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Speaker 1: Welcome in.
Speaker 3: The five foot, nine hundred and eighty six pounder out
of Mapleton, Utah was a all stater in three sports
here in the great state of Utah back in I
want to.
Speaker 1: Say, was I want to say?
Speaker 4: Was it? Was it?
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: Now he's the head coach for the Snow College Badgers
balling out down in e from Utah.
Speaker 1: Let's welcome in the one the only Zach Erickson to
the show.
Speaker 5: Was up, Zach, hey Ben, you must you must have
some really good producers pulling up all that info for you.
I mean, I know you know me well, but that
was pretty specific.
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I know you're an all state long jumper
and track and field. You're an all state baseball player
and an all state football player.
Speaker 4: I know this.
Speaker 3: I've done my due diligence on my teammates.
Speaker 1: I know how good you were.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, Zach. It's great to have you on
talk some ball with you.
Speaker 3: Give us a little update on Snow College, kind of
level set force the state of the program down in Ephram.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're really excited. You know, we were coming off
of probably our first what I would call mediocre year.
You know, we went six and five, ended up losing
in a bowl game. But we're super excited about what's
happening with the future of the program. Since I got
here in twenty nineteen as an assistant, we've been competing
as an independent with the disillusion of the Arizona Junior
College football programs, and that is coming to an end.
Of this We've joined the Southwest Junior College Football Conference,
which will take us down to play with six teams
in Texas and then rejoin us with new Mexico Military again.
So we're super excited to be back into a conference
be able to compete not only for national championships, with
conference championships, and to be able to do it with
with you know what I would argue is probably gonna
be the best junior college football conference top to bottom
that there is in the country. I mean, we know that.
You know, Iowa Western is Iowa Western. They've got three
teams in a conference. We know Hutch is Hutch very
top heavy. But from top to bottom, you look at
you know Tyler who went eleven and zero this year
and beat us and lost in the national semi finals.
Navarro is always good. You have Blynn where Cam Newton
played in won a national championship. You've got New Mexico
Military who's won a national championship in the last handful
of years. And so I think it's gonna be one
of the best conferences in the country, and we're really
excited to get out there and start competing with some
of the best teams in the country.
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, it is. It is a robust conference. There.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Arizona junior colleges. Do you think they
ever come back from the dead?
Speaker 1: Do you think the.
Speaker 3: Western States Football League day, both you and I competed
in by the way.
Speaker 1: I was at Easter and Glendale.
Speaker 3: You were at Dixie balling out for the ReBs once
upon a time. But do you think it comes back
from the dead at all?
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because you get these you know,
you get these factions that really are pushing for it
from everything that we've heard and everything that we've kind
of been involved with. Because I would be a huge
component of it. Please bring them back. Yeah, but I
just I don't think where they are right now, that's
going to happen anytime in the near future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I still keep in contact with my head coach at
Glendoe Community College. He was He was a tremendous coach
and we had tremendous football players come through that conference
for many years. Rix and Snow and Glendale and Dixie.
So many great football team, so many great football players
and great coaches that went through those those programs as well.
We got Zach Erickson, head coach of the Snow College Badgers.
You're on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Let's talk a
little bit about Snow College. Here how many guys did
you produce put into Division one or D two this season?
Speaker 5: This season we ended up with twelve guys signing out
the Division one schools. Probably the headliner in that group
would have been to Kope Wallace are starting left tackle.
He narrowed it down between Mississippi State and UTSA. Actually,
and in this world of nil and money UTSA, you
know that Texas money showed up and ended up going
to UTSA, we probably would expect to see him competing
for a starting spot down there right away. Kept a
lot of kids in state. You know, Tayson Reid, our
starting middle linebacker, signed up at the University of Utah
Weaver State. When they got their staff together. You know,
former assistant of mine, Tanner Jacobson snuck down here and
stole our starting safety and starting running back. I say stole,
I say stole, but I mean good for them, And
so they're up at we were now we had two
tight ends get out, one going to San Diego State,
another one going to Central Michigan. So it was a
really good year for us. I mean we we normally
you know, this is probably the lower end of the
number that we usually put out in a year. Where
we had twelve. Normally we're kind of in the sixteen
to eighteen range, but we were pretty young last year.
You know, three of our five starting old linemen are
coming back. You know, we've got some guys in the
secondary that are coming back. So we were really young.
