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<v Speaker 2>at feel about Thhorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety so.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of breaking news that I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>is something that we would typically spend a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time talking about. But it is certainly a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big piece of news in sports, and that is that

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger Woods has ruptured his achilles and I don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been plenty of injuries in other situations that have

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<v Speaker 2>made us assume we've seen the last of competitive Tiger

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<v Speaker 2>and we were wrong. But I don't know, Man, the

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<v Speaker 2>achilles is it's gonna be tough to come back from.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, so has ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's really amazing this guy can even walk

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<v Speaker 2>when you consider the injuries he's had.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially with the car wreck.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this is something that's been out there on the

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<v Speaker 2>news local news stations since the show started. I just

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<v Speaker 2>haven't really gone there yet because I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of details and I still don't. Certainly a scary situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But earlier today, a former Louisville basketball player and businessman,

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<v Speaker 2>Junior Bridgeman, he suffered a medical emergency while speaking at

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<v Speaker 2>a local fundraising event. So apparently he was being interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>by Kent Taylor of WKY as part of this program.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people, there are hundreds of people in attendance.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it was at the Gold House, the

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<v Speaker 2>forty fifth annual Leadership Luncheon on scouting, and while having

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation, I guess an interview with Kent Taylor, he

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<v Speaker 2>expressed that he thought he was having heart attacks. So

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<v Speaker 2>people immediately jumped up and tried to help emergency medical

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<v Speaker 2>services where the ambulance came and he was taken away

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<v Speaker 2>in an ambulance. And there's not been any official notification

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<v Speaker 2>of his condition as of now, but obviously very scary

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and prayers with Junior. Seventy one years old and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a legend around here when it comes to basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's one of those guys that has become a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really didn't have much to do with basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very successful businessman and obviously had a great

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<v Speaker 2>career played for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm pretty sure his

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<v Speaker 2>numbers retired, but you know, he's made so much money

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<v Speaker 2>as a businessman. He bought Steak and the team he

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<v Speaker 2>played for you're buying steak into an NBA franchise that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're doing pretty well when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when it comes to business. And he's actually

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<v Speaker 2>a co owner currently of Valhalla's golf Club in Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's been on a bunch of different boards throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the city. He's just a very influential, very successful.

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<v Speaker 4>You know man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say businessman.

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<v Speaker 2>He's certainly that, but he's also you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just somebody that around here, regardless if it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of business or basketball. You're you're pretty familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, thoughts, some prayers, not sure of what has

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<v Speaker 2>has has has I guess transpired since he left the

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<v Speaker 2>golf house to go to the emergency room. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll keep you updated as best we can. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got cal in Virginia Tech coming up next

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<v Speaker 2>here on the ACC Network. And of course, the winner

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<v Speaker 2>of this game tomorrow will play Stanford in the winner

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<v Speaker 2>of that game will then play Louisville on Thursday. So

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<v Speaker 2>a very awful ending for the Pittsburgh Panthers. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot of sympathy. In fact, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>earlier within the show, was just complaining about how worthless

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Cable and Pittsburgh are and it was really me

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<v Speaker 2>just being me, being.

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<v Speaker 3>A selfish bad sports better.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just upset because you know, I keep betting on

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh and they keep letting me down. But with all

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<v Speaker 2>that said, they probably weren't going to make the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>but because they were not even on the bubble and

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<v Speaker 2>they would need to win the ACC tournament in order

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<v Speaker 2>to make the tournament themselves instead of a tournament that

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, they got screwed. I mean again, it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have led to a bit, I'm sure, but still

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<v Speaker 2>to have your season ended that way. I mean, for

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<v Speaker 2>those who missed it, go back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>They called a foul on pitt with the game tiede

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame had a desperation kind of you know attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really a desperation attempt. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>quick bad shot with very little time left. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the trigger finger gets a little happy because you'd realize, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get it off before the clock runs out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just end up firing up a bad shot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened with pitt and then somehow I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>with notre name, and somehow they were bailed out, And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was live on the air whenever it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I rewound it during the break, and I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had a time to watch like every angle that

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<v Speaker 2>they showed. But what I'm seeing from folks on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>social media, Twitter really reacting to it makes me believe

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<v Speaker 2>that it was, in fact, you know, as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was, because I mean, this was and

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<v Speaker 2>when I can't figure out and again, if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>watching and you don't care, I totally get it. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the day of shame here. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the worst teams in the ACC playing

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<v Speaker 2>just because that's how bad they were. But I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen anything like that, where again postseason game a season

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<v Speaker 2>essentially decided on such a bad call to where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really sure what they called, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where the like I thought initially that they called a

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<v Speaker 2>foul on this late jump shot attempt where the guy

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<v Speaker 2>fell down, and it turns out it wasn't that they

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<v Speaker 2>called a foul on the putback, which is even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>If in fact they had called both would have been terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no foul here at all. Pitt did not foul.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they were going to call it on the

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<v Speaker 2>first shot, at least you could believe that they were

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<v Speaker 2>sold a great acting job by a Notre Dame player

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<v Speaker 2>who just jumped up in the air and made it

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<v Speaker 2>look like he got hit and fell down. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he misses the shot. Pitt gets a couple of I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame gets a couple of attempts, you know, around

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<v Speaker 2>the rim as the clock's expiring, and they called a

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<v Speaker 2>foul on one of the putback attempts, and it just,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Just bogus.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean how bad was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Literally?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 5>As I'm going through Twitter and do you want to

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<v Speaker 5>believe this as or xysm like watching it because it's

