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Our guest today are some of the best reporters and

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editors in the business. I know firsthand. I have the

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great pleasure and I have the great honor of working

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with them. Federalist Executive Editor Joy Pullman, writer and Federalist

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Radio Hour producer Extraordinaire Jordan Boyd, and Federalist Editor Extraordinaire

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Joshua Montington, or Bonesy as we like to call him. Today,

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we'll figure out why we call him Bonesy, and we'll

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discuss the year that was and what a year it was.

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It began with a bang and the explosions kept coming.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us in this edition

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of the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. Yeah, thank great to talk with

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you all. The time, and I love listening to your voice.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, as you know, my contract stipulates that this

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is audio only because I have a face for radio. Again,

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just an extraordinary year. I want to go around the table,

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and I want to start off by asking this question,

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because you guys have written a lot of stories, edited

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a lot of stories, seen a lot of stories, read

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a lot of stories. What do you think think was

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the most impactful story of twenty twenty five? Joy, I'll

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Speaker 4: Well, it's hard for me to pick number ones because

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there's so many top things. So I will kind of

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punt on that by picking several of them, and I'm

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sure other people will have other things to add.

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Speaker 3: So I think one of the big.

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Speaker 4: Stories of the year that kind of feels very far

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in the rearview mirrors is the whole.

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Speaker 3: First hundred days of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: You know, that was really its own season and really

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a major part of the year, you know, in terms

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of news, in terms of political effects and so forth.

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I also think, obviously the immigration sort of policy in

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the first I mean, having a closed border to illegal

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immigration and the first time really almost in my lifetime,

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is really consequential and there's a lot under the hood there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those those probably would be some of my

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Speaker 4: I also for me, I'm personally extremely interested in the

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Arctic cross sorts of things. I think they do have

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some ties in with Spygate, and so that's kind of

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a whole connected ball of wax with the FBI, you know,

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and d OJ corruption, with the kind of struggles you

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know that have been going on mostly under the scenes,

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you know, but you're seeing like little elbows and feet

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pick up, you know, poke out here and there from

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under the rug with whatever is happening under the hood.

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They're obviously Dan Bongino announced, you know, he's going to

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be leaving from there at the turn of the year.

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label that, you know, deep state, you know, Intel agency,

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sort of machination, whatever you label you give that, that

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kind of whole ball of wax continues to be extremely important.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, we've known about the corruption for some time.

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As a matter of fact, the Federalist had this year

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and we're proud to say won an award for the

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Russia hoax collusion report. Over years and years won the

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Dow Award the prestigious Dow Award, and I think what

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we're seeing now, Joy is the potential. We're not there yet,

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in fact, I feel sometimes I feel we're farther and

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farther away from it. But we have the potential of

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holding deep staters accountable. And I think that was part

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of the big story that came out of Arctic Frost

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and some of these other.

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Speaker 4: Invests James Comy right and kind of really grasping it.

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Efforts to hold anybody at all accountable. We're still really

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waiting on really any preventative enforcement having strongly occurred, really literally,

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you know, against having an intel state coup of the

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electoral process for the presidency, and who knows how far

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that extends. Obviously Arctic Cross, we're talking about election interference

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much broader than just the presidency at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, scary stuff. And if we don't get this thing

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able to hold people accountable for this. Jordan, what to

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you was the most impactful year? You did a lot

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of reporting, of course on life issues, and let's face it,

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it all begins there life liberty and the pursuit of happiness,

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Speaker 5: With life, absolutely, And I think going all the way back,

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that to be a very pivotal moment. I think it

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only pull into the center when it's politically convenient. But

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the weaponization of the Biden Justice Department, but also wipe

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it out and restructure and really try and fix this

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two tiered system of justice. And like Joy was saying,

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and Trump committing to it is something that people can

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now hold him to because he did these pardons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And I think about twenty twenty five where we began. Remember,

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work and exhausting twenty twenty four. So much happened, so

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much was at stake, and obviously it ended for conservatives

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with huge, sweeping victories that were so critical to get

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to twenty twenty five. And then we thought, well, may

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we're here. We made it through twenty twenty four, and

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about in the the you know, the opening one hundred days,

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as Joy had mentioned, flooding the zone. That was the

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term that everyone liked to use about just how energetic

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and it seemed so such a departure, of course from

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the auto pen presidency of Joe Biden, but just how

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energetic the first one hundred days and this this entire

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first year of the Trump administration. I just wanted to

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get your thoughts, Jordan, on that pace that the Trump

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administration set and of course how dizzying that was to

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the left and the accomplice media.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, I think there was a lot going on,

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and what we saw, especially at the beginning of the

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year was sort of corporate media and Democrats sitting there stunned,

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still trying to process the end of twenty twenty four.

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the sort of movement for the Trump administration and for

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media on the right to seize, which the corporate media

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loved to use that as you know, the right seized

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on this moment to do something that we don't like.

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life issue. You know, we've seen a lot of activity

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or buzz around the miff at pristone stuff, the abortion

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pill and immigration and you know ice enforcement there and

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then of course this rise of left being violence which

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culminated in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But yes, more

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work to do, but a lot going on, and I

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stun silence, and it was kind of refreshing.

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Speaker 1: It was very refreshing to see these smug members of

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the corporate media and you know, the Democrats who held

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sway for so long and really pushed this country in

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the worst direction that you can imagine, Joshua, you have

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read a lot of stories in twenty twenty five, you

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have edited a lot of stories. You have done the

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lord's work in prettying up our copy, and we appreciate

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that immensely. What do you see as the most impactful

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story of twenty five?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously I've covered a lot of ground at the Federalist,

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and as you said, there have been many, many important stories.

