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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And now handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen, here's

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Handle KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a Friday morning, January tenth, and usually we're

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<v Speaker 3>really thrilled about Fridays. Actually, you know what, waking up

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, even while in the midst of one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most horrific incidentss that we have experienced here in

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<v Speaker 3>southern California, wildfires that are almost beyond comprehension, we actually

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<v Speaker 3>woke up to some pretty good news in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the containment factor. And now we're just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what, how, maybe why these fires started. Is there

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<v Speaker 3>anybody involved? And first let me say hello to one

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<v Speaker 3>and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, sleepy sleepy time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is people've been up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, you were up. You started early this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>coming in three am.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually this is one of three times in my

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five plus year.

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<v Speaker 1>Years in talk radio that I overslept.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I turned off three alarms and do not recall it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've been up doing early early morning shifts for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of days, so yeah, you're doing more. You're

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<v Speaker 3>doing a yeoman's job. Whatever the hell a yeoman is.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I know what a yeoman is, but that's besides

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<v Speaker 3>the point.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it.

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<v Speaker 2>A yeoman is part of the Queen's guard.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at if you go over to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the Tower of London, you will see the uniformed

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<v Speaker 3>guards there and those are traditional guards.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are yeomen.

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<v Speaker 3>Go yo yo, they do, they go no over here

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<v Speaker 3>and they now have turned into actually tour guides is

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<v Speaker 3>what they are. You go in there and you get

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<v Speaker 3>a tour and one of the yeomen give you the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can look that up if you want. Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Hi, how are you hi? I notice you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a Disney shirt on.

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<v Speaker 5>I got my California strong shirt on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's what was that small print? California the

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<v Speaker 3>home of Disneyland, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Is not just California today, okay, California the home of

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers in Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And and good morning, good morning Bill. Putting everybody together,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a show today.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Nathan Hawkman coming on the show this morning

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<v Speaker 3>at seven o'clock. The DA of Orange of Valet County,

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<v Speaker 3>Todd is the DA of Orange County. But Nathan Hawkman

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<v Speaker 3>was in on the press conference yesterday, and you rarely

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<v Speaker 3>see a DA when you're dealing with a natural disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a reason he won and it was really important.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going to be our guest coming up at

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<v Speaker 3>seven o'clock, thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>And poor And didn't you get alerts this morning? Anne

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<v Speaker 1>as well? And oh yeah, oh you've been NonStop this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, it's been interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The only person out there that has sort of not

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<v Speaker 3>had to work extra overtimes meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, we know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought I pulled them out together. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>are up all that long, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching some stuff on Netflix, you know, like Squid

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<v Speaker 3>Game two.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you finish Wicked?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I still haven't finished wickeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you finished Wicked?

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<v Speaker 2>Because first of all, it's a nine hour movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Second of all, you can The only reason I am

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<v Speaker 3>finishing it because I paid thirty dollars for it because

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<v Speaker 3>we have a guest here who is a Wicked fanatic.

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<v Speaker 3>We did it for her and big mistake, biggest mistake

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to finish watching it. Musicals, I love musicals.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's that good. I mean the musical

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<v Speaker 2>musical part of Wicked I thought was great.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Kono, good morning. All right, there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody is there, So let's get right to it. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got news, of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course we do, and most of it relating to the

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<v Speaker 3>fire this morning, but there's some other stuff happening too,

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<v Speaker 3>big stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for handle on the news, Amy King, Neil

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<v Speaker 3>and me, and we start with the news of the

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<v Speaker 3>death toll in the wildfires, now officially to ten. But

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<v Speaker 3>as Anna and I were talking about it, it is

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<v Speaker 3>going to climb like crazy because the cadaver dogs are

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<v Speaker 2>People are going to be reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>My uncle was still in the house, he didn't evacuate,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm willing to bet that other than those people

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<v Speaker 2>The majority are going to be people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who didn't get out and could have because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people tend to ignore mandatory of action orders and

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<v Speaker 3>it costs, obviously a costs not only in their lives

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<v Speaker 3>but just screwing everything up. So we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>now the shot I've been watching this morning KTLA woke

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<v Speaker 3>up to that and last night going to be by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, I wasn't watching Wicked last night, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was glued to the TV.

