WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your putty. I got a stream going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog? 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the or over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.920 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, Quice, 14 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:05.480 you better hello, get the buddy out here. What quin, 15 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.719 I'm out there. I thought of a bitch about taking 16 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.480 fort nine. I don't know. Easy an out there? Yeah, 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.239 I'm walking right. 18 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.920 Hey, folks on, welcome my guest to the show. It 19 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.879 is Eric Palasio's from the Hairy Man Road YouTube channel. 20 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:19.079 Welcome back to the show man. 21 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.439 Hey, Brian, I appreciate you having man. Good to be here. 22 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:25.840 I have been looking forward to this conversation. I have 23 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.280 to be honest, probably more than most I have these 24 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.920 days because of all the craziness that's going on in 25 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.280 the Bigfoot world. If you're anywhere near Bigfoot, unless you're 26 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.879 living with your head under a rock or stuck in 27 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.000 the sand, you know that there's some big controversy brewing 28 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.920 around the Patterson Gimlin film. We're going to get into 29 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.840 that tonight because you're the only person I know personally 30 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.319 who's actually seen this documentary capturing Bigfoot that we're. 31 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:52.560 Going to talk about a little bit later. 32 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.319 But for those that might have missed your first appearance 33 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.359 on the show, they may not know who you are, 34 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:00.000 what you're doing in the Bigfoot wark. 35 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.480 Let's start there. Let's give everybody a little bit of 36 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.400 a base for you. 37 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.400 Who is Eric, what got you interested in this subject, 38 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:08.240 and what's been going on in the Bigfoot world for 39 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.120 you over the last couple of years. 40 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.560 I'm from North Austin, Texas, born and raised, been here 41 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.039 pretty much my entire life as far as the Bigfoot 42 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.039 subject goes. The town I grew up in, Round Rock, Texas. 43 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.680 There was always this legend of the hairy Man Road 44 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:26.840 where it adopted that name from. It's a legend that 45 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.240 goes back all the way to the eighteen, hundreds of 46 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:33.199 settlers traveling through the area and they were allegedly chased 47 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.960 out by a wild hairyman. We heard this story growing 48 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.120 up as kids, but I didn't really much stalk into 49 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.360 it until I got older and I started hearing other stories, 50 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.960 and I even had an experience myself that kind of 51 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.240 laid the groundwork for me to produce my own documentary. 52 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.919 It was called The Beast of Brushy Creek, and that 53 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.639 was about two years in the making where I just 54 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.599 dove in headfirst into the local lore, into the people, 55 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.639 what people were saying in the area, and I was 56 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.400 actually able to find the real reason that road was 57 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:05.400 called harry Man Road. For my research, I found a 58 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.919 book from the local postmaster who worked in the area, 59 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.319 and he basically tells the story in his memoir about 60 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.599 a group of kids in nineteen sixty six. Believe it 61 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.319 or not, we're hanging out in this area known as 62 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.199 harry Man Road. It wasn't harry Man Rode at the time. 63 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.120 A group of them hanging out. One of these kids 64 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.280 get stranded and then next day he shows up to 65 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.439 school saying he got chased out of the area by 66 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.360 a wild hairy man. Ever, since then, it was like 67 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.719 going around school caught fire. Shortly after that, the road 68 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:36.639 was officially named Harryman Road, and ever since then, I mean, 69 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:41.840 there's been a long standing of people having sightings, weird encounters, 70 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.000 all types of if you want to say, quote unquote 71 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.439 paranormal stuff happening out there. So I did a lot 72 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.759 of research and that's where my documentary ended up coming out. 73 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.240 And I also did a follow up mainly more focused 74 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.240 on the harry Man Road itself was a legend of 75 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.240 Harryman Road. After I finished doing the documentaries and stuff, 76 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.000 I wanted to branch out use my background. I have 77 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.120 a background in journalism. I'd heard a lot of stories 78 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.680 people grow up with the lore of Bigfoot, and I 79 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.639 want to know if there was anything more that people 80 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:12.120 hadn't discovered or weren't talking about. So I used my background. 81 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.199 I started doing Freedom of Information Act requests for your request. 82 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:19.360 In that pursuit, I actually got some really incredible stuff. 