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To me, the biggest story, hands down, is the assassination

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of Charlie Kirk. What that means about the state of

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our country, what it means for the future of the

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conservative movement. I think the conservative movement and in fact,

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the country breathed the sigh of relief when Trump escaped

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the assassin's bullet by God's grace in Butler, Pennsylvania. Your

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letter escaped a second assassination attempt, and I think some

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of so. I remember watching Charlie's podcast on election night

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when it was clear that Trump had won.

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Speaker 2: He was brought nearly to tears.

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Speaker 6: He said it was all God's grace, but he had

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Speaker 2: Work in his organization and its efforts.

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Speaker 6: At turning point, we're a huge factor in Trump winning

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the White House, and so to see Charlie Kirk assassinated

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as he's on campus, as he interacting with young people,

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we've covered, which is left wing political violence, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Yourself did a.

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identified left to say killing Trump is justifiable.

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Speaker 2: We had the Jay Jones texts where he was wishing.

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Speaker 6: Death upon his political opponents and their children and saying

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his political opponents were worse than Hitler and Poulpot.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's the biggest story of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Charlie Kirk assassination was as heartbreaking as it

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was breathtaking. There he is this young conservative icon, young

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caught forever at that young age, assassinated in front of

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his two young children and his wife, and it really

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drove home exactly what you just talked about the violence

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of the left. We're going to get into twenty twenty

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six and what's ahead. But let's jump a little bit

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because I'm sad to believe that I know the answer

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will as we head into the midterm elections, the violence

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of the left grow more intense. From what you are

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Speaker 2: Think, unfortunately, the answer is yes.

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Speaker 6: A lot will say that, you know, not everyone on

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the left is violent, and that's true, but the movement

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and the ideology foster violence, encourage violence.

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Speaker 2: The media continue to accuse, accuse many on.

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Speaker 6: The right, even Charlie Kirk after his death, of racism,

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of being Nazis, which are sort of seen as the

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pinnacle of evil in our culture. And obviously if those

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things are true, that would be terrible. But the people

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on the right, generally speaking, are you know, we're not

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Nazis and racists and these slanders do lead to violence,

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and I think the administration Trump administration has talked about

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dealing with Antifa, but we.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen.

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Speaker 6: Necessarily a full flight effort to take them down, and

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we haven't seen the results. So unfortunately, I think because

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of the underlying leftist ideology that now is in the

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driver's seat of the movement, we are going to continue

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to see left wing political violence Swie.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the fascistizing of everyone from

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the left Everyone is a fascist, everyone they don't agree

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with is a fascist or a Nazi. What does that

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do to those terms? And I think about that, especially

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in a year where we have seen so much anti

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semitism in this country and the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it cheapens the terms, right.

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Speaker 4: So I actually have a personal interest in the Holocaust

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in World War Two. My grandfather was a fighter pilot

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in World War Two. I have Polish ancestry, you know.

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about Gulag Archipelago Eli Visel's Night, you know, so looking

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Speaker 3: As victims of communism and victims of fascism.

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Speaker 4: So that's something that I have been reading up about

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just personally and intellectually. And I do think Joshua's absolutely

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right that they're not only is leftist ideology pro violence,

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supreme being who sets the standards for what is right

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and wrong, and they are willing to and they so

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all that's left to them really is power for its

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own sake, for the ability of them to wield it,

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and so they're willing to do anything to get that,

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especially if you don't believe that a god is going

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to punish you for murdering, for doing other evil things.

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curbing the natural human lust for violence and destruction and

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hurting other people when you don't get your way.

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Speaker 4: I think that's inherent to the you know, like the

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leftist ideology. And the other part of that is, as

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political violence from the left, and we have very very

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strong public you know, deterrence to any sort of political

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violence from allegedly the right.

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and all that. You know, I'm aware that a lot

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Speaker 4: Manufactured, but you know the amount of efforts spent, you know,

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kind of shutting down and investigating and embedding you know,

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federal informants and so forth, with people on the right.

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of combating that, you know, against the left wing violence

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right we have you know, there's these suspicious you know,

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transgender murders for example, not a lot really coming out

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some coordination or a backward around network essentially a terrorist

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not clear indication that our FBI really is focused on that,

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you know, and is really getting some good information out

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preventing these sorts of you know, acts from happening. So

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the fascist and Nazi language is that basically, you know,

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as as we're pointing out, it legitimizes you know, acts

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of terror and violence either from the state when leftists

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Speaker 3: They are not able to use police and the military to.

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Speaker 4: End the Department the enforcers of the Department of Justice

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to kind of go after the left's enemies.

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Speaker 1: I think about as you mentioned, joy, the the leftist

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and the accomplished media treatment of January sixth, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 5: The.

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Speaker 1: Throwing under the carpet in the ignoring of the violence

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directed at conservatives and members of the right. Maybe that

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is their idea of equity in comparison. I'm not sure,

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but Jordan, I was going to ask you. You cover a

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lot of faith issues. We mentioned Charlie Kirk, We mentioned

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these violent times. What we saw in the wake of

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Charlie Kirk's assassination was both trying very sad from the left.

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Their response to that, their hatred and again they're more

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violent rhetoric. But we also saw something that I don't

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turning away from the flesh and toward the spirit. A

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lot of people saw this watershed moment in American life,

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American culture, and they said that there is an emptiness

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here and I want to fill it with the right things.

