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Speaker 2: This is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on
Speaker 2: a Thursday morning, September twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: Some of the big stories we're looking at.
Speaker 2: Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, has just been
Speaker 2: indicted and it is not good news for him wire
Speaker 2: fraud and also I think campaign fund violations from a
Speaker 2: foreign entity, the government of Turkey, and so he's got
Speaker 2: a mess going on in his hands. Also, Florida is
Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble to panhandle with Florida Tallahassee
Speaker 2: that area Helen Hurricane Helen, category four hurricane storm surge
Speaker 2: up to twenty feet. I mean, this is life threatening,
Speaker 2: is what they're saying. Unsurvivable is the way the national
Speaker 2: weather system is telling them. Okay, let me go into
Speaker 2: politics for a moment. I'm gonna give you a story.
Speaker 2: I want to start with this, a personal story, and
Speaker 2: then I'm going to go on and talk about the
Speaker 2: politics of what's going on. And this has to do
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump gaining traction with Latinos that he actually
Speaker 2: is doing better than he ever has and he is
Speaker 2: gaining traction.
Speaker 1: So I've often talked about Maria.
Speaker 2: Maria was, well, he is our housekeeper and has been
Speaker 2: for many, many years. Maria's from l Salvador, and Maria
Speaker 2: came across the border many years ago in the trunk
Speaker 2: of a car and was here illegally for many years.
Speaker 2: And she became a citizen because Ronald Reagan, if you
Speaker 2: remember or historically if you read about it, had an
Speaker 2: amnesty program.
Speaker 1: She's a very bright lady.
Speaker 2: And immediately grabbed onto the amnesty program which allowed her
Speaker 2: to have a green card, which allowed her than to
Speaker 2: become a citizen, of which she is right now. So
Speaker 2: do you remember that equivalent of the Million Man March
Speaker 2: where you had I think five hundred thousand people that
Speaker 2: were demonstrating in Los Angeles demanding that the borders be open,
Speaker 2: demanding rights for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: I mean today you wouldn't have that, but there was.
Speaker 2: And you remember the photos where all you did was
Speaker 2: see Mexican flags and I was screaming.
Speaker 1: I go, you guys are nuts.
Speaker 2: You want to be Americans and all you're seeing are
Speaker 2: hundreds of Mexican flags showing solidarity wherever the hell you're doing.
Speaker 2: By the way, the second go round, when they put
Speaker 2: it together the second time, which was not as big
Speaker 2: or as or as newsworthy. They had American flags. So anyway, Maria,
Speaker 2: and this was I remember Tuesday or Thursday or a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: So Maria takes the day off.
Speaker 2: She takes the day off and goes and joins that demonstration.
Speaker 2: And I said to her when she came back, I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with you demonstrating.
Speaker 1: You know, that's your right.
Speaker 3: This really is.
Speaker 1: America, and of course you have the right to do it.
Speaker 1: You did it on my time.
Speaker 2: You did it on a day that you were working
Speaker 2: for me, and you didn't even ask. You just said
Speaker 2: you're joining the demonstration. And I said, you do that again,
Speaker 2: and I'll fire you. Not that you join that you
Speaker 2: did it on my time without even telling me. And
Speaker 2: we got into it and she and I said, so,
Speaker 2: let's talk about why you want, you know, five hundred
Speaker 2: thousand or a million people to come over here illegally,
Speaker 2: and why when they do they become citizens. Talk about
Speaker 2: that for a moment, and she said, these.
Speaker 1: Are my people.
Speaker 2: They deserve the opportunity to come from an area where
Speaker 2: they're starving, which is true, is far worse by the
Speaker 2: way today it was then because of narco trafficantes, because
Speaker 2: of the weather, the climate change, it's just got awful
Speaker 2: to live, particularly in Central America. So I said, okay,
Speaker 2: let me do this for you, Maria. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: let's talk about what the future is the way you
Speaker 2: and the other demonstrators envision. My kids go to private school.
Speaker 1: As you know, they go to a Jewish.
Speaker 2: Day school where they are taught to be little Jewish princesses.
Speaker 2: And by the way, they succeeded beyond all my wildest imagination.
Speaker 2: So my kids, there are twenty two kids in a classroom,
Speaker 2: and in some classrooms there's fourteen kids.
