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Speaker 1: Alana Rose my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at Alana Rose eight links

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to all of our social media in the episode description below.

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come on the show. Alana, thank you so much for

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coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm as pleasure to be here. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you. Let me ask you this,

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before adult content became your career, who were you? What

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type of personality did you have? And this question was

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kind of later, but I'm going to tie it in,

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like could people were people surprised when you went into

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this industry where you Yeah, so tell me who you

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were and then let's talk about getting.

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Speaker 2: In Okay, So kind of a little background, I guess

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you could say like my personality was actually was like

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pretty introverted, never had like a lot of friends, but

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I was definitely like I feel like I was also

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always known as like the girl. I was always getting

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into the little guys too. So I. But I was

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also like pretty academic. I was really focused on school

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all the time. I don't know it was. I was

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just a pretty normal girl. I'd say, you know, I

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went to college classes, I like working out, and but

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I still kept a pretty small circle and didn't really

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do any partying anything like that. I had like two

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blackout nights and said never again. And I haven't really

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drank since. So oh okay, all right, pre normal girl

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though nothing.

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Speaker 1: I had a blackout COVID then decide I'm not going

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to drink any anything since just every night you pound

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in like camper bottle and then you get up, you

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work from home, and you go, I can live like

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this forever. And then your liver starts to hurt a lot,

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and you go, yeah, and maybe I won't.

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Speaker 2: You know, You're like yeah, maybe, yeah, no, And like

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I only have one kidney too, so alcohol is like

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totally off limits for me. Like I just it's not

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good for anyone, but especially people that only have limited organs.

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Speaker 1: Sure, really not good. Limited organ I've never heard it

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referred to as limited organs.

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Speaker 2: I have a limited organ, yeah, and I mean it

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is a blood filtering organ, so I'm not trying to

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get all that toxic me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm good, totally understand, totally understand. So so yeah,

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so your personality what It's so funny. I interview so

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many performers who I've like watched engage in giant gang

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bang scenes and they just go, I'm such an introvert,

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and I'm like, are you? Because I see every part

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of your body here and everything inside.

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Speaker 2: Too, it's really interesting. Yeah. I mean I'm really introverted

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the core. I only have one friend. I'm home pretty

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much all the time. Like I said, I don't drink,

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same thing with drugs or anything like that. I don't

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do any of that. So yeah, I'm pretty much like

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a huge homebody. And you know, I think I'll get

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like in really social dudes. Like really, it's during ovulation

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because if you don't know, that's actually like the peak

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of the month where women are most outgoing and social.

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So I will notice that like starkly, like when I

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get to that point, I'll be like, oh my god,

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I can't wait to meet this person, And any other

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time the month, I'm like, I'm so scared what are

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they going to be like? But yeah, that's typically when

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I like to shoot because I'm kind of like my

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alternative self, Like I'm outgoing, I'm social, I'm flirty, I'm

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like it just makes for perfect scenes and all those things.

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So yeah, it's pretty interesting. But yeah, like you said,

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I've met so many girls that are pretty introverted to

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the core, but somehow they're important, somehow they're doing like

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crazy stuff. So I don't know. I think that's just

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how everyone is, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, I mean to an extent. Now, now,

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let me ask when you are shooting content, and I

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want to get into how you shot content, but I

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want to tag that real quick. Is it not in

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a negative way at all? Is it a mask you

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have to put on to be able to perform like it?

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Does it just feel natural in the moment you're an introvert.

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house today. Fuck that. Why would I do that? So

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if you're on set with a bunch of dudes and

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like girls doing makeup or whatever else, it's like, how

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do you not think, like, man, I'd rather just be

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at home right now.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I do

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think that. Okay, it depends on the people that are

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at the set. Honestly, I'll have great guys, great girls

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that I meet and the conversation's flowing and we have

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stuff in common, and you know, you always have that

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topic of work because you know that's obviously the common

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ground between everyone is work. So yeah, I mean to

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answer your question, I mean, yeah, sometimes I do think that,

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but most of the time, when I find that common ground,

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you can kind of build off of that. Yeah, you

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might it might not be your person that you'd hang

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out with outside of work, but kind of just go

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with it. Like to me, like the meeting, meeting the

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people and getting a note best like they're rough forest

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part for me, I could sit there and like flip

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the switch, and then once the scene goes, it's all natural.

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It's all flowing. Like if I don't have to talk,

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that's honestly easier for me. That's the worst part. But no,

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it kind of goes both ways.

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Speaker 1: Say okay, all right, so how did you all right?

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You're this introvert girl in college class as you're doing well,

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you're a smart person, drank a couple of times, not

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great limited organs. Uh, how do you go from that

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and go? You know, what I'm gonna start. However you started,

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was it camming? Was it of? Was it? What were

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you doing right off the bat where it was like

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you crossed from Vanilla into where we are now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of was doing college classes at

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the time. And when I went to college, like I

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was kind of like, I'm not going to say I

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was forced to go to college because it was, but

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I was in such an environment where college was a

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necessity and it was taken very seriously how I was

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raised and stuff. So I just thought, Okay, I graduated

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high school and now I just have to jump in college.

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It was kind of just like all right, just doing

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what I'm supposed to be doing kind of thing. But

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going back to like I was always found as like

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the flirty girl, always getting in trouble with guys. Definitely true,

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and so I kind of always had this like this

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want to post myself on the line to build up

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like kind of a platform and kind of like this,

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like like I said, going back to like I'm an

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intro person, but like I'm a different person online. So

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I always loved that. There's actually this one girl I

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followed named Taylor White, and I just loved the aestheticness

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of it. I loved like the sexuality component of it,

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but I love that she had this brand. It was

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all about like kind of this becoming another person. So

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I always kind of had that want. So I was like, Okay,

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well how do I get into that? And I first

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started posting on Reddit. That was how I started, and

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from then on out I kind of became like a

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solo clip creator and that's still kind of like one

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of my biggest things today is being a solo clip creator.

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got the Twitter after kind of establishing myself on Reddit,

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and then I started collabing with people, and then you know,

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with those things, I grew as a creator, and then

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then I started doing sets. So yeah, I mean, I

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think just starting on Reddit as a creator, a clip creator,

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really just it set the whole thing down for me,

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and it's kind of what I've grown and built off of.

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Speaker 1: So this. I wrote this question, and I wrote it

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very detailed, and I realize now I sound like a

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fucking robot. As I wrote it, I was basing it

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on Erica, the greatest pr agent in the world. I

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sent your bio over and I read it through it.

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Here's my robot chat GPT question I have for you.

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It wasn't chatgy, but I sound dumb.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: You had dream you had dreams of being a dancer

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or even doing cirque de solet style performances. Do you

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think the physical performance background helped shape the kind of

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creator you became?

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Speaker 2: That's actually it was set up great? Was this might

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few words? I definitely think so. I definitely. When I

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was a dancer, I loved the attention. I'm not gonna lie,

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I love the attention. I loved perfecting the art of

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dancing so I could show people like, hey, I can

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do this and I can do that. It's just kind

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of I think that's the root of all performers in life.

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And it doesn't matter what kind of performer you are.

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Everyone wants that kind of attention. But also and like

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kind of that displaying what you're best at and what

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you put in the most time and effort in asaid

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anyone would. But also it gives you that experience, It

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gives you kind of helps your stage fright, it helps

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you kind of see that entertainment world a bit. So yeah,

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to become what I am today. And like I said,

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i'd want I've always wanted to be in entertainment. It

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didn't matter if it was if I ended up in dancing,

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circ sole.