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I'm turning to God. What do you think about all

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of that?

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how many people tuned into that was really incredible, And

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where they saw that Charlie was this figure on the

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conservative right and they recognize his accomplishments there, but more importantly,

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a lot of people saw that he was a good

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and faithful servant and that he ran his race well.

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that we can't continue to ignore, especially on the right.

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Is this Christian foundation and the Christian principles that really

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shape not only who we are but where we're going.

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fundamental conversations coming up about the policies that drive us,

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what makes us a Christian nation. All of that is

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encompassed here. And I think it's one of those things,

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once again, kind of like the life issues, it's easy

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to parse out. I mean, you put on the side

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or just assume we're all on the same page about

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but we're not. And it's more increasingly evident now than

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ever that there's a spiritual war going on here. There

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is good and evil, and the effort to dirty the

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water there. To muddy the water and not show what

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is good is good and what is evil is evil

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is very concerning and I think especially for truth tellers

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like us at the Federalist, it's just very important that

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the truth ring clear here now because the effort to

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disguise it to soley it is stronger than ever.

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Speaker 7: Could this latest jobs report be an election decider who

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watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every

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economy and how it affects your wallet. New jobs reports

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show that numbers fell way below expectations and small businesses

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are laying people off. The real job engine is companies

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that are less than five years old. Whether it's happening

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in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 2: Be informed.

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Speaker 7: Check out the Watchout on Wall Street podcast with Chris

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Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Our guest today are some of the best reporters and

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editors in the business. Over the last twenty minutes or so,

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you've heard why I say that Federalist Executive editor Joy Pullman,

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staff writer and Federalist Radio Hour producer Jordan Boyd and

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Federalist editor Joshua Mining, or Bones as we like to

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call him. Perhaps we'll get an answer to that nickname

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coming up a little bit later on in the episode.

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But Joshu, I want to turn to you to begin

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our segment on the most interesting story of the year. Now,

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that could be the you know, the most impactful story.

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Oftentimes it is not, though we have seen a lot

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of interesting stories in these extremely interesting times. What say you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so hard to choose, and I'm probably going to

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pull a couple of different stories together, but I think

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it there's a number of things that sort of come

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back to young men, and specifically young men becoming more conservative.

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I think during the first one hundred days of the administration,

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there was an excitement, there was a sense of anticipation.

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Speaker 2: There was talking about, you know, retaking control of the.

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Speaker 6: Panamacamanal and becoming heavily invested or somehow taking control of greenland,

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so evoking these ideas of.

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Speaker 2: Exploration and expansion. And then Elon Musk was, you know,

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coming into the White House. He was going to fix government.

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Speaker 6: With those but there was this theme of like building

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things and progress and accomplishing big things, things that people

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would would think would be impossible, And I think that

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really appeals to young men. And we've seen this shift

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where young men have become more conservative sort of The

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sort of downside concerning aspect of it is that young

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women haven't necessarily followed, And so we're seeing where young

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men are considering marriage more desirable than women would consider it.

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They want to have children, women young women maybe not

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so much. So a big question is how do we

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bridge that gap in things like the US in all

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new low infertility rate really makes that a pressing question.

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Speaker 2: So I think if we.

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Speaker 6: Are going to see our America, our country continue to

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make a comeback, I think a lot of that's going

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to have to do with young men and the strength

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and the energy that they bring to the table. So

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I think it'll be interesting to see how that story

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progresses in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a fascinating story and I am

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very interested to see how it progresses. But do you

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think some of this we know some of this what

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happened in twenty twenty four with young men coming out

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in droves to vote for Trump and the MAGA movement.

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They have been let's face it, disenfranchised from their country

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in so many ways by the leftist movement, which ties

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into the decades upon decades of leftist indoctrination. And I think,

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quite frankly, that's why we have the issue that you

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mentioned with young women. We have so many young women

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who have absolutely bought into this indoctrination and as you know,

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instead of thinking about families and raising children, they're you know,

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living alone with cats, and so you know, you're right.

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I mean, this is this is a very seminal moment

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for the future of this country. Where do you think

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it's going to go? Because sustain that's been a problem.

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Speaker 6: Right, So there's sort of three trajectories that you might anticipate.

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there's been this discrimination against young men. There was a

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whole lot of discussion about a compact magazine Arcle recently.

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I think jd Vance tweeted about it. But basically where

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young white men specifically, we're discriminated against unemployment settings where

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they weren't able to get jobs that they ordinarily would

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have been able to get because employers immersed.

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Speaker 2: In dei ideology.

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Speaker 6: We're looking for everything, but a white male and that's frustrating.

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is sort of this me too movement inspired ideology where

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everything about young men, their masculinity, their energy, their willingness

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to struggle and argue, and everything about young men has

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sort of been attacked in our culture. And so young

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men can either become sort of lazy and disillusioned and

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maybe lived in their parents' basement because it's too hard

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to get a job and they just play video games,

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where they can become frustrated. They can sort of become

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anti a female and just be angry at all women,

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or there's sort of the Christian path, where it's like, Okay,

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there is discrimination, there's adversity. How can I respond in

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a way that still is honoring to God, advances culture,

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honors country, and yes, look for political solutions to these problems,

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but also take individual responsibility and do all that I

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Speaker 1: Joey Joshua had mentioned a very interesting story, a compelling

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story that dominated a lot of the headlines this year,

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and that was DOGE, you know, the Department of Government Efficiency.

