Speaker 1: Alana Rose my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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come on the show. Alana, thank you so much for
coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm as pleasure to be here. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you. Let me ask you this,
before adult content became your career, who were you? What
type of personality did you have? And this question was
kind of later, but I'm going to tie it in,
like could people were people surprised when you went into
this industry where you Yeah, so tell me who you
were and then let's talk about getting.
Speaker 2: In Okay, So kind of a little background, I guess
you could say like my personality was actually was like
pretty introverted, never had like a lot of friends, but
I was definitely like I feel like I was also
always known as like the girl. I was always getting
into the little guys too. So I. But I was
also like pretty academic. I was really focused on school
all the time. I don't know it was. I was
just a pretty normal girl. I'd say, you know, I
went to college classes, I like working out, and but
I still kept a pretty small circle and didn't really
do any partying anything like that. I had like two
blackout nights and said never again. And I haven't really
drank since. So oh okay, all right, pre normal girl
though nothing.
Speaker 1: I had a blackout COVID then decide I'm not going
to drink any anything since just every night you pound
in like camper bottle and then you get up, you
work from home, and you go, I can live like
this forever. And then your liver starts to hurt a lot,
and you go, yeah, and maybe I won't.
Speaker 2: You know, You're like yeah, maybe, yeah, no, And like
I only have one kidney too, so alcohol is like
totally off limits for me. Like I just it's not
good for anyone, but especially people that only have limited organs.
Speaker 1: Sure, really not good. Limited organ I've never heard it
referred to as limited organs.
Speaker 2: I have a limited organ, yeah, and I mean it
is a blood filtering organ, so I'm not trying to
get all that toxic me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm good, totally understand, totally understand. So so yeah,
so your personality what It's so funny. I interview so
many performers who I've like watched engage in giant gang
bang scenes and they just go, I'm such an introvert,
and I'm like, are you? Because I see every part
of your body here and everything inside.
Speaker 2: Too, it's really interesting. Yeah. I mean I'm really introverted
the core. I only have one friend. I'm home pretty
much all the time. Like I said, I don't drink,
same thing with drugs or anything like that. I don't
do any of that. So yeah, I'm pretty much like
a huge homebody. And you know, I think I'll get
like in really social dudes. Like really, it's during ovulation
because if you don't know, that's actually like the peak
of the month where women are most outgoing and social.
So I will notice that like starkly, like when I
get to that point, I'll be like, oh my god,
I can't wait to meet this person, And any other
time the month, I'm like, I'm so scared what are
they going to be like? But yeah, that's typically when
I like to shoot because I'm kind of like my
alternative self, Like I'm outgoing, I'm social, I'm flirty, I'm
like it just makes for perfect scenes and all those things.
So yeah, it's pretty interesting. But yeah, like you said,
I've met so many girls that are pretty introverted to
the core, but somehow they're important, somehow they're doing like
crazy stuff. So I don't know. I think that's just
how everyone is, honestly.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, I mean to an extent. Now, now,
let me ask when you are shooting content, and I
want to get into how you shot content, but I
want to tag that real quick. Is it not in
a negative way at all? Is it a mask you
have to put on to be able to perform like it?
Does it just feel natural in the moment you're an introvert.
If I was an introvert, I'd be like, leave my
house today. Fuck that. Why would I do that? So
if you're on set with a bunch of dudes and
like girls doing makeup or whatever else, it's like, how
do you not think, like, man, I'd rather just be
at home right now.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I do
think that. Okay, it depends on the people that are
at the set. Honestly, I'll have great guys, great girls
that I meet and the conversation's flowing and we have
stuff in common, and you know, you always have that
topic of work because you know that's obviously the common
ground between everyone is work. So yeah, I mean to
answer your question, I mean, yeah, sometimes I do think that,
but most of the time, when I find that common ground,
you can kind of build off of that. Yeah, you
might it might not be your person that you'd hang
out with outside of work, but kind of just go
with it. Like to me, like the meeting, meeting the
people and getting a note best like they're rough forest
part for me, I could sit there and like flip
the switch, and then once the scene goes, it's all natural.
It's all flowing. Like if I don't have to talk,
that's honestly easier for me. That's the worst part. But no,
it kind of goes both ways.
Speaker 1: Say okay, all right, so how did you all right?
You're this introvert girl in college class as you're doing well,
you're a smart person, drank a couple of times, not
great limited organs. Uh, how do you go from that
and go? You know, what I'm gonna start. However you started,
was it camming? Was it of? Was it? What were
you doing right off the bat where it was like
you crossed from Vanilla into where we are now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of was doing college classes at
the time. And when I went to college, like I
was kind of like, I'm not going to say I
was forced to go to college because it was, but
I was in such an environment where college was a
necessity and it was taken very seriously how I was
raised and stuff. So I just thought, Okay, I graduated
high school and now I just have to jump in college.
It was kind of just like all right, just doing
what I'm supposed to be doing kind of thing. But
going back to like I was always found as like
the flirty girl, always getting in trouble with guys. Definitely true,
and so I kind of always had this like this
want to post myself on the line to build up
like kind of a platform and kind of like this,
like like I said, going back to like I'm an
intro person, but like I'm a different person online. So
I always loved that. There's actually this one girl I
followed named Taylor White, and I just loved the aestheticness
of it. I loved like the sexuality component of it,
but I love that she had this brand. It was
all about like kind of this becoming another person. So
I always kind of had that want. So I was like, Okay,
well how do I get into that? And I first
started posting on Reddit. That was how I started, and
from then on out I kind of became like a
solo clip creator and that's still kind of like one
of my biggest things today is being a solo clip creator.
And I kind of from there I built on I
got the Twitter after kind of establishing myself on Reddit,
and then I started collabing with people, and then you know,
with those things, I grew as a creator, and then
then I started doing sets. So yeah, I mean, I
think just starting on Reddit as a creator, a clip creator,
really just it set the whole thing down for me,
and it's kind of what I've grown and built off of.
Speaker 1: So this. I wrote this question, and I wrote it
very detailed, and I realize now I sound like a
fucking robot. As I wrote it, I was basing it
on Erica, the greatest pr agent in the world. I
sent your bio over and I read it through it.
Here's my robot chat GPT question I have for you.
