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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, des are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan Jack and today

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<v Speaker 2>we are getting to know the new Pope here and

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<v Speaker 2>are there any crazy conspiracy synchronicities or let's just try

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out who this guy is at first, and

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe we'll start to delve in a little bit deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a little bit of symbolism. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>wild today. So if you're interested in finding out who

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<v Speaker 2>the new Pope is, what he represents, all about him,

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<v Speaker 2>today is an episode that is dedicated to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're excited indeed, good cult members.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're keeping track of the cult Conspiracy being

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<v Speaker 4>go car for the year twenty twenty five, then you

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<v Speaker 4>know that we got that mark off saying that the

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<v Speaker 4>Pope was going to die Pope Francis rip. Now that

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<v Speaker 4>being said, this previous pope was considered quote unquote, I

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<v Speaker 4>think by his own admission, the people's Pope, right, there's

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<v Speaker 4>some reasons behind that. He kind of took his valve

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<v Speaker 4>poverty a little bit harder than most. He didn't wear

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<v Speaker 4>the giant golden ornate clothing. He actually lived in a

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<v Speaker 4>relatively small like apartment at the Vatican City rather than

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<v Speaker 4>the big, grand, you know, bedchambers that the other ones

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<v Speaker 4>have gone through. He was more modest in his style.

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<v Speaker 4>But he also was seen as the quote unquote people's

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<v Speaker 4>pope because he took a lot of very progressive leanings.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't mean progressive in the same way that

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<v Speaker 4>it's been used in the past. Now, Pope Leo current

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<v Speaker 4>Pope Popolo the thirteenth fourteenth, excuse me. He took the

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<v Speaker 4>name of Pope Leo because the Popolo the thirteenth was

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<v Speaker 4>seen as one of the most progressive popes throughout human history.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that being I said to human I should say

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<v Speaker 4>the history of the Catholic Church not progressive by our

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<v Speaker 4>modern standards. Progressive per the day and age that the

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<v Speaker 4>previous pop Leo was involved with was more embracing science

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<v Speaker 4>as well as embracing the Bible that was seen as

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<v Speaker 4>extremely progressive for the day and age.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so when we.

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<v Speaker 4>Use that term progress of years past, it does not

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<v Speaker 4>mean the same way it does now. Pope Francis was

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<v Speaker 4>very inviting to the LGBTQ, to a element op QRSTUVWXYZ community.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>He also embraced this thing called universalism, which I understand that,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, Jonathan probably does agree with universalism. I do not,

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<v Speaker 4>and most Catholics do not. Universalism, for anybody who doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>is basically saying that you can find God and find

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<v Speaker 4>salvation through multiple different religious avenues. Now, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people agree with this, and I feel like the word

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<v Speaker 4>God and enlightenment get conflated to mean the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>when we talk about universalism. I think it's very possible

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<v Speaker 4>to find enlightenment and morality through all different kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>avenues and ways. But for the head of the Catholic Pope,

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<v Speaker 4>or excuse me, the head of the Catholic Church, the

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<v Speaker 4>Vicar of Rome, to say that there is more than

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<v Speaker 4>one way to get to God, even though within their

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<v Speaker 4>prayer it says we believe in one Holy and Apostolic

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<v Speaker 4>Church and we acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins,

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of is a massive red flag, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead, go ahead, I see your face.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so the whole idea of universalism. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I don't apply to necessarily any religions

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<v Speaker 2>out there, so I think that are you are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Including like all mythologies and shit like that, like not

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<v Speaker 2>just religions. Yeah, okay, then.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not saying that every single one can lead to

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<v Speaker 4>salvation or to God, but he's saying that there is

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<v Speaker 4>definitely more than just Christianity to get to God.

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<v Speaker 2>So and also the idea of enlightenment in God being

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<v Speaker 2>separate things, in my opinion, I would just say that

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<v Speaker 2>enlightenment is probably what happens whenever. It's probably it's like

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you and God are able to infuse and merge

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<v Speaker 2>with each other on a literal like moment to moment basis.

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<v Speaker 2>So like that's like I'm not gonna get too wi

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<v Speaker 2>will hear. But essentially it's like going so inward and finding,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that divine spark within you. That's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why they say namastae. By the way, it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>divine spark within me acknowledges the divine spark within you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not talking to your ego, it's talking to like

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<v Speaker 2>your spark, your soul, your spirit, whatever, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>they believe that by accessing that spark and essentially shedding

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<v Speaker 2>your ego and just merging with that that spark or

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<v Speaker 2>that God or whatever that is enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 4>And I get that, and I'm, like I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that the entire premise behind universalism doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>But this would also equally be like the head emm

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<v Speaker 4>of Islam saying that there is more than one way

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<v Speaker 4>to get to Allah than just Mohammed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is if I'm not mistaken, Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>would be the pope prophecy coming true then, because Francis sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but he died and that's supposed to bring forward a

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<v Speaker 2>new age. That was the idea behind that. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if we get this guy who is more of a universalist,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that be bringing about some sort of new age

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not what previous But I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know all the information about previous popes or

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<v Speaker 2>where they stood or whatever, but I can just imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that they probably would oppose some type of ideology like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>That I would say pretty much every pope up until

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<v Speaker 4>Francis would disavow him for saying such things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's actually a lot of symbolism behind that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to get to that. Oh, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this guy is the first American pope, and I

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<v Speaker 4>know everybody's been hearing that.

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<v Speaker 3>All over the news. He also has dual citizenship.

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<v Speaker 4>With Peru, and for some reason, Peru was over here

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<v Speaker 4>saying first Peruvian pope. Like, first of all, he was

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<v Speaker 4>born in Shyraq. Sit down, No, nobody's talking to you

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<v Speaker 4>Peru right now. Okay, shy Town is having their day

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<v Speaker 4>in the sun. That's what's happening right now. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>at the point he is fluent in five languages.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. He grew up from relatively humble means.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe his parents were upper one percent wealthy,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also don't believe that he grew up poverty stricken.

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<v Speaker 4>Buy any means either upper middle class, I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>from all my research I could find, but I find

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<v Speaker 4>it interesting. And the more research I did on this,

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<v Speaker 4>i'm I may have been a little biased on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So for anybody who doesn't know, I was raised Roman

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<v Speaker 4>Catholic up until I was about twelve to thirteen years old, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and I left the faith in favor of non denominational

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<v Speaker 4>evangelical Christendom.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's how I get down these days. I show

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<v Speaker 4>no I don't throw hatred towards the Catholic faith. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I respect it for a lot of reasons. I just

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<v Speaker 4>disagree with a few things that they do dogmatically and

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<v Speaker 4>a few of their ritualistic things that they get going here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't agree with praying to saints or praying to angels.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that Mary died a virgin because literally

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<v Speaker 4>in the Good Book they talk about Jesus having four

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<v Speaker 4>brothers and two sisters, so like that had to be

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<v Speaker 4>from Mary's you know, blessed womb. All right, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>throwing it out. I'm not trying to be a dick

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<v Speaker 4>about it, but like clearly her and Joseph fucked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But neither hear nor there. Okay, neither hear nor there.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare you and blasphemous? You know they made love

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<v Speaker 2>missionary style?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh actually I can guarantee that much for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know that Jesus had actual half blood brothers

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<v Speaker 4>and like that's but O the point bes to that,

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<v Speaker 4>The point I am not throwing any kind of shade

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<v Speaker 4>towards the Catholic faith. I have pretty much all of

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<v Speaker 4>my family members are still Catholic to this day. Once

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<v Speaker 4>a year, I go on a Catholic men's retreat, as

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of fact, put on by the Jesuits. Now

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean that I like the Jesuit order of

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<v Speaker 4>things and stuff, but the dudes are actually extremely well

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<v Speaker 4>versed and knowledgeable about the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>It just means you're a fed, as people suggest.

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<v Speaker 4>Clearly, clearly. I'm telling y'all. If I'm the fed, Jonathan's

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<v Speaker 4>the handler. That's how this whole dynamic works.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know about that. I always say, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be the worst handler. I can barely hand

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<v Speaker 2>my own damn self.

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<v Speaker 3>So the good cove you got going there, Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's a facade over here. I'm actually brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>I just put off this dumb ass, this dumb ass

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<v Speaker 2>vib over here.

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<v Speaker 3>You said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, that's what they say about Trump, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he sounds like a dumbass, but he's actually like a

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<v Speaker 2>super genius or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Who knows, right, But Okay, So when I started looking

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<v Speaker 4>into this research about the new Pope, I know some

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<v Speaker 4>stuff about Catholicism. I am not like the all knower

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<v Speaker 4>of all the things here. I know, you know a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit but I thought it was crazy that they

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<v Speaker 4>went into conclave and then the next day announced the pope,

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<v Speaker 4>like granted, and not all of them last for forever.

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<v Speaker 4>The longest on record lasted damn here three years, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was way back fifteen hundreds were not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 4>and they got so mad at it. Three three freaking

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<v Speaker 4>cardinals died in the process of electing that pope because

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<v Speaker 4>they took sue damn long. Then the people pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>barricaded the conclave, ripped open the roof, and only fed

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<v Speaker 4>them bread and water until they made a fucking decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know. He was actually elected on my birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>May eighth. No shitn't that crazy, dude? Queen Elizabeth died

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<v Speaker 2>the day that my son was born. Like, what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck is going on with my life?

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<v Speaker 3>That is wild?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm the Fed. I'm the Fed, the one

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<v Speaker 4>with all the synchronicities and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, okay, So so to further that point here,

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<v Speaker 4>he was elected on the second day with the fourth ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the last time that that happened was actually with

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<v Speaker 4>Pope Benedict. The shortest on record, if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 4>was Pope John Paul. He got elected on the first

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<v Speaker 4>go round, first vote. They threw his name in the hat,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was a wild card. Nobody really knew much

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<v Speaker 4>about him before everybody unanimously decided that this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, kind of the same situation with this guy. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>he was known within the cardinal circles. He was known

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the Order of Saint Augustine or Augustine, however you

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<v Speaker 4>want to pronounce it. We will talk about that order

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<v Speaker 4>because as we talk about hermeticism, i e. Hermit's, the

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<v Speaker 4>Order of Saint Augustine is known as a Hermit order

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<v Speaker 4>in certain circles. So we're gonna talk about all We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk about all it. But I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of crazy that they elected this guy right out

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<v Speaker 4>the rip. I mean, damn near two days, four votes

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<v Speaker 4>and they knew this was him. And it wasn't by

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<v Speaker 4>a small margin either. He was like ninety percent in

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<v Speaker 4>favor of him. And he's American, which which was seen

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<v Speaker 4>as a taboo. I know, we talked about possibly having

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<v Speaker 4>the first black pope, and yes, there's gonna be people

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<v Speaker 4>just because he was from Egypt doesn't mean he was black. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, most of them look a little off shade of

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<v Speaker 2>Like here's the crazy thing. And yeah, I know that

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<v Speaker 2>about a place, well, is the Vaticans. Not in Italy

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, But I mean Rome is kind of one of

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean we're not talking about there being like

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<v Speaker 4>Like nah, not even close here, bro, But like to say,

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<v Speaker 4>big melting pots of like global trade, global economy, big

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<v Speaker 4>ancient sites, historical sites like this. Yeah, you'll you'll have

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<v Speaker 4>people from all over like no doubts. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a conversation about potentially having the first Filipino pope.

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<v Speaker 4>actually sub Saharan black pope. Okay, there's all these different

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<v Speaker 4>conversations and some of them actually stood a good chance.

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<v Speaker 4>Then this guy pulls out of nowhere. He was not

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<v Speaker 4>ten list of potential new popes. Oh, this guy might

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<v Speaker 3>The reason being is that he is.

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<v Speaker 4>American, and the entire world doesn't like that America holds

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<v Speaker 4>America doesn't hold the power, blah blah blah, Yes we do,

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<v Speaker 4>Yes we do. There's a reason why all other countries

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<v Speaker 4>The coincidence kind of interesting, isn't it? Kind of weird

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<v Speaker 4>how that plays out. But we're gonna talk about all

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe indeed, Now with that being said, we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of different clips, a couple of different videos,

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<v Speaker 5>Our Vince Gerisoli was at the Vatican when the Chicago

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<v Speaker 6>Vince has had a long day and night, but he

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<v Speaker 6>what it was like to witness that moment in person.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm gonna be honest.

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<v Speaker 7>I got Tiary just to be a part of history,

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<v Speaker 7>first of all, but to also be part of just

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<v Speaker 7>such a hopeful moment. I mean, there were one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>thousand people gathered in Saint Peter's Square the avenues leading

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<v Speaker 7>to unite behind a person and a faith, an idea

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<v Speaker 7>that brings people together and has us there for one another,

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<v Speaker 7>for our brothers and sisters. That was really something extra special.

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<v Speaker 7>And I don't think I'm going to forget that feeling

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<v Speaker 7>anytime soon. I'm not going to forget how I felt also,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure you feel the same way when we

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<v Speaker 7>heard that there's an American pope and guess what. He

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've got a pope.

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<v Speaker 7>From Chicago, and that's really nifty, that's really cool. And

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<v Speaker 7>At the Catholic Theological Union and those ties to Chicago

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<v Speaker 7>are important, but we also have to say that he

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<v Speaker 7>working really with the poorest of the poor, and that

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<v Speaker 7>what his views are as a Catholic, and probably what

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<v Speaker 7>cardinals who come from Latin speaking countries were known to

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<v Speaker 7>say he's one of us. That's extremely important. The Pope

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<v Speaker 7>at his job as an administrator. He's made a cardinal

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<v Speaker 7>That gave him a chance to form one on one

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<v Speaker 7>relationships with a good portion of the people who are

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick, I'm going to keep playing here in a second,

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<v Speaker 4>Catholic Church. Now, nothing inherently wrong with that, but understand

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<v Speaker 4>that this also means that now that he is pope,

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get more into it, but I just

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to come into play here in a minute

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<v Speaker 4>when we talk about Francis and how this guy even

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 7>And That's one of the things that his predecessor, Pope

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<v Speaker 7>those who were in positions as cardinals or as bishops

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<v Speaker 8>So we need to celebrate the fact that.

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<v Speaker 7>He's an American, but also keep these other facts in

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<v Speaker 5>Vince, everyone is watching and in a way, I guess

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<v Speaker 5>you could say the world is watching and listening. So

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<v Speaker 5>what happens next? How does this work for a brand

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<v Speaker 5>new pope to go out knowing that everyone is listening

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<v Speaker 5>looking for clues about how he will handle his papacy,

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<v Speaker 5>what happens next, and how will we learn ultimately what

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think one of the most important things is

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<v Speaker 7>the same thing we do with the President of the

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<v Speaker 7>United States. Where is the first country that the president

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<v Speaker 7>visits and what message does the president want to give

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<v Speaker 7>with that visit? And that's something that we will look

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<v Speaker 7>toward with this pope. It wasn't his first visit, but

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<v Speaker 7>we do know that Pope Francis, his predecessor, visited Asia

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<v Speaker 7>to help spread the message that even though the Catholic

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<v Speaker 7>one of the most important things to see with Pope

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<v Speaker 7>Leo is where will he visit, what will his outreach be?

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<v Speaker 7>And also take a look at some of his next appointments.

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<v Speaker 7>There will be vacancies for cardinals and bishops, and that

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<v Speaker 7>will be very telling in the months ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, it will be. Now, like I said, just a

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<v Speaker 4>Brief overview of him himself, but we are going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk more about him in a second. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 4>from the Associated Press, and I understand they are super

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<v Speaker 4>liberal leaning. Fine, fine, but this kind of information is

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<v Speaker 4>something that honestly doesn't matter what your political leanings are.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about what is a conclave?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So what to knowe about the secretive process to elect

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<v Speaker 4>the new pope before we read this, Jonathan, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you currently like know or understand about the College of

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<v Speaker 4>Cardinals and how this process works?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Jack and shit?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, fair enough, fair enough, and most people don't right,

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<v Speaker 4>most people know that, Like, yeah, the dude with the

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<v Speaker 4>red yamicas get together and they release some white smoke

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<v Speaker 3>And that's about all that everybody really knows, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So let's go into detail a little bit and

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<v Speaker 4>learn about the Conclave of Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. A conclave is the centuries old election of a

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<v Speaker 2>pope that derives its name from the Italian conclave with

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<v Speaker 2>a key to underscore that cardinals are sequestered until they

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<v Speaker 2>find a winner. Cardinals have no contact with the outside world.

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<v Speaker 2>After the Master of liturgical ceremonies utters the words extra

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<v Speaker 2>omnies omnis uh, the Latin phrase for all out, to

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<v Speaker 2>ask all those present except the cardinal electors to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the cardinals will be staying at the Doma Santa Marta

425
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<v Speaker 2>hotel in Vatican City and possibly another nearby Vatican residents,

426
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<v Speaker 2>since there are more cardinal electors than Santa Marta hotel rooms.

427
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they've actually got quite a few cardinals, more than

428
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<v Speaker 4>I thought they did, to be honest with you.

429
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<v Speaker 3>But let's keep going here. How will it work?

430
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<v Speaker 2>So the conclave begins on May seventh in the afternoon.

431
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<v Speaker 2>The day begins with Mass celebrated in the morning by

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<v Speaker 2>the Dean of the College of Cardinals. Cardinal Giovanni Battista,

433
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<v Speaker 2>Cardinal Giovanni, Reverend Giovanni Batista. I guess in the afternoon,

434
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<v Speaker 2>the cardinals process into the Sistine Chapel and take their seats.

435
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<v Speaker 2>A priest delivers a meditation, and the cardinals take an oath.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's supposed to be mediation, isn't it?

437
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<v Speaker 3>No, that would be meditation.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting? And anyhow, after the extra omnes.

439
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<v Speaker 3>How did you say that extra omnis?

440
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<v Speaker 2>Honest? Okay? The conclave begins unless there are any outstanding

441
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<v Speaker 2>questions problems. Cardinals take a single vote the afternoon of

442
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<v Speaker 2>May seventh, seeking two thirds majority. If they don't find

443
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<v Speaker 2>a win winter on the first ballot, they retire for

444
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<v Speaker 2>the evening in the return and return to the Sistine

445
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<v Speaker 2>Chapel the following morning. They can take up the two

446
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<v Speaker 2>votes each morning in two each afternoon until they have

447
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<v Speaker 2>a winner. So who gets to be part of the

448
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<v Speaker 2>conclave would be Only cardinals under the age of eighty

449
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<v Speaker 2>are eligible to vote. Current regulations notionally limit the number

450
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<v Speaker 2>of electors to one hundred and twenty, but popes often

451
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<v Speaker 2>exceeded that ceiling, and today there are one hundred and

452
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<v Speaker 2>thirty five who are eligible, those cardinals who are over

453
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<v Speaker 2>eighty but can't vote, but can participate in pre conclave

454
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<v Speaker 2>meetings known as general congressions, in which church problems are discussed.

455
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<v Speaker 2>It was in these meetings in twenty thirteen that then

456
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<v Speaker 2>Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergolglio spoke about the need for the

457
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<v Speaker 2>church to go to the existential peripheries to find those

458
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<v Speaker 2>who suffer, and off the cuff speech that helped his election.

459
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<v Speaker 4>Jorge Mario Bergoglio would be what we would now call

460
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<v Speaker 4>Pope Francis. So as of now, there is one hundred

461
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<v Speaker 4>and thirty five cardinals, okay, and I mean that are

462
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<v Speaker 4>eligible now, Like you was saying here, if you've got

463
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<v Speaker 4>a cardinal who's been there for forever and he's over eighty,

464
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<v Speaker 4>he's actually not allowed to vote. He's allowed to be

465
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<v Speaker 4>a part of the discussion and everything, but they have

466
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<v Speaker 4>to at least be somewhat of sound mind. And they

467
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<v Speaker 4>actually put age restrictions on that not too terribly long ago.

468
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<v Speaker 4>But so one hundred and thirty five dudes wide in

469
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<v Speaker 4>to elect Pope Leo the fourteenth.

470
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<v Speaker 2>So are there major differences between this conclave and the

471
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<v Speaker 2>previous ones, so Saint John Paul the Second rewrote the

472
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<v Speaker 2>regulations on papal elections in nineteen ninety six, document that

473
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<v Speaker 2>remains largely enforced today, though Pope Benedict the sixteenth amended

474
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<v Speaker 2>it twice before he resigned. Francis didn't introduce any changes

475
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<v Speaker 2>into the conclave. It's though his influence will surely be felt,

476
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<v Speaker 2>given he named one hundred and eight of the one

477
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty five cardinal electors who are eligible to vote.

478
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<v Speaker 4>So let's let's just make sure we don't speed bump

479
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<v Speaker 4>on past that here.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

481
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<v Speaker 4>Of the one hundred and thirty five cardinals that went

482
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<v Speaker 4>to vote, one hundred and eight of them were directly created,

483
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<v Speaker 4>which is the term for that, you know, like make

484
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<v Speaker 4>someone a pope or like bless them, you create a cardinal.

485
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's the actual term for it.

486
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<v Speaker 4>So one hundred and eight of the one hundred and

487
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 4>thirty five of these dudes in red were literally put

488
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<v Speaker 4>there by probe Francis, who was the most liberal leaning

489
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<v Speaker 4>pope that we have had through human history.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Which makes sense when we're talking about this guy, now, it.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Does, doesn't it.

492
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<v Speaker 2>I Mean, you're talking about sends up dude, talking about

493
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<v Speaker 2>stacking the deck, I mean, one hundred and eight of

494
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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and thirty five that is, that's gotta

495
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<v Speaker 2>be like ninety percent right close to it.

496
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if it's actually nine or

497
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<v Speaker 3>if it's more like eighty five. I don't know.

498
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<v Speaker 2>I'm had it somewhere in there.

499
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<v Speaker 4>The point would be as far as needing a two

500
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<v Speaker 4>thirds majority, and you have stacked the deck this heavily.

501
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 4>You just got to make sure that you put your

502
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 4>boys in place where you want them, and it will

503
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 4>ensure a legacy positive or negative, to go onto the future. Now,

504
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 4>the current pope is being called a Francis junior, not

505
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 4>necessarily a good thing to be called, but it is

506
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<v Speaker 4>a It is some of the third terms that are

507
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<v Speaker 4>being thrown out at this time.

508
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<v Speaker 3>But let's continue.

509
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>So one hundred and eight divided by one hundred and

510
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<v Speaker 2>thirty five is actually eighty percent. That is eighty per Okay,

511
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Damn damn did we get that? Did I say eighty

512
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<v Speaker 2>or ninety percent?

513
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<v Speaker 4>You said ninety and I said if it was eighty

514
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 4>or eighty five? I mean, oka like we were going

515
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 4>to actually know that for a fact, But damn, one

516
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.799
<v Speaker 4>hundred and eight is eighty percent of one thirty five.

517
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Yep, this is why we need calculators, dude.

518
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I pulled that bad boy out. But anyway,

519
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Benedict's most notable change to the original nineteen ninety six

520
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>document was to exclude the possibility that a pope could

521
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>be elected by a simple majority of voting was stalemated,

522
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Benedict decreed the two thirds majority is always needed, no

523
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 2>matter how long it takes. He did so to prevent

524
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>cardinals from holding out for the twelve days foreseen by

525
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>John Paul and then pushing through a candidate with a

526
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>slim majority. If the conclave lasts that long, the top

527
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>two vote getters go to a runoff, with a two

528
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.079
<v Speaker 2>thirds majority required to win. Neither of the top two

529
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 2>candidates casts a ballot in the runoff.

530
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<v Speaker 3>Makes sense, Yeah, well this did not go to a runoff.

531
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 4>This was pretty landslide sweep as far as that's concerned.

532
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 4>But it makes sense whenever you see who put them

533
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 4>in that position.

534
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 3>But we will continue.

535
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<v Speaker 2>So, who is eligible to be elected pope? Any baptized

536
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Catholic mail is eligible to be pope? But since thirteen

537
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, only cardinals have been selected. Cardinals over the

538
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>age of eighty can be elected pope, even if they

539
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>can't be in the room to cast a ballot. Right,

540
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>this guy is actually relatively young in the seventies. He's

541
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 2>like in his late sixties.

542
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I think I got more information about him pulled up

543
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 4>on his own actual like his profile page on the

544
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 4>College of Cardinal website. We're going to learn all about

545
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 4>him in a bit. But it is very possible that

546
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>this guy is going to be the leader of the

547
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Catholic Church for the next two, if not three decades.

548
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 3>That's a real conversation.

549
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 2>So this next part is actually pretty interesting because it

550
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>ties into your boy, Pope Leo the fourteenth, and I

551
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>wanted to find Okay, So I'll read this and then

552
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll read what I got as far as his views

553
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>on women in the Vatican. So why aren't women part

554
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>of the process? Says Francis. And popes before him have

555
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>upheld the ban on ordaining women as priests, which precludes

556
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>them from being pope. Under Catholic doctrine, the priesthood is

557
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>reserved for men because Christ chose only twelve men as

558
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 2>his apostles. The teaching is considered divinely inspired and infallible.

559
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So that leads us into what is his views on

560
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>women in the church or women's roles in the church. Rather,

561
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 2>so it says, while pop Leo the fourteenth opposes the

562
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<v Speaker 2>ordination of women to the dia Khanate, so you say

563
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>that diaconate anyway, he acknowledges the valuable contributions women make

564
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to the church. He has supported the inclusion of women

565
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 2>in influential advert advisory roles, reflecting a commitment to expanding

566
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>women's participation in church life without altering traditional doctrines. So

567
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>he's not necessarily saying that they can be ordained by

568
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 2>any means, but he's trying to get them a little

569
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 2>bit of a boost within the church.

570
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<v Speaker 4>There is a massive movement right now to try to

571
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<v Speaker 4>get women ordained in the Catholic Church. And that's not

572
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 4>a new thing. It's been something women have been pushing

573
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 4>for for quite some time. And I'm not trying to

574
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<v Speaker 4>take a weird side tangent on this one.

575
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<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about the patriarchy. Come on, there's never

576
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>going to be a woman in the patriarchy. That's just

577
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the way it is.

578
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 4>But they're quoting the Bible as the reason why women

579
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 4>can't hold a position of leadership within the church.

580
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 3>There is.

581
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 4>It's how could I put this not trying to be

582
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 4>a dick. Yes, Jesus chose twelve.

583
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Apostles and they were all dudes.

584
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 4>He also had female disciples that were very loyal to

585
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 4>him who also helped preach.

586
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Uh, not to go that route.

587
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 4>But John the Beloved and Mary Magdalene one of his

588
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 4>other disciples, right, one of his most devout disciples. I

589
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 4>might add, No, Well, they John the Beloved and Mary

590
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<v Speaker 4>Magdalene may have gotten married. It's very possible.

591
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about them, Jesus and.

592
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 4>Mary Magdalene to not get married and have kids, say

593
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>the Rosa Crucians. Yeah, look at the rest of their

594
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>literature and then get back to me.

595
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, my.

596
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Point is they had a position within the church. But

597
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 4>when the day and age was, when the Bible was

598
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 4>being written, most women didn't know how to read. And

599
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that because it was just like they

600
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 4>were hailed down. Most of them did not read. They

601
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 4>most of them weren't taught.

602
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 3>So to have a.

603
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Woman teaching you from a book that she can't read

604
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 4>was seen as like no one's gonna listen to her.

605
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 4>Could you imagine going to a calculus class with a

606
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 4>guy who doesn't understand how math works.

607
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of my teachers in high school

608
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>were pretty fucking dumb.

609
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 4>So maybe if exhibit a exhibit fucking ad.

610
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<v Speaker 2>We did have. Actually, back in high school, we had

611
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<v Speaker 2>the cousin I don't know if it was a cousin

612
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<v Speaker 2>or sister to if you remember Glenn Dorsey, he played

613
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 2>at LSU. I think he went to EA too, So

614
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>in Pat's native and uh, dude, she taught like economics

615
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>or something completely over her head and she couldn't even

616
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>pronounce words regularly, like she was straight up like she

617
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>started out as a substitute teacher and somehow weaseled her

618
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>way into a permanent role and that class did not

619
00:32:58.440 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>suit her.

620
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 4>My point right now, this isn't teaching somebody some science,

621
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>some math. We're talking about people's eternal salvation. And maybe

622
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to teach someone about it, maybe you

623
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 4>should be able to read the literature yourself, right, read

624
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the literature and apply it and know the meaning and

625
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 4>be able to you see my point? Now, Mary Magdalen

626
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 4>could read actually, and so she was trusted to go

627
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 4>with John the Beloved and preach to people. A woman

628
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 4>preaching was seen as mind blowing at the time, but

629
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 4>she could also quote the book the same way the

630
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 4>men could. She wasn't chosen to be an apostle, but

631
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 4>she was a varied about disciple.

632
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<v Speaker 2>The way I see it is who cares, Like if

633
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<v Speaker 2>the message is getting through, who cares who's saying.

634
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 4>It, because it matters if it's telephoned, word of mouth,

635
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 4>or if you're able to show them the paper and

636
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<v Speaker 4>read it to them.

637
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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm talking about today's day and age, not back then.

638
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<v Speaker 4>Right right, right, right, right, exactly exactly, Yes, I agree

639
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<v Speaker 4>with you. Later on in the New test meant Paul

640
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 4>all right, dude who wrote most of the New Testament,

641
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<v Speaker 4>later on said, and I'm quoting here, a woman cannot

642
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 4>hold a position of leadership over a man. Now, that

643
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<v Speaker 4>alone is a cherry picks statement, and that alone could

644
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<v Speaker 4>be misquoted to mean that, Yeah, no.

645
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Woman's going to rise at the top of this church. No.

646
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<v Speaker 4>No, See, if you read who that letter was being

647
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 4>written to, you would learn that the women at the

648
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 4>town where that was addressed to also couldn't read, So

649
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't speaking about that on behalf of all of Christendom.

650
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 4>He was speaking about this one particular group in general.

651
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 4>In that same letter, he has like eight different women

652
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<v Speaker 4>he called out for being amazing leaders, wonderful people as

653
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 4>far as like portraying the message and all these things.

654
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 4>So like as he is saying that, he's also giving

655
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 4>certain women within that community their flowers, their props. It

656
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 4>wasn't towards all women, but certain denominations have taken that

657
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 4>to apply it to all women.

658
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 3>That's where this kind of comes from.

659
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean whatever, it's Uh, it's kind of

660
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>like a tradition I guess at this point to not

661
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<v Speaker 2>even you know, allow women to be ordained or whatever it's.

662
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't noticean faiths allow it. Most, not all, but

663
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 4>most Protestant faiths allow women to be pastors, even if

664
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 4>it's two only women congregations. Like if a woman just

665
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 4>throwing this out, if you've got a weekend women's conference

666
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 4>going on, I'm just being here. Maybe I'm just speaking

667
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 4>on behalf of men here. Maybe we shouldn't be in

668
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 4>the fucking room, dude. Maybe women should be ministering to

669
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 4>other women because they know what the fuck other women

670
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 4>might be going through that men have no fucking clue about.

671
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>That's just me now.

672
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 4>At the same time, if I'm at a men's conference

673
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 4>or something, perhaps a woman shouldn't be preaching to.

674
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 3>A room full of men. I might. I might be

675
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>blowing people's minds right now, But that's just me. You see.

676
00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 4>I believe that there is a place, as far as

677
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 4>pastor work goes in ministry for all people of all

678
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 4>backgrounds and all sexes. There's two, by the way, but

679
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 4>you see my point.

680
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean it's an old rule when they

681
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 2>just haven't changed it kind of thing exactly.

682
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they have nuns.

683
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 4>They have nuns, which also, interestingly enough, the nuns being

684
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 4>the sisters and things.

685
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 3>They have friars or brothers of the of the Catholic Church.

686
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Our current pope was a friar that later became a

687
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 4>priest and we're going to talk about the difference between

688
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 4>the two as well, because honestly, I didn't know much about.

689
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>That until today.

690
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 4>But we're getting back to the message here. So long

691
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 4>story short, why aren't women a part of the process?

