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Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts.
Speaker 2: Now we've got music now. I know I fell back because.
Speaker 3: Tate had to do the open kind of like all
dry and stuff.
Speaker 2: But nay, we got music now.
Speaker 3: But very excited for day number two because all these
teams are schools and teams and proud programs that had
certainly for Georgia, for Tennessee and for Texas. They have
been fully in the conversation over the last couple of years.
Alburn's trying to get back there. But yesterday three of
the four quarterback quarterback quarterback. You know, Austin Simmons a
little bit of a question mark, not because I don't
think he's going to be a good player, but he's
not been a starter before, like these teams right here. Okay,
Like what's Jackson going to be coming over from Oklahoma?
Where Matt said it last segment he got bingched, all right,
what's Gunner Stockton going to be. Is he going to
be able to replicate what Carson bek did over the
last couple of years. Tennessee we've talked about their quarterback troubles.
They traded their quarterback. Basically, he goes to UCLA, you
get UCLA's quarterback and your quarterback. He's a tough kid,
but he didn't have his best year two years ago.
Was his best year at Apple Lachin State, not last year,
and then for Texas Turks manning right, and so all
the hype and all the things we think he can be,
but it is drastic difference in what we had yesterday
and what we know to what we are trying to
find out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quarterbacks that are all over the spectrum of
what the hype level is on what people think they
can be. A lot of you know, Gunnar Stockton one
of the top guys in his recruiting class, we still
don't know because of the style of play. Jackson Arnold,
of course he's got this, he's got these different he
can run, he can throw it a little bit. What
is he going to be? Well, how is he going
to do outside of the offense at Oklahoma that was
not very good last year? Didn't have a lot of
pieces in place for him to be successful. And then
you got, of course Arch Manning, who has all the
hype in the world and people are putting him in
Heisman list and everything. But there's one thing that one
thing similar about all of these kids is that they're
all unproven. Of course, Arch played in three games, and
we think he's gonna be good, but we don't know
what any of these guys are gonna be. So, you know,
like you said yesterday, it was a little bit more
of these are proven commodities. We know they're gonna be good,
we know what they're we know what they bring to
the table. Today's all about like who are these guys,
what can they be? What's the speculation? So everybody's interested
in hearing these guys talk just to see what kind
of confidence level, what are they bringing to the table.
From a character standpoint and with a leadership standpoint, there's
only so much you can get from an interview with
a thousand people here. But like, yeah, it's it's unknown.
So this is this is a really interesting day. We'll
learn a lot more today about these kids, and we
did probably yesterday from those guys.
Speaker 3: So for you and your own experience because you had
been in college four years, you had played plenty of times.
There have been games where you started for LSU. There
have been games where you came in for LSU. There's
games where you rotated for LSU. Like for you, once
it was your team, because it's it is Gunnerstocking team.
It is Jackson Rtal who's played before, so it's a
little bit different. But now like even Arch Quinn's not
there anymore, he's in Miami, it's Arch's team. What like
what was that process like for you? And like how
did you make sure that you made it the biggest
thing but didn't make it too big?
Speaker 2: Well, mine was a little different because I was like,
it's about time. It was so long. I was like,
it's been so long since I've been a starter here,
you know, consistent starter. So mine was a little bit
of a relief and we talked about it. When people
are asking that, oh, Matt, you were you definitely came
to media day when you were going into your senior year,
I'm like, no, I didn't for when you were getting
married and I was not.
Speaker 3: Sure, uhman and definitely a groomsman.
Speaker 2: But two remind people that Miles hadn't named me the
starter by this point. I mean, I think it was
everybody pretty much new, but he was more of the
you know, he wanted to create that mindset of we're
going to compete.
Speaker 3: He's so like, he's say compete, So it's, uh, yeah,
he I hadn't been named the starter at that point.
Speaker 2: So you actually still haven't been still to this day,
not named the starter of two thousand and seven. But
you know, I don't know. I guess I wouldn't have
gone anyway. I had duties that weekend. I had to groom.
Not a big deal. I still can't believe you asked
that question, but we actually can.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But you know, you look at you talk about these
kids and it's finally they have the keys of the car.