It wasn't chatgy, but I sound dumb.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: You had dream you had dreams of being a dancer
or even doing cirque de solet style performances. Do you
think the physical performance background helped shape the kind of
creator you became?
Speaker 2: That's actually it was set up great? Was this might
few words? I definitely think so. I definitely. When I
was a dancer, I loved the attention. I'm not gonna lie,
I love the attention. I loved perfecting the art of
dancing so I could show people like, hey, I can
do this and I can do that. It's just kind
of I think that's the root of all performers in life.
And it doesn't matter what kind of performer you are.
Everyone wants that kind of attention. But also and like
kind of that displaying what you're best at and what
you put in the most time and effort in asaid
anyone would. But also it gives you that experience, It
gives you kind of helps your stage fright, it helps
you kind of see that entertainment world a bit. So yeah,
I would, I would say it definitely helped me want
to become what I am today. And like I said,
i'd want I've always wanted to be in entertainment. It
didn't matter if it was if I ended up in dancing,
circ sole.
Speaker 1: Movie.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I ever really wanted to
be an actor, but modeling I was really interested in
as well. So I always wanted to be in Spotlight
and it just so happened I went the route of this,
so it and really, once you're in this, you realize
how intertwined the film and entertainment, dancers, everything, you realize
how intertwined everyone truly is. Everyone works with the same
like directors. Like for example, of my directors for a
pretty recent shoot of mine, also was a director. He
also does hip hop music videos and he does like
news videos for very big artists. So working with those
kind of people you basically get the whole experience. You
basically are in the same network and understanding the whole
concept of the entertainment world. You just experience it in
a little different ways. So I love that part of us.
Speaker 1: So coming into the industry because this you touched on
something there that I find so interesting. And the stigma
the outside perception right of you would be this. She
wakes up at noon, she goes and does her little
porn scene, She gets her fifty thousand dollars check, she
comes home, she doesn't have to do anything else the
rest of the day. Now, now, having done two hundred
of these interviews and obviously starting my own show by myself,
did you have any idea how much additional work goes
into this industry prior to coming in? Maybe you did,
Maybe you didn't, Like, I don't want to hold it, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: All right, No I did it.
Speaker 1: Did you realize sex was going to be five percent
of your job?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the icing, That's the icing on the cake.
That's the easiest part because at that point, you've already
done everything else in order to get you to that point,
if that makes sense, Like you know, you've already made
the arrangement, arrangements for the shoot or for the club,
whatever you may be doing. You've already done the promo.
You you're already there, like you're ready. Like that's that's
the easiest part of it. I had no fucking idea
how hard this would be. And it goes so much
more than just the business side. Of it too. You
you're on the finance side of it too, to the
tax is the business licensing everything, like all of the deductions.
I mean, I had no idea what that deep. I
thought I would just hop on my phone, you know,
like take pictures, like do my little videos or and
this is I'm really referring to before I started mainstream shoots.
But you know, I thought that all it was. You know,
I posted everyone's like comments, messages, and I just keep posting. No, no, no, no, no,
It's just so complex, Like like it was funny that
you said, Oh, you think people probably think, oh, you
just wake up at noon, and no, like I wake
up is seven am. Like every day, I make my bed.
As soon as I wake up, I get ready, like
full on get I do not just launde around pajamas
all day. I take my dogs out and then immediately
as soon as I get I get back from walk
my dogs. You know, I'm promoting until about like two pm,
like one or two pm. So I mean that in itself,
just the just the promotional part and just making sure
on top of socials is just the first thing I
do for the day that's not including content, that's not
including like last night, for example, I'm like, oh fuck,
Memorial Days coming up, So you know, I'm on Amazon
getting some like patriotic stuff and I'm trying to think
of my head. Okay, where am I gonna do the
photo shoot? How am I going to promote the morning
of the day like the best I can? Like, it's
just things like that, and like the mainstream shoots is
like a whole other thing. Like mainstream shoots, you wake
up at six or seven, and you know, the earliest
call time I've had eight, but you're there until My
longest shoot was kind of the one I was referring
to with the director that also did music videos. It
was from ten am to midnight. Yeah, oh so yeah,
it's not And I wish people would understand. You don't
just get there and immediately jump into shooting. It's paperwork.
It's getting to know your your co stars. You know,
they're setting up cameras less, they're like making sure all
is well like, and then when you shoot, it's not
just one take either. It's like a million takes. Wait,
let's do this again. Wait can you do that? That
looked good? We're doing stills, we're doing that like maysure'
the whole different side. But yeah, content creation, at least
I thought was gonna be a hell of a easy.
Speaker 1: That's why I look if people when I talk to people,
if someone has like a moral or religious objection to porn,
I I don't agree, but I go at least I
understand where that comes from. When people go like, these
porn girls are so lazy, I go, yeah, she traded
an eight hour office job for a sixteen hour run
your own business job. I wouldn't call that fucking lazy
or whatever you got. You literally are running an entire business,
and some of you girls get to the point where,
I mean, it's bigger than most small businesses. You're bringing
in revenue. You can be you know, eventually if you
build it up big enough, just like everything else in
this world, if you build your business up big enough,
you can bring in more than a fucking mom and
pop store down the street selling hardware or some shit
like that. Like yeah, yeah, people just don't get that.
And and I really do think, and that's why I
try and do it. I try and heap praise on
you performers for the business aspect at least, Like obviously
I like all the other stuff too, But the business
aspect I respect so much because the girls that do
it right and the girls who make this a sustainable career. Uh,
you have that. It HM, no one's gonna like this,
especially not with Memorial Day coming up. You've earned the
American dream. You have built your own business. You have
you have no boss. I mean essentially in the exactly
we're talking about shoots or anything like that, but you
you have no boss. You have built a business. Is
that eventually, if not now, will rival what other small
businesses do. There is no one who should ever look
at you girls and not be like, oh, that's a
huge entrepreneur right there, Like that is yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well we all are. And it's pretty fascinating
to me. Like, you know, back back to what I
thought was, you know, I was gonna be I thought
I was just gonna be my own personal entity. I
didn't think about anything about taxes. I didn't think about,
you know, actually putting everything under an LC or anything
like that. I had no clue. I was just like,
you know, I'm just gonna do this and it's going
to be short lived and I'm just gonna go with it.