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<v Speaker 3>There's that one shot where you see, as far as

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<v Speaker 3>the eye can see, just these buildings on foundations, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's all. You see, foundations with a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of debris on them and occasionally a chimney. It reminds

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<v Speaker 3>me of if you've ever seen Gone with the Wind

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<v Speaker 3>or Raiders of Loss Art Gone with the Wind, where

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<v Speaker 3>they do one of the last scenes, a civil war

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<v Speaker 3>scene where the camera is concentrating on a civil war

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<v Speaker 3>victim and someone is tending to him, and the camera

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<v Speaker 3>pulls back and it goes back and then you see

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<v Speaker 3>as far as the eye can see people on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground that have been mahimed or killed. And in the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders of Lost Art, the last scene where the box

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<v Speaker 3>that crate which theoretically has the covenant, so you see

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<v Speaker 3>the worker moving down and then the camera pulls back

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<v Speaker 3>and you see hundreds of thousands of these boxes on shelves.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what that looked like. It looked like a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that did that, and every one of those were a

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<v Speaker 3>home and they're saying how many nine thousand home structures? Amy,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know yet the delineation between homes and structures, We.

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<v Speaker 5>Do not, but it's over fifty three hundred in the

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<v Speaker 5>Palisades fire alone, and they're saying between four and five

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<v Speaker 5>thousand in the fire in the Altadena.

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<v Speaker 2>It's completely insane. It is now. Losing a business is horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there is to not.

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<v Speaker 3>Be able to go to work even if you own

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<v Speaker 3>a business, all right, that is one issue that is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing your home is on a whole different level.

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<v Speaker 3>Because everything you own, your things that you bought, let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>during a honeymoon, and this is just before you got divorced.

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<v Speaker 3>i mean all gone. And then the other thing is

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're going to take a break and then

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<v Speaker 3>go to news. This morning, at the end of wake

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<v Speaker 3>up Call, Amy was talking to Karen Travers, reported for ABC,

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<v Speaker 3>and we now know that the Feds are going to

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<v Speaker 3>cover one hundred percent of firefighting salaries. For example, extraordinary expenses,

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of the planes flying overhead, debris removal, temporary shelter,

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<v Speaker 3>all the expenses related to this. For six months, not rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 3>There will be other federal programs where money can be

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<v Speaker 3>borrowed at either zero or incredibly low rates interest rates,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what happened during the earthquake in nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 3>That program came into being. So this is one of

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<v Speaker 3>those things for those people that hate the government being

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<v Speaker 3>involved in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what government is for. This is why we

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<v Speaker 2>pay our taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is government not only at its best, but

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<v Speaker 3>is at its necessary. It's not foreign policy, it's not Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not Israel as important that those must be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is home.

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<v Speaker 3>This is us helping family and helping neighbors welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine if they put the money from a homeless

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<v Speaker 4>issue and the money from that crap high speed train

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<v Speaker 4>to bury our power lines, how we wouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 4>do all That may mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, priorities, but this things like this bring the priority level.

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<v Speaker 3>They go right to the top. All right, guys, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Got updated numbers. We're actually expecting to get more updated numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>They're doing another news conference today that's happening at eight.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's what we've got right now. The fire and

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<v Speaker 5>Pacific Palisades just under twenty thousand acres burned, but on

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<v Speaker 5>a little tiny bit of a bright side, they're saying

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<v Speaker 5>six percent surrounded, which means they're starting to get lines

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<v Speaker 5>around the fire. The fire burning in the Altadena area

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen thousand, six hundred and ninety acres, it is zero

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<v Speaker 5>percent surrounded. The fire that broke out yesterday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 5>West Hills, Calabasas area one thousand acres burned very quickly,

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five percent surrounded. That was another case of those

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<v Speaker 5>water dropping helicopters really coming to the rescue and stopping

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<v Speaker 5>them from getting into neighborhoods. The Hurst Fire in Silmar

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<v Speaker 5>seven hundred and seventy one acres, it's thirty seven percent surround.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there's a small fire burning in Tahunga it's

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<v Speaker 5>called the Creek Fire three acres. It's flared up a bit,

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<v Speaker 5>so that's why they put it on their fire map.