83 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.959 I've got nine to one one phone calls of people 84 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.279 calling the sheriff's officers saying, hey, I got Bigfoot on 85 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.560 my game camera. I've even got photographs of what people 86 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.600 are claiming to be Bigfoot recently, I actually got the 87 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.480 entire information the cryptid database of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries, 88 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.720 and it has every cryptid piece of information they have 89 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.399 in there. There's a couple that are really interesting. One 90 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.000 of the ones that kind of stood out to me 91 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.680 was that this Louisiana officer was polling all his rangers saying, hey, 92 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.519 I need to know if you guys have seen any cryptids, 93 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.120 anything weird. He says, bigfoot, choop ofcabra. I think even 94 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:56.040 says the rugaru in there is it's Louisiana. A lot 95 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:57.759 of them. I think the majority just said I haven't 96 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.680 seen anything. I have the email chains there, I haven't 97 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.199 seen it. Nothing. And then two guys have two separate 98 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.040 encounters with people that called them personally saying hey, I 99 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.480 have stuff going on my property. Another guy said, hey, 100 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.480 I got this thing crossing the road. I wouldn't assist 101 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.160 in crossing the road or whatever. These are stories that 102 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.279 you're not going to see on a forum or a 103 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:22.279 Facebook group anything like that. These are from law enforcements 104 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.519 that they were never expecting this stuff to come out, 105 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.160 so they're speaking freely, and it's interesting when you see 106 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.480 that and most recently, I did the same thing for 107 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.319 the Arizona game, and Fish and I have every piece 108 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.560 of cryptid information they've ever produced. There's a really interesting 109 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.639 encounter where a couple encounter something with glowing red eyes. 110 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:43.439 They call the police, and at the end of the call, 111 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.480 the dispatcher says it must be bigfoot. Whether or not 112 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.000 he's serious, it's interesting. They were hysterical apparently, and I'm 113 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.920 trying to get that phone call. Unfortunately, I'm learning as 114 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.360 we go along that a lot of these law enforcement 115 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.720 agencies they only hold the phone calls for they have 116 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.959 different standards, but a lot of just sixty days to 117 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.199 ninety days, and then they just completely delete it, which 118 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.000 is It's sad because you think about all the opportunities 119 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.439 that have been missed. A lot of times there is 120 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:12.480 radio transmissions typed up or whatever. Same thing with the calls, 121 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.279 you actually get the transcripts, so little by little, I'm 122 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.680 working to patch together this chain of law enforcement and 123 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:19.480 bigfoot evidence. 124 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:23.000 If you will, absolutely love it, man, very few people 125 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.920 dive into the for your request, because you can certainly 126 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.519 testify to it's not an easy process for most people 127 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:31.600 to figure out. It's a lot of hoops to jump 128 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:36.079 through a lot of cases. It's very expensive these jurisdictions. 129 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:37.560 I know you've run into that. I think we talked 130 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.079 about that the first time you were on the show. 131 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.360 They're charging in some cases tens of thousands of dollars 132 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.319 to get this information. It's a huge roadblock for people 133 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:48.759 that are trying to get that. So I am so 134 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:50.560 glad that you're out there fighting the good fight and 135 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.319 doing that. But that's not what we're here for, folks. 136 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:57.759 We are here to talk about the Sacred Cow, the 137 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:03.360 Patterson Gimlin film, this new documentary capturing Bigfoot that has 138 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:08.160 literally captured everybody in the Bigfoot community's attention over these 139 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:11.519 last couple of weeks. It started swirling around the drain 140 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.759 for me probably two and a half weeks or so. 141 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.000 I started seeing some rumblings online. Let me ask you this, Eric, 142 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.600 when did it first become something that was on your radar? 143 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.360 How did you find out about the documentary and how 144 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.240 did you ultimately end up at this screening that you went. 145 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:27.480 To in Austin to see this film. 146 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.959 It was a spur of the moment type of thing. 147 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.199 I'm a bigfoot researcher, investigator. If you will. It popped 148 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.720 up on my radar. It'd seen an article basically saying 149 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.480 that this new documentary was premiering it south By Southwest. 150 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.000 It supposedly has this new footage and I was like, wow, 151 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.879 that's really interesting and didn't get a lot of buzz. 152 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.920 I think there was only one article I could find 153 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.040 about that. So I'd actually heard about that maybe five 154 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.079 or six days before the actual screening was to take place, 155 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:53.800 and I was like, man, I got to be there. 156 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.480 I got to be there. Unfortunately, south By Southwest is 157 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.920 crazy expensive, and you're talking about platinum badges going for 158 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.680 three thousand dollars. A film and TV badge is going 159 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:05.519 for fifteen hundred dollars, and so I wasn't about to 160 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.000 pay that much. But luckily worked in public broadcasting for 161 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.160 ten plus years. We've got a little group within our 162 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:14.480 own collective that we're able to message each other and 163 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:16.839 stuff like that, and luckily I was able to find 164 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:19.399 someone that wasn't going to be able to use their badge, 165 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.279 so offered them some money for it. Got the badge. 