But no, like being self employed. You're totally right. I mean,
no matter and I personally think it doesn't matter how
the fuck you do it. Like getting attaining the American
dream and building something up on your own is a
feat in itself and the entertainment industry, I mean, you
just you have to have the respect and the actual
When you're in this business, you literally just look at
everything else like, oh, that's how they make movies. Like
it's just like you kind of everything becomes a reality
to you, and you realize, this is why this is
a job. This is why people do what they do,
because it's like, it's impossible to do this job without
it becoming a job. It's so it's so large scale
and it's pretty it's pretty amazing. Though. Yeah, I'm very
blessed to be self employed and be able to be
my own boss. But it does come with challenges. It
definitely comes with challenges. But you know, I think if
you're gonna, you know, be fascinated with celebrities like people
that play in movies, models, whatever, you also have to
respect the porn stars as well, because we're also doing
the same exact thing. It just may look a little different.
It's we're just making on camera. But guess what, when
you're watching these movies and their sex scenes and all that,
what are they doing. They're basically doing porn too. Yeah,
that's that's what's fascinating. But it's just when porn is produced,
it's on a business scale. So like these businesses, they're
they're poor companies. So that's that's all it is. That's
the only difference. But it's really no different than what
you watch on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree fully with that. I mean I was
like the whole time, I was like, come up with
something interesting to tag it with, and I was like, no,
she got it, she nailed it. I wanted to go
through a few of your scenes in the past and
get your memories on shooting them. I'm going to show
you a screenshot and I'll show the audience as much
as I can without getting this episode banned. So the
first scene I have for you here comes from lubed.
Here you are looking incredibly slippery. My question to you is, Okay,
this may not seem like the question that was going
to come from this screenshot. Do you have a specific
brand of lube that you like?
Speaker 2: Bad Dragons always the best. To be honest, I usually
don't use it at all, so that's kind of I
don't know. I would say Bad Dragon. The badguardens really
the only one I've used. It's so good. It's especially
because my brand really was solo, especially caters to large toys.
So if Bad Dragon just makes it so easy, because
that's just their entire company, it's just a large chy,
so it's perfect. And I recently found that they have
a clear and I was like, I had no idea
that they had a clear one. I've been using like
the milk colored one the whole time, like the real
like looking one. So I was like, I'm gonna get that.
So I have ran out, so I'm like, that's that's
gonna be my next loop. So I would say bad Drygon.
Speaker 1: I kept my mouth shut during that answer, even though
I wanted to be like, oh, yes, you know what,
because that's a great clip to tag bad Dragon on
and go to the second part of my my question here,
have you ever had the opportunity to secure any kind
of deals with any of these companies and do they
even do that? I have no idea. I interviewed Ka
Lovely one time for Team Skeet and she goes on
about how what was the brand she like slicks lists
something with a Q something like that, and we tagged
her in it and everything, and then she got a
deal with them. We had nothing to do with it.
She's ka lovely, like she's a gorgeous performer with a
huge audience and everything else. But part of me was
a little bit like, hmm, did I get that idea
in someone's head? I, oh, yeah, of course you did.
I don't know, are there brand opportunities for you girls
or and carrib Are there some you can go for
or are they all like, well, this person has the
biggest amount of followers, will just offer it to her
first and then number two next.
Speaker 2: I think it really goes off of your niche, like,
for example, Bad Dragon really partners with girls that are
specifically using Fantasy doldos a lot. So me, even though
like I said, I use large, large toys, I don't
necessarily use fantasy much, so I wouldn't really be a
Bad Dragon Canada. I don't think unless they are strictly like,
oh you like our lube, like it makes it easier
for you, and it really does. I love them to death,
But you know, brand deals happen all the time. Flesh Light,
for example, is a great example of this. Flash Light
will usually go for the biggest stars and they'll be
like like Violet Myers for example. I think the few
others like big names that you think of when you
think of you know, big names in the port right now.
But she partnered with them and they get like royalties
off of them. So I even thought about doing a
fleshlight because you can't apply to be a flushlight girl
I time, haven't done it yet, and then you'll get
like royalties off of it and all that. So yeah,
to answer your question, companies absolutely, especially when it comes
to like the memorabilia kind of companies, they will absolutely
partner with you. And because you know, it also benefits
them as well because if they have a special product
that they made for that person, I mean, they're they're
going to promote it, so it helps them out. So yeah, absolutely,
But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just I always I wonder if there's a way to
take it even for like to almost not command the
thing that sounds real dumb and crazy command a sponsorship,
but like if you specific like I wonder if you
could do videos where you specifically point out how great
the bad dragon loop is and now watch me use it.
Like I wonder if they would go like, oh this.
Speaker 2: They would definitely probably most likely yeah, because I mean
it just I mean that you're promoting their product, so
they're like, okay, well if they promoted our product without
us even asking, I mean, what could they do if
we sent them stuff that we and if we genuinely
had like a work relationship with them, like that would
be what I think they would do. But I don't know.
I never tried it, and I gave an idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, give it a shot. Give it a shot.
The second scene I have for you here and by
the way, I'm going to point out it's the same
as the first scene in one aspect. But second scene
I have from here is your first trip on the
bang Bus bang Bruss. Okay, idiot, I like that bang Bruss.
You recently had another scene released through this Guy's featuring
Chocolate God as well. My question to you is, what
does the bang bus smell like?
Speaker 2: It really just smells like an old band. It really
doesn't smell like anything at all, which I which is
surprising considering all the stuff that happens in there. But
I'll let you in on a little secret so you
like you see in the bottom right corner, you see
like the towel, so they just they just pull out
like the stuff every time that the buses use. I
had this guy come in. I actually worked with this
guy for another scene. It did come out, but I
worked with him and he he went on the bank
bus with another girl and apparently it was an anal scene.
Speaker 1: Okay, he says, no.
Speaker 2: He came in and the reason he was there because
I was at a house and then the bank bus
like departed from the house. They came back and then
you know, I was getting ready, you know, he they're
about to leave. So anyway, he comes in and he's like, yeah,
he's like that girl she didn't prep at all. Like
he's like, I just look over and there's a turd,
just like, oh.