Speaker 1: You get your way.
Speaker 2: And the kids, of course, are going to go to
Speaker 2: La unified public school. Instead of thirty five or thirty
Speaker 2: eight kids in a classroom, they'll be fifty and sixty
Speaker 2: kids in a classroom. And look at what we are
Speaker 2: going to have to pay, not for legal immigration, for
Speaker 2: illegal immigration, because that demonstration was pushing open borders.
Speaker 1: Anybody that wants to come in and go, who's going
Speaker 1: to pay for it? You're on salary.
Speaker 2: I don't pay you under the table how much taxes
Speaker 2: you think is going to cost you? And she started looking,
Speaker 2: and I go, yeah, her kids were in school, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she starts doing the numbers and
Speaker 2: realizes that the kids are going to get a substandard
Speaker 2: education because the school system simply won't be able to
Speaker 2: put up with it just won't, which is basically what
Speaker 2: happened anyway, and our system was going to be completely
Speaker 2: overrun and we wouldn't have the resources.
Speaker 1: And as she's thinking about.
Speaker 2: This, yeah, by the way, if you ask her now
Speaker 2: about illegal immigration, she is going to pound the table
Speaker 2: and say keep them out. We don't want illegal immigration.
Speaker 2: She has gone completely the other way. If I want
Speaker 2: a poster child to stop illegal immigration from south of
Speaker 2: the border, it's Maria.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So with that story, I am now going to go
Speaker 2: into why Maria's are more common than ever before, and
Speaker 2: that is Latino's screaming about immigration on the other side,
Speaker 2: stopping immigration from coming in.
Speaker 1: That you don't see. But that movement is growing.
Speaker 2: That movement is growing, and Donald Trump is riding the
Speaker 2: crest of that wave, even though he's considered by many
Speaker 2: to be anti Latino, which by the way, he isn't.
Speaker 2: Just to let you know he's anti illegal immigration. It
Speaker 2: could be Albanians and it would be the same. But
Speaker 2: the reason it is Latino because everybody, most of the
Speaker 2: people that come across the border happened to be Latino.
Speaker 2: The politics of it are very interesting because Donald Trump
Speaker 2: runs is running in one of his primary platforms is
Speaker 2: the border, the southern border, and how Biden Harris during
Speaker 2: the administration has failed miserably in not stopping illegal immigration.
Speaker 2: And you would think of all the people that would
Speaker 2: be a little sensitive, that would be Latinos, and they're saying, hey,
Speaker 2: these are my people, what are you doing. Well, there's
Speaker 2: a growing trend of Latinos that are going the other way.
Speaker 2: They're saying, you know what, we don't want illegal immigration.
Speaker 2: And that is counterintuitive, but when you think about it,
Speaker 2: you know what, it makes sense. These are people that
Speaker 2: are here legally. They are Latino. They are conservatives. One guy,
Speaker 2: if you go online, he's known as Conservative Anthony. His
Speaker 2: name is Pedro Antonio Aguera and he is known as
Speaker 2: one of the conservative commentators out there arguing that our
Speaker 2: borders are too porous. And as he points out, and
Speaker 2: this is true, many Latinos have shifted to the right
Speaker 2: on immigration in recent years, like the idea of building
Speaker 2: that wall, shutting down the southern border, conducting mass deportations.
Speaker 2: I mean, of all the people that I would think,
Speaker 2: as Donald Trump says Day one, I'm going to deport
Speaker 2: eleven million people, they're saying, yep, works for us. Support
Speaker 2: for Trump among Latino voters grew by eight percentage points
Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, and Trump continues to
Speaker 2: make inroads with Latino voters. That number is increasing. I mean,
Speaker 2: why why, Well, for the same reasons. Well, the number
Speaker 2: one reason actually if you look at it, and this
Speaker 2: was out of the Atlantic and a lot of Latinos
Speaker 2: were interviewed, is that we are more American than we
Speaker 2: are Latino, and we should defend America, and our loyalty
Speaker 2: is to America. And we are frightened of our jobs
Speaker 2: being taken over. We are frightened of the crime that's
Speaker 2: going over the border. We're frightened that opportunities are going
Speaker 2: to be gone because of illegal immigration.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of hard. It's easy for a white
Speaker 1: person to.