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Elon Musk coming in and saying we're going to save

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taxpayers all this money because we're going to deal with

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all the waste, fraud, and abuse in government. I want

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to add Skew along with your most Interesting Story, because

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I personally think that's a very interesting story. I would

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rate that as my most interesting story. But was the

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Doge effort a success or failure or is it too

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early to write, you know, the final chapter on that.

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Speaker 4: I think it had some successes in some failure, so

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some of the unfortunately, I mean I think, I mean,

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there there are a lot of things cut out of

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the federal government right now because of DOJE and I

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am grateful for every single you know, one of the

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couple hundred thousand federal workers who now needs to look

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for a more productive job in the private sector because

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of Doche. I mean, it's where our federal government is

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completely unsustainable. And you know the things that Doche found.

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We're talking about fraud, we're talking about incompetence, We're talking

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about just things that no American taxpayer would support, you know,

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any of their our money, let alone.

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of millions of dollars of our money.

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Speaker 4: And I know people who you know are struggling to

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run businesses, to run nonprofits you know who are like man,

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you know, with a rounding era of some of that money,

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what I could do to provide jobs, you know, for

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food on the table for people in my community, you know,

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and they're sending it to you know, some stupid de

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I you know, person in Paraguay with whose transgender you know,

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you know, et cetera, et cetera. So so, I mean,

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there are absolutely have been some on the ground successes,

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but I also think there you know, for Congress really

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failed to really live up to all of the energy

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and excitement that doses were generated. As Congress has really

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completely disappointing that I actually was thinking about making that

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one of the stories of the year is that Republicans

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you know, have the House, the Senate, and the presidency

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and the you know, they're a build. They discipline, the unity,

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the delivering on you know, the policy priorities that President

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Trump won on, how been lackluster to say the least.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that.

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Speaker 4: The lack of you know, codifying, for example, the president's

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executive orders, the lack of codifying the cuts that does

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showed us you know, all of this waste, broad and

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abuse and completely unjustifiable you know spending. You know, we

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haven't seen Congressional action on that, and that's really needed.

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Speaker 3: To fulfill that mandate. So it's not.

478
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Speaker 4: Dog's fault that Congress stinks, but that is obviously a

479
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major factor in its success. That's you know, outside of

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its ability there. So I also we wanted to kind

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of comment on man. I just loved listening to Joshua

482
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talk about the young man issue. And I do think

483
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there was an aspect to the Dog team that was

484
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really inspirational in that, you know sort of way.

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Speaker 3: So I cannot say, you know, the on air.

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Speaker 4: I am still too modest to say, you know, uh,

487
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the nickname for the young man who got beat up

488
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in Washington, d C. You know, it's big, you know,

489
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and then a word for men's genitals. I just can't

490
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say that on air.

491
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Speaker 1: That's a family program, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, and I have, you know, a family mentality, right.

493
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Speaker 4: So, but but that young man, you know, watching him

494
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defend his girlfriend, you know, and he's so I'm at

495
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this point you know where I have my oldest child

496
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as a teenage son, and so I look at a

497
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young man like that, and I think I would be

498
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so proud if that was my son, right, And and

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you know, just to see someone who looks, you know,

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not very old, you know, not only doing you know,

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doing more than most people do to help out their

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country with the skills and talent that he has, and

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he is overcoming obstacles because of his skin color obviously,

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you know, so having motivation, drive and putting it to

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service for his country. But then just standing in between

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a group of thugs and a young woman that he

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cared about. I found that extremely inspiring. And I think

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that's a part of the dough story as well, is

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the sort of young men that it put, you know,

510
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back at the forefront of the American mind. And let's

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face it, young men need more inspirational figures big brothers, fathers,

512
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uncles to look up to. And it's an important part

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of a man becoming a man to have mentorship from

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older men and examples to look up to and live

515
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up to. And so I also appreciated that aspect of

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what that team brought to the national conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we also know this year was the year of

518
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the chuck HOGI or subway sandwich. As stupid as that was, again,

519
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it showed there's no accountability in Washington, d C. In particular,

520
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200
in government in general, and Jordan, I wanted to bring

521
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that up with you because we touched upon that earlier,

522
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the accountability for all of these deep state crimes. But

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the big story I think of the year, one of

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I would say the top five stories of the year

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would be the judicial coup that has been going on.

526
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You want to talk about, and Joy, I'm very glad

527
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that you because I was going to bring that up

528
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,200
as well. The fact that we have in this country,

529
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Conservatives had a window of opportunity and the Republicans in

530
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,839
Congress basically said, well, we'll just watch what's going on

531
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,839
outside the window. We won't do anything with that opportunity.

532
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480
But Jordan, what do you think about the judicial activism.

533
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,440
We've known that's been the case on the left, but

534
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:22,720
it has reached coup levels against the President of the

535
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:29,319
United States and the executive branch this year. What happened

536
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and where do we go from here on that front?

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00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean what we saw was a coordinated effort

538
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,319
to keep the commander in chief from governing, which is

539
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,359
wild and should be wilder, but it's not as wild

540
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,559
when you know that his first term they tried to

541
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,519
impeach him over several different hoaxes. So yeah, it's insane.

