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Speaker 2: The study that suggests that if you were allowed alcohol
Speaker 2: as a teenager, you know, your parents gave your permission
Speaker 2: to have a drink with the family or whatever, or
Speaker 2: they were more brazen and just said do whatever you want,
Speaker 2: just as long as you don't drive, or wherever the
Speaker 2: line was. If you were allowed to drink alcohol as
Speaker 2: a teenager, you had problems. Likely you were more likely
Speaker 2: to binge drink when you are a young adult, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that coming up at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour. Also, there is a doctor who studies
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 3: Who are you know, super agers.
Speaker 2: These are this group of wellness influencers that try to
Speaker 2: do everything they can to extend their lifestyle with supplements
Speaker 2: or exercise or crazy meditations or sun tanning your hearts.
Speaker 3: Or whatever they do.
Speaker 2: But this doctor who's been studying these people has come
Speaker 2: up with his own exercise regimen. We'll talk about that,
Speaker 2: and then of course what you're watching Wednesday comes along
Speaker 2: at twelve thirty, so you can always let us know
Speaker 2: what you've been watching. What you're excited about that's coming up.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about the trailers that are up on
Speaker 2: the website. Also, it's time for Swampwatch.
Speaker 4: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 4: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 5: are done.
Speaker 3: The other side never quits.
Speaker 1: So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4: So that is now you train the squaw.
Speaker 3: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
Speaker 3: what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone at,
Speaker 3: but they're not stupid.
Speaker 6: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4: Who have the people voted for you?
Speaker 3: With no swamp watch? They're all countona.
Speaker 2: So President Trump right now is hosting the President of
Speaker 2: South Africa, and along with the normal trade relations and
Speaker 2: you know the good will that goes back and forth
Speaker 2: between countries, there was a moment where President Trump in
Speaker 2: the Oval Office told the President of South Africa that
Speaker 2: he was going to show him a video of allegations
Speaker 2: of white genocide where lawmakers black lawmakers in South Africa
Speaker 2: are calling for the murder of white farmers throughout South Africa,
Speaker 2: and showed this video of a Communist member of parliament
Speaker 2: or at least a Communist leader there in South Africa
Speaker 2: who blatantly called for the murder of white farmers people of.
Speaker 5: Fleeing South Africa for their own safety. Their land is
Speaker 5: being confiscated and in many cases they're being killed. And
Speaker 5: that scene of you see how many crosses they have.
Speaker 5: Those crosses, that's a dead person in every one of them,
Speaker 5: and those trucks or cars are paying their respects to
Speaker 5: all of those dead people on a Sunday morning. That's
Speaker 5: a that's a rough that's a rough thing to explain away.
Speaker 2: One of the reasons that this became an issue is
Speaker 2: the United States granted refugee status to at least forty
Speaker 2: nine Africanners, the white African or community, who said they
Speaker 2: were fleeing racial and violent persecution, widespread seizures of lands
Speaker 2: that was owned by white farmers. There were people in
Speaker 2: the room today in the Oval Office with President Cyril
Speaker 2: Ramaphosa of South Africa who said that's not true.
Speaker 3: It's not race based. The problem is not race relations in.
Speaker 2: South Africa, which is weird to say, but that the
Speaker 2: problem is just crime, that crime doesn't choose a skin
Speaker 2: color in South Africa. But black farmers and white farmers
Speaker 2: and farm workers are being attacked and victimized in the same.
Speaker 3: At the same levels.
Speaker 2: That the idea that this is a specifically white genocide
Speaker 2: in South Africa is not true. President Trump actually invited
Speaker 2: Ernie Els, Golfer, Ernie Els to the White House today
Speaker 2: to help with this reception for Cyril Ramaphosa, the President
Speaker 2: of South Africa, and then forced Ernie Els to speak
Speaker 2: in this news conference there in the Oval Office.
Speaker 4: So there's been thirty.
Speaker 7: Five years of anti government, and I know there's a
Speaker 7: lot of anger, you know, through the transition. There's also
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff happening in the apartheid space. You know,
Speaker 7: we grew up in the apartheid ye, right, But I
Speaker 7: don't think two rongs makes it right. You know, President
Speaker 7: Mandela when he came out of president for all that time,
Speaker 7: didn't come out with hatred, you know, and really unified
Speaker 7: our nation through.