How do they handle it. It's always interesting to see
because you want to think every kid can handle it
the right way you want to think, and there's nothing
to prove that. These we talked about the expectations put
on arch Manning. There's so many. I mean, hopefully they've
taken his phone in social media away from him just
for his own sanity, because you want to be able
to and you'd like to think that everybody can filter
out what people say and they're all going to say it.
They're going to say it today. You know, we don't
listen to the outside noise. It's all about the team
inside the building, which is great, and I think for
ninety nine percent of the time it is that way.
But in this day and age, with social media, with
access to all sorts of information, like I will say
clear consciously.
Speaker 3: It is I will say, the the Maning family being
around them a little bit, they try to get away
from social media as much as they can.
Speaker 2: It's impossible now, it's impossible. But also yeah, I if
anybody set up to do it, it would be would
be him. But he's in college. He's a college kid.
You don't think he's got social media. There's no way
to avoid There's no way to avoid that. So we'll see.
I mean, the hype train for him can go really
really good for him, or it could go really really
bad for him, just depending on his style of play.
But if he plays well, it is going to bode
well for him. Go up to Ohio State and get
a win. See what happens.
Speaker 3: I mean, that opener is going to be a rematch
up the Cotton Bowl. It's like, hey, Bud, there's no
tiptoeing into this starting quarterback situation.
Speaker 2: Like you start a game, you want to go to
a state.
Speaker 3: They were against UTSA ULM and Mississippi State. A high
State's gonna be a little bit different. Buck guy's gonna
be You're going up to Ohio Stadium. Yeah, they will
look over a right shoulder.
Speaker 2: They have a jersey and a helmet right by the
National Champion Championship trophy for a reason, because they are
the rant and champs. You pick to fight with a
big with a big old boy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And and we're not gonna talk a lot about the
Buck guys here at SEC media Day, but they do
also in a lot of people's minds, and I might
agree with them. They have the best offense and defensive
players in the country. Jeremiah Smith the receiver and Cave
Downs at safety.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they lost fourteen guys to the draft, but let's
not I like the covered Spears.
Speaker 2: And Texas did lose a lot of people as well.
So can they reload? I know that they are their
preseason hype trains pretty big too. Uh, just as a team,
not only not only Arch so we'll see if they
can live up to the hype. I'll be interested the
closer we get to that game to see how this
crew here at OTB picks that game. Right now, I'd
go Buck guys. I'd go Buck guys and ten. I
mean I like Texas. I do.
Speaker 3: I do think they still have right now. They still
got a lot of talent as well. But to your point,
like Julian saying, like what's going to be that's gonna
be a big question mark.
Speaker 2: But why do you have the best receiver in the
country to throw it to? Hey, college football, you give
the home team three points, right, Yeah, they automatically in
the Vegas line. If it's if it's a chalk matchup,
you give the home team three points. So outside of that,
I'm saying they're a touchdown better right now on a
neutral site.
Speaker 3: All right, So this is, uh, we're going to do this.
I know everybody's going to be shocked when I say this.
We're going to take a break somewhat on time here.
Speaker 2: This is early.
Speaker 3: It is it's like actually two minutes early. Because I
want to be a man of my word, and I
told one of our loyal listeners, Quinn, that here during
SEC media day every day day one, two, three, and four,
we would go over the teams and say they're you know,
win total number according to Vegas and go over to
under Okay, perfect, all right, so we got to go
back well retroactive here, lsu Ole, Miss South Carolina, Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 3: We'll do that, and then later on we'll do Auburn, Georgia,
Tennessee and Texas. So when we come back, we'll go
through the teams that we heard from yesterday and we'll
do it right here on OTB.
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Speaker 3: Hiright Welcome back in OTB one of four five ESPN
Baton Rouge. It looks like we're missing a good like
film says year. I know it's officiating. The head of
officiatings up there, given like the great word in point
of emphasis. I guess like throughout the season of hey,
here's what we're gonna look for more, and right now
it looks like they're going through disconcerting signals.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I see how they're playing some Vanderbilt tape and how
the defensive line move and it you know, simulates a
snap or whatever.
Speaker 2: LSU got like four of those right defensive tackle two
flinches is left left arm. Ah, it'd be great if
you can see that versus here.
Speaker 3: Uh, that looks like preview A and M if. I
had to guess with the color scheme, I can't tell
because they're backs to us.
