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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now to kick off the Happy hour. Our

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Will Vandervoord from the Clemson Insider, who had

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<v Speaker 1>a double header double header duty up there in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. What's up, my friend? Not better than you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that you had one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>sports weekends I can imagine. We'll get to the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Will, by the way, covers the Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers for the Believe in Clemson Football podcast and the

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson Insider dot com. And he was there in attendance

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<v Speaker 1>at Akroschure Stadium covering uh what I can just describe

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<v Speaker 1>as a gritty win by Clemson, and then he stuck

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<v Speaker 1>around maybe uh maybe camped out in the stadium. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know this roomy and really you saw his from

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand. That was your third Steelers game of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Undefeated, undefeated, right, undefeated?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually yeah, three and zero? Uh, I need the start

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<v Speaker 2>this season. Which was another game where the Steelers didn't

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<v Speaker 2>score touchdowns. Then I went to but they won. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Denver. Yeah we two. They only scored

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<v Speaker 2>one touchdown in that game. And then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>U this game on Sunday and they did score touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>but they won. And by the way, so me and

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Sam and his girlfriend Sonya shout out to Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>They were with me and my brother was with me

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<v Speaker 2>also this week with the Ravens game. But the three

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<v Speaker 2>of us were in Atlanta, no touchdowns, Steelers one. Then

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<v Speaker 2>the three of us were in Pittsburgh, no touchdowns and

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers one. It's the first time in franchise history the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers have won two games in the same season without

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<v Speaker 2>scoring a touchdown. And I was out both of them

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<v Speaker 2>with my buddy Sam and his girl friends Sonya.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the Steelers to my knowledge, don't do they have

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<v Speaker 1>a mascot.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not have one that's on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Who needs to Van Dervoort needs to get a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>That just a big, a big mascot ahead of Will Vanderbilt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and a steel outfit with Will VanderBurg with the grime

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<v Speaker 1>and dirt on his hands. That's right, getting the dirty

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<v Speaker 1>work done. Well. We'll talk to Steelers here in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, what a win it was for Clemson. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start just with Kate Clubnick in that amazing fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yard run at the end of the game, and you

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<v Speaker 1>couple that with the fact that they had to do

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<v Speaker 1>it that way because the offensive line was in shambles

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<v Speaker 1>from injuries, guys rotating it out. Antony Williams with a

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<v Speaker 1>big game, TJ. Parker with a monstrous game, but what

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<v Speaker 1>an effort at the end by Clubnick and the growth

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<v Speaker 1>of this quarterback continues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, just a very It was a design

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback draw and I got to get also give a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out, and I believe it was Trent Howard the

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<v Speaker 2>other day that said that at the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Linticum, he's the one who called the blocking scheme

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<v Speaker 2>that allowed Clubnick to get open. He saw something, he

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<v Speaker 2>changed it up at the last second before they snapped

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, and obviously it worked what he saw does

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<v Speaker 2>It allowed Kay to have a nice lane to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also shout out to TJ. Moore too, because

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<v Speaker 2>Cade talked about how you know he when cut when

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<v Speaker 2>he started to cut outside, he saw TJ. Moore had

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<v Speaker 2>taken the guy and taken him to the right and

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<v Speaker 2>up the field, which took him straight out to play.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great blockdown field by the freshman wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver that allowed Cad just have one guy to beat

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the safety, and he beat him and

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<v Speaker 2>screwed it up the sideline for the touchdown. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a cad made the play, but it was a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of other guys that helped him make the play

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<v Speaker 2>obviously at the same time. And they all made it

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<v Speaker 2>when they needed to the most. And John I said this,

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this a couple of times now. Clemson doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>win the Virginia Tech game last week, nor the Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>game last year. If this was last year's team, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't win either one of these games. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>a different team. It shows you how far they've come

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a lot of the same players that played

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<v Speaker 2>last year when they lost that MT State and they

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<v Speaker 2>played like that. He couldn't make a play when they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to when they lost at Miami and couldn't make

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<v Speaker 2>a play against the backup quarterback and backup running back,

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't make a play. Well this year, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play great in either one of those games, but

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<v Speaker 2>they found a way to win in the end, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's all that matters. But like you said, it shows

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<v Speaker 2>the progression of not only their young quarterback, but of

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<v Speaker 2>this team and this program as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It does show a lot of growth, will vanevert when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what they went through last year and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what they went through the last few