Speaker 3: Sport, through sport, he says there.
Speaker 2: Now, the other thing that's going on in DC is
Speaker 2: they're still trying to get this big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 3: According to President Trump through the House.
Speaker 2: There's still some hang ups, especially regarding the state and
Speaker 2: local tax deduction.
Speaker 3: The problem is.
Speaker 2: On the one side, President Trump says that he is
Speaker 2: just yesterday he said he is the biggest fiscal hawk
Speaker 2: in Washington, but then refuse to acknowledge that this big,
Speaker 2: beautiful bill would literally add trillions of dollars to the deficit.
Speaker 2: And that's the biggest issue that's hanging this thing up.
Speaker 2: There is a group of Republican House members who do
Speaker 2: not want to add to the deficit. I mentioned this
Speaker 2: last I mentioned it yesterday that Thomas Massey out of Kentucky,
Speaker 2: one of the congressmen, had no hard no on this
Speaker 2: kind of ongoing kicking the can down the road when
Speaker 2: it comes to deficit spending. And despite what President Trump says,
Speaker 2: there is a group of lawmakers that kind of follow
Speaker 2: in the footsteps of Thomas Massey.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's necessarily the leader.
Speaker 2: You could argue that Chip Roy is probably the leader
Speaker 2: of that group, but that they do not want to
Speaker 2: see this continue. They're hanging their hat on that state
Speaker 2: and local tax deduction and the potential to raise this
Speaker 2: whole thing. But listen, the White House Council of Economic
Speaker 2: Advisors says that this bill in its current form would
Speaker 2: boost GDP four percent five percent in the short run,
Speaker 2: which is incredible. It goes well beyond what the mainstream
Speaker 2: consensus is in terms of increasing our GDP, and the
Speaker 2: White House says that that number means that we do
Speaker 2: not add to the deficit, but would actually save one
Speaker 2: point six trillion dollars because of spending cuts and Medicaid
Speaker 2: work requirements. So it's one of those things that this
Speaker 2: is the big ugly part of Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 2: they're trying to get these massive bills through and all
Speaker 2: of the politicking really kicks into high gear in the background.
Speaker 2: The other thing out of DC second Terry Defense Pete
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Speaker 2: go through its upgrades to include proper security measures and
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Speaker 2: don't understand how they're going to do it quickly. It
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Speaker 2: and already the two Air Force. The two seven forty
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Speaker 3: All right, up, next, terror in the skies.
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Speaker 8: It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on kfill.
Speaker 3: We'll start with a more traditional terror in the Skies.
Speaker 2: A Navy tech was arrested on charges of making a
Speaker 2: false bomb threat on a Hawaiian Airlines flight. This thirty
Speaker 2: five year old guy was arrested charged with making a
Speaker 2: false bomb threat and a false report of a security threat.
Speaker 2: He told a flight attendant on Hawaii Airlines Flight fifteen
Speaker 2: the passenger next to him had a bomb as they
Speaker 2: were getting ready to depart. Flight attendant tells the captain
Speaker 2: Harbor police were able to get this guy.
Speaker 3: The incident happened.
Speaker 2: Is about to leave San Diego on its way to Honolulu,
Speaker 2: so the plane taxi to a safe location. They searched
Speaker 2: the plane, three hundred people on board, all had to
Speaker 2: get off, had to be taken by bus. Everybody, the aircraft,
Speaker 2: all the luggage, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Eventually cleared. No bomb found, but what an annoyance.
Speaker 2: Also, Southwest Airlines is implementing a new policy. You know,
Speaker 2: the portable chargers. It's usually about the size of your phone,
Speaker 2: but it's a small battery pack that you charge up
Speaker 2: and then when you're on a trip somewhere, you can
Speaker 2: plug your phone or computer, whatever that is, into that
Speaker 2: and keep it going well. The batteries themselves are the
Speaker 2: things that they don't want you to have in your
Speaker 2: checked bags, so they want you to have it in
Speaker 2: your carry on. But now they're saying, if you have
Speaker 2: one of those power banks, you have to keep it
Speaker 2: in plain sight.