We had a lot of freshmen playing for us, so
we would like to see that number kind of jump
back up into the high teens even low twenties. But
we have a great income a recruiting class. I think
we did. I think our staff did a heck of
a job in the state of Utah. If you look
through who we signed. I mean we signed thirty nine
of our forty eight incoming players are from the state
of Utah, which which I think is amazing. I mean,
we're building this thing from the inside out, and so
we're excited to see what some of those guys can do,
as they're going to be asked to probably play right
away and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were a ton of players too in
college football that were playing at high level institutions. Kiante
Scott was at Miami. They're starting Nickel. He had a
great season. I mean, whoether what other guys from the
Snow College alumni ended up playing some big time football
this season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think Keyante is probably the most visible,
and obviously he had a fantastic season making it all
the way to national championship. I know, you know Isaiah
Jadas somebody who our viewers will be you know, really
familiar with, uh starting left tackle there at BUYU this
last fall. Dallan Bentley starting tight end at University of
Utah who had a fantastic year. I think he was
in that top five of top graded tight ends right
there behind our tight end from from the coops this year.
Carson Carson's that name, Ryan, Yeah, who was number one.
And so you know, those three guys were probably the
top guys that performed this year. You know, Seth Wilfrid
was the number two tackle at Auburn still this fall.
You know, we had a handful of guys playing up there,
seeing a lot of time for coach Menden Hall up
at Utah State, and so you know, it.
Speaker 4: Was it was.
Speaker 5: It's been a good it has had a good showing
of former Snow College Badgers. I mean Garrett Bowles was
playing well and and you know probably had the best
season of his NFL career, you know, and so it's
good to see the Badger alumni performing well once they
leave Snow College.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Buy you mentioned Isaiah Johna. There's a few other guys
that are from uh, from Snow JT.
Speaker 5: I can't forget JT. I mean, you know John.
Speaker 1: This year he was great. John Tell.
Speaker 3: He was like a little silver back guerrilla man. He
kind of reminded me of Travis tweet Loma back in
his prime.
Speaker 1: He was looking great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, exactly. So yeah, good see. You know, I
got to I can't remember who we were playing. I
got to sneak down there on the field in pregame
and it was great to get to see. You know,
we had those four guys. We had Reggie, Jada, j T,
and Ethan Wood that you know my staff while I've
been here, we all recruited those four guys in here.
They all got to play for me. So, uh, it's
great to have a good relationship with those guys and
still be able to get out there and see them, uh,
you know, achieving their dreams and doing what they want
to do, whether whether or not it started how they
wanted it to start. They put the work in to
get to where they want to be, and we just
love seeing them achieve their dreams and be able to
move on and be able to play high level football,
especially when it's in provo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, b Y, you just picked up another snow College
Badger for the twenty twenty sixth class. Raydon Heinz long snapper.
Came down and saw what they liked. Justin Enna, it
sounds like needed a long snapper to replace Garrison Grimes.
Who's Raydon Heinz And why did b Why you come calling?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rado was really good for us as we go
through and we kind of you know, when you do
your film study and you go and you are doing
self scout and all of these things. One thing has
really jumped out with us is that Redo didn't have
a bad snap all season. He handled both the long
snaps and the short snaps on pat field goal and
did not have a single bad snap. He's also a really,
really good athlete. He he came and wanted to play linebacker,
and as we kind of toyed with that, we identified
him as our best long snapper probably pretty early. But
he's He's the type of athlete that you could put
out there and play in a different position, and so
having that athleticism and the guy that's gonna be able
to snap the ball and then run down and hopefully
make a tackle something that Cougar fans should be excited
about because I think given you know, the right opportunity
and for him to be able to go in and compete,
I think he can win the job because A he's
a great long snapper, short snapper, and b he's a
really good athlete that just adds to that special teams
unit being able to do, you know, some of those
other things as opposed to somebody who may not be
as athletic running down the field. So we're excited to
get Rado up there and then see what he can do.
Speaker 3: So interesting hometown is Brighton, Colorado High School American Leadership
Academy in Queen Creek. Did he did he move to
Arizona at a high school? Like, give me a little
bit more detail on the six foot ye two pound
or out of American Leadership Academy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sour, Our whole contact with Rado came while he
was in Arizona. So that's funny because I would have
thought he was from Arizona. I didn't even know him
hometown on Colorado. Every yeah, everything that we you know,
I believe that he spent all of his high school
there in Arizona, down there at a LA And you know,
obviously we have a good connection with former teammates down
there or that had been there previously, and so usually
when they have guys that they think can play at
a high level, they they'll give us a call and
it's worked out pretty well, especially for Rado in this instance.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other thing that stands out to be about number
forty eight Raydon Hinz. Like I grew up in a
generation of of you know, the traditional video games and
the arcade video games, Mortal Kombat. I've never seen anyone
named Raydon before. I'll be honest, I never This is
my first time I've seen Braydon. I'm like, you know
what I mean, the electrocuting, you know, hat wearing, I
don't know, jiu jitsu, karate master, Raydon.