Speaker 2: We're watching like end zone copy. Dude, you know you
know a mess with Lutcher. I get it. It was
River any part of them all.
Speaker 3: Right, wind totals for the teams that we saw yesterday,
l s U, Old Miss, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt. Right now,
l SU's wind total is set at eight and a.
Speaker 2: Half over over over eight and a half.
Speaker 3: Is it eight and a half game season eight and
a half that includes postseason no twelve games?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking I'm I'm taking the over so fast
it would make your head spim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually I think disappointment would be nine.
I don't I don't think that that would be That
wouldn't be what anybody would want, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, unless something goes disastrously wrong, I just can't see
I can't find four losses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you they're gonna win twelve games.
I have them as a ten and two football team.
I have been playing, you know, at least four or
five really good teams. Yeah, I can't find four losses
on our season.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: The Old Miss Rebels said it eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's see here. What do you got?
Speaker 3: So I think because of their schedule, I think it
feels like a nine win team them and Missouri probably
Like when I look at schedule, I think actually lines
up the best, and so like when you look at Okay,
I'm trying to get them to nine wins in Georgia State, Yep,
two Lane, Washington State, the Citadel, Mississippi State, like those
are five that I can get right now for Old
Miss and even like, gosh, you look at games against Arkansas,
I can probably give you that, So that's six right there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I would say at Kentucky, but they lost to them
a year ago, So it's can they win three of
the games at Kentucky, at Georgia, at Oklahoma, South Carolina
and Florida.
Speaker 2: You know what as I lay this out, Yeah, it
might be an eight and fourteen. Yeah, I got you know,
five guaranteed wins. I'm gonna give them Arkansas. Yeah, I'm
gonna give him six there. Okay, at home, so they'll
have to be Kentucky. Yeah, gotta beat Oklahoma. That puts
them at eight. If they win those two games, then
they got to pull a Yeah, I got him an eight. Yeah.
I think they're eight and four football team. I mean,
obviously it's gonna depend a lot on how the new
quarterback and.
Speaker 3: Close and I want to say, closer to nine than
seven Austin Simmons played, Yeah, you know what I mean,
like closer to nine than seven, but still eight and
four field. They lost a lot man, and I trust
Lane Kiffin to get Austin Simmons ready to go. Caden
Lee was a stud catching up with him yesterday. Incredibly
impressive young man. They've got some weapons on offense. If
Logan Digs is fully healthy. But I mean, you can't
lose what they lost in the front seven at Ole
Miss and just expect to be anywhere close to what
they were.
Speaker 2: And last year they were a nine one football team. Yeah,
in one game. I was looking at that interest made
for on that schedule and trying to find wins for
them is to see, we'll see them tomorrow. But the
Florida game, what are they going to be this year?
How big of the step does DJ Lagway take November fifteenth,
I'll know exactly who both those teams are when Old
Miss faces Florida. But just trying to find an eighth
or ninth win for them, I got that one circled
as maybe it's depending on how Florida looks. What we
got a toss up there, all right?
Speaker 3: So we continue moving on down the list of teams
yesterday over under win total South Carolina right now set
at seven and a half.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised to.
Speaker 3: See that number just because of all of the talk
around the game Cocks. They were a nine win team
a year ago. I also, look, if I'm going to
go out there and say what Old Miss lost on defense,
one of the things that's a little too quiet for me,
is what South Carolina lost on defense at every level. Now,
South Carolina's got some homegrown guys that I think are
ready to take a step, but I don't know if
they can take that big of a step.
Speaker 2: Like you have one of the best pass.
Speaker 3: Rushers in the country Stewart on the edge, but you
know what he doesn't have now Kyle Canard on the
other sidepos an All Conference player. I believe he's a
defensive player in the conference. So like you, hey, Bud,
like you know sometimes when you get those single blocks, yeah,
you're not getting a single one of those this year,
Like you're going to get double teamed tight end Chip,
running back Chip. I think they're a better team than
seven and a half wins.
Speaker 2: Their schedule, So they have looking at their schedule South
Carolina State and Coastal Carolina towards the end of the season.
