Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek Verse podcast. I'm one of your hosts, the Canadian
Taylor Field, and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I am the fudging idiot Dylan Muss.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are here on an ever panel of rotating
hosts for Fallout. There's no Big three, but it's just
always either it's it's you and me, you and Travis,
or me and Travis.
Speaker 2: And you're busy next week, right, So you're not gonna be.
Speaker 1: There for a finale. I won't be here for the finale.
Speaker 2: No, that's too bad.
Speaker 1: Well, Matt Madison did say, like, oh, you can bring
your laptop with you and you could just do it
if it's at night. I'm like, whoa, maybe, so it
is the finale. It is the finale, so I'll have
to maybe maybe I might be there. Maybe I might
be there. We'll get all three, but yeah, we are.
We're doing follow that's let's the name of the game,
penultimate episode tonight. Uh. I guess we're just skipping the
non spoilers portion of this, right, Yeah? Yeah, I feel
like that's our new mo o. Now just to kind
of let's get the meat and potatoes.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's right, the meat and potatoes, get me the squirrel stew.
You know what I mean? Squirrels stew? Yeah, or what
do they call it? The the lice lice soup? Remember
it was not a few.
Speaker 2: Episodes yeack y.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, we'll talk about the Patreon all that
fun stuff later with the ad breaks and everything. But
if you haven't seen the episode, go watch it, come
back and then dive into this review with us. But
where do you want to start doing.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: I think maybe we'll save some of the juicier stuff
for the end, or for later on at the very least,
So maybe I'll start with this because this was an
interesting you know, this season in general, we've talked about
this episode by episode of like man, there's like five
or six like storylines going on, and it feels like
some episodes we completely ignore some of them. Other episodes
were like all in on some of them, Like usually
that would be like Howard Lucy's stuff. Like some of
those episodes it's just like the two of them. This one,
I felt like we actually got like a little bit
of everybody, so it is spread thin in that way.
But I also feel like there's a couple of these
storylines that didn't really move a whole lot, like norm
For example, Lucy's brother, he like makes a phone call
and then gets knocked out, and that's like what happens
with his storyline this episode, Like it's very it's very
little what's going on there.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's much to break down.
Speaker 3: But one of the things I thought was interesting is
I feel like we haven't seen a whole lot of
Vault thirty three recently.
Speaker 2: There was a bit more last week for sure, with
like the.
Speaker 3: All of this stuff with what was it the not
I was Cannibal. It's not Cannibal. It's like the incest
group that they had going on, and there was like
that drama going on there, and then we're leading up
to like this wedding thing, so we got this, but
then we also got like some like a flashback of
Steph living in the before times and all that and
seeing a bit more of that backstory, which didn't really
move the needil much for me. But I'm curious what
you thought about that, And I guess I was just
surprised to get something like that for her, Like she
feels like a very minor character in this series overall,
but it's rare that we get flashbacks to the before times,
so it's surprised we got one for her. But yeah,
would you think of that storyline going on with Steph?
Speaker 1: And yeah, that was just kind of a curve ball
just getting her I guess her origin a little bit
kind of featured there, and then it was just very
it was rushed because all of a sudden, you know,
she's crossing the border and then now here she is
being a room attendee in Vegas. So that's that's something,
And like, I don't know where that kind of fits
into what her motivations are, but obviously she's got a
connection because Gougin's character was like, you want a job
at Waltech, Well, you know, he's your guy and looks
at at Hank and so obviously there's some kind of
pre existing thing that we're not aware of the plan
that they're alluding to that she is definitely conscious of
involving Vault thirty one. So why they chose to give
us this little backstory, I mean, they didn't need to
show her motivation for doing what needs to be done,
like killing people, you know, and her mom being like,
you know, I raise you a Catholic, but you can
throw all that out the window now, you know, you
gotta hurt people. God allows that, like all this kind
of stuff. I didn't really need to see that. I
just I would have been okay to see that. Okay,
she works for Hank. That's that's questionable enough, because Hank
is a questionable character, So anyone that works under him
is going to be equally as questionable in my books.
