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Speaker 1: I know the things differently, so you can never find

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these frickin things. That's what's so annoying. It's like you

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can't just search the simple you know, NATO Cognitive Warfare Document,

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like it's not going to come up. A lot of

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these ended up in the members section, a lot of

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them ended up on Rockfin So but I know one

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of the positive is that we ended up covering a

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lot of those many times. So there should be multiple

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podcasts and talks on, say the NATO Cognitive Warfare Document,

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which is all about transhumanism by the way, that's the one,

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by the way that talks about weaponizing online trolling. So

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what does that tell you? Rage baiting trolling? Oh you

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thought this was just all organic? No, No, you understand everything

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is being studied by militaries, army bases, naval research, British intelligence,

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the CIA, They're all studying everything that's happening that we're doing,

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all of it, the whole internet trolling four Chan, that's

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all ops, bro, what's up? H Browsey? You hear me?

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Speaker 2: All right? All right? So I have two like one

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on one statement, one question. So for the first part,

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and I'm a preface by saying I'm not making light of,

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you know, the death of Charlie.

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Speaker 1: At all of what I can't hear you the death

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of Charlie Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So but like just a minute ago

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when you were talking about these like the dumbass conspiracy

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theories or whatever, I have a personal favorite, and it's

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it's because this guy just keeps rage faiting people and

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it's working over and over.

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Speaker 1: So who's that seeing.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't follow them. I

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have no clue who to do it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to follow them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not assuming whoever it is is a leftist,

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but he like he ultimately is somewhat making light of

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his of his death. But what he's doing is like

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every I've seen him in like maybe three and I've

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seen like a bunch of these like dumb conspiracy theories

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or whatever. But I've seen him in three separate ones,

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and one of them he got like like fifteen thousand

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likes on his on his post, but he's just making

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shut up. So he took it. He like got a

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screen shot and he and he like like you could

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you can actually just use like a little airbrush on

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on your iPhone camera map and put like what looks

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like smoke. And what he's saying is that what happened

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to Charlie was there was like he's wearing a vest

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and and it exploded underneath his shirt. And and that's

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why I said the whole airbrush thing. So there's like

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this little extra white ship, just a little gray off

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to the off to the right of Charlie's right. He's saying,

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that's what happened, m hm, and it's and it's working,

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and I don't know why. It's so damn funny, like

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just seeing people continues to fall like fall for dumb

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ship like this, but uh, like I mean overall, like

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the complete like the idea that there needs to be

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some and I get, you know, questioning things, but like

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I mean, not everything needs to be either, like Doug

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so far deep into like this matter. So it is

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kind of annoying seeing so many damn people, you know,

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come up with a whole bunch of things like what

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Cannis was saying with those like with the like for

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him possibly being shot from the sewers. I mean, that's

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that's why that dude when the dude earlier said the

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whole like Candas is taking their schizo pill. I kind

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of agree with because I cannot believe she said that

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that was that was insane. What what was.

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Speaker 1: The thing that she said that was crazy?

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Speaker 2: Like so there was some sewers or something like something

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like that argument, Yeah, exactly, that's I'm not. I laughed

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hard as hell when I when I saw that video,

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and I cannot believe she uh she like, it's just

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it's just not that deep, you know. But the second part,

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which is again it's it's kind of providential with it.

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We were talking about the whole truck that you know,

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you brought up Old Charlie Kurt thinking men there Ago

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and so and I'm being dead and I'm I'm I'm

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dead serious when I say this, dude. So I see

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I see you online a lot, you know, people ask like,

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what what is it like? Like I guess the best

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way to put it is a well adjusted black to

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be like around like what you what you see in

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viral video or like the average black person. And I

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and this is actually pretty sad for me personally because

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he's a my life literally lifelong friend. So the day,

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the day happened to Charlie both of them. I got, like,

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two guys I went to elementary school, middle school, and

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high school with I just I just can't associate with

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anymore man like you know, they were making you know,

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they were talking about you know, he deserved it. They

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called the called him racist and all all type ship.

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I've been going back and forth with them for years

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and obviously as I take a complete opposite position of that,

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and I've been going back and forth with them for

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years over this. I've been destroyed them on the whole

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Trump being racist. The destroyed them on the whole the

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republic Republican establishment actually being racist. Uh Like, obviously, as

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far as we're concerned, they're retarded, they don't actually know

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what's going on. And there's there's a massive amount of

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blacks that don't just completely cyten to believe about, particularly

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by their mothers, that uh, you know, the they're just

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they're racist because they're white. And like so yesterday one

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of one of my guys, he he sent like there

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was the whole thing with eric A. Kirk and Trump

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being on stage.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I think like that like

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her reaction to it. It does seem kind of weird

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to me. Whatever, but I didn't, you know, I didn't

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respond to it. And and the other one of the

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other guys in the group that he just replied just

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like blatantly, you know, Charlie Kirk and I just like

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it's just unbearable, you know. It gets to a point

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where like even though I've known these guys my entire life, uh,

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you know, they've met my kids. I met one of

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their only one of them as a kid, you know

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Speaker 1: It's just like Cana or do they think she's crazy?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, this is a funny thought, that is off.

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What do you think? What do you think they feel

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about Canis?

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't have no idea.

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Speaker 2: That's that's how they feel about chemist.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's like, you know, the term

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coon or yeah, but what when a black person says

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that about Candace? What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: She's a she's a house in word like like she

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she she feels, I guess like the best word to

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put like she.

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Speaker 1: Shields for white like an uncle Tom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So that's that's that's their position on Candas,

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that's their position on Ben Carson. That's their position, Thomas,

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that's their position. It doesn't matter who, it doesn't matter

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who it is if and they are leftist, don't like,

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don't get me wrong, they are like absolutely anti gay,

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anti you know, t where all of that, all of

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that stuff. But above all, right, maybe I'm not gonna

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say above all like absolute, but maybe above all they're

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anti white and that's it and that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that black people were always this

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way or is it just ramped up nowadays and it

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people were on the down low always against whites, but

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they just didn't outwardly show it. But like, it doesn't

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seem like I remember in the eighties and the nineties, Uh,

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it didn't seem as uh out there, you know what

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really ramped up, not and it was it was it

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this way in the eighties and nineties, and black people

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just didn't vocalize it as much.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I wasn't born I'm wait, you know,

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I'm born in two thousands. Ik oh, I can't necessarily speak.

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I can't necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Speak to got you like you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but I mean my mother, well I can't

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like that. Obviously my father, he was born and raised

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in Africa. My like my dad is an American. He doesn't,

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he's not. He has nothing against white he definitely has,

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as you can tell by me, like I got it

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from somebody. He's definitely. He doesn't like black American black.

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Let me let me be specific. He doesn't like American black,

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so obviously I don't either. And my mom, my mom

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was never My mom was never racist, though she she

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didn't like Hispanics. Uh, you know, we grew up around

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a lot of them. We like, I came up in poverty,

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so like you know, you're you're in an environment, in

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that type of environment where it's like basically nothing but

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like Hispanics. But it wasn't a problem for me growing

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about media and like other ship like that, maybe it

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just got worse over time. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not

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entirely sure, but it's it's just gotten to a point

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now where they just did, like it's just really hard

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to coexist. And I'm like, it's kind of weird saying

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that because obviously I'm black, but obviously I don't live

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around these motherfuckers. Man. That that's why I I made

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sure I did enough, Like and I've come up, like

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I said, I'm only twenty five, but and I'm not

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I'm not doing a frag thing or whatever. I do

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make a lot of money, so when I was twenty three,

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got my own place, and I don't I don't think

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there's more than what like five bat black families in

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my entire neighborhood. So yeah, you won't see if you

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Speaker 1: Definitely not everybody in the chat says man, I thought

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you were fifty. You were born in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm twenty five years old.

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Speaker 2: The chat before.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't think they should be surprised am of it. Yeah,

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I mean that's basically I had. And that's it's not

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like that's super.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: Like I know, I've seeing like hundreds of damps about

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like I left this or whatever, and you people think

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it's just purple hair freaks.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's normal. It's just normal as hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I appreciate that. I mean, it does seem

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like I agree with people in the chat. Uh, it

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does seem like this has been ramped up because, as

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which meant I was usually one of two white dudes

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on the team. And in the eighties and nineties it

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seemed like pretty much people got along. I mean, I

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lived in California as a kid when I played basketball,

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and I was always on basketball teams with different leagues

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and whatnot. I don't recall much like racial issues. In fact,

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the funny part was where I was black people and

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white people were the minority, and it was all Filipino,

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Filipino and there's fewer blacks and whites. And then in

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high school, middle school, in high school there were maybe

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a few more white guys, but still predominantly I think

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black guys on the basketball team, at least that's my memory.

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black dude talks smack to a guy at high school.

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start fights with people. And then all the red neck

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dudes were like, all right, meet us at the McDonald's

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parking lot. So a bunch of black dudes and a

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bunch of white dude this is a funny story. And

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a bunch of red neck dudes went to the McDonald's

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parking lot to fight, and everybody thought nothing was going

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to happen. But it turns out Reggie brought a baseball

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bat and he cracked one of the red necks over

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the head with a bat, and so this became this

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huge like racial issue, which I mean it was to

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a degree, but I mean, and yeah, hitting a dude

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with a baseball bat is pretty crazy, but like the

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whole town was, so I was all worried about it.

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So they put up I'm not laughing at the dude

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getting his head cracked in because that's that sucks. But

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the town put I don't know, this is so stupid

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that they thought this was going to do that. My

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hometown put up American flags all over the roads everywhere

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because they thought that would remind everybody that we're all Americans.

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It was so gay. It was just like, dude, nobody

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gets a shit on that. But uh, and by the way,

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I wasn't involved that. I was not a redneck in

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high school, right, So if you don't know, like in

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high school, there's clicks, and I was high school in

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the South in Tennessee, so Tennessee story time, that's right.

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Everybody says to everybody has clicks. And like he was

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talking about the the the uncle Tom. Like in high

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school too, you had the black dudes that acted like

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white dudes. I remember there was one one black dude

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that wore a tie every day to high school.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He probably went on to be successful, but he didn't

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act like a black dude, like a super He was

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like a actor like you know, Brian Gumbel type of

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black dude. And then the more thug black dudes, they

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just kind of hung out, you know, stuck to themselves.

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And then there would just be kind of like the

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normal black dudes on the basketball team that I interacted with,

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But I was not in I wasn't a jock, That's

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the thing. Like, I wasn't because jocks would also kind

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of hang out with like the popular black dudes that

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were good at sports.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And in the nineties there wasn't a whole lot of thud.

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There was some thuggery, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: As many thugs as you might think.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really a jock, uh, because I quit the

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I actually quit the back I would have been a

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jock far I kept playing. I quit the basketball team

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because I wanted I was going to do stand up,

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so I wrote a standard routine and I became a

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thief dude. And yes I'm heterosexual. That story was juicy.

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It is a funny story. It's just like the thought

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of the town, like if we put up American flags

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everywhere everywhere, this will solve the racial problems. Anyway, I

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was a theater kid. Yeah. In fact, speaking of let

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me show you this. Y'all want a little bit of

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lore or is just getting stupid? Everybody leaving is too

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much dumb?

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Speaker 8: Lord?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, check this out, and I'm gonna have a hard

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time convincing you that I'm a heterosexual after I show

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you this. But I had no say in this, even

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though I spent all four years of high school involved

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in I'm talking about intensely involved in theater, speech tournaments,

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drama tournaments all the time. This is my high school

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senior play. My mom found this and she sent it

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to me. And by the way, it's weird because it

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looks absolutely like mint Condition from nineteen ninety seven. Nothing

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has changed, Like here is my senior play, West Side Story,

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And then you can see my name right here. I

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don't know why I autographed my own playbill or bulletin

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or whatever this is. I don't remember. And then I

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see like some other people that I remember from the

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place signed it. But I also think that maybe I

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was making a joke about forging people's names, because I

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don't understand why they would have signed my playbill in

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a pencil, and it looks like somebody tried to sign

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it twice. Anyway, it just doesn't make any I don't

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remember what was going on. But yeah, here's my West

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Side story. And the funny thing about this which will

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get me canceled, is that I was Bernardo. So you're

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familiar with webside story, which I don't care for. I

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think it's kind of stupid. It's just Romeo and Juliet

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uh with wasps and Puerto Ricans or Cubans. Are they

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Cuban or Puerto Rican? I don't remember what the story is.

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But when y'all red jet, y'all rad jet all the

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way from your first cigar rat to y'all last die

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in day, so I got to be by the way

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in brown face. People don't know this. I was in

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brown face because in the nineties nobody even thought anything

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about it. Like if I was going to play the

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villain Bernardo, well, I had to be brown because Cubans

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or Puerto Ricans or whatever, right, So I had brown face.

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And anyway, that's my story. It's that's so pretty much

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all I remember. I'm just so was surprised that this

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has has nowhere and tear whatsoever. It's just it's like perfectly,

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it looks like you're about to go see the play.

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By the way, Westside sorts stuck. Sucks to you, by

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the way, it's annoying. Now somebody's got a super chat

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here about deconstruction. Deconstructing Christianity No One five dollars. J

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Should I be worried about secular Bible scholars like Dan

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McClellan and his deconstructing religion. We did two podcasts addressing this,

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shout out to AC who sponsored these, one with Cootel

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and one with me here on my channel, his channel

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and my channel, deconstructing the Bible, and we called it

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Deconstructing Deconstruction. So there's two podcasts we did addressing that

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soy weirdo. Dan McClellan, who is a pro skittles literal

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soy man like everything Marvel Mormon shocker now right wing

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nuck says thank you for boding me all the dispensationalism

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versus earlier, No problem. Top Jack of ma Attic two

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dollars Can we get an Emperor Palpatine. Alex Jones voice,

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everything is proceeding precisely as planned. That's pretty good. Glit

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your rhythm. Five dollars, do you up yond Man went

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on a Long Journey? Yes, that's Albert hosting from X Falls.

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If you don't know Great Scott, five dollars, Come on,

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bro bro Corp. I think you meant bro Corp like

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ro Corp, but bro Core. But he put bro Corp

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like a corporation. And he's telling all y'all lazies to

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hit the light button because we got over a thousand

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people and we got four hundred and ninety likes, So

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thank you guys. When y'all right, jet, y'all right, jet

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all the way from your first say right till y'all

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last time day. I don't remember those lyrics, and uh,

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I think we I can't remember does Bernardo sing that

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that part? I can't remember. I know the Wasp guys

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sing it, which, by the way, it's really funny if

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you think about it, because it's super gay to think

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about dance fighting, think about gang's dance fighting. It's just funny.

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I don't know. But then if you watch I was

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watching Jacko's uh not thriller. What's it? What's what's Jacko's song?

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Speaker 2: The Air?

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Speaker 1: The beat It beat that. Yes, I was like, this

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is West Side story. And if you look at by

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the way, we did have that. We did have to dance.

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I don't remember doing no gay dance though, but we

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did have to do this scene. Oh so I guess

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I did have to do this scene because the Wasps

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they do their dance against the Cubans or the Puerto Ricans,

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whatever they are. Right, So you got the Wasps, They're

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coming over here doing that white boy dance, right, And

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then I think we need to teach the gangsters dance fighting,

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and then gangs would stop fighting. If we just had

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a bunch of gay boys leading the gangs and doing

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dance fighting, bro, then we wouldn't have gang problem, no

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more gang wars.