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<v Speaker 1>years with some of the adversity, and obviously last year

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<v Speaker 1>being the prime example of just self inflicted mistakes and

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<v Speaker 1>the inability to overcome. Like the NC State game comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind, we'll get your thoughts on an NC State

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<v Speaker 1>grad who had a moment on Sunday, Peyton Wilson. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you were front and center to see that here momentarily,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you look at the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean TJ. Parker Man, I'm just watching that game

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<v Speaker 1>and he is flashing everywhere. Four sacks, four and a

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<v Speaker 1>half tackles for loss, making some history there as a

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson pass rusher. I mean, you're in attendance for that game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be mind boggling to just watch what

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing there against a very sound unit in pit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I knew he had a great game because he

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<v Speaker 2>was like in the backfield the whole day and he

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<v Speaker 2>was making tackles and everything, and so I knew he

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<v Speaker 2>had a great game. I didn't realize he had a

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<v Speaker 2>record day you know what I'm saying until I read

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<v Speaker 2>my game notes, so I'm like, holy man, he had

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<v Speaker 2>a great He had a record game that game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because when he made the plays there at the end

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<v Speaker 2>that gave him that allowed him to tie the record

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<v Speaker 2>and set the record. You know, that was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was at the end of the game because people

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<v Speaker 2>weren't really talking about it because you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game, right so you know, so you

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't know that was going on because of what

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<v Speaker 2>was happening in a moment. And but what a great

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<v Speaker 2>game by him. He's been playing with Listen, TJ. Parker's

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<v Speaker 2>played well all year. He's just been getting double team

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<v Speaker 2>and I think what you saw the reason he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to play as well as he did. Now, Fifthburgh

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<v Speaker 2>had some injuries on the offensive line as well. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to understand that. But I think the growth of

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<v Speaker 2>kay Deenhoff and a growth of Jahine Lawson at d

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<v Speaker 2>event helped because they moved Peter Woods inside. He played

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent of that game at defensive tackle. And

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<v Speaker 2>those two ends really grew up and have grown up,

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<v Speaker 2>and they showed that in that game where they were

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<v Speaker 2>actually getting in the backfield themselves and Pittsburgh had to

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<v Speaker 2>adjust to that, and so it wasn't just chipping on

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<v Speaker 2>on on, you know, TJ. Park of the whole game

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. So that allowed him to be PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker and he you know, right now, he's second in

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC and sacks and he's second in the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>tackles were lost, and he's one of the best in

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<v Speaker 2>the country at getting to the quarterback. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to see that continue to be the case

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<v Speaker 2>because you're seeing growth of those other two defensive ends

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, and that's allowing you know, TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker to get to make some plays now where early

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<v Speaker 2>in the season he wasn't able to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>of how teams were defending him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Vandervoord, Clemson insider and also the host of the

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<v Speaker 1>Believe in Clemson Football podcast, is our guest here. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk Steelers with him in a minute. He's a Steeler fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>But Clemson moved up three spots in the College Football

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<v Speaker 1>playoff rankings. Uh, what's your take on that and what's

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<v Speaker 1>the path forward for Clemson as you understand it in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of ACC Championship possibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Clemson's only pack in the College Football

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<v Speaker 2>Playoff is to get into the AC championshgain win it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not. Clemson's not going to get in

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<v Speaker 2>that large bid. We know that by now. This is

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<v Speaker 2>it's heavily favored to the Big ten and SEC and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be this way for years to come,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why Clinton needs to leave the ACC because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not fair right now for if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>in those two conferences. With that said, though, just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this year in general, you know, right now, Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>the scenarios of this. You know, Miami will if they

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<v Speaker 2>lose one of these next two. It doesn't matter which one.