Everybody else here outside of got the SEC schedule. Then
they played Virginia Tech first game the season, and the
last game the season. Of course they played Clemson, so
they do have a tough schedule. But I think I
really liked listening to Shane Beamber yesterday. Impressive, highly impressive
the way. And then I'm betting on a quarterback here,
and I think Leonora's Sellers could be an I mean
he was last year, but I think he could take
that step and be an absolute dog this year. I
think you can a chance to see him in person. Yes,
I did not. It's bigger than I thought it was. Okay,
So Leonora's Sellers to me, has a chance to take
that next step and be a guy in college football
that could lead the charge in this Heisman. Right, agree,
because I think that he's got that ability. And I
think he's got that just hearing his coach talk about
him and reading a little bit more about him on
this past week. Uh, he's gotten an opportunity to take
a huge step forward and the way he plays a quarterback,
of his progression and things like that. So he's got
one of those opportunities to be a guy that can
absolutely dominate college football. And so I'm going to bet
on him, and I say seven and a half is
way low for them. I'll go over. Yeah, I'm gonna
go over for them still for scheduled and I'll miss them.
So do we agree? Right now?
Speaker 3: L shu over Old miss under South Carolina over yes, okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, let's get to the Vanderbilt Commodores. All right, where
are we at Vandy? Their win total four and a half,
four and a half wins for Vanderbilt. Mississippi State's last
in the SEC at three and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's two teams tied at four and a half,
Kentucky and Vanderbilt, and then State is three and a half.
Speaker 2: Four and a half.
Speaker 3: For that guy that I talked to yesterday, there's no chance,
there's no way, there's no way, there is no way.
Speaker 2: The school, well, they got to it. So they got
Charleston Southern because they got a squad this year, the Bucks,
the Buccaneers a SCO base. No way, you knew that mascot.
Are you serious? I didn't know that for sure. Yes,
that's not common knowledge to anybody.
Speaker 3: If you dabble in college basketball betting, it is, okay,
fair enough.
Speaker 2: And they played Georgia State in their fourth game, but
Virginia Tech about them their scheduling in South Carolina, and uh,
Vanderbilt they play. Vanderbilt plays Virginia Tech second week of
the season and beat him last year. That's kind of
what opened our eyes. To Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, but look for okay, four and a half,
it's like Charleston Southern.
Speaker 2: I'll still give him.
Speaker 3: I know they lost last year, Georgia State, Utah State.
Are you telling me they just got to win two more?
And they've got Kentucky, they've got Auburn, they've got other Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, So they got Auburn and Kentucky at home. They
go on the road to play at South Carolina, they
play at Alabama, at Texas, at Tennessee. You got to
mark those four down as losses. I would think six.
Speaker 3: And six fields, but six and fills due, but at
least very du Yeah, five and seven phils.
Speaker 2: I would hammer that that total and go over. The
guy that dropped two S bombs in an F bomb. Yeah,
within thirty seconds of meeting with the with these was
with the He bas.
Speaker 3: Let's eff and go about his team in thirty seconds
because he got himself that fired up. Didn't know he
was on Syrius, didn't know he could say it. He
didn't care, didn't care. They didn't care that he said
he apologizes to nobody.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, let's go over. I'm gonna go five wins.
I'll go over as well, and of course Clarkley incredible, grip, strength, incredible.
That's another one six wins for them for me at
the six and six football team.
Speaker 3: So right now, I'm l s U ten and two,
Old Miss eight and four, ten and two, Frills shoe.
Speaker 2: I'm ten and two. What are you nine and three? No,
I'm definitely not nine and three. I was. I was
saying ten and two eleven one, Okay, I'm ten and two.
Speaker 3: I'm ten and two right now on LSU Old Miss
eight and four, South Carolina eight and four, maybe nine
to three, but eight and four right now, Vanderbilt six
and six, So we got three overs in an under.
Speaker 2: I wanted to go twelve and zh FURRELLI shoe, but
I wanted to keep my journalistic integrity in place. So
I got a bunch of that.
Speaker 3: So I really care about Nicky, said Flynn, just panic
that he needed to know that Charleston Southern mascot that
I needed.
Speaker 2: To I was shocked.
Speaker 3: I'm a little I got like a little rain man
when it comes to that, like to like mascots and
small schools and mid major college basketball is like that
thing for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. It's I mean, it's shocking because
you are a degenerate gambler when it comes to college
basketball college basketball, and I guess I'm thinking about like
what platforms are out there that I've seen, the betting platforms,
and it does usually say like the mascot name, Oh
yeah for sure, Yeah yeah, so yeah, I guess you
know those things.