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Speaker 9: Dog.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's me. That's I was Bernardo and then

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the lot gang is all. They're all getting up on

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my face right trying to trying to outdance me. You're

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about to make a mistake, son, You're gonna outdance me.

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Speaker 2: Huh huh.

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Speaker 1: A little troop of twelve gay gay boys trying to

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outdance me. Shit, hell no, but no, but I had

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the exact outfit though I had a purple shirt and

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a tie. I was freaking and brown face. I was

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straight up Bernardo. What's wrong with the internet is internet out?

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Can y'all see me? How the hell did we get

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to talk about West Side Story from we were talking

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about NATO Cognitive Warfare. By the way, I found this video.

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I forgot about this one. Here's a twelve minute video

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on the NATO Cognitive Warfare document. So there's that. Anyway,

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there was a point here's me. Actually West Side Story

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was written by Arthur Lawrence, but the music and the

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lyrics are by son Time and Bernstein, so I don't

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I don't know who Arthur Lawrence is, but it does

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kind of have a I guess it's an anti wasp

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immigrant type of message because Maria falls in love with

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the the white gang or the guy who's adjacent to

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the gang. Right. Anyway, this is all stupid shit. Who

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cares about West Side Story? Talaho? What's up? By the way,

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that's actually been spoofed. If you remember, in Flight of

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the Concords, they had a good skit about this where

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they were gonna have a gang fight, but it was

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gonna be a gang fight like West Side Story, which

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is a dance fight. And also remember the show with

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Mister Mister Show with Bob and Dave. I think they

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did a similar type of spoof. It's just a funny

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idea though, like gangs dance fighting. I'm not talking about

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where they spoof anyway. What's up? Man? We lost you? Vincent?

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What's up? Mark's as for five dollars? Are you reprising

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your role in West Side Story for a performance for

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the Pope at the Vatican? Yes, because I will be

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stripping off that purple layer shirt that you saw, and

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we all know what happens when hot men like myself

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strip off shirts in front of the Pope, things get

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a little, a little spicy. What's up?

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Speaker 2: How come?

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Speaker 1: Remember he keeps dropping off? Tell you what's up? Dude?

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Living laughing? I'm madicey, I'm dye. See all the songs

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are coming back to me now, even though I hate,

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absolutely hate this musical. What's up? I'm mute, dude? What's

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on your mind?

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Speaker 10: I heard that one black guy was talking about the

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racial experience with three whites.

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Speaker 3: Started to listen to the full thing. But I would

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love to talk about like my experience as.

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Speaker 2: A black Christian, how.

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Speaker 11: Blessed black people becoming Christian there is I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Less less of them? Yes, okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: So because I'm an Orthodox Catechulan, I go to a Greek.

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Speaker 3: Church and I was mentioned this to my priests about.

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Speaker 12: A couple of things about the black community and African

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Orthodox Church.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of about that. About

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what now the African Orthodox Church?

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Speaker 1: I have that.

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Speaker 10: I was telling my priests about how it started by

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this like Anglican.

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Speaker 12: Bishop who left Episcopalian or stuff like that because of racism,

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but he's wanted to join Orthodoxy because of there was

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no racism, right, but he made us all denomination called

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an Orthodox. So like I told my priest, like why

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he didn't become Orthodoxy make a movement of black people

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converning Orthodoxy is beyond me, but I.

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Speaker 2: Have them the idea. M hm.

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Speaker 1: So do you do you have any other black days? There?

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Are you the only black dude at the Greek church?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a couple of black guys.

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Speaker 2: Actually, we talked about.

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Speaker 4: Our experience with Christianity.

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Speaker 10: But I literally told my priests growing up, always here

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you go to a white.

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Speaker 2: Church or a black church.

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Speaker 3: He was bath but it was like what.

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Speaker 1: We used to know. We used to have one of

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these dudes from Africa who goes to an African Orthodox church.

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He used to call in all the time. I think

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he's one of these guys.

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Speaker 2: It was like I was telling my priests, is like,

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you know, I hear.

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Speaker 13: A lot of black atheists arguments about TikTok and suck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Well, I was like, you know, and one of the

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stuff they objections to this stuff is the objections to

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the Baptist.

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Speaker 3: And Pentecostal churches.

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Speaker 8: I was like, even though you guys arguments.

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00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: Suck, I could kind of.

473
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: Get where you're coming from.

474
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 12: Because a lot of them churches are atheist factory.

475
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: Right right right? Yeah exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean I'm

476
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480
glad you found Orthodoxy. That's good to hear. I noticed

477
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:39,599
when we were at the Ludwell conference there was like

478
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,000
at least eight or ten black dudes there, which it

479
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,799
surprised me. I didn't expect to see a bunch of

480
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,599
black dudes there. But I appreciate your comments today and

481
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,160
what's up, Hbrises, You want to say something about that?

482
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: No, I left one thing out because I realized, you know,

483
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,359
I answered that I didn't. I couldn't. I can't really

484
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,279
speak to you know what's happened. Maybe you know, blacks

485
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:06,319
having us underlying you know, hatred white in years past,

486
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,039
but as far as my life time, they always have.

487
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:12,799
I'm talking from a very young age, like very very

488
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,720
young age. The second grade. I had a kid named

489
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:20,279
heart h r T spelled spelled like that. He got suspended.

490
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,640
I'm like, he stood up in class, he got like

491
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480
there was some some some small confrontation between him and

492
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,519
him and the teacher, our teach him is part and

493
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,559
he literally shouted to the top of as lung as

494
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,519
I hate white people. I'm not making this up. I

495
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:39,000
swear to God.

496
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

497
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 2: So like we were seven, obviously we were second grade.

498
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:47,640
We were seven, yeah, seven years old at that point.

499
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,640
So yeah, it started and started home, and they keep

500
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,200
it with him, you know, as they get older. And

501
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,319
I had the idea one work thing. Yeah, And obviously

502
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:03,079
I'm everybody against everybody on Twitter at least can clearly

503
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,839
tell I'm heterosexual. My son is literally laying on my

504
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,799
chest in my profile picture. But I took dance in

505
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,440
eighty three and I wound up like failing the very

506
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,079
last I saignment because there was there was a part

507
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,160
of a dance where you had to do a hip hop.

508
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,559
I wasn't doing that, ship man. It's basically like shaking

509
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:22,559
your ass, So I'm not I'm not doing that.

510
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 14: Yeah.

511
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,599
Speaker 2: I only brought that up because you know, you were

512
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:27,519
doing the whole you were talking about the whole love.

513
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,359
Speaker 1: You know you're the senior play west Side.

514
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it was fun all right, man?

515
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,039
Speaker 15: That was it?

516
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny. I mean so basically h Broseley saying

517
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,640
he was not Tupac because if you watch those clips

518
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,759
of Tupac, Tupac seems a little a little light in

519
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:54,599
his loafers. Anyway, Oh, I forgot to play the rest

520
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880
of this clip here. I got totally distracted. Did you

521
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:08,680
did you want to say something to fother dickon Arrow

522
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,319
became a member or has been a member, He says,

523
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,279
will you bring me up? I am an icon of

524
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,440
the father, Yes, father Diagon. Do you want to say something?

525
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, at least you didn't grow up like doing what

526
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,000
was the mc hammer dance? Do you know what I'm

527
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,559
talking about?

528
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:31,599
Speaker 1: The like where he like.

529
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 16: Like like all these dances like in the late eighties.

530
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Like the Running Man Roger Rabbit.

531
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: No, I remember, No, we did the Bart Simpson and

532
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,480
the Roger Rabbit. I grew up with that because I

533
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,039
was in California. I grew up at that time in California.

534
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 8: Actually I said, at least like that was better that

535
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:46,759
that was actually a better time.

536
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, I don't even remember. How do you

537
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,799
do this? Let's let's say, here's the black dude is

538
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:56,799
going to show us how to do it.

539
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,359
Speaker 2: How do you do.

540
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,559
Speaker 1: You know to do the bark Simpson. So when I

541
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,240
was in like fifth grade in California, this is what

542
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:07,160
everybody's trying.

543
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: To do to the bar.

544
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,319
Speaker 17: An that time, Simpsons were a brand new bar Simpson

545
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,200
was the man.

546
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: He was the home boy.

547
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,279
Speaker 1: Would do that sort of like he would like shuffle

548
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,119
and it looks like he's start out.

549
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 17: We're going to go side the legs first. Let's start

550
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:35,160
with the legs right center together. So we're going to

551
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
try and.

552
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: You're not an authority over black people when it comes

553
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,440
to dances. So this this, this black man is going

554
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:50,200
to do the Roger Rabbit and show us up. I

555
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,119
didn't even know that's what it was. I think I'm

556
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:57,160
thinking of the Running Man. No, what's the other one?

557
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,039
I just went blank.

558
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,519
Speaker 2: Did you say Roger Rabbit or the two?

559
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: There's another one that I can't remember of or I

560
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,039
can't think of. Uh do you not do the Cupid shuffle?

561
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680
We went to? So this is a funny story. When

562
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680
I when I was about ten years ago and uh

563
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,119
my stepbrother was getting married and we were at it

564
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,119
was a pretty big wedding and everybody I know, I

565
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:31,279
mean not the like senior citizens, boomers, but like everyone

566
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:37,519
gen X and under millennial. When the Cupid shuffle came on, everyone,

567
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:41,079
all white people got up and did this dance, and

568
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,000
it blew my mind. I was like, how do all

569
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,599
of these white people in Tennessee know how to do

570
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:47,880
this Cupid scheff?

571
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: I got another one for you, criss cross can make

572
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:51,680
you jump jump?

573
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay. Anyway, so I guess the white people

574
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,960
have been watching the instructional videos from this black guy

575
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,279
on how to do the keep it shuffles. All of

576
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:08,119
my family knew how to do this, and I was like,

577
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,960
what is going on? How did anybody learn this? Anyway?

578
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,800
Kick kick to the left, to the left to the

579
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,679
right to the right anyway, it's a popular wedding dance.

580
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:29,119
Speaker 2: What's up, icon, Hey Jay, how's going. I'm good.

581
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,519
Speaker 3: I'm good, So I believe it or not.

582
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 15: I was gonna call in and talk about Trump because

583
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,760
he did something extremely illegal. But since you had like

584
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480
a couple of black guys on, I just want.

585
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: To let you know.

586
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 15: I'm also a black guy, and our church has a

587
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,400
couple of black people who know exactly who you are,

588
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,800
and they joined Orthodoxy because of you.

589
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 4: WHOA.

590
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,519
Speaker 15: I just want to Yeah, I wanted to let you know, like, yes, you.

591
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,639
Speaker 3: Gotta even word pass from me.

592
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: So that's one two.

593
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,599
Speaker 15: I'm gonna let you know, like you're the biggest reason

594
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,679
for like why most of the black people in our

595
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,519
church converted. So like don't let nobody who's weird like

596
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,559
let you know, Like, oh, like it doesn't work combating stupid.

597
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,119
Speaker 2: No, like you actually converted a lot of our church.

598
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,679
Speaker 4: Since like twenty twenty.

599
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: One, Like our church has like exploded.

600
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Like quadruple.

601
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,519
Speaker 1: Somebody said we're collecting homies.

602
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we would be a game.

603
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's funny. I appreciate that.

604
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,679
Speaker 2: Er wait wait, wait, I have one one more things.

605
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,199
I want to. This is the important one that.

606
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:37,599
Speaker 1: I want to.

607
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,079
Speaker 4: So it was about Trump.

608
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 15: I don't know if you know too much about tech,

609
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:47,960
but apparently in video is like a monopolistic corporate.

610
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: It's the biggest AI.

611
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:57,599
Speaker 15: Yes, so apparently they tried to buy Intail. They pumped

612
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,119
five billion dollars into Intail.

613
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I heard about that, so if you look on.

614
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 15: I don't remember the page, but Trump has a speech

615
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,639
about breaking in video up and then apparently he found

616
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:14,159
out in video was powerful and had a lot of money,

617
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,400
so he decided not to do it. So he actually

618
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000
pumped fifty billion dollars into in video right now, So

619
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:25,480
they invested in a monopolistic corporation. So I don't know

620
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:27,679
if you know too much about that, but like what

621
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,360
he's doing right now, and I think he did that

622
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,119
because all the other bs is going on, so he

623
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,800
just did that in secret and nobody's saying anything about it.

624
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you know.

625
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's new to me, but I'm not surprised.

626
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,159
But also I think one of the other things that

627
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,639
Trump did that I didn't really care for was they

628
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,800
got really heavily into all coins and then because originally

629
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,199
it was big coin, Strategic reserve and all that, which

630
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
is good, and then suddenly it's like, oh, we're also

631
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:01,519
going to have World Liberty coin, and we're going to

632
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,320
have this other coin and that coin and all this

633
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,400
other stuff, which what happens is a Milania coin and

634
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,840
these end up being like rug pulls, right, So that

635
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:20,800
was that was a sus stuff there, So I'm not surprised, Matt.

636
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,119
Let's see, we're not doing tag stuff, So if you

637
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,320
want to ask me tag questions, I'm just I'm not

638
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,559
in the move for that agent. What's up? But you

639
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,880
can all learn to do the Cupid shuffle, what's up?

640
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up?

641
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 18: Jay?

642
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,639
Speaker 13: I was listening to your live stream the other day

643
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,519
and I think you and father Anna and I were

644
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,559
write about the modern dating.

645
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,159
Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight, so man can't just point at woman.

646
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 13: And say it's all her fault because that's what Adam did, right,

647
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,159
So we obviously learned from Saint Adam's lesson and we.

648
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: Don't repeat that.

649
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 13: But so kind of a different perspective I want to

650
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,039
offer is like life moves so fast.

651
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to.

652
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,199
Speaker 13: School, I work, I'm writing a novel. So it seems

653
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,360
like there's just not time to.

654
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: Interact with women.

655
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 13: So I don't know that. I just kind of wanted

656
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,719
to offer that perspective. It's not so much finger pointing

657
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,679
at women and saying they're the problem. I guess it's

658
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,840
just growing up and not having much time to interact

659
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,079
with them.

660
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Now, I thought I thought about this today. Actually, funny

661
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,840
you said that because I was thinking, well, because I

662
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,559
was listening to this guy who makes videos on the

663
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,760
attitudes and morals of different class structures, so you know,

664
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,000
working class, lower class, upper middle class, wealthy class. This

665
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:47,440
guy makes interesting videos on class attitudes, and he was

666
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,360
talking about how things that were more normative for lower

667
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,920
classes become normal as the economy declines for all the classes,

668
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:03,039
even the upper class. Oddly enough, because well, I guess

669
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:05,599
there's different reasons for it. But it's called prole drift

670
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:09,039
p ro l e proll from Proletariat or you know

671
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,320
nineteen eighty four when Orwell talks about the proles, that's

672
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,760
the working class. And so I meant to actually mention

673
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,079
this guy's video, but one of the things he talked

674
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,440
about is the attitudes of dating and courting and all

675
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,199
that kind of stuff in the different social strata and

676
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,519
the different classes. So he's a finance bro, so it's

677
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:36,079
not Marxist class warfare. He's just like a finance dude

678
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:44,039
that analyzes class attitudes. And I was thinking about that because, Yeah,

679
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,400
I think if you if you're a young guy and

680
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,199
you don't have money, then you might not want to

681
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:54,559
You're not You're probably not going to focus on chicks

682
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:57,480
because you don't have the ability to really set that

683
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:02,239
up right, So you might want to focus on building

684
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,239
a business, getting financially situated, all that kind of stuff.