Speaker 5: I love it. I'll have to ask him. You'll have
to ask you whoever talks to him next.
Speaker 1: Like dad was dad of video Gamer. He's like, I
love Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 4: Finish him.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: I mean like, or is this like a familial name?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know if it's a familial name or what I'm
gonna go with you. I think I like I like
the Mortal Kombat reference. I think that's what we'll go with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it too.
Speaker 3: Man, what combat that may be banned you know, that
may be banned of the day tomorrow. In fact, they're
gonna have that as our intro theme tomorrow. Zach Erickson,
head coach, Snow College. You guys are always putting out
great great great football right, great football team, great football players.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a tryout.
Speaker 3: I believe you guys have a lot of people like
trying out for college football right now.
Speaker 1: Snow college football. It's been pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: Explain the impact of nil transfer portal on the JUCO
ranks right now and the quality of player you're getting.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I think what you've seen is especially at the
high level power for schools, they just aren't really recruiting
high school athletes like they used to. And I mean
I was even listening to Bronco on his signing the
press conference, and I think they told me that. I
think if I remember, right, they only signed four high
school players in this entire class, and so that's kind
of I think what we're seeing with the current landscape
of college football. And so I think what that's done
is that's allowed us at the junior college level to
really get in and recruit high school players that formerly
probably would have been going to these divisions in schools.
Because now I see us where we used to have
one or two recruiting battles with maybe the FCS school
in state, over the last couple of years, almost every
kid we're identifying and wanting to recruit, we're having to
beat out Utah Tech, SUU Weaver in an effort to
try to get those kids. And sometimes that works in
our favor and sometimes it doesn't. But where you know,
the FCS schools can kind of break up their scholarships,
sometimes we might be in a position to give the
kids a better scholarship than they can at the SCS
school and sometimes when that comes into play, that really
can help us, you know, win on a kid. But
ultimately what that means is there's I think there's hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of high school kids that aren't
getting recruited that should be. And so while we can't
see everyone in a single cycle, we try our best.
But we feel it's hugely important for the success of
our program to be able to have these tryouts because
there might be some kids that didn't you know, maybe
they grew on a mission, or they were a late bloomer,
or who knows. I mean, perfect example of that is
Dallon Bentley. Dallon Bentley showed up here coming out of
Taylorsville High School, goes on a mission, wasn't a great
football player coming out of high school, shows up to
our January tryout. He grew four and a half inches
on his mission, gained thirty pounds, gained another twenty five
pounds in the off season, and became a six foot six,
two hundred and sixty pound tight end that every school
in the country wanted. And so I think it's usually
important for us to have those tryouts. And so you know,
we had one here in January, and that one is
usually just for kids that are enrolled in school, and
then we'll have another one, usually the Monday before the
fourth of July. So usually right there at the beginning
of July, we'll have that open tryout and ever since
I've been here, we've had anywhere from one hundred to
one hundred and fifty kids show up to the tryout.
And again that's just a testament to these kids that
are are getting under recruited or not recruited at all,
that you know, maybe have a future in college football.
And so we love being able to get them out
and if they're good enough, if they are you know,
or if we have a need. Uh, it's good to
be able to get those guys out here and hopefully
see what they can do and add to our program.
Speaker 1: You got a JV squad you're cooking up down there
because of all the.
Speaker 4: Guys we do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just finished up our second year of
JV football. Funny story, we had a running back uh
this last year Kennon Boswell played a little bit of
varsity football for us, but was our starting JV running back.
Got a scholarship the Southwest Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And and so that's just another way for us to
continue to get opportunities for these guys.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: And in two years that jam team has gone what
are they eleven and one? And so they're they're still
really really good and we've had some guys that started
on the JV program that obviously moved up and became
starters for us the next year, and we're looking to
do that again this year. We'll have that JB squad
and they'll play six games again this year and another
just trying to fill a need, right as you and
I know, I mean, kids love football and they want
to play football, and if we can provide that opportunity
for them, then we want to be able to do
that as best we can.
