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Speaker 2: A couple of breaking news that I don't feel like
Speaker 2: is something that we would typically spend a whole lot
Speaker 2: of time talking about. But it is certainly a big,
Speaker 2: big piece of news in sports, and that is that
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods has ruptured his achilles and I don't I mean,
Speaker 2: there's been plenty of injuries in other situations that have
Speaker 2: made us assume we've seen the last of competitive Tiger
Speaker 2: and we were wrong. But I don't know, Man, the
Speaker 2: achilles is it's gonna be tough to come back from.
Speaker 3: But again, so has ever.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really amazing this guy can even walk
Speaker 2: when you consider the injuries he's had.
Speaker 3: Especially with the car wreck.
Speaker 2: Also, this is something that's been out there on the
Speaker 2: news local news stations since the show started. I just
Speaker 2: haven't really gone there yet because I don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of details and I still don't. Certainly a scary situation.
Speaker 2: But earlier today, a former Louisville basketball player and businessman,
Speaker 2: Junior Bridgeman, he suffered a medical emergency while speaking at
Speaker 2: a local fundraising event. So apparently he was being interviewed
Speaker 2: by Kent Taylor of WKY as part of this program.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, there are hundreds of people in attendance.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it was at the Gold House, the
Speaker 2: forty fifth annual Leadership Luncheon on scouting, and while having
Speaker 2: a conversation, I guess an interview with Kent Taylor, he
Speaker 2: expressed that he thought he was having heart attacks. So
Speaker 2: people immediately jumped up and tried to help emergency medical
Speaker 2: services where the ambulance came and he was taken away
Speaker 2: in an ambulance. And there's not been any official notification
Speaker 2: of his condition as of now, but obviously very scary
Speaker 2: thoughts and prayers with Junior. Seventy one years old and
Speaker 2: obviously a legend around here when it comes to basketball,
Speaker 2: but he's one of those guys that has become a billionaire,
Speaker 2: and it really didn't have much to do with basketball.
Speaker 2: He's a very successful businessman and obviously had a great
Speaker 2: career played for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm pretty sure his
Speaker 2: numbers retired, but you know, he's made so much money
Speaker 2: as a businessman. He bought Steak and the team he
Speaker 2: played for you're buying steak into an NBA franchise that
Speaker 2: you know, you're doing pretty well when it comes to
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to business. And he's actually
Speaker 2: a co owner currently of Valhalla's golf Club in Louisville,
Speaker 2: so he's been on a bunch of different boards throughout
Speaker 2: the city. He's just a very influential, very successful.
Speaker 4: You know man.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say businessman.
Speaker 2: He's certainly that, but he's also you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just somebody that around here, regardless if it's because
Speaker 2: of business or basketball. You're you're pretty familiar with him.
Speaker 2: So again, thoughts, some prayers, not sure of what has
Speaker 2: has has has I guess transpired since he left the
Speaker 2: golf house to go to the emergency room. But again,
Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated as best we can. All Right,
Speaker 2: So we've got cal in Virginia Tech coming up next
Speaker 2: here on the ACC Network. And of course, the winner
Speaker 2: of this game tomorrow will play Stanford in the winner
Speaker 2: of that game will then play Louisville on Thursday. So
Speaker 2: a very awful ending for the Pittsburgh Panthers. I don't
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of sympathy. In fact, I actually
Speaker 2: earlier within the show, was just complaining about how worthless
Speaker 2: Jeff Cable and Pittsburgh are and it was really me
Speaker 2: just being me, being.
Speaker 3: A selfish bad sports better.
Speaker 2: That's just upset because you know, I keep betting on
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and they keep letting me down. But with all
Speaker 2: that said, they probably weren't going to make the tournament,
Speaker 2: but because they were not even on the bubble and
Speaker 2: they would need to win the ACC tournament in order
Speaker 2: to make the tournament themselves instead of a tournament that
Speaker 2: is you know, they got screwed. I mean again, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't have led to a bit, I'm sure, but still
Speaker 2: to have your season ended that way. I mean, for
Speaker 2: those who missed it, go back and.
Speaker 3: Look at it.
Speaker 2: They called a foul on pitt with the game tiede
Speaker 2: Notre Dame had a desperation kind of you know attempt.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really a desperation attempt. It was just a
Speaker 2: quick bad shot with very little time left. You know,
Speaker 2: the the trigger finger gets a little happy because you'd realize, oh,
Speaker 2: I got to get it off before the clock runs out,
Speaker 2: and you just end up firing up a bad shot.
Speaker 2: That's what happened with pitt and then somehow I'm sorry
Speaker 2: with notre name, and somehow they were bailed out, And
Speaker 2: I mean I was live on the air whenever it happened,
Speaker 2: and then I rewound it during the break, and I
Speaker 2: haven't had a time to watch like every angle that
Speaker 2: they showed. But what I'm seeing from folks on you know,
Speaker 2: social media, Twitter really reacting to it makes me believe
Speaker 2: that it was, in fact, you know, as bad as
Speaker 2: I thought it was, because I mean, this was and
Speaker 2: when I can't figure out and again, if you're not
Speaker 2: watching and you don't care, I totally get it. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the day of shame here. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the you know, the worst teams in the ACC playing
Speaker 2: just because that's how bad they were. But I've never
Speaker 2: seen anything like that, where again postseason game a season
Speaker 2: essentially decided on such a bad call to where I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure what they called, like I don't know
Speaker 2: where the like I thought initially that they called a
Speaker 2: foul on this late jump shot attempt where the guy
Speaker 2: fell down, and it turns out it wasn't that they
Speaker 2: called a foul on the putback, which is even worse.
Speaker 2: If in fact they had called both would have been terrible.