685
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 8: For sure, Hey, can I add something so, you know,

686
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,079
talk to some of the young guys to They said,

687
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:15,920
of Z.

688
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:18,679
Speaker 2: Generation guys, they feel.

689
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 16: A tremendous pressure to get married right away, and we

690
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,360
need to as clergy, we have to address that. Like

691
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:31,480
you said, I guess we could kind of maybe I

692
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,880
don't know, we call her in maybe can kind of

693
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,320
talk about that, like do you feel that, what are

694
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,599
the kind of reasons why, because really you need to

695
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,000
kind of, like as Jay was saying, you know, the

696
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,360
young guys need to kind of work on becoming men

697
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,320
and becoming established so they have something to offer the women.

698
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,880
But all the young guys I've talked to you are

699
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,159
like paralyzed that, like they have to find a wife

700
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,679
right away.

701
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: No, everything has been delayed, right, So what younger generations

702
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,480
would have done thirty four years ago at age twenty five,

703
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,039
people are now doing at age thirty five and forty.

704
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:09,280
So that's just a necessity. And one thing that this

705
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,760
finance bro says that I'd not really thought about was,

706
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,599
although we can't make everything socioeconomic factors, socioeconomic factors do

707
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,320
actually play a pretty big role in a lot of this.

708
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,519
For example, one reason why people don't get married younger

709
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,519
is that they don't have the income and the stability

710
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,159
that boomers had when they were you working a lifetime job.

711
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,039
They were going to live in one city. That was

712
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,519
still normal back at the time of the boomer era

713
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:44,440
when they were getting married, buying a house and so forth.

714
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:49,400
That's a lot harder nowadays because what's been normalized is

715
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:54,360
gig economy. You're going to move probably ten times in

716
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,519
your life. Right, it's a lot different. So what that

717
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,840
means is that unfortunate people and myself included, Right, I'm

718
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,039
pretty much on the edge of millennial and Gen X,

719
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,639
so I can kind of shift between both like a

720
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:12,960
reptilian shape shifter. Gross exactly, I can be what I

721
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,400
need to be.

722
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: I should have qualified that. By the way, not all

723
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,079
Zoomers think that way.

724
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,599
Speaker 8: It's Orthodox zoomers because you look at other Zoomers and

725
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,639
I don't want anything to do with marriage, right. But

726
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,559
I'm just trying to figure this out because you know,

727
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,199
is gen x or I feel the pressure of getting

728
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,320
married like and so is it just something right?

729
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: But you weren't Orthodox when you were that age.

730
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 2: I know That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to think

731
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:46,840
through Mike. Is that just because I was an Orthodox?

732
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,679
Speaker 8: What is it about young guys becoming Orthodox or like,

733
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,559
I've got to get married like as fast as possible.

734
00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Well, I guess because they think, you know, either going

735
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,679
to be in monastic life or married life. So because

736
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:06,280
I wake up every day with a boner, I got

737
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,800
to get married, right. So but I would say the

738
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,840
end of the world, yeah, I would say probably a

739
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,039
lot of people are going to have to. It's probably

740
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,880
gonna take a little while to get situated because the

741
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,679
world is so different. This guy has an interesting point here,

742
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,000
So here let's listen to what he says here. Prole

743
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:34,880
drift is the idea that what is usually or what

744
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:43,599
has been norms for the poor class, the working poor, uh,

745
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:47,760
the precarious precarious class, which is interesting, that's that's also

746
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:54,039
a class, and the blue collar people. Their norms become

747
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,760
gradually the norms of the higher strata over time as

748
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,599
the economy gets bad, which is fascinating.

749
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 19: Only the process which behaviors, norms, and aesthetics that originate

750
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,199
from the proletariat, so like the working class or the

751
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:15,079
precariates most likely spread upward into the middle or even

752
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,360
the upper classes. In modern times, since we developed welfare state,

753
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,679
a lot of negative social trends, often from the dependent classes,

754
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,199
trickle up into the precario and working classes and work

755
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,440
their way up there. Instead of trickle down aspiration, where

756
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,760
people try to aspire to achieve the goals and status

757
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880
symbols of those above them, or try to live like

758
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,159
the ways the people of the upper classes. People tend

759
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,559
to cope with the chance the odds they'll never make

760
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,760
it up there and they've lost the status and the

761
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,119
class of their upbringing, so they adopt and reband the

762
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:56,519
lower class behavior as a lifestyle choice. It starts to

763
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:01,880
downward social mobility, which leads to esthetic or ideological reframing.

764
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,199
The normalization that behavior leads to further downward mobility and

765
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,000
often can be a doom spiral.

766
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: So another thing that is relevant here is that he

767
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,719
points out that a lot of the things that are

768
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,719
actually socially engineered behaviors like tiny living, austerity, and minimalism,

769
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,840
those are actually signs not of lifestyle choices, but poverty

770
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:30,559
and economic decline. Speaking of the US economy in general, Yes,

771
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:34,039
I will link the video. Don't worry, and you don't

772
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,199
need to worry about my I don't understand these people

773
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,519
coming to the chather like they want to know all

774
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:41,400
about my personal life. Just you can just assuage your

775
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
consciences and your desire to expose me by I'm going

776
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,119
to go ahead and tell you I am in a

777
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,719
Panamanian drug lord cult and I work for the KGB

778
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,119
and it's all fake. So there you go.

779
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,119
Speaker 2: No, you should set up like.

780
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 8: A special membership for people who like paid two three

781
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,760
thousand dollars and then you can actually go over all

782
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,400
the private details of your life.

783
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to figure out how to monetize the deep,

784
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:16,320
dark secrets of my life. Let's see, Yeah, but I

785
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,000
want to I'm thinking of a Panamanian drug lord with

786
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:23,960
one of those one of those hats, like a drug

787
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
lord hat, like a nor Jega type of dude, but

788
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,639
not a kernel hat like a hey man.

789
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 8: I lived in Panama, Thank Hulu man, think it easy?

790
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: Panama, Panama? What's uh?

791
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 7: I don't know.

792
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: You're asking me how many kids I have? The real

793
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,840
question is how many illegitimate kids do I have?

794
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:59,079
Speaker 19: It usually originates from economic necessity, not freshly. Why all

795
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:05,920
these people adopted these quote unquote trashies adopting certain lifestyle

796
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,400
example traits. The most blatant example, which we've been talking

797
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,519
about in several videos recently, is marriage. The idea of

798
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:23,480
marriage being optional is more that marriage is inaccessible. The

799
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,719
narrative adopters you don't need to get married to validate

800
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,599
your relationship. The reality is that median income individuals can

801
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,239
no longer afford to marry or support a household in

802
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,119
the traditional way in a high cost of living city.

803
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,840
As a result, marriage has become a status good and

804
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,079
achievement for unlocking financial stability, and not a starting point.

805
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,039
Instead of saying I can't afford to get married, yet

806
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,480
you say I don't want marriage to cope with the

807
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,599
fact you may never be able to afford the wedding

808
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,679
you dream of. The other one is this idea of

809
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,480
several alternative lifestyles. The traditional thing is, especially for men

810
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:04,880
and most generations, is that I want to get an

811
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,880
education and work hard so that I can make enough

812
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,360
money to provide for a stay at home wife, has

813
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,760
a few kids and give them a better life.

814
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: Than I had.

815
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 19: And that was able to work for several generations in

816
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,639
American history, mostly in the mid twentieth century. When I

817
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,280
can I have force has changed and it became more

818
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,760
difficult and impossible to achieve that a lot of people

819
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,239
instead of saying, oh, I can't really afford to have

820
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,280
the traditional family lifestyle, I'll try to invalidate and say, oh,

821
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320
I never wanted that. I want a more alternative lifestyle

822
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,920
with more free expression.

823
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah. And he's pointing out that like it's

824
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,440
sold as if it's freedom and bohemian lifestyle and all

825
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,679
this stuff, when it's actually cultural engineering and it's from

826
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:58,480
the top down. Anyway, he doesn't get conspiratorial with it,

827
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:01,719
but that's kind of basically what he's saying. He gives

828
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:08,280
a bunch of examples of things that for example, car culture,

829
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,480
monster trucks, you know, people getting their you know, trucks

830
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:18,599
jacked up, the obsession with pit bulls, people being really

831
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:25,679
interested in bizarre things like bowling, leagues, acts, throwing like

832
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,480
a lot of these, everybody dressing down casual all the time.

833
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,559
He lists a bunch of things that are really interesting.

834
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,400
I'm not gonna play this whole video, but if you

835
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,000
want to check it out, it was It was an

836
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:38,639
interesting cultural analysis. And he was also talking about how,

837
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:43,559
you know, marriage usually took a degree of money and stability,

838
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:47,639
and so as the economy declines, that just automatically makes

839
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,719
marriage more and more difficult. So yeah, here's the here's

840
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,639
the Panama jackat I don't know why I can't think

841
00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,000
of Panama Jack, which also I think functions as an

842
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,159
nice drug lord chic sort of hat. So this is

843
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:07,119
this is my real attire. Also, do you know about

844
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:12,039
the Disney adults. Isn't this interesting because we did podcasts

845
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,519
some I don't know, ten years ago where we talked

846
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,280
about this would be the future where people would begin

847
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,320
to adopt theme park lifestyles they would actually want to

848
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,559
live in theme parks, and I'm still predicting that as

849
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:32,400
things get crazier, you're actually gonna have communities that eventually

850
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,199
evolved and developed from this pop culture gibberish. So you're

851
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:40,320
gonna have people going and living in Star Wars world.

852
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,159
You're gonna have people living in Harry Potter World. I'm

853
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:46,440
not kidding. We're already getting what the Pope of the

854
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,039
future predicted almost ten years ago, target cities and Walmart cities.

855
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,639
They're building high rises now on top of targets and Walmart's,

856
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:59,800
Sam's Clubs, etc. So just wait, we're not far from

857
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,440
this is the phase before it. Disney Adults.

858
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 14: This is just a small selection of YouTube shorts with

859
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:09,199
the tag Disney bound Today.

860
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: We're Disney bounding as a character from Aladdin.

861
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:14,559
Speaker 14: If you don't know, Disney says costume and costume masks

862
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:18,039
may not be worn in the park. Disney Bounding is

863
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:21,920
the enthusiastic way to get around it if you are

864
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,280
bound for Disney.

865
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why the Internet keeps cutting out acting weird.

866
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,159
Today the stream seems to be good, so at least

867
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:40,920
it's not cutting out. Okay, So now there's Disney Adults

868
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,239
which is, by the way, we're in Florida, so I'm

869
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,960
aware of this. In fact, we were just talking about

870
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,880
people who live this Disney line not too long ago,

871
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,599
and I noticed it the last time that I went

872
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,159
to Disney, which was several years ago. But I noticed,

873
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,079
why are all these weird adults seemingly obsessed with this?

874
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,079
Were you gonna say.

875
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,599
Speaker 8: Something, hey, so you know I came from it back

876
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,280
in Anaheim, the original Disney, not the fake version for it.

877
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: What's up with the club in your place?

878
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: You're John? We can't hear you. It's super bad, static, John. No,

879
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,199
Club Club thirty three is a quasi Masonic secret society.

880
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:38,840
Even though Walt himself wasn't a Freemason. He was I

881
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,599
think in demo let when he was a kid, and

882
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,199
he sort of utilized this idea of Disney having its

883
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,920
own sort of secret society called Club thirty three. I

884
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,599
wouldn't be surprised if there's not something nefarious about it.

885
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:57,280
But what were we gonna say?

886
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 8: Well, I was just wondering if they had one over

887
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,079
in Florida, because they had one in Disneyland, a Club three.

888
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they have one at both of them.

889
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:09,880
I know there's I know about the one you're talking about,

890
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:12,440
and it's it's like a just a single door, like

891
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,280
it's a secret.

892
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pay much of money to get in.

893
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,679
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it could be nefarious or could

894
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,719
just be like another monetary scam, you know, scamming people

895
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,159
that pay exorbitant amounts of money to be in Club

896
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:27,960
thirty three or whatever.

897
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,559
Speaker 14: But Walt weirdo Disney freak. I was shocked to learn

898
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,599
that the term Disney adult is so new. You can

899
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,280
find the phrase as early as nineteen ninety two and

900
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,920
in a guide book a year later, but both are

901
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,760
largely in the context of a full Disney family. The

902
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,360
modern sensibility is the Urban Dictionary definition a millennial adult

903
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,960
with or without kids that can't stop talking about Disney.

904
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: What a weird dystopian situation. This is crazy, John, Did

905
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,719
you want to try again? All right? So the internet's

906
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,000
just not one to work, can you hear me?

907
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:12,159
Speaker 2: No? Yeah?

908
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,599
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

909
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, Club thirty three. So there was a restaurant.

910
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,159
I mean, I'm sure it's still there, but there was

911
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,599
a restaurant right next to Pirates of the Caribbean.

912
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:29,079
Speaker 2: The secret room was where Club thirty three was.

913
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 20: And as far as I know, like you guys were saying,

914
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,159
it's like kind of a exclusive, like you know, you

915
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:42,239
just pay a higher price to get in there.

916
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 4: And but I had a friend who got in.

917
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 20: A fight at Disneyland one time, and there is a

918
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Disneyland underground yeah.

919
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: And because yeah tunnels.

920
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 20: Yeah, he got in a fight at Disneyland and they

921
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,119
they immediately knew where the fight was happening and all

922
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:08,159
swarmed on him and took him. And this is from

923
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,239
his description. He got taken into an underground tunnel and

924
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,239
then it led to another side of the park and

925
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,400
the cops were waiting there to pick him up and

926
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,199
take him to jail.

927
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh, it gets crazier than that. They have actually underground.

928
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,519
They have a morgue and jail cells.

929
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, like we called growing up at Disney and we

930
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,920
called it the DA.

931
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: This is an analogien's agency because they had little things

932
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:33,800
like there.

933
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,119
Speaker 16: Yeah, they have cameras and and then they're like.

934
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: They got in a little bit of trouble.

935
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 8: I can't remember. It was probably about twenty five thirty

936
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:47,079
years ago. Somebody died and they just handled it. Yeah,

937
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:49,440
I remember the person of the body and the morgue

938
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,760
and the police were like, what do you mean you

939
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,880
handled They're like, well.

940
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,039
Speaker 2: We're just for the d for the DIA. We just

941
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:56,679
dealt with it.

942
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: No, you're not actually far from the truth in the

943
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,280
sense that I mean Disneyland actually has its own police,

944
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,960
they have their own constitution, and they're actually legally kind

945
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,360
of a state within a state, believe it or not exactly.

946
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:14,199
And that's because build Onovan and the CAA actually helped

947
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,360
Walt procure the land in Florida, So that's why they

948
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,719
have this really special status. Going back a.