Speaker 3: When you're using it.
Speaker 2: It's okay if you have it and put it in
Speaker 2: the overhead compartment, but if it's plugged into something, if
Speaker 2: it's actually in use, they say they want you to
Speaker 2: have this thing in sight. And as of right now,
Speaker 2: I mean it starts next week. That policy. As of
Speaker 2: right now, it's the only airline that does that. A
Speaker 2: spokesperson for Southwest said using portable charging devices while stored
Speaker 2: in a bag or overhead will no longer be permitted
Speaker 2: because they say nothing is more important to Southwest than
Speaker 2: the safety of its customers and employees. The logic is
Speaker 2: that these lithium ion batteries would be able to overheat,
Speaker 2: and if they get hot enough, obviously they would ignite
Speaker 2: or ignite the stuff around it. And if you keep
Speaker 2: it in plain sight, it gives you the ability to
Speaker 2: see it, smell it in some cases, and put the
Speaker 2: fire out before it becomes before it becomes a bigger deal.
Speaker 2: And the long ongoing problems with Newark Liberty International Airport
Speaker 2: only got worse. Yesterday, the FAA issued new temporary restrictions
Speaker 2: on flights in and out of Newark Liberty because of
Speaker 2: the disruptions caused by that caused severe flight delays and cancelations.
Speaker 3: It is a very congested facility.
Speaker 2: But as of right now, flights through Newark will be
Speaker 2: capped at twenty eight departures, twenty eight arrivals per hour
Speaker 2: until June fifteenth, and every weekend from September through December
Speaker 2: because of the construction. They have said, because of the
Speaker 2: construction that's going on in the on the runways, starting
Speaker 2: on June fifteenth, they'll be able to pump it up
Speaker 2: a little bit. It'll go to thirty four departures, thirty
Speaker 2: four arrivals through October twenty fifth.
Speaker 3: As of right now, United is.
Speaker 2: The biggest, the biggest airline that's hit because they use
Speaker 2: Newark as one of their hubs there on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: But they said that they welcome these restrictions. United operates
Speaker 2: about seventy percent of the flights in and out of there.
Speaker 2: United said this will help ensure that we can safely
Speaker 2: and reliably operate the flights and remain on the schedule,
Speaker 2: which is why we proactively reduced our schedule earlier this month.
Speaker 2: So yesterday we were telling the story of this about
Speaker 2: a study that came out regarding teens who drink and
Speaker 2: what kind of impact it had on you as an
Speaker 2: adult who drinks or doesn't drink, And I was taking
Speaker 2: a lot of different talkbacks from people with a lot
Speaker 2: of different scenarios in their lives.
Speaker 9: Gary, I've had some drinks with my kids at home
Speaker 9: as long as I'm there and I'm supervising, and that
Speaker 9: sounds kind of bad. I mean, I'm supervising, but for
Speaker 9: the most part, the kids don't really want to drink.
Speaker 9: I think after seeing me drink so much all the time,
Speaker 9: they're like, yeah, we don't want to be like that.
Speaker 9: So I think something positive came out of me drinking
Speaker 9: so much. So I'm just going to continue it and
Speaker 9: hope the kids learn from it. Anyways, have a good day.
Speaker 3: Sure, there's that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that study with Justin Warsham when we
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 8: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 8: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: National Weather Service heat advisory is going to be up
Speaker 2: through tomorrow night Today is supposed to be the warmest
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Speaker 2: so it's going to be a nice, toasty day today.
Speaker 2: The heat advisory stays up until nine pm tomorrow. Chances
Speaker 2: are we will also see some triple digit temperatures tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I told you that the Sean did He Combs trial
Speaker 2: is going on I think twelfth day of testimony. One
Speaker 2: of the Homeland Security investigators is out the is on
Speaker 2: the stand and he was talking about the searches of
Speaker 2: properties in Miami. Rapper Kid Cutty, who at one point
Speaker 2: had a relationship with Cassie Ventura, was I should say,
Speaker 2: slated to testify today, but his appearance was postpone for
Speaker 2: a short time according to prosecutors. And then singer Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: We told you was in jail in London. He has
Speaker 2: been freed on bail after he was charged with inflicting
Speaker 2: an unprovoked attack at a nightclub a couple years ago.