542
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:56,440
It's something that higher court judges, including justices on the

543
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Supreme Court, have called out year after year, maybe more

544
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subtly than they should have at this point, and have

545
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:09,160
sort of been warning about this incoming wave of just

546
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,319
ridiculous cases in front of ridiculous people and then ridiculous results,

547
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and it all goes one way, which should tell you

548
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,240
everything you need to know about it. By what's increasingly

549
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:26,000
concerning is that it's just not being punished, it's not

550
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,200
being corrected. We're having to jump through all of these

551
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,319
bureaucratic judicial hoops to get things worked out that should

552
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,079
have just been easy to deal with on the first level,

553
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,920
the first ring, of course. So it is a symptom

554
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:48,200
of a country that is getting sicker, and if we

555
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:53,480
don't treat the root cause, which we see very much

556
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,920
is on the deepest levels of the judiciary, we're going

557
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to have some serious problem, more so than we're already having.

558
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So I think I wish I could sit here and

559
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,800
lay out this five step plan, but it almost feels

560
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,280
insurmountable in a way. That there's going to have to

561
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be some really serious and swift action to get this

562
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,599
curved before it's completely out of control.

563
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,039
Speaker 1: No, you're not going to get that action unless you

564
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have a Republicans who are committed to doing something about it.

565
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,480
These are impeachable offenses, and we are once again you

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have the left that is that will if they get

567
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back into power in the House in twenty twenty six,

568
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,519
it's going to be, you know, an impeachment orgy for

569
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,480
the next two years. They are going to try to

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00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,559
impeach the President of the United States and will probably

571
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,000
be successful in that if they get a big enough

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majority over and over again. And so as we look

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ahead to twenty twenty six, joshuaan to ask you that

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tied into, you know, some of the major disappointment of

575
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,760
twenty twenty five. In twenty four you had people coming

576
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,360
out and voting low propensity voters who have not voted

577
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,119
in a long time or at all, and they came

578
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:14,159
out to vote for Donald Trump. He's not on the

579
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ballot Republicans and a lot of Republicans who did very

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little to advance what these people voted for. How much

581
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,000
is that going to impact the twenty twenty six mid

582
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:29,840
term elections. Absolutely critical.

583
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to have a huge effect.

584
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:41,719
And one of the big discussions right now is affordability.

585
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,880
And let me just say this, if we were in

586
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a situation where the Republican majority in the House was

587
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:58,280
putting forth a reasonable, workable solution to the Obamacare crisis,

588
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,440
or you know, would be the Unaffordable Care Act, and

589
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,679
they just they passed it, but they just couldn't get

590
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,840
it through in the Senate because you know, couldn't get

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,880
that two thirds majority. I think people might be able

592
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,280
to understand that, but when they can't even come up

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00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,039
with a workable solution, that's that's people are frustrated with that,

594
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and understandably so. And healthcare is one of the biggest

595
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,039
costs and one of the biggest factors making things affordable

596
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,199
for families. And so the fact that Congress doesn't have

597
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,400
solution things like that, hasn't really taken action on impeaching

598
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,039
these rogue judges, hasn't, as Joy said, hasn't codified Trump's

599
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,840
executive orders, which everyone knows would just go away if

600
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,320
another Democrat, as if a Democrat president were.

601
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Speaker 2: To be elected.

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Speaker 6: Failures in these areas are really going to hurt Republicans

603
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,719
in mid terms if they can't reverse course. And we've

604
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,880
seen signals of this with you know, Democrat victories in

605
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,679
New Jersey, in Virginia race that was closer than it

606
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,519
should have been. In Tennessee with the Democrat candidate that

607
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:11,039
was quite extreme, but was a lot closer to the

608
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,679
Democrat or to the Republican congressional candidate than she should

609
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:18,400
have been. So, yeah, if there's not a change in Congress,

610
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I think the twenty twenty six midterms are going to

611
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:24,760
not be good for the GOP.

612
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Jordan, what do you see looking at your crystal ball

613
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,880
as the biggest issue facing twenty twenty six. Obviously we're

614
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,360
talking about the critical midterms, but the biggest issue facing

615
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:42,360
twenty twenty six that may have the biggest impact on

616
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400
the things that we'll be reporting on and talking about.

617
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Joshua mentioned one, and it sort of

618
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,079
ties into what I would say is the second, which

619
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:56,760
is the affordability thing. Americans genuinely don't care who's in

620
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,960
office if they can't afford to live.

621
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: They just don't.

622
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: At that point, all politicians sort of become moot and

623
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,159
void and they're not going to be very motivated to

624
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,559
go elect the people who are already in office. So

625
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,320
I think that affordability crisis we really need to get

626
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880
a handle on it. Obviously, a lot of damage was

627
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,599
done to our economy under the last administration and it's

628
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:26,800
going to take a lot to build back. Similarly, with immigration,

629
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,480
we've seen a lot of damage done that. Frankly, even

630
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,840
if every single person on the planet became an ice agent,

631
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,920
we would still have problems fixing all of that, you know.

632
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,800
So I think those two will still continue to be

633
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,360
top of mind. You know, they were top of mind

634
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,079
in the twenty twenty four presidential election. And while there

635
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:50,119
was some temporary resolve and a little bit taken off

636
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,440
the top, there are deeper routes here and they need

637
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,719
to be addressed. And I think, yeah, unless Republicans start

638
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,920
moving on it, they're going to lose their seats. And

639
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:05,360
you know, some would say they deserve that after everything

640
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,280
they put everyone through this last year. But yeah, the

641
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,519
affordability crisis, for sure. One thing that's interesting. You know,

642
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:14,960
we heard a ton of talk about all the tariff

643
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,320
stuff this last year. You know, a lot of corporate

644
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,880
media hubbub about how, oh gosh, tariffs are the worst

645
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,000
and it's gonna worse in inflation, and we really just

646
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,639
haven't seen that fear mongering come true. So I think

647
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,840
that's another thing to keep an eye on, is what

648
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,559
economic policies are actually working. You know, the good news

649
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,480
never gets the attention it deserves, so looking at the

650
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:39,760
things that matter, making sure that the good gets elevated

651
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,719
and that bad we continue to hammer it is really

652
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,360
I think what twenty twenty six will be about.