Speaker 3: How many scholarships annually do you have allocated in your
budget for these football players?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, so we have seventy scholarships. It's pretty easy
for us to kind of be fully transparent about that.
So our scholarships down here at SNOW cover all of
your tuition and all of your core class books, and
then that total number is seventy and then it gets
broken up. We have thirty five in state scholarships. We
have twenty five what they call WUI scholarships, which is
the Western Education Exchange the Western United States, So that's
pretty much any state that touches us to the east,
and then anything west of US, including the Dakotas, and
so we have twenty five of those scholarships, and then
we have ten what we call true out of state scholarships,
which is pretty much anything east of like New Mexico, Colorado,
anything that's that way. We have ten of those scholarships. So,
you know, like I said, we want to build our
team from the inside out. We think there's great high
school football here in the state of Utah, and as
we are able to kind of compete for those kids,
and you know, we have we call it our housing
money pot right where you know, if kids are a
deserving or in need, we can also in some cases
help out with housing and try to help them as
best we can in their attempts to be a good
What term we don't hear very much anymore is student
athlete because down here that's still kind of what we're about,
is being a good and successful student athlete and then
being able to get them to get their education taken
care of and be able to move on and hopefully
be able to develop into good husbands, good fathers, good
young men, young people that can go out and be
productive in society. Because as you and I know, it's
way different from when you and I stepped foot in
the locker room twenty years ago to what it is now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's truly it's truly changed, right, And and for
some things, I think it's for the better. Some things
maybe not for the better, right, And you know, you
try to navigate it all and trying to set these
kids up for success long term rather than just short term.
Speaker 5: Right exactly. And that's you know, that's kind of what
we're looking at is hopefully when the kids come here,
you know, and we've talked about this before, you know,
when I've been on we have kind of two kinds
of kids that come here, Kids that don't qualify and
they have to go to Junco route or their recruiting
wasn't what they wanted it to be, and so they
chose to come this way. And so we've really got
to build long term vision.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: We've spent a lot of time in this offseason, uh,
talking about goal setting and teaching these young men how
to set goals and the process of achieving those goals
and how that can really help them long term. And
so you know, it's just really exciting to be able
to get to work with those kids and and and
these are guys that still love football, right, they're they're
not getting paid, they don't got some big nil deal.
They're here because they love it. They're here because they
want to work. And you know, and we're super excited
about that. We've got I Before I you know, you
kick me off, I got to put a little plug
in for one of our players. So a lot of
your listeners will probably recognize this name. Uh Mode Taime
Longa from tim View a couple of classes ago, ended
up having some clearing house issues. Uh. You know, he
came over from Tongo when he was a freshman to
Timbu and and b Yu didn't catch it till he
was you know, only had like two months left on
his mission, and so he ended up ultimately being a
non qualifier. Uh. And he showed up here and and
this kid, Ben, I've had some really good football players
down here. This kid might be the best I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And I am hoping and praying. And what's awesome about
this kid is forget the forgets the football talent and
that type of stuff. The leadership that he has brought
to our football team over the last two months that
he's been here. He got home in late July from
his mission in Florida and then has been here. Uh
he got here in January, and the leadership that this
kid brings. He stepped foot on campus and it was like,
oh my gosh. And so here's what I'm saying. I
really hope we can get him back to BYU. But
I but as you as you know, there might be
a certain staff that is now in the Upper Midwest
that has already called and ready to you know, try
to get him to go wear yellow, blue and yellow
instead of blue and white. You know, Coach Frank Miley
showed up here offered him on the spot. You know,
he's gonna he's going to blow up and I think
he could be the defensive player of the Year this year.
But again, just the different type of people that are here,
it's just such an awesome thing because they love it.
They they love what they're trying to accomplish, and for them,
they still have these big dreams and these big goals
that hopefully, in some form or fashion, we can be
a small part in helping them achieve in their time
here at Snow College.
Speaker 3: Last thing, Zach, appreciate you hopping on Reggie frishnett ethan
Wood still on the roster officer. We're gonna be looking
at raid and Ayden could be the starting long snapper
for BAU this next season. What are your expectations for
Reggie and Ethan this year? Do you think they can
play a big role in ba's offense.
Speaker 5: You know, I really do. I know that in talking
to Ethan, Ethan's now back to being fully healthy, and
Ethan is a special athlete with his size and his strength.
I would I would really hope that Ethan gets an
opportunity throughout springball UH to be the guy that replaces Ryan.