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<v Speaker 5>It's zero percent surrounded.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when we talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About the percent surrounded, usually that means okay, the fire

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<v Speaker 3>has been contained. It's not going to go beyond that,

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<v Speaker 3>and now they're working their way inwards to put out

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<v Speaker 3>the fire. With these winds, containment means almost nothing when

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<v Speaker 3>you think about it, because the embers start flying, and

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<v Speaker 3>a fire can be zero one hundred percent contained, which

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<v Speaker 3>means it is surrounded or fire breaks have been have

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded the entire fire, and an ember flies over the

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<v Speaker 3>fire break or flies over the road and it just ignites.

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<v Speaker 2>Three miles away.

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<v Speaker 3>Which was the horrific part of the Palisades fire what

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<v Speaker 3>we saw in addition to just this thing going through

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<v Speaker 3>the Palisades like well, wildfire. It's pretty depressing. But now

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<v Speaker 3>the good news, if there is any good news, the

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<v Speaker 3>winds die down.

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<v Speaker 2>If the winds die down, they can deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>If we weren't dealing with enough, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Likelihood of some wingnut trying to add more problems. A

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<v Speaker 4>suspect in custody now after he allegedly tried to start

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<v Speaker 4>a fire in the San Fernando Valley community of Woodland Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy that was on.

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<v Speaker 4>Galindo Street while riding a motorbike of some kind and

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<v Speaker 4>carrying a lit torch. Three residents tackle demand held him

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<v Speaker 4>until the LAPD officers arrived. And this is a developing

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<v Speaker 4>story that's still going on. But that was as a

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<v Speaker 4>last night.

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<v Speaker 3>They should have lit his hair on fire and pretended

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<v Speaker 3>that he was a tiki torch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's well, we're gonna We're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Have Nathan Hawkman on the Lada and talk about what's

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<v Speaker 5>We'll find out if Nathan Hopman has something to say

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<v Speaker 5>about this guy too, who may need to be scooped up.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody was flying a drone in restricted airspace yesterday and

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<v Speaker 5>it crashed into one of the Super Scoopers and damaged

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<v Speaker 5>sitting there instead of scooping up fifteen hundred gallons at

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<v Speaker 5>a time out of the ocean and dumping it on

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<v Speaker 1>It's grounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great, so there's only two of them out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole story of the Super Scoopers is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been twenty years they've been on lease to La

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<v Speaker 3>County and during fire season they come down from Quebec.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Canadian company, and there was a should do it

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<v Speaker 3>buy them?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we not?

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<v Speaker 3>But the program is leasing them. They come down those

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<v Speaker 3>more effective than any other aircraft in terms of water drops.

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<v Speaker 3>Helicopters have to go back to their landing area. The

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<v Speaker 3>baskets have to be filled, the same thing with those

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<v Speaker 2>They both fixed wing and.

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<v Speaker 3>The jets, you know, the propeller planes as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the jets that they have. They have to land, they

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<v Speaker 3>have to be refilled. Super Scoopers boom in and out,

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<v Speaker 3>in and out, and to take half of those off

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<v Speaker 2>Is horrible. This whoever it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was, I don't know if they're going to catch them.

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<v Speaker 3>That should be twenty five to life right there for

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what it is? It is if you

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it's like up to twelve months in jail

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<v Speaker 4>and up to seventy five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine that compared to the damage that it's done.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, here's a lie, here's a little fact about the

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<v Speaker 3>super scooper. You think of it going down and then

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<v Speaker 3>a scoop comes down, some kind of a ramp comes down,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the water is put into the water scooped up.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's a four inch pipe that faces backwards, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what scoops up the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, And let's do it in lakes or can it

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<v Speaker 3>But for use lakes or better, because if you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the ocean out there and the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>In their waves, it can't do it. So it needs

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly flat body of water. And usually it's lakes

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<v Speaker 2>or reservoirs.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you seen what the helicopters what they do? They

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<v Speaker 5>go dip into the reservose because there was a fire

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years ago on your silver.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't seen that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was watching it and they dropped down a

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<v Speaker 5>It's fascinating to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Already, we need a OOPS button for La County because

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<v Speaker 4>they keep making mistakes. Yesterday it was the emergency alert

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<v Speaker 4>issuing an evacuation warning for all of Los Angeles County

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<v Speaker 4>sent out by accident.