Speaker 3: I also also do have a three hour show that
we have to talk about every theme and every sport.
Speaker 2: But but Charleston Southern, I know you could talk a lot.
Do you think they got it? Their helmets gotta be
I don't know if you can see this big Yeah, yeah,
there's a helmets about seven thousand helmets Charleston Southern. Probably
I saw.
Speaker 3: I think this is it. I'm gonna go with it.
I saw forkham Demons Northwestern stayed up there. I think
that's I think that's the thing. It's not like the Longhorn,
but it's like the Forkam Dean. I think that's it.
Oh man, I'm not confident in it right now. I
thought I was shoot, I know locy Intec is good dogs.
Speaker 2: Okay, make the bulldog with your hand? Ye? Do you
know tc U s this It's like the girl this
already Gora text chreaching, that's who it is. They say that.
What do they say with the frog? Doesn't they have something? Uh?
I don't know, go frogs. That's something the horny toads.
I don't know what it is. We'll figure it out.
Alandra's laughing in the studio right now because of that
voice you just did.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, it's something that you know. I've had a
lot of practice lately because I've done it on air.
Bunch Bilbo says, have you all discussed how the new
BBB is going to crush competitive gambling? Don't know what
that is? Is it the new Better Business Bureau? Is
that what we're talking about the BBB? If so, let
you know, Uh So, I don't see anything crushing. Prayers
to you, Brennan for sure.
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Speaker 3: All Right, Welcome back in OTV one four five, ESPN,
bat Rouge, Moving right along here Dating number two SEC
Media Days in Atlanta, Georgia College Football Hall of Fame yesterday,
Matthew I was coming to look for you, see what
you're up to, and I got I got stopped by
our boy, Cole Kublick.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's like a little quick little chat like, hey.
Speaker 3: I'm going live here on YouTube, like let's you know,
let's talk a little lshum like col Coke cool ten
twelve minutes, you know whatever. Forty four minutes of talking
yesterday about SEC football. You certainly you joined us jump
him as well. One of the things that he was
talking about and he was asking me about, I think
it's actually a great question. He's that you can steal
this for your show to mars Like I didn't sit
here for forty four minutes for nothing. So he was
talking about when you're a quarterback and you're like a
new quarterback, like so you don't have any built up
equity and you play for a defensive coach. Now you've
done that throughout your career. A couple of different times
in the pros. We talked about Dennis Allen, which we
found out he was actually a good football player at
A and M yesterday from Billy Lucci.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was surprising. Surprised me.
Speaker 3: Then you had obviously Nick Saban in college and he
started talk about it was like, you know, that certainly
is real. And I even mentioned I said, look Less
was an offensive guy.
Speaker 2: He's an offensive line guy.
Speaker 3: But that's the feeling I'm sure that a quarterback, a
new quarterback would have. YEP with coach Miles as well,
because he was so play elite defense, run the football,
make enough place through the air, don't turn the football over.
And you can say, well every says that, yeah, but
when you play for a defensive conservative, don't screw my
defense by turned the football over. I like the mindset
of that. As a quarterback, you have to feel like
you're perfect. And we said this yesterday multiple times. Football
is not supposed to be played to try to be perfect.
Speaker 2: It's not a perfect game, especially on defense, right. Yeah,
And so the conversation you guys were talking about Auburn,
you know, getting ready for today, and the conversation started,
y'all brought me over there to give my opinion on
it as well, talking about Jackson Arnold coming over from
Oklahoma and with Brent Vinnables of course, really good defensive
coordator Clemson a long time. And just like, what is
the mindset of a defensive head coach, the messaging that
could be there, Not putting words in Brent's mouth, We
have no idea his messaging to them, but just talking
about a defensive coach to the mindset is you have
to inspire energy, like you want your guys to play
with their hair on fire. You don't want them to
think there's less thinking on the defensive side of the
ball than there is. I'm not saying that there's no
thinking that you got to play within the game. You
have to know your role, you have to know you know.
You got to watch releases of the number three, number two.
You got to watch the release of the running back.