I think I think he has the skill set. I
think he has the ability. I know he has the
work ethic. So I'm really excited to see what Ethan
can do this year. Reggie, I mean, I I may
be biased, but but I think Reggie will be one
of the starting three receivers come fall. I think I
think Reggie is I think you know, when he came
into camp and and had the hamstring injury early, I
think that kind of set him back a little bit.
But I think, you know, we saw him progress and
develop throughout the year. You know that changed a little bit.
I don't know if you know this. In the Bowl game,
Reggie came down and made a block on an outside linebacker,
broke his jaw and played the rest of the game
with a broken jaw. He had surgery the next day.
And that's the kind of that's the kind of toughness
that like. Reggie is a tough kid. And you couple
that with the athleticism that he has. If he stays healthy, right,
if he doesn't tweak a hamstring or break a jaw,
I think what we'll what we'll see out of him
in the spring is gonna be I mean, the way
Reggie works, he's gonna make it really hard on festis
to not put him on the field. And that's all
you can hope out of a player, right is as
a coach. As a coach, you say, make me keep
you on the field, right, And I think I think
we're gonna see that out of Reggie. His catch radius
is insane. I know, we you know, we didn't get
many balls thrown to him this year. I think he
only had one catch actually, of the one ball that
was thrown to him. But I think once he gets
an opportunity to get some more balls coming his way,
we'll see that his natural catching ability is pretty dang good.
And we know how good Chase was, and I'm not
I'm not ready to say that he's on that level,
but I truly believe that that's his projection. Right if I
was to say, you know, this kid can be a
lot like so and So, I mean, he had a
great role model this last year of what that looks like.
And I know, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's
a little bit taller than Chase. I think he is
maybe a little faster than Chase. I'm not exactly sure,
but I just think I think Reggie has a huge,
huge future in front of him as a BYU Cougar.
So I'm really excited love.
Speaker 1: Chat and ball with you.
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a former boy wide receiver, talks on ball with us today. Jared,
how there are you, buddy?
Speaker 4: What's up? Ben? Doing great?
Speaker 1: Live in the dream man. Let's start off with this.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, from an eligibility standpoint, there's a USC
linebacker that just got his ninth year of eligibility back,
sell them on to leave at Oh no, he's at Montana.
So yeah, he's a former USC linebacker now at Montana.
Speaker 1: He's got like five medical red shirts.
Speaker 3: You wonder, it's like, Okay, if this guy is getting eligibility,
there's got to be a former BYU Cougar that has
some eligibility remaining that could come back to Provo if
they need him.
Speaker 6: There should be yeah, and there may be. Yeah, we'll
have to see what happens. But yeah, it's it's crazy.
It's crazy to think that you you you've got that
that that much time in college football. But yeah, and
and and yet they denied Hinckley rebody, you know, So
it just makes you wonder, you know, maybe he knows
somebody that that Hinckley didn't know, you know, up in
the in the offices of the n cul A and
whoever's making those decisions. But yeah, it's crazy to think
that you're you've been with in college football for the
Trevor Lawrence graduated and went into the graduate high school
and was in the class that he was in going
into college.
Speaker 4: What did that take you back?
Speaker 1: Not only that, what's crazy is course and pact?
Speaker 4: Uh right? It was?
Speaker 1: It was It was it cursion anyway.
Speaker 3: You know, you have these situations where it's like they're
they're student athletes, but they're not even.
Speaker 6: Going to school right right right, they're not. So it
makes me wonder what are the requirements now? Because you know,
I was deemed ineligible at one point going at at
Saddleback Junior College because I was missing three credit hours.
Three credit hours I was missing and I already had
my my my associate's degree, everything done, and they deemed
me ineligible based off off three credit hours. So it
makes you wonder what those stipulations are like you're if
you don't have to go to class.
Speaker 4: You don't have to, but you don't.
Speaker 6: You have to, don't You have to enroll in a
certain you'd be a full time student in order to
play football in college?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought Carson Beck went to Georgia, completed his
undergraduate degree like two years ago, goes to Miami.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: He has not gone to class in two years. He
said that in his press conference. I think up to
the National championship game. I don't know if you saw this. Yeah,
he says, I haven't even gone to class in the
last two years.
Speaker 1: Is he enrolled? I have no idea. I have no idea,
but he you know, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4: You know. So it's like the wild Wild West.
Speaker 6: You do what you want and as long as everybody
is okay with it and nobody's turning you in for
something you're.
Speaker 3: I guess you can do like underwater basket weaving. You
can just be enrolled, but you're not going to class
because they're all electives.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter if you fail it, right, as
long as you're enrolled and you paid your tuition. We
had to have a certain GPA, didn't.