Speaker 2: There's no foul here at all. Pitt did not foul.
Speaker 2: But if they were going to call it on the
Speaker 2: first shot, at least you could believe that they were
Speaker 2: sold a great acting job by a Notre Dame player
Speaker 2: who just jumped up in the air and made it
Speaker 2: look like he got hit and fell down. But then
Speaker 2: he misses the shot. Pitt gets a couple of I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame gets a couple of attempts, you know, around
Speaker 2: the rim as the clock's expiring, and they called a
Speaker 2: foul on one of the putback attempts, and it just,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: Just bogus.
Speaker 3: Did you see it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean how bad was that?
Speaker 4: Literally?
Speaker 3: I can't believe that.
Speaker 5: As I'm going through Twitter and do you want to
Speaker 5: believe this as or xysm like watching it because it's
Speaker 5: posted all up. As you were describing it, it was
Speaker 5: almost like I was giving you the literally like it
Speaker 5: because you talked about they took their shot and tried
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 4: It was. It was amazing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was confused too because I'm obviously not
Speaker 5: listening to sound, So I was like, did they give
Speaker 5: it to them on the put back or the initial
Speaker 5: late shot attempt that didn't go in, and yeah, if
Speaker 5: it was, it was that put back and that was egregious. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean if I mean it just it gives me
Speaker 5: bad memories. I mean that that's March. That stuff happens.
Speaker 5: But I'll be furious something like that happens Louisville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like no matter who it
Speaker 2: is as a team, like I would, I feel bad
Speaker 2: for them, Like that's a that's an awful way to
Speaker 2: have your season ended and it was literally robbed from you.
Speaker 2: Now again, you could have played better and not even
Speaker 2: been in that position. And that's what like, that's always
Speaker 2: going to be true when you lose a game and bad,
Speaker 2: bad calls happened, but it's tied and the ref really
Speaker 2: you know, like it'd be worse if if it wasn't tied,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if it was I
Speaker 2: don't know in any any way how you want to
Speaker 2: look at it. That was just an absolutely awful, awful call.
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Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey has now won two different acc Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year a ward. Yesterday was the league that named
Speaker 2: him the ACC Coach of the Year that's voted on
Speaker 2: by the coaches and a handful of media members. And
Speaker 2: then today the AP named Pat kelcey ACC Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year. And somebody asked this on the text line
Speaker 2: and I and I thought I hadn't thought of it,
Speaker 2: but I went looking and I got the answer.
Speaker 3: But the question was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The question was, does Pat Kelsey have any bonus? Is like,
Speaker 2: any any bonuses incentives, I should say, for winning Coach
Speaker 2: of the year. And I thought, for sure he does,
Speaker 2: because you know that's pretty common. And sure enough, his
Speaker 2: contract details that became public after he was hired last year.
Speaker 2: Here are his bonuses for these awards. So he has
Speaker 2: earned a one time, twenty five thousand dollars bonus for
Speaker 2: conference Coach of the Year. That's already happened. And then
Speaker 2: he will get fifty thousand dollars if he wins national
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, and that could be given to
Speaker 2: that could be given to the There's a lot of
Speaker 2: different awards, but it's the AP, Associated Press, the NABC,
Speaker 2: National Association of Basketball something and then or Naismith.
Speaker 3: So the three main Coach of the Year awards.
Speaker 2: If he gets one of them, he'll also get a
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars bonus and just some other bonuses. Since
Speaker 2: we're looking at its contract here, which I'm hopeful he
Speaker 2: has a new contract soon. But his benefits include get
Speaker 2: he got fifty thousand dollars of moving expenses.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Also, he has a life insurance policy for fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's important, right, He's got a family, got a family
Speaker 2: membership to the UFL golf Club. Come on now, how
Speaker 2: about a car allowance one thousand dollars a month. He
Speaker 2: can also use a suite at the Young Center for
Speaker 2: all men's basketball games. He also has eight club seats
Speaker 2: to all men's and women's basketball games, football games. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're hooking him up with tickets. You could expect that
Speaker 2: Juan Soto couldn't even get club seats at the Mets
Speaker 2: and his wife also his wife if an immediate family
Speaker 2: are also allowed to travel to away games, that's like
Speaker 2: not even a financial incentive, but.
Speaker 3: That's a hookup.
Speaker 2: Like that's that's love right there, because you know you
Speaker 2: want to be able to take your family with you
Speaker 2: whenever they want mean, obviously, I'm sure they don't come
Speaker 2: to every game. They've got you know, kids got school.
Speaker 2: I'm sure your wife doesn't want to be with you
Speaker 2: every every single game, But yeah, that could go a
Speaker 2: long way. Those are the kind of things you do,
Speaker 2: like if you if you're trying to show a good
Speaker 2: sign of faith. It doesn't just include a bigger paycheck
Speaker 2: like that's that's a nod to your to your coach.
Speaker 2: That's like, hey, we get it, we appreciate you. And
Speaker 2: this doesn't necessarily show in your bank account. But you know,
Speaker 2: I would imagine that that's probably pretty standard. I would
Speaker 2: imagine in a lot of places. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if it's not actually because you know,
Speaker 2: it is a job, it is work, and wouldn't be
Speaker 2: a shocker if if some of these coaches, like I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe their wives would not be the best
Speaker 2: to have around all the time.
Speaker 5: Wonder what is allowances at all, Max Orient, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's got to be in your contract.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's ever eaten there, Like I wonder
Speaker 2: if Pat Kelsey's ever been to the Jefferson Mall.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. He's had to have heard about it, right,
Speaker 4: Like I want to.