653
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:51,559
Speaker 1: Joy the Minneapolis Somali's who benefited immensely from what could

654
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:58,039
prove to be the worst fraud scandal in American history.

655
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,880
They don't seem to have to worry about the afford

656
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,559
ability issue, although at least some of them are now

657
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:08,960
wards of the state. Where do you see that story going?

658
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,119
And again, what do you see as the issue that

659
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will most impact twenty twenty six?

660
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Speaker 4: Well, I think that is really that's crazy amazing story.

661
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That's one of those where you look at and you go,

662
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I can't believe this is the real story.

663
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Speaker 3: There have been so many of those.

664
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Speaker 4: Since Trump came down the escalator, almost like I'm living

665
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in you know, it's like tabloids became reality sometimes. But

666
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I think it actually speaks a lot to the affordability

667
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,320
conversation that we're having because you know, there is so

668
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
there are so many people who who is living is

669
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,480
subsidized by taxpayers in debt, and debt really causes inflation.

670
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,159
Government spending above its means is the core reason for inflation.

671
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This is well proven economically, you know, it's a fundamental reality.

672
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Speaker 3: And so if people look around and see that.

673
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Speaker 4: Things are too expensive, they have to realize that we

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have to vote for, for example, more doge. Congress should

675
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,360
you know, get their butts in gear and doze it up,

676
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because that is really what's going to you know, we're

677
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,400
dozed up through healthcare, you know, through every single other

678
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,039
aspect of the economy because it takes money out of

679
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,800
the productive part of the economy and gives it to sycophants,

680
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,599
right the people, just people who are giving them money

681
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,239
for the re election campaigns. And that's really you know,

682
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440
what's the elephant sitting on, you know, the throat of

683
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,360
the American taxpayer. The people who in the middle who

684
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,719
are too wealthy to be subsidized by the government and

685
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,559
not rich enough to be subsidized by the government, and

686
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so those people still you know, Trump really is elected

687
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,920
to fight for those people, and he's doing a lot there,

688
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,239
you know.

689
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Speaker 3: But there is a lot that he can't do.

690
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Speaker 4: So one of the things I think about is, you know,

691
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the for example, housing affordability, immigration is really a big

692
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,360
deal enforcement to loosen up kind of the housing situation.

693
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But also, you know, President, the lot of the you know,

694
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what drives up the costs for housing is locally controlled.

695
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,320
It's a lot about policing, you know, if you do

696
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,840
if you have police pulled back, if you have neighborhoods,

697
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,519
or people don't want to live because there's weed smells

698
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,840
coming out of the doors because there's you know, a

699
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,119
petty crime happening.

700
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Speaker 3: Their kids bikes are stolen.

701
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: You know, there's people you know, riding down their streets

702
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,480
blaring ugly music.

703
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: People don't live in those neighborhoods.

704
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Speaker 4: That would be perfectly nice, you know, if there were

705
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,679
some ordinances that were very well policed and enforced by

706
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:21,239
the local police. And that's something you know, the president

707
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,480
doesn't have a lot of control over besides maybe a

708
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,599
bully pulpit. So so the Somali situation I think is

709
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,840
just an encapsulation of the idea that Americans still have

710
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,599
that I think is really resonating, which is that government

711
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,639
cares about everybody but the people who are drowning while

712
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:39,639
they're trying to bring you know, while they're trying to

713
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push the wheelbarrow up the mountain. Sorry to mix my metaphors, right,

714
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but you know, there's too many people in the wheelbarrow.

715
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Speaker 3: And not enough people pushing.

716
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think the Somali's sort of situation

717
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is indicative of a government that really puts the interests

718
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of everyone their donors, you know, basically, you know, someone

719
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who scratches their backs head of the people who actually

720
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880
vote in the elect you know, to put them in office,

721
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and really are expecting fulfillment of something of their promise

722
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as an elected representative to safeguard our rights to property,

723
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to life, liberty and happiness, and really have been feeling

724
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to do so.

725
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Speaker 3: And that's why they're we're in the situation now.

726
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Somalley situation, I think what twenty twenty

727
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five did, particularly the last few months in particular, is

728
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it did shine a very bright light on what a

729
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:33,599
dufist Tim Walls is for so many reasons, the governor

730
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:37,280
of the far left governor of Minnesota, as he has

731
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:43,880
been indelicately nicknamed tampon Tim for reasons, I think this

732
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,440
audience fully understands he is caught in an absolute hornets

733
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,039
nest here of his own making. I might add, I

734
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think twenty twenty six is going to I don't know

735
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,719
if it's going to show any accountability, but at least

736
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,760
it's going to expose tims and Is a fellow leftist

737
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,599
in Minnesota for the corruption that they caused, at the

738
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very least by looking the other way. All right, real quick, real.