Speaker 3: We You haven't otherwise, Yeah, was educating and administrative when
it meant something. There was a graduation rate. Uh, there
was definitely some certain standards, et cetera. So we gotta
have some standards here, right, But at the same time,
I wish we could have taken advantage of you get
your juco eligibility back, I get my jubility back. I
was telling you know, you guys offline, I'm like, wait
a second. I could have played in eight and nine.
I could have been the winningest defensive back in BUA
football history.
Speaker 1: And in the n C Double A.
Speaker 3: They stole it from me, right, they stole it from me.
I was proud of being a part of the n
C Double A whatever. Not today I am not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well today I am.
Speaker 6: I would have loved to have those years back because
my meeting with coach Chow would have been a whole
different meeting.
Speaker 4: When he when he realized only had two to play two,
I was I was not on his top. If you
had three to play two, if you could red shirt
this year, you'd be in a good spot. But apparently
it didn't work out. My favorite on that one.
Speaker 3: But spring balls around the corner though. Storylines heading into
Spring ball, would you say, what are you looking at?
Speaker 1: What are you evaluating? What are you intrigued by?
Speaker 6: So I was able to meet Kyler Casper. Oh yeah, yeah,
he got his car in and we tinted his truck.
You got a new truck. And so I asked him,
you know, he's coming from one of the best programs
in college football coming through Oregon and and uh, I
it's asked him, what's the difference like when you've you've
got here BYU the amount of guys that has stayed
and didn't transfer.
Speaker 4: So what is that like?
Speaker 6: He said, You know, the crazy part is we were
in the playoffs and we had twenty guys in the
portal already.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, he said, So you come here and.
Speaker 6: You've got all these guys that could have left or
could have done something else, could have gone to the
to the NFL, or or even transferred out for more
money maybe, and they all want to stay. He said,
he feels it from from the get go. He felt
the difference, and he said, it's something special with the team.
Speaker 4: I tell you what.
Speaker 6: This guy though, I uh, he's a big body. I
think he is an aggressive I talked to him a
little bit about his style of play and and having
some more aggressive wide receivers out there that are just
physical and I think he's going to bring that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: So it was fun to talk with him. And I
will say though he did show up and and his
keychain was from Oregon.
Speaker 4: I had a real problem with that.
Speaker 6: So I made some phone calls and some text messages
out I did to the equipment manager. I said, we
need to replace this. I even take Klawney at text
and I said, look, you a rod got one too.
Speaker 4: This is our guy. He needs a new keychain. Somebody
needs to step out and get him a new keychain.
Speaker 1: And get this freaking organ.
Speaker 4: Yellow made some choice words when I held it up
to him.
Speaker 5: What is what?
Speaker 3: Get this out of here? It is Hopefully he's repented. Yea,
he's he's uh, he's switched it out.
Speaker 6: Because he's like a real solid dude. I'm excited to
see what his.
Speaker 1: Come from lineage.
Speaker 3: His dad was a fantastic football player in the National
Football League, played with the Broncos Ed McCaffery there there
was a day, had a kind of a really good
crew there in Denver.
Speaker 1: A good football player.
Speaker 3: Comes from good stock, so there's a reason why he
was a four star out of high school and you
wonder it's like, hey, if you would depress him, like, hey,
why why weren't you able to maybe get into the rotation?
Speaker 1: What limited you? What? Why didn't they give you an opportunity?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good questions. Yeah, maybe I should ask it.
Speaker 3: Come on, that would have been the right question. Why
why why why didn't you get any pt No, he did.
He played special teams and he got separate perceptions. But
like obviously, I'm sure you wanted to know about him
in high school and you know, he had so many offers,
just couldn't get him. Look, I love his bounce back.
Puka was a bounce back essentially. He was at Washington,
came into b y U. Samson was that Utah came
into b yu. We want Pooka floated into that ISSUV.
You want to make sure Pooka. Someone's gonna reach out
to pook Like, hey man, you want to be in
the limelight, but not this type of limelight, you know. Yeah, yeah, anyway, great,
but at any rate, we want these guys and hopefully
we can highlight them and hopefully they ball out. Yeah,
the wide receiver when we're still trying to figure out
he's his PK the wide receiver one very well could be.
Speaker 1: But who's who's going to be the top three? Who's
going to be the top four? Right now?
