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<v Speaker 1>My friend Stewart. He got weirdly obsessed once with catching catfish,

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<v Speaker 1>or attempting to catch catfish with his teeth, not with

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<v Speaker 1>his teeth, with a fishing rod, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Within beat them to death for the fishing rod.

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<v Speaker 1>Within probably a week of him boring us with catfish,

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<v Speaker 1>his nickname quickly got changed to catman's stew Ah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just got told by somebody that they said, oh, lovely

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<v Speaker 1>cover on st this week, and I haven't seen what

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<v Speaker 1>one they picked.

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<v Speaker 3>Sold on it just so happens, Callum, I have here,

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<v Speaker 3>what's this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really keen to know what picture they picked?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's a Collins catalog. I'll read that cover to cover.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at that, go to show me. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see a little spaniel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I edited of grass out in

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the dog's eye in that one? So

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<v Speaker 1>did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I never with a little tea? Well I never, So

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<v Speaker 3>let me just make sure. And it's going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the thing because this week's cover cover image was

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<v Speaker 3>supplied by Callum mciner. Honesty. Finally, that's very good news. Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll read that Collins catalog with great interest, and.

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<v Speaker 1>On three covers, three covers so far this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think six.

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<v Speaker 3>You honestly, you're You're admirable, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Presumably they don't know you do this podcast yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise that's you know, that's just going to dry up

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<v Speaker 2>straight away, isn't it. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly, I'm very professional in these in all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hanging hanging around, hanging around with us is probably

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<v Speaker 3>a downside.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually Amy edits out all the stuff where I'm unprofessional,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Does I never noticed that with.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot on the cutting room floor. Okay, there's at

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<v Speaker 2>least there's at least four hours from every week that

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<v Speaker 2>we just get rid of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you see that delightful lady who did all that

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen disco. What's her name? Mum double barrowed name girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Kitchen disco, kitchen disco? That really pretty girl? What's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>The one Sophie ll Aspecster. Yes, you see she said

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<v Speaker 3>there was murder on the dance floor on Amy's cutting room.

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<v Speaker 3>There's callum all over.

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<v Speaker 1>I photographed her three times.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I'd have done it more than three times.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that for nothing, I'd have photographed her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's outside her house. Did she know about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's why I wear Can.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine that a kitchen disco, there's a man dressed

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<v Speaker 3>as Bungle outside the kitchen window scaring the kids? Was lockdown?

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<v Speaker 3>Went here again?

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<v Speaker 1>He's here again.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are we talking about this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Richard? We are going to talk about the burgeoning spring,

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<v Speaker 2>the springing spring, and some other stuff as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how about that? Is that a good description? I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like these clear and concise instructions spring and other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well everything, you know, other stuff. Just it could it

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<v Speaker 2>just ties it all nicely into anything in the world

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<v Speaker 2>or the universe as we know it. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that, you know, our listenership burgeoning as it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they don't want us to go and dictate them.

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<v Speaker 3>Most people's lives are heavily dictated either by this dictatorship

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<v Speaker 3>which we currently live under and the rest of society largely.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a lot of dictatorship and bullying and generally

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<v Speaker 3>telling you what to do. I like to think that

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<v Speaker 3>country Slide is a libertarian space that people can escape

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<v Speaker 3>into for an hour or for how long we go

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<v Speaker 3>on for, you know, and feel as one with us

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<v Speaker 3>in our slightly pickled state.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as I said the other week to the editor

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<v Speaker 2>of an online writing place that our aim is to

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<v Speaker 2>one day make somebody actually crash a tractor whilst listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us. Yeah, I think we've come close a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I think we have. So it's quite funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all these all these funny little messages from

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<v Speaker 2>mates of mine, and actually people are really surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>Today I went, we had a load of superb scientists

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<v Speaker 3>come to the farm cluster to go and talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a project which we're working on. Means these a proper

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<v Speaker 3>grown up scientist and they're all saying, I love that podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, really, you're proper grown ups. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you actually have like professor in front of your name,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're listening to this drivel. My lord, this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is a bit of a worry, isn't it. We

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<v Speaker 3>must sort of grow up. We have to stop Callum

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<v Speaker 3>from doing the bunk all outfiting every.

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<v Speaker 2>Week saying all those things he says.

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<v Speaker 1>Every week, You'll never stop me, you'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Never catch me govnor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now never take me alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So we normally do this little what have we done

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<v Speaker 2>this week? Thing? But like you said, Richard or you

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<v Speaker 2>you sort of what you've done this week is staring

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<v Speaker 2>at a hedge, hitting it with a blade, or digging

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<v Speaker 2>and putting a tree in. Callum takes photos of spaniels

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<v Speaker 2>and I do stuff I'm not really meant to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about at the moment. Sometimes sometimes labradors. Yes, But

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<v Speaker 2>so we want to try and twist that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've written a thing for Scriye Pound, which I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't read yet, but all the people that I've told

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<v Speaker 2>to go and subscribe to Scribe Pound have said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this article is bloody brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Well if used to read it now, it's right George Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>who now we all know because we've all appeared on

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<v Speaker 3>the Guns on Pegs podcast and so and he is

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<v Speaker 3>was he called the creative director for Scribe a Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Wizards of the Grand, and he is a top man.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like him. And he said to me, he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what he goes? This is supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bit that you can say what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to say. And someone had put on a group somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>saying have you seen this? And it was the Farmer's Weeklies,

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok and Instagram feed from The Lammer Show a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks ago, and the Lammer Show is the Lincoln

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<v Speaker 3>shere Agricultural Machinery Show basically, and it's full of massive

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<v Speaker 3>kit because obviously Lincoln shere Is needs massive kit, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's all heavy arable and vege growing and dah da

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<v Speaker 3>da dah. So it attracts young farmers, mainly male, who

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<v Speaker 3>are drooling over these disgustingly big and shiny power for

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<v Speaker 3>beer moths of tractors and combines and harvesters and all

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of things. And quite cleverly, the Farmer's Weekly spotted

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a bit of a recurring theme, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was the mullet. And they got all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>who were all there sort of drooling over these tractors

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and all dressed in the identical kit, and

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<v Speaker 3>got them to fluff up their mullet and toss their

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<v Speaker 3>hair around like they're in one of those nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 3>Timo te adverts and stuff. And it was quite funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I thought about, you know, my son, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got what's called a modern mullllet.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between a modern mullet and an old

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<v Speaker 1>school retro mullet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't that a great question? See the other good

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<v Speaker 3>thing about scripand is you don't just have to write

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<v Speaker 3>it you then they give you the opportunity to go