949
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:26,559
Speaker 20: Long time, the speaking to this, the stuff earlier pertaining

950
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:32,400
to I can't remember what the guy called in about,

951
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,599
but like cybernetics and Gregory beats, and they were even

952
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:43,559
doing tests on like the way newspaper articles traveled between people.

953
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,639
And what they would do is they would plant certain

954
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:51,800
newspaper articles in certain neighborhoods and they would see how

955
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920
and they would see how fast it traveled by word

956
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:02,519
of mouth. And that's like the early development of cybernetics

957
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:07,239
and information travel is they were even doing it even

958
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,039
before any sort of digital scape or internet or anything.

959
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,760
They were already seeing how fast and stories and newspapers

960
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,519
that they purposely planted would travel by word of mouth

961
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,840
and if it would make it back to like their

962
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,440
agent that they had planted in a in a.

963
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 2: Neighborhood or something, that's crazy.

964
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's that's like in the forties when they were

965
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:32,800
doing that.

966
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

967
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: And yeah, so like all the you.

968
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:43,559
Speaker 20: Know, what's the uh, what's the book I'm thinking of

969
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,719
Ecology of the Mind by Greg Ray Bates and he

970
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:54,800
kind of talks about that in there, and they were, yeah,

971
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,920
like all the stuff you're talking about, you know, Rand

972
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,679
Corporation in uh what the Mind has no firewall?

973
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,079
Speaker 2: Yes, and all those.

974
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,199
Speaker 20: Papers, that stuff once it gets into the digital scape.

975
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: And I know this sounds wild. It doesn't sound wild.

976
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 20: To you guys, but they tested all that stuff out

977
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,920
in the real world first, and the speed of information

978
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,360
as it traveled from person to person by way of

979
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,880
newspaper and television and radio, and that's how they were

980
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,679
able to develop information speed in the digital world.

981
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,039
Speaker 7: Yeah.

982
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. This article says Walt did not hire the CIA

983
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,519
to help him build Disney World. Not exactly. However, he

984
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:45,679
hired two CIA members, Paul Hallowell and Bill Donovan, to

985
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,559
strategically acquire the real estate under the names of numerous

986
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:53,840
fake companies. Donova's law firm was set up as Reedy

987
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,440
Creek Ranch Corporation, enabling Disney to buy the entirety of

988
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,639
the property for an average of only a few hundred

989
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,840
dollars acre. So again, from the very inception of Disney,

990
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,239
it was a CIA operation. And that's why I think

991
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,960
you see such a close connection between it and the

992
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,960
Semen's Corporation, which builds Epcot and is the sponsor of Epcot,

993
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,960
and why there's so many weird, you know, mind control

994
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:23,360
in chault type stuff that's been there from the beginning

995
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,480
with Disney. Now, I don't know that that means that

996
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:32,039
Walt himself was like super deep involved and do everything.

997
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:34,199
I mean, a lot of these people I don't. I mean,

998
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:36,159
he might have been a weirdo. He seems a little

999
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,800
bit of an oddball, but I don't know that he

1000
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:42,639
himself was some you know, super mk ultra handler type

1001
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:46,960
of person. I think more so probably what Disney is

1002
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,599
is a way, as Gregory bates And said, to capture

1003
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:58,440
the imagination, rather than being a promoter of creativity and

1004
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,440
the imagination. Gregory eights And said if you really wanted to.

1005
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:03,960
And he was one of the mk Ultra operatives. He said,

1006
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,719
if you really wanted to control people, you have to

1007
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,079
capture their imagination. So I think that that's the role

1008
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:13,719
that Disney plays, which is cultural engineering and in that sense,

1009
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,199
mind control on a mass scale more so than like

1010
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,599
if you remember that movie Escape from Tomorrow Land or

1011
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:24,960
so Escape Escape from Tomorrow, Escape From It's a good

1012
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,000
independent movie that is pretty creepy and in many ways

1013
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:31,559
kind of predicted the trick that the Disney would take

1014
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:35,880
and did take some of It's pretty dark, so I'm

1015
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,679
gonna I'm gonna warn you if you do intend to

1016
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:47,960
watch it. It's a really well done indie film. Is

1017
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,559
that Make sure I got the title right? Yeah? This

1018
01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:58,079
is Escape from Tomorrow and it's a it's about this

1019
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:05,079
family that goes. It's all black and white, really weird,

1020
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,320
creepy stuff starts happening. There's a lot of references to

1021
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,079
m k LT mind control stuff, kids disappear. A lot

1022
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:15,400
of the stories that you hear, you know, the sort

1023
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:21,519
of nefarious things you hear about Disney, are in the film.

1024
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:25,239
And I won't spoil it for you, but it is

1025
01:01:25,239 --> 01:01:30,840
is pretty wild. Supposedly the movie was acts was made

1026
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,039
in Disney without Disney's approval. I'm not sure I believe that, because,

1027
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:38,360
as John says, yeah, anything that happens in Disney like

1028
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,679
they're they're immediately on it. And I've noticed that too.

1029
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:43,480
I remember, you know, when I was there, there's cameras everywhere.

1030
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:45,800
They know everything happening in the in the in the park.

1031
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,719
So I tend to think that that's probably not true

1032
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,639
that this movie was made with some tacit underground approval.

1033
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,079
But there's one very revealing thing in the movie that

1034
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:00,599
I'm not gonna spoil that has a lot to do

1035
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,400
with the gender propaganda that goes on. That's actually in

1036
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,519
Escape from Tomorrow if you pay attention. So I didn't

1037
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:08,400
want to play a little bit of this.

1038
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 21: I forgot to be back in December of twenty twenty four,

1039
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:15,440
and now Representative Barry Laudermilk, chair of the House Administration's

1040
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,400
Subcommittee on Oversight, has called for more details on whether

1041
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,239
these newly reviewed.

1042
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,239
Speaker 1: All right, never mind, it's not going to work for

1043
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,440
whatever reason, the Internet keeps cutting out. So this was

1044
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,039
an interesting story that popped up today. Soros Sex Dungeon.

1045
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,599
I remember actually, I think years ago this came out. Yeah,

1046
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:39,760
and I remember talking to Patrick Henningson about this former

1047
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,159
New York financier who managed money for Soros has been

1048
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:48,199
arrested on charges spanning bait fraud and human tr f

1049
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:51,599
f I C K I n G supposedly spend a

1050
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,239
million dollars on such activities. Yes, this was the New

1051
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,800
York City Manhattan BDSM sexe. This was in the news

1052
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:09,880
years ago, and I'm not sure why it's just now happening,

1053
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,960
but you'll notice he has a bruise. Remember when all

1054
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:20,840
the famous people suddenly popped up with bruises, including Pope Francis.

1055
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,079
Where they all going to weird sex dungeons? I mean,

1056
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:26,679
I don't know what that was, like, why were they

1057
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,519
Why do they all have black eyes? All of a sudden,

1058
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:35,079
Trump is ordering troops to Portland. So now we're getting

1059
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:40,239
the situation where because the left has basically said burned

1060
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,840
the cities down, this was the Podesta plan. Alex is

1061
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,079
correct about that. If you go and find the actual

1062
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:49,000
New York Times articles and the stuff that they were

1063
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:54,119
writing at that time, and then that justifies the quote

1064
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:58,000
martial law because the cities can't even function without, you know,

1065
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:00,719
troops on the street everywhere, like it's some sort of

1066
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:03,440
third world country, And why wouldn't it be a third

1067
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,639
world country when we brought in the third World into

1068
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:11,719
the country by design. So things are getting crazy. I

1069
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,239
don't know where it's going. Everybody asks me, where's it going.

1070
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,559
I don't know if we have time to watch all this.

1071
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:21,199
I did want to watch this interview because Larry Johnson

1072
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:25,440
seems to be a pretty decent former CIA analyst that

1073
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:29,239
Patrick Henningson has had on. He seems to understand a

1074
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:33,119
lot of these geopolitical conflicts, including Israel, very well, and

1075
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,039
he was on with Rachel Blevins, who just had Jim

1076
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:39,079
jatras on. But I've not watched this yet. But I

1077
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:41,039
don't know if we have time to watch this, and

1078
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:43,199
the internet seems to keep cutting out, so I guess

1079
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:49,719
there's no point in that. Let's see who's next in

1080
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:58,239
Individuated Unity. By the way, if you want to support

1081
01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,199
the stream, you can do so through super chats ebs

1082
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:02,400
for five dollars. I'm at an oca mensa tree and

1083
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,880
the speaker keeps bringing up quote WORTHO bros. Why are

1084
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,719
they obsessed? Why are they mad? At about zealous converts.

1085
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,320
A lot of reasons. The OCA is closely aligned with

1086
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,519
the aspects of the State Department and the deep state.

1087
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:22,719
You could say, doesn't mean everybody's bad. It doesn't mean

1088
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,320
all the church is bad. It just means that there's

1089
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,280
a long standing relationship there that goes back to the

1090
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:35,960
Cold War. A lot of the OCA is Americanists first

1091
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,559
in orthodox Second, a lot of the OCA is a

1092
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:47,360
top down sort of military like structure. So they're told

1093
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:51,639
these people bad. Don't worry about investigating it. See that's

1094
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:54,639
the case, just trust us. So, I mean it's a

1095
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:59,840
complex situation. There's also I'm sure people are envious because

1096
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,599
they feel like they should have the attention and the

1097
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:05,400
people should be listening to them, and why are they

1098
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,599
listening to these people on the internet. So, I mean

1099
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:10,320
there's a lot of different reasons. Why. Also, they don't

1100
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,519
control guys that are listening to me and convert to Orthodoxy.

1101
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,840
They want people structured and brought in and sifted out

1102
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,840
according to whether they you know, take orders, and whether

1103
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,079
they're good, you know, people pleasers. They would rather have

1104
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:30,679
controllable soy men going into the priesthood than people that

1105
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,639
you know, are critical thinkers and know the theology and

1106
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,519
the argumentation who will probably not submit to For example,

1107
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,480
if the OCA went in the direction of skittle stuff,

1108
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:44,039
I'm not saying that they're right now. I'm saying that

1109
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,480
the OSAA moves in the direction and wanting to be

1110
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:49,239
recognized by the EP, which they do. If they go

1111
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,480
in the direction of wanting to have a single American

1112
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:54,800
jurisdiction all that kind of stuff that the epe go

1113
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,559
arch and the CAA in the State Department want for

1114
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:03,119
American Orthodoxy, the people who will oppose that are people

1115
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:05,039
like myself and all the people that listen to what

1116
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:08,559
I talk about. So that's that's why that's really simple

1117
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:11,320
right there. They want to eventually go towards Rome. They

1118
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,920
want to eventually have Ecumenism, and they won't to eventually

1119
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,000
have skittle stuff. Not every OCA, parish or person. I'm

1120
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:23,320
talking about certain bishops and hierarchs and compromise people. That's

1121
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,440
the direction they want to go, and so naturally they

1122
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,280
would have to say that anybody like myself or anyone

1123
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,840
that would oppose that are all bad people. And you

1124
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,960
can list any reason that you want why I'm back.

1125
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:39,480
So G twenty six five dollars. From now on, all

1126
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,239
debates will be handled by ballerina dance battle, and we're

1127
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:47,119
gonna have you versus Lofton. Yes, I will ballerina dance

1128
01:07:47,159 --> 01:07:53,960
fight Michael Lofton positive nitrogen balance five dollars. Let your

1129
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,039
boy Andrew borrow some of these black fans. He's got

1130
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:02,920
one or two. You apparently have a whole gang. Yeah.

1131
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,239
I guess I have more black fans than I realize.

1132
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:12,400
That's interesting. Saint Sizzle twenty dollars. How do you reconcile

1133
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:16,239
Romans ninth through eleven that talks about the quote future

1134
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:23,079
salvation with the Jews, with the second Exodus motif, and

1135
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:28,159
all of the imminent time statements of the New Testament.

1136
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,720
I guess you're are you talking about partial preterism, Like

1137
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:38,560
why wouldn't not Romans ninth through eleven be fulfilled in

1138
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,239
a partial preadist way or a full predis way, like

1139
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,279
somehow before seventy eighty. I mean, do you think that

1140
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:52,159
the world and Judaism as a whole converted before seventy AD.

1141
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:53,760
I just think that's kind of preposterous.

1142
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh, it's crazy. There's a guy I don't know who

1143
01:08:57,039 --> 01:08:57,720
is the person.

1144
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 22: There's somebody that says they're interesting worth the box, either

1145
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,960
convinced by the arguments, but they can't leave full preterism.

1146
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,760
And I'm like, I can't think of a stupider position.

1147
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I can be fished.

1148
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this could be this person. I don't. They

1149
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,840
don't really say what they're talking about. They asked me

1150
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,359
if if my reconciliation is the doctrine of recapitulation. I

1151
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,079
don't think that has anything to do with that. I don't.

1152
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,520
I'm not understanding your argument, Saint Sizzle, I apologize.

1153
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's somebody different. Yeah, so it's come up.

1154
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:31,520
Speaker 8: You know, it might be an interesting stream just for

1155
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:38,039
you and I to do is a refutation of full prederism.

1156
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do. I do have several clips

1157
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,159
that have been clipped where we address the I mean,

1158
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:45,439
for one, like it ends up denying the bodily resurrection.

1159
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,840
Evil is eternal, So it ends up being a Manichean

1160
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,840
dualist position, which is just kind of preposterous. But h

1161
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,119
Rossey ten dollars. He says pitbulls are just black people

1162
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,840
in dog form. That's a black guy saying that, not me,

1163
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:01,479
So you can't can't me when he says that if

1164
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,359
you're going to cancel me, it's you have to cancel

1165
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,640
me for being Bernardo in West Side Story Eb. Five dollars. No,

1166
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,640
we did that journey of abound twenty dollars. How would

1167
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,239
you respond to some person saying that since Covenant blessings

1168
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:17,279
and curses in the Old Testament are not contingent upon

1169
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:22,039
the real presence, then why would First Corinthians eleven thirty

1170
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:29,000
be contain blessings and cursings? And so the symbolic view

1171
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:35,319
of the Eucharist is not gnostic. That's a really weird

1172
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:41,479
line of argumentation because the argument assumes that because it's

1173
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,359
like a parts whole fallacy. So because some things in

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the Old Testament are the basis for blessings and cursings,

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there can't be anything different in the New Testament that

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contains blessings and cursings. And that just seems to be

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:05,560
a completely bizarre line of argument. I mean, Jesus applies

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,359
the blessings and cursings to the Church and Revelations two

1179
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:12,960
and three. The Church doesn't exist in that form in

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,640
the Old Testament. So would I then say that you

1181
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,039
can't apply the blessings and cursings to the church. I mean,

1182
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it just doesn't follow from the fact that because there's

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blessings and cursings in the Old Testament without the real Presence,

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01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:31,279
that there couldn't be blessings and cursings attached to the

1185
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:33,840
real presence. It's just silly. I mean, the whole point

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:40,000
of the argument is that you're you're going to potentially

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:46,279
kill yourself, unlive yourself spiritually and perhaps even physically because

1188
01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:51,520
you do not regard the reality of the sacrament. It's

1189
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,520
just a non secutor. What are you going to say?

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 8: Hey, just on topic, there's a guy common sense two

1191
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,479
three two three is requesting. He said he made a

1192
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,720
bad joke and he got blocked by you, but he

1193
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,439
really likes you.