Speaker 3: Mike Guy, Zach Erickson, who we chatted with early in
the show. He says, Reggie's going to be in the
top three. Reggie Fish Connect.
Speaker 6: Reggie the baller. Yeah, I love Zach. That's a good deal.
I ended up wakesurfing with that dude.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, Zach, we love that. Yeah, he's my teammate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, great guy runs a great program. Yes he does,
I mean amazing.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think Reggie's going to do well too.
I Reggie's got size, you know, And once they started
getting in the game, you know, I think he's gonna
do well. Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun to just
see these guys now where it's a little more open.
Chase is gone there, there's some more competitive juice going
in to see who's really gonna take those spots, and
it is kind of open the two, three, and four,
it's like who who who is gonna be there? There's
probably six guys that have an opportunity to get that rotation.
So let's see who can do it. You know, I'm
interested to see. Also, as A Rod was talking a
little bit about the running back kid out of Lee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been impressing in the off season.
Speaker 6: Right And and usually we've we've known and as I've
known a Rod for for as long as I have,
he he's not quick to put names out there.
Speaker 1: He's not not quick to get veryant.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so he did it with Bear last year,
right And I mean from almost from the get go,
this guy's you know, the intelligent and and and he
backed it hundred percent of Bear backed it up as well.
Speaker 4: So if he's already talking like that, this this.
Speaker 6: Could be you know, a one two three punch with
and ljuh and it could be a lot of fun
to watch.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you some insight from the off season training.
This may intrigue you. Everyone wants to.
Speaker 3: Know who's the fast who are the fastest guys on
the team? Right, Sure, everyone wants to know, Hey, who's
the fastest guys? So I got I got your top
ten here, at least their top end speed. I won't
tell you what the the mphs are, but like this
is the this is the fastest guy. Who do you
think the fastest guy in the team is. Who do
you think the fastest guy in the team is?
Speaker 4: It would either be Parker or or well, I don't
know who is at top speed.
Speaker 3: Top top top end speed. Who's got the fastest top
end speedy?
Speaker 1: Cody?
Speaker 3: Cody's up there, Cody's up He's fast, but he's also
remember he got a little Remember Cody got a little
bit deemed up, which is a different than a forty right,
because you're yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like, this
is like top end speed.
Speaker 4: The fastest, right fast, got the longest stride, you know
what I mean? And uh and so.
Speaker 3: This is the entire team. This is an entire team,
all right. So fastest guy on the team is Evan Johnson,
Evan second fastest. I mean, look, and this is you know,
like I said, fastest is like is it in the
twenties and the forties?
Speaker 1: This is like top end speed.
Speaker 3: Kevin Doe the project out of the East East uh
East High School. Will played basketball and was a converted
football player. He's been a defensive back. Yeah and uh
and has he's seen playing time as a special telayer.
Speaker 4: He didn't play in high school? Is that the story?
Speaker 1: He didn't really play. I think he played one year
of high school football.
Speaker 3: This was a This was a guy that FESSEI I
think evaluated and brought him in and then I think
Jay Hill signed off on it.
Speaker 1: And obviously he's been a defensive back and he's played
a little bit.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Number three, my guy Joe Douglas. Now not many people
know about Joe. You will park area right, So he
was running, he played high schoo football. But whose tight
ends d end right? Really linear kid ends up coming
off of his mission and he's he's running sprints and
maybe gonna potentially do the the Catholic modeling. Yeah, he's
a model there. Like he's like, keep your aud the ladies.
The ladies love this guy. I tell Job I stay
away from the ladies for now. Like let's make sure
you get into the rotation, get into specialty. Anyway, So
Joe third fastest, but he you know, he's playing playing safety.
Speaker 1: Made the team.
Speaker 3: He was he was at Utah State last year running track,
tried out, made it as a walk on, and he's
been playing free safety. You know, still has a ways
to go, but he's he's super fast and explosively probably
pound for pound.
Speaker 1: Also the strongest guy.
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like Max Tuley, you know Max similar, Yeah,
like Max. They did move Max to free safety for
a spring ball because they're like, maybe we could use
this speed. I don't know if you remember the u
U s F game at USF where Max Tuley was
like tracking down from the opposite side of the field. Anyway,
he's kind of like Max Parker Kingston number four, Jordan
Chris cornerback number five, Tommy Prass's number six, Crew Clark Shotton,
Crew Clark, the Idaho transfer at number seven, Canada Brees eight,
Logan Payne nine, Raider de Moony ten, Kyler Casper eleven,
will Zundell twelve, and then Trey Alexander thirteen, Joe Vessa's
right there, Jared esplind wide receivers there followed Tels out
to wallet top fifteen.
