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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>This is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on

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<v Speaker 2>a Thursday morning, September twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the big stories we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, has just been

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<v Speaker 2>indicted and it is not good news for him wire

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<v Speaker 2>fraud and also I think campaign fund violations from a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign entity, the government of Turkey, and so he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a mess going on in his hands. Also, Florida is

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of trouble to panhandle with Florida Tallahassee

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<v Speaker 2>that area Helen Hurricane Helen, category four hurricane storm surge

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<v Speaker 2>up to twenty feet. I mean, this is life threatening,

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<v Speaker 2>is what they're saying. Unsurvivable is the way the national

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<v Speaker 2>weather system is telling them. Okay, let me go into

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<v Speaker 2>politics for a moment. I'm gonna give you a story.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start with this, a personal story, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to go on and talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>politics of what's going on. And this has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with Donald Trump gaining traction with Latinos that he actually

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<v Speaker 2>is doing better than he ever has and he is

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<v Speaker 2>gaining traction.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've often talked about Maria.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria was, well, he is our housekeeper and has been

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<v Speaker 2>for many, many years. Maria's from l Salvador, and Maria

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<v Speaker 2>came across the border many years ago in the trunk

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<v Speaker 2>of a car and was here illegally for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>And she became a citizen because Ronald Reagan, if you

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<v Speaker 2>remember or historically if you read about it, had an

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<v Speaker 2>amnesty program.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a very bright lady.

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<v Speaker 2>And immediately grabbed onto the amnesty program which allowed her

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<v Speaker 2>to have a green card, which allowed her than to

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<v Speaker 2>become a citizen, of which she is right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember that equivalent of the Million Man March

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<v Speaker 2>where you had I think five hundred thousand people that

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<v Speaker 2>were demonstrating in Los Angeles demanding that the borders be open,

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<v Speaker 2>demanding rights for illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean today you wouldn't have that, but there was.

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<v Speaker 2>And you remember the photos where all you did was

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<v Speaker 2>see Mexican flags and I was screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, you guys are nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be Americans and all you're seeing are

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of Mexican flags showing solidarity wherever the hell you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the second go round, when they put

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<v Speaker 2>it together the second time, which was not as big

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<v Speaker 2>or as or as newsworthy. They had American flags. So anyway, Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was I remember Tuesday or Thursday or a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>So Maria takes the day off.

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<v Speaker 2>She takes the day off and goes and joins that demonstration.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said to her when she came back, I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with you demonstrating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's your right.

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<v Speaker 3>This really is.

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<v Speaker 1>America, and of course you have the right to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You did it on my time.

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<v Speaker 2>You did it on a day that you were working

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and you didn't even ask. You just said

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<v Speaker 2>you're joining the demonstration. And I said, you do that again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll fire you. Not that you join that you

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<v Speaker 2>did it on my time without even telling me. And

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<v Speaker 2>we got into it and she and I said, so,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about why you want, you know, five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand or a million people to come over here illegally,

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<v Speaker 2>and why when they do they become citizens. Talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that for a moment, and she said, these.

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<v Speaker 1>Are my people.

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<v Speaker 2>They deserve the opportunity to come from an area where

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<v Speaker 2>they're starving, which is true, is far worse by the

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<v Speaker 2>way today it was then because of narco trafficantes, because

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<v Speaker 2>of the weather, the climate change, it's just got awful

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<v Speaker 2>to live, particularly in Central America. So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do this for you, Maria. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about what the future is the way you

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<v Speaker 2>and the other demonstrators envision. My kids go to private school.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, they go to a Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>Day school where they are taught to be little Jewish princesses.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, they succeeded beyond all my wildest imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>So my kids, there are twenty two kids in a classroom,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some classrooms there's fourteen kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You get your way.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kids, of course, are going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>La unified public school. Instead of thirty five or thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight kids in a classroom, they'll be fifty and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>kids in a classroom. And look at what we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to pay, not for legal immigration, for

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigration, because that demonstration was pushing open borders.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody that wants to come in and go, who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for it? You're on salary.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't pay you under the table how much taxes

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<v Speaker 2>you think is going to cost you? And she started looking,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, yeah, her kids were in school, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden she starts doing the numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>realizes that the kids are going to get a substandard

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<v Speaker 2>education because the school system simply won't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>put up with it just won't, which is basically what

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<v Speaker 2>happened anyway, and our system was going to be completely

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<v Speaker 2>overrun and we wouldn't have the resources.

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<v Speaker 1>And as she's thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>This, yeah, by the way, if you ask her now

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<v Speaker 2>about illegal immigration, she is going to pound the table

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<v Speaker 2>and say keep them out. We don't want illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>She has gone completely the other way. If I want

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<v Speaker 2>a poster child to stop illegal immigration from south of

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<v Speaker 2>the border, it's Maria.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that story, I am now going to go

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<v Speaker 2>into why Maria's are more common than ever before, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is Latino's screaming about immigration on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>stopping immigration from coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>That you don't see. But that movement is growing.