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<v Speaker 5>posted all up. As you were describing it, it was

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<v Speaker 5>almost like I was giving you the literally like it

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<v Speaker 5>because you talked about they took their shot and tried

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<v Speaker 5>to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I was confused too because I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 5>listening to sound, So I was like, did they give

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<v Speaker 5>it to them on the put back or the initial

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<v Speaker 5>late shot attempt that didn't go in, and yeah, if

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<v Speaker 5>it was, it was that put back and that was egregious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean if I mean it just it gives me

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<v Speaker 5>bad memories. I mean that that's March. That stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll be furious something like that happens Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of feel like no matter who it

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<v Speaker 2>is as a team, like I would, I feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>for them, Like that's a that's an awful way to

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<v Speaker 2>have your season ended and it was literally robbed from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, you could have played better and not even

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<v Speaker 2>been in that position. And that's what like, that's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be true when you lose a game and bad,

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<v Speaker 2>bad calls happened, but it's tied and the ref really

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like it'd be worse if if it wasn't tied,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like if it was I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know in any any way how you want to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it. That was just an absolutely awful, awful call.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Coffee and Company, feelbout Thorton's here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven to ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey has now won two different acc Coach of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year a ward. Yesterday was the league that named

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<v Speaker 2>him the ACC Coach of the Year that's voted on

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<v Speaker 2>by the coaches and a handful of media members. And

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<v Speaker 2>then today the AP named Pat kelcey ACC Coach of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year. And somebody asked this on the text line

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I thought I hadn't thought of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I went looking and I got the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>But the question was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The question was, does Pat Kelsey have any bonus? Is like,

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<v Speaker 2>any any bonuses incentives, I should say, for winning Coach

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. And I thought, for sure he does,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know that's pretty common. And sure enough, his

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<v Speaker 2>contract details that became public after he was hired last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are his bonuses for these awards. So he has

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<v Speaker 2>earned a one time, twenty five thousand dollars bonus for

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<v Speaker 2>conference Coach of the Year. That's already happened. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he will get fifty thousand dollars if he wins national

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year, and that could be given to

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<v Speaker 2>that could be given to the There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different awards, but it's the AP, Associated Press, the NABC,

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<v Speaker 2>National Association of Basketball something and then or Naismith.

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<v Speaker 3>So the three main Coach of the Year awards.

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<v Speaker 2>If he gets one of them, he'll also get a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars bonus and just some other bonuses. Since

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at its contract here, which I'm hopeful he

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<v Speaker 2>has a new contract soon. But his benefits include get

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<v Speaker 2>he got fifty thousand dollars of moving expenses.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, he has a life insurance policy for fifteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's important, right, He's got a family, got a family

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<v Speaker 2>membership to the UFL golf Club. Come on now, how

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<v Speaker 2>about a car allowance one thousand dollars a month. He

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<v Speaker 2>can also use a suite at the Young Center for

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<v Speaker 2>all men's basketball games. He also has eight club seats

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<v Speaker 2>to all men's and women's basketball games, football games. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're hooking him up with tickets. You could expect that

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<v Speaker 2>Juan Soto couldn't even get club seats at the Mets

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<v Speaker 2>and his wife also his wife if an immediate family

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<v Speaker 2>are also allowed to travel to away games, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>not even a financial incentive, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a hookup.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's love right there, because you know you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to take your family with you

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they want mean, obviously, I'm sure they don't come

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<v Speaker 2>to every game. They've got you know, kids got school.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure your wife doesn't want to be with you

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<v Speaker 2>every every single game, But yeah, that could go a

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<v Speaker 2>long way. Those are the kind of things you do,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you if you're trying to show a good

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<v Speaker 2>sign of faith. It doesn't just include a bigger paycheck

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<v Speaker 2>like that's that's a nod to your to your coach.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, hey, we get it, we appreciate you. And

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't necessarily show in your bank account. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that that's probably pretty standard. I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine in a lot of places. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't shock me if it's not actually because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a job, it is work, and wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a shocker if if some of these coaches, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe their wives would not be the best

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<v Speaker 2>to have around all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Wonder what is allowances at all, Max Orient, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's got to be in your contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he's ever eaten there, Like I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if Pat Kelsey's ever been to the Jefferson Mall.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great question. He's had to have heard about it, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Charlotte and I want to ask John Shiwarre's

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<v Speaker 2>being such a little bit about not winning Coach of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year, and I want to ask Pat Kelsey if

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<v Speaker 2>has ever been the Jefferson Mall.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't shock me if he said no.

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<v Speaker 5>But if something happens and the only thing that he

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<v Speaker 5>knows about the j Mall is max Orient, then that

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<v Speaker 5>would be a win for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey probably doesn't even know what Jefferson Mall is

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<v Speaker 2>know that I think about it, Probably not because you

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<v Speaker 2>know clearly that mall is not what it once was.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like malls just aren't what they used to

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<v Speaker 2>be in general, Like you, I can't tell it like

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<v Speaker 2>it is. You know, the convenience of buying stuff online

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<v Speaker 2>is great.

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<v Speaker 5>I still like to have it there when I buy it,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why I still keep the malls running.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have patience away for something in the mail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really what it comes down to me for me

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything. But there's also something about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going and buying things and I don't know, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Walking around checking out the latest releases of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>The mall used to just be the place to be,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you didn't have to go get something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people hung out there like every day,

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<v Speaker 2>but like just going to the mall used to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be a thing. And now, I mean, unfortunately, malls

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<v Speaker 2>just aren't what they once were, and like the Jefferson Malls,

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<v Speaker 2>probably some place that people avoid, which I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>they should, but I just like, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have a great reputation seemingly, which I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if that's fair or not. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just there last week. What a what a

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<v Speaker 2>random coincidence? I was there, but I wasn't. So they

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<v Speaker 2>have something called Round ten. It used to be it

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<v Speaker 2>used to be I think it used to be called

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<v Speaker 2>Round one, yes, which I don't. I mean, it's totally

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<v Speaker 2>now it's round ten.