But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's interesting. Do you
think she put to that what was his name? Was
his name Morgan or whatever? Like that guy who was
asking questions with the glasses? Did she put the whole
guy down the garbage disposal disposal? Is that what I'm
supposed to believe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because I'm trying to remember. Was it
like when she found him in the hallway. Is that
the last time we saw them together? Or was there
a scene after that that I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I thought it was when he just walked in and
started like questioning her in her sweet Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's that's it. So I think she.
Speaker 3: God that I feel like that would take a long
time to get the whole body because he's a big
boy too to get the whole guy down the down
the disposal. So I don't know if she I don't
know if she did that. Maybe she maybe the glasses,
I don't know. Maybe he's like in the garden it
was just like decomposing the body and like the soil
or something like that. But I don't know, Like, do
you think he's actually alive? Like we just saw the glasses,
so technically he could still be alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could technically still be alive, because what was
the pitch that she he was on a leadership exchange
program with three to one or something like that.
Speaker 3: So unless I'm forgetting, we didn't see him like die
on screen, and I'm just told to know.
Speaker 1: And if you don't see someone die on screen and
they're technically still alive, I feel like he's dead. Though.
I just got the kind of vibes just because of
the theme of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could see that happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's sing Like she's always kind of been
a devious type of maybe not the start of season one,
but I feel like for a long time now she's
been seen as kind of a devious character, always something
going on. Obviously, the eyepatch also makes her a little
bit more menacing the way, and she's always like scowling,
you know, she's very rude to her well, I was
about to say husband, not quite husband.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like there is like they're trying to set
her up as like a villain antagonist character. But at
the same time, I feel like the point of giving
the backstory was to like make you a little bit
more sympathetic for her, But I don't know if that's
really what I got from it. I think what I
gleamed from that sequence in general is that she is
she is a fighter. She is very tenacious. She has
like really good survival skills in the sense that like
you know, making it through that snowy action sequence, making
it through uh just the border somehow getting integrated into
valtech and whatnot, which obviously is like a very life
preserving thing for her. So it seems like she just
is extremely resilient and is very cut throat, like they
kind of hinted too when she's she's brushing her teeth,
which also you see you're like without the eye patch
and see the eye hole, and it's it's quite quite nasty.
And then she's yeah doing the the tooth, she's brushing
her teeth, and you're getting flashed going to the flashback
coming back to real time. And then like when she's
going past the border guard, she like spits some blood
out into like the the sink or whatever it is. Uh,
And I guess that's supposed to sigmafay that she killed
the guy. Do you think she killed that border guard?
Speaker 1: I thought that there was a quick pan of like
the guy's dead body in the booth that she was
walking by, or did that oh okay blank and see
something else. I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Okay, I must have been writing a note when that
particular moment happened.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Like she's very very cut through a character.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't know how much that pre
time stuff really connects with what's going on now. But
I think I think they're lacking that angle of like
why should I care about this person? Like, I think
it's tricky when so many of our key players because
I liked Norm, but he's long gone from thirty three.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been there like this whole season really, so
uh yeah, I don't know. I just don't. I'm just
not invest in her.
Speaker 3: On like the she's an antagonist two characters that I
also like, I don't care what happens to Chet, and
I have.
Speaker 2: No investment in this character.
Speaker 3: And then there's like no one else, Like yeah, the
sequence with the guy who's setting up like the incest group.
I think it's kind of funny, I guess, but like,
I don't really care too much about the fates of
any of these characters, so I just don't know who
this is really serving. And so to put like a
bunch of extra content on this character, uh in the
penultimate episode, I felt like odd pacing to me, Like,
I feel like we got bigger fish to fry at
this point in the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would agree.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I like her relationship with with with her name Barb
trying to remember the leader of the other vault, Vault
thirty three, because I feel like that's the only real
kind of that's the only character in the Vault that
I'm really enjoying, because you have Norm's gone doing his
own thing. But the stuff with Barb, uh and Betty
Betty Betty, thank you, Betty, Betty Betty and then the
other chick who is from Vegas, the with the blonde hair,
the eyepatch. I'm just so bad with these names right now.