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<v Speaker 2>That movement is growing, and Donald Trump is riding the

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<v Speaker 2>crest of that wave, even though he's considered by many

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<v Speaker 2>to be anti Latino, which by the way, he isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to let you know he's anti illegal immigration. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be Albanians and it would be the same. But

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<v Speaker 2>the reason it is Latino because everybody, most of the

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<v Speaker 2>people that come across the border happened to be Latino.

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<v Speaker 2>The politics of it are very interesting because Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>runs is running in one of his primary platforms is

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<v Speaker 2>the border, the southern border, and how Biden Harris during

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<v Speaker 2>the administration has failed miserably in not stopping illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would think of all the people that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a little sensitive, that would be Latinos, and they're saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>these are my people, what are you doing. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a growing trend of Latinos that are going the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, you know what, we don't want illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is counterintuitive, but when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, it makes sense. These are people that

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<v Speaker 2>are here legally. They are Latino. They are conservatives. One guy,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go online, he's known as Conservative Anthony. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is Pedro Antonio Aguera and he is known as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the conservative commentators out there arguing that our

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<v Speaker 2>borders are too porous. And as he points out, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is true, many Latinos have shifted to the right

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<v Speaker 2>on immigration in recent years, like the idea of building

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<v Speaker 2>that wall, shutting down the southern border, conducting mass deportations.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, of all the people that I would think,

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<v Speaker 2>as Donald Trump says Day one, I'm going to deport

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<v Speaker 2>eleven million people, they're saying, yep, works for us. Support

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump among Latino voters grew by eight percentage points

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, and Trump continues to

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<v Speaker 2>make inroads with Latino voters. That number is increasing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>why why, Well, for the same reasons. Well, the number

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<v Speaker 2>one reason actually if you look at it, and this

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<v Speaker 2>was out of the Atlantic and a lot of Latinos

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<v Speaker 2>were interviewed, is that we are more American than we

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<v Speaker 2>are Latino, and we should defend America, and our loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>is to America. And we are frightened of our jobs

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<v Speaker 2>being taken over. We are frightened of the crime that's

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<v Speaker 2>going over the border. We're frightened that opportunities are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be gone because of illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of hard. It's easy for a white

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<v Speaker 1>person to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be anti immigration because it's them now, they're Latino. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not right. They come from a culture I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up here, regular white person going to school

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, and I didn't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>the borders. Although I did come over the border, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was on a PanAm plane and I landed in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles and it was very legal, and I was five.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point they're making is the fact that these

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<v Speaker 2>are Latinos doesn't really matter. It's illegal immigration, and that is,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, that is resonating big time because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these folks are saying, look, what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So the author of this article grabbed Aguero and they

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<v Speaker 2>patrolled the border, went down there and started just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the border. Okay, footprints, discarded clothes, plastic water bottles, trash,

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<v Speaker 2>underground tunnels that smugglers and immigrants used to hide from

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<v Speaker 2>border patrol agents.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all laid out there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, a Swiss NGO non governmental organization that

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<v Speaker 2>helps people all over the world said that in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one alone, more than nine hundred migrants died or

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<v Speaker 2>went missing trying to cross the border, and the US

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican border is the most lethal border in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Also found were belts and two laces on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>and those prove border patrol apprehensions. Why because when illegal aliens,

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<v Speaker 2>when immigrants undocumented quote, are caught, the agents have them

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<v Speaker 2>remove their laces and belts because they are deemed too dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is an issue of suicide. Wow, I never

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<v Speaker 2>even thought of that. And here's the other issue. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is one where I obviously look at Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>go your kind of nuts, and he portrays the people

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<v Speaker 2>coming over the border as criminals, as rapists, They're drug dealers, narcotraficantes.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the people that are coming over the border,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>The vast and not to say that there aren't some,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fast vast majority of people that come over

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<v Speaker 2>trying to cross the border are people that just are

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a better life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't make a living anymore. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the triangle between Honduras, s Guatemala and Costa Rica,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this sort of golden triangle there that used to

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<v Speaker 2>be the bread basket of of that area. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>desert now the climate is well, just wipe it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing there.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at the crime, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>how miserable it is. I would come to the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I would certainly come here for my family, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you can get in, if you can get in, sneak

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<v Speaker 2>in and somehow stay and have no marketable skills, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, you have no education, no marketable skills whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Very few high end surgeons sneak across the border for Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to let you know that even with that,

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<v Speaker 2>and as vulnerable as they are, the light you can survive,

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<v Speaker 2>send money back home to family and not starve to death,

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<v Speaker 2>and have some opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see why they do this.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's interesting here is the number of people, the

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<v Speaker 2>number of Latinos that are looking at the conservative side.