Speaker 2: Be anti immigration because it's them now, they're Latino. I'm
Speaker 2: not right. They come from a culture I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I grew up here, regular white person going to school
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and I didn't have to worry about
Speaker 2: the borders. Although I did come over the border, but
Speaker 2: it was on a PanAm plane and I landed in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles and it was very legal, and I was five.
Speaker 2: But the point they're making is the fact that these
Speaker 2: are Latinos doesn't really matter. It's illegal immigration, and that is,
Speaker 2: let me tell you, that is resonating big time because
Speaker 2: a lot of these folks are saying, look, what's happening.
Speaker 2: So the author of this article grabbed Aguero and they
Speaker 2: patrolled the border, went down there and started just looking
Speaker 2: at the border. Okay, footprints, discarded clothes, plastic water bottles, trash,
Speaker 2: underground tunnels that smugglers and immigrants used to hide from
Speaker 2: border patrol agents.
Speaker 1: It's all laid out there. Okay.
Speaker 2: By the way, a Swiss NGO non governmental organization that
Speaker 2: helps people all over the world said that in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one alone, more than nine hundred migrants died or
Speaker 2: went missing trying to cross the border, and the US
Speaker 2: Mexican border is the most lethal border in the world.
Speaker 2: Also found were belts and two laces on the ground,
Speaker 2: and those prove border patrol apprehensions. Why because when illegal aliens,
Speaker 2: when immigrants undocumented quote, are caught, the agents have them
Speaker 2: remove their laces and belts because they are deemed too dangerous.
Speaker 2: And there is an issue of suicide. Wow, I never
Speaker 2: even thought of that. And here's the other issue. And
Speaker 2: this is one where I obviously look at Trump and
Speaker 2: go your kind of nuts, and he portrays the people
Speaker 2: coming over the border as criminals, as rapists, They're drug dealers, narcotraficantes.
Speaker 1: Those are the people that are coming over the border,
Speaker 1: which of course is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: The vast and not to say that there aren't some,
Speaker 2: but the fast vast majority of people that come over
Speaker 2: trying to cross the border are people that just are
Speaker 2: looking for a better life.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: You can't make a living anymore. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: look at the triangle between Honduras, s Guatemala and Costa Rica,
Speaker 2: there's this sort of golden triangle there that used to
Speaker 2: be the bread basket of of that area. It's a
Speaker 2: desert now the climate is well, just wipe it out.
Speaker 1: Nothing there.
Speaker 2: And if you look at the crime, you look at
Speaker 2: how miserable it is. I would come to the United States.
Speaker 2: I would certainly come here for my family, because if
Speaker 2: you can get in, if you can get in, sneak
Speaker 2: in and somehow stay and have no marketable skills, by
Speaker 2: the way, you have no education, no marketable skills whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Very few high end surgeons sneak across the border for Mexico.
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that even with that,
Speaker 2: and as vulnerable as they are, the light you can survive,
Speaker 2: send money back home to family and not starve to death,
Speaker 2: and have some opportunity.
Speaker 1: So you can see why they do this.
Speaker 2: But what's interesting here is the number of people, the
Speaker 2: number of Latinos that are looking at the conservative side.
Speaker 1: And I never thought that would happen. I thought there's
Speaker 1: just this tiny.
Speaker 2: Little group of people that were trumpets in the sense
Speaker 2: of southern border that's growing, that is growing. We have
Speaker 2: a mansion tax here in the city of Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and we passed that two years ago, Measure ULA, and
Speaker 2: this is the tax that if you sell a home
Speaker 2: over five million.
Speaker 1: Dollars, four percent goes to the city.
Speaker 2: So five million dollars, you don't pay it, five million
Speaker 2: or four million, nine hundred nine, nine nine hundred ninety nine,
Speaker 2: say whatever you don't pay it soon as he his
Speaker 2: five million boom two hundred grand goes to the city,
Speaker 2: and this was to fund homelessness the mansion tax. Turns out,
Speaker 2: the mansion tax really isn't making money because of mansions.
Speaker 2: It is for the most part making money from the
Speaker 2: sale of apartment buildings, offices, retail centers.