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<v Speaker 3>and read what you've written. And so I tagged on

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<v Speaker 3>to the end an interview I did with Charlie who's

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<v Speaker 3>got a moder mullet. Now, a modern mullllet is you

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<v Speaker 3>know how that the old school one sort of hang

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<v Speaker 3>like I think Billy Ray Cyrus Circle, nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's sort of hanging down somewhere down between his

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder blades. A modern mullet has got it's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a sort of rather tame Mehican. So it's very tightly

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<v Speaker 3>done over the over the ears, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 3>quite a lot of hair down the back and nearly

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<v Speaker 3>as much on top, so they look slightly like an

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<v Speaker 3>alpacker on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's like the broccoli hair kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like a broccoli hair kid. But this you've also

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<v Speaker 3>got this big fluffy bit out of your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not it's not business in the front,

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<v Speaker 1>party in the back like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's business everywhere. Yeah, it's except at the sides. No,

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<v Speaker 3>side business. So I decided to write a piece about

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<v Speaker 3>the mullet because I had one. I dug out a

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<v Speaker 3>few photographs of me back in the eighties when I

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<v Speaker 3>was Charlie's age, and I've got quite long hair at

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<v Speaker 3>the back. I haven't got the sort of very short front,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not the full billy race iris thing. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got more or less the same front hair that I

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<v Speaker 3>have now, except obviously now it's a lot grayer. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all sort of hanging down the back, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what I reckon? There is something here?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I went to London a couple of days before

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote this thing, and I walked all the way

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<v Speaker 3>from South Kent from Clarkenwell to South Kensington, then from

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<v Speaker 3>South Kensington back to Liverpool Street. It's a long old way,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not going on a tube. They all smell

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<v Speaker 3>funny and they cost too much money. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to put any money into Sadiq Khn's pocket and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to walk his beautiful sort of day. So I

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<v Speaker 3>walked about and not one mullet did I see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw some fantastic sights in London, as you always do,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's so much life is all there. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>see a mullet, so this is an extremely rural thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came to the conclusion that the mullet is

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<v Speaker 3>basically a rural cry for help. It's a rural cry

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<v Speaker 3>for no, we're still blokey. We're we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>drive electric anything. We actually would rather smoke cigarettes. They're all,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, quite I mean, unreconstructed male is what I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Call them, the rural mallet counterculture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically exactly. It's a counterculture, and I likened them.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I went over into flights of fancy, saying that

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<v Speaker 3>they're exactly the same as the cavaliers under Prince Rupert

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<v Speaker 3>of the Rhine in the English Civil War, who had

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<v Speaker 3>all this flamboyant dress and flamboyant haircut. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>went and called them your big girl's blouse, you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>got your head chopped off, and that they were doing

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<v Speaker 3>that as a sticking a middle digit up at this

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<v Speaker 3>puritanism of them. And I believe there's a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a puritanism now, which if you actually see these young farmers,

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<v Speaker 3>that they are the heirs to Prince Ruper. So I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it's quite an interesting thing. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fifty fire you for something like that now. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was looking back to try and find some stuff for

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<v Speaker 3>this in my photo album, and I saw some horrendous sights.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I mean, so what did you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what were you wearing? That was crap? When

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<v Speaker 3>you were fourteen fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your mullet and you look so much like

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<v Speaker 1>your son as unbelievable. It's amazing when you get pictures

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<v Speaker 1>when you're like the same age as Charlie and you

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<v Speaker 1>look basically identical with your mullet. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you what stupid stuff did you? Were

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<v Speaker 3>you sporting callum when you were a youthful renegade.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a photographer you also get quite good at photoshop,

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was about eighteen nineteen, I was still

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<v Speaker 2>and I decided that I didn't want to because I

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<v Speaker 2>massive debt, alcohol problem remains to be seen. I then

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<v Speaker 2>to my waist. There are photos of me when I

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<v Speaker 2>joined Mountain Rescue and then I, through various reasons, I

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<v Speaker 2>quite serious news interviews. You know, I'm terribly sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>inform you that we recovered the body from this quarry

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<v Speaker 2>on this date and different things, and I'm stood there like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Chunky Jesus. I thought more like Odd needed a raven.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid he is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I had quite a boyish, girlish face. I was quite

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<v Speaker 2>youthful and had long hair, and yeah, it was all

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<v Speaker 2>it was all a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to believe it was like a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a sexy Viking kind of look. But chunky

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus and sexy Viking are very opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus. No, I was climbing then as well, so I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to stay as lean as possible because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big lad anyway, so trying to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>weight down for climbing purposes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think there's an advert in that though. Chunky

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus dot com. It's got a certain sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, adverts.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretending to be a kitchen maker at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sort of handmaking these oak kitchens for all

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<v Speaker 2>these farmhouses in the middle of nowhere at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd turn up to these quite plash farmhouses in

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<v Speaker 2>like Cheshire and Shropshire, and the guy would open the

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<v Speaker 2>door and you look at me and go, all right, fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough, Yes, let's hope your cabinets are better than your hair. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, do you know it's funny because obviously, well

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<v Speaker 3>after I left school, I went straight into the army

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<v Speaker 3>and the elaborate hairstyles were not an option within the Guards.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny enough, although this is true, they're going back to

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<v Speaker 3>the old mullet thing. When I arrived at the guard's step,

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<v Speaker 3>I was sixteen years old and I was the only

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<v Speaker 3>one to pitch up in a suit. My dad thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good idea, so he bought me a

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<v Speaker 3>double breasted, pinstriped suit, which I then pitched up. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's all these other guys who had like come from

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<v Speaker 3>South Yorkshire coal fields because there are no jobs there anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>or down from the depressed Deep South West, or a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of guys in Whales are going to the Welsh Guards.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's me in my suit and we all sort

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<v Speaker 3>of got absolutely ashen faced and scared because all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden we diss waved. Our parents could buy all

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<v Speaker 3>there and there's all of a sudden there's this man

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<v Speaker 3>who's a sort of lance corporal in the Scots Guards

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<v Speaker 3>who's bustling about and he's going, hey, he said, there's

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<v Speaker 3>too guarantees here. Anyone who's got this stupid rest bands on.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, they will not survive the guards dipple and

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<v Speaker 3>of course, as we was, aha were very popular there,

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<v Speaker 3>wristbands are and you could see the whole bust full

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<v Speaker 3>of people trying to remove these things. And he goes

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<v Speaker 3>and anyone with stupid gear haircuts, they are definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>going to survive the guard's depot. And we just met

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<v Speaker 3>this very tall Welsh guy who was going in the