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson's in, m Okay, because Clemson's in the clubhouse. They finished.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're sitting in the eighteenth t eighteenth hole in

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<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse. They finished, you know why. You know, Miami

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and and them were on the seventeenth hole.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the clubhouse hoping for the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're on the seventeenth hole and then and

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<v Speaker 2>so the pressure is on those two teams to finish,

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<v Speaker 2>right because Clemson's in and Clinton knows where it's at.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know Miami if they lose one of these

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<v Speaker 2>next two games, Clemson's in and I want I'm interested

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<v Speaker 2>how Miami handles the pressure. I'll tell you this much, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad and say, now, okay, Clinton's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 2>Nation Championship game. And I'm so confident I'm gonna fill

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<v Speaker 2>out my credential for Nations Championship plone with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why Miami will lose one of these next

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<v Speaker 2>two games. Because the ball doesn't lie. And everybody who

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<v Speaker 2>knows ball knows Miami had no business winning that Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>Tech game that they were given that game. And everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who knows ball knows Miami has no business winning that

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<v Speaker 2>California game that they were given that game too. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a very good defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Syracuse game that that's the one I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the word friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm looking at too. I don't think Wake Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Force is gonna move the football on them

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<v Speaker 2>and score on them. But I don't think White Forest

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<v Speaker 2>can hang with them. Uh in a in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, shootout. Weird.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of weird things happen in Syracuse, says you

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<v Speaker 1>know that is an awkward place to play in. Fran

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's doing a hell of a job at the football team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good team, so you know, I think that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen. And you know it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>on the road. They're gonna be everybody's gonna be against them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I just and I just don't think ball lies.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it lies. And I think everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knows Crimson should be in that championship game and not Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody to a man knows that, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it will happen. Now Crimpson didn't mess up.

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<v Speaker 2>They had their own opportunities. Just you know, if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't mess up against Louisville, they're playing in the AC

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<v Speaker 2>championship game. So that is what it is. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>confident Miami's gonna lose because they don't deserve to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't. They're not the best team in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't care what anybody says that they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Their defense is not very good at all. I think

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<v Speaker 2>their defense is giving up Clo the forty points the

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<v Speaker 2>The other scenario is the you know, it's the less

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<v Speaker 2>likely of the ones. Now. If if SMU loses their

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<v Speaker 2>next two games, then Clemson's in there as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see SMU losing both of those games. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they could, you know, I mean, is a tough team.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Elliott has the opportunity to be the most cleansing

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he does. And it went surprised me to see

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia beat him because SMU has been flirting with disaster

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<v Speaker 2>don't see them lose. They're too consistent, you know, They've

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<v Speaker 2>been too consistent throughout the season where I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>them losing back to back games. But if they lose

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<v Speaker 2>to Virginia, Okay, now here's how Clemson can get in.

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<v Speaker 2>then Virginia next week beats Virginia Tech, there will be

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<v Speaker 2>a three way tie for first place in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami automatically goes Clemson goes over SMU because Clinton's would

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<v Speaker 2>have beaten a team with a better conference record in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how Clemson would get in over SMU. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's so there's two scenarios out there, or three scenarios.

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<v Speaker 2>One is more likely, that's Miami. The other two are

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<v Speaker 2>not as likely, but you got to follow it. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>my Steeler's gotten in the playoffs with less likely chances

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years, and so anything can happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Will Let's let's get some Steelers talk in here. The Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>they're in a pretty unique place as far as quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>play goes. Obviously, Russell Wilson with that deep moonball, it's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>but you've also got Russell or excuse me, you've also

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<v Speaker 3>got Justin Fields in there. I've heard chirp and chatter

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<v Speaker 3>through some of the people in Pittsburgh that cover this

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<v Speaker 3>team talking about Justin Fields down there in the red zone, dialing.

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<v Speaker 4>Up some packages for Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about that and utilizing him there

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<v Speaker 3>like not not just in the red zone. But we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of saw, you know, in Sunday's game against the

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens where he rushed for that to try and get

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<v Speaker 3>that first down. Obviously he slid a little early, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get the first down, but dialing up some packages for

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Fields, you got him, may as well use him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll remind you that Justin. The Steelers weren't very

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<v Speaker 2>good in the red zone with Justin Fields with the.

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<v Speaker 4>Quarterback right he did have his legs though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I hear it, I get it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're better with Russell Wilson in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go back to the last couple of games,

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<v Speaker 2>Who's throwing touchdown passes in the red zone? Idiot this game, No,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't give the Ravens credit for that. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens game, the Steelers up very well. But against Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>he you know, got red zone touchdowns. You know the

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<v Speaker 2>other two previous games that Justson the Giants, you got

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<v Speaker 2>redon touchdowns. I'm not worried. You don't need to you

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<v Speaker 2>need to use Justin Fields. I'm thinking packages out in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the field. But I think when the

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<v Speaker 2>field shrinks, you got to be able to throw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball accurately in the red zone when the field shrinks

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And and Justin Fields is not that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>not right now. And that was proven the first six

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<v Speaker 2>games of the season. And so you know, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>were not good at all in the red zone with

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields. So I say, don't worry about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Steelers are worried about that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think jumped in their head because one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons they liked they went out and got Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>was because Russell Wilson is very good in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty of these twenty six passes last year were in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone. I think he's already got three red

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<v Speaker 2>zone touchdown passes this year was with the Steelers. Did

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<v Speaker 2>he make a stupid mistake the other day? Absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 2>I was up there yelling at him more.