I like their dynamic and I like what's going on
between them because I feel like they both kind of
have like a similar understanding of what like what. Well,
Betty doesn't know what the grand plan is for the vault,
so there's that, but she definitely knows something is off.
But I don't care for any of the side stuff
inside the little little meetings that that guy is doing
with the food and the snacks, the salty snacks. Don't
care about it at all. So yeah, I'm just I'm
waiting to figure out what's gonna come of this, and
I don't know, it'd be nicely a little bit more,
a little bit more of a growth with the characters
and with their connections with each other instead of just
the two. And the two aren't even like a really
really strong grap for a grab for me engagement wise,
but it's something I personally would have been fine if
we just left the vaults and just moved on into
what's going on in the wasteland and just came back
to the vaults later. But yeah, this is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I feel like there hasn't really been much that's
happened this season.
Speaker 2: Do you feel that way? Like I feel like season
one there was a.
Speaker 3: Lot that occurred in hindsight, but I kind of feel
like that, I don't know. Now that we're almost at
the end of the season, I just feel like not
a whole lot has happened overall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Yeah, because it's been it's
been spread out pretty far right, like it's they stretched
it out a little bit in some areas, and that
kind of goes hand in hand with the girl with
the one I because I feel like, okay, Steph, they
could have just they could have put a little bit
more seeds and sprinkles throughout, but then it's just one episode.
They just kind of dump all this in there, and
again it was forty minutes. I would have been okay
with it being a little bit longer, because I feel
like by the time it was concluded, I thought, man,
that was it, that's done. We got a cool fight scene,
but everything else was just kind of like gearing up,
and it didn't feel like a penultimate episode. It didn't
feel like it was leading into a finale really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, what do you what do you foresee
kind of has the finale for that storyline then? Like
do you think that they're gonna exile her? Are they
gonna lock her up? Are they gonna like execute her?
Or is she just gonna make her way out of
here and just escape on her own without having to
interact with anyone else.
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like she's the kind of character that
would escape on her own. I really do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I wonder if you'll go to Betty and
then Betty will just like reject her because she's kind
of been snotty to Betty in his last few episodes.
Speaker 1: Well I could, I could see that. I wonder, like,
who because she's in that overseer office. So does that
overseer office have like prime control over opening up the
doors to get through their vaults? Like what's kind of
like the limitations being in there? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I mean there is the drama where Steph was supposed
to like share more water than she did, so she
doesn't have a con fol control.
Speaker 2: I mean I think she has.
Speaker 3: Betty has full control of Vault thirty and forgive if
I get the numbers wrong thirty one, whereas death is
like everything with thirty three and uh yeah, so I
obviously there's like some disconnect between the two of them,
even though they can like send messages to each other
and coordinate things. But yeah, it seems like they kind
of just operate in their own siloed worlds.
Speaker 1: M hmm, definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think that's all I have to say for
that storyline. So where do you want to jump to next?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say we could swing on over to let's
let's swing over to our three amigos, the two Knights
Brothers of Steel, well for one former and the Goggin's character.
They they really laid it on thick and just this
isn't maybe this isn't the main story with them, but
just the Thaddeus's transition into something that's maybe not a ghoul,
it's it's kind of unsettling. Yeah, because he's he picks
this bolt action rifle. The other two guys are decked
out to the like top of the line tech and
everything like that, and then his arm falls off and
he's like, yeah, I'm a goal to haven't lost my
nose yet. But I got this like thing this mouth
on my neck normal rights, Like that was creepy.
Speaker 2: That was baby teeth.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I'm curious to see what's
gonna happen and what the follow out is with that character.