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<v Speaker 4>They just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe I've made that. I think I made that

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<v Speaker 3>name up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think I'm getting the name wrong because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mixing the new name and what it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be called.

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<v Speaker 3>But tilted ten is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, it used to be around one, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Round one and now it's the same facility just now

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<v Speaker 2>owned by a different company. But we went there, took

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<v Speaker 2>the kids on Friday, we bowled, they played games, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they got a full bar, they got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a big food menu. I mean, it's it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's it's not that uncommon to see place. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's I don't want to act like it's totally

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<v Speaker 2>different than where you'd get at a what's the one

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<v Speaker 2>called that's over there on blanken Baker Event, main event,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean even even the play, even the uh it's

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<v Speaker 2>over on Hurstborn what's it called. It's more of a

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh you know what I'm We actually done business there.

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<v Speaker 3>The Malibu Ja, Yeah, Malibu Jacks.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of those places are very much similar, but

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<v Speaker 2>this one's in in I mean, I didn't walk around

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<v Speaker 2>in Jefferson Mall, but it is attached to Jefferson Mall,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean it was a cool place. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to act as if I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson Mall is like the worst place in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I just you know, I mean, it's it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't shock me at Pat Kelsey's never been there.

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<v Speaker 5>When I was younger, I thought working at the mall

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<v Speaker 5>was such like the coolest thing ever, Like I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to get a job at like that until I worked there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they worked there for a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, right, Yeah, I did work in the mall for

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<v Speaker 2>was it an American Eagle or a Crombie Hollister. Hollister,

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<v Speaker 2>have you heard a good ar genes fit? It's all

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted me to do, was and you never had

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<v Speaker 2>the answer for it. Yeah, unfold and refold, and then

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody walked in, I was just supposed to ask

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<v Speaker 2>them if they heard I got our genes fit. I

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<v Speaker 2>was sixteen. It was my first job, and I never

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<v Speaker 2>took many years to realize, Like I wasn't even prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't even train me on what I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to say. If somebody who said, well, actually, now that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned that, I don't know how good the gens fit,

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell me? I would have been like they

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<v Speaker 2>fit good. I mean I would have just That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I would have had to have said. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the UH. I got a break and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the food court and called my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>was like can I leave?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, are you already off? And I'm like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to quit. She was like, it's your first day

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<v Speaker 3>at your first job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Mom, they're having me ask weird questions and

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<v Speaker 2>she she was like, what are you gonna get a

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<v Speaker 2>different job?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I ended up leaving the Saint Matthews Mall after

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<v Speaker 2>one one two hour shift at Hollister and then I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Jefferson mall and became an employee at

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<v Speaker 2>Finish Line. There you go, which was you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't cut out for retail. I'm not as outgoing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I I got things stolen from me a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know was clearly not a good thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I probably should have been in trouble more than I

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<v Speaker 2>was because twice it happened to where you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't aware that people are out here like and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, there's there's some there's some retail analytics that

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<v Speaker 2>you can find that may surprise you that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are in a mall this day and age, the percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are there with the mindset of stealing

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<v Speaker 2>as much as they can is would blow your mind. Sure, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a reason that the employees that these

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<v Speaker 2>places are trained to like monitor people like it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of thiefs out there and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that I guess are good at it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had two different people come in and ask for

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I was just distracted and just

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<v Speaker 2>being a dumb kid, and now I guess I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb adult. But they would ask me, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know these fit a little bit a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>These are a little bit tight, a little bit loose.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you go maybe get me a size bigger? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would just oh yeah, sure, like anything

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<v Speaker 2>to get the customer what they need. And all they

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<v Speaker 2>were wanting to do was to have me walk away

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<v Speaker 2>and then they could put the shoes they were wearing

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<v Speaker 2>in the box that you know, they would just swap

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<v Speaker 2>out their shoes but the shoes they were trying on,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would walk out like it's a Really it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a real big uh. It wasn't some big heightst

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to steal from me, Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty gullible. But what made it really bad is it

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<v Speaker 2>happened once and I was like, man, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>The nervous some people like who does that? And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two days ago by are two different shifts

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<v Speaker 2>go by, and it happened again, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I should probably and they definitely what we want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Put me in the stock room after that, have me

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<v Speaker 2>back there, just still working in the back, which was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a better part of the part of the gig overall.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, back to Pat Kelsey, the contract that he

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<v Speaker 2>signed last year. I mean, we played the audio from

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Minor's conversation with Josh Hurd last week and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very vague.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think there's at least it's at least

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<v Speaker 2>it was at least least worth sharing because I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it he wouldn't say it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he said this as a joke, but

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<v Speaker 2>when asked about I think Terry asked him, in a paraphrasing,

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<v Speaker 2>how often do you get told by people you need

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<v Speaker 2>to pay Josh her more money to or you need

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<v Speaker 2>to pay Pat Kelsey more money to keep him around?