Speaker 2: Go to Charlotte and I want to ask John Shiwarre's
Speaker 2: being such a little bit about not winning Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year, and I want to ask Pat Kelsey if
Speaker 2: has ever been the Jefferson Mall.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me if he said no.
Speaker 5: But if something happens and the only thing that he
Speaker 5: knows about the j Mall is max Orient, then that
Speaker 5: would be a win for me.
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey probably doesn't even know what Jefferson Mall is
Speaker 2: know that I think about it, Probably not because you
Speaker 2: know clearly that mall is not what it once was.
Speaker 2: But also like malls just aren't what they used to
Speaker 2: be in general, Like you, I can't tell it like
Speaker 2: it is. You know, the convenience of buying stuff online
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 5: I still like to have it there when I buy it,
Speaker 5: So that's why I still keep the malls running.
Speaker 2: I don't have patience away for something in the mail.
Speaker 2: That's really what it comes down to me for me
Speaker 2: more than anything. But there's also something about, you know,
Speaker 2: going and buying things and I don't know, like.
Speaker 4: Walking around checking out the latest releases of stuff.
Speaker 2: The mall used to just be the place to be,
Speaker 2: even if you didn't have to go get something. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think people hung out there like every day,
Speaker 2: but like just going to the mall used to kind
Speaker 2: of be a thing. And now, I mean, unfortunately, malls
Speaker 2: just aren't what they once were, and like the Jefferson Malls,
Speaker 2: probably some place that people avoid, which I'm not saying
Speaker 2: they should, but I just like, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: it doesn't have a great reputation seemingly, which I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if that's fair or not. But I will say this,
Speaker 2: I was just there last week. What a what a
Speaker 2: random coincidence? I was there, but I wasn't. So they
Speaker 2: have something called Round ten. It used to be it
Speaker 2: used to be I think it used to be called
Speaker 2: Round one, yes, which I don't. I mean, it's totally
Speaker 2: now it's round ten.
Speaker 4: They just happened.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I've made that. I think I made that
Speaker 3: name up.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm getting the name wrong because
Speaker 2: I'm mixing the new name and what it used to
Speaker 2: be called.
Speaker 3: But tilted ten is what it's called.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it used to be around one, so.
Speaker 2: Round one and now it's the same facility just now
Speaker 2: owned by a different company. But we went there, took
Speaker 2: the kids on Friday, we bowled, they played games, and
Speaker 2: I mean they got a full bar, they got you know,
Speaker 2: a big food menu. I mean, it's it. You know,
Speaker 2: there's it's not that uncommon to see place. I mean again,
Speaker 2: it's it's I don't want to act like it's totally
Speaker 2: different than where you'd get at a what's the one
Speaker 2: called that's over there on blanken Baker Event, main event,
Speaker 2: I mean even even the play, even the uh it's
Speaker 2: over on Hurstborn what's it called. It's more of a
Speaker 2: uh uh you know what I'm We actually done business there.
Speaker 3: The Malibu Ja, Yeah, Malibu Jacks.
Speaker 2: A lot of those places are very much similar, but
Speaker 2: this one's in in I mean, I didn't walk around
Speaker 2: in Jefferson Mall, but it is attached to Jefferson Mall,
Speaker 2: and I mean it was a cool place. So you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to act as if I think the
Speaker 2: Jefferson Mall is like the worst place in the world,
Speaker 2: but like I just you know, I mean, it's it
Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me at Pat Kelsey's never been there.
Speaker 5: When I was younger, I thought working at the mall
Speaker 5: was such like the coolest thing ever, Like I wanted
Speaker 5: to get a job at like that until I worked there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they worked there for a whole.
Speaker 2: Day, right, Yeah, I did work in the mall for
Speaker 2: was it an American Eagle or a Crombie Hollister. Hollister,
Speaker 2: have you heard a good ar genes fit? It's all
Speaker 2: I wanted me to do, was and you never had
Speaker 2: the answer for it. Yeah, unfold and refold, and then
Speaker 2: if somebody walked in, I was just supposed to ask
Speaker 2: them if they heard I got our genes fit. I
Speaker 2: was sixteen. It was my first job, and I never
Speaker 2: took many years to realize, Like I wasn't even prepared.
Speaker 2: They didn't even train me on what I was supposed
Speaker 2: to say. If somebody who said, well, actually, now that
Speaker 2: you mentioned that, I don't know how good the gens fit,
Speaker 2: can you tell me? I would have been like they
Speaker 2: fit good. I mean I would have just That's what
Speaker 2: I would have had to have said. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: went to the UH. I got a break and I
Speaker 2: went to the food court and called my mom and
Speaker 2: was like can I leave?
Speaker 3: She's like, are you already off? And I'm like I
Speaker 3: want to quit. She was like, it's your first day
Speaker 3: at your first job.
Speaker 2: It's like Mom, they're having me ask weird questions and
Speaker 2: she she was like, what are you gonna get a
Speaker 2: different job?
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah.
Speaker 2: So I ended up leaving the Saint Matthews Mall after
Speaker 2: one one two hour shift at Hollister and then I
Speaker 2: went to the Jefferson mall and became an employee at
Speaker 2: Finish Line. There you go, which was you know, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't cut out for retail. I'm not as outgoing, and
Speaker 2: I I got things stolen from me a couple of times,
Speaker 2: which you know was clearly not a good thing. And
Speaker 2: I probably should have been in trouble more than I
Speaker 2: was because twice it happened to where you know, I
Speaker 2: just wasn't aware that people are out here like and
Speaker 2: in fact, there's there's some there's some retail analytics that
Speaker 2: you can find that may surprise you that if you
Speaker 2: are in a mall this day and age, the percentage
Speaker 2: of people that are there with the mindset of stealing
Speaker 2: as much as they can is would blow your mind. Sure, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a reason that the employees that these
Speaker 2: places are trained to like monitor people like it. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of thiefs out there and a lot
Speaker 2: of people that I guess are good at it. So
Speaker 2: I had two different people come in and ask for
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I was just distracted and just
Speaker 2: being a dumb kid, and now I guess I'm just
Speaker 2: a dumb adult. But they would ask me, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: you know these fit a little bit a little bit.