There's a lot going on, but there's more exits and
notes thinking on the offensive side of the ball. So
then when you have a defensive coach, there's a chance
out there that it could be like, hey, we cannot
turn the ball over, we cannot throw picks, we we quarterbacks,
we can't throw interceptions, and we're the mindset of skill
positions that use their fine motor skills. Said any thrower, swinger, kicker,
you never want to even say put those words out there,
Like you don't want to tell a kicker, kicker off,
hey don't miss this field goal hitter. Yeah, yeah, it's all.
It's all. It's all common because you don't want them
to think too much about it because you train you
tens of thousands of throwing reps, kicking reps. Exactly do
you want them to think if I'm.
Speaker 3: Lining up about the run calendar, I'm like, I don't
care if you call time out.
Speaker 2: It was always there's always like an offensive room, an
offensive team room. When you're when you're addressing an offense,
addressing a quarterback room, you never bring up the word
interceptions Like that's just the thing, Like you don't say
the word interception, right, It's like, we can't throw interceptions here,
blah blah blah unless the only time I've ever really
heard it is the day after game we're reviewing film, like, yeah,
we can't throw this interception right here or whatever. But
when you're here, it's like, hey, we can't turn the
ball over here. It's just one of those black ball things,
like you just don't a taboo. You can't say you
speak you speaking positive language, you speak out, even just
control the Yeah, let's uh, ball security. We have to
focus on ball security today because as a quarterback, you
cannot be walking up to the line of scrimmage saying
all right, don't throw pick. Yeah, don't throw pick. It's
like a you know, a batter stepping up into the
batter's box saying don't strike out, don't strike out, don't
strike out, a kicker, don't miss, don't miss, don't miss.
And if I think sometimes a defensive coaches might have
the inclination to say those taboo words that will instill
like some sort of mindset, because on defense, it's.
Speaker 3: Like get it back, get the ball. So if you're
talking to the offense, it's like, you know, don't throw
a pick. It's the opposite of what I've always been training.
Don't throw that pick. And we talked about like the
confidence level at a quarterback. And I brought up the
Jayden Daniels' first year at LSU and why I was
a little bit critical of him when he first got
here because of his confidence level. You could tell like
in his mind he wasn't getting fed this information. But
in his mind he was like, don't throw a pick.
Speaker 2: Be perfect. I have my legs, I can I can
fall back on that, So don't take the chance down
the field. And we saw him struggle early on, really
early on with getting through progression, progression, progression.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had another least set where he could
make a place or.
Speaker 2: It's down the field and I see the guy. I
think I can make the throw, but I'm gonna play
it safe. I'm gonna tuck it and do what's comfortable
to me. And you mentioned how Brian Kelly had to
tell him throw an interception. You know what, just throw it?
Do you I want you to throw?
Speaker 3: Do you remember the Tennessee game that year is a
day game in Tiger Stadium and the TV caught it.
Brian Kelly meets Jaden on the hash and he's like
he could read his lips. He's like, it's one on
one coverage, Yes, throw, yeah, throw the ball like he
wanted him to try to not be reckless, but to
take you know, take advantage of what they're giving you
take a chance. From that moment on. If you remember
that season, that's when it flipped it click.
Speaker 2: Now, he had some moments, but there was so many
like you saw even before that. You saw like the flashes,
and that's why I think people were a little critical
on him. I'll take ownership in that because I you
saw what could be. Yeah, you saw how good it.
But at playing the quarterback position, he was just hesitant.
And I say it all the time like he made
the biggest transition of a quarterback I'd ever seen in
a very short period of time. And what a testament
to him. But it just proves that point of the
mentality of the fine motor skill positions and you cannot
you have to have that confidence level. And Brian Kelly
is really good. He's obviously one of the top coaches
in the country. He knows that messaging. He's like, hey,
I get it, like you don't want to make a mistake.
I respect that and I appreciate that as a quarterback
because you're trying to take care of the ball. You.
Turnover ratio is one of the probably the biggest stat
that reflects wins and losses is turnover ratio. So I
get it, like you're doing great, Hey, but guess what
throw it pick? Yeah? Do it? Yeah, let it rip
because I think it's going to surprise you if they
have positive outcome. Because we got guys and you're talented.
You can make those throws. And you got to understand
if it's one on one and our guy knows where
he's going and the dB doesn't, we have the advantage
and it just takes that confidence level. Can a defensive
coach give that advice?