Speaker 2: I think he busted a tequila bottle over somebody's head.
Speaker 2: He has not yet been asked to enter a plea
Speaker 2: in that case, but they said because he is out
Speaker 2: on bail, he will be able to begin his world tour.
Speaker 2: I believe June eighth, this when it's supposed to start.
Speaker 2: And the Billionina mystery has been solved. Yesterday, people who
Speaker 2: showed up to the La Zoo trying to get their
Speaker 2: look at those elephants, they were gone. In fact, they
Speaker 2: were on their way to the Tulsa Zoo, twenty six
Speaker 2: hour road trip. The La Zoo people didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 2: They did it in the middle of the night, loaded
Speaker 2: him up onto a truck in about one thirty in
Speaker 2: the morning, made their way all the way.
Speaker 3: To the Tulsa Zoo.
Speaker 2: So the new two new elephants to add to their herd,
Speaker 2: they do have to go through a quick quarantine time
Speaker 2: so that they don't spread California. I guess to the
Speaker 2: to the week, I don't know they spread the liberal
Speaker 2: politics to the elephants in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of lot of a lot of other
Speaker 6: elephants in Tulsa rolling their eyes. Leave your politics at home,
Speaker 6: but one of them asking for avocado and everything.
Speaker 2: Justin Warshon has joined us, so we talked about parenting
Speaker 2: with Justin when he comes in. I saw the article
Speaker 2: yesterday morning, and I actually we got a couple of
Speaker 2: talkbacks from people yesterday, just as an example.
Speaker 3: Here's one.
Speaker 2: The study was about whether drinking as a teenager with
Speaker 2: permission from your parents, they give you little bit of
Speaker 2: leeway or a lot of leeway, whatever it is, But
Speaker 2: drinking before you're legally allowed to, does that have an
Speaker 2: impact on when you drink when you're legal as a
Speaker 2: as a young.
Speaker 10: Adult, Hi, Gary, My parents would have a cocktail when
Speaker 10: my dad got home from work. He drank Martiniz. My
Speaker 10: mom drank Dubinet, which is a sweet sherry. We always
Speaker 10: got to taste it. We thought my dad's drink tasted
Speaker 10: like rocket fuel. My mom's drink was very sweet and
Speaker 10: we loved it. But I grew up alcohol just wasn't
Speaker 10: a big deal until I started partying in my twenties.
Speaker 10: Then it was more of a big deal. But now
Speaker 10: at this point in my life, I hardly drink it
Speaker 10: all maybe when I go out with friends.
Speaker 2: So the study actually showed that the younger you start,
Speaker 2: for one thing, the younger you start your first taste
Speaker 2: of alcoholics. We had one person say seven, A couple
Speaker 2: of them said nine. The more common was somewhere around eleven, twelve, thirteen, yeah,
Speaker 2: twelve was yeah, and not a regular drink, but just
Speaker 2: the taste.
Speaker 6: The sixth of the like the trying in the worship household.
Speaker 6: It's toddlerdom because of my Portuguese step mom. There you go, yes, there,
Speaker 6: as soon as you can walk, you dip your pacifier
Speaker 6: in vivaz of wine.
Speaker 2: But they said they found an eighty percent increase of
Speaker 2: the sorry eighty percent of the adolescents responded they had
Speaker 2: drunk alcohol with parental permission, and that those were more
Speaker 2: likely to drink more as young adults.
Speaker 6: And the theory is like, and this is what I
Speaker 6: looked at it. These are surveys taken from two thousand
Speaker 6: and nine to twenty eighteen from people with children ages
Speaker 6: five to seventeen. And I wonder if there is like
Speaker 6: a generational aspect to this, because I feel like what
Speaker 6: she's talking about, like she sounds like she's at least
Speaker 6: close to our age. And my parents let me try
Speaker 6: anything I wanted. And my dad's whole philosophy was if
Speaker 6: you remove the taboo, then it would be less likely
Speaker 6: that I.