739
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Speaker 4: Quick, Yeah, Matt, you know, mentioning Tim Walls makes me,

740
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,119
you know, think of another thing related to him that

741
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:16,960
which is I mean, I think it's pretty clear at

742
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,519
this party that the Democrat Party really is, you know,

743
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,119
in office by means of fraud. And by that I mean,

744
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,559
I'll just they just support Frauda every single way possible

745
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:28,960
in order to get into power. So for example, you know,

746
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,280
the reason that that we have this revolving door of

747
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,079
you know, Somali sort of votes for you know, for

748
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:37,280
sale that's available to be purchased by government welfare benefits

749
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,159
apparently is because Democrats benefit.

750
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Speaker 3: From that, right, right, and that's just you know, a

751
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greater phenomenon.

752
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Speaker 4: You know.

753
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Speaker 3: So we have Tim Walls in power.

754
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Speaker 4: And how does a guy that stupid get to be

755
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the governor of a beautiful, wonderful state where I have

756
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relatives living.

757
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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's gorgeous. It's got all four seasons.

758
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Speaker 4: It's been you know until you know, the last kind

759
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of generation really well managed a wonderful place to live

760
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,320
and just run into the ground, you know, as we're

761
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incresently finding all these layers of essentially cheating, scamming, fraud,

762
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,639
and so that kind of way of life that is

763
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,519
used to being you know, or as it is still

764
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,840
it's a third world sort of way of life. Well,

765
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,480
that third world way of life is being important to

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the United States, and it's you know, really adopted. As

767
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,519
I mean, Republicans also are you know, really into the

768
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you know, the donor revolving door game as well.

769
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,079
Speaker 3: But Democrats do it better.

770
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: Yes they do. They have excelled at fraud. I think

771
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,400
that it's a very very good point. And by the way,

772
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,360
every time I think of Tim Walls, I think of

773
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,000
the seventh grade after wrestling practice, my best buddy's mom

774
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,440
took us to a Chinese restaurant and I got horrible

775
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:48,000
food poisoning, and I got really sick. And that's that's

776
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,760
how I feel when I think about Tim Walls. All right,

777
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,280
let's go around the table. We'll wrap this very very

778
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,639
interesting discussion up by maybe I'm putting you on the

779
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,559
spot here. Who do you think the worst person of

780
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,199
two thousand and twenty five was? Jordan? I'll start with

781
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,639
you on that.

782
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,559
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, there's so many men.

783
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,599
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm constantly.

784
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,119
Speaker 5: Disappointed in people. Let me just put it.

785
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: The older you grow, by the way, the more you

786
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:20,920
will be disappointed with people.

787
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 5: I will say, what was interesting this year and what

788
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,880
sort of took the edge off a little bit edge

789
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,280
disappointment off a little bit is knowing that Joe Biden

790
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,599
didn't sign everything his autopen did, so the contempt moved

791
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,960
a little bit off of Joe Biden and to the

792
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,519
auto pin or the people who were, you know, manipulating

793
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,280
that for him. That was pretty bad. I think there

794
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,639
was this this lady who's kind of made the news

795
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,280
recently as more reporting on IVF and Trump's rhetoric around

796
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,079
it comes up. She runs a company that claims to

797
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:59,519
sequence genomes and sort of tests and eliminate undesirable genes,

798
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:04,119
essentially eugenicsy stuff, and they pitch it to parents as

799
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something that is useful, you know, and they can have

800
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healthy children and happy children for their families. And really

801
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,400
what it is is they cull undesirable embryos for various reasons.

802
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,199
So I think that's pretty despicable. And the fact that

803
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,199
corporate media continue to elevate her and other eugenic startups,

804
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:26,119
that's alarming to me.

805
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,119
Speaker 1: That is sickening and alarming. It's something to watch, certainly

806
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:35,800
in the year and years ahead. Joshua, I want your

807
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:39,760
worst human being of you know, the Time always has

808
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:42,880
the time person of the Year. We're giving the Federalist

809
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,039
worst human being.

810
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

811
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: But before we do that, we have to resolve this

812
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,000
most important question. Where'd you get the nickname Bonesy?

813
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:57,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, Matt, I wish I could say I had

814
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,519
a little side business in piracy is where I got

815
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:02,239
that nickname.

816
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,079
Speaker 1: But well, you knew we're an eyepatch, so that, yeah,

817
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:05,559
that's what.

818
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 6: I thought if you were our listeners can't see that,

819
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,760
but yeah, proudly no, Yeah, as a young lad I

820
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,280
was pretty fairly muscular, I'll say, and then I ranted

821
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,079
some sort of health issue and was recommended to a

822
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:23,280
certain type of diet, which I pursued, you know, with

823
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,119
everything I had, and ended up losing like twenty five

824
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:29,800
or thirty pounds and then changed my appearance, and my

825
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,840
mother affectionately dubbed me Boonesy. So yeah, no career in piracy,

826
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
just a little weight loss.

827
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Speaker 1: So one of these days, one of these days, we'll

828
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,679
have to have the Federalist team together just to talk

829
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,840
about the nicknames that our family and friends subjected us too.

830
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:47,920
Let's stay with us to this day. All right, Who's

831
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,159
the worst, worst person, the worst human being of twenty

832
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,760
twenty five?

833
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: Mmm?

834
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a difficult question. I'll go with I'll go

835
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,920
with worse performances and name it. Few people in the

836
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,079
spirit of Christmas, just recommend them toward a better path.

837
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 2: But I think of.

838
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 6: Gavin Newsome with his cutting twenty twenty eight presidential campaign,

839
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:18,760
that this seems to generate more cringe than actual momentum,

840
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,199
and his he sort of, you know, pretended like he

841
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,719
might be backing away from the radical trans ideology, but

842
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,079
then he really wasn't. I think also of Kambala Harris.