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<v Speaker 3>Welsh Guards who told us, as we're all milling around

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<v Speaker 3>waiting to get ushered onto buses, that he'd had his

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<v Speaker 3>mullet permed specially to come to the guards deco. Now

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't have to do a lot of research into its,

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<v Speaker 3>like being in the army, that's to know that mullets

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<v Speaker 3>are probably not in and perming them is a waste

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<v Speaker 3>of time. And you could see this Scott's Guards going

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<v Speaker 3>and anyone with stupid hairdoos, they are definitely not And

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<v Speaker 3>he suddenly catches the sight of this seven foot tall

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<v Speaker 3>Welsh sort of bloke with a mullet and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god. And we saw him the next day

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<v Speaker 3>when we all got our haircut, you know, like in

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<v Speaker 3>good morning Vietnam and around the back of the sides

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<v Speaker 3>and leave fluffy bit on the top and I think

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<v Speaker 3>they particularly hacked him. He looked like he'd sort of

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<v Speaker 3>had the apprentice on the on the flail moa go

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<v Speaker 3>over him, and they'd had it all taken off. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I then got to Agricultural college, so another six

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<v Speaker 3>years after, so i'd then been in the army. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god. So by this point, this is why when

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<v Speaker 3>Nirvana were quite big and all that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, right, I'm going to be really cool

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<v Speaker 3>now because I was suddenly living out my late teens

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<v Speaker 3>early twenties when I was in my mid twenties, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just went stupid. But I've seen old photographs of

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<v Speaker 3>myself and I thought, at the time I looked exactly

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<v Speaker 3>like k Cobain. Well, no, I look more like No,

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<v Speaker 3>I look more like that on cocaine. No, sort of

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<v Speaker 3>Captain Pugwash. I don't know what the hell I looked like,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was it was stupid. So you know, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got layers on and checks, and when you go to

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<v Speaker 3>agricultural collegy, then it was all like you got to

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<v Speaker 3>sort of walk around looking like that you literally just

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<v Speaker 3>finished milk, and it looked more like someone had just

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<v Speaker 3>finished milking me. It wasn't wasn't a good look at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a good look. It wasn't a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>But I need to see this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, what we're going to have to do is

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<v Speaker 3>put them on our Instagram thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, you just sent you one on, just

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<v Speaker 1>sent you a couple of WhatsApp.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my Jesus, Christ, look at that with the look.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks slightly like that first one you have sent Callum.

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<v Speaker 3>If you imagine Hitler and you took his mustache shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I did get a lot of Hitler references.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know there's houses that look like Hitler where

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<v Speaker 2>they've got sort of the dorma with the dorma.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also got told I I looked like Mark Armond.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's definitely a lot of the slightly sort of

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<v Speaker 3>camp ah. Oh, yes, like he is this chunky Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't got access immediately to these things because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have half them ready to hand unless you want

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<v Speaker 3>to go on the scripud thing. And you can see

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<v Speaker 3>me with a mullet on the front of my article.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, we'll time the will time some photos to

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<v Speaker 2>come out with this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, how about yes, so rural fashions. They've never been

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<v Speaker 3>good at all in the history of mankind, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>no better now. But I have tried to excuse the

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<v Speaker 3>guys who play rugby and are into their farming today

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<v Speaker 3>with having the silly hair. Not because they're just young

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<v Speaker 3>and daft and you do stupid things with you your

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<v Speaker 3>hair and things that when you're young. It's because they're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to stick a middle finger up to the current

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<v Speaker 3>authority that they have over them. That's my excuse for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope they embrace me like a god or

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<v Speaker 3>Chunky Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Chunky Jesus. That's a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to get girls well looking like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Amy, the producer of the Countryside podcast As

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<v Speaker 4>has Become Fashion. We put out a tweet for small

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<v Speaker 4>rural businesses who wanted to describe their business part way

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<v Speaker 4>through our podcast. The following is just one of the

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<v Speaker 4>several who got in touch. This is Hannah from Esthercare.

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<v Speaker 5>My husband and I run a small rural gardening business

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<v Speaker 5>in West Suffolk. At this time of year, we are

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<v Speaker 5>predominantly planting hedges trees. We prune a lot of apple

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<v Speaker 5>trees in orchards. During the summer months, we do garden maintenance,

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<v Speaker 5>grass cutting, hedge cutting at the right time of year,

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<v Speaker 5>maintain borders. We also advise on meadows and wildflower areas.

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<v Speaker 5>So if anyone is interested in that, get in touch.

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<v Speaker 5>You can find us at stk UK on Instagram's e

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<v Speaker 5>s t a ci e UK. Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well the wonderful series The Detectorists. If you haven't seen it, it's

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<v Speaker 3>still on BBC. It's all filmed round here and that

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<v Speaker 3>captures that spit because obviously metal detecting is very popular

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<v Speaker 3>around here. A lot of people in the villages go

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<v Speaker 3>metal detecting because we've got so much land and it

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<v Speaker 3>gets turned over and off they go with their metal detectors.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so lovely watching that program because you know

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<v Speaker 3>full well that you meet all these people around here

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<v Speaker 3>who are metal detectorists and they're so bored. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit like Whendy and I was in the army and

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<v Speaker 3>people say do you watch soldier Soldier? And he goes

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<v Speaker 3>say yeah, is he like that?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>And you go and say to the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>metal detectorists, say, is detectrists like that? And they go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they got something wrong when they'll go into

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<v Speaker 3>some technical detail of one of the actual things that

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<v Speaker 3>go bleep, But most of the time you could see that. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Mackenzie Crook, who wrote this, had observed metal detectorists for

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<v Speaker 3>a long long while in released Anglia, and he got

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<v Speaker 3>it bang on, because as far as I can see,

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<v Speaker 3>they are they are exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>The village hall of tedious meetings about buttons to find

420
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<v Speaker 1>the table. I bought a metal detector from Ali Express.

421
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<v Speaker 1>It cost me about one hundred quid and it is

422
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<v Speaker 1>some of the most fun that I've had in years,

423
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just going where the field is, go up there and

424
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>find pennies up to I think I found a pound once.

425
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<v Speaker 2>That was good.

426
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:52.759
<v Speaker 3>You found a horde, didn't you.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a separate, a separate occasion. That wasn't

428
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<v Speaker 1>with a metal detector. I just found a load of

429
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<v Speaker 1>random old shillings and stuff at the bottom of a tree.