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<v Speaker 1>I received it. I'm sure a lot of you did.

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<v Speaker 4>As well, and then it came out what twenty eight

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<v Speaker 4>thirty minutes afterwards that it was like due to a

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<v Speaker 4>technical error. So maybe that was the same technical error

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<v Speaker 4>that sent it out again this morning at four am, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it had to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I didn't get it other people in the room

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<v Speaker 3>that I was at last night, I was having dinner

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<v Speaker 3>with some folks and it was now half of us

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<v Speaker 3>got it and the other half didn't, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>one of those that didn't get it. Also, have you

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<v Speaker 3>seen on social media which is going like wildfire? I

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<v Speaker 3>keep on using that phrase that the fault of these fires,

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom is at fault, And now I'm waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>actual video footage of him igniting fire with a barbecue lighter.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't need to have done that to have some

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<v Speaker 4>hands in the problem. They are still you know, whether

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<v Speaker 4>they took out foliage and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Oo.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So there's this guy. He has a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 5>He lived or lives in Pacific Palisades, depending on whether

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<v Speaker 5>his house survived. But he has deleted his X account

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<v Speaker 5>now because he got a lot of backlash for going

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<v Speaker 5>on to X and basically pleading for private firefighters to

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<v Speaker 5>come and save his house. His name is Keith Wasserman,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, does anyone have access to private firefighters

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<v Speaker 5>to protect our homes in Pacific Palisades? Need to act fast?

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<v Speaker 5>Here all neighbors houses burning will pay any amount thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>To see is the video of him going up to

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<v Speaker 3>firefighters are burning house to say, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make some money. No, he didn't do that. Now, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tacky and all of that, but they're desperate. Their

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<v Speaker 1>homes are about to burn down and they can't do

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<v Speaker 1>what about it?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do he started doing? If you're a private

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<v Speaker 2>firefighter start negotiating? That's I got to tell you. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole world to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a visual U the price is going up.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean what this happened to the Kardashians I

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<v Speaker 4>think too when there was a fire in their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>They were hiring private firefighters or something and people complaint.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are private By the way, who are private firefighters?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a national association.

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<v Speaker 4>Of private firefighters? And where do they get the equipment?

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<v Speaker 4>Arm retired? And they probably this is a business, it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so where do they get the water?

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<v Speaker 3>They go up to city fire hydrants and it's a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that would work.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe they bring their own trucks of water.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we still have to go, right, your own trucks

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<v Speaker 3>are water comes out like pumps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have the old you know, fire brigade handing park.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't yeah, with their own buckets out with.

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<v Speaker 1>Only put it out with Fiji. I don't want the bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff, all right, Trump to be sentenced today, What a

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<v Speaker 4>weird time we are living in. President elect Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is scheduled to be sentenced this morning on felony charges.

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<v Speaker 4>This is his history making for better or for worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>He tried desperately with his legal team to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>this wouldn't happen before inauguration ten days from now. So

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<v Speaker 4>the scenting is scheduled for nine thirty eight m Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 4>So just right about now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a little confused about his position, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you why. First of all, he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>that absolutely no no jail time, but it's an unconditional discharge.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have to talk to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>There'll be no probation officer, there's no phone calls to

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<v Speaker 3>make here's what I'm doing, Here's where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll simply be a conviction on the record.

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<v Speaker 3>Why he's fighting it so hard when part of it

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<v Speaker 3>he's wearing it as a badge of honor. This shows

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<v Speaker 3>you what the Department of Justice has done? Or this

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<v Speaker 3>I think is yeah, Department of Justice or is this a.