Speaker 3: Like if Brian Kelly was a defensive coach, do you
think he would have said the things to Jayden that
he said, like give up a D ball? Yeah, Like, hey,
maybe it kind of appended. Yeah, pull the trigger because
like I look at it like a blitzer, like someone
like a rusher. You want them to get full speech.
So when I'm looking at this list, I'm like, okay, yep.
Lane Kiffin would tell his guy sling it. Uh, Shane
Biember would tell his guy to sling it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian Yeah, Josh hobby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kirby ain't saying that, you know what I'm saying,
like Kirby brin venables it and saying that Mark Curbys.
Speaker 2: I think Kirby is a season enough great coach.
Speaker 3: But even like I mean coach Saban, I guess wasn't
as bad as people might have you know, thought he
was as like a defensive coach and taking care of
the ball, like he wasn't like that uber conservative like
a lot of people fall. But it's just defensive coaches, certainly,
if they've got like an elite defense, that would be like, hey,
don't screw us, We'll take care of you, but don't
put us on the twenty with our back against the
goal line.
Speaker 2: Right, and they score in two plays, right, And I've
never heard a coach before Brian Kelly say that. Right, Yeah,
throw a pick, because what a great way just to
paint a picture to a quarterback like, hey, let a rip, dude,
you're good enough. But yeah, when you start thinking about
it too much, the hardest pass for a quarterback to
complete to somebody wide open because you start thinking about
it too much. And it's a reaction sport. You want
to be prepared. You want to have the hand the bar,
You want to know what to do with the ball
and just react. Let your training take over at that point.
And just because when he's wide open, you're trying to
guide it. You're trying to guide it. When you're trying
not to throw pick, you're trying not to throw a pick.
I might may not pulling the trigger.
Speaker 3: Harder route to throw a like ten yard stop route
where a guy's wide open turning his numbers to you,
are like a two yard flat route to like a
back that nobody went out with him and you got
to throw it at him on Yeah, two yard flat route,
you rather throw that one.
Speaker 2: No, that's the hardest one. Yeah. Back in the day,
like the old school, like bubble routes, bubble passes, those
were hard anything running backs, like wide routes or flat routes. Yeah,
it's just you have to you got to figure out
how as a quarterback, you gotta just finally be like, man,
I'm just gonna rip it. I'm just gonna rip this ball.
Speaker 3: We were playing against the Patriots one year and I
ran We called it an M route.
Speaker 2: It was a little bit different than the swing.
Speaker 3: It was a little slower, a little deeper, like heavy
emphasis on help out your tackle before you get out.
Speaker 2: Like kind of like a like a almost just outside
the inside the number, kind of swing round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I ran one of those, and you know,
I get out late. Philip has pressure. He throws it
like at my feet and like my hands on the ground.
I try to catch it. It skips like right at my
feet or whatever, and I stopped playing. I'm going back
to the huddle, and all of a sudden, I hear
the Patriot coaches like get it, get it. I'm like,
get what the balls that he threw it to me
is in front it's it bounced in front of me,
and they called it lateral no, and all of us
were walking.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, that's a four pass.
Speaker 3: And Vrabel picks it up and he starts like lugging
down the sideline.
Speaker 2: I think it was him, at least maybe it was
that man.
Speaker 3: They all were built the same, every every white outside
linebacker for the Patriots for fifteen years. And I'm like, oh, actually,
I guess I should go chase him.
Speaker 2: He's got but.
Speaker 3: That but that route, I mean, even like somebody like
it's hard. It's it's like I was open and he
through and it kind of like it just went to
my feet and it ended up going the other.
Speaker 2: Way when it happens just like mel Gibson said when
he was fighting the British say, I hadn't heard mel
Gibson quoted in a while, was fighting the British small
miss mom uh that in The Patriot? Yep, oh yeah
it was. I think you believe he was telling the
late Heath Ledger that. Yep, it's a good advice RP.
All right, anything else, anything showing No, I just really
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Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out some other no way
to use that acronym. Nope, nope, nope, nope, you messed
up and win the BMF award here at Radio Row
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Speaker 3: I dare somebody take it from us. I told you
I got called, you got McElroy mac. Let's go, let's go,
you know LSU. Actually I'll help you with Carl about
four seconds right. LSU actually started giving the BMF title
each and every week too after they won, and it
was pretty cool. So whoever whoever won it, they got
like a former player that had like, you know, a
moment kind of like that to film a video and
present it to him and explain why he was the BMF.