430
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:09.079
<v Speaker 1>That was quite fun. But yeah, metal detecting is one

431
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of the most It's a little bit like fishing, like

432
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the idea that you're sat next to a riverbank and

433
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:22.759
<v Speaker 1>you're looking and there's something unknown underneath and it could

434
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<v Speaker 1>be the fish you've always dreamed of. Well, metal detecting

435
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 1>has that same allure. You're going along and you're just

436
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like your brain has disengaged from absolutely any stress and worry,

437
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>your arms swinging around, and all you're thinking about is

438
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like thousands of years ago, somebody, you know, a Roman,

439
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>could be wandering around here of a big hole in

440
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 1>his pocket and he could be dropping coins from here

441
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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the next pub.

442
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<v Speaker 2>I've got a relevant book recommendation here, which is Landscapes

443
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of Detectorists, and it's a about It's written by two geographers,

444
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>so doctor Joanne norcov and in a Kieran I think

445
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Kieran Keran as how you say his name. But it's

446
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<v Speaker 2>not about the show. It's basically about all the stuff

447
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that's in the background of the show, and the geography

448
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of the area and the shape of the land, and

449
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 2>the churches and the historical uses of the land. It's

450
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>really really good. You'd like it. I'll have a look

451
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 2>at that. My friend's got a haunted metal detector.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Haunted one.

453
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<v Speaker 1>So this sounds like the setup for a perfect joke.

454
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<v Speaker 2>It does sound like it, but no, it's it's just

455
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.559
<v Speaker 2>it's a metal detector where sure is haunted because every

456
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 2>time we I've borrowed it a few times looking for

457
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.799
<v Speaker 2>old grid manholes and things out in the field on

458
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the driveway, and every time it comes, weird stuff starts

459
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 2>happening in it's sort of Poltergei's fashion in the house.

460
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>So we send the metal detector back and then it

461
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>starts happening at that my mate's house instead. So he's

462
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>got a haunted metal detector. We're fairly sure.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Did he fill it with vector plasm when he was younger?

464
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

465
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<v Speaker 3>I suppose One of the things about metal detecting those

466
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 3>is like, like you say, it's a bit like what's

467
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>it called fishing, is that you're out there and you're

468
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 3>absorbed in that thing that I find metal detectorists I

469
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 3>speak to quite a few because we see people when

470
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>we're working in a hedge. You'll suddenly see you use that,

471
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 3>And Gordie obviously goes hair courses, you know, and I go, no, No,

472
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>they're metal detectorists. You can see. And then they're going

473
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 3>across and you go over and you don't want to

474
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<v Speaker 3>say if you found anything, because I'm sure that is

475
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, the top three.

476
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 1>No, I think that's perfect.

477
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Is the thing that you're going to ask. It's a

478
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>bit like when you go to an angler, have you

479
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 3>caught much? And yeah, caught much? Mate, caught any thing? Hey?

480
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, I saw a bloke

481
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 3>and he say, no, nothing, I saw was a bloke

482
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 3>here last week. He had a thing that was that

483
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 3>big anyway. So but I like toalk to them because

484
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 3>their knowledge of the lamb, because they pour over old

485
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 3>maps and they know huge amounts about very pacific local

486
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 3>history of the spot that they're doing, far more so,

487
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to be perfectly honest, than probably a lot of the

488
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 3>people who sit in the county museums and stuff like this,

489
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 3>because they are tramping that land. They're very useful people

490
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 3>to know, because one of the things that affects my

491
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 3>job isn't just the hedge, it's the soil beneath it.

492
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>And so therefore do you chat to these old boys

493
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and they're going and beeping away out there, they are

494
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>just just mint. They give me stuff that go oh yeah,

495
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>and they'll go and give me a little piece on

496
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>locoated where you know, of course i'm walking across the

497
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 3>old line of the hedge, because that was here if

498
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 3>you look at the eighteen seventy five map this was it,

499
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>and they'll pick it up on their phone and you go, well,

500
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 3>I never and it, you know, so you're learning all

501
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. So yeah, I like them.

502
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I like them.

503
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So some of the things I found. I found a

504
00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>crow tal bell and they're frightfully old. Somewhere around they

505
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>reckon somewhere. I'm googling it, somewhere around fourteen hundred.

506
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 3>A croat or bell. So that is like a child's toy.

507
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Basically, it's just like a It's just like a bell

508
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 1>with like some little holes on the side. They're quite

509
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>they're quite distinctive, and they it's just a bell, literally,

510
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a bell, small bell or rattle with a loose clapper

511
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that makes a distinctive ringing sound.

512
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>We're not doing the loose clapper joke as well.

513
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Clapper sorry, loose clapper makes a distinctive sound. That's Kars Starmer.

514
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, a loose clapper that makes a distinctive sound.

515
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's basically what that.

516
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Right. Anyway, Listen, I want to talk about spring because

517
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you why I want to talk about spring

518
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 3>because today I got up and rather than doing proper work,

519
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>because we had all these scientists coming to go and

520
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 3>see Gualdy, I went off and took myself off with

521
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 3>this wonderful guy. We have this team of specialist naturalists

522
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 3>who come to the farm cluster and they help us

523
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 3>to count various species of various things that we have

524
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>on the farms. So we're trying to create a much

525
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 3>tighter database of what we've actually got on there, so

526
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>we can see the efficacy of the farming methods that

527
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>we've got for wildlife things like obviously we're doing with hedges.

528
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 3>How our woodland management works. You know, when you're spreading

529
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>this then across six thousand acres, that actually matters a

530
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 3>bit because you can go and see what's there and

531
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>the why. So anyway, I went out with Andrew who's

532
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 3>one of the ornithologists and he's currently doing this BTO

533
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>survey of the overwintered stubbles. What's a BTO and the

534
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Big British Trust for Allthology. So how that works is

535
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 3>that you have these very set transepts which are a

536
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 3>straight line you walk, you then go fifty yards along

537
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 3>and then walk back up the field and you just

538
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 3>go across and you basically accounting the birds that get

539
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 3>up off the stubbles. And when he first did it,

540
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 3>he also did these little quadrants of a meter to

541
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 3>see what sort of plants were there. And we do

542
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 3>count the birds that are in the hedgerows and in

543
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 3>the margins and in the cover crops and at the

544
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 3>feed rides as well to see what's there. But largely

545
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 3>it's to see what's in these stubbles, because the purpose

546
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>of it is to see We've all been told that

547
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 3>overwintered stubbles are far far better for BirdLife, particularly species

548
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 3>like you know, skylark, lap wing, etc. That you've got

549
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 3>this land that's left as stubble, overwintered, is there and

550
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 3>is not plowed, that this is better. Is now proving

551
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>that this is the case. You know, the theorist has

552
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 3>done it, now is doing it. So Andrew did this

553
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 3>and we walked up and down, and I hate to say,