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<v Speaker 2>And he laughed and said something along the lines of

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming, like we're working on it, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that tells me that there's at least a doubt right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're working on getting pen to paper really soon

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<v Speaker 2>and having the agents crunch it out because they're in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of of you know, crunch time here it's postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I would imagine there's been at least some

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<v Speaker 2>level of communication between Pat Kelsey and Kelsey's agent to

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<v Speaker 2>U of L. I'm sorry, I think U of L

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<v Speaker 2>meaning her probably to them like, hey, we're aware that

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<v Speaker 2>the deal you signed last year, although it you know,

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<v Speaker 2>was it wasn't a crazy deal to give him at

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<v Speaker 2>all at the time, and and honestly it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Restructure right away.

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<v Speaker 2>But like he's got all the leverage right now because

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<v Speaker 2>if Pat Kelsey wanted to like shop himself, which he wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if he did, I would die.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, if schools that had openings, cause

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<v Speaker 2>again like Indiana that's being talked about, like Indiana, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>make it to move at Louisville's coach because they know

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<v Speaker 2>they have more money and they feel like they're superior

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<v Speaker 2>and the ACC stinks. And the elephant in the room

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<v Speaker 2>is that Pat Kelsey does not have a contract currently.

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<v Speaker 2>That would make a lot of sense for him to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, turn down a bigger job if offered, because

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<v Speaker 2>he came in at Louisville making good money, clearly making

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more money than he ever made at Charleston

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<v Speaker 2>and Winthrop. But like if if any of the other

424
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<v Speaker 2>schools wanted to take wanted to take a run at him,

425
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<v Speaker 2>which I think they won't because they realized Louisville will

426
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<v Speaker 2>do whatever they got to do to keep it, keep him.

427
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<v Speaker 2>It's Louisville, but currently that's not his arrangement. He's paid

428
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<v Speaker 2>a lot lower than what most would expect for a

429
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<v Speaker 2>successful coach at Louisville. But you know, Louisville wants to

430
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<v Speaker 2>keep around, So you know, I doubt anybody would even

431
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<v Speaker 2>try to make a run for him. But I mean

432
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<v Speaker 2>if they did, Louisville would have to. And this is

433
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<v Speaker 2>where I like, it's not my not my lane, right,

434
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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

435
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

436
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<v Speaker 2>There's way more that goes into this stuff than I

437
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<v Speaker 2>would ever know, but just you know, from from from

438
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<v Speaker 2>a fans perspective, just kind of knowing, Hey, he's contract

439
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.559
<v Speaker 2>is what it is, and he could get other offers,

440
00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want him to leave. I don't know

441
00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.039
<v Speaker 2>how this would happen, but I really hope that he

442
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<v Speaker 2>gets a new deal, which I think he will, but

443
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to turn into where your hand

444
00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.200
<v Speaker 2>was forced because other schools were calling, right, Like, I

445
00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.680
<v Speaker 2>just not that, you know, wouldn't be the end of

446
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<v Speaker 2>the world. But like I would hope that he didn't

447
00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.880
<v Speaker 2>get to that, and I don't think it will because again,

448
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<v Speaker 2>I just still think that if you know, you don't

449
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<v Speaker 2>want to go pursue a coach just to you know,

450
00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.559
<v Speaker 2>ruffle up a different fan base, and nobody would do that.

451
00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:31.079
<v Speaker 2>But like Indiana, they have to know that even if

452
00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.799
<v Speaker 2>they did come with a big offer and they were

453
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<v Speaker 2>doing it before kat Kelsey got a different contract, Like

454
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<v Speaker 2>the likelihood of him bailing after when you're at Louisville

455
00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.359
<v Speaker 2>and then go to Indiana, it's just so unlikely.

456
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<v Speaker 3>And you don't want to be swinging.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And missing because you know you can only I mean,

458
00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.319
<v Speaker 2>you can't force anybody to take your job. But the

459
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<v Speaker 2>more like, again, I'll stand by this. It's probably not

460
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<v Speaker 2>a good time to bring it up now because it

461
00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter. But I thought Louisville's search last year

462
00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:01.720
<v Speaker 2>was executed very poorly. I mean, I don't really know

463
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<v Speaker 2>how it could have been avoided. I mean I have

464
00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:05.880
<v Speaker 2>some I have some theories, but again that's not my world.

465
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes

466
00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>between agents, coaches and all that. But they offered the

467
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<v Speaker 2>job that Dusty May, and they didn't they didn't realize

468
00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that he didn't want the job. Now you talk to

469
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.079
<v Speaker 2>certain people, they'll tell you, well, he misled them or

470
00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.519
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he basically, you know, let us take

471
00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.359
<v Speaker 2>him out to dinner, he ate the steak, drank the wine,

472
00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.559
<v Speaker 2>and then he ghosted us or something. But anybody who

473
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<v Speaker 2>knew Dusty May for a while knew that he didn't

474
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<v Speaker 2>want the job, like he was not going to be

475
00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.160
<v Speaker 2>energized by going to Louisville because it just wasn't a fit.

476
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<v Speaker 2>So it just kind of felt like it was, you

477
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<v Speaker 2>know again like if you if you wanted him that bad,

478
00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.440
<v Speaker 2>then you know you still you make him, you try

479
00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:39.799
<v Speaker 2>to make him want you, right. But also the fact

480
00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that others seemingly knew that he doesn't, like he didn't

481
00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.400
<v Speaker 2>want Louisville and Louisville maybe didn't was just kind of

482
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<v Speaker 2>a bad look. But maybe they knew it and were

483
00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:48.839
<v Speaker 2>still going to try to pursue him. Well, then there

484
00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.160
<v Speaker 2>was the job Shirt situation, which again he was offered

485
00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.799
<v Speaker 2>the job. I mean, it's crazy how this all works out,

486
00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>because Shirts was offered the job, and you know, sounds

487
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<v Speaker 2>like he had a really forty eight hours because he

488
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:03.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to do, because he wanted to take

489
00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the Louisville job, but he'd already signed something with Saint

490
00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Louis to where we're talking multiple millions would have had

491
00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to been paid by Louisville to Saint Louis in order

492
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<v Speaker 2>for Shirts to be able to take the job. So

493
00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.200
<v Speaker 2>that alone eliminated him, and I'm glad that it did.