692
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Long story short? Tradition and misquoted Biblical let's go.

693
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>So the voting process is a secret. But Benedict tightened

694
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the oath of secrecy in the conclave, making clear that

695
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>anyone who reveals what went on outside faces automatic excommunication.

696
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>And John Paul's rules, excommunication was always a possibility, but

697
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Benedict revised the oath that liturgical assistants and secretaries take

698
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>to make it explicit, saying they must observe absolute and

699
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 2>perpetual secrecy and explicitly refrain from using any audio or

700
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 2>video recording devices. They now declare in quotes, I take

701
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>this oath fully aware that an infraction thereof will incur

702
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the penalty of automatic excommunication reserved to the Apolisticostolics. He

703
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Apostolic there we go. See, so help me God and

704
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 2>these Holy Gospels which I touch with my hand.

705
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Right.

706
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 4>So basically, what goes on in the College of Cardinals

707
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 4>in the conclave stays in the conclave.

708
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's fine.

709
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got Vegas rules. It's all good.

710
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

711
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 2>So how does the conclave announce that they've selected a

712
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>new pope? After the ballots are pierced, they are burned

713
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>in a cylindrical stove at the end of the voting session.

714
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Black smoke from smoke from the Cystine chapel chimney means

715
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 2>no decision. White smoke signals the cardinals have chosen a

716
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>pope and that he has accepted. Chemical cartridges are added

717
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.519
<v Speaker 2>to ensure that there is no confusion over the color.

718
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>To produce black smoke, a cartridge containing potassium per per chlorate,

719
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>an thrust scene the component of coal, tar and sulfur

720
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>is burned with the ballots. For white smoke, a cartridge

721
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>of potassium chlorate, lactose and chloroform resin is burned with

722
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the ballots. Bells are also run to signal the election

723
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>of a new pope. For further clarity, a new pope

724
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is introduced from the loggia overlooking Saint Peter Square with

725
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the words habbi habi mus papem, which means we have

726
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a pope and his chosen papal name. The new Pope

727
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 2>then emerges and gives his first blessing, which we just

728
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of.

729
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Saw indeed, indeed so real quick. Also a quick side

730
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 4>bit of knowledge. Why do pope choose new names? Well,

731
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 4>that wasn't always the case. The first guy to do that,

732
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 4>as a matter of fact, was a dude whose given

733
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 4>name was Mercury in the year five thirty three a

734
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 4>d and at a time when they were still trying

735
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 4>to leave the ways of ancient Rome behind them. You

736
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to have Pope Mercury being the guy, right,

737
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 4>so he decided to take a new name. And since

738
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 4>five point thirty three to now, when a new pope

739
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 4>takes over, he leaves his birth name behind him and

740
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 4>he takes on a new name. So that's kind of

741
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 4>the the backstory to that one there.

742
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That is very, very extremely symbolic. Bro, Like this is

743
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>can I just can I just give you a little

744
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.039
<v Speaker 2>symbolism right now before we forget. So I've been, dude,

745
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I've been deep diving on this number eighty eight because

746
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it keeps on popping up like crazy with with this

747
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>new pope and the old pope and then of course

748
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>what's his name from the World of World Economic Forum

749
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 2>clouds swap, yeah, and there just seems to be eighty

750
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>eight all over the damn place. So this pope gets it,

751
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 2>gets elect on the eighth, which is okay, whatever, no

752
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>big deal. But then there's also a lot of mercury

753
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 2>symbol Mercury symbolism with the number eighty eight as well.

754
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 2>This is where it gets really strange. So the uh

755
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it says, uh, this makes okay. So Mercury takes exactly

756
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight earth days to orbit the Sun. Did you

757
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>know that?

758
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 3>So one Mercury year is eighty eight earth days? I

759
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 3>did not know that.

760
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Eighty eight days? Okay? And the first pope to go

761
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>not by his real name was fucking Mercury.

762
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you shitting me? In five thirty three a d.

763
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>You want to hear another fun fact? So this new pope,

764
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>he's actually a fan. He's from Chicago. He's a huge

765
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 2>White Sox fan, right shocker. So this is going to

766
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 2>trip you the fuck out, bro. So let me try

767
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and find it here because I have a bunch of

768
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:57.679
<v Speaker 2>stuff all over the dan place.

769
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so share the screen?

770
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'll just read it. So he's a

771
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Chicago White Sox fan. He's a lifelong supporter of the

772
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Chicago White Sox. Pope Leo the fourteenth was spotted attending

773
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and five World Series, where the White

774
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Sox clinched their first championship in how many years? Go

775
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>ahead and say it, oh, oh, hey, eighty eight years?

776
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>He went to that game. Dude, what dude, I'm saying it.

777
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>That's just a little taste. That's just a little taste

778
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 2>of the eighty eights that we're going to be getting

779
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>into today. Because it is absurd how many synchronous like coincidences, synchronous.

780
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>He's whatever you want to call him with this eighty eight.

781
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 2>It gets wild.

782
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I don't even know what to say to this.

783
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't either. I don't either. I'm just like, why

784
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>are we seeing this number all over the place?

785
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 3>All right?

786
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, I can't wait to hear even more about it,

787
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 4>because I mean that, to be fair, we talked about

788
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 4>the number eighty eight last week and the week before

789
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 4>because we're events just keep on playing out and that

790
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 4>number just keeps on coming up. I know my Southern

791
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 4>red neckedness is coming out. When I think eighty eight,

792
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 4>I think of Dale Earnhardt's car number when he was

793
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was number eight and then he became

794
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 4>the eighty eight.

795
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 8>Right.

796
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 2>But Klaus Schwab, he exits the world economic for him

797
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 2>at eighty eight years old. Pube Francis dies at eighty

798
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 2>eight years old. This new guy, like, what is going

799
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>like the matrix is starting to glitch. I think a

800
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 2>little bit, dude.

801
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm not even I'm not even trying to throw more

802
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 4>weight into this. But to your point, second day of voting,

803
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 4>fourth ballot, I.

804
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Was thinking that too. I didn't want to say.

805
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 4>It, and it was on the eighth day of the month,

806
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 4>Like I fuck me. Here we are, yeah, Like, what

807
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 4>are we talking about here?

808
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 2>The double infinity, the double or boros?

809
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Damn it, it's all symbolic, ladies and gentlemen, It's all

810
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 4>part of.

811
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 2>The plan, or should I say, for those that don't know,

812
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the ora boros the fucking snake eating its own tail.

813
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>If that's not symbolic enough for you for the.

814
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Pope, yeap. All right, geez, here we go. So this

815
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 3>is from the Vatican News.

816
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Is an article, and we're gonna kind of jump in

817
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 4>and out of this one a little bit here. But

818
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 4>this is a biography of Pope Leo the fourteenth, born

819
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 4>Robert Francis Prevost.

820
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Bob, yeah, Bobby Probert. Oh, his middle name is Francis.

821
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting, isn't it interesting how that played out?

822
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, okay, So anyhow, the first Augustinian Pope, uh

823
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Leo the fourteenth is the second Roman pontiff after Pope

824
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Francis from the Americas, unlike Jorge Madiol Bogoglio. However, the

825
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine, oh sixty nine, okay, the sixty nine year

826
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>old Robert Francis prevost is from the northern part of

827
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the continent, though he spent many years as a missionary

828
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>in Peru before being elected head of the Augustinians for

829
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 2>two consecutive terms.

830
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 3>So quick, real quick. So he's only sixty nine years old.

831
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 4>Now, I know that that seems old to a lot

832
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 4>of people, a lot jo for sixty nine probably seems old.

833
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 4>But like as far as being a pope goes, that's

834
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 4>pretty young.

835
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't at least

836
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>in our lifetimes, we've only ever had really old popes.

837
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, right, yeah, I mean since our lifetime we

838
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 4>had John Paul, then Benedict and Francis. And I mean

839
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 4>John Paul served for a good long while there. But

840
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean he also lived longer than most people expected.

841
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, even with nothing else, even if we

842
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 4>are expecting him to go only to eighty eight like Francis,

843
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 4>that means that he will be leading the Catholic Church

844
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 4>for around twenty years, which is a lot. That's twenty

845
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 4>years worth of things that he will be able to

846
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<v Speaker 4>make happen. Okay, entire religious dogmas and practices that he

847
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<v Speaker 4>will be able to change in that time.

848
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<v Speaker 3>Now will he? Will he not?

849
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<v Speaker 4>We're all speculating and hypothetical here, but let's talk more

850
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 4>about this whole first Augustinian Pope, because I'm gonna be

851
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 4>honest with you. I had never heard of the Augustinian

852
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<v Speaker 4>Order before this guy. I had heard of the Order

853
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 4>of jesus Aka or the Society of jesus Aka, the Jesuits.

854
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 4>I had heard of the Society of mary Aka, the Mariuses.

855
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I had heard of these other groups within the Catholic Church.

856
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Never heard of Augustinian as an organization, now, I know,

857
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 4>saying Augustus or Augustine, Augustine, Augustine, whatever.

858
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<v Speaker 3>You want to say.

859
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<v Speaker 4>He was a big time writer as far as when

860
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Christianity became a thing. He was a He actually got

861
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 4>to start in Neoplatonism, and then whenever he found his faith.

862
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.840
<v Speaker 4>He used the blending of philosophy with the actual biblical

863
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 4>texts to formulate and describe what we now mostly call

864
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 4>New christiandom, but we'll get to him in a moment.

865
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Let's learn more about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the New Bishop of Rome was born on September fourteenth,

867
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty five, in Chicago, Illinois, to Louis Marius Prevost

868
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<v Speaker 2>of French and Italian descent and Mildrid Martinez of Spanish descent.

869
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 2>He has two brothers, Louis Martin and John Joseph. He

870
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 2>spent his childhood and adolescents with his family, and studied

871
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<v Speaker 2>first at the Minor Seminary of the Augustinian Fathers and

872
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>then at Villanova University in Pennsylvania, where in nineteen seventy

873
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 2>seven he earned a degree in mathematics and also studied philosophy.

874
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<v Speaker 2>On September first of the same year, Provost entered the

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<v Speaker 2>Novitate Novitiate I don't know of the Order of Saint

876
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Augustine and Saint Louis in the province of Our Lady

877
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>of Good Council of Chicago, and made his first profession

878
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>on September second, nineteen seventy eight. On August twenty ninth,

879
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one, he made his solemn vows.

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00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.719
<v Speaker 4>The real quick Let's learn a little bit about that

881
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Order of Augustine.

882
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 3>All right, you were just a little quick backstory about it,

883
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, leg go.

884
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 9>Saint Augustine, generally called Augustinians or austin Friars, is a

885
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:03.119
<v Speaker 9>Catholic religious order. It was founded in twelve fifty four

886
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 9>by bringing together several aramitical orders in the Tuscany region

887
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 9>who were following the Rule of Saint Augustine written by

888
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 9>Saint Augustine of Hippo in the fifth century. In its establishment,

889
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 9>in its current form, it was shaped as a mendicant order,

890
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 9>one of the four great orders which follow that way

891
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 9>of life. The order has done much to extend the

892
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 9>influence of the Church, to propagate the Roman Catholic faith,

893
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 9>and to advance learning. The order has in particular spread

894
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 9>internationally the veneration of the Virgin Mary under the title

895
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 9>of Our Lady of Good Counsel.

896
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 3>So that was just the quick overture of it.

897
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 4>But then there was this other video I wanted to

898
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 4>show that I think actually does a pretty good job

899
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 4>of showing the backstory of it, because real quick, do

900
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 4>you even know who Saint Augustine is or Augustine?

901
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard of this? Dude?

902
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't tell you that I do, sir.

903
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay, fair enough, fair enough, And to be honest with you,

904
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 4>most Christians, even that if you're not Catholic, have really

905
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 4>and maybe heard of him as like a history, uh

906
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 4>spark note of it, but don't really know much about

907
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>him or.

908
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 3>What he did.

909
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 4>So here's another video, and this is from the Augustinians.

910
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Of the UK, and let's learn a little bit more

911
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>about our boy here.

912
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're watching like Rocky one yo.

913
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 4>As we're talking about Chicago, you're gonna bring up Rocky.

914
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 10>The Order of Saint Augustine, or the Augustinians, are members

915
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 10>of a Roman Catholic order that was founded in twelve

916
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 10>forty four AD. This community includes friars, nuns, and lay people,

917
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 10>following in the footsteps of Saint Augustine of Hippo, an

918
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 10>early Christian theologian who shaped the foundations of modern Christianity

919
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 10>and Western philosophy. Though born over sixteen hundred years ago

920
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 10>in three point fifty four AD, Saint Agustston's restless heart

921
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 10>still resonates deeply with people from around the world. Much

922
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 10>of what we know of Saint Augustine today comes from

923
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 10>his influential works, The Confessions and The City of God.

924
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 10>In his youth, Augustine rebelled against piety and led a

925
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 10>hedonistic lifestyle. Unsatisfied, he turned to a search for knowledge,

926
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 10>devoting himself to the art of rhetoric. But over and

927
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.599
<v Speaker 10>over he found that no amount of knowledge or worldly

928
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 10>pleasure could quiet his restless heart. In his masterpiece The Confessions,

929
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 10>Augustine writes that the decisive moment in his conversion occurred

930
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 10>in a garden in Milan, where he heard a child's

931
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 10>voice bid him take up and read. He opened the Bible, and,

932
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 10>reading Saint Paul's Letter to the Romans, experienced a moment

933
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 10>of metanoia. He found new purpose in the word of

934
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 10>Jesus Christ and committed himself to serving God and his people.

935
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 10>He was baptized and eventually became a renowned theologian, bishop

936
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 10>and doctor of the Church. His teachings laid the foundations

937
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 10>for Christian thought and have inspired generations of men and

938
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 10>women to devote their lives to Christ. Today, thousands of

939
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.559
<v Speaker 10>Friars serve in over forty seven countries on every continent

940
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 10>of the world. Following the example of Saint Augustine, these

941
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 10>men and women commit their lives to serving all of

942
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.920
<v Speaker 10>God's people and spreading community and charity throughout the world.

943
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 4>All right, So there's a little bit more backstory about

944
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 4>Saint Augustine and how this order was founded. Now again

945
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 4>to give Saint Augustine or Saint Augustine, however you want

946
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 4>to pronounce it. His Flowers homeboy was a very prolific

947
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 4>philosopher and debater. I mean, we wouldn't have called a

948
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 4>debate back then. It was the art of rhetoric back

949
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 4>in the day. But he was digging into every.

950
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Philosophical and not even like I want to say, ancient

951
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 3>mystery school by any means, but basically Socrates, Aristotle.

952
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:12.679
<v Speaker 4>Plato, Neoplatonism, all these things. And like they said, he

953
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 4>lived a very hedonistic lifestyle for his earlier years up

954
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 4>until I want to say he was like twenty five

955
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 4>twenty six, he basically did as Thou wilt, as was

956
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 4>the going way in Rome at the time. And then

957
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 4>while I say that he was in Hippo or at

958
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 4>least that's where he wrote his big works and everything,

959
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 4>then whenever he found God, he actually ended up writing

960
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 4>more books and more works on Christian thought and theology,

961
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 4>in Christ than Paul did.

962
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>He wrote more.

963
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 4>Than our boy who wrote most of the New Testament

964
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 4>did in a shorter span of time.

965
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 3>So homeboy just like got to work.

966
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 4>And not everything he wrote people get down with.

967
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I understand that, But a lot.

968
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 4>Of what he wrote is a lot of how the

969
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 4>early Church started formulating their thought process to understanding the

970
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 4>mind of God and the philosophy behind it all. So

971
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 4>mad props to him as a as a writer and

972
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.480
<v Speaker 4>as a theologian, but neither here nor there. The Order

973
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 4>was founded to kind of further that work, and it's

974
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 4>seen as a charitable organization. Now put a big pin

975
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 4>in this one as well, because when we get to

976
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:26.400
<v Speaker 4>the controversy surrounding the current pope about his actions while

977
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 4>he was working with the Augustinian Order, turning a blind

978
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 4>eye to certain allegations and misconducts that were done, I

979
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 4>want everybody to keep in mind how this Order was

980
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 4>founded and what it was for. We're gonna get to

981
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 4>it all in a bit anyway. All right, here we go,

982
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 4>the future Pontiff. We talked about him with his education

983
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. Then in Rome he was ordained a priest. Okay,

984
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 4>so he became a friar. First he was a monk,

985
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 4>a brother, if you will, and then became a pre

986
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 4>later on. Now it says he took those vows in

987
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 4>eighty one and he became a priest in eighty two.

988
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 4>So I actually didn't know much of the difference between

989
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 4>between a friar and a priest, to be honest with you,

990
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I know that they both are guys that commit their

991
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 4>life to the church, you know, and they take vows

992
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.159
<v Speaker 4>of chastity and poverty and all these things. And I

993
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 4>know one guy can like perform rites and one guy can't.

994
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Like one dude can hear confessions and the other dude can't.

995
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 4>But like, that's about all I really knew about it.

996
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever thought about this?

997
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Friars were the ones that are basically rocking like the scullet, right, Yeah, okay, yeah,

998
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:49.679
<v Speaker 2>fucking weird guys. Yeah. I don't know too much about

999
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>all of this, all the official kind of how they

1000
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 2>get down or whatever. I mean, it's I'm sure they

1001
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>have a reason for their occult like nature.

1002
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, there you go, right, and so let's learn about

1003
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 4>it here. What is the difference between a friar and

1004
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 4>a priest?

1005
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.239
<v Speaker 11>What is the difference between a friar and a priest.

1006
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 11>If you've ever found yourself wondering about the different roles

1007
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 11>within the Catholic Church, you're not alone. Let's break down

1008
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 11>the differences between a friar and a priest, two terms

1009
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 11>that are often confused but have distinct meanings. First, let's

1010
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.159
<v Speaker 11>start with what they have in common. Both friars and

1011
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 11>priests are men who have dedicated their lives to serving

1012
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 11>the Catholic Church. However, their roles, lifestyles, and responsibilities can

1013
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 11>be quite different. A priest in the Catholic Church is

1014
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 11>a man who has received the sacrament of Holy Orders.

1015
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 11>This means he has the authority to celebrate the Mass,

1016
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:49.360
<v Speaker 11>hear confessions, give absolution, and perform other sacraments. Priests can

1017
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 11>be associated with a diocese, a religious order, or a

1018
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 11>monastic community. For example, a diocesan priest works under the

1019
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 11>authority of a bishop and may own property or engage

1020
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 11>in various fas of ministry and administration. Now let's look

1021
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 11>at friars. A friar is a priest or a religious

1022
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 11>brother who is part of a mendicant religious order. The

1023
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 11>term friar comes from the Latin word frater, meaning brother.

1024
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 11>Friars live in communities called friaries and are known for

1025
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 11>their active ministry among the people. They preach, teach, care

1026
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 11>for the sick, and engage in various forms of service. Friars,

1027
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 11>such as Franciscans and Dominicans, take vows of poverty, chastity,

1028
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 11>and obedience to their superiors, known as provincials. Here's a

1029
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 11>key difference. Not all friars are priests. Some friars are

1030
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 11>religious brothers who have not been ordained but still live

1031
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 11>the consecrated life, following the same vows and lifestyle as

1032
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 11>friar priests. These brothers contribute to the community through various

1033
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 11>roles such as education, health care, or administrative tasks. In contrast,

1034
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 11>a priest who is not a friar might be a

1035
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<v Speaker 11>diocesan priest who works directly under a bishop and does

1036
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 11>not take vows of poverty. Diocesan priests can own property

1037
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 11>and engage in a wider range of activities outside their ministry.

1038
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.519
<v Speaker 11>Another important distinction is where they live and work. Friars

1039
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 11>are often on the move, traveling to different places to

1040
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 11>carry out their ministry. Monks, on the other hand, live

1041
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 11>in monasteries and lead more stable, contemplative lives focused on

1042
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 11>prayer and work. Priests, depending on their role, might live

1043
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 11>in parishes, monasteries, or friaries. In summary, while both friars

1044
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 11>and priests are dedicated to serving the Church, the terms

1045
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 11>refer to different roles and lifestyles. Friars are part of

1046
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 11>mendicant orders, often engaged in active ministry among the people,

1047
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 11>and may or may not be priests. Priests in general

1048
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 11>have the authority to perform sacraments and can be associated

1049
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 11>with various forms of ministry within the church. Understanding these

1050
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 11>differences helps us appreciate the diverse ways in which individuals

1051
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 11>serve the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that kind of breaks that down a little bit.

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00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Of the friars kind of they dedicate their lives to

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00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 4>the church, but they also haven't gone that extra step

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00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 4>of whenever they get the ability to get the Holy

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00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 4>orders right, they are able to then like when they

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00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 4>say give the sacraments, they literally mean like celebrate the

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00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Eucharist for instance, Right, a friar or a monk is

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00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 4>not going to preside over the bread and wine part

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00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 4>of the mass. Okay, They're not going to lead a mass.

1061
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 4>They may assist in that order. They may go help

1062
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 4>the sick, they may go help the poor in some way,

1063
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 4>shape or form. But they're also not going to be

1064
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 4>there to give somebody last rites on their deathbed. They

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00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 4>can't hear confession, they can't give absolution or you know,

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00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 4>absolving somebody of their sins, which that is another part

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00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 4>of the Catholic Church that I don't necessarily agree with,

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00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 4>but I'm not here for that conversation. The monks and

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00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 4>the friars are not going to do that. A priest

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00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 4>gets their Holy orders and can do that. So there's

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00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 4>a distinct difference. Right, the friar's female counterpart in the

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00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 4>monkst female counterparts would be the nuns. Right, Friars live

1073
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.239
<v Speaker 4>in a friary. Nuns live in a nunnery, neither of

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00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 4>which can do the shit that a pop or a

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00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 4>pope a priest can do, but they do other types

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00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 4>of really important work, kind of behind the scenes for

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00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 4>the church.

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00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Are we all on the same page?

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00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Awesome? All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So in Rome he was ordained a priest in June nineteenth,

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00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty two, at the Augustrian College at Saint Monica

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00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.559
<v Speaker 4>by Archbishop Jean Jaudeaux, then pro president of the Secretariat

1084
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 4>for Non Christians, which later became the Pontifical Council for

1085
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 4>the Interreligious Dialogue and then the Dicastery for inter Religious Dialogue,

1086
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 4>So they keep changing the names. But long story short,

1087
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 4>he was a secretariat, a secretary for this group that

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00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 4>wants to go out and reach non Christians essentially right right.

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00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 2>So Prevos obtained his licentiate in nineteen eighty four, and

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00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the following year, while preparing his doctoral thesis, he was

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00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 2>sent to the Augustinian Mission in Chulu Khanas, Perua, Peru.

1092
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty seven, he defended his doctoral thesis on

1093
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 2>the role of the local Prior in the Order of

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00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Saint Augustine and was appointed Vocation Director and Missions Director

1095
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Augustinian Province of Mother of Good Counsel in

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00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Olympia Fields, Illinois. Then he went on to mission in Peru.

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00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>The following year he joined the mission in Trulio, also

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00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>in Peru, as director of the Joint Formation Project for

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00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Augustinian candidates from the Vicarates Vicariates.

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00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.320
<v Speaker 4>There we go, I think Vicarates because like the vicar

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00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 4>of Rome, Nourkoreates I don't fucking know.

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00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that of Trulikans.

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00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got a lot of big words of chulcanas,

1104
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>equidos and eppurimac.

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01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Can't pronounce these Peruvian words. Tell me I can't either.

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01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 2>No, no Peruvian women. On the other hand, I can

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01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:15.480
<v Speaker 2>pronounce that. That being said, over the course of eleven years,

1108
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>he served as prior of the community from eighty eight

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01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.760
<v Speaker 2>to ninety two, formation director from eighty eight to ninety eight,

1110
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 2>and instructor of professed members from ninety two to ninety eight,

1111
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and in the Archdiocese of Trulio as judicial Vicar from

1112
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine to ninety eight and professor of canon law,

1113
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 2>patristics and moral theology at the major seminary San Carlos

1114
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 2>East San Marcello. At the same time, he was also

1115
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 2>entrusted with the pastoral care of Our Lady Mother of

1116
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the Church, later established as parish of Saint Rita from

1117
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight to ninety nine, in a poor suburb of

1118
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the city, and was parish administrator of Our Lady of

1119
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Montserrat from ninety two to ninety nine. In ninety nine,

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01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 2>he was elected Provincial of the Augustinian Province of Mother

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01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 2>of Good Counsel in Chicago, and two and a half

1122
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 2>years later, the Ordinary General Chapter of the Order of

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01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Saint Augustine elected him as Prior General, confirming him in

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01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.239
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven for a second term.

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01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 4>And in story short, he was the Dude in charge

1126
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.039
<v Speaker 4>of the Augustinian Order at this time.

1127
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 2>In October of twenty thirteen, he returned to his Augustinian

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01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 2>priveent province in Chicago, serving as Director of Formation at

1129
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the Saint Augustine Convent, First Councilor and Provincial vicar, roles

1130
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he held until Pope Francis appointed him on November three,

1131
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, as I always fucking butcher that word appo apostolic, apostolic,

1132
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I always want to say it weirder as Apostolic Administrator

1133
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 2>of the Peruvian Diocese of Chicklayo, elevating him to the

1134
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:55.039
<v Speaker 2>episcopal dignity as titular Bishop of suffer. He entered the

1135
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 2>diocese on November seventh, and the presence of say it again,

1136
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>there we go Nancio James Patrick Green, who ordained him

1137
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 2>bishop just over a month later, on December twelfth, the

1138
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Feast of Our Lady of Guadaloupe in the Cathedral of

1139
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Saint Mary. His episcopal motto is in eo uno unum

1140
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 2>words pronounced by Saint Augustine and a servant on Psalm

1141
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.519
<v Speaker 2>one twenty seven to explain that in quotes, although we

1142
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Christians are many, in the One Christ, we are one.

1143
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:29.480
<v Speaker 3>There you go.

1144
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 4>So we talk a little bit about him being a

1145
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:34.519
<v Speaker 4>bishop in Peru for a bit. Then he was the

1146
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Prefect of the Dicastry of Bishops. In January thirtieth, twenty

1147
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty three, the Pope at the time, for instance, called

1148
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 4>him to Rome as Prefect of the Dicastry for Bishops

1149
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.559
<v Speaker 4>and President of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, promoting

1150
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 4>him to the rank of archbishop. Now what that means

1151
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 4>is that this guy was the dude in charge of

1152
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 4>naming who could and could not become bishop.

1153
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Granted twenty twenty three to now, it's not a long time.

1154
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:06.079
<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, he was definitely in charge

1155
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 4>of this, and he was he was a big player

1156
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:11.599
<v Speaker 4>as far as his concern. Now again, all of this

1157
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.039
<v Speaker 4>and nobody had them on the Bingo card. Nobody saw

1158
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 4>your boy pro Voste prevost as a potential real runner

1159
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.719
<v Speaker 4>for the Pope. They just wasn't a thing. Maybe he

1160
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.599
<v Speaker 4>wasn't loud enough. Maybe he was more about his business

1161
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 4>and not about the antics of it all.

1162
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Or was he lying quietly in wait until the time came.

1163
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.599
<v Speaker 2>He seemed like he was a h n I c

1164
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.840
<v Speaker 2>at the time to me, So how this could have

1165
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 2>come from left field makes no sense.

1166
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.519
<v Speaker 3>Right right? I don't know?

1167
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, he was created cardinal in twenty twenty four.

1168
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis created him cardinal in the consist Story of

1169
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>September thirtieth that year and assigned him the Diaconate of

1170
01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Saint Monica. He officially took profession on it of it

1171
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 2>on January twenty, twenty twenty four. As head of Dicastri,

1172
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 2>he participated in the Pope's most recent a a postalico Apostolic,

1173
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 2>ah Postolic, not Apostolic? Okay, Apostolic like apple app apple,

1174
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.480
<v Speaker 2>there we go, see Aostolic. You know, That's just how

1175
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 2>it is anyway, is.

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01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:21.679
<v Speaker 4>The only way I know how to pronounce it is

1177
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:23.960
<v Speaker 4>again because growing up that is the prayer that is

1178
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:27.079
<v Speaker 4>said in the mass A lot.

1179
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't grow up in church. I don't know

1180
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 2>these damn words.

1181
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I feel you, dog, I feel you. And by the way,

1182
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Apostolic just means Catholic.

1183
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Can they just say that?

1184
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Then that's easier, you would think, you would think, but

1185
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 4>they had to have a bunch of fancy Latin sounding

1186
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:41.360
<v Speaker 4>words to mean everything.

1187
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:44.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole thing, okay. So he participated in the

1188
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Pope's most recent apostolic journeys and in both the first

1189
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and second sessions in the sixteenth Ordinary General Assembly of

1190
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the Synod Synod of Bishops on Snod Synodality, held in

1191
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Rome from October fourth to twenty ninth and twenty twenty three,

1192
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and from October second to the twenty seventh twenty twenty four, respectively. Meanwhile,

1193
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:11.079
<v Speaker 2>on October fourth, twenty twenty three, Pope Francis appointed him

1194
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 2>as a member of the Dicastories for Evangelization, for the

1195
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Doctrine of the Faith, for the Eastern Churches, for the Clergy,

1196
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:26.039
<v Speaker 2>for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apolistic Apostolic

1197
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:31.599
<v Speaker 2>There we go Life, for Culture and Education, for legislative Texts,

1198
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and of the Pontifical Commission for the Vatican City State.

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01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Finally, real quick, real quick, real quick.

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01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.639
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying that in October twenty twenty three, the

1201
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Pope named him the leader of all of that, all

1202
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:49.599
<v Speaker 4>of these things like that was a long mouthful here, dude,

1203
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:53.719
<v Speaker 4>evangelication and new particular churches, for the Doctrine of the Faith,

1204
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 4>for the Eastern Churches, for the clergy, for institutes of

1205
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 4>consecrated life and societies about Basolic life, for the culture

1206
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 4>and education, for legislative text, and for the Pontifical Commission

1207
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:05.119
<v Speaker 4>of the Vatican.

1208
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Season. Bro, your boy was wearing like fifteen hats.

1209
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, when you're not allowed to get asks,

1210
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 2>you gotta get to work, you know what I mean.

1211
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:18.159
<v Speaker 3>You gotta keep them hands busy, dog, say.

1212
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when we don't have women in

1213
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.480
<v Speaker 2>our life, We actually get shit done? Am I right?

1214
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Am I right? Ah?

1215
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I all just kidd here. I'm just going to look.

1216
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 3>Find me a poor gay couple and I'll call you

1217
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 3>a liar.

1218
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you find him at Aka all the time,

1219
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's not necessarily a poor place.

1220
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:36.440
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm just saying.

1221
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not top notch by any means, but

1222
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, right right Anyhow, Finally, on February sixth of

1223
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.519
<v Speaker 2>this year, the Argentine Pope promoted him to the Order

1224
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:51.519
<v Speaker 2>of Bishops, granting him the title of the Suburbicarean Church

1225
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of Albano. Three days later, on February ninth, he celebrated

1226
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the mass presided over the Pope or over by Pope

1227
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Francis and Saint Peter's where for the Jubilee of the

1228
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Armed Forces, the second major event of the Holy Year

1229
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:08.559
<v Speaker 2>of Hope. During the most recent hospitalization of his predecessor

1230
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:13.480
<v Speaker 2>at the Gamelli Hospital, Privos presided over the rosary for

1231
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis his health and Saint Peter Square on March third.

1232
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so again, it's not like your boy came out

1233
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 4>of nowhere. He's been at the Vatican for quite some

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01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.000
<v Speaker 4>time and he had quite a long history as far

1235
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.760
<v Speaker 4>as this goes. Now, let's talk a little bit more

1236
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.519
<v Speaker 4>about his background with the Augustinian Order here, because some

1237
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.800
<v Speaker 4>of his former friar brothers called him brother Bob. Yeah,

1238
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 4>old Bobert himself, and apparently everybody that knew him, even

1239
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 4>his brothers. There's so many different interviews with his brothers.