554
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 3>we did not see a single skylark. I know in

555
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the next field I've been watched only a few days

556
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 3>before seven fighting away trying to establish a territory. But

557
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 3>in the fields we walked up and down, we did

558
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 3>not see one single skylark. Now, we did see quite

559
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a number of gray partridge pairs, which is a tick

560
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>in the box. We saw woodcock, We saw lots of

561
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 3>other birds in the margins, but not one skylark. But anyway,

562
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I was saying, one of the things I'm going to

563
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>be writing a series of articles for both The Critic

564
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.319
<v Speaker 3>and for Scribehound on digging down deeper into the lives

565
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 3>of specific species of moth be fly and birds of

566
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 3>course that exist on the High Suffolk farm cluster. And

567
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I said, but I don't want to go and have

568
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 3>all the gaudy ones, the ones that have got the

569
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 3>big ticks in the box everyone wants, you know, yes, okay,

570
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 3>we all know about Oh look at the red kite. Well,

571
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 3>they're mundane and dull. I want the actual ones that

572
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 3>are mundane, dull and dowdy. I said, but something is

573
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 3>a bit sort of gray and dull, but has got

574
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 3>interesting life to it. And he said to me, because

575
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 3>you want the dunnock. And I said, okay, why the

576
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>dunark And he said he goes, well, because he said,

577
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 3>the females he goes have multiple husbands and he goes

578
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're obsessed by allal sex. What you know, Yeah,

579
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>it was that's what she said. And it's something that

580
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 3>I You know, when you're stood in the middle of

581
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>a stubble field with a gentleman who's ten years older

582
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>than you, and you've just been doing trying to find

583
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 3>knight and girls and skylarks and stuff that you don't,

584
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, expect you're going to have someone saying

585
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 3>the Dunnucks sort of have this this sex life. And

586
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>he explained all about as the sex lives of dunucks,

587
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 3>and they lead quite a racy life. And as I

588
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 3>was pondering this, I sort of looked around me and

589
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I thought, yeah, actually because I sort of hairs boxing.

590
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 3>Then out in the field I went to check on

591
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 3>a hedge that had laid just for Christmas, and I

592
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 3>could see just a little nodules, those pink, tiny nodules

593
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 3>of life coming back into it. They will soon bud out,

594
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 3>and you'll have these citrus leaves of hawthorne budding out.

595
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 3>The catkins are already on the on on the hazel

596
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 3>in this laid hedge. And I thought, do you know what,

597
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I quite want to see a bit of oral sex

598
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 3>from some dunnoks. I'm looking forward to spring. This is

599
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>what I want to see, and I'd say, you know.

600
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>This has descended in a way I was not expecting.

601
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Now the female audiences is going to like this, I.

602
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Feel exactly see do you want do you want to know?

603
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Have we got time to talk about what they actually? Do?

604
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 3>You see? Because the hen?

605
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Can you be a little bit more breathy when you

606
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>do it?

607
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>The Hen Dunnock is quite a girl. What she likes

608
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>doing is that she thinks to spread the DNA of

609
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 3>her of her brood, and to ensure that she gets

610
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 3>plenty of male help when she's trying to bring up

611
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 3>her young. She doesn't just take one husband, she doesn't

612
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 3>take two. She takes at least three. And so therefore

613
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 3>she'll st pie. Yeah, it's a party at Dunnock's lady's flat,

614
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 3>and so she'll have one, and then he'll fly off,

615
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 3>and then the next one comes off, and then he

616
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 3>sticks his beak quite sort of vigorously and speedily up

617
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 3>her tail end until she ejects. She ejects a poo,

618
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 3>which he then removes with his beak, spits it out

619
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 3>because he's not weird, and then he jumps on and

620
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 3>has a go And then what does the other go at? Well,

621
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 3>he mates with her as well, so he's removed set

622
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 3>again slowly, so he's I think it's called cloacle removal,

623
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I think is what Mark now has told me about it,

624
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>because I was like, wow, this is amazing, and then

625
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 3>he said, have I not told you about this before?

626
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 3>And I thought, I think I'd remembered it if you

627
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 3>told me about or cloacle cloacle cloaca removal, you know,

628
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I would have remembered it if Mark had told me

629
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 3>about Dunnock's doing that sort of beastliness. And then another

630
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 3>one does it, and it's just basically this monk's chain

631
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>of of male Dunnock's going at this girl much to

632
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 3>her delight and pleasure. And I put this on X

633
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 3>and people show me, oh, I've seen that on my

634
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 3>bird table. They were proudly doing all. This makes all

635
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 3>these various gangs are sort of slightly perverted birders. And

636
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 3>so that's why I'm looking forward particularly to this spring.

637
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>It's not just to see my hedges come into bloom,

638
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 3>the sun once more on my face, an ending of

639
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 3>the hedge laying season, and then morphing into all my

640
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>spring and summer work. I want to see. I'm going

641
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>to take particular interest this year in the lots of

642
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 3>dunnocks that I have who live in my garden, and

643
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to watch them and shout out the window.

644
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>You go, girl at these little hen dunnacks.

645
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 2>In gorge dunark Cloaca.

646
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's nice. So, Richard, what is your springtime pleasure?

647
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Springtime leisure is like after doon delight. I really enjoyed

648
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 2>watching the days get longer. And so when I used

649
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>to do commercial foraging back, you know, I've had always

650
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>had a million jobs at the same time, and so

651
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I used to pick plants and send them to Hong

652
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Kong and all over the place, and you had to

653
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>really be on it for what species were starting to

654
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>come up. Because once you start seeing the hour and

655
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>leaves in the hedge, then you go, all right, the

656
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>wild garlic is going to be ready down in the

657
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>in the valley or wherever, and you can really map

658
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>that per year. Some years you get really early springs,

659
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.159
<v Speaker 2>some you get really late springs. I think last year

660
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was quite a late spring from memory, whereas this year

661
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be early, but actually

662
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it's been. It's been quite cold. It's like six degrees

663
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>every day, so it's it's going to be a while

664
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 2>before things start to grow again and all the buds

665
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of pause, so we might have another late spring. But

666
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I've got a weird thing I do. You know, you

667
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>get these on your phone's there's always an app that

668
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 2>tells you that stores your photos for you, and it

669
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>sends you a little things saying on this day you

670
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>were doing this, or on you know, memories from a

671
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 2>year ago, or I love that.

672
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Half the time, I only take pictures just because I

673
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>want to know what this is in two years time.

674
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I did have one once, which was on

675
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>this day you were burying a horse in the backfield.