Speaker 1: And that is a different animal because you are not.
Speaker 2: Talking about individuals who own mansions. You're talking about people
Speaker 2: that own apartment buildings, not necessarily millionaires, or offices or
Speaker 2: retail space. These are not necessarily millionaires, and the tax
Speaker 2: is being nailed on them. You know, there's something about
Speaker 2: taxation that drives me completely crazy, and that is this
Speaker 2: philosophy that if you have a lot of money, if
Speaker 2: you earn a lot of money, you should pay a
Speaker 2: great part of that to the government. Before Margaret Thatcher,
Speaker 2: and you know, I have a lot of friends in
Speaker 2: England before market threat, Margaret Thatcher became a Prime minister
Speaker 2: during the Reagan years being rich in England, and I
Speaker 2: think that translates now more so than.
Speaker 1: It did before.
Speaker 2: There was something, there was something slightly immoral about making
Speaker 2: a lot of money just wasn't the same as inheriting,
Speaker 2: particularly if you're talking about viscounts and dukes and all
Speaker 2: that crap. That's okay, But working and developing businesses and
Speaker 2: making a lot of money somehow was a little distasteful.
Speaker 2: And when you look at people like Bernie Sanders saying,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to pay more and a lot more,
Speaker 2: and this same thinking. If you have a house and
Speaker 2: it's worth more than five million dollars, let's have you
Speaker 2: pay more than anybody else, because you really, if you
Speaker 2: have that much money, you've got to share it. You know,
Speaker 2: your fair I love that your fair share. Have you
Speaker 2: noticed that phrase. I've never figured out what your fair
Speaker 2: share is. All I know is that your fair share
Speaker 2: gets much much bigger the more money you make. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with a graduated income tax, I get that.
Speaker 2: But then you reach the point where it's Bernie Sanders land.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: He was once asked what do you think is a
Speaker 2: fair tax?
Speaker 1: Income tax? He said, basically, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I'll I'll see it, you know, I'll think, okay,
Speaker 2: this is enough.
Speaker 1: And someone asked him, I think it was a reporter.
Speaker 2: Saying, Senator, would you think seventy percent income tax would
Speaker 2: be fair, and he said that sounds about right. So
Speaker 2: if you sell your house over five million, is four
Speaker 2: percent enough on top of everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 2: And over ten million, it's only four point four percent,
Speaker 2: So that part is a miracle.
Speaker 1: And where does this go. Well, it goes to the homeless.
Speaker 2: Different programs compensating landlords for tenants behind rent, expansion of
Speaker 2: eviction defense programs will pay for the lawyer defending a
Speaker 2: defending an eviction, Stronger enforcement of the anti harassment rules.
Speaker 2: In other words, we're going to make sure homeless people
Speaker 2: are protected much more. And of course, new affordable housing.
Speaker 2: All of that rolls into it.
Speaker 1: And where are we going to get it? I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't take it out of the general fund.
Speaker 2: We never have enough money. Ever, that doesn't matter how
Speaker 2: much money comes in. There's never enough money out there.
Speaker 2: So now the easy thing is to, for example, nail developers.
Speaker 2: You know, let's tax the hell out of developers until
Speaker 2: the point where you can't afford it anymore. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are taxes that are ridiculous out there, Sam Berdandino.
Speaker 2: You go to the Riverside County, they have a tax
Speaker 2: which they call the kangaroo rat tax, which is exactly that.
Speaker 2: It's a tax to keep the habitat for the kangaroo
Speaker 2: rat and that comes out of developers. And so here
Speaker 2: we go with if you have money. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I have no problem taxing people. And I understand, you know,
Speaker 2: someone who makes a million dollars a year should pay
Speaker 2: more in taxes than someone who makes twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Dollars a year. But how much more you know the
Speaker 1: mansion tax?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you really charge additional taxes for the
Speaker 2: sale of homes?
Speaker 1: Do I pay more sales tax?
Speaker 2: For example, if I make one hundred thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: year than I would at fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 1: Is there any limit?
Speaker 2: Oh? By the way, job before we bail out of
Speaker 2: here and go to mode that is, it was originally
Speaker 2: supposed to raise one point one billion dollars a year.