494
00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.799
<v Speaker 2>But like he was offered the job, and I mean,

495
00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.839
<v Speaker 2>he was calling around to people, you know, connected to

496
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Louisville or at least that used to be around at Louisville,

497
00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:26.319
<v Speaker 2>knowing the administration. And that's what people learn is that

498
00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a new it's a new regime really from what

499
00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it was many years ago. But Shirts was working the phones,

500
00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.480
<v Speaker 2>well inside info for you guys. He was working the

501
00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:36.839
<v Speaker 2>phones to try to figure out do you think there's

502
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.160
<v Speaker 2>any way Louisville would actually be able to round up

503
00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the money to buy me out? And Initially people were thinking,

504
00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>buy you out of Indiana State. What are we talking

505
00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.680
<v Speaker 2>about like a bottle of bourbon? Like Indiana State can't

506
00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:50.200
<v Speaker 2>have a big buy out. It's Indiana State. And he's like,

507
00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.759
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, signed a memorandum with Saint Louis. It was

508
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.839
<v Speaker 2>like four million dollars was gonna have to be paid

509
00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>just to get him, which again that's a blessing in disguise.

510
00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:59.319
<v Speaker 3>They worked out that way. So then it's Pat Kelsey.

511
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I it is crazy how it all

512
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>played out, And I think that it'd be a real

513
00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>shocker if there's not something done, because a few weeks ago,

514
00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe you don't do it unless,

515
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:15.880
<v Speaker 2>like you feel like you have to write like if

516
00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.440
<v Speaker 2>if he knows he's done better than anybody expected, but

517
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have an offer right now from a better

518
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>job with more money than like, why would you go

519
00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.440
<v Speaker 2>do it? Well, it's it's I think you want to

520
00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.839
<v Speaker 2>be a good partner and be a good employer, and like,

521
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, even if it's not super necessary right now,

522
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:34.680
<v Speaker 2>because there's not a real threat of another school coming

523
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 2>to get him, you still should do right by a

524
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>guy that you always want to show that you know

525
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.039
<v Speaker 2>you Again, the way to really show your employer that

526
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:47.839
<v Speaker 2>you appreciate them is what money right, So you can

527
00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:50.680
<v Speaker 2>do that, but also, you know, I think doing it maybe.

528
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Before Like let's say he loses in the.

529
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>First round of the tournament, which could happen, absolutely could happen,

530
00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and he still gets a contract extension.

531
00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Some will say, wow, guy gets a new deal.

532
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even want a tournament game yet, and the

533
00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:02.480
<v Speaker 2>ACC was lousy?

534
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Is it really worth it?

535
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Like people may say that, and that's fine, but I

536
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>think it'd be a sign of good faith.

537
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Look, we don't care about that.

538
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.160
<v Speaker 2>We know what we have here at special and before

539
00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>any other because all you got to do is give

540
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:19.559
<v Speaker 2>him a bump here to where he's probably you know,

541
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where he'd rank, and maybe we can

542
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>look at it, just because I would be interested to

543
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>see kind of what that number is as far as

544
00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:27.759
<v Speaker 2>the range. I'm thinking, because Louisville isn't going to lose

545
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a coach to another school if the contract is right,

546
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:32.200
<v Speaker 2>because again, it's Louisville right now.

547
00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 3>The ACC isn't what it once was.

548
00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.319
<v Speaker 2>But you got to realize coaches, man, they they look

549
00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.519
<v Speaker 2>at that in a way as a chance to shine

550
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.759
<v Speaker 2>at the top of a league, right I mean, even

551
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>if the ACC stays down, I mean, you can still

552
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>be really good in the ACC. Like your conference matters

553
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.559
<v Speaker 2>as far as your resume and the amount of quad

554
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.799
<v Speaker 2>opportunities you have. We learned that this year for sure.

555
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.119
<v Speaker 2>But you know, there's nothing about your conference that can

556
00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.279
<v Speaker 2>keep you from being as good as anybody else out there.

557
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.559
<v Speaker 2>If you've got players, and you got you know, you've

558
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>got a coach that can win games in the tournament.

559
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:06.759
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, like.

560
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>The SEC would anybody would any coach want to go

561
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.319
<v Speaker 2>join that league right now? I mean, yeah, money would help,

562
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 2>because they got a lot of it. But I mean

563
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you could be a phenomenal up and coming coach, be

564
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the seventh eighth best coach in that league, which, hey,

565
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe you want to compete with the best, and I

566
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like people that are built like that.

567
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 3>But there's also something to.

568
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Be said about, you know, being able to still be

569
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.119
<v Speaker 2>among other elite programs historically that probably will be back,

570
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 2>like Carolina is.

571
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Not going to stink Virginia.

572
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 2>They should make a good higher, Like the league won't

573
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>be what it once was for a while, I'm sure,

574
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.079
<v Speaker 2>but like it'll be better in years to come. I

575
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.160
<v Speaker 2>would imagine, And if you're one of the top, like

576
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.559
<v Speaker 2>you could have an acc with these eighteen teams that

577
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 2>it is now I think it is, and you know,

578
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe teams six through eighteen or not good, but maybe

579
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you've got teams one through five that are consistently in

580
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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty. I mean, that's not a crazy theory,

581
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and that would still make it to where you don't

582
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like you're you know, you're in some poor man's league.