But uh yeah, I like that they were all teaming up,
and I liked that there the moment between the guy
brother the brother of Steel Maximus, yeah, Maximus, and then
Goggin's character. Uh just it was the last end of
episode last week kind of thing where we get to
see them kind of coinciding and connecting and then here
I was digging all of it. Well, it was brief.
I like their their interactions with each other, and I
like their motivations and how she had to give up
that ultimate power, you know, the ColdFusion to Goggin's character,
and that just makes me wonder, Okay, well, what is
he up to now? Why did he know that he
could talk to the guy going to his tower and
putting that fusion tech in there. I mean, the guy
wanted to live forever, so is this his way of
living forever as a computer program instead of being in
a vault. So I'm just kind of curious. That's like
what is he gonna ask. He's gonna ask for help
to get in there and get his his family because
he can calculate the odds. So maybe he's like, if
you do this, you'll have this percentage of rescuing them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not exactly sure what he thought
would happen in that moment. I mean, I think he
thought putting that in there would like power up presumably
this like elevator and like the rest of the buildings
that he could go down and save Lucy. But then
he saw the screen pop up and the mister House
popping up on there, which, Yeah, there's some things in
there that are definitely like New Vegas things that I
won't I won't allude to. I don't want to like
potentially spoil anything there, but a cool moment for sure
to get like mister House's robot face going on there
and just him answering is like a big resolution. And
obviously like we had that sequence in that same building,
you know, back before the war with them as well,
which was like a heated sequence that the two of
them had. So yeah, I don't know if he expected
to see mister House there. I think he was more
just trying to go find Lucy. But then also part
of this is he wants to find Lucy, but he
also knows that this is like what's going to lead
him to finding his family because he has like confirmation
that they're out there now at least. So I yeah,
I mean, it seems like we are going to get
like that pretty good reunion between the two of them
next week, And we'll see what happens with Hank because
he's currently locked up, But you'd have to think he's
smart enough to find a way to get out of
that sequence, or maybe he's like an earshot of one
of his slaves that he can get.
Speaker 2: To like unlock him or something like that. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: There's a high chance that he'll just break that bloody
stove and get out of there. I was starting to
get convinced with Lucy or Lucy was just like leaning
more into what he was doing, and she fooled me.
But at the end of the day, I guess, like, Okay, no,
it makes sense. She was just kind of roping him,
trying to get his guard down so that he could
or she could make this play and lock him up
and all that jazz.
Speaker 3: So mm hmmm, yeah, yeah, no, I I I liked
that some of the like bonding that they had to
because it felt awkward and it felt like, you know,
it's not really gonna go anywhere, but still like just
having like the father daughter moment of like him teaching
her how to drive in like a very fallow up
way with just like yeah, a golf cart in like
the Voltech offices or whatever, instead of how you normally
would in the real world. But like that was that
was a cute sequence because they were they were a
fun combo of that in like season one when you
got them together, like they had good chemistry together, and
obviously it's been a very different, icy relationship that we've
got here. But yeah, I think I I kind of
expected him more because when I was on two weeks
ago and I was talking with Travis with what I
thought was gonna happen. I thought he was gonna like,
you know, lock her up, been like he would have
to like convince her over time to like trust trust
him whatever. But he he put a lot of faith
in her to just like, hey, I think I can
be able to schmooz her. I'm just gonna like let
her free she's not locked up. She can leave if
she wants to. She can lock him up. He obviously
put the cuffs on himself last week and all that,
and gave her a lot of control in that sequence
last week as well with when they brought in like
the two new guys who hadn't been like mind controlled yet.
So yeah, yeah, that's this whole sequence has gone a
lot differently than I thought it would, and I think
it reflects on a Hank pretty well.
Speaker 2: Is like a very charismatic guy.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, he's done a lot of bad stuff,
which we've seen he like dropped the bomb on Sandy
Shores and all that stuff. But still, like you just
you kind of want to work with him, You kind
of want to trust him. You kind of think that
he's working in your best interest. So obviously he's schmoozed
like a million people before. It's like what he does best.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, no, and he always just in the flashbacks.