1240
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 4>He's got two of them, and they all say great

1241
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 4>things about him. Everybody says how just solid of a

1242
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.000
<v Speaker 4>guy he was. Let's listen into more.

1243
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.880
<v Speaker 6>It's here in our area there is growing interest to

1244
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.880
<v Speaker 6>learn more about the pope and his plans for his

1245
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.360
<v Speaker 6>papacy's shedding some light on that. A friar from the

1246
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 6>Bronx who has known and worked with Pope Leo for

1247
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.280
<v Speaker 6>more than two decades, I would have seen supporter Anthony

1248
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 6>Carlo Is outside Saint Nicholas of Tolentine in University Heights

1249
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.559
<v Speaker 6>with that part of our coverage.

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01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:17.439
<v Speaker 8>Anthony wells long before Pope Leo the fourteenth was elevated

1251
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.520
<v Speaker 8>to pontiff, and even long before he was bishop, he

1252
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.359
<v Speaker 8>was a priest and a friar. In fact, as you mentioned,

1253
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.680
<v Speaker 8>a couple of friars. His fellow friars reside here at

1254
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 8>Saint Nicholas of Tolentine in the Bronx. They tell me

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<v Speaker 8>they never expected to see one of their own hold

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<v Speaker 8>the highest position in the Catholic Church. But they told

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<v Speaker 8>me this is the greatest moment of their lives. When

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<v Speaker 8>Pope Leo the fourteenth emerged, he was shrouded in mystery

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<v Speaker 8>for so many Catholics, eager to know more about the

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<v Speaker 8>new leader of their church. But for Father Luis Vera

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<v Speaker 8>at Saint Nicholas of Tolentine in the Bronx, it was

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<v Speaker 8>like seeing an old friend.

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<v Speaker 12>When I heard his name, I shocked, and then when

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<v Speaker 12>he came out to the balcony, it was seeing it

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<v Speaker 12>was like seeing your brother, your relative.

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<v Speaker 8>That's because Father Vera has known Pope Leo for twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five years. Both friars Pope Leo formerly Father Robert Prevost

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<v Speaker 8>served as the head of the Augustinian Order.

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<v Speaker 12>We sat together at the same table. He has a

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<v Speaker 12>great sense of humor. He loves that friendship and that

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<v Speaker 12>unity among the brothers. He is one of us.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a son of Saint Augustin some of Pope Leo

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<v Speaker 8>the fourteenth first words appealing directly to his roots.

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<v Speaker 12>We walk together, we journey together. I think that will

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<v Speaker 12>be the message that he will give to all of us.

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<v Speaker 8>A picture of the first us born Pope placed with

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<v Speaker 8>pride in Saint Joseph's seminary in yonkers.

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<v Speaker 13>Warriman to the Father and to the Son and to

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<v Speaker 13>the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 8>Where Salvatore Soma is studying to become a priest.

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<v Speaker 13>To you know, understand American culture and the American situation

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<v Speaker 13>and you know American Catholicism and stuff like that. It's

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<v Speaker 13>really it's I mean, it's really amazing, you know, to

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<v Speaker 13>have a pope that I can look to and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 13>he understand where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 8>Vocations to the priesthood have steadily declined in the US

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<v Speaker 8>from nearly sixty thousand in nineteen sixty five to just

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<v Speaker 8>thirty three thousand, five hundred and eighty nine in twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty four, but that Father Vera says could change.

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<v Speaker 3>It might.

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<v Speaker 12>Wakeman up to think about something they hadn't even been

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<v Speaker 12>thinking about, because suddenly now you encounter it.

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<v Speaker 3>A moment in history.

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<v Speaker 8>Father Verus there tells me when he was in the

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<v Speaker 8>seminary back in the eighties, he said there were so

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<v Speaker 8>called Pope John Paul the second Seminarians who were inspired

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<v Speaker 8>by the Pope at that time to enter the priesthood.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll see if Pope Leo the fourteenth has the same impact.

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<v Speaker 8>But we do know that he taught for some years

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<v Speaker 8>in the seminary, so he certainly understands discernment and vocations.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so from former brothers of his, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>realize that he actually taught at the seminary school, so

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<v Speaker 4>he was teaching dudes how to become priests. Like I mean,

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01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 4>he he has no slouch in the ways and the knowledge,

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01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:23.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he seems pretty well read. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he seems to be liked by the people that were

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<v Speaker 2>around him. Okay, Well, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this is a quick thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's his This is the new Pope's devotion to Saint Augustine.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a it's a quick little video here, but

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<v Speaker 4>it also is from a few years back, but they

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01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.039
<v Speaker 4>just kind of resurfaced now talking about what he feels

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<v Speaker 4>as far as the Augustine way, if you will, so

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<v Speaker 4>no onfilio. Okay, So I'm just gonna read it here

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01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 4>because he had he came out and started it in English,

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<v Speaker 4>then he moved into Italian, and then he spoke in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 4>So it says, I am a son of Saint Augustine

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<v Speaker 4>and Augustinian who once said with you, I am a

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<v Speaker 4>Christian for you, I am a bishop, which I like

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01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:20.520
<v Speaker 4>that personally is nice, sounds nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So typically do Catholics consider themselves Christians? I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was yes. Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Most and by most I mean like ninety nine percent

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01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:38.199
<v Speaker 4>of Catholics acknowledge that they are Christians. Okay, so basically,

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<v Speaker 4>if you acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God,

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<v Speaker 4>and that he died on the cross and rose again

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01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:45.399
<v Speaker 4>and walked the earth, and he is still living to

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<v Speaker 4>this day, then you acknowledge yourself to be a Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>I have heard Catholics say that, no, I'm a Catholic,

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01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a Christian because they think that Christian means

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<v Speaker 4>a Protestant title, even though that's not correct.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're more proud of the Catholic title than they

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<v Speaker 2>are of the Christian title, it seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So anyway, it says in this spirit, maybe all

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01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.800
<v Speaker 4>walk together toward that homeland that God has prepared for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Typical pope speak, I would think.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I like it. I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's trying to get the people, get the people going, oh,

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01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:25.479
<v Speaker 4>here we are.

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<v Speaker 14>One of the reasons that The Confessions continues to be

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<v Speaker 14>one of the widest read books in the history of

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<v Speaker 14>the world is precisely because of Augustine's insight into human experience,

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<v Speaker 14>and he does a magnificent job of communicating both his

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01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:49.760
<v Speaker 14>own experience and what he lived, and how that experience

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01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.600
<v Speaker 14>can indeed be a window, if you will, an opening

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01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 14>to discovering a personal experience of God.

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick, just for everybody who's listening instead of watching.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're hearing now is the current Pope circa twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twelve speaking about Saint Augustine's This is actually him himself

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<v Speaker 4>speaking in English now.

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<v Speaker 14>In human life, Augustin and the Confessions talks about friendship,

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01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.439
<v Speaker 14>talks about family, talks about the importance of his mother,

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01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.079
<v Speaker 14>talks about his father, talks about human ambition, talks about

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01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:24.439
<v Speaker 14>so many different aspects of human life, and then goes

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<v Speaker 14>on to explain how these things helped or did not

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<v Speaker 14>help his own personal pathway to discovering God and to

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<v Speaker 14>discovering what He is really holy about life. In the

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<v Speaker 14>highly individualistic society that people are growing up in, people

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<v Speaker 14>think that my experience is the criteria. Am I happy

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<v Speaker 14>or I'm not happy? What that might really be is

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01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:01.800
<v Speaker 14>do I feel pleasure or don't I feel pleasure? Or

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<v Speaker 14>do I feel selfish? And if I feel okay, then

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<v Speaker 14>that's all that matters. Certainly, Augustine's experience says that, well

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<v Speaker 14>that isn't enough, and maybe what you're calling happiness isn't

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<v Speaker 14>authentic happiness because you're going to lose that too. And

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<v Speaker 14>most things that people seem to describe as well, why

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<v Speaker 14>are you happy today are things that are either very

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<v Speaker 14>superficial or at best important for a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 14>but that aren't going to last forever. And Augustine gives

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<v Speaker 14>some insight into helping people understand that having an experience

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<v Speaker 14>of God brings you far beyond yourself, and that how

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<v Speaker 14>an authentic experience of happiness has to include other people

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<v Speaker 14>and has to include being concerned about other people, and

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01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:51.279
<v Speaker 14>those are elements that express, I think a very important

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<v Speaker 14>part of the gospel message. It's not just about me

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01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:56.960
<v Speaker 14>and my experience of God either. You might have people say, oh,

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01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:59.279
<v Speaker 14>I have an experience of God and I don't have

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<v Speaker 14>to do anything else. Well, then that's probably not an

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<v Speaker 14>authentic experience of God, because, as we know from the Gospels,

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<v Speaker 14>as we know from the Apostolic letters, if you love God,

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<v Speaker 14>then you also need to be showing that by loving

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<v Speaker 14>your neighbor, and that the two go hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so again, as far as who the guy is,

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<v Speaker 4>the background of him, he seems like a solid jent

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01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, seems like a proper, proper priestly type dude.

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<v Speaker 4>He's out here doing the right things for the right reasons,

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01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:30.239
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's as popey as popes get.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, well, at that point he was still a priest.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I see what you mean. That's but that's

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<v Speaker 4>the background to him, you know. So, oht on as

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01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 4>soon as this ad stops, all right, So I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to pull this up because I thought it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a super short conclave, or so I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>So I also looked up it was this the shortest

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01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:59.159
<v Speaker 4>conclave ever? Two days? Like that seems crazy. They went

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<v Speaker 4>into conclave in the afternoon. The following afternoon, they had

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<v Speaker 4>a pope. Like that's got to be some kind of

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01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:08.840
<v Speaker 4>a record or something. Come to find out, not so much,

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01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.039
<v Speaker 4>but I find it interesting all the Well.

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<v Speaker 15>Fourteenth is the first ever American to lead the Catholic Church.

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01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:15.960
<v Speaker 15>But this conclave felt really short.

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<v Speaker 2>So how short was it?

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01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 15>Could it be the shortest ever? Well, it's definitely, well

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<v Speaker 15>the shortest in history, but not the shortest. Here's where

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<v Speaker 15>this conclave ranks among the quickest in history. So one

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<v Speaker 15>thirty three cardinals elected a new Pope lead to fourteenth

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01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 15>on the fourth ballot on day two.

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<v Speaker 4>One thirty three, one hundred and thirty three cardinals elected him.

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01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, do you remember that number we said earlier

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01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:42.399
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred and thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're telling me five dudes out of one hundred

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01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:51.840
<v Speaker 4>and thirty eight said somebody else. One hundred and thirty

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01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:54.239
<v Speaker 4>three of the one hundred and thirty eight said this

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01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 4>is the guy on day two.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think that the scripted things don't take time.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah yes, making up was being put down, sir.

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01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Anybody remember how fast that COVID vaccine came out.

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01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:11.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, just siying. Anyway, let's continue here. So

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<v Speaker 4>that was the fourth ballot on day two. Also important

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<v Speaker 4>to keep in mind as we listen to more of these.

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<v Speaker 15>According to Vatican News, the shortest conclave ever that was

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<v Speaker 15>back in fifteen oh three, right after Pope Pious third died,

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<v Speaker 15>Hope Julius the Second was elected after just a few hours.

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<v Speaker 15>He's known as the Warrior Pope, launching military campaigns and

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<v Speaker 15>starting the rebuilding of Saint Peter's Basilica. Now to more

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<v Speaker 15>recent examples, in two thousand and five, Pope Addict the

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<v Speaker 15>sixteenth was chosen on the fourth ballots also on day.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, fourth ballot, Day two, that was Pope Benedict. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that stepped down. The second pope in history

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<v Speaker 4>to ever step down.

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<v Speaker 3>Was elected as fast as this guy was. Okay, interesting

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01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:51.920
<v Speaker 3>to bring up. Also, this dude.

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<v Speaker 15>In nineteen thirty nine, right before World War Two, Hope

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<v Speaker 15>Pious to twelfth was elected on the third ballot again on.

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<v Speaker 4>Day two two to that pope that was elected. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy that helped Nazis escape through rat lines to Argentina.

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01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:07.479
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>So he was elected very quickly as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, okay, you said he helped Nazis or

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01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:16.239
<v Speaker 2>he helped people escape from Nazis.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he helped the Nazis, the guys that were murdering

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<v Speaker 4>the Jews. He helped them escape to Argentina and Brazil

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01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:24.600
<v Speaker 4>through rat lines. That was all funded through the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the pope that they just said.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a pope that helps Nazis escape, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have the first ever pope to step down,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you have this guy all elected on the

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<v Speaker 2>second day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, interesting enough that the guy I'm talking about, if

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<v Speaker 4>anybody wants to look it up. Pope Pious the seventh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, that's the twelfth, Pope Pious the twelfth. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want to know an entire, entire rabbit hole to

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<v Speaker 4>go down to. We've talked about Project paper Clip numerous times.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked about the Nazi and bohem mean colonies that

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<v Speaker 4>are all over South America.

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<v Speaker 3>There's over like fifty of.

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<v Speaker 4>These people who are all super German, whose great grandfathers

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<v Speaker 4>and grandfathers all came here with Nazi memorabilia and SS

1463
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.680
<v Speaker 4>things on their collars, in the whole nine. And yes,

1464
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.159
<v Speaker 4>we at the Cult of Conspiracy do believe that Hitler

1465
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:18.720
<v Speaker 4>did escape to South America.

1466
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a thing that we believe in here.

1467
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a foregone conclusion, to be honest.

1468
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Helped them do it. Yeah, wait, what did you say?

1469
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:28.279
<v Speaker 2>No, I said, it's kind of like a foregone conclusion

1470
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>to me that he escaped to Argentina, that he didn't

1471
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>die in Germany.

1472
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:36.239
<v Speaker 4>There's still people that argue that point, and it blows

1473
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.680
<v Speaker 4>my mind, like it's there's so many documentaries and so

1474
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:41.479
<v Speaker 4>much actual facts on this.

1475
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:44.359
<v Speaker 2>But you know, well, whatever, those are the same people

1476
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that believe Middle Easterners took down the Twin Towers.

1477
01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Fair, fair point.

1478
01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, anybody want to look set up on their

1479
01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:55.239
<v Speaker 4>own Pope Pious the twelfth and his ties to Nazis's

1480
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:57.640
<v Speaker 4>it's a good, fascinating little deep die.

1481
01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:00.319
<v Speaker 15>But let's keep going on the third ballot again on

1482
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:02.279
<v Speaker 15>day two. So yeah, this one was definitely one of

1483
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:04.520
<v Speaker 15>the shorter ones in history. On the flip side, though,

1484
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:07.199
<v Speaker 15>the longest comeclave ever back into twelve hundreds, it took

1485
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:11.000
<v Speaker 15>almost three years. People were so frustrated they literally ripped

1486
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.840
<v Speaker 15>the roof off and fed cardinals only bread and water

1487
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 15>until they made the decision. And thankfully, conclaves in recent

1488
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:19.199
<v Speaker 15>decades have been lasting a shorter amount of time, typically

1489
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:20.359
<v Speaker 15>taking two to three days.

1490
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so there you go, and that is the backstory here.

1491
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:27.000
<v Speaker 4>There's more to that longest conclave in history, but we're

1492
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.359
<v Speaker 4>not going to get into all of that. Is it's

1493
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 4>pretty funny. These dudes could not agree, and there was

1494
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 4>a lot of infighting and political reasons for all of this.

1495
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:39.800
<v Speaker 4>Then the people, not the other priests, not the no no, no,

1496
01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.079
<v Speaker 4>the people got together and barricaded the doors and ripped

1497
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 4>off the roof and literally fed them bread and water

1498
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.640
<v Speaker 4>and started cutting back on the amount of bread and water.

1499
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Until they made a decision.

1500
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.239
<v Speaker 4>Because at that time the Pope Hoole hailed a lot

1501
01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:54.920
<v Speaker 4>of sway as far as the royal families were concerned

1502
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:57.600
<v Speaker 4>and all of those things. So it was a religious position,

1503
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.239
<v Speaker 4>but way more of a political position at that time

1504
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.720
<v Speaker 4>as well. But anyway, and that's the that was when

1505
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Gregory the tenth was elected pope. If anybody wants to

1506
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:09.960
<v Speaker 4>look into that history deep dive as well. Now I

1507
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 4>found this website here. This is the College of Cardinals

1508
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.920
<v Speaker 4>report dot com. And yeah, it goes into a lot

1509
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:20.119
<v Speaker 4>of his background and the things and the stuff, but

1510
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:22.520
<v Speaker 4>we also see a little bit of his voting status

1511
01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:27.760
<v Speaker 4>and his sway and opinions on certain important topics for

1512
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.680
<v Speaker 4>the day and age here. So he was born uh

1513
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:34.039
<v Speaker 4>September fourteenth, nineteen fifty five. He is currently sixty nine

1514
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:37.119
<v Speaker 4>years old. Again, that means that he literally has the

1515
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:39.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, of course, pope is a position that people

1516
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:41.840
<v Speaker 4>typically die in, except for two examples of them not

1517
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:44.039
<v Speaker 4>So he's going to be in this position for a

1518
01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:47.079
<v Speaker 4>very long time unless you know, something happens and his

1519
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:49.880
<v Speaker 4>health fails. We already talked a little bit about his

1520
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:54.560
<v Speaker 4>background with his you know, his college and his friarship,

1521
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:56.800
<v Speaker 4>and then his priesthood and then his bishopship and then

1522
01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.399
<v Speaker 4>his archbishopship when he was created.

1523
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Cardinal, all of the things.

1524
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:05.960
<v Speaker 4>So let's just jump on down to where he stands

1525
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:11.439
<v Speaker 4>on ordaining female deacons. He is opposed to this, Okay,

1526
01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:13.479
<v Speaker 4>So even still, while there's women that are holding up

1527
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:17.840
<v Speaker 4>banners saying ordain women outside of Saint Peter's Basilica right now,

1528
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.800
<v Speaker 4>he is still vehemently saying women don't belong there.

1529
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:23.479
<v Speaker 2>For the next ten to twenty years, least.

1530
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:29.000
<v Speaker 4>At least at least blessing same sex couples, he actually has.

1531
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Gone more in favor, like Pope Francis has.

1532
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.680
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying that they're gonna have gay marriages

1533
01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 4>and Catholic churches, but they're also willing to acknowledge them

1534
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.720
<v Speaker 4>within the Catholic faith. That's kind of a biggie, especially

1535
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:48.479
<v Speaker 4>with the modern staunchness of Catholic people. Okay, Yes, there

1536
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 4>are certain countries that that's gonna be seen very positively,

1537
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:52.680
<v Speaker 4>and there are certain countries that's going.

1538
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 3>To be seen very negatively.

1539
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.119
<v Speaker 4>So as far as that goes, I don't believe that

1540
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.279
<v Speaker 4>this is a thing that oh, tons of popes been

1541
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.399
<v Speaker 4>like that in the past. Francis was kind of the first.

1542
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:05.760
<v Speaker 4>And this guy, as they're saying, is going to be

1543
01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:07.479
<v Speaker 4>a Francis two point zero.

1544
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.039
<v Speaker 3>It's starting to look that way.

1545
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just from Chicago, you know he is.

1546
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:18.079
<v Speaker 4>But also Charlie Kirk posted on x a print out

1547
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:21.680
<v Speaker 4>or not print out a snapshot of your boy Robert

1548
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Prevost now pop leo his voting record. He's a registered

1549
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Speaker 4>Republican and a pretty die hard Republican voter. As a

1550
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:32.479
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, throughout the years where he did vote

1551
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:34.439
<v Speaker 4>in America. Yes, we lived in Peru, he didn't vote

1552
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:37.119
<v Speaker 4>bah bah blah. But while he was living in America,

1553
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't think there was one vote that he actually

1554
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:41.079
<v Speaker 4>threw a dal on there.

1555
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 3>It was all ours.

1556
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.680
<v Speaker 4>So I'm wondering if his time in Peru swayed him

1557
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:48.399
<v Speaker 4>a bit. I'm wondering if his position in the Catholic

1558
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Church swayed him a bit. I'm wondering if Francis got

1559
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 4>into his head with his liberal bullshit and kind of

1560
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:56.359
<v Speaker 4>turned him in that regard. I don't know, but let's

1561
01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:01.199
<v Speaker 4>keep going here making priestly celibacy op Schnel. This is

1562
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:03.840
<v Speaker 4>a thing that has been brought up before because I

1563
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.039
<v Speaker 4>feel like you would have a lot more dudes going

1564
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:08.520
<v Speaker 4>to be priests if they were allowed to be married.

1565
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and yeah, we're not talking about having like

1566
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>some pimps out there. It's just like a guy who

1567
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>marries a woman and you know they make divine coitus.

1568
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:22.039
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, I like that you said that that way too,

1569
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.600
<v Speaker 4>right within the sanctity of marriage to people be fucking

1570
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.359
<v Speaker 4>as they can and should. The Bible says to do it.

1571
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Matter of fact, for everybody out there listening. The Bible's

1572
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.319
<v Speaker 4>very clear about this, like you and your spouse need

1573
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:36.279
<v Speaker 4>to be having lots of sex, like lots of it.

1574
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:39.119
<v Speaker 4>It actually says to never withhold sex from your spouse

1575
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.039
<v Speaker 4>except for during a time of fasting.

1576
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:43.399
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

1577
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.439
<v Speaker 4>That's clearly it, and I want that to go on record.

1578
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:51.840
<v Speaker 4>People need to know this. God wants married people to

1579
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:53.920
<v Speaker 4>have sex with each other. Like I know, that's a

1580
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.359
<v Speaker 4>crazy thing that people might not know, but you need

1581
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.560
<v Speaker 4>to hear it. So if nowhere else you're gonna hear

1582
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 4>it on the fucking cult conspiracy anyway, Yeah, buddy, restricting

1583
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:08.600
<v Speaker 4>the Vedas Ordo, the old Latin Mass. He doesn't really

1584
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 4>say one way or another on this. I know a

1585
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:12.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of people are hoping that he brings back the

1586
01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:15.439
<v Speaker 4>Latin Mass. I don't know if he's gonna because Francis

1587
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:18.279
<v Speaker 4>could have been, should have en, didn't. But whatever Vatican

1588
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:23.640
<v Speaker 4>China secret accords. So that one's kind of an interesting one.

1589
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:28.319
<v Speaker 4>So China has a nationwide rule against religions, right, the

1590
01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:32.439
<v Speaker 4>Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, as we always bring up,

1591
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:35.239
<v Speaker 4>and I will bring up until the day I die.

1592
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump don't trust China.

1593
01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:37.920
<v Speaker 3>China is ass hoo.

1594
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that that just needs to be said as

1595
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:42.079
<v Speaker 4>often as humanly possible.

1596
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Did you just never exit out that clip or did

1597
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:44.720
<v Speaker 2>you pull it?

1598
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Never? Will I ever? Never will I ever.

1599
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm still finding a way of how I'm gonna put

1600
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:50.920
<v Speaker 4>it on audio and put it on my soundboard. I

1601
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:52.880
<v Speaker 4>gotta call the road cast people to see how to

1602
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 4>do that, or read the manual, but you know I

1603
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 4>don't be liking to read. But anyway, beside the point,

1604
01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:04.439
<v Speaker 4>So China has thrown so many priests into prison, okay,

1605
01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 4>and I mean it's not just Catholic priests. Pretty much

1606
01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:10.199
<v Speaker 4>anybody that goes to China for missions work has to

1607
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:14.199
<v Speaker 4>go super undercovered because if you're shown it by anybody

1608
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:18.359
<v Speaker 4>that you are preaching or spreading religious doctrine in China,

1609
01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:21.279
<v Speaker 4>you're realistically either going to be killed or get life

1610
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:21.680
<v Speaker 4>in prison.

1611
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll get down with religion out there, more philosophy driven,

1612
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>like they get down with Daoism and shit like that.

1613
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>But as far as religion goes, nah, not.

1614
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:33.840
<v Speaker 3>So much, not so much.

1615
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Right, So the Vatican China Secret Accords, seeing if he

1616
01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:40.479
<v Speaker 4>and g got a little backdoor deal, burning still a

1617
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:46.199
<v Speaker 4>question mark on that one. Promoting a synatical or snodal church. Okay,

1618
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 4>now what is the evidence for this? Prevas is a

1619
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:53.920
<v Speaker 4>strong supporter of sindality, probably mispronouncing that he has been

1620
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:57.279
<v Speaker 4>described as a vocal proponent of Pope Francis's emphasis on

1621
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:05.279
<v Speaker 4>making the church structure more inclusive and participsy seeing sidnatality, siddonality.

1622
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sidnality, what side anality, it looks like sidonality.

1623
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>There you go. As a way to address polarization within

1624
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:12.359
<v Speaker 3>the church.

1625
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:17.520
<v Speaker 4>He connects signedality with the need for consultation and lay involvement.

1626
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Speaker 4>So he's trying to make it way more inclusive, and

1627
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:28.159
<v Speaker 4>by that they do mean the multi gender, the same

1628
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:32.000
<v Speaker 4>sex marriage, all these things. He's for including more people

1629
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:35.840
<v Speaker 4>into the church, which I understand because Catholic attendance in America,

1630
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.720
<v Speaker 4>not across the entire world, but in America is on

1631
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the downtick. It is taking off in Africa and in

1632
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:47.520
<v Speaker 4>South America right now. And mark my words, we will

1633
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:51.479
<v Speaker 4>see a revival in the Asian countries probably within the

1634
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:54.960
<v Speaker 4>next fifteen years. China maybe, but I'm also seeing the

1635
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:56.680
<v Speaker 4>other ones as well, but that seems to be the

1636
01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:58.520
<v Speaker 4>next place where it's going to like pop off. We'll

1637
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 4>see focusing on climate change. Yeah, your boy believes in

1638
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:09.319
<v Speaker 4>global warming, because that's a whole thing. Uh renaissance reassessing

1639
01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:11.199
<v Speaker 4>human tae vite.

1640
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't know exactly what these words mean, but no.

1641
01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Question mark on that one. A communion for divorced and

1642
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.600
<v Speaker 4>remarried people. So as of right now, if you are

1643
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:22.239
<v Speaker 4>divorced and remarried, you cannot be taken up the sacraments

1644
01:29:22.239 --> 01:29:23.159
<v Speaker 4>in the Catholic Church.

1645
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:29.399
<v Speaker 3>That's a thing, right, Yeah, So.

1646
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>They restrict people getting married a second time essentially, is

1647
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:34.159
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying.

1648
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:36.880
<v Speaker 4>You can get remarried, but you're not going to be

1649
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.680
<v Speaker 4>taking up the bread and wine. Okay, yeah, they are

1650
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.039
<v Speaker 4>going to be taking the Eucharist if you're a divorcee.

1651
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:48.399
<v Speaker 4>That's a thing U. Catholics look very very frowned upon

1652
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:50.359
<v Speaker 4>with the divorcing and things.

1653
01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I wish they felt that way about preest diddling kids,

1654
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean whatever.

1655
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:59.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh, put a pin in that one, brother, because I

1656
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.439
<v Speaker 4>wish we didn't have to talk about that today. I

1657
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 4>didn't even know that we get boy's been in office

1658
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:08.359
<v Speaker 4>for less than a week and he's already being smacked

1659
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:10.319
<v Speaker 4>with accusations as we speak.

1660
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>M now no himself. Can we just be can we

1661
01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>just be real here? And I'm not saying that this

1662
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>is right by any means, but do you think the

1663
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:25.399
<v Speaker 2>reason why priests are often touching choir boys or whatever

1664
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>they are, the the the youthful males of the church.

1665
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you think the reason do you think that that

1666
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>would possibly go away if they were allowed to have

1667
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:38.479
<v Speaker 2>a wife and you know, have sex with their wives

1668
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>or you know. I'm not I'm not saying that it's

1669
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>a it's a it's a good alternative by any means.

1670
01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that, like I I would imagine that

1671
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they have a lot of energy that has been pent

1672
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>up and they they give it to the little boys

1673
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:54.239
<v Speaker 2>over there.

1674
01:30:55.560 --> 01:31:01.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, I would like to believe that, yes, if

1675
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.399
<v Speaker 4>clergymen in the Catholic faith were allowed to take wives,

1676
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:11.239
<v Speaker 4>that a lot of the abuse would stop. That being said,

1677
01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:15.720
<v Speaker 4>how many coaches have you heard of that were abusing

1678
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:17.479
<v Speaker 4>their athletes that were also married?

1679
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, boy scouts as.

1680
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, exactly exactly right.

1681
01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 4>So, and I'm not saying that just because somebody is

1682
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.760
<v Speaker 4>a priest that instantly that means that they are like

1683
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.800
<v Speaker 4>pedophilic in nature. The ratios are the ratios on that though,

1684
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:34.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like you're more likely than not.

1685
01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>It's like, and I hate that too.

1686
01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:38.279
<v Speaker 4>It's like saying you're a Scout leader for your son's

1687
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:42.159
<v Speaker 4>boy Scout troupe. Ratios being what they are, you're statistically

1688
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:44.319
<v Speaker 4>more likely to be a.

1689
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Pedophile. I'm trying to find a better word to say it,

1690
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:49.279
<v Speaker 3>but yeah.

1691
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:53.279
<v Speaker 4>A kid diddler right that being said, dude, monsters are everywhere.

1692
01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I wish that the Catholic Church would do justice by

1693
01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 4>these victims and scorched the earth whenever one of these

1694
01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 4>things happen, if for nothing else to save your own face,

1695
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:10.079
<v Speaker 4>but instead they keep cutting off the nose to spite

1696
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:13.239
<v Speaker 4>their own fucking face. It's a problem, it really is.

1697
01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:16.600
<v Speaker 4>But we're going to get to that because I'm not

1698
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 4>saying that Pope Leo has any accusations against himself as

1699
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:21.760
<v Speaker 4>far as he is concerned. But there are some accusations

1700
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 4>of him turning a blind eye more than a few times,

1701
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:28.399
<v Speaker 4>and that's already come to light. But anyway, so now

1702
01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>this article kind of gets more into the realm of

1703
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.319
<v Speaker 4>why it is such a big deal that an American

1704
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:37.640
<v Speaker 4>is now the pope. So let's talk about it here

1705
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:38.159
<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

1706
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, would like me to reader, No, No, I

1707
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>just I just was thinking about something else. Anyway. It

1708
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>says of the two hundred and sixty six popes who

1709
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>have led the Catholic Church, not one of them had

1710
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:55.359
<v Speaker 2>been from the United States until Thursday. The cardinal electors

1711
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:59.560
<v Speaker 2>gathered for the papal conclave elected an American from among

1712
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 2>their own ranks on Thursday to serve as the new pontiff.

1713
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Chicago born Cardinal Robert Privos was elected and accepted his

1714
01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>fate as the next Bishop of Rome, leader of the

1715
01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>world's one point four billion Catholics. He chose Leo the

1716
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth as his papal name, while the relative youth of

1717
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.479
<v Speaker 2>the nation. Fewer than twenty of the church's previous popes

1718
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>had served after the US declaration of independence in seventeen

1719
01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>seventy six. One prominent US bishop offered a possible explanation

1720
01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 2>for the lack of an American leader of the world's

1721
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Catholics a day before his election. Robert Baron, bishop of

1722
01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the Diocese of Winona, Rochester and Minnesota, was appointed less

1723
01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:38.439
<v Speaker 2>than a week ago by President Trump to the new

1724
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>White House Commission on Religious Liberty. This week, however, he

1725
01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:45.199
<v Speaker 2>was at the Vatican with hundreds of other prelates as

1726
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:50.399
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinal elector gatherer gatherer for the conclave to choose

1727
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.399
<v Speaker 2>a new pontiff. Baron spent days speaking with the cardinals,

1728
01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>including one hundred and thirty three cardinal electors tasked with

1729
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the electing with electing the new pope, as they tried

1730
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:01.399
<v Speaker 2>to figure out among them elves who would be best

1731
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to lead the church.