1194
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: And wants to Okay, I'll try to find I'll try

1195
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to find that profile.

1196
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Speaker 2: He's one of your favorite followers, he says.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, sometimes the people that say that are lying.

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But I'll see counterdox five dollars. Can you ask your

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niece Natalia Dier to give me an autograph?

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Speaker 7: Thanks?

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01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,399
Speaker 1: It's funny, I noticed I don't have any knowledge that

1202
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I'm related to her. By the way, there's like tens

1203
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,760
of thousands of people with name Dier. It's a pretty

1204
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,319
common English name. But I think she is from Tennessee,

1205
01:12:33,399 --> 01:12:42,560
which is odd. She's the girl from Stranger Things, not eleven,

1206
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,960
but the sister. Yeah, she's from Nashville. Actually, Natalia Danielle

1207
01:12:48,119 --> 01:12:53,119
Dyer is from Nashville, and she kind of has that

1208
01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:01,760
kind of smushed pixie pixie girl type of face. Anyway,

1209
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,079
individuated Unity, did you want to say something.

1210
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,520
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me on.

1211
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:14,199
Speaker 23: I had a comment earlier about something related to the

1212
01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:15,359
Disney comment and all that.

1213
01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: It kind of took me a minute to get on.

1214
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 23: But the have you heard of Fermi Lab and the

1215
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,439
symbolism around the Fermi Lab. It's like a government laboratory

1216
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,119
where they do uh I honestly don't know what they do.

1217
01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:30,920
It's like particle accelerating, but the symbolism behind it is wild,

1218
01:13:31,039 --> 01:13:33,119
and I just I was kind of curious about it.

1219
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about it. I mean I know about

1220
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,840
like the the cern and all the symbolism of.

1221
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,279
Speaker 23: The You would be really interested in this f e

1222
01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:42,760
r M EI.

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: Or if I know, I don't know.

1224
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 23: About this lab, but if you look up the symbolism

1225
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,319
like forer me lab symbolism, the cult symbolism within their

1226
01:13:52,399 --> 01:13:54,560
branding and everything is pretty wild.

1227
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:57,279
Speaker 2: I just let you be interested in that.

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Speaker 1: Where where I read about the occult.

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Speaker 23: I would just say, look look up a like google

1230
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:07,680
Fermi lab a symbolism and you'll you'll find they're like

1231
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:12,159
they've had several branding things for decades, decade gone, and

1232
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:15,560
it's just wild occult symbolism. But it's the fact that

1233
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:20,079
it's a a government laboratory and that they're they.

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01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 2: Who knows what they do? Honestly, who knows what they do.

1235
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It's kind of wild lab.

1236
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:28,159
Speaker 23: But anyway, the symbolism behind it's wild, like people think

1237
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:30,439
they do time travel or whatever they're doing. I don't know,

1238
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,199
but anyway, just kind of interesting.

1239
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Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that. I'll check it out. I got

1240
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,159
it pulled up here. It looks like they're it looks

1241
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:41,199
like they're pulling from like mcsher type stuff or I

1242
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:47,399
don't know if that's what this is. Let's see.

1243
01:14:49,079 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 7: Symmetry magazine.

1244
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:20,359
Speaker 1: Lucky Dog. What's up. I'm met.

1245
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Speaker 2: A J Canary. Yeah.

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 24: Hey, I'm first of all, I want to say I'm

1247
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:33,880
a huge fan. I am a self confessed ortho bro,

1248
01:15:35,039 --> 01:15:39,039
I'm ashamed Orthobro. I'm in kind of a weird situation

1249
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:45,079
because I was attending an Antiochian parish up here in

1250
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:49,239
uh in, Maine on the coast, and the priest said

1251
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:52,399
that he was one of the people in your discord

1252
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,399
for a while and was like very complimentary to you,

1253
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,359
and complimentary to a lot of people in like the

1254
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online Orthodox space.

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Speaker 4: And.

1256
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Speaker 24: Was very you know, based in red build for lack

1257
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:10,439
of a better praise, But basically the dude was placating

1258
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me and like a bunch of the other people who

1259
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:16,880
were more theologically astute, I guess for just to say,

1260
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and was also placating sort of the more Americanist individualist

1261
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,079
pacifist type people as well.

1262
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Speaker 2: And it turned out that basically the guy was like.

1263
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 24: Poisoning the well with a lot of these more pacifists

1264
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,800
sort of casually not so theologically astute people, to try

1265
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,439
to turn them against the people at our parish who

1266
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were more Orthobra adjacent, to the point where literally like

1267
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,960
we were told that we were trying to start a

1268
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:54,640
coup and that we were like violent people. And basically

1269
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,720
I getting kicked out because I brought all this stuff

1270
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to the parish council into the bishop. So I kind

1271
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,840
of am in a weird spot right now because it's

1272
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the only parish within like two hours from me.

1273
01:17:06,319 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: Kind of curious if you had any advice.

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,359
Speaker 1: Well, it's an odd story. I've never heard of a

1275
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,520
situation like that. I mean, there there have not been

1276
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,079
very many clergy that we're in that discord. I'm not

1277
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really active in that discord like I used to be,

1278
01:17:23,279 --> 01:17:25,119
at least not for the last several years.

1279
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Speaker 24: So I'm happy to say the guy's name because I mean,

1280
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at this point I'm ready to go public.

1281
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Speaker 1: But I mean priests are public figures. So I mean,

1282
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if you.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, his name is father justin Slaughter dotye and the

1284
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parish is Saint Euphemia Orthodox Church in Rockland. May very

1285
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,199
very weird guy. I'm kind of exasperated on it because

1286
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:53,800
even the bishop, Bishop John out of out of Worcestern, Massachusetts,

1287
01:17:54,119 --> 01:17:56,680
is like he tells us like, oh, you know, he'll

1288
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,479
take me six months to look into this because like

1289
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myself and like several other families have come to him

1290
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,479
about this and have raised issues and basically we're all

1291
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,039
told to take a hike because the parish council acknowledges

1292
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:10,800
that there's an issue, but they are like, oh, we

1293
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,520
don't have another priest to fill in, and so like,

1294
01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:15,279
you know, you guys got to leave. Basically, the guy

1295
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,279
made an ultimatum and lied that I said I was

1296
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gonna threaten to hurt him or something, and then literally

1297
01:18:21,399 --> 01:18:23,720
like ran off to Massachusetts and said I'm not coming

1298
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,319
back unless this guy leaves, and uh, you know, like

1299
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,640
I'm honestly I'm in disbelief about it because I've never,

1300
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,319
like in a million years.

1301
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 2: Done that.

1302
01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: I've never heard I mean, I don't know this person,

1303
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,680
never heard of them. So it's weird when when people say, oh,

1304
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,279
I know him, I used to be in the discord

1305
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:43,880
and this and that. That's like I have no idea

1306
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,640
who this person is.

1307
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I figured, I mean the dude

1308
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:48,560
is like at this point, you.

1309
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 24: Know, locally is a reputation for like not you know,

1310
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,279
telling the truth of hundred percent. But yeah, yeah, it's

1311
01:18:55,279 --> 01:18:59,319
just it's been super weird. Basically, like was giving coded

1312
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:04,520
homilies Sunday saying to people that they were like heretics

1313
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,439
within the parish and like schismatics trying to tear things

1314
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,399
apart and all this kind.

1315
01:19:08,279 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: Of stuff is super bizarre. Man.

1316
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 24: I think back to a lot of some of the

1317
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,159
stuff that you said in the past about some of

1318
01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:21,000
these sort of corrupt figures, corrupt bishops, corrupt parrish priests

1319
01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:23,039
and stuff like that, and then I can't help but

1320
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:25,159
think that the guy may be compromising in some way

1321
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:28,560
or maybe working towards some sort of political goal, because

1322
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,399
it's to me, it's not indicative of somebody who is

1323
01:19:32,199 --> 01:19:34,640
working honestly or in good faith.

1324
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, did you get them. Usually what happens

1325
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,039
with these kinds of situations or with these individuals is

1326
01:19:41,159 --> 01:19:44,840
like they're actually just like liberals, Like their their whole

1327
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,640
ethos is like they're you know, they come from a

1328
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,479
Democratic party family, their their families or you know liberals

1329
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,920
or you know, that kind of a thing, and then

1330
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:04,640
they bring that to you know, their priesthood or their

1331
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,600
their religion, which ironically and then they're the ones that

1332
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,079
are always touting stuff like you know, we don't bring

1333
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:12,880
politics into orthodoxy and we don't, but they're actually like

1334
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:18,359
political activists as their activist priests. So I mean, is

1335
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,039
that do you think it was that or do you

1336
01:20:21,119 --> 01:20:24,760
think that like he was just told by higher clergy

1337
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,439
to try to get rid of anybody that was quote

1338
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:28,119
an ortho bro.

1339
01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:32,239
Speaker 3: If it was that, I would be like very I

1340
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:33,880
think it would be pretty easy to identify.

1341
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 24: The weird thing about this guy is like he espouses

1342
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,239
all the all the sort of same politics that like

1343
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:43,479
people like you or me would say, like, you know,

1344
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,439
he believes in like weather modification, he believes in all

1345
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,800
this like like like he he knows a lot about

1346
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,920
theology and he knows a lot about politics.

1347
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: And he even told me.

1348
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,399
Speaker 24: At one point like so he and I used to

1349
01:20:55,399 --> 01:20:57,119
be like buddies when I first came to the parish,

1350
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,880
and uh he he because he's like twenty seven, he's

1351
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,520
a really young guy.

1352
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:02,279
Speaker 2: I'm the young guy.

1353
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 24: Also, he told me that before he wanted to be

1354
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,520
a priest, he wanted to be a politician, and that

1355
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,600
he was like pen Palace was a big new Bershensky

1356
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,039
and he was trying to trying to go to work

1357
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:13,119
for him, And I.

1358
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Speaker 1: Was like, wow, all right, that sounds like a lie

1359
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:21,079
right away. Well, pen pals was the big Nighbersenski first

1360
01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:23,439
of all, a twenty seven year old. I mean Brezenski

1361
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,680
died like seven years ago or so so so he

1362
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,039
was pen pals with Brezenski when he was nineteen or twenty.

1363
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,840
It sounds like this is a person who's a pathological liar.

1364
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,520
Speaker 24: Honestly, I would I would agree with that, but I

1365
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,319
would say, I mean, some parts of his background I

1366
01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:42,000
do find interesting, like his his grandfather on his mom's

1367
01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:44,680
side was like the lawyer to Waylon Jennings.

1368
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 2: And but I ain't like that.

1369
01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:50,520
Speaker 1: First of all, then Berzsenski doesn't have time to be

1370
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,119
pen pals with twenty year olds. That just sounds like complete,

1371
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,680
That's like, that's actually funny.

1372
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he wasn't pen pals exactly. Maybe I'm misromon

1373
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:00,600
ring or something.

1374
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,319
Speaker 24: But he said basically he was working very hard to

1375
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,800
try to be like an apprentice to it Vigi Bersinski

1376
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,880
somehow when he was much younger.

1377
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that would mean that he comes from a

1378
01:22:10,279 --> 01:22:13,239
established if that's true, which I doubt it. That sounds

1379
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:15,359
like an established Democratic Party family.

1380
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,319
Speaker 24: Well, and again I verified like his grandfather actually was

1381
01:22:19,399 --> 01:22:24,960
Waylon Jennings, like Hank Williams junior, Johnny Cash's lawyer.

1382
01:22:25,159 --> 01:22:29,279
Speaker 2: Like that, that's like, well, I mean, what is that like?

1383
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: So what like I'm not trying to be rude, but like,

1384
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,399
that's not like that's like, that's not like some power

1385
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,000
player position to be Like, I mean, I know Hank

1386
01:22:38,039 --> 01:22:41,039
Williams Junior. It's not like I don't call it. I

1387
01:22:41,079 --> 01:22:43,079
don't call the shots because I know Hank Williams.

1388
01:22:44,279 --> 01:22:45,520
Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying with that.

1389
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 24: I I'm not I'm not saying that's like, uh, you

1390
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,359
know one hundred percent, you know, indisputable proof that he's okay.

1391
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: So Brazil eight years ago. So again, so if he's

1392
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,199
twenty five or seven, would you say.

1393
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: Was I'm guessing he's twenty seven.

1394
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,199
Speaker 24: I don't remember exactly, but he's I mean, he's definitely

1395
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:04,119
under thirty five.

1396
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm I Paul, I'm sorry you have a situation

1397
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,960
like that. I would just try to wait until you

1398
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,279
can find a different, you know, better church. I hate

1399
01:23:11,319 --> 01:23:12,720
to hear that, but father, you can. Do you have

1400
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:17,840
any advice on clergy that try to say that everybody

1401
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,640
who is is a listener of Jay Dyer is an

1402
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,760
evil extremist who's gonna hurt people. It's just so ridiculous.

1403
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:34,600
FDA are either all right, I guess he's ill disposed.

1404
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:39,239
Maybe if he got a Ouiji board. He could be

1405
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,920
a pen pal with Razinski from the other side, so

1406
01:23:43,039 --> 01:23:49,199
it's not too late to be that's actually funny. But

1407
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,560
Mark Medlick five dollars, medic, are you reprising your well, No,

1408
01:23:54,640 --> 01:24:01,720
we already read that more Heads sixty four. Your Palpatine

1409
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,840
sounds like Cobra Commander. That wasn't my Palpatine. That was

1410
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:11,079
supposed to be Alex Jones's voice doing Palpatine. Jake the

1411
01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:13,119
guitar got fight dollars. If you was in the hood,

1412
01:24:13,119 --> 01:24:15,920
you would know us gangsters get into tickle fights all

1413
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,279
the time. That's how real man so to hit beef.

1414
01:24:19,239 --> 01:24:22,159
We don't do this debate shit. No, I agree with that.

1415
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:26,399
That's kind of a I mean, you got two levels

1416
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,720
to this. You got dance fighting and then you got

1417
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:46,840
the extreme tickle fights. Polycart FDA are either polycart. We

1418
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:47,720
want to on mute.

1419
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 11: Tested tist. That's so I want to talk about it.

1420
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:03,479
If your thinks go on actually one topic related about

1421
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,760
sexually one topic, so I want to talk about too.

1422
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,319
Quarantine six fourteen seventeen, where Saint Paul tells us not

1423
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,279
to be an unequally yoke with unbelievers and what concord

1424
01:25:14,319 --> 01:25:17,640
has CHRISTI pelile come out of me, separate, come out

1425
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,520
from midamie, separate says Lord, etcetera.

1426
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,159
Speaker 4: But I don't think this is.

1427
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Am Orthodox. I don't think this is I don't think.

1428
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,079
Speaker 6: This rule is obeyed in the Orthodox Church in general,

1429
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:34,960
because you have a clergy saying that it's okey to

1430
01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:40,760
marry a non Orthodox under certain exceptional situations, which is

1431
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,079
which I say, is impossible potography, you have many Orthodox

1432
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:49,479
having no non Orthodox friends. But actually, but whether it

1433
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,079
be in the lives of the same sort of writings

1434
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:55,600
of the stay we see, you see actually no example

1435
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,399
of that, like like, for example, let's say let's take

1436
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,159
marriage with Donox for example, I see multiple coculus. You

1437
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:04,920
said it's allowed, can be alive.