It's hard for me to ever kind of like gauge
him because I just feel like he's got his own
agenda and whatnot, and even now here like guess what
he's doing. It doesn't it doesn't sit with me because
I feel like he's he's just got a weird agenda
going on, and it's just some grand plan that they
keep alluding to, but we just don't know what the
end result is. And that's what I'd like to, like
to find out what's going on.
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, now she's got the pit boy,
which I think is like the big difference maker because
presumably just his pit boy alone has a lot of
control to do all sorts of things. You can see
his quest log, which She's gonna find some dirty things
in that quest log.
Speaker 1: That's for sure, that's right. Yeah, No, that's true. So
I guess that works. Yeah, not just in her or
this vault, but all vaults.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I guess so, because even like I was
kind of surprised even when Norm got on that radio
and that radio just like instantly patched in to like
the vault. Yeah there, Like that seemed very easy. He
didn't have to like mess around with the signal or anything.
It just like the voice and straight there. So clearly
he's got some kind of you know, oh yeah, Hank's
almost like an overseer of the wasteland, right, Like he's
got a lot of he's got his tendrils.
Speaker 2: Kind of everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good way of putting it,
I guess.
Speaker 3: And now that he's got like hundreds of people who
will just do whatever he says, like, that's that makes
him a very powerful guy, even if all these people
are like kind of incompetent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I mean, it is sad too with
them just doing this against their will and whatnot. And
feel bad for the one dude who is a former
and see uh uh yeah no New California Folk.
Speaker 2: California Republic, that's the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and see, I feel bad that he is being
controlled there and whatnot. It's a faction I would love
to see kind of like bounce back in this in
this world. But they say the Legion is still out
there after them self fighting and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, I
know there you and the people like that.
Speaker 3: Ever one was cheering when when Maximus is rolling up
in the NCR power armor, like people were thrilled to
see see them.
Speaker 1: The power of how did he word that? This is
the power of brand recognition?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so true?
Speaker 3: Like that followed is so much about like brand names
and propaganda. Like obviously all the Vault tech stuff and
the pit boy and the thumbs up and all that stuff,
like it's just propaganda city. So it makes a lot
of sense that the people can see something as simple
as like an NCR logo on Power Armor and then
they just yeah, think, oh wow, we're gonna be saved now.
Speaker 1: This is this is great? Yeah, that's right. Yeah that
that cracks me up. I like that, and it was
cool because I was trying to see, like the helmet
reminded me of fall of Vegas's style of helmet. But
that's I remember the cover art of just the helmet
and it was like the trench coat and then the
helmet the bucket helmet with it too. Right, that's not
this armor, is it? Because I feel like the theme
that played with he cut off the blanket was like
Fallout Vegas's theme.
Speaker 3: Now that you mentioned it, I feel like the helmet,
like the mask part of the helmet at the very least,
is kind of similar. But I honestly don't have a
memory of their being like NCR Power Armor, Like I
can't recall if I've bumped into that in any of
the games.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have.
Speaker 3: And it's specifically in New Vegas because that's a big
faction there, but I can't recall because I mean Fallow
four obviously the power armor is a big part of that,
but it's not in New Vegas or Fallout three, right,
Like there's enemies that wield it, but it's not like
the same mechanically built out as it is in Fallout four.
Speaker 2: So I don't even know if there.
Speaker 3: Is NCR power armor in the game of New Vegas overall.
Speaker 2: Hmm, but the mask definitely looked a little bit different.
I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know it did. But that being said,
I dig it. I like that they have their own
power armor, and I used to think that it was
the Brotherhood of Steels kind of thing, and then come
to realize, oh, the brother of Steel is just recommission
reconfiguring and re salvaging the United States military tech, right
because that was former previous World Order government stuff that
they've repurposed.
Speaker 2: So yeah, uh, Clancy Brown, by the way.