Speaker 1: So those are you.
Speaker 3: That's like your top fifteen top end speed guy. Sure,
I thought that was interesting. Anything stand out to you,
anything surprised you?
Speaker 4: I don't know if it surprised me. I think top
end speed is one thing. It's not a football metric really, Yeah,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like there's Sti's so many guys that are you know,
one of those guys that maybe I clocked a four
five nine one, so I can say I'm a four
or five guy. But but in reality, you know, it
was all about getting in the space where you need
to be, and it's not about full speed all the time,
you know. And and so I think that it's it's
great to have some just some lightning speed guys, but
really for me and football, it's the first three steps, right,
So I tell everybody, there's one dude I played football
with that had that zero to one hundred and three
steps it was almost two steps.
Speaker 4: Is Ronnie Jenkins.
Speaker 6: There was nobody. I mean that guy saw a hole,
would cut in two steps. Yeah, he's full speed and
at one point he was clocked at a four to
one six at b YU. I mean, just just insane.
Great dude, Love Ronnie, but yeah, fastest guy I ever
played with.
Speaker 3: Then the next tier of guys though, could get you excited.
Trey Roberts wide receiver, obviously, Chase Roberts, brother fuller shirts punter,
Holy cow, katou La Lave's right there.
Speaker 4: L J.
Speaker 1: Morten's right there.
Speaker 3: Charles Miska running backs there and then Walker Lions and
Roger Sally.
Speaker 4: His shirts to was the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the back of Butcher, the one that dropped
the ball.
Speaker 4: Why why come on, hey, hey babe man bring that up?
Speaker 1: He had he had one.
Speaker 4: The best thing about that. I don't know if I
told you.
Speaker 3: By the way, Jared Bloodsoe former punter at Ricks so
he do it all wide receiver butter So.
Speaker 6: After that that game, we took our our players to
the to the practice one day and as soon as
he walked in the field, guess who I saw in
the jugs machine.
Speaker 4: Was taking jugs balls just like.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was that he dropped it. He
like just he he well, he dropped it in front
of himself, but he didn't swing his leg. It was
it wasn't it didn't look like he fielded it. It
wasn't a relation where that ball was about to be kicked.
It went out of his hands before he his arm
kind of just it was.
Speaker 4: It was really odd. But he's fast, so it sounds
like we should brust some pig punts.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just let's go, hey, Justin and let's dial
it in. Uh, Let's let's go justin.
Speaker 3: I mean K pop has done a really good job
with some of his fakes. I know there was a
controversial one this last year is versus Tech though, and
like we're like, we can't.
Speaker 1: Even move the damn ball anymore and.
Speaker 6: You relying on your Australian puncher to throat come on,
you know, yeah, not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Not not very good.
Speaker 3: Interested in the short side of the field anyway, they
were trying to get something, Yeah, yeah, you know pole.
I was hoping they pull out the old uh you know,
the Tyler baddie Tyler baddie. Uh, you know, delay release,
you know, with the personal protector. Just run them right
up the middle. See if you can get somebody wide
open up the middle. Anyway, But you know, Spring balls
around the corner. Very excited about it and I can't
wait to see what cam Klani looks like. In two
thousand and one of the things that was interesting, Brady
Papinga brought this up. So Brady said that he's intrigued
to see how they operate. Spring will be a traditional
competitive environment or will be like an Ota NFL type
of thing, where like there's.
Speaker 1: Not much competition because you don't want to lose guys.
Speaker 3: There's not much competition because you don't want to necessarily
get guys injured. It becomes a traditional ota you know
very much, thud very much, speed work, very much like
technique work.
Speaker 1: And then you get into fall camp.
Speaker 3: Because they had a they had some attrition last spring
along their defensive line because they went after it a
little bit. They were it was kind of like a
refining fire. Uh, and some guys left after spring ball.
Speaker 4: Anyway, But I think they have to be competitive unless
it's a group.
Speaker 6: If you know all your starters already, you know who's
already going to be going, then I see the point
in doing that.
Speaker 4: And maybe some groups do that more than others.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that's what they're going to do.
Is just he he brought it up. I was like, Oh,
that's intriguing. Is it going to be more of like
an NFL style or will be a traditional college competitive style.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it needs to be competitive for a lot
of the position groups in order to really show who's.
Speaker 4: Going to stand out. Yeah, but yeah, all.
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