1732
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:07.159
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, indeed, now this is a direct quote from him,

1733
01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:10.760
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like this needs to be touched.

1734
01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:10.920
<v Speaker 3>On a bit.

1735
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Cardinal George of Chicago of happy memory was one of

1736
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>my great mentors. And he said, look, until America goes

1737
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:20.439
<v Speaker 2>into political decline, there won't be an American pope. And

1738
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>his point was, if America is kind of running the

1739
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want they don't want

1740
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:30.399
<v Speaker 2>America running the world religiously. So I think there's some

1741
01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:33.079
<v Speaker 2>truth to that that we're such a superpower and so

1742
01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>dominant that they don't want to give us also control

1743
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>over the church.

1744
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:40.319
<v Speaker 3>That let's talk.

1745
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Who said this.

1746
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:46.359
<v Speaker 4>This was a cardinal George of Chicago, Okay, So I

1747
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:47.000
<v Speaker 4>don't know.

1748
01:34:47.359 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was that's right, Okay, So with that okay, or.

1749
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:52.960
<v Speaker 4>The guy who was saying it was his Barren dude,

1750
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:56.199
<v Speaker 4>but he was saying that this was cardinal from him.

1751
01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's a out of truth in what he

1752
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:04.720
<v Speaker 3>just said. Okay, America.

1753
01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:06.520
<v Speaker 4>And yes, I know people from other countries are going

1754
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.840
<v Speaker 4>to disagree with this, agree to disagree.

1755
01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:11.279
<v Speaker 3>It is what it is. The numbers of the numbers.

1756
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Read a book.

1757
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, America does run the world politically, culturally, and economically.

1758
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1759
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:20.159
<v Speaker 4>And if you don't believe that, Trump throws some tariffs

1760
01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:22.239
<v Speaker 4>on and all of a sudden, the world shuts down.

1761
01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.960
<v Speaker 4>If France through tariffs on half the world, right now,

1762
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 4>do you think anyone would give a fuck?

1763
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Eh?

1764
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Not really, that's my point. Okay, we would just make

1765
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:37.439
<v Speaker 2>freedom fries. Remember when we did that, there was French

1766
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:39.159
<v Speaker 2>fries and then we had some shit going on with

1767
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>France and then we were all freedom fries.

1768
01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Believe it or not, France, French fries don't even come

1769
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:48.359
<v Speaker 4>from France. That's a whole thing. That's a yeah, it's well.

1770
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I imagine that a French kiss doesn't come from France either.

1771
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.199
<v Speaker 4>I think an Australian kiss does. Though, what is that

1772
01:35:55.560 --> 01:36:00.279
<v Speaker 4>It's like a French kiss but down under? Ah, but

1773
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:02.479
<v Speaker 4>I do think that actually gets it's you know, if

1774
01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:05.319
<v Speaker 4>you want to contechnicle, I feel like Parisians, those from

1775
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Paris kind of started though, kind of lingis and could

1776
01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:08.600
<v Speaker 4>be wrong on that.

1777
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I guess right.

1778
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:17.119
<v Speaker 4>So, all right, he's saying that as long as America

1779
01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:20.920
<v Speaker 4>is running the reins on the world, why would the

1780
01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:23.319
<v Speaker 4>popes or why would the cardinals want an American to

1781
01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:26.039
<v Speaker 4>run the Catholic Church as well? They wanted to at

1782
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:30.520
<v Speaker 4>least hold some sort of power over something European. Your boy,

1783
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Pope Francis kind of shafted the spectrum on that a

1784
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.520
<v Speaker 4>little bit. He was the first non European pope to

1785
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:39.800
<v Speaker 4>be elected. They argue an African won at one point

1786
01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 4>in time, but again it's different day and age, different conversation.

1787
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:49.600
<v Speaker 4>My point being, for over a thousand years, no dude

1788
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:53.279
<v Speaker 4>outside of Europe has ever sat in the seat. So

1789
01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:57.600
<v Speaker 4>when Francis took that spot, it was shocking, like earth

1790
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:03.000
<v Speaker 4>shattering to a lot of Catholics. Now an American, a

1791
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:05.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of people are pissed about this. A lot of

1792
01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:07.439
<v Speaker 4>Americans are super stoked about it. And I mean rightfully,

1793
01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:09.680
<v Speaker 4>so you know what I mean, Merca, it'd be like that,

1794
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:10.079
<v Speaker 4>I get it.

1795
01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Fuck yeah.

1796
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:16.159
<v Speaker 4>But the pride of it, right that being said, it's

1797
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:20.760
<v Speaker 4>a if what he is saying is true. If America

1798
01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.159
<v Speaker 4>is kind of the run of the world politically, culturally, economically,

1799
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:26.399
<v Speaker 4>all these things. He is saying that, look, until America

1800
01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:31.520
<v Speaker 4>goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.

1801
01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Now as these secret College of Cardinals meets up and

1802
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:38.319
<v Speaker 4>has their votings in all these things, and they elected

1803
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:44.439
<v Speaker 4>an American dude that fucking fast. This makes me wonder, Jonathan,

1804
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:47.399
<v Speaker 4>my good sir, as I'm one to do from time

1805
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:51.159
<v Speaker 4>to time. Do they know something that we don't, because

1806
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:54.960
<v Speaker 4>as of this very moment, as of the election, America

1807
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:55.600
<v Speaker 4>is still.

1808
01:37:55.439 --> 01:37:57.399
<v Speaker 3>Running this shit pretty handily.

1809
01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.359
<v Speaker 4>But do they know a little something about something going

1810
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.039
<v Speaker 4>on in the world stage that maybe the American public

1811
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:07.119
<v Speaker 4>is not privy too, that perhaps we are about to

1812
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:08.560
<v Speaker 4>be on the decline.

1813
01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could have this guy could have just

1814
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:14.720
<v Speaker 2>that could have just been his opinion. I mean, he's

1815
01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 2>from he was a cardinal from Chicago. You know, that

1816
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>was probably a very tainted American pope or cardinal or

1817
01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>bishop or whatever. That's like, man, we're never gonna get

1818
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:27.359
<v Speaker 2>it because we're just big dick and everything.

1819
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:27.760
<v Speaker 8>You know.

1820
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.399
<v Speaker 2>That's how I could see that this.

1821
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Is very true. This is very true.

1822
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:37.680
<v Speaker 4>But again, dude, keep in mind those numbers on that vote,

1823
01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and thirty three out of one hundred and

1824
01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:44.359
<v Speaker 4>thirty eight. That wasn't like he barely got the two

1825
01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:48.439
<v Speaker 4>thirds majority. That was a sweep. Yeah, that was damn

1826
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:52.520
<v Speaker 4>near what's it called unanimous?

1827
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's a Grand Slammy type numbers

1828
01:38:56.720 --> 01:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>right there.

1829
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:02.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm just wondering if this might that we need to

1830
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:05.359
<v Speaker 4>brace for impact. I could be so wrong, and maybe

1831
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm being a bit of a pessimist here, but that's

1832
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:08.960
<v Speaker 4>what we do on this show. We look at the

1833
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:11.119
<v Speaker 4>glass half full, and we look at the glass half him.

1834
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Do we look at it from all sides?

1835
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Either that or because the Antichrist A lot of people

1836
01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:20.640
<v Speaker 2>believe that it's going to be coming from America, right

1837
01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>strictly because it's like the Horror of Babylon or some shit.

1838
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, we're definitely in the New Babylon. I'll give you.

1839
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That, right, and then you get an you get an

1840
01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>American from like, you know, basically the I don't even

1841
01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>know what you would say about that. I mean, would

1842
01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:41.399
<v Speaker 2>you say that he would be kind of like a

1843
01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:48.119
<v Speaker 2>demon of the Antichrist, a follower of a follower of

1844
01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the Antichrist? Possibly if we are to believe that whole story,

1845
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.119
<v Speaker 2>which I'm not gonna lie, I get it, I do

1846
01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:57.840
<v Speaker 2>get it. We you know, basically run this whole damn

1847
01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:00.760
<v Speaker 2>place and they say that, you know, this is the

1848
01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:02.520
<v Speaker 2>devil's playground called Earth right.

1849
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:05.800
<v Speaker 4>No doubt, Although I still don't think we are at

1850
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the point where the Antichrist is about to make his

1851
01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:11.439
<v Speaker 4>way known at this moment, possibly another five or ten years,

1852
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:14.359
<v Speaker 4>possibly in another one hundred years, like we don't actually know,

1853
01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:16.399
<v Speaker 4>possibly in a thousand years, we don't know.

1854
01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even actually, I don't even actually believe

1855
01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:21.840
<v Speaker 2>that the Antichrist is going to be a person.

1856
01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what old boy Abdullah al Sadi Hassani and

1857
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:28.319
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah says.

1858
01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:33.199
<v Speaker 4>It's America as in totality he is saying, is the Antichrist.

1859
01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, he takes way too many boner pills to be

1860
01:40:37.119 --> 01:40:40.439
<v Speaker 2>even talking. I think with all the boon tang that

1861
01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:42.760
<v Speaker 2>he's slain within his cold.

1862
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Followers willingly and against their will as it turns out,

1863
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:49.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's the whole thing making him getting abortions

1864
01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:52.800
<v Speaker 4>and shit, and somehow he still is allowed to operate.

1865
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:55.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's the thing, right so England being the uh

1866
01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:58.880
<v Speaker 4>sanctuary for people of the Islamic faith that they are

1867
01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:00.680
<v Speaker 4>right now, of course he's a allowed to have a

1868
01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 4>cult compound with two hundred people living in this place

1869
01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:06.960
<v Speaker 4>and it's just a whole rape fest in there because that's.

1870
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's just a part of their culture. You know.

1871
01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>We can't stop that. Well, yeah, that's because it's got

1872
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:12.079
<v Speaker 3>their own ship to deal with.

1873
01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:14.680
<v Speaker 2>That's because God wants me to have all the women.

1874
01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>God wants me to have a Bugotti. You know, like, uh,

1875
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>what was that movie from? It was like, oh shit,

1876
01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Kat Williams. It was another one of the

1877
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:26.199
<v Speaker 2>funny guys is the.

1878
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.560
<v Speaker 3>One where a little bow Wow wan oh as Mike.

1879
01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Caps, Yeah, wasn't my caps.

1880
01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:34.319
<v Speaker 4>It was bow Wow won the lottery and he goes

1881
01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:36.279
<v Speaker 4>to church that Sunday and like he don't want nobody

1882
01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:38.840
<v Speaker 4>know he's got the winning lottery ticket and the pastor

1883
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:41.520
<v Speaker 4>is straight up preaching to him, saying, the Lord wants

1884
01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:43.880
<v Speaker 4>me to have the women's he wants me to have

1885
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:44.520
<v Speaker 4>a Bugotti.

1886
01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like, bro, what that was a good one.

1887
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>That was a good movie. So anyhow he would you

1888
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 2>want me to continue reading here?

1889
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we might as well. Here it says what do

1890
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.479
<v Speaker 4>Catholics want in their next Pope. I don't know if

1891
01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:00.600
<v Speaker 4>this is absolutely true or not, if this is speaking

1892
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.920
<v Speaker 4>on behalf of all Catholics. This is from CBS News,

1893
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:05.359
<v Speaker 4>by the way, but I feel like, you know, me

1894
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:08.319
<v Speaker 4>not being a Catholic, you not being a Catholic. Maybe

1895
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:11.079
<v Speaker 4>they got a little insight from some people of the

1896
01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Catholic persuasion that spoke about what they hope this guy

1897
01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:14.840
<v Speaker 4>will bring to the table.

1898
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>So he was undoubtedly qualified as the only clear qualifications

1899
01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>for the role of pontiff are that candidates be male

1900
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:24.479
<v Speaker 2>and Roman Catholic. But emerging on top of the necessary

1901
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:28.199
<v Speaker 2>backing of just over two thirds of voting cardinal electors,

1902
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 2>electors required more than just eligibility. Originally from Chicago, Prevost

1903
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:36.399
<v Speaker 2>has been the head of the Church's dicastery for bishops.

1904
01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>The powerful position means he oversaw this election of new

1905
01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>bishops for any cardinal electors who may have been turned

1906
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>off by prevost American nationality. It's not his only one.

1907
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>He's a dual citizen, holding nationality in both the US

1908
01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>and Peru, where he served for many years.

1909
01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:56.359
<v Speaker 4>So you remember how we just said that Pope Francis

1910
01:42:57.199 --> 01:42:59.760
<v Speaker 4>put into the position, or did I tell you this

1911
01:42:59.800 --> 01:43:04.760
<v Speaker 4>part yet one hundred and thirty eight that went, oh yeah,

1912
01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>we talked about eighty percent. Eighty percent of the cardinals

1913
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:12.119
<v Speaker 4>that voted were put there by Francis himself. Right, This

1914
01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:15.680
<v Speaker 4>guy was in charge of raising priests to bishops who

1915
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:18.319
<v Speaker 4>could then be brought up to archbishops and cardinals in

1916
01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:19.279
<v Speaker 4>his next go round.

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01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.199
<v Speaker 3>So he is about to go through the process.

1918
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Of stacking the deck for his successor once the time comes,

1919
01:43:25.199 --> 01:43:28.119
<v Speaker 4>and he already laid the foundational groundwork for it before

1920
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:31.039
<v Speaker 4>he ever took the seat again. Almost like there was

1921
01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:32.079
<v Speaker 4>a plan afoot.

1922
01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me.

1923
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:38.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, name of business that's not built like a pyramid.

1924
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I was just saying, it's kind of funny

1925
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:42.319
<v Speaker 2>that it's a pyramid scheme, but it's the Vatican.

1926
01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:44.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd be like that dude, for sure.

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01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, the LGBTQ Catholics hope for inclusion under new pope,

1928
01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:52.680
<v Speaker 2>says well. Privost is seen as a is seen overall

1929
01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.520
<v Speaker 2>as a centrist. On some key social issues, he's viewed

1930
01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:58.760
<v Speaker 2>as progressive. He has long embraced marginalized groups a lot

1931
01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:01.720
<v Speaker 2>like Francis, who championed migrants and the poor, But also

1932
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:05.640
<v Speaker 2>like Pope Francis, the Illinois native opposes ordaining women as deacons,

1933
01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>for instance, So on that point he's seen as conservative

1934
01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:12.119
<v Speaker 2>on church doctrine.

1935
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:16.680
<v Speaker 4>So conservative in some ways, progressive on other ways, but

1936
01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm very curious.

1937
01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Did I load this up twice? You must have, Yeah,

1938
01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:24.199
<v Speaker 3>I must have. My apologies.

1939
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:26.159
<v Speaker 2>So here we go.

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01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Now, this is from the Catholic Herald. Why not in

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01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:30.079
<v Speaker 3>American pope? Right?

1942
01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:32.920
<v Speaker 4>This was released two years ago, and I think this

1943
01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:35.720
<v Speaker 4>also kind of goes in lines with what we were

1944
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:38.319
<v Speaker 4>reading about with the whole not until we were to

1945
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:41.720
<v Speaker 4>fall politically on the world stage. But this goes a

1946
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>little more in depth as to why it was such

1947
01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:47.079
<v Speaker 4>a big deal, why an American would not take the papacy.

1948
01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>So twenty twenty two was actually three years ago. Jacob

1949
01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>were living in twenty five, he said, two years.

1950
01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Ago, my bad, I said twenty twenty two. There was

1951
01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:57.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of twos being thrown out.

1952
01:44:57.279 --> 01:44:58.840
<v Speaker 3>My bad three years ago.

1953
01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:02.159
<v Speaker 2>So for years, the the consensus was that an American

1954
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>pope would never fly. Since the US overtook the British

1955
01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Empire as the world's pre eminent political and economic power,

1956
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:11.479
<v Speaker 2>the consensus has been that an American pontiff would concentrate

1957
01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>too much power in one country, while a non American

1958
01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.199
<v Speaker 2>head of the Catholic Church would offer some counterweight to

1959
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:23.359
<v Speaker 2>US influence. Smarting Europeans and Latin Americans would the consistent

1960
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.319
<v Speaker 2>the consensus went be especially wary of electing a pope

1961
01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:31.039
<v Speaker 2>from the US, but times change. Today, the US faces

1962
01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the prospect of relative decline as threat of war hangs

1963
01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>over the country, not least from the popes or from

1964
01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the People's Republic of China. While a heavy blow to

1965
01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>US influence, this could open the door for an American pope,

1966
01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:47.479
<v Speaker 2>as Europeans and Latin Americans, as well as others from

1967
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the Global South, already hugely represented among the College of Cardinals,

1968
01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>warm up to this idea. There is prospect of a

1969
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:57.079
<v Speaker 2>dark horse candidate such as conservative Cardinal Burke or perhaps

1970
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the newly promoted Cardinal macelroy, but other front runners could

1971
01:46:01.039 --> 01:46:04.439
<v Speaker 2>include Cardinal Sean O'Malley, Archbishop of Boston and a member

1972
01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:07.399
<v Speaker 2>of the Order of Friars minor Capuchin, as well as

1973
01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, both of

1974
01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:15.399
<v Speaker 2>whom scored relatively well in twenty thirteen vote which saw

1975
01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis paved the way for a non European pontiff.

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01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:22.479
<v Speaker 2>As reported by America Magazine back in twenty thirteen, in

1977
01:46:22.520 --> 01:46:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the first round of voting for the next Pope, Cardinal

1978
01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>O'Malley came fourth with ten votes, and according to Gerard O'Connell,

1979
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the Archbishop of Boston had much in his favor. He

1980
01:46:33.159 --> 01:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>was a pastor well liked, with a simple lifestyle, he

1981
01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>speaks Spanish fluently, and as a sterling track record on

1982
01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:42.239
<v Speaker 2>handling cases of sexual abuse of minors by clergy. Cardinal

1983
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Dolan also received two votes in the first round. Both

1984
01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>O'Malley and Dolan are also relatively young, at seventy eight

1985
01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and seventy two, respectively.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, so real quick, real quick, did you hear

1987
01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:58.319
<v Speaker 4>any of our boy's name being thrown out there? Not yet,

1988
01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:01.319
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing about prevost in here. And again, this is

1989
01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:04.960
<v Speaker 4>from twenty twenty two. COVID was still all the rage,

1990
01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.479
<v Speaker 4>and some idiots were still wearing masks. At this time,

1991
01:47:07.479 --> 01:47:09.279
<v Speaker 4>most people had decided that was stupid and they were

1992
01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:09.800
<v Speaker 4>over the shit.

1993
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>But beside the point, okay, as they were talking.

1994
01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:17.239
<v Speaker 4>About potential American popes, this dude did not even come

1995
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:19.399
<v Speaker 4>up one time in this list of people.

1996
01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:20.000
<v Speaker 3>They just named.

1997
01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, because your boy wasn't even elected cardinal until twenty

1998
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. This was in twenty twenty two.

1999
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:27.640
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of where I'm going with this.

2000
01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:30.680
<v Speaker 4>So he got put in a position right at the

2001
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:33.119
<v Speaker 4>key moment when they needed him to be in that position,

2002
01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:35.119
<v Speaker 4>and then he got it with that much of a

2003
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:37.720
<v Speaker 4>swing of the votes. When these dudes, I don't even

2004
01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:39.960
<v Speaker 4>know if these dudes are still there. If they're too old, No,

2005
01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:42.199
<v Speaker 4>they couldn't have been two years ago. So this guy,

2006
01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:45.680
<v Speaker 4>the first one, Dolan or I'm sorry, O'Malley, he's too

2007
01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:47.640
<v Speaker 4>old now they have to be under eighty years old.

2008
01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:50.439
<v Speaker 3>But Dolan is still there. He could have done this.

2009
01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, they have to dude.

2010
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>No, you can be over eighty to get elected. To

2011
01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>be elected, Yeah, you can't vote. You can't vote if

2012
01:47:57.319 --> 01:47:59.399
<v Speaker 2>you're under eighty or over eighty.

2013
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Rather, you're right, you are correct.

2014
01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>While another North American cardinal, Oulai, who came in third

2015
01:48:07.279 --> 01:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>with twenty two votes in the first round of twenty thirteen,

2016
01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:13.640
<v Speaker 2>having a cloud over him due to recent a recent allegation.

2017
01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Even if nothing comes of it, an American candidate maybe

2018
01:48:17.359 --> 01:48:21.039
<v Speaker 2>has an even better chance next time around. In twenty nineteen,

2019
01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Michelle Borstein, writing for The Washington Post, said of the

2020
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>voting that some said that it showed that the Cardinals

2021
01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:30.720
<v Speaker 2>were strongly driven by desire for geographical diversity as the

2022
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Church has been shrinking for years in Europe. Others said

2023
01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Bergoglio's rise and a strong showing for O'Malley showed voters

2024
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:42.800
<v Speaker 2>attraction to clerics known for their focus on the poor, immigrants,

2025
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>social questions, and a simple lifestyle compared with those known

2026
01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:50.640
<v Speaker 2>for their theological focus and correctness and clarity.

2027
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:53.159
<v Speaker 3>So kat all right, so we all ought to read more.

2028
01:48:53.199 --> 01:48:54.800
<v Speaker 4>We ought to read more because, like we said, the

2029
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:57.119
<v Speaker 4>current pope wasn't even a cardinal at the time of

2030
01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.520
<v Speaker 4>writing this. But I just wanted to show this, Okay,

2031
01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:01.560
<v Speaker 4>so pretty much for years it has been an American

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01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.039
<v Speaker 4>pope would never fly, okay, because they don't want too

2033
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:06.600
<v Speaker 4>much power centralized from one nation.

2034
01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.479
<v Speaker 3>That'd be crazy, right. That's how the British Empire was

2035
01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:12.359
<v Speaker 3>like that for forever, right, the Spanish Empire was like

2036
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:12.920
<v Speaker 3>that for forever.

2037
01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:16.119
<v Speaker 4>The all of them, all these empires had way too

2038
01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:19.039
<v Speaker 4>much power centrally located. So for them to have an

2039
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.640
<v Speaker 4>American pope for forever has been seen as no way

2040
01:49:22.680 --> 01:49:24.960
<v Speaker 4>is that gonna go. Then you got these guys that

2041
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:26.520
<v Speaker 4>were kind of making their way, and a couple of

2042
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:28.560
<v Speaker 4>them got some votes and that's all good things. Pope

2043
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Francis comes along and completely breaks the mold on what

2044
01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:32.479
<v Speaker 4>canon cannot go down.

2045
01:49:32.960 --> 01:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>So what we're seeing is an American empire then.

2046
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:40.680
<v Speaker 4>Possibly all around to even further that point. This is

2047
01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:43.079
<v Speaker 4>from polymarket. By the way, for people that took bets

2048
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:47.039
<v Speaker 4>on who would be the pope, your boy prevost wasn't

2049
01:49:47.119 --> 01:49:49.920
<v Speaker 4>even he had like zero percent until the final day.

2050
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:51.880
<v Speaker 4>Matter of fact' going say, this is one week here

2051
01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:55.479
<v Speaker 4>he was down here with the rest of them. Everybody

2052
01:49:55.560 --> 01:50:00.119
<v Speaker 4>thought that Tangle had the best options here.

2053
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>That was that uh dude, oh Filipino.

2054
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well he's Asian, Yeah, yeah, But my point, he

2055
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:08.720
<v Speaker 4>was seen as the most likely candidate because he had

2056
01:50:09.079 --> 01:50:12.640
<v Speaker 4>outwardly and loudly been very much in line with Francis

2057
01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:17.079
<v Speaker 4>as far as political ideations goes open borders, accepting of

2058
01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:21.039
<v Speaker 4>all going out with the old again, the pope saying

2059
01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:22.920
<v Speaker 4>that they need to do away with the old ways.

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01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:26.399
<v Speaker 4>That in and of itself is a mind blowing concept.

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01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't think people truly get.

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01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course, there would be a betting market

2063
01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:32.399
<v Speaker 2>to see who the next Pope is gonna be. Why

2064
01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:33.119
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't there be?

2065
01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, they take bets on everything, dude, without without a doubt.

2066
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:38.920
<v Speaker 4>But my point is though Prevost was down here on

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01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:41.960
<v Speaker 4>that zero line until right at the last second and

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01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.119
<v Speaker 4>then boom, which I mean, like to be fair that

2069
01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:47.560
<v Speaker 4>that's when the election results came out.

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01:50:47.239 --> 01:50:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Was literally zero until it was announced that he was

2071
01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:55.680
<v Speaker 2>elected in exactly exactly. Yeah, he was the darkest of

2072
01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>dark horses, right.

2073
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Ah it again, it kind of seems.

2074
01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:04.560
<v Speaker 4>And some of these names we saw when we did

2075
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:07.119
<v Speaker 4>those lists, those top ten picks and all these things,

2076
01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:09.640
<v Speaker 4>some of these I recognize, and it's like, Okay, yeah,

2077
01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:10.880
<v Speaker 4>this could have happened.

2078
01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:12.520
<v Speaker 3>I could have seen this go down that way.

2079
01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:18.079
<v Speaker 4>Robert Sarah, that's the one of the black guys from Africa. Wow,

2080
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.159
<v Speaker 4>that sounded like an oxymoron. But we have an African

2081
01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:24.159
<v Speaker 4>American cardinal as well. So when I meant that I

2082
01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:27.319
<v Speaker 4>met like from the actual I think he was from

2083
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Ghana if I'm not mistaken.

2084
01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>You sure it wasn't one of those white guys from

2085
01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the Caucus Mountains too, or you Dick.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, So anyway, nobody saw him coming, nobody saw

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<v Speaker 4>him as a front runner. Most people didn't even know

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<v Speaker 4>who this guy was until he was elected and here

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01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:49.079
<v Speaker 4>we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a shocker to pretty much everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, so again talking about Pope Leo, let's talk about

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01:51:57.239 --> 01:51:59.920
<v Speaker 4>his predecessor with the name here, Pope Leo the thirteen,

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01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:02.399
<v Speaker 4>Why was he known as the.

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01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Progressive Pope? Right? So, yeah, let's get into it here.

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01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:11.720
<v Speaker 2>So even before he stepped out on the balcony of

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01:52:11.720 --> 01:52:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Saint Peter's Basilica and spoke on May eighth, Pope Leo

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01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth choice of name was a powerful statement. Following

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01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis, who chose a completely new name in church history,

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01:52:22.439 --> 01:52:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Pope Leo opted for a name steeped in tradition that

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01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:28.319
<v Speaker 2>also conveys an openness to engage in with the modern world.

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01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:31.840
<v Speaker 2>The Pope's choice of name is, in quotes, a direct

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01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:34.399
<v Speaker 2>recall of the social doctrine of the church and of

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01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the pope that initiated the modern social doctrine of the church.

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01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:39.600
<v Speaker 3>And so.

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01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Pop Leo the thirteenth, who was Pope from eighteen seventy

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01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:46.560
<v Speaker 2>eight to nineteen oh three, is known for publishing the

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01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:53.720
<v Speaker 2>encyclical Rerum Novarum on workers' rights, considered the foundational document

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01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>for the church's social teaching. The document emphasized the dignity

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01:52:57.159 --> 01:53:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of workers and condemned the dangers of unchecked capitalism and socialism.

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01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:04.319
<v Speaker 2>The name Leo is a direct reference to men and

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01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:08.199
<v Speaker 2>women and their work. Also in the time of artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh throw that part in there, that was weird, right,

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01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:16.279
<v Speaker 2>you see what I'm saying here, So all right, Leo

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01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.720
<v Speaker 2>back in the day the rerum novoro basically meant that

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01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:24.119
<v Speaker 2>he was taking on social issues and speaking on them

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01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:26.159
<v Speaker 2>on behalf of the entire Catholic Church.

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01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:28.960
<v Speaker 3>That is not what popes did up until that point.

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01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:32.720
<v Speaker 4>They strictly stuck to the ways, the traditions, the morals

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<v Speaker 4>and dogma, the rituals of it, the sanctity of it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to keep it tradition. We got to keep

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01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:38.760
<v Speaker 4>it the way it's been. It's been this way for

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01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:39.479
<v Speaker 4>over a thousand years.

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<v Speaker 6>B b.

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01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:40.560
<v Speaker 16>Bro.

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01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:44.439
<v Speaker 4>Pope Leo the thirteenth started to take in social issues

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01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:47.800
<v Speaker 4>and speaking on them, and he actually put them and

2127
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:52.119
<v Speaker 4>spoke about capitalism and socialism. Which that's crazy that a

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01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:56.800
<v Speaker 4>pope would speak on political issues and economic issues. That's

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01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:59.159
<v Speaker 4>not something that typically happened up until that point. The

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01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:03.680
<v Speaker 4>role in the circles of the royalties, right, he was

2131
01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:06.560
<v Speaker 4>tight with all the royal families around Europe and all

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01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:09.199
<v Speaker 4>these things. World War One came around and we have

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01:54:09.319 --> 01:54:12.000
<v Speaker 4>no more royal families running all these nations. Now we

2134
01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:14.760
<v Speaker 4>don't have the Kingdom of all these things. We don't

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01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:16.680
<v Speaker 4>have the Kingdom of Prussia, we don't have the Kingdom

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01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:18.880
<v Speaker 4>of Italy, we don't have the Kingdom of Hungary. We

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01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:22.359
<v Speaker 4>now have the democratic Republic of or the Republic of

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01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:25.039
<v Speaker 4>or the Nation of and these things. Right, So the

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01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:28.319
<v Speaker 4>royalty went away for the most part. They're still around,

2140
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:30.079
<v Speaker 4>but like they don't have the power that they did

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01:54:30.520 --> 01:54:33.479
<v Speaker 4>after World War One. So that was just that was

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01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:39.079
<v Speaker 4>extremely progressive for the time. Now that's not progressive as

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01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.359
<v Speaker 4>we use the term today. Right, when we say the

2144
01:54:42.439 --> 01:54:46.279
<v Speaker 4>term progressive today, it typically gets associated with the screaming

2145
01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:50.199
<v Speaker 4>liberals on the left that believe that, you know, fourth

2146
01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:53.680
<v Speaker 4>term abortions are okay, and that there's seventy four genders,

2147
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:57.880
<v Speaker 4>and that borders are just like an imaginary construct brah,

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01:54:58.039 --> 01:54:59.960
<v Speaker 4>and like you know, the dumb shit, the recharge.

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01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, not progressivism as the last thirty years, but

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01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:07.359
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about over the last thousand years essentially.

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01:55:07.520 --> 01:55:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Right, like actually bringing human life to a more progressive

2152
01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:16.000
<v Speaker 4>and like making progress for everyone of the human race.

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01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:19.359
<v Speaker 4>That's what Poplio the thirteenth was about. Now, this guy,

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01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Poplio the fourteenth, is doing this as a direct reference

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01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:26.680
<v Speaker 4>to men and women and their work. Also in the

2156
01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:31.720
<v Speaker 4>time of artificial intelligence. So I believe that this pope

2157
01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:34.399
<v Speaker 4>is going to be making some speeches about ai.

2158
01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

2159
01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I wouldn't doubt it. But Poplio the thirteenth also

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01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:42.359
<v Speaker 2>opened the Vatican's secret archives to scholars, founded the Vatican

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01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Observatory to demonstrate the Church's openness to science, and was

2162
01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:48.479
<v Speaker 2>the first pope to be filmed on a motion picture camera.

2163
01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Tied to the new Pope's first words to the faithful,

2164
01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:56.359
<v Speaker 2>may peace be with you all. His namesake, Popelio the

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01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:59.600
<v Speaker 2>thirteenth also or was also a peacemaker who reconciled the

2166
01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Church with the governments of France, Russia, Germany, and Great

2167
01:56:03.079 --> 01:56:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Britain during his pontificate. Pope Leo's name also has a

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01:56:07.279 --> 01:56:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Marian significance, since Poplio the thirteenth wrote eleven encyclicals on

2169
01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the Rosary and was also the first pope to embrace

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01:56:14.920 --> 01:56:20.279
<v Speaker 2>the concept of Mary as mediatrix, which holds that Mary

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01:56:20.439 --> 01:56:26.800
<v Speaker 2>helps distribute, helps distribute Christ's Christ's grace through her intercession.