166 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:25.439 I was ready. I was set. But just getting the badge, 167 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:27.800 that doesn't mean you're going to get into the screening 168 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.879 because it's a limited screening, especially where they had the 169 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.919 screening at. It was the Alamo Draft House in Austin, 170 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.879 South Lamore. That's a really tiny venue. You're talking about 171 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.879 maybe thirty seats in there. It's a really small venue. 172 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.600 I got the platinum badge and I was like, hey, 173 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.679 I got to get there early. I waited in line 174 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.480 for six and a half hours to make sure I 175 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.679 got a seat there. People are passing me by, Hey, 176 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.639 what are you here to see capturing Bigfoot? What are 177 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.679 you here to see? They'd named the movie. A lot 178 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:57.120 of people even hats out, but I didn't even realize 179 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:59.600 that this was a thing. The Bigfoot movie was a thing. 180 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.480 I think once the screening time started rolling around at nine, 181 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.919 I was like nine to fifteen or whatever, people started 182 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:07.840 showing up and then there was even like a Bigfoot 183 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.519 guy in a costume walking around, so people were like, 184 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.279 what's up with the big Foot stuff? A lot of 185 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.519 people coming up to me and asking me what's going on. 186 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.679 And I actually did a live stream with Sasquatch Secrets 187 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:19.759 on Nicky's channel, which is pretty cool. I was waiting 188 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.399 in line while that whole thing's going on, just to 189 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.320 prove I was there, guys, I was there. I had 190 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.039 the ticket and everything. That was really cool, and sure 191 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.120 enough I see Clint Patterson walking up. I recognized him 192 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.080 right away, cowboy hat suit, and I walked right up 193 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.159 to him and started asking him questions and stuff like that. 194 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.039 He was really nice and polite. Shortly after that, the 195 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.759 director Mark Evans was there with his producer. They saw 196 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.200 what I was doing. They were interested, came up to 197 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:45.960 talk to me a little bit. We had a little conversation, 198 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.360 and it was getting ready to head into the theater. 199 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.440 They wanted to make sure I had a seat because 200 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.000 they know I had been there for six hours and 201 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.480 a lot of times. It was south by Southwest, you'll get 202 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.080 some of these, I guess, celebrities, Like everybody was saying 203 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.919 John Stamos was there. I didn't see him, but everybody's oh, Josh, 204 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.360 stay most there, so it could have filled up, but 205 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.840 he actually came and pulled me into the theater. They 206 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:06.519 had two screens that were showing the film. On the 207 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.840 first theater I had filled up, so I was like, 208 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.639 oh crap, that's not good. Luckily, there were like four 209 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.120 seats left in the other theater, so he made sure 210 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.159 I got a seat. He says, okay, cool, he says, 211 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.120 you want to attend the Q and A. I was like, hell, yeah, 212 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:19.600 I want to attend the Q and A. He's okay, cool, 213 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.919 I'll come back and get you. So watched the film. 214 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:25.000 It was incredible, and they came back and brought me 215 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.840 for the Q and A. That's basically the story of 216 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.000 how I got there. It was really lucky. I was 217 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:30.919 just a matter of chance, but I tried it. I 218 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:32.399 had to be there. I had to be there if 219 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.200 it was happening in my hometown, I wasn't going to 220 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.440 let it slide. So that's made it happen luckily. 221 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:37.960 Yeah. 222 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.960 I am so glad you did, because when this started 223 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.960 Circle in the Drain, people were immediately firing off things 224 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:49.759 on social media Instagram, TikTok x. I was getting voicemails, 225 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:51.639 I was getting text messages, emails. 226 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:52.840 What do you think about this? 227 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:54.440 What do you think about that They're supposed to be 228 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.960 this new clip in this film that may or may 229 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.440 not prove that the Patterson Gimlin film as a hoax? 230 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.720 And I'm like, guys, I have zero information here. I'm 231 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.320 just finding this stuff out in real time. I don't 232 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:08.799 know anybody who's seen it. I've certainly not seen the 233 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:10.360 documentary itself. 234 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:11.639 So I waited. 235 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.159 I sat back and I just watched what was unfolding, 236 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.960 and I was watching people, frankly, make a fool of themselves. 