676
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sort of specify, you know, you know, whether

677
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a good memory or a bad memory. But I

678
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I like going back a year or two years and saying, okay,

679
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>what was what were the hedges looking like in mid

680
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>February last year and the year before and the year before,

681
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and you can sort of it's like it's like a

682
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>pre event trailer almost. You can see Okay, yes, and

683
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>that's when the hazel buds are going to start coming out.

684
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I've got six weeks, I've got two weeks I've got

685
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 2>one week and I like watching that slow drip of

686
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>stuff happening. And there's a quote from and I get

687
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>to it's from Chunky Outdoor Fun. Stir Ray mears that

688
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 2>standing in the standing in a woodland in late winter

689
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>is like standing in the Albert Hall before an event.

690
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>About forty five minutes before everyone starts warming up for

691
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the the orchestra starts warming up. You know something big

692
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 2>is about to happen. It's going to happen in this place,

693
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>but it's not it's not ready yet. And that is

694
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of what I feel when I go into the

695
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 2>woods at the moment, is like everything's getting ready to happen,

696
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's not happening yet. So that's what I'm looking

697
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 2>forward to, is just watching every week. At some point

698
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>you'll hit something where every week something new is appearing

699
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>in the hedge, appearing in the trees. There's a new leaf,

700
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 2>there's a new flower. Because I'm a plant pervert, like

701
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the BT of bird perverts, I'm a plant pervert.

702
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 1>What's the first thing to look forward to? Obviously we've

703
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 1>had this wild garlic. What's the what's next on the agenda?

704
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the well garlic just gets better and better

705
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

706
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 2>But hawthorn leaves, for what incredible for a start, they

707
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>taste really good.

708
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you eat those? Just just as is?

709
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>You can graze on them like a like a giraffe

710
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>if you wanted.

711
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Bread and bread and cheese. Is that it's one of

712
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 3>its names?

713
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's they're really good. So there's a

714
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a Missus Beaten recipe, but it's like

715
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>it's may pudding, which is fatty sewity pastry rolled out flat.

716
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>You put strips of bacon down, interested big handful of

717
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 2>hawthorn leaves on the top. You roll it up like

718
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a big gem rolypolium, bake it really Yeah. So hawthorn

719
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 2>is May as in the mayflower. Yeah, and May May

720
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>queen and everything like that. And okay, here's my pervert thing.

721
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>There are there's a chemical present in hawthorn flowers, which

722
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>is also well, it's present in the human body. It's

723
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the smell of a decomposing corpse, or it's part of

724
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>the cocktail of smell there. It's also the smell of sex,

725
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and it is it is the smell of sex. So

726
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>hawthorn is the shrub of death and sex. And I

727
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 2>love saying this on foraging courses when I have an

728
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>array of mid sixties quite genteel women in front of

729
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>me and saying, right, smell this hawthorn flower. What does

730
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 2>that make you think of?

731
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Aha?

732
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I gradually sort of drip it in as like, well,

733
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's both ends of the life cycle there,

734
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>it's the act that creates life and it's yeah, it's

735
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>so that's one of the theories about why. You know, it's

736
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the May Queen and the May Festival is a pagan

737
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>festival as a pre Christian festival, and most pagan pre

738
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Christian things are all to do with it's the sacred feminine. Yeah, sex,

739
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it's the birth. It's it's the act of birth. It's

740
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the act of the act of giving life. So hawthorn

741
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>is a good one. Hawthorn flowers because you can eat

742
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the well, you can eat the leaves, and then the

743
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>flowers you can crystallize and then they turn into fruit

744
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and then you can do stuff with them. In the autumn.

745
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go and pick some hawthorn leaves are

746
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 2>really good.

747
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 3>They are there, are fun. Then they change color so beautifully.

748
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 3>You know when they first come out. There is nothing

749
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 3>nothing more beautiful of how they change that color of

750
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 3>of of leaf. I've got tattooed on my arm, a

751
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.480
<v Speaker 3>hedge atopped by a yellowhammer, and I have got in

752
00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:00.039
<v Speaker 3>there hawthorn leaves, hazel leaves and maple leaves, and the

753
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 3>tattoo artist has taken artistic license in putting both them

754
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 3>in spring and summer hue, and also the berries in

755
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 3>which I let him do because it's sort of you know,

756
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>it's tattooed on my arm. It's not real life. And

757
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 3>although it did feel like bloody the end of my life,

758
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 3>to be perfectly honest, never get a tattoo done when

759
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.760
<v Speaker 3>you're in your fifties. That's my suggestion too.

760
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>It's too late.

761
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, it hurts much more.

762
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 3>I had one done when I was a young soldier

763
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and it was that's all right. I don't know, but

764
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 3>that was oh man. And I'm sat around with all

765
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 3>these young people getting sort of stuff done, and they're

766
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>sort of all these young dads who are getting they're

767
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.519
<v Speaker 3>perfect photo representation of their child on their arm, and

768
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 3>they're going, what you're getting done, mate, I'm getting a

769
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 3>hedge done with a yellowhammer on top and they go, Okay,

770
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I thank you.

771
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>We're all here for something something.

772
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why he's here, and I wish go away.

773
00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly.

774
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 3>His smells of sex now, yeah, he's getting an I

775
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 3>don't feel it's.

776
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 1>So bad about getting the pitball and the Guele's cross now.

777
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Is exactly calus, what do you look forward to in spring?

778
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>What I'm looking forward to in spring is just not

779
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 1>being so just depressing at the moment, Like every February,

780
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I January's usually like a rough month for most people.

781
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 1>But and I know it's getting a bit lighter, but

782
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the boy gets home from school, he's absolutely knackered. We've

783
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>got like an hour of light. After he's back home

784
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and we sorted some stuff out. He don't really want

785
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to be going out trudging through mud and horrible stuff

786
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 1>and getting him changed into all the wet weather gear

787
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to get out because everywhere at the moment is completely soaked.

788
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't, I can't. I mean, I've got to get

789
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the dog back. The dog's got to be washed off,

790
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole lot, the whole admin process of going out.

791
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just really hard. And when when it gets a

792
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit drier, it gets light an hour later, everything

793
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 1>will just be so much easier and so much better

794
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>because at the moment the routine is just like I

795
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>just need to finish work early and try and cram

796
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 1>a dog walk in and not get too muddy in

797
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 1>a short period of time. So just having a bit

798
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 1>of a bit of life back, you know, a bit

799
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>of slightly warmer, get some good fishing in, get maybe

800
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a blast at the end of the season, try and

801
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>try and catch a few chub or something down the river.

802
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 3>So when does the when does the river season end?

803
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Officially? Did he just laugh at chubbed down the river?