2172
01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's a part of their prayers as well.

2173
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:33.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like, Oh, Blessed Mother, let it be known that

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01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:36.920
<v Speaker 4>no Christian that's ever come to your aid for intercession

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01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:37.920
<v Speaker 4>has been turned away.

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01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:39.119
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:42.279
<v Speaker 4>The whole Mother of God conversation, that's a thing that

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01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Catholics say a good.

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01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Bit here, Holy Mary, Mother of God.

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01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Well that's a part of the Rosary. You're like, Mother Mary,

2181
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Mother of God, pray for sarahs now in the hour

2182
01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:52.520
<v Speaker 3>of our death. Aymen. It's a whole thing, right, It's

2183
01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.439
<v Speaker 3>a whole thing with the Rosary. It's prayer. But anyway,

2184
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:56.800
<v Speaker 3>we don't spend too much time on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I did just want to bring up that, Yes, while

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01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Leo the third teenth was progressive for his time, it

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01:57:03.680 --> 01:57:08.560
<v Speaker 4>was not something that we in modern day would call progressive. However,

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01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:15.600
<v Speaker 4>Leo the fourteenth is absolutely taking progressivism to a different conversation. Now,

2189
01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:20.079
<v Speaker 4>before we get into the criticisms of the current pope,

2190
01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:21.720
<v Speaker 4>you said you had a couple of things you wanted

2191
01:57:21.720 --> 01:57:23.079
<v Speaker 4>to bring up as well. I didn't know if you

2192
01:57:23.079 --> 01:57:24.840
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do anything on that one at this time.

2193
01:57:25.319 --> 01:57:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, yeah, just stop sharing the screen there, and

2194
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I got some stuff down yonder Ope, hold up, let

2195
01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:36.520
<v Speaker 2>me share. We don't need to share sound or anything

2196
01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's just a couple of things that I

2197
01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:40.119
<v Speaker 2>did want to read. So I read the thing about

2198
01:57:40.119 --> 01:57:42.239
<v Speaker 2>how he went to the two thousand and five World

2199
01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Series for the White Sox, their first time winning a

2200
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:48.640
<v Speaker 2>championship in eighty eight years. And then there was this

2201
01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:50.479
<v Speaker 2>one right here. This is actually a post by your

2202
01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:54.319
<v Speaker 2>boy don't nut, but he actually gets into a lot

2203
01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:56.520
<v Speaker 2>of the symbolism behind the number eighty eight as well,

2204
01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So you had uh yeah, the pope died when he

2205
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:03.600
<v Speaker 2>was eighty eight years old. If you remember, whenever Trump

2206
01:58:03.840 --> 01:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Trump was elected, you would text Trump to eight eight

2207
01:58:07.199 --> 01:58:10.800
<v Speaker 2>O two two whatever. Could just be a coincidence. The

2208
01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Hawaiian fire happened on August eighth, so yeah, that's eight eight.

2209
01:58:18.319 --> 01:58:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Rate there also on August eighth, the FBI searched mar

2210
01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:28.800
<v Speaker 2>al Lago. There's another eight eight and uh so yeah,

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01:58:28.840 --> 01:58:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I just thought that that was pretty interesting. But I

2212
01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:33.439
<v Speaker 2>did have a couple of fun little articles that we

2213
01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:37.439
<v Speaker 2>can get into. So where were we right over here

2214
01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:40.079
<v Speaker 2>is where I wanted to go. Okay, so there is.

2215
01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And we're only getting into this eighty eight because there's

2216
01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:46.319
<v Speaker 2>so many eighty eights attached to this whole thing, as

2217
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:48.159
<v Speaker 2>we were kind of talking a little bit about earlier.

2218
01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:51.520
<v Speaker 2>So we can get into a couple of them. But

2219
01:58:51.600 --> 01:58:53.399
<v Speaker 2>one of them that I thought was really weird, is

2220
01:58:53.439 --> 01:58:56.159
<v Speaker 2>that actually eighty eight. I don't know if you know

2221
01:58:56.279 --> 01:59:01.399
<v Speaker 2>this is it says so Neo Nazis used the number

2222
01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:05.279
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight as an abbreviation for the Nazi salute Hail Hitler.

2223
01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:08.279
<v Speaker 2>So eight being the eighth letter of the alphabet, they

2224
01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.760
<v Speaker 2>would type in HH or eight eight as part of

2225
01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:16.039
<v Speaker 2>their like symbolism. Right, often this number is associated with

2226
01:59:16.079 --> 01:59:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the number fourteens. I don't know why that is. So

2227
01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:25.439
<v Speaker 2>there was a let's see, Oh okay, so the number

2228
01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of keys on a piano is eighty eight. It's kind

2229
01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.560
<v Speaker 2>of weird, right. The number eighty eight is used in

2230
01:59:31.640 --> 01:59:34.479
<v Speaker 2>amateur radio as shorthand for love and kisses.

2231
01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of weight. I did not know that.

2232
01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't either. Yeah, so there's eighty eight. Yeah, there's

2233
01:59:42.319 --> 01:59:45.000
<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of eighty eights that are going on here. Oh,

2234
01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:47.720
<v Speaker 2>check this out. So the atomic number for the element

2235
01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:51.039
<v Speaker 2>radium is eighty eight, the number of constellations in the sky.

2236
01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:55.000
<v Speaker 2>We talked about that being eighty eight. In math, there's

2237
01:59:55.039 --> 01:59:58.399
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of things, dude, people do like crazy homework

2238
01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:02.840
<v Speaker 2>on like the the crazy research into the number eighty eight.

2239
02:00:04.359 --> 02:00:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I just kind of wanted to show a

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02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit of that. We're not gonna dive too deep

2241
02:00:08.920 --> 02:00:11.159
<v Speaker 2>into it because I feel like sometimes people take it

2242
02:00:11.199 --> 02:00:14.039
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too far with the symbolism and they

2243
02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:17.199
<v Speaker 2>start drawing at strings and shit like that. But I

2244
02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just thought that it was pretty interesting.

2245
02:00:19.880 --> 02:00:23.239
<v Speaker 2>There is another thing that I wanted to show, is

2246
02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>there not? Oh yeah, damn, I guess I said it all.

2247
02:00:27.319 --> 02:00:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, no, I'm tripping here we go. Let

2248
02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:33.119
<v Speaker 2>me stop sharing right here because it's actually on my phone.

2249
02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:37.760
<v Speaker 2>So some people are actually saying that he is pope.

2250
02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:41.119
<v Speaker 2>So he's Pope Leo, right, So Leo's if you get

2251
02:00:41.159 --> 02:00:45.520
<v Speaker 2>into astrology, the Leo's sun sign is actually the sun,

2252
02:00:46.079 --> 02:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>so people think that he could potentially be like another

2253
02:00:49.880 --> 02:00:54.560
<v Speaker 2>like worshiping the Sun god kind of thing. Also, so

2254
02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the where was it? I'm sorry, I'm like, I was

2255
02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:01.880
<v Speaker 2>not prepared. I had like very little time to really

2256
02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:04.640
<v Speaker 2>get all of my shit here together. So yeah, Pope

2257
02:01:04.640 --> 02:01:07.159
<v Speaker 2>France is dying at eighty eight years old. He is

2258
02:01:07.239 --> 02:01:11.399
<v Speaker 2>immediately immediately succeeded by Pope Leo the fourteenth. The fourteenth Leo,

2259
02:01:11.600 --> 02:01:15.640
<v Speaker 2>a name of kings, lions, and light. The symbolic baton

2260
02:01:15.760 --> 02:01:18.880
<v Speaker 2>is passed at the eighty eighth hour. Metaphorically speaking, this

2261
02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:22.680
<v Speaker 2>number resonates with infinity, resurrection, and return cycles end of

2262
02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a karmat loop. Okay, uh yeah, So I don't know,

2263
02:01:28.119 --> 02:01:30.399
<v Speaker 2>there's there's just like a bunch of weird shit that's

2264
02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:33.279
<v Speaker 2>going on with eighty eight. So I if anybody else

2265
02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:36.439
<v Speaker 2>really has anything else to add to that, then you know,

2266
02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:39.239
<v Speaker 2>just hit hit us up on Patreon or Instagram. You're

2267
02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:41.920
<v Speaker 2>more likely to get ahold of us on Instagram, I mean,

2268
02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:48.319
<v Speaker 2>on Patreon rather rather than Instagram. But yeah, I don't know, dude, Yeah,

2269
02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I kind of spilled the tea on a lot of

2270
02:01:50.199 --> 02:01:54.039
<v Speaker 2>that earlier. There's, like I said, there's a there's a

2271
02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:56.479
<v Speaker 2>lot more symbolism to eighty eight, but I don't want

2272
02:01:56.520 --> 02:01:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to draw strings. You know, it's just that there's all

2273
02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:02.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of shit to it. So I mean,

2274
02:02:02.159 --> 02:02:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that even three coincidences with eighty eight is

2275
02:02:05.840 --> 02:02:08.439
<v Speaker 2>too much and we what do we say, like at

2276
02:02:08.520 --> 02:02:09.720
<v Speaker 2>least ten of them?

2277
02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't even know.

2278
02:02:13.159 --> 02:02:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Like when you brought this all up earlier, I was

2279
02:02:14.920 --> 02:02:19.159
<v Speaker 4>just like, bro, I want to have a rebuttal like

2280
02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:22.279
<v Speaker 4>I want to because a lot of the times, like yes,

2281
02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:26.000
<v Speaker 4>when looking at numerology and seeing how certain numbers line

2282
02:02:26.000 --> 02:02:28.840
<v Speaker 4>it up to stuff, I feel like a lot of that.

2283
02:02:28.920 --> 02:02:32.199
<v Speaker 3>Most of the time is coincidental, you know, and especially

2284
02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:32.439
<v Speaker 3>when you.

2285
02:02:32.439 --> 02:02:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Start getting into camatria, because when you do the equations

2286
02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:40.199
<v Speaker 4>on certain words, certain things equal the same number, But

2287
02:02:40.239 --> 02:02:42.640
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean there's actually a connection between the two.

2288
02:02:43.439 --> 02:02:46.319
<v Speaker 3>But it's interesting to look at and it's fun, you know.

2289
02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:49.720
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like in my opinion, like astrology, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Leo. I don't actually believe that that means

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<v Speaker 4>something about my life because of my own beliefs as

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<v Speaker 4>far as like what constellation was actually on the horizon

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<v Speaker 4>of the day of my birth, as to what the

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<v Speaker 4>Greeks wrote down about it. But like it's fun to

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<v Speaker 4>look at sometimes you know, numerology's in that same field.

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<v Speaker 4>But then but then when we're when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of shit and there's over ten that you

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<v Speaker 4>brought up this episode alone. It's like, I want, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to have a rebuttal, but I actually don't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill And the thing is is what I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to know is is just because you don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>the symbolism would be there doesn't necessarily mean that there

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a reason. It's just about cracking the code. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a code to possibly cracking whatever this case may be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'll see, you know, just how far it

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<v Speaker 2>carries out. I mean we're only just in the first

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<v Speaker 2>few days of his papalc right, yea, And so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see exactly where it goes. I imagine August eighth this year,

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<v Speaker 2>probably something goes down. Just gonna throw it out there

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<v Speaker 2>with it with the Pope, something to do with the Pope,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe with the President. There's gonna be something that goes

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<v Speaker 2>down on August eighth. Just mark my market in your

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<v Speaker 2>calendar August, say if some shit's going down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we actually probably do need mark that down our calendars.

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<v Speaker 4>Just for the hell of it. I'll write that down.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm write that down right now and putting in my

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<v Speaker 4>calendar layer of like just exclamation question point, question Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>excuse me, and I'm not gonna remember what that is

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<v Speaker 4>until the day calms down a look at and be like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan, we'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, typically shit goes down on those days. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we said that that's that's the day that Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>mar A Lago got rated, That's the day, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>was it the Hawaiian fire that was? You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>could be something to it. We could also just be

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<v Speaker 2>like you know that guy or Jim Carrey in twenty three,

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02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:42.680
<v Speaker 2>just looking for numbers that that could also be it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to throw that out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, hell, we what was that one dude we

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<v Speaker 4>had on that said that pretty much every year on

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<v Speaker 4>nine to eleven, something horrible happens or it's like the

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<v Speaker 4>eleventh of the month is when like things are more

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<v Speaker 4>likely to pop off. And it's like, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you can pull up some examples and like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>denying that those examples happen on that date, but like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>as we're talking about this on August eighth and this

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02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:06.960
<v Speaker 4>guy and the whole thing with the stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>like we will see cult members marketing on your calendars

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02:05:10.039 --> 02:05:12.680
<v Speaker 4>and if nothing happens, then hey, you can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>be one hundred percent accurate all the time. And we're

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<v Speaker 4>not even gonna call our shot of what will happen.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just saying, let's keep our eyes, especially that third

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<v Speaker 4>eye all the way open here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I think you're talking about your boy troubles Garcia,

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe the number that he brought up was

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<v Speaker 2>the eighth now that I think about.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I could be wrong here, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>Mike A. Dank brought it up. I feel like Brandon

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02:05:34.640 --> 02:05:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Kroll brought it up, and I feel like Treble's also.

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02:05:36.640 --> 02:05:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Brought it up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know what numbers were on all of them,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've heard multiple guests we've had on the show

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<v Speaker 4>say like that statement before, and I don't you know cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh well, And you know, also, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at like a digital clock, a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's like a conspiracy around numbers and time in general,

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02:05:55.720 --> 02:05:58.760
<v Speaker 2>because if you look at a digital clock, every single

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<v Speaker 2>line that can be outlined is outlined with an aid,

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02:06:02.760 --> 02:06:06.880
<v Speaker 2>which could possibly mean like the end, right, like every

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02:06:06.920 --> 02:06:09.119
<v Speaker 2>single thing has been filled in. Why would you take

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02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:11.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the lines away? To make a nine kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, and so people start getting weird and going

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02:06:13.960 --> 02:06:15.439
<v Speaker 2>all over the place with it. But I mean, I

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02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:19.800
<v Speaker 2>understand where they're coming from. But I mean, eh, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how it goes. We'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, before we get into the controversy, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>kind of segue into it here. This is a quick

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<v Speaker 4>clip from news dot com dot Australia. The challenge is

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<v Speaker 4>that Pope Leo the fourteenth is currently facing now as

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<v Speaker 4>he takes his position. He got left some bullshit, he

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<v Speaker 4>got left some baggage from the previous pope and from

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<v Speaker 4>even before that. To be honest with you, then now

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<v Speaker 4>he has to be the leader and see them through

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<v Speaker 4>the same way that if a CEO takes over a company,

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02:06:52.000 --> 02:06:54.520
<v Speaker 4>the former CEO just retired. This guy's a new guy

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02:06:54.520 --> 02:06:57.560
<v Speaker 4>in charge. Whatever bullshit and drama the company is currently

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02:06:57.560 --> 02:06:59.239
<v Speaker 4>facing is now this guy's problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a quick snapshot of some of the issues

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<v Speaker 4>that and challenges that he has to face.

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<v Speaker 17>Now, let's listen in Pope Leo fourteenth, the two hundred

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<v Speaker 17>and sixty seventh leader of the Catholic Church and the

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<v Speaker 17>first from the United States inherits major challenges from his

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<v Speaker 17>much loved predecessor, Francis.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much loved.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that might be one of those big

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote much love predecessors Francis. I don't know many

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<v Speaker 4>Catholics that loved him, but okay, anyway, there's a.

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<v Speaker 17>Look at the new pontiff's overflowing entrey. A short fall in.

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<v Speaker 4>The Vatican balancing the books, dude, a shortfall of the

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<v Speaker 4>Vatican budget to the tune of ninety four million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's now this guy's problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I did want to throw out there too. When was

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<v Speaker 2>the last time that we had a leader from Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you mean old Berry.

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<v Speaker 2>Also seen as a very dark course. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>by a skin color, I mean like, no, he was

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<v Speaker 2>not very dark.

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<v Speaker 16>He was.

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02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:06.760
<v Speaker 2>He was not very high up in the ranks of

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<v Speaker 2>anything political. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a junior senator for like less than I

2405
02:08:12.159 --> 02:08:14.359
<v Speaker 4>think it was like less than a year, and then

2406
02:08:14.359 --> 02:08:15.960
<v Speaker 4>he got nominated for the presidency.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy was a cardinal for two years ish give

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<v Speaker 3>or take not even.

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<v Speaker 4>And then won a sweeping voting victory on day two.

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<v Speaker 2>As did Obama swept it his first term, like it

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02:08:31.279 --> 02:08:32.159
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even close.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying, but we just saying, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I know what you're saying, and I know what

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02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:41.720
<v Speaker 2>you're not saying exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go so again.

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<v Speaker 4>Ninety four million dollar deficit that this guy now has

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<v Speaker 4>to see the church through.

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<v Speaker 17>Budget to the tune of ninety four million dollars and

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<v Speaker 17>an even larger gap in the pension fund were want

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<v Speaker 17>Leo's immediate attention. That's according to two knowledgeable sources. And

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<v Speaker 17>despite Pope France's cost cutting efforts and financial management reforms,

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02:09:06.359 --> 02:09:09.960
<v Speaker 17>the scandal of clerical child sex abuse and its cover up.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this one is one that we are going to

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02:09:12.159 --> 02:09:14.680
<v Speaker 4>spend a little extra time talking about once this video

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<v Speaker 4>is over.

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<v Speaker 3>The child's sex abuse that is so.

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<v Speaker 4>Endemic, or at least so loudly talked about within the

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02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Catholic Church. Yes, and now you know, feel these curveballs

2430
02:09:27.840 --> 02:09:30.479
<v Speaker 4>being thrown his way and he does not have a

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02:09:30.479 --> 02:09:34.319
<v Speaker 4>good track record of handling them the appropriate way. In fact,

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02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:36.760
<v Speaker 4>he has quite the track record of turning a blind

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02:09:36.760 --> 02:09:38.359
<v Speaker 4>eye and pretending they're not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll discuss more in depth here in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, scout master, oh, yeah, yeah, it's it's a thing

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02:09:47.840 --> 02:09:48.119
<v Speaker 4>or is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this or this or one of these kind of

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<v Speaker 2>things three fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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02:09:52.560 --> 02:09:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go with the boy scouts whenever I

2441
02:09:54.399 --> 02:09:57.680
<v Speaker 2>was younger, but it fucked with the scheduling for football

2442
02:09:57.680 --> 02:09:58.720
<v Speaker 2>and so I couldn't do both.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that. I feel that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so our boy here, Pope Leo, when he

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02:10:03.560 --> 02:10:07.199
<v Speaker 4>was a bishop and a priest in Peru and had

2446
02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:10.760
<v Speaker 4>all these things going on around him, he never took

2447
02:10:10.800 --> 02:10:13.520
<v Speaker 4>a hard stance against it and didn't really do anything

2448
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:15.880
<v Speaker 4>to stop it, and when asked about it would kind

2449
02:10:15.920 --> 02:10:17.479
<v Speaker 4>of stick his head and sand and pretend to what

2450
02:10:17.479 --> 02:10:20.399
<v Speaker 4>wasn't happening. And that is not a good look when

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02:10:20.399 --> 02:10:23.560
<v Speaker 4>we are talking about the next stage of the Catholic Church.

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02:10:23.600 --> 02:10:24.960
<v Speaker 3>But let's listen in more.

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<v Speaker 17>RUP has dogged the global Catholic Church and undermined its

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02:10:29.720 --> 02:10:34.039
<v Speaker 17>standing despite Franc's policy of zero tolerance. Leo will need

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02:10:34.039 --> 02:10:37.239
<v Speaker 17>to examine reforms that have delivered at best, partial and

2456
02:10:37.439 --> 02:10:40.560
<v Speaker 17>uneven results under Francis.

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02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Modernizing the Church. Now, this is one of those that

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02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:46.359
<v Speaker 4>are saying ordain women. This is a group that is

2459
02:10:46.359 --> 02:10:48.239
<v Speaker 4>sitting outside of the Vatican right now with this big

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02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:50.520
<v Speaker 4>old banner saying, please make us priestesses.

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02:10:51.239 --> 02:10:53.119
<v Speaker 3>But let's look at.

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<v Speaker 17>Tensions erupted over whether the church should be more welcoming

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02:10:55.720 --> 02:10:59.840
<v Speaker 17>towards the LGBT community and divorces and let women play

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02:10:59.840 --> 02:11:01.119
<v Speaker 17>it wat to roll in church?

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02:11:01.960 --> 02:11:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Look at that? Look at that.

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02:11:03.760 --> 02:11:06.880
<v Speaker 4>So Pope Leo is out there giving his speech and stuff,

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02:11:06.880 --> 02:11:08.600
<v Speaker 4>and then you got these broads out here with this

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02:11:08.640 --> 02:11:13.720
<v Speaker 4>big old banner making their statement, and so he's gonna

2469
02:11:13.720 --> 02:11:15.960
<v Speaker 4>have to feel these questions as well. Are you going

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02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:18.720
<v Speaker 4>to be more inclusive to the LGBTQ, all the little

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02:11:18.960 --> 02:11:22.199
<v Speaker 4>people like Francis wanted? Are you gonna ordain women? Are

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02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:24.439
<v Speaker 4>you gonna let divorce people take the sacraments?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like it's probably just part of

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02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:31.239
<v Speaker 2>any high ranking job, like you know, president pope, whatever,

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02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:34.560
<v Speaker 2>leader of the leader of whatever, leader of a city

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02:11:34.640 --> 02:11:38.640
<v Speaker 2>mayor city council. You know you're going to have protesters

2477
02:11:38.640 --> 02:11:41.199
<v Speaker 2>one way or the other. To be honest with you,

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02:11:41.279 --> 02:11:44.319
<v Speaker 2>like if he was to say that women could be ordained,

2479
02:11:44.560 --> 02:11:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you think there wouldn't be any protesters to that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise there would be, right, Oh my god, So

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02:11:49.079 --> 02:11:50.359
<v Speaker 2>this is like just expected.

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02:11:51.159 --> 02:11:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, remember what happened when the Catholic Church

2483
02:11:54.600 --> 02:11:58.439
<v Speaker 4>took away the Latin Mass. They had a whole splintering

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02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:02.039
<v Speaker 4>off in an entire section. Catholics right now are saying

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02:12:02.039 --> 02:12:04.319
<v Speaker 4>that if any Mass is happening in English and it's

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02:12:04.359 --> 02:12:06.359
<v Speaker 4>not a true Catholic Mass, they broke off into their

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02:12:06.359 --> 02:12:08.479
<v Speaker 4>own order of Catholicism over it.

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02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, you feel the same way whenever it

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02:12:11.840 --> 02:12:15.000
<v Speaker 2>comes to like well, for example, whenever it comes to

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02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like demonology and shit like that, you believe that they

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02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:19.319
<v Speaker 2>should be speaking in Latin.

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02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh, I don't feel that way.

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02:12:21.359 --> 02:12:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Even the earliest forms of alchemists said that if you're

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02:12:23.920 --> 02:12:26.159
<v Speaker 4>not doing it in Hebrew, then you're not doing alchemy.

2495
02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:30.119
<v Speaker 4>If you're not doing sorcery in these original languages, then

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02:12:30.159 --> 02:12:32.000
<v Speaker 4>you're not doing sorcery, you're playing it.

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02:12:32.079 --> 02:12:34.399
<v Speaker 2>So you understand why they would want to keep Mass

2498
02:12:34.399 --> 02:12:36.159
<v Speaker 2>in Latin, then I do.

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<v Speaker 4>And personally, I wish I could go and sit into

2500
02:12:38.520 --> 02:12:39.359
<v Speaker 4>a Latin Mass.

2501
02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I would love I've heard the entire vibe is different, Like.

2502
02:12:42.760 --> 02:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure it's cool to listen to.

2503
02:12:44.880 --> 02:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't understand a fucking word of it, but it

2504
02:12:47.039 --> 02:12:48.520
<v Speaker 2>would probably be pretty cool to listen.

2505
02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:50.720
<v Speaker 4>But I mean the movements are the same. If you've

2506
02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:52.239
<v Speaker 4>ever been to a Catholic Mass, You've been to a

2507
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Catholic Mass. And if you know when to sit, neil bin, pray,

2508
02:12:55.119 --> 02:12:57.439
<v Speaker 4>walk up, do your thing like it. The order of

2509
02:12:57.479 --> 02:12:59.920
<v Speaker 4>operations is the same no matter what Catholic church you

2510
02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:02.000
<v Speaker 4>go to. So like, even though it'd be Latin, I

2511
02:13:02.039 --> 02:13:05.119
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't fully understand it. I've been I've been told by

2512
02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:06.840
<v Speaker 4>people that have gone to them that do. It's just

2513
02:13:06.960 --> 02:13:11.560
<v Speaker 4>the entire ambiance is like to the next level. And

2514
02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:13.520
<v Speaker 4>I believe there's something true with that.

2515
02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure there is. I mean, it's steeped in history,

2516
02:13:17.319 --> 02:13:20.760
<v Speaker 2>like it's you know, in time. Time knows Latin more

2517
02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:23.079
<v Speaker 2>than English, right, mm hmm, so.

2518
02:13:23.279 --> 02:13:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Big facts, all right, so let's keep going.

2519
02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:30.079
<v Speaker 17>Francis did not formally change doctrine, but he opened the

2520
02:13:30.119 --> 02:13:34.199
<v Speaker 17>door to communion for divorces and blessings for same sex couples.

2521
02:13:34.760 --> 02:13:37.840
<v Speaker 17>He did not relax priestly celibacy rules or those on

2522
02:13:38.000 --> 02:13:42.399
<v Speaker 17>ordination of women deacons. The new pope will also need

2523
02:13:42.439 --> 02:13:46.680
<v Speaker 17>to perform a balancing act. Joshua McKelvey is Root's Vatican

2524
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:48.319
<v Speaker 17>correspondent at this point.

2525
02:13:48.399 --> 02:13:50.520
<v Speaker 16>It's very hard to know exactly how Pope Leo will

2526
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:53.159
<v Speaker 16>be Pope or what his major concerns will be. I

2527
02:13:53.159 --> 02:13:55.199
<v Speaker 16>think we can expect that he will kind of follow

2528
02:13:55.239 --> 02:13:57.319
<v Speaker 16>in the footsteps of Francis on many issues.

2529
02:13:58.000 --> 02:14:01.439
<v Speaker 4>That's scary in and of itself, but all right, let's

2530
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:01.880
<v Speaker 4>keep going.

2531
02:14:02.279 --> 02:14:04.399
<v Speaker 16>He was appointed by Paul Francis to come to Rome.

2532
02:14:04.600 --> 02:14:08.439
<v Speaker 16>They clearly had a good kind of loving, caring relationship.

2533
02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:11.079
<v Speaker 17>The Pope's flock is dwindling in Europe.

2534
02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Now we're talking about godless Europe question mark. They're talking

2535
02:14:15.079 --> 02:14:18.600
<v Speaker 4>about how Catholic attendees in Europe are down exponentially, and

2536
02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:20.319
<v Speaker 4>this is something else is going to have to field.

2537
02:14:20.560 --> 02:14:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you keep on importing Muslims, those numbers are

2538
02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:24.079
<v Speaker 2>going to continue to dwindle.

2539
02:14:24.640 --> 02:14:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, bro.

2540
02:14:25.560 --> 02:14:27.399
<v Speaker 4>There was another post that Charlie Kirk put up by

2541
02:14:27.399 --> 02:14:30.319
<v Speaker 4>ex I was like, man, the way that Pope Francis

2542
02:14:30.399 --> 02:14:33.119
<v Speaker 4>kept saying, please bring in more refugees and please let

2543
02:14:33.119 --> 02:14:35.880
<v Speaker 4>borders not be a thing. It's almost like they forgot

2544
02:14:35.920 --> 02:14:37.800
<v Speaker 4>that the Muslims and the Catholics have been at war

2545
02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:41.039
<v Speaker 4>for fourteen hundred years or whatever. But like, yeah, let's

2546
02:14:41.079 --> 02:14:43.079
<v Speaker 4>just keep seeing how this ball shakes out, you know,

2547
02:14:43.600 --> 02:14:46.439
<v Speaker 4>but let's listen what he's got to do with it now.

2548
02:14:46.640 --> 02:14:51.239
<v Speaker 17>Judged by church attendants and priestly vocations. Even though globally

2549
02:14:51.359 --> 02:14:54.840
<v Speaker 17>baptized Catholics keep increasing in number and to have surpassed

2550
02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:57.960
<v Speaker 17>the one point four billion mark, mostly thanks to growth

2551
02:14:58.000 --> 02:15:03.479
<v Speaker 17>in Africa, Germany, the EU's most populous nation, just twenty

2552
02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:07.319
<v Speaker 17>nine new priests were ordained in twenty twenty four, historic low.

2553
02:15:08.079 --> 02:15:11.159
<v Speaker 17>About three hundred and twenty one thousand German Catholics also

2554
02:15:11.279 --> 02:15:15.039
<v Speaker 17>left the church that year. According to the National Bishop's.

2555
02:15:14.560 --> 02:15:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Conference, three hundred and twenty one thousand Catholics left the.

2556
02:15:21.239 --> 02:15:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Church that year.

2557
02:15:23.399 --> 02:15:25.399
<v Speaker 2>They finally woke up. That's what that says to me.

2558
02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:31.039
<v Speaker 4>The vibe is changing, which, to be fair with you, right,

2559
02:15:31.720 --> 02:15:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Germany is where Martin Luther nailed his ethos to the door. Now,

2560
02:15:36.119 --> 02:15:39.920
<v Speaker 4>granted he still died a Catholic like he was. He

2561
02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:42.359
<v Speaker 4>did that and it caused a stir, but he was

2562
02:15:42.399 --> 02:15:45.600
<v Speaker 4>still a Catholic to the day he died. The Lutheran Church,

2563
02:15:45.680 --> 02:15:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the Protestant order that kind of spun off of that.

2564
02:15:48.279 --> 02:15:48.960
<v Speaker 3>In Germany.

2565
02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:52.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's still been a very you know, solid

2566
02:15:52.680 --> 02:15:55.479
<v Speaker 4>number of Catholics within Germany. Now, yes, I understand World

2567
02:15:55.479 --> 02:15:57.680
<v Speaker 4>War II kind of put a damper on that. Hitler

2568
02:15:57.720 --> 02:16:00.439
<v Speaker 4>did send Catholics to concentration camps and killed them as well.

2569
02:16:01.039 --> 02:16:05.600
<v Speaker 4>But Germany's always had a pretty solid Catholic foothold, and

2570
02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:10.720
<v Speaker 4>now they are losing numbers by the flock. And that

2571
02:16:11.279 --> 02:16:14.600
<v Speaker 4>just for this nation of Germany. Other European countries are

2572
02:16:14.600 --> 02:16:15.359
<v Speaker 4>seeing the same thing.

2573
02:16:15.399 --> 02:16:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

2574
02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:18.399
<v Speaker 2>So in the future, what do you think, all right?

2575
02:16:18.439 --> 02:16:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Because I personally think that more and more and more

2576
02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:26.680
<v Speaker 2>people are going to start to flee denominational churches at least,

2577
02:16:27.079 --> 02:16:29.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that more people are probably shifting

2578
02:16:29.079 --> 02:16:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to non denominational or just shifting away from religion altogether.

2579
02:16:32.680 --> 02:16:34.920
<v Speaker 2>That's just my own personal perspective. I know the numbers

2580
02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:39.239
<v Speaker 2>say otherwise, but I see more and more people, you know, nowadays,

2581
02:16:39.239 --> 02:16:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that just claim to be spiritual, They don't claim any

2582
02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:44.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of religion. But let's just say, hypothetically, in the

2583
02:16:44.760 --> 02:16:49.840
<v Speaker 2>future religion goes away completely. Just hypothetically speaking. I don't

2584
02:16:49.840 --> 02:16:52.399
<v Speaker 2>think it will, but let's just say hypothetically speaking that

2585
02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it does. What do you think happens to those badass cathedrals?