Speaker 4: Would drink in high school.
Speaker 6: And this could just be circumstantial, but like I didn't like,
Speaker 6: I had one drink my entire the entire time I
Speaker 6: was in high school. I don't think I was actually
Speaker 6: drunk until I graduated high school. I was still under
Speaker 6: twenty one the first time I got drunk. But it
Speaker 6: wasn't like, I don't know. I was always very responsible
Speaker 6: about It was never a thing that was like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is exciting. So there's also an element to me
Speaker 6: that my mom always had a glass of wine as
Speaker 6: soon as she came home from work. And I always
Speaker 6: thought it was because she was Portuguese and that was
Speaker 6: the way she was. Maybe that makes me racist, probably probably,
Speaker 6: So I just saw it like, oh, but my dad
Speaker 6: never drank. My dad was probably drunk five times my
Speaker 6: entire childhood, and I never saw them any like, at
Speaker 6: no point in my life did I ever see my
Speaker 6: dad saws ever.
Speaker 4: Never happened. So, but it's so, I don't know. It
Speaker 4: was never important to me.
Speaker 2: I remember my parents not big drinkers, but they had
Speaker 2: a massive, at least my memory of it, a massive
Speaker 2: liquor cabinet, all right, My dad did to cabinet is
Speaker 2: not the right word, a collection of liquor. It was
Speaker 2: always in the garage, and you know you touched it,
Speaker 2: opened the garage door, and it would be behind it.
Speaker 2: There was a set of shelves back there, and I
Speaker 2: remember looking at it and thinking, what is all that
Speaker 2: stuff for?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: You don't drink it, what do you use it for?
Speaker 2: Maybe they were drinking it and I didn't know it.
Speaker 6: My father used gin as a trap, like he would
Speaker 6: put because he got tired of me sneaking your mom,
Speaker 6: You're right, he got tired of me stealing his coke
Speaker 6: whenever he so he would lay out a coke and
Speaker 6: he would pour gin in it, like half gin, so
Speaker 6: I'd take a hit and blah blah.
Speaker 4: And when I was like less than five, and that
Speaker 4: was just his way. When with his grandkids he would.
Speaker 6: Put cayenne pepper on popcorn for the first few times,
Speaker 6: just so they wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Steal his popcorn.
Speaker 2: My uncle used to put out his cigarettes in the
Speaker 2: old pepsi bottles. And that's also that's a turret that
Speaker 2: and hee spit if you ever take a sway of that.
Speaker 6: I think there's also got to be an element kind
Speaker 6: of like what but even the talkback person said, like,
Speaker 6: I think his contradictor to this in that I think
Speaker 6: if your parent, like my siblings, my stepbrother and sister
Speaker 6: in law, they threw parties and they had their kids,
Speaker 6: had teenage friends and I'm talking at like sixteen years old.
Speaker 6: They would have ragers at their house where everybody would
Speaker 6: spend the night and everybody was hammered. And both my
Speaker 6: dad and I were really afraid for them because if
Speaker 6: something really bad goes wrong and one of those other parents,
Speaker 6: supposedly all the parents knew.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but if one.
Speaker 6: Of those parents decides to file so press charges, they
Speaker 6: could lose their house, they could lose their kids. Like
Speaker 6: there's a lot that could come from that, and I
Speaker 6: think they just everybody does it under this thing.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want them to be safe. I did.
Speaker 2: I went to one party like that. I think it
Speaker 2: was a junior. I had to be a senior in
Speaker 2: high school. And the expectation was nobody leaves, nobody leaves
Speaker 2: until the morning. Yeah, And I think there were probably
Speaker 2: ten of us and the it was my girlfriend's mom.
Speaker 2: She bought a twelve pack of beer for like ten
Speaker 2: of us, and I remember thinking, well, this is not
Speaker 2: going to be fun. And I had I mean, I'd
Speaker 2: never experienced it before. But even then, I was like,
Speaker 2: this is not how are we going to decide who
Speaker 2: gets to drink the extra two beer? Like it didn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. I cannot imagine doing that. I mean now,
Speaker 2: but freshman year in college, my daughter came home and
Speaker 2: she brought a bunch of friends with her roommates and
Speaker 2: things like that, and I said to them, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't mind. You guys want to hang out and have
Speaker 2: a crush, a couple of Seltzers or whatever you guys want, whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever's cool amongst your group, but nobody leaves.