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<v Speaker 2>So five million dollars, you don't pay it, five million

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<v Speaker 2>or four million, nine hundred nine, nine nine hundred ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a different animal because you are not.

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<v Speaker 2>There was something, there was something slightly immoral about making

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at people like Bernie Sanders saying,

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that phrase. I've never figured out what your fair

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<v Speaker 2>gets much much bigger the more money you make. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>But then you reach the point where it's Bernie Sanders land.

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<v Speaker 2>He was once asked what do you think is a

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<v Speaker 1>Income tax? He said, basically, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone asked him, I think it was a reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, Senator, would you think seventy percent income tax would

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<v Speaker 2>if you sell your house over five million, is four

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 2>And over ten million, it's only four point four percent,

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<v Speaker 1>And where does this go. Well, it goes to the homeless.

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<v Speaker 2>Different programs compensating landlords for tenants behind rent, expansion of

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<v Speaker 2>All of that rolls into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And where are we going to get it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>We never have enough money. Ever, that doesn't matter how

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<v Speaker 2>So now the easy thing is to, for example, nail developers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's tax the hell out of developers until

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<v Speaker 2>the point where you can't afford it anymore. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there are taxes that are ridiculous out there, Sam Berdandino.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to the Riverside County, they have a tax

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<v Speaker 2>which they call the kangaroo rat tax, which is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 2>rat and that comes out of developers. And so here

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<v Speaker 2>we go with if you have money. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars a year. But how much more you know the

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you really charge additional taxes for the

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<v Speaker 1>Do I pay more sales tax?

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<v Speaker 2>For example, if I make one hundred thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any limit?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? By the way, job before we bail out of

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<v Speaker 2>here and go to mode that is, it was originally

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<v Speaker 2>It's raising three hundred and seventy five million, which even

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't even come out. Okay, So measure ula and we

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<v Speaker 1>get to vote ourselves even more taxes. Isn't that special?

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<v Speaker 1>But only for the rich people? Okay, very few people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's those people over there.

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<v Speaker 2>We on a Thursday always go to mo Kelly, host

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<v Speaker 2>of Later with mo Kelly, and that's every night seven

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<v Speaker 2>to ten pm Monday through Friday, and our segment is

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<v Speaker 2>earlier with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, mo good morning, let's forstarts.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So news that broke about Disneyland is when you see

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<v Speaker 2>the parade. You saw Mickey Mouse with one of his

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with Disney and layoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a mixed picture.

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<v Speaker 4>Disney laid off about three hundred employees across corporate and

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<v Speaker 4>legal and finance. And this is the latest round of layoffs,

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<v Speaker 4>because back in July they had another two hundred they

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<v Speaker 4>were laid off, and back a year ago they laid

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<v Speaker 4>off like a thousand employees around the around the world,

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<v Speaker 4>rolled across the whole Disney spectrum. But the mixed picture

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<v Speaker 4>is that movies are up, the projected earnings are up,

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<v Speaker 3>And when Bob Iiger came.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to Disney to replace Bob Chapek, they said that

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<v Speaker 3>And it hasn't quite turned around yet.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you look at the bigger picture going into

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm assuming no one was fired from the amusement park.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, certainly they're not the right operators. Everybody involved

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<v Speaker 2>in employment there was not laid off or am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't say that anyone from the amusement park side

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<v Speaker 4>was laid off. These were just more like corporate trimming

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that big news?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're talking about, what do they have eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that even news?

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<v Speaker 4>It's news because it's a progression where each six months

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<v Speaker 4>or so they are laying off. I wouldn't say a

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<v Speaker 4>significant number, but a consistent number of employees, and Disney

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<v Speaker 4>has not had that type of negative publicity for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>And this comes on the heels again of Bob Iger

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<v Speaker 4>They had laid off people in television because Disney is

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<v Speaker 4>moving away from its television properties. They're releasing fewer movies

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<v Speaker 4>and for the first quarter they've seen some good first time,

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<v Speaker 4>and making it much more solvent.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you talk about getting away from TV, is

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<v Speaker 2>that all the majors except maybe the TV networks themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>although I see stuff, you know, the ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>Of produced product and it's on streaming.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to get away from the linear broadcast television portion.

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<v Speaker 4>And for years now there have been rumors about their

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<v Speaker 4>not going to completely leave because obviously they have the

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<v Speaker 4>Disney streaming bundle with Hulu and a lot of those

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<v Speaker 4>But they are seemingly trying to unload the ABC portion

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, Mo.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch it tonight at seven pm. His social address

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<v Speaker 2>at mister Mo Kelly Mo, you have a good one,

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<v Speaker 2>you too, see soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Thursday we talked to him about what's going on

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