Speaker 2: I forget who T Bop did. T Bomp did it once?
Speaker 3: I got a chance to do the first one, and
it was Jade and Daniels after Missouri at Missouri Incomo.
I don't know if you remember that. He had like
a like a broken rib, he had like a busted elbow.
He had blood dripping down his hand. Uh, he had
a back deal and he just like he would like
take a deep breath, find his way along the scrimmage, clap,
get the ball, and then go fight forty yep. And
he come back and he like looked like he's about
to die. Come back, clap, throw it for thirty. Like
it was incredible. Now that that might be the most
fun I've ever had doing a video. I like, I
called him like, hey, like this is the BMF title.
I'm you know, I don't want to overstep here. I
was like, but I don't really think the acronym like
does it justice. They're like, oh no, no, no, no, we
want every syllable.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, nothing more to you. Never want to
show weakness to your opponents, someone you're playing a physical
game with. Yeah, but there's nothing more demoralizing when you
do show weakness and you still gashing them. That is
some BMF stuff right there. Here we go t pal
and the chat said BMF badass Matt Flynn Boom okay,
that's what it stands for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know those fat ankles.
I don't know how bad they were.
Speaker 2: They're not fat, they're strong. You know this you had,
Did you wear those.
Speaker 3: Fat ankle braces because you didn't want people to know
which ankle was hurt?
Speaker 2: I wore those fat ankle braces because when we got
to LSU, it was a requirement to either tape your
ankles or wear the braces. And I didn't like the
way tape felt. I didn't like the way the ankle
braces felt. Certainly I didn't want to do any of
it because at the time I was in the belief
I kind of still am is. If you wear the braces,
you make the ankle weaker. Ooh, that's like my sunscreen
take please expand. Well, you make the muscles weaker, you
make the stability weaker. That's why you see soccer players
with a lot less like knee injuries and stuff because
they don't tape their ankles. They do not and so
like my coach when I was in high school, he
wanted me to wear knee braces in practice, and it
was like not like the metal ones that just going
It was like the sleeve knee bros with the metal
so like talking about last night you had a tiler watch.
It was it was less sexy than that, if you
can believe it. And I was like, coach, like, I'm
wearing this all day, all week, but not in the game.
Like my my legs feel weaker, and so I feel
like I'm more susceptible. So I didn't want to tape them.
I don't believe in it. There you go, my tike.
Speaker 3: We need somebody to call into the show. Uh, you know,
maybe not. This week's not the best. Jack Marucci paging you.
I have heard a rumor, yep, and I heard this
in DestinE from I forget which coach. It might have
been Kirby, that they don't tape ankles anymore because there
was a study of exactly.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about. Brain right here.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, true story, seriously, the study where
to God. So I've always believed it and I did
read it. I remember it was it was it was Kirby.
Speaker 2: It was lame.
Speaker 3: It was like one of those like you know, established
SEC coaches were like, yeah, our guys don't take their
ankles anymore, right, they can I'm sure the options there.
It's not mandatory what he said. He's like, it was study.
Speaker 2: It was man, and it was those nasty like white
braces that like had the shoe string all the way up. Buddy.
Speaker 3: I remember I tried to stand at least one player
between me and you and the huddle, just in case.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, they didn't smell good after
a while. I don't love that, No, it's it was.
It was terrible, but I did when I had my
ankles brand I did spat up. Nothing makes you look
sweeter than a little spat though.
Speaker 3: The only time Les really ever got mad at me
we had we had a practice and he's like, I'm
tired of guys wearing their individual stuff.
Speaker 2: We were going to wear this uniform, We're gonna do this,
We're gonna wear.
Speaker 3: This color socks, this color cleats, blah blah blah blah blah.
And I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be a smart ass.
I I'm a senior, like he likes me.
Speaker 2: I'm man. I roll into practice.
Speaker 3: I had on like Advisor taped ankle our tape spat
like over my cleats. I had like black tape on
my wrist like just trying.
Speaker 2: To be funny. He didn't. He didn't find the funny.
Hey wouldn't He didn't laugh, He didn't laugh. Well, I
mean you were always roughling the feathers of the rules,
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