1438
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:11,359
Speaker 1: You said to not even have Orthodox non Orthodox friendship.

1439
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,720
That's silly. Get out of here, dude, all right, you

1440
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:26,079
can just go be pious on your own. What's up, Josh, Josh,

1441
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:26,439
I'm you.

1442
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Good?

1443
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 25: Ajay, how's it going, mate? Mane, Look, I'm just I'm

1444
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,199
just sitting here with the cold foster's in my hand.

1445
01:26:35,239 --> 01:26:38,000
And look, let me tell you straight. The banks don't

1446
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,439
actually want you to know this. But Sooshi. He was

1447
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:41,920
an ausy.

1448
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 3: My dad said, my camera's on the run.

1449
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 25: There's lizard people and they're all panicking because kangaroo coins

1450
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,439
about to replace the dollar.

1451
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:13,119
Speaker 1: That was funny. Lead, what's up, fleet us? What's up?

1452
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:13,479
I'm you.

1453
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 4: Mall.

1454
01:27:25,079 --> 01:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not trying to be rude. I

1455
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,760
was just waiting. I was waiting for it to make

1456
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,399
me laugh, and it just it wasn't really making me laugh.

1457
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:32,960
So I'm not I'm not being rude.

1458
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:33,239
Speaker 3: I just.

1459
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: What's up?

1460
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 8: Hey, Jay?

1461
01:27:38,399 --> 01:27:41,039
Speaker 9: I'm a newly converted all thoughts Christian from the UK.

1462
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:44,720
My diets you' spinned the Ecumenical Patriarch. I think it's

1463
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,520
twenty eighteen hour under Moscow. It's a rassianal thoughts parish

1464
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,399
and I'm just curious to someone.

1465
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: Who's new to all of it.

1466
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,520
Speaker 9: Can you explain why the Ecumenical Patriarch is doing what

1467
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,159
he's doing in terms of the Ukraine situation, the ecumenism

1468
01:27:59,319 --> 01:28:01,039
and how is it to such a point by.

1469
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,159
Speaker 1: Such a high Yeah, I have two old podcasts to

1470
01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:05,119
talk about that, so you can look up and then

1471
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:07,800
in the interviews with Jim Jatras. So it's a little

1472
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,520
too much to kind of rehearse all that, not being rude.

1473
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,039
I'm just saying, like you can look up the old

1474
01:28:12,279 --> 01:28:31,560
podcast on that. So yeah, let's see Daniel h Yeah, Yeah,

1475
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,000
go ahead, Yeah, are there.

1476
01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 26: I have a comment to make on I wish father

1477
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,359
or Nice is here, but I'll talk about my next

1478
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,079
my next thing.

1479
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,359
Speaker 2: So Sam Hyde kind of talked.

1480
01:28:46,079 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 26: About this, how uh, boomers and millennials are kind of

1481
01:28:51,039 --> 01:28:55,359
like the responsibility for why the West and especially the

1482
01:28:55,560 --> 01:29:00,600
like and politics have declined, because when you go to

1483
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:05,760
like these leftist protests or I'm in California, I saw it,

1484
01:29:06,399 --> 01:29:09,319
and I work in LA and San Francisco and I

1485
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,720
kind of see them occasionally, and it's just like forty

1486
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:18,840
to fifty year old cairns with masks on and just

1487
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,800
I don't know how it even gossip like bad? How

1488
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:31,159
are boomers so brainwashed it's becoming like this, And the

1489
01:29:31,279 --> 01:29:37,960
millennials especially, they're the most like comfortable with just letting

1490
01:29:39,239 --> 01:29:42,119
Americans get replaced in their own countries, and like.

1491
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,039
Speaker 2: Especially in the UK, like holy shit, it's so bad

1492
01:29:45,079 --> 01:29:45,439
over there.

1493
01:29:46,399 --> 01:29:50,039
Speaker 26: People are just complicit with getting replaced by third of olders.

1494
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:55,199
Speaker 2: And my kind of question is, like there's a.

1495
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 26: Revival of Christianity in the West, especially among But do

1496
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,800
you think it's gonna stay the same way because or

1497
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:09,039
kind of be different because like all gen Z women

1498
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:14,520
like I don't buy the traad wife like they're absolutely

1499
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,560
brainwashed from TikTok as well into leftist ideologies.

1500
01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:28,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, uh well I would you're cutting out, we

1501
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,880
can't hear you, But I would not. I would try

1502
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,479
to avoid being black pilled because I don't think everybody's

1503
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:38,399
bad and uh but at the same time, I mean,

1504
01:30:40,079 --> 01:30:42,840
you can't really control a lot of that stuff, So

1505
01:30:43,319 --> 01:30:47,279
I would worry more so about your own situation and

1506
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,720
fixing things in your life rather than a temptation to

1507
01:30:52,039 --> 01:30:55,520
worry about what the boomers are doing at the protest,

1508
01:30:56,399 --> 01:30:59,880
what's happening in the UK. Like, none of that is

1509
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:02,359
going to be fixed by you. I'm not saying you

1510
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,680
can't read about it or be aware of it. It's

1511
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,199
just not. As you get older, you're going to be

1512
01:31:08,359 --> 01:31:11,840
thinking more and more about your own situation and your

1513
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,720
own potential mate and you can find good people. There

1514
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,279
are still good In fact, we have at our church,

1515
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,680
you know, girls that just showed up that are new

1516
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,359
converts and young and I'm sure, the young guys at

1517
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:30,840
our church are going immediately going to hop on those opportunities.

1518
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,800
So I'm just saying, like, you can't be blackpilled and

1519
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,039
think that everything is bad and every I mean, it

1520
01:31:38,119 --> 01:31:42,239
really depends on what you make of your situation in

1521
01:31:42,319 --> 01:31:45,399
your life. I know that sounds like every boomer says this,

1522
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,800
every millennial says that, but it's true.

1523
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:48,359
Speaker 3: Right.

1524
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 1: I used to be complaining as a twenty year old

1525
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,439
that no, no, but no older person understands how about

1526
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,680
it is and this and that, And then at a

1527
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,359
certain point I was like, I'm not getting anywhere complaining

1528
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:05,880
about this all the time, so I need to take

1529
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,720
this time and energy and effort and put it into

1530
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:08,640
actually changing.

1531
01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:10,119
Speaker 2: So what did I do?

1532
01:32:10,319 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Well? Instead of whining and playing video games, I started

1533
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,399
writing essays and that turned into a book, and that

1534
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:21,439
book opened up the doorway to other things TV show, Right,

1535
01:32:22,279 --> 01:32:24,439
So it took a lot of time, it took a

1536
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:26,000
lot of effort. And I'm not saying you have to

1537
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:27,880
write a book. I'm just giving an example of like

1538
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:32,600
I could have continued to lament my situation or whatever,

1539
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:40,479
or decide to make the changes and deprioritize all the

1540
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:46,000
things happening two thousand miles away. Right again, like a

1541
01:32:46,079 --> 01:32:49,079
lot of young guys are obsessed with politics, and it's like,

1542
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,000
why are you even obsessed? It's like being obsessed with something.

1543
01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:55,680
It's it's almost as dumb as being obsessed with sports, right,

1544
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,439
Like people that are smart young guys that get really

1545
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:05,159
interested in politics, they dis guys that are into sports justifiably.

1546
01:33:06,119 --> 01:33:09,359
But then it's like, well, politics are just as dumb

1547
01:33:09,399 --> 01:33:13,680
as sports, because what are you, Like, are you actually

1548
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,159
going to be out there on the field with Dontarius

1549
01:33:18,319 --> 01:33:21,039
or whatever, like whoever, I don't even know these sports

1550
01:33:21,119 --> 01:33:24,840
ball heroes are. But it's like, no, okay, well are

1551
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,239
you going to be running a think tank in Washington

1552
01:33:28,359 --> 01:33:31,840
or a PR firm telling don Trump what to do?

1553
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:32,239
Speaker 2: And no?

1554
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: So then who cares? Like what is the What does

1555
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,760
any political shit actually do in your day to day

1556
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,319
life to change your life?

1557
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:44,279
Speaker 3: Not much?

1558
01:33:47,359 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: And by the time that you're thirty five and forty,

1559
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,880
you're going to realize that the politicians come and go,

1560
01:33:56,279 --> 01:33:59,880
the scandals come and go. All the same rhetoric and

1561
01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:02,920
that you heard when you were eighteen is the same

1562
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:05,079
rhetoric and stuff you're going to hear when you're forty

1563
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,600
and has anything changed. Well, probably the dystopia marched on

1564
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,760
regardless of the rhetoric of the politicians. So what does

1565
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,239
that mean. It means that it's deprioritized. Doesn't mean you

1566
01:34:18,359 --> 01:34:23,960
can't be interested in it or whatever. But what should

1567
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,600
I have done in my twenties? Put way more time

1568
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,359
into building my own business and doing my own stuff,

1569
01:34:31,079 --> 01:34:34,279
figuring things out on my own, not whining and bitching,

1570
01:34:34,359 --> 01:34:37,399
not playing video games, not wasting time drinking at the

1571
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,119
bar all the time, as I did in the twenties.

1572
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:45,359
In my twenties, not in the nineteen twenties. I mean,

1573
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:49,520
I understand, I appreciate the sentiment of thinking that you're

1574
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,720
going to have some future young conservative man run for president,

1575
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,960
but it's just so you guys are so naive. Man,

1576
01:34:56,359 --> 01:35:00,880
do you think the president actually changes things and controls things?

1577
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,439
But I guess that's just something that twenty year old

1578
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,199
guys are going to have to learn the hard way.

1579
01:35:08,359 --> 01:35:09,800
So you guys are going to learn the hard way,

1580
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,880
and then as you get older, you'll see that what

1581
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:21,159
we're saying is correct. Christ is risen. What's up? Even

1582
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:24,520
if you got a based dude elected? Like, what do

1583
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:35,279
you think that's going to do. Yeah, are you there?

1584
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

1585
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

1586
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: Yep, I saw.

1587
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,279
Speaker 3: I just want to ask a quick question.

1588
01:35:42,399 --> 01:35:45,039
Speaker 27: My friend told me I'm here, so I hear a

1589
01:35:45,079 --> 01:35:49,159
lot of Orthodox say to Protestants, Oh, you just follow

1590
01:35:49,279 --> 01:35:53,560
the Canon of Jerome. My question to you is from

1591
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,880
the Patristic age.

1592
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,359
Speaker 1: Where it Rome? What are you talking about Bible?

1593
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,039
Speaker 2: I mean what in Jerome?

1594
01:36:05,039 --> 01:36:05,079
Speaker 18: Er?

1595
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Orthodox say to like Protestants.

1596
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh you just follow Jerome.

1597
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I say, say, I see.

1598
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:14,319
Speaker 3: Where do the Orthodox get their cannon?

1599
01:36:14,399 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 15: Front from the.

1600
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:19,319
Speaker 1: Patristic Apostolic Canons and the Council of Rome. So one

1601
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:20,840
of them is in the East, one of them is

1602
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,319
in the West, and both of those accept the Doer

1603
01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:24,159
canonical books.

1604
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1605
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,399
Speaker 3: But isn't the Apostolic Canons that isn't it, missy?

1606
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:29,039
Speaker 2: A couple of books.

1607
01:36:30,039 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the point is that it accepts the duo canon.

1608
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,800
So I'm not saying that that's the definitive state of

1609
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,079
the canon being decided upon. That happens later a trollo.

1610
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,560
I'm saying that by the fourth century the Church had

1611
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,399
accepted in the East and the West the doer canonical texts.

1612
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:52,840
I have been just go watch the videos on this book.

1613
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,600
Go ahead. Oh, I have a whole response to west

1614
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,359
Huff on this where I go through all of this.

1615
01:37:01,279 --> 01:37:05,800
Go ahead. That's that's basically all I want to accepts

1616
01:37:06,279 --> 01:37:10,600
the cannon that's in the Carthage list.

1617
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:15,239
Speaker 7: Are you there?

1618
01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, that's basically all I want.

1619
01:37:20,359 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, you cut out there for a second. It

1620
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:27,079
was hard to hear what you're saying. But yeah, stress test.

1621
01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:32,920
What's up? Yeah? The videos and clips addressing wes Huff

1622
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:41,880
address do in more specific terms, stress test. Do you

1623
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:46,479
want to I mute? I don't want the internet section.

1624
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm here, Go ahead, what's on your mind? Yeah?

1625
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,279
This is our j Oklahoma. We just had quite a

1626
01:37:55,479 --> 01:38:01,640
visit to a conference business smith. Eric Trump showed up

1627
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:07,039
to speak, uh, interesting aspects to that. I don't know

1628
01:38:07,159 --> 01:38:10,960
that it contribute much to the debate here, but I

1629
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:13,399
just tuned in because my son's been a big listener.

1630
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,640
Of course, I've heard you all on Info Wars your

1631
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:22,880
show there. My son has become orthodox over the past years.

1632
01:38:23,279 --> 01:38:26,720
He's pretty pretty strong attendant, has got a couple of

1633
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,239
kids and his wife. His life started going. Now we've

1634
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had our debates over whether there's a significant difference, and

1635
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,560
I think there is, but I've never got it clear

1636
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:43,439
with him what his major concern was. And my concern,

1637
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:49,479
Jay is that Orthodox probably had the same cessationist doctrine.

1638
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:50,880
That's the that Rome.

1639
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,600
Speaker 1: That Rome has cessationism in the sense of miracles or

1640
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,039
in the sense of Israel.

1641
01:38:58,079 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 4: What do you mean, I mean, I mean the supernatural

1642
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,239
working of the Holy Spirit.

1643
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Orthodox Church or the Romancallic Church denies miracles.

1644
01:39:09,239 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 4: So as a regular practice, such as praying and the spirit.

1645
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Well as Orthodox, we believe praying in the spirit is

1646
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:23,880
noetic prayer, not what charismatic Pentecostals think.

1647
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 4: It helped me with that a little bit, meaning.

1648
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,399
Speaker 1: Prayer of the heart. So it's a direct prayer and

1649
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:37,680
perception of relationship with God that's not mediated. So it's

1650
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:41,039
a more of an intimate inner prayer of the inner man,

1651
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:48,439
not necessarily expressed with outward wrote prayers or something like that.

1652
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,079
So it's an intimate form of prayer that we think

1653
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:54,680
is real. But we don't believe that there are nude

1654
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,880
public divine revelations because there's many places in the New

1655
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:02,359
Testament where it's explicitly stated that revelation would cease in

1656
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,239
the sense of public divine revelations. That immediately cuts off

1657
01:40:05,279 --> 01:40:07,279
all Pentecostal charismatic churches.

1658
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 4: You mean that there are three there are three expressions

1659
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,640
of the Holy Spirit that are for you know, on

1660
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,239
interpretation and speaking in an unknown language that the speaker

1661
01:40:19,319 --> 01:40:24,119
doesn't know, versus a personal player time of edification, which

1662
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:28,600
is very different. That's a private that's a private form

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01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:29,640
of communication.

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Speaker 28: The language you don't know is an actual language like

1665
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:41,399
Latin or Romanian or something like that, and people aren't

1666
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,199
doing that today.

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Speaker 2: That was obviously that's a glossologia. That's the tongues of

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01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:46,239
the nations.