237 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.120 I'm not gonna really call anybody out here, but there's 238 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.120 plenty of bigfooters that are very well known that are 239 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.879 out there painting themselves into a corner, in my opinion, 240 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.279 and there may be some steaming hot crow or even 241 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.399 some cold crow that's got to be eaten at some 242 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:32.480 point in time on. 243 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:33.879 Both sides of the aisle here. 244 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.600 But I was just gonna stay quiet because I had 245 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.679 nothing to say. Who wants my opinion anyway, So I 246 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.039 sat back and waited, and I was so glad to 247 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.279 see that you took the time to do a reaction video, 248 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.200 And as soon as that popped up on my YouTube feed, 249 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.000 I was like, I've got to watch what Eric's got 250 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.799 to say, because he was there. It's about thirty three 251 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:59.000 minutes or so, and I was blown away. First and foremost, 252 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.840 I have to say just the emotion that I felt 253 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.480 from you, because you're clearly someone who has a vested 254 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:10.879 interest in some ways. In this subject, you are an investigator. 255 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.080 You are a researcher who cares about the subject, just 256 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.120 like the rest of us, who I think are in 257 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.360 this for the right reasons. So the Patterson Gimlin film 258 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.159 is a touchy subject for a lot of people. I 259 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.039 think it has become over the years, the sacred cow, 260 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:24.759 if you will. 261 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:26.320 In the Church of Bigfoot. 262 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.360 There are people that defend it wholeheartedly, and that's what's 263 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:31.200 happening right now. 264 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.799 And it's one of those things. Oh it's I always 265 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.519 knew it was a hoax. That just proves it. 266 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.200 And then on the other side of the aisle you 267 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:40.360 have these people screaming that I stand with Bob, Patty's 268 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:44.919 real the whole nine yards. And frankly, nobody who's talking 269 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:48.200 about it other than you that I know, has actually 270 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.000 seen the documentary. I was so glad to see that 271 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:52.919 you did that video because it gave. 272 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:53.759 Me something to go on. 273 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:57.039 Because we're not best friends, we don't hang out, but 274 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.480 I know you. You've been on the show. I followed 275 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.240 what you do and I respect what you do in 276 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.879 this community. So when someone that I see as an 277 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.200 honest person who doesn't have a dog in this proverbial fight, 278 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.919 who's just simply reacting to what they saw evidence that 279 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.399 has been presented to them. That was powerful enough for 280 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.000 me to go on and do a live on my 281 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.000 social media and talk a little bit about, Hey, this 282 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.480 is what's going on, this is what Eric has said 283 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.320 he saw, and this is somebody that I trust. I 284 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:32.960 trust your opinion in the community enough to say, if 285 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.039 Eric is saying that he saw this, I think there may. 286 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:37.840 Be a there there. 287 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.360 So, of course, when I did that, it was not 288 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.200 ten minutes later my phone was ringing and it was 289 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.759 Doug Hicheck. Doug high Chick called me and he said, hey, 290 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:47.720 I saw your live. Let me give you some information 291 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:49.919 about what I know. So Doug and I had about 292 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.000 a thirty minute conversation and then the phone rang and 293 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:53.759 it was somebody else. It was Steve Calls. It was 294 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.440 this person, it was that person. I've told everybody the 295 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.840 same thing ever since I watched your reaction video and 296 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.000 ever since I did the first live, is if what 297 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.200 you've described seeing in this documentary is accurate, and I 298 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.000 do believe that it is, it is very troublesome at 299 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.919 the very least for the authenticity of the Patterson gimun film. 300 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.399 Because this film has stood for like fifty seven years 301 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.440 in and it's been studied, it's been torn apart, it's 302 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.600 been put back together, and so many people have come 303 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:29.840 down on so many sides. But by and large, I 304 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:32.639 think the majority of the Bigfoot community, and I'm using 305 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:33.679 my proverbial air. 306 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.799 Quotes here, believe that it's real. 307 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.240 I've always had a problem with the authenticity of the film. 308 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:44.159 I've been on the record about that for years, just 309 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.799 until the last year and a half. Two years, I 310 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:51.200 actually did a show where I compared some earlier interviews 311 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.320 with Bob an interview with I and Rogers six days 312 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.840 after they allegedly filmed Patty over on the Sasquatch Archives 313 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.519 with Todd Prescott. I reached out to Todd. He allowed 314 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:01.639 me to use that for the show. 315 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:02.480 Then. 316 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.679 I think that last interview with Bob was about twenty 317 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:06.440 nineteen ish. 318 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.320 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be 319 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:17.879 right back. After these messages, I put my cop brain on. Look. 320 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:21.120 I'm not a film expert. I can't break down Patty's walk. 321 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:23.399 I can't talk about what's in the film, But what 322 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.600 I can talk about is what Bob has said for 323 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.919 the last five plus decades. I can look at that 324 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.639 and how that's changed or if it's changed over the years. 