583
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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Keep it rolling along. It's coffee and company, and we

585
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<v Speaker 2>all feel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven.

586
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

587
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

588
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<v Speaker 2>It's been a busy couple of days when it comes

589
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to NFL moves being made. And you just heard during

590
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>their commercial break there the Fox Sports Radio update about

591
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>my colts, which I don't even like calling them out,

592
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 2>but if I was going to quit them, I already

593
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 2>would have. I think I tried a couple of times,

594
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and just it's hard to do that when you've emotionally

595
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>invested in a team, I don't know if it's even

596
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>possible to ever just like, I mean, clearly I'm checked out,

597
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not keeping up with the Colts like I

598
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>used to as far as just you know, like being

599
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>really into it because you know, they're pretty to me,

600
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 2>they're they're in like the worst spot as an NFL

601
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 2>team to where they're never going to be bad enough

602
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.240
<v Speaker 2>to get good picks, at least not very often, and

603
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 2>when they do, you know they're never going to get

604
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>as lucky as they were, like they're a franchise. And

605
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 2>by the way they read I'm upset about the Colts

606
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>is because they they clearly made a mistake in drafting

607
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Richardson, and it's obvious to everybody but them, I guess.

608
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>So you knew they were probably going to make some

609
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of a move because if they give ar the

610
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>opportunity and he's continuously going to show them he's terrible,

611
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>then maybe they will pull the plug early next year.

612
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.519
<v Speaker 2>And you want to be able to go to somebody

613
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, hope that they can get you know,

614
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 2>have some success. I mean, I think there's not not

615
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>much needed in order to be a boost up from

616
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Richardson because that's how bad he is. But there's all

617
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>kinds of quarterbacks that are available. In fact, Austin and

618
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I just talked about it last week of all the

619
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>free agent quarterbacks, like who would you go after if

620
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you you know, if you knew you needed a quarterback

621
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 2>this year, Like you had a good team in the

622
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 2>quarterback spot, was the one vacant that you needed to

623
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>go fill? I mean you got Rogers, you got obviously

624
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Donald who had a phenomenal year. I mean, Russell Wilson

625
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 2>is going to be available. Why can I think of

626
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 2>the Jets just signed Justin Fields, who was also with Pittsburgh.

627
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know there were guys out there. I mean

628
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 2>even like Jimmy Garoppolo, Like these are guys that you

629
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>know are are available and will end up somewhere and

630
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of you know, your pickings. And when it

631
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<v Speaker 2>comes to Daniel Jones, like he didn't even get mentioned

632
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<v Speaker 2>because like he couldn't. I mean, he's terrible at the

633
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>end with New York and really was never great at

634
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<v Speaker 2>any point. He just the timing was on his side

635
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>to where when it come when it came down to

636
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like all right, they're gonna have to either move on

637
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:28.839
<v Speaker 2>from him or resign him or something. He had you know,

638
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 2>his best games yet, best run yet, which again was

639
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>good for him, but like you know, clearly he was

640
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 2>a bad investment. The fact that they gave money to

641
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones and not Sequan is crazy. But anyways, like

642
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones signing with the Colts for you know, I

643
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 2>think it's like nineteen million or something like that is

644
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>what his contract can end up being if like he

645
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>reaches incentives and that kind of stuff. I mean, it's

646
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 2>almost like they're just messing with us. I mean, whenever

647
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<v Speaker 2>they ended up losing to the giants of ball teams

648
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>that you know, and that of course eliminated their their

649
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, the their likelihood of making the playoffs and

650
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 2>all kind stuff, which wouldn't matter anyway. But you know,

651
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>they're sitting there with that loss and you know, maybe

652
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>one game above five hundred, I don't remember where they finished,

653
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>but in their mind, like because they're not two and

654
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifteen or whatever, it is their content, like

655
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>they have never been a franchise that is operated. Is

656
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 2>if they have an expectation to be really, really good,

657
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>they have a really high standard, like their content with

658
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>forting with the playoffs every year, and you know, not

659
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 2>being bad enough intentionally to get good draft picks and

660
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 2>try to salvage it. They'll stay where they are and

661
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>look around like, what's everybody upset about? We're not you know,

662
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>we won more than a lot of teams, Like you're

663
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 2>a no man's land, and they embrace that because they're losers.

664
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<v Speaker 2>And the only level of success that franchise has ever

665
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>had was based off of once in a lifetime opportunities

666
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>in the draft that they couldn't screw it up. You

667
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>drafted Andrew Lucky, you drafted Peyton Manning.

668
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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

669
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean they've they've also drafted other good pieces along

670
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 2>the way, but I don't know, do you get what

671
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you got out of Marvin Harrison if it's not Peyton

672
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Manning throwing in the ball. Same thing with Reggie Wayne right.

673
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've had other good players too, other than

674
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 2>just on offense, but like they've it's just a really

675
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>weird feeling and I'm sure other fans out there that

676
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>are mostly into just pro teams and not as much

677
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>college and you don't understand why they're you know because

678
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, it's a business and

679
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody who's involved it's making these big decisions, is making

680
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money. And if they're content with being,

681
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, middle of a pack, then that's what you're

682
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be, right, Like, I now have a real appreciation

683
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 2>for tanking because it's weird in general, just to know that, like, hey,

684
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>let's have some fun. But man, we don't want to

685
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>be any good because we're not. Our ceiling is so low.