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01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 8: We certainly don't believe that people speak unknown language and

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01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:53,840
unknown to anybody.

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01:40:55,239 --> 01:40:58,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that absolutely does happen, and.

1672
01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 2: Even should we believe it's either demonic or uh a

1673
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:06,359
magication of mind.

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01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,119
Speaker 4: My uh passor that that was here in Tulisa for

1675
01:41:12,199 --> 01:41:16,479
a long time had notable miracles in his ministry, healing ministry,

1676
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,479
who was in Russia when they first opened up, and

1677
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,159
he was ministering through an interpreter, and then at one

1678
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:27,960
point he was he just went into on his own.

1679
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,079
A language is the Holy Spirit basically took over. He

1680
01:41:31,239 --> 01:41:33,960
was speaking, He was seping, I'll tell you that.

1681
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 1: How do you know that? How you know that that's

1682
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,600
of the Holy Spirit?

1683
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 2: You know, because I mean sorcerers and all kinds of

1684
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,000
people can do miracles.

1685
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 4: Now, the point is that the listener was hearing Russian.

1686
01:41:47,159 --> 01:41:51,000
He was there opening a church with a minister who.

1687
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,520
Speaker 2: You don't think You don't think demons have the.

1688
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 4: Power to do something demons can manifest? Absolutely?

1689
01:41:59,079 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Well then how do you know that that was

1690
01:42:01,159 --> 01:42:02,319
of God and demonic?

1691
01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:06,239
Speaker 4: Well, it was a word to the to the lady

1692
01:42:06,319 --> 01:42:10,920
in line that spoke in the kind of encouragement that

1693
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,720
it wasn't, you know, lying to her about something. It

1694
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,079
was revealing things that only the Holy Spirit would know.

1695
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,520
Dave Roverson does not know Russian.

1696
01:42:22,319 --> 01:42:25,359
Speaker 2: This was demons do the exact same thing.

1697
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,359
Speaker 1: You just admitted that demons can do that. So I'm

1698
01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:28,800
asking you, how do you know in this case it

1699
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:29,279
wasn't the.

1700
01:42:29,319 --> 01:42:33,239
Speaker 4: Money I said demons can make. Demons can make. Uh,

1701
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:36,199
I'm not saying they was speaking another language.

1702
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,520
Speaker 1: They can, they can, So they don't know other languages.

1703
01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 4: I think that they could go They're not going to

1704
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,399
go manifest through a spirit field.

1705
01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: And led the question, because how do we know that

1706
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,760
they're actually filled with the Holy Spirit and not demonically energized?

1707
01:42:58,359 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 4: You mean the minister that is from know like the

1708
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,199
one I know absolutely, I know.

1709
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, we think we would say that you're all in delusion.

1710
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,800
So the fact that you believe that you're of God,

1711
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,239
I understand that you believe that sincerely, and I don't

1712
01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:14,920
mean to be rude to you, but I'm asking you,

1713
01:43:15,079 --> 01:43:18,880
how do we how does anybody else know publicly in

1714
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,279
some verifiable way that that is the case.

1715
01:43:25,159 --> 01:43:29,520
Speaker 4: Because truth is spoken and it's not a Now, listen,

1716
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,720
there are people that come up in a I want

1717
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,640
to give credit to what you're saying. There there can

1718
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,560
be uh familiar spirits is what they're called, that are

1719
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,279
demonic that can tell someone, you know, how much money

1720
01:43:40,319 --> 01:43:43,960
is in the wallet, and and that's happened where uh

1721
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,760
for that that gift has been abused? I will say that,

1722
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,720
so it is it is an operating gift.

1723
01:43:53,159 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 8: The question is we're not saying stuff about wallets. The

1724
01:43:57,039 --> 01:43:59,760
devil quote scripture he uses.

1725
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 2: It's all the stuff that you're saying.

1726
01:44:02,399 --> 01:44:05,039
Speaker 8: So you're simply saying whoa he was preaching the gospel

1727
01:44:05,159 --> 01:44:08,520
and it was like, you know, and then something came true, like,

1728
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,840
how do you know that's not the mind the devil?

1729
01:44:12,319 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I turn on Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Copeland

1730
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,239
says that he has all these same experiences in his

1731
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,279
church with miracles and all this and that, and I

1732
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,960
think that it's pretty obviously Kenneth Copeland is a con

1733
01:44:24,079 --> 01:44:26,520
man and a liar. So how would we judge between

1734
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,920
the claims of your prophet and your your church versus

1735
01:44:30,039 --> 01:44:32,399
Kenneth Copeland's, Which how do we know what's right wrong?

1736
01:44:34,279 --> 01:44:38,199
Speaker 4: Well, if you're a president at the meeting and you

1737
01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:39,760
have the opportunity.

1738
01:44:39,359 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not president at the meeting, and I'm not

1739
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,279
president at your meeting. So when I have what the

1740
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,359
what's the public verifiable way to judge between these infinity

1741
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,279
charismatic claims which obviously can't all be true because they're

1742
01:44:50,279 --> 01:44:51,399
all teaching different doctrines.

1743
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 4: They saying that Copeland Copeland's or his doctrines are different

1744
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:01,720
and some others that are Pentecostal.

1745
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:07,079
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean do you do you teach the

1746
01:45:07,279 --> 01:45:08,199
prosperity gospel?

1747
01:45:10,319 --> 01:45:16,319
Speaker 4: You know, there's a consistency for the scripture that comes out.

1748
01:45:16,199 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Of what do you teach the prosperity gospel that Kenneth

1749
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:20,600
Cope teaches?

1750
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 4: Not in the same way that he does.

1751
01:45:25,039 --> 01:45:27,359
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's different doctrines. So how do I know

1752
01:45:27,399 --> 01:45:28,560
who's of the Holy Spirit here?

1753
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 4: It helps to be to be built up in the spirit,

1754
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:40,760
like it says in June twenty that you spend time praying.

1755
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 1: In the right Well, that's a subjective situation. How do

1756
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,279
I know what's the public verifiable way that any of

1757
01:45:45,359 --> 01:45:47,359
us have? Do you think Jesus left the church with

1758
01:45:47,399 --> 01:45:50,880
any public verifiable way to judge between these kinds of claims.

1759
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. Paul demonstrates that in First Corinthians fourteen. He instructs

1760
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,680
that people, the public judge that the group is there

1761
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,359
will judge it if somebody comes up with the prophecy

1762
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:09,600
that's flaky. You know, we don't see this as often today,

1763
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,039
but and that's what Kevin Zaidai teaches a phenomenal minister

1764
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,000
that let the public judge it, and that would be

1765
01:46:17,079 --> 01:46:20,199
the people that are present in that meeting, because a

1766
01:46:20,279 --> 01:46:23,640
lot of times they'll shout down someone that's flaky that

1767
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,520
you know. The other times they don't because it could

1768
01:46:26,359 --> 01:46:29,800
prophecies today. Oh yes, there are, Yeah, there are.

1769
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1770
01:46:31,079 --> 01:46:34,319
Speaker 1: So basically it comes down to what you decide.

1771
01:46:36,079 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 4: It needs to be people that are familiar with that,

1772
01:46:39,039 --> 01:46:41,359
that fellowship and the operation of the spirit.

1773
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:45,359
Speaker 2: But it says you, that's what the Word of God says.

1774
01:46:45,399 --> 01:46:47,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So your interpretation of the Word of God is

1775
01:46:47,359 --> 01:46:49,800
the final rule and said, if we just listened to

1776
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,039
you as our prophet, then everything would go smooth.

1777
01:46:53,159 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 4: Right, Jay, that's what Paul wrote in the scripture.

1778
01:46:57,079 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 1: I understand that you believe that that's what Paul wrote,

1779
01:47:00,199 --> 01:47:02,479
But that's your interpretation of what Paul wrote. We have

1780
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,560
a very different interpretation of Paul. So who judges between

1781
01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:07,920
all the different interpretations of.

1782
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:14,239
Speaker 4: Paul If we're sitting in a class and we're having

1783
01:47:14,319 --> 01:47:18,760
a discussion, you know, theologically over the scripture what it

1784
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:19,520
actually means.

1785
01:47:21,039 --> 01:47:25,359
Speaker 1: Did Jesus leave any public authority that could bind people's

1786
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,680
consciences after his death and after the apostle's death to

1787
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,359
make these kinds of decisions?

1788
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:32,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Holy Spirit?

1789
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:36,039
Speaker 1: Who okay? And and who what men make that decision

1790
01:47:36,119 --> 01:47:39,319
under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Anybody or just random.

1791
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 4: Had a solid church there's a there's a.

1792
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:47,239
Speaker 1: What's the solid church. You just keep begging the question,

1793
01:47:47,319 --> 01:47:51,279
because that's what. How what's the public discernible way to

1794
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,159
objectively decide between these conflicting.

1795
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 4: Claims For someone who's a skeptic, I don't. I don't

1796
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:01,319
that's going to be anything.

1797
01:48:02,199 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be rude to you, but I'm

1798
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,680
gonna we're just gonna have to stop here, and I

1799
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:07,840
guess we just have to disagree because I'm asking you

1800
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,640
a very fundamental question about the nature of authority in

1801
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:15,159
church history. The things that you're promoting were immediately condemned

1802
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:18,960
by the Church. They're called Montanus Montanism. Montanism was condemned

1803
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,359
precisely because of the things that I'm listing. You could

1804
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,119
never have any public, verifiable way with any authority to

1805
01:48:26,279 --> 01:48:31,039
say whose prophecies and whose interpretations are the new revelations

1806
01:48:31,079 --> 01:48:34,399
of the Holy Spirit. And that's why Montanism was immediately condemned,

1807
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:38,520
because it leads to delusion and prelast. So, uh, that's

1808
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,000
I don't know what else to say than that. I

1809
01:48:40,079 --> 01:48:43,199
have a whole video, by the way, if you're interested

1810
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:47,960
in u seeing what the New Testament argumentation is for

1811
01:48:48,119 --> 01:48:50,680
why there's not public divine revelations anymore?

1812
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:51,239
Speaker 3: Why that?

1813
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: What? No self awareness with people? Just consider this question.

1814
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 8: Because I'm really like the last couple week, especially with

1815
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:05,159
my students, I'm trying to get them the introspect, which

1816
01:49:05,239 --> 01:49:06,439
is what we do is orthodox.

1817
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,319
Speaker 2: Right. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not.

1818
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,279
Speaker 26: How do I know the.

1819
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 8: Exact questions you were asking, Jay? But think about this,

1820
01:49:15,039 --> 01:49:19,720
doesn't it don't you find it odd that nobody's speaking

1821
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,600
in these these tongues that they're saying all throughout church

1822
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,159
history and it just pops up and.

1823
01:49:27,079 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 21: What the night?

1824
01:49:28,039 --> 01:49:32,399
Speaker 1: There actually are there actually are some historical instances, well,

1825
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,720
there are groups that are heterodox and anti Trinitarian and

1826
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:39,000
saying so that, like, I don't think you want to

1827
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,399
align yourself with the few instances of these sort.

1828
01:49:42,279 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: Of fanatic things that it's weird. It's a weird.

1829
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird heterodox group. Now the video that

1830
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:52,399
I'm thinking of is this right here? And the same

1831
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:58,560
argument is applicable to Islam, Mormonism, Charismaticism, Seven Day Adventism,

1832
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,680
and all colts, because every one of these types of

1833
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:07,359
cults rests on the same assumption that there is a

1834
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,199
new revelation, and to Father Deacon's point, oh, the Holy Spirit,

1835
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:13,680
I guess he just got quiet for many, many centuries

1836
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,640
until the Azuza Street Revival. Was a bunch of lunatics

1837
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,359
in California, a bunch and by the way, many of

1838
01:50:20,399 --> 01:50:23,960
them anti Trinitarian. And I mean, if anti Trinitarians is

1839
01:50:24,039 --> 01:50:26,399
your benchmark for the movement to the Holy Spirit, then

1840
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:27,880
it's not the Holy Spirit. It's a demon.

1841
01:50:29,399 --> 01:50:32,159
Speaker 2: Also, I figured this out when I was in Calvary

1842
01:50:32,239 --> 01:50:33,720
Chapel when.

1843
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 8: I was like fifteen or sixteen years old, because my

1844
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,760
teachers used to try this SI out on me.

1845
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,239
Speaker 3: Oh, the Holy Spirit told me that.

1846
01:50:41,359 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 2: You weren't doing your homework.

1847
01:50:43,039 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 8: And so my retort was always like, well, that's crazy,

1848
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,880
because the Holy Spirit told me yesterday that.

1849
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:54,279
Speaker 2: The demon was going to visit you. I tell you,

1850
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,760
was the Holy Spirit to tell you that stupid lie?

1851
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,359
Speaker 8: And I'm like, so even if this is before I

1852
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:01,640
was even introduced.

1853
01:51:01,239 --> 01:51:03,119
Speaker 2: To philosophy, I knew that. I'm like, this is just

1854
01:51:03,279 --> 01:51:04,520
stupid subjective.

1855
01:51:05,159 --> 01:51:08,239
Speaker 8: I just one up you because it's like, well, Saint

1856
01:51:08,319 --> 01:51:13,159
Paul says, and the Holy Spirit says and this, but

1857
01:51:13,279 --> 01:51:17,680
as you showed, there's no objective rumor just each person's

1858
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,399
claiming the Holy Spirit and the Bible and Saint Paul,

1859
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,800
and and they don't get it.

1860
01:51:24,159 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying, that that's that's distinct from

1861
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:30,840
the public normative authority that makes a decision or that

1862
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:35,800
in some way can delineate between conflicting claims, or that

1863
01:51:36,399 --> 01:51:41,800
binds people's consciences. That's the difference between normative authority versus well,

1864
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the Bible says this, well, but but Paul says this. Yeah,

1865
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but we but every heretic thinks that Paul's on his side, right,

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So how do we go ahead?

1867
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Speaker 2: That's three point.

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Speaker 8: None of us deny that the Holy Spirit can't subjectively

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work in somebody. And we're not talking about new doctors.

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But the Holy Spirit that fills all things is a

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spirit of truth, like we obviously know it's like, if

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01:52:06,159 --> 01:52:09,439
you get the truth, it's obviously the Holy Spirit, okay,

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And so that a subject can receive that in a personal, private,

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subjective way, like I get that, right, And I'm not

1875
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talking subjectivism. However, when you come on to a stream

1876
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or an x space or something like this and you're

1877
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:31,279
making public objective statements, you've moved out categorically out of

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that realm. So, for example, what I'm saying is like, yeah,

1879
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the person who experiences a miracle Saint Paul on the

1880
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road to Damascus, that is a personal, private thing that

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there's no way to be able to explain what that

1882
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:51,319
was like. But when you move into the sphere of

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saying well, you're wrong and this is right, you moved

1884
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,399
into a different category and now you need you can't

1885
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,720
just be like, well, because you had to be there.

1886
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Speaker 2: You have to experience what I well, I have the

1887
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Holy Spirit. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: M Jacob? Eights and five dollars? Do you have any

1889
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:19,960
thoughts on Rousseau's Thomas Rousseau's America is only for Europeans?