804
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Laugh at chop down there? Yeah?

805
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you know? On the seen as this is the

806
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 1>accidental sex episode. The hashtag chub is also used by

807
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 1>gay men. So when I used to post on Instagram

808
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 1>in the early days with the hashtag chub, I used

809
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to get lots of fat gay men like my photos

810
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking, what is that. I think they're

811
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>called bears in the technical.

812
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Term, we are called bears.

813
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you do look like you could be a bear.

814
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I've been told there is a place for me if

815
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I ever decided to go that way, and I'm quite

816
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 2>welcome in that community. Thank you.

817
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I tell you what I've got the top trumps. You

818
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 3>know when your lovely little puppy who is now an

819
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>adult dog, when that litter was born. I had never

820
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 3>read a litter of cocker spaniels before, so I just

821
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to look into true story. I googled all right,

822
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 3>docking cockers. Yes.

823
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

824
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 3>For some reason, the auto correct took the E, R

825
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and S off the back.

826
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Of this is the story you tell Claire, Yet.

827
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 3>No, trust me. I saw thing.

828
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I slipped in the shower onto the shampoob, yes, exactly, honestly.

829
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 1>And the toilet rush went.

830
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 3>What a bizarre thing. I didn't even know this thing

831
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 3>was possible. I did not know that was I and

832
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>it was so strange.

833
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Please, I know what this is.

834
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Please do not don't you do that. So, if you

835
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 3>are looking into docking cocker spanuels tails and how you

836
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>go about it, I suggest that you type into your

837
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Google search engine very precisely and ensure that you don't

838
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 3>have auto correct set up on your mobile phone when

839
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 3>you do it, so that you can go and get

840
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 3>the full docking working cocker spaniels process of right, not

841
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 3>docking workers, docking cockers. No, it was bloody dangerous.

842
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 2>If you're listening to this and you don't know what

843
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.400
<v Speaker 2>docking is, good steak, yes, don't stick. Keep it that way.

844
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>This is podcast world stuff. But often because you get

845
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:12.719
<v Speaker 2>sponsored in different ways, and one of the ways you

846
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 2>get sponsored is you do an ad read the beginning

847
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>of the episode or part way in, and you get

848
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 2>paid for doing the read and you have to do it.

849
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, if we were doing one, we would have

850
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to be the three of us doing it to one

851
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 2>of us doing it. And sex toys and stuff like

852
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that are often one of the ones that are Often

853
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of people's first sponsor because it's very

854
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 2>difficult for that industry to get placement on big podcasts,

855
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>on big name stuff. But when people are starting out

856
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 2>then just reaching the point where they are worth sponsoring,

857
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>as we are now, Hello, there are quite a good hit.

858
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 2>So they'll take your money from the sex industry or

859
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the sex toy industry and you'll read it out on

860
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>their show.

861
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Richie, can you just say this episode is in your

862
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>sexy voice. This episode's brought to you by love Honey.

863
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Use the code bill hook ten your first order.

864
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Let's get this back on track. Look I'm far too

865
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 3>middle aged.

866
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>The track is a distance, there.

867
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Is no track, There was never a track.

868
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I think there is a track to this. I think

869
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a track because what we've been talking about, other

870
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 3>than mullets is spring, and I think there is something

871
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>about spring. Richard was saying about how there is this

872
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 3>pagan connotation, the whole thing about you know, new life

873
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and that sort of stuff. I think we all get

874
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 3>slightly giddy. Obviously Dunnucks, do you know they're taking two

875
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 3>out of Lady Dunuck's bottoms and you know, But I

876
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 3>think that there is something where we all go slightly funny,

877
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 3>and possibly that is the spring in the air has

878
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 3>encouraged us, you know, because we don't have a script

879
00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 3>on this show to suddenly just go slightly smutty. So

880
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that's that's It's either that or it's just the thought

881
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 3>of Dunnucks. It could be that. Perhaps it's the thought

882
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 3>of mullets. I don't know, but I think it's probably

883
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 3>the Dunucks that have done it. And I'm not advertising

884
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 3>sex toys and that's it, and there's there's no no

885
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 3>two ways about it. I'm not going to do that.

886
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 3>That's not up my Strasa.

887
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>If Colin Nets want to do an ad though, we'll

888
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 2>do that.

889
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, now you see, I'd be quite happy to

890
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 3>go and do that. Do you know Colin's Nets? Bless

891
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 3>them every single gonna No, I am, because it's a

892
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>great thing. I actually wrote it as a story once

893
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>in the Shooting Times the every year.

894
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't even really know. I know they

895
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.599
<v Speaker 1>see them add for them every now and again in

896
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the back of things, but I don't know what they do.

897
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Game keeping surprise they down indorse It. They started out

898
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 3>making nets, so fishing nets, fishing nets, ferreting nets, that

899
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>sort of stuff, and then so that was their large

900
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>thing that they were a net maker down indoors Bridport

901
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 3>in Dorset. And they then started expanding out more into

902
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>the sort of gamekeeping supplies. So we're talking the sort

903
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 3>of feeders, the nets that you put.

904
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Up for release pens, all the sorts of stuff the

905
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 6>professional rears of game birds and producers of game birds

906
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 6>and gamekeepers will need.

907
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>And they are an excellent bunch of eggs and I

908
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 3>really like them. There are sort of you know that

909
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 3>they're one of them firms that you ring them up

910
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 3>and they'll go I remember buying a lot of mul

911
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 3>traps off them, and they went, take some of these

912
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 3>as well, Rich and go and see what you think

913
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 3>of them, because we're not too sure if they're that

914
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 3>much cop and then give me a report back. And

915
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 3>so I did. And you know, anyway, they every year

916
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 3>produce flankers flags, you know, for beating, and they produce

917
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 3>these pink ones which they donate money to or you

918
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 3>always used to one of the major cancer charities. And

919
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 3>one of the these major cancer charities are hastened to

920
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 3>add the then Prince of Wales, now his majesty the

921
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>King was the patron of said to them, we don't

922
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 3>want your money because it's to do with shooting and

923
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 3>we don't think that goes with our ethos. And they went, hey,

924
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 3>what you know, what we're doing is that we're giving

925
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you eighty percent of our profit off of these beaters

926
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 3>flags and we're painting them pink. We're giving them to you.