686
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 2>We want to actually be the worst or the worst

687
00:29:58.519 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>because if that's the case, then we can get a real,

688
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>really good draft pick and flip it around like it's

689
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's the payoff, right, it's the all right,

690
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>we'll have to sit in this and not only be bad,

691
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 2>but like I want us to really suck so we

692
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>can start over. I mean, that's a weird place to be,

693
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's the right place to be because that's how

694
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.079
<v Speaker 2>you do get it turned around.

695
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean in a weird way.

696
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<v Speaker 2>I guess if I'm making a comp comparison as far

697
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<v Speaker 2>as my colts, but the colts aren't, Like again, I

698
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>want them to be bad, to be bad.

699
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:24.880
<v Speaker 3>They're not bad.

700
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>They're not bad enough, and they won't, you know, they

701
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>never do what most competent franchises do. Is like when

702
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>you know that the ceiling is is borderline playoff, and

703
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you know that you've been kind of there for a while,

704
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 2>like you might want to regroup and say, Okay, now

705
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 2>we're going to make sure that we don't win as

706
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 2>much and we position ourselves to get a really good

707
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>pick so we can get this thing turned around and

708
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>really rehaul. But I say this not as a joke.

709
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I say this genuinely because it's it's just the truth.

710
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne did us a favor by being consistently as

711
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>bad as he was for two years, because I don't

712
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>want to know what would have happened had he won,

713
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, double the games that he won in each

714
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of his first two seasons instead of four, it was

715
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>eight instead of eight, it was sixteen. Because part of

716
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>me says, and we'll never know, and again, I don't

717
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>want to know, but I believe he probably would still

718
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>be our coach here, and that's a really scary thing

719
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>to think about. No. So the fact that he was

720
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>so bad so quickly and really just consistently, I mean,

721
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>it made it to where there was you know, you

722
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>were able to you know, I don't know if it's

723
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 2>a great comparison, but you got to be really really

724
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>bad to get one of those top two or three

725
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 2>draft picks, right. You also got to be really, really

726
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>really bad for a program to fire a coach after

727
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>just two seasons, especially a guy that they had to

728
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>pay a lot of money to get rid of and

729
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a guy that you know played there. So like, in

730
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a way, deep down, it is a good thing that

731
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>it was as bad as it was, because you could

732
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>have been stuck in no man's land where he's here

733
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 2>four years and he was never bad enough for them

734
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to justify just cannon him, but he was bad enough.

735
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>So thank you for that, Kenny. All right, let's talk

736
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<v Speaker 2>about the Little Men's Clinic, shall we. They've been helping

737
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>men in this area for over ten years now. There's

738
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<v Speaker 2>been some I don't even want to call it competition,

739
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<v Speaker 2>because there's no competition when it comes to the lois

740
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of Men's clinic, but there have been some imitators that

741
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>have popped up offering similar services, but they don't stick

742
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>around because they don't do as good of a job.

743
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>They're not, you know, as professional. We got a real

744
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>doctor over there at the lover of Men's Clinic. My

745
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>man doctor would left his previous position working in medicine

746
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<v Speaker 2>to just be the doctor for the Lois of Men's

747
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Clinic and many He's helped a lot of folks, including myself.

748
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>For me, it was low testosterone, but maybe it's not

749
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 2>low t for you. Maybe you know you've got a

750
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>rectaltis function you finally want to address it, Well you should,

751
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and look, it's not a comfortable conversation, I'm sure, but

752
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>they know that this is what they do. They take

753
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>pride in making you comfortable and making you aware that

754
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<v Speaker 2>you're not, you know, in isolation. Here there's a lot

755
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 2>of people that deal with what you deal with with

756
00:32:58.279 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 2>D and there's a lot of different ways you can

757
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>treat it. Maybe you want to lose weight, they've got

758
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 2>weight loss therapy, hair restoration. So there's a lot of

759
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>different services that they can provide to help you be

760
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>a happier and healthier man. So Louivillman's Clinic dot COM's

761
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<v Speaker 2>the website. Check him out, you can give him a call.

762
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<v Speaker 2>FAVEO two four four four four thousand. All right, we'll

763
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>get to this a little bit later on, probably not

764
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 2>in the next segment, just because we won't have a

765
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of time. But Mark Stoops was on KSR

766
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>this morning and I didn't get a chance to listen

767
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 2>to too much of any of it, but I did

768
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 2>see that he was He was on record saying that

769
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>if the SEC moves to nine games, he still wants

770
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to play Louisville, which I mean he could I guess

771
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 2>technically blame it all on Mitch if something happens and

772
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 2>it goes away, But like it makes total sense because again,

773
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no benefit in any way for anybody to not

774
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 2>have this gameplay.

775
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there just isn't. So we'll get to that a.

776
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Little bit later on, in a lot more. We got

777
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>another hour and some change to stick around. It's coffee

778
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<v Speaker 2>and Company. We are feel about Thornton's right here on

779
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety.

780
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

781
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talks, have a nine day.

782
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 2>About eleven and a half minutes left in the first half.

783
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Cal and Virginia Tech. This is uh game two of

784
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the ACC tournament today and the winner this will play

785
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow against Stanford and the winner of that will then

786
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>play Louisville on Thursday. Same thing for Kentucky. They'll play

787
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Thursday the winner of a game that takes place tomorrow

788
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>between Oklahoma and Georgia. So I mean the SEC tournament,

789
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>like I'm I can't.

790
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 4>I have no.