Speaker 1: I was not expecting that. He always just pops up
in everything, whether it's Star Wars, Dexter, you know, and
here he is, like, yeah, even like that guy who
you were just talking about, like the guy who was
mind controlled like the one that kind of put Lucy
over the edge of like this seems weird, Like this,
I met this guy a couple of weeks ago in
the Hills, Like that guy was in White Lotus recently,
So to have him in this show at like in
that sequence a couple episodes ago, I was like, Oh,
that's weird that he just has this tiny.
Speaker 3: Little role and obviously he's come back. It's still a
pretty small role. But funny that, like they get an
actor from like a critically acclaimed show recently, like a
big character from big show. And yeah, to get Clancy
Brown in here for what must have taken him all
of fifteen minutes to like get in costume, film the scene,
and get.
Speaker 2: Out of the studio. Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll see him again next episode
either based on like kind of where we're left off,
I don't know if we'll continue with that flashback at all.
I guess that's possibly just a bit of a tease
for season three, but it feels like you could have
easily shrouded that in not showing who the president was
and the like, if you want to beat that to
be a big storyline in season to do. Then you
cast the actor, but hey, get ahead of it, get
Clancy Brown sign in that contract to lock in.
Speaker 2: I suppose why not if you have the chance, right, Yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm uh, yeah, that's that's the storyline that
I'm interested to see how it kind of goes sideways
because everything about the interaction just didn't jive with me.
It felt like something was off. And then when Lucy
gets into the main frame, now you see the head connected?
Is that head that senator lady?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Uh? Why?
Speaker 3: That's an I mean, I presumably she's a really good secretary,
so we're gonna have this secretary for all time. So
I guess it was like, well, what happened was so
at the Lucky thirty eight, did they have the cold
fusion like that you know that little blue battery that
just has like endless power.
Speaker 2: That's what that is, right?
Speaker 3: Was that in the Lucky thirty eight, like presumably after
the war started it like after you know, all the
bombs dropped and stuff, and then at some point someone
came to the Lucky thirty eight took it out. And
that's why the Lucky thirty eight has kind of been
decommissioned in the meantime, I presume that the cold fusion
was in there at some point and then it just
and presumably that was powering her head and keeping her alive.
And then when that got taken, that's when she died
and a lot of the facilities broke down. And we'll see,
you know, remains to be seen next week, like the
things that Howard's about to go. Fine, we'll see what
the rest of this place is looking like. Obviously, mister
House whatever's going on with him enough to have a screen,
whether that's him or just a screen, who knows, just
an ai.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure, but.
Speaker 3: I I feel like that's maybe the order of events,
like the cold fusion. I don't know when it was taken,
but it was taken out of there, and I don't
know if there's just one of those or if there's
multiple of these cold fusion battery mcguffins, I'm not I'm
not sure about the specifics of that.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, No, that clears the air a little bit,
so I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it seemed like she was connected to I
couldn't tell if that it was like there was like
other bodies in that room, like in like other cryo
tubes or something that she was powering. Seems like she
was just kind of like a secretary, like powered to
all the computers and all the software of the building
or something like that, like almost like like Tony Starks,
like Friday or whatever it is. You know, just like
the the AI power in the suit, but controlled by
a human because of course it's followed and you gotta
have some monstrosity.
Speaker 2: Of a person being put in a fuation.
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, yeah, But you know what, before we continue,
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I want while still just with that final sequence as well,
I loved the editing of that final sequence with Howard
when we're going with the flashbacks of him meeting up
with the president and having conversation with that secretary and
then also like him in real time getting into look
at thirty eight looking around, kind of these memories flooding
back to him, and obviously we're going to those memories
putting in the cold Fusion thing.
Speaker 2: The freaking song choice was. That was a weird song.
Speaker 3: And normally, like a lot of the music that's used
in this show, like the Big not like the score,
that you kind of don't really think about so much
as in the background. But like when they pop a
big song for like a big action sequence or something,
I'm recognizing like most of these songs right cause it's like,
oh yeah, this is a big fault.