843
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,960
You know, I think maybe Owding, someone who supposedly said

844
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,760
she was one of the most qualified presidential candidates or

845
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,960
the most qualified presidential candidates of all time, which clearly

846
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:42,800
wasn't true.

847
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,039
Speaker 2: I think recently of Candice Owens.

848
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 6: She's obviously as a big a lot of talent and

849
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:55,239
a big following, But the whole asserting that Charlie Kirk

850
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,440
was betrayed by everyone, particularly people at Turning Point, is

851
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,480
obviously something that she shouldn't be saying. So of course

852
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:09,360
redirected there would be welcome, I think. But yeah, really,

853
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,000
if you want to look at the true villains of

854
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:16,760
twenty twenty five, elgain come back to left wing violence

855
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,119
and it's perpetrators, and it's really just a very dark

856
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:29,519
side of humanity. And so we don't necessarily expect that

857
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,119
to abate, but we hope and pray that it does.

858
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to see evidence the historical record

859
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,039
of that dark side of humanity, just read the Federalist

860
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:46,320
coverage of what was said by leftist online professionals, many

861
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,320
of them in academia, about what they said about Charlie

862
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,719
Kirk's assassination. Joy We'll end with you worst person of

863
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,039
the year if you could.

864
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,559
Speaker 4: Well, maybe you all could help me vote on this

865
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,800
because I'm trying to decide between several we've got Probably

866
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,119
probably Charlie Kirk Shooter is the worst, but you know, I.

867
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: Might you know, pick whoever is you know, not accelerating.

868
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: You know sort of uh the investigation into the network

869
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
that may have you know, been behind or encouraging, you know,

870
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
the kind of people people don't you know, just go

871
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440
out and shoot people randomly. There's a lot of things

872
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,559
that led up to you know, you adopting the beliefs

873
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:26,360
that would make you willing to shoot somebody over something, right,

874
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,840
and so that includes the American media, Hollywood, but you know,

875
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,159
there may have been you know, Reddit, you know, chats

876
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,519
or whatever, some kind of subculture, you know, group that

877
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,039
we don't know about. Because I think it's just better

878
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,760
to go after people who have authority and are not

879
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,639
exercising it well, because those sort of people just need

880
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,079
to like just either do the job or get out.

881
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,480
And so that's actually why I was trying to decide. So,

882
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,639
I mean, so I think obviously a murderer is a

883
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:55,199
really bad guy, and I'm not saying his name, because

884
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,440
I don't like to say the names you know of murderers,

885
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,440
especially you know, public assassins. But that was also think

886
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,880
the funny idea that came into my mind was a

887
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,719
living and nuzzy the vanity fair, you know, sort of lady.

888
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,480
But I also think you just like a waste of time,

889
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:12,239
you know, stupid gossip, and I'm not really into stupid gossip.

890
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,679
So then I was trying to decide based on my

891
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,280
criteria I just mentioned right, who has authority and is

892
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,519
really not wielding it well and really should be able

893
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:22,000
to do better. So I was trying to decide between

894
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:27,719
Mike Johnson, John Thune, and John Roberts. So because the

895
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,400
sort of court situation that we talked about in the

896
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,400
podcast here, and I've talked with legal observers who say

897
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,599
that John Roberts could you know, really solve that situation

898
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:38,320
or at least, you know, a dress it more quickly

899
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:41,320
by slapping down lower court rulings more quickly and with

900
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,320
less hesitation, making it work through the process, and so far,

901
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,760
you know, and so forth, and so far you know,

902
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,639
John Roberts has failed to do that, basically allowing you know,

903
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,840
the court system to lose its validity in the eyes

904
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,880
of American people by becoming transparently political, you know, and and.

905
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,159
Speaker 3: I mean it has been political, but just the love.

906
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:03,079
Speaker 4: Of the politicization is something that he is not choosing

907
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:06,199
to use his power to you to rein in at

908
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:09,519
this moment. And so I guess I've just talked myself

909
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,760
into naming him. I think the worst person of the year.

910
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,079
Speaker 1: Who John's and a mic sounds like a recipe for prostitution.

911
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,480
We'll have to end it there, because well, I want

912
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to tell you all I very much value your time.

913
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,079
I know it is in short commodity this time of

914
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:31,400
the year, and we got a lot of stuff to

915
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,679
accomplish before the Christmas season. We're in the Christmas season,

916
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,559
but before Christmas, and I want to wish you all

917
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,039
a very merry Christmas, a very blessed Christmas season, time

918
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:48,440
with your family and your friends and the people who

919
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,559
have nicknamed you, and God blessed the good work that

920
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:52,119
you all do.

921
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,559
Speaker 4: Thanks Matt, same to you. We love your family, we

922
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:58,480
love your work. It's a pleasure to work with you.

923
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,400
And have Merry Christmas to all of our listeners and

924
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,599
are wonderful readers and supporters as well.

925
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:10,079
Speaker 1: You bet absolutely thanks to my guest today, Federalist Executive

926
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:14,000
editor Joy Pullman, staff writer and Federalist Radio Hour producer

927
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:19,599
Jordan Boyd, and Federalist editor Joshua Monington Bonesy, as his

928
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:22,159
mother likes to call him. You've been listening to another

929
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edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior

930
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,480
elections correspondent at the Federalist. We will be back soon

931
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:34,320
with more you can guarantee. Until then, stay lovers of freedom.

932
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:35,800
I'm anxious for, friend,