Speaker 1: I still know.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay. I was like that's horrible.
I just like looked at him and I was like,
he was like, yeah, it was announced the disaster. He
was like, she didn't stretch before, you know, and she
didn't obviously prep at all. So he was like that
was just a disaster. He was like I could barely
stay hard for this I was like, I want to
I don't know how you did it. And then the
girl just walks in and I'm like, oh, if only
you knew what he just saw. But yeah, I can
only imagine what the bank bus has been through. It's
a wonder it doesn't snow. Well, I went on the
bank bus before that, so that girl might have changed
all for the for the bus. I don't know, but
I'm sure that that bus gets it has to air ouse.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just parked on the side of the
road airing out. One day. Oh okay, remember my first
day at my office job. It was like my first
big boy job. I was like, okay, I go in
for orientation, I have a suit and tie everything. I
head into the bathroom during our first break and I
don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I shouldn't have
been in this job. I worked a best Buy before this,
and it's like a pharmaceutical job. I'm like, I don't
know what I'm doing. I'm terrified. I walk in the
bathroom and out of the three sinks. I just want
you to know, porn girls don't just go through tough
stuff regular guys like me, do you too? Out of
the three sinks, two of them were just half filled
with puke, and I was like, what the fuck is
this job? And who are they hiring? What are we
doing here? So I'm sorry you went through that. I've
been through similar issues with my work day and day
as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, at the end of the day, we're
all human. I guess you know. We're all human. We
all have bodily functions, even if we don't want to
talk about them. Unfortunately, we all have to face them at.
Speaker 1: One The third scene I have for you here is
from Deep Insects. Okay, now as I click it, I'm
going to point something out. I think you've you've talked
about this before, but I didn't read it anywhere. I
think I may have just seen a skim of it
or something. Your facial expressions are they planned? Are they
part of it? Is it just what happens in the act?
Like what percentage of performance are the facial expressions? Because
they're wonderful. You look like you're fucking blowing your mind
every time I see you.
Speaker 2: I have gone complimented quite a few times when I have
facial expressions. So obviously, after I started get this compost,
I was like, Okay, people like them, so I'm just
gonna keep doing that. It came completely natural. Usually what
I try to do in the stills, especially is I'll
try to actually make the movement while we're not filming
or anything, so I can actually capture that natural phase
so I'm not like over exact or feel like I'm
baking it, because it's the last thing I want to
be doing in any of my content, whether it's scenes,
professional scenes, or contract creation. I've always been very expressive
with my face, and I think especially for I learned
my face and how it looked from all of the
years that I did solo and I was in front
of a camera just staring at myself being like, Okay,
what can I fix here? I think my audience would
kind of like that more if I did a little
more of that, like just kind of just staring yourself
for years on the camera. It really helped me do
my pro scenes and be confident and actually know what
I looked like even if I couldn't see myself at all.
But yeah, I would say that my facial expressions are
definitely part of my brand and I adore I love them,
I love doing them. But yeah, completely natural, just kind
of sometimes I'll just kind of recreate them, but yeah,
most of the time, it's in the moment, I'll make
myself do them.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, what's it like shooting a VR
scene and in your personal use, have you ever like
put on the big headset and sat back with a
nice bad dragon sponsors.
Speaker 2: Eventually, I think everyone kind of agrees that VR scenes
are horrible to film. I hate them. I hate them.
I hate them. And it's not even necessarily it's great
for the guys. Like most of the guys I talk
to that do VR, they're like, oh my god, I
love it. I'm like, yeah, you do, because all you
do is sit there and be a human dildo. And
of course that I'm not trying to, you know, to
discredit them at all, because there's still a mental thing
with guys, even if they have to sit there, because
for example, if they have a wife at home or
you know, there's certain things that they typically like being
done to them and they're just having to sit back
and be a bildo. Technically, you know, it's it's hard
for them to keep that mental like, you know, being
being girls, you can you basically, I mean, you're just
a whole to keep piscifly, there's nothing that you actually
have to mentally connect with and keep hard in order
to do your job. So not to not mean to
describe them at all, but VR for being a girl,
it's just you have to be very mindful, so like
keep in mind, so like for writing, like they think
that position you've just showed me. So like there's a
VR headset in front of me and you can't look.
So there's like two eyes obviously because the actual VR
headsets are meant to go on two eyes, but you
can't look at one or the other. You have to
look directly in the middle of the VR headset in
order for you not to look crossied or to make
it look like weird for the viewer. So there's like
a little an eye something of the companies. But will
I like right in the middle of it or do
the like an X. But the amount of mindfulness you
have to have when doing a VR scene is insane, Like, oh,
make sure you don't go out of the frame when
you do this, or make sure you're like when you
look at the VR headset, make sure you're looking directly
in the middle. Oh, for the guys, they don't want moaning,
they don't want anything being done or like said by them.
They just kind of have to sit there. And for me,
that's hard because there's no interaction to feed off of.
So for example, in like a rough scene, you know,
I'm it's like rough, like the guy's usually jury talking,
he's moaning. He's like, there's there's so much going on
to where you can like feed off of it and
then kind of get in your own mind about it.
But VR, it's dead silent if you stutter, because a
lot of the times they want a little even a
little bit of dialogue, but it's just dead silent. You
have to make sure you don't stutter. You have to
make sure you nail the dialogue because it's just like
it's just you and the camera and you have to
pretend like no one is there behind you, even though
there is. But it's just it's just weird. It's just
a weird experience. I don't love them. I just don't
love them. But they do look great. They look fantastic,
so I'll give them that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to girls who do like doing them.
I've kind of heard similar where it's like it feels
very mechanical. It's like, like you said, attention to detail,
we can't really get like loose and sloppy, like we
have to.
Speaker 2: No oh no, no no, and like that. That's for
the positions too, like when you're doing like it kind
of goes for like other pornines too. But there's just
no freedom. There's none like the with VR. It's like, Okay,
we're doing writing, writing, that's it. Okay. Then once the writing,
once I get enough minutes in for whatever how much
much they want to do, cut now, we're gonna move
on to that. It's just like so my canical. So
like it's so cut up. I just don't like, I
don't like the It's just not what I envisioned porn being.