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Speaker 1: Movie.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I ever really wanted to

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be an actor, but modeling I was really interested in

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as well. So I always wanted to be in Spotlight

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and it just so happened I went the route of this,

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so it and really, once you're in this, you realize

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how intertwined the film and entertainment, dancers, everything, you realize

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how intertwined everyone truly is. Everyone works with the same

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like directors. Like for example, of my directors for a

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pretty recent shoot of mine, also was a director. He

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also does hip hop music videos and he does like

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news videos for very big artists. So working with those

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kind of people you basically get the whole experience. You

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basically are in the same network and understanding the whole

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concept of the entertainment world. You just experience it in

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a little different ways. So I love that part of us.

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Speaker 1: So coming into the industry because this you touched on

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something there that I find so interesting. And the stigma

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the outside perception right of you would be this. She

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wakes up at noon, she goes and does her little

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porn scene, She gets her fifty thousand dollars check, she

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comes home, she doesn't have to do anything else the

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rest of the day. Now, now, having done two hundred

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of these interviews and obviously starting my own show by myself,

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did you have any idea how much additional work goes

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into this industry prior to coming in? Maybe you did,

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Maybe you didn't, Like, I don't want to hold it, Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: All right, No I did it.

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Speaker 1: Did you realize sex was going to be five percent

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of your job?

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done everything else in order to get you to that point,

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if that makes sense, Like you know, you've already made

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the arrangement, arrangements for the shoot or for the club,

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whatever you may be doing. You've already done the promo.

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the easiest part of it. I had no fucking idea

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how hard this would be. And it goes so much

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more than just the business side. Of it too. You

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you're on the finance side of it too, to the

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tax is the business licensing everything, like all of the deductions.

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I mean, I had no idea what that deep. I

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thought I would just hop on my phone, you know,

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like take pictures, like do my little videos or and

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this is I'm really referring to before I started mainstream shoots.

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I posted everyone's like comments, messages, and I just keep posting. No, no, no, no, no,

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just wake up at noon, and no, like I wake

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all day. I take my dogs out and then immediately

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as soon as I get I get back from walk

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my dogs. You know, I'm promoting until about like two pm,

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like one or two pm. So I mean that in itself,

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just the just the promotional part and just making sure

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on top of socials is just the first thing I

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do for the day that's not including content, that's not

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including like last night, for example, I'm like, oh fuck,

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Memorial Days coming up, So you know, I'm on Amazon

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getting some like patriotic stuff and I'm trying to think

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of my head. Okay, where am I gonna do the

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photo shoot? How am I going to promote the morning

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of the day like the best I can? Like, it's

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just things like that, and like the mainstream shoots is

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like a whole other thing. Like mainstream shoots, you wake

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up at six or seven, and you know, the earliest

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call time I've had eight, but you're there until My

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longest shoot was kind of the one I was referring

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to with the director that also did music videos. It

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was from ten am to midnight. Yeah, oh so yeah,

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it's not And I wish people would understand. You don't

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just get there and immediately jump into shooting. It's paperwork.

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It's getting to know your your co stars. You know,

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they're setting up cameras less, they're like making sure all

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is well like, and then when you shoot, it's not

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just one take either. It's like a million takes. Wait,

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let's do this again. Wait can you do that? That

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looked good? We're doing stills, we're doing that like maysure'

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the whole different side. But yeah, content creation, at least

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I thought was gonna be a hell of a easy.

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Speaker 1: That's why I look if people when I talk to people,

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if someone has like a moral or religious objection to porn,

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I I don't agree, but I go at least I

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understand where that comes from. When people go like, these

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porn girls are so lazy, I go, yeah, she traded

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an eight hour office job for a sixteen hour run

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your own business job. I wouldn't call that fucking lazy

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or whatever you got. You literally are running an entire business,

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and some of you girls get to the point where,

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I mean, it's bigger than most small businesses. You're bringing

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in revenue. You can be you know, eventually if you

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build it up big enough, just like everything else in

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this world, if you build your business up big enough,

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you can bring in more than a fucking mom and

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pop store down the street selling hardware or some shit

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like that. Like yeah, yeah, people just don't get that.

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And and I really do think, and that's why I

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try and do it. I try and heap praise on

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you performers for the business aspect at least, Like obviously

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I like all the other stuff too, But the business

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aspect I respect so much because the girls that do

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it right and the girls who make this a sustainable career. Uh,

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you have that. It HM, no one's gonna like this,

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especially not with Memorial Day coming up. You've earned the

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American dream. You have built your own business. You have

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you have no boss. I mean essentially in the exactly

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we're talking about shoots or anything like that, but you

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you have no boss. You have built a business. Is

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that eventually, if not now, will rival what other small

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businesses do. There is no one who should ever look

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at you girls and not be like, oh, that's a

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huge entrepreneur right there, Like that is yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well we all are. And it's pretty fascinating

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to me. Like, you know, back back to what I

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thought was, you know, I was gonna be I thought

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I was just gonna be my own personal entity. I

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didn't think about anything about taxes. I didn't think about,

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you know, actually putting everything under an LC or anything

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like that. I had no clue. I was just like,

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you know, I'm just gonna do this and it's going

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to be short lived and I'm just gonna go with it.

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But no, like being self employed. You're totally right. I mean,

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no matter and I personally think it doesn't matter how

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the fuck you do it. Like getting attaining the American

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dream and building something up on your own is a

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feat in itself and the entertainment industry, I mean, you

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just you have to have the respect and the actual

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When you're in this business, you literally just look at

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everything else like, oh, that's how they make movies. Like

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it's just like you kind of everything becomes a reality

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to you, and you realize, this is why this is

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a job. This is why people do what they do,

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because it's like, it's impossible to do this job without

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it becoming a job. It's so it's so large scale

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and it's pretty it's pretty amazing. Though. Yeah, I'm very

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blessed to be self employed and be able to be

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my own boss. But it does come with challenges. It

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definitely comes with challenges. But you know, I think if

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you're gonna, you know, be fascinated with celebrities like people

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that play in movies, models, whatever, you also have to

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respect the porn stars as well, because we're also doing

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the same exact thing. It just may look a little different.

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It's we're just making on camera. But guess what, when

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you're watching these movies and their sex scenes and all that,

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what are they doing. They're basically doing porn too. Yeah,

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that's that's what's fascinating. But it's just when porn is produced,

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it's on a business scale. So like these businesses, they're

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they're poor companies. So that's that's all it is. That's

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the only difference. But it's really no different than what

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you watch on TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree fully with that. I mean I was

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like the whole time, I was like, come up with

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something interesting to tag it with, and I was like, no,

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she got it, she nailed it. I wanted to go

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through a few of your scenes in the past and

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get your memories on shooting them. I'm going to show

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you a screenshot and I'll show the audience as much

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as I can without getting this episode banned. So the

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first scene I have for you here comes from lubed.

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Here you are looking incredibly slippery. My question to you is, Okay,

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this may not seem like the question that was going

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to come from this screenshot. Do you have a specific

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brand of lube that you like?

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Speaker 2: Bad Dragons always the best. To be honest, I usually

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don't use it at all, so that's kind of I

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don't know. I would say Bad Dragon. The badguardens really

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the only one I've used. It's so good. It's especially

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because my brand really was solo, especially caters to large toys.

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So if Bad Dragon just makes it so easy, because

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that's just their entire company, it's just a large chy,

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so it's perfect. And I recently found that they have

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a clear and I was like, I had no idea

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that they had a clear one. I've been using like

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the milk colored one the whole time, like the real

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like looking one. So I was like, I'm gonna get that.

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So I have ran out, so I'm like, that's that's

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gonna be my next loop. So I would say bad Drygon.