Speaker 2: These are a little bit tight, a little bit loose.
Speaker 2: Can you go maybe get me a size bigger? And
Speaker 2: you know, I would just oh yeah, sure, like anything
Speaker 2: to get the customer what they need. And all they
Speaker 2: were wanting to do was to have me walk away
Speaker 2: and then they could put the shoes they were wearing
Speaker 2: in the box that you know, they would just swap
Speaker 2: out their shoes but the shoes they were trying on,
Speaker 2: and they would walk out like it's a Really it
Speaker 2: wasn't a real big uh. It wasn't some big heightst
Speaker 2: to be able to steal from me, Like I was
Speaker 2: pretty gullible. But what made it really bad is it
Speaker 2: happened once and I was like, man, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: The nervous some people like who does that? And then
Speaker 2: you know, two days ago by are two different shifts
Speaker 2: go by, and it happened again, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I should probably and they definitely what we want it.
Speaker 2: Put me in the stock room after that, have me
Speaker 2: back there, just still working in the back, which was
Speaker 2: actually a better part of the part of the gig overall.
Speaker 2: But anyways, back to Pat Kelsey, the contract that he
Speaker 2: signed last year. I mean, we played the audio from
Speaker 2: Terry Minor's conversation with Josh Hurd last week and it
Speaker 2: wasn't anything.
Speaker 3: It was very vague.
Speaker 2: But also I think there's at least it's at least
Speaker 2: it was at least least worth sharing because I mean
Speaker 2: it he wouldn't say it.
Speaker 3: I don't think it mean.
Speaker 2: I don't think he said this as a joke, but
Speaker 2: when asked about I think Terry asked him, in a paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: how often do you get told by people you need
Speaker 2: to pay Josh her more money to or you need
Speaker 2: to pay Pat Kelsey more money to keep him around?
Speaker 2: And he laughed and said something along the lines of
Speaker 2: it's coming, like we're working on it, so you know,
Speaker 2: that tells me that there's at least a doubt right now,
Speaker 2: they're they're working on getting pen to paper really soon
Speaker 2: and having the agents crunch it out because they're in
Speaker 2: the middle of of you know, crunch time here it's postseason.
Speaker 2: So but I would imagine there's been at least some
Speaker 2: level of communication between Pat Kelsey and Kelsey's agent to
Speaker 2: U of L. I'm sorry, I think U of L
Speaker 2: meaning her probably to them like, hey, we're aware that
Speaker 2: the deal you signed last year, although it you know,
Speaker 2: was it wasn't a crazy deal to give him at
Speaker 2: all at the time, and and honestly it's not even
Speaker 2: crazy to you know.
Speaker 3: Restructure right away.
Speaker 2: But like he's got all the leverage right now because
Speaker 2: if Pat Kelsey wanted to like shop himself, which he wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, if he did, I would die.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, if schools that had openings, cause
Speaker 2: again like Indiana that's being talked about, like Indiana, maybe
Speaker 2: make it to move at Louisville's coach because they know
Speaker 2: they have more money and they feel like they're superior
Speaker 2: and the ACC stinks. And the elephant in the room
Speaker 2: is that Pat Kelsey does not have a contract currently.
Speaker 2: That would make a lot of sense for him to
Speaker 2: you know, turn down a bigger job if offered, because
Speaker 2: he came in at Louisville making good money, clearly making
Speaker 2: a lot more money than he ever made at Charleston
Speaker 2: and Winthrop. But like if if any of the other
Speaker 2: schools wanted to take wanted to take a run at him,
Speaker 2: which I think they won't because they realized Louisville will
Speaker 2: do whatever they got to do to keep it, keep him.
Speaker 2: It's Louisville, but currently that's not his arrangement. He's paid
Speaker 2: a lot lower than what most would expect for a
Speaker 2: successful coach at Louisville. But you know, Louisville wants to
Speaker 2: keep around, So you know, I doubt anybody would even
Speaker 2: try to make a run for him. But I mean
Speaker 2: if they did, Louisville would have to. And this is
Speaker 2: where I like, it's not my not my lane, right,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's way more that goes into this stuff than I
Speaker 2: would ever know, but just you know, from from from
Speaker 2: a fans perspective, just kind of knowing, Hey, he's contract
Speaker 2: is what it is, and he could get other offers,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want him to leave. I don't know
Speaker 2: how this would happen, but I really hope that he
Speaker 2: gets a new deal, which I think he will, but
Speaker 2: I don't want it to turn into where your hand
Speaker 2: was forced because other schools were calling, right, Like, I
Speaker 2: just not that, you know, wouldn't be the end of
Speaker 2: the world. But like I would hope that he didn't
Speaker 2: get to that, and I don't think it will because again,
Speaker 2: I just still think that if you know, you don't
Speaker 2: want to go pursue a coach just to you know,
Speaker 2: ruffle up a different fan base, and nobody would do that.
Speaker 2: But like Indiana, they have to know that even if
Speaker 2: they did come with a big offer and they were
Speaker 2: doing it before kat Kelsey got a different contract, Like
Speaker 2: the likelihood of him bailing after when you're at Louisville
Speaker 2: and then go to Indiana, it's just so unlikely.
Speaker 3: And you don't want to be swinging.