Speaker 3: Nobody leaves this place. You can't get no windows and
Speaker 3: no doors.
Speaker 2: But there were there were other times as well when
Speaker 2: it was just the four of us, my wife and
Speaker 2: I and then our son and daughter, and I would say,
Speaker 2: you want a glass of wine with dinner? And I mean,
Speaker 2: this is late in their teen years, late in high
Speaker 2: school kind of thing, because I wanted them to know
Speaker 2: what it felt like, especially before my daughter went off
Speaker 2: and you know, got to go to the bars that
Speaker 2: did college town. You got to know what two drinks
Speaker 2: does to you. Yeah, compared to four drinks, compared to
Speaker 2: six drinks. Now, I wasn't going to give her six drinks.
Speaker 2: But I just was going to get them to the
Speaker 2: point where they go, oh, this does change the way I.
Speaker 6: Feel, what it feels like to be prepared, and the
Speaker 6: fact that like, there's this where you feel it, and
Speaker 6: so maybe if you have one more drink after you
Speaker 6: start to feel it, there's more that's coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right again, there was one other thing I wanted.
Speaker 4: Is it this right here?
Speaker 6: Even just actually increases rather than no, oh, we already
Speaker 6: covered it.
Speaker 4: Never mind.
Speaker 6: Thirty to forty percent of children under the age of
Speaker 6: thirteen try alcohol with parental permission in the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, I that's kind of a wide range.
Speaker 2: But I think it just means hey, can I Yes,
Speaker 2: that's say. And here's the question, do you ask? That's
Speaker 2: the other thing about it. I don't remember asking for
Speaker 2: a taste of it until I was, you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.
Speaker 4: Oh my kids asked even yet.
Speaker 2: But I remember my dad handing me a beer when
Speaker 2: I was nine or ten and saying try that.
Speaker 6: Both of my kids said can I try it? And
Speaker 6: we've decided for maybe maybe this is how we're ruining
Speaker 6: and making our children alcoholics. Probably like we they said,
Speaker 6: can I try and we just said yes, like we
Speaker 6: would just give it to them. Especially cocktails at a restaurant.
Speaker 6: That's the one where I really break the law. Like
Speaker 6: I've had a couple times where when they know they
Speaker 6: have to wait till the server leaves and then they
Speaker 6: can have a hit off a Dad's old Fashion or
Speaker 6: a margarita or something, and to me, it takes the taboo.
Speaker 6: My son has been to multiple parties. What's interesting too,
Speaker 6: the thing that they kids do now at parties. They drink, sure,
Speaker 6: but not as much they do CBD gummies. That's like
Speaker 6: the new thing. I think it's because it's easier to
Speaker 6: get CBD gummies than it is ones with THHC in it.
Speaker 6: But that's what I'm hearing that a lot of the
Speaker 6: kids do at parties. They're not really drinking. Nobody smoke
Speaker 6: cigarettes anymore. That's like, what are you crazy? I told
Speaker 6: my kid, I'm like, you want to buy you some
Speaker 6: cigarettes so you could take to the party and be cool.
Speaker 6: He's like, you know what, that's the one thing you
Speaker 6: would buy that People would be mad at me.
Speaker 4: You'd be like, why what are you doing?
Speaker 6: If it was a vape man, they would be all
Speaker 6: over but everybody's vaping or they like the CBD gummies today.
Speaker 3: All right, a listener question, we come back. All right, great, you're.
Speaker 8: Listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2: We've talked about the well, Shannon and I have talked
Speaker 2: about the Sean Diddy Combs trial that's on right now.
Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura, his ex girlfriend, was the star witness. Cassie's
Speaker 2: mom actually testified as well about the abuse that she
Speaker 2: saw in her daughter and led to this question, Hey,
Speaker 2: good morning.