2586
02:16:57.360 --> 02:16:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Do you think, like what do you think they turn

2587
02:16:59.120 --> 02:16:59.680
<v Speaker 2>them into.

2588
02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:05.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, Uh, there have been quite a few, like old

2589
02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:08.719
<v Speaker 4>churches and cathedrals and stuff that get turned into like

2590
02:17:08.799 --> 02:17:13.399
<v Speaker 4>homeless shelters. Uh, they get turned into art exhibits or museums.

2591
02:17:14.879 --> 02:17:15.719
<v Speaker 3>The schools.

2592
02:17:16.079 --> 02:17:17.520
<v Speaker 4>I've seen a few of, the matter of fact, the

2593
02:17:17.600 --> 02:17:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Catholic church that I grew up in in Baton Rouge

2594
02:17:19.719 --> 02:17:22.760
<v Speaker 4>until we moved out to a central parish, Uh, it

2595
02:17:23.319 --> 02:17:28.000
<v Speaker 4>was turned into a college. And you know, the main

2596
02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:32.319
<v Speaker 4>the big sanctuary where the church would actually go down

2597
02:17:32.360 --> 02:17:33.879
<v Speaker 4>like there was a school attached to it. So it

2598
02:17:33.879 --> 02:17:36.040
<v Speaker 4>makes sense that one wud get turned into a school,

2599
02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:38.840
<v Speaker 4>but the main sanctuary got turned into a grand lecture hall.

2600
02:17:39.520 --> 02:17:42.079
<v Speaker 4>So I mean there's they'll find things to do with

2601
02:17:42.120 --> 02:17:43.879
<v Speaker 4>the building or they'll just tear them down. But like

2602
02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:45.280
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, you're not going to tear down like

2603
02:17:45.319 --> 02:17:48.639
<v Speaker 4>the old historic ones from like hundreds and hundreds of

2604
02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:52.520
<v Speaker 4>years ago kind of things. Those things turn into tourist

2605
02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:53.760
<v Speaker 4>attractions if nothing else.

2606
02:17:53.920 --> 02:17:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, and they're and they're well built, they're they're built

2607
02:17:56.200 --> 02:18:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to withstand like everything. Really, I mean they're out of

2608
02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:03.319
<v Speaker 2>like a stone and granted and thoughts.

2609
02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Until Notre Dame burned down I sure thought that bitch

2610
02:18:06.719 --> 02:18:08.319
<v Speaker 4>was made of stone and none could tear it down,

2611
02:18:08.319 --> 02:18:11.600
<v Speaker 4>But boil boy, was I wrong. Still, no real answer

2612
02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:14.000
<v Speaker 4>on to how that started. Either, they're saying it was

2613
02:18:14.000 --> 02:18:18.079
<v Speaker 4>an electrical fire from a freight extension cord or something.

2614
02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:20.959
<v Speaker 3>I've heard this, and I'm like, really.

2615
02:18:21.040 --> 02:18:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know jet fuel melted still beams in the

2616
02:18:23.680 --> 02:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>twin towers too, So.

2617
02:18:25.479 --> 02:18:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Right, I forgot this silly mead might be forgetting things.

2618
02:18:30.159 --> 02:18:34.360
<v Speaker 4>But I aside from just what the numbers are, because

2619
02:18:34.360 --> 02:18:38.079
<v Speaker 4>poles are very skewed, and I get that, I will

2620
02:18:38.159 --> 02:18:40.920
<v Speaker 4>say that, and it depends region of region very much so.

2621
02:18:42.159 --> 02:18:45.280
<v Speaker 4>But there is a shift going on in America right now.

2622
02:18:45.399 --> 02:18:47.399
<v Speaker 4>And yes, there are people that are more spiritual, but

2623
02:18:47.440 --> 02:18:51.319
<v Speaker 4>there are more people that are maybe brought up a

2624
02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:53.840
<v Speaker 4>certain religion and then kind of go away from it

2625
02:18:53.840 --> 02:18:55.639
<v Speaker 4>for a few years, and then whenever they have kids

2626
02:18:55.639 --> 02:18:58.680
<v Speaker 4>of their own, they like returned to the faith. And

2627
02:18:58.719 --> 02:19:03.239
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing a re urgency of traditional values, especially from

2628
02:19:03.319 --> 02:19:07.079
<v Speaker 4>the younger generation. The boomers fucked everything up so bad

2629
02:19:07.719 --> 02:19:11.680
<v Speaker 4>that it's almost like this next generation coming up ours

2630
02:19:11.719 --> 02:19:17.479
<v Speaker 4>on back want to embrace tradition, not modernality. In all

2631
02:19:17.559 --> 02:19:21.040
<v Speaker 4>this foolishness and I don't mean foolishness to say new agism.

2632
02:19:21.239 --> 02:19:23.319
<v Speaker 4>Even people that are saying like they don't even get

2633
02:19:23.319 --> 02:19:26.639
<v Speaker 4>down like evangelical Christendom and they would rather get to

2634
02:19:26.719 --> 02:19:31.159
<v Speaker 4>a more structured worship style service. There is a wave

2635
02:19:31.200 --> 02:19:34.200
<v Speaker 4>of that happening right now as well. Well, it's a

2636
02:19:34.239 --> 02:19:36.399
<v Speaker 4>crazy pendulum shift that's happening right now.

2637
02:19:36.479 --> 02:19:38.760
<v Speaker 2>The reason I brought that up as far as what

2638
02:19:38.959 --> 02:19:43.840
<v Speaker 2>could the future you know, churches look like, is mainly

2639
02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic churches and stuff, because they're the most badass ones.

2640
02:19:48.600 --> 02:19:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of people say that maybe the religions

2641
02:19:54.680 --> 02:19:59.200
<v Speaker 2>took over those buildings and kind of reformatted them in

2642
02:19:59.280 --> 02:20:01.559
<v Speaker 2>some kind of way. Some people say that actually it

2643
02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>was the uh you know, because if you look at

2644
02:20:04.040 --> 02:20:06.120
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of the older churches that are still

2645
02:20:06.200 --> 02:20:09.360
<v Speaker 2>up today, you see, like remember we showed the what

2646
02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:10.959
<v Speaker 2>was it like on the top there was like a

2647
02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>spire and it seemed like an energy harvesting building. You

2648
02:20:15.120 --> 02:20:19.159
<v Speaker 2>had the stained glass windows. You have just a lot

2649
02:20:19.159 --> 02:20:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of really weird things that you wouldn't necessarily expect from

2650
02:20:23.600 --> 02:20:27.959
<v Speaker 2>a religious foundational brick and mortar house.

2651
02:20:29.760 --> 02:20:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, personally, I like the stained glass windows, not

2652
02:20:32.280 --> 02:20:34.959
<v Speaker 4>just for the vibe of it, but because historically they

2653
02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.520
<v Speaker 4>started doing that because most of the people attending church

2654
02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:41.680
<v Speaker 4>services couldn't read, so they would have stained glass windows

2655
02:20:41.680 --> 02:20:44.520
<v Speaker 4>and like paintings to show the stories that they were

2656
02:20:44.559 --> 02:20:47.360
<v Speaker 4>preaching about as a way to like, you know, go

2657
02:20:47.399 --> 02:20:50.120
<v Speaker 4>the extra mile with it. And then of course because

2658
02:20:50.120 --> 02:20:53.319
<v Speaker 4>the lights shining in, that's like think of a stage production.

2659
02:20:53.399 --> 02:20:55.520
<v Speaker 4>If you go to a concert these days, you're gonna

2660
02:20:55.520 --> 02:20:57.200
<v Speaker 4>have lights coming in from all directions with all the

2661
02:20:57.239 --> 02:21:00.639
<v Speaker 4>colors and stuff. They had that in the Middle Ages

2662
02:21:00.719 --> 02:21:02.639
<v Speaker 4>with stained glass windows in a church service.

2663
02:21:02.799 --> 02:21:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I I've always kind of liked that, honestly.

2664
02:21:05.239 --> 02:21:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's mainly for the uh people believe it's because

2665
02:21:08.840 --> 02:21:12.159
<v Speaker 2>of the resonant frequency from the bells as well. And

2666
02:21:12.200 --> 02:21:13.959
<v Speaker 2>if you go back, was it world War one or

2667
02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:16.360
<v Speaker 2>World War two that they were allegedly like taking the

2668
02:21:16.399 --> 02:21:19.959
<v Speaker 2>bells out of churches to make bullets, which it seems

2669
02:21:20.079 --> 02:21:23.200
<v Speaker 2>really silly, like to me, that doesn't make any damn sense.

2670
02:21:23.239 --> 02:21:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Why would you take church bells of all things? Because

2671
02:21:25.879 --> 02:21:28.079
<v Speaker 2>people will look into those certain types of church bells

2672
02:21:28.360 --> 02:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and the frequency that they were resonating resonating at were

2673
02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:34.559
<v Speaker 2>like this healing type frequency you know, not like you're

2674
02:21:34.559 --> 02:21:36.479
<v Speaker 2>going to go in there and like you're cancer. Oh

2675
02:21:36.559 --> 02:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe your cancer gone, but if you go in

2676
02:21:38.799 --> 02:21:40.559
<v Speaker 2>there with a fucking broken kneecap, it's probably not going

2677
02:21:40.600 --> 02:21:42.879
<v Speaker 2>to replace itself. Point is, it's like it could have

2678
02:21:42.920 --> 02:21:45.040
<v Speaker 2>been given off like four hundred and thirty two herds,

2679
02:21:45.040 --> 02:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>so you know, one of the Fibonacci sequences numbers that

2680
02:21:49.079 --> 02:21:51.319
<v Speaker 2>could have been going on in there, and they seem

2681
02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:53.319
<v Speaker 2>to do away with that because of war, which makes

2682
02:21:53.319 --> 02:21:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense because that's about as out of

2683
02:21:55.639 --> 02:21:57.079
<v Speaker 2>frequency as you can possibly get.

2684
02:21:57.760 --> 02:22:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I knew that they were also taken down in Notre Damp,

2685
02:22:00.000 --> 02:22:03.680
<v Speaker 4>for instance, all the crazy huge sanin glass windows and stuff.

2686
02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:06.159
<v Speaker 4>They took that down in place that inside of the

2687
02:22:06.200 --> 02:22:08.000
<v Speaker 4>church during World War Two because they didn't want it

2688
02:22:08.040 --> 02:22:11.159
<v Speaker 4>to get damaged from bombings and air raids that were happening.

2689
02:22:11.719 --> 02:22:13.879
<v Speaker 4>The bells got taken down for the same purpose. I've

2690
02:22:13.920 --> 02:22:16.319
<v Speaker 4>never heard that they were taking them down to make bullets.

2691
02:22:16.520 --> 02:22:18.479
<v Speaker 2>And it was the brass and trying to make them

2692
02:22:18.520 --> 02:22:19.840
<v Speaker 2>into brass bullets and shit.

2693
02:22:20.959 --> 02:22:25.680
<v Speaker 3>That sounds preposterous to me. Yeah, and that was actually heard.

2694
02:22:25.520 --> 02:22:26.719
<v Speaker 2>That that's an American thing.

2695
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:30.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh, we're talking about like, okay, I'm talking about

2696
02:22:30.079 --> 02:22:31.799
<v Speaker 4>in Europe where the bombers were happening. In America they

2697
02:22:31.799 --> 02:22:33.479
<v Speaker 4>were taking down the bells to make bullets for the

2698
02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:34.959
<v Speaker 4>rationing for the war and shit.

2699
02:22:34.920 --> 02:22:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep, huh. I don't I can't remember if it was

2700
02:22:37.680 --> 02:22:39.719
<v Speaker 2>World War One or World War Two. Probably world War one,

2701
02:22:39.719 --> 02:22:41.559
<v Speaker 2>if I had to guess, I don't think.

2702
02:22:41.479 --> 02:22:43.440
<v Speaker 4>World War two because that was when like the big

2703
02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:45.559
<v Speaker 4>push and the big rationing and like everybody with the

2704
02:22:46.120 --> 02:22:48.719
<v Speaker 4>war effort, Rosie the River, yes we can and that

2705
02:22:48.760 --> 02:22:49.319
<v Speaker 4>whole thing.

2706
02:22:49.399 --> 02:22:51.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, it could have been.

2707
02:22:51.159 --> 02:22:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

2708
02:22:51.760 --> 02:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll find out. But yeah, that's that's for sure

2709
02:22:53.719 --> 02:22:55.559
<v Speaker 2>a fact that I remember reading about that.

2710
02:22:56.479 --> 02:22:58.920
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, as far as Europe goes, they're talking

2711
02:22:58.959 --> 02:23:01.600
<v Speaker 4>about people's church attendance going down in Europe, and I mean,

2712
02:23:01.639 --> 02:23:03.479
<v Speaker 4>to be fair, we're talking about America as well. We

2713
02:23:03.520 --> 02:23:06.000
<v Speaker 4>have an American pope, and we're talking about how American

2714
02:23:06.040 --> 02:23:09.479
<v Speaker 4>culture does kind of shift the world's opinion on culture

2715
02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:12.600
<v Speaker 4>and things. I don't know, man, I don't know exactly

2716
02:23:12.639 --> 02:23:14.479
<v Speaker 4>what the future holds. I see that a lot of

2717
02:23:14.520 --> 02:23:17.559
<v Speaker 4>people are leaving traditional religions, but I see a lot

2718
02:23:17.559 --> 02:23:23.399
<v Speaker 4>of people also embracing tradition and saying fuck modernity as

2719
02:23:23.440 --> 02:23:26.440
<v Speaker 4>a whole, because they have found that modernity only leads

2720
02:23:26.479 --> 02:23:30.280
<v Speaker 4>to temporary happiness, and there's a possibility that tradition can

2721
02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:34.280
<v Speaker 4>lead to longstanding happiness. And you know how you want

2722
02:23:34.319 --> 02:23:36.239
<v Speaker 4>to bring up your kids? Do you want to bring

2723
02:23:36.280 --> 02:23:38.200
<v Speaker 4>them up not really knowing what the fuck is up?

2724
02:23:38.280 --> 02:23:40.280
<v Speaker 4>If you had a good upbringing and you were like

2725
02:23:40.319 --> 02:23:42.360
<v Speaker 4>a church kid, it would make sense that you would

2726
02:23:42.360 --> 02:23:44.440
<v Speaker 4>want to get your kids in church because you know

2727
02:23:44.559 --> 02:23:46.639
<v Speaker 4>that that's like a system that works as far as

2728
02:23:46.680 --> 02:23:50.079
<v Speaker 4>rearing a happy, healthy family. If you're somebody that had

2729
02:23:50.120 --> 02:23:52.600
<v Speaker 4>a really bad church experience, you want to keep your

2730
02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:55.440
<v Speaker 4>kids as far away from that as possible. So it's

2731
02:23:55.200 --> 02:23:57.719
<v Speaker 4>there's a pendulum shift going on right now, and I

2732
02:23:57.760 --> 02:23:59.280
<v Speaker 4>really don't know how it's going to shake out in

2733
02:23:59.280 --> 02:24:01.680
<v Speaker 4>the next ten to two years, but it's interesting.

2734
02:24:01.280 --> 02:24:04.360
<v Speaker 2>To watch, Okay. So it says during both World Wars,

2735
02:24:04.399 --> 02:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>many church bells were taken down and melted to produce

2736
02:24:07.239 --> 02:24:10.840
<v Speaker 2>metal for weapons, including bullets and artillery. This practice was

2737
02:24:10.879 --> 02:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>particularly widespread in Germany, also, where a significant percentage of

2738
02:24:15.760 --> 02:24:17.639
<v Speaker 2>bells were lost to support war efforts.

2739
02:24:18.680 --> 02:24:21.000
<v Speaker 4>I could believe that seeing as how Germany was the

2740
02:24:21.040 --> 02:24:26.159
<v Speaker 4>belligerent on both of those wars, and they neither of

2741
02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:30.639
<v Speaker 4>those times did the Kaiser or Hitler feel favorably about,

2742
02:24:30.799 --> 02:24:34.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, Catholic church bells and things that makes perfect sense.

2743
02:24:34.000 --> 02:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually out loud, yeah, it says, without knowing the exact source,

2744
02:24:37.120 --> 02:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it says ten thousand church bells. Claim that it said

2745
02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that they took down ten thousand church bells. Holy shit.

2746
02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:49.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Actually Germany Hitler cannibalizing church bells to make bullets.

2747
02:24:50.079 --> 02:24:51.319
<v Speaker 3>I see that one hundred percent.

2748
02:24:51.520 --> 02:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Yep. It says you need copper in large quantities to

2749
02:24:53.840 --> 02:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>make jackets for bullets, brass for small arms, and artillery

2750
02:24:56.639 --> 02:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>cartridges and telegraph wire.

2751
02:25:00.239 --> 02:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Ah. Good old Germany out there doing the mostest.

2752
02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:06.040
<v Speaker 4>And as we are talking about Germany, they're talking about

2753
02:25:06.040 --> 02:25:07.559
<v Speaker 4>the Catholic Church in Germany today.

2754
02:25:07.799 --> 02:25:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's listen more.

2755
02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:14.319
<v Speaker 17>When it came to diplomacy, Francis, the first pope from

2756
02:25:14.360 --> 02:25:17.920
<v Speaker 17>the global self, was not afraid to ruffle Western feathers.

2757
02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:21.200
<v Speaker 17>He spoke out on climate change and was a critic

2758
02:25:21.280 --> 02:25:25.360
<v Speaker 17>of tough European and US immigration policies, putting himself at

2759
02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:29.319
<v Speaker 17>odds with US President Donald Trump. The new Pontiff has

2760
02:25:29.319 --> 02:25:33.319
<v Speaker 17>a history of criticizing Trump and Vice President JD. Vance's policies,

2761
02:25:33.760 --> 02:25:36.680
<v Speaker 17>according to posts on the ex account of Robert Prevost

2762
02:25:36.920 --> 02:25:37.719
<v Speaker 17>his real name.

2763
02:25:38.799 --> 02:25:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so he already has a track record, even though

2764
02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:47.600
<v Speaker 4>he's a registered Republican and voted Republican on all the

2765
02:25:47.600 --> 02:25:50.120
<v Speaker 4>time whe he voted in the United States. I actually

2766
02:25:50.120 --> 02:25:52.479
<v Speaker 4>couldn't find one example of him voting Democrat as a

2767
02:25:52.520 --> 02:25:55.959
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact. But all that to say, he takes

2768
02:25:55.959 --> 02:25:57.799
<v Speaker 4>a hard stance against Trump and JD.

2769
02:25:58.000 --> 02:25:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Vance.

2770
02:25:58.920 --> 02:26:01.959
<v Speaker 4>Let it be known that the vast majority of Americans

2771
02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:06.959
<v Speaker 4>love Trump's immigration policy, like the vast majority.

2772
02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>So he loved old guard Republican then mm hmm.

2773
02:26:12.559 --> 02:26:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I think his d kind of.

2774
02:26:13.760 --> 02:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Republican, the George Bush kind of Republican.

2775
02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:19.399
<v Speaker 4>But I mean even still, the George Bush Republican was

2776
02:26:19.399 --> 02:26:24.639
<v Speaker 4>a warmongering Republican. But he had decent border policies. Yeah,

2777
02:26:24.639 --> 02:26:27.239
<v Speaker 4>we had legals coming over, but it wasn't on mass

2778
02:26:27.239 --> 02:26:29.920
<v Speaker 4>like it was during Biden, with apps showing them the

2779
02:26:29.920 --> 02:26:32.760
<v Speaker 4>way of how to evade ice and shit and border patrol.

2780
02:26:33.280 --> 02:26:35.760
<v Speaker 4>So Trump is sending these people back to where they belong,

2781
02:26:36.079 --> 02:26:39.159
<v Speaker 4>which the vast majority of Americans support, and want to

2782
02:26:39.159 --> 02:26:45.200
<v Speaker 4>see happen. Meanwhile, Francis being from uh was Venezuela or Argentina?

2783
02:26:45.239 --> 02:26:49.559
<v Speaker 4>I forget Argentina, and then your boy Leo spinning over

2784
02:26:49.600 --> 02:26:53.280
<v Speaker 4>a decade in Peru. They're saying like, why don't you

2785
02:26:53.360 --> 02:26:57.319
<v Speaker 4>just let all the immigrants through? So again, I feel

2786
02:26:57.360 --> 02:26:59.159
<v Speaker 4>like that's kind of not the vibe you want to

2787
02:26:59.200 --> 02:27:03.159
<v Speaker 4>take it this time, Francis and Leo, especially as Europe

2788
02:27:03.159 --> 02:27:05.879
<v Speaker 4>has their own immigrant crisis right now that people are

2789
02:27:05.920 --> 02:27:09.120
<v Speaker 4>like being gang raped and murdered over and then we

2790
02:27:09.159 --> 02:27:12.840
<v Speaker 4>had the situation in America that we could spend episode

2791
02:27:12.879 --> 02:27:16.120
<v Speaker 4>after episode talking about what the crazy immigration policy in

2792
02:27:16.159 --> 02:27:18.760
<v Speaker 4>America has led to and why we need this hard

2793
02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:22.200
<v Speaker 4>line send everybody back to where the fuck they belong situation.

2794
02:27:23.120 --> 02:27:26.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so he's echoing that right now. He's echoing

2795
02:27:26.680 --> 02:27:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Francis's vibes.

2796
02:27:28.239 --> 02:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Dude. So if he was voting, I don't know the

2797
02:27:32.120 --> 02:27:33.719
<v Speaker 2>years that he was voting. I was just trying to

2798
02:27:33.719 --> 02:27:36.959
<v Speaker 2>think about the presidents that were running in the past

2799
02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:41.479
<v Speaker 2>before Trump. But you had Mitt Romney, John McCain. It'd

2800
02:27:41.520 --> 02:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>be interesting if you voted for Romney because Romney is

2801
02:27:44.559 --> 02:27:48.479
<v Speaker 2>a Mormon. What do you think that what is the

2802
02:27:48.639 --> 02:27:50.959
<v Speaker 2>Catholics views on Mormonism.

2803
02:27:51.440 --> 02:27:55.319
<v Speaker 3>They're the Mountain Jews. Okay, you know they.

2804
02:27:57.799 --> 02:28:01.920
<v Speaker 4>They're kind of like, I don't want to piss off nobody,

2805
02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:06.040
<v Speaker 4>but also it is what it is, So they view

2806
02:28:06.159 --> 02:28:08.879
<v Speaker 4>them the same way that we view them. They are

2807
02:28:09.319 --> 02:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>reading the Old Testament, which is good, they're reading the

2808
02:28:11.799 --> 02:28:14.079
<v Speaker 4>New Testament, which is good, and then they're reading that

2809
02:28:14.159 --> 02:28:16.440
<v Speaker 4>other book that was made by a con man that

2810
02:28:16.600 --> 02:28:20.360
<v Speaker 4>is steering them way off course. Now I'm not saying

2811
02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:25.200
<v Speaker 4>that Mormons can't achieve true salvation. I believe that's possible,

2812
02:28:25.479 --> 02:28:27.879
<v Speaker 4>but only if they negate every single thing that Joseph

2813
02:28:27.879 --> 02:28:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Smith and Brigham Young said.

2814
02:28:30.559 --> 02:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, yeah, I found it. So what does the Catholic

2815
02:28:33.360 --> 02:28:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Church say about the practices and beliefs on Mormonism. While

2816
02:28:36.360 --> 02:28:40.799
<v Speaker 2>individual Mormons may be persons of good conscious, Mormonism itself

2817
02:28:40.879 --> 02:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>is a belief system that would reduce the Father, of

2818
02:28:42.920 --> 02:28:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the Son, and the Holy Spirit from being three persons

2819
02:28:45.600 --> 02:28:48.879
<v Speaker 2>of the one True and infinite God to being three limited,

2820
02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>finite deities among an uncounted multitude of deities, all of

2821
02:28:52.799 --> 02:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>whom merely reshape small parts of a pre existing cosmos.

2822
02:28:57.959 --> 02:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Mormonism teaches that human being may, by practicing the tenets

2823
02:29:02.719 --> 02:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>of its faith, become gods and goddesses themselves with their

2824
02:29:07.040 --> 02:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>own planets full of people worship me worshiping them. I

2825
02:29:09.600 --> 02:29:10.559
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that part.

2826
02:29:10.799 --> 02:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2827
02:29:11.239 --> 02:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>So, like I said, a Mormon can achieve true salvation

2828
02:29:15.360 --> 02:29:17.159
<v Speaker 4>and have their name written into the Book of Life

2829
02:29:17.159 --> 02:29:18.879
<v Speaker 4>and be assolved with their sins and all this stuff

2830
02:29:19.239 --> 02:29:23.600
<v Speaker 4>if they negate every single word that was uttered from

2831
02:29:23.680 --> 02:29:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and their Council of Nine

2832
02:29:26.799 --> 02:29:28.520
<v Speaker 4>and they're their elders and all that, they just like

2833
02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:31.920
<v Speaker 4>negate all of that and only read like the actual

2834
02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Bible and just take away the Book of Mormon and

2835
02:29:34.200 --> 02:29:35.840
<v Speaker 4>just kind of put that on a shelf somewhere and

2836
02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:37.000
<v Speaker 4>never open it again.

2837
02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:38.879
<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, they could. They're good. They're solid.

2838
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>By the way, we introduced a new segment onto The

2839
02:29:42.559 --> 02:29:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Cult of Conspiracy that is coming out every Sunday. So

2840
02:29:45.600 --> 02:29:48.159
<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to this on Monday, which is when

2841
02:29:48.200 --> 02:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be coming out, then you just possibly

2842
02:29:50.360 --> 02:29:55.559
<v Speaker 2>heard yesterday's episode, which was a Sunday rewind. It's almost

2843
02:29:55.600 --> 02:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like a flashback Friday or a throwback Thursday or whatever.

2844
02:29:59.639 --> 02:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>But we're putting it on Sundays just for people, you

2845
02:30:02.559 --> 02:30:05.319
<v Speaker 2>know who maybe newcomers and you don't have time to

2846
02:30:05.360 --> 02:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>go back and maybe you're not caught up. We're lighting.

2847
02:30:08.280 --> 02:30:12.079
<v Speaker 2>We're putting these episodes up because we referenced them a lot,

2848
02:30:12.120 --> 02:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and we just want people to understand some of the

2849
02:30:14.079 --> 02:30:17.079
<v Speaker 2>things that we say about, you know, prior topics or

2850
02:30:17.159 --> 02:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>prior conversations that we've had with other guests and stuff

2851
02:30:19.639 --> 02:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. So the first Sunday rewind is actually the

2852
02:30:24.959 --> 02:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>first episode that we had with the girl Heidi Love

2853
02:30:28.079 --> 02:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>exposing the Mormon Church.

2854
02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:34.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes, indeed, that was a banger of an episode on

2855
02:30:34.440 --> 02:30:38.040
<v Speaker 4>mine d She comes with some fire with some vinegar

2856
02:30:38.559 --> 02:30:40.600
<v Speaker 4>because she's got a bone to pick with them because

2857
02:30:40.600 --> 02:30:43.000
<v Speaker 4>of all of what she experienced growing up, which, like, yo.

2858
02:30:43.159 --> 02:30:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I get it, dude, she was a Mormon for thirty

2859
02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>five years.

2860
02:30:47.440 --> 02:30:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2861
02:30:48.239 --> 02:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she saw the light though, and she's a lot

2862
02:30:50.719 --> 02:30:53.079
<v Speaker 4>better for it, and she is killing it as far

2863
02:30:53.079 --> 02:30:54.120
<v Speaker 4>as the content is concerned.

2864
02:30:54.159 --> 02:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Thinking about doing that for thirty dude, I just turned

2865
02:30:56.440 --> 02:31:00.479
<v Speaker 2>thirty five years old. That means literally my entire life

2866
02:31:01.200 --> 02:31:03.479
<v Speaker 2>of worth of years she was a Mormon. That's a

2867
02:31:03.639 --> 02:31:04.639
<v Speaker 2>long ass time.

2868
02:31:05.399 --> 02:31:07.559
<v Speaker 4>But then can you imagine living that life for that

2869
02:31:07.639 --> 02:31:10.520
<v Speaker 4>long and then waking up one day and realizing that

2870
02:31:10.639 --> 02:31:15.200
<v Speaker 4>everything you've lived is incorrect and like changing everything about

2871
02:31:15.239 --> 02:31:18.920
<v Speaker 4>you to like to fix and change course.

2872
02:31:19.639 --> 02:31:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Still a Christian, bro Still a Christian, just not a Mormon.

2873
02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:24.399
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, no, she acknowledges truth.

2874
02:31:24.559 --> 02:31:28.280
<v Speaker 4>She just has left behind the eyes, which is wonderful

2875
02:31:28.319 --> 02:31:31.959
<v Speaker 4>for her. And again, no hatred towards the Mormons out

2876
02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:33.840
<v Speaker 4>there that may or may not be listening. We love

2877
02:31:33.879 --> 02:31:37.799
<v Speaker 4>you all, okay, and we're praying for everybody of all feaths, Mormon,

2878
02:31:37.920 --> 02:31:41.239
<v Speaker 4>non a nominational, Catholic, Muslims. You were praying for everybody here,

2879
02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:45.840
<v Speaker 4>But you know, a little bit of reflection into the

2880
02:31:45.840 --> 02:31:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Holy Book that you claim, I feel like would go

2881
02:31:48.239 --> 02:31:48.799
<v Speaker 4>a long way.

2882
02:31:49.280 --> 02:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you think that Jacob is being

2883
02:31:51.120 --> 02:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit unfair by calling out other religions, trust me,

2884
02:31:56.000 --> 02:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm the same exact way, except for I do it

2885
02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>for all religions, So you can hate both of us

2886
02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:03.719
<v Speaker 2>on that. I think they're all demn like just silly.

2887
02:32:04.959 --> 02:32:07.280
<v Speaker 4>That's why I teach their religion that I get down with.

2888
02:32:07.280 --> 02:32:08.760
<v Speaker 4>I got a book I get down with, but it's

2889
02:32:08.799 --> 02:32:11.040
<v Speaker 4>not a religion, you know very well. I believe in

2890
02:32:11.079 --> 02:32:13.239
<v Speaker 4>ever in a relationship with my Savior, and I don't

2891
02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>believe I got to go through a third party to

2892
02:32:14.879 --> 02:32:16.680
<v Speaker 4>get there, Like there was a third party.

2893
02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>He died.

2894
02:32:17.280 --> 02:32:20.040
<v Speaker 4>The whole thing rose again that that was the third

2895
02:32:20.040 --> 02:32:21.079
<v Speaker 4>party that I believe.

2896
02:32:21.159 --> 02:32:24.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, what he wasn't even necessarily the third party

2897
02:32:24.799 --> 02:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>if you really think about it. I mean, if the

2898
02:32:26.559 --> 02:32:29.639
<v Speaker 2>story goes that he encompassed God himself, he can't really

2899
02:32:29.639 --> 02:32:31.360
<v Speaker 2>be a third party. If you're a Christian.

2900
02:32:31.440 --> 02:32:36.559
<v Speaker 3>He was preach on it. Yes, that is correct.

2901
02:32:36.760 --> 02:32:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Hey, i'd be learning, you do be learning?

2902
02:32:39.399 --> 02:32:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah?

2903
02:32:40.239 --> 02:32:42.479
<v Speaker 4>All right, So basically the last little bit here is

2904
02:32:42.520 --> 02:32:46.639
<v Speaker 4>talking about the social issues, the immigration, these things. Okay,

2905
02:32:46.680 --> 02:32:49.959
<v Speaker 4>so he's got his hands full with what he is

2906
02:32:50.000 --> 02:32:51.239
<v Speaker 4>walking into right now.