Speaker 2: And missing because you know you can only I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't force anybody to take your job. But the
Speaker 2: more like, again, I'll stand by this. It's probably not
Speaker 2: a good time to bring it up now because it
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. But I thought Louisville's search last year
Speaker 2: was executed very poorly. I mean, I don't really know
Speaker 2: how it could have been avoided. I mean I have
Speaker 2: some I have some theories, but again that's not my world.
Speaker 2: I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes
Speaker 2: between agents, coaches and all that. But they offered the
Speaker 2: job that Dusty May, and they didn't they didn't realize
Speaker 2: that he didn't want the job. Now you talk to
Speaker 2: certain people, they'll tell you, well, he misled them or
Speaker 2: he you know, he basically, you know, let us take
Speaker 2: him out to dinner, he ate the steak, drank the wine,
Speaker 2: and then he ghosted us or something. But anybody who
Speaker 2: knew Dusty May for a while knew that he didn't
Speaker 2: want the job, like he was not going to be
Speaker 2: energized by going to Louisville because it just wasn't a fit.
Speaker 2: So it just kind of felt like it was, you
Speaker 2: know again like if you if you wanted him that bad,
Speaker 2: then you know you still you make him, you try
Speaker 2: to make him want you, right. But also the fact
Speaker 2: that others seemingly knew that he doesn't, like he didn't
Speaker 2: want Louisville and Louisville maybe didn't was just kind of
Speaker 2: a bad look. But maybe they knew it and were
Speaker 2: still going to try to pursue him. Well, then there
Speaker 2: was the job Shirt situation, which again he was offered
Speaker 2: the job. I mean, it's crazy how this all works out,
Speaker 2: because Shirts was offered the job, and you know, sounds
Speaker 2: like he had a really forty eight hours because he
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do, because he wanted to take
Speaker 2: the Louisville job, but he'd already signed something with Saint
Speaker 2: Louis to where we're talking multiple millions would have had
Speaker 2: to been paid by Louisville to Saint Louis in order
Speaker 2: for Shirts to be able to take the job. So
Speaker 2: that alone eliminated him, and I'm glad that it did.
Speaker 2: But like he was offered the job, and I mean,
Speaker 2: he was calling around to people, you know, connected to
Speaker 2: Louisville or at least that used to be around at Louisville,
Speaker 2: knowing the administration. And that's what people learn is that
Speaker 2: it's a new it's a new regime really from what
Speaker 2: it was many years ago. But Shirts was working the phones,
Speaker 2: well inside info for you guys. He was working the
Speaker 2: phones to try to figure out do you think there's
Speaker 2: any way Louisville would actually be able to round up
Speaker 2: the money to buy me out? And Initially people were thinking,
Speaker 2: buy you out of Indiana State. What are we talking
Speaker 2: about like a bottle of bourbon? Like Indiana State can't
Speaker 2: have a big buy out. It's Indiana State. And he's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, signed a memorandum with Saint Louis. It was
Speaker 2: like four million dollars was gonna have to be paid
Speaker 2: just to get him, which again that's a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 3: They worked out that way. So then it's Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 2: So you know, I it is crazy how it all
Speaker 2: played out, And I think that it'd be a real
Speaker 2: shocker if there's not something done, because a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe you don't do it unless,
Speaker 2: like you feel like you have to write like if
Speaker 2: if he knows he's done better than anybody expected, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't have an offer right now from a better
Speaker 2: job with more money than like, why would you go
Speaker 2: do it? Well, it's it's I think you want to
Speaker 2: be a good partner and be a good employer, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, even if it's not super necessary right now,
Speaker 2: because there's not a real threat of another school coming
Speaker 2: to get him, you still should do right by a
Speaker 2: guy that you always want to show that you know
Speaker 2: you Again, the way to really show your employer that
Speaker 2: you appreciate them is what money right, So you can
Speaker 2: do that, but also, you know, I think doing it maybe.
Speaker 3: Before Like let's say he loses in the.
Speaker 2: First round of the tournament, which could happen, absolutely could happen,
Speaker 2: and he still gets a contract extension.
Speaker 3: Some will say, wow, guy gets a new deal.
Speaker 2: I don't even want a tournament game yet, and the
Speaker 2: ACC was lousy?
Speaker 3: Is it really worth it?
Speaker 2: Like people may say that, and that's fine, but I
Speaker 2: think it'd be a sign of good faith.
Speaker 3: Look, we don't care about that.
Speaker 2: We know what we have here at special and before
Speaker 2: any other because all you got to do is give
Speaker 2: him a bump here to where he's probably you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know where he'd rank, and maybe we can
Speaker 2: look at it, just because I would be interested to
Speaker 2: see kind of what that number is as far as
Speaker 2: the range. I'm thinking, because Louisville isn't going to lose
Speaker 2: a coach to another school if the contract is right,
Speaker 2: because again, it's Louisville right now.
Speaker 3: The ACC isn't what it once was.
Speaker 2: But you got to realize coaches, man, they they look
Speaker 2: at that in a way as a chance to shine
Speaker 2: at the top of a league, right I mean, even
Speaker 2: if the ACC stays down, I mean, you can still
Speaker 2: be really good in the ACC. Like your conference matters
Speaker 2: as far as your resume and the amount of quad
Speaker 2: opportunities you have. We learned that this year for sure.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's nothing about your conference that can
Speaker 2: keep you from being as good as anybody else out there.
Speaker 2: If you've got players, and you got you know, you've
Speaker 2: got a coach that can win games in the tournament.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: The SEC would anybody would any coach want to go
Speaker 2: join that league right now? I mean, yeah, money would help,
Speaker 2: because they got a lot of it. But I mean
Speaker 2: you could be a phenomenal up and coming coach, be
Speaker 2: the seventh eighth best coach in that league, which, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe you want to compete with the best, and I
Speaker 2: kind of like people that are built like that.