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<v Speaker 2>State court.

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<v Speaker 3>New York criminal courts, a state court and the weaponization

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<v Speaker 3>of the system against me? This is Trump talking, And

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<v Speaker 3>this proves it. I would wear it as badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's gone back and fourth on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he may want the attention of it too.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, but I think it proves it in the

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<v Speaker 4>news and telling his base that hey, look I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>being persecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And prosecuted, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly the point.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going to be And when the sentencing happens,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will today, he'll of course appeal it, which

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of fun because appealing the sentence is not

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<v Speaker 3>the same as saying you're not guilty, because that's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. He'll be the first president in history

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<v Speaker 3>to go into the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>As a convicted felon.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just one more notch with the argument that

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<v Speaker 3>this is probably going to be He is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the most unique president we have had.

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<v Speaker 2>Or ever will have in the history of this country.

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<v Speaker 4>The nice thing is the next convicted felon that goes

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<v Speaker 4>into the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but he's going to really talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>But done, it's not even going to be it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be news.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not unprecedented or anything. It's just like, oh yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Another Yeah, here's another huge story in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 5>And it has to do with President elect Trump. A

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<v Speaker 5>federal appeals court has ruled that special counsel Jacksmith's report

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<v Speaker 5>on Trump's attempts to overturn the election and the January

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty January sixth, twenty twenty one investigation can be

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<v Speaker 5>made public. Actually it's not about hold on, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>about the overturning the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I conflated the two stories with the next story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, let me TikTok story.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well, anyway, the court said, yep, you can release.

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<v Speaker 2>This right, But but that's not the appeals court.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because now a lower judge has also said, we've

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<v Speaker 5>got a three day.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay.

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<v Speaker 5>That gives Trump time to appeal, which.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>And once he appeals at AA and it will go

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<v Speaker 3>on appeal by the time he hits office next week

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<v Speaker 3>or a week after that. He just simply orders it

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<v Speaker 3>not to be released because it'll be a Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Justice report and he controls the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Why does it matter Because isn't the world going to

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<v Speaker 4>explode when he takes office?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, no, No, all will happen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, a couple of things will happen. Every illegally be

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<v Speaker 3>deported that day. And as I said many times, please

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<v Speaker 3>I want the bus franchise because I can't even imagine

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<v Speaker 3>how many buses are going.

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<v Speaker 2>To have to be leased.

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<v Speaker 3>Greenland will become ours. We're going to pay for it,

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<v Speaker 3>although I don't know if we're financing it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And what the interest rate would be to buy Greenland.

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<v Speaker 3>The Panama Canal comes back to us. You've been violation

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<v Speaker 3>of the treaties we signed.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I are going fishing in that Gulf of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah great, And there's that. The Ukraine War is over

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<v Speaker 3>that day. And Israel, I'll tell you, Israel really loves

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump a lot because well, he is about as

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got he actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Has a lot of popularity amongst a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is one of the issues. All Right, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to take a break, come back with our very

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<v Speaker 3>last segment of Handle on the Law before we move on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sorry Handle on the News. I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>already thinking about tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It's do I mix that up every single week.

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<v Speaker 3>On Friday every week. I actually can go through a

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<v Speaker 3>week without mixing up those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know how long have you been doing? It's

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<v Speaker 1>still new.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't quite gotten to it yet. All right, So.

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok could shut down unless the Supreme Court blocks or

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<v Speaker 4>delays the US BAND. So this is an important case

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<v Speaker 4>for people that you know, love social media and this

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<v Speaker 4>social media age. You've got free speech attached to this

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<v Speaker 4>national security all this stuff. So the Supreme Court today

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<v Speaker 4>going to be an argument over the fate of TikTok

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<v Speaker 4>and we shall see how it goes down. It could

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<v Speaker 4>be shut down. Essentially, it will be shut down if

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<v Speaker 4>the Court right down. Yeah, under law, right now, law

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<v Speaker 4>is past shutting this puppy down. Congress said it's done. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>there's two sides to this coin, and both have a

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<v Speaker 4>good argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Side number one First Amendment right, do we have access

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<v Speaker 3>half of America uses TikTok okay side to national security?