So h yeah. But the other girls I've talked to,
even before I did any mainstream, they're like, oh my god,
this VR scene, Like you just you have to like
literally be talking to yourself because that's what it is
a lot of the time, like I said, they don't
want the guys speaking, they don't want them doing anything,
moaning nothing. So say you're like, oh do you like
do you like what I'm doing? You have to imagine
them saying yes I do and then yeah, you have
to literally keep the conversation going in your head to
what you think they respond what we respond with. And
it's so it's like you're trying to like think about everything, like, oh,
how do I look? Like? Am I doing good? Like
this was like you're like, actually, it's so it's a
multitasking nightmare. But I mean every VR and it's been successful,
but yeah, I pretty much every every girl I talked
to has the same thoughts about it.
Speaker 1: It's awkward. Does it seem like it's getting because the
VR thing feels like it's dying off, like in society
a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, right I think I think VR is dying off
simply because technology is so far ahead of that right now.
I'm not have to say VR is not kind of
logically advanced, because of course it's extremely advanced, but it's
not it's not really anyone's focus right now. I don't think.
I think right now everyone's focused on AI and like
kind of making their favorite celebrities like naked or like
do certain things that that's kind of the appeal right now.
That's really the trend like VR. I remember VR being
like the like most popular when it first came out,
and I don't really necessarily know what year that was,
but I remember VR was everywhere, and of course porn
companies are going to be feeding off of that and
taking advantage of that. Yeah, rarely do I get VR
scenes so which I'm very happy with that, But yeah,
I do. I do agree with you. I think it's
it's a dying thing. And to be honest, I don't
know how many viewers are actually putting on a headset,
like going through the whole thing at home and being like,
all right, I'm ready to watch. It just doesn't like work.
It doesn't go with me like I don't. I couldn't
see myself doing that. Of course, if you enjoy that,
go ahead, but not natural.
Speaker 1: It's you're right, it was the hot technology and then
it's been jumped so once they are it's a cool thing.
You're right, it is a very cool thing VR, the
concept of it and everything else. I think we just
need to work on the technology. The technology didn't catch
up to what everyone else is into now. Yeah, so
that raises an interesting question. How do you feel about AI,
both you personally and for the industry, Like is it good?
Is it bad? Let me just tell you real quick,
because the audience hates when I talk that. Trust me,
they really do. That's the only comment I get. Shut
the fuck up about yourself anyway, I totally My wife
is an artist. I do this which I pretend is art.
But I will say this, I love that it fills
in the gaps of the things I can't do. It
can't come on here, it can't have a genuine conversation
with you. It can't interact with you and be able
to pivot on a dime and go well what about this?
Or throwing something stupid. But I can't build a fucking website.
And last week I built one in two days, the
ideal website I've ever wanted with chat GPT. I told
it what I wanted, It spit out the code, I
copy and paste it. Could I have hired a web
designer to come in and do this and that and
annoyed them with this and told them to change that
and whatever, and not had the money to pay for that.
I could have, or I could have just built the website.
So how do you feel about it? And how is
the feeling in the industry about it? If you know
how it feels in there.
Speaker 2: Most people hate I'll tell you those most people in
industry hate AI. We were actually at AVN Awards in
January and they made a really stupid call in my opinion,
considering they know how the industry feels about AI. There's
this AI ad in the awards show, and man as
soon as that advertisement and everyone's going boo, Like the
whole fucking audience Whi's just really pissed about it. So yeah,
no one in the industry likes AI, and for good reason.
I mean, AI definitely threatens the porn industry in a sense.
But again, just like you said, AI will never give
you that genuine connection. There will always be real humans
of the world, no matter how Elon Musk wants to modify.
That's what chips in our brains. There will always be
real humans and that is something that AI will never
take from us. In my opinion. You know, I think
there is there's a kink for it. I think some
people do, like I said, like seeing their celebrities do
their favorite things. Obviously that's the wrong thing to do,
but AI does make a lot of fantasies come to life,
and I do believe at that point that's Okay. I
mean I don't believe in AI personally, and that's coming
from an environmental perspective. AI is so horrible for the environment.
I mean, I don't even I think I could paired this.
I was actually talking to my dad about this not
too long ago, but I was like, because he is
very pro technology and pro science and all that, but
I was I was saying, I was like, you know,
like six hundred, there's like some kind of gallons. I
don't know, there's like more than that hole. Let me
look it up. It was a crazy number. But there's
so many millions of gallons of water that is wasted
and required. Yeah, you're cool off all the you know,
software and everything, and it's just so much water that
is wasted, and you know we're already I mean, there's
only so much water on our earth. I mean, we
haven't figured out how to you know, de de salt.
I want to see desalinate, desalinate that. Yeah, desalate, that's
always the word that stumps me. But yeah, we haven't
really figured out how to do that yet. So I
think it's just a really brave thing to be, you know,
throwing away all this water and when there's people. I mean,
those are already places that are I think. I think
it's at Texas. There's like one city that's like officially
going like waterless because there's just no more. So it's
just it's not a good thing for the environment. Obviously,
all of the deforestation and stuff that's happening, and we're
could in these huge AI data centers are also not good.
So I don't believe in it from an environmental perspective.
Now do I think development and improving as a society
is good? Sure, But at that point are you even
considering AI a true part of society. I don't know.
AI does help the society and humans learn and improve
certain stuff like the medical field, like AI in medical
is great, fantastic obviously, certain other things like you know,
space exploration and stuff like that, But I don't know,
I don't consider it a really super beneficial thing for
us outside of things that actually help us progress and
help us as humans.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, and it's you know, everyone always talks like
the biggest issue is displacement, Right, where are people going
to go when this takes the jobs? If it were
to take the jobs, like the blackpill side of this,
you know, it takes all the debts.
Speaker 2: Horrible side of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the first and everyone always goes back. Well,
when the car was invented, you know, it put horse
and buggies, that there was there was always a pivot.
What you're telling not you, but the general what the
general people are telling me with AI is there is
no more pivot because you would pivot from this job
to that job, and that job is also covered by
AI now and you'd pivot to this one, and that
don't work either.