Speaker 3: But there's also something to.
Speaker 2: Be said about, you know, being able to still be
Speaker 2: among other elite programs historically that probably will be back,
Speaker 2: like Carolina is.
Speaker 3: Not going to stink Virginia.
Speaker 2: They should make a good higher, Like the league won't
Speaker 2: be what it once was for a while, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: but like it'll be better in years to come. I
Speaker 2: would imagine, And if you're one of the top, like
Speaker 2: you could have an acc with these eighteen teams that
Speaker 2: it is now I think it is, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe teams six through eighteen or not good, but maybe
Speaker 2: you've got teams one through five that are consistently in
Speaker 2: the top twenty. I mean, that's not a crazy theory,
Speaker 2: and that would still make it to where you don't
Speaker 2: feel like you're you know, you're in some poor man's league.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
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Speaker 2: It's been a busy couple of days when it comes
Speaker 2: to NFL moves being made. And you just heard during
Speaker 2: their commercial break there the Fox Sports Radio update about
Speaker 2: my colts, which I don't even like calling them out,
Speaker 2: but if I was going to quit them, I already
Speaker 2: would have. I think I tried a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and just it's hard to do that when you've emotionally
Speaker 2: invested in a team, I don't know if it's even
Speaker 2: possible to ever just like, I mean, clearly I'm checked out,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not keeping up with the Colts like I
Speaker 2: used to as far as just you know, like being
Speaker 2: really into it because you know, they're pretty to me,
Speaker 2: they're they're in like the worst spot as an NFL
Speaker 2: team to where they're never going to be bad enough
Speaker 2: to get good picks, at least not very often, and
Speaker 2: when they do, you know they're never going to get
Speaker 2: as lucky as they were, like they're a franchise. And
Speaker 2: by the way they read I'm upset about the Colts
Speaker 2: is because they they clearly made a mistake in drafting
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, and it's obvious to everybody but them, I guess.
Speaker 2: So you knew they were probably going to make some
Speaker 2: kind of a move because if they give ar the
Speaker 2: opportunity and he's continuously going to show them he's terrible,
Speaker 2: then maybe they will pull the plug early next year.
Speaker 2: And you want to be able to go to somebody
Speaker 2: and you know, hope that they can get you know,
Speaker 2: have some success. I mean, I think there's not not
Speaker 2: much needed in order to be a boost up from
Speaker 2: Richardson because that's how bad he is. But there's all
Speaker 2: kinds of quarterbacks that are available. In fact, Austin and
Speaker 2: I just talked about it last week of all the
Speaker 2: free agent quarterbacks, like who would you go after if
Speaker 2: you you know, if you knew you needed a quarterback
Speaker 2: this year, Like you had a good team in the
Speaker 2: quarterback spot, was the one vacant that you needed to
Speaker 2: go fill? I mean you got Rogers, you got obviously
Speaker 2: Donald who had a phenomenal year. I mean, Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: is going to be available. Why can I think of
Speaker 2: the Jets just signed Justin Fields, who was also with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: So you know there were guys out there. I mean
Speaker 2: even like Jimmy Garoppolo, Like these are guys that you
Speaker 2: know are are available and will end up somewhere and
Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, your pickings. And when it
Speaker 2: comes to Daniel Jones, like he didn't even get mentioned
Speaker 2: because like he couldn't. I mean, he's terrible at the
Speaker 2: end with New York and really was never great at
Speaker 2: any point. He just the timing was on his side
Speaker 2: to where when it come when it came down to
Speaker 2: like all right, they're gonna have to either move on
Speaker 2: from him or resign him or something. He had you know,
Speaker 2: his best games yet, best run yet, which again was
Speaker 2: good for him, but like you know, clearly he was
Speaker 2: a bad investment. The fact that they gave money to
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and not Sequan is crazy. But anyways, like
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones signing with the Colts for you know, I
Speaker 2: think it's like nineteen million or something like that is
Speaker 2: what his contract can end up being if like he
Speaker 2: reaches incentives and that kind of stuff. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: almost like they're just messing with us. I mean, whenever
Speaker 2: they ended up losing to the giants of ball teams
Speaker 2: that you know, and that of course eliminated their their
Speaker 2: you know, the their likelihood of making the playoffs and
Speaker 2: all kind stuff, which wouldn't matter anyway. But you know,
Speaker 2: they're sitting there with that loss and you know, maybe
Speaker 2: one game above five hundred, I don't remember where they finished,
Speaker 2: but in their mind, like because they're not two and
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen or whatever, it is their content, like
Speaker 2: they have never been a franchise that is operated. Is
Speaker 2: if they have an expectation to be really, really good,
Speaker 2: they have a really high standard, like their content with
Speaker 2: forting with the playoffs every year, and you know, not
Speaker 2: being bad enough intentionally to get good draft picks and
Speaker 2: try to salvage it. They'll stay where they are and
Speaker 2: look around like, what's everybody upset about? We're not you know,
Speaker 2: we won more than a lot of teams, Like you're
Speaker 2: a no man's land, and they embrace that because they're losers.