791
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Issue with anybody just you know, gushing over how great

792
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>this league has been from you know, from start of

793
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the season to now, because it's it's really undeniable. It's

794
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 2>been a great league, and they've got some you know,

795
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>they've got a lot of depth, and they've got you know,

796
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>clearly more real legitimate title contenders than any other conference.

797
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>But I guess I'm just a jealous hater because I

798
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>can't deny it, and I get why it's being talked

799
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>about the way it is, but I I'm a little over.

800
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 3>It, like I kind of wanted to burn. And I

801
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it will or not.

802
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>But I do think that there's it's tough to know

803
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>for sure, because again, when you're playing in your own

804
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 2>league for you know, two and a half months, you

805
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>think you know, right, like, you know, maybe all these

806
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>teams that are beating up on each other and by

807
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the way, where you earn the benefit of the doubt

808
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to doing that is in the non conference.

809
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's where the SEC was just so dominant. Like

810
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 2>even teams who's stunk in the SEC, like really bad,

811
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 2>like the bottom of the barrel of the SEC still

812
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>had wins like here and there against teams that are

813
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>believed to be in the top three and other power leagues.

814
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Like let me give you an example, like Clemson. I mean,

815
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<v Speaker 2>Clemson right now is a top ten team in the

816
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>eight people. They're tied with Louisville for second. They finished

817
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>eighteen and two in the SEC. Clemson's a good team,

818
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but you know, they also lost to South Carolina, who

819
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<v Speaker 2>is easily the worst, if not one of the worst.

820
00:35:57.480 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're clearly bottom two or three, I would

821
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<v Speaker 2>imagine in the SAC. So because of what they did

822
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>in the non conference, I can't say that, you know,

823
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>it's not a testament that Okay, Oklahoma, man, they were

824
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 2>rolling before they got the conference play. Right now, they're

825
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>probably you know, about as bubblicious as you could get

826
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the NSAA tournament, and they were

827
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>awful in SEC play, I mean really bad. They finished

828
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>six and twelve in the league.

829
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<v Speaker 3>They're overall right.

830
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Now they are let's see, nineteen and twelve overall, So

831
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, six and twelve, that's a terrible record that

832
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I feel like should not get anybody into any tournament

833
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>of any kind. I don't care what your league looks like.

834
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<v Speaker 2>You're six and twelve, but they got to put sixty

835
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>eight teams in and because of how good the league is,

836
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma's resume right now is a bubble type resume. And

837
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not just because you know, a lot of their

838
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>losses in league play were to really good teams. But

839
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<v Speaker 2>look where they did the non conference. They beat Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat Arizona, they be Michigan. So I mean you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about an Oklahoma team that is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst teams in the SEC. In fact, where they finish,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they had to be at six and twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to be. They got to be like towards

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<v Speaker 2>the let me see, we look at the bracket here,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, the SEC standings, where are they at? Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go, Oklahoma ended up tied for third, so or

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<v Speaker 2>tied for third to last, should say I'm sorry. So

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina and LSU easily the two worst teams Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and Oklahoma finished six and twelve, so you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>clearly one of the worst in their league, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have wins against three teams and other power leagues that

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<v Speaker 2>are in the comp you know, not the best team

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<v Speaker 2>in their leagues, but certainly in the top tier.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're tied for second place. They're the second

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<v Speaker 2>seed in the a SEC tournament and Oklahoma, who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stunk it up in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 3>They beat Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, louisll could have easily won that game, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think louis would beat them if they played them now

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<v Speaker 2>just because louis is different team, but either way that

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<v Speaker 2>it still counts. Louisville lost to them. They also beat

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona Arizona last that checked. I mean, they're not running

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve, but they're certainly one of the teams

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna get in Where Arizona finished in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve, it's got to be, you know, got

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<v Speaker 2>to be towards the top of that league. Arizona finished

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big Twelve fourteen and six overall, and that

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<v Speaker 2>put them in third place, out behind Houston and Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, Oklahoma beat them too.

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan did not finish strong. In fact, a really bad

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<v Speaker 2>ending for Dusty May this year. They really struggled down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch, but they still went twenty to to nine

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen and six. They were tied for second place.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, like because of that, that's why you do

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<v Speaker 2>get the benefit of doubt to where if you're terrible

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<v Speaker 2>in your league, you could still qualify for this sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight team tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Because your league's that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what I also think is is tough to really

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough to gauge. But like that also happened long ago, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it should still count, right because when the regular season counts,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's November December, it still counts. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think Oklahoma would probably lose to all three of those

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<v Speaker 2>teams that they played them. Now it doesn't matter though,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they played them during the season and it

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<v Speaker 2>still counts on your resume. So anyways, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is and I said this yesterday and somebody called me

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<v Speaker 2>out earlier on the text line for not getting to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think in the Elite eight, and this may

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<v Speaker 2>this may not sound like some kind of like real

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<v Speaker 2>disrespectful thing to say, but given how loaded that the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC is, especially at the top, the tip top. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're only going to have it maximum two teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the Elite eight. And again, like that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy thing because there's you know, only eight teams that

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<v Speaker 2>get there. But when you consider how loaded the league

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<v Speaker 2>is actually, do think that would be considered a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a letdown for how good the league was in the

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<v Speaker 2>regular season. I just think a lot of these teams

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<v Speaker 2>have gassed out, and you know, I think there's only

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<v Speaker 2>three really good teams. Then there's a good crop of teams,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after that there's a bunch of teams that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe they are really good and they just

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<v Speaker 2>got beat up in a great league. But like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not buying that. Like Missouri is an elite team right now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Georgia gets in, Like okay, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to put sixty eight teams in.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, how good is George actually?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we got another hour to go

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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety