frustrating if you're a cannon junkie.
I'm not as much as I used to be back then,
and I don't even know if I ever was back
in the day, because there's always legends, and you know,
you have your main Star Wars story, but you can
talk about, oh yeah, well, Han Solo and Chebacca, we're
on in an imperial prison ship and they were rescued
because there was a start astorre that had like a
virus breakout and the infected spread and stuff, and they
became like zombies because of imperial experiments and stuff with reincarnation.
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: That's all legends and it's fun to look at it
that way, But nowadays, I think with Filoni really trying
to push forward his ideas and his narrative, it conflicts
with other narratives that are trying to be told while
he's trying to also make sure that things are.
Speaker 1: Connected and build off each other.
Speaker 3: Like I just worry about how the quality is going
to be delivered when you're trying so hard to just
make sure things intertwine and fit, and then you hit
major issues like hey, okay Ako came out, Accolade had.
Speaker 1: Some severe problems.
Speaker 3: But now all of a sudden, they dump Plague us
in there at the end of the final episode, and
we're not going to get to see him in another
follow up live action project, and it's like, well, fuck me,
that would have been the coolest thing ever to see
something like that. But again, there's them trying to just
create a story and go so story heavy with all
these different things with the High Republic and YadA, YadA YadA,
that it's compromising the quality of that show, and that
show should have been much better than what we got.
And it's really really unfortunate because now the higher ups
and everyone, they're just they're freaking out like, okay, well
we can't touch that. And then it just feel like
you're gonna get a conflict of interest when you have
someone like Gilroy when they've done such an amazing job
with and Or, and then you have someone like Filoni
who's not a big fan of and Or, and so
then you have that problem arising there, which means, Okay,
if Feloni gets in, you're not gonna be getting a
lot any more content that's like and Or. They're gonna
be steering away from that, which again is a shame.
When you look at Skeleton Crew, you look at a
SOSCA and then you look at h what's another one?
Maybe not Obi one because we want to pretty dark,
but Mando and book Abb with fet all those they
share a very similar aesthetic to each other, and it
feels like it's just got a colorful tone to it.
While it does have its dark moments. It still feels
like it has that colorful tone and then when you
watch and Or it just feels gretty dark and depressing
and hitting some very intense story narrative beats. And like
I said at the start, I think there's a place
for both of that in Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I really really do.
Speaker 3: So whether or not Filoni and Beck can do it,
because you're right, Beck has a very similar portfolio to Filoni.
They're working on some of the same projects.
Speaker 1: But Tales of.
Speaker 3: Spinoff has been pretty awesome and the bad Batch totally
caught me off guard. That was fantastic. Clone War season
seven was fucking fantastic. Really really loved it. So they
have made some significant improvements. And I'm a huge fan
of the Ahsoka show. I thought that was really really
bang on awesome, but it's very very different. Yeah, I
don't know if I'm making any sense, Like, at the
end of the day, do I want it? I'm apprehensive,
I really really am. But I think what Disney ces
is two people that have a history and a portfolio
shared amongst themselves with each other, that they've they've got
that chemistry with one another. So let's implement a position
of leadership and they can really run with it. But
I'm scared of what they're going to run with. You know,
I'm there for Manduin Grogu, I'm there for a Soca
season two, But what do you do after the fact, Like,
are you just gonna give us Darth Maul animated series
season two? Are you gonna give us like more animated projects?
Because that's what Dave Floony is all about. And I
don't blame them, that's it's a mo but I would like,
like you said, more consistent live action movies on the
big screen. We've got movie theaters and we've got a
company that is dumping money into this IP, so let's
make it happen, which hepe We're getting Starfighter, which I
guess that can segue us into our next topic, unless
there's anything else you wanted to add.
Speaker 2: I think just the last thing I'll say is.
Speaker 4: Like, like, seeing these names on there, it's just like, okay, yeah,
that I guess that makes sense. It's not something that
gets me super excited. It just seems like a safe option,
and I don't think that's really the best thing for
Star Wars right now. Like I feel like ever since
kind of Episode seven, like it's been very safe overall.
For like I thought Acolyte was gonna be the big
jump into something that's very different than what we've seen before,
but it ended up just kind of being in that
same caliber of content that we've been seeing, especially for
the Star Wars shows, and Or is the biggest exception
about that, but like I mean, go check out those reviews,
like we kind of talk about why that is, which
is the you like Tony Gilroy and team.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, I'm I'm I'm I'm mixed, but like I
feel like getting these parings in here, I'm gonna have
very low expectations for like crazy the announcements for new
projects like particularly going to maybe different eras or just
tackling different types of Star Wars stories. Like like when
I see these two names, I'm not like, hey, I'm
gonna be getting my my sith Lord coverage now, Like no,
no way, Uh do I think that we're gonna be
going there, But who knows, Maybe I'm gonna be completely wrong.
And then in two or three years after we've had
these new these new leaders, I'm just gonna be uh
you know, just praising them, but I don't know. I
kind of have low hopes that I will get there,
but definitely want to be optimistic.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so I can't do a good mea Goth
voice like mister Snell can.
Speaker 1: Do you have a mea Goth voice? Definitely?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: No, you have me there, It's like he's gonna do it.
Speaker 2: That is where Traves needs to stop mon Is Lawn
and get in here. Just have a quote, like a
video clip of her, but we should get maybe there'd
be me.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of me, I got. She is casted as
the female villain in the Star Wars film star Fighter.
I believe it was a star Fighter. I believe that's
the same one that Mikey Madison had turned down due
to money, money, money money.
Speaker 6: So she's Mikey Madison, mike Madison, just mike weird Mikey
like spelt the same as the Ninja Turtle, Mikey Mikey Madison.
Speaker 4: I feel like I've just never pronounced her last name
like Madison, like Madison.
Speaker 2: I digress Mikey Madison, you got Madison.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm trying to recollect what oh, because
there were earlier on. We got a lot of.
Speaker 3: Revelations, I want to say, or maybe it was just
rumors regarding Starfighter. Let me see here, because we know
the Ryan Reynolds or sorry, Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's said on the story set about five
years after the Rise of Skywalker, Ryan Gosling is leading
the cast as a brand new character, and then get
Me at Gods is playing the villain opposite of him,
and it's being.
Speaker 1: Directed by Sean Levy.
Speaker 3: It's slated for twenty twenty seven release.
Speaker 1: That's coming from the Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 3: But there was another thing going on here, but I
can't recall what it was, because there's a casting for
a younger individual who's going to be in here. And
I think there's speculation too that there's gonna be like
a Jedi in here with Ryan Gosling, and Ryan Gosling
was gonna be a Jedi.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: A lot of this is all just like hit or miss,
just discussions and whatnot. I don't think Ryan Gosling will
be a Jedi, considering the fact that it's five years
after Rise of Skywalker and raised the last Jedi at
this point. But that's just me unless broom kid all
got all grown up. But he's a broom kid, So
I think the young kid is gonna be the Jedi
and maybe like one of Ray's apprentices or something like that.
And I think this is gonna tie more into the
Ray story. Then we will see by getting that Rain movie. Well,
I don't think that Rain movie is ever gonna come
out now. I feel like that's kind of been pushed
back now in lieu of these other projects that have a.
Speaker 4: Title or it was just like a Star Wars project,
just like the Ray project or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
I definitely don't think Goslyn's gonna be the Jedi user.
I just think the plays to make them basically like
a scoundrel type character, and if you're not doing that,
you're it just seems like a poor casting choice. But
who knows, maybe you're gonna get it. He's just like
CGI the whole time. He's like a big monster. We
never actually see his Uh. I don't think it's gonna
be the route because you're not paying Ryan Gosling to
be hidden, you know, you want to show that face
on the screens. So yeah, I mean it's so far out. Again,
I'm in this era of just not believing Star Wars
films are even going to be a thing, So it's like, ah,
we'll see if this actually comes out when it gets
closer to it. Mia Goth, I think she's fantastic in
everything I've seen her in. I think she's been a
standout performer. So definitely cool. Absolutely no ideas on what
type of character she could play, but I would.
Speaker 2: Like to see her.
Speaker 4: Like, like looking like a Star Wars alien type character,
but not just like covered in cgi, like just just
give her like a cool design and really let her
chew up the scenery with because yeah, she's just very
powerful presence on screen. And her in a villain role.
I mean, my favorite performance from her is probably the
character of Pearl, and that's a villain, so I think
she can definitely fit that that niche really well. And yeah,
I don't know, it's just it's a cool pairing. I
feel like it fits so much more than the Mikey
Madison pairing, like in my mind, but that's only because
I just have the one project I think to really
judge like Mikey Matt Well. Actually know, it's a lot
because she was in Once Upon Time in Hollywood, and
I keep forgetting that she's she's in that.
Speaker 2: You you still not seen that movie.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Taylor Field, that's insanod that's insane. That
should have been like my retro pick, just just to
make you watch it. The final sequence is insane, So
you should definitely throw that on there.
Speaker 2: She's she's fantastic. But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I like Mia goth More in this role,
even though I don't know what the role is, just
in the Star Wars universe across from a Ryan Gosling,
who I imagine would be our hero of the story.
But yeah, what's up. I'm excited by this if it happens.
So I guess not very excited.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, she's not busy doing the Blade movie
right now, so it makes sense di is just kind
of move her over to something like this. That's that
is in the works.
Speaker 2: So is gonna be in here too.
Speaker 4: They're like, we don't have Blade, we're never gonna make
the Blade movie, but you can be the part of
the Star.
Speaker 2: Wars broom kid.
Speaker 1: They were probably we can make them.
Speaker 3: Man. They were probably signing up the writing up the contract,
ready to give it to them, and then Universal Studios
just fucking put their water cash down, like hey dinosaurs,
let's fucking go.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, they're not putting me on this
Blade project, so let's do it. He grabbed his spiking.
Holy shit.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think, uh yeah, me a goth being
a villain. I think that fits. That really really does
h It would be a shame if they, like I
hope they make her like a Twilight or something like that,
something super cool. It would be horrible if they just
like used her voice and made her like a hot
character or something like that, like give her like an act,
like make her an alien, like you said, but not
like a CGI alien. Give her the give her the
the chops, you know, just.
Speaker 4: A hut with like like her interview voice, which is
probably her real voice.
Speaker 3: But I think that does it for the Star Wars news.
Is there anything else you wanted to sneak in there?
Speaker 2: Are you talking about some Superman?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I have no more Star Wars star Wars news.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I hope, I hope there's more Star Wars news to
be talking about. And I hope when we do talk
about it. It's not just well that project was canceled
or indefinitely indefinitely, indefinitely, indefinitely definitely. It sounds weird to
me thinking about too much indefinitely delayed. I hope it's
not the case.
Speaker 3: I agree, Well said cool, Well, we're gonna keep this
hot streak going and take another ad break here and
we'll be right back