Speaker 2: So the old Yeah, and you're in your example of
like horses no longer being used instead of cars. I
mean you can't say you can't say that that was
a bad thing because the horses don't want to fucking
share your own buggies. I mean, they're they're life forms
of our own. But we can't pivot off of different
life forms anymore. Well, we're pivoting off of things that
have already been replaced by AI, So that that's the
problem here. I mean I would at that point pivoting
off of animals was great because you know, we've no
longer had to rely on them and put them to
work and make enforce them to work. Like that that
was that was horrible. But Ai, I just it's really
ruining a lot of job opportunity and it's it's gonna
be it's gonna be tough, it's gonna be really hard,
and I mean that's kind of I think what contributes
to a lot of anxiety from our generation our society
is all that. I mean, what if you don't they say, oh, yeah,
I go to school, But are you actually going to
school for something that won't be replaced? There's not many
jobs that, if you look in the future, aren't going
to be replaced by that. So what do you actually
go for? What are you working towards? You know?
Speaker 1: You know, it would be so funny if what happened
is as as Ai rises. If the most important college
degree you could possibly have is creative writing for prompt writing,
wouldn't it be great Because everyone looks at creative writing
people and goes like, I was a calm major. So
it's like, you know that people look at me and
go that's not even real, Like communications, what do you mean, Well,
I'm talking to porn stars now, so fuck off. But
but yeah, I have a friend who you know, used
it for something and he was very blunt. He was
just like move this over here in a picture. He
was redoing his bath them and what you have to
be like more detailed and more you know whatever. I'm
done talking about AI because I understand your perspective on it,
and it makes me sick every day. I just I'm
still the Utah one is real bad. The thing they're building.
Speaker 2: And I just heard about that.
Speaker 1: Terrible thousand acres or some fucking ridiculous I don't even know.
Speaker 2: But and the thing is, you can't. You can't give
this back. I mean, if you destroyed the data center
and you know, let nature take back, I mean, yeah,
you could give it back, but there's there's not We're
not going to be getting more nature. That's what's blowing
my mind, is nature. Even though we're so developed and
we're so like we've already taken so much for nature,
we're like just a little more work, just a little more,
and not just keeps that's just the kind of the
memo of all of it. Just a little more. It's
just way we've already done enough. But no, it's it's horrible.
And when is when is going to be the point
where we take so much? Where we're like damn, like, yeah,
we can't fix this. I mean, we should have stopped
when we could. And then I just it's really devastating.
It completely is. And I mean there's there's already so
many species that are dying because of habitat lost, and
you know, human encroachment and all that. I mean, what
what else, what else could you add to it? Just
add to it.
Speaker 1: To be fair, all these sinners, to be fair when
we're all dead. Every movie I've seen, everything tends to
grow back nicely when there's no people around. So you
just you just bank on the nukes dropping and then
that'll wipe out the AI too because of like a
big emp and then we'll get right back to deer
and bunnies and everything else wonderful in the world.
Speaker 2: I think you know you'd hope.
Speaker 1: Matt and Alana Rose call for world destruction. That's a headline.
I swear to you. I was gonna pivot to this question,
but I could not cut you off, and I found
it so engaging our discussion about AI. As you were
talking about water and all the water use and how
much water there is. I swear to you My next
question is when did you first realize you could squirt.
Speaker 2: Now that is a transition.
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just kind of like it was years ago, but
you know, I just kind of just happened, and I
was like, well shit, I was kind of fined. I
want to keep doing that. And then you know, when
I started and everything, that became one of my biggest niches.
So I'm really happy I'm a natural squorter. I have
my best friend She's like, can you please teach me
how to squirt? And I'm like, well, yeah, I mean
we could. Can we could do it? Like I have
like a I teach you how to squirt kind of video.
I think that'd be hot, But no, I learned years
ago and I kind of perfected it through the years too.
Like you know, you really hydrate yourself up and then
when you get really horny, you just bang yourself out
and then you're like, wow, that was a whole scenabi See.
Speaker 1: I always find it so interesting when people come into
the industry and they don't know how to do something,
and then they they figure out how to do. To me,
it's amazing, Like you can have your body x amount
of time and be like, fuck, I could do that.
So I didn't know. Is there anything you did learn
in portn where you were like, oh, that's fucking great.
I like that. Maybe not, is it something you've realized
you liked something else. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge writer. I swear my last name instead
of Rose. That should have been a writer because every
single every single scene I do, and they're like, oh
my god, you're such a good writer, and like I
love my clips and all of my scenes where I'm
writing in it. It's just it's just really easy for me.
I have really strong legs because for years before that
I was a dancer and all that. So I don't know.
And I also what's funny is before I even started mainstream,
I really liked the pain of writing, Like when your
biys start burning, you start like giving out on yourself,
You're like fuck, but it becomes like, I don't know,
I kind of had this weird, pain loving fascination with it.
So I just kept going with it, and I thought
it looked amazing on camera. So writing, I would say,
like realizing I was a pretty good writer, and like
people like affirming that and what else. I also it
is kind of isn't like really related in terms of
like what I learned I could do, or what I
learned I could like, Well, no, what I I liked? Yes,
I really learned that I liked like big, like tattooed
older men. Like that was my thing, And that's the
thing I do best with. When I'm filmed and I'm
trying to think of anything else, I don't. I don't
think there's anything else. But yeah, I would say writing
and then big tattooed older muscular men.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. I'm five nine with no ink,
by the way, so I'll just point that out. Sure, sure,
that's average, that's average. I have no I've been with
my wife since I was nineteen's she's five four. We're good,
We're good. If you had to narrow yourself down into
like a specific niche or a category, what do you
think you fall into and do you like that? Would
you like to grow out of that? Is there any desire?
I don't know. I think I have one for you,
and I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 2: Okay. I was just that I want to hear yours first.
But since you said you want to hear mine first, okay,
I would say, there's some of these two categories that
kind of mind, and he said that clip Creator and
BBC is like my two niches and it was completely
accidental how that happened. Like I said, when I first started,
I kind of that was just how I got my
start I Reddit, and that's that's how you kind of
promote on Reddit is clips of you? Where is when
it's one of those platforms where it's an all out platform,
you're the go big or you go home. I never
started off saft. You just kind of have to go
in because that's just how promotion works on there. So
clip Creator and still to this day keep it strong
with that and then BBC. So BBC was a complete
accident for me because, like I said, when I went
from that Reddit to Twitter transition, I started understanding the
industry more because on Reddit it's really just you versus
all this I've read it. There's no community, there's no
kind of following people and like understanding, like you just don't.