2907
02:32:51.799 --> 02:32:54.719
<v Speaker 3>And as he has his hands full on all of this,

2908
02:32:55.479 --> 02:33:00.399
<v Speaker 3>we already have criticism for clergy sexual abuse. That he

2909
02:33:00.479 --> 02:33:02.159
<v Speaker 3>turned a blind eyetube.

2910
02:33:02.360 --> 02:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>There we go. That's stepping in line. That's a that's

2911
02:33:05.479 --> 02:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a pulp for you right there, buddy.

2912
02:33:07.799 --> 02:33:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I'm just saying I don't like it.

2913
02:33:11.840 --> 02:33:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, it's hold on, this is the guy

2914
02:33:16.239 --> 02:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that is closest to God. I mean, if he says

2915
02:33:19.840 --> 02:33:22.840
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, God must must think that it's okay then right,

2916
02:33:23.600 --> 02:33:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Some people say.

2917
02:33:24.360 --> 02:33:28.079
<v Speaker 4>So, So Jacob's not one of those people. But there,

2918
02:33:28.239 --> 02:33:31.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, there, he's not saying it's okay. Let me

2919
02:33:31.920 --> 02:33:34.479
<v Speaker 4>make that clear now, Pope Leo has never said that

2920
02:33:35.159 --> 02:33:38.639
<v Speaker 4>abusing children or taking advantage of your position within the

2921
02:33:38.719 --> 02:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>church orny that He's never said that that's okay or acceptable.

2922
02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Sure, he's also never done anything about it.

2923
02:33:44.520 --> 02:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>He never said anything about it negatively either. He has

2924
02:33:48.479 --> 02:33:50.520
<v Speaker 4>turned a blind eye, he has turned a cold shoulder,

2925
02:33:50.760 --> 02:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and he has never actually addressed anything.

2926
02:33:53.079 --> 02:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know what I mean, he does just learn

2927
02:33:54.719 --> 02:33:56.559
<v Speaker 2>about it, is it because he doesn't want to throw

2928
02:33:56.639 --> 02:33:57.760
<v Speaker 2>himself under the bus.

2929
02:33:59.040 --> 02:34:02.000
<v Speaker 4>I As of this moment, there's no evidence to back that.

2930
02:34:02.520 --> 02:34:05.600
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not saying there's a zero percent chance, but

2931
02:34:05.760 --> 02:34:09.399
<v Speaker 4>as of now, nothing nobody's come forward and said that

2932
02:34:09.440 --> 02:34:12.239
<v Speaker 4>he ever did anything or abuse them or nothing like that.

2933
02:34:12.799 --> 02:34:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Every bit of evidence that I have found about him

2934
02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:17.280
<v Speaker 4>says that he's been a solid guy, you know, a

2935
02:34:17.319 --> 02:34:21.600
<v Speaker 4>solid man of the cloth, good priest, good bishop, reached

2936
02:34:21.639 --> 02:34:23.479
<v Speaker 4>out for the poor, the whole nine. So like he

2937
02:34:23.920 --> 02:34:27.600
<v Speaker 4>seems like a solid gint. But he's also never done

2938
02:34:27.639 --> 02:34:31.399
<v Speaker 4>anything to make waves in this regard as you would

2939
02:34:31.440 --> 02:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>want to like stand opposed to these monsters and be like, no,

2940
02:34:34.959 --> 02:34:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I damn them, I rebuke them. That is not what

2941
02:34:39.879 --> 02:34:42.479
<v Speaker 4>we believe, and like even give a statement on behalf

2942
02:34:42.600 --> 02:34:45.399
<v Speaker 4>of the situation. Or you could stick your head in

2943
02:34:45.399 --> 02:34:47.040
<v Speaker 4>the sand and stick your fingers in your ears and

2944
02:34:47.040 --> 02:34:49.479
<v Speaker 4>go la la, la la la, which is more like

2945
02:34:49.520 --> 02:34:50.959
<v Speaker 4>what you know. Let's just read about it.

2946
02:34:51.239 --> 02:34:56.799
<v Speaker 2>As many celebrate Cardinal Robert Francis prevos historic selection as Pope,

2947
02:34:56.840 --> 02:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>the world's largest organization for clergy sexual abuse victim is

2948
02:35:00.360 --> 02:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>worried about the Pontiff's past handling of sexual abuse cases

2949
02:35:03.479 --> 02:35:05.879
<v Speaker 2>and called on him to take a tougher stance on

2950
02:35:05.920 --> 02:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the issue that has long plagued the Roman Catholic Church.

2951
02:35:09.200 --> 02:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>The Survivor's Network of Those Abused by Priests SNAP. I

2952
02:35:13.559 --> 02:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>can't believe they have an entire organization, that's how bad

2953
02:35:18.040 --> 02:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>it is in the Catholic Church. They had to build

2954
02:35:21.120 --> 02:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a foundation for people who have been abused by priests.

2955
02:35:24.639 --> 02:35:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Think how sick that is?

2956
02:35:26.319 --> 02:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, oh yes, this is a real thing for sure.

2957
02:35:29.760 --> 02:35:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, It's called SNAP, a network that says it represents

2958
02:35:33.239 --> 02:35:39.079
<v Speaker 2>more than twenty five thousand victims and supporters worldwide released

2959
02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a statement on the day of Pope Leo the fourteenth selection,

2960
02:35:42.000 --> 02:35:45.559
<v Speaker 2>expressing grave concern and urging him to enact a truly universal,

2961
02:35:45.639 --> 02:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>zero tolerance law for sexual abuse and cover up. Chicago

2962
02:35:49.559 --> 02:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>born pontiff was chosen to lead the Vatican on May eighth,

2963
02:35:52.920 --> 02:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>just one day after the conclave to pick a successor

2964
02:35:55.239 --> 02:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>to the late Pope Francis began Prevost to sixty nine.

2965
02:35:58.280 --> 02:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Born and raised in Chicago, went on to spend most

2966
02:36:00.959 --> 02:36:03.040
<v Speaker 2>of his career in Peru, first as a missionary and

2967
02:36:03.079 --> 02:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>then as a bishop. He has a dual citizenship with Peru.

2968
02:36:07.879 --> 02:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Prevous ascension. We kind of covered a lot of this already,

2969
02:36:10.559 --> 02:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>but we'll just go over it. So Privos' ascension resurface

2970
02:36:13.760 --> 02:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>concerns about his record on clergy sexual abuse during his

2971
02:36:17.520 --> 02:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>tenure in Chicago and in Peru, including that he failed

2972
02:36:21.079 --> 02:36:26.479
<v Speaker 2>to do enough to address victim's allegations. Indeed, Sir, in

2973
02:36:26.600 --> 02:36:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Chicago and Peru, he got a questioned on both of

2974
02:36:29.639 --> 02:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>those places.

2975
02:36:30.639 --> 02:36:33.399
<v Speaker 4>It's not that he who was implemented or accused, it's

2976
02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:35.760
<v Speaker 4>that he didn't do enough whenever a victim would come

2977
02:36:35.840 --> 02:36:38.120
<v Speaker 4>forward to push it to the levels that needed to

2978
02:36:38.120 --> 02:36:39.559
<v Speaker 4>go to or take it serious enough.

2979
02:36:40.079 --> 02:36:42.479
<v Speaker 3>He just kind of turned away from them.

2980
02:36:43.200 --> 02:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, if you're a pope, that has to

2981
02:36:45.559 --> 02:36:50.319
<v Speaker 2>be the first one of the first things that you do.

2982
02:36:51.360 --> 02:36:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Did you notice that when they gave that list of

2983
02:36:53.639 --> 02:36:56.360
<v Speaker 4>everything he needs to face right now? The first thing

2984
02:36:56.600 --> 02:36:59.719
<v Speaker 4>would be the ninety three million dollar deficit. The next

2985
02:36:59.760 --> 02:37:02.840
<v Speaker 4>thing is the children, Like, get fucked.

2986
02:37:04.280 --> 02:37:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think that deficit comes from. It comes

2987
02:37:06.399 --> 02:37:08.959
<v Speaker 2>from paying off all the fucking families from child abuse.

2988
02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>No, they don't pay them off. They don't pay them off.

2989
02:37:12.200 --> 02:37:14.040
<v Speaker 4>They just tell them that they're doing something to the

2990
02:37:14.079 --> 02:37:16.879
<v Speaker 4>priest and then they rotate them out like five parishes

2991
02:37:16.879 --> 02:37:18.200
<v Speaker 4>away where nobody knows his name.

2992
02:37:18.319 --> 02:37:18.479
<v Speaker 8>No.

2993
02:37:18.600 --> 02:37:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Remember, we did a show a couple of years ago

2994
02:37:20.719 --> 02:37:23.879
<v Speaker 2>where somebody came on and was talking about the amount

2995
02:37:23.959 --> 02:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>of money that has been dished out to victims of

2996
02:37:27.920 --> 02:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>rape abuse rape abuse from the church. It was in

2997
02:37:30.879 --> 02:37:31.799
<v Speaker 2>the millions.

2998
02:37:32.120 --> 02:37:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I could believe that.

2999
02:37:33.959 --> 02:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>It was like it was like like one hundred and

3000
02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars per day that it came out on

3001
02:37:39.319 --> 02:37:41.479
<v Speaker 2>average that the church is dishing out to victims. It

3002
02:37:41.559 --> 02:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>was something crazy.

3003
02:37:43.600 --> 02:37:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

3004
02:37:45.239 --> 02:37:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, it's it's pretty wild, but anyway, it

3005
02:37:47.520 --> 02:37:50.879
<v Speaker 2>says the Vatican has denied previous engaged in any wrongdoing,

3006
02:37:50.959 --> 02:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>and the former cardinal has drawn plaudits in other cases

3007
02:37:54.200 --> 02:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>for helping address abuse threats. He has also advocated for

3008
02:37:57.280 --> 02:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>more transparency on the topic from the Church and an

3009
02:37:59.760 --> 02:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>inner view with the Peruvian newspaper La Republica. He has

3010
02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>denounced clergy sexual abuse and urged victims to come forward.

3011
02:38:06.879 --> 02:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And Peru he helped dissolve an ultra conservative Catholic movement

3012
02:38:10.319 --> 02:38:17.040
<v Speaker 2>solid sodality of Christian life after investigations uncovered years of

3013
02:38:17.040 --> 02:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>sexual abuses, corruption, and mismanagement. According to the Vatican News,

3014
02:38:21.079 --> 02:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>still survivors are worried he will not take enough stance

3015
02:38:25.040 --> 02:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to eradicate abuse within the church.

3016
02:38:28.079 --> 02:38:30.399
<v Speaker 4>That's him actually, as a younger man standing next to

3017
02:38:30.520 --> 02:38:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Pope John Paul the Second, now canonized as a saint.

3018
02:38:34.760 --> 02:38:37.680
<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about some cases in Chicago and Peru

3019
02:38:38.040 --> 02:38:41.079
<v Speaker 4>that spur questions of accountability and transparency.

3020
02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>While Provos led the Augustinians in Chicago in two thousand,

3021
02:38:44.719 --> 02:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a priest whose former ministry years earlier had been restricted

3022
02:38:49.079 --> 02:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>over allegations of child abuse, moved into an Augustinian monastery

3023
02:38:53.040 --> 02:38:58.360
<v Speaker 2>near a Catholic elementary school. Wait a second, yeah, a priest.

3024
02:38:59.120 --> 02:39:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Wait was he the priest that No?

3025
02:39:01.639 --> 02:39:02.079
<v Speaker 3>No, no.

3026
02:39:02.159 --> 02:39:04.840
<v Speaker 4>The Catholic Church has said that the guy himself, Leo,

3027
02:39:04.920 --> 02:39:07.799
<v Speaker 4>has never been accused of any wrongdoings. But while he

3028
02:39:07.879 --> 02:39:10.440
<v Speaker 4>was there in Chicago in two thousand, there was a

3029
02:39:10.559 --> 02:39:15.000
<v Speaker 4>priest out there doing priestly shit who had been accused

3030
02:39:15.159 --> 02:39:18.680
<v Speaker 4>of allegations of child abuse. Moved to an Augustinian monastery

3031
02:39:18.760 --> 02:39:21.159
<v Speaker 4>near a Catholic elementary school, and church officials at the

3032
02:39:21.159 --> 02:39:23.639
<v Speaker 4>time failed to notify the school, and according to the

3033
02:39:23.719 --> 02:39:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Chicago Sun Times, church records even claimed there was no

3034
02:39:26.799 --> 02:39:27.600
<v Speaker 4>school nearby.

3035
02:39:29.000 --> 02:39:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow, so he's another one that's just like, hey, let's

3036
02:39:33.159 --> 02:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>sleep them, sweep them underneath the rug. We'll send him

3037
02:39:35.639 --> 02:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. Nobody's gonna know.

3038
02:39:37.959 --> 02:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Now.

3039
02:39:38.280 --> 02:39:41.959
<v Speaker 4>It said that he denounced them, right, and he helped

3040
02:39:42.120 --> 02:39:47.079
<v Speaker 4>dissolve a Catholic movement that was under investigation after this

3041
02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:48.680
<v Speaker 4>uncovered years of the abuse.

3042
02:39:48.959 --> 02:39:51.280
<v Speaker 3>It's not like he was spearheading it. He was involved.

3043
02:39:51.319 --> 02:39:52.959
<v Speaker 3>That could have mean that he did paperwork for it.

3044
02:39:53.760 --> 02:39:55.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he could have been one of the votes

3045
02:39:55.440 --> 02:39:57.639
<v Speaker 2>that was like, all right, let's do something with these guys.

3046
02:39:57.639 --> 02:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And maybe he was on the losing side of that art.

3047
02:40:00.319 --> 02:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>We don't know the specifics of it, but even still,

3048
02:40:03.159 --> 02:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>just the part that he was he was part of

3049
02:40:05.479 --> 02:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a church that decided not to punish this guy. Not

3050
02:40:10.079 --> 02:40:12.799
<v Speaker 2>only to not punish him, let's send him to a

3051
02:40:12.879 --> 02:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>monastery that is right next to a fucking elementary school

3052
02:40:16.440 --> 02:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>and not even tell them that there is there's a

3053
02:40:20.120 --> 02:40:23.319
<v Speaker 2>predator about. Like that's crazy to me.

3054
02:40:24.079 --> 02:40:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and don't don't tell them that there's a predator

3055
02:40:27.399 --> 02:40:30.040
<v Speaker 4>going on, and just don't and then change the record

3056
02:40:30.120 --> 02:40:32.520
<v Speaker 4>later to say there wasn't even a school nearby it,

3057
02:40:33.239 --> 02:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>when like it's pretty obvious to see if there's a

3058
02:40:35.760 --> 02:40:37.639
<v Speaker 4>school nearby your monastery.

3059
02:40:37.959 --> 02:40:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like Google maps could prove that.

3060
02:40:40.040 --> 02:40:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Here's an idea if you're a pedophile, you don't get, uh,

3061
02:40:46.399 --> 02:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the priestly judiciary whatever kind of system of just sending

3062
02:40:51.920 --> 02:40:55.319
<v Speaker 2>them somewhere else, put them in fucking jail like the

3063
02:40:55.360 --> 02:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>rest of the pedos, Like, what are we doing with this?

3064
02:40:58.360 --> 02:41:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I agree? I agree, or just killed them or killed.

3065
02:41:01.399 --> 02:41:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Them too, that's cool too, castrate them And actually I

3066
02:41:05.399 --> 02:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>think I would actually prefer to just castrate them and

3067
02:41:08.319 --> 02:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>then firing squad. But give it time for the firing squad.

3068
02:41:12.319 --> 02:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I want him to live all, like, at least a

3069
02:41:14.559 --> 02:41:17.399
<v Speaker 2>year without his dick, just to see how that feels.

3070
02:41:18.399 --> 02:41:20.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but their hands can also still be used to

3071
02:41:21.040 --> 02:41:21.559
<v Speaker 4>hurt kids.

3072
02:41:21.879 --> 02:41:25.799
<v Speaker 3>A good point. Yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, let's keep out.

3073
02:41:26.280 --> 02:41:29.159
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and six, the Illinois Attorney General added

3074
02:41:29.200 --> 02:41:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the priest James Ray to its public list of abusive

3075
02:41:32.159 --> 02:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>clerics and religious brothers, claiming there were thirteen reported survivors

3076
02:41:37.319 --> 02:41:40.399
<v Speaker 2>between seventy four and nineteen ninety one. The Vatican has

3077
02:41:40.440 --> 02:41:43.159
<v Speaker 2>denied the Previoust permitted Ray to live at the monastery.

3078
02:41:43.479 --> 02:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Prevost also faces allegations of inaction in connection with his

3079
02:41:48.520 --> 02:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>time in northwestern Peru while he served as a bishop

3080
02:41:51.799 --> 02:41:56.879
<v Speaker 2>in Chichleo. In twenty twenty two, three women came forward

3081
02:41:56.920 --> 02:41:59.600
<v Speaker 2>with allegations that they were sexually abused by two priests

3082
02:41:59.639 --> 02:42:02.520
<v Speaker 2>beginning in two thousand and seven when they were minors.

3083
02:42:02.879 --> 02:42:04.760
<v Speaker 4>And he was the bishop at that time, meaning that

3084
02:42:04.840 --> 02:42:07.280
<v Speaker 4>it was his job to decide what happened next.

3085
02:42:07.399 --> 02:42:09.959
<v Speaker 2>The victim said in a public statement the prevous failed

3086
02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to thoroughly look into the allegations. They said in quotes.

3087
02:42:13.159 --> 02:42:17.319
<v Speaker 2>No investigation was carried out, nor were the precautionary measures

3088
02:42:17.319 --> 02:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>for the protection of the faithful boys and girls. The

3089
02:42:20.799 --> 02:42:26.799
<v Speaker 2>case was filed and archived. Wow, Okay, now he's a

3090
02:42:26.799 --> 02:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit.

3091
02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:30.239
<v Speaker 4>You see what I'm saying here. Now, I don't know

3092
02:42:30.280 --> 02:42:32.280
<v Speaker 4>how valid these things are. By the way, there's the

3093
02:42:32.360 --> 02:42:37.079
<v Speaker 4>USA Today article. Good cult members listen, and again this

3094
02:42:37.120 --> 02:42:39.239
<v Speaker 4>is what I'm saying. There's a lot of things about

3095
02:42:39.319 --> 02:42:42.319
<v Speaker 4>him that seem like good things. Then you start learning

3096
02:42:42.319 --> 02:42:43.920
<v Speaker 4>that he's a little bit more of a Francis two

3097
02:42:43.920 --> 02:42:46.479
<v Speaker 4>point zero, not super thrilled about that. And then you

3098
02:42:46.520 --> 02:42:49.440
<v Speaker 4>see this where it's not that he is, you know,

3099
02:42:49.879 --> 02:42:53.360
<v Speaker 4>doing anything to hurt children, but he's also not doing

3100
02:42:53.399 --> 02:42:56.879
<v Speaker 4>anything to protect them. And it's like ooh oo oo

3101
02:42:57.000 --> 02:42:59.600
<v Speaker 4>oo ooh, these are some serious allegations being brought against

3102
02:42:59.639 --> 02:43:02.639
<v Speaker 4>him right now now only two days in office as

3103
02:43:02.639 --> 02:43:05.079
<v Speaker 4>a time of recording anyway, So I really hope he's

3104
02:43:05.120 --> 02:43:07.000
<v Speaker 4>able to field these curve balls when they get thrown

3105
02:43:07.040 --> 02:43:09.319
<v Speaker 4>at him here soon on a very loud public scale.

3106
02:43:09.479 --> 02:43:12.879
<v Speaker 2>See, you know what, like why are there not security

3107
02:43:12.920 --> 02:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>cameras in these churches, because clearly that's probably where it's

3108
02:43:16.280 --> 02:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>going down, right, like somewhere in like a confession booth

3109
02:43:19.879 --> 02:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>or some bullshit, Like, I don't know if it's going

3110
02:43:21.879 --> 02:43:24.319
<v Speaker 2>down there, but I would have to imagine it's happening

3111
02:43:24.399 --> 02:43:26.879
<v Speaker 2>on the campus of the church at the bare minimum.

3112
02:43:26.920 --> 02:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Why are with all of this pedophilic shit within the

3113
02:43:30.559 --> 02:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Catholic church and we don't have cameras literally covering every

3114
02:43:34.719 --> 02:43:38.639
<v Speaker 2>square inch of these churches? What are we doing? I'm sorry,

3115
02:43:38.760 --> 02:43:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the eye of God is not enough. We need Big

3116
02:43:41.319 --> 02:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Brother in these places.

3117
02:43:43.079 --> 02:43:45.680
<v Speaker 4>So usually this is happening in the case where there's

3118
02:43:45.680 --> 02:43:49.239
<v Speaker 4>a school attached to a church, which, to be fair,

3119
02:43:49.799 --> 02:43:54.239
<v Speaker 4>most Catholic churches historically speaking, have schoolhouses attached to them.

3120
02:43:54.239 --> 02:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Because cameras in there two.

3121
02:43:56.239 --> 02:43:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, right, That's what I'm saying.

3122
02:43:57.559 --> 02:44:01.479
<v Speaker 4>So like, typically it doesn't happen in the church itself,

3123
02:44:01.559 --> 02:44:03.639
<v Speaker 4>like in the sanctuary with the pews and the stuff.

3124
02:44:04.200 --> 02:44:08.559
<v Speaker 4>It typically happens somewhere on school grounds or maybe in

3125
02:44:08.600 --> 02:44:09.680
<v Speaker 4>his office or something.

3126
02:44:09.719 --> 02:44:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

3127
02:44:10.200 --> 02:44:12.440
<v Speaker 4>I saw, Like I've read all of the victim reports,

3128
02:44:12.479 --> 02:44:15.040
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know all the comings and goings of

3129
02:44:15.079 --> 02:44:18.399
<v Speaker 4>all these things, but I agree there should be better security.

3130
02:44:18.440 --> 02:44:20.639
<v Speaker 4>But you see that's talking about in Peru, that's a

3131
02:44:20.719 --> 02:44:23.319
<v Speaker 4>very poor country. They don't have security cameras in most

3132
02:44:23.319 --> 02:44:25.959
<v Speaker 4>places in the country, on alone a church, because you

3133
02:44:26.000 --> 02:44:29.280
<v Speaker 4>would think, you would think that's a place where you

3134
02:44:29.319 --> 02:44:30.520
<v Speaker 4>can trust these dudes.

3135
02:44:30.879 --> 02:44:31.200
<v Speaker 3>You don't.

3136
02:44:31.239 --> 02:44:34.559
<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't need that there. But boy oh boy, Snap

3137
02:44:34.559 --> 02:44:35.440
<v Speaker 4>would say otherwise.

3138
02:44:35.600 --> 02:44:38.360
<v Speaker 2>All the money that the Vatican has and it can't

3139
02:44:38.360 --> 02:44:41.079
<v Speaker 2>spare a couple bucks for some security cameras in Peru.

3140
02:44:41.520 --> 02:44:43.680
<v Speaker 3>They're not famillion in the whole as we speak.

3141
02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I agree with you. I'm sure they still

3142
02:44:47.520 --> 02:44:48.959
<v Speaker 2>got some cheese hidden somewhere.

3143
02:44:49.559 --> 02:44:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, there's a lot of gold that they could hawk

3144
02:44:51.879 --> 02:44:53.200
<v Speaker 4>from the Vatican to get there.

3145
02:44:53.239 --> 02:44:56.280
<v Speaker 2>But you know, yeah, So anyhow, two months before Prevos

3146
02:44:56.399 --> 02:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was elected Pope, Snap or that pedophile organization or the

3147
02:45:01.399 --> 02:45:03.879
<v Speaker 2>hunting for not hunting, but you know what I mean,

3148
02:45:04.760 --> 02:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Snap filed a complaint against him with the Vatican, claiming

3149
02:45:07.719 --> 02:45:11.799
<v Speaker 2>that he failed to open an investigation and sent inadequate

3150
02:45:11.879 --> 02:45:15.479
<v Speaker 2>information to Rome. Civil authorities in Peru closed the case

3151
02:45:15.520 --> 02:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>after a statute of limitations had passed. The Dicastery for

3152
02:45:18.799 --> 02:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the Doctrine of Faith, which investigates cases of clergy sexual abuse,

3153
02:45:22.760 --> 02:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>closed the case in twenty twenty three. In a public

3154
02:45:25.799 --> 02:45:30.399
<v Speaker 2>letter the diocese of Chicago said, isn't that funny he

3155
02:45:30.440 --> 02:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>went from Chicago to Chicago. Kind of weird anyway, The

3156
02:45:35.760 --> 02:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>diocese from there said accusations that the former cardinal remained

3157
02:45:39.319 --> 02:45:42.399
<v Speaker 2>silent in the face of the complaints is not true.

3158
02:45:42.520 --> 02:45:45.559
<v Speaker 2>The Vatican has also denied any wrongdoing by Provost. Of

3159
02:45:45.559 --> 02:45:47.799
<v Speaker 2>course they will.

3160
02:45:47.200 --> 02:45:49.600
<v Speaker 3>So, just so we're all clear here.

3161
02:45:50.000 --> 02:45:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Two months before this election, Snap filed a complain against him.

3162
02:45:54.879 --> 02:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Then he gets elected, the Vatican says that, oh, well,

3163
02:45:59.600 --> 02:46:01.840
<v Speaker 4>the case you're bringing up, statute of limitations is over.

3164
02:46:01.879 --> 02:46:02.600
<v Speaker 3>On that, you know what.

3165
02:46:02.639 --> 02:46:05.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, fuck statute of limitations. When it comes to

3166
02:46:05.079 --> 02:46:08.920
<v Speaker 4>child abuse. Sorry, fuck your statute of limitations.

3167
02:46:09.399 --> 02:46:13.760
<v Speaker 2>You lose all of your freedom there. You're not a

3168
02:46:13.840 --> 02:46:17.799
<v Speaker 2>human anymore. You are treated as you are a wounded animal,

3169
02:46:17.840 --> 02:46:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and you need to be put down if you touch

3170
02:46:20.319 --> 02:46:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a child or have to be honest, I would even

3171
02:46:23.040 --> 02:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>make anybody who doesn't not even just the pedophiles, the

3172
02:46:27.280 --> 02:46:31.319
<v Speaker 2>people who are also knowing of the pedophilia and not

3173
02:46:31.479 --> 02:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>doing something about it. Whenever they have the power to

3174
02:46:34.680 --> 02:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>buy you go.

3175
02:46:35.600 --> 02:46:40.319
<v Speaker 3>To If you are complicit in it, yes, then you

3176
02:46:40.360 --> 02:46:43.959
<v Speaker 3>are equally guilty. In my opinion, I'm.

3177
02:46:43.319 --> 02:46:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Sorry exactly way it is. Yep, you're a guilty party.

3178
02:46:46.760 --> 02:46:51.079
<v Speaker 4>I have done fucking literally anything dog like the smallest

3179
02:46:51.079 --> 02:46:53.879
<v Speaker 4>bit of effort would have gone a mile. But okay,

3180
02:46:54.239 --> 02:46:56.440
<v Speaker 4>and you were the bishop at the time, you could

3181
02:46:56.479 --> 02:46:57.719
<v Speaker 4>actually push that forward.

3182
02:46:58.120 --> 02:47:03.000
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so that happens two months prior to this election.

3183
02:47:03.840 --> 02:47:07.000
<v Speaker 4>This is in this is May eighth, So in March

3184
02:47:07.840 --> 02:47:12.319
<v Speaker 4>Snap posted a complaint against him. Then their response to

3185
02:47:12.360 --> 02:47:16.120
<v Speaker 4>this complaint was statute of limitations. You know, that's an

3186
02:47:16.120 --> 02:47:17.959
<v Speaker 4>old thing. By the way, that case is closed in

3187
02:47:18.000 --> 02:47:20.360
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three. Anyway, so like we're just not worried

3188
02:47:20.360 --> 02:47:20.719
<v Speaker 4>about it.

3189
02:47:21.239 --> 02:47:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Also, keep in mind, the pope died what was it,

3190
02:47:25.399 --> 02:47:29.319
<v Speaker 2>The Pope died in April I think, and this guy

3191
02:47:29.680 --> 02:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>was literally zero zero point zero five percent of people

3192
02:47:35.280 --> 02:47:37.319
<v Speaker 2>were thinking that this guy was going to become the

3193
02:47:37.360 --> 02:47:40.559
<v Speaker 2>new pope. So it wasn't like these people were like, oh,

3194
02:47:40.600 --> 02:47:42.719
<v Speaker 2>this guy's about to get elected, let's try and shit

3195
02:47:42.760 --> 02:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>on him as much as we can. They didn't have

3196
02:47:44.680 --> 02:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>that forethought, Like they didn't know that the pope, I mean,

3197
02:47:47.360 --> 02:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>the Pope was obviously in sickness. But even still, even

3198
02:47:50.280 --> 02:47:51.559
<v Speaker 2>if you knew that there was going to be a

3199
02:47:51.600 --> 02:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>new pope. The last thing you thought that there was

3200
02:47:53.879 --> 02:47:57.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be an American pope. Nonetheless, this guy right.

3201
02:47:57.440 --> 02:48:00.719
<v Speaker 4>Right, all the experts that we saw, because I looked

3202
02:48:00.799 --> 02:48:02.520
<v Speaker 4>up a good number of lists that I didn't bring

3203
02:48:02.600 --> 02:48:05.639
<v Speaker 4>up on the show, this guy's name was on none

3204
02:48:05.760 --> 02:48:09.559
<v Speaker 4>of them. An American pope, dude, that is as crazy

3205
02:48:09.639 --> 02:48:13.440
<v Speaker 4>as a black or Asian pope. Like, no way, Although

3206
02:48:13.879 --> 02:48:18.280
<v Speaker 4>they really liked Filipino Boy, he was a strong favorite potential.

3207
02:48:18.760 --> 02:48:23.079
<v Speaker 4>Then they get there. One hundred and thirty five dudes voted.

3208
02:48:23.120 --> 02:48:24.959
<v Speaker 4>One hundred and thirty three of them said no, the

3209
02:48:24.959 --> 02:48:25.639
<v Speaker 4>American guy.

3210
02:48:25.719 --> 02:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Bro what Yeah, honestly, it's like it's like John Kerry

3211
02:48:29.680 --> 02:48:33.559
<v Speaker 2>getting elected for the Nation of Islam or something. You know,

3212
02:48:33.600 --> 02:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>it just made no sense really.

3213
02:48:35.159 --> 02:48:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Right right exactly. It blows the mind, it really does.

3214
02:48:38.959 --> 02:48:42.639
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, provost prevotes, excuse me, help bring down an

3215
02:48:42.639 --> 02:48:44.959
<v Speaker 4>abusive Catholic group in South America.

3216
02:48:45.040 --> 02:48:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that might be what we kind of talked

3217
02:48:46.360 --> 02:48:46.879
<v Speaker 3>about earlier.

3218
02:48:46.920 --> 02:48:49.040
<v Speaker 4>But let's learn a little bit because he has at

3219
02:48:49.120 --> 02:48:51.000
<v Speaker 4>least something showing he did something.

3220
02:48:51.799 --> 02:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Pedro Salinas Selena's one of my favorite movies of all time.

3221
02:48:58.479 --> 02:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Anything for d Selena's but it says. A Peruvian journalist

3222
02:49:02.959 --> 02:49:06.959
<v Speaker 2>who wrote a bombshell expose on Soda Lidium of Christian

3223
02:49:07.000 --> 02:49:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Life in twenty fifteen, said Prevosts played an extremely important

3224
02:49:10.120 --> 02:49:14.399
<v Speaker 2>role in the Catholics Movement. Catholic movement's dissolution. Leaders of

3225
02:49:14.399 --> 02:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the ultra conservative group founded in Peru had faced widespread

3226
02:49:17.719 --> 02:49:21.639
<v Speaker 2>allegations of corruption, as well as physical, psychological, and sexual violence,

3227
02:49:21.959 --> 02:49:28.360
<v Speaker 2>including against miners. In January, Provost and Pope Francis, who

3228
02:49:28.360 --> 02:49:31.280
<v Speaker 2>had long paid close attention to the case, met with

3229
02:49:31.440 --> 02:49:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Jose Enrique Escardo, one of the group's victims, who spoke

3230
02:49:35.280 --> 02:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>out against the movement and its abuses. Pope Francis dissolved

3231
02:49:38.559 --> 02:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the movement weeks before he died. According to the Vatican News,

3232
02:49:41.920 --> 02:49:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a stunning and extremely rare outcome, said Bishop Accountability.