Speaker 2: I love the songs is like always.
Speaker 3: On the radio and follow out three or New Vegas
or whatever, mostly New Vegas this season. But that song
I did not recognize. I don't think that's from a game,
which I would not be surprisedable because it's a very
jarring song, Like if that, if that just came out
on the radio, it would take you out of the
flow of like having fun in the waistline.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 3: It was a weird song. It made me feel very uneasy,
which that whole sequence was meant to do. And then
just the editing and the back and forth between those
two sequences, I thought that was a really really well
done sequence. So yeah, just big shout out to whoever
was editing and that that bad Boy, because I think
they just absolutely crushed it.
Speaker 1: So cool. Yeah, well said m M.
Speaker 3: And then I guess the last thing that we have
yet to talk about here is I guess just like
the death Claw fight, what'd you think of the Maximus
fighting some death clause because we talked about this, so
this is we're kind of baited a bit a few
weeks ago when they first encountered the death clause, just
threw a grenade as a distraction. They pieced out, but
we actually got like a full foolish fight.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're gonna get more.
Speaker 3: Of it next week, it seems like, but yeah, what
did you What did you think of what we got here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was digging at it. I was afraid at
the start where it was like, okay, we're only getting
one death claw in here, because you see it eating
the other one. I'm thinking, oh crap, Okay, so yeah,
they're gonna be basically acting the other five that we
saw and just give us the one and this this fight.
But no, that wasn't the case. We got to see
kind of like him square off against a couple, uh,
and I like it. It was It was pretty cool. I
like seeing Goggins his character is like pulse plasma energy
gun that he was firing off. That was kind of cool.
And I thought taking the chunks.
Speaker 2: Out of it was yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that, you know, with the CGI and
the practical effects of them moving around in a very
lighted setting too. They looked really good. They didn't look bad.
Speaker 2: So I think they looked better in the nighttime. There
was a couple for sure. For sure, it wasn't quite perfect.
Speaker 3: But yeah, in terms of like slashing its limbs off
or shooting the chunks out of it, I thought all
that part of it looked good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I liked I liked that with the blades,
you know, on his gauntlets. Yeah, like grabs his wrist
and he slices down and slices the death claws fingers off.
That was pretty cool. So yeah, there was a lot
with that sequence that I that I enjoyed. And I
so he was lying because he said that Lucy was
down in that vault, but the vault's not there because
this is just houses.
Speaker 2: I I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like an interconnected tunnel system under Like it
seems like a huge facility, right, so maybe they are
interconnected underground.
Speaker 1: Well, they were trying to make you think that the
Googgins and her were the open up the mainframe was
gonna be kind of the same thing. I felt like
with the way that they were kind of filming that scene,
or maybe it was just something hmmm.
Speaker 3: I see what you mean. Yeah, I mean I do
think they are there, right, because when we had the
whole sequence of like Hank actually going out and like
greeting Lucy out in Freeside with like the servant guy
who like locked her up and stuff like, So I
assume they are there there. So maybe it's not that
exact same building, but you know, it's like it's a
the strip at least if you consider it by the
game sense, Like in the game, it takes you all
of thirty seconds to walk from one end of New
Vegas to the other. Like it's a pretty small area,
and the show honestly doesn't make it seem much bigger
than that, Like they didn't blow up the scale a
whole lot. So I feel like, yeah, maybe it's not
the Lucky thirty eight perhaps, but I do feel like
there's a good chance that there's some sort of underground
connectivity there, some secret underground Resident Evil inspired base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would make sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the I I enjoyed the fight.
Speaker 2: I thought it was decent. I wanted to be a
bit longer.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be a little bit more engaging, perhaps,
But I do think whatever is gonna happen next week
is gonna be bad. I mean, the the door is
broken down, which obviously, if the death clock could like
is powerful enough to throw him in NCR power armor
through that gate. The death Clau is powerful enough to
like just punch that door down.
Speaker 1: That's place saying why can't why can they break out
of there?