Speaker 2: And the only level of success that franchise has ever
Speaker 2: had was based off of once in a lifetime opportunities
Speaker 2: in the draft that they couldn't screw it up. You
Speaker 2: drafted Andrew Lucky, you drafted Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I mean they've they've also drafted other good pieces along
Speaker 2: the way, but I don't know, do you get what
Speaker 2: you got out of Marvin Harrison if it's not Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning throwing in the ball. Same thing with Reggie Wayne right.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've had other good players too, other than
Speaker 2: just on offense, but like they've it's just a really
Speaker 2: weird feeling and I'm sure other fans out there that
Speaker 2: are mostly into just pro teams and not as much
Speaker 2: college and you don't understand why they're you know because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's a business and
Speaker 2: everybody who's involved it's making these big decisions, is making
Speaker 2: a lot of money. And if they're content with being,
Speaker 2: you know, middle of a pack, then that's what you're
Speaker 2: gonna be, right, Like, I now have a real appreciation
Speaker 2: for tanking because it's weird in general, just to know that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's have some fun. But man, we don't want to
Speaker 2: be any good because we're not. Our ceiling is so low.
Speaker 2: We want to actually be the worst or the worst
Speaker 2: because if that's the case, then we can get a real,
Speaker 2: really good draft pick and flip it around like it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's the payoff, right, it's the all right,
Speaker 2: we'll have to sit in this and not only be bad,
Speaker 2: but like I want us to really suck so we
Speaker 2: can start over. I mean, that's a weird place to be,
Speaker 2: but it's the right place to be because that's how
Speaker 2: you do get it turned around.
Speaker 3: I mean in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I guess if I'm making a comp comparison as far
Speaker 2: as my colts, but the colts aren't, Like again, I
Speaker 2: want them to be bad, to be bad.
Speaker 3: They're not bad.
Speaker 2: They're not bad enough, and they won't, you know, they
Speaker 2: never do what most competent franchises do. Is like when
Speaker 2: you know that the ceiling is is borderline playoff, and
Speaker 2: you know that you've been kind of there for a while,
Speaker 2: like you might want to regroup and say, Okay, now
Speaker 2: we're going to make sure that we don't win as
Speaker 2: much and we position ourselves to get a really good
Speaker 2: pick so we can get this thing turned around and
Speaker 2: really rehaul. But I say this not as a joke.
Speaker 2: I say this genuinely because it's it's just the truth.
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne did us a favor by being consistently as
Speaker 2: bad as he was for two years, because I don't
Speaker 2: want to know what would have happened had he won,
Speaker 2: you know, double the games that he won in each
Speaker 2: of his first two seasons instead of four, it was
Speaker 2: eight instead of eight, it was sixteen. Because part of
Speaker 2: me says, and we'll never know, and again, I don't
Speaker 2: want to know, but I believe he probably would still
Speaker 2: be our coach here, and that's a really scary thing
Speaker 2: to think about. No. So the fact that he was
Speaker 2: so bad so quickly and really just consistently, I mean,
Speaker 2: it made it to where there was you know, you
Speaker 2: were able to you know, I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: a great comparison, but you got to be really really
Speaker 2: bad to get one of those top two or three
Speaker 2: draft picks, right. You also got to be really, really
Speaker 2: really bad for a program to fire a coach after
Speaker 2: just two seasons, especially a guy that they had to
Speaker 2: pay a lot of money to get rid of and
Speaker 2: a guy that you know played there. So like, in
Speaker 2: a way, deep down, it is a good thing that
Speaker 2: it was as bad as it was, because you could
Speaker 2: have been stuck in no man's land where he's here
Speaker 2: four years and he was never bad enough for them
Speaker 2: to justify just cannon him, but he was bad enough.
Speaker 2: So thank you for that, Kenny. All right, let's talk
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Speaker 2: get to this a little bit later on, probably not
Speaker 2: in the next segment, just because we won't have a
Speaker 2: whole lot of time. But Mark Stoops was on KSR
Speaker 2: this morning and I didn't get a chance to listen
Speaker 2: to too much of any of it, but I did
Speaker 2: see that he was He was on record saying that
Speaker 2: if the SEC moves to nine games, he still wants
Speaker 2: to play Louisville, which I mean he could I guess
Speaker 2: technically blame it all on Mitch if something happens and
Speaker 2: it goes away, But like it makes total sense because again,
Speaker 2: there's no benefit in any way for anybody to not
Speaker 2: have this gameplay.
Speaker 3: I mean, there just isn't. So we'll get to that a.
Speaker 2: Little bit later on, in a lot more. We got
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Speaker 2: About eleven and a half minutes left in the first half.
Speaker 2: Cal and Virginia Tech. This is uh game two of
Speaker 2: the ACC tournament today and the winner this will play
Speaker 2: tomorrow against Stanford and the winner of that will then
Speaker 2: play Louisville on Thursday. Same thing for Kentucky. They'll play
Speaker 2: Thursday the winner of a game that takes place tomorrow
Speaker 2: between Oklahoma and Georgia. So I mean the SEC tournament,
Speaker 2: like I'm I can't.
Speaker 4: I have no.
Speaker 2: Issue with anybody just you know, gushing over how great
Speaker 2: this league has been from you know, from start of
Speaker 2: the season to now, because it's it's really undeniable. It's
Speaker 2: been a great league, and they've got some you know,
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of depth, and they've got you know,
Speaker 2: clearly more real legitimate title contenders than any other conference.
Speaker 2: But I guess I'm just a jealous hater because I
Speaker 2: can't deny it, and I get why it's being talked
Speaker 2: about the way it is, but I I'm a little over.
Speaker 3: It, like I kind of wanted to burn. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if it will or not.
Speaker 2: But I do think that there's it's tough to know
Speaker 2: for sure, because again, when you're playing in your own
Speaker 2: league for you know, two and a half months, you
Speaker 2: think you know, right, like, you know, maybe all these
Speaker 2: teams that are beating up on each other and by
Speaker 2: the way, where you earn the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: when it comes to doing that is in the non conference.