927
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 3>And they wouldn't take it. So they rang me up

928
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.519
<v Speaker 3>and I sent a little message through to via a

929
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 3>route that I had to the said now King and

930
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 3>they said, oh, yes, we will take it. By by

931
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 3>which point Colin's Nets basically said bollocks to you, and

932
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>they went to a lot smaller charity who said, thank

933
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 3>you very much. We're only talking a few hundred quid

934
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 3>or one thousand pounds something like that. But I thought,

935
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 3>how bloody petty can you be that you go and say,

936
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 3>oh no, I don't want to take your money because

937
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.280
<v Speaker 3>you've got something to do with shoot, when some poor

938
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 3>sod might just have got over cancer because that extra

939
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.440
<v Speaker 3>thousand pounds that Colin's Nets had given them had just

940
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>made that breakthrough bit of research. And you know, it

941
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 3>was almost thinking. But anyway, I like Colin's Nets and

942
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they'll now sponsor us after that glowing report.

943
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Well we can get a country slide beater's flag.

944
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, with chunky Jesus on one side and Spaniels asked

945
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Crisps on the other'd be perfect. Who wouldn't want to

946
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 3>be seen in the countryside waving one of those over

947
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 3>there heads?

948
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Remember episode one where we said that it would slowly descend.

949
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 1>I think we're there. I've got places to go to yet,

950
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>we're not quite at the bottom of the slide. But

951
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we get no.

952
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Look, we're raising the tone next week, can't we because

953
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 3>we've got guests.

954
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we have got a guest, and we can't talk

955
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 2>about the time I was naked on national TV.

956
00:52:58.920 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh I think we can.

957
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 2>So there is an episode of How to Look Good

958
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Naked out there that features me.

959
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Swell line.

960
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Never not on my own, but it was when I

961
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>was with a mountain rescue team and about half a

962
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 2>dozen of us from the team, we all stripped off

963
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 2>for a group photo somewhere on the side of a

964
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 2>mountain wells. So we went out for the day with Cockwan,

965
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:31.800
<v Speaker 2>and because we were a bunch of young, disreputable, unprofessional types,

966
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 2>we kidnapped Coqwan and threw him in the back of

967
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a mountain rescue landrover and drove off. And it was

968
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of heart the fake kidnapping him. And then about

969
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>half an hour later, when the producer hadn't heard from us,

970
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>was started to be more and more phone calls and

971
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 2>then a radio call and can you please bring back

972
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Coqwan in his Versati wellies, VERSACEI wellies and Harie pants.

973
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between fake kidnap and real kidnap?

974
00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a blurred line. After about ten minutes.

975
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Did take someone against their will by the sound of it, A.

976
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Little bit, a little bit take it in good part.

977
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 3>He looks like he'd be up for a laugh.

978
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.280
<v Speaker 2>He was good, he smells amazing.

979
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Well he used he used to be fat, didn't he?

980
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 1>So I should imagine kidnapping one would be a piece

981
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of cake.

982
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And he was telling me a really good, really good

983
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:20.599
<v Speaker 2>way of cushing.

984
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 1>We'd always get one of those him, would we.

985
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think that's probably a good place to end.

986
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.079
<v Speaker 3>I want to know where go Quan is now because

987
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to have him as a guest on the podcast,

988
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.280
<v Speaker 3>because I think, well, I would like to a reunite

989
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 3>him with these chunky Jesus who kidnapped him on a

990
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 3>Welsh mountain and saved him from snakes. But also what

991
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to know is some of his views on

992
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, the best techniques for preventing deer browsing on coppice,

993
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff. Ask him questions that he has

994
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 3>no idea because he's not been in the public eye

995
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:00.679
<v Speaker 3>for quite a long while, and.

996
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 1>How to dress for a driven day, how to.

997
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Dress for a driven day if you got kwang, you

998
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.079
<v Speaker 3>know that sort of stuff is bring him back to fame.

999
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I want him back in the in the limelight and

1000
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>as the number one rural podcast official now in the UK.

1001
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.760
<v Speaker 3>We may attract him on and with the allure of

1002
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 3>of Richard as well, with those halcyon memories he's got

1003
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 3>of being bundled in the back of a ten Land. Yeah, yeah,

1004
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 3>good times, good times anyway on that another good times.

1005
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.039
<v Speaker 3>I suppose we want to go really now because.

1006
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.519
<v Speaker 2>We've been long. We've got an extra bit to do

1007
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>at the so we're we're releasing this on Friday at

1008
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 2>six pm.

1009
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>So calm, we've just had a really fun day at

1010
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the British Shooting.

1011
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Show, or we've been kicked out.

1012
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 1>We've just had a terrible day at the British Shooting Show.

1013
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 2>And there might be extra content coming out as an

1014
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.679
<v Speaker 2>extra special episode in between this one and next week's

1015
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>proper episode, which is with Andy Dodson, where we're talking

1016
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 2>about well, we're talking about thatching. Are we talking about reads?

1017
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Both reads? It's it's sort of I suppose from the

1018
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:14.000
<v Speaker 3>red to the roof. That's quite good. I just made

1019
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:14.960
<v Speaker 3>that up off of the hoof.

1020
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 2>That's quite good. You can't stop.

1021
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 3>That's why they pay me the big bucks. To write

1022
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.239
<v Speaker 3>for all these smart magazines. You know, it just rolls

1023
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 3>off my tongue and then onto my fingers.

1024
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 2>That's the cloacer again.

1025
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the Cloacre's bloody dumas everywhere.

1026
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 2>And on that note, and we're going to go thank

1027
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you everyone for listening, thank you for all the reviews,

1028
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 2>thank you for the new listeners, and all the new

1029
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 2>people who got in touch. And we've had quite a

1030
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>few people emailing as saying what the show means to them,

1031
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 2>which genuinely is touching. We don't quite know how to

1032
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 2>deal with that because we're three blokes and we're we're

1033
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>not really good at that kind of thing, or at

1034
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 2>least two of us aren't. At Callum's a sensitive one, yeah,

1035
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I cried. He's the emotional, emotionally intelligent one.

1036
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Richard, I'm the slightly steely one. You know, if we

1037
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 3>were one of those nineteen seventies sort of detective series,

1038
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.840
<v Speaker 3>a right, Callum would be the quirky one who solves

1039
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>it in the end by a roundabout way. Richard be

1040
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 3>the one who smashes the doors in, and I would

1041
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 3>be just slightly steely aloof one who barely.

1042
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Utters a word, just one more thing.

1043
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<v Speaker 3>This is yes, that's it, that's that's exactly that. But

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be your catchphrase. Just one more thing, missus. That

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<v Speaker 3>would be a callum's catchphrase. Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, someone said they heard some weird stuff at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>What what weird stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the end of the last episode, they said

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<v Speaker 1>they heard some really strange stuff the last few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, fever Dream.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't trust what you hear on the internet. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Right bye everyone, Bye, mm hmm.