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<v Speaker 1>Than I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Washington goes up to that ball though he might.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he was being held too. But Russell

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<v Speaker 2>should have known the situation. You just keep the field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, throw it out of bounce out of the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the end to kick the field goal. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at that point the Steelers would have an

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<v Speaker 2>eleven point lead instead of a you know, an eight

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<v Speaker 2>point lead. Changed the whole dynamics of that game. If

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<v Speaker 2>he kicks the field goal there, So, you know, got

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<v Speaker 2>to be Russell's got to be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>smarter than that. I understand what he was trying to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't turn the football over there. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to get the point, especially in a game like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm find I like the way they did though,

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<v Speaker 2>Russell with with Justin Fields in the game, bringing them

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<v Speaker 2>in to run those plays and made the Ravens think.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved how Mike Tomlin did an okie dokee with

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<v Speaker 2>them when he came out with Justin Fields on to

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<v Speaker 2>that four on that third one, he came out with

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson, saw the defensive alignment and then says up

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<v Speaker 2>time out, We're gonna put out Justin back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And and even though they still ran Nasee on the play,

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<v Speaker 2>it made the Baltimore realize they had to pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to what Fields was doing and it totally changed their

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<v Speaker 2>whole scheme on what they were going to do. And

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<v Speaker 2>they had they couldn't call the time out there because

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<v Speaker 2>they would have burned their last time out, so they

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<v Speaker 2>had to go with what was on the field. And

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<v Speaker 2>so smart move by. That's why Mike Tomlin he's a

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<v Speaker 2>he's a great coach in those situations. Now when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the challenge flag, because there was one sack

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<v Speaker 2>on the play in that game that would have cost

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens would have got their field goal had Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Comlin thrown the challenge flag because he was down and

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting in the stadium might throw the flag, throw

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<v Speaker 2>the flag, you know, you know, but anyway, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a good, great coaching call. The little

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<v Speaker 2>Oki dokie did there to the hardball and it pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked out great, and Justin Field's made the great

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<v Speaker 2>right read and Nausey gets the first down and the

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<v Speaker 2>game's over and I was celebrating because you know why

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<v Speaker 2>they beat the Ravens, man, I hate the Ravens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was awesome. It was awesome to be in

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<v Speaker 2>that state. It was a great atmosphere, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like the playoff atmosphere. And the Steelers from

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, you know, about twenty minutes before the game starts,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting the crowd amped up, and they do it

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the entire game. I mean, it is. It is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best marketing things I've seen by any

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<v Speaker 2>game I've been to. And remember I've been to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of games, guys, as you know, covering Yep and

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<v Speaker 2>going to different NFL stadiums following the Steelers, and trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best marketing game I've ever seen. To keep

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd into the game the entire time where they're

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<v Speaker 2>just loud and bolsterous and making it really difficult for

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<v Speaker 4>How are you feeling about tomorrow Night's game?

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously coming off a short week, we just just played

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens. That's always taxing. They play, they play hard,

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<v Speaker 3>but it seems like, I think, what's the stat I

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<v Speaker 3>saw the last like six meetings with the Browns were

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<v Speaker 3>like one four and one. I believe you think that's

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<v Speaker 3>different this year with this offense. And obviously it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like this defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct that what you just said, not the last that's

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<v Speaker 2>at Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, well yeah, Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it's at Cleveland Bird, So there no time the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns are one four one overall against within any point

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<v Speaker 2>in life of my life. Well, yeah, we had to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that's corrected.