Speaker 2: It's raising three hundred and seventy five million, which even
Speaker 2: though it seems like a lot of money what has
Speaker 2: been planned to do, then the number.
Speaker 1: Doesn't even come out. Okay, So measure ula and we
Speaker 1: get to vote ourselves even more taxes. Isn't that special?
Speaker 1: But only for the rich people? Okay, very few people.
Speaker 2: Most of us don't have five million dollar homes, so
Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: It's those people over there.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: We on a Thursday always go to mo Kelly, host
Speaker 2: of Later with mo Kelly, and that's every night seven
Speaker 2: to ten pm Monday through Friday, and our segment is
Speaker 2: earlier with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1: All right, mo good morning, let's forstarts.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So news that broke about Disneyland is when you see
Speaker 2: the parade. You saw Mickey Mouse with one of his
Speaker 2: ears off and there was no one there to actually
Speaker 2: sew it back on, and it looked kind of stupid.
Speaker 1: What is going on with Disney and layoffs.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a mixed picture.
Speaker 4: Disney laid off about three hundred employees across corporate and
Speaker 4: legal and finance. And this is the latest round of layoffs,
Speaker 4: because back in July they had another two hundred they
Speaker 4: were laid off, and back a year ago they laid
Speaker 4: off like a thousand employees around the around the world,
Speaker 4: rolled across the whole Disney spectrum. But the mixed picture
Speaker 4: is that movies are up, the projected earnings are up,
Speaker 4: They're doing better with movies, but there's a six percent
Speaker 4: downturn in amusement parks.
Speaker 3: And when Bob Iiger came.
Speaker 4: Back to Disney to replace Bob Chapek, they said that
Speaker 4: they wanted to focus on the amusement park aspect of
Speaker 4: the company.
Speaker 3: And it hasn't quite turned around yet.
Speaker 4: And if you look at the bigger picture going into
Speaker 4: the fall and winter seasons, amusement parks historically don't do well.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming no one was fired from the amusement park.
Speaker 2: You know, certainly they're not the right operators. Everybody involved
Speaker 2: in employment there was not laid off or am I wrong?
Speaker 3: You're not wrong.
Speaker 4: It doesn't say that anyone from the amusement park side
Speaker 4: was laid off. These were just more like corporate trimming
Speaker 4: cuts around the edges of the company.
Speaker 1: Why is that big news?
Speaker 2: Because you're talking about, what do they have eighty thousand
Speaker 2: employees or something crazy, and you've got what two thousand
Speaker 2: people laid off for the last year year and a half.
Speaker 2: Why is that even news?
Speaker 4: It's news because it's a progression where each six months
Speaker 4: or so they are laying off. I wouldn't say a
Speaker 4: significant number, but a consistent number of employees, and Disney
Speaker 4: has not had that type of negative publicity for a while.
Speaker 4: And this comes on the heels again of Bob Iger
Speaker 4: coming back and saying they wanted to contract the company.
Speaker 4: They had laid off people in television because Disney is
Speaker 4: moving away from its television properties. They're releasing fewer movies
Speaker 4: and for the first quarter they've seen some good first time,
Speaker 4: I should say this past quarter, they've seen some good
Speaker 4: numbers as far as streaming. So this is about contracting
Speaker 4: and making it much more solvent.
Speaker 2: And when you talk about getting away from TV, is
Speaker 2: that all the majors except maybe the TV networks themselves,
Speaker 2: although I see stuff, you know, the ABC.
Speaker 1: Of produced product and it's on streaming.
Speaker 4: They're trying to get away from the linear broadcast television portion.
Speaker 4: And for years now there have been rumors about their
Speaker 4: going to sell off ABC. But TV big picture, they're
Speaker 4: not going to completely leave because obviously they have the
Speaker 4: Disney streaming bundle with Hulu and a lot of those
Speaker 4: are linear TV properties, so they wouldn't necessarily leave TV altogether.
Speaker 4: But they are seemingly trying to unload the ABC portion
Speaker 4: and maybe the ESPN portion as well.
Speaker 3: All Right, Mo.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll catch it tonight at seven pm. His social address
Speaker 2: at mister Mo Kelly Mo, you have a good one,
Speaker 2: you too, see soon.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Every Thursday we talked to him about what's going on
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