Speaker 3: The death clall could like see through it when it
was like they were seeing it walk around from like outside.
So I don't know, I never really be you know,
it's a loading zone. So video game logic, I CATN
makes a whole lot of sense, but by real world
logic it doesn't. But yeah, now that that gate's broken
down and the death Claus are peeking out the door
and all these people, I don't know what's gonna happen
to them, but there could be a blood bath next
week for sure in the streets of Freeside.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like that. Wouldn't like that. That would be uh,
that would be bad. But I'm, like I said, I'm
just surprised that they just didn't smash that gate open before.
It doesn't really make much sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're they're eating each other, which seems like
not a very uh like I guess is that the
only thing they've eat is each other. I mean, I
feel like in the game they never attack each other,
so I'm not sure if they.
Speaker 1: Don't have Yeah, I don't have much to say in
the in the game, because I are they in packs?
Are they are they usually multiple in one air?
Speaker 3: I've seeing them in packs, but they're never attacking each
other to my knowledge.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I'm not sure then, but.
Speaker 2: You'd think there's some good eating, like right over the fence,
so they would maybe want.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's some good eating alright, Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I think that was all my
notes for this one. I'm I'm excited for next week.
I think I've honestly, this episode in general didn't really
do it for me, but that last fifteen minutes I
thought was quite spicy, and so I'm I'm I'm quite
excited leading into the finale here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I think it's gonna be something
that it's I think that's something that's gonna be pretty juicy,
and hopefully they wrap it up in a nice bow
if they see that it's like thirty five to forty minutes.
I'm gonna be a little bit concerned.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping they'll be set consistently fifty. I feel like
for the last few weeks forty five at the minimum.
So I think we'll get a nice juice.
Speaker 1: Or it's just they're gonna obviously ended with a cliffhanger
for season three. Uh there's because there's just too much
story still to tell. Uh, she's gonna destroy the main
frame and then we're gonna get Hank somehow brought to
justice and brought back to vaults. Thirty one thirty three.
I think you got to have Lucy go back to
her vaults to see what's going on and check in
on everyone and the plan, and then Norm, Like, what's
gonna happen with Norm? We've got to figure that out.
And yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think Norm's getting saved this season.
I feel like that's the next season thing.
Speaker 1: Definitely a next season thing. I mean, he was just
he was knocked out last week. He got knocked out again.
You know, this isn't this isn't good for your skull
and just boom, he just knocks him out.
Speaker 3: But I mean, honestly, this as we've talked about like
the scale is weird. Like there is a lot of
fast travel that occurs in the show. Like even when
Howard and Crewe, you know, they they meet up with
each other. Then in the last episode, in this episode
they're like, hey, we go to Lucky thirty eight and
we're like, oh, going the wrong way and he's like, oh,
we gotta go load up first. I definitely thought we
were just leading up to like, Okay, they're gonna get
equipped next week, we'd go to the strip and we
get that for the finale, but like, no, they just teleport.
They were back in Free Side in like five minutes.
It felt like ready to take down some death clause.
So people be moving. So I don't know, maybe maybe
Lucy gets out there and finds Norm, but that would
seem like a bit much considering.
Speaker 2: It seems like he's quite far away from where they are.
But again, fast travel, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the whole fast travel thing for sure, because
when when yeah, when Maximus is like, yeah, Vegas is
the Strip's back that way, and it seemed like they
were in a whole different environment now right, Like there's
greenery and everything like that, And I thought they call
it the New California Republic. But like, is that in
another state entirely? Is that back in California? Because the
DADA is close but not walking distance close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they've kind of spread their wings, you know,
because it's new California.
Speaker 2: It's not old California.
Speaker 1: It's new California. Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all for me, Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is all for me too. Well cool, Yeah,
you and Travis will certainly be here next week, and
I might just sneak my way in as well. I'll
keep you guys posted. Yeah, but it'll be a good time.
So until then, everyone, we'll see you soon. Have a
good one.
Speaker 2: Good night.