I don't know. It's repleally different on Twitter obviously, Twitter,
when I started realizing people collab, I started realizing people
do things promotionally together, and I was like, okay, like
I want to do I want to do my first collab.
So I was just kind of reaching out to like
pretty much every guy that I could message, any guy
that had like mutuals with and all that, and I
was just kind of seeing who it responded, like I
don't know what they'll respond I don't know like who
were respond but let's go with it. Damien Dayski happened
to be one of the first guys that responded, and
so did Dread, and so did King Louis Small and
those those three guys I happened to work with and
made amazing videos with and they're still kind of iconic
to this day. Like to Damian Dayski, I've worked with
three times now, so including the first time, King Louie
twice but only one on one. The other one was
with him and his girlfriend, and then Dread was once
Dreads kind of was I'm like still stuck in between him,
like do I want to do a round two with him?
The first one did so good and it's so demanded,
but I'm like, I want to do that again because man,
it was painful, lovely lovely in the moment, but you know,
still kind of not not the easiest itself. Still, yeah
it's hard, but yeah, that was kind of that was
what That's how I started off, That's how that was
the first kind of that was really the first boy
girl scenes that my fan base and the world saw
of me. So you know what's going to be expected
of me more more of that, and you know, I'm
okay with that. That's fine, I don't care. But it
does become kind of this like war with yourself where
you're like, well, I don't give them this, they won't
be happy or you know, the my fan base will
always want this, so you're kind of always stuck in that,
which again, fine, but it's just something you don't really
think about. You don't think of having we first get off,
you're like, this is a standard, and then you kind
of have to go up past that every time and
the click. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoy it, and it's kind
of just My best friend was so sweet the other day.
She was like, you are probably the best solo creator
I've ever seen. She's like, I'm not trying to kiss
your ass. I'm like, it's like I genuinely think that
it's just so creative, and she was gonna showing this
other girl in my clothes. I was like, thank you,
but no, I want to hear yours. Now what do
you think you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look, and this is no offense to
you and everything. You're cute, you're adorable and this and that.
I mean, and and let me ask you about this
niche too. I think someone goes, we need a stepsister,
Elana Rose, call Alana Rose, what do you think of
the faux incesty niche type thing?
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's just like it's I hear so many
people do bother either. Most people in the industry are
just like, oh my god, like this shit again, because
it's just like every other industry, there's trends that come
within right now. Now the faux incest is what's trending
right now? I forget what my that. My agent made
a great point. She said, like there was something trending
years ago, and I was like, wow, I guess that
was really trending. I can't think of what exactly it was,
but yeah, we go through trends and who knows what else.
The next trend is going to be next after this,
but it will evolve, and you know, I'm fine with it.
I don't have anything and said there are a lot
of people in industry, especially ones with kids and you
know that have actually good family relations with whatever example
they're trying to play or with someone you know. So
some people are kind of off limits with that, and
I completely understand that I'm not in a place where
that is sensitive to me and that would make me
feel uncomfortable. So I'm totally fine with it. I think
I think the concept is hot. They usually when when
you have when you're going off of that, usually they
have a great dialogue and usually they're really fun scenes
to film. So I'm fine with that, and I'm actually flattered.
I love being known as a hot little girl next
door stepsister I's file on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good to hear, because I have heard
definitely the opposite from performers who are just like, dude,
I got kids, I'm not fucking yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: And position it doesn't make me uncomfortable, So I'm going
to go with it. I mean, I'm not going to
turn down a job that you know, just because it's
it is I mean, it's course in the day. Is
it stupid as fuck? Yes, yes, that's the whole thing,
but it's not reality and kind of just gotta go
with whatever your lemits are.
Speaker 1: Is there anything within the world of quote unquote normal
that you would have a moral objection to. Let me
ask you this outside shoots, if like the producer was
like kicking over a bird's nest to find the spot
you were going to fuck in or whatever, would you
be like, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. Just
you know, I'm thinking of you as oh.
Speaker 2: I would absolutely, yeah, absolutely. If the director between that,
I don't care who it is, I'm gonna literally step
in front him and be like no, no, no, no no,
I literally pick on the birds and like replace it. No.
But that's that's a pre interesting them because at first,
when when you introduced that question, I thought you were
meaning like voyeurism or you know, outside chiefs in general.
I love voyeurism obviously, if there's no kids around and
you're not posing a threat or anything like that, I
love it. I think it's just so fun. Just it
always makes your content so much different and it's just
fun because I hike a lot and stuff. But no,
like you just said, like, if you're interfering with nature,
if you're purposely being dickhead and you're doing shit that's
not necessary. Yeah, I'm gonna have a problem with that,
and I would probably if that ever happened, I'd be like, Nope,
we're done. I'm not doing it. I don't like you,
bye bye. And that's just you just can't put a
price on nature though, No, you can put price on
respect for animals. That's just how I see it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get totally get it, totally get it.
Is there okay? And you talked about trends. Is that
what is the next trend you hope, like, what could
take off where you would go, oh fuck, I love that.
I'm good at that and I don't mind making a
thousand videos of this. Is there anything where you're like, yo,
if that takes off, I am solid, like, I'm good
kind of.
Speaker 2: Probably what I just said, like probably a focus on
outdoor stuff and nature stuff, like I'd love to seek
professional companies outside more. I think it would just make
everything more dynamic and would just spice it up a
little bit, because I think we've all seen the typical
you know, casting couch a million times and I don't know,
I just I have maybe some like cool like fantasy concepts.
I mean, I'm I'm sure there's certain companies that specifically
do fantasy stuff, but like maybe like fairies and shit
like that. I just think i'd be cool like not
necessarily putting us in normal roles anymore and making these
people that are typically in like maybe stepsister roles and
all that, like seeing them in different situations and different environments.
I think would be a great new trend to have.
I don't think that'll be a trend to ever. I'm
trying to think though, what would be the next like
taboo trend that they would have. I'm not sure. I'm
not sure. Maybe maybe interracial would be the next trend.