325 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.600 And there were certainly some inconsistencies there that most people, 326 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.759 including myself, ultimately chalked up to, Hey, this guy's in 327 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:44.559 his late eighties, he's now in his early nineties. Do 328 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.360 I remember what I had for breakfast this morning? I don't, 329 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.320 so is it possible? Did he gets some things wrong 330 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.919 over the course of fifty plus years. I gave the 331 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.360 man some grace, and I finally, just about a year 332 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.519 and a half ago, said, you know what I have 333 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.720 to say, having looked at the totality of this circumstances, 334 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.840 I feel like Bob's probably telling the truth. So there 335 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:08.039 you go into story until something else comes along that 336 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.440 may prove otherwise. And I think that's part of the 337 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:14.639 issue that we're having in this Bigfoot community and just 338 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.360 frankly at large, but specific to the Bigfoot community, is 339 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.759 people seem to get into these groups, these camps, and 340 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.080 nothing can sway them. If they've made up their mind, 341 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.080 they don't want any more evidence. And that's one of 342 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:31.679 the sad things that I've seen people that I've talked 343 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.080 to and become friends with in the Bigfoot community that 344 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.320 are out there screaming to the rafters. They're attacking you, 345 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:43.039 They're attacking Mark Evans, they're attacking anybody who's even remotely 346 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:47.600 in the orbit of this film, just because it's challenging 347 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.679 what they've convinced themselves to be real without looking at 348 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:52.200 the evidence. 349 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.120 And that is a problem for me. That's a huge 350 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:55.679 red flag. 351 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.279 There's people out there calling for boycotts of the documentary. 352 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:02.519 It's a whole They've made this up. Clint Patterson's just 353 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.880 looking for a payday, and that is really sad to 354 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:09.200 me because it just says to me that you're not 355 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.880 really seeking the truth, You're only seeking confirmation of what 356 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.000 you already believe. And to me, that's problematic because I 357 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:19.400 don't care if Patty's real or not. I know the 358 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.680 experiences I've had. I know the experiences thousands of people 359 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.000 now at this point that I've interviewed have shared with me. 360 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.039 I know those to be true. I've stood ten feet 361 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:29.240 away from one of these creatures. 362 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:30.359 I know they're real. 363 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.000 And I've said that since day one. Patty can be 364 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.839 fake and Bigfoot can still be real those two things 365 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.839 can exist at the same time, they can be mutually exclusive. 366 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.319 I said all that to say, you get into the documentary, 367 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:50.000 you're watching it. Obviously, you can see the players. You 368 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.039 can pull it up on IMDb right now. You can 369 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.519 see the names that are in this documentary. You've got 370 00:17:54.960 --> 00:18:00.759 the late doctor Jeff Meldrum, Bob Eronymous, Bill Lunn, Greg Long, Patterson, 371 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:05.960 Clint Patterson, You've got all the players in this story. 372 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.000 To me, it's about the totality of the circumstances. I 373 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:11.480 guess a good place to start would be, let's talk 374 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.519 about the role that Clint Patterson and Patricia Patterson play 375 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.480 in this documentary, because I think that's very powerful to me. 376 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:19.519 When you have. 377 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:24.039 Someone that close to someone who then comes out and says, hey, 378 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:29.359 that's not entirely accurate, or that's not true, or this 379 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:32.200 is a hoax, I think you should perk up and listen. 380 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.359 So can you kind of walk us through what you 381 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.240 see their role in the documentary, and then certainly we'll 382 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.599 get into obviously the forty second clip that comes a 383 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:41.279 little bit later. 384 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.440 The documentary, first of all, is just super emotionally charged. 385 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.880 You're hearing stories about Clint him and his siblings being 386 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.720 brought up to the living room and his grandmother pretty 387 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:54.799 much breaking the news, Hey, your father died last night. 388 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:57.880 That was just a gut punch to him. Glovey and 389 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.039 admiration he had for his dad was just second to none, 390 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.160 and he talks about it in the documentary. I could 391 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:05.359 care less about bigfoot. I just wanted to be out 392 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:07.279 there with my dad. He goes, and if he's bigfoot hunting, 393 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.160 then we're bigfoot hunting. And that was really interesting and 394 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.079 hard to see the way he was getting choked up 395 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:13.599 every time he talked about his dad. He could tell 396 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:16.880 he really loved his dad. And shortly after his father 397 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.960 had passed away, he talks about going into the living 398 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.319 room one day and his mother is there smoking cigarettes. 399 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.440 They're talking and she basically confesses that Bob Eronomus was 400 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.519 in the bigfoot suit to him when he was a 401 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.680