Speaker 11: Gary, maybe this could be for you and justin today
Speaker 11: on the parenting episode. Okay, so Cassie Ventur's mom was
Speaker 11: in court and she showed pictures of her daughter, you know,
Speaker 11: lifting up her top and have bruises and blood and
Speaker 11: all kinds of damage on her body, and her mom
Speaker 11: was aware of it, but she didn't do anything and
Speaker 11: get her out of there from what I could tell,
Speaker 11: So what kind of parent is that? That's not the
Speaker 11: kind of parent I am, And I don't think people
Speaker 11: listening want to be that type either.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I wouldn't go so far
Speaker 2: as to say she didn't do anything, I don't know
Speaker 2: what I first thought it was too, but she's also
Speaker 2: an adult. She's an adult. Mom can't force her out
Speaker 2: of a relationship. And mom was the one apparently who
Speaker 2: took the picture, so there was some amount of documentation
Speaker 2: that she knew needed to take place. I just think about, listen,
Speaker 2: there's the whole thing about that trial, or trials like that.
Speaker 2: If let's assume for the purpose of argument, that he's
Speaker 2: guilty of sexually assaulting his ex girlfriend, which he's accused of,
Speaker 2: but let's just assume that he that he's that it happened.
Speaker 2: As a father or as a parent, doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be a father, but as a parent of somebody who
Speaker 2: had gone through that, I would do everything I could
Speaker 2: to make sure that that guy never saw the light
Speaker 2: of day again. As uncomfortable as it would be, as
Speaker 2: potentially embarrassing as it would be. I mean, the things
Speaker 2: that Cassie Ventura was testifying to are gut wrenching, gut
Speaker 2: wrenchingly embarrassing for her, and that she survived it and
Speaker 2: is willing to put you put herself out there to
Speaker 2: put this guy away says something about her character. I
Speaker 2: mean that she's a very very strong person. We also
Speaker 2: mentioned that her husband was in the courtroom many times
Speaker 2: for many the hours of her testimony, not all of it,
Speaker 2: but for many of the hours of it, which has
Speaker 2: got to be gut wrenching, and that her parent, her mom,
Speaker 2: knows these stories about what has gone on, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a kind of a question that comes up.
Speaker 2: I would hate it if a parent was ever in
Speaker 2: that position. But I completely understand the idea that she's there,
Speaker 2: She's going to do everything she can to protect her girl, and.
Speaker 6: I think like her. My two cents on that is
Speaker 6: that like Shannon makes fun of me and the comforter right,
Speaker 6: Like when my son was had his previous girlfriend and
Speaker 6: they would cuddle and while we were all watching a movie,
Speaker 6: and she's like, oh, things are happening under that comforter.
Speaker 6: And even my brother in law gave me a hard
Speaker 6: time and said, I think they're doing more than kiss
Speaker 6: And I just, deep down in my heart and soul,
Speaker 6: I know differently, But again, like you're talking in a hypothetical, hypothetically,
Speaker 6: what if I'm wrong?
Speaker 4: And I think that's that's.
Speaker 6: How this stuff happens, is that we all as parents
Speaker 6: make assumptions about what our kids are feeling, especially as
Speaker 6: they get older, once they get into those teenage years,
Speaker 6: you don't really have a lot of say. And it's
Speaker 6: hard because if you try to hold on too tight
Speaker 6: and keep them close to you, there's a little bit
Speaker 6: of like you hard, You're you're infringing on their development,
Speaker 6: like you're slowing it down, you're stunting it. But also
Speaker 6: they pull away, like it makes them pull away from
Speaker 6: you more, so you have to kind of pick your shots,
Speaker 6: like it almost seems like they're in an orbit, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. And then there's moments where they
Speaker 6: seem to want to talk to you, and that's when
Speaker 6: they're close in orbit. You're like, oh great, and you
Speaker 6: get in while you can and see how it goes.
Speaker 3: From the elliptical orbit like a comet.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, like and you don't.
Speaker 6: But and so all I'm saying is is that I
Speaker 6: think it's very easy on the outside to and I'm
Speaker 6: not judging this person. I think he's just saying like,
Speaker 6: this might be interesting to talk about, And I agree.