Speaker 2: And that's where the SEC was just so dominant. Like
Speaker 2: even teams who's stunk in the SEC, like really bad,
Speaker 2: like the bottom of the barrel of the SEC still
Speaker 2: had wins like here and there against teams that are
Speaker 2: believed to be in the top three and other power leagues.
Speaker 2: Like let me give you an example, like Clemson. I mean,
Speaker 2: Clemson right now is a top ten team in the
Speaker 2: eight people. They're tied with Louisville for second. They finished
Speaker 2: eighteen and two in the SEC. Clemson's a good team,
Speaker 2: but you know, they also lost to South Carolina, who
Speaker 2: is easily the worst, if not one of the worst.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're clearly bottom two or three, I would
Speaker 2: imagine in the SAC. So because of what they did
Speaker 2: in the non conference, I can't say that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not a testament that Okay, Oklahoma, man, they were
Speaker 2: rolling before they got the conference play. Right now, they're
Speaker 2: probably you know, about as bubblicious as you could get
Speaker 2: when it comes to the NSAA tournament, and they were
Speaker 2: awful in SEC play, I mean really bad. They finished
Speaker 2: six and twelve in the league.
Speaker 3: They're overall right.
Speaker 2: Now they are let's see, nineteen and twelve overall, So
Speaker 2: you know, six and twelve, that's a terrible record that
Speaker 2: I feel like should not get anybody into any tournament
Speaker 2: of any kind. I don't care what your league looks like.
Speaker 2: You're six and twelve, but they got to put sixty
Speaker 2: eight teams in and because of how good the league is,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's resume right now is a bubble type resume. And
Speaker 2: it's not just because you know, a lot of their
Speaker 2: losses in league play were to really good teams. But
Speaker 2: look where they did the non conference. They beat Louisville,
Speaker 2: they beat Arizona, they be Michigan. So I mean you're
Speaker 2: talking about an Oklahoma team that is one of the
Speaker 2: worst teams in the SEC. In fact, where they finish,
Speaker 2: I mean, they had to be at six and twelve,
Speaker 2: they got to be. They got to be like towards
Speaker 2: the let me see, we look at the bracket here,
Speaker 2: because yeah, the SEC standings, where are they at? Here
Speaker 2: we go, Oklahoma ended up tied for third, so or
Speaker 2: tied for third to last, should say I'm sorry. So
Speaker 2: South Carolina and LSU easily the two worst teams Texas
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma finished six and twelve, so you know, they're
Speaker 2: clearly one of the worst in their league, but they
Speaker 2: have wins against three teams and other power leagues that
Speaker 2: are in the comp you know, not the best team
Speaker 2: in their leagues, but certainly in the top tier.
Speaker 3: Like Louisville.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're tied for second place. They're the second
Speaker 2: seed in the a SEC tournament and Oklahoma, who you know,
Speaker 2: stunk it up in the SEC.
Speaker 3: They beat Louisville.
Speaker 2: Now, louisll could have easily won that game, and I
Speaker 2: think louis would beat them if they played them now
Speaker 2: just because louis is different team, but either way that
Speaker 2: it still counts. Louisville lost to them. They also beat
Speaker 2: Arizona Arizona last that checked. I mean, they're not running
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, but they're certainly one of the teams
Speaker 2: that's gonna get in Where Arizona finished in the in
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, it's got to be, you know, got
Speaker 2: to be towards the top of that league. Arizona finished
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve fourteen and six overall, and that
Speaker 2: put them in third place, out behind Houston and Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: So again, Oklahoma beat them too.
Speaker 3: Michigan.
Speaker 2: Michigan did not finish strong. In fact, a really bad
Speaker 2: ending for Dusty May this year. They really struggled down
Speaker 2: the stretch, but they still went twenty to to nine
Speaker 2: and fourteen and six. They were tied for second place.
Speaker 2: So again, like because of that, that's why you do
Speaker 2: get the benefit of doubt to where if you're terrible
Speaker 2: in your league, you could still qualify for this sixty
Speaker 2: eight team tournament.
Speaker 3: Because your league's that good.
Speaker 2: Now, what I also think is is tough to really
Speaker 2: it's tough to gauge. But like that also happened long ago, right,
Speaker 2: it should still count, right because when the regular season counts,
Speaker 2: even if it's November December, it still counts. But I
Speaker 2: think Oklahoma would probably lose to all three of those
Speaker 2: teams that they played them. Now it doesn't matter though,
Speaker 2: I mean they played them during the season and it
Speaker 2: still counts on your resume. So anyways, I think this
Speaker 2: is and I said this yesterday and somebody called me
Speaker 2: out earlier on the text line for not getting to it.
Speaker 2: But I think in the Elite eight, and this may
Speaker 2: this may not sound like some kind of like real
Speaker 2: disrespectful thing to say, but given how loaded that the
Speaker 2: SEC is, especially at the top, the tip top. I
Speaker 2: think they're only going to have it maximum two teams
Speaker 2: in the Elite eight. And again, like that's not a
Speaker 2: crazy thing because there's you know, only eight teams that
Speaker 2: get there. But when you consider how loaded the league
Speaker 2: is actually, do think that would be considered a you know,
Speaker 2: a letdown for how good the league was in the
Speaker 2: regular season. I just think a lot of these teams
Speaker 2: have gassed out, and you know, I think there's only
Speaker 2: three really good teams. Then there's a good crop of teams,
Speaker 2: and then after that there's a bunch of teams that,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they are really good and they just
Speaker 2: got beat up in a great league. But like, I'm
Speaker 2: not buying that. Like Missouri is an elite team right now?
Speaker 2: You know, Georgia gets in, Like okay, I mean again,
Speaker 2: you got to put sixty eight teams in.
Speaker 3: But like, how good is George actually?
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