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Speaker 1: I kept my mouth shut during that answer, even though

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I wanted to be like, oh, yes, you know what,

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because that's a great clip to tag bad Dragon on

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and go to the second part of my my question here,

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have you ever had the opportunity to secure any kind

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of deals with any of these companies and do they

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even do that? I have no idea. I interviewed Ka

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Lovely one time for Team Skeet and she goes on

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about how what was the brand she like slicks lists

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something with a Q something like that, and we tagged

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her in it and everything, and then she got a

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deal with them. We had nothing to do with it.

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She's ka lovely, like she's a gorgeous performer with a

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huge audience and everything else. But part of me was

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a little bit like, hmm, did I get that idea

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in someone's head? I, oh, yeah, of course you did.

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I don't know, are there brand opportunities for you girls

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or and carrib Are there some you can go for

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or are they all like, well, this person has the

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biggest amount of followers, will just offer it to her

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first and then number two next.

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Speaker 2: I think it really goes off of your niche, like,

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for example, Bad Dragon really partners with girls that are

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specifically using Fantasy doldos a lot. So me, even though

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like I said, I use large, large toys, I don't

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necessarily use fantasy much, so I wouldn't really be a

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Bad Dragon Canada. I don't think unless they are strictly like,

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oh you like our lube, like it makes it easier

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for you, and it really does. I love them to death,

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But you know, brand deals happen all the time. Flesh Light,

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for example, is a great example of this. Flash Light

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will usually go for the biggest stars and they'll be

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like like Violet Myers for example. I think the few

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others like big names that you think of when you

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think of you know, big names in the port right now.

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But she partnered with them and they get like royalties

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off of them. So I even thought about doing a

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fleshlight because you can't apply to be a flushlight girl

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I time, haven't done it yet, and then you'll get

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like royalties off of it and all that. So yeah,

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to answer your question, companies absolutely, especially when it comes

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to like the memorabilia kind of companies, they will absolutely

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partner with you. And because you know, it also benefits

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them as well because if they have a special product

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that they made for that person, I mean, they're they're

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going to promote it, so it helps them out. So yeah, absolutely,

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But yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Just I always I wonder if there's a way to

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take it even for like to almost not command the

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thing that sounds real dumb and crazy command a sponsorship,

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but like if you specific like I wonder if you

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could do videos where you specifically point out how great

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the bad dragon loop is and now watch me use it.

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Like I wonder if they would go like, oh this.

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Speaker 2: They would definitely probably most likely yeah, because I mean

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it just I mean that you're promoting their product, so

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they're like, okay, well if they promoted our product without

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us even asking, I mean, what could they do if

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we sent them stuff that we and if we genuinely

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had like a work relationship with them, like that would

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be what I think they would do. But I don't know.

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I never tried it, and I gave an idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, give it a shot. Give it a shot.

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The second scene I have for you here and by

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the way, I'm going to point out it's the same

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as the first scene in one aspect. But second scene

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I have from here is your first trip on the

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bang Bus bang Bruss. Okay, idiot, I like that bang Bruss.

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You recently had another scene released through this Guy's featuring

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Chocolate God as well. My question to you is, what

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does the bang bus smell like?

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Speaker 2: It really just smells like an old band. It really

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doesn't smell like anything at all, which I which is

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surprising considering all the stuff that happens in there. But

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I'll let you in on a little secret so you

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like you see in the bottom right corner, you see

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like the towel, so they just they just pull out

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like the stuff every time that the buses use. I

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had this guy come in. I actually worked with this

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guy for another scene. It did come out, but I

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worked with him and he he went on the bank

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bus with another girl and apparently it was an anal scene.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he says, no.

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Speaker 2: He came in and the reason he was there because

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I was at a house and then the bank bus

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like departed from the house. They came back and then

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you know, I was getting ready, you know, he they're

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about to leave. So anyway, he comes in and he's like, yeah,

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he's like that girl she didn't prep at all. Like

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he's like, I just look over and there's a turd,

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just like, oh.

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Speaker 1: I still know.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay. I was like that's horrible.

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I just like looked at him and I was like,

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he was like, yeah, it was announced the disaster. He

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was like, she didn't stretch before, you know, and she

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didn't obviously prep at all. So he was like that

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was just a disaster. He was like I could barely

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stay hard for this I was like, I want to

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I don't know how you did it. And then the

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girl just walks in and I'm like, oh, if only

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you knew what he just saw. But yeah, I can

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only imagine what the bank bus has been through. It's

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a wonder it doesn't snow. Well, I went on the

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bank bus before that, so that girl might have changed

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all for the for the bus. I don't know, but

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I'm sure that that bus gets it has to air ouse.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just parked on the side of the

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road airing out. One day. Oh okay, remember my first

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day at my office job. It was like my first

474
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,480
big boy job. I was like, okay, I go in

475
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,039
for orientation, I have a suit and tie everything. I

476
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,880
head into the bathroom during our first break and I

477
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,599
don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I shouldn't have

478
00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:27,599
been in this job. I worked a best Buy before this,

479
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:31,200
and it's like a pharmaceutical job. I'm like, I don't

480
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,079
know what I'm doing. I'm terrified. I walk in the

481
00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:36,640
bathroom and out of the three sinks. I just want

482
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,759
you to know, porn girls don't just go through tough

483
00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:41,200
stuff regular guys like me, do you too? Out of

484
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,240
the three sinks, two of them were just half filled

485
00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:47,039
with puke, and I was like, what the fuck is

486
00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:49,759
this job? And who are they hiring? What are we

487
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:53,279
doing here? So I'm sorry you went through that. I've

488
00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:56,599
been through similar issues with my work day and day

489
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,079
as well.

490
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,759
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, at the end of the day, we're

491
00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,720
all human. I guess you know. We're all human. We

492
00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,440
all have bodily functions, even if we don't want to

493
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,480
talk about them. Unfortunately, we all have to face them at.

494
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: One The third scene I have for you here is

495
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:16,839
from Deep Insects. Okay, now as I click it, I'm

496
00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:20,599
going to point something out. I think you've you've talked

497
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:22,599
about this before, but I didn't read it anywhere. I

498
00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:24,559
think I may have just seen a skim of it

499
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,799
or something. Your facial expressions are they planned? Are they

500
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,119
part of it? Is it just what happens in the act?

501
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,359
Like what percentage of performance are the facial expressions? Because

502
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,240
they're wonderful. You look like you're fucking blowing your mind

503
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:38,240
every time I see you.

504
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,039
Speaker 2: I have gone complimented quite a few times when I have

505
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,440
facial expressions. So obviously, after I started get this compost,

506
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,839
I was like, Okay, people like them, so I'm just

507
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:49,920
gonna keep doing that. It came completely natural. Usually what

508
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,039
I try to do in the stills, especially is I'll

509
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,079
try to actually make the movement while we're not filming

510
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480
or anything, so I can actually capture that natural phase

511
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,839
so I'm not like over exact or feel like I'm

512
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:02,480
baking it, because it's the last thing I want to

513
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200
be doing in any of my content, whether it's scenes,

514
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:09,400
professional scenes, or contract creation. I've always been very expressive

515
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,720
with my face, and I think especially for I learned

516
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,200
my face and how it looked from all of the

517
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:18,400
years that I did solo and I was in front

518
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,200
of a camera just staring at myself being like, Okay,

519
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,559
what can I fix here? I think my audience would

520
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,000
kind of like that more if I did a little

521
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,359
more of that, like just kind of just staring yourself

522
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,559
for years on the camera. It really helped me do

523
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,079
my pro scenes and be confident and actually know what

524
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,079
I looked like even if I couldn't see myself at all.

525
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,440
But yeah, I would say that my facial expressions are

526
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,960
definitely part of my brand and I adore I love them,

527
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:45,160
I love doing them. But yeah, completely natural, just kind

528
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,799
of sometimes I'll just kind of recreate them, but yeah,

529
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:50,880
most of the time, it's in the moment, I'll make

530
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,599
myself do them.

531
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:54,759
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, what's it like shooting a VR

532
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:58,319
scene and in your personal use, have you ever like

533
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,319
put on the big headset and sat back with a

534
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,480
nice bad dragon sponsors.

535
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,839
Speaker 2: Eventually, I think everyone kind of agrees that VR scenes

536
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,680
are horrible to film. I hate them. I hate them.

537
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,319
I hate them. And it's not even necessarily it's great

538
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,799
for the guys. Like most of the guys I talk

539
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,400
to that do VR, they're like, oh my god, I

540
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,440
love it. I'm like, yeah, you do, because all you

541
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,519
do is sit there and be a human dildo. And

542
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:27,400
of course that I'm not trying to, you know, to

543
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,640
discredit them at all, because there's still a mental thing

544
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,160
with guys, even if they have to sit there, because

545
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,279
for example, if they have a wife at home or

546
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,799
you know, there's certain things that they typically like being

547
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:38,839
done to them and they're just having to sit back

548
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,960
and be a bildo. Technically, you know, it's it's hard

549
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,680
for them to keep that mental like, you know, being

550
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359
being girls, you can you basically, I mean, you're just

551
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,119
a whole to keep piscifly, there's nothing that you actually

552
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,000
have to mentally connect with and keep hard in order

553
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,880
to do your job. So not to not mean to

554
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,279
describe them at all, but VR for being a girl,

555
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,319
it's just you have to be very mindful, so like

556
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,279
keep in mind, so like for writing, like they think

557
00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:05,839
that position you've just showed me. So like there's a

558
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,480
VR headset in front of me and you can't look.

559
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:11,920
So there's like two eyes obviously because the actual VR

560
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,920
headsets are meant to go on two eyes, but you

561
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359
can't look at one or the other. You have to

562
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720
look directly in the middle of the VR headset in

563
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,640
order for you not to look crossied or to make

564
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
it look like weird for the viewer. So there's like

565
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,720
a little an eye something of the companies. But will

566
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:29,240
I like right in the middle of it or do

567
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,319
the like an X. But the amount of mindfulness you

568
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,880
have to have when doing a VR scene is insane, Like, oh,

569
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,480
make sure you don't go out of the frame when

570
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:40,559
you do this, or make sure you're like when you

571
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,160
look at the VR headset, make sure you're looking directly

572
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
in the middle. Oh, for the guys, they don't want moaning,

573
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,160
they don't want anything being done or like said by them.

574
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:51,960
They just kind of have to sit there. And for me,

575
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,519
that's hard because there's no interaction to feed off of.

576
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,720
So for example, in like a rough scene, you know,

577
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,400
I'm it's like rough, like the guy's usually jury talking,

578
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,519
he's moaning. He's like, there's there's so much going on

579
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,119
to where you can like feed off of it and

580
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,599
then kind of get in your own mind about it.

581
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,839
But VR, it's dead silent if you stutter, because a

582
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,680
lot of the times they want a little even a

583
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,039
little bit of dialogue, but it's just dead silent. You

584
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:18,519
have to make sure you don't stutter. You have to

585
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:20,680
make sure you nail the dialogue because it's just like

586
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,400
it's just you and the camera and you have to

587
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,759
pretend like no one is there behind you, even though

588
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,400
there is. But it's just it's just weird. It's just

589
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,920
a weird experience. I don't love them. I just don't

590
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,640
love them. But they do look great. They look fantastic,

591
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,359
so I'll give them that.

592
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to girls who do like doing them.

593
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,359
I've kind of heard similar where it's like it feels

594
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,839
very mechanical. It's like, like you said, attention to detail,

595
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,839
we can't really get like loose and sloppy, like we

596
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,440
have to.

597
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: No oh no, no no, and like that. That's for

598
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,279
the positions too, like when you're doing like it kind

599
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,720
of goes for like other pornines too. But there's just

600
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,839
no freedom. There's none like the with VR. It's like, Okay,

601
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,200
we're doing writing, writing, that's it. Okay. Then once the writing,

602
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,039
once I get enough minutes in for whatever how much

603
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,279
much they want to do, cut now, we're gonna move

604
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,200
on to that. It's just like so my canical. So

605
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,759
like it's so cut up. I just don't like, I

606
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,640
don't like the It's just not what I envisioned porn being.

607
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,440
So h yeah. But the other girls I've talked to,

608
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,440
even before I did any mainstream, they're like, oh my god,

609
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:23,480
this VR scene, Like you just you have to like

610
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,640
literally be talking to yourself because that's what it is

611
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,720
a lot of the time, like I said, they don't

612
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,359
want the guys speaking, they don't want them doing anything,

613
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,720
moaning nothing. So say you're like, oh do you like

614
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,519
do you like what I'm doing? You have to imagine

615
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,079
them saying yes I do and then yeah, you have

616
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:45,079
to literally keep the conversation going in your head to

617
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
what you think they respond what we respond with. And

618
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,359
it's so it's like you're trying to like think about everything, like, oh,

619
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,200
how do I look? Like? Am I doing good? Like

620
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,720
this was like you're like, actually, it's so it's a

621
00:28:55,799 --> 00:29:00,960
multitasking nightmare. But I mean every VR and it's been successful,

622
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,119
but yeah, I pretty much every every girl I talked

623
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,599
to has the same thoughts about it.

624
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: It's awkward. Does it seem like it's getting because the

625
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,559
VR thing feels like it's dying off, like in society

626
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,279
a little.

627
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Bit, right I think I think VR is dying off

628
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,039
simply because technology is so far ahead of that right now.

629
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,079
I'm not have to say VR is not kind of

630
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,839
logically advanced, because of course it's extremely advanced, but it's

631
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,759
not it's not really anyone's focus right now. I don't think.

632
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,160
I think right now everyone's focused on AI and like

633
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:33,519
kind of making their favorite celebrities like naked or like

634
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,960
do certain things that that's kind of the appeal right now.

635
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,200
That's really the trend like VR. I remember VR being

636
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,440
like the like most popular when it first came out,

637
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640
and I don't really necessarily know what year that was,

638
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,839
but I remember VR was everywhere, and of course porn

639
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:50,480
companies are going to be feeding off of that and

640
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,839
taking advantage of that. Yeah, rarely do I get VR

641
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,599
scenes so which I'm very happy with that, But yeah,

642
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,000
I do. I do agree with you. I think it's

643
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,559
it's a dying thing. And to be honest, I don't

644
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,119
know how many viewers are actually putting on a headset,

645
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,839
like going through the whole thing at home and being like,

646
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,599
all right, I'm ready to watch. It just doesn't like work.

647
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,759
It doesn't go with me like I don't. I couldn't

648
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:15,559
see myself doing that. Of course, if you enjoy that,

649
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,039
go ahead, but not natural.

650
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: It's you're right, it was the hot technology and then

651
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240
it's been jumped so once they are it's a cool thing.

652
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,160
You're right, it is a very cool thing VR, the

653
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,759
concept of it and everything else. I think we just

654
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,200
need to work on the technology. The technology didn't catch

655
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
up to what everyone else is into now. Yeah, so

656
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,799
that raises an interesting question. How do you feel about AI,

657
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,960
both you personally and for the industry, Like is it good?

658
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,799
Is it bad? Let me just tell you real quick,

659
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,119
because the audience hates when I talk that. Trust me,

660
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,039
they really do. That's the only comment I get. Shut

661
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:56,319
the fuck up about yourself anyway, I totally My wife

662
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,559
is an artist. I do this which I pretend is art.

663
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,240
But I will say this, I love that it fills

664
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,599
in the gaps of the things I can't do. It

665
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,359
can't come on here, it can't have a genuine conversation

666
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,279
with you. It can't interact with you and be able

667
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,440
to pivot on a dime and go well what about this?

668
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,480
Or throwing something stupid. But I can't build a fucking website.

669
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,960
And last week I built one in two days, the

670
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,160
ideal website I've ever wanted with chat GPT. I told

671
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,200
it what I wanted, It spit out the code, I

672
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,079
copy and paste it. Could I have hired a web

673
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:30,960
designer to come in and do this and that and

674
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,920
annoyed them with this and told them to change that

675
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,720
and whatever, and not had the money to pay for that.

676
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,200
I could have, or I could have just built the website.

677
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,720
So how do you feel about it? And how is

678
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,200
the feeling in the industry about it? If you know

679
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,559
how it feels in there.

680
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,519
Speaker 2: Most people hate I'll tell you those most people in

681
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:53,039
industry hate AI. We were actually at AVN Awards in

682
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,920
January and they made a really stupid call in my opinion,

683
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240
considering they know how the industry feels about AI. There's

684
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,559
this AI ad in the awards show, and man as

685
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:07,640
soon as that advertisement and everyone's going boo, Like the

686
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,240
whole fucking audience Whi's just really pissed about it. So yeah,

687
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,519
no one in the industry likes AI, and for good reason.

688
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,079
I mean, AI definitely threatens the porn industry in a sense.

689
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,640
But again, just like you said, AI will never give

690
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,559
you that genuine connection. There will always be real humans

691
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,480
of the world, no matter how Elon Musk wants to modify.

692
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,240
That's what chips in our brains. There will always be

693
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,319
real humans and that is something that AI will never

694
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,039
take from us. In my opinion. You know, I think

695
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,920
there is there's a kink for it. I think some

696
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,839
people do, like I said, like seeing their celebrities do

697
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,680
their favorite things. Obviously that's the wrong thing to do,

698
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,200
but AI does make a lot of fantasies come to life,

699
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,799
and I do believe at that point that's Okay. I

700
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,960
mean I don't believe in AI personally, and that's coming

701
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,160
from an environmental perspective. AI is so horrible for the environment.

702
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,440
I mean, I don't even I think I could paired this.

703
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960
I was actually talking to my dad about this not

704
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,880
too long ago, but I was like, because he is

705
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,720
very pro technology and pro science and all that, but

706
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,240
I was I was saying, I was like, you know,

707
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680
like six hundred, there's like some kind of gallons. I

708
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,400
don't know, there's like more than that hole. Let me

709
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,759
look it up. It was a crazy number. But there's

710
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,000
so many millions of gallons of water that is wasted

711
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:25,000
and required. Yeah, you're cool off all the you know,

712
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,519
software and everything, and it's just so much water that

713
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000
is wasted, and you know we're already I mean, there's

714
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:32,759
only so much water on our earth. I mean, we

715
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,279
haven't figured out how to you know, de de salt.

716
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,279
I want to see desalinate, desalinate that. Yeah, desalate, that's

717
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,319
always the word that stumps me. But yeah, we haven't

718
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:45,759
really figured out how to do that yet. So I

719
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,599
think it's just a really brave thing to be, you know,

720
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400
throwing away all this water and when there's people. I mean,

721
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,880
those are already places that are I think. I think

722
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680
it's at Texas. There's like one city that's like officially

723
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:00,720
going like waterless because there's just no more. So it's

724
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:03,359
just it's not a good thing for the environment. Obviously,

725
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,759
all of the deforestation and stuff that's happening, and we're

726
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,960
could in these huge AI data centers are also not good.

727
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,280
So I don't believe in it from an environmental perspective.

728
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,280
Now do I think development and improving as a society

729
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,159
is good? Sure, But at that point are you even

730
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,199
considering AI a true part of society. I don't know.

731
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:27,159
AI does help the society and humans learn and improve

732
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,119
certain stuff like the medical field, like AI in medical

733
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,440
is great, fantastic obviously, certain other things like you know,

734
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440
space exploration and stuff like that, But I don't know,

735
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:41,719
I don't consider it a really super beneficial thing for

736
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,000
us outside of things that actually help us progress and

737
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,719
help us as humans.

738
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,079
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, and it's you know, everyone always talks like

739
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,760
the biggest issue is displacement, Right, where are people going

740
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,119
to go when this takes the jobs? If it were

741
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,280
to take the jobs, like the blackpill side of this,

742
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,039
you know, it takes all the debts.

743
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,679
Speaker 2: Horrible side of it.

744
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the first and everyone always goes back. Well,

745
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,760
when the car was invented, you know, it put horse

746
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,280
and buggies, that there was there was always a pivot.

747
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,079
What you're telling not you, but the general what the

748
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,840
general people are telling me with AI is there is

749
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,559
no more pivot because you would pivot from this job

750
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,000
to that job, and that job is also covered by

751
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,360
AI now and you'd pivot to this one, and that

752
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,199
don't work either.

753
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,599
Speaker 2: So the old Yeah, and you're in your example of

754
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,480
like horses no longer being used instead of cars. I

755
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,679
mean you can't say you can't say that that was

756
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:32,800
a bad thing because the horses don't want to fucking

757
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,159
share your own buggies. I mean, they're they're life forms

758
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,920
of our own. But we can't pivot off of different

759
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,480
life forms anymore. Well, we're pivoting off of things that

760
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,559
have already been replaced by AI, So that that's the

761
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,800
problem here. I mean I would at that point pivoting

762
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,119
off of animals was great because you know, we've no

763
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:50,960
longer had to rely on them and put them to

764
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
work and make enforce them to work. Like that that

765
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,119
was that was horrible. But Ai, I just it's really

766
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:01,039
ruining a lot of job opportunity and it's it's gonna

767
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,000
be it's gonna be tough, it's gonna be really hard,

768
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,559
and I mean that's kind of I think what contributes

769
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,920
to a lot of anxiety from our generation our society

770
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,920
is all that. I mean, what if you don't they say, oh, yeah,

771
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,360
I go to school, But are you actually going to

772
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
school for something that won't be replaced? There's not many

773
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960
jobs that, if you look in the future, aren't going

774
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:21,800
to be replaced by that. So what do you actually

775
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,800
go for? What are you working towards? You know?

776
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,079
Speaker 1: You know, it would be so funny if what happened

777
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:31,199
is as as Ai rises. If the most important college

778
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,400
degree you could possibly have is creative writing for prompt writing,

779
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,679
wouldn't it be great Because everyone looks at creative writing

780
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,559
people and goes like, I was a calm major. So

781
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:43,480
it's like, you know that people look at me and

782
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,559
go that's not even real, Like communications, what do you mean, Well,

783
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,920
I'm talking to porn stars now, so fuck off. But

784
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,599
but yeah, I have a friend who you know, used

785
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:56,760
it for something and he was very blunt. He was

786
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,920
just like move this over here in a picture. He

787
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,920
was redoing his bath them and what you have to

788
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,800
be like more detailed and more you know whatever. I'm

789
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,800
done talking about AI because I understand your perspective on it,

790
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,559
and it makes me sick every day. I just I'm

791
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,320
still the Utah one is real bad. The thing they're building.

792
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: And I just heard about that.

793
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: Terrible thousand acres or some fucking ridiculous I don't even know.

794
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: But and the thing is, you can't. You can't give

795
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,239
this back. I mean, if you destroyed the data center

796
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,559
and you know, let nature take back, I mean, yeah,

797
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,440
you could give it back, but there's there's not We're

798
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,320
not going to be getting more nature. That's what's blowing

799
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,480
my mind, is nature. Even though we're so developed and

800
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,960
we're so like we've already taken so much for nature,

801
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,639
we're like just a little more work, just a little more,

802
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
and not just keeps that's just the kind of the

803
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,599
memo of all of it. Just a little more. It's

804
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:56,039
just way we've already done enough. But no, it's it's horrible.

805
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:57,880
And when is when is going to be the point

806
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,159
where we take so much? Where we're like damn, like, yeah,

807
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
we can't fix this. I mean, we should have stopped

808
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,719
when we could. And then I just it's really devastating.

809
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,679
It completely is. And I mean there's there's already so

810
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,800
many species that are dying because of habitat lost, and

811
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,039
you know, human encroachment and all that. I mean, what

812
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,239
what else, what else could you add to it? Just

813
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,039
add to it.

814
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,599
Speaker 1: To be fair, all these sinners, to be fair when

815
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,599
we're all dead. Every movie I've seen, everything tends to

816
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:32,400
grow back nicely when there's no people around. So you

817
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:35,039
just you just bank on the nukes dropping and then

818
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,480
that'll wipe out the AI too because of like a

819
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,360
big emp and then we'll get right back to deer

820
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,840
and bunnies and everything else wonderful in the world.

821
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: I think you know you'd hope.

822
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: Matt and Alana Rose call for world destruction. That's a headline.

823
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,119
I swear to you. I was gonna pivot to this question,

824
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,039
but I could not cut you off, and I found

825
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,119
it so engaging our discussion about AI. As you were

826
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,559
talking about water and all the water use and how

827
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:04,039
much water there is. I swear to you My next

828
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,400
question is when did you first realize you could squirt.

829
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Now that is a transition.

830
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,039
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know.

831
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: I just kind of like it was years ago, but

832
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,599
you know, I just kind of just happened, and I

833
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,079
was like, well shit, I was kind of fined. I

834
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,519
want to keep doing that. And then you know, when

835
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:25,599
I started and everything, that became one of my biggest niches.

836
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400
So I'm really happy I'm a natural squorter. I have

837
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,199
my best friend She's like, can you please teach me

838
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,559
how to squirt? And I'm like, well, yeah, I mean

839
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:35,039
we could. Can we could do it? Like I have

840
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,239
like a I teach you how to squirt kind of video.

841
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
I think that'd be hot, But no, I learned years

842
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,079
ago and I kind of perfected it through the years too.

843
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,039
Like you know, you really hydrate yourself up and then

844
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,840
when you get really horny, you just bang yourself out

845
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,719
and then you're like, wow, that was a whole scenabi See.

846
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: I always find it so interesting when people come into

847
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,559
the industry and they don't know how to do something,

848
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,760
and then they they figure out how to do. To me,

849
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,280
it's amazing, Like you can have your body x amount

850
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,800
of time and be like, fuck, I could do that.

851
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440
So I didn't know. Is there anything you did learn

852
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:13,760
in portn where you were like, oh, that's fucking great.

853
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,199
I like that. Maybe not, is it something you've realized

854
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,360
you liked something else. I don't know.

855
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,199
Speaker 2: I'm a huge writer. I swear my last name instead

856
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,760
of Rose. That should have been a writer because every

857
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,800
single every single scene I do, and they're like, oh

858
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,760
my god, you're such a good writer, and like I

859
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,400
love my clips and all of my scenes where I'm

860
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,039
writing in it. It's just it's just really easy for me.

861
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,519
I have really strong legs because for years before that

862
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:40,800
I was a dancer and all that. So I don't know.

863
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,360
And I also what's funny is before I even started mainstream,

864
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,920
I really liked the pain of writing, Like when your

865
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,039
biys start burning, you start like giving out on yourself,

866
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,159
You're like fuck, but it becomes like, I don't know,

867
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:55,320
I kind of had this weird, pain loving fascination with it.

868
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,679
So I just kept going with it, and I thought

869
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,719
it looked amazing on camera. So writing, I would say,

870
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,480
like realizing I was a pretty good writer, and like

871
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,400
people like affirming that and what else. I also it

872
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
is kind of isn't like really related in terms of

873
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,320
like what I learned I could do, or what I

874
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,840
learned I could like, Well, no, what I I liked? Yes,

875
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,199
I really learned that I liked like big, like tattooed

876
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,519
older men. Like that was my thing, And that's the

877
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,639
thing I do best with. When I'm filmed and I'm

878
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:27,400
trying to think of anything else, I don't. I don't

879
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
think there's anything else. But yeah, I would say writing

880
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,920
and then big tattooed older muscular men.

881
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. I'm five nine with no ink,

882
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,360
by the way, so I'll just point that out. Sure, sure,

883
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,519
that's average, that's average. I have no I've been with

884
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:52,320
my wife since I was nineteen's she's five four. We're good,

885
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,559
We're good. If you had to narrow yourself down into

886
00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:01,679
like a specific niche or a category, what do you

887
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,199
think you fall into and do you like that? Would

888
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,599
you like to grow out of that? Is there any desire?

889
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,360
I don't know. I think I have one for you,

890
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,400
and I want to hear yours first.

891
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,159
Speaker 2: Okay. I was just that I want to hear yours first.

892
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,159
But since you said you want to hear mine first, okay,

893
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,760
I would say, there's some of these two categories that

894
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,480
kind of mind, and he said that clip Creator and

895
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
BBC is like my two niches and it was completely

896
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,320
accidental how that happened. Like I said, when I first started,

897
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,519
I kind of that was just how I got my

898
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,119
start I Reddit, and that's that's how you kind of

899
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,760
promote on Reddit is clips of you? Where is when

900
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,559
it's one of those platforms where it's an all out platform,

901
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,239
you're the go big or you go home. I never

902
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,519
started off saft. You just kind of have to go

903
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,719
in because that's just how promotion works on there. So

904
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,599
clip Creator and still to this day keep it strong

905
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:51,599
with that and then BBC. So BBC was a complete

906
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,679
accident for me because, like I said, when I went

907
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,639
from that Reddit to Twitter transition, I started understanding the

908
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:59,679
industry more because on Reddit it's really just you versus

909
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
all this I've read it. There's no community, there's no

910
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:06,280
kind of following people and like understanding, like you just don't.

911
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,199
I don't know. It's repleally different on Twitter obviously, Twitter,

912
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,679
when I started realizing people collab, I started realizing people

913
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:18,159
do things promotionally together, and I was like, okay, like

914
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:19,960
I want to do I want to do my first collab.

915
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,159
So I was just kind of reaching out to like

916
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,360
pretty much every guy that I could message, any guy

917
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,519
that had like mutuals with and all that, and I

918
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:27,920
was just kind of seeing who it responded, like I

919
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,880
don't know what they'll respond I don't know like who

920
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,920
were respond but let's go with it. Damien Dayski happened

921
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
to be one of the first guys that responded, and

922
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,079
so did Dread, and so did King Louis Small and

923
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,280
those those three guys I happened to work with and

924
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,800
made amazing videos with and they're still kind of iconic

925
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,119
to this day. Like to Damian Dayski, I've worked with

926
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,800
three times now, so including the first time, King Louie

927
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:57,480
twice but only one on one. The other one was

928
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,920
with him and his girlfriend, and then Dread was once

929
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,760
Dreads kind of was I'm like still stuck in between him,

930
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,679
like do I want to do a round two with him?

931
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,719
The first one did so good and it's so demanded,

932
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,800
but I'm like, I want to do that again because man,

933
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,119
it was painful, lovely lovely in the moment, but you know,

934
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,599
still kind of not not the easiest itself. Still, yeah

935
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,360
it's hard, but yeah, that was kind of that was

936
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360
what That's how I started off, That's how that was

937
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,960
the first kind of that was really the first boy

938
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,920
girl scenes that my fan base and the world saw

939
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,519
of me. So you know what's going to be expected

940
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:33,960
of me more more of that, and you know, I'm

941
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,800
okay with that. That's fine, I don't care. But it

942
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,400
does become kind of this like war with yourself where

943
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,639
you're like, well, I don't give them this, they won't

944
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,000
be happy or you know, the my fan base will

945
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
always want this, so you're kind of always stuck in that,

946
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,000
which again, fine, but it's just something you don't really

947
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,679
think about. You don't think of having we first get off,

948
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,039
you're like, this is a standard, and then you kind

949
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,360
of have to go up past that every time and

950
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,400
the click. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoy it, and it's kind

951
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,039
of just My best friend was so sweet the other day.

952
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,480
She was like, you are probably the best solo creator

953
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,360
I've ever seen. She's like, I'm not trying to kiss

954
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,800
your ass. I'm like, it's like I genuinely think that

955
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,119
it's just so creative, and she was gonna showing this

956
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,440
other girl in my clothes. I was like, thank you,

957
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,880
but no, I want to hear yours. Now what do

958
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,519
you think you know?

959
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look, and this is no offense to

960
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,679
you and everything. You're cute, you're adorable and this and that.

961
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,800
I mean, and and let me ask you about this

962
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,679
niche too. I think someone goes, we need a stepsister,

963
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,559
Elana Rose, call Alana Rose, what do you think of

964
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:45,079
the faux incesty niche type thing?

965
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,639
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's just like it's I hear so many

966
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,599
people do bother either. Most people in the industry are

967
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,639
just like, oh my god, like this shit again, because

968
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:59,320
it's just like every other industry, there's trends that come

969
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,880
within right now. Now the faux incest is what's trending

970
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,320
right now? I forget what my that. My agent made

971
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,239
a great point. She said, like there was something trending

972
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,719
years ago, and I was like, wow, I guess that

973
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,800
was really trending. I can't think of what exactly it was,

974
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:15,760
but yeah, we go through trends and who knows what else.

975
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,719
The next trend is going to be next after this,

976
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:21,400
but it will evolve, and you know, I'm fine with it.

977
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,000
I don't have anything and said there are a lot

978
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,360
of people in industry, especially ones with kids and you

979
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,039
know that have actually good family relations with whatever example

980
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,840
they're trying to play or with someone you know. So

981
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,519
some people are kind of off limits with that, and

982
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,400
I completely understand that I'm not in a place where

983
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,480
that is sensitive to me and that would make me

984
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,480
feel uncomfortable. So I'm totally fine with it. I think

985
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:46,079
I think the concept is hot. They usually when when

986
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,280
you have when you're going off of that, usually they

987
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,599
have a great dialogue and usually they're really fun scenes

988
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:54,280
to film. So I'm fine with that, and I'm actually flattered.

989
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,800
I love being known as a hot little girl next

990
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,239
door stepsister I's file on me.

991
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good to hear, because I have heard

992
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,400
definitely the opposite from performers who are just like, dude,

993
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,559
I got kids, I'm not fucking yeah exactly.

994
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,159
Speaker 2: And position it doesn't make me uncomfortable, So I'm going

995
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,320
to go with it. I mean, I'm not going to

996
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,599
turn down a job that you know, just because it's

997
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,280
it is I mean, it's course in the day. Is

998
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,360
it stupid as fuck? Yes, yes, that's the whole thing,

999
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,079
but it's not reality and kind of just gotta go

1000
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:28,320
with whatever your lemits are.

1001
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,519
Speaker 1: Is there anything within the world of quote unquote normal

1002
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,519
that you would have a moral objection to. Let me

1003
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:39,119
ask you this outside shoots, if like the producer was

1004
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,960
like kicking over a bird's nest to find the spot

1005
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:43,960
you were going to fuck in or whatever, would you

1006
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:46,159
be like, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. Just

1007
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,679
you know, I'm thinking of you as oh.

1008
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:51,199
Speaker 2: I would absolutely, yeah, absolutely. If the director between that,

1009
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:53,079
I don't care who it is, I'm gonna literally step

1010
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,320
in front him and be like no, no, no, no no,

1011
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:59,000
I literally pick on the birds and like replace it. No.

1012
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,480
But that's that's a pre interesting them because at first,

1013
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,880
when when you introduced that question, I thought you were

1014
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,119
meaning like voyeurism or you know, outside chiefs in general.

1015
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,000
I love voyeurism obviously, if there's no kids around and

1016
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,119
you're not posing a threat or anything like that, I

1017
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:14,800
love it. I think it's just so fun. Just it

1018
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,440
always makes your content so much different and it's just

1019
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,039
fun because I hike a lot and stuff. But no,

1020
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,400
like you just said, like, if you're interfering with nature,

1021
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:26,800
if you're purposely being dickhead and you're doing shit that's

1022
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,480
not necessary. Yeah, I'm gonna have a problem with that,

1023
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:31,639
and I would probably if that ever happened, I'd be like, Nope,

1024
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,719
we're done. I'm not doing it. I don't like you,

1025
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,760
bye bye. And that's just you just can't put a

1026
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,039
price on nature though, No, you can put price on

1027
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:43,400
respect for animals. That's just how I see it.

1028
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:47,159
Speaker 1: I get it. I get totally get it, totally get it.

1029
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:50,559
Is there okay? And you talked about trends. Is that

1030
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,239
what is the next trend you hope, like, what could

1031
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,280
take off where you would go, oh fuck, I love that.

1032
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,239
I'm good at that and I don't mind making a

1033
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,440
thousand videos of this. Is there anything where you're like, yo,

1034
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:08,159
if that takes off, I am solid, like, I'm good

1035
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,239
kind of.

1036
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: Probably what I just said, like probably a focus on

1037
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:16,079
outdoor stuff and nature stuff, like I'd love to seek

1038
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:19,800
professional companies outside more. I think it would just make

1039
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,039
everything more dynamic and would just spice it up a

1040
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:25,360
little bit, because I think we've all seen the typical

1041
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,280
you know, casting couch a million times and I don't know,

1042
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,599
I just I have maybe some like cool like fantasy concepts.

1043
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,599
I mean, I'm I'm sure there's certain companies that specifically

1044
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:38,880
do fantasy stuff, but like maybe like fairies and shit

1045
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,960
like that. I just think i'd be cool like not

1046
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,760
necessarily putting us in normal roles anymore and making these

1047
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,880
people that are typically in like maybe stepsister roles and

1048
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,159
all that, like seeing them in different situations and different environments.

1049
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,000
I think would be a great new trend to have.

1050
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,079
I don't think that'll be a trend to ever. I'm

1051
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:56,800
trying to think though, what would be the next like

1052
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,320
taboo trend that they would have. I'm not sure. I'm

1053
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,079
not sure. Maybe maybe interracial would be the next trend.

1054
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,199
I don't know. I don't know. It's it's hard.

1055
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,159
Speaker 1: I don't know, only because yeah, you know what I

1056
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,880
would love and I don't think you'd fit this, but

1057
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,480
maybe you would not that. I would love this. I

1058
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,000
would love to watch the chaos from the outside. I

1059
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:22,519
would love to start seeing Okay, Lisa Ann did it

1060
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,960
with Sarah Pallin, right, I would love to start seeing

1061
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:32,280
porn stars doing fucking political influencers. Okay. Now, I don't

1062
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,760
want to say this to her. I've interviewed her before.

1063
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,360
I don't want to say this to her because I

1064
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,320
don't want it to be offensive. I swear to God,

1065
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,239
it's not meant to be that. It's something in the

1066
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,519
eyes or the mouth. If on a Fox and a

1067
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,719
fox on a Fox started doing like behind a desk,

1068
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,599
like a Candace Owens thing, and then she's getting fucked,

1069
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:53,119
I think that would sell both to half of the

1070
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:55,880
country that hates Candace Owens and wants to see that,

1071
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:58,159
and half of the country that loves her and is

1072
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:01,079
so mad but definitely has to fucking see that. So

1073
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,800
I interviewed a girl years ago who was just getting

1074
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,719
into the business. I don't know if she's actually still

1075
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,280
in it, but she looked just like AOC from New York.

1076
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,639
And my thing is everything. All the news anymore is

1077
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,800
just everything about politics. I would love it's they it's

1078
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,119
all a distraction, it really is. It's all just distracting

1079
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:26,559
you from moving somewhere else. Yep, yep ye. But I

1080
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:29,400
would love to see porn girls jump back into that

1081
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,039
and make a statement. I don't know, is there anyone

1082
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:33,760
you think you could play? Could you be oh you're

1083
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,559
still oh go ahead, go ahead?

1084
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,519
Speaker 2: No, sorry, I had a call come through peat that. No.

1085
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:41,639
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I don't know if you

1086
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:44,000
specifically look like anyone. No one's coming to mind, But

1087
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:46,599
I would love to see that trend because it would

1088
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:49,039
be such a nice little fuck you. And what it

1089
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:53,800
might do is move people away from thinking about politics.

1090
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,519
So seriously, if like a quarter of them are now

1091
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:58,519
thinking about politics, you.

1092
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, that would definitely be that would be hilarious. Yeah.

1093
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:07,079
The problem is, like everyone's just so sensitive to the

1094
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,320
fact of you know, maybe you don't like the person

1095
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:13,159
for their political party, toys or whatnot. And it's just

1096
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,159
come on, We've we've got to we've got to make

1097
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,239
some fun of this. We've got to make some jokes happen.

1098
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: And that's the point.

1099
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:21,119
Speaker 2: It's just not we can't be going at this rate,

1100
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:22,079
this divided rate.

1101
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,079
Speaker 1: It's just and and that's what I hope maybe we

1102
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:29,000
all take it so seriously that maybe the idea of

1103
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,440
someone you watch is like this is the most important

1104
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,239
political news. They're parodying her now, Like I mean, am

1105
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,039
I supposed to take this serioes It's almost like when

1106
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,920
old people start saying ship like six seven and you go, oh,

1107
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,440
that's dead now, Like I don't, I'm not interested in

1108
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,599
that anymore. I'm just I'm the old person still saying

1109
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,719
oh fair.

1110
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:57,079
Speaker 2: On late and I just think it's the thing. Everyone's like, I.

1111
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Do a quick social media thing, which I I hope

1112
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,920
I could do with you real quick at the end

1113
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,760
of this. But one of the questions is a number question.

1114
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,960
And I've had two girls who go, I don't know,

1115
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,559
like six seven and go oh I just fucking said that,

1116
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:12,760
didn't I. I'm like, yeah, you did, you did? And

1117
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,440
then they want to get clips for TikTok and whatever,

1118
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,920
and I gave it to them. But last question I

1119
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,679
have for you here, Alana? Where do we go? Are you?

1120
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,960
I interviewed D D. White, who is seventy one years

1121
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,920
old and does BBC Gangbang.

1122
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,519
Speaker 2: I met White. She's so slay. I love her. I

1123
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,960
met her at ex Biz last year and I was like,

1124
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,239
I love you.

1125
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,119
Speaker 1: She was great. She's so funny, she was great to

1126
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:41,719
talk to. She was amazing too. Yeah. Yeah, So let

1127
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,239
me ask, is that your career trajectory? Do you have

1128
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,039
an idea of maybe make X amount of money and

1129
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,280
then move into this instead? Do you want to do

1130
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,199
it just till it doesn't feel right anymore? Like I

1131
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,199
understand you know you're you're big, but you're still early

1132
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,880
in your life, it seems like.

1133
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, yeah, I'm yeah. So it's pretty

1134
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,480
funny that you say that because I have this is

1135
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,280
funny because I this is just such a new thing.

1136
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,760
So after this month, I am not shooting any more

1137
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,719
mainstream shoots. I am moving away from that. And there's

1138
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,599
a few reasons for this. Number one, because my my

1139
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:27,239
OF is suffering right now because I'm not producing nearly

1140
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,760
a mouth counted that I'd like to be doing. You know,

1141
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,280
my focus drastically shifted from OF to that very quickly.

1142
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:36,559
And you know, if I'm not and if I'm not

1143
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:39,639
working on mainstream sets, I come home and I'm having

1144
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:42,599
some problem from them. My body is just not meant

1145
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:45,519
for it. From and going back to the one kidney thing,

1146
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:48,440
I can't risk it anymore. The amount of yase infections

1147
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:52,519
UTI is severe BB infections that I've gotten, not even

1148
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,000
just from the stress of it, but overduching. Because you

1149
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:59,119
douche every time before seen your experience, You're exposed to tons

1150
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,800
of bacteria. Obviously from just just the whole concept of

1151
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,199
the industry. You know, everyone's going back and fortune one

1152
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:06,239
of another who knows what they're doing in their personal life.

1153
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,639
You know, this person, maybe he doesn't have the best hygiene,

1154
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:11,920
all sorts of factors, but my body's just not meant

1155
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,239
for it anymore. And I have two very very important

1156
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,639
shoots on the later this month, so and I'm going

1157
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:20,840
to be leaving on a very high note after those.

1158
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,440
So and I'm fine with that. I shot for a

1159
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,840
very special magazine. I did pretty mu much all of

1160
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,239
the companies I've wanted to do. After I do that,

1161
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:34,360
and I'm satisfied, I'm content. I'm fulfilled with that. And

1162
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,960
has it has it helped my brand and my following

1163
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:42,480
and on and on? Yes, of course. But also I

1164
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:46,119
want to keep my my brand, my content, exclusive to

1165
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,360
my page, exclusive to my of where I started, the

1166
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,679
reason I'm here today, like what I've built up since

1167
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,119
day one. I don't want to lose that. And I

1168
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:55,639
don't want to lose myself either, because you know, when

1169
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:57,440
I when I when I come home from a mainstream

1170
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,960
set and I can't even you know, do my infamous

1171
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,920
field of it and I only have energy or you know,

1172
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my body's not cooperating with me because I've you know,

1173
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:07,079
destroyed in order to get through all these mainstream teams

1174
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,400
there's a problem. So you know, I've already discussed this

1175
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with my agents and all that and the next after that,

1176
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,480
because right now I'm moving to I'm living in Las

1177
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,400
Vegas and I'm starting a farm at the end of

1178
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this year. So I'm going to be moving transitioning kind

1179
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,280
of from well, really my brand's not gonna be changing

1180
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,000
that much, but I'm gonna mainly become a farm creator

1181
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,760
at that point, and that's kind of be That's gonna

1182
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,039
be what I kind of I do. I focus on

1183
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:37,199
ofh I'm doing that kind of do be a farm creator.

1184
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,760
You know, obviously, if big opportunities do come up, you

1185
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,199
know where I'm shooting for, Like let's say, I don't know,

1186
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,400
like Vicent or something like that. Sure, you know, I

1187
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:49,239
maybe do it again, maybe you know, not even guaranteed,

1188
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,599
but you know, I'm kind of I'm kind of just

1189
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,480
happy with what I did. I came, I saw, I'm

1190
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:56,960
happy and you know, I'm my body and my health

1191
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,199
is not worse anymore than that.

1192
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Speaker 1: Hell of business woman, ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight,

1193
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:04,440
Alana Rose. You know exactly where you can find her

1194
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,639
at Alana Rose eight links to all of her social

1195
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:10,280
media and the better sites if you know what I mean,

1196
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,920
or in the episode description, uh Alana, thank you so much.

1197
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,039
You were so great to talk to.

1198
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Speaker 2: Oh I thank you so much. Yeah, I feel like

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if we could talk forever,