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<v Speaker 3>But definitely, this defense feels like it's playing on a

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<v Speaker 3>whole other level, even even above what we've we were

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<v Speaker 3>coming to expect coming into this season with this defense.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you feel about Mars game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's I'm not gonna lie to you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a trap game because you're playing the Steelers. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, they want to give another record to make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel good. The Steelers are ten and ten coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the playing the Ravens in a game. So there,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's not a good thing. Right Then, to make

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<v Speaker 2>it even worse, the Steelers are one in seven on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night football on the road, so uh and and

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<v Speaker 2>three of those losses are to Cleveland, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, So the numbers don't are not good,

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<v Speaker 2>but the good news is Cleveland's awful. Yeah, and Miles

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<v Speaker 2>Garret did not practice yesterday at a whole status is today,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did not practice yesterday. He's got some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hit pointer or something, they said. Even even if

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<v Speaker 2>he does play, he's probably not one hundred percent. So

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<v Speaker 2>that could bow well for for the Steelers in a Granted,

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers are banged up too because they just played

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens, you know, So you know it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see. I think the key tomorrow night for

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Tomorrow night against the Browns, they got to stop

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta start Nick Chubb. I think that they can

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<v Speaker 2>just slow him down and not let him be any

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<v Speaker 2>factor in the game. Then I think the Steelers will win.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he's going to be motivated in this

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<v Speaker 2>thing because this is the game he got hurt in

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and actually the last two times he's got

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<v Speaker 2>hurt has been against the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Henry is a good matchup going into it

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<v Speaker 3>like that was a good litmus test there, Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Right out of the gate and force. That was an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing way to start the game. So that helps.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's good to get Herbert back because he made

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<v Speaker 2>the fumble against them. So and also you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about like you know, we saw Herbert a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times get out of get out of his

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<v Speaker 2>runs run wanes and allowed he allowed uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Vick listen to me, uh Lamar Jackson to go to

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<v Speaker 2>go off to the hedge and get around them. So

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about that. With James Winston, Jamis

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<v Speaker 2>got to play the run. But you know, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>at times this year struggled against some teams you know,

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<v Speaker 2>run runs running backs and they have not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coming off only you know, three days rest, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not a full week. They just played a very physical

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<v Speaker 2>game against the Ravens. You know, it's it's a game.

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<v Speaker 2>But the good news I think, I think just that

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns just aren't very good overall on the defense

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<v Speaker 2>or on offense. Usually they're really good on offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not, I mean really good on defense. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>not good on defense this year, guys, they're not. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not playing well on defense at all. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you hope Pittsburgh could take advantage of that. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, here's a good number for you. Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>is three and oh against the Browns all time, including

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<v Speaker 2>a win at Cleveland last year's Nevers quarterback. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a good news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. One more question here. You might have answered

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<v Speaker 1>this already, but forgive me. How happy are you that

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Wilson is a Steeler? I mean, you covered the

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<v Speaker 1>ACC for a long time. Obviously NC stayed great, but

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<v Speaker 1>we saw what Peyton could do last year against Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>and what a play he made against Justice Hill on

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<v Speaker 1>that route.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they showed them on TV, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was after Renegade.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Renegade perfect. Yes, yeah, Renegade is for the can get

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<v Speaker 2>the big defensive stop and that was on that that

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<v Speaker 2>SI that was right after the interception that Russell Wilson threw.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they played renegade and then Lamar has that

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<v Speaker 2>long run getting in the midfield and then like two

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<v Speaker 2>plays later he throws the interception. Uh wow, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was after renegade. So it was a great play. Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson said, it was great that an NC State guy

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<v Speaker 2>had another guy back.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there you go, man, that's right right up

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<v Speaker 1>to the turnover. Well, Will, ye can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>you down there. And Clemson again this weekend they take

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<v Speaker 1>on Citadel and then you got uh South Carolina. Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>of course coming up a week and a half from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is always the host of Believe in Clemson Football podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>huge Steeler fan, and with the Clemson Insider, it's Will

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderford chronicling his yins are doubleheader this past weekend. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you enjoyed it, Bud real fast.

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<v Speaker 2>For those people out there, because I know you've got

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<v Speaker 2>some Game Cup fans too that listen. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>called the Palmetto ball, so don't call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>Duly noted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't play into the stupid marketing there. Okay, it is

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<v Speaker 2>not the Palmetto Balls, Carolina Carolina or Carolina Clipson. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all it needs to be called. Don't call it anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a great matchup this year, t this time around noon kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you out there, will.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Man, talk to you guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There it goes.