1890
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What is the orthodox perspective on this? H I don't

1891
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,039
know how you prove that or show that, or like

1892
01:53:29,159 --> 01:53:31,359
how even relevant that is At this point, I'm not

1893
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,880
sure what to say on that. What's up, man, Jacob?

1894
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:47,079
You want to I'm mute? I mean, as native Europeans

1895
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:51,279
are in largely atheistic socialists, do we want a bunch

1896
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of them come up? Like Jacob? You want to mute?

1897
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:55,680
What's up? Jacob's ladder? Last chance?

1898
01:53:56,319 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Well, look what Russeau's read, you know, writing a particular history.

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Speaker 1: No, no, this is a different not jockracy. This is

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like a like a wig net cut, hilarious, Ali train,

1901
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:15,000
what's up, great Scott? Five dollars, one body, one church,

1902
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,079
three persons of the Yes, what's up man?

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01:54:21,399 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Jane? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Just I want to.

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Speaker 3: Pivot real quick to some geopolitics.

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Speaker 5: And so I studied terrorism as like part of my

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01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:45,359
like field of expertise, and so I've been I I

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don't know if you saw. I think you did a

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video on this. I didn't fully see everything on it,

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but it was about like how the National counter Terrorism

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Center said that all Kainda.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like gonna attack again or whatever. I

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don't know how familiar are.

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Speaker 2: You with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean it was in the news. So yeah, I

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talked about that the other day when we were doing

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our al Qaeda talk.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I've been What's interesting about that is I've been

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following that. So I've been like kind of on the side,

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following what al Qaeda and the Taliban have doing through

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different independent nonprofit organizations as in like former like retired

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intelligence officers and veterans, and I've talked to some of

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them and have looked at some of their work.

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Speaker 3: It's actually public, and.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you've heard anything about this, but

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they've they've been kind of like blowing the whistle essentially

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for the past since I would say twenty twenty three

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on this issue. And they've published a bunch of reports

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talking about how al Qaeda since twenty twenty one has

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grown exponentially to like basically it. They've published reports counter

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to what the government has said. And I stumbled upon

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these one time, and I had to weigh the difference

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between like who's more credible, and as time has gone on,

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what the government's claim of that al Qaeda's like no

1938
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longer in its prime and it's not like a big

1939
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problem or.

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Speaker 3: Anything like that.

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Speaker 5: Has been has not been substantiated, while the other people

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that make a different claim have been more substantiated and

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corroborated as time has gone on. For instance, the estimate

1944
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that I've seen is that al Qaeda has been funded

1945
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through our taxpayer dollars an them over the past four

1946
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years about twenty billion dollars through either NGOs or actually

1947
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direct support for quote unquote counter terrorism against ISIS, which

1948
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is hilarious but also fucking crazy.

1949
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Speaker 1: And uh so is there something a document you want

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to point me to or something to read?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1952
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Speaker 3: Is there any?

1953
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Speaker 5: Would you be okay if I like just DM you

1954
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like a lot of some documents and resources to where Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, mate, I thank you. You just send me

1958
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something on that. Maddie. What's up? I'm you, Maddie.

1959
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Speaker 2: What's bob am masigo? Can you hear me? Yeah, dude,

1960
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I've got a question.

1961
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I've actually got a question for you and Father

1962
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Deacon Anaaius.

1963
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Speaker 3: This might be a bit low tier.

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Speaker 18: I was just reading what I'm going through the the

1965
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Old Testament with I guess orthodox goggles, trying to recognize

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parts of it where I start.

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Speaker 2: Seeing things which you refer to as theophanies, right m h.

1968
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Speaker 3: And I see you had a debate with some dude,

1969
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this spurg dude on Twitter a while back.

1970
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Speaker 2: I think I don't.

1971
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Speaker 3: Remember his name, of his name is called like a misfit.

1972
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Speaker 18: Patriot, right, oh yeah, yeah, remember he brought up the

1973
01:58:33,159 --> 01:58:35,479
argument they're like, oh, if you look at the Old Testament,

1974
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it mentions the numerous places where like God says, like,

1975
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you know, my covenant with you is forever. And then

1976
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,119
the well in the debate, you mentioned him like these

1977
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things were fulfilled in Jesus, But the conversation starts to

1978
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derailing because he just starts spurging.

1979
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Speaker 2: I suppose you.

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Speaker 18: Could just quickly, I mean, I know it's a bit

1981
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load t heer.

1982
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Speaker 2: I apologize.

1983
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Speaker 16: I'm showing if you could expand upon that, because you

1984
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want to reading Genesis and all about it does mention

1985
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,680
about how like you know these and so forever.

1986
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Speaker 2: Obviously there's a change that happens when Jesus comment.

1987
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Speaker 1: Well, the change is just simply that that promise to Abraham,

1988
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the seed is the person of Christ. So the only

1989
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way that all the nations would be blessed through Abraham's

1990
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:20,159
seed is a seed person who could bless all the nations,

1991
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who is the son of David, who is the fulfillment

1992
01:59:23,159 --> 01:59:27,319
of the Mosaic promises and the Mosaic Messianic prophecies. So

1993
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if you read Galatians three, it's going to talk about

1994
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who that seed is that's promised to Abraham. So the

1995
01:59:34,359 --> 01:59:38,560
whole chapter of Galatians three will help to tie that in.

1996
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But Paul and Corinthians also says that all the promises

1997
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of the covenants, and when he says promises, he's talking

1998
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:50,840
about covenant promises are yay in Him in Christ. So

1999
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:56,439
that means the Noaic Covenant, the Mosaic Covenant, the Davidic Covenant,

2000
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,399
and even the Adamic Covenant, there's a covenant with Adam.

2001
02:00:00,039 --> 02:00:01,800
You read the New Testament, you realize that all of

2002
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:06,399
those figures, Adam, Noah, Moses, David, they're all images and

2003
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:11,399
predictors of Christ. So all the covenants converge and align

2004
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in Him. Thus there's only one covenant. And when you

2005
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:17,079
read the Book of Hebrews, it will make this clear,

2006
02:00:17,239 --> 02:00:20,399
especially in chapter eleven when it says that all the

2007
02:00:20,479 --> 02:00:22,920
people of God from the beginning of time until the

2008
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:27,039
end of the world are one heavenly city. And that's

2009
02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:30,680
the city that Galatians four talks about, the heavenly Jerusalem,

2010
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,439
which is the Church. So hopefully that helps to kind

2011
02:00:33,479 --> 02:00:36,960
of clear that up, because you're right, I remember that now.

2012
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I did want to go kind of deeper into that.

2013
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And there's a lot more text, a lot I don't

2014
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,800
want to overload you, but I have a video for example,

2015
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,079
you could look up a couple on the Messianic prophecies

2016
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:50,439
and how they're fulfilled in Christ, because it's the same

2017
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:54,439
principle behind covenant theology, and all the covenants being fulfilled

2018
02:00:54,479 --> 02:00:57,760
in Christ as well, exact same principle. So just as

2019
02:00:58,319 --> 02:01:03,399
all the Messianic prophecies point to Him, they are covenantal promises,

2020
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:08,079
so all the promises of the Messiah are Messianic covenantal promises.

2021
02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:11,119
And thus they all reach their apex in Him. And

2022
02:01:11,239 --> 02:01:15,840
thus there's not an Old Testament covenant with Israel the

2023
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:20,359
nation state separate from this covenant with people of Christ

2024
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:24,159
and so forth in the kingdom. That's dispensational theology, which

2025
02:01:24,199 --> 02:01:27,840
is which is heterodox, which is what misfit Patriot actually

2026
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,319
believes without knowing it. Even though he claimed to be

2027
02:01:30,399 --> 02:01:33,039
a quote Catholic, He's a complete mora on. He has

2028
02:01:33,079 --> 02:01:38,840
absolutely no idea what anything is. Irrationally irritable. Became a

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02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,199
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2040
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,359
Cheek t. What's up in PJ. How's it going good,

2041
02:02:20,399 --> 02:02:21,079
what's on your mind?

2042
02:02:22,119 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 2: I just wanted to.

2043
02:02:23,239 --> 02:02:25,399
Speaker 29: Kind of piggyback off of what you were discussing earlier

2044
02:02:25,439 --> 02:02:30,000
in regards to like race relations between I guess African

2045
02:02:30,039 --> 02:02:33,279
Americans or as I prefer to be called up Black

2046
02:02:33,279 --> 02:02:37,199
American and the various ethnic groups that compose the white

2047
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:39,159
community in the United States.

2048
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:40,439
Speaker 2: I think that it's.

2049
02:02:42,479 --> 02:02:45,439
Speaker 29: Really and not to be too reductive about it, but

2050
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,319
I think it's an issue of white liberals that causes

2051
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:52,359
the racial divide the most spurren on by obviously black

2052
02:02:52,399 --> 02:02:57,880
liberals who support their initiatives and like growing up, you know,

2053
02:02:58,359 --> 02:03:03,520
in New York State and interacting with white Hispanics Asians,

2054
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:08,119
there really isn't that much animus in that sense, at

2055
02:03:08,199 --> 02:03:13,479
least here. But I think that the liberal project really

2056
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:19,760
spurns on these divisive subgroups of people. And I think

2057
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:23,399
that for blacks and whites, like we can, at least

2058
02:03:23,439 --> 02:03:27,720
those that are American born, can reconcile our history insofar

2059
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:33,760
as you know, we both contributed to the continual, the

2060
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:38,800
continual growth of the nation, you know, either through quite

2061
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:43,319
literally slave slave labor and later inventions by both groups.

2062
02:03:43,399 --> 02:03:46,479
And I feel like all that is pasted over for

2063
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,600
a general you know, white people are bad, white people

2064
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,279
are the cause of all the world's evils, when when

2065
02:03:52,279 --> 02:03:56,279
you really look at it, like most of the inventions

2066
02:03:56,319 --> 02:04:00,920
that you know, pushed forward human development were found, you know,

2067
02:04:01,039 --> 02:04:04,239
with the European groups, with certain Asian groups, even you know,

2068
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:07,279
the Arabic numerals that we used today and the basis

2069
02:04:07,319 --> 02:04:10,239
for chemistry through their alchemical practices and things like that.

2070
02:04:10,479 --> 02:04:13,960
So not to sound liberal in the sense that like

2071
02:04:14,039 --> 02:04:17,439
we're all equal, but to really emphasize the point that

2072
02:04:18,199 --> 02:04:19,840
I think blacks and whites have a lot more in

2073
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:24,279
common in America and especially like our culture. You know,

2074
02:04:24,479 --> 02:04:26,760
we have a lot of shared ground there, and I

2075
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think are.

2076
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, I'm you know, I'm I'm honorary black.

2077
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: You know that, right, Yeah, you have several cards. I'll

2078
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:35,560
give you another one.

2079
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean I'm like infinity level now, So thank you.

2080
02:04:40,439 --> 02:04:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, man.

2081
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 29: But yeah, I do think that it's it's important for these,

2082
02:04:46,079 --> 02:04:48,920
you know, conversations to happen because I think that, like,

2083
02:04:49,039 --> 02:04:52,840
especially with the situation with Black Lives Matter, and like

2084
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:54,880
I was in college during that period of time, and

2085
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:58,680
it was absolutely insane to get a word in when

2086
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,159
it comes to like the fact that black people literally

2087
02:05:02,279 --> 02:05:04,239
do not live in a state of fear in America.

2088
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:07,960
We currently live in the best time period to be

2089
02:05:08,079 --> 02:05:13,199
black in this country. Like institutional discrimination basically doesn't exist

2090
02:05:13,279 --> 02:05:17,359
and it's outlawed, and there are like certain forms of

2091
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,520
discrimination that you know, I wish we had, you know,

2092
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,600
I wish that, you know, our freedom of.

2093
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 2: Association was.

2094
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 3: Uninhibited. You know, like you can't have.

2095
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:34,399
Speaker 29: Like men only or women only spaces or even you know,

2096
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black or white only spaces in the way that you

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used to be able to after the Silk Rights Act.

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Speaker 1: So no, I think if people had more freedom in

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that regard, there will probably be more harmony. But people

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can get sued under the guise of I don't know fairness,

2101
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I don't even understand the logic of it. Like, so,

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because if there was an all women's space, could I

2103
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see them and get get money? Like I'm sorrying to

2104
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:07,079
think maybe I should do that? Like is that is

2105
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that a way to get some bitcoins? Like sue some

2106
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women's spaces and get some money? Anyway, Hey, I appreciate

2107
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your comments. Man, uh good, good points there no one

2108
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says thank you for the strange I'm listening at work

2109
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off topic. There's a techno person you should check out

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called Mimo f R memo for real, memo f R

2111
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or memo for real, memo for oh look that he's

2112
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got the ORB? Is this a Sam Shamun based techno musician?

2113
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Because I see I see an ORB being pondered and

2114
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I don't know if I should listen to the orbs

2115
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or not, but y'all I'll have to listen to him.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Aunt.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

2118
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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Anybody disagree? Last chance? If you disagree, you go to

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the head line. As we come to a close ant

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you want to, I mute? Aunt? You want to? I mute?

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Eighty two five dollars after reading my Bible. My conclusion

2123
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has led me to Orthodoxy. I am from a Mexican family.

2124
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Do you see a lot of Hispanic orthodox Most are Catholic.

2125
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Actually a lot of Catholics are of Hispanics are talking

2126
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about and getting interested in Orthodoxy, And so I guess

2127
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I think the Internet is exposing a lot of people

2128
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to Orthodoxy, and more than we tend to imagine. Because

2129
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I keep hearing stories of Orthodox churches tripling. Our church

2130
02:07:55,479 --> 02:07:59,479
is tripling. So I guess this is just becoming more

2131
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of a you know, common thing. So that's good. Uh,

2132
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anybody else, last chance? My mind is turning the mush.

2133
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It's getting.

2134
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Speaker 25: Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't see anybody else. Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

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Remember to head over to chalk dot com use promo

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cod j is forty percent off or J forty four

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life to get a recurrerent description. Also, we are a

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couple of days out supposedly from Esotery Collywood three shipping.

2140
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That's good news. That means that you're gonna get copies

2141
02:08:34,319 --> 02:08:37,600
very soon. They will come to me. I will start

2142
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:44,680
marking off the I don't know, it's like two fifty

2143
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:48,800
three hundred orders or so, so we'll start chipping away

2144
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at that in the next hopefully this week, right, if

2145
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they come to me asap, I'll know in the next

2146
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few days right when the shipment's coming, and then I

2147
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,039
can guesstimate when they're gonna arrive here, and then I

2148
02:09:04,159 --> 02:09:08,399
can begin to We're gonna work from the people who

2149
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:13,560
first put the orders in, so you can still heading

2150
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:15,880
over to the website Jaysonelsons dot com in the shop

2151
02:09:16,479 --> 02:09:21,399
and sign up for Ester Collywood three. It's gonna take

2152
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a little while if you order it now, because as

2153
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I said, pre orders get the first DIBs on the

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signed copies.

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Speaker 2: But no worries.

2156
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:39,680
Speaker 1: You'll eventually get it, even if it takes a little while.

2157
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We don't run a giant corporation. It's just me and Jamie,

2158
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so that means Jamie and I do it one by

2159
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one and we take it to the post office day

2160
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by day. So I don't know why the internet's acting

2161
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so slow to day, but anyway, you can the link

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in the show description. Everybody, have a good night.