I don't know. I don't know. It's it's hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know, only because yeah, you know what I
would love and I don't think you'd fit this, but
maybe you would not that. I would love this. I
would love to watch the chaos from the outside. I
would love to start seeing Okay, Lisa Ann did it
with Sarah Pallin, right, I would love to start seeing
porn stars doing fucking political influencers. Okay. Now, I don't
want to say this to her. I've interviewed her before.
I don't want to say this to her because I
don't want it to be offensive. I swear to God,
it's not meant to be that. It's something in the
eyes or the mouth. If on a Fox and a
fox on a Fox started doing like behind a desk,
like a Candace Owens thing, and then she's getting fucked,
I think that would sell both to half of the
country that hates Candace Owens and wants to see that,
and half of the country that loves her and is
so mad but definitely has to fucking see that. So
I interviewed a girl years ago who was just getting
into the business. I don't know if she's actually still
in it, but she looked just like AOC from New York.
And my thing is everything. All the news anymore is
just everything about politics. I would love it's they it's
all a distraction, it really is. It's all just distracting
you from moving somewhere else. Yep, yep ye. But I
would love to see porn girls jump back into that
and make a statement. I don't know, is there anyone
you think you could play? Could you be oh you're
still oh go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 2: No, sorry, I had a call come through peat that. No.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I don't know if you
specifically look like anyone. No one's coming to mind, But
I would love to see that trend because it would
be such a nice little fuck you. And what it
might do is move people away from thinking about politics.
So seriously, if like a quarter of them are now
thinking about politics, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, that would definitely be that would be hilarious. Yeah.
The problem is, like everyone's just so sensitive to the
fact of you know, maybe you don't like the person
for their political party, toys or whatnot. And it's just
come on, We've we've got to we've got to make
some fun of this. We've got to make some jokes happen.
Speaker 1: And that's the point.
Speaker 2: It's just not we can't be going at this rate,
this divided rate.
Speaker 1: It's just and and that's what I hope maybe we
all take it so seriously that maybe the idea of
someone you watch is like this is the most important
political news. They're parodying her now, Like I mean, am
I supposed to take this serioes It's almost like when
old people start saying ship like six seven and you go, oh,
that's dead now, Like I don't, I'm not interested in
that anymore. I'm just I'm the old person still saying
oh fair.
Speaker 2: On late and I just think it's the thing. Everyone's like, I.
Speaker 1: Do a quick social media thing, which I I hope
I could do with you real quick at the end
of this. But one of the questions is a number question.
And I've had two girls who go, I don't know,
like six seven and go oh I just fucking said that,
didn't I. I'm like, yeah, you did, you did? And
then they want to get clips for TikTok and whatever,
and I gave it to them. But last question I
have for you here, Alana? Where do we go? Are you?
I interviewed D D. White, who is seventy one years
old and does BBC Gangbang.
Speaker 2: I met White. She's so slay. I love her. I
met her at ex Biz last year and I was like,
I love you.
Speaker 1: She was great. She's so funny, she was great to
talk to. She was amazing too. Yeah. Yeah, So let
me ask, is that your career trajectory? Do you have
an idea of maybe make X amount of money and
then move into this instead? Do you want to do
it just till it doesn't feel right anymore? Like I
understand you know you're you're big, but you're still early
in your life, it seems like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, yeah, I'm yeah. So it's pretty
funny that you say that because I have this is
funny because I this is just such a new thing.
So after this month, I am not shooting any more
mainstream shoots. I am moving away from that. And there's
a few reasons for this. Number one, because my my
OF is suffering right now because I'm not producing nearly
a mouth counted that I'd like to be doing. You know,
my focus drastically shifted from OF to that very quickly.
And you know, if I'm not and if I'm not
working on mainstream sets, I come home and I'm having
some problem from them. My body is just not meant
for it. From and going back to the one kidney thing,
I can't risk it anymore. The amount of yase infections
UTI is severe BB infections that I've gotten, not even
just from the stress of it, but overduching. Because you
douche every time before seen your experience, You're exposed to tons
of bacteria. Obviously from just just the whole concept of
the industry. You know, everyone's going back and fortune one
of another who knows what they're doing in their personal life.
You know, this person, maybe he doesn't have the best hygiene,
all sorts of factors, but my body's just not meant
for it anymore. And I have two very very important
shoots on the later this month, so and I'm going
to be leaving on a very high note after those.
So and I'm fine with that. I shot for a
very special magazine. I did pretty mu much all of
the companies I've wanted to do. After I do that,
and I'm satisfied, I'm content. I'm fulfilled with that. And
has it has it helped my brand and my following
and on and on? Yes, of course. But also I
want to keep my my brand, my content, exclusive to
my page, exclusive to my of where I started, the
reason I'm here today, like what I've built up since
day one. I don't want to lose that. And I
don't want to lose myself either, because you know, when
I when I when I come home from a mainstream
set and I can't even you know, do my infamous
field of it and I only have energy or you know,
my body's not cooperating with me because I've you know,
destroyed in order to get through all these mainstream teams
there's a problem. So you know, I've already discussed this
with my agents and all that and the next after that,
because right now I'm moving to I'm living in Las
Vegas and I'm starting a farm at the end of
this year. So I'm going to be moving transitioning kind
of from well, really my brand's not gonna be changing
that much, but I'm gonna mainly become a farm creator
at that point, and that's kind of be That's gonna
be what I kind of I do. I focus on
ofh I'm doing that kind of do be a farm creator.
You know, obviously, if big opportunities do come up, you
know where I'm shooting for, Like let's say, I don't know,
like Vicent or something like that. Sure, you know, I
maybe do it again, maybe you know, not even guaranteed,
but you know, I'm kind of I'm kind of just
happy with what I did. I came, I saw, I'm
happy and you know, I'm my body and my health
is not worse anymore than that.
Speaker 1: Hell of business woman, ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight,
Alana Rose. You know exactly where you can find her
at Alana Rose eight links to all of her social
media and the better sites if you know what I mean,
or in the episode description, uh Alana, thank you so much.
You were so great to talk to.
Speaker 2: Oh I thank you so much. Yeah, I feel like
if we could talk forever,