3233
02:49:46.360 --> 02:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>His name is Bishop Accountability.

3234
02:49:48.120 --> 02:49:50.239
<v Speaker 3>That's funny. Now that's a victim's advocacy group.

3235
02:49:50.920 --> 02:49:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, a victim's advacy group in a statement after

3236
02:49:55.879 --> 02:49:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Prevosts was elected Pope. Yet punishing abusers isn't heroic, it's

3237
02:49:59.600 --> 02:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>moral and decent. We pray we see more of this

3238
02:50:02.760 --> 02:50:05.680
<v Speaker 2>decisive action by Prevost when he is the pope.

3239
02:50:06.840 --> 02:50:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So you dissolved in order. That's excellent.

3240
02:50:09.799 --> 02:50:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Didn't really say much about what they did as far

3241
02:50:12.079 --> 02:50:14.520
<v Speaker 4>as punishments go, did they. They just kind of said

3242
02:50:14.520 --> 02:50:16.559
<v Speaker 4>that punishments were doled out in the form of fucking

3243
02:50:16.600 --> 02:50:17.079
<v Speaker 4>what dog?

3244
02:50:17.639 --> 02:50:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, the best kind of punishment we can have.

3245
02:50:21.840 --> 02:50:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Let's just send them to another church.

3246
02:50:24.520 --> 02:50:28.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe probably they got excommunicated, which is like

3247
02:50:28.600 --> 02:50:30.719
<v Speaker 4>their version of the highest form of punishment.

3248
02:50:31.600 --> 02:50:37.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, statistically speaking, Okham's raiser, we would probably say,

3249
02:50:38.120 --> 02:50:41.280
<v Speaker 2>like most likely is that he gets sent to another church.

3250
02:50:41.760 --> 02:50:44.159
<v Speaker 2>That's how they usually cover that up. But anyway, so,

3251
02:50:44.319 --> 02:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>speaking to the media on May eighth, Bishop Carlos Garcia

3252
02:50:48.040 --> 02:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>com Matter, the head of Peru's Bishop's Conference, praise prevosts

3253
02:50:53.120 --> 02:50:55.719
<v Speaker 2>work with abused survivors, saying he opened the way here

3254
02:50:55.719 --> 02:50:58.520
<v Speaker 2>in Peru to listen to victims, to organize the Truth

3255
02:50:58.520 --> 02:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Commission against the Solidium of Christian Life. In public statements,

3256
02:51:04.479 --> 02:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Prevos has stated firmly that he stands with sex abuse

3257
02:51:07.799 --> 02:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>in church. In twenty nineteens he stands against sex abuse

3258
02:51:11.040 --> 02:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>in church. What did I say with, Oh, yeah, that's

3259
02:51:13.879 --> 02:51:14.600
<v Speaker 2>a big difference.

3260
02:51:15.239 --> 02:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Might the opposite of the sentence there, But let's keep

3261
02:51:17.319 --> 02:51:17.959
<v Speaker 3>going my bad.

3262
02:51:18.200 --> 02:51:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it sounded I was like, with why

3263
02:51:20.000 --> 02:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>are they parading that? That doesn't make any sense anyway.

3264
02:51:23.920 --> 02:51:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Against sex abuse in the church in twenty nineteen. In

3265
02:51:27.959 --> 02:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the twenty nine nineteen interview with Lyi Republica, he encouraged

3266
02:51:32.520 --> 02:51:34.799
<v Speaker 2>victims of abuse to come forward and said he supported

3267
02:51:34.879 --> 02:51:37.879
<v Speaker 2>more transparency from the church. We reject the cover up

3268
02:51:37.879 --> 02:51:41.520
<v Speaker 2>in secrecy that does a lot of damage because we

3269
02:51:41.879 --> 02:51:44.399
<v Speaker 2>have to help the people who suffered from the bad act,

3270
02:51:44.440 --> 02:51:47.840
<v Speaker 2>he said, later, adding on behalf of the church. We

3271
02:51:47.879 --> 02:51:51.399
<v Speaker 2>want people to know that if there was any offense,

3272
02:51:51.520 --> 02:51:54.559
<v Speaker 2>if they suffered or are victims of the bad actions

3273
02:51:54.559 --> 02:51:56.959
<v Speaker 2>of a priest, to come and denounce it, to act

3274
02:51:57.000 --> 02:51:59.040
<v Speaker 2>for the good of the church, of the person and

3275
02:51:59.159 --> 02:52:00.079
<v Speaker 2>of the community.

3276
02:52:00.799 --> 02:52:03.479
<v Speaker 4>So if that's true, then why did snap have a

3277
02:52:03.520 --> 02:52:05.959
<v Speaker 4>case on him two months ago? And why were they

3278
02:52:06.000 --> 02:52:08.840
<v Speaker 4>shown the door saying that oh statute of limitations and

3279
02:52:09.200 --> 02:52:11.079
<v Speaker 4>the case was closed anyway two years ago, so don't

3280
02:52:11.079 --> 02:52:11.639
<v Speaker 4>worry about it.

3281
02:52:12.639 --> 02:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a little bit of a problem with that.

3282
02:52:15.479 --> 02:52:18.319
<v Speaker 3>So all right, and who knows, not a record gonna

3283
02:52:18.319 --> 02:52:18.760
<v Speaker 3>shake out.

3284
02:52:20.040 --> 02:52:24.319
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's very possible that investigations will be launched.

3285
02:52:24.840 --> 02:52:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Truth will be shown, and maybe he did actually take

3286
02:52:29.760 --> 02:52:31.680
<v Speaker 4>a stance and the people didn't know that he took

3287
02:52:31.680 --> 02:52:32.120
<v Speaker 4>a stance.

3288
02:52:32.159 --> 02:52:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know.

3289
02:52:34.239 --> 02:52:38.000
<v Speaker 4>But two days in office and he's already getting these

3290
02:52:38.040 --> 02:52:39.239
<v Speaker 4>allegations thrown at him.

3291
02:52:39.719 --> 02:52:42.200
<v Speaker 3>So now that leads me to my final point here.

3292
02:52:42.520 --> 02:52:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So this was published May ninth, A thousand year

3293
02:52:46.280 --> 02:52:50.200
<v Speaker 4>old prophecy predicted newly elected pope as the last with

3294
02:52:50.440 --> 02:52:55.319
<v Speaker 4>terrifying warning to humanity. This is from lad Bible. Let's

3295
02:52:55.319 --> 02:52:58.360
<v Speaker 4>read about it, dude. Apparently Pope Leo the fourteenth has

3296
02:52:58.399 --> 02:53:00.719
<v Speaker 4>been elected, and it's apparently bad news.

3297
02:53:01.360 --> 02:53:04.959
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Catholics around the world are currently rejoicing after the

3298
02:53:05.040 --> 02:53:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Vatican College of Cardinals has elected Pope Leo for the

3299
02:53:08.360 --> 02:53:11.879
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth to lead the church. Pope Leo the fourteenth, formerly

3300
02:53:11.920 --> 02:53:14.440
<v Speaker 2>known as Cardinal Robert Privos, was confirmed as a new

3301
02:53:14.479 --> 02:53:17.319
<v Speaker 2>pontiff earlier today, just weeks after the death of Pope

3302
02:53:17.319 --> 02:53:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Francis at the age of eighty eight on Easter Monday.

3303
02:53:21.639 --> 02:53:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, do you see that?

3304
02:53:25.520 --> 02:53:25.600
<v Speaker 3>What?

3305
02:53:26.520 --> 02:53:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So he holy?

3306
02:53:28.680 --> 02:53:29.959
<v Speaker 3>He died at the age of eighty eight.

3307
02:53:30.040 --> 02:53:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, he died at the age of eighty eight.

3308
02:53:32.200 --> 02:53:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Eighty second four to two. Is that what you're about

3309
02:53:34.399 --> 02:53:34.680
<v Speaker 3>to say?

3310
02:53:34.879 --> 02:53:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's four times twenty two?

3311
02:53:36.559 --> 02:53:36.719
<v Speaker 3>There?

3312
02:53:36.760 --> 02:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Buddy, God, I don't even know what to say to

3313
02:53:40.040 --> 02:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that anymore. Dude, who of all days is that? Is

3314
02:53:44.520 --> 02:53:49.079
<v Speaker 2>fucking wild? Anyway, the sight of white smoke drifting from

3315
02:53:49.120 --> 02:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the chimney of the Sistine Chapel should be a moment

3316
02:53:51.879 --> 02:53:54.680
<v Speaker 2>of joy for followers of the Catholic Church, as well

3317
02:53:54.719 --> 02:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>as the people of America and Peru, where Pope Leo

3318
02:53:56.879 --> 02:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth spent the majority of his career. However, there

3319
02:54:01.239 --> 02:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>is one group of people who are treating the election

3320
02:54:03.280 --> 02:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of a new pope with hesitance. Enter the conspiracy theorists.

3321
02:54:06.600 --> 02:54:06.959
<v Speaker 3>With a.

3322
02:54:08.920 --> 02:54:11.799
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, we are present, we are here, let's talk

3323
02:54:11.799 --> 02:54:12.159
<v Speaker 4>about it.

3324
02:54:12.239 --> 02:54:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes we are, we are the cult of Conspiracy. I

3325
02:54:14.520 --> 02:54:17.639
<v Speaker 2>would say, indeed pretty much near the top of that list.

3326
02:54:17.680 --> 02:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it's a that's right, folks, enjoy the election

3327
02:54:22.000 --> 02:54:24.280
<v Speaker 2>of Pope Leo the fourteenth while you can. Because a

3328
02:54:24.399 --> 02:54:27.799
<v Speaker 2>resurfaced one hundred year old prophecy suggests the sixty nine

3329
02:54:27.879 --> 02:54:30.399
<v Speaker 2>year old will apparently be the last Bishop of Rome.

3330
02:54:31.040 --> 02:54:33.680
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm meant to say thousand because the title

3331
02:54:33.760 --> 02:54:35.239
<v Speaker 4>set thousand and that.

3332
02:54:36.719 --> 02:54:39.959
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to a thousand. Oh yeah, it must be. Oh,

3333
02:54:39.959 --> 02:54:42.639
<v Speaker 2>that's right, I remember reading about this. So, as some

3334
02:54:42.719 --> 02:54:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of you may already be aware, we're previous. We've previously

3335
02:54:45.840 --> 02:54:49.159
<v Speaker 2>covered the resurgence of a text allegedly written in the

3336
02:54:49.200 --> 02:54:51.600
<v Speaker 2>eleven hundreds by a fellow by the name of Saint

3337
02:54:51.639 --> 02:54:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Malachi known as simply Malachi during his lifetime, titled Prophecy

3338
02:54:56.840 --> 02:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>of the Popes uh. Following the theme of most texts

3339
02:54:59.760 --> 02:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>which began with the word prophecy, Saint Malachi's prediction don't

3340
02:55:03.799 --> 02:55:08.280
<v Speaker 2>see a pretty ending for mankind. According to Malachi's text,

3341
02:55:08.360 --> 02:55:11.719
<v Speaker 2>there would be a further one hundred and twelve popes

3342
02:55:11.799 --> 02:55:15.600
<v Speaker 2>after his lifetime. The list ends with an ominous reference

3343
02:55:15.600 --> 02:55:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to a man named Peter the Roman, who is serving

3344
02:55:17.719 --> 02:55:20.479
<v Speaker 2>as the Bishop of Rome during end times. According to

3345
02:55:20.520 --> 02:55:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the text, Peter the Roman's tenure unfolds in the following manner.

3346
02:55:24.399 --> 02:55:28.879
<v Speaker 2>In quotes Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep

3347
02:55:28.879 --> 02:55:32.120
<v Speaker 2>in many tribulations and with the When these things are finished,

3348
02:55:32.120 --> 02:55:34.799
<v Speaker 2>the city of seven Hills will be destroyed, and the

3349
02:55:34.920 --> 02:55:38.760
<v Speaker 2>dreadful judge will judge his people the end.

3350
02:55:40.280 --> 02:55:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean it sounds like some d time prophecy to

3351
02:55:42.520 --> 02:55:43.559
<v Speaker 3>meet dog do.

3352
02:55:43.760 --> 02:55:46.760
<v Speaker 2>At least for the Catholic Church. Now, of course, the

3353
02:55:46.760 --> 02:55:49.559
<v Speaker 2>skeptics among us will be very quick to notice that

3354
02:55:49.600 --> 02:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Peter the Romans sounds nothing like Pope Leo the fourteenth.

3355
02:55:53.000 --> 02:55:56.959
<v Speaker 2>The pontiff's full birth name, Robert Francis Prevous, doesn't even

3356
02:55:56.959 --> 02:55:59.680
<v Speaker 2>include the name Peter either, So it's pretty safe to

3357
02:55:59.680 --> 02:56:02.520
<v Speaker 2>assume old Saint Malachi missed the mark. On that one

3358
02:56:03.040 --> 02:56:04.040
<v Speaker 2>missed the mark he sinned.

3359
02:56:04.239 --> 02:56:09.639
<v Speaker 4>I think, Oh, you say that right, except for so

3360
02:56:09.959 --> 02:56:13.000
<v Speaker 4>the fact that every pope is the successor of Peter.

3361
02:56:14.120 --> 02:56:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I guess so, so, it says. The text

3362
02:56:17.680 --> 02:56:21.639
<v Speaker 2>also gets his nationality wrong, as Pope Leo the fourteenth

3363
02:56:21.639 --> 02:56:25.920
<v Speaker 2>holds both American and Peruvian citizenship, not Italian, as a

3364
02:56:26.040 --> 02:56:30.319
<v Speaker 2>moniker such as the Roman would suggest. Fortunately for us,

3365
02:56:30.360 --> 02:56:34.639
<v Speaker 2>the prophecy has been largely largely debunked, it says. Meanwhile,

3366
02:56:34.680 --> 02:56:37.959
<v Speaker 2>others have believed that late Pope Francis could have been

3367
02:56:38.040 --> 02:56:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the fateful Peter the Roman. However, this theory has been

3368
02:56:40.959 --> 02:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>completely rubbish over the years for similar reasons. Josh.

3369
02:56:44.440 --> 02:56:47.920
<v Speaker 4>That being said, hold on, now, Peter the Roman literally

3370
02:56:47.959 --> 02:56:50.600
<v Speaker 4>just means the Pope. The Vatican City is within Rome,

3371
02:56:51.120 --> 02:56:54.639
<v Speaker 4>so that title can be transferred as well, which, if

3372
02:56:54.639 --> 02:56:57.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not mistaken, didn't we say earlier that your boy

3373
02:56:57.520 --> 02:57:01.600
<v Speaker 4>provost here is Italian by his dad, by his lineage.

3374
02:57:02.159 --> 02:57:06.399
<v Speaker 3>So like, I don't know, but all right, let's keep going.

3375
02:57:06.840 --> 02:57:13.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, Josh Canning, director of Toronto's chaplaincy at at

3376
02:57:13.959 --> 02:57:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the Newman Center, said in twenty thirteen via Global News,

3377
02:57:17.200 --> 02:57:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you can connect Peter the Roman

3378
02:57:19.319 --> 02:57:21.680
<v Speaker 2>with Pope Francis. So if we just happen to wake

3379
02:57:21.760 --> 02:57:23.879
<v Speaker 2>up tomorrow and find comments raining from the sky and

3380
02:57:23.959 --> 02:57:26.719
<v Speaker 2>nuclear missiles flying left and right, then I'll be happy,

3381
02:57:26.879 --> 02:57:29.159
<v Speaker 2>or I'll happily hold my hands up and say I'm wrong.

3382
02:57:29.520 --> 02:57:32.600
<v Speaker 2>But for now, I think Poblio the fourteenth probably has

3383
02:57:32.639 --> 02:57:35.079
<v Speaker 2>more pressing matters than a prophecy which may or may

3384
02:57:35.120 --> 02:57:37.680
<v Speaker 2>not have been written by a guy named Saint Malachi.

3385
02:57:38.840 --> 02:57:41.959
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but he also said it would be one hundred

3386
02:57:41.959 --> 02:57:44.959
<v Speaker 4>and twelve popes after his death, and then it would

3387
02:57:45.000 --> 02:57:49.040
<v Speaker 4>be the end. So is it possible that that's just

3388
02:57:49.159 --> 02:57:53.719
<v Speaker 4>the random rantings of a dude from the eleven hundreds. Sure,

3389
02:57:54.120 --> 02:57:56.479
<v Speaker 4>it's very possible. People write down things all the time

3390
02:57:56.520 --> 02:57:59.120
<v Speaker 4>they don't come through to fruition, and I'm not even saying,

3391
02:57:59.159 --> 02:58:00.000
<v Speaker 4>thankfully believe that.

3392
02:58:00.239 --> 02:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you just said it like the Peter

3393
02:58:03.120 --> 02:58:07.399
<v Speaker 2>the Roman, it's basically the pope, right, yeah, so yeah,

3394
02:58:07.440 --> 02:58:12.079
<v Speaker 2>whenever the final pope goes down or dies, which all

3395
02:58:12.200 --> 02:58:15.479
<v Speaker 2>popes essentially would be Peter the Roman, right, I mean

3396
02:58:15.479 --> 02:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>if it just translates to pope, if all popes or

3397
02:58:18.799 --> 02:58:21.719
<v Speaker 2>if the final pope ends up going down, then yeah,

3398
02:58:21.719 --> 02:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it's armageddon, that's what you would assume, right.

3399
02:58:24.239 --> 02:58:28.000
<v Speaker 4>And I'm trying to figure out when Malachi or Malich Malachi.

3400
02:58:28.200 --> 02:58:30.760
<v Speaker 4>I've heard it pronounced both ways because Malachi and the

3401
02:58:30.760 --> 02:58:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Bible ended with a chi.

3402
02:58:32.760 --> 02:58:35.200
<v Speaker 3>This one's a chy but whatever, right?

3403
02:58:35.559 --> 02:58:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Why?

3404
02:58:36.920 --> 02:58:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

3405
02:58:37.280 --> 02:58:41.879
<v Speaker 4>So when Saint Malachi wrote this down eleven hundreds, I'm

3406
02:58:41.959 --> 02:58:43.959
<v Speaker 4>just curious how many popes there have been from that

3407
02:58:44.000 --> 02:58:47.280
<v Speaker 4>time to now because everybody was sure that it was

3408
02:58:47.319 --> 02:58:50.799
<v Speaker 4>Pope Francis that was the guy. Was that the hundred

3409
02:58:50.799 --> 02:58:52.799
<v Speaker 4>and twelfth pope? Or is this guy the hundred and

3410
02:58:52.799 --> 02:58:53.399
<v Speaker 4>twelfth Pope?

3411
02:58:53.799 --> 02:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

3412
02:58:54.840 --> 02:58:57.719
<v Speaker 4>Look, I don't know good cult members. I don't know

3413
02:58:57.840 --> 02:59:01.280
<v Speaker 4>all the things and all the stuff. As we're talking

3414
02:59:01.319 --> 02:59:05.840
<v Speaker 4>about pope prophecies and things. This guy also, as we said,

3415
02:59:05.959 --> 02:59:07.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of seems like he's gonna shake out to be

3416
02:59:07.639 --> 02:59:10.760
<v Speaker 4>a Francis two point zero. So and I'm not saying

3417
02:59:10.760 --> 02:59:12.760
<v Speaker 4>they are one and the same person, not at all.

3418
02:59:12.840 --> 02:59:17.200
<v Speaker 4>I get that, but I think it's worth mentioning that

3419
02:59:17.719 --> 02:59:20.079
<v Speaker 4>all of these things happening at the same time, the

3420
02:59:20.120 --> 02:59:22.719
<v Speaker 4>world spinning in the way that it is currently going.

3421
02:59:23.399 --> 02:59:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Politics going the way it is, economics going the way

3422
02:59:26.319 --> 02:59:29.280
<v Speaker 4>it is, border policies, all of the shit wars, all

3423
02:59:29.319 --> 02:59:32.760
<v Speaker 4>of this, and now as we had so many people

3424
02:59:32.959 --> 02:59:36.680
<v Speaker 4>not want American pope to happen unless America was to

3425
02:59:36.719 --> 02:59:39.719
<v Speaker 4>fall from political grace, and now we got an American

3426
02:59:39.760 --> 02:59:44.440
<v Speaker 4>pope and he himself comes from this Augustinian order, right.

3427
02:59:44.479 --> 02:59:46.680
<v Speaker 4>The last pope was a Jesuit and people lost their

3428
02:59:46.719 --> 02:59:51.559
<v Speaker 4>shit over that. So I'm just saying it's a very

3429
02:59:51.600 --> 02:59:55.319
<v Speaker 4>interesting time to be alive with this whole situation. You know,

3430
02:59:55.760 --> 02:59:58.280
<v Speaker 4>good cult memories that we had to make an episode

3431
02:59:58.319 --> 02:59:58.680
<v Speaker 4>about it.

3432
02:59:58.719 --> 02:59:59.680
<v Speaker 3>This is what we do.

3433
03:00:00.559 --> 03:00:03.840
<v Speaker 4>So I hope everybody found a little bit of some

3434
03:00:04.000 --> 03:00:06.600
<v Speaker 4>education on this, found some interesting things that maybe you

3435
03:00:06.600 --> 03:00:08.879
<v Speaker 4>won't hear on the mainstream media and the legacy news

3436
03:00:08.920 --> 03:00:09.680
<v Speaker 4>and all these things.

3437
03:00:10.120 --> 03:00:11.520
<v Speaker 3>This is what we do. Is we dive deep?

3438
03:00:12.920 --> 03:00:15.559
<v Speaker 2>That is what we do, sir. Yeah, I was just

3439
03:00:15.600 --> 03:00:17.639
<v Speaker 2>looking up a little bit more of the numerology, just

3440
03:00:17.639 --> 03:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>because that's my jam right there. Yeah, I mean as

3441
03:00:21.200 --> 03:00:24.239
<v Speaker 2>far as I mean. It's not eighty eight, but the

3442
03:00:24.479 --> 03:00:28.399
<v Speaker 2>number eight. If you take uh peter in Roman, it

3443
03:00:28.680 --> 03:00:34.680
<v Speaker 2>translates numerologically from uh uh peter would be one, Roman

3444
03:00:34.719 --> 03:00:38.239
<v Speaker 2>would be seven eight right there. Anyway, I'm a nut

3445
03:00:38.280 --> 03:00:40.680
<v Speaker 2>for numerology. So if you guys want to, you know,

3446
03:00:40.760 --> 03:00:44.120
<v Speaker 2>dive into that this, you know, get get some kind

3447
03:00:44.120 --> 03:00:46.639
<v Speaker 2>of AI to be able to decode it. There's also

3448
03:00:47.200 --> 03:00:50.799
<v Speaker 2>jematrix dot org, which if you want to look into

3449
03:00:51.040 --> 03:00:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry not Joe Matrix. Uh gum Atrix. Sorry about that.

3450
03:00:55.239 --> 03:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a hard g as your boy Royce likes to say,

3451
03:00:58.479 --> 03:01:01.719
<v Speaker 2>but big facts. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it is interesting.

3452
03:01:01.840 --> 03:01:05.239
<v Speaker 2>There's I think that a lot of wild things are

3453
03:01:05.239 --> 03:01:08.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be transpiring. Uh, we're we're still very early.

3454
03:01:08.719 --> 03:01:11.479
<v Speaker 2>He was just elected on the eighth tim of recording

3455
03:01:11.559 --> 03:01:13.440
<v Speaker 2>right now where I think it's the tenth right now, right,

3456
03:01:13.559 --> 03:01:15.440
<v Speaker 2>so is it the tenth?

3457
03:01:15.559 --> 03:01:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well midnight and now it's the eleventh.

3458
03:01:18.239 --> 03:01:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Now it's the eleventh. Yeah, yeah, we record late because

3459
03:01:20.799 --> 03:01:23.600
<v Speaker 2>we got kids and shit. But uh, but yeah, dude,

3460
03:01:23.639 --> 03:01:25.520
<v Speaker 2>this was a fun episode. It was nice getting to

3461
03:01:25.559 --> 03:01:28.840
<v Speaker 2>know the entire story and a lot of the conspiracies

3462
03:01:28.879 --> 03:01:31.440
<v Speaker 2>with him. We'll see how he handles a lot of

3463
03:01:31.440 --> 03:01:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the pedophilia moving forward. Hopefully he does a good job

3464
03:01:34.959 --> 03:01:38.159
<v Speaker 2>with it. I can't imagine that he does, because his

3465
03:01:38.239 --> 03:01:42.559
<v Speaker 2>track record doesn't assume that. So yeah, we'll see.

3466
03:01:43.040 --> 03:01:43.520
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing.

3467
03:01:43.559 --> 03:01:47.319
<v Speaker 4>He took that hard stance allegedly and dissolved that organization

3468
03:01:47.399 --> 03:01:48.600
<v Speaker 4>that was doing the horrible things.

3469
03:01:48.799 --> 03:01:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Cool that I'm not negating that.

3470
03:01:50.680 --> 03:01:53.000
<v Speaker 4>If he did in fact have a lead role in

3471
03:01:53.079 --> 03:01:59.040
<v Speaker 4>the dissolving of that organization, excellent fucking props. I would

3472
03:01:59.079 --> 03:02:01.600
<v Speaker 4>be very interested to what level of punishment that they

3473
03:02:01.639 --> 03:02:05.440
<v Speaker 4>gave these people. If it was just excommunication, then I

3474
03:02:05.479 --> 03:02:08.159
<v Speaker 4>have a problem with you, Like, oh, yeah, you did

3475
03:02:08.239 --> 03:02:11.079
<v Speaker 4>what to those kids? Or you're not Catholic anymore. You're

3476
03:02:11.079 --> 03:02:13.879
<v Speaker 4>going to hell na, bitch, nah, bitch.

3477
03:02:13.719 --> 03:02:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna need to see I'm gonna need to see

3478
03:02:15.360 --> 03:02:17.040
<v Speaker 3>some more physical things.

3479
03:02:17.319 --> 03:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>You go to hell right now? How about that?

3480
03:02:20.000 --> 03:02:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

3481
03:02:20.680 --> 03:02:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Right right now. Yeah, let's make that happen. And it's

3482
03:02:24.360 --> 03:02:26.719
<v Speaker 4>in Peru, So like don't act like you didn't have

3483
03:02:26.799 --> 03:02:27.280
<v Speaker 4>the means.

3484
03:02:27.520 --> 03:02:31.440
<v Speaker 2>They got cartels closer to the equator there, baby, right.

3485
03:02:31.799 --> 03:02:35.399
<v Speaker 4>So I look, and again, these allegations that were brought up,

3486
03:02:35.520 --> 03:02:38.319
<v Speaker 4>we at this moment do not know the validity of them.

3487
03:02:38.399 --> 03:02:40.799
<v Speaker 4>We don't know the depths of them. We don't know

3488
03:02:40.840 --> 03:02:42.639
<v Speaker 4>if that case was really thrown out in the Statute

3489
03:02:42.639 --> 03:02:44.479
<v Speaker 4>of Limitations was thrown on it, which if that was

3490
03:02:44.520 --> 03:02:48.120
<v Speaker 4>the case, fuck them. We also know that his political

3491
03:02:48.239 --> 03:02:51.799
<v Speaker 4>leanings on one side have been very conservative and Republican,

3492
03:02:52.559 --> 03:02:55.319
<v Speaker 4>and in the last decade he's been pushing more climate change,

3493
03:02:55.440 --> 03:02:58.680
<v Speaker 4>inclusion of the marginalized, the open border.

3494
03:02:58.399 --> 03:03:01.639
<v Speaker 3>Policy and all these things. That's what I'm saying.

3495
03:03:01.840 --> 03:03:04.200
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of hypotheticals up in the air of

3496
03:03:04.239 --> 03:03:05.799
<v Speaker 4>one way or another this guy can go.

3497
03:03:06.639 --> 03:03:08.879
<v Speaker 3>We need to keep an eye on it. We definitely do.

3498
03:03:09.000 --> 03:03:12.200
<v Speaker 4>And again, even as an American on one side, a

3499
03:03:12.319 --> 03:03:16.319
<v Speaker 4>fucking stoked in American is the pope that's legit. On

3500
03:03:16.399 --> 03:03:19.600
<v Speaker 4>the other side, I also take that as a sign

3501
03:03:19.639 --> 03:03:23.399
<v Speaker 4>of the times. And if those dudes one hundred and

3502
03:03:23.440 --> 03:03:26.559
<v Speaker 4>thirty three of the one hundred and thirty five voted

3503
03:03:26.680 --> 03:03:32.479
<v Speaker 4>yes to the American guy instead of these staunch Europeans

3504
03:03:32.479 --> 03:03:36.959
<v Speaker 4>and the traditions and all the things that's also a

3505
03:03:37.319 --> 03:03:41.000
<v Speaker 4>potentially a bit troubling good sir, So I don't know.

3506
03:03:41.680 --> 03:03:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We will definitely see what comes

3507
03:03:45.639 --> 03:03:48.000
<v Speaker 2>from it, but it remains to be seen. We will

3508
03:03:48.000 --> 03:03:49.520
<v Speaker 2>give them, you know, we'll give them a little bit

3509
03:03:49.559 --> 03:03:53.680
<v Speaker 2>of time see what transpires from then. But until then, Jacob,

3510
03:03:54.000 --> 03:03:55.239
<v Speaker 2>how about a little send off, sir.

3511
03:03:55.879 --> 03:03:58.159
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, indeed, as they're talking about all this stuff with

3512
03:03:58.200 --> 03:04:00.440
<v Speaker 4>the Vatican, you know, there's one thing I do want

3513
03:04:00.440 --> 03:04:02.000
<v Speaker 4>to go to the Vatican one day. It's on my

3514
03:04:02.000 --> 03:04:04.440
<v Speaker 4>bucket list to go and check this place out. Everybody

3515
03:04:04.440 --> 03:04:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I've to talk to you that goes says that it

3516
03:04:06.520 --> 03:04:12.399
<v Speaker 4>is just dripping in gold in silver, like the statues,

3517
03:04:12.479 --> 03:04:16.760
<v Speaker 4>the thrones, the ornate layouts, all this stuff. It's art

3518
03:04:17.079 --> 03:04:19.840
<v Speaker 4>in its own regard, even if you're not Catholic or religious,

3519
03:04:19.879 --> 03:04:23.120
<v Speaker 4>even just to see all this shit as wild. And

3520
03:04:23.239 --> 03:04:26.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, as I'm saying that, if you good cold

3521
03:04:26.280 --> 03:04:27.920
<v Speaker 4>member would like to get a little bit of that

3522
03:04:27.920 --> 03:04:29.639
<v Speaker 4>gold and a little bit of that silver for yourself,

3523
03:04:29.680 --> 03:04:33.040
<v Speaker 4>maybe not the Vaticans, but some for your own financial.

3524
03:04:32.600 --> 03:04:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Future, I'll take some of the vaticans.

3525
03:04:34.520 --> 03:04:36.159
<v Speaker 4>I would that would be dope, all right, but they

3526
03:04:36.159 --> 03:04:38.440
<v Speaker 4>probably need to sell off some of that to pay

3527
03:04:38.440 --> 03:04:40.479
<v Speaker 4>off that millions of dollars of money they own. But

3528
03:04:40.479 --> 03:04:42.920
<v Speaker 4>beside the point, if you let to get your start

3529
03:04:43.040 --> 03:04:45.840
<v Speaker 4>in the buying and selling and trading of gold and silver, Bullyan,

3530
03:04:46.079 --> 03:04:48.200
<v Speaker 4>then come check us out at cecsilver dot com link

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