Speaker 6: I think it's easy when we're all looking at the
Speaker 6: outside to say it's the mom's fault, like why would
Speaker 6: she continue to allow this to happen because I think,
Speaker 6: like you said when we started, it's assuming that she
Speaker 6: was what we don't know, and what I'm like this
Speaker 6: is me doing the same kind of speculation. I was
Speaker 6: a big fan of Loveline when I was in like
Speaker 6: middle school, and it informed a lot about how I
Speaker 6: perceived relationships. And regardless of your upbringing, they what they
Speaker 6: identified to me as a young kid is that everybody
Speaker 6: has these kind of patterns, and what we don't know
Speaker 6: is that maybe this poor young lady has just had
Speaker 6: a pattern of being attracted to the wrong guy in
Speaker 6: her youth, like a lot of us do. I was
Speaker 6: way into crazy chicks when I was younger, and now
Speaker 6: I just like a good old, boring lady. That's my wife.
Speaker 6: But she's awesome, I do. She's gotta love this, right,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I just don't want any.
Speaker 4: Drama in my life.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think the one aspect of this specific
Speaker 2: case also is the power imbalance that existed between Diddy
Speaker 2: and anyone else, anybody if he's threatening to again. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons that Kid Cutty was supposed to testify
Speaker 2: is Kid Cutty's car blew up in his driveway not
Speaker 2: too long after Sean Diddy Combs threatened to blow up
Speaker 2: his car in the driveway. Clearly, clearly this guy, or
Speaker 2: at least the impression was that this guy had the
Speaker 2: ability to take you out if he needed to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's, you know, one of the reasons why Mom,
Speaker 2: you could. There are other things you can do, but
Speaker 2: the power dynamic is not is not irrelevant in that case.
Speaker 6: And if if like what if, Like I know Mom,
Speaker 6: I don't know when Mom found out about this stuff.
Speaker 6: But I also think it's very easy, like in these
Speaker 6: situations where your kids are hurting, that's one of the
Speaker 6: scary things as a parent is that you have this
Speaker 6: perception and if the kid is just really good at
Speaker 6: covering it up and hiding it, then there's really no
Speaker 6: real way for you to know, because why would you know.
Speaker 6: I've had like my solution has been, if I have
Speaker 6: an inkling something isn't right, I get and I start
Speaker 6: looking at their.
Speaker 3: Text down on it.
Speaker 6: No, no, it's horrible, but I violate their privacy and
Speaker 6: I look at their text messages that they have with
Speaker 6: their friend. I look at their search history on their
Speaker 6: computer or on their phone, and I do it without
Speaker 6: them knowing. It, so because I don't want them to
Speaker 6: know that I can look at that, because I feel
Speaker 6: like then they're going to learn how to hide it
Speaker 6: even better. Yeah, And so I found out there was
Speaker 6: a time where my younger son was struggling, and I
Speaker 6: know that this wasn't the case. And I know people
Speaker 6: listening who maybe have experienced this are going to go,
Speaker 6: you're wrong. But in this case, so far, everything's fine.
Speaker 6: But my son was googling like depression and anxiety and
Speaker 6: not suicidal, but definitely depression. And so when my wife,
Speaker 6: when I told her about that, she's like, oh, she's
Speaker 6: like starting to get nervous.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, he's curious.
Speaker 6: He also has a friend group that a lot of
Speaker 6: the kids struggle with depression like at that time. So
Speaker 6: I said, if it's what you're hanging around, because we remember,
Speaker 6: I learn your social circle at his age thirteen to
Speaker 6: fifteen becomes more influential than the parents. So I think
Speaker 6: it goes back to the same thing. If she's traveling
Speaker 6: around with a group of people that are being this
Speaker 6: abusive to her, it's hard for anybody to get.
Speaker 4: Out of it.
Speaker 6: Keep snooping right, stay connected, keep asking questions and always
Speaker 6: just remind like, if you ever need anything, I'm here
Speaker 6: as sappy after school specials as that sounds. I really
Speaker 6: think it makes a difference. I really do such a
Speaker 6: fancy I am.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go cry. Thank you.
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