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<v Speaker 3>It's owned by the Chinese and they can get any

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<v Speaker 3>information on anybody with TikTok okay national security that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, has it happened yet? It has not.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no evidence of the Chinese government actually using going

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<v Speaker 3>into any of the information that TikTok has. The fun

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<v Speaker 3>part is the argument of First Amendment because we have

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<v Speaker 3>such First Amendment rights with American companies in China, don't we.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't we if half if the half of America is

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<v Speaker 4>using tik talk, they're probably the half we don't need.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't we send them to China and then they can

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<v Speaker 4>still use TikTok and we clean things up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, except there's no First Amendment rights in China.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it would have to be pro Chinese. Every

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<v Speaker 2>one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them just saying, but we'll see what happens when the

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<v Speaker 3>court does. If I had to guess, if I had

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<v Speaker 3>to guess, I think the court is going to go

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<v Speaker 3>with the shutdown of TikTok or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow okay case.

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<v Speaker 5>RFK isn't aok. With thousands of docs, more than fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>thousand doctors have signed a letter urging Senators to vote

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<v Speaker 5>against confirming Robert F. Kennedy Junior as Secretary of Health

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<v Speaker 5>and Human Services. The letter reads, the health and well

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<v Speaker 5>being of three hundred thirty six million Americans depends on

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<v Speaker 5>leadership at HHS that prioritizes science, evidence based medicine, and

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<v Speaker 5>strengthening the integrity of our public health system. The letter

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<v Speaker 5>goes on to say RFK Junior not only is unqualified

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<v Speaker 5>to lead this essential agency, he is actively dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>And the proof in the putting is what happened in Samoa.

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<v Speaker 3>He had advocated against the measles vaccine, saying it was dangerous,

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<v Speaker 3>and the medical authorities and the government of Samoa bought that,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a spread of measles and people died

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<v Speaker 3>because of measles in Samoa, And so, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what'd you kind of surprised that it's only fifteen thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>There's over a million doctors in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you can only how many pages do you

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<v Speaker 3>have if you have more than fifteen thousand signatures that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pages.

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<v Speaker 4>You got over two hundred and fifty thousand for a recall, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but recalled whom.

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<v Speaker 1>When we tried to recall?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you do get to. But that's the general public,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not doctors. That's all of.

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<v Speaker 3>Us asking for a recall. So per capita, probably more

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<v Speaker 3>doctors than not. I'd like to see how I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to see how many doctors sign a petition advocating him

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<v Speaker 3>being put in his cabinet Secretary Health of Health and

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<v Speaker 3>Human Services.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd be lying if I said that his views

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<v Speaker 4>on vaccination didn't scare me just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But we shall see, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats joined with the Republicans to take a major step

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<v Speaker 4>towards Senate passage of the gop Led immigration bill. So

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<v Speaker 4>this has been going back and forth a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>This would this gop Led bill would require the detention

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<v Speaker 4>of undocumented migrants charged with certain crimes, a key step

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<v Speaker 4>that puts a legislation on the verge of passage. And

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<v Speaker 4>this important this is these are bad people. If you

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<v Speaker 4>look at it as immigrants first, you've got a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>These are criminals, well, they are alleged to be criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not bad people.

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<v Speaker 3>They're simply charged with the crime and sore convicted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, convicted. That's another story.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're talking about requiring the detention of people charged

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<v Speaker 3>illegal immigrants. So if that he becomes law, or if

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<v Speaker 3>the policy stays the same of illegal immigrants not being

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<v Speaker 3>detained when they're charged with theft or burglary, now you

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<v Speaker 3>can be detained if you're charged with theft for burglary.

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<v Speaker 3>So the takeaway here is do it as an illegal immigrant.

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<v Speaker 3>Simply say you're illegal and they're not going.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep you. Okay, that's maybe maybe not all Right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're done, guys. That's it. This is KFI A M